Tuesday, May 26, 2009

[adair]

Very interesting, because apparently G&C cleaned that car in the garage, scrubbed and scrubbed and "never got rid of the smell."

You're right, I think most people would say, "never forget" and that is not what George said.

Great post

I for one have never tried to get rid of decomp smell....anyone else?

So how would one "know" that you can not get rid of that smell?

Who is keeping "the list"? I think we should add that to the
" lie/mis-truth list" .

moo

[Dick Tracy]

Great post

I for one have never tried to get rid of decomp smell....anyone else?

So how would one "know" that you can not get rid of that smell?

Who is keeping "the list"? I think we should add that to the
" lie/mis-truth list" .

moo

I am the keeper of the list. It's in the super secret top drawer of the NODA crypto room.

[adair]

Just watch for the weird commas .... and skip and scroll :-)

Not worth it. I've never seen anything meaningful "It" has posted.


But, But ...I post with weird commas and spaces:confused:

[Oregongal]

Does anyone know what video Albi is talking about at the end of the second video? A breakfast video with Caylee???

I haven't gone thru all the Albi vids yet, but I'm thinking that breakfast video is the one of Caylee sitting the high chair eating breakfast and someone was videoing her and saying nothing. Coming in close to her, going under the tray and still videoing her. Zooming in and out on Caylee. It was creepy. How anyone could video a baby and not say a word to them when that baby was obviously trying to make some kind of 'human' contact with the person behind the camera, I didn't get it then and just thinking about it now still creeps me out.

[eagleeer]

[quote=Booklover;13141766]

Thanks lover :wink:

Yes, it is horribly sad. I feel after observing this weird family for months on end that they only thought of lil Caylee as a toy baby doll.
Not a real live person.
I feel that for them, no, Caylee's life had no real meaning.
:crying:

For comparison only, Jon Benet was a baby doll as well who fell to the same fate. No one will ever convince me that when Jon Benet told Patsy Ramsey that she no longer wanted to compete in those pageants that there was a violent argument and Patsy accidently killed her daughter. Sadly the truth will probably never be known as Ms Ramsey is no longer here. Irony, Karma? Now a similar coverup with many players. I believe we will finally find the truth about what happened to Caylee. My belief is that Lee Anthony and Annie Downing have the KEY to unlock the door to the truth.

[AbbyNormal]

Good night everybody. My fingers are posting slydexic wrods too many timse.

[SC7501]

Yes, I don't have it bookmarked, but pull up albi's channel and search for "strange breakfast with caylee" -- that should be enough to bring it up. It is very strange and unsettling.

Thanks Crimeq -- Strange is certainly the word for it At first I thought someone believed the camera was stopped or paused when it wasn't. I've gotten lots of weird foot shots that way myself. But when the camera zoomed in I had to toss that idea out...

[adair]

That poor baby. I think she was already gone though, and was only in the trunk long enough for transport.

CinA said, "When you actually see what's in there and think about it, I mean, knowing now, I still believe that Caylee's body...And I find it very hard to believe that Casey had an opportunity to put Caylee in there for a short period of time to get the car stench that bad and take her somewhere else." This was in her statement to the FBI.

CinA knows Caylee's body was in the trunk "a short period of time" to "take her somewhere else".

WHOLE COW BATMAN !!!!!! "When you actually see what's in there and think about it.."

What the heck does that mean?

(that i need sleep?)

jmo

[Oregongal]

I am wondering if any of the calls that kc made on the 16th..when she made a series of calls, anyone know if ad # was among them, and what about Lee or Mallory....did kc try to call them?

If no calls to Lee or M, that really bugs me, it does i tell ya!! I wonder if....kc left after the (non fight) ..... could she have gone to Lee ?

If she went to Lee, she would not be calling them? Has LE searched where Lee and Mallory lived? Were the location where L&M lived included in the Ping area?

jmo

Great questions adair. Eastside Joe and of course our boss Dick Tracy knows more about the cell calls and pings than I can begin to understand or remember, but I don't recall any calls made to Lee or Mallory.
And if LE searched Lee's place, that info as far as I know, hasn't been released yet.
L&M did live just a couple of blocks over from the Ant's so I would think the pings would be in the same area.

[crimeq]

But, But ...I post with weird commas and spaces:confused:

:wub: This poster does a very unique comma, which is space-comma-space, so it looks like this: wordswordswords , wordswordswords , seewhatImean?

Nobody else does this. Probably not in the whole world, lol.

So you are safe. That poster also posts with LOTS OF CAPS and I'm guilty of capping some words for emphasis, so ... there you go.


But neither you nor I are this wacko poster, so we can sleep easy :wub:

[AbbyNormal]

I am the keeper of the list. It's in the super secret top drawer of the NODA crypto room.Pssst, Adair has the decoder ring.........

(okay, now I really am signing off. You guys are great <3 mua)

[eagleeer]

Great post

I for one have never tried to get rid of decomp smell....anyone else?

So how would one "know" that you can not get rid of that smell?

Who is keeping "the list"? I think we should add that to the
" lie/mis-truth list" .

moo

As a matter of fact I have. When I was a teenager detailing cars in a used car lot, we got a car in that a person had died in. The smell was horrific. We stripped all the interior of the car and steam cleaned it as well as the trunk. We scrubbed the seats, headliner and door panels. We put air freshners in the car and put it on the lot for sale. After about a week in the sun, the smell returned almost as bad as it was before we cleaned it. We found out that the gasses of decomposition permeated the metal in the car and there was no way to get it out. The car was taken to the junk yard. Casey's Sunbird will never be a driver again unless someone has a very strong stomach.

[Oregongal]

But, But ...I post with weird commas and spaces:confused:

As do I. But, we know who we are.
:laugh:

[crimeq]

I haven't gone thru all the Albi vids yet, but I'm thinking that breakfast video is the one of Caylee sitting the high chair eating breakfast and someone was videoing her and saying nothing. Coming in close to her, going under the tray and still videoing her. Zooming in and out on Caylee. It was creepy. How anyone could video a baby and not say a word to them when that baby was obviously trying to make some kind of 'human' contact with the person behind the camera, I didn't get it then and just thinking about it now still creeps me out.

Right, and then finally Caylee motioned to be picked up, holding out her arms, and ... no response.

It was a very strange video, indeed. Very troubling.

In fact, that's also the video where Caylee is saying in the beginning,
"I kee", "I kee" and then Casey's voice comes in and says, very clearly, "I kill", like she is guiding Caylee's speech. It was like Casey was trying to teach Caylee to say "I kill".

Now, who would Casey have wanted Caylee to say that to? Maybe, instead of saying "I love you", saying "I kill you", and of course Caylee not knowing at all what it meant.

[Oregongal]

Good night everybody. My fingers are posting slydexic wrods too many timse.

Good night darlin, sleep well.
:wub:

[SC7501]

I haven't gone thru all the Albi vids yet, but I'm thinking that breakfast video is the one of Caylee sitting the high chair eating breakfast and someone was videoing her and saying nothing. Coming in close to her, going under the tray and still videoing her. Zooming in and out on Caylee. It was creepy. How anyone could video a baby and not say a word to them when that baby was obviously trying to make some kind of 'human' contact with the person behind the camera, I didn't get it then and just thinking about it now still creeps me out.

That's the one all right. -- It is very strange the person with the camera said nothing at all. I find it hard to imagine it any of the Anthonys would stay quiet that long. -- MAYBE it was Zanny :w00t:
Seriously, I wonder who released that thing. Seems like it had to have come from the family. Didn't they notice it was a little strange???

[crimeq]

[quote=Oregongal;13141842]

For comparison only, Jon Benet was a baby doll as well who fell to the same fate. No one will ever convince me that when Jon Benet told Patsy Ramsey that she no longer wanted to compete in those pageants that there was a violent argument and Patsy accidently killed her daughter. Sadly the truth will probably never be known as Ms Ramsey is no longer here. Irony, Karma? Now a similar coverup with many players. I believe we will finally find the truth about what happened to Caylee. My belief is that Lee Anthony and Annie Downing have the KEY to unlock the door to the truth.

I didn't know that JonBenet told Patsy she didn't want to compete in any more contests? I wasn't following these cases at that time.

Did JonBenet have the power, at her age, to tell Patsy she wouldn't compete in contests anymore?

[crimeq]

Good night everybody. My fingers are posting slydexic wrods too many timse.

:biggrin: Sleep tight. See you manana.

[Oregongal]

[quote=Oregongal;13141842]

For comparison only, Jon Benet was a baby doll as well who fell to the same fate. No one will ever convince me that when Jon Benet told Patsy Ramsey that she no longer wanted to compete in those pageants that there was a violent argument and Patsy accidently killed her daughter. Sadly the truth will probably never be known as Ms Ramsey is no longer here. Irony, Karma? Now a similar coverup with many players. I believe we will finally find the truth about what happened to Caylee. My belief is that Lee Anthony and Annie Downing have the KEY to unlock the door to the truth.

My bold, I have a feeling you may be right on about this eagle.

[eagleeer]

[quote=eagleeer;13141857]

I didn't know that JonBenet told Patsy she didn't want to compete in any more contests? I wasn't following these cases at that time.

Did JonBenet have the power, at her age, to tell Patsy she wouldn't compete in contests anymore?

I don't think that it was a matter of power but Jon Benet wanted to be like any other child her own age and was tired of the constant routine of the pageants and school etc. That was too much for a child her age. It was Patsy's dream for her daughter to be a beauty queen, not Jon Benet's. It was forced on her by a controling mother who wanted the fame.

[Oregongal]

That's the one all right. -- It is very strange the person with the camera said nothing at all. I find it hard to imagine it any of the Anthonys would stay quiet that long. -- MAYBE it was Zanny :w00t:
Seriously, I wonder who released that thing. Seems like it had to have come from the family. Didn't they notice it was a little strange???

:lol::lol:
Sorry, I'm getting sleepy and silly, but what I bolded struck me as hilarious.
This family thinking this was strange?
I have a hard time thinking they believe anything they do is strange.

[crimeq]

[quote=crimeq;13141871]

(Response to Eagleeer: somehow the quoting got messed up.)

I don't think that it was a matter of power but Jon Benet wanted to be like any other child her own age and was tired of the constant routine of the pageants and school etc. That was too much for a child her age. It was Patsy's dream for her daughter to be a beauty queen, not Jon Benet's. It was forced on her by a controling mother who wanted the fame.

I agree with all you say, but do we have any evidence that JonBenet expressed that to her mother, or it became an issue between them?

[eagleeer]

[quote=eagleeer;13141878]

I agree with all you say, but do we have any evidence that JonBenet expressed that to her mother, or it became an issue between them?

It has been so long ago and I wasn't on the blogs then. I know I heard in the media that Jon Benet was tired of the routine and wanted to be a normal little girl playing with her friends. I think this came from a family member if I recall correctly. This is off topic and I only meant to use it as an analogy.

[Oregongal]

Where'd everyone go?

[Oregongal]

To anyone who's still out there....
good night and sleep well.
:wub:

[crimeq]

Where'd everyone go?

:wub: OG I think everyone has gone to bed, and that's where I have to go now, too. SO good to see you here, as always. I will touch base tomorrow, no doubt, and look forward to seeing you then. :wub:

[eagleeer]

Eagle in the nest. Tomorrows another day. Wait a minute. It is tomorrow. Gnight

[adair]

As a matter of fact I have. When I was a teenager detailing cars in a used car lot, we got a car in that a person had died in. The smell was horrific. We stripped all the interior of the car and steam cleaned it as well as the trunk. We scrubbed the seats, headliner and door panels. We put air freshners in the car and put it on the lot for sale. After about a week in the sun, the smell returned almost as bad as it was before we cleaned it. We found out that the gasses of decomposition permeated the metal in the car and there was no way to get it out. The car was taken to the junk yard. Casey's Sunbird will never be a driver again unless someone has a very strong stomach.


Something to take note of.....GA worked for his father, this was brought up earlier in the thread, i think his dad had a new/used car dealership.
I remember Lee talking about A & A auto, which i guess G ran? This was probably after he put his father thru a window? Who knows? I think this was after he was a deputy. This was after he met Cindy and it was all down hill from there..........jmo moo ( i wonder if she made him "retire" from his deputy job) ???

So anyway what i am talking about is that George in his life time has had a great deal of experience detailing cars. Has he ever run across a car that smelt of decomp? I think he did infact run across one, and that one car, he probably used all the tricks in the book about how to get rid of odor......and not one of them worked.


joo moo jmho

[adair]

Anyone still up?

[Amy]

I am the keeper of the list. It's in the super secret top drawer of the NODA crypto room.

Come on, tell us the truth!!! YOU must be working for the same secret organization that Casey was the secret event planner for!!! Why else would you need a super secret top drawer???? HUH????? Now, no mistruths on this!!!:biggrinjester:

[Amy]

Good morning

You may be right adair. I don't believe for a minute that KC attempted to spill her guts to Annie and she changed the subject or avoided KC.
If a child came up missing and you were as close as KC and Annie were at one time she would not have behaved that way and avoided KC and what she had to say.
Absolutely LP knows how to bug a house. I don't think it would have made any difference with KC. She has been tight lipped and who would she discuss anything with.:rolleyes:

I would like to know why Cindy waited 31 days to wonder where her grandchild was. Would we? NO! I would have been knocking on doors 3 days after Casey left on out of the house with my Granddaughter.:crying:
It was only when Cindy learned KC stole from her that she went looking for her. Then she wondered about her granddaughter?
JMO


According to Cindy, she was calling or texting Casey everyday, sometimes more than once a day, wanting to see and talk to Caylee. She sent Lee out to hunt Casey down. She wrote the missing granddaughter thing on July 3. Too bad she didn't make use of the phone #'s and addresses for Zanny she told Morgan she had. If she was reluctant to use them, surely she could have given them to Lee to help in his effort to find Casey and Caylee.

[Amy]

I didn't know that JonBenet told Patsy she didn't want to compete in any more contests? I wasn't following these cases at that time.

Did JonBenet have the power, at her age, to tell Patsy she wouldn't compete in contests anymore?

That might be one of the theories as to why JBR was killed, but not according to Patsy Ramsey, who, IIRC, says that JBR loved doing the pagentry thing. Since JBR isn't around to confirm the fact either way, it's just a toss up, as to whether or not she told Patsy she wanted to quit. IMO

[desmom]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=354047