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Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Hi Barbara!
ITA ... Baez once again using a hearing as a media opportunity to cast doubt and suspicion on innocent people who've been dragged into the case ... and as I see it, using a motions hearing to plead portions of his case !!
Once again he brings up money, which really, really irks me since HE'S the one increasing the cost of the trial with all of his stupid motions and hearings ... and also the one being mysteriously paid the big bucks
And shame on the new DP attorney and Baez for addressing the court before the proper paperwork has been filed. I thought this was a seasoned DP lawyer?
And what's up with Baden trying to dictate the court calendar ??? So she's only available 3 days at the end of June ??? WTH ? OF COURSE the defense won't be ready by October at this rate ... maybe even not ready by October 2010 ...
IMO they need a new judge who will keep this case moving along in a timely fashion ...
I agree, this judge seems to be a little laid back....I perfectly understood what Kronks lawyer was saying about the release of phone calls....and Judge Strickland kept saying the "dating back"...Kronks lawyers didn't care about the date, he was asking that the defense give specific numbers that they are looking for and not be allowed to use these records for a fishing expidition......
If the defense finds a number to a person that may have went to school with a person who may be married to someone that knows someone who may know someone that works at the prison.....they will ride on that....when it would have absolutey no bearing on this case......LKB is known to take anything at all, no matter how rediculous it is, and ride it to the hilt....They haven't found this something yet...and they will go to great lenghts to come up with something.....
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 01:57 PM
She reminds me of the late, great actress Colleen Dewhurst, in the face. Colleen was six feet tall also.
OK we are getting in trouble for picking them apart..shame on us...but she really needs a make over IMO..j/k GOSH can some not take jokes on here..:laugh:
TisMeAgain
05-28-2009, 01:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/index.html is posting raw video of today's hearing.
Part 1 is up http://www.wftv.com/video/19590215/index.html (There is no sound in the beginning so don't panic, your speakers are okay.)
Thank you, desmon! I missed it! Hi everyone, long time, no see! Cindy looks like she finally gets the fact she is NOT in control anymore. Now if she can start to tell the truth. Off to watch the hearing...thanks agian!:smile:
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 01:59 PM
I think it is Mrs. Baden IIRC If I could post my backside I would no shame here
LOL I hear ya..Casey really doesnt mind either
:wink:
http://humbleopinion.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/caseypic1.jpg
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Off Topic
2nd POI named in Navaeh case. He is also RSO
ofgs OK not biting my tongue any longer then..:cursing: thanks
Here is the case i was talking about:
The two men informed prosecutor McElroy. Not quite convinced, he asked them to find an expert on the disease. After Dr. Piero Rinaldo, assistant professor of genetics at Yale, studied the case for six weeks, his own tests established that Ryan did indeed die of MMA and—as charged in a lawsuit by the Stallingses—that the scientific findings used to convict Patti were grossly inaccurate. "Technically speaking, I've never seen such lousy work," he says. "It was a classic case of misdiagnosis." After conferring with Dr. Rinaldo last September, McElroy made a rare and remarkable legal move: He asked a county circuit judge to dismiss the murder charge. After serving 14 months in prison, Patti was finally free. "We can't undo the suffering the Stallingses have endured during this ordeal, and I apologize," McElroy said. "I hope their lives will be happier and fuller in the future."
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20111526,00.html
the most disgusting part is that they knew the other child had died from MMA!!! The expert who got involved called LE's labwork and the hospitals the worst he had ever seen.
This is why defendants need access to the experts as well.
IMO
TunaMelt
05-28-2009, 02:00 PM
for the first time i watched the entire proceeding on tv. some thoughts i would like you posters to answer me on.
first, that style blouse is supposed to fit tight. when she was walking it looked just as it should. when she was sitting it looked too tight, not not more than many of the young women are wearing.
her constant figetting with her hair is really annoying. maybe the new attorney can help her with that.
her coy little smiles at the attorneys. someone said only to males, not true, she did that as well with the new woman attorney.
imo, she looked like a little puppy dog so eagar for affection that any little pat they want to crawl in your lap.
last, has she been tested for mental retardation. i think she is at least on the low end of borderline. that may well be while she behaves as she does.
i do think that she is probably guilty and also think the way she was treated at her home has a lot to do with her behavior. i do not think that cindy would allow her child to be considered borderline retarded and she never had proper help.
I wish I could say I think you are a very kind and understanding person.
But it seems like you're familiar with the players in this case, that you know as much as anyone here about the case -- and because of that, I've got to say that IMO you are not a very good judge of character.
Casey is your normal, self absorbed, immature uneducated ex-mother of a deceased child who she is charged with murdering, and who has got herself in way deeper than she ever thought her lies would take her.
Her mother will not be considered a mitigating factor when the jury decides KC Anthony's fate.
Nice try, but it won't fly.
:glare:
denjet
05-28-2009, 02:01 PM
I don't understand how Jose can just say anything he wants about anyone and get away with it. Doesn't Jesse have rights not to be falsely accused of a crime Baez knows he didn't commit.
Hi Bala!
I'm with you ... I think it is outrageous that a lawyer can stand up in court and call anyone a suspect and not be, at the very least, cautioned about his accusations or held accountable for it ... it just doesn't make sense ... Why couldn't Jesse's lawyer ask for these false accusations to stop or somehow prevent Jose from accusing his client of criminal activity which is what he's seems to be doing ...
I think Jesse should hire Morgan and attack what the Anthonys and Baez have said about him and his father...
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:02 PM
LOL I hear ya..Casey really doesnt mind either
:wink:
http://humbleopinion.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/caseypic1.jpg
:ohmy:lol yep saw one that showed her whole backside but better not post it don't wanna go to band camp over her A$$:wink:
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:02 PM
OK we are getting in trouble for picking them apart..shame on us...but she really needs a make over IMO..j/k GOSH can some not take jokes on here..:laugh:
I for one feel NO SHAME for picking them apart they are RATS.
msgatorslayer
05-28-2009, 02:02 PM
Jose Baez, attorneys haggle over jail video, phone records
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-052809,0,6584517.story
After the hearing, Lyon spoke outside the courthouse and said she plans to file motions challenging the state's use of the death penalty against Anthony. She would not detail her strategy, instead saying she would address it in court.
I watched the video of the flooding where Caylee's remains were found.
IMO, the rain fall amounts for the past 2 weeks are pretty close to what was seen in August of last year. I just read the other day that Orlando has received close to 14 inches from this system. IIRC, for August of last year, it was around 15-16 inches. Most being from TS Fay.
ttcRider
05-28-2009, 02:02 PM
ofgs OK not biting my tongue any longer then..:cursing: thanks
:laugh: You held yours longer than I could!
norwood
05-28-2009, 02:03 PM
I was hoping you'd post and weigh in a little more then you did yesterday on that motion. LOL!
I tell you from that motion it sounds all orchestrated and Casey was pulled from her cell while she was fine. Today my impression was that it was Casey already in distress and then pulled from her cell.
I recall reading/hearing that the Chaplain was the first to let Casey know and I swore one of Jose's colleagues was with her prior to that. Just Jose wasn't there. Also that motion reads of other inmates talking to Casey about it. What the heck!
This is really muddied and I wonder what the true story is.
We may never know what really happened. If someone writes a book later when this is all over and it is someone that was actually present then maybe we can gleam an idea of what happened. You can't tell anything from that motion.
One thing I did notice after the hearing was over and the DP attorney that is possibly going to come on board said was that she is going to be filing motions. My hope is she does her own motions and does not let Jose or his staff anywhere near them.
The new attorney is going to try and get the DP dropped again and that is how it should be, get it off the table. My own opinion is that they have taken it off the table once so I don't think that will happen again. She will have a win if she gets her LWOP that is what DP attorney are really for, to get Life or LWOP and not the needle.
I am still just blown away with that motion and how horrible it was.
Neffy
05-28-2009, 02:03 PM
Jose Baez, attorneys haggle over jail video, phone records
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-052809,0,6584517.story
After the hearing, Lyon spoke outside the courthouse and said she plans to file motions challenging the state's use of the death penalty against Anthony. She would not detail her strategy, instead saying she would address it in court.
I can't wait to see that. I wonder how close or far it will be from Lenamons.
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 02:04 PM
I thought Casey's blouse was inappropriate for the situation...really unreal that she would have worn something so tight....but with this "Casey Anthony" it isn't a surprise..guess it will make a great scene when all of this comes out in the "Movie"!
Seems poor little "Caylee" is getting more and more pushed under the bench..huh?
TisMeAgain
05-28-2009, 02:04 PM
:ohmy:lol yep saw one that showed her whole backside but better not post it don't wanna go to band camp over her A$$:wink:
TEE HEE HEE, she is really gaining! Did Cindy try and raise her hand today?
desmom
05-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Raw Video of Motion Hearing
Part 1 - http://www.wftv.com/video/19590215/index.html
Part 2 - http://www.wftv.com/video/19590678/index.html
Part 3 - http://www.wftv.com/video/19590924/index.html
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Hi Bala!
I'm with you ... I think it is outrageous that a lawyer can stand up in court and call anyone a suspect and not be, at the very least, cautioned about his accusations or held accountable for it ... it just doesn't make sense ... Why couldn't Jesse's lawyer ask for these false accusations to stop or somehow prevent Jose from accusing his client of criminal activity which is what he's seems to be doing ...
I think Jesse should hire Morgan and attack what the Anthonys and Baez have said about him and his father...
Thank you they have all threw him under the bus and now JB is I say he needs to file against them and take their bear money..I think I will have to leave his daddy a message on his Myspace and let him know I think it is horrible what they have done to JG who loved that little girl
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:07 PM
I sure do.He easily packed on about 80 lbs...How much has the OC gained 25-30lbs?..Bet she won't be wearing that outfit much longer...Maybe LKB can bring her something (from her closet) to wear for trial..mo:tonguewag:
I know you're joking, but seriously, Baden is supposed to be a top notch defense lawyer. Why wouldn't she notice how bad Casey looks, especially when they are trying to influence the jury through TV appearances, etc., and tell Baez to at least get her some clothes that fit, either from Cindy or by sending someone to buy her something that fits. I'm sure they will pay much more attention come trial time, but why aren't they doing it now when all this is televised? I don't get it. Not that it isn't ok by me if everybody who sees her has a negative impression of her. She deserves it IMO, but part of the reason attorneys are paid is to avoid the impression she gave in court today. Why isn't someone looking ahead to the kind of appearance she'll make? If this is any indication of the defense Casey will have, it will not be good news for her.
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:07 PM
Mornin' all! :thumbup:
I missed the hearing, so I'm just reading here to see what everyone has to say about it.
Hearing that Mr. Grund was there brought tears to my eyes. Good for him!!
GOOD MORNING?? it is 1 here lol Hi Annie :tonguewag:
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 02:07 PM
Care to put up a picture of your backside as well. A lot of people here denegrating Casey's, Ms Lyon's, Ms Baden's and Jose's looks. I hope that some of you don't have mirrors in your house as I am quite sure you wouldn't want your pictures all over the net. What the He!! does anyone's weight have to do with this case? Will it change outcome? :mad:
What are you trying to say? Us bloggers have big back sides....
(Hey everyone Cindy is back!!!)
I will put up a photo anytime (through PM)...
What does her weight have to do with this case? Are you kidding me?
It shows her emotions... Did you know that we are hard-wired and conditioned to associate food with comfort and relief from anxiety, nervousness, depression, anger and loneliness?
Seeing her gaining a lot of weight is almost like watching her self destruct.
Sorry you see weight as something taboo or something that others shouldn't talk about .. But it really does show that she is not coping well with her emotions. Something is eating her up inside, so she is eating up to try and deal with it....
Will it change the outcome? No...
But neither will us talking about any of this.. Unless of course we are on the jury..
Sorry, her weight gain is relevant to the discussion whether you see it or not!
MOO
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Thank you they have all threw him under the bus and now JB is I say he needs to file against them and take their bear money..I think I will have to leave his daddy a message on his Myspace and let him know I think it is horrible what they have done to JG who loved that little girl
I really hope JG lawyer jumps on that.
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Hi Lapis!
The reason Jesse was checked out so thoroughly was because of the Anthonys' accusations ... he was never a suspect in any interviews or reports that I've read through, and never referred to as a person of interest ... I agree the state or Jesse's attorney could have objected, but doesn't the judge have some latitude here for keeping out innuendo's and accusations ?? :confused:
In short no. You all are looking at this from the perspective that she is already found to be guilty. The court has to look at this from the perspective that she is merely accused and is presumed innocent. The court (as well as the prosecution, you and I and the entire public) have no way of knowing what the defense may be able to demonstrate at the time of trial. The fact that you never read that he was not considered a suspect does not end the inquiry. I hate to remind you that LE is not always correct and the defense is entitled to explore other viable persons. I know that you are all convinced of her guilt (as am I) but we do not know what evidence will be introduced at trial and what the defense will introduce. We have engaged in speculation, but we truly do not yet know.
I was absolutely facinated by the comments on this board this morning. (Aside from the pages upon pages about the appearance of various people) We are in the discovery phase of this case. Discovery is a fishing expedition. The defense is entitled to explore these things. Sometimes we let our emotions cloud what is happening here. If you listened carefully the court never said at any time that the things the defense is seeking are things the are not entitled to. The court even went so far as to say he understands why they are seeking them. He needs JB to put those reasons in writing. He is trying to determine what a reasonable time frame is.
If the ultimate goal is a fair trial, this is how it happens.
Sorry for the rant (it is not directed at you, I merely used your question as a lauching point) and as usual JMO.
desmom
05-28-2009, 02:11 PM
I thought Casey's blouse was inappropriate for the situation...really unreal that she would have worn something so tight....but with this "Casey Anthony" it isn't a surprise..guess it will make a great scene when all of this comes out in the "Movie"!
Seems poor little "Caylee" is getting more and more pushed under the bench..huh?
IMO, if Casey would have sneezed, we would have heard the pop, pop, pop of little buttons flying across the courtroom.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/052809anthony_motion_hearing/1/lg/46.htm
Neffy
05-28-2009, 02:12 PM
Jose Baez, attorneys haggle over jail video, phone records
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-052809,0,6584517.story
After the hearing, Lyon spoke outside the courthouse and said she plans to file motions challenging the state's use of the death penalty against Anthony. She would not detail her strategy, instead saying she would address it in court.
Hey did you see that area underwater on that vid. From my understanding this isn't even half the rain that was there back when Caylee was hidden there. My guess is probably not even all the foilage is back either.
shelkobe
05-28-2009, 02:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/index.html is posting raw video of today's hearing.
Part 1 is up http://www.wftv.com/video/19590215/index.html (There is no sound in the beginning so don't panic, your speakers are okay.)
Thanks for this. Had to bring the car into the shop this morning so I've missed everything. Will watch part one of the video and then read the thread from the beginning later on tonight. During these hearings I LOVE to read the whole thread to see everyone's impressions as things are happening live. Hee, hee.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:14 PM
IMO, if Casey would have sneezed, we would have heard the pop, pop, pop of little buttons flying across the courtroom.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/052809anthony_motion_hearing/1/lg/46.htm
Then everyone would have to run for cover.
Tornado
05-28-2009, 02:14 PM
I know the feeling, sometimes I just go back out and come back the next day......:lol:
I am almost caught up and then it is going to be time to leave again. :laugh:
Hoping someone will respond.
Did anyone find out who Cindy was flipping off at the last hearing???
Oh and thanks Lapis. Her appearence has changed but do we need 50 posts about it?? Jeez!
Neffy
05-28-2009, 02:17 PM
In short no. You all are looking at this from the perspective that she is already found to be guilty. The court has to look at this from the perspective that she is merely accused and is presumed innocent. The court (as well as the prosecution, you and I and the entire public) have no way of knowing what the defense may be able to demonstrate at the time of trial. The fact that you never read that he was not considered a suspect does not end the inquiry. I hate to remind you that LE is not always correct and the defense is entitled to explore other viable persons. I know that you are all convinced of her guilt (as am I) but we do not know what evidence will be introduced at trial and what the defense will introduce. We have engaged in speculation, but we truly do not yet know.
I was absolutely facinated by the comments on this board this morning. (Aside from the pages upon pages about the appearance of various people) We are in the discovery phase of this case. Discovery is a fishing expedition. The defense is entitled to explore these things. Sometimes we let our emotions cloud what is happening here. If you listened carefully the court never said at any time that the things the defense is seeking are things the are not entitled to. The court even went so far as to say he understands why they are seeking them. He needs JB to put those reasons in writing. He is trying to determine what a reasonable time frame is.
If the ultimate goal is a fair trial, this is how it happens.
Sorry for the rant (it is not directed at you, I merely used your question as a lauching point) and as usual JMO.
I beg to differ. We are looking at this as Jessie was never deemed a suspect yet Jose is stating he is/was. It was false. This has nothing to do with Casey's guilt or innocence. You can't call people suspects that were not indeed suspects. Well obviously you can as we saw him do it but it is a false accusation.
What this tells me is the person the DEFENSE is clearly looking at is JESSIE. Jose let the cat out of the bag IMO regarding more of his defense strategy.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:19 PM
I beg to differ. We are looking at this as Jessie was never deemed a suspect yet Jose is stating he is/was. It was false. This has nothing to do with Casey's guilt or innocence. You can't call people suspects that were not indeed suspects. Well obviously you can as we saw him do it but it is a false accusation.
What this tells me is the person the DEFENSE is clearly looking at is JESSIE. Jose let the cat out of the bag IMO regarding more of his defense strategy.
I agree:beer:
I was hoping you'd post and weigh in a little more then you did yesterday on that motion. LOL!
I tell you from that motion it sounds all orchestrated and Casey was pulled from her cell while she was fine. Today my impression was that it was Casey already in distress and then pulled from her cell.
I recall reading/hearing that the Chaplain was the first to let Casey know and I swore one of Jose's colleagues was with her prior to that. Just Jose wasn't there. Also that motion reads of other inmates talking to Casey about it. What the heck!
This is really muddied and I wonder what the true story is. That motion is really misleading to what Casey knew and when and by whom. We need the entire scenerio not chopped up pieces.
she knew, she had her little radio on when the CO came to get her, he said she was already agitated.
norwood
05-28-2009, 02:20 PM
In short no. You all are looking at this from the perspective that she is already found to be guilty. The court has to look at this from the perspective that she is merely accused and is presumed innocent. The court (as well as the prosecution, you and I and the entire public) have no way of knowing what the defense may be able to demonstrate at the time of trial. The fact that you never read that he was not considered a suspect does not end the inquiry. I hate to remind you that LE is not always correct and the defense is entitled to explore other viable persons. I know that you are all convinced of her guilt (as am I) but we do not know what evidence will be introduced at trial and what the defense will introduce. We have engaged in speculation, but we truly do not yet know.
I was absolutely facinated by the comments on this board this morning. (Aside from the pages upon pages about the appearance of various people) We are in the discovery phase of this case. Discovery is a fishing expedition. The defense is entitled to explore these things. Sometimes we let our emotions cloud what is happening here. If you listened carefully the court never said at any time that the things the defense is seeking are things the are not entitled to. The court even went so far as to say he understands why they are seeking them. He needs JB to put those reasons in writing. He is trying to determine what a reasonable time frame is.
If the ultimate goal is a fair trial, this is how it happens.
Sorry for the rant (it is not directed at you, I merely used your question as a lauching point) and as usual JMO.
Hi Lapis
The defense could also bring all of us posters on this board as possible suspects or John Doe on the street out side the court house.
Just like police lie to people all the time when they are questioning them.
There is a lot of latitude.
What are your thought on the expectation of privacy of a prisoner in regards to this matter. While I understand that the medical aspect is a privacy issue she was in a common area.
penguinlady
05-28-2009, 02:20 PM
Just like his client.
Absolutely!
:lol:
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:21 PM
I know you're joking, but seriously, Baden is supposed to be a top notch defense lawyer. Why wouldn't she notice how bad Casey looks, especially when they are trying to influence the jury through TV appearances, etc., and tell Baez to at least get her some clothes that fit, either from Cindy or by sending someone to buy her something that fits. I'm sure they will pay much more attention come trial time, but why aren't they doing it now when all this is televised? I don't get it. Not that it isn't ok by me if everybody who sees her has a negative impression of her. She deserves it IMO, but part of the reason attorneys are paid is to avoid the impression she gave in court today. Why isn't someone looking ahead to the kind of appearance she'll make? If this is any indication of the defense Casey will have, it will not be good news for her.
Have you ever tried to buy clothes based upon what someone looks like? It is obvious that Casey has been gaining weight while in jail. I am sure that the clothing is being supplied by Cindy but she is trying to guess on the size based upon her last viewing of Casey. Its not like they can bring in a variety of sizes and have her try on clothes. The jail issued clothing does not give a very good indication of what size to buy. How many times have you tried on clothes and you may take a large from one manufacturer and a medium from another? I tried on dresses at Talbot's for Easter and fit in dresses from a size 6 to a size 12 depending on the cut! If it is so difficult to fit yourself try fitting someone else. JMO
Neffy
05-28-2009, 02:21 PM
she knew, she had her little radio on when the CO came to get her, he said she was already agitated.
What I can't pinpoint is when the Chaplain spoke to her. I recall someone from Jose's office being there also. Now we add the radio, other inmates talking to her and the med facility. When and how did she first find out?
That very well could be.. My question is how many of her clients killed their 2 year old ,bagged her like trash partied like there was no tomorrow and didnt report her daughter "so called kidnapped for 31 day"? Her tiny little bones found 15 houses from home and in a place no less where she used to bury her dead pets? Thats the question.. You know over confidence can be her down fall to.. Anyone ever played ball and was up by 5 runs last quarter and lost the game by one or two points?? and thought for sure you have this game in the bag?
Winning for her only means Casey doesn't fry. DOesn't mean she is found not guilty.
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 02:24 PM
I thought Casey's blouse was inappropriate for the situation...really unreal that she would have worn something so tight....but with this "Casey Anthony" it isn't a surprise..guess it will make a great scene when all of this comes out in the "Movie"!
Seems poor little "Caylee" is getting more and more pushed under the bench..huh?
Casey has no access to a wardrobe, and therefore no real say in the matter. Someone related to her and/or on her defense team should be looking out for her best interests with regard to her courtroom attire. They aren't. And it's not surprising, imo, but it is the height of cruelty on the part of her mother not to insure she is dressed appropriately for court, in clothes that fit and as much as possible camouflage her weight gain.
Imo, Caylee has been of no real consequence to the group on the defense side of the courtroom since her murder.
penguinlady
05-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Have you ever tried to buy clothes based upon what someone looks like? It is obvious that Casey has been gaining weight while in jail. I am sure that the clothing is being supplied by Cindy but she is trying to guess on the size based upon her last viewing of Casey. Its not like they can bring in a variety of sizes and have her try on clothes. The jail issued clothing does not give a very good indication of what size to buy. How many times have you tried on clothes and you may take a large from one manufacturer and a medium from another? I tried on dresses at Talbot's for Easter and fit in dresses from a size 6 to a size 12 depending on the cut! If it is so difficult to fit yourself try fitting someone else. JMO
I know what you are saying..I have many sizes in my closet. Maybe a shirt without buttons?? I have wide shoulders and have a problem with buttons (sadly the reason isn't that I am chesty!) staying closed.
IMO
K
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:25 PM
I know you're joking, but seriously, Baden is supposed to be a top notch defense lawyer. Why wouldn't she notice how bad Casey looks, especially when they are trying to influence the jury through TV appearances, etc., and tell Baez to at least get her some clothes that fit, either from Cindy or by sending someone to buy her something that fits. I'm sure they will pay much more attention come trial time, but why aren't they doing it now when all this is televised? I don't get it. Not that it isn't ok by me if everybody who sees her has a negative impression of her. She deserves it IMO, but part of the reason attorneys are paid is to avoid the impression she gave in court today. Why isn't someone looking ahead to the kind of appearance she'll make? If this is any indication of the defense Casey will have, it will not be good news for her.
I would say LKB is not hanging around to much in FL to pick out clothes for KC and JB is not a good judge on clothes did you see his green hankie hanging out with a burgundy tie..but see what your saying usually the family brings them clothes and perhaps CA does not want to spend her caylee bear money on a new outfit
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:27 PM
I am almost caught up and then it is going to be time to leave again. :laugh:
I know, I just took a phone call and when I got back (40) new posts...:laugh:....I leave late today...last practice of the chorus....
I agree:beer:
well they couldn't find the person Casey told them had Caylee, which was Zanny so I guess they had to look at others. I doubt it took much to clear Jesse and or Amy. After all if Jesse had taken Caylee why would Casey make up all this BS, along with a fake babysitter? what is the reason behind that, it makes no sense. Tell LE, my ex boyfriend took my child and won't tell me where she is. You don't create a whole fantasy unless you are hiding something.
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I know what you are saying..I have many sizes in my closet. Maybe a shirt without buttons?? I have wide shoulders and have a problem with buttons (sadly the reason isn't that I am chesty!) staying closed.
IMO
K
How about the sweatshirt in her mug shot she purchased with stolen money at target. She should be brought in in jailhouse garb. Karma can be a nasty thing.
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:30 PM
Have you ever tried to buy clothes based upon what someone looks like? It is obvious that Casey has been gaining weight while in jail. I am sure that the clothing is being supplied by Cindy but she is trying to guess on the size based upon her last viewing of Casey. Its not like they can bring in a variety of sizes and have her try on clothes. The jail issued clothing does not give a very good indication of what size to buy. How many times have you tried on clothes and you may take a large from one manufacturer and a medium from another? I tried on dresses at Talbot's for Easter and fit in dresses from a size 6 to a size 12 depending on the cut! If it is so difficult to fit yourself try fitting someone else. JMO
I agree...they need to send her clothes (one size fits all).....this way they can't go wrong......
:laugh:
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Casey has no access to a wardrobe, and therefore no real say in the matter. Someone related to her and/or on her defense team should be looking out for her best interests with regard to her courtroom attire. They aren't. And it's not surprising, imo, but it is the height of cruelty on the part of her mother not to insure she is dressed appropriately for court, in clothes that fit and as much as possible camouflage her weight gain.
Imo, Caylee has been of no real consequence to the group on the defense side of the courtroom since her murder.
IMO she should be in her blues until trial time..but I think her mother could get her a shirt or jacket that may even be larger than need be it would be better than her buttons about popping off IMO..actually I do not care what she wears she will always be a evil monster with no emotion..she can be 500 pounds for all I care her fault lazy lazy and eating her bon bons and cookies must be helping her out..it is her lack of emotion that bothers me more than her weight gain...
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:34 PM
The Grunds clearly saw that the a's werent properly caring for Caylee. They were good enough to care for her themselves. To be pointed to as a suspect would make me furious I would have a team of lawyers going after casey and the gang. No good deed goes unpinished. Here is proof of that.
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:34 PM
well they couldn't find the person Casey told them had Caylee, which was Zanny so I guess they had to look at others. I doubt it took much to clear Jesse and or Amy. After all if Jesse had taken Caylee why would Casey make up all this BS, along with a fake babysitter? what is the reason behind that, it makes no sense. Tell LE, my ex boyfriend took my child and won't tell me where she is. You don't create a whole fantasy unless you are hiding something.
Agreed...........LE will check out other people so that it wont be able to be said "A rush to judgement"....which also is a big phrase used by defense attornies...So LE will check out numerous people and eliminate them....most of the time thru polygraph test (investigative tool)...seeing as the Anthony's (all of them) refused to take a poly they should have been first on the suspect list....
But with all the lies that Casey told AFTER the fact....it's going to be pretty hard for any defense team to try and put the focus on anyone other than Casey.....JMO
AlohaRainbow
05-28-2009, 02:34 PM
Hey did you see that area underwater on that vid. From my understanding this isn't even half the rain that was there back when Caylee was hidden there. My guess is probably not even all the foilage is back either.
monthly rainfall in orlando 2008
http://www.cityoforlando.net/public_works/stormwater/rain/rainfall.htm
Neffy
05-28-2009, 02:34 PM
well they couldn't find the person Casey told them had Caylee, which was Zanny so I guess they had to look at others. I doubt it took much to clear Jesse and or Amy. After all if Jesse had taken Caylee why would Casey make up all this BS, along with a fake babysitter? what is the reason behind that, it makes no sense. Tell LE, my ex boyfriend took my child and won't tell me where she is. You don't create a whole fantasy unless you are hiding something.
Exactly. Jessie is who the defense is after. Asking for the other records is a smoke screen to "hide" this fact. No one has ever referred to Jessie as a suspect except Baez, Cindy & George. He's their target to dig up something.
desmom
05-28-2009, 02:36 PM
Casey has no access to a wardrobe, and therefore no real say in the matter. Someone related to her and/or on her defense team should be looking out for her best interests with regard to her courtroom attire. They aren't. And it's not surprising, imo, but it is the height of cruelty on the part of her mother not to insure she is dressed appropriately for court, in clothes that fit and as much as possible camouflage her weight gain.
Imo, Caylee has been of no real consequence to the group on the defense side of the courtroom since her murder.
I agree. She needs to stay away from the button up the front cotton with spandex shirts or at least be provided with a blazer type jacket to wear if the shirt is too tight.
Casey is going to court, not to the club. jmo
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Hi Lapis
the defense could also bring all of us posters on this board as possible suspects or John Doe on the street out side the court house.
Just like police lie to people all the time when they are questioning them.
There is a lot of latitude.
What are your thought on the espectation of privacy of a prisoner in regards to this matter. While I understand that the medical aspect is a privacy issue she was in a common area.
I would love to read the entire transcripts of the guards. I don't think we will be able to though. My limited research has shown that they do not release the transcripts in a criminal trial.
I am concerned with the allegations contained in the motion. Based upon that testimony it appears that this was a setup with the jail personnel acting as agents for LE. I believe the status of a prisoner whether merely accused or convicted does come into play.
Yesterday, I posed the question of whether if Casey was not in jail would LE have been able to put a camera in the home (absent a court order) and taped her reaction? The evidence would be the same, just as probative, just as relevant. I think the resounding answer is no.
She was in a common area because they put her there. The court may have to conduct a limited hearing into this. There seems to be some question as to whether this was in fact SOP and if the turning over the tape to LE was SOP. I fear that there may have been some overreaching here.
My overriding concern is that she receive a fair trial. Too many seem to want to throw out the rules because they have such a passionate reaction to Casey.
While I believe she did it and would like to see her convicted I want her to have a fair trial. I am ever mindful of the fact that this case will not change my life in any way. Her conviction will not make my cat well, it will not cure my cancer, it will not make me rich and will not make me a better person.
JMO
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I know what you are saying..I have many sizes in my closet. Maybe a shirt without buttons?? I have wide shoulders and have a problem with buttons (sadly the reason isn't that I am chesty!) staying closed.
IMO
K
The blouse and slacks Casey wore today are not new, we've seen them before. Several pounds ago. I could very easily buy an outfit for Casey Anthony that would fit and camouflage as necessary. And I'm on the other side of the country, unrelated to her (thank GOD), and also not interested in defending her. There's no excuse for how she looked today, none, imo. The last thing the viewing public should be focused on with this woman is her ample chest and backside. The very last thing.
Edited to add: By that I mean neither the OC's defense team nor her parents are doing her any good by not insuring she's dressed appropriately. Having a clear view of her ample curves is not in the best interest of the defendant.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:38 PM
I think that was the plan when they let casey out of jail. I think she was going to try to get to the remains and plant something that would tie Jesse into it.
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:38 PM
Have you ever tried to buy clothes based upon what someone looks like? It is obvious that Casey has been gaining weight while in jail. I am sure that the clothing is being supplied by Cindy but she is trying to guess on the size based upon her last viewing of Casey. Its not like they can bring in a variety of sizes and have her try on clothes. The jail issued clothing does not give a very good indication of what size to buy. How many times have you tried on clothes and you may take a large from one manufacturer and a medium from another? I tried on dresses at Talbot's for Easter and fit in dresses from a size 6 to a size 12 depending on the cut! If it is so difficult to fit yourself try fitting someone else. JMO
If I wanted to purchase clothes for a client that I had only seen, or never seen, I would go with a tape measure. As far as I know a paper one would certainly be permissible behind bars. People purchase clothes through mail order and over the internet every day with no problem, and that's how they do it, so why would this be a problem for a defense attorney?
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:39 PM
How about the sweatshirt in her mug shot she purchased with stolen money at target. She should be brought in in jailhouse garb. Karma can be a nasty thing.
I think most do but JB got the judge to ok it when she was not going to come to court..then they tried to sneak her a caylee bracelet IIRC
Maybe CA was band from bringing her clothes:laugh:
but I do not care what anyone says I have set in court many times with my BIL as the judge and everyone who came in for a hearing NOT a trial was brought in with the bright orange here and that includes killers of children
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 02:40 PM
You would think that a shirt "larger" rather then "Smaller" would have been a better deal. If Cindy was the one who picked these clothes.You would have thought there may have been a couple of shirts to try first... If anything, it only makes Casey Anthony appear even more..BAD!!!
As far as "Guilty" goes..there is not a doubt, by me..that Casey isn't guilty of murdering her little girl !! WAY to much evidence to the contrary..and I do say "EVIDENCE"!!
what is sooo sad..none of Caylee's family seems to love her...:(
Have they forgotten this beautiful baby so soon??
Don't "They" know that "If" or "When" Casey gets out again...the "HELL" for them only gets worse??
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:41 PM
If I wanted to purchase clothes for a client that I had only seen, or never seen, I would go with a tape measure. As far as I know a paper one would certainly be permissible behind bars. People purchase clothes through mail order and over the internet every day with no problem, and that's how they do it, so why would this be a problem for a defense attorney?
I'm not sure but it may violate the toucing rule. JMO
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:41 PM
The blouse and slacks Casey wore today are not new, we've seen them before. Several pounds ago. I could very easily buy an outfit for Casey Anthony that would fit and camouflage as necessary. And I'm on the other side of the country, unrelated to her (thank GOD), and also not interested in defending her. There's no excuse for how she looked today, none, imo. The last thing the viewing public should be focused on with this woman is her ample chest and backside. The very last thing.
Edited to add: By that I mean neither the OC's defense team nor her parents are doing her any good by not insuring she's dressed appropriately. Having a clear view of her ample curves is not in the best interest of the defendant.
I agree. You are correct that this does her no favors and there is NO excuse for it if these defense attorneys are being paid.
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:41 PM
IMO she should be in her blues until trial time..but I think her mother could get her a shirt or jacket that may even be larger than need be it would be better than her buttons about popping off IMO..actually I do not care what she wears she will always be a evil monster with no emotion..she can be 500 pounds for all I care her fault lazy lazy and eating her bon bons and cookies must be helping her out..it is her lack of emotion that bothers me more than her weight gain...
Others might disagree but I think the weight gain IS a lack of emotion....She is stuffing her face and enjoying it.....Cindy is losing weight, I would call that emotional.....but being in prison and gaining weight doesn't strike me as a person who is distaught in anyway....I think Casey feels confident with all these big attornies looking after her.....I do believe that she thinks she will get off of this crime.....
I don't have a shred of doubt that she will be found guilty......
ellegna
05-28-2009, 02:41 PM
Exactly. Jessie is who the defense is after. Asking for the other records is a smoke screen to "hide" this fact. No one has ever referred to Jessie as a suspect except Baez, Cindy & George. He's their target to dig up something.
I agree
Went back and looked up articles about the LDT. No mention in any Jesse or anyone else was suspect or POI
Here's one example
CASEY'S FORMER FRIENDS TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS
Detectives still can't shake the truth from Caylee's mom Casey, but her ex-fiancé, ex-lover and ex-best friend have talked and investigators want to make sure it's legitimate. Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests. Sources said they were conducted not because they were accused of anything, but to make sure detectives could confirm all the details of their stories. Huizenga is the same friend from whom Casey's accused of stealing checks from.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:42 PM
If I wanted to purchase clothes for a client that I had only seen, or never seen, I would go with a tape measure. As far as I know a paper one would certainly be permissible behind bars. People purchase clothes through mail order and over the internet every day with no problem, and that's how they do it, so why would this be a problem for a defense attorney?
It would not be Buttoneyes and ITA with you:thumbup:
penguinlady
05-28-2009, 02:42 PM
The blouse and slacks Casey wore today are not new, we've seen them before. Several pounds ago. I could very easily buy an outfit for Casey Anthony that would fit and camouflage as necessary. And I'm on the other side of the country, unrelated to her (thank GOD), and also not interested in defending her. There's no excuse for how she looked today, none, imo. The last thing the viewing public should be focused on with this woman is her ample chest and backside. The very last thing.
Edited to add: By that I mean neither the OC's defense team nor her parents are doing her any good by not insuring she's dressed appropriately. Having a clear view of her ample curves is not in the best interest of the defendant.
I thought I had seen that top before! I agree..someone needs to get her some clothes.
Maybe one of those people that send money for her to spend in the commissary can pony up some clothes!
IMO!
K
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:43 PM
I'm not sure but it may violate the toucing rule. JMO
toucing rule? Please advise.
Cindy is a bitter, angry human being, imo. What's happening on the inside of a person is bound to appear on the outside, at least occasionally. As preoccupied as this family is with appearances, imo it's very swift karma that they're all looking like several miles of bad road these days.
I think George and Cindy are totally cut off from contact with Casey. All the public appearances where they proclaim their support and love for Casey are an effort to get that information to her if she watches TV or hears the radio. Baez is controlling how and what access Casey has to her family and also he is a convenient excuse for Casey if SHE wants no contact. I think Lee not being in court speaks volumes also.
His having to work excuse is old, everyone can get a day off. He doesn't want to be there. If Cindy and George even thought Casey might speak to them , they would have gotten to court early enough to get a front row seat, or I'm sure someone sitting on the "defense side" would have let them squeeze in. There is a big divide there and before this is over it will be even bigger. IMO
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:45 PM
You would think that a shirt "larger" rather then "Smaller" would have been a better deal. If Cindy was the one who picked these clothes.You would have thought there may have been a couple of shirts to try first... If anything, it only makes Casey Anthony appear even more..BAD!!!
As far as "Guilty" goes..there is not a doubt, by me..that Casey isn't guilty of murdering her little girl !! WAY to much evidence to the contrary..and I do say "EVIDENCE"!!
what is sooo sad..none of Caylee's family seems to love her...:(
Have they forgotten this beautiful baby so soon??
Don't "They" know that "If" or "When" Casey gets out again...the "HELL" for them only gets worse??
I think the Anthony's are happy to know where Casey is at all times...they don't have to wonder where she is or what she is doing....however, they don't want the stigma connected to a child murderer....so they will fight to the end.....
But, I believe that even if Casey had a bond and they were able to get it up, they would probably leave her right there and tell her that it was for her own protection.....JMO
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 02:46 PM
If I wanted to purchase clothes for a client that I had only seen, or never seen, I would go with a tape measure. As far as I know a paper one would certainly be permissible behind bars. People purchase clothes through mail order and over the internet every day with no problem, and that's how they do it, so why would this be a problem for a defense attorney?
Exactly. I think the motives of all involved in this case are quite clear -- they are all out for themselves. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving defendant imo, however, with all that parental pride and unconditional love, coupled with the reps of the majority of the defense team, you'd think at least one of them could noodle the situation through and dress Her Odiousness appropriately for court. Good grief.
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:46 PM
I agree
Went back and looked up articles about the LDT. No mention in any Jesse or anyone else was suspect or POI
Here's one example
CASEY'S FORMER FRIENDS TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS
Detectives still can't shake the truth from Caylee's mom Casey, but her ex-fiancé, ex-lover and ex-best friend have talked and investigators want to make sure it's legitimate. Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests. Sources said they were conducted not because they were accused of anything, but to make sure detectives could confirm all the details of their stories. Huizenga is the same friend from whom Casey's accused of stealing checks from.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html
Just what I thought but they were innocent had no reason to lie I really think her dream team is not so much of a dream team no one was a POI but her from the first night IIRC..Why did the state not stand up and say he was never a POI he worked with us and cooperated
Dells
05-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Hi Barbara!
ITA ... Baez once again using a hearing as a media opportunity to cast doubt and suspicion on innocent people who've been dragged into the case ... and as I see it, using a motions hearing to plead portions of his case !!
Once again he brings up money, which really, really irks me since HE'S the one increasing the cost of the trial with all of his stupid motions and hearings ... and also the one being mysteriously paid the big bucks
And shame on the new DP attorney and Baez for addressing the court before the proper paperwork has been filed. I thought this was a seasoned DP lawyer?
And what's up with Baden trying to dictate the court calendar ??? So she's only available 3 days at the end of June ??? WTH ? OF COURSE the defense won't be ready by October at this rate ... maybe even not ready by October 2010 ...
IMO they need a new judge who will keep this case moving along in a timely fashion ...
Bolding mine....
I agree w/you, although I do like Judge Strikland. With all of these out of town lawyers on the defense team, they are going to have to be better about trying to schedule things. I know the judge won't want to make it look like he is rushing things, but if the defense delays like this throughout this whole case, it will get to be a little bit ridiculous.
I had trouble watching Casey is court today. She just irritates me to no end and gets on my very last nerve. She sits there like she doesn't have a care in the world. She is smirking, laughing, and nonchalantly sharing notes w/her attorneys.:cursing: My only consolation right now is that I just know that she is in total misery being locked up in jail.:biggrin: Get used to it, Casey, you hopefully have a lifetime of the same ahead of you. Although I think prison will be much worse for her because she hopefully won't have her private jail cell and she will probably have to actually work.
Gah, I can't wait till her verdict is read and she gets led away in shackles and handcuffs. At the rate this case is moving it may be years down the road, but I have to believe that it is going to happen. If Casey walks free it will be the biggest injustice ever.:thumbdown:
5boxersmom
05-28-2009, 02:48 PM
I thought I had seen that top before! I agree..someone needs to get her some clothes.
Maybe one of those people that send money for her to spend in the commissary can pony up some clothes!
IMO!
K
I would say she has only went up a size or two so I also don't understand why they can't buy her some new clothes.
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 02:49 PM
I think George and Cindy are totally cut off from contact with Casey. All the public appearances where they proclaim their support and love for Casey are an effort to get that information to her if she watches TV or hears the radio. Baez is controlling how and what access Casey has to her family and also he is a convenient excuse for Casey if SHE wants no contact. I think Lee not being in court speaks volumes also.
His having to work excuse is old, everyone can get a day off. He doesn't want to be there. If Cindy and George even thought Casey might speak to them , they would have gotten to court early enough to get a front row seat, or I'm sure someone sitting on the "defense side" would have let them squeeze in. There is a big divide there and before this is over it will be even bigger. IMO
Casey has accused Lee of the "grossest" things!..If he "DID" or "DID NOT" try to have sex with his own sister..then he should come clean with it!! She did mention this to two very different individuals !!
Explorer
05-28-2009, 02:49 PM
I think George and Cindy are totally cut off from contact with Casey. All the public appearances where they proclaim their support and love for Casey are an effort to get that information to her if she watches TV or hears the radio. Baez is controlling how and what access Casey has to her family and also he is a convenient excuse for Casey if SHE wants no contact. I think Lee not being in court speaks volumes also.
His having to work excuse is old, everyone can get a day off. He doesn't want to be there. If Cindy and George even thought Casey might speak to them , they would have gotten to court early enough to get a front row seat, or I'm sure someone sitting on the "defense side" would have let them squeeze in. There is a big divide there and before this is over it will be even bigger. IMO
Maybe it dawned on Lee that his CMA speech was a bust. Maybe hes too embarassed to say anything.
klock777
05-28-2009, 02:50 PM
Others might disagree but I think the weight gain IS a lack of emotion....She is stuffing her face and enjoying it.....Cindy is losing weight, I would call that emotional.....but being in prison and gaining weight doesn't strike me as a person who is distaught in anyway....I think Casey feels confident with all these big attornies looking after her.....I do believe that she thinks she will get off of this crime.....
I don't have a shred of doubt that she will be found guilty......
I had a friend that was a prison guard. SHe gained weight horribly. She said the prison food is ALL stachy food. They do this so to fill up the prisoners without having to provide a lot of food. So - small amount of starchy foods adds up to a large quantity of food.
Plus add no excercise and candy snacks.....
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:50 PM
I would say she has only went up a size or two so I also don't understand why they can't buy her some new clothes.
They probably think it will be a waste of money seeing as they know she will soon not be in need of street clothes anymore...
Cindy should send over some of her own old clothes.....from before she lost all that weight.....
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:50 PM
toucing rule? Please advise.
Inmates and attorneys are not allowed to touch one another. If you recall JB was admonished for violating this rule.
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:51 PM
I had a friend that was a prison guard. SHe gained weight horribly. She said the prison food is ALL stachy food. They do this so to fill up the prisoners without having to provide a lot of food. So - small amount of starchy foods adds up to a large quantity of food.
Plus add no excercise and candy snacks.....
You hit it on the head......:thumbup:
desmom
05-28-2009, 02:51 PM
I would love to read the entire transcripts of the guards. I don't think we will be able to though. My limited research has shown that they do not release the transcripts in a criminal trial.
I am concerned with the allegations contained in the motion. Based upon that testimony it appears that this was a setup with the jail personnel acting as agents for LE. I believe the status of a prisoner whether merely accused or convicted does come into play.
Yesterday, I posed the question of whether if Casey was not in jail would LE have been able to put a camera in the home (absent a court order) and taped her reaction? The evidence would be the same, just as probative, just as relevant. I think the resounding answer is no.
She was in a common area because they put her there. The court may have to conduct a limited hearing into this. There seems to be some question as to whether this was in fact SOP and if the turning over the tape to LE was SOP. I fear that there may have been some overreaching here.
My overriding concern is that she receive a fair trial. Too many seem to want to throw out the rules because they have such a passionate reaction to Casey.
While I believe she did it and would like to see her convicted I want her to have a fair trial. I am ever mindful of the fact that this case will not change my life in any way. Her conviction will not make my cat well, it will not cure my cancer, it will not make me rich and will not make me a better person.
JMO
On page 7 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0527/19583157.pdf it says Casey was listening to her radio. How will that play into all of this? TIA
ETA ~ Scratch that...keep reading desmom and you will answer your own question. Casey was told it was because mental health wanted to see her.
aproudmom
05-28-2009, 02:52 PM
I think the Anthony's are happy to know where Casey is at all times...they don't have to wonder where she is or what she is doing....however, they don't want the stigma connected to a child murderer....so they will fight to the end.....
But, I believe that even if Casey had a bond and they were able to get it up, they would probably leave her right there and tell her that it was for her own protection.....JMO
I keep saying I do not think they care as much as they try to put on of course they don't want to see her get the needle but they are to busy out on their boat and selling bears when they should be looking for the real killer if they believe her..
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:52 PM
Exactly. I think the motives of all involved in this case are quite clear -- they are all out for themselves. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving defendant imo, however, with all that parental pride and unconditional love, coupled with the reps of the majority of the defense team, you'd think at least one of them could noodle the situation through and dress Her Odiousness appropriately for court. Good grief.
Yes. It seems odd to me that even though all of the defense seems to have Casey's interest as secondary to their own, none of them seem to have figured out that she is making a bad appearance for no reason other than neglect, and it might be to their benefit as well as hers, to make available clothing that gives a different impression.
september
05-28-2009, 02:53 PM
I was thinking the opposite at this time. She's not there to upstage anyone. She was pulled in last minute, she's reading along / listening.
No aloofness to her. Looks like she's there to do a job.
Forgive me for answering such an old post. I am so behind, but I just couldn't let this comment go by without mentioning SHE'S SELLING A BOOK. Angel of Death Row my life, etc. That's the job she's doing. Casey really deserves all of these attorneys. Not one of them is putting her needs above professional advancement.
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 02:53 PM
Casey, to me, appears very self conscious of herself almost as if she is uncomfortable in her on skin. She seems as if she is very aware that a camera is on her. Maj. difference in what we have seen of her when she is able to talk, control and lie her way through a situation. She did do better with the hand rubbing, but, still had that awkward figgiting. I wonder what G&C think when she leaves the courtroom with no acknowledgment of either of them:rolleyes:
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 02:54 PM
I keep saying I do not think they care as much as they try to put on of course they don't want to see her get the needle but they are to busy out on their boat and selling bears when they should be looking for the real killer if they believe her..
I'd say they care about as much as they ever have or are capable of caring about anyone other than themselves. This family has some serious personality disorders and a complete lack of depth. They literally do not have the capacity to "care" as you or I understand it. imo
Lapis
05-28-2009, 02:55 PM
On page 7 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0527/19583157.pdf it says Casey was listening to her radio. How will that play into all of this? TIA
ETA ~ The motion keeps repeating Casey believed she was there for medical treatment. What medical treatment? Had Casey been complaining of illness or is because of something she heard on the radio? TIA
IIRC she was told that she needed to go to medical and was not given a reason why according to one of the guards. When in jail you go where they tell you to.
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 02:55 PM
Maybe it dawned on Lee that his CMA speech was a bust. Maybe hes too embarassed to say anything.
I agree!! Lee is conveniently staying away. He can't hide for too long though, he is a major witness. His CMA comment probably meant "cover my a**"!!!
Barbara fl.
05-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I keep saying I do not think they care as much as they try to put on of course they don't want to see her get the needle but they are to busy out on their boat and selling bears when they should be looking for the real killer if they believe her..
All three, Cindy, George and Lee know good and well that the state has the right person.....they are just trying to put up a front, for many reasons probably, taht they are for Casey......but they have to know in their hearts that she murdered Caylee......no one could be that blind....denial would have only lasted a short time until reality stepped in......There is no way they are still in denial mode.....only cover up mode now....
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 02:57 PM
Maybe it dawned on Lee that his CMA speech was a bust. Maybe hes too embarassed to say anything.
Yeah!!!..I sooo agree with you ..CMA ..I don't know what he was thinking..expecially after hearing/reading about TWO different boyfriends of Casey's stating that HE kept coercing his "precious" CMA ..Casey..to have sex with him..hummm her own "Blood brother"!!
denjet
05-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I agree, this judge seems to be a little laid back....I perfectly understood what Kronks lawyer was saying about the release of phone calls....and Judge Strickland kept saying the "dating back"...Kronks lawyers didn't care about the date, he was asking that the defense give specific numbers that they are looking for and not be allowed to use these records for a fishing expidition......
If the defense finds a number to a person that may have went to school with a person who may be married to someone that knows someone who may know someone that works at the prison.....they will ride on that....when it would have absolutey no bearing on this case......LKB is known to take anything at all, no matter how rediculous it is, and ride it to the hilt....They haven't found this something yet...and they will go to great lenghts to come up with something.....
Exactly Barbara! The judge seemed to be missing that ... it's not just about the dates but the broadness of the request ... let's hope he gets it at the next hearing ... how many more innocent people have to be brought into this ?? :cursing:
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 02:59 PM
Inmates and attorneys are not allowed to touch one another. If you recall JB was admonished for violating this rule.
The jail would not permit a defense attorney to either give a prisoner a paper tape measure, or to give a jail attendant a paper tape measure to either measure the client or watch while the client measures himself? I'm not suggesting the attorney measure the client although some have reported more interesting things have gone on between this attorney and his client while the client was behind bars.
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 02:59 PM
Casey, to me, appears very self conscious of herself almost as if she is uncomfortable in her on skin. She seems as if she is very aware that a camera is on her. Maj. difference in what we have seen of her when she is able to talk, control and lie her way through a situation. She did do better with the hand rubbing, but, still had that awkward figgiting. I wonder what G&C think when she leaves the courtroom with no acknowledgment of either of them:rolleyes:
She seems to have substituted the constant hair touching for the hand rubbing. Someone needs to put larger, more flattering clothes on her and get that mop pulled back in a bun so she has no reason to constantly touch it. She looks utterly inappropriate in the too-tight clothes and with the constant preening, smiling and joking. I cannot believe this enormous team of attorneys has not addressed these scratch-the-surface issues with regard to presenting their client in the best possible light. She looks more guilty every time she appears in public, imo.
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Hi Lapis!
The reason Jesse was checked out so thoroughly was because of the Anthonys' accusations ... he was never a suspect in any interviews or reports that I've read through, and never referred to as a person of interest ... I agree the state or Jesse's attorney could have objected, but doesn't the judge have some latitude here for keeping out innuendo's and accusations ?? :confused:
Bolding mine...
I so agree w/you. It seems like the defense is able to say and do whatever they want in order to serve and protect the best interests of their client, but it certainly doesn't seem fair that they are allowed to do so at the expense of everyone else's rights.:sneaky:
To be honest, I am a little bit sick and tired of hearing from the defense how Casey's rights are being violated left and right, when they are seeming to do the exact same thing to other people. Innocent people. And what about the rights of poor sweet Caylee who was murdered and thrown away like she was trash?!?!
This case is getting me a little bit down w/the way it is being played out lately. I am sick at heart that a beautiful little 2 year old child may never get the justice she so deserves because of the antics of some of the attorneys that are involved. With summer fast approaching and my kids getting out of school soon, I think I may need to take a break from this case.:unsure:
lizzard
05-28-2009, 03:01 PM
Forgive me for answering such an old post. I am so behind, but I just couldn't let this comment go by without mentioning SHE'S SELLING A BOOK. Angel of Death Row my life, etc. That's the job she's doing. Casey really deserves all of these attorneys. Not one of them is putting her needs above professional advancement.
september, when I googled her name (c'mon, admit it, you all did) the first page that came up on her website was the book. What's that tell us?
JMO
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:01 PM
Doesnt that just burn ya up:cursing:
Yes it does!!:cursing:
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Casey, to me, appears very self conscious of herself almost as if she is uncomfortable in her on skin. She seems as if she is very aware that a camera is on her. Maj. difference in what we have seen of her when she is able to talk, control and lie her way through a situation. She did do better with the hand rubbing, but, still had that awkward figgiting. I wonder what G&C think when she leaves the courtroom with no acknowledgment of either of them:rolleyes:
I think it is her clothes that are making her uncomfortable. There have been so many comments about her clothes not fitting her. I also think the fact that clothes can no longer make her look attrative and skinny like she used to be.
denjet
05-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Thank you they have all threw him under the bus and now JB is I say he needs to file against them and take their bear money..I think I will have to leave his daddy a message on his Myspace and let him know I think it is horrible what they have done to JG who loved that little girl
Hi proud! I wish the Grunds would file a suit against Cindy and George too, enough with throwing Jesse and Richard under the bus ... These people need to have it thrown right back in their faces!! IMO
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:03 PM
I dunno...but if you keep responding by quoting the quotes, it's just posted again. Kinda defeating your purpose.
Just saying.
I also think that Casey opened herself to this ridicule by murdering her daughter and then lying about it. Cindy certainly hasn't helped Casey's cause either by calling all the bloggers fat and lazy.:rolleyes:
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:03 PM
Bolding mine...
I so agree w/you. It seems like the defense is able to say and do whatever they want in order to serve and protect the best interests of their client, but it certainly doesn't seem fair that they are allowed to do so at the expense of everyone else's rights.:sneaky:
To be honest, I am a little bit sick and tired of hearing from the defense how Casey's rights are being violated left and right, when they are seeming to do the exact same thing to other people. Innocent people. And what about the rights of poor sweet Caylee who was murdered and thrown away like she was trash?!?!
This case is getting me a little bit down w/the way it is being played out lately. I am sick at heart that a beautiful little 2 year old child may never get the justice she so deserves because of the antics of some of the attorneys that are involved. With summer fast approaching and my kids getting out of school soon, I think I may need to take a break from this case.:unsure:
ITA, Dells. ITA.
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 03:04 PM
september, when I googled her name (c'mon, admit it, you all did) the first page that came up on her website was the book. What's that tell us?
JMO
Just one more person to make money off of Caylee.....:angry:
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:04 PM
Raw Interview: Casey's Defense Team
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
ETA ~ Jose talks about the rumors of discord amongst the defense team. Anyone hear this before? :scared:
He also says Casey is innocent of this crime, there is no reason she should be attacked, the defense team be attacked and a free pass being given across the street.
I would love to read the entire transcripts of the guards. I don't think we will be able to though. My limited research has shown that they do not release the transcripts in a criminal trial.
I am concerned with the allegations contained in the motion. Based upon that testimony it appears that this was a setup with the jail personnel acting as agents for LE. I believe the status of a prisoner whether merely accused or convicted does come into play.
Yesterday, I posed the question of whether if Casey was not in jail would LE have been able to put a camera in the home (absent a court order) and taped her reaction? The evidence would be the same, just as probative, just as relevant. I think the resounding answer is no.
She was in a common area because they put her there. The court may have to conduct a limited hearing into this. There seems to be some question as to whether this was in fact SOP and if the turning over the tape to LE was SOP. I fear that there may have been some overreaching here.
My overriding concern is that she receive a fair trial. Too many seem to want to throw out the rules because they have such a passionate reaction to Casey.
While I believe she did it and would like to see her convicted I want her to have a fair trial. I am ever mindful of the fact that this case will not change my life in any way. Her conviction will not make my cat well, it will not cure my cancer, it will not make me rich and will not make me a better person.
JMO
I'm not an attorney so my opinion on this means very little, but here goes.. I don't think LE cares if the tape is made public or not, as some people have said it may make Casey more sympathetic, it may not. What I think that LE is enjoying is watching Baez bring attention to this
"reaction". The more he tries to keep it from the public, the more it looks like he is trying to hide something and the more time he spends on this subject is that much less he has for something else. He states that information leaked regarding the incident was leaked inaccurately, and then proceeds to give the correct information. If she were my client I would think it is better to see the entire tape and have people make up their minds good or bad than to have them making a decision based on information "leaks". I wonder if it is more Casey who is pushing this, he has said he thought she might "sue" but then he backed off on that part.
apothecary
05-28-2009, 03:05 PM
Care to put up a picture of your backside as well. A lot of people here denegrating Casey's, Ms Lyon's, Ms Baden's and Jose's looks. I hope that some of you don't have mirrors in your house as I am quite sure you wouldn't want your pictures all over the net. What the He!! does anyone's weight have to do with this case? Will it change outcome? :mad:
I hate to say this ,but attractive and trim people always seem to get more sympathy and understanding from people.(possibly juries and judges)
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 03:06 PM
We despise these people, okay? Any and all comments about hair, weight and otherwise are welcome here.
LOL AnnieP!! The A's sure did it to ZG! in an Anthony backwards kinda way-;)
(Are we not allowed to post screenshots?)
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:06 PM
september, when I googled her name (c'mon, admit it, you all did) the first page that came up on her website was the book. What's that tell us?
JMO
Oh, you cynical little lizzard, you. :sneaky:
I thought the exact same thing as soon as I clicked the link another poster provided to her soon-to-be-released book.
Another player on the team putting her own interests firsts?? :ohmy: Tell me I'm dreaming. :rolleyes:
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 03:08 PM
Just what I thought but they were innocent had no reason to lie I really think her dream team is not so much of a dream team no one was a POI but her from the first night IIRC..Why did the state not stand up and say he was never a POI he worked with us and cooperated
I wonder if Jessie could sue Baez and/or the Anthonys for claiming he is involved in the murder of Caylee? I would think he would have a very good law suit there.
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:08 PM
Ewwww... check out number 13! :scared: She gives me the creeps.
Shark eyes. As in, dead.
neid_77
05-28-2009, 03:08 PM
You would think that a shirt "larger" rather then "Smaller" would have been a better deal. If Cindy was the one who picked these clothes.You would have thought there may have been a couple of shirts to try first... If anything, it only makes Casey Anthony appear even more..BAD!!!
As far as "Guilty" goes..there is not a doubt, by me..that Casey isn't guilty of murdering her little girl !! WAY to much evidence to the contrary..and I do say "EVIDENCE"!!
what is sooo sad..none of Caylee's family seems to love her...:(
Have they forgotten this beautiful baby so soon??
Don't "They" know that "If" or "When" Casey gets out again...the "HELL" for them only gets worse??
I wonder if George and CIndy have really thought that through I for the life of me cannot believe they do not at least take turns sitting on both sides of the court....to lay your grand duaghter down as a sacrifice to get the muderer off...:cursing: unreakingbelievable..I said this one time and i'll say it again to me as much disrespect and dishonor towards Caylee is unfathonable that little baby face is black and blue from all their words and actions!!!!
I FEEL SO VERY BAD FOR LITTLE CAYEE
Caylee Marie:wub:
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 03:09 PM
She seems to have substituted the constant hair touching for the hand rubbing. Someone needs to put larger, more flattering clothes on her and get that mop pulled back in a bun so she has no reason to constantly touch it. She looks utterly inappropriate in the too-tight clothes and with the constant preening, smiling and joking. I cannot believe this enormous team of attorneys has not addressed these scratch-the-surface issues with regard to presenting their client in the best possible light. She looks more guilty every time she appears in public, imo.
Back in the early '70's I knew many newly minted defense attorneys lucky to have a guilty-as-heck paying client who had mastered the appearance thing before local magistrates. Clean-em-up, dress-em-up, even disguise them so that witnesses wouldn't recognize them. That was the easiest, cheapest legal advice that could be dispensed and required about as much legal knowledge as JB seems able to muster.
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Bolding mine...
I so agree w/you. It seems like the defense is able to say and do whatever they want in order to serve and protect the best interests of their client, but it certainly doesn't seem fair that they are allowed to do so at the expense of everyone else's rights.:sneaky:
To be honest, I am a little bit sick and tired of hearing from the defense how Casey's rights are being violated left and right, when they are seeming to do the exact same thing to other people. Innocent people. And what about the rights of poor sweet Caylee who was murdered and thrown away like she was trash?!?!
This case is getting me a little bit down w/the way it is being played out lately. I am sick at heart that a beautiful little 2 year old child may never get the justice she so deserves because of the antics of some of the attorneys that are involved. With summer fast approaching and my kids getting out of school soon, I think I may need to take a break from this case.:unsure:
My bolding.
I can understand how you feel. I truly believe Caylee will get justice. I think she is already getting justice. What you give out is what you get back.
It does break my heart that is seems Caylee is lost in all of this. But just think about how we fat bloggers were able to make something happen. The Anthony's were dis-invited to the victims conference in Connecticut. Larry King's show sure took on a different tone from all the emails he received.
That is why I so strongly believe "One person can make a difference, and everyone should try." - JFK
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:09 PM
guess she ran up her JcPenney credit card and maybe CA is to good for target All I have to say is I really thought her buttons were going to pop off at any minute:w00t:
In all seriousness, the defense team and Casey's family (if they are the ones that provided her w/that outfit) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing her to wear that to court. It was not flattering at all and it is their chance to try to rehabilitate her public image. None of them could take the time to pick out clothes that fit her and that would look more flattering? :shrug: She really isn't a heavy girl at all, although she has gained weight, and I think she looks so much better than she did in the beginning when she was way too thin. A nice outfit that actually fit her properly would have made her look so much better. Her hair is also so much better pulled up into a ponytail. At least she doesn't play w/it that much when it is up. I think it would have been better for her to appear in court in her prison issued uniform then the "fashion don't" that she wore today.:unsure:
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:11 PM
Before we are done everyone down to the target checker will be thrown under the bus. We haven't even seen the JC Penney cashier yet. That one better lawyer up too!
I think anyone in the greater Orlando area better start looking for an attorney.:sneaky:
Explorer
05-28-2009, 03:11 PM
I think she received my email. :rolleyes:
Maybee they had a little chat with the DP lawyer and she told them to shut up they were not helping only hurting caseys case:biggrin:
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm not an attorney so my opinion on this means very little, but here goes.. I don't think LE cares if the tape is made public or not, as some people have said it may make Casey more sympathetic, it may not. What I think that LE is enjoying is watching Baez bring attention to this
"reaction". The more he tries to keep it from the public, the more it looks like he is trying to hide something and the more time he spends on this subject is that much less he has for something else. He states that information leaked regarding the incident was leaked inaccurately, and then proceeds to give the correct information. If she were my client I would think it is better to see the entire tape and have people make up their minds good or bad than to have them making a decision based on information "leaks". I wonder if it is more Casey who is pushing this, he has said he thought she might "sue" but then he backed off on that part.
Excellent point!! SA even said they don't have a problem keeping it sealed so why is Baez STILL pushing the issue.
Ewwww... check out number 13! :scared: She gives me the creeps.
Number 5, "Hey Latisha, do you have any gum?"
Dells
05-28-2009, 03:14 PM
I think she gets an hour everyday to do as she wants, shower, watch tv etc. she could have used yesterday's hour to shower for court. I'm thinking it is a test to see public reaction, and decide which look is more sympathetic for trial. I would hope if her parents didn't supply her with clothing, Baez would make sure she has clean, neat clothes. He always looks spiffy.
Bolding mine....
Well if today's outfit was a test to see how the public reacted to it/her, then I think it is fair to say that they failed miserably.:thumbdown:
Or perhaps the test was to actually get the public feeling sorry for Casey for having a defense team and family that picked out such an unflattering outfit for her.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 03:15 PM
I wonder if George and CIndy have really thought that through I for the life of me cannot believe they do not at least take turns sitting on both sides of the court....to lay your grand duaghter down as a sacrifice to get the muderer off...:cursing: unreakingbelievable..I said this one time and i'll say it again to me as much disrespect and dishonor towards Caylee is unfathonable that little baby face is black and blue from all their words and actions!!!!
I FEEL SO VERY BAD FOR LITTLE CAYEE
Caylee Marie:wub:
Good point
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Check out #11..uuhhh I think Baez is now aware that Casey's blouse is a little too - too tight !!..then again... this could be another reason she wore it..
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
KittyMom
05-28-2009, 03:16 PM
In all seriousness, the defense team and Casey's family (if they are the ones that provided her w/that outfit) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing her to wear that to court. It was not flattering at all and it is their chance to try to rehabilitate her public image. None of them could take the time to pick out clothes that fit her and that would look more flattering? :shrug: She really isn't a heavy girl at all, although she has gained weight, and I think she looks so much better than she did in the beginning when she was way too thin. A nice outfit that actually fit her properly would have made her look so much better. Her hair is also so much better pulled up into a ponytail. At least she doesn't play w/it that much when it is up. I think it would have been better for her to appear in court in her prison issued uniform then the "fashion don't" that she wore today.:unsure:
I can understand the color and style of clothing as trying to look professional and demure. But the fact that the shirt was 2 sizes too small sort of popped that balloon. I can see Cindy grabbing those items out of the closet out of pure spite. She knew Casey was due in court. She knew Casey would be looked at by the world via the court camera. Why did she not have enough care for her daughter to provide her with clothing that would prevent the comments we've all seen? She talks about believing Casey, but her actions show otherwise.
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Back in the early '70's I knew many newly minted defense attorneys lucky to have a guilty-as-heck paying client who had mastered the appearance thing before local magistrates. Clean-em-up, dress-em-up, even disguise them so that witnesses wouldn't recognize them. That was the easiest, cheapest legal advice that could be dispensed and required about as much legal knowledge as JB seems able to muster.
And therein lies the beauty of this. Somehow, some way, this defendant (and her equally odious parents, because they have been and continue to be ever-present in this nightmare) has drawn into her orbit a team of defense attorneys just precisely as self-absorbed as she is. They apparently can't see past right this minute, either, which is a hoot when you consider how this could all play out and how ridiculous they could all look on sentencing day. And the lead attorney is incompetent, to boot. I keep blinking my eyes hard, expecting my vision to clear and none of this to be real. But it is. It is. Karma seems not to have waited for this one -- it's sitting right on Ms. Anthony's shoulder, along for the entire ride.
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:17 PM
In all seriousness, the defense team and Casey's family (if they are the ones that provided her w/that outfit) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing her to wear that to court. It was not flattering at all and it is their chance to try to rehabilitate her public image. None of them could take the time to pick out clothes that fit her and that would look more flattering? :shrug: She really isn't a heavy girl at all, although she has gained weight, and I think she looks so much better than she did in the beginning when she was way too thin. A nice outfit that actually fit her properly would have made her look so much better. Her hair is also so much better pulled up into a ponytail. At least she doesn't play w/it that much when it is up. I think it would have been better for her to appear in court in her prison issued uniform then the "fashion don't" that she wore today.:unsure:
Maybe it is the defense that wants her to appear frumpy. Then all the wild partying will be harder to believe when looking at a frumpy person in frumpy clothes. But the pictures will tell the story.
neid_77
05-28-2009, 03:17 PM
barfBolding mine....
I agree w/you, although I do like Judge Strikland. With all of these out of town lawyers on the defense team, they are going to have to be better about trying to schedule things. I know the judge won't want to make it look like he is rushing things, but if the defense delays like this throughout this whole case, it will get to be a little bit ridiculous.
I had trouble watching Casey is court today. She just irritates me to no end and gets on my very last nerve. She sits there like she doesn't have a care in the world. She is smirking, laughing, and nonchalantly sharing notes w/her attorneys. My only consolation right now is that I just know that she is in total misery being locked up in jail.:biggrin: Get used to it, Casey, you hopefully have a lifetime of the same ahead of you. Although I think prison will be much worse for her because she hopefully won't have her private jail cell and she will probably have to actually work.
Gah, I can't wait till her verdict is read and she gets led away in shackles and handcuffs. At the rate this case is moving it may be years down the road, but I have to believe that it is going to happen. If Casey walks free it will be the biggest injustice ever.:thumbdown:
i was only gonna post my last one but then i saw this and had to tell you I agree with you 100% Casey Anthony makes me so sick I in my whole life besides perhaps scott peterson never seen selfcenteredness as shown by this woman to me she is the epitimy of evil why the heck do you need almost 5 attorney's in court 2 argue 1 motion!! unreal...and almost 10 to defend one person..while on the other side a 2yr old baby SCREAMS FOR JUSTICE!!!!!!!!
love to Caylee Marie
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:19 PM
Maybee they had a little chat with the DP lawyer and she told them to shut up they were not helping only hurting caseys case:biggrin:
Oooh ... good thought. Perhaps Ms. Lyon had breakfast with the Anthonys ... :w00t:
kitty1182
05-28-2009, 03:19 PM
Raw Interview: Casey's Defense Team
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
ETA ~ Jose talks about the rumors of discord amongst the defense team. Anyone hear this before? :scared:
He also says Casey is innocent of this crime, there is no reason she should be attacked, the defense team be attacked and a free pass being given across the street.
Thanks for the link..:smile:
I think the Anthony's are happy to know where Casey is at all times...they don't have to wonder where she is or what she is doing....however, they don't want the stigma connected to a child murderer....so they will fight to the end.....
But, I believe that even if Casey had a bond and they were able to get it up, they would probably leave her right there and tell her that it was for her own protection.....JMO
I agree totally, I think so much of their "support" is lip service. They have no desire to have her home on bail. Cindy has said as much, she's knows where Casey is and that she is "safe". Publicly they spout off with the innocent routine because they don't want as you said the "stigma" attached to them. But privately my guess is they have grasped the truth and have come to grips with it. I think the hard part is still not knowing exactly what happened, the details as such, to Caylee.
need2no
05-28-2009, 03:21 PM
Maybe it is the defense that wants her to appear frumpy. Then all the wild partying will be harder to believe when looking at a frumpy person in frumpy clothes. But the pictures will tell the story.
:ohmy: pic #15 tells quite a story......
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
Lyon said under FL she is lead counsel, but considers herself a member of the team.
She said she does not feel this is a DP case, but won't comment on it because she is still learning the case. :confused:
Kathi asks Jose what questions should they be asking the prosecutor and why he is not looking for the real killer. LKB wants to know why they have put Casey in the same capacity as Ted Bundy. LKB said we should read the transcripts of the county witnesses Lt. Unser & Sgt. Richardson about the cell/medical facility events. The prosecution is responsible for what LE does. LE made an effort to take her out of the jail with the help of the corrections officers trying to prevent Mr. Baez from seeing Ms. Anthony.
Kathi - what does the prosecutors have to do with that?
Some attorney I do not know his name jumps in and says he has a question to throw in...why did they try to re-instate the DP in this case, we wrote a letter asking them to give us facts, witnesses, documents and information that supports and justifies this being a DP case and to this day we have not gotten a response. I would suggest you walk over to that building and ask them why all of a sudden this is a DP case after there was a waiver and I suggest to you the reasons are other than the evidence in this case because there is no evidence in this case.
*man walks away from reporters*
Kathi chasing man down sidewalk: Why are you worried about the DP if you say Casey is innocent?
Attorney I do not know his name: I am not worried about it at all.
Attorney I do not know his name seems angry.
jmo
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:22 PM
I can understand the color and style of clothing as trying to look professional and demure. But the fact that the shirt was 2 sizes too small sort of popped that balloon. I can see Cindy grabbing those items out of the closet out of pure spite. She knew Casey was due in court. She knew Casey would be looked at by the world via the court camera. Why did she not have enough care for her daughter to provide her with clothing that would prevent the comments we've all seen? She talks about believing Casey, but her actions show otherwise.
ITA. I think the blouse has been hanging, wrinkled from its last wearing, either at the House of Anthony or Baez's office or a locker at the jail or wherever an inmate's "court clothes" are stored. No one could spare a minute to see if it fit or even run an iron over it.
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 03:23 PM
Excellent point!! SA even said they don't have a problem keeping it sealed so why is Baez STILL pushing the issue.
Even if they keep the tape out, they still have the depositions of the officers who were present and I'm betting those will come into testimony with or without the tape to back them up.
Privacy should not be an issue. PRisoners in jail have no rights of privacy as do people outside the jail.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 03:24 PM
It dosent seem as if shell be fitting into the casino waitress outfit ANY TIME SOON:biggrin:
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:24 PM
Maybe it is the defense that wants her to appear frumpy. Then all the wild partying will be harder to believe when looking at a frumpy person in frumpy clothes. But the pictures will tell the story.
The problem is, though, that imo she doesn't look frumpy. She looks borderline obscene, popping out of the clothes and fondling the hair.
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 03:27 PM
And therein lies the beauty of this. Somehow, some way, this defendant (and her equally odious parents, because they have been and continue to be ever-present in this nightmare) has drawn into her orbit a team of defense attorneys just precisely as self-absorbed as she is. They apparently can't see past right this minute, either, which is a hoot when you consider how this could all play out and how ridiculous they could all look on sentencing day. And the lead attorney is incompetent, to boot. I keep blinking my eyes hard, expecting my vision to clear and none of this to be real. But it is. It is. Karma seems not to have waited for this one -- it's sitting right on Ms. Anthony's shoulder, along for the entire ride.
Almost too good to be true, huh? Besides JB planning to "bamboozle a jury with his legal brilliance" as he has previously done in former cases he's lost, she may be subject to a "dream team" of attorneys so interested in their own agendas, they have no time for the small things that even the beginners are careful to do. What a signal that will send to a jury if no one comes to their senses. HA!
denjet
05-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Bolding mine....
I agree w/you, although I do like Judge Strikland. With all of these out of town lawyers on the defense team, they are going to have to be better about trying to schedule things. I know the judge won't want to make it look like he is rushing things, but if the defense delays like this throughout this whole case, it will get to be a little bit ridiculous.
I had trouble watching Casey is court today. She just irritates me to no end and gets on my very last nerve. She sits there like she doesn't have a care in the world. She is smirking, laughing, and nonchalantly sharing notes w/her attorneys.:cursing: My only consolation right now is that I just know that she is in total misery being locked up in jail. Get used to it, Casey, you hopefully have a lifetime of the same ahead of you. Although I think prison will be much worse for her because she hopefully won't have her private jail cell and she will probably have to actually work.
Gah, I can't wait till her verdict is read and she gets led away in shackles and handcuffs. At the rate this case is moving it may be years down the road, but I have to believe that it is going to happen. If Casey walks free it will be the biggest injustice ever.:thumbdown:
Hi Dells!
I share your frustration! It could very well be years down the road ... the defense team seems to be OK with that because they know the eventual outcome!
Poor Caylee seems to be forgotten in all of this courtroom drama !! I hate to think she'll be forgotten even more as time goes on ! :sad:
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 03:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
Lyon said under FL she is lead counsel, but considers herself a member of the team.
She said she does not feel this is a DP case, but won't comment on it because she is still learning the case. :confused:
Kathi asks Jose what questions should they be asking the prosecutor and why he is not looking for the real killer. LKB wants to know why they have put Casey in the same capacity as Ted Bundy. LKB said we should read the transcripts of the county witnesses Lt. Unser & Sgt. Richardson about the cell/medical facility events. The prosecution is responsible for what LE does. LE made an effort to take her out of the jail with the help of the corrections officers trying to prevent Mr. Baez from seeing Ms. Anthony.
Kathi - what does the prosecutors have to do with that?
Some attorney I do not know his name jumps in and says he has a question to throw in...why did they try to re-instate the DP in this case, we wrote a letter asking them to give us facts, witnesses, documents and information that supports and justifies this being a DP case and to this day we have not gotten a response. I would suggest you walk over to that building and ask them why all of a sudden this is a DP case after there was a waiver and I suggest to you the reasons are other than the evidence in this case because there is no evidence in this case.
*man walks away from reporters*
Kathi chasing man down sidewalk: Why are you worried about the DP if you say Casey is innocent?
Attorney I do not know his name: I am not worried about it at all.
Attorney I do not know his name seems angry.
jmo This was ALWAYS a potential death-penalty case. Why the prosecution decided to pursue it is not something that has to be shared wsith the defense when the case already qualified for the death penalty. It was a choice made by the prosecution. They are not responsible to justify this to the defense atty when the criteria for death penalty had always been there.
cathiesblogs
05-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Even if they keep the tape out, they still have the depositions of the officers who were present and I'm betting those will come into testimony with or without the tape to back them up.
Privacy should not be an issue. PRisoners in jail have no rights of privacy as do people outside the jail.
undoubtedly..this tape shows how Casey only had emotion when she was "caught"..funny how when the bones were found the first time..she showed no emotion..instead she said.."can I go back to the cell" looking bored..the second time..she gets what..is it "Mad"?..I think they should show this tape just to quell our suspicions now..if possible..both tapes should be shown..
from my understanding..she was really showing "anger" the second time....if indeed like Baez trys to say "grief"..shouldn't that have helped instead of hindered her case????????
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Almost too good to be true, huh? Besides JB planning to "bamboozle a jury with his legal brilliance" as he has previously done in former cases he's lost, she may be subject to a "dream team" of attorneys so interested in their own agendas, they have no time for the small things that even the beginners are careful to do. What a signal that will send to a jury if no one comes to their senses. HA!
No kidding! I sure hope Andrea Lyon doesn't start raining on our parade. :angry:
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the link..:smile:
Kathi Belich is good.
denjet
05-28-2009, 03:32 PM
barf
i was only gonna post my last one but then i saw this and had to tell you I agree with you 100% Casey Anthony makes me so sick I in my whole life besides perhaps scott peterson never seen selfcenteredness as shown by this woman to me she is the epitimy of evil why the heck do you need almost 5 attorney's in court 2 argue 1 motion!! unreal...and almost 10 to defend one person..while on the other side a 2yr old baby SCREAMS FOR JUSTICE!!!!!!!!
love to Caylee Marie
Hi neid!
You're not alone! CAYLEE'S the one who should be at the front of this mess ... it's sickening to see this circus all to get her murderer off! If KC is so innocent, why all the delays ... Baez has had almost a year and what has he really accomplished ? Exactly, I rest my case ... as long as he's in the driver's seat, I doubt much will be accomplished !! JMO
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:35 PM
Even if they keep the tape out, they still have the depositions of the officers who were present and I'm betting those will come into testimony with or without the tape to back them up.
Privacy should not be an issue. PRisoners in jail have no rights of privacy as do people outside the jail.
Is the tape or the depos of the corrections officers necessary to convict Casey? Unless the corrections officers have some type of in-depth medical training, wouldn't their statements about Casey's reaction be personal opinions?
If Casey's reaction to the news on December 11 is a major piece of evidence in this case, then I would be worried.
jmo
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:35 PM
Even if they keep the tape out, they still have the depositions of the officers who were present and I'm betting those will come into testimony with or without the tape to back them up.
Privacy should not be an issue. PRisoners in jail have no rights of privacy as do people outside the jail.
It seems to me that the deposittions from the guards would trump the video. So why is it that they want it suppressed?
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:36 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
Lyon said under FL she is lead counsel, but considers herself a member of the team.
She said she does not feel this is a DP case, but won't comment on it because she is still learning the case. :confused:
Kathi asks Jose what questions should they be asking the prosecutor and why he is not looking for the real killer. LKB wants to know why they have put Casey in the same capacity as Ted Bundy. LKB said we should read the transcripts of the county witnesses Lt. Unser & Sgt. Richardson about the cell/medical facility events. The prosecution is responsible for what LE does. LE made an effort to take her out of the jail with the help of the corrections officers trying to prevent Mr. Baez from seeing Ms. Anthony.
Kathi - what does the prosecutors have to do with that?
Some attorney I do not know his name jumps in and says he has a question to throw in...why did they try to re-instate the DP in this case, we wrote a letter asking them to give us facts, witnesses, documents and information that supports and justifies this being a DP case and to this day we have not gotten a response. I would suggest you walk over to that building and ask them why all of a sudden this is a DP case after there was a waiver and I suggest to you the reasons are other than the evidence in this case because there is no evidence in this case.
*man walks away from reporters*
Kathi chasing man down sidewalk: Why are you worried about the DP if you say Casey is innocent?
Attorney I do not know his name: I am not worried about it at all.
Attorney I do not know his name seems angry.
jmo
That's Todd! Todd jumps in and runs away..........bye Todd!
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:37 PM
The problem is, though, that imo she doesn't look frumpy. She looks borderline obscene, popping out of the clothes and fondling the hair.
That's good too. I think they just want to make sure she doesn't appear pretty or like a "10". Because if she did look like a "10" then the whole theory of Casey is Zanny would prove true!
FallenAngel♥
05-28-2009, 03:37 PM
Cindy needs to learn how to pick out Casey's clothes a little better. Gesh that shirt is snug
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:38 PM
That's Todd! Todd jumps in and runs away..........bye Todd!
Todd? :confused:
so many people...friends, LE, family, non family members, attorneys, experts for the defense, wannabes....
Who the heck is Todd?
TIA
lizzard
05-28-2009, 03:38 PM
They could toss Casey the tape and she could measure herself. No touching necessary.
Silly AnniePooh, the clothes still wouldn't fit. She'd lie about the measurements.
IMO
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 03:40 PM
Silly AnniePooh, the clothes still wouldn't fit. She'd lie about the measurements.
IMO
:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
jammies
05-28-2009, 03:41 PM
If I wanted to purchase clothes for a client that I had only seen, or never seen, I would go with a tape measure. As far as I know a paper one would certainly be permissible behind bars. People purchase clothes through mail order and over the internet every day with no problem, and that's how they do it, so why would this be a problem for a defense attorney?
Maybe Jose's wife is purchasing Casey's clothes?? :biggrin:
neid_77
05-28-2009, 03:42 PM
Hi neid!
You're not alone! CAYLEE'S the one who should be at the front of this mess ... it's sickening to see this circus all to get her murderer off! If KC is so innocent, why all the delays ... Baez has had almost a year and what has he really accomplished ? Exactly, I rest my case ... as long as he's in the driver's seat, I doubt much will be accomplished !! JMO
hope all well with you denjet you are missed in another place but this wonderful forum is a good place to call home!!:thumbsup:
even though i do not post much i love this place so much EVERYONE wants justice for Caylee no accident lovers here just love and more love for sweet Caylee Marie, I don't post much like i said but I am glad to be reading and listening to all the wonderful people here!! I do not call Caylee marie Anthony no more she is way to good for the name!!! so she is Caylee Marie to me!!
glad to see you den
Caylee Marie:wub:
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 03:43 PM
Is the tape or the depos of the corrections officers necessary to convict Casey? Unless the corrections officers have some type of in-depth medical training, wouldn't their statements about Casey's reaction be personal opinions?
If Casey's reaction to the news on December 11 is a major piece of evidence in this case, then I would be worried.
jmo I would think Casey asking for medication would not be personal opinion.
Scampi
05-28-2009, 03:43 PM
Raw Interview: Casey's Defense Team
http://www.wftv.com/video/19591538/index.html
ETA ~ Jose talks about the rumors of discord amongst the defense team. Anyone hear this before? :scared:
He also says Casey is innocent of this crime, there is no reason she should be attacked, the defense team be attacked and a free pass being given across the street.
Thank you Des. WOW, what a PC. jose looked and sounded ridiculous and once again Kathy Belich was amazing. I loved how she kept following up on baez's stupid whine about asking the prosecutors the tough questions. As he should know the prosecutors are precluded by law in answering any questions about the case.
I am worried about Andrea Lyon. IMO, this is an attorney who knows her stuff. She will slap jose off like a pesky fly and run this case like the pro she is, imo. That process began today as she brilliantly fielded questions and he was made to stand there like her assistant. His huge ego is not going to like that, not one bit.
Malapaso was whining about why the DP was put back on the table, I wish someone would have yelled out BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!
This is going to be a very interesting trial to say the least.
msgatorslayer
05-28-2009, 03:44 PM
I think the defense may be trying to show Casey in a different light. As someone who isn't vain or selfish. One that cares nothing about herself now that she's in misery because her Daughter is dead.
Thus far, Casey has been painted as a party girl. Lot's a pics where she's in revealing outfits. Slim figure. Makeup. Pics that the defense would like everyone to forget exists.
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:44 PM
Kathi Belich is good.
Asking LKB about Mr. Kimball :laugh:
apothecary
05-28-2009, 03:44 PM
We despise these people, okay? Any and all comments about hair, weight and otherwise are welcome here.
Yes Annie I so agree.They put themselves out there for us to criticize.They all know they are on camera and if they can't take the heat....to bad.
Todd? :confused:
so many people...friends, LE, family, non family members, attorneys, experts for the defense, wannabes....
Who the heck is Todd?
TIA
He's the CA atty who was speaking about the misconduct at the jail.
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:45 PM
Silly AnniePooh, the clothes still wouldn't fit. She'd lie about the measurements.
IMO
Really it is quite simple.
Dear Mom,
When I was arrested the lst time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 2nd time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 3rd time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 4th time, I was wearing a small.
I am now wearing a medium working on a large.
Please find me clothes.
Love, Casey
jmo
denjet
05-28-2009, 03:46 PM
The problem is, though, that imo she doesn't look frumpy. She looks borderline obscene, popping out of the clothes and fondling the hair.
Hi there Imperfect!
ITA but KC and her defense team seem to be going for the "snug" look! Don't they see what they look like? To me it has nothing to do with weight and more to do with dressing attractively for your weight ! Geezz ... I don't weigh what I did in my 20's but I don't dress the way I did then either ... just sayin'
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:46 PM
That's good too. I think they just want to make sure she doesn't appear pretty or like a "10". Because if she did look like a "10" then the whole theory of Casey is Zanny would prove true!
Gotcha. :wink: As long as the OC doesn't look like a "10" ... the defense theory works. lol
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:46 PM
Thank you Des. WOW, what a PC. jose looked and sounded ridiculous and once again Kathy Belich was amazing. I loved how she kept following up on baez's stupid whine about asking the prosecutors the tough questions. As he should know the prosecutors are precluded by law in answering any questions about the case.
I am worried about Andrea Lyon. IMO, this is an attorney who knows her stuff. She will slap jose off like a pesky fly and run this case like the pro she is, imo. That process began today as she brilliantly fielded questions and he was made to stand there like her assistant. His huge ego is not going to like that, not one bit.
Malapaso was whining about why the DP was put back on the table, I wish someone would have yelled out BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!
This is going to be a very interesting trial to say the least.
Are they trying to stage a revolt against the pros? Are they requesting this. Good Grief! It's one thing when the media does it it's another when one side asks you to go after the other side. As always, Bad Form!
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 03:49 PM
Maybe Jose's wife is purchasing Casey's clothes?? :biggrin:
If she were, I think that BIG red and white flowered mumu that somebody upthread mentioned would have made several court appearances by now.:wink:
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:49 PM
He's the CA atty who was speaking about the misconduct at the jail.
Thank you! :wub:
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 03:49 PM
Ewwww... check out number 13! :scared: She gives me the creeps.
she seems to be keeping her eyebrows plucked pretty well..
Can they get that done there or are they allowed tweezers?
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 03:49 PM
I think the defense may be trying to show Casey in a different light. As someone who isn't vain or selfish. One that cares nothing about herself now that she's in misery because her Daughter is dead.
Thus far, Casey has been painted as a party girl. Lot's a pics where she's in revealing outfits. Slim figure. Makeup. Pics that the defense would like everyone to forget exists.
Well, the current attire, which imo screams I'm sitting on my arse in my cell all day eating Ding Dongs and pork rinds, and oh by the way, no one who knows me or claims to love me can be bothered to provide me with clothes that fit isn't doing much to improve her image. :laugh:
KP1935
05-28-2009, 03:51 PM
Gotcha. :wink: As long as the OC doesn't look like a "10" ... the defense theory works. lol
I think the OC is looking more like a 0 - a big ROUND zero!!!
StickyBeak
05-28-2009, 03:51 PM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
CA pic #4 I think, What is behind her ear, running down her neck?
Bad makeup job or got her neck stuck in the close line, JMO
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:52 PM
Todd? :confused:
so many people...friends, LE, family, non family members, attorneys, experts for the defense, wannabes....
Who the heck is Todd?
TIA
LOL we need a FLOW CHART! Todd is the "reconstructionist" Attorney from California who had a wee problem being allowed to join Team Baez when an accounting error and bounced checks were found in his account for other clients or something to that effect.
What he did today I expected from him from the first time I saw him.
Well you gonna email the Pros and ask them why they don't have documents the Defense requested or should I? :laugh:
You know if we don't that means Baez will have to come up with one of those dang, what do you call it? Ah a MOTION. You know how tough those are to produce. Reallly! Literally!
The DP "LEAD" seems like a tough cookie. I have no doubt she'll pull out the stops. Amazing how she just came on, doesn't know the case but has a problem that this should not be a DP case. Interesting.
trich
05-28-2009, 03:53 PM
Oh, you cynical little lizzard, you. :sneaky:
I thought the exact same thing as soon as I clicked the link another poster provided to her soon-to-be-released book.
Another player on the team putting her own interests firsts?? :ohmy: Tell me I'm dreaming. :rolleyes:
I thought that from the very first when I read that she has a book out.
It is so blantantly obvious to anyone that knows anything about this case.
I have no problem with the idea that she might be able to get Casey LWOP ...that makes me smile to know she would spend the rest of her life in prison.
Personally I think the only thing they can do it to try and save her life
jammies
05-28-2009, 03:53 PM
If she were, I think that BIG red and white flowered mumu that somebody upthread mentioned would have made several court appearances by now.:wink:
A mumu would HIDE her weight gain. Her too tight clothes show off every pork rind.
jammies
05-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Thank you! :wub:
Hey, des. I missed the show this morning and just read all 23-24 pages. Thanks so much for your posts. Felt like I was watching LIVE. Great job!
doradoll
05-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Gotcha. :wink: As long as the OC doesn't look like a "10" ... the defense theory works. lol
that part always cracks me up; a hispanic Angelina Jolie is watching someone's kid for free.....all night. perfect teeth....
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 03:55 PM
I think the defense may be trying to show Casey in a different light. As someone who isn't vain or selfish. One that cares nothing about herself now that she's in misery because her Daughter is dead.
Thus far, Casey has been painted as a party girl. Lot's a pics where she's in revealing outfits. Slim figure. Makeup. Pics that the defense would like everyone to forget exists.
IF that's what they are doing and it's actually a defense strategy, I think they should shoot for some look other than over-the-hill hooker. Just don't believe that will improve her public image.:huh:
missinglink
05-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Thank you Des. WOW, what a PC. jose looked and sounded ridiculous and once again Kathy Belich was amazing. I loved how she kept following up on baez's stupid whine about asking the prosecutors the tough questions. As he should know the prosecutors are precluded by law in answering any questions about the case.
I am worried about Andrea Lyon. IMO, this is an attorney who knows her stuff. She will slap jose off like a pesky fly and run this case like the pro she is, imo. That process began today as she brilliantly fielded questions and he was made to stand there like her assistant. His huge ego is not going to like that, not one bit.
Malapaso was whining about why the DP was put back on the table, I wish someone would have yelled out BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!
This is going to be a very interesting trial to say the least.
PM alert. :smile:
desmom
05-28-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
CA pic #4 I think, What is behind her ear, running down her neck?
Bad makeup job or got her neck stuck in the close line, JMO
Shadow from her earring visible in pic #5 & 6. jmo
apothecary
05-28-2009, 03:56 PM
And therein lies the beauty of this. Somehow, some way, this defendant (and her equally odious parents, because they have been and continue to be ever-present in this nightmare) has drawn into her orbit a team of defense attorneys just precisely as self-absorbed as she is. They apparently can't see past right this minute, either, which is a hoot when you consider how this could all play out and how ridiculous they could all look on sentencing day. And the lead attorney is incompetent, to boot. I keep blinking my eyes hard, expecting my vision to clear and none of this to be real. But it is. It is. Karma seems not to have waited for this one -- it's sitting right on Ms. Anthony's shoulder, along for the entire ride.
Its the cast of characters that makes this story so fascinating.
denjet
05-28-2009, 03:56 PM
hope all well with you denjet you are missed in another place but this wonderful forum is a good place to call home!!:thumbsup:
even though i do not post much i love this place so much EVERYONE wants justice for Caylee no accident lovers here just love and more love for sweet Caylee Marie, I don't post much like i said but I am glad to be reading and listening to all the wonderful people here!! I do not call Caylee marie Anthony no more she is way to good for the name!!! so she is Caylee Marie to me!!
glad to see you den
Caylee Marie:wub:
Back at ya, neid ... miss your passion, I've just been busy stirring up trouble ... LOL Reporting all of these crooked orgs ... If the case is going to move forward at a snails pace, at least maybe the Ants can be stopped !!
As always,
Justice for Caylee,
Den
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:56 PM
I thought that from the very first when I read that she has a book out.
It is so blantantly obvious to anyone that knows anything about this case.
I have no problem with the idea that she might be able to get Casey LWOP ...that makes me smile to know she would spend the rest of her life in prison.
Personally I think the only thing they can do it to try and save her life
I was surprised that this was a DP case and personally I thought the opposite. I think the evidence is there but I thought it was a strategic move that they didn't put it out in order to get a conviction :shrug:
Daffodil
05-28-2009, 03:58 PM
Asking LKB about Mr. Kimball :laugh:
Who is Mr. Kimball? I didn't get it. But I love how KB was almost able to steer the pc. She will yet. And I think the other media people will allow her to do it.
lizzard
05-28-2009, 03:59 PM
How did Lavinia make out on her prediction? May 26, post #281
I vote:
no glasses
hair down
slacks
sweater AND blouse
chubbed
Rubbing hands
quick smile
__________________
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says, "Oh crap. She's up."
my bold.
I can't copy qoutes :blushing:
Buttoneyes
05-28-2009, 03:59 PM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
CA pic #4 I think, What is behind her ear, running down her neck?
Bad makeup job or got her neck stuck in the close line, JMO
Earring, shadow from earring running into wrinkle?
Neffy
05-28-2009, 03:59 PM
Who is Mr. Kimball? I didn't get it. But I love how KB was almost able to steer the pc. She will yet. And I think the other media people will allow her to do it.
The guy Harrison Ford played as "The Fugitive" :laugh::laugh:
desmom
05-28-2009, 04:00 PM
LOL we need a FLOW CHART! Todd is the "reconstructionist" Attorney from California who had a wee problem being allowed to join Team Baez when an accounting error and bounced checks were found in his account for other clients or something to that effect.
What he did today I expected from him from the first time I saw him.
Well you gonna email the Pros and ask them why they don't have documents the Defense requested or should I? :laugh:
You know if we don't that means Baez will have to come up with one of those dang, what do you call it? Ah a MOTION. You know how tough those are to produce. Reallly! Literally!
The DP "LEAD" seems like a tough cookie. I have no doubt she'll pull out the stops. Amazing how she just came on, doesn't know the case but has a problem that this should not be a DP case. Interesting.
That man from California has an attitude...imo.
And I not going to do JB and Dream Team's job for them by asking the Pros questions. I thought JB said he talks to the Pros on an almost daily basis. He must be using an Anthony calendar.
jmo
Neffy
05-28-2009, 04:01 PM
How did Lavinia make out on her prediction? May 26, post #281
I vote:
no glasses
hair down
slacks
sweater AND blouse
chubbed
Rubbing hands
quick smile
__________________
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says, "Oh crap. She's up."
my bold.
I can't copy qoutes :blushing:
Where is that GIRL. I thought she was holding back to make and grand entrance. Hope she is well. She did pretty dang good. Other then no sweater she sure called it!
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 04:01 PM
Thank you Des. WOW, what a PC. jose looked and sounded ridiculous and once again Kathy Belich was amazing. I loved how she kept following up on baez's stupid whine about asking the prosecutors the tough questions. As he should know the prosecutors are precluded by law in answering any questions about the case.
I am worried about Andrea Lyon. IMO, this is an attorney who knows her stuff. She will slap jose off like a pesky fly and run this case like the pro she is, imo. That process began today as she brilliantly fielded questions and he was made to stand there like her assistant. His huge ego is not going to like that, not one bit.
Malapaso was whining about why the DP was put back on the table, I wish someone would have yelled out BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!
This is going to be a very interesting trial to say the least.
IMO the fact that Lyon, with little prior knowledge of the case, claims innocence, bodes ill for her. I question her knowledge of FLORIDA law period. She's gonna have to do some serious studying before putting out things to the public. At this point, she has been listening to Baez, and He's the worst attorney I have ever seen.
Neffy
05-28-2009, 04:02 PM
That man from California has an attitude...imo.
And I not going to do JB and Dream Team's job for them by asking the Pros questions. I thought JB said he talks to the Pros on an almost daily basis. He must be using an Anthony calendar.
jmo
LOL! Tru dat!
missinglink
05-28-2009, 04:02 PM
The guy Harrison Ford played as "The Fugitive" :laugh::laugh:
OMG!!! Now, that just cracks my arse up!
desmom
05-28-2009, 04:03 PM
Hey, des. I missed the show this morning and just read all 23-24 pages. Thanks so much for your posts. Felt like I was watching LIVE. Great job!
:seeya: glad to be of help.
If there were any boo-boos, the posts were jmo.
ETA ~ gotta run. check in later.
Scampi
05-28-2009, 04:05 PM
Are they trying to stage a revolt against the pros? Are they requesting this. Good Grief! It's one thing when the media does it it's another when one side asks you to go after the other side. As always, Bad Form!
Bad form, dirty tricks, smoke and mirrors, insinuations and smears in lieu of actual truth. That how the defense rolls, imo.
I am curious if Andrea Lyon will have a come to Jesus meeting with the OC and attempt to get her to plead this case out tho.
doradoll
05-28-2009, 04:06 PM
I seriously am not trying to be mean, but doesn't Andrea Lyon look alot like that woman in Boston that burned down the triplex of her son's girlfriend and then spent years in the insane assylum before going to trial. (especially in the pic on the top of her web page)
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 04:09 PM
Bad form, dirty tricks, smoke and mirrors, insinuations and smears in lieu of actual truth. That how the defense rolls, imo.
I am curious if Andrea Lyon will have a come to Jesus meeting with the OC and attempt to get her to plead this case out tho. I"d settle for a "rememberCaylee" meeting instead of let's do everything we can to save Casey. Caylee has never been thought of by the defense team imo. Or by the Anthony familyl imo. Let's throw Caylee under the bus to save Casey has been the mantra from day one.
september
05-28-2009, 04:12 PM
september, when I googled her name (c'mon, admit it, you all did) the first page that came up on her website was the book. What's that tell us?
JMO
Lizzard, I didn't even goggle her......that came up in court! She hit the ground running.
Dick Tracy
05-28-2009, 04:13 PM
Thank you Des. WOW, what a PC. jose looked and sounded ridiculous and once again Kathy Belich was amazing. I loved how she kept following up on baez's stupid whine about asking the prosecutors the tough questions. As he should know the prosecutors are precluded by law in answering any questions about the case.
I am worried about Andrea Lyon. IMO, this is an attorney who knows her stuff. She will slap jose off like a pesky fly and run this case like the pro she is, imo. That process began today as she brilliantly fielded questions and he was made to stand there like her assistant. His huge ego is not going to like that, not one bit.
Malapaso was whining about why the DP was put back on the table, I wish someone would have yelled out BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!
This is going to be a very interesting trial to say the least.
This is my opinion - I'm quite sure the state has a 100% link to the crime scene from the back of the trunk of that car, or the Anthony home, and or both. Otherwise, they would have never put the DP back on the table. I've stated over and over, the state DOES not have to show their hand all at once. Prosecuting a DP case is an expensive burden to the state, and I'm sure they thought about costs. If this case was entirely CE, with no "hard" evidence, they could probably still nail her, but don't think they aren't mad as all get out in the DA's office, knowing they have the HARD EVIDENCE, and still she's denying everything, and being made out to the be the victim in this fiasco.
I'm glad to see someone competent join her team. That said, I'm sure Ms. Lyons has never had a client like Casey Anthony. Like Baez has said, the best defense is FULL DISCLOSURE. Casey Anthony will never fully disclose what happened. We'll never know. What ever she says cannot be believed. Even if she was telling the truth, we'd never know that either.
No one else had reason to take that baby from Casey Anthony, kill it, and then put it 12 houses away in those woods she knows so well from her junior high school days. I don't need to see the jailhouse video to know she acted alone, and had no accomplice in the act of murder.
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Is it just me ??.. in the beginning of the hearing video it looks as if Cindy is giving LKB a once over look and appears disgusted??
LOL;)
http://www.wesh.com/video/19589412/index.html
Casey looks crazy at times..
http://i42.tinypic.com/r29vo4.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j4rb7t.jpg
need2no
05-28-2009, 04:15 PM
Really it is quite simple.
Dear Mom,
When I was arrested the lst time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 2nd time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 3rd time I was wearing a small. When I was arrested the 4th time, I was wearing a small.
I am now wearing a medium working on a large.
Please find me clothes.
Love, Casey
jmo
Dear Casey,
Due to my numerous media tours I now have to spend a lot of money on clothes for ME, and every now and then a little something for Dad. Not to mention hair and makeup expenses. I might have been able to help you if you hadn't maxed out all my credit cards. Casey you have no idea how many events we have to attend to support you, and in memory of that little girl. This requires a lot of clothes since the media is constantly taking my picture and I wouldn't want to appear in the same outfit twice. Also I've had to purchase several swim suits to wear on the boat in case the media shows up. You did hear about our boat, right? This isn't easy on me, you have no idea.
Sweetheart since you have a closet stuffed with nice (small) clothes here at the house, why don't you try to drop some of the ugly weight you have put on so you can wear them in court..besides it's rather embarrassing seeing you look like that, oh and you wouldn't believe the horrible pics those parasite media photogs have taken of you in court. Waste, huge waste (oops....no offense.) BTW, have you noticed how slim and trim I am these days, so just do like I do and drink lots of water and chew gum so you can shed those nasty pounds you've added.
Take care sweetie.
Love,
Mom
PS Dad sends his love too.
Neffy
05-28-2009, 04:15 PM
Bad form, dirty tricks, smoke and mirrors, insinuations and smears in lieu of actual truth. That how the defense rolls, imo.
I am curious if Andrea Lyon will have a come to Jesus meeting with the OC and attempt to get her to plead this case out tho.
I was hoping to see some real laws being practiced but they all looked foolish at this press conference. Unprofessional, LKB laughing, bringing up BUNDY? Todd jumping in running away. Jose, nuff said but I digress, asking the public to go after the Pros, and the new kid. Lots to say about this not being a DP case except that she knows anything about the case. I didn't expect this.
lizzard
05-28-2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks for snapping me back to reality, LizzardBreath. :smile:
:no: :lol:
Not yet!!!!
Neffy
05-28-2009, 04:18 PM
Is it just me ??.. in the beginning of the hearing video it looks as if Cindy is giving LKB a once over look and appears disgusted??
LOL;)
http://www.wesh.com/video/19589412/index.html
Casey looks crazy at times..
http://i42.tinypic.com/r29vo4.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j4rb7t.jpg
LOL yep she sure did. You know Cindy's disgust with weight and plus sized peeps.
lizzard
05-28-2009, 04:20 PM
Dear Casey,
Due to my numerous media tours I now have to spend a lot of money on clothes for ME, and every now and then a little something for Dad. Not to mention hair and makeup expenses. I might have been able to help you if you hadn't maxed out all my credit cards. Casey you have no idea how many events we have to attend to support you, and in memory of that little girl. This requires a lot of clothes since the media is constantly taking my picture and I wouldn't want to appear in the same outfit twice. Also I've had to purchase several swim suits to wear on the boat in case the media shows up. You did hear about our boat, right? This isn't easy on me, you have no idea.
Sweetheart since you have a closet stuffed with nice (small) clothes here at the house, why don't you try to drop some of the ugly weight you have put on so you can wear them in court..besides it's rather embarrassing seeing you look like that, oh and you wouldn't believe the horrible pics those parasite media photogs have taken of you in court. Waste, huge waste (oops....no offense.) BTW, have you noticed how slim and trim I am these days, so just do like I do and drink lots of water and chew gum so you can shed those nasty pounds you've added.
Take care sweetie.
Love,
Mom
PS Dad sends his love too.
:lol::lol:
You guys are making me cry!!
Sandy001
05-28-2009, 04:21 PM
Is it just me ??.. in the beginning of the hearing video it looks as if Cindy is giving LKB a once over look and appears disgusted??
LOL;)
http://www.wesh.com/video/19589412/index.html
Casey looks crazy at times..
http://i42.tinypic.com/r29vo4.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j4rb7t.jpg
I agree, but then in Cindy's mind, no one is as good as she and her family are imo. She has disdain for EVERYONE.
I am sure she won't like the new attorney because she is not a 10
Katprint
05-28-2009, 04:22 PM
That man from California has an attitude...imo. <respectfully snipped>
I found myself wanting shout the answer to his question about why the death penalty had been added now, after it had previously been waived:
Because a few days after the prosecution filed the death penalty waiver, CAYLEE'S SKULL WAS FOUND WITH DUCT TAPE WRAPPED ACROSS HER FACE AND ADHESIVE RESIDUE FROM A HEART STICKER THAT HAD BEEN PLACED OVER HER MOUTH!!! That's why!
At least, that is the meat of it. The other post-waiver evidence discovered with Caylee's body - the location of discovery being so close to the Anthony residence, the laundry bag being from the Anthony residence etc. - is just the A-1 Steak Sauce on top.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Shadow from her earring visible in pic #5 & 6. jmo
My favorite is #15:scared:
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:24 PM
LOL yep she sure did. You know Cindy's disgust with weight and plus sized peeps.
Okay, After looking at that video of Casey coming into the court room and seeing LKB from behind.........She reminded me of Dog (the bounty hunter) wife Beth... (from behind).
Tornado
05-28-2009, 04:24 PM
Bolding mine....
I agree w/you, although I do like Judge Strikland. With all of these out of town lawyers on the defense team, they are going to have to be better about trying to schedule things. I know the judge won't want to make it look like he is rushing things, but if the defense delays like this throughout this whole case, it will get to be a little bit ridiculous.
I had trouble watching Casey is court today. She just irritates me to no end and gets on my very last nerve. She sits there like she doesn't have a care in the world. She is smirking, laughing, and nonchalantly sharing notes w/her attorneys.:cursing: My only consolation right now is that I just know that she is in total misery being locked up in jail.:biggrin: Get used to it, Casey, you hopefully have a lifetime of the same ahead of you. Although I think prison will be much worse for her because she hopefully won't have her private jail cell and she will probably have to actually work.
Gah, I can't wait till her verdict is read and she gets led away in shackles and handcuffs. At the rate this case is moving it may be years down the road, but I have to believe that it is going to happen. If Casey walks free it will be the biggest injustice ever.:thumbdown:
ITA- but I don't think that even when the verdict is read that she is going to show emoition. I know I am waiting and visualizing her reaction but to be honest, I think we are going to get nothing.
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 04:25 PM
LOL yep she sure did. You know Cindy's disgust with weight and plus sized peeps.
Ohh yeaa thats right..I forgot how she feels about that!! lol
"Appearances" are everything to the A's!:blink:
GumShoeJoe
05-28-2009, 04:25 PM
Maybe Jose's wife is purchasing Casey's clothes?? :biggrin:
Now that is just plain laugh-out-loud funny.
Katprint
05-28-2009, 04:27 PM
I seriously am not trying to be mean, but doesn't Andrea Lyon look alot like that woman in Boston that burned down the triplex of her son's girlfriend and then spent years in the insane assylum before going to trial. (especially in the pic on the top of her web page)
Hey now, let's not get into the looks thing. I look WAY too much like her (seriously, appearance-wise I could be her sister) and I will pout if people start getting mean about her looks. :crying:
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
breezie
05-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Check out #11..uuhhh I think Baez is now aware that Casey's blouse is a little too - too tight !!..then again... this could be another reason she wore it..
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
no touchie in jail, but Court's ok, I guess.
Ladyhawk
05-28-2009, 04:27 PM
LOL we need a FLOW CHART! Todd is the "reconstructionist" Attorney from California who had a wee problem being allowed to join Team Baez when an accounting error and bounced checks were found in his account for other clients or something to that effect.
What he did today I expected from him from the first time I saw him.
Well you gonna email the Pros and ask them why they don't have documents the Defense requested or should I? :laugh:
You know if we don't that means Baez will have to come up with one of those dang, what do you call it? Ah a MOTION. You know how tough those are to produce. Reallly! Literally!
The DP "LEAD" seems like a tough cookie. I have no doubt she'll pull out the stops. Amazing how she just came on, doesn't know the case but has a problem that this should not be a DP case. Interesting.
Maybe what she really meant by not being a DP case was that Jose should have worked with the SA long ago and gone with an "accidental death/space cadet afterwards mom too scared of her overbearing crazy mother to report the death"...at least get her 25 to life with a chance of parole. IMO, he let his client determine what wasn't in her best interest to be her best interest.....this nanny kidnap story just isn't going to cut it.
Ellie
05-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Casey has no access to a wardrobe, and therefore no real say in the matter. Someone related to her and/or on her defense team should be looking out for her best interests with regard to her courtroom attire. They aren't. And it's not surprising, imo, but it is the height of cruelty on the part of her mother not to insure she is dressed appropriately for court, in clothes that fit and as much as possible camouflage her weight gain.
Imo, Caylee has been of no real consequence to the group on the defense side of the courtroom since her murder.
IIRC, Cindy hasn't been to visit Casey since... yikes, when?! So the only way she'd know what Casey's size is is through word of mouth. JB isn't going to go buy Casey clothes for her trial.. and lordy, LKB is the last person I think should be picking Casey's clothes out (someone once said she looks like an unmade bed. I loved that.). So... I'm sure Cindy is grabbing something out of Casey's closet for her for these trials. That shirt did not look new or even pressed. I do have to say though that it would be pretty tough to lose or even maintain weight when you're stuck in a small cell all day... certainly NOT defending Casey at all (he!! no!!!), just saying I think the weight gain is understandable and kind of expected.
Someone upthread also said it looked like Cindy had been crying when she walked into the courtroom... I agree, I think she certainly was crying. Maybe something happened when she brought the shirt in for Casey...
snowflakes
05-28-2009, 04:28 PM
One of the TH's on CNN said that Andrea Lyon's coming aboard was "a blessing" for Casey.
We'll see.
Scampi
05-28-2009, 04:28 PM
This is my opinion - I'm quite sure the state has a 100% link to the crime scene from the back of the trunk of that car, or the Anthony home, and or both. Otherwise, they would have never put the DP back on the table. I've stated over and over, the state DOES not have to show their hand all at once. Prosecuting a DP case is an expensive burden to the state, and I'm sure they thought about costs. If this case was entirely CE, with no "hard" evidence, they could probably still nail her, but don't think they aren't mad as all get out in the DA's office, knowing they have the HARD EVIDENCE, and still she's denying everything, and being made out to the be the victim in this fiasco.
I'm glad to see someone competent join her team. That said, I'm sure Ms. Lyons has never had a client like Casey Anthony. Like Baez has said, the best defense is FULL DISCLOSURE. Casey Anthony will never fully disclose what happened. We'll never know. What ever she says cannot be believed. Even if she was telling the truth, we'd never know that either.
No one else had reason to take that baby from Casey Anthony, kill it, and then put it 12 houses away in those woods she knows so well from her junior high school days. I don't need to see the jailhouse video to know she acted alone, and had no accomplice in the act of murder.
I think the Mighty Lyon's brief on why the DP is not acceptable in this case, will go more to no proof that anthony acted with premeditated malice. Just as Lenamon did, she will argue innocence and accident at the same time, with a dash of mental instability thrown in for seasoning. imo.
The state needs more then just a link from the remains crimescene to the trunk and anthony home, imo.
At any rate, with the addition of Andrea Lyon, this case just got a whole lot more interesting to me.
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:28 PM
Maybe Jose's wife is purchasing Casey's clothes?? :biggrin:
At Goodwill or Savers I hope.
She doesn't even deserve clothes from Wal-mart......
MOO
jammies
05-28-2009, 04:29 PM
Dear Casey,
Due to my numerous media tours I now have to spend a lot of money on clothes for ME, and every now and then a little something for Dad. Not to mention hair and makeup expenses. I might have been able to help you if you hadn't maxed out all my credit cards. Casey you have no idea how many events we have to attend to support you, and in memory of that little girl. This requires a lot of clothes since the media is constantly taking my picture and I wouldn't want to appear in the same outfit twice. Also I've had to purchase several swim suits to wear on the boat in case the media shows up. You did hear about our boat, right? This isn't easy on me, you have no idea.
Sweetheart since you have a closet stuffed with nice (small) clothes here at the house, why don't you try to drop some of the ugly weight you have put on so you can wear them in court..besides it's rather embarrassing seeing you look like that, oh and you wouldn't believe the horrible pics those parasite media photogs have taken of you in court. Waste, huge waste (oops....no offense.) BTW, have you noticed how slim and trim I am these days, so just do like I do and drink lots of water and chew gum so you can shed those nasty pounds you've added.
Take care sweetie.
Love,
Mom
PS Dad sends his love too.
Oh my aching sides!! :laugh::laugh:
neid_77
05-28-2009, 04:30 PM
Is it just me ??.. in the beginning of the hearing video it looks as if Cindy is giving LKB a once over look and appears disgusted??
LOL;)
http://www.wesh.com/video/19589412/index.html
Casey looks crazy at times..
http://i42.tinypic.com/r29vo4.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j4rb7t.jpg
your right LOL she just shakes her head in disgust looking at her I wonder why??? unreal thanks!!
Caylee Marie:wub:
jammies
05-28-2009, 04:30 PM
At Goodwill or Savers I hope.
She doesn't even deserve clothes from Wal-mart......
MOO
LOL UNWASHED Goodwill clothing. :biggrin:
Ladyhawk
05-28-2009, 04:31 PM
Check out #11..uuhhh I think Baez is now aware that Casey's blouse is a little too - too tight !!..then again... this could be another reason she wore it..
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19589536/detail.html
That's not Jose in pic #11, Jose's in #7 leaning in for a quiet word with "his girl".
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:32 PM
Ca A is a perfect 10 . I mean 20:smile:
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:32 PM
LOL UNWASHED Goodwill clothing. :biggrin:
ewww...But I totally agree:thumbsup:
need2no
05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
That's not Jose in pic #11, Jose's in #7 leaning in for a quiet word with "his girl".
I believe she was referring to the way the other attorney (can't recall his name), is looking straight at casey's chest in pic #11.
lizzard
05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
Hey now, let's not get into the looks thing. I look WAY too much like her (seriously, appearance-wise I could be her sister) and I will pout if people start getting mean about her looks. :crying:
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Awww, somebody needs a teddy bear. (((((hug for Kat))))).
jmo
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
That's not Jose in pic #11, Jose's in #7 leaning in for a quiet word with "his girl".
Even her arms are getting ready to pop out.
MissouriGMom
05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
I found myself wanting shout the answer to his question about why the death penalty had been added now, after it had previously been waived:
Because a few days after the prosecution filed the death penalty waiver, CAYLEE'S SKULL WAS FOUND WITH DUCT TAPE WRAPPED ACROSS HER FACE AND ADHESIVE RESIDUE FROM A HEART STICKER THAT HAD BEEN PLACED OVER HER MOUTH!!! That's why!
At least, that is the meat of it. The other post-waiver evidence discovered with Caylee's body - the location of discovery being so close to the Anthony residence, the laundry bag being from the Anthony residence etc. - is just the A-1 Steak Sauce on top.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
:thumbsup: Perfect, Katprint!
This defense team should get along fine with KC. Lies, lies, lies....she's innocent, no evidence, shouldn't be DP case.....blah, blah, blah.
:w00t:
apothecary
05-28-2009, 04:34 PM
ITA- but I don't think that even when the verdict is read that she is going to show emoition. I know I am waiting and visualizing her reaction but to be honest, I think we are going to get nothing.
I dont think she has any idea of what it will be like in real prison.She probably thinks it will be just more of what she has had with a private room and all with treats whenever she needs.She probably thinks she will just continue in her present lifestyle and for that reason will have no reaction to a guilty verdict.
doradoll
05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Hey now, let's not get into the looks thing. I look WAY too much like her (seriously, appearance-wise I could be her sister) and I will pout if people start getting mean about her looks. :crying:
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
I'm sorry! No offense intended. As far as any comparisons with you, I know you would never sit next to Casey, shaking her sweaty little hand.
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
I dont think she has any idea of what it will be like in real prison.She probably thinks it will be just more of what she has had with a private room and all with treats whenever she needs.She probably thinks she will just continue in her present lifestyle and for that reason will have no reaction to a guilty verdict.
But if she is found guilty and put on death row she will maintain a private cell. Not much will change....Maybe the treats, she may have to go with out her ding dongs and pork rinds....moo
Dells
05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Hoping someone will respond.
Did anyone find out who Cindy was flipping off at the last hearing???
Oh and thanks Lapis. Her appearence has changed but do we need 50 posts about it?? Jeez!
I think people were saying that she might have been flipping off Natisha Lance (NG producer) at the last court hearing, however they did appear to be friendly in court today so who knows?
As to the comments about Casey's appearance, people are going to comment on it because it is relevant to this case. The very fact that the defense team is making an effort to dress her up in civilian clothes, instead of leaving her in her jail garb, suggests, at least to me, that the issue is of some importance to them. As it should be. It is a chance for them to try to rehabilitate and try to change her image in the public eye. The fact that they did it so poorly, reflects negatively on them and their client. If they are unsure of her size, they are other types of tops that Casey could have worn that would not accentuate just how poorly fitting her chosen blouse actually was. It was if they put no thought or effort into it at all, and it showed. Not everything relevant to this case is going to be in depth discussions of case law, defense strategies, or evidence. sometimes the way something is said down to how someone is presented in court can have a real and true impact on a case and its outcome. There are also so many comments about her appearance because this board has a lot of posters and people want their opinion to be heard. I didn't get to the board till late morning and didn't realize that there were so many posts about Casey's appearance already, but even so I still wanted to post their opinion on the matter because I find every aspect of this case to be truly interesting. :seeya:
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
your right LOL she just shakes her head in disgust looking at her I wonder why??? unreal thanks!!
Caylee Marie:wub:
Sadly ..trying to figure out their mindset is next to impossible. If anybody Casey should be the one getting disgusted looks from her Parents not the goo-goo gaga "look its a rock-star!!" loving glances they do give. :bored:
Stella Rose
05-28-2009, 04:39 PM
I thought Casey's blouse was inappropriate for the situation...really unreal that she would have worn something so tight....but with this "Casey Anthony" it isn't a surprise..guess it will make a great scene when all of this comes out in the "Movie"!
Seems poor little "Caylee" is getting more and more pushed under the bench..huh?
No more inappropriate than her smiling, laughing, or jotting notes to Baez.
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:41 PM
Sadly ..trying to figure out their mindset is next to impossible. If anybody Casey should be the one getting disgusted looks from her Parents not the goo-goo gaga "look its a rock-star!!" loving glances they do give. :bored:
Did Casey even once look at her parents? If she did I missed it.
I don't think that Casey could look them in the eye. I think she knows they "know" what she has done and i believe that is why they have not been able to see her. Casey doesn't want to see them...moo
Has Casey seen them since her meltdown she had when she was shaking her fists and saying this was the most upset she has been since being in jail??
MOO
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:41 PM
No more inappropriate than her smiling, laughing, or jotting notes to Baez.
I think the DP attorney laid down the law!
margaritaville
05-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I think the DP attorney laid down the law!
when? After today?
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I think she laid down the law to G&C and the odious creature.
Ladyhawk
05-28-2009, 04:43 PM
IIRC, Cindy hasn't been to visit Casey since... yikes, when?! So the only way she'd know what Casey's size is is through word of mouth. JB isn't going to go buy Casey clothes for her trial.. and lordy, LKB is the last person I think should be picking Casey's clothes out (someone once said she looks like an unmade bed. I loved that.). So... I'm sure Cindy is grabbing something out of Casey's closet for her for these trials. That shirt did not look new or even pressed. I do have to say though that it would be pretty tough to lose or even maintain weight when you're stuck in a small cell all day... certainly NOT defending Casey at all (he!! no!!!), just saying I think the weight gain is understandable and kind of expected.
Someone upthread also said it looked like Cindy had been crying when she walked into the courtroom... I agree, I think she certainly was crying. Maybe something happened when she brought the shirt in for Casey...
I have noticed that whenever Cindy is going to see Casey in court (and even the jail visits), she acts like she is just so very sad and this is such an ordeal for her and that she is really really hurting....yet when Casey is not expected in court, Cindy is her usual tough, no nonsense, sign language using self. I think she is playing a head game with Casey and it may be deliberate or not.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:43 PM
when? After today?
Before court
Imperfect4
05-28-2009, 04:43 PM
IIRC, Cindy hasn't been to visit Casey since... yikes, when?! So the only way she'd know what Casey's size is is through word of mouth. JB isn't going to go buy Casey clothes for her trial.. and lordy, LKB is the last person I think should be picking Casey's clothes out (someone once said she looks like an unmade bed. I loved that.). So... I'm sure Cindy is grabbing something out of Casey's closet for her for these trials. That shirt did not look new or even pressed. I do have to say though that it would be pretty tough to lose or even maintain weight when you're stuck in a small cell all day... certainly NOT defending Casey at all (he!! no!!!), just saying I think the weight gain is understandable and kind of expected.
Someone upthread also said it looked like Cindy had been crying when she walked into the courtroom... I agree, I think she certainly was crying. Maybe something happened when she brought the shirt in for Casey...
... a button flew off and hit her in the eye? :w00t:
Ahem. But seriously ... Casey knows her size. She tells Baez. Baez phones or texts or emails mummy, and mummy either selects clothing in the proper size from a closet, or goes out and spends a few to get a right-fitting top and slacks for the OC. Should be a snap to accomplish. But nooooooo. Incompetence, insincerity and a lack of care rule the day.
Cynthia
05-28-2009, 04:43 PM
Really wish someone would help out the defense women with the coloring of their hair.
My favorite is #15:scared:
OMG, someone picked a very unflattering shot, almost like a fun house mirror that stretches you out. remember the Widette family from Saturday Night Live? Casey could be a relative of them.
need2no
05-28-2009, 04:45 PM
But if she is found guilty and put on death row she will maintain a private cell. Not much will change....Maybe the treats, she may have to go with out her ding dongs and pork rinds....moo
The Daily Routine of Death Row Inmates
A Death Row cell is 6 x 9 x 9.5 feet high.
Death Row inmates are served meals three times a day: at 5:00 am, from 10:30 am to 11:00 am and from 4:00 pm to 4:30 pm
Inmates are allowed plates and spoons to eat their meals.
All inmate visitors must be approved before visitation is allowed.
The inmates may shower every other day.
Death Row inmates are counted at least once an hour. They are escorted in handcuffs and wear them everywhere except in their cells, the exercise yard and the shower.
Inmates may receive mail every day except holidays and weekends. They may have cigarettes, snacks, radios and 13" televisions in their cells. They do not have cable television or air-conditioning and they are not allowed to be with each other in a common room. They can watch church services on closed circuit television. While on Death Watch, inmates may have radios and televisions positioned outside their cell bars.
Death Row inmates can be distinguished from other inmates by their orange t-shirts.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/#Routine
It appears the difference would be she would have a smaller cell, shower every other day instead of everyday, she can smoke and have a TV, also visitors would have to be approved.
I was hoping to see some real laws being practiced but they all looked foolish at this press conference. Unprofessional, LKB laughing, bringing up BUNDY? Todd jumping in running away. Jose, nuff said but I digress, asking the public to go after the Pros, and the new kid. Lots to say about this not being a DP case except that she knows anything about the case. I didn't expect this.
They look like liars, hypocrites and fools. I am anxious to hear atty Scheafer's take on the possible Lyon motion. From what we've read so far, it certainly appears to be a death penalty case.
Something about Todd reminds me of Cutler. Maybe the balding head.
Did I hear Baez say "employ" when he should have said "implore"?
Dells
05-28-2009, 04:45 PM
IMO she should be in her blues until trial time..but I think her mother could get her a shirt or jacket that may even be larger than need be it would be better than her buttons about popping off IMO..actually I do not care what she wears she will always be a evil monster with no emotion..she can be 500 pounds for all I care her fault lazy lazy and eating her bon bons and cookies must be helping her out..it is her lack of emotion that bothers me more than her weight gain...
Bolding mine....
I do find it interesting that she is allowed to wear civilian clothes to court now, when a jury has not been picked yet. I guess since it is televised that the potential jury pool has the opportunity to see her, so maybe that is why it is allowed? In today's court appearance, I think it would have been better for her to be in her prison uniform rather than the outfit she wore.:blushing:
Really wish someone would help out the defense women with the coloring of their hair.
Stacy and Clinton, you're needed in the courtroom, bring the 360 degree mirror..stat!!
TunaMelt
05-28-2009, 04:46 PM
Really wish someone would help out the defense women with the coloring of their hair.
Wish someone would help us out by starting a new thread, LOL.
Somebody?
Anybody?
:wink:
neid_77
05-28-2009, 04:47 PM
Before court
perhaps Cindy wasn't shaking her head at baden but the new defense lady becouse she wasn't going to get her way with this new lawyer. Cindy is superior to all you know!! wonder if she told the Queen Cindy something she didn't want to hear.
Caylee Marie:wub:
Neffy
05-28-2009, 04:47 PM
Maybe what she really meant by not being a DP case was that Jose should have worked with the SA long ago and gone with an "accidental death/space cadet afterwards mom too scared of her overbearing crazy mother to report the death"...at least get her 25 to life with a chance of parole. IMO, he let his client determine what wasn't in her best interest to be her best interest.....this nanny kidnap story just isn't going to cut it.
I thought of that but then we have Senoir Baez spouting Casey is innocent and I don't recall but the DP atty might have also said this.
Then again. This DP atty repeatedly states she JUST came aboard and isn't knowledgable about the case. What the heck?
Dells
05-28-2009, 04:48 PM
Agreed...........LE will check out other people so that it wont be able to be said "A rush to judgement"....which also is a big phrase used by defense attornies...So LE will check out numerous people and eliminate them....most of the time thru polygraph test (investigative tool)...seeing as the Anthony's (all of them) refused to take a poly they should have been first on the suspect list....
But with all the lies that Casey told AFTER the fact....it's going to be pretty hard for any defense team to try and put the focus on anyone other than Casey.....JMO
Bolding mine....
I so agree w/you! I think it should also be noted that to date, none of The Anthony's have taken a polygraph test as well. Very telling, IMO.
TunaMelt
05-28-2009, 04:48 PM
Hi.......:wink:
Dells
05-28-2009, 04:49 PM
Exactly. Jessie is who the defense is after. Asking for the other records is a smoke screen to "hide" this fact. No one has ever referred to Jessie as a suspect except Baez, Cindy & George. He's their target to dig up something.
I so agree w/you, and it is shameful, IMO. I can understand wanting to give your client the best defense that you can, but to point the finger at innocent people is just deplorable and despicable.:sneaky:
TunaMelt
05-28-2009, 04:49 PM
new thread started>>>>>>>>>>
kOOkie1
05-28-2009, 04:50 PM
Wish someone would help us out by starting a new thread, LOL.
Somebody?
Anybody?
:wink:
:smile:haha;)
Maybe what she really meant by not being a DP case was that Jose should have worked with the SA long ago and gone with an "accidental death/space cadet afterwards mom too scared of her overbearing crazy mother to report the death"...at least get her 25 to life with a chance of parole. IMO, he let his client determine what wasn't in her best interest to be her best interest.....this nanny kidnap story just isn't going to cut it.
What gets me is that they keep saying INNOCENT. Okay, so she's innocent so you let her sit in jail while stalling the trial? If she's innocent go to trial as soon as possible.
Why it will take so long is not because she is innocent, but rather that they have to concoct a plausible scenario and cast doubt to someone else.
MissouriGMom
05-28-2009, 04:50 PM
Hi.......:wink:
Thanks, Tuna! :wub:
TunaMelt
05-28-2009, 04:50 PM
wish someone would help us out by starting a new thread, lol.
Somebody?
Anybody?
:wink:
new thread this way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
need2no
05-28-2009, 04:50 PM
Stacy and Clinton, you're needed in the courtroom, bring the 360 degree mirror..stat!!
LOL- they would sure have their work cut out for them! I can just picture all those lovely clothes hitting the trash barrel. :laugh:
Dells
05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
I agree. She needs to stay away from the button up the front cotton with spandex shirts or at least be provided with a blazer type jacket to wear if the shirt is too tight.
Casey is going to court, not to the club. jmo
The sweater that she wore over the cotton top that she wore during her last court appearance would be the way to go, IMO. That was flattering on her. The button up tops, not so much.
Explorer
05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
OMG, someone picked a very unflattering shot, almost like a fun house mirror that stretches you out. remember the Widette family from Saturday Night Live? Casey could be a relative of them.
If she and LKB stood side by side you couldnt tell the difference.
... a button flew off and hit her in the eye? :w00t:
Ahem. But seriously ... Casey knows her size. She tells Baez. Baez phones or texts or emails mummy, and mummy either selects clothing in the proper size from a closet, or goes out and spends a few to get a right-fitting top and slacks for the OC. Should be a snap to accomplish. But nooooooo. Incompetence, insincerity and a lack of care rule the day.
"Sweetheart, it's not my fault all the fat, lazy bloggers were talking about how badly your clothes fit, it's your fault for telling me those lies when I asked you your size"
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