Caylee Anthony

[5boxersmom]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo

[Tornado]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo

thanks for the thread boxer, I agree. I think there is more to come.

[Lavinia]

A little O/T, but I'm researching Florida death rom to see what Casey is in for if she gets the DP and I ran across this pic of <shudder> John Cooey that I haven't seen before. (He looks kind of like Mini Me in the Austin Powers series.)

http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/ig/Florida-Death-Row-Inmates/John-Couey.htm

[lizzard]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo

Thanks for the thread, 5boxers. I was waiting over there, and waiting, and waiting......and then lightning struck and I found the new one!!:laugh:

[PROPROS]

A little O/T, but I'm researching Florida death rom to see what Casey is in for if she gets the DP and I ran across this pic of <shudder> John Cooey that I haven't seen before. (He looks kind of like Mini Me in the Austin Powers series.)

http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/ig/Florida-Death-Row-Inmates/John-Couey.htmOMG Lavenia, that photo should come with a huge WARNING!!! Just looking at him,makes me physically sick....mo

[Lavinia]

OMG Lavenia, that photo should come with a huge WARNING!!! Just looking at him,makes me physically sick....mo

Sorry, ProPros. Isn't he just the nastiest? barf

[PROPROS]

OMG! Everyone's worst nightmare! :cursing:

RIP Jessie.No kidding...I just left a Happy Memorial Day message to you over on the Christopher Coleman thread...:biggrin:mo

[Shells2]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo



Why do you think that? What is the latest development with Annie? I haven't been to the Caylee board in awhile and it seems like I missed something big..

That's one bonus to the holiday forums - I get to catch up on all the cases I have been reading all one on forum!

[Pretty Leaf]

I was sitting here thinking what Caylee would want to say to her grandparents if she could, with all this going on...


I thought.......



Who is defending me???

[legalmania]

Sorry, ProPros. Isn't he just the nastiest? barf

I don't think anybody will fall in love with him even in prison.

[lizzard]

I was sitting here thinking what Caylee would want to say to her grandparents if she could, with all this going on...


I thought.......



Who is defending me???

That made my heart hurt.:crying:

[trich]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo

I believe the prosecuters have asked her the right questions
and also have the right answers.
It will all come out at trial. IMO

[legalmania]

What the heck is everybody so tight lipped about. Geese have they all been threatened by the crazy lady Cindy, or what. So far as I know it, nobody knows much about Casey. All the way back from Jr. high to date?:thumb down:
My friends and I talked about babysitters and travel and work and all kinds of things. Whats up with these depot and walking out with the same amount of information that you had before they walked in.:confused:

I really believe that the forensics will speak for Caylee. How old was Casey when she got pregnant?

[MissElainyS]

What the heck is everybody so tight lipped about. Geeze have they all been threatened by the crazy lady Cindy, or what. So far as I know it, nobody knows much about Casey. All the way back from Jr. high to date?:thumbdown:
My friends and I talked about babysitters and travel and work and all kinds of things. Whats up with these depo's and walking out with the same amount of information that you had before they walked in.:confused:

If people are being tight lipped, I think it is because they know that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and perhaps feel their lives may be in danger from Cindy if they say too much. These are mostly young people in their twenties who are easily intimidated and don't know much about the law. Cindy has shown her true colors and I bet people are fearful of what she is capable of doing and getting away with.

It's interesting that you say that "nobody knows much about Casey all the way back from Jr. High to date." That is exactly how it was with that creep, David Westerfield, who killed little Danielle Van Dam. Remember? Couldn't find one person to testify in the trial or in the penalty phase about him in the present tense. Always, "ten years ago when I knew him, he was. . ." Never "I know him now and he is . . ." Maybe this is the M.O. of a psychopath. Nobody REALLY knows them.

[legalmania]

I think she was 21:confused:..Anyone?

I thought she was in high school?

[nothingnew]

I think she was 21:confused:..Anyone?

19 isn't it? Didn't she just turn 23 in jail? And Caylee would have been 4 in 2 months.

[legalmania]

If people are being tight lipped, I think it is because they know that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and perhaps feel their lives may be in danger from Cindy if they say too much. These are mostly young people in their twenties who are easily intimidated and don't know much about the law. Cindy has shown her true colors and I bet people are fearful of what she is capable of doing and getting away with.

It's interesting that you say that "nobody knows much about Casey all the way back from Jr. High to date." That is exactly how it was with that creep, David Westerfield, who killed little Danielle Van Dam. Remember? Couldn't find one person to testify in the trial or in the penalty phase about him in the present tense. Always, "ten years ago when I knew him, he was. . ." Never "I know him now and he is . . ." Maybe this is the M.O. of a psychopath. Nobody REALLY knows them.

Some expert didn't put Casey in the same profile as a psychopath, he said she was pathological and probably bi-polar. I forget what else.

[legalmania]

19 isn't it? Didn't she just turn 23 in jail? And Caylee would have been 4 in 2 months.

I thought Caylee was turning 3?

[MissElainyS]

Some expert didn't put Casey in the same profile as a psychopath, he said she was pathological and probably bi-polar. I forget what else.

I am no doctor so I don't know about medical terms but I will go as far as saying that anyone that would callously kill their own flesh and blood child is a pathologically twisted, cold hearted sob with no soul. I think Casey fits into that one.

[5boxersmom]

Why do you think that? What is the latest development with Annie? I haven't been to the Caylee board in awhile and it seems like I missed something big..

That's one bonus to the holiday forums - I get to catch up on all the cases I have been reading all one on forum!

Just Annie saying she spent the night with Casey when she was out on bail and they did not talk about Caylee or the case. Annie also said that her and other friends figured Casey was lying about her job but never confronted her or ask her any questions about it. I just think she knows things and Mr. Morgan has not ask the right question yet. Not that she is lying she just is not volunteering the info.

[5boxersmom]

I thought Caylee was turning 3?

I think she meant she would have been 4 this August.

[nothingnew]

I thought Caylee was turning 3?

Correct. I meant that this coming August she would have been turning 4, if her casey hadn't killed her, imo. But yes, Caylee was gone before she turned 3.

[legalmania]

I am no doctor so I don't know about medical terms but I will go as far as saying that anyone that would callously kill their own flesh and blood child is a pathologically twisted, cold hearted sob with no soul. I think Casey fits into that one.

That describes her better than any doctors terms.

[PROPROS]

I am no doctor so I don't know about medical terms but I will go as far as saying that anyone that would callously kill their own flesh and blood child is a pathologically twisted, cold hearted sob with no soul. I think Casey fits into that one.ITA...We had two arrests this week of a parent that murdered their own child...Christopher Coleman and Tiffiny Torobio..mo

[desmom]

I think she was 21:confused:..Anyone?

Casey's DOB is 3/19/86, she graduated from high school (per Brittany Schrieber) in 2004. Caylee was born in August 2005, so she would have gotten pregnant in November-December 2004? jmo

[legalmania]

Correct. I meant that this coming August she would have been turning 4, if her casey hadn't killed her, imo. But yes, Caylee was gone before she turned 3.

That is way to young to go through that.

[MissElainyS]

That describes her better than any doctors terms.



I can't help but wonder how she got that way. I wonder if this is nurture or nature. Looking at the mother and the father, I can see where she gets the lying and stealing and thinking that this is okay. But murdering your own baby. Where is her soul?

(I'm with you on the other issue as well. I think we need to get off oil and start using natural energy sources or we are going to destroy this country and this planet)

[TunaMelt]

I thought she was in high school?

All of 18 years old, I think.

I tried to do the math: Caylee would have been four this July, plus one year for pregnancy.

Around 18 I think.
:confused:

[TunaMelt]

I can't help but wonder how she got that way. I wonder if this is nurture or nature. Looking at the mother and the father, I can see where she gets the lying and stealing and thinking that this is okay. But murdering your own baby. Where is her soul?

(I'm with you on the other issue as well. I think we need to get off oil and start using natural energy sources or we are going to destroy this country and this planet)

That's the nature part, IMO.
She's missing something, in a sense. She was born that way.

Truly, I believe that sociopathy/psychopathy is part nature and part nurture.

:mellow:

[MissElainyS]

ITA...We had two arrests this week of a parent that murdered their own child...Christopher Coleman and Tiffiny Torobio..mo

I would not be surprised if this Torobio woman's lawyer ends up going with an insanity plea and pulling an Andrea Yates. The other one, I hope they fry his sorry behind.

[MissElainyS]

That's the nature part, IMO.
She's missing something, in a sense. She was born that way.

Truly, I believe that sociopathy/psychopathy is part nature and part nurture.

:mellow:

They should start doing some serious studies into the minds of these type of killers who kill their own children. Is it a missing gene or chemical in the brain or a quirk in the DNA string or what. I would like to know.

[TunaMelt]

They should start doing some serious studies into the minds of these type of killers who kill their own children. Is it a missing gene or chemical in the brain or a quirk in the DNA string or what. I would like to know.

Yes, indeed.
ITA.

There seem to be so many who fit the profile nowadays, it would surely be worth some serious study. If it's chemical, perhaps some people could be "fixed" and their loved ones could remain alive.

:mellow:

[legalmania]

All of 18 years old, I think.

I tried to do the math: Caylee would have been four this July, plus one year for pregnancy.

Around 18 I think.
:confused:

When you graduate high school your suppose to be looking forward to college and a new life, she had no husband, still home with parents, no education, she was starting out on a losing streak.

[lizzard]

Casey's DOB is 3/19/86, she graduated from high school (per Brittany Schrieber) in 2004. Caylee was born in August 2005, so she would have gotten pregnant in November-December 2004? jmo

Only if she'd had sex.

[PROPROS]

I would not be surprised if this Torobio woman's lawyer ends up going with an insanity plea and pulling an Andrea Yates. The other one, I hope they fry his sorry behind.I think what Tiffiny Torobio did to her son was vicious and horrible...He was such a beautiful little boy...She smothered him, gave him CPR and then smothers him to death...Then buries his little body in the sand...I hope she frys along with the other one...mo

[legalmania]

Yes, indeed.
ITA.

There seem to be so many who fit the profile nowadays, it would surely be worth some serious study. If it's chemical, perhaps some people could be "fixed" and their loved ones could remain alive.

:mellow:

There is this guy sorry I don't know his name but he has started classifying serial killers and people who murder and he numbers them 1 to 22 Casey would be a 1 to 3. There was somebody who was a 22 but I can't remember who.

[PROPROS]

Only if she'd had sex.Yeah right, another Caseyism that C&G bought hook, line and sinker...That was until Casey came clean and delivered what Cindy referred to as "Casey's Mistake".mo

[PROPROS]

There is this guy sorry I don't know his name but he has started classifying serial killers and people who murder and he numbers them 1 to 22 Casey would be a 1 to 3. There was somebody who was a 22 but I can't remember who.If 22 is the worst, that would be someone like Joseph Duncan...He is really one of the most evil killers that ever walked the earth IMO...

[ttcRider]

Anyone watching the Lovers & Losers on NG?

[PROPROS]

Tot Mom special on NG now...mo

[MissElainyS]

I think what Tiffiny Torobio did to her son was vicious and horrible...He was such a beautiful little boy...She smothered him, gave him CPR and then smothers him to death...Then buries his little body in the sand...I hope she frys along with the other one...mo

No more or less horrific than Andrea Yates when she systematically drown her children in filthy bath water one after another and then chased down the eldest, I can only imagine the horror that those children and especially the eldest endured. Yet people felt sorry for her because she was "saving her children from evil". And I believe that this woman is about to pull the same defense. I can almost see it coming.

[legalmania]

I think what Tiffiny Torobio did to her son was vicious and horrible...He was such a beautiful little boy...She smothered him, gave him CPR and then smothers him to death...Then buries his little body in the sand...I hope she frys along with the other one...mo

I was watching a documentary and there was this guy sorry no name again, and he killed his 4 children all under age 6 and didn't care he said he missed them but turned himself in to L.E. waived all appeals and was put to death within 5 years.

[desmom]

I can't help but wonder how she got that way. I wonder if this is nurture or nature. Looking at the mother and the father, I can see where she gets the lying and stealing and thinking that this is okay. But murdering your own baby. Where is her soul?

--snipped--

Casey has never learned there are consequences for her actions. It has always been someone else's fault and the family has been cleaning up her messes for quite some time. IMO, her parents enabled her by ignoring her stealing, lack of a job, habitual lying...

If you are never held responsible or never taught the difference between right and wrong, would you have a soul?

[101Spots]

When you graduate high school your suppose to be looking forward to college and a new life, she had no husband, still home with parents, no education, she was starting out on a losing streak.

Nor did she graduate high school. She started screwing up earlier than your scenario suggests.

[PROPROS]

Anyone watching the Lovers & Losers on NG?I like lovers and losers better than tot mom! (LOL)mo

[desmom]

Only if she'd had sex.

tee-hee. that's right.

[legalmania]

If 22 is the worst, that would be someone like Joseph Duncan...He is really one of the most evil killers that ever walked the earth IMO...

I don't remember but he beat Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gasey, B.T. Killer. 22 is the worst. I'm gonna look that guy up.

[PROPROS]

I was watching a documentary and there was this guy sorry no name again, and he killed his 4 children all under age 6 and didn't care he said he missed them but turned himself in to L.E. waived all appeals and was put to death within 5 years.legalmania, That is a horrible story...There is just no understanding that type of crime.mo

[legalmania]

I like lovers and losers better than tot mom! (LOL)mo

I'm watching.

[imc_e]

Jesse said Cindy is not mentally stable,

ya think? :sneaky:

[sunstar]

Hi! If anybody's interested Nancy Grace has a special on tonight all about Caylee and right now she's playhing the interview Jesse had with LE on 9/8/08. It's interesting! :smile:

eta ~ I just read other posts and see I'm not alone watching!

[legalmania]

legalmania, That is a horrible story...There is just no understanding that type of crime.mo


We love our kids and can't hurt them, I guess you have to be very sick. He never said why, but it probably had something with his wife he wanted her to suffer for the rest of her life. Greed.

[PROPROS]

I'm watching.Listening to Jesse talk about how much Caylee loved her little playhoue...So sad...mo:sad:

[imc_e]

It just never fails to amaze me how wacked out Cindy is, as a person, as a Mother, anything, just WACKED.

mo

[Tracian]

Wow...what an interview with Jesse.

I agree with Jesse about Cindy and the whole family.

[desmom]

Gotta run. Company. Check in later.

:rose: For Caylee

[ttcRider]

Jesse said Cindy is not mentally stable,

ya think? :sneaky:

It was eerie when Jesse said she would put Caylee somewhere familiar, somewhere close.. :sad:

[PROPROS]

We love our kids and can't hurt them, I guess you have to be very sick. He never said why, but it probably had something with his wife he wanted her to suffer for the rest of her life. Greed.IIRC, we have a mother and grandmother here in Ca.(on Death row)...They together killed the children because they were angry at the father....Listening to Jesse talk about Casey and Cindy's relationship, reminds me of what Shirley Pleasea said "I think Casey hates Cindy more than she loves Caylee".mo

[legalmania]

Gotta run. Company. Check in later.

:rose: For Caylee

Night desmon, pray for our falling soldiers.

[Tracian]

Jesse said Cindy is not mentally stable,

ya think? :sneaky:



Cindy is gonna blow a gasket hearing all this stuff...OMG...I almost feel sorry for George tonight...


Almost!!!!:tongue:

[PROPROS]

It just never fails to amaze me how wacked out Cindy is, as a person, as a Mother, anything, just WACKED.

moI blame Casey for her own mistakes...However, IMO, Cindy just belittled her constantly.....Even Lee admitted that..mo

[Tracian]

IIRC, we have a mother and grandmother here in Ca.(on Death row)...They together killed the children because they were angry at the father....Listening to Jesse talk about Casey and Cindy's relationship, reminds me of what Shirley Pleasea said "I think Casey hates Cindy more than she loves Caylee".mo


Well, not to defend Casey, but Cindy IMO, created that relationship herself.

[imc_e]

It was eerie when Jesse said she would put Caylee somewhere familiar, somewhere close.. :sad:

He gives a good view into the dynamics of the family.

He is spot on with everything.

Very very believable!

What a nasty Mother Cindy was to Casey..jmo

[Tracian]

I blame Casey for her own mistakes...However, IMO, Cindy just belittled her constantly.....Even Lee admitted that..mo


I agree. IMO, Cindy and Casey used Caylee as a whip to beat each other with...that poor baby never had a chance in that house.

[PROPROS]

Cindy is gonna blow a gasket hearing all this stuff...OMG...I almost feel sorry for George tonight...


Almost!!!!:tongue:OMG....can you just hear all these witnesses coming forward and blowing a huge hole in the "we were best friends story" that CA has put forth..mo

[sunstar]

Wow...what an interview with Jesse.

I agree with Jesse about Cindy and the whole family.

No wonder Cindy wants to throw him under the bus ~ very damaging interview, more toward her than Casey. :scared:

[imc_e]

Cindy is a "10". At least on the WACKED scale. :scared:

I agree!

I think her illness is untreatable, not sure but she has characterisics of borderline personality disorder which borders on many disorders and is UNtreatable.

I actually know someone with it, and as difficult as it is I was told its not against the law to have mental disorders. They are allowed to be parents and absolutely corupt their offspring.

Anyone born to these parents with mental issues REALLY won the lottery in life, NOT.

jmo

[Tornado]

OMG....can you just hear all these witnesses coming forward and blowing a huge hole in the "we were best friends story" that CA has put forth..mo

This trial is going to half kill CA- all of her lies will come out then and she is going to look like a complete idiot to the jury. She has done serious harm to any defense that even the elite could have come up with.

[PROPROS]

I agree. IMO, Cindy and Casey used Caylee as a whip to beat each other with...that poor baby never had a chance in that house. I can't think of one witness that has come forward to praise Cindy and Caseys relationship...In fact, it has all been negative..mo

[imc_e]

I blame Casey for her own mistakes...However, IMO, Cindy just belittled her constantly.....Even Lee admitted that..mo

When you learn about Cindy, you start to realize why Casey is how she is.

No doubt these 2 women with disorders would be at each others throats all the time. No doubt in my mind.

[Tracian]

No wonder Cindy wants to throw him under the bus ~ very damaging interview, more toward her than Casey. :scared:



Damaging to the whole family...think about it...Cindy tried to implicate Jesse in the first interviews with LE...'I think Zanny could be either Jesse or Amy"

Then Cindy tries to spin 'somebody else could have put a body in the trunk'

Then, Jesse is told by LP that back in Sept. 08 that family was already sure Caylee was dead, and were working on framing another person...

I bet the Anthony's are very upset that these tapes are out there.

[AMS]

Listening to NG... My gawd Casey "hooked up" with half of Orlando...so it seems.

imo

[legalmania]

The little snothead well isn't that the perfect way to talk about a beautiful little girl.

[AMS]

I can't think of one witness that has come forward to praise Cindy and Caseys relationship...In fact, it has all been negative..mo

I can't think of one person who has come forward to praise Cindy as a person...


imo

[legalmania]

When you learn about Cindy, you start to realize why Casey is how she is.

No doubt these 2 women with disorders would be at each others throats all the time. No doubt in my mind.


Cindy calling herself mommy in front of Casey that is not right. Casey killed the wrong person.

[Tracian]

I can't think of one person who has come forward to praise Cindy as a person...


imo


Yeah, not a lot of friends running to help them out with image.

[imc_e]

Hearing again how things were in that home between Cindy and Casey and how they used Caylee against each other, it reminds me of the behavior problems that Casey was having with Caylee.
The book about parenting, bookmarked on tantrums etc, there is simply no other way for a small child to react to such discord and instability, than to act it out. I think that they were starting to see some problems even in little Caylee, who, had she lived, would never have had a chance to be 'normal'. They were ruining her and in fact they did ruin her, she was killed by all of them. They all had a hand in it.

jmo

[lizzard]

I can't think of one person who has come forward to praise Cindy as a person...


imo

Her height is okay.

[MissElainyS]

Listening to NG... My gawd Casey "hooked up" with half of Orlando...so it seems.

imo

"hooked up" does he realize how silly that sounds? It's a good thing that they do not have Fleet Week in Florida. At least the United States Navy is safe.

[imc_e]

Cindy calling herself mommy in front of Casey that is not right. Casey killed the wrong person.

:laugh:

They are toxic to each other and to all of us.

jmo

[Dovey]

I was sitting here thinking what Caylee would want to say to her grandparents if she could, with all this going on...


I thought.......



Who is defending me???

Your spot on. I have wondered that also. Why oh why would C & G not support their granddaughter? I just don't understand from being a grandparent myself. Who is watching over Caylee besides God? G & C just don't seem to want justice for their granddaughter Caylee but only to protect Casey. It really makes me think that they may have been more involved in Caylee's death or coverup. Why the lies the obstrution of evidence, the coverup? The A's must be involved with something more than meets the eye.

I hope after Casey's trial all the A's get charged as then they can't plea the 5th and this is why I think they haven't been charged yet. If they charge C, G and L before Casey's trial they would plea the 5th admen when asked questions at Casey's trial. Hopefully they will get their day in court for what they have done to lie, coverup and obstruct justice for going forth.
JMO

[AMS]

Her height is okay.

Good hair :wink:

[sunstar]

Damaging to the whole family...think about it...Cindy tried to implicate Jesse in the first interviews with LE...'I think Zanny could be either Jesse or Amy"

Then Cindy tries to spin 'somebody else could have put a body in the trunk'

Then, Jesse is told by LP that back in Sept. 08 that family was already sure Caylee was dead, and were working on framing another person...

I bet the Anthony's are very upset that these tapes are out there.

I can't wait for Jesse's testimony at trial. Whoever cross-examines him is going to have a rough time trying to discredit him, imo, so the better thing for the defense might be to use his negative comments about Cindy to try to explain why Casey is the way she is. MOO

[AMS]

Jesse said Casey broke off the engagement because she thought Jesse loved Caylee more than he loved Casey....

imo

[MissElainyS]

Okay, I have been watching NG since this all started last year and for her to say that this is the first time she is hearing that Casey thought her fiance loved Caylee more than her is a bald faced lie. Nancy heard that one last year and remarked several times about it on her show. What gives with NG making like she is in the dark?

[ttcRider]

Good hair :wink:

I think that about sums it up... good height & hair. :laugh:

[Dovey]

I do still think Casey was involved in some escourt service, maybe they provided a nanny to sit for Caylee while she serviced customers. And could one be a sugar daddy for her defense payments?

[Tracian]

OMG..he dressed as Santa for Caylee....he is crying...and breaking my heart!!

[imc_e]

Poor Jesse, he would have made an excellent parent for Caylee.

:closedeyes:

[ttcRider]

Okay, I have been watching NG since this all started last year and for her to say that this is the first time she is hearing that Casey thought her fiance loved Caylee more than her is a bald faced lie. Nancy heard that one last year and remarked several times about it on her show. What gives with NG making like she is in the dark?

this is a NG Special Report on Caseys Lovers & Losers, its all past shows. :wink:

[PROPROS]

Listening to Jesse talk is so sad...I have heard this interview before and it still breaks my heart...Casey could have had a wonderful life with Jesse...He would have loved her and Caylee...mo:sad:

[MissElainyS]

this is a NG Special Report on Caseys Lovers & Losers, its all past shows. :wink:

Okay okay, I tell you everyting! I just tuned in. :tongueside:

[Heyes]

Damaging to the whole family...think about it...Cindy tried to implicate Jesse in the first interviews with LE...'I think Zanny could be either Jesse or Amy"

Then Cindy tries to spin 'somebody else could have put a body in the trunk'

Then, Jesse is told by LP that back in Sept. 08 that family was already sure Caylee was dead, and were working on framing another person...

I bet the Anthony's are very upset that these tapes are out there.

One thing we know, the anthony family is never too embarrased or too upset to not go on tv and try to drum up business for their sham foundation. Heaven forbid they work like normal people.
From what I gather cindy is sitting home on the computer responding to every single person who writes her. She really thinks she can bully her way thru this. Now it seems she is using God and her new found religion to try to sound superior to those of us who dare to have an opinion or others that try to help her see that she is basically leading her own daughter to death row. She seems to think she's some super star that is sooo far above us little people. Rude awakening alert!

[PROPROS]

Okay, I have been watching NG since this all started last year and for her to say that this is the first time she is hearing that Casey thought her fiance loved Caylee more than her is a bald faced lie. Nancy heard that one last year and remarked several times about it on her show. What gives with NG making like she is in the dark?This is a re-run of old shows...It is her Memorial Day Weekend special...No new interviews..mo

[Heyes]

Her height is okay.

lol lol lol too funny!

[PROPROS]

Yeah, not a lot of friends running to help them out with image.I can only think of two...Dennis and Sherry Milstead...:thumbdown:mo

[lizzard]

I think that about sums it up... good height & hair. :laugh:

Good. Now she can never say we don't say anything nice about her.:rolleyes:

[~Dramatica~]

O/T Dateline tonight
Friday, May 22, 9-11 p.m. ET: In a two-hour mystery about passion, manipulation and murder, NBC's Keith Morrison reports on the death of a fisherman, and the stripper and the steelworker who end up in the trial of their lives.

[MissElainyS]

Listen to Lee laughing it up about Caylee being missing for 31 days. :glare:

Anyone notice Lee has been obviously absent lately?

[playnice]

Listening to Jesse talk is so sad...I have heard this interview before and it still breaks my heart...Casey could have had a wonderful life with Jesse...He would have loved her and Caylee...mo:sad:

It brought tears the first time I saw it and tears again. I believe Jessie is the only person that really loved Casey and Caylee. If she hadnt threw it all away things would have been so much different right now.
Not defending Casey for what she did but I can sure see when Cindy screwed Casey up. I believe Cindy should have been in therapy years ago. I believe Lee is screwed up too.

[sunstar]

Listening to Jesse talk is so sad...I have heard this interview before and it still breaks my heart...Casey could have had a wonderful life with Jesse...He would have loved her and Caylee...mo:sad:

I'm sure he would've continued to love Caylee as his own, but I can't imagine him withstanding having Cindy as a mother-in-law. :scared:

[ttcRider]

O/T Dateline tonight
Friday, May 22, 9-11 p.m. ET: In a two-hour mystery about passion, manipulation and murder, NBC's Keith Morrison reports on the death of a fisherman, and the stripper and the steelworker who end up in the trial of their lives.

I've seen that one, its good! (its a re-run as well)

[legalmania]

I do still think Casey was involved in some escourt service, maybe they provided a nanny to sit for Caylee while she serviced customers. And could one be a sugar daddy for her defense payments?


You know that somebody would have rated by now. Especially if it had to do with sex the National Enquirer would have picked up on that story right away. Whoever babysat would have said something. People will sell their souls for money.

[djmsmom]

Okay, I have been watching NG since this all started last year and for her to say that this is the first time she is hearing that Casey thought her fiance loved Caylee more than her is a bald faced lie. Nancy heard that one last year and remarked several times about it on her show. What gives with NG making like she is in the dark?
I think they are showing the interview from last year, :biggrin:

[Heyes]

Your spot on. I have wondered that also. Why oh why would C & G not support their granddaughter? I just don't understand from being a grandparent myself. Who is watching over Caylee besides God? G & C just don't seem to want justice for their granddaughter Caylee but only to protect Casey. It really makes me think that they may have been more involved in Caylee's death or coverup. Why the lies the obstrution of evidence, the coverup? The A's must be involved with something more than meets the eye.

I hope after Casey's trial all the A's get charged as then they can't plea the 5th and this is why I think they haven't been charged yet. If they charge C, G and L before Casey's trial they would plea the 5th admen when asked questions at Casey's trial. Hopefully they will get their day in court for what they have done to lie, coverup and obstruct justice for going forth.
JMO

I agree!
Your last paragraph is exactly what I hope is happening. Can't plead the 5th. As soon as we hear GUILTY, I wanna see cuffs on george and cindy. They do not deserve to live off the kind hearted people who are thinking their hard earned money is going to help missing children. Nope they need to do a little time and then spend a couple of years in orange jumpsuits cleaning up the side of the highways in FL.

[PROPROS]

Listen to Lee laughing it up about Caylee being missing for 31 days. :glare:

Anyone notice Lee has been obviously absent lately?Haven't seen one interview that LA doesn't act like he is at the Comedy Club..mo

[JHP]

That's the nature part, IMO.
She's missing something, in a sense. She was born that way.

Truly, I believe that sociopathy/psychopathy is part nature and part nurture.

:mellow:

I think you've got it. There seems to be a fair number of sociopaths who are raised in a narcissistic enviornment who kill. It's a bad combo.

IMO

[Dovey]

We have never heard what LE took from Casey's wallet when Cindy grabbed the cash, LE grabbed something else, could that have been a fake ID with Zenida's name, why has this not been disclosed by the Sunshine laws, what did LE obtained that first night on July 15th?

[AMS]

Lee talking about Jesse

...there's plenty of opportunity for a motive in there.

What would be the motive for Jesse to kill Caylee? Have the Ant's ever explained their thoughts on this?

imo

[imc_e]

Remember Lee laughing about the smell of the car, which was Caylee decomposing, he laughed and laughed.

And the casual way he laughs when he is talking about Caylee when he is being taped in TonE's car, laughing about her being missing, so casual about everything, talking about Jesse and lots of motive he would have had.

Sick!

Then fast forward to the Memorial and his words and kisses for CMA CMA.

Sick!

I just don't buy it and neither will the jury.

[PROPROS]

I'm sure he would've continued to love Caylee as his own, but I can't imagine him withstanding having Cindy as a mother-in-law. :scared:Cindy should have been thrilled that Casey found a nice boy...Seemed like she didn't approve of Jesse...She probably didn't want to lose her control over Casey and ultimately have to share Caylee with The Grunds...mo

[Heyes]

Lee talking about Jesse

...there's plenty of opportunity for a motive in there.

What would be the motive for Jesse to kill Caylee? Have the Ant's ever explained their thoughts on this?

imo

Ya know AMS I don't think they have a reason why they think jesse killed her. I think they think their word is golden and the police should just let casey off the hook and arrest jesse cuz they think that's how it should be. Detective middle finger seemed to buy into it and is running with it. The poor Grunds. They sure didn't deserve this.

[AMS]

Ricardo - everything I thought I new about this girl (Casey) was not the truth..


imo

[imc_e]

Lee talking about Jesse

...there's plenty of opportunity for a motive in there.

What would be the motive for Jesse to kill Caylee? Have the Ant's ever explained their thoughts on this?

imo

Good question.

I think Jesse suggested that Cindy would/could say anything and he wouldn't be surprized.

Something about keys to the car, able to plant evidence in the car, and obsession with Caylee.

[Dovey]

I agree!
Your last paragraph is exactly what I hope is happening. Can't plead the 5th. As soon as we hear GUILTY, I wanna see cuffs on george and cindy. They do not deserve to live off the kind hearted people who are thinking their hard earned money is going to help missing children. Nope they need to do a little time and then spend a couple of years in orange jumpsuits cleaning up the side of the highways in FL.

Lee also, as he probably erased all Casey's Yahoo emails. If you read one news reported that all Casey's emails from July 15th were erased.
Sorry I don't have a link so I'll just say it's my opinion they were all erased.

[legalmania]

Lee talking about Jesse

...there's plenty of opportunity for a motive in there.

What would be the motive for Jesse to kill Caylee? Have the Ant's ever explained their thoughts on this?

imo

Casey probably thought he was a child molester because he loved Caylee so much, she probably told everyone he loved Caylee to much, she is so stupid she had the perfect guy, he would have done anything for Caylee. He would have watched her if Casey wanted to party.

[cassidy]

I get a feeling Annie knows alot. I think the right questions have not been ask yet.

imo


I get that feeling too 5Boxermom. Something just isn't right with her. Isn't she the one who spent the nite with Casey when she was out on bail?

JMO

[PROPROS]

Remember Lee laughing about the smell of the car, which was Caylee decomposing, he laughed and laughed.

And the casual way he laughs when he is talking about Caylee when he is being taped in TonE's car, laughing about her being missing, so casual about everything, talking about Jesse and lots of motive he would have had.

Sick!

Then fast forward to the Memorial and his words and kisses for CMA CMA.

Sick!

I just don't buy it and neither will the jury.:thumbsup:Not a normal reaction when a child is missing...In fact, I have never seen any emotion (regarding Caylee) from LA...The closest thing to "feelings" is the CMA performance and that was for Casey..I will never understand this family...Ever...mo

[imc_e]

Casey probably thought he was a child molester because he loved Caylee so much, she probably told everyone he loved Caylee to much, she is so stupid she had the perfect guy, he would have done anything for Caylee. He would have watched her if Casey wanted to party.


Casey would have literally destroyed Jesse, it would have been horrific for him. More than it has been now. He was lucky to have that relationship end. Seriously lucky.

[imc_e]

:thumbsup:Not a normal reaction when a child is missing...In fact, I have never seen any emotion (regarding Caylee) from LA...The closest thing to "feelings" is the CMA performance and that was for Casey..I will never understand this family...Ever...mo

I second that emotion.

Come to think of it when have ANY of the Anthonys showed ANY feelings for Caylee.

Truthfully, WHEN.

[legalmania]

Casey would have literally destroyed Jesse, it would have been horrific for him. More than it has been now. He was lucky to have that relationship end. Seriously lucky.


If they got married he would have fought for custody of Caylee and maybe she would still be alive. I wonder how hard Casey would have fought for her?

[Tracian]

Casey would have literally destroyed Jesse, it would have been horrific for him. More than it has been now. He was lucky to have that relationship end. Seriously lucky.


Casey and Cindy would have destroyed him...

[PROPROS]

Ricardo - everything I thought I new about this girl (Casey) was not the truth..


imo They(her ex's) will most probably be carrying Casey baggage into their new relationships...mo

[AMS]

If they got married he would have fought for custody of Caylee and maybe she would still be alive. I wonder how hard Casey would have fought for her?

Casey - no. Cindy - YES.

imo

[Dovey]

Maybe he would have asked to adopt Caylee if they would have got married. In that case, knowing how screwed up Casey is she would have been so jealous of Jesse and Caylee's father and daughter relationship. The marriage would have never worked out. Casey has to be #1. Her selfishness would have left her single for life.
Perhaps this is why Casey was confused with love and relationships. She wanted to be loved and her only way and know how was to sleep with almost anyone and be loved for that moment.
She has to be an extremely cold, selfish person on the inside. She didn't know how to lve so how could she teach Caylee how to love. That child was so confused. Bless her...

I personally don't think Cindy would have allowed anyone to adopt Caylee. After all she was the GMa err Mom was she not of Caylee?

[marshmallow]

I don't think Casey ever had the support system her dear mother promised her when she discovered she was pregnant. Cindy most probably thought Casey would settle down once she had the baby.
She was technically a teenager, doesn't act like she knew the father at all and she never opened up and talked about any of her feelings or her likes and dislikes about her life. Now I wonder if she was brought up in the same manner she treated Caylee, ignored. Cindy made a statement on LKL that she partied when she was Casey's age. She had to have had Casey at the time, too. You do become what you learn.
However, there are millions of young mothers out there and once they give birth to a child, mother nature kicks in.
All Casey did was go thru the motions a mother would go thru when she was around Caylee, in front of people. Behind closed doors she was constantly fighting with Cindy and running around without Caylee having a good time. This is why when they would fight Cindy would threaten her with taking Caylee away from her. Talk about a highly dysfunctional family.
JMHO


I don't share lots of PI but I will share this. My granddaughter is 8 and a half months old now. Her mom was just 18 when she was born. I love my son to pieces and I adore my someday daughter in law but I worried a little. I can say though, my granddaughter has a wonderful set of parents. They step up, they love their daughter, they take wonderful care of her and put her first. Yes, the other grandparents and I have helped some but only as an assist, not doing the actual parenting. Neither my son or his girlfriend wanted or expected us to. They work, she goes to school, and their world revolves around raising this baby.
THen I look at Casey and I wonder how in the world she ended up being the person she is. She made her choices but she is the product of her homelife. How do some, like my son and his girlfriend, turn out okay but others like Casey don't? I really think the key is teaching our children responsiblity, respect, and the value of hardwork and Casey never learned any of those :( but Caylee paid the ultimate price.

[msgatorslayer]

Lee talking about Jesse

...there's plenty of opportunity for a motive in there.

What would be the motive for Jesse to kill Caylee? Have the Ant's ever explained their thoughts on this?

imo

Also, what is Casey's motive for not just saying that Jesse did it?

Casey is one of her own worst enemies, followed by her Mother, of course. Her web of lies just keeps wrapping around herself.

[legalmania]

This song is dedicated to a beautiful girl who was taken way to soon. We miss and love you, we hope and will make sure you have a voice, and justice will be yours. We all Love Caylee.

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[AMS]

This song is dedicated to a beautiful girl who was taken way to soon. We miss and love you, we hope and will make sure you have a voice, and justice will be yours. We all Love Caylee.

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Thank you legal. I love this song. I blubbered through the movie Beaches.

imo

[True2Blues]

Also, what is Casey's motive for not just saying that Jesse did it?

Casey is one of her own worst enemies, followed by her Mother, of course. Her web of lies just keeps wrapping around herself.

Too bad they didn't tie her up before she killed that innocent baby.

[djmsmom]

Also, what is Casey's motive for not just saying that Jesse did it?

Casey is one of her own worst enemies, followed by her Mother, of course. Her web of lies just keeps wrapping around herself.

I think they were saying the motive for jesse killing Caylee was to get back at Casey because he was so jelouse of her and other guys. Lee says in the interview with TonE that she still was seeing him a couple of times a month, seems like for a booty call. There saying he wanted to get back at Casey and if I can't be Caylees dad then nobody can. JMHO

[sunstar]

Casey and Cindy would have destroyed him...

I agree. :sad:

[legalmania]

Thank you legal. I love this song. I blubbered through the movie Beaches.

imo

Good movie, Great song.

[IM4Truth]

"hooked up" does he realize how silly that sounds? It's a good thing that they do not have Fleet Week in Florida. At least the United States Navy is safe.

Oh but we do have Fleet Week in Ft. Lauderdale every year!

[lizzard]

:thumbsup:Not a normal reaction when a child is missing...In fact, I have never seen any emotion (regarding Caylee) from LA...The closest thing to "feelings" is the CMA performance and that was for Casey..I will never understand this family...Ever...mo

If you ever should find yourself able to understand this family, Cindy has a shrink she can recommend.:scared:

[PROPROS]

This song is dedicated to a beautiful girl who was taken way to soon. We miss and love you, we hope and will make sure you have a voice, and justice will be yours. We all Love Caylee.

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via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)I love the way you dedicate songs for Caylee..Hugs to you and all your many,many, fur babies...mo:smile:

[legalmania]

Well I gotta get back to work, may be back later.



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[msgatorslayer]

I think they were saying the motive for jesse killing Caylee was to get back at Casey because he was so jelouse of her and other guys. Lee says in the interview with TonE that she still was seeing him a couple of times a month, seems like for a booty call. There saying he wanted to get back at Casey and if I can't be Caylees dad then nobody can. JMHO

Right. that still doesn't explain why Casey led LE and her family on a wild goose chase looking for a nanny that doesn't exist. There is a flip side to the Anthony's giving a motive for why someone else could have done this. What is Casey's motive for hiding that persons involvement? To throw someone else under the bus still takes Casey with them. IMO

[AMS]

Right. that still doesn't explain why Casey led LE and her family on a wild goose chase looking for a nanny that doesn't exist. There is a flip side to the Anthony's giving a motive for why someone else could have done this. What is Casey's motive for hiding that persons involvement? To throw someone else under the bus still takes Casey with them. IMO

O/T

msgator - how's the FL weather looking for the shuttle landing tomorrow?

[IM4Truth]

O/T

msgator - how's the FL weather looking for the shuttle landing tomorrow?

It rained almost all day today in Miami, dark clouds, thunder.

[lizzard]

This song is dedicated to a beautiful girl who was taken way to soon. We miss and love you, we hope and will make sure you have a voice, and justice will be yours. We all Love Caylee.

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Thank you as always, legalmania. :wub:

For Caylee, because there are many people who love you. :rose:

[Heyes]

Lee also, as he probably erased all Casey's Yahoo emails. If you read one news reported that all Casey's emails from July 15th were erased.
Sorry I don't have a link so I'll just say it's my opinion they were all erased.
:ohmy: How did I miss that?
Ok, Lee too!

Didn't the police say, "lee knows what he's done" or something to that effect?

[PROPROS]

If you ever should find yourself able to understand this family, Cindy has a shrink she can recommend.:scared:Well, you can bet if her therapist disagrees with her or tells her something she doesn't want to hear, the therapist will be history....mo

[msgatorslayer]

O/T

msgator - how's the FL weather looking for the shuttle landing tomorrow?

Not good! :sad: The left coast has a 70% chance for tommorrow and the right coast has had more rain than us all week, so...

[PROPROS]

When I refresh the page,I get the Sprint Ad (at the top of the page) saying "Do you live to text"?...Very appropriate for this thread...mo:rolleyes:

[sunstar]

I love the way you dedicate songs for Caylee..Hugs to you and all your many,many, fur babies...mo:smile:

I too think it's a beautiful thing to do. I love this song. :wub:

[IM4Truth]

Not good! :sad: The left coast has a 70% chance for tommorrow and the right coast has had more rain than us all week, so...

That's the first time I've heard it referred to as the left coast and the right coast! LOL Actually when I checked WFTV earlier today from work to see if there was any new Casey news, it looked like Orlando had severe weather alerts.

[Dovey]

:ohmy: How did I miss that?
Ok, Lee too!

Didn't the police say, "lee knows what he's done" or something to that effect?


Yuppers I think LE were referring to the emails Lee erased from July 15th to prior dates.
JMO

[MissElainyS]

I second that emotion.

Come to think of it when have ANY of the Anthonys showed ANY feelings for Caylee.

Truthfully, WHEN.

Cindy is cold. If she would stop touching her face and chawing gum like a cow chewing cudd- that is so disgusting. Lee laughs and laughs and I do not think that is nerves. And then makes that memorial speech as if he is Romeo to Casey's Juliet. Gross. Casey refers to Caylee as "that child" and "the snot nose" so what does anyone expect from her. The most emotional she has ever shown was seering contempt for her mother during the first telephone call from jail, several times giving her attorney the look of love and poking her eye with her finger quite a few times and then checking for moisture. George has shed a tear or two but since his "suicide" beer and pizza party that he threw for himself, I have come to the conclusion he is a good actor. Bad liar but pretty good actor. Contemptable family, they deserve each other.

[Heyes]

Well, you can bet if her therapist disagrees with her or tells her something she doesn't want to hear, the therapist will be history....mo
Ha! I bet the therapist can't get a word in edgewise.

[lizzard]

I don't share lots of PI but I will share this. My granddaughter is 8 and a half months old now. Her mom was just 18 when she was born. I love my son to pieces and I adore my someday daughter in law but I worried a little. I can say though, my granddaughter has a wonderful set of parents. They step up, they love their daughter, they take wonderful care of her and put her first. Yes, the other grandparents and I have helped some but only as an assist, not doing the actual parenting. Neither my son or his girlfriend wanted or expected us to. They work, she goes to school, and their world revolves around raising this baby.
THen I look at Casey and I wonder how in the world she ended up being the person she is. She made her choices but she is the product of her homelife. How do some, like my son and his girlfriend, turn out okay but others like Casey don't? I really think the key is teaching our children responsiblity, respect, and the value of hardwork and Casey never learned any of those :( but Caylee paid the ultimate price.

Marshmallow, your son had a wonderful teacher. He is blessed, as are the new babe and your future DIL. God bless.

[sunstar]

That's the first time I've heard it referred to as the left coast and the right coast! LOL Actually when I checked WFTV earlier today from work to see if there was any new Casey news, it looked like Orlando had severe weather alerts.

Me too! At first I thought she meant Calif. ~ the alternate landing site!! :laugh:

[MissElainyS]

Oh but we do have Fleet Week in Ft. Lauderdale every year!

Saints preserve us. If Casey is ever let out of jail...........RUN NAVY! RUN LIKE THE WIND!

[Heyes]

Yuppers I think LE were referring to the emails Lee erased from July 15th to prior dates.
JMO
I thought it was maybe sending out Dominic Casey to the area Caylee was found. I thought maybe he was involved with that. But you are probably right.

[Dovey]

Good nite all and tomorrow morning is one closer to seeing Casey behind bars forever.

[PROPROS]

DH just got home...Off for dinner...Have a great night all...Always a pleasure posting with you..mo:biggrin:

[IM4Truth]

Me too! At first I thought she meant Calif. ~ the alternate landing site!! :laugh:

:confused: Maybe she was! I don't know if it rained in California or not but it sure rained all over FL the last few days! I think it is supposed to start clearing up a little though. I can't help but wonder if Suburban Drive is flooded? (I have to go for tonight too)

[lizzard]

When I refresh the page,I get the Sprint Ad (at the top of the page) saying "Do you live to text"?...Very appropriate for this thread...mo:rolleyes:

Does Cindy own shares in Sprint? :ohmy:

On second thought, if that was the case, the ad would start with "are you fat, lazy and stupid?"

[sunstar]

:confused: Maybe she was! I don't know if it rained in California or not but it sure rained all over FL the last few days! I think it is supposed to start clearing up a little though. I can't help but wonder if Suburban Drive is flooded? (I have to go for tonight too)

LOL ~ I just checked the weather for there and it looks sunny & hot. :biggrin: I wouldn't be too surprised either if the area Caylee was found is a little flooded right now. Weird weather, for sure!

[lizzard]

Does Cindy own shares in Sprint? :ohmy:

On second thought, if that was the case, the ad would start with "are you fat, lazy and stupid?"
my quote

Forgot to add jmo.

JMO

[ttcRider]

wow did we ever drop down on the Holiday Board, where is everyone? :sad:

Did everyone head over to Fusion for drinks?

[lizzard]

wow did we ever drop down on the Holiday Board, where is everyone? :sad:

Did everyone head over to Fusion for drinks?

Long weekends sure start early down there!!

Wonder if the OC has a :patriot: to wear over her prison issue? Instead of her prison issue?

[djmsmom]

wow did we ever drop down on the Holiday Board, where is everyone? :sad:

Did everyone head over to Fusion for drinks?

looks like everyone left. may I'll turn in for the night. nite all....

[ttcRider]

Long weekends sure start early down there!!

Wonder if the OC has a :patriot: to wear over her prison issue? Instead of her prison issue?

They last longer too! :mellow:

[ttcRider]

looks like everyone left. may I'll turn in for the night. nite all....

:seeya: sweet dreams djmsmom

[tinkerbell]

Anyone still around?

[lizzard]

looks like everyone left. may I'll turn in for the night. nite all....

nite, sleep well :seeya:

[seeing_eye]

I don't share lots of PI but I will share this. My granddaughter is 8 and a half months old now. Her mom was just 18 when she was born. I love my son to pieces and I adore my someday daughter in law but I worried a little. I can say though, my granddaughter has a wonderful set of parents. They step up, they love their daughter, they take wonderful care of her and put her first. Yes, the other grandparents and I have helped some but only as an assist, not doing the actual parenting. Neither my son or his girlfriend wanted or expected us to. They work, she goes to school, and their world revolves around raising this baby.
THen I look at Casey and I wonder how in the world she ended up being the person she is. She made her choices but she is the product of her homelife. How do some, like my son and his girlfriend, turn out okay but others like Casey don't? I really think the key is teaching our children responsiblity, respect, and the value of hardwork and Casey never learned any of those :( but Caylee paid the ultimate price.

I don't share lots of PI, but I've often pondered the situation of kids growing up in a dysfunctional family. I think I was lucky. My family was dysfunctional, but I think I picked up on the good parts of both parents. My father had honesty, integrity, and ethics and a very hard worker. But he many times stopped at a bar on payday and never made it home with any money. On the other hand my mother would fore go honesty, integrity and ethics if money was involved. But she was the one that saved money and made sure our bills were paid before shopping for other things. So I think I was taught values and character by my father and responsibility by my mother. So I think I got the best from both my parents, and hopefully little or none of the worst in them. And I'm still not sure if this is due to nature or nurture.

[DoubleFelix]

Anyone still around?

I am. I'm pretty quiet but still here :smile:

[lizzard]

I just finished watching NG...Pardon me but what relation is "Amy" to Casey??

Just friends, I believe.

[ttcRider]

Cindy and Amy went to Jesse's apartment to get KA and I know that KA stole checks and money from both of them but what relation is KC to Amy...Is it just a girlfriend?
I jus finished watching NG and boy was that interesting.

It was good to see the old interviews now that we know what we know... :sad:

[ttcRider]

I came in the last few months only and I have been reading and grabbing every link. This was an eye opener for me and I do have a few questions since I have not followed every detail.
I pretty much know the entirety but some of the names and ex boyfriends have me confused.
I do clearly know Jesse. I feel bad for that one.
I don't like her LA. I don't trust him. He's on the cynical side if you ask me.:thumbdown:

I have been following this since the beginning and I still get confused with who is who! haha There are more twists and turns in this case, its mind boggling. One piece of advice for you - everyone is lying. :biggrin: Thats where it get really interesting, what to believe.

[Dells]

Remember Lee laughing about the smell of the car, which was Caylee decomposing, he laughed and laughed.

And the casual way he laughs when he is talking about Caylee when he is being taped in TonE's car, laughing about her being missing, so casual about everything, talking about Jesse and lots of motive he would have had.

Sick!

Then fast forward to the Memorial and his words and kisses for CMA CMA.

Sick!

I just don't buy it and neither will the jury.

Bolding mine....

Why in the world is Casey's family trying to pin this on Jesse and trying to claim he had motive to murder Caylee?!?! Notice how they always hint at it, but they never tell you what that motive actually is? By the time Caylee was murdered, Jesse was just a peripheral person in Casey's life, what do they think his motive was? That he loved Casey so much he just wanted her back, soooo he goes ahead and murders her daughter? Riiight, that's a great way to win someone back. If they are trying to claim that he murdered Caylee to get back at Casey, then that doesn't work either. Casey ended their engagement a long time ago and if they think Jesse's motive would be to get back at Casey, then he was several years too late. If Jesse would have wanted to get back at Casey by murdering her daughter, he would have done it right after or soon after Casey broke up w/him, not 2 years later. This is how I feel about The Anthony's trying to blame this on Jesse -----> :thumbdown:

I swear, The Anthony's trying to blame Caylee's murder on Casey's innocent ex friends and associates is just infuriating to me. Many of them were new friends to Casey and had the thinnest of threads to Caylee, why would they want to murder her? Of course, according to The Anthony's, their lying, money stealing, party girl, irresponsible, etc. daughter could NEVER be responsible for what happened to Caylee.:sneaky: She's the one that was supposed to be responsible for Caylee and she can't even provide a reasonable or believable explanation as to how Caylee got out of her possession, site, and care. Casey is the only one w/means, opportunity, and motive. The only one. I hope she pays dearly for what she did to Caylee.

[lizzard]

I have been following this since the beginning and I still get confused with who is who! haha There are more twists and turns in this case, its mind boggling. One piece of advice for you - everyone is lying. :biggrin: Thats where it get really interesting, what to believe.
my bold

'cepting for us bloggers, we're just fat and lazy. :tonguewag: Therefore, Dianna, any questions, just throw them out here, we'll do our best. The A-team seems to be AWOL, so for right now you're stuck with us (mostly) Canucks.

[msgatorslayer]

Bolding mine....
She's the one that was supposed to be responsible for Caylee and she can't even provide a reasonable or believable explanation as to how Caylee got out of her possession, site, and care. Casey is the only one w/means, opportunity, and motive. The only one. I hope she pays dearly for what she did to Caylee.

SNIPPED

:thumbsup: Right on!

[ttcRider]

No but I was a groupie once. Does that count? Am I in?:laugh:

That works! :thumbsup:

[imc_e]

Bolding mine....

Why in the world is Casey's family trying to pin this on Jesse and trying to claim he had motive to murder Caylee?!?! Notice how they always hint at it, but they never tell you what that motive actually is? By the time Caylee was murdered, Jesse was just a peripheral person in Casey's life, what do they think his motive was? That he loved Casey so much he just wanted her back, soooo he goes ahead and murders her daughter? Riiight, that's a great way to win someone back. If they are trying to claim that he murdered Caylee to get back at Casey, then that doesn't work either. Casey ended their engagement a long time ago and if they think Jesse's motive would be to get back at Casey, then he was several years too late. If Jesse would have wanted to get back at Casey by murdering her daughter, he would have done it right after or soon after Casey broke up w/him, not 2 years later. This is how I feel about The Anthony's trying to blame this on Jesse -----> :thumbdown:

I swear, The Anthony's trying to blame Caylee's murder on Casey's innocent ex friends and associates is just infuriating to me. Many of them were new friends to Casey and had the thinnest of threads to Caylee, why would they want to murder her? Of course, according to The Anthony's, their lying, money stealing, party girl, irresponsible, etc. daughter could NEVER be responsible for what happened to Caylee.:sneaky: She's the one that was supposed to be responsible for Caylee and she can't even provide a reasonable or believable explanation as to how Caylee got out of her possession, site, and care. Casey is the only one w/means, opportunity, and motive. The only one. I hope she pays dearly for what she did to Caylee.

Oh I know Dells, its outrageous and the jury will feel the same way.

All of the Anthonys know exactly what happened to Caylee, when and WHO did it.

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

:confused: Maybe she was! I don't know if it rained in California or not but it sure rained all over FL the last few days! I think it is supposed to start clearing up a little though. I can't help but wonder if Suburban Drive is flooded? (I have to go for tonight too)

Heheheh, yes, I was talking about Florida. Since we have 2 coasts I refer to them as left and right. Sorry for the confusion.

A poster who lives in Orlando was gonna take a look-see over at Suburban when she has a chance. I'm willing to bet a coffee that it is flooded. There has been so much rain. Earlier today, all of Orange county was colored in, well, orange, on doppler. Meaning really heavy rain.

[ttcRider]

Okay lizzard, let me drop my large pizza and triple chocolate milk shake. I have a question for you. LOL
If Caylee was screaming and crying after they left and Casey was most likely freaking out and wanted Caylee to just stay quiet that would explain the duct tape and sticker across her mouth. What I can't put together is how Caylee ended up where she did months later.:confused:

Another question. What happened to the Anthony's relationship with Padilla and why do they hate each other. What came down.

Since Lizzard is slow on the draw here... this is my take:
I believe Casey killed Caylee the night of Father's Day. Cindy and her got into a fight (you pick the level of violence) and Casey grabbed Caylee and left. I think Caylee wouldnt stop crying so Casey put the duct tape over her mouth to shut her up.. Then something horrible happened (havent figured out what yet) and she put her in the trunk of the car. The next day she went back to the house after George left and put Caylee somewhere in the back yard. Then returned a day or so later put her in the bags and laundry bag and back into her trunk. Then drove around a few days to figure out what to do next. She then decided on the spot in the woods...
As far as LP goes, you love him or you hate him. Cindy doesnt like too many people these days.
Wanna poke some holes in this?? :smile:

[msgatorslayer]

Okay lizzard, let me drop my large pizza and triple chocolate milk shake. I have a question for you. LOL
If Caylee was screaming and crying after they left and Casey was most likely freaking out and wanted Caylee to just stay quiet that would explain the duct tape and sticker across her mouth. What I can't put together is how Caylee ended up where she did months later.:confused:

Another question. What happened to the Anthony's relationship with Padilla and why do they hate each other. What came down.

The spot where Caylee was found is a low lying area which was flooded for many, many months last year. Normal summer rains were compounded by Tropical Storm Fay which crept along Orange County in the middle of August. Dumping an additional, IIRC, 15 inches of rain.

Tim and TES had to back outta the area because they lost an ATV in the flooded waters.

Caylee was there all along, IMO. IIRC, after her body was found in December, a man interviewed by the media who lives across the way from the woods said that the flood water had only receeded about 2 weeks earlier.

[lizzard]

That works! :thumbsup:

You may think you deleted that post in time, subway girl, but I SAW IT!! Consider yourself Lee'd.:tonguewag:

[ttcRider]

You may think you deleted that post in time, subway girl, but I SAW IT!! Consider yourself Lee'd.:tonguewag:

DOH! :wub:

[ttcRider]

That's just about how I decided it happened. I'm thinking she placed the duct tape across her mouth and it went over her nose and Casey had her in the back seat thinking she had her shut up but Caylee couldn't breath through the duct tape. Casey may have thought Caylee went to sleep and she then discovered she suffocated and she was dead. Dunno but I don't know where the chloroform came into the picture.:huh:

Yah I havent been too keen on the 'cloroform' piece of the puzzle. Like Jesse said on NG tonight, she wasn't no scientist. LOL

[lizzard]

Okay lizzard, let me drop my large pizza and triple chocolate milk shake. I have a question for you. LOL
If Caylee was screaming and crying after they left and Casey was most likely freaking out and wanted Caylee to just stay quiet that would explain the duct tape and sticker across her mouth. What I can't put together is how Caylee ended up where she did months later.:confused:

Another question. What happened to the Anthony's relationship with Padilla and why do they hate each other. What came down.

Easy question first. Padilla posted Casey's original bail, then revoked it when she wasn't forthcoming with info. IMO

http://a.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=5677592&pid=3029945

Speculation is really all we have, so I will specu.

After the OC killed Caylee (I hate typing that), she panicked, tried to call GA and CA, couldn't get them. I believe there was going to be an accident story here. She then put Casey in the back yard (cadaver dog hits) for a bit, then placed her in the trunk. After a few days of driving around, she had to dispose of her, and dumped her in familiar territory. Really brief recap, and JMO

[lizzard]

Easy question first. Padilla posted Casey's original bail, then revoked it when she wasn't forthcoming with info. IMO

http://a.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=5677592&pid=3029945

Speculation is really all we have, so I will specu.

After the OC killed Caylee (I hate typing that), she panicked, tried to call GA and CA, couldn't get them. I believe there was going to be an accident story here. She then put Casey in the back yard (cadaver dog hits) for a bit, then placed her in the trunk. After a few days of driving around, she had to dispose of her, and dumped her in familiar territory. Really brief recap, and JMO

ETA You may now go back to your shake and pizza. I'm trying to quit smoking, please PM me chocolate. Thank you:tongueside:

[lizzard]

Cindy was raging when she called the police and she was telling the truth for a change when she said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it. I think that's about the only time Cindy has told the truth. The woman is fowl, low class and violent. No wonder George seems to be afraid of her. She has probably knocked him around a few times. No wonder he allegedly decided to kill himself by way of a pizza, 6 pack of beer and a suicide note.:tonguewag:
JMO

Now, now. Cindy wrote notes too. Mustn't forget Cindy.

[lizzard]

What a coinky dinky, I want to quit. Aint happening like I thought.:biggrinjester:

Still checking my PM box for chocolate!:angry:

[ttcRider]

What a coinky dinky, I want to quit. Aint happening like I thought.:biggrinjester:

Now this is weird - I just finished eating a chocolate bar and am about to light up a smoke.... :w00t:

[ttcRider]

Still checking my PM box for chocolate!:angry:

tic tac? :smile:

[DebinNv]

I always have thought that --in my own mind trying to figure Casey out-- that she placed the sticker there after Caylee's death as some sort of sick momento on her part.
I don't know just speculating.

[lizzard]

Now this is weird - I just finished eating a chocolate bar and am about to light up a smoke.... :w00t:

Just so you know ~ no-one likes you.

[ttcRider]

Just so you know ~ no-one likes you.

I think your new dress is too tight! :tonguewag:

[lizzard]

My smoke/chocolate-free self and I are going to bed. (You think my dress is too tight now?? Just wait)
Sweet dreams, all. :wub:

[ttcRider]

My smoke/chocolate-free self and I are going to bed.
Sweet dreams, all. :wub:

Sweet dreams liz :wub: :wink:

[Amy]

Thanks, I thought so but I found it odd that she would be with Cindy when they went over there. Suppose at that point they had something in common since KA was stealing from the both of them.
This case is pretty twisted from just what I watched tonight. Geesh...:rolleyes:

I think she was w/Cindy because Cindy needed her to show her (Cindy) where TonE's apartment was--easier than trying to follow directions given over the phone.

[adair]

I don't remember but he beat Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gasey, B.T. Killer. 22 is the worst. I'm gonna look that guy up.


Joseph Duncan was the monster who murdered 2 adults, kidnapped the children kept them hostage, doing things we cannot imagine to them, he killed the boy, i think this was on video tape...at a later time he took the girl to a Denny? and a the wait staff recognized her and called LE. JD is a horrible story.....I dont know if there is still a true crime library but that is where i learned about him. Death is too kind to for that man........honey and fire ants is one suggestion. jmo moo....

[adair]

Anyone still up?

I just got home from work and grocery shopping......anything happen today? What with the traffic ticket stuff?

Thank You in advance...............

[aproudmom]

I really believe that the forensics will speak for Caylee. How old was Casey when she got pregnant?

don't ask CA she is not to good in math I noticed on LKL..Caylee would be 4 this year but thanks to Monster mom she never even made it to 3:cursing:

[aproudmom]

Joseph Duncan was the monster who murdered 2 adults, kidnapped the children kept them hostage, doing things we cannot imagine to them, he killed the boy, i think this was on video tape...at a later time he took the girl to a Denny? and a the wait staff recognized her and called LE. JD is a horrible story.....I dont know if there is still a true crime library but that is where i learned about him. Death is too kind to for that man........honey and fire ants is one suggestion. jmo moo....

he actually killed 2 adults and the oldest child then left with the 2 youngest and later killed the little boy and Shasta was spotted thank god and they just charged him with another murder of a child unrelated to this case..he needs to fry IMO..

[aproudmom]

Cindy and Amy went to Jesse's apartment to get KA and I know that KA stole checks and money from both of them but what relation is KC to Amy...Is it just a girlfriend?
I jus finished watching NG and boy was that interesting.

she took her to TonE's apartment after she found Amy's number in the car IIRC she had never even met CA until that night so she called her and she was at the mall or somewhere and CA ask her to show her were TonE lived so she took her there that night..and we all know what happened from that point..

[aproudmom]

Bolding mine....

Why in the world is Casey's family trying to pin this on Jesse and trying to claim he had motive to murder Caylee?!?! Notice how they always hint at it, but they never tell you what that motive actually is? By the time Caylee was murdered, Jesse was just a peripheral person in Casey's life, what do they think his motive was? That he loved Casey so much he just wanted her back, so he goes ahead and murders her daughter? Right, that's a great way to win someone back. If they are trying to claim that he murdered Caylee to get back at Casey, then that doesn't work either. Casey ended their engagement a long time ago and if they think Jesse's motive would be to get back at Casey, then he was several years too late. If Jesse would have wanted to get back at Casey by murdering her daughter, he would have done it right after or soon after Casey broke up w/him, not 2 years later. This is how I feel about The Anthony's trying to blame this on Jesse -----> :thumbdown:

I swear, The Anthony's trying to blame Caylee's murder on Casey's innocent ex friends and associates is just infuriating to me. Many of them were new friends to Casey and had the thinnest of threads to Caylee, why would they want to murder her? Of course, according to The Anthony's, their lying, money stealing, party girl, irresponsible, etc. daughter could NEVER be responsible for what happened to Caylee.:sneaky: She's the one that was supposed to be responsible for Caylee and she can't even provide a reasonable or believable explanation as to how Caylee got out of her possession, site, and care. Casey is the only one w/means, opportunity, and motive. The only one. I hope she pays dearly for what she did to Caylee.

I have said over and over everyone of them should be sued by him they all tried to lay it on him CA GA and LA and she was talking to him but she gets busted and tells her parents I don't trust him after CA told her that his family was At their house and was being very supportive and then boom KC put it out there she did not trust him she had a feeling so they all ran with it and have threw him way under the bus..I say he needs to file a civil suit I hate knowing these people are making money off of Caylee they have ruined so many others life's...even the cop who just slept with her he lied I get it but my gosh would anyone want to say they had anything to do with her so he lied about something that was not even going on when this happened and he no longer has his career as a police officer..for what sleeping with the Facebook Sleez I am sure he was not trying to hide anything heck he saw what was happening with this case he just made a horrible mistake and did not fess up the first time he was ask if he knew her...jmo

[Amy]

Morning proudmom...Are you still with us.(me) Looks like everyone's gone and sleeping. I just got up.
I thought it was Jesse's apartment. It was TonE and Jesse their with Casey, right? I'm trying to connect a few dots since I have been reading every nook and cranny and clarifying things in my mind.:crying:

She was @ TonE's apartment, and whomever his roommate was @ the time. I don't think Jesse, tho.

[aproudmom]

Morning proudmom...Are you still with us.(me) Looks like everyone's gone and sleeping. I just got up.
I thought it was Jesse's apartment. It was TonE and Jesse their with Casey, right? I'm trying to connect a few dots since I have been reading every nook and cranny and clarifying things in my mind.:crying:

I am still here can't sleep my lil sister is getting married in a few hours so have not even had time to sleep but worth it..

no it was TonE's apartment not JG.. TonE only met JG at a pool party when she wanted to introduce him to her new man..kinda odd IMO like let me throw my new man in your face so him and TonE did not know each other just met the one night at the pool party but the night CA went there to get her TonE and his roommate were playing video games...

[aproudmom]

Thanx Amy, I'm finally connecting and there is so many of Casey's acquaintances involved or who were around when all this came down. What makes me frustrated is not one of them can sit down and share anything of real value.:glare:
JMO

It is hard to keep up with all of them isn't it..I have always wondered why these friends did not question more about the baby but then again seems she changed friends so maybe they were not real close to caylee I know my best friends I would always say you better have the kids with you I miss them but I am older and had a child at 18 and lost a lot of friends who did not want to hang out with a single mom who was not going to drink or smoke pot or even be around it never even went out on my big 21 B-day..I put my child first even before he was born almost 19yrs ago..

[Kokopelli]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

Trezz,
Thanks so much for posting. I hope this response makes the rounds all over the net. Gosh, what a scary thing to wake up to. I believe this families' IDs are completely out of whack. The denial here is roughly constipating. :scared:
And your letter to her was right on! And beautifully written.

[aproudmom]

Thanx proudmom...Tell your sister congratulations and have a wonderful life with her new husband. I bet you're excited for her.
Isn't this ironic that the sister of the bride can't sleep.:thumbsup:

thanks a bunch..I am so happy and yeah she is sleeping away and here I am awake..lol..they will be very happy and he is in the service so it is a Military Wedding gotta love them men in uniforms:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

WOW thanks for sharing OK for the first time in my 36 yrs I am speechless

[aproudmom]

Trezz,
Thanks so much for posting. I hope this response makes the rounds all over the net. Gosh, what a scary thing to wake up to. I believe this families' IDs are completely out of whack. The denial here is roughly constipating. :scared:
And your letter to her was right on! And beautifully written.

:ohmy:that is all I can say...you know why does she even bother emailing back..I sure wish the media and LE saw just how horrible she is this is the real CA not the one on LKL all calm and cool and sweet.. she is a witch and now she is bringing Jesus and KC in the same sentence as a christian I am sickened

[aproudmom]

I sure do. Those military weddings are awesome!:thumbsup:

I ask her if I could bring my laptop so I did not go through withdrawals and she said no:wink: darn her what will I do since I am a sad overweight lazy blogger with no life as CA seems to think of all of us who care about her Grandchild she seems to have plenty of time to email everyone back just wonder how much time she spends reading what everyone thinks of her wonderful family..if your reading this CINDY this one is for you:tonguewag:

[Kokopelli]

:ohmy:that is all I can say...you know why does she even bother emailing back..I sure wish the media and LE saw just how horrible she is this is the real CA not the one on LKL all calm and cool and sweet.. she is a witch and now she is bringing Jesus and KC in the same sentence as a christian I am sickened
I know Mom. This response was totally over the top. It is so weird how unstable people go back to the powers of religion. I use to do volunteer work at a psych hospital. So many of the ones that were mentally gone would always do weird and violent things at the same time saying Jesus told them too............I believe this family would fit in nicely at an Insane Asylum now. :w00t: I doubt if her Christian Jesus would consider all the millions of lies and slutty actions from this family the Way to the Light! I just hope and pray to the same Jesus she professes to follow that people will stop sending them money to perpetuate such lunacy.

[Amy]

I ask her if I could bring my laptop so I did not go through withdrawals and she said no:wink: darn her what will I do since I am a sad overweight lazy blogger with no life as CA seems to think of all of us who care about her Grandchild she seems to have plenty of time to email everyone back just wonder how much time she spends reading what everyone thinks of her wonderful family..if your reading this CINDY this one is for you:tonguewag:

Too bad there isn't a Lee finger icon. :w00t:

[aproudmom]

I know Mom. This response was totally over the top. It is so weird how unstable people go back to the powers of religion. I use to do volunteer work at a psych hospital. So many of the ones that were mentally gone would always do weird and violent things at the same time saying Jesus told them too............I believe this family would fit in nicely at an Insane Asylum now. :w00t: I doubt if her Christian Jesus would consider all the millions of lies and slutty actions from this family the Way to the Light! I just hope and pray to the same Jesus she professes to follow that people will stop sending them money to perpetuate such lunacy.

I am in shock I have read her emails to others but this one is over the top when I say I am speechless I do mean that and if any of you knew me in person you would know I am never speechless

[Amy]

Okay, I clearly seen Cindy flip her finger off to the media and whoever she wanted it to pertain to. Then I began reading it was the Lee finger icon.
Will someone refresh my memory bank.:unsure:

The finger family. The only ones I remember for sure is that Lee was the middle finger, and Caylee the pinky. I can't remember why George designated Lee as the middle one, except he is the tallest. I think Casey was the index finger, cuz George told her she was in charge of the situation, she called the shots on what she wanted the family to do. That pretty much leaves Cindy as the ring finger, and George as the thumb. That was in one of their jailhouse visit tapes, can't remember which one, tho.

[aproudmom]

Okay, I clearly seen Cindy flip her finger off to the media and whoever she wanted it to pertain to. Then I began reading it was the Lee finger icon.
Will someone refresh my memory bank.:unsure:

:thumbsup: sorry have no idea what the lee finger means have seen it mentioned on here..but had to laugh I was so shocked to see her do that the other day..

[~jomomma~]

Too bad there isn't a Lee finger icon. :w00t:

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif


:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

The finger family. The only ones I remember for sure is that Lee was the middle finger, and Caylee the pinky. I can't remember why George designated Lee as the middle one, except he is the tallest. I think Casey was the index finger, cuz George told her she was in charge of the situation, she called the shots on what she wanted the family to do. That pretty much leaves Cindy as the ring finger, and George as the thumb. That was in one of their jailhouse visit tapes, can't remember which one, tho.

omg OK got it thank you so much I have ask over and over what people were talking about...yeah lee is the middle finger caylee was the pinkie I fell out of my chair when I heard that visit almost makes me want to run and search for that video so I can get another laugh..like they don't give me enough laughs anyway..:laugh:

[aproudmom]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif


:biggrin:

omg jo had not seen that:thumbsup:

[Amy]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif


:biggrin:

Thanks!!! It's probably a good thing that I'm not so computer literate for me to use that on occasion in posts....I'm pretty sure that would be a bannable act!!!!

[aproudmom]

omg was searching for the finger family and seen this...:laugh::lol: my son just came in and said I was losing it laughing at the computer..he just may be right...


They are probably going through their list of excuses to get out of court. they are on #4 now.

1. Distraut over missing granddaughter
2. Mourning death of granddaughter
3. Fake attempt at suicide
4. Throw Brad on floor to hurt back
5. Flying to NY to do Maury Povich "Who was my Daddy" Show
6. Taking the Creep Aboard boat out to practice looking for lost kids, but first need fishing license.
7. Ran out of green tops and need to go shopping
8. Waiting for next doc dump to get info so he can look like an azz on the thing when I go rabid.
9. Got another stink in the car and can't drive it - hey where's George?
10. Wake up call at the Ritz didn't go through and I overslept due to feast on wine and crab puffs last night

[aproudmom]

Thanks!!! It's probably a good thing that I'm not so computer literate for me to use that on occasion in posts....I'm pretty sure that would be a bannable act!!!!

yeah agree Amy I think we would be in band camp if we used that one..but it was a good laugh:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Found it..

At one point during the July visit, when Casey Anthony, 22, was initially jailed on child-neglect charges in the disappearance of Caylee, Casey Anthony's father, George Anthony, talked to her about their family.

"You know I just had an analogy of our family.Think of me as the thumb. Think of dad. The next finger, the index finger, think of your mom. She likes to point, just like Caylee," George Anthony said.

"Yeah, but it's that middle finger," interrupted Casey Anthony while laughing.

"The middle finger, I guess is a problem," joked George Anthony. "I'm looking at size in the family. The next finger after that is going to be Lee, then you, and that little pinky is Caylee. So think of your hand like this is us. This is the family that loves each other, that cares and needs to be together, and we're missing two fingers.":ohmy:

OMG they can start up a foundation for missing FINGERS now...::wink:

[desmom]

Cindy was raging when she called the police and she was telling the truth for a change when she said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it. I think that's about the only time Cindy has told the truth. The woman is fowl, low class and violent. No wonder George seems to be afraid of her. She has probably knocked him around a few times. No wonder he allegedly decided to kill himself by way of a pizza, 6 pack of beer and a suicide note.:tonguewag:
JMO


I think Cindy was also being truthful when she made that panicked 911 call. Sometime after that call and Lee returned with Casey's things from Tone's apt at 2:30 a.m., Cindy and family went into cover up mode because...

Lee and Cindy made a point of telling LE on separate occasions an officer told them they could go through her things, the officer did grab some type of ID, the officer left the room, blah, blah, blah.

Lee and Cindy also pointed out how LE was never interested in the receipts they found in Casey's belongings, so they gave them to JB.

Tone and roommate said Casey was on the laptop when Cindy and Amy came to the door. Lee told LE the laptop had a blue screen when he picked up Casey's stuff. It took Lee over 2 hours to go to Tone's and return even though he said all of Casey's things were packed up neatly.

George told LE on July 17 they had already searched the backyard, sheds and even moved Caylee's playhouse.

Cindy made several statements to the media attempting to discredit OCSO. i.e. the car sitting in front of the house for days before LE impounded it, the clothes Cindy washed from Casey's car sat on her bed for days and days because LE never wanted them...

For the family to jump to cover up mode within a few short hours of Caylee being reported missing and the family searching the backyard makes me think the family knew what Casey was capable of doing. I think Casey has a history of being abusive toward CAylee.

Be kind, I am still working on the lst cup of coffee. jmo

[aproudmom]

:laugh: Too darn funny, proudmom...
JMO

I feel so stupid I am still laughing..my kids think I need to turn myself in to the 6th floor of the hospital..lol..so if I go missing that is where I am no need to call out the Anthony's and KFN and the fishing boat

[aproudmom]

I think Cindy was also being truthful when she made that panicked 911 call. Sometime after that call and Lee returned with Casey's things from Tone's apt at 2:30 a.m., Cindy and family went into cover up mode because...

Lee and Cindy made a point of telling LE on separate occasions an officer told them they could go through her things, the officer did grab some type of ID, the officer left the room, blah, blah, blah.

Lee and Cindy also pointed out how LE was never interested in the receipts they found in Casey's belongings, so they gave them to JB.

Tone and roommate said Casey was on the laptop when Cindy and Amy came to the door. Lee told LE the laptop had a blue screen when he picked up Casey's stuff. It took Lee over 2 hours to go to Tone's and return even though he said all of Casey's things were packed up neatly.

George told LE on July 17 they had already searched the backyard, sheds and even moved Caylee's playhouse.

Cindy made several statements to the media attempting to discredit OCSO. i.e. the car sitting in front of the house for days before LE impounded it, the clothes Cindy washed from Casey's car sat on her bed for days and days because LE never wanted them...

For the family to jump to cover up mode within a few short hours of Caylee being reported missing and the family searching the backyard makes me think the family knew what Casey was capable of doing. I think Casey has a history of being abusive toward CAylee.

Be kind, I am still working on the lst cup of coffee. jmo

wow des you think real good in the morning..you pretty much just said everything I agree they went in to save Casey at that point..and don't forget it took her how many months to say the blanket was missing..I think that would be the day they left the site of the remains and went straight to the house....:sneaky:

[aproudmom]

Cindy was raging when she called the police and she was telling the truth for a change when she said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it. I think that's about the only time Cindy has told the truth. The woman is fowl, low class and violent. No wonder George seems to be afraid of her. She has probably knocked him around a few times. No wonder he allegedly decided to kill himself by way of a pizza, 6 pack of beer and a suicide note.:tonguewag:
JMO

I agree this was her one and only truthful thing in this whole case LA seemed to think he could get it out of Casey if he had been able to talk to her longer I am not so sure it would have been the truth if she even would tell him...

also if you have listened to her first call before she found KC she never said my daughter KC has stolen my car she says I want to report a theft of my car or something like that..so she wanted to land KC in jail with just that call but then she calls back and says I found my daughter then we all know what number 3 was..both her and GA knew just what that smell was I have no doubt and they really think they can fool people with the whole pizza thing..PLEASE..

[desmom]

wow des you think real good in the morning..you pretty much just said everything I agree they went in to save Casey at that point..and don't forget it took her how many months to say the blanket was missing..I think that would be the day they left the site of the remains and went straight to the house....:sneaky:

Sometimes I get lucky and the ole brain kicks in. :tonguewag:

If George, Cindy & Lee knew what Casey was capable of why did they allow her to leave with Caylee?

jmo

[desmom]

I don't share lots of PI but I will share this. My granddaughter is 8 and a half months old now. Her mom was just 18 when she was born. I love my son to pieces and I adore my someday daughter in law but I worried a little. I can say though, my granddaughter has a wonderful set of parents. They step up, they love their daughter, they take wonderful care of her and put her first. Yes, the other grandparents and I have helped some but only as an assist, not doing the actual parenting. Neither my son or his girlfriend wanted or expected us to. They work, she goes to school, and their world revolves around raising this baby.
THen I look at Casey and I wonder how in the world she ended up being the person she is. She made her choices but she is the product of her homelife. How do some, like my son and his girlfriend, turn out okay but others like Casey don't? I really think the key is teaching our children responsiblity, respect, and the value of hardwork and Casey never learned any of those :( but Caylee paid the ultimate price.

Bless your son and future daughter in law for being such great hard working parents.

I think the difference is you have assisted the parents and not controlled them. Cindy is a control freak. I am sure instead of letting Casey learn the ins and outs of motherhood, Cindy criticized Casey for her mistakes and took over. (did I just defend Casey?)

All new mothers, especially first time mothers, make mistakes. i.e. if you eat spicy foods while nursing, the baby is not going to be happy; never ever change a new born without a changing pad (or something to cover up certain areas if the baby is a boy) unless you want loads of laundry. The list is unending, but eventually you figure it out by trial and error.

jmo

[aproudmom]

Sometimes I get lucky and the ole brain kicks in. :tonguewag:

If George, Cindy & Lee knew what Casey was capable of why did they allow her to leave with Caylee?

jmo

I don't think they could stop her she was 22 she could have moved and never went back if she wanted to..my question is why did they not fight for caylee it has been stated by alot of people they did not agree with how she mothered caylee..

[aproudmom]

Cindy was Caylee's mother, she was over 18 and there would have been another big fight if Cindy would have refused to allow Casey to take Caylee anywhere. Nothing but animosity and arguments in that house.
If I was a mother and really thought my daughter was unstable I would have done anything to make right long enough to keep my grandchild out of damger.
JMO

me to I would go hide if I thought my child or grandchild was in danger I am not so sure they thought she would kill caylee they just knew she was not a good mother they also failed caylee imo and CA could have reported that car stolen much earlier if she really wanted her to come home..I really think they had no idea just what she was capable of at that point..I could be wrong would not be the first time..

[desmom]

Cindy was Caylee's mother, she was over 18 and there would have been another big fight if Cindy would have refused to allow Casey to take Caylee anywhere. Nothing but animosity and arguments in that house.
If I was a mother and really thought my daughter was unstable I would have done anything to make right long enough to keep my grandchild out of damger.
JMO

You and me both!

So why didn't the A's get guardianship over Caylee a long time ago? I know, the A's are all about appearances and what would the neighbors think attitude, but Caylee needed protection! :cursing:

[bchand]

After reading Post #227 from new poster Trezz, I am thinking someone should compile a book of Cindy's responses to emails.

She compares Casey to Jesus now? The facts are not supporting that her Mother did it?

Cindy never could grasp "the facts." Why would she start now?

OT - Happy Birthday to SpiritWolf !!!! Have a great day.

:seeya:

[aproudmom]

They also said they never for a minute thought Casey was capable of literally hurting Caylee. Then one day it's too late.:crying:
JMO

I know :crying:
I will never understand why if she did not want caylee then why would she not just give her to her parents or tell them she was putting her up for adoption..I think she did this for many reasons one to take Caylee from her parents who gave her more time than they did her..I really feel they are blaming themselves and they should they failed that child by allowing Casey to act out like this for years and I get it when they say a theft is not a murder but something horrible happened she is not in for theft she is in for the murder of her child..so they need to stop and just say we are sorry but this is our daughter we failed her and our granddaughter we pushed her into being a perfect mommy bla bla and so on..even though every time they get on camera I see how KC ended up like she is...she learned from the best

[aproudmom]

You and me both!

So why didn't the A's get guardianship over Caylee a long time ago? I know, the A's are all about appearances and what would the neighbors think attitude, but Caylee needed protection! :cursing:

IMO They did not do it because it would not look good for their perfect image of the cleaver home..CA family emailed back and forth about how they were in denial of what was going on with KC and even GA

OK I am outta here for the day got to get ready for my Lil sisters wedding..have a great day everyone:seeya::patriot:

[AMS]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Snipped for space


Good morning - Cindy's response is just so wrong in many ways.

Demanding justice for Caylee means leaving her family alone. You have got to be kidding me. Why? So their secrets and involvement in the case do not become public? Once again, it is not about Cayle, it is about the Ant family.

The facts are not supporting that her mother did it. Ridiculous statement. Delusional.

Jesus was crucified unjustly. Wow. I will refrain from commenting on this.


imo

[AMS]

After reading Post #227 from new poster Trezz, I am thinking someone should compile a book of Cindy's responses to emails.

She compares Casey to Jesus now? The facts are not supporting that her Mother did it?

Cindy never could grasp "the facts." Why would she start now?

OT - Happy Birthday to SpiritWolf !!!! Have a great day.

:seeya:


Good morning - great idea to compile the Cindy responses. Maybe on Tuesday when the board opens up again we could start a thread to post Cindy responses.

O/T Happy Birthday SpiritWolf!!!

imo

[desmom]

They also said they never for a minute thought Casey was capable of literally hurting Caylee. Then one day it's too late.:crying:
JMO

Cindy said Casey's friends all told her Casey was a great mother and Cindy thinks she qualifies for the Mother of the Year Award. :rolleyes:

Re: Casey's friends + great mother... How much did they see of Caylee? A couple of hours when Casey would bring her to their apartments or parties? It could have been a horse and pony show for Casey's friends.

jmo

Happy Birthday to SpiritWolf!

[msgatorslayer]

I know :crying:
I will never understand why if she did not want caylee then why would she not just give her to her parents or tell them she was putting her up for adoption..I think she did this for many reasons one to take Caylee from her parents who gave her more time than they did her..I really feel they are blaming themselves and they should they failed that child by allowing Casey to act out like this for years and I get it when they say a theft is not a murder but something horrible happened she is not in for theft she is in for the murder of her child..so they need to stop and just say we are sorry but this is our daughter we failed her and our granddaughter we pushed her into being a perfect mommy bla bla and so on..even though every time they get on camera I see how KC ended up like she is...she learned from the best

G'morning, all.

Caylee was Casey's bargaining chip. I think around the time Casey was researching 'neck breaking', 'missing children', etc all, that there was another big blow up of a fight that we'll never hear about. Something happened which pushed Casey's buttons to where she wanted to get rid of Caylee and possibly her parents. But things calmed down within the family and that was that.

Until... Father's day, another war at the Anthony home. Stronger words were used. Cindy choked Casey, alledgedly. Caylee was loosing her power as a tool for Casey to get what she wanted. Cindy was fed up with Casey. She wanted her out of the house. She either kicked Casey out or Casey got into a rage and vowed to never see her parents again. Cindy threatened to take Caylee away.

Casey had no money, no job, no house, nothing to take care of Caylee. With no place to go. None of her friends needed or wanted a child around. Casey was in a bad situation. Juggling being pizzed at her Mom, probably angry with Caylee who wanted Grama, and having nobody to turn to. And lets not forget, in her words, she's a 'spiteful b#$ch'.

By morning, Cindy was in agony wishing she could take it all back. But it was to late. The girls were gone. One, forever.

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy said Casey's friends all told her Casey was a great mother and Cindy thinks she qualifies for the Mother of the Year Award. :rolleyes:

Re: Casey's friends + great mother... How much did they see of Caylee? A couple of hours when Casey would bring her to their apartments or parties? It could have been a horse and pony show for Casey's friends.

jmo

Happy Birthday to SpiritWolf!

All the mommy killers were great moms. The wife killers were outstanding men. Even the serial killers were swell folks till they did what they did.

How often do you hear a family or friend of a murder suspect say "No, I'm not surprised at all. I was just waiting for the day he was charged with murder one. He's one sick, twisted person!"

Happy Birthday SpiritWolf.:smile:

[Ladyhawk]

You and me both!

So why didn't the A's get guardianship over Caylee a long time ago? I know, the A's are all about appearances and what would the neighbors think attitude, but Caylee needed protection! :cursing:

Good morning everyone! Happy holiday weekend!

I think the reason Cindy didn't go for guardianship is because that would require effort...she doesn't want to put forth the effort to back up anything she says, she just wants you to accept what she says and act accordingly. She'd have to get an attorney, and document incidents and other kinds of proof and come up with the money, etc.....that's too much trouble for her to go to. IMO, her mindset is that she will eventually get what she wants if she nags and belittles long enough. Somewhere in her life she has had her bad behavior rewarded and therefore continues to do it. She reminds me so much of a wonderful dog I used to have that would sit at the bottom of the tree that her frizbee was in and bark at it..she would do this for hours because once or twice before when it was stuck and she barked, the wind had blown it down...so she would repeat that behavior every time.

[msgatorslayer]

Good morning - Cindy's response is just so wrong in many ways.

Demanding justice for Caylee means leaving her family alone. You have got to be kidding me. Why? So their secrets and involvement in the case do not become public? Once again, it is not about Cayle, it is about the Ant family.

The facts are not supporting that her mother did it. Ridiculous statement. Delusional.

Jesus was crucified unjustly. Wow. I will refrain from commenting on this.


imo

ITA - She shouldn't even reply to people in e-mails. Nothing she says makes sense. One must sip the kool-aid, put the tin foil hat on, and pose in the rose colored glasses to understand her.

I bet if Joe Blow was in jail for murder one, charged with killing Caylee, she'd be singing a different tune.

[*MoonRider*]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

GM & Welcome to the boards. Thank you for sharing that email. Wow, "leaving her family alone." If they want to be left alone, why do they go on national television and ask for donations. "let the family grieve in their own way" Begging for donations is grieving? "God is in control and HE is the only one that truly has the answer" Casey has a few answers, but no one will ask her any questions. Casey is no Jesus.

OregonGirl posted this yesterday and would recommend that Cindy with her convenient "new found" faith read it. Proverbs 28.1
13 People who cover over their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and forsake them, they will receive mercy.
17 A murderer's tormented conscience will drive him into the grave. Don't protect him!
24 Robbing your parents and then saying, "What's wrong with that?" is as serious as committing murder.
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=pr+28&t=nlt&language=en&sr=0&l=en#F43

Keep those donations coming. :thumbdown:

[lizzard]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

Welcome, Trezz :seeya:

Thanks for sharing that.
Just when you think Cindy couldn't possibly go any lower.......:thumbdown:

[Kokopelli]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

Well it will be a sad day when they equate Casey with the struggles of Confuscious, Mohammed, Tsar Nicholas, Winston Churchill, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, Buddha, Martin Luther King, Cleopatra or many of the other great historians who were "unjustly" misunderstood! :laugh:

[trich]

I think she was 21:confused:..Anyone?

Casey was 19 I think when she had Caylee.
She is only just 23 now.
Caylee would have been 3 last August had her mother not killed her.

[*MoonRider*]

Welcome, Trezz :seeya:

Thanks for sharing that.
Just when you think Cindy couldn't possibly go any lower.......:thumbdown:
I wonder if Cindy is counting this letter as one of her thousands of supporters? It's the new math. :wink:

[Dells]

Hi I'm new to this board thought you all might be interested in this e-mail I received from Cindy. She actual compares what Casey is going through with Jesus being crucified.

fromCindy Anthony <cindy@dgator.com>


dateMon, May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
subjectRE: Justice for Caylee
mailed-bydgator.com

hide details May 18 (4 days ago) Reply


DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MEANS GIVING HER MOTHER A FAIR TRIAL AND LEAVING HER FAMILY ALONE. CAYLEE DOES DESERVE JUSTICE AND INSTEAD OF SPECULATION THE FACTS ARE NOT SUPPORTING THAT HER MOTHER DID IT. HOW UNJUST WOULD IT BE TO CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON ESPECIALLY HER MOM. LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THEY FAMILY GRIEVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRULY HAS THE ANSWER. JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED UNJUSTLY.



Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Justice for Caylee

To: cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net


When you start demanding Justice for Caylee then and only then would I consider sending a donation. Watching your depositions makes me wonder if you can even be trusted with my money. I have no interest in helping fund Casey's defense as if she was a decent person she would plead guilty and give her beautiful daughter the peace she deserves. Never once have I heard anyone from your family demand Justice for poor Caylee.

Welcome to the board and thank you so much for sharing this email w/us. :seeya: Glad to have you here w/us!

Sheesh, Cindy is seriously delusional. The woman needs help and if she is seeing a therapist (like she told another poster in an email to them), then she needs to fire them ASAP and hire a new one because her current one is not doing her any good at all.:thumbdown:

Seriously, the facts don't support that Casey is the one that murdered Caylee?!?! Really?!?! On the contrary, the facts support that Casey, and ONLY CASEY, is the one that murdered her daughter in cold blood. What facts are Cindy looking at? Perhaps she is looking at the facts from another case, because 99.99% of the people that see the evidence in this case are convinced w/out a doubt that Casey is guilty of murdering her daughter.

If Cindy really believes half the stuff that she writes, then she needs to be institutionalized and NOT without haste. It makes me ill to think of how Cindy will try to spin everything once Casey actually is convicted. She will hail her a martyr for sure, as if she isn't already doing just that. I go back and forth, I can't decide who I despise more. Cindy or Casey. Right now I guess it is tied. Poor Caylee, she never had a chance w/those 2 vile women.:thumbdown:

[lizzard]

Too bad there isn't a Lee finger icon. :w00t:

If you find one and use it, you might get this.

http://bestsmileys.com/banned/1.gif

(wait for it)

[CelticDawn]

Casey was 19 I think when she had Caylee.
She is only just 23 now.
Caylee would have been 3 last August had her mother not killed her.

:rose:

Every time I read this or hear this I think of my own children at three years old...I think of the many cousins and friends who have young children and what a joy they are!!

I think of all of the three year old girls that are enjoying this holiday weekend with their families and loved ones and just experiencing the wonder and awe of growing up.....new experiences.


This was taken away from Caylee Marie, but I take comfort in knowing that God is taking care of her now.

[seeing_eye]

You and me both!

So why didn't the A's get guardianship over Caylee a long time ago? I know, the A's are all about appearances and what would the neighbors think attitude, but Caylee needed protection! :cursing:

IIRC, Cindy talked about getting custody of Caylee to one or more of her co-workers because, as Cindy said, Casey was an unfit mother. (Paraphrasing here.) The reason she gave for not doing so was the expense and she could not afford it. So it all boiled down to a money issue.

[seeing_eye]

I know :crying:
I will never understand why if she did not want caylee then why would she not just give her to her parents or tell them she was putting her up for adoption..I think she did this for many reasons one to take Caylee from her parents who gave her more time than they did her..I really feel they are blaming themselves and they should they failed that child by allowing Casey to act out like this for years and I get it when they say a theft is not a murder but something horrible happened she is not in for theft she is in for the murder of her child..so they need to stop and just say we are sorry but this is our daughter we failed her and our granddaughter we pushed her into being a perfect mommy bla bla and so on..even though every time they get on camera I see how KC ended up like she is...she learned from the best

Speaking of the Anthonys' behavior on camera brings me to mind of the May 21, 2009 article on http://www.wftv.com/news/19521509/detail.html

In it they give their reasons why they don't want to be deposed again in the civil suit by saying they were subjected to public ridicule, the first time they were questioned in the lawsuit, for the way they behaved and they don't want to face that kind of criticism again.

Well, if Cindy is reading this message board, I have some advice for you. If you don't want to be subjected to public ridicule for your behavior on camera, then change your behavior to something that is not ridiculous.