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bookie
05-22-2009, 07:01 PM
New thread for Haleigh.
bookie
05-22-2009, 07:15 PM
The WESH article settled one question brought up last night. Snodgrass was in his own home when Cobra illegally detained him. He wasn't at the Haleighbug center around children.
5boxersmom
05-22-2009, 07:28 PM
I wish that Haleigh would come home safe. :rose:
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 07:28 PM
The WESH article settled one question brought up last night. Snodgrass was in his own home when Cobra illegally detained him. He wasn't at the Haleighbug center around children.
TY for the pm.
Yep in his house minding his own business when Cobra decided to play super cop. Seriously what was the dude thinking.
lizzard
05-22-2009, 07:31 PM
The WESH article settled one question brought up last night. Snodgrass was in his own home when Cobra illegally detained him. He wasn't at the Haleighbug center around children.
my bold
Thanks for the thread, bookie. I thought everybody had gone to dinner!
Another rumour with legs that got put to rest????
Odd how that happens.
JackiBlu
05-22-2009, 07:34 PM
Thanks bookie for new thread, a safe week end to all. Just some thought for food.
It looks like AH, TJ Hart are going to have to chose sides. I do NOT believe either will be able to ride the fence.
Has anyone heard anything about Crystal's father moving out of state. If so, I find it strange he is leaving as the fight begins.
KP, Crystal and Marie then you have Cobra and Johnny Sheffield. This can really split a family.
Haven't heard anything about him moving out of state. Why would he do that with his granddaughter missing?
I would like to know why the split with KP and Cobra; what happened? Did Cobra find something that KP wanted to stay hidden?
This case is getting very strange. I have some thoughts but will think them through before posting.
JMO
JackiBlu
05-22-2009, 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the thread, bookie. I thought everybody had gone to dinner!
Another rumour with legs that got put to rest????
Odd how that happens.
Glad that one got put to rest too. Also, looks like Ron had nothing to do with it as some were so boldly posting last night as fact.
JMO
carlybarly
05-22-2009, 07:53 PM
Thanks for the heads up on this thread! Glad to see more known on this Cobra thing. I agree with others here, wth was he thinking? And why would he have a loudspeaker? This circus is getting totally out of control. I just want Haleigh found.
carlybarly
05-22-2009, 07:54 PM
Surprise, surprise, If Ron can be blamed, he certainly will be. How did this story get messed up and NO ONE, KP AH or Hart, even attempted to say the truth and we all know they had the true story and facts.
OJ Simpson is in prison now for Kidnapping. This is a very serious crime.
You think KP knew these charges were coming and decided to throw MR. BH, to the wolves, to distance herself before the truth come out?:w00t:
ITA Funny how they all deliberately either misled or ignored printing the facts on this! Of course you have to wonder if Cobra himself didn't just tell them another version, omitting the fact he went right to his house.
bookie
05-22-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the heads up on this thread! Glad to see more known on this Cobra thing. I agree with others here, wth was he thinking? And why would he have a loudspeaker? This circus is getting totally out of control. I just want Haleigh found.
A loudspeaker with a siren to boot. Does he like to make people think he is LE?
Someone asked on the closed thread what this would do to his career as a bountyhunter. The only thing I see it doing, if convicted, is taking away his right to own and use a gun. Owning guns is a big no-no for convicted felons.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 08:03 PM
Glad that one got put to rest too. Also, looks like Ron had nothing to do with it as some were so boldly posting last night as fact.
JMO
I know one thing. If I ever get in trouble Ron C. is the first person I will call. He has more power than BO. I can't belive the number of people that thinks he runs the town of Satsuma. JMO
lizzard
05-22-2009, 08:08 PM
I know one thing. If I ever get in trouble Ron C. is the first person I will call. He has more power than BO. I can't belive the number of people that thinks he runs the town of Satsuma. JMO
You mean he doesn't??:ohmy:
JackiBlu
05-22-2009, 08:12 PM
I know one thing. If I ever get in trouble Ron C. is the first person I will call. He has more power than BO. I can't belive the number of people that thinks he runs the town of Satsuma. JMO
Just amazing how much power Ron has; that is according to some.
JMO
bookie
05-22-2009, 08:40 PM
I missed most of yesterdays thread last evening and am catching up now...I just wanted to make something perfectly clear...I am in NO WAY defending a SO for anything, when I take glee in the bounty hunter's arrest.... One thing, Snodgrass (sp?) has not been convicted yet....two, I am not defending him in the least. If and when he is found guilty, it would be perfectly fine with me if they would just go ahead and execute him.
With that said, I stand by my being thrilled that the bounty hunter was arrested. He committed a crime...even more so now than we originally thought, and he deserves to be arrested. This isn't even a matter of whether he did it or not...he admitted doing it. If I, or anyone else here did the same thing, we would be arrested and should be.
No one was defending Snodgrass regarding his molestation charges. Some of us were defending his right to not be illegally detained by someone out for his 15 minutes of fame.
calamitygirl
05-22-2009, 09:00 PM
The WESH article settled one question brought up last night. Snodgrass was in his own home when Cobra illegally detained him. He wasn't at the Haleighbug center around children.
Thanks bookie, I didn't know that.
lizzard
05-22-2009, 09:01 PM
I missed most of yesterdays thread last evening and am catching up now...I just wanted to make something perfectly clear...I am in NO WAY defending a SO for anything, when I take glee in the bounty hunter's arrest.... One thing, Snodgrass (sp?) has not been convicted yet....two, I am not defending him in the least. If and when he is found guilty, it would be perfectly fine with me if they would just go ahead and execute him.
With that said, I stand by my being thrilled that the bounty hunter was arrested. He committed a crime...even more so now than we originally thought, and he deserves to be arrested. This isn't even a matter of whether he did it or not...he admitted doing it. If I, or anyone else here did the same thing, we would be arrested and should be.
What you said :thumbsup:
calamitygirl
05-22-2009, 09:03 PM
I know one thing. If I ever get in trouble Ron C. is the first person I will call. He has more power than BO. I can't belive the number of people that thinks he runs the town of Satsuma. JMO
That was a good one, ?no, lol
calamitygirl
05-22-2009, 09:06 PM
What you said :thumbsup:
Oh yea, what Pia said:thumbsup:
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 09:07 PM
Pretty much the same thing
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=138497&provider=top
Staubs is accused of telling the man that he was revoking the man's bond. Detectives determined that his bond had not been revoked; he had been bonded out by a licensed company and had committed no violations.
lizzard
05-22-2009, 09:08 PM
haven't had a chance to read yesterday's post Jacki..but I can imagine the post are pretty much the same as always....now..how can some get the blame BACK onto Ron??? Give em time..kwim?
Wait for it........
bookie
05-22-2009, 09:14 PM
oh bookie..had not thought of that either..maybe Cobra should NOT have turned down that multi million dollar movie deal..think he is having second thoughts now.? ...Nah...there was no movie deal..what was I thinking? lol...............:tonguewag:
Oh I'm sure there was a movie deal....in his imagination.
lizzard
05-22-2009, 09:16 PM
oh bookie..had not thought of that either..maybe Cobra should NOT have turned down that multi million dollar movie deal..think he is having second thoughts now.? ...Nah...there was no movie deal..what was I thinking? lol...............:tonguewag:
Bet he's just kickin' hisself in his britches what done gone and got too big for him!!
bookie
05-22-2009, 09:16 PM
Did he say there was a movie deal offer? That is too funny....who was offering him the deal?
Wait....I see a deal for him. AETV can get Dog to show him how to legally detain people, film it and make a name for Cobra. Ooops, that won't work. Dogs don't like snakes.
MrLucky917B
05-22-2009, 09:42 PM
Wait....I see a deal for him. AETV can get Dog to show him how to legally detain people, film it and make a name for Cobra. Ooops, that won't work. Dogs don't like snakes.
When Dog went into Mexico to grab a guy that was illegal...
bookie
05-22-2009, 09:51 PM
When Dog went into Mexico to grab a guy that was illegal...
True but because bounty hunting itself is illegal in Mexico. Dog seems to be staying in Hawaii and Colorado now.
MrLucky917B
05-22-2009, 09:59 PM
Dog risked his life and his son's life and his brother's life to get that so called man............he knew what could happen to him and he was arrested By the LE in Mexico................but let me say this..............he caught one bad man and eventually was broght back to the good old USA and is now in prison.where he belongs..................and DOG IS FREE.....and back on the job...
The guy Cobra arrested belongs in jail also..
JMOO
bookie
05-22-2009, 10:02 PM
The guy Cobra arrested belongs in jail also..
JMOO
No one is saying he doesn't. If guilty then yes he should be in prison but until he goes to trial and is convicted he still has rights that Cobra violated.
CC I See
05-22-2009, 10:07 PM
I agree Texas, Dog knew this PO* was wanted in the USA and went to bring him back into our country. he did it with out guns, sirens or bull horns. Ever thing I have seen of Dog, he is also a humble man, not filthy mouth and show much respect for women. Cobra is exactly the opposite. I would slap his jaws if he used the vulgar language in my presence. The way he spoke about TN, grandmother to a missing child,showed me he was in any way a man.
Well, I admire him because he is trying to find out what happened to Haleigh and believes in what he is doing, helps find those answers.
bookie
05-22-2009, 10:09 PM
But wasn't he arrested a year or so ago?
Yes. Hawaii extradited all 3 back to Mexico where they were arrested.
bookie
05-22-2009, 10:10 PM
Well, I admire him because he is trying to find out what happened to Haleigh and believes in what he is doing, helps find those answers.
He hasn't found any answers. Instead he's out breaking laws.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 10:14 PM
Pretty much the same thing
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=138497&provider=top
Staubs is accused of telling the man that he was revoking the man's bond. Detectives determined that his bond had not been revoked; he had been bonded out by a licensed company and had committed no violations.
Guess Cobra is getting his wish. He is getting attention in main stream media. Problem is, I don't think that is the way he wanted to get in main stream media!!! JMO
lizzard
05-22-2009, 10:16 PM
The guy Cobra arrested belongs in jail also..
JMOO
IF he is found guilty, he deserves worse. He also deserves a fair trial first.
Same for Cobra.
still laughing ~ this is gonna be good.:laugh:
imo
MrLucky917B
05-22-2009, 10:18 PM
he has not even had a trial yet mr Lucky...
If he was living next to you I bet you would want him in jail...
lizzard
05-22-2009, 10:25 PM
Well, I admire him because he is trying to find out what happened to Haleigh and believes in what he is doing, helps find those answers.
I asked this yesterday, and no answer yet. What, exactly, has Cobra done to help find Haleigh? And to paraphrase Dr. Phil, how's that working for him?
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 10:26 PM
Yeah but it works for me.
Honestly, I think if he had focused more on Haleigh instead of the media attention, he may have found some answers. I am still dying to know what the fallout between him and KP was all about and the comment about Crystal's hands not being clean...
I think it started with the $800. that CS gave him to reimburse the person who had paid some bills for HBC. Cobra said the person told him to take the money and use it for bail for NN & AB. But a parting of the ways was inevitable. Too many big egos all wanting attention for oneself. JMO
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 10:29 PM
I asked this yesterday, and no answer yet. What, exactly, has Cobra done to help find Haleigh? And to paraphrase Dr. Phil, how's that working for him?
I don't think he has done anything to help find her. In fact he probably has hindered LE in their investigation. All for self glorification. I wonder how long TJH & AH are going to enable him to stay in the limelight. Course without him, they would not have much to report either. JMO
bookie
05-22-2009, 10:33 PM
If he was living next to you I bet you would want him in jail...
There is one living next to me....literally the next house up the road. What I want doesn't matter. He was arrested, tried, convicted and released after serving his time. I wasn't asked if I wanted him living in my neighborhood. Neither were any of my other neighbors.
There is ALWAYS an adult outside when my grandchildren are outside playing. My other children walk to the bus stop with cell phones so they can call for help if needed since I'm already at work when they leave for school. We know we have no choice so we watch our children more diligently.
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 10:36 PM
Guess Cobra is getting his wish. He is getting attention in main stream media. Problem is, I don't think that is the way he wanted to get in main stream media!!! JMO
So true. Isn't his 15 minutes about up?
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 10:42 PM
So true. Isn't his 15 minutes about up?
That's what I am hoping. Keeping my fingers crossed. JMO
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 10:47 PM
If he was living next to you I bet you would want him in jail...
Oh the drama! I have many living around me and I check on the ones that live around my grandkids. Does NO good. These SO abscond from their home states to other states. We just had a little 4 year old kidnapped and raped here in Texas. The son of a gun was from California and showed up in Texas to hurt a child. :cursing:
Here's her thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=353408 Read the whole dang thing!
Daniel S. has not been convicted, yet. I hope he is convicted, if guilty. Cobra is a JOKE, imo. This is about Haleigh and not Cobra and not Kim P. or her "foundation".
moo
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 10:50 PM
Yeah it is funny how he bragged about bailing them out and it wasn't even his money...
Good Evening (:
He never claimed he bailed them out ... he stated it was through a bails bondsman ... he took them for chicken dinners after they got out
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Good Evening (:
He never claimed he bailed them out ... he stated it was through a bails bondsman ... he took them for chicken dinners after they got out
He kept giving different versions. In one he was a bails bondsman. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 10:57 PM
Mexico wanted him...Not the US....He is NOT is jail..
He was arrested, released on bail, placed on house arrest then charges dropped eventually
Yes, for Mexico ... he violated their laws
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 10:57 PM
He kept giving different versions. In one he was a bails bondsman. JMO
Yep he and Art H and their spin/spin:
Her last get out of jail free card came from Staubs. Just before Cobra bonded her out Monday morning, task force detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff’s task force on the missing five year old, tell me they were interviewing Prevatt in jail, but learned nothing new.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/30/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-nay-nay-out-of-jail/
moo
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 10:58 PM
He kept giving different versions. In one he was a bails bondsman. JMO
Didn't he say it was Chuck's?
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:03 PM
Didn't he say it was Chuck's?
I think Chuck's was the one that bailed them out after Cobra took them back to jail.
I think Cobra was afraid of being in that jail. On another website, it said he had a bondsman with him and bond in hand and that co. balked. He then had to find another one. That is supposedly the reason he didn't get out in his 5 Min. that he said. Also on The sky he said it was AA bail that was going his bail and he was going to be in their booth helping them. Guess if they balked, he won't be helping them. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:03 PM
Does the Waffle House serve chicken??
Ummm I do not know, why?
Are you hungry?
;)
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:04 PM
I think Chuck's was the one that bailed them out after Cobra took them back to jail.
I think Cobra was afraid of being in that jail. On another website, it said he had a bondsman with him and bond in hand and that co. balked. He then had to find another one. That is supposedly the reason he didn't get out in his 5 Min. that he said. Also on The sky he said it was AA bail that was going his bail and he was going to be in their booth helping them. Guess if they balked, he won't be helping them. JMO
Cobra should be afraid in jail ...
Has he already been arrested?
TIA
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:04 PM
Does the Waffle House serve chicken??
Cobra thought they had chicken, but when they got there, they
"waffled on him" and he had to eat pork (Ham/Sausage!! j/k JMO
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 11:05 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
bookie
05-22-2009, 11:06 PM
Cobra should be afraid in jail ...
Has he already been arrested?
TIA
At 10 something this morning. He didn't get bailed out in the 5 minutes he predicted though. It took over 2 hours to get him out.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:06 PM
Cobra should be afraid in jail ...
Has he already been arrested?
TIA
Yes and bonded out. http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754245&IMG=58634
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php has a report and video from Cobra and one for KP. JMO
Riverwalk!
05-22-2009, 11:06 PM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754245&IMG=58634
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:06 PM
Didn't he say it was Chuck's?
You have things confused. Cobra bailed the girls out the first time then they went back and Chucks bailed them out the second time.
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:07 PM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754245&IMG=58634
IMO he looks like all the other unsavory people in that county.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:08 PM
If anyone wants to see a lovefest for Cobra, go to the blogger radio web page. JMO
calamitygirl
05-22-2009, 11:08 PM
Well, I admire him because he is trying to find out what happened to Haleigh and believes in what he is doing, helps find those answers.
Hi CC, I am not convinced about Cobra. I do think in the beginning that was his agenda, but I think he has gone way off track.
MrLucky917B
05-22-2009, 11:10 PM
Didn't he say it was Chuck's?
that was the second time
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:10 PM
IMO he looks like all the other unsavory people in that county.
At least he combed/cut? his hair before he turned himself in. He looks so different in that mug shot than in the video of him when he was on a snake hunt with TN. I wonder if that is the first time he has been arrested. JMO
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Hi CC, I am not convinced about Cobra. I do think in the beginning that was his agenda, but I think he has gone way off track.
I think he fooled a lot of people in the beginning. It will be interesting to see if TJH and AH distance themselves from him as has KP. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:12 PM
You have things confused. Cobra bailed the girls out the first time then they went back and Chucks bailed them out the second time.Ok thanks (:
So that is where the "hands are not clean" statement came from?
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:14 PM
Ok thanks (:
So that is where the "hands are not clean" statement came from?
Cobra said Crystals hands were not clean... don't know why, but i'm sure we'll find out one day.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:15 PM
Ok thanks (:
So that is where the "hands are not clean" statement came from?
No, it was from the greasy chicken! J/K No, I think he was referring to KP and CS in that statement. He has started talking in riddles so it's not easy to know where he is coming from. I think he is talking in riddles because he really doesn't know anything. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:15 PM
I think he fooled a lot of people in the beginning. It will be interesting to see if TJH and AH distance themselves from him as has KP. JMO
That is a hard call .. I think his heart is in the right place but his motives are getting mixed up
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:16 PM
No, it was from the greasy chicken! J/K No, I think he was referring to KP and CS in that statement. He has started talking in riddles so it's not easy to know where he is coming from. I think he is talking in riddles because he really doesn't know anything. JMO
I took it has drug money?
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:17 PM
:wink:Thank you, just finished some chicken wings. I think that is where Mr. BH, hangs out isn't?? I am sure if he took the, little ladies to dinner, it would be to his favorite hang out. LOL
And here I thought it was Meemaw's!
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:17 PM
I took it has drug money?
I don't know anything about drugs. JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:18 PM
well if Cobra didn't use his own money to bail out the girls i wonder what he really spent that 30,000 on trying to find Haleigh
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:19 PM
Cobra said Crystals hands were not clean... don't know why, but i'm sure we'll find out one day.
Yeah .. he said her hands were not clean either ... that is why I thought he was referring to drug money being behind a few things
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:21 PM
I don't know anything about drugs. JMO
The guy behind the money -- Jerome?
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah .. he said her hands were not clean either ... that is why I thought he was referring to drug money being behind a few things
maybe..........
honestly i dont trust ANY of the adults in this case. (( yes i'm counting Misty as an adult ))
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:22 PM
well if Cobra didn't use his own money to bail out the girls i wonder what he really spent that 30,000 on trying to find Haleigh
Buying information? from the girls behind the waffle house? And I think it was 35,000. If he really did spend that much money, it tells me he really is crazy. Didn't he file bankruptcy a few years ago? Any sane person will not spend every penny they don't have to investigate a total stranger's case. Doesn't make sense. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:29 PM
Buying information? from the girls behind the waffle house? And I think it was 35,000. If he really did spend that much money, it tells me he really is crazy. Didn't he file bankruptcy a few years ago? Any sane person will not spend every penny they don't have to investigate a total stranger's case. Doesn't make sense. JMO
Color me confused
I thought there was a donation made in the amount of $30,000 that crystal used for whatever for the center, etc and the balance of that was $800 and Crystal was supposed to give that $800 to Cobra towards bailing out the girls the first time?
That was when Cobra made the "clean hands" comment?
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:33 PM
#295
William COBRA Staubs Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Art, please clear up two things, One, these two girls did have information and that information is still being unraveled. Two, Crystal never paid 800.00 to me. She did hand me 800.00 after her rent, electric, and whatever else was paid by someone else and she had to repay it as agreed out of donations, That person instructed me to pick up the money and get these girls out of jail. Now some horse trading was done with the bondsman and I. I then used the money as needed to find Haleigh with premission of that person. Crystal nor the Haleigh center Nor any family members on either side have supported me since March 31. Before that I did get some food here and some gas there and a room or two, totaling aprox. 600.00 or so and I signed for it. I will not take money from either side as no one has clean hands and yes I said that!
If whoever took something so inocent and put it out there to make me look bad, shame on them. This was cash money and only three people knew and twisted this. That is part of clean hands I speak of. In closing, I will repay any money if anyone has a problem. I thought a little girl was missing, they make it sound like the money is more important, maybe to them it is….Folks should signal any LANE CHANGES…..
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:36 PM
Color me confused
I thought there was a donation made in the amount of $30,000 that crystal used for whatever for the center, etc and the balance of that was $800 and Crystal was supposed to give that $800 to Cobra towards bailing out the girls the first time?
That was when Cobra made the "clean hands" comment?
WoW someone gave Crystal 30,000? That's great. I wonder what she used it on because she IMO she sure didn't use it on the HBC.
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:37 PM
Cobra said a few weeks ago he's spent 35,000 of his own money looking for Haleigh and only received about 400 in donations.
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:38 PM
WoW someone gave Crystal 30,000? That's great. I wonder what she used it on because she IMO she sure didn't use it on the HBC.
Not sure what the exact amount was ... going by the post I just made above
Amount seems undisclosed?
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:38 PM
Color me confused
I thought there was a donation made in the amount of $30,000 that crystal used for whatever for the center, etc and the balance of that was $800 and Crystal was supposed to give that $800 to Cobra towards bailing out the girls the first time?
That was when Cobra made the "clean hands" comment?
I have never heard about a 30,000 donation to the HBC. I understood CS gave him 800. to give to a person that had paid some bills for the HBC and then that person told him to use the money for the bail. Only three people was supposed to know about it. Then when it came out, I think he was mad because someone told it; therefore his statement about the "clean hands". JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:42 PM
Not sure what the exact amount was ... going by the post I just made above
Amount seems undisclosed?
that post doesn't say anything about 30K so where did you hear that number from?
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:44 PM
that post doesn't say anything about 30K so where did you hear that number from?
Sorry -- from above
I trusted another poster's original amount
I cannot find the amount either
:unsure:
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:44 PM
Simon: Out of curiosity how much has your search for Haleigh cost you?
Cobra: To date approximately $35,000
http://www.bloggernews.net/120786
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:46 PM
Sorry -- from above
I trusted another poster's original amount
I cannot find the amount either
:unsure:
That other poster was talking about how much of cobra's own person money he used not how much was donated to Crystal.
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:47 PM
Simon: Out of curiosity how much has your search for Haleigh cost you?
Cobra: To date approximately $35,000
http://www.bloggernews.net/120786
Same link says
Simon: Do you think Crystal Sheffield is who she portrays herself to be for the media?
Cobra: NO I don’t think any of them have clean hands.
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:48 PM
That other poster was talking about how much of cobra's own person money he used not how much was donated to Crystal.
That is what I am concluding
$800 was the balance from the unnamed donor ... Original amount never stated
(I still say it was drug money and that is the clean hands comment)
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:49 PM
That is what I am concluding
$800 was the balance from the unnamed donor ... Original amount never stated
(I still say it was drug money and that is the clean hands comment)
I've never heard anything about the unnamed donor. You might be right but the 35,000 Cobra was talking about was his own personal money he said.......Not saying i believe him though because like he said no one in this case has clean hands. I think he's doing this for money and fame
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:50 PM
That is what I am concluding
$800 was the balance from the unnamed donor ... Original amount never stated
(I still say it was drug money and that is the clean hands comment)
The 800. was never referred to as a balance. It was referred to as an amount CS gave to Cobra to give to the person that paid the bills for HBC. The, according to Cobra that person told him to use the money for the bail.
Edited to add. If they are using cash and not keeping a paper trail, they will be in trouble if they continue to do so after it becomes a non-for-profit entity. JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-22-2009, 11:52 PM
The 800. was never referred to as a balance. It was referred to as an amount CS gave to Cobra to give to the person that paid the bills for HBC. The, according to Cobra that person told him to use the money for the bail. JMO
Exactly.......That's the way i heard Cobra say it on the radio show sunday.
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:56 PM
Exactly.......That's the way i heard Cobra say it on the radio show sunday.
I really don't believe too much of what Cobra says, though. KP better get a hand on the money situation and start keeping records. The donations need to be put into a bank account immediately and anything dispensed should be by check and the check should have a hard copy invoice detailing what it was for. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-22-2009, 11:56 PM
The 800. was never referred to as a balance. It was referred to as an amount CS gave to Cobra to give to the person that paid the bills for HBC. The, according to Cobra that person told him to use the money for the bail.
Edited to add. If they are using cash and not keeping a paper trail, they will be in trouble if they continue to do so after it becomes a non-for-profit entity. JMO
It was said that the $800 was "after" so that is the balance
?noanswer
05-22-2009, 11:57 PM
It was said that the $800 was "after" so that is the balance
If that is what you conclude, then you are entitled to your conclusion. JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-23-2009, 12:01 AM
It was said that the $800 was "after" so that is the balance
but did you read what it said?
after her rent, electric, and whatever else was paid by someone else and she had to repay
doesn't sound like a donation
sounds like someone paid her first month at the place and she had to pay them back. that person could have been her lawyer....MOO
and NEVER did Cobra say 35k was donated to Crystal.
TaraCrazyHair
05-23-2009, 12:01 AM
If that is what you conclude, then you are entitled to your conclusion. JMO
What other conclusion do you get from this comment?
Two, Crystal never paid 800.00 to me. She did hand me 800.00 after her rent, electric, and whatever else was paid by someone else and she had to repay it as agreed out of donations, That person instructed me to pick up the money and get these girls out of jail.
:confused:
FallenAngel♥
05-23-2009, 12:03 AM
What other conclusion do you get from this comment?
Two, Crystal never paid 800.00 to me. She did hand me 800.00 after her rent, electric, and whatever else was paid by someone else and she had to repay it as agreed out of donations, That person instructed me to pick up the money and get these girls out of jail.
:confused:
I think Kim wanted the girls out of jail.
TaraCrazyHair
05-23-2009, 12:05 AM
but did you read what it said?
doesn't sound like a donation
sounds like someone paid her first month at the place and she had to pay them back. that person could have been her lawyer....MOO
and NEVER did Cobra say 35k was donated to Crystal.
I realize that -- I misunderstood another poster about the original amount
It sounds to me like somebody "loaned" her the money ... she had to repay what that person gave her from the donations she received and then the balance of the amount ($800) went to bail out Amber and nay nay
That is is why i feel the original money came from a drug person (jerome)
Make sense?
TaraCrazyHair
05-23-2009, 12:06 AM
I think Kim wanted the girls out of jail.
I dunno ... the "clean hands" does not sound like he referred to Kim
(shrug)
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:08 AM
It was said that the $800 was "after" so that is the balance
The "after" referred to AFTER another person paid the bills, CS gave Cobra $800. to reimburse the other person for paying the bill. Whomever the other person was did not take the money from Cobra, instead he told Cobra to use it for the bail. JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-23-2009, 12:09 AM
I realize that -- I misunderstood another poster about the original amount
It sounds to me like somebody "loaned" her the money ... she had to repay what that person gave her from the donations she received and then the balance of the amount ($800) went to bail out Amber and nay nay
That is is why i feel the original money came from a drug person (jerome)
Make sense?
Yeah that does make sense and you might be right. That might be another reason why Crystal went home and hasn't been back to the HBC. I'm sure after Haleighs found Cobra will write a tell all book about what all happen behind the scenes.
I dont think Crystal kidnapped Haleigh but i don't think she's an honest person either.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:10 AM
Listen to the video of KP on AH from today, maybe you will be less confused. KP explains how she put out all the money to open the HBH. She dis a lot of confessing today. I think she thought she was at confession instead of a statement for the public to hear.
AH or TJH? I don't see anything on AH. JMO
FallenAngel♥
05-23-2009, 12:10 AM
Listen to the video of KP on AH from today, maybe you will be less confused. KP explains how she put out all the money to open the HBH. She dis a lot of confessing today. I think she thought she was at confession instead of a statement for the public to hear.
Yeah that's the what i thought.........Kim put all the money down on the HBC thinking that there would be tons of donations and Crystal could pay her back.
TaraCrazyHair
05-23-2009, 12:14 AM
Yeah that's the what i thought.........Kim put all the money down on the HBC thinking that there would be tons of donations and Crystal could pay her back.
I figured it was Jerome
Or somebody like him .....
If YKWIM
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:14 AM
Yeah that's the what i thought.........Kim put all the money down on the HBC thinking that there would be tons of donations and Crystal could pay her back.
I think she may be in for a rude awakening. There were a lot of people coming together with CS when the cameras were there, but since she has left and gone back to Baker Co., I bet there are not many donations coming in. IIRC, the rent for the building was $500. plus utilities and other expenses. JMO
TaraCrazyHair
05-23-2009, 12:15 AM
Sounds like my stock.:crying:
LOL .. I hear ya!
Got my vacation check ... or should I say only half of it .. the rest went to the Gov
Such a crime
FallenAngel♥
05-23-2009, 12:22 AM
I think she may be in for a rude awakening. There were a lot of people coming together with CS when the cameras were there, but since she has left and gone back to Baker Co., I bet there are not many donations coming in. IIRC, the rent for the building was $500. plus utilities and other expenses. JMO
In all reality i don't think the HBC will be open much longer. Maybe through the summer but i doubt much longer then that. MOO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:28 AM
In all reality i don't think the HBC will be open much longer. Maybe through the summer but i doubt much longer then that. MOO
I think you are correct in your thinking. I would think that if there were very much in donations, it has already been spent. In a way, I hope there was not many donations. I don't want people to get the idea that a missing child is a money making project. When the HBC first web page was published, it was stated that CS needed money for JR & Chole. Where would she have gotten that money before Haleigh went missing. I can't see Haleigh being missing as an excuse for buying things for her other children. JMO
BobbysGirl
05-23-2009, 12:33 AM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754245&IMG=58634
How precious. Sure don't look happy. $5004 bond. LOL Bless his pea pickin' heart.
Thanks for the links and updates.
BG
lizzard
05-23-2009, 12:47 AM
In all reality i don't think the HBC will be open much longer. Maybe through the summer but i doubt much longer then that. MOO
Unless KP kicks more in, I can't see how rent will be paid. I don't think donations are coming in fast enough to cover through summer. Sad.
lizzard
05-23-2009, 02:16 AM
Remembering little Haleigh this weekend. :rose:
Come home soon baby girl. :rose:
I think you are correct in your thinking. I would think that if there were very much in donations, it has already been spent. In a way, I hope there was not many donations. I don't want people to get the idea that a missing child is a money making project. When the HBC first web page was published, it was stated that CS needed money for JR & Chole. Where would she have gotten that money before Haleigh went missing. I can't see Haleigh being missing as an excuse for buying things for her other children. JMO
I'm not sure why CS would need money for Jr anyway. Isn't he still w/Ron @ somebody's grandma's where they are staying? (Sorry, I have missed a few days of posts, so might have missed something.)
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
I haven't figured it out yet. PK was the one who got him involved in the case, and now she is wanting him to go away? What's with that? TIA
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the links I see here, I'll have to catch up on them after lunch. Hoping something happens this weekend to bring us closer to Haleigh being home!
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 09:49 AM
Interview with Cobra, 20 minutes long.
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm
Who is this person/organization? I notice it says the web page is under construction. JMO
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 10:30 AM
Sounds like my stock.:crying:
:sneaky:Ditto Bam Bam, and I think Cobra has a hard time distinguishing fact from fiction these days IYKWIM....:rolleyes: jmo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 11:10 AM
[/B]Bolded is mine........................FA...this is what many posters said when Cobra first walked into town with guns and video of himself...............and many posters were convinced he was there for the sole purpose to FIND HALEIGH.................because HE CARED....and..to this day..some posters will still say the same........Cobra cares...............all he has done is for Haleigh..not for money or fame.................I will NEVER believe him or his reasons........................jmo:thumbdown:
Although I know it is late, I was up last night/early morning reading...............BTW you have an email...............
I, like you, believe that Cobra was out to make a name for himself. And...........the one he is making is not turning out to be what he was after. moo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 11:19 AM
Good morning everyone..................thank you for starting this thread for us for the holiday week-end.
Hopefully, all of you will have a fun filled week-end.
To make this week-end the best yet.............we would hear that Haleigh has been returned to her family safe.
Also, for all you traveling.........please be safe!
Peaches
05-23-2009, 11:22 AM
I'm not sure why CS would need money for Jr anyway. Isn't he still w/Ron @ somebody's grandma's where they are staying? (Sorry, I have missed a few days of posts, so might have missed something.)
Good question Amy! One we have asked often.
And, why does she need donations for her young daughter? She has a father who is suppose to support her.
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 11:47 AM
You have that backwards. Cobra brought KP in.
Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield. He brought her into the case.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=85212505&blogId=482388324
Does anyone really know the truth?? I remember in the beginning, it was Crystals mom, Marie, who sought out KP? Anyone know for sure?
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:04 PM
You have that backwards. Cobra brought KP in.
Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield. He brought her into the case.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=85212505&blogId=482388324
At one time it was reported that CS's mom got KP, but who knows anymore. The stories keep changing. JMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:27 PM
Until someone comes up with a reasonable explanation of why Rev Grund would lie about the sequence of events, I'll go with his version.
MO
In the end, guess it doesn't really matter who got him involved. I believe all these periphal players have taken the focus off the search for Haleigh and have become a story all of its own. Please let Haleigh be found. JMO
Lovethechild
05-23-2009, 12:36 PM
what will be interesting is....IF..Cobra CAN back up his accusations......kwim?
I'm just wondering what accusations are you talking about? Still playing catch-up here. Thanks.
lizzard
05-23-2009, 12:38 PM
...good morning lizzard.........sorry I am so late in giving you a big WELCOME to the board...............I noticed you were a newbie yesterday and did not take the time to say hello.....very rude of me..kwim?...............
Well thanks, ~texas~. I think I'm going to like it here:wink:
Peaches
05-23-2009, 12:43 PM
Does anyone really know the truth?? I remember in the beginning, it was Crystals mom, Marie, who sought out KP? Anyone know for sure?
I agree with you. This is what I remember, too.
Hopefully someone can provide the link for us today. TIA someone.
moo
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:43 PM
I'm just wondering what accusations are you talking about? Still playing catch-up here. Thanks.
I'm not the poster you responded to, but check out this site:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php and there is another site posted upthread with a video. Cobra makes some accusations on both of those site. JMO
Peaches
05-23-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm not the poster you responded to, but check out this site:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php and there is another site posted upthread with a video. Cobra makes some accusations on both of those site. JMO
Thanks for posting this link. It is what Texas was responding too.
Also, thank you for your post...........you are always right on target.
jmoo
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm not the poster you responded to, but check out this site:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php and there is another site posted upthread with a video. Cobra makes some accusations on both of those site. JMO
Yes, interesting what Johnny was alleging. I wonder what Mr. Picazio had to say on his return call?
Kim allegedly telling him to butt out...unreal. But I pegged her from the start as trouble and not being there in the best interest of FINDING HALEIGH CUMMINGS and I remain committed to that belief. It seems she knows how to stir up trouble and make a run for it IMO.
There is nothing positive I've seen come from Kim. JMO.
Her reference to "THE HALEIGH SHOW" is just enough to make me barf. She is a lights, camera and action attention seeker and not much more. Oh I forget, she likes to cover all the dirt so she can beat the odds too. AGAIN JMO.:sneaky:
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:49 PM
Thanks for posting this link. It is what Texas was responding too.
Also, thank you for your post...........you are always right on target.
jmoo
AH also has a write up on cobra's antics. Seems Art may have been there with Cobra when he went to get Snodgrass. JMO
lizzard
05-23-2009, 12:50 PM
I asked this yesterday, and no answer yet. What, exactly, has Cobra done to help find Haleigh? And to paraphrase Dr. Phil, how's that working for him?
bumped
More people on the board today. Maybe somebody can answer??
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 12:51 PM
....I do remember back where that was put out about about Crystal asking for donations for her's and Chad's baby..........I never understood why....this was very confusing for me.....I can completely agree with asking for donations for the *reward* for info on finding Haleigh.......other than that I don't agree with anyone asking for money...Not Ron and not Crystal....................jmo
YES, and that seems to be a common thread for Crystal IMOO. She is looking for someone to take care of her EVEN PRIOR to her current health issues IMO.
But she is not so much into providing support for her children. That may come with the territory given what we've seen of the young women in that area. :sad:
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 12:53 PM
bumped
More people on the board today. Maybe somebody can answer??
See post #197. JMO
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 12:58 PM
bumped
More people on the board today. Maybe somebody can answer??
HE gave up a two million dollar movie deal to come look for Haleigh, doncha know????:sneaky:
He has given MeeMaws free advertisement whilst he plans his daily routine to go beat the bushes and shake the criminal element up in Palatka....all filed under searching for Haleigh.
He has given great dining reviews for WBG's momma who feeds him and others occasionally after his daily beating of the bushes in THREE COUNTIES....searching for HALEIGH....COUNT'EM THREE....
Now that you mention it, NOT SO MUCH IMOO. :cursing:
The entire circus has done nothing more than pander to their audience IMOO and all the while the PCSD claims to have all info they may have uncovered in the SO CALLED INVESTIGATION IIRC.
BRING HALEIGH CUMMINGS HOME! :wub:
iluvmua
05-23-2009, 01:06 PM
Haleigh's been missing for three months now and they STILL don't know where she is or who took her?
I'm betting on Ron and/or Misty.
Somebody in that house knows exactly what happened to Haleigh.
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 01:09 PM
I believe Rev Grund. I don't see any reason why he'd lie. According to him, a friend of Crystal's and Marie's approached him and asked if there was anything he could do to help them find Haleigh.
It's all in the link I posted above.
I don't recall saying Rev. Grund was lying about anything. Just stating what I remember. Don't remember about a friend asking that, so will chech out your link.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 01:12 PM
Someone posted upthread about Cobra's language. Wonder if there is any kind of Federal Commuications rules that disallows. I know that one guy got into all kinds of trouble & had to go to sattellite radio, but it was for a racial type of thing and of course there was the Janet Jackson thing. I think there are certain words that are not allowed on TV, but I don't know about radio.
Just did a google search and came up with this:
http://www.chacha.com/question/what-swear-words-are-you-not-allowed-to-say-on-the-radio (http://www.chacha.com/question/what-swear-words-are-you-not-allowed-to-say-on-the-radio)
Title 18 of the US Code prohibits the utterance of "any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication."
JMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 01:17 PM
Thanks for answering for ~texas~ Peaches. You must be a very good friend to be able to get inside her head like that. :wink:
ESP?? Meeting of the minds?? IUPG??
titanfan217
05-23-2009, 01:27 PM
Guess Cobra is getting his wish. He is getting attention in main stream media. Problem is, I don't think that is the way he wanted to get in main stream media!!! JMO
Blago told Letterman he wanted to get on his job in the worst way. He did it, and sounds as if Cobra did too.
OK, I'm done with Cobra and Blago talk.
Where is Haleigh?
JD1974
05-23-2009, 01:28 PM
I moved so I haven't had internet connection for awhile...well too long! Seems I have missed a lot of goings on!
lizzard
05-23-2009, 01:38 PM
HE gave up a two million dollar movie deal to come look for Haleigh, doncha know????:sneaky:
He has given MeeMaws free advertisement whilst he plans his daily routine to go beat the bushes and shake the criminal element up in Palatka....all filed under searching for Haleigh.
He has given great dining reviews for WBG's momma who feeds him and others occasionally after his daily beating of the bushes in THREE COUNTIES....searching for HALEIGH....COUNT'EM THREE....
Now that you mention it, NOT SO MUCH IMOO. :cursing:
The entire circus has done nothing more than pander to their audience IMOO and all the while the PCSD claims to have all info they may have uncovered in the SO CALLED INVESTIGATION IIRC.
BRING HALEIGH CUMMINGS HOME! :wub:
So the answer to the Dr. Phil question would be "not so good"?
jmo
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 02:25 PM
I've just finished reading this thread. I'd like to ask anyone who cares to answer if Kim P. and Cobra had not entered this case where would it stand today? By that I mean would this case have been solved, stalled or what.
Your question is impossible to answer. I just hope they have not comprimised any evidence that LE might have gathered. They have admitted that anything they have found out and turned over to LE, LE already knew. I do think they have caused LE to have to devote time to deal with some of their shenigans and taken LE away from working on the case. JMO
Can you be more specific? What accusations are you talking about?
Cobra was very specific in the 20-min video. He claims Crystal is on drugs and feels the drugs are responsible for her seizures. He claims Picazio is involved in his arrest as well as getting the bail bond he'd thought he'd had, stopped. He claims she's vindictive because he went public, saying no one had "clean hands". He says Crystal isn't any more fit than Ron to have the children, that Picazio should have done more research on Crystal before going public with her claims, and that Picazio has become so enamored over the public attention she's lost her focus.
The above is my interpretation of what I heard. Did you listen to the interview?
My question will be...where does this leave people who supported both Picazio and Cobra and their claims? Will they have to take sides now that there is a very public break up? Picazio is alleged to have gotten her own lawyer. Why? Does she feel she needs one in the coming days?
The public airing of dirty laundry has hurt the general public perception of this case since it started. Now those who came in allegedly to "find Haleigh" are in a public battle with each other. Accusations are being thrown left and right and everyone looks bad.
This helps how?
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 02:31 PM
Since Cobra is out on bail, is he allowed to have guns? Also regarding Cobra and the $35,000 (I think he just upped it to $40,000) spent on his search for Haleigh, he explained it by saying it costs him $10,000 per month living expense plus he supports 5 families. That was on one of the videos for which a link was posted earlier today. He has not spent the money on finding Haleigh, he just has not earned any money for personal use. JMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 02:36 PM
I have much respect for Rev. Grund and I visit his Myspace often..
It is possible that Rev. Grund may change his mind about..*the man..they call Cobra*..............Oh MY..another movie title..lol....:ohmy:
Time will tell......
I'm thinking the love fest between these periphal players is just about over. I wonder how much he has helped Rev. Grund re Jessie and the A's trying to involve him in the murder of Caylee. JMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm thinking the love fest between these periphal players is just about over. I wonder how much he has helped Rev. Grund re Jessie and the A's trying to involve him in the murder of Caylee. JMO
Someone let me know if I got this wrong, please. Wasn't Cobra already in Satsuma to look for Haleigh, a missing child, THEN left to help the Grunds concerns with the Anthony's??
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Don't you mean 'group?'
Kwim? :wink:
Care to explain?? "Group"??
I find it odd that people aren't interested in discussing the very public claims made by Cobra on the radio interview regarding Crystal and Picazio. No discussion on the impact these claims might have on the credibility of both Crystal and Picazio?
Seems snipping at each other is the prime motivator here. Too bad.
Cobra was very specific in the 20-min video. He claims Crystal is on drugs and feels the drugs are responsible for her seizures. He claims Picazio is involved in his arrest as well as getting the bail bond he'd thought he'd had, stopped. He claims she's vindictive because he went public, saying no one had "clean hands". He says Crystal isn't any more fit than Ron to have the children, that Picazio should have done more research on Crystal before going public with her claims, and that Picazio has become so enamored over the public attention she's lost her focus.
The above is my interpretation of what I heard. Did you listen to the interview?
My question will be...where does this leave people who supported both Picazio and Cobra and their claims? Will they have to take sides now that there is a very public break up? Picazio is alleged to have gotten her own lawyer. Why? Does she feel she needs one in the coming days?
The public airing of dirty laundry has hurt the general public perception of this case since it started. Now those who came in allegedly to "find Haleigh" are in a public battle with each other. Accusations are being thrown left and right and everyone looks bad.
This helps how?
I think you have it covered.That is what I heard from the audio interview with Cobra.I will have to listen again to the audio from J.Sheffield because I 'caint' (lol) understand him very well.
Good question as to who the supporters of KP and Cobra will support now.I'm curious about that as well.
I think Cobra was in it for money and KP for fame.I never trusted KP from the start,and still can't make myself like or respect her even a little bit.Cobra is a loose cannon and that will be KP's downfall.IMO
Does anyone else,besides me, think that KP may have paid Cobra to slant the case in KP's(Crystal's) favor? This falling out is to do with that eight hundred dollars and Cobra has said more than once the phrase "signal any lane changes" He also has said that he won't take money from anyone that will try to tell him how to operate(Simon interview) IMO
Did I hear right that Connie is now paying Cobra?
HouseOfClark
05-23-2009, 03:46 PM
I've just finished reading this thread. I'd like to ask anyone who cares to answer if Kim P. and Cobra had not entered this case where would it stand today? By that I mean would this case have been solved, stalled or what.
In my opinion, the case was stalled long before Kim Picazio and Cobra stepped foot in Putnam County. It stalled on Misty's refusal/unwillingness or whatever to give a coherent timeline to investigators.
To this day, they still have problems with her stories and the timeline.
You can't blame Cobra nor Kim Picazio for that.
IMO
HouseOfClark
05-23-2009, 03:51 PM
I find it odd that people aren't interested in discussing the very public claims made by Cobra on the radio interview regarding Crystal and Picazio. No discussion on the impact these claims might have on the credibility of both Crystal and Picazio?
Seems snipping at each other is the prime motivator here. Too bad.
I don't find it odd at all. You can't disbelieve Cobra one day and the next day believe everything he says, right?
Those are the very accusations I was asking about but got the usual snippy answers.
I'm very interested in how this is going to effect finding out what happened to Haleigh. It seems that there's been some lines drawn in the sand that will further confuse an already confusing mess.
If Crystal needs treatment, that's what she should do. Cobra claims she does and KP may be upset about that because of the custody issue.
MO
I think finding Haleigh took a back seat the day KP arrived in Satsuma.IMO
MrLucky917B
05-23-2009, 04:11 PM
I think finding Haleigh took a back seat the day KP arrived in Satsuma.IMO
I think that finding Haleigh took a back seat when TES said that Haleigh was not in the area and LE said they were calling off the search for now...
JMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 04:13 PM
Someone let me know if I got this wrong, please. Wasn't Cobra already in Satsuma to look for Haleigh, a missing child, THEN left to help the Grunds concerns with the Anthony's??
IIRC when he first came on the scene I thought it was because KP brought him. Then later he came up with the story about Rev. Grund. I really don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg! JMO
MrLucky917B
05-23-2009, 04:21 PM
IIRC when he first came on the scene I thought it was because KP brought him. Then later he came up with the story about Rev. Grund. I really don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg! JMO
Last night on NG they played a tape of Jessie saying it was lenny who put the idea in his Fathers mind that Casey was trying to pin it on Jessie. Cobra has already said that he met the Grunds through lenny, Cobra was in the area before KP came on the scene.
JMO
I think that finding Haleigh took a back seat when TES said that Haleigh was not in the area and LE said they were calling off the search for now...
JMO
TES didn't stay very long,but aside from that,I do think that KP took the focus off of Haleigh with her allegations against RC.The media and some posters loved it,but that didn't help Haleigh.IMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 04:31 PM
I think you have it covered.That is what I heard from the audio interview with Cobra.I will have to listen again to the audio from J.Sheffield because I 'caint' (lol) understand him very well.
Good question as to who the supporters of KP and Cobra will support now.I'm curious about that as well.
I think Cobra was in it for money and KP for fame.I never trusted KP from the start,and still can't make myself like or respect her even a little bit.Cobra is a loose cannon and that will be KP's downfall.IMO
Does anyone else,besides me, think that KP may have paid Cobra to slant the case in KP's(Crystal's) favor? This falling out is to do with that eight hundred dollars and Cobra has said more than once the phrase "signal any lane changes" He also has said that he won't take money from anyone that will try to tell him how to operate(Simon interview) IMO
Did I hear right that Connie is now paying Cobra?
Bolding mine.
I heard him say his mother-in-law, Ruby signed a contract with Cobra. Didn't hear him say anything about Connie paying. It would be interesting if he is being paid, what with him begging for donations.
Seems KP is trying to drive a wedge between CS and her family. Wonder if they will continue to help her prove the abuse claim.
I kinda feel sad for these people. I think they could be taken advantage of really easy. Probably first time in their life anyone has paid any attention to them. So sad that Little Haleigh is being used by so many people for self glorification.
Does anyone know who this person is that did the interview? What agency/company is he with?
JMO
Bolding mine.
I heard him say his mother-in-law, Ruby signed a contract with Cobra. Didn't hear him say anything about Connie paying. It would be interesting if he is being paid, what with him begging for donations.
Seems KP is trying to drive a wedge between CS and her family. Wonder if they will continue to help her prove the abuse claim.
I kinda feel sad for these people. I think they could be taken advantage of really easy. Probably first time in their life anyone has paid any attention to them. So sad that Little Haleigh is being used by so many people for self glorification.
Does anyone know who this person is that did the interview? What agency/company is he with?
JMO
Now that you mention it,I do recall hearing the mention of Ruby.I do need to listen to the audio again of J.Sheffield.I couldn't make out some of what he was saying.
I also got the feeling that KP was trying to create a divide with Crystal and her family.Probably so Crystal will only have KP to rely on.Yikes that is scary.
I feel sorry for Crystal because I do think she will be hurt in the end by KP.I think she may be innocent of some of deals going on in the background.I could be wrong,but that is what I think.
No idea of who the person was that did the interview.IMO
They, meaning LE.
Why is she walkng out of ONE interview? Shouldn't she be helping LE find Haleigh?
I agree that everyone should be helping LE to find Haleigh,but Misty does have the legal right to walk out of an interview.She wasn't under arrest.IMO
dustyk
05-23-2009, 04:56 PM
For the third time.....my concern is KP taking the focus off of Haleigh by making this a custody battle between Ron and Crystal.IMO
So that tells me you don't have much confidence in the PCSO...
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 05:02 PM
Heck, I just figured Peaches had something contagious, since ~texas~ starting posting in exacty the same style.
Post 177 & 178, this thread...
9:06 a.m.
9:07 a.m.
Post 179, 9:10 a.m., Peaches arrives.
I don't know how contagious it is, but I hope there is an immunization for it, because the ...............in the middle..........of every post.............is hard...........to..............read.
JMO
WOW MIMI, I am surprised by this post. What happened to the poster who chastised those accusing Beezle of posting with multiple nics? KWIM?:w00t:
All of the reincarnations and double nics who post on this subject should be held to the same standard if Coldwater has changed the rules. I think she's been pretty consistent regarding harassing posters without proof and only...... :blink:
But then again, I am guilty of using..... too and am not posting with any other nic. I'm glad Grace - new to the forum is able to cheer you on, but I still think you didn't like it when those accusations were levied against you, RIGHT OR WRONG IIRC, so why do this to PEACHES?:confused:
Good luck reading.
JMO
So that tells me you don't have much confidence in the PCSO...
Not sure what you mean.I think you are saying that LE should be able to function in spite of the antics of KP and Cobra? IMO
dustyk
05-23-2009, 05:09 PM
Not sure what you mean.I think you are saying that LE should be able to function in spite of the antics of KP and Cobra? IMO
exactly what I am saying...Most sherriff depts have a team of detectives on the case that focus on the case only...Surely they can handle distractions or they should get someone who can. If it were my child I would be demanding any information they have, yet the Cummings clan stays quiet. KP is the only one trying to shake them up.
lizzard
05-23-2009, 05:09 PM
Just asking? You can't be serious. You're just asking me if I'm a member of LE that is investigating this case when I just stated that I think they're a bunch of good ol' boys protecting their own? :huh:
I'm still waiting for YOUR answer to my question. Do you have one?
There seem to be a lot of questions not being answered today. I asked this generally earlier, but I'll put it to you specifically.
What, exactly, do you feel Cobra has contributed toward the search to find Haleigh?
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 05:15 PM
Who do you mean by "they"? Not to defend Misty,but.....I believe she walked out of one interview.IMO
That is the only thing I've heard as well cat. It was ALLEGEDLY when an investigator started belittling her, but I don't have the old link. :confused: JMO
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Not sure what you mean.I think you are saying that LE should be able to function in spite of the antics of KP and Cobra? IMO
I don't know Cat, but after hearing the short statement Kim made on SKYE, I am even more saddened by her involvement in the case of a missing child. It was the way she kept repeating "THE HALEIGH SHOW" that really sickened me. barf
I pray someone will find HALEIGH CUMMINGS :wub: every day. JMO
exactly what I am saying...Most sherriff depts have a team of detectives on the case that focus on the case only...Surely they can handle distractions or they should get someone who can. If it were my child I would be demanding any information they have, yet the Cummings clan stays quiet. KP is the only one trying to shake them up.
I do understand what you're saying,but.....LE has had to take time to answer to the media because KP and Cobra have brought attention to players in this case that LE have already dealt with and interviewed.
This is time that could be better used to focus on NEW information in the case,instead of having to rehash what they have moved on from.
None of this is helping Haleigh.
In regards to the Cummings staying quiet....I have heard,and I can't recall from who,perhaps Cobra,that RC calls LE everyday? We have no idea what they may or may not be doing to find Haleigh.
RC did make a video asking/plea for Haleigh's return.They hold weekly vigils.
KP is doing nothing but stirring the pot and getting her few minutes in the spotlight.She has brought nothing to this case but a whole lot of ugly.IMO
2boysMom
05-23-2009, 05:23 PM
Yes, she's been missing from Ron's trailer for over 3 mos now and LE isn't any closer to finding out what happened than they were in Feb.
Strange, that.
MO
my bold
I just gotta say this. Haleigh has been missing from HER HOME for 3 mos. Now doesn't that sound more respectful? I'm sure you didn't mean it the way it sounded, you were probably typing fast or something. And I don't think any of us know how close LE is to finding Haleigh, as they're not forthcoming with that information.
Peaches
05-23-2009, 05:27 PM
For the third time.....my concern is KP taking the focus off of Haleigh by making this a custody battle between Ron and Crystal.IMO
And, Cat3...........................ITA. KP has taken the focus off of Haleigh and made it a custody battle...................and to me, she loves to spread rumors. jmo
It is legal and it also tells me that she is more concerned with someone being "rude" to her than she is helping LE find Haleigh.
If she wasn't concerned she wouldn't even be talking to LE without an attorney.I can't believe I'm defending Misty,but she has interviewed with LE at least 10 times and you're angry because she left ONE interview.Maybe she IS doing the best she can to help find Haleigh.I can't even imagine the stress of having to talk to LE one time much less several times.IMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 05:30 PM
I will definitely put my trust in LE and all the side players need to stay out of the investigation and let those in LE do their job.
I do know I am so confused as to who is telling the truth in this mess. KP or Cobra? Maybe a tiny truth in each of them.
I ask last night if anyone had heard JS, was leaving Satsuma. He verified it today in his interview. Things getting to hot in Putnam County? Does not want to answer questions from LE about his daughter??? I can understand that, after all he is her father and to lie to LE about her drug use could give reason to be charged with obstruction of justice. Things are really heating up in Putnam County.:blink:
Didn't he also say he was never involved in dog fighting. But IIRC, there were court records where he was charged. Don't remember if he was convicted. Probably not. Seems most people pay a fine and that's it. JMO
I don't know Cat, but after hearing the short statement Kim made on SKYE, I am even more saddened by her involvement in the case of a missing child. It was the way she kept repeating "THE HALEIGH SHOW" that really sickened me. barf
I pray someone will find HALEIGH CUMMINGS :wub: every day. JMO
I'm sure it is all a show for KP.I feel sorry for the mess(victims) that will be left in her wake.IMO
Peaches
05-23-2009, 05:34 PM
That is the only thing I've heard as well cat. It was ALLEGEDLY when an investigator started belittling her, but I don't have the old link. :confused: JMO
Also..................I think that Misty said that she would talk with any investigate except this one man.
IF.................they had information as to her guilt, she would have been arrested. Misty has not obtained an attorney so it seems to me that she is not afraid to answer questions that she understands.
Since Misty has a limited education, she does not understand some words.......................I believe that this might contribute to there being inconsistences. She simply did not understand the question asked.
You all have heard this...............she just does not understand the question...................and often times says "I do not know."
Thanks CK for your post!:wub:
All jmoo
And, Cat3...........................ITA. KP has taken the focus off of Haleigh and made it a custody battle...................and to me, she loves to spread rumors. jmo
I still remember her glee when she talked about her scoop with WBG...lol
She was like a girl passing rumors in high school.Ugh....Imo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 05:40 PM
I will definitely put my trust in LE and all the side players need to stay out of the investigation and let those in LE do their job.
I do know I am so confused as to who is telling the truth in this mess. KP or Cobra? Maybe a tiny truth in each of them.
I ask last night if anyone had heard JS, was leaving Satsuma. He verified it today in his interview. Things getting to hot in Putnam County? Does not want to answer questions from LE about his daughter??? I can understand that, after all he is her father and to lie to LE about her drug use could give reason to be charged with obstruction of justice. Things are really heating up in Putnam County.:blink:
MOO is that KP should have looked closer into Crystal before yelling from the rooftop about Ron and what he did or didn't do. She is stuck..................and this is all good. Maybe she will stop talking about Ron and focus more on Haleigh!
Heating up...............good, I, like most of you want the person responsible punished................period ..................and end of story.
We just all do not think the same person is responsible. jmoo
Oh, please. Kim did not take Haleigh. Whoever did is the one who left the biggest "mess in their wake."
Of course whoever took Haleigh caused more of a mess than Picazio,but Picazio will leave some casualities as well.I think she already has.IMO
titanfan217
05-23-2009, 05:49 PM
It is legal and it also tells me that she is more concerned with someone being "rude" to her than she is helping LE find Haleigh.
I need a thanks button.
ITA. I wonder what her definition of "rude" is.
OMG, I remember that to. Well she did finally tell one truth about how she feels. This is the Haleigh Show, KP's words, not mine..
Dang this rain!!!!
Yes and the time she arched her brow when she talked about Ron.lol....funny stuff.IMO
lizzard
05-23-2009, 05:54 PM
Oh, please. Kim did not take Haleigh. Whoever did is the one who left the biggest "mess in their wake."
my bold
Has she been cleared?
janicetwin
05-23-2009, 05:55 PM
hi everyone i am new to this . iwas wondering if the LE talked with the guy who was caugt trying to take that 4yr girl from her house in FL about HALEIGH
Well, I'm more interested in finding out what happened to Haleigh than I am Kim Picazio.
I thought you said Haleigh should be the focus, my mistake.
Oh I am too........but I think today we have some news about Kim.You know how that is. It should be okay to discuss Kim as she is Crystal's attorney.IMO
MrLucky917B
05-23-2009, 05:58 PM
There seem to be a lot of questions not being answered today. I asked this generally earlier, but I'll put it to you specifically.
What, exactly, do you feel Cobra has contributed toward the search to find Haleigh?
A lot than lenny contributed to the search for Caylee
JMO
You are correct IMO, as the players grew, the less focus was on Haleigh.Who is this new guy doing the interview with Cobra and J. Sheffield?? Does this mean the players have decided and Cobra is standing along?? No Simon,Hart or AH???:unsure:
Not sure who the new guy is,but someone said that AH had up a new comment about Cobra(I haven't looked yet) and TJH did a small blip about Cobra saying KP didn't have clean hands,and yesterday at the Simon blogs,people seemed supportive of Cobra.IMO
lizzard
05-23-2009, 06:13 PM
A lot than lenny contributed to the search for Caylee
JMO
my bold
I have no idea what that means. "A lot than lenny"? What does lenny have to do with my question?
That was helpful.
Sure, I know how it is. It just seemed a bit counter-productive to complain about the focus being taken off of Haleigh and then focus on Kim Picazio.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't think that we are taking the focus totally off of Haleigh.I would venture to say that we all (on this board) care about Haleigh.
KP on the other hand.......IMO
I haven't checked yet either, maybe later, I have to decide,when, before or after I eat.
:confused:
Me too. O/T....I have to fix dinner and do some chores,so I'm out for a bit.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 06:24 PM
You are correct IMO, as the players grew, the less focus was on Haleigh.Who is this new guy doing the interview with Cobra and J. Sheffield?? Does this mean the players have decided and Cobra is standing along?? No Simon,Hart or AH???:unsure:
Hart has an interview with Cobra and KP, AH and Simon both have a write up. But I too, am trying to find out who the new guy is. I did notice his web page is under construction. I guess JS must know him, cause he asked him to write him a song!!! Just another person trying to hone in on the publicity of a poor missing child. JMO
Santa'sMom
05-23-2009, 06:26 PM
snipped for space:
Since Misty has a limited education, she does not understand some words.......................I believe that this might contribute to there being inconsistences. She simply did not understand the question asked.
You all have heard this...............she just does not understand the question...................and often times says "I do not know."
All jmoo
Having lived in that area for a couple of years, I think I can safely state that Putnam county LE has quite a bit of practice conversing with people who have a limited education and vocabulary. I am NOT trying to say that everyone there is an ignoramus, but there are a large contingency of the local population that has little ambition for much of anything, including obtaining an education. Certainly just my opinion but one that is based on first hand experience.
JackiBlu
05-23-2009, 06:27 PM
I don't think that we are taking the focus totally off of Haleigh.I would venture to say that we all (on this board) care about Haleigh.
KP on the other hand.......IMO
ITA cat. You know if those interviews would have been about Ron and Misty instead of the beloved Crystal and KP; it would have been just fine to start the Ron and Misty bashing again.
Talking about the main players in this case is not taking the focus off Haleigh. Just remember KP said this is the "Haleigh Show".
JMO
titanfan217
05-23-2009, 06:31 PM
my bold
Has she been cleared?
Did she know Haleigh before she went missing?
ITA cat. You know if those interviews would have been about Ron and Misty instead of the beloved Crystal and KP; it would have been just fine to start the Ron and Misty bashing again.
Talking about the main players in this case is not taking the focus off Haleigh. Just remember KP said this is the "Haleigh Show".
JMO
Yep....just about everyday is bash Ron and Misty day on the Haleigh board.You would think that they had been found guilty going by some of the posts.IMO
titanfan217
05-23-2009, 06:35 PM
Also..................I think that Misty said that she would talk with any investigate except this one man.
IF.................they had information as to her guilt, she would have been arrested. Misty has not obtained an attorney so it seems to me that she is not afraid to answer questions that she understands.
Since Misty has a limited education, she does not understand some words.......................I believe that this might contribute to there being inconsistences. She simply did not understand the question asked.
You all have heard this...............she just does not understand the question...................and often times says "I do not know."
Thanks CK for your post!:wub:
All jmoo
Simple. If you don't understand the question, you ask for an explanation.
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 06:36 PM
I do understand what you're saying,but.....LE has had to take time to answer to the media because KP and Cobra have brought attention to players in this case that LE have already dealt with and interviewed.
This is time that could be better used to focus on NEW information in the case,instead of having to rehash what they have moved on from.
None of this is helping Haleigh.
In regards to the Cummings staying quiet....I have heard,and I can't recall from who,perhaps Cobra,that RC calls LE everyday? We have no idea what they may or may not be doing to find Haleigh.
RC did make a video asking/plea for Haleigh's return.They hold weekly vigils.
KP is doing nothing but stirring the pot and getting her few minutes in the spotlight.She has brought nothing to this case but a whole lot of ugly.IMO
My bold
ITA with all you posted cat. But what I bolded is right on. With the rest of the outsiders running close seconds.
You can speak for me Haleigh is the subject, that makes KP attempting to make this a custody case wrong, just WRONG.....
I agree,and my take on the so called abuse is that KP has little evidence to back her claims.If she did she wouldn't be trying the case in the public eye.IMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 06:41 PM
I have to agree, another publicity seeker. But I was glad to get the fact J. Sheffield was moving,to Kentucky, I believe. Before it was just a rumor I had heard.
Can you imagine a man with a granddaughter missing asking someone to write a song about him?? Where is his heart for this child???
Wonder if CS believed him over KP. If that was me and my lawyer was trying to come between me and my dad, I would have told her to hit the road like yesterday. JMO
MrLucky917B
05-23-2009, 06:46 PM
my bold
I have no idea what that means. "A lot than lenny"? What does lenny have to do with my question?
That was helpful.
Didn't have time to edit my post I meant "a lot more than lenny"
My bold
ITA with all you posted cat. But what I bolded is right on. With the rest of the outsiders running close seconds.
It sure was hard reading some of the gushing about how great KP is/was.....because I have always had a different view about her.
I don't think she cares about Crystal,Haleigh or Jr.IMO
Hope Haleigh is found soon.IMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 06:46 PM
Oh, I doubt that she'll stop talking about Ron. She's in the middle of a custody case and claims to have a lot of evidence about Ron that she turned over to DCF. She won't and shouldn't stop talking about Ron.
MO
Dang, I thought....... KP..........said she wasn't doing a custody case??
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Well, I'm more interested in finding out what happened to Haleigh than I am Kim Picazio.
I thought you said Haleigh should be the focus, my mistake.
Do you have any more info about Haleigh that we haven't discussed??
Isn't Haleigh still the focus, even with talking about those surrounding the case??
:wink: Correct again, most of her witnesses IMO can not get off the drugs long enough to testify. I think she knows this by now and IMO her strategy has changed and it is no longer on Crystal and custody but, on Cobra and he is now her target. She will now be back in the media, just a different subject. KP needs to be careful,when you change a plan in midstream without a lot of thought it can come back to bite her in the azz....All MOO of course:lol:
I have no respect for her at all.I just hope the fallout won't cause as much harm to others as I think it will.IMO
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 06:51 PM
MO?? As long as KP does not pizz off Marie,KP will be OK, but I have a feeling Marie can be a handful when that barrel of apples gets turned over.
I would never want Marie to get on my case. JMO
I think Ron and Misty are responsible for what happened to Haleigh. That's not "bashing," it's mo on who is responsible.
You know that KP didn't take, or harm Haleigh, yet you continue to focus on, and post negative things about, KP, so it looks to me like you're the one doing the bashing. :ohmy:
MO
Well....if it disturbs you,I will refrain from posting any comments about KP......at least for a couple of hours.....lol......IMO
Scampi
05-23-2009, 06:55 PM
i think that finding haleigh took a back seat when tes said that haleigh was not in the area and le said they were calling off the search for now...
Jmo
A.............men!
lizzard
05-23-2009, 06:56 PM
Did she know Haleigh before she went missing?
I have no idea. Do you know?
bama__angel
05-23-2009, 07:00 PM
Since you agree, we all have a right to our on opinion, then let me give you mine. First I don't believe for a moment Ron or Misty had anything to do with Haleigh's abduction.MO
Second, I do believe KP has harmed the investigation of Haleigh with her side show. Now, that is harming Haleigh, BIG time.. She is destroying Haleigh's family with all her accusations. You may call that helping, I call it , cold and callous, hurting anyone getting in her way of winning this custody case she has brought out world wide..
What is the current status of the custody case? If you know, thank you for your answer.......IMO.....
lizzard
05-23-2009, 07:01 PM
Didn't have time to edit my post I meant "a lot more than lenny"
Okay, but what does that have to do with my question? I asked what, exactly, Cobra has contributed towards finding Haleigh. Cobra/Haleigh. Lenny/Caylee. Two different subjects.
imo
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 07:01 PM
It sure was hard reading some of the gushing about how great KP is/was.....because I have always had a different view about her.
I don't think she cares about Crystal,Haleigh or Jr.IMO
Hope Haleigh is found soon.IMO
Oh, I agree again, cat. I sure don't believe she is no where near being a J. Cochran, and I sure don't believe her glove fits.
Has she ever had her face on national tv before?? Anyone??
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 07:03 PM
Oh, I agree again, cat. I sure don't believe she is no where near being a J. Cochran, and I sure don't believe her glove fits.
Has she ever had her face on national tv before?? Anyone??
I don't know. The LAST time I saw her on TV, the other guests kinda came down on her and cut her off midway thru her speil. She didn't get much air time at all. JMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 07:05 PM
:blink: You did?
When did KP say that?
Sometime........ back........ then
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:14 PM
:wink: Correct again, most of her witnesses IMO can not get off the drugs long enough to testify. I think she knows this by now and IMO her strategy has changed and it is no longer on Crystal and custody but, on Cobra and he is now her target. She will now be back in the media, just a different subject. KP needs to be careful,when you change a plan in midstream without a lot of thought it can come back to bite her in the azz....All MOO of course:lol:
When I think of KP and CS, I remember that one day CS said something on national tv and the very next day another thing .................on the same subject...................with KP there beside her both times.
For a long time, you did not hear from either!
Even with all this..................I still am praying that Haleigh will be found alive and returned home to her family.
Prayers for Haleigh and all who love her this holiday week-end.
Everyone be safe as you travel........................peaches and as always jmoo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Dang, I thought....... KP..........said she wasn't doing a custody case??
Many times..................KP has said that her interest was making sure Ron, Jr. was safe. jmo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:17 PM
I have no respect for her at all.I just hope the fallout won't cause as much harm to others as I think it will.IMO
cat3, you and me both................ITA, no respect for KP..............moo is she was after media attention.
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Since you agree, we all have a right to our on opinion, then let me give you mine. First I don't believe for a moment Ron or Misty had anything to do with Haleigh's abduction.MO
Second, I do believe KP has harmed the investigation of Haleigh with her side show. Now, that is harming Haleigh, BIG time.. She is destroying Haleigh's family with all her accusations. You may call that helping, I call it , cold and callous, hurting anyone getting in her way of winning this custody case she has brought out world wide..
WOW! ITA with you entire post.
Let me say again because you said is so well:
She is destroying Haleigh's family with all her accusations. You may call that helping, I call it , cold and callous, hurting anyone getting in her way of winning this custody case she has brought out world wide......................jmoojmoo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:22 PM
I didn't know a custody case was filed. Can you help me find where you came up with that, please?
You are correct...............KP keeps saying that over and over while blasting Ron and making remarks about abuse of his children.
None of which has been proven................and none of which I believe!jmoo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:23 PM
Cat, I agree. I think DCFS and LE, now have her #..MO
moo is that many posters and those following this case do as well. And, it is not good.jmo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:27 PM
Has the DCYF responded with their findings yet?
To me.................the GREATEST response to all KP's ramblings is that Ron, Jr. is still with his father.
Weeds.............if there was any danger for this child, he would have been long gone.
jmo
Peaches
05-23-2009, 07:32 PM
TY peaches, I hope for Haleigh and JR., their parents wounds heal one day and all family members can give their love freely, without interference from outsiders. Time heals most wounds, I hope this is one of them.
MOHO is that Ron and Crystal could have asked for help as a united front except for Marie and KP's interference.
Also, this would have been good for Ron, Jr. who is suffering more than words can explain. jmoo
Marie will have much to answer for when Haleigh comes home. No matter how she felt about Ron and his family, she should have let all the snakes lie until together they found this precious baby.
Why start when this child goes missing? What had seen done to help remove her grandchildren from their father before? Not much IMOO--------------
OT..............Prayers for everyone traveling this holiday week-end.
bookie
05-23-2009, 07:48 PM
:blink: You did?
When did KP say that?
Sometime around St Patrick's Day.
Created: 3/17/2009 8:40:05 PM
Picazio said she does not intend to help Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, file for custody of the children at this time.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=134032
The next paragraph goes on to say she will wait for the DCF investigation to finish. And earlier this month she declined to say if she was going to file for custody.
"Picazio declined to say whether a custody case would be filed in court."
http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/149/DCF+still+investigating+Cummings+case
bookie
05-23-2009, 07:53 PM
When does the "Haleigh Show" begin around here? I hate to complain but I've been reading this thread off and on today, all I see is snipes between posters, dinner plans, and little about where this case stands after the recent events. For example, since Cobra's arrest, what role will LE now take? Will they comment on it? Is Cobra's usefulness over? etc. etc.
What usefulness? Police have said more than once that everything Cobra "found" they already knew about. All he has done is wreak havoc.
It was right after he and Johnny Sheffield handed "evidence" over to LE that police told people to stop searching. Now he's gone and gotten charged with a felony.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:00 PM
Has the DCYF responded with their findings yet?
DCF isn't going to respond with their findings. They don't release information involving minors to the public.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:01 PM
Sorry to have to ask, does anyone have a link to AH update of today, his comments. I never save his links. TIA
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#more-2049
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Thanks much, bookie.
Your welcome.
lizzard
05-23-2009, 08:12 PM
What usefulness? Police have said more than once that everything Cobra "found" they already knew about. All he has done is wreak havoc.
It was right after he and Johnny Sheffield handed "evidence" over to LE that police told people to stop searching. Now he's gone and gotten charged with a felony.
You got it, bookie. I keep asking for someone to tell me what Cobra has contributed, NO ANSWER, comes the loud reply.
Seems the bandwagon is losing passengers............. silently. Hope nobody got hurt jumping off.
IMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 08:13 PM
I'll believe it when I see a link. Got one?
I didn't know ?? question marks came with a link.
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 08:15 PM
Many times..................KP has said that her interest was making sure Ron, Jr. was safe. jmo
Thanks Peaches, thought I remembered something like that.
MrLucky917B
05-23-2009, 08:15 PM
What usefulness? Police have said more than once that everything Cobra "found" they already knew about. All he has done is wreak havoc.
It was right after he and Johnny Sheffield handed "evidence" over to LE that police told people to stop searching. Now he's gone and gotten charged with a felony.
LE did not want people searching very early in this case, it didn't start after Cobra arrived on the scene...
JMO
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:19 PM
LE did not want people searching very early in this case, it didn't start after Cobra arrived on the scene...
JMO
Actually yes it did. People were searching until a day or so after Cobra and Johnny's "find". In fact a search was planned for a day or 2 later but was called off after LE said no more private searches.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:21 PM
got a link for that? can you say rumor?
The "MOHO" at the beginning and the "IMOO" at the end indicate that the post is an opinion. Opinions don't require links.
I haven't been able to listen to J.Sheffield's video yet. Did he say when he's moving to Georgia? He was working with Cobra for awhile...does he still support Cobra now that Cobra has had his very public split with Picazio?
I am going to assume Jr. is still with Ron, given we've heard nothing to the contrary (and we would have). Wasn't the DCFS investigation supposed to have been completed by now? Crystal's departure from Satsuma was about the time the investigation was to be completed, and she went home without JR.
If Cobra is correct and Crystal is still doing drugs, I wonder what the outcome of child placement will be. Now that Picazio has opened the door, that leaves Crystal vulnerable as far as the baby is concerned, wouldn't you think? DCFS would be investigating the both of them in order to determine which was the more fit parent.
Which of the children was in the car with her when she had that accident...Chole? IF Cobra is correct about the drug use causing the seizures, and DCFS is aware of Crystal's drug use, could they take Chole away for child endangerment?
Never having done drugs or known anyone who did in and was involved with Social Services, I have no clue how they handle these kinds of problems.
Peaches
05-23-2009, 08:22 PM
got a link for that? can you say rumor?
Starlight! Welcome.............and you will notice that I posted everything with moo..........so no link.
It was just at the very beginning, Crystal and Ron seemed to be focused together with ONLY finding Haleigh............then things changed with Mare and KP in the middle............and again, Starlight, this is just my own opinion.
BTW...........there are not many facts in this case.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:22 PM
what is ronald cummings doing to find haleigh?
ya know, he can smoke while he searches.
Why leave Crystal out? She can search just as easily as Ron can.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:23 PM
rules say no rumors
It was clearly an opinion.
Peaches
05-23-2009, 08:24 PM
The "MOHO" at the beginning and the "IMOO" at the end indicate that the post is an opinion. Opinions don't require links.
Thanks, bookie. :thumbsup:
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 08:27 PM
Thanks for your help. In other words there is no custody case filed yet I take it.
I wonder why Johnny thinks otherwise...
http://writeintoaction.com/5-22-09%20writeintoaction.JohnnySheffieldInterview.mp3
JMO based on the interview with Johnny Sheffield.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:28 PM
I haven't been able to listen to J.Sheffield's video yet. Did he say when he's moving to Georgia? He was working with Cobra for awhile...does he still support Cobra now that Cobra has had his very public split with Picazio?
I am going to assume Jr. is still with Ron, given we've heard nothing to the contrary (and we would have). Wasn't the DCFS investigation supposed to have been completed by now? Crystal's departure from Satsuma was about the time the investigation was to be completed, and she went home without JR.
If Cobra is correct and Crystal is still doing drugs, I wonder what the outcome of child placement will be. Now that Picazio has opened the door, that leaves Crystal vulnerable as far as the baby is concerned, wouldn't you think? DCFS would be investigating the both of them in order to determine which was the more fit parent.
Which of the children was in the car with her when she had that accident...Chole? IF Cobra is correct about the drug use causing the seizures, and DCFS is aware of Crystal's drug use, could they take Chole away for child endangerment?
Never having done drugs or known anyone who did in and was involved with Social Services, I have no clue how they handle these kinds of problems.
Yes Chloe was in the car with Crytsal when she had the wreck. If DCF is aware of the drug use allegation they could make Crystal submit to drug testing. If positive then IMO yes they could remove Chloe.
Sheffield's youngest daughter, Chloe, was in the car at the time of the crash. She was not hurt, according to police.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19049608/detail.html
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:29 PM
I thought she is doing something to find haleigh.
and I never saw her smoking on TV.
I've never seen her do anything to find Haleigh. I did see Ron out physically searching but never Crystal.
CANDYKISSES
05-23-2009, 08:31 PM
link please?
rumors
Ironically the audio tape of Johnny Sheffield (FATHER OF CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD) indicates otherwise. There's always the possibility Johnny is lying, but it sounds like he knows enough to recognize who is calling and what they are doing. JMO and his too.
http://writeintoaction.com/5-22-09%20writeintoaction.JohnnySheffieldInterview.mp3
HE speaks about Kim calling him concerning the ALLEGED CUSTODY CASE and then later on about TALKING TO CRYSTAL to calm a RUMOR about his WIFE that allegedly came from KIM IIRC.
JMO tho.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:31 PM
Thanks, bookie. :thumbsup:
Your welcome.
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:32 PM
I thought she is doing something to find haleigh.
and I never saw her smoking on TV.
Opinions and speculations is what is discussed most of the time, especially when no new facts are released. If you are so concerned about what you are reading here today, I suggest you don't go back and read old Haleigh threads. As you will see the opinions posted on Ron also, and not as nicely worded as you see here on KP today. And while you are at it, read CW's post in the Haleigh section.
And what does smoking have to do with anything and why bring it up?
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 08:33 PM
I haven't been able to listen to J.Sheffield's video yet. Did he say when he's moving to Georgia? He was working with Cobra for awhile...does he still support Cobra now that Cobra has had his very public split with Picazio?
I am going to assume Jr. is still with Ron, given we've heard nothing to the contrary (and we would have). Wasn't the DCFS investigation supposed to have been completed by now? Crystal's departure from Satsuma was about the time the investigation was to be completed, and she went home without JR.
If Cobra is correct and Crystal is still doing drugs, I wonder what the outcome of child placement will be. Now that Picazio has opened the door, that leaves Crystal vulnerable as far as the baby is concerned, wouldn't you think? DCFS would be investigating the both of them in order to determine which was the more fit parent.
Which of the children was in the car with her when she had that accident...Chole? IF Cobra is correct about the drug use causing the seizures, and DCFS is aware of Crystal's drug use, could they take Chole away for child endangerment?
Never having done drugs or known anyone who did in and was involved with Social Services, I have no clue how they handle these kinds of problems.
I don't remember if he said when he was moving to GA. He is still in love with Cobra. They are both on the outs with KP.
There was something around the 60 day point that said the investigation was not complete yet. Chloe was the one in the car when the accident occurred. Don't know how DCFS will handle Cobra's claim of drug abuse. I think the war between KP and Cobra was upped a notch or two yesterday and today. Shoud be interesting in next week if any of the media outlets cover it. Blogger has said that none of the players will be available for his show tomorrow.JMO
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:34 PM
May I say.......damn your good bookie...MO as well as many others:thumbsup:
Thanks. A few things really stuck in my mind and that was one. Johnny Sheffield is former LE so why would he be stupid enough to move or touch anything that could possibly be evidence?
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 08:35 PM
I asked because you were the one that posted a custody case was FACT. Sorry you found that difficult to answer. It turns out from what other posters said, there is no custody case YET.
Oh, I think it is a custody case, KP to me is playing a game of words.
She knows how bad it would look on her to come out and say while Haleigh is missing. KWIM?
lizzard
05-23-2009, 08:36 PM
I didn't know ?? question marks came with a link.
New rules. They change as frequently as Cobra supporters do.
IMO
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:38 PM
he did? when? I started watching this case when he got married and after that no more ron and fibster in public. did they get married and go hide?
He helped TES search. He begged TES not to leave. Ron made a public plea for his daughter just last week so I don't know how you figure they are hiding.
Cummings asked Tim Miller, TES, to keep his team here and to continue looking, but Miller told Cummings they had to leave. “He was begging for us to stay, but I explained to him that we have other cases,” Miller said. “Let’s move forward, and if something comes up, we’ll come back.”
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/haleighs-father-asks-searchers-to-stay-and-help-him-search-for-his-daughter/
If you look around the internet you'll see pictures of Ron on horseback with TES searching.
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:42 PM
if I'm understanding you guys you are saying you can say whatever as long as you put its opinion.
is that right?
No, we cannot state anything as fact. But we can give our opinions on the people and the things we learn. Rumors are not opinions.
But honestly, what you are reading tonight is mild, MILD, compared to some nights. And I'm thankful it is.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 08:42 PM
dont you think le will need more than cobras claims of drug abuse? I think the doctor might have something to say about what meds crystal is taking . cobras not a doctor. and how would he know what she is taking.
jmo
I don't know about LE needing more than Cobra's claim of Drug abuse, but I sure would. Cobra has an ax to grind and I think some of the things he is saying is because he is mad at KP. This is so sad that the case of a missing little girl has come to a knock down, drag out fight among people who inserted themselves into it with less than noble intentions. I think LE sees thru all of this. I just hate that they have to deal with it and waste time that could be applied to finding Haleigh. JMO
bama__angel
05-23-2009, 08:43 PM
He helped TES search. He begged TES not to leave. Ron made a public plea for his daughter just last week so I don't know how you figure they are hiding.
Cummings asked Tim Miller, TES, to keep his team here and to continue looking, but Miller told Cummings they had to leave. “He was begging for us to stay, but I explained to him that we have other cases,” Miller said. “Let’s move forward, and if something comes up, we’ll come back.”
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/haleighs-father-asks-searchers-to-stay-and-help-him-search-for-his-daughter/
If you look around the internet you'll see pictures of Ron on horseback with TES searching.
I still have to wonder if LE told Tim Miller information that made him decide to pack up and go home while Ron was begging him to stay....Tim Miller had to be pretty sure that they wouldnt find Haleigh where they were looking....IMO
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:44 PM
why cant ron keep looking? he doesnt need tes to stay in town to look for haleigh. ron is the daddy. he can look if he wants too.
LE has stated that they want no private searches. And in most cases, LE does NOT want parents looking for the child alone. These are things you'd know if you read up on the links section though since you say you've been following the case.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 08:44 PM
was cobra fired from the case?
I don't know if he was ever hired! JMO
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 08:45 PM
LE did not want people searching very early in this case, it didn't start after Cobra arrived on the scene...
JMO
Wasn't that because of the time invested on that big drug bust?? My thinking is they didn't want anyone caught in the crossfires.
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:45 PM
I don't know about LE needing more than Cobra's claim of Drug abuse, but I sure would. Cobra has an ax to grind and I think some of the things he is saying is because he is mad at KP. This is so sad that the case of a missing little girl has come to a knock down, drag out fight among people who inserted themselves into it with less than noble intentions. I think LE sees thru all of this. I just hate that they have to deal with it and waste time that could be applied to finding Haleigh. JMO
ITA it is really ridiculous.
bookie
05-23-2009, 08:47 PM
why cant ron keep looking? he doesnt need tes to stay in town to look for haleigh. ron is the daddy. he can look if he wants too.
Not long after that LE told the public to stop searching.
http://crimesearchersonline.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Search-for-missing-Haleigh-Cummings-cancelled.html&Itemid=60
calamitygirl
05-23-2009, 08:47 PM
what is ronald cummings doing to find haleigh?
ya know, he can smoke while he searches.
And some of us can even smoke while posting all our opinions.
?noanswer
05-23-2009, 08:48 PM
I dont either. but then why was he there if he wasnt?
To hear him tell it, Haleigh is little girl. He's gonna spend an hour hugging her when he finds her before he lets Ron know. So he said. He keeps telling everyone how much it has cost him to search and begging for people to send him donations. JMO
carlybarly
05-23-2009, 08:49 PM
And some of us can even smoke while posting all our opinions.
LOL not me! We made the "no smoking in house rule" LOL.
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