Drew Peterson Thread

[rem16]

Bail is not reduced, Peterson remains in jail.

[summer4meplz]

Personally I think peterson is a huge flight risk......and I'm glad they have kept his bond high....

I am so disappointed that they are saying it isn't Lisa or Stacy's remains.....

[rem16]

Personally I think peterson is a huge flight risk......and I'm glad they have kept his bond high....

I am so disappointed that they are saying it isn't Lisa or Stacy's remains.....


They DID NOT SAY THAT..The results are not in as of yet, we can breathe easy.. :)

[rem16]

I could swear i read the same article that was put up on the other thread yesterday from the same newspaper.:confused:

I think some of these reports are confusing the autopsy results with the DNA test results that are coming in a week or two.

[PROPROS]

Personally I think peterson is a huge flight risk......and I'm glad they have kept his bond high....

I am so disappointed that they are saying it isn't Lisa or Stacy's remains.....I agree about him being a flight risk...Let him get used to being locked up...IMO, he is going to be spending the rest of his life incarcerated and rightly so!mo

[rem16]

I find it interesting that Brodsky has failed to show his face up in front of the media after todays hearing.
I wonder why he's so camera shy this afternoon.:shrug::biggrinjester:

What a wonderful way to start the holiday weekend, Brodsky-free..:tonguewag:

Jane Velez-Mitchell's show should be all over this..at 6:PM Central.

[KP1935]

He was on Chicago news channels running his mouth - he's ruined MY Memorial Day weekend! :laugh: - saying the prosecution will have to prove this allegation to keep DP in jail. Does he think the court is going to allow another hearing to argue a reduction in bail on the same thing the court has already ruled on? I think JB's goatee prohibits oxygen to his brain with some of the stupid things he says!

ETA: if they do force the prosecution to prove it and they do, JB will scream that releasing that information will taint the possible jury pool. Round and round we go JB!!!

[rem16]

I think JB's goatee prohibits oxygen to his brain with some of the stupid things he says!

:laugh::laugh:

[bchand]

Prosecutor: Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill third wife


(CNN) -- Former police officer Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill his third wife, a prosecutor in Will County, Illinois, said at a hearing Friday.

State's Attorney James Glasgow said during a bail reduction hearing Friday that Peterson tried to solicit a hit man for $25,000 to kill Kathleen Savio, press secretary Charles Pelkie said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/22/drew.peterson/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Guess Drew forgot to share this info with his attorney.

[Scampi]

Happy Holiday weekend everyone. Mike Galanos of Headline News - CNN reported that the prosecution has evidence dp attempted to hire a hit man to kill his wife. Hopefully JVM will have more on this. If true ole drew can kiss his chances of getting out on bond goodbye.

[Scampi]

Prosecutor: Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill third wife


(CNN) -- Former police officer Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill his third wife, a prosecutor in Will County, Illinois, said at a hearing Friday.

State's Attorney James Glasgow said during a bail reduction hearing Friday that Peterson tried to solicit a hit man for $25,000 to kill Kathleen Savio, press secretary Charles Pelkie said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/22/drew.peterson/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Guess Drew forgot to share this info with his attorney.

Hiya "Speedy!" :seeya:

[mrsmcgoo]

Bail is not reduced, Peterson remains in jail.

Great news!

He is enjoying himself in there anyway, forget his exact words, but he bragged about his bling and 3 squares so there ya go.

Glad the courts could oblige you Drew! :thumbsup:

JMO

[bchand]

Happy Holiday weekend everyone. Mike Galanos of Headline News - CNN reported that the prosecution has evidence dp attempted to hire a hit man to kill his wife. Hopefully JVM will have more on this. If true ole drew can kiss his chances of getting out on bond goodbye.

lol I just posted a link about it at the same time you were posting. :seeya:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/SpeedyGonzalez.jpg

[5boxersmom]

Great news!

He is enjoying himself in there anyway, forget his exact words, but he bragged about his bling and 3 squares so there ya go.

Glad the courts could oblige you Drew! :thumbsup:

JMO

Yep, he is right where he needs to be. :biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

Bail is not reduced, Peterson remains in jail.

Thanks for the thread. You pm box is full.

[Lrobert1]

They DID NOT SAY THAT..The results are not in as of yet, we can breathe easy.. :)

Thank goodness. I actually felt sick hearing it was neither.

Don't get me wrong, I wish Stacy or Lisa were alive and well somewhere in the world, but it's so unlikely. I just want closure for these families. And I felt like this so I can only just imagine how they must feel.

[rem16]

Thank goodness. I actually felt sick hearing it was neither.

Don't get me wrong, I wish Stacy or Lisa were alive and well somewhere in the world, but it's so unlikely. I just want closure for these families. And I felt like this so I can only just imagine how they must feel.

Ditto, I have a strong sense it's one of them.

[Scampi]

lol I just posted a link about it at the same time you were posting. :seeya:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/SpeedyGonzalez.jpg

LOL, ain't he cute!!

I think as time goes by, we're gonna see the prosecution wipe that grin off peterson face.

[Lrobert1]

Ditto, I have a strong sense it's one of them.

Same here, tbh. It's obviously someone who has been there a very long time and who's been missing just as long. :(

[rem16]

Thanks for the thread. You pm box is full.

You're welcome.. and thank you.:smile:

[trich]

In 1789, the same year that the Bill of rights were introduced, Congress passed the Judiciary Act. This specified which types of crimes were bailable and set bounds on the discretion of a judge in setting bail. The Act states that all noncapital offenses are bailable and that in capital cases the decision to detain a suspect, prior to trial, was to be left to the judge.

The Judiciary Arct states, "Upon all arrests in criminal cases, bail shall be admitted, except where punishment may be by death, in which cases it shall not be admitted but by the supreme or a circuit court, or by a justice of the supreme court, or a judge of a district court, who shall exercise their discretion therein."



That is in answer to those who would think a judge does not have the authority to deny bail.

[True2Blues]

Same here, tbh. It's obviously someone who has been there a very long time and who's been missing just as long. :(

An article yesterday said it would be two weeks before DNA is done, though I think they can do it faster than that. The article I read said the head and arms were missing. Did anyone else see that?

[rem16]

An article yesterday said it would be two weeks before DNA is done, though I think they can do it faster than that. The article I read said the head and arms were missing. Did anyone else see that?

Yes, that info was reported. There is only a partial skeletal torso and legs that were found, hence the need for DNA identification.

[PROPROS]

LOL, ain't he cute!!

I think as time goes by, we're gonna see the prosecution wipe that grin off peterson face.I read (somewhere) that he was far more "subdued" today....mo

[Lrobert1]

I read (somewhere) that he was far more "subdued" today....mo

Could reality finally be sinking into that warped mind of his?

[rem16]

I read (somewhere) that he was far more "subdued" today....mo

Yep, this pic tells the story, IMO.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/peterson-tried-to-hire-someone-to-kill-savio.html

[PROPROS]

Could reality finally be sinking into that warped mind of his?I don't care how cocky he acts....When the state puts a 20 million dollar bail on you (and it's upheld) that would give even the "cockiest" personality a big scare...After the bail hearing today, I'm sure he is thinking OMG I'm in serious deep,trouble!mo

[IM4Truth]

Prosecutor: Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill third wife


(CNN) -- Former police officer Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill his third wife, a prosecutor in Will County, Illinois, said at a hearing Friday.

State's Attorney James Glasgow said during a bail reduction hearing Friday that Peterson tried to solicit a hit man for $25,000 to kill Kathleen Savio, press secretary Charles Pelkie said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/22/drew.peterson/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Guess Drew forgot to share this info with his attorney.

I haven't followed this case as closely as I do another one, however, I found it very interesting at the very end of this article where Kathleen Savio's family speak of a $1 million life insurance policy that she had removed Drew's name and they didn't know if he knew she had removed it or not!

[rem16]

Too bad, Jane Velez-Mitchell is a taped show..::mellow:

[PROPROS]

Yep, this pic tells the story, IMO.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/peterson-tried-to-hire-someone-to-kill-savio.htmlThanks for the photo...I hadn't seen that...What no talk of bling and 3 squares today!!..mo

[IM4Truth]

Too bad, Jane Velez-Mitchell is a taped show..::mellow:

As will be NG.....Happy Memorial Day.

[rem16]

As will be NG.....Happy Memorial Day.

To you too..it is a satisfying feeling to know where DP will be spending his holiday. :biggrin:

[True2Blues]

Yes, that info was reported. There is only a partial skeletal torso and legs that were found, hence the need for DNA identification.

Thanks. I missed that until today.

[MissElainyS]

I have a gut feeling that Drew Peterson has killed people before and gotten away with it. I think that is why he is so comfortable offing his wives one at a time. I think he gets a charge out of killing and getting away with it, like a serial killer. He has a very warped personality and reminds me alot of Dennis Rader using his uniform and badge as a way to promote his superiority with his victims and then hide behind it. I tell you I think he has killed many people before he started on his wives.

[rem16]

I have a gut feeling that Drew Peterson has killed people before and gotten away with it. I think that is why he is so comfortable offing his wives one at a time. I think he gets a charge out of killing and getting away with it, like a serial killer. He has a very warped personality and reminds me alot of Dennis Rader using his uniform and badge as a way to promote his superiority with his victims and then hide behind it. I tell you I think he has killed many people before he started on his wives.

Very interesting analogy..I have watched specials on Dennis Rader, and he is beyond horrifying, the matter of fact way he talked about killing..:sad:

[Lrobert1]

I don't care how cocky he acts....When the state puts a 20 million dollar bail on you (and it's upheld) that would give even the "cockiest" personality a big scare...After the bail hearing today, I'm sure he is thinking OMG I'm in serious deep,trouble!mo

Possibly he's thinking of how much more trouble he is going to be in, if they've found Stacy. And ya know, he's the only one who knows where she was put so if this is her, he's got to be real worried now. IMO

It sure sucks for him...do the crime and pay the time!

[MissElainyS]

Very interesting analogy..I have watched specials on Dennis Rader, and he is beyond horrifying, the matter of fact way he talked about killing..:sad:

And if Drew Peterson ever had the oppportunity to cleanse himself and tell the truth, I would bet my last dollar that he would have the same demeanor. Cold as ice, calculating and almost as if he were talking about someone else or a movie he had seen. These two men are both chilling. They have alot in common.

[Lrobert1]

I have a gut feeling that Drew Peterson has killed people before and gotten away with it. I think that is why he is so comfortable offing his wives one at a time. I think he gets a charge out of killing and getting away with it, like a serial killer. He has a very warped personality and reminds me alot of Dennis Rader using his uniform and badge as a way to promote his superiority with his victims and then hide behind it. I tell you I think he has killed many people before he started on his wives.

Could be very possible he's done other horrific deeds.

It seems there's been a number of people/acquaintances (however close or far) that he knows that have either passed on and a few that are missing. One person that we didn't mention in the daily thread was Tom Morphey's wife who went missing over 10 years ago too.

I haven't seen anyone's life so full of events such as these.

IMO

[PROPROS]

Possibly he's thinking of how much more trouble he is going to be in, if they've found Stacy. And ya know, he's the only one who knows where she was put so if this is her, he's got to be real worried now. IMO

It sure sucks for him...do the crime and pay the time!I am praying that it is Stacy or Lisa...They have both been away from home far too long...But, whoever she is,I am glad that "she" has been found..mo

[MissElainyS]

Could be very possible he's done other horrific deeds.

It seems there's been a number of people/acquaintances (however close or far) that he knows that have either passed on and a few that are missing. One person that we didn't mention in the daily thread was Tom Morphey's wife who went missing over 10 years ago too.

I haven't seen anyone's life so full of events such as these.

IMO

If this is true and there are alot of people "gone missing" during the course of his adult life, then I would venture to guess that he has had plenty of practice making them "disappear without a trace" and this is the reason why he is so self assured when it comes to Stacy.

If Dianna (above) is right and he was able to plant guns to cover up or blame someone else for an on duty killing, then this explains alot, too. This guy just reminds me alot like Dennis Rader and also anyone who has ever watched the tv show The Shield will know that if you have people around you that are willing to lie for you, you can get away with anything.

[Lrobert1]

His step brothers wife went missing 10 years ago? I did not read that.
Tom Morphy was on GMA with a woman who claims to be the wife. Did she return or did he remarry.
She spoke of the night Drew offered him 2000 dollars to put that storage bin in his name and hold onto his cell phone at that bar, The night Tom tried to commit suicide. The same night he helped Drew move that blue barrel.

It was discussed at length in the old Stacy Peterson forums here that were removed, as well as on websleuths and findstacypeterson.com

http://www.westwoodone.com/pg/jsp/larryking/transcript.jsp;jsessionid=73A8AFB48580C890FC3852A0 7C9B3C42?pid=19590

BRODSKY: Well, absolutely. And it did not occur. Tomas Morphy (ph) is a very troubled individual. In looking at his past, he has multiple psychiatric admissions, he has multiple DUI convictions. His wife, by the way, Tom Morphy's wife vanished 10, 12 years ago without a trace.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

He's probably more angry than a reality check. He was really disappointed today when they found him out. Peterson is a sneaky conniving rat who thought he was untouchable. When Brodsky's mouth dropped Peterson didn't know whether to spit or go blind.
I don't believe Brodsky knew what he claims he knew when he was flapping his jaws again in front of the reporters. Just sayin.

Im with you Diana..I think Mr. Drew knows now the Pros. has far more info than he ever thought!! Me also thinks he NOW knows he is in deep ..C%% C%%,,That would explain his head down..and no Cawfawing going on..(no arrogance goin on today!!)

BTW, TY for the updates..have been unable to keep up..So TY to all who have kept me informed!!

LMS:wub:

[rem16]

Drew Peterson tried to pay $25,000 to have Kathleen Savio killed

May 22, 2009

BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter

A few months before his third wife drowned in a bathtub, Drew Peterson offered someone $25,000 to kill her, Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow contended today in court as he sought to keep Peterson jailed on murder charges in Kathleen Savio’s death.

And just three weeks before Savio’s 2004 death, Peterson — then a Bolingbrook cop — complained to another officer that his pending divorce would be so financially devastating that “my life would be easier if she were just dead,” Glasgow said.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1587229,drew-peterson-savio-murder-offer-money-052209.article

[Lrobert1]

Just finished with the link Lrobert1 and thank you for providing it. I had not seen LKL that night nor was I around at the time findstacypeterson.com was happening.
Thanx again...:seeya:

No problem! :smile:

[aproudmom]

Bail is not reduced, Peterson remains in jail.

OMG This is great news his lawyers felt he would be out this weekend guess no cookouts for him...does anyone know whats up with his fiance has she came to her senses

[rem16]

OMG This is great news his lawyers felt he would be out this weekend guess no cookouts for him...does anyone know whats up with his fiance has she came to her senses

Last I heard, her dad said that he feared if Drew were released, she would go running back to him.. so I guess she has NOT seen the light as of yet. :ohmy:

[Tokyo Rose]

I heard on a news show the body found is not Stacey or Lisa. That's not true is it?

[rem16]

This is the reason why Drew Peterson preferred the very young girls. They are very Naive and they have no fear. They believe everything a man will tell them. (including how fat and ugly, stupid and worthless they are)
People like Drew Peterson goes straight for the self esteem and before they know it they are getting beat up, run down and murdered. Any mature woman his age would tell him to kiss off and she'd be gone.

ITA, and when Kathleen saw the light and wanted to get away, even telling people that if something happened to her, to look at Drew..he still got away with it, IMO..UNTIL NOW! This sick chain must be broken.

[*Spike*]

I heard on a news show the body found is not Stacey or Lisa. That's not true is it?


i dont believe they really know yet but i could be wrong. JMO

[*Spike*]

Last I heard, her dad said that he feared if Drew were released, she would go running back to him.. so I guess she has NOT seen the light as of yet. :ohmy:

well i wish she would see the light & quick. he's an evil man.

[iluvmua]

somebody said on the other DP board that the remains are neither Stacy's or Lisa's per HLN Prime News.

How would LE know for sure if they are still doing DNA testing on the remains?

[*Spike*]

somebody said on the other DP board that the remains are neither Stacy's or Lisa's per HLN Prime News.

How would LE know for sure if they are still doing DNA testing on the remains?

thats what i'm thinking also. i dont know.

[rem16]

somebody said on the other DP board that the remains are neither Stacy's or Lisa's per HLN Prime News.

How would LE know for sure if they are still doing DNA testing on the remains?

The DNA results are not in yet. They must have been talking about the autopsy.

[iluvmua]

so is it still possible that it could be Stacy or Lisa?

[rem16]

so is it still possible that it could be Stacy or Lisa?

Indeed it is.

[iluvmua]

I really hope it's Stacy or Lisa. Both of these families need closure.

Lisa had kids right?

[sunstar]

Drew Peterson tried to pay $25,000 to have Kathleen Savio killed

May 22, 2009

BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter

A few months before his third wife drowned in a bathtub, Drew Peterson offered someone $25,000 to kill her, Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow contended today in court as he sought to keep Peterson jailed on murder charges in Kathleen Savio’s death.

And just three weeks before Savio’s 2004 death, Peterson — then a Bolingbrook cop — complained to another officer that his pending divorce would be so financially devastating that “my life would be easier if she were just dead,” Glasgow said.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1587229,drew-peterson-savio-murder-offer-money-052209.article
Well, isn't this the most coincidental thing I've seen. I just wonder if Stacy took that very same $25,000.00 when she ran away with her bikini and passport??? (according to Drew, that is) :scared:

[sunstar]

so is it still possible that it could be Stacy or Lisa?

That's what I understand. They have to use DNA since there is no head (dental records), hands (fingerprints).

[aproudmom]

Prosecutor: Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill third wife


(CNN) -- Former police officer Drew Peterson tried to hire a hit man to kill his third wife, a prosecutor in Will County, Illinois, said at a hearing Friday.

State's Attorney James Glasgow said during a bail reduction hearing Friday that Peterson tried to solicit a hit man for $25,000 to kill Kathleen Savio, press secretary Charles Pelkie said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/22/drew.peterson/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Guess Drew forgot to share this info with his attorney.

I have always wondered if someone else killed her or if he at least tried to get someone to kill her..my question is if this is true why was it never told to even the family..if he told a cop friend why did these people not come forward sooner so this monster was put away long before now..

[drip~drop1]

I find it interesting that Brodsky has failed to show his face up in front of the media after todays hearing.
I wonder why he's so camera shy this afternoon.:shrug::biggrinjester:

I think he was on NBC tonight.
I'll try to check to see if it's online.

[drip~drop1]

Personally I think peterson is a huge flight risk......and I'm glad they have kept his bond high....

I am so disappointed that they are saying it isn't Lisa or Stacy's remains.....

:confused:

[Lrobert1]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7656456&page=1

Not sure if this has mentioned, but note:

In addition, the state told the court that Peterson knew fact of the case that only the killer would know.

[drip~drop1]

He was on Chicago news channels running his mouth - he's ruined MY Memorial Day weekend! :laugh: - saying the prosecution will have to prove this allegation to keep DP in jail. Does he think the court is going to allow another hearing to argue a reduction in bail on the same thing the court has already ruled on? I think JB's goatee prohibits oxygen to his brain with some of the stupid things he says!

ETA: if they do force the prosecution to prove it and they do, JB will scream that releasing that information will taint the possible jury pool. Round and round we go JB!!!

I'm glad you saw it too. At least dp is where he needs to be. IMO
Did ya happen to see Brodsky literally puff up as he approached the cameras?:lol:

[FallenAngel♥]

Personally I think peterson is a huge flight risk......and I'm glad they have kept his bond high....

I am so disappointed that they are saying it isn't Lisa or Stacy's remains.....

TY for the update i didn't know they got the dna back or had said it wasn't them :(

I hope they found out who she is so her family can have a sense of peace

[sunstar]

TY for the update i didn't know they got the dna back or had said it wasn't them :(

I hope they found out who she is so her family can have a sense of peace

This article posted today indicates they are waiting for DNA matches:

"The office of Will County Coroner Patrick K. O'Neil said the body -- which many believe could be that of either Peterson's missing fourth wife Stacy -- was clad in only women's underwear and shreds of blue jeans that held a small amount of money.

Since the corpse lacks a head, hands or feet, it has complicated identifying the body through dental records or prints.

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's office said.

The lack of skin has made it more difficult to obtain DNA. A coroner and a forensic anthropologist are working together to confirm the gender of the corpse and are expected to test the bone marrow to try and identify the remains, sources told ABC News affiliate WLS's Amy Jacobson.

The coroner's office said it will take at least two weeks to obtain the DNA and determine its match.

They are also trying to determine whether the head was severed before or after death, O'Neil said. Police are also searching for the body's head and other body parts.

Though officials acknowledge the body could be someone else's the similarities between Stacy Peterson and another missing woman, Lisa Stebic, are numerous. Both are of similar height and weight and both have had Cesearan sections after giving birth. They also disappeared within months of each other.

The discovery Wednesday of the decomposing body near Peterson's Illinois home has the potential to blow huge holes in his claim that his fourth wife simply ran off with another man.

Peterson, a former police sergeant, sits in jail on charges he murdered his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

But Stacy Peterson wasn't the only local woman who disappeared in 2007. Lisa Stebic, a mother from nearby Plainfield, Ill., disappeared in April 2007."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7656456&page=1

[rem16]

TY for the update i didn't know they got the dna back or had said it wasn't them :(

I hope they found out who she is so her family can have a sense of peace

That report is erroneous.. The DNA results are NOT back as of yet..

[drip~drop1]

I don't care how cocky he acts....When the state puts a 20 million dollar bail on you (and it's upheld) that would give even the "cockiest" personality a big scare...After the bail hearing today, I'm sure he is thinking OMG I'm in serious deep,trouble!mo

he had to realize that one day the jig would be up and now seems to be the time.
I bet lot's of stories come out as the weeks go by.
mo

[drip~drop1]

I haven't followed this case as closely as I do another one, however, I found it very interesting at the very end of this article where Kathleen Savio's family speak of a $1 million life insurance policy that she had removed Drew's name and they didn't know if he knew she had removed it or not!

Kitty took him off and put her 2 boys on.
dp earlier claimed that he already knew she had done that.
I wonder if the money was put in a trust he couldn't touch and if he could, what is left.
the poor kids, all 4 of them having to live with all this.:cryingmo

[drip~drop1]

I have a gut feeling that Drew Peterson has killed people before and gotten away with it. I think that is why he is so comfortable offing his wives one at a time. I think he gets a charge out of killing and getting away with it, like a serial killer. He has a very warped personality and reminds me alot of Dennis Rader using his uniform and badge as a way to promote his superiority with his victims and then hide behind it. I tell you I think he has killed many people before he started on his wives.

i totally agree with you.

[rem16]

he had to realize that one day the jig would be up and now seems to be the time.
I bet lot's of stories come out as the weeks go by.
mo

ITA..and what's really scary is that DP was in LAW ENFORCEMENT! He had all that power to throw around. And I would guess he did, in ways I wouldn't want to experience, IMO. How he could think anyone but a naive young girl would find him at all likeable, is beyond me. A sociopath of the highest order.

I feel for his children.

Greta's show is covering this now..

[drip~drop1]

I heard on a news show the body found is not Stacey or Lisa. That's not true is it?

they do not know who the remains belong to as of yet.
could be Stacy or Lisa or somebody else.
With the blue barrel close by, I'm thinking Stacy.
Also with the body was some tattered jean and tattered money.

[sunstar]

they do not know who the remains belong to as of yet.
could be Stacy or Lisa or somebody else.
With the blue barrel close by, I'm thinking Stacy.
Also with the body was some tattered jean and tattered money.

Wasn't another blue barrel found some time ago in the water? I'm remembering something about that but not the details or exactly where it was. :confused:

[rem16]

Wasn't another blue barrel found some time ago in the water? I'm remembering something about that but not the details or exactly where it was. :confused:

I did hear on the news that the barrel found near where the remains were found, is not the one they are looking for. Apparently there are many barrels in the river. :sad:

[drip~drop1]

Wasn't another blue barrel found some time ago in the water? I'm remembering something about that but not the details or exactly where it was. :confused:

I'm looking and so far can't find that.

[drip~drop1]

ITA..and what's really scary is that DP was in LAW ENFORCEMENT! He had all that power to throw around. And I would guess he did, in ways I wouldn't want to experience, IMO. How he could think anyone but a naive young girl would find him at all likeable, is beyond me. A sociopath of the highest order.

I feel for his children.

Greta's show is covering this now..

There are the very good cops and the very bad ones. dp fits the latter.
I wonder if his pension gets mailed to the jail now?:glare:

ETA dp threw his money and toys around to bait the girls in. He preys on the weak. imo

[sunstar]

I did hear on the news that the barrel found near where the remains were found, is not the one they are looking for. Apparently there are many barrels in the river. :sad:
(bolding mine)

That's what I'm thinking too. :sad:

[sunstar]

I'm looking and so far can't find that.

I found it!! I guess I was wrong about the water, but it was 01/25/08 and talked about on Nancy's show.

MARY FRANCES BRAGIEL, WBBM NEWSRADIO 780: Basically, we are awaiting an autopsy, which we`re not expecting to get the results from until tomorrow on this. But as you said, it was a -- it was a village (ph) inspection worker from a suburb called Lyons (ph), which Lyons is not far from Bolingbrook, which is where Drew and Stacy Peterson shared their home.

And apparently, he was conducting his daily inspection, and he came across a foot and a leg that appeared to be very decomposed near this, what they say is a blue barrel. So that`s all police will tell us at this point. We have no idea if it`s male or female. An autopsy will be conducted tomorrow.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0801/25/ng.01.html

[Mayasmimi]

Very interesting analogy..I have watched specials on Dennis Rader, and he is beyond horrifying, the matter of fact way he talked about killing..:sad:

Has long been discussed. I agree. This man is capable of anything. No soul. I doubt Kathleen and Stacy were his first....IMO.

[BobbysGirl]

Has long been discussed. I agree. This man is capable of anything. No soul. I doubt Kathleen and Stacy were his first....IMO.

Hi YA Maya! LTNS

I agree. No soul. No telling what that man is capable of. He is scary to me. And a bit nuts. IMO
I saw him in video, in his orange jump suit and bling. No sound, but real weird staring up in the sky and mouthing words. Gave me the creeps.

BG (huggers)

[rem16]

Hi YA Maya! LTNS

I agree. No soul. No telling what that man is capable of. He is scary to me. And a bit nuts. IMO
I saw him in video, in his orange jump suit and bling. No sound, but real weird staring up in the sky and mouthing words. Gave me the creeps.

BG (huggers)

Yes, that day he was shouting up to the many reporters on the roof. Didn't want to disappoint his subjects..:w00t: Very creepy.

[BobbysGirl]

Yes, that day he was shouting up to the many reporters on the roof. Didn't want to disappoint his subjects..:w00t: Very creepy.

So that what it was. Oh my. I thought he was talking to God. Not being sarcastic here. Sumptin' wrong with him. His day is now here. And I don't see him getting bonded out anytime soon.

[aproudmom]

He was on Chicago news channels running his mouth - he's ruined MY Memorial Day weekend! :laugh: - saying the prosecution will have to prove this allegation to keep DP in jail. Does he think the court is going to allow another hearing to argue a reduction in bail on the same thing the court has already ruled on? I think JB's goatee prohibits oxygen to his brain with some of the stupid things he says!
ETA: if they do force the prosecution to prove it and they do, JB will scream that releasing that information will taint the possible jury pool. Round and round we go JB!!!

my bolding

OMG that is so true...:thumbsup:

[aproudmom]

Two judges seemed to think 20 million dollars was adequate to keep his happy a$$ in jail. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Brodsky and Peterson got a chance to talk after the hearing. He was probably smug about what the prosecutors discovered. I wonder who he wanted to pay to kill Kathleen?:glare:
It had to be someone he thought he could trust unless he is just really dumb.JMO

my bolding
Had to laugh at this one Dianna yes he is really dumb and it is finally catching up to him..:tonguewag:

OK to all my fellow women poster get ready they do not like it that they got a women Judge..seems all of them don't like women to well..I really think JB and DP may wanna shut their traps on a women being the judge even though I think she will do her job just like a male..we all know they will try to say Poor Drew he ended up with a women Judge just cause the Pros did not want the other one...:rolleyes:

[aproudmom]

I did hear on the news that the barrel found near where the remains were found, is not the one they are looking for. Apparently there are many barrels in the river. :sad:

heard the same thing even up to a few months ago they found one which did end up being nothing..heard it is a dumping ground for lots of things..last I heard this barrel or tub was one mile or about a mile from where the remains were found...is that what everyone else heard?

[kellabeck]

Just catching up with the news and learning that contrary to DrewP's smugly confident belief, his bail was NOT reduced and he is STILL behind bars (YAY!!)

And I hear that DrewP tried to get someone to kill Kathleen for $$$. Since we believe he did it himself, can we conclude that person refused?

If that's true and if only that person had gone to LE back then, Kathleen would be alive today and so would Stacy. And DrewP would have enjoyed the last few years behind bars instead of in charge of some impressionable innocent children.

[trich]

Two judges seemed to think 20 million dollars was adequate to keep his happy a$$ in jail. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Brodsky and Peterson got a chance to talk after the hearing. He was probably smug about what the prosecutors discovered. I wonder who he wanted to pay to kill Kathleen?:glare:
It had to be someone he thought he could trust unless he is just really dumb.
JMO

I think he is just so arrogant that he figured nobody would dare
report such.
He had/has gotten away with so much for so long IMO that he never figured it would come back to bite him on the "butt".
I also find the idea that joking around is his way of dealing .....yeah right.
It is just more proof of his self serving attitude.
He is the worst of the worst and I will never understand why young women are stupid enough to fall for him.....he is not even a nice looking
man.
How does anyone get involved with a man twice their age, been married so many times and under suspicion for killing one and maybe two.
Talk about a mother's nightmare if your daughter was attracted to him.

[Lrobert1]

It's very likely that DP was denied bail and a bail reduction yesterday partly because of the money that he would use to bail himself out. Most of his money I am sure is from Kathleen's life insurance, etc. Would seem wrong for him to be indicted for her death, while using her life insurance and what-not to bail himself out. IMO

[Lrobert1]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson-bond-23may23,0,7228690.story

Glasgow did provide other details -- confirming a Chicago Tribune report that the state has hired a financial expert to determine how much Peterson stood to lose in his divorce with Savio. Glasgow said $60,000 was missing -- in violation of the divorce judge's order -- from a "bank account" that held cash from the sale of the Petersons' Montgomery bar. That money was to be split between the parties, he said.

[vonna]

Is he not collecting Kathleens S/S for their two children, too.:confused:
JMO

Good morning, Dianna. It was almost the perfect crime, wasn't it???

[Lrobert1]

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1587227,peterson-bond-murder_jo052209.article

By killing Savio, Peterson saved himself from paying her $200,000, plus half the proceeds from the sale of their home, alimony and child support for their two sons. Her death also cleared the way for his children to receive monthly Social Security payments and to collect on a $1 million insurance policy, which Peterson can use for "extraordinary expenses" and to pay for the boys' educations.

Glasgow said Peterson needed the money at the time because of his much younger fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, whom he "wooed" with his wealth. But now the cash would be funneled toward getting him out of jail.

"The source of bail in this case would come from blood money from Kathleen Savio," Glasgow said.

Judge Carla Alessio Policandriotes apparently agreed, as she refused to lower Peterson's bond. Peterson's attorneys say they will immediately appeal the decision.

[Lrobert1]

Good morning, Dianna. It was almost the perfect crime, wasn't it???

Almost, but the guy never stopped talking. He got too many others involved which runs the risk of them talking, contradictory statements later when questioned, etc. IMO

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7656456&page=1


In addition, the state told the court that Peterson knew fact of the case that only the killer would know.

I'd love to know what fact that this was.

[summer4meplz]

do you remember one of peterson's "friends" that posed as a girl named ashley online and got drew to "fall in love" with "her" ? I can't for the life of me remember the guys name.....

[Lrobert1]

do you remember one of peterson's "friends" that posed as a girl named ashley online and got drew to "fall in love" with "her" ? I can't for the life of me remember the guys name.....

http://www.mahalo.com/Drew_Peterson_Ashley

[summer4meplz]

http://www.mahalo.com/Drew_Peterson_Ashley


thanks so much for the link...you are awesome....wow...i've forgotten so much........lenny and paula.....

[Lrobert1]

thanks so much for the link...you are awesome....wow...i've forgotten so much........lenny and paula.....

I've missed a bunch of news last year as I was involved in other things, such as pregnancy, and there wasn't much news regarding DP. I was beginning to lose hope that he'd be arrested. :)

Here's some You Tube videos of Paula and Lenny:
http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_lenny_and_paula.htm

[amb40]

Just catching up with the news and learning that contrary to DrewP's smugly confident belief, his bail was NOT reduced and he is STILL behind bars (YAY!!)

And I hear that DrewP tried to get someone to kill Kathleen for $$$. Since we believe he did it himself, can we conclude that person refused?

If that's true and if only that person had gone to LE back then, Kathleen would be alive today and so would Stacy. And DrewP would have enjoyed the last few years behind bars instead of in charge of some impressionable innocent children.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/22/drew.peterson/index.html?section=cnn_latest
That scumbag hired a hitman on Kathy Savio so you know he killed poor Stacy!! What a pompous piece of garbage he is...He didn't fool every:thumbdown:one!

[bkwits]

I watched a clip this morning from awhile back when Peterson and Brodsky were on LKL. That was within the time they said he fell in love with some Internet "Ashley" but it was a friend (male) of his all along. Apparently Drew Peterson told "Ashley" he would be on LKL and he would give Ashley a sign to show his love.
They showed Peterson's sign and he reached up to his ear and pulled it. What a fool! I would think he would be so embarrassed when he discovered it was a man he was so passionate with. LOL
In any event, there were some neighbors or friends he had known for over 16 years who were allegedly wired every time they got together and Drew messed up quite a few times when talking about Stacy.
One thing he said that really stuck out was, he was confident he would be acquitted if there was an arrest and trial and if they found Stacy's "remains" it wouldn't make any difference in light of his acquittal. (too late)
There is numerous testimony coming out from these people. Drew knows about this and says he is not worried in the least. That's what he said before they arrested him for murdering Kathleen, however.
JMO

That is hilarious LOL

MY DIL works with a woman who used to know Kathleen and Drew. She and her husband (then boyfriend) used to hang at the bar they owned. This woman said that when Kathleen died, everyone there thought that Drew did it. Tom Morphey also said to Drew, "We always thought you killed Kitty" (Paraphase).

I live 30 miles from DrewP's home. I'm glad he is further away now. But everyone around here has heard of him and they all think he did it (at least everyone I've talked to).

IMO

[sunstar]

That is hilarious LOL

MY DIL works with a woman who used to know Kathleen and Drew. She and her husband (then boyfriend) used to hang at the bar they owned. This woman said that when Kathleen died, everyone there thought that Drew did it. Tom Morphey also said to Drew, "We always thought you killed Kitty" (Paraphase).

I live 30 miles from DrewP's home. I'm glad he is further away now. But everyone around here has heard of him and they all think he did it (at least everyone I've talked to).

IMO
Very interesting, bkwits! Now it has me wondering just where DP is going to get his "fair trial"! Any counties come to mind that the trial would get moved to ~ if it does?

[kellabeck]

How does one plaster oneself all over the media (see Anthony family and Peterson and Brodsky) and then claim media exposure precludes a fair trial??
Isn't that like killing your parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court because you're an orphan?

[sunstar]

How does one plaster oneself all over the media (see Anthony family and Peterson and Brodsky) and then claim media exposure precludes a fair trial??
Isn't that like killing your parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court because you're an orphan?

Good comparison, kellabeck! If not for Drew, the camera hog, himself, I wonder just how much media coverage Stacy's disappearance and likewise Kathleen's death would've gotten.

[amb40]

Good comparison, kellabeck! If not for Drew, the camera hog, himself, I wonder just how much media coverage Stacy's disappearance and likewise Kathleen's death would've gotten.


No one likes Drew more than Drew himself.:lol:

[sunstar]

No one likes Drew more than Drew himself.:lol:

He's his own worst enemy! MOO

[akelly1999]

Did u ppl notice how stupid drew peterson acted when he was taken out of that van into court? looking up and smiling like some kind of nut case. I think he's finally getting his justice. a man who goes around trying to find a hit man and then does the dasterdly deed himself.
wonder if the skeletal remains found will be his wife's? even if theyre not we know something had to have happened to her. how did this man ever become a policeman and kept on the force? unbelievable.JMO:tongueside:

[~jomomma~]

ha ha! remember the night, i think it was greta was reporting from outside drew's house and he was inside the house making the alarm on his car go off?

what an idiot! :lol:

[rem16]

Do any of you very informed people know what the next court date would be, or what comes next in this case?

If so, thanks for filling me in. I am only following this a little, and don't listen to all the media reports about him. I sure hope he's in jail for the rest of his natural life, once convicted.

I'm not sure when the next court date is, but here is an excerpt from a CBS article..

"In court Friday, Brodsky asked the judge if she was considering recusing herself from the case because of her past involvements in Peterson's divorce case from Kathleen Savio. The judge chose to stay onboard.

The defense has nine more days to decide if they want to have her removed from the case."

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.hitman.2.1017001.html

[penguin01]

HLN says once again that the autopsy clearly shows that remains are neither Stacy nor Lisa. I kinow several posters have said this info is incorrect. Are we sure? Or are we just still wishing?
An autopsy would show right away, for instance, if the remains are from a young woman who has not had children. ..... that would rule out both Stacy and Lisa. I'm sure there are other things that would make it clear it is not them - without waiting for DNA.

[sunstar]

HLN says once again that the autopsy clearly shows that remains are neither Stacy nor Lisa. I kinow several posters have said this info is incorrect. Are we sure? Or are we just still wishing?
An autopsy would show right away, for instance, if the remains are from a young woman who has not had children. ..... that would rule out both Stacy and Lisa. I'm sure there are other things that would make it clear it is not them - without waiting for DNA.

I just went to cnn.com and found this as the latest update ~ from yesterday. It also says DNA testing will take two weeks.

Autopsy can't link remains to missing women

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/21/illinois.body.found/index.html

[penguin01]

I remember them saying they needed to get DNA in order to make a determination and that it would take a few weeks. Today is Saturday and I think we should wait until sometime Monday. We will definitely get a current update. This information does not make sense because we all heard the same thing. Just sayin...:sad: Why does it not make sense? I hate it, but it makes sense to me. I know they announced they needed DNA - but that was before the autopsy. There may be information in the autopsy sufficient to know.
Well anyway - CNN apparently thinks it makes sense and they are not being reticent in the least about getting the information out. They'll owe the families a very, very big mea culpa if they are wrong, so I have to figure they have checked their facts. The link upthread is a CNN report published Fri around 10 am. - HLN came out with their update last night didn't they?

[~jomomma~]

Why does it not make sense? I hate it, but it makes sense to me. I know they announced they needed DNA - but that was before the autopsy. There may be information in the autopsy sufficient to know.
Well anyway - CNN apparently thinks it makes sense and they are not being reticent in the least about getting the information out. They'll owe the families a very, very big mea culpa if they are wrong, so I have to figure they have checked their facts. The link upthread is a CNN report published Fri around 10 am. - HLN came out with their update last night didn't they?

could it have been a repeat of Mike Galanos (sp) you saw??? i know he was the only one we heard that from.

[dref99]

HLN says once again that the autopsy clearly shows that remains are neither Stacy nor Lisa. I kinow several posters have said this info is incorrect. Are we sure? Or are we just still wishing?
An autopsy would show right away, for instance, if the remains are from a young woman who has not had children. ..... that would rule out both Stacy and Lisa. I'm sure there are other things that would make it clear it is not them - without waiting for DNA.

No-one else seems to be saying who it is, or who it is not - CNN had a not very smart headline
Autopsy can't link remains to missing women but it included this item
A statement issued by O'Neil's office said a forensic examination was inconclusive as to identity, race or sex of the body parts, which consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones. If they can't identify sex, then having children is irrevelvant.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/21/illinois.body.found/index.html#cnnSTCText

Everything I have read says the autopsy can't link the remains to anyone. dna is required.

jmo

[Lrobert1]

Has anyone noticed how strong the resemblance is with Peterson and Brodsky. They could pass for brothers. Their disposition is a lot alike, too.
Peterson never figured he would be up for murder charges and in the tight predicament he's in right now. He thought he was untouchable and was sure no one could prove anything on his little murder schemes.
Brodsky indirectly said it himself. Now they're both scratching their heads.
Peterson was complaining about Kathleen getting part of "their" little pot of gold. When all is said and done Peterson will have zero, his life is completely over and all as a result of lust and greed.

Stacy is another issue. I believe Drew Peterson was actually in love with her and he was insanely jealous and was not capable of trusting her. (If you can't trust yourself you can't trust anyone else)
When he learned Stacy was going to leave him he took his own law into his hands and decided "If I can't have you, than nobody can."
Drew Peterson thought he got away with Kathleen's murder years ago and figured he could get away with this one.
Rot in jail Peterson. :angry:

Stacy also had a piece of information that DP did not want out (how Drew was dressed the night of Kathleen's death, how he was missing for a certain period of time, etc.) and, Stacy was his alibi for the night that he killed Kathleen. With her divorcing him, he may have been very scared that she would tell someone or use that against him in some way. IMO

However, for the most part, he was scared of losing his pension as well. He was retiring a week or so after Stacy went missing. I think he was planning to kill her before then, but I think that day it was spur of the moment.

[jerry50]

I did hear on the news that the barrel found near where the remains were found, is not the one they are looking for. Apparently there are many barrels in the river. :sad:

I think that the location of any blue barrel would have nothing to do with the body if it does turn out to be Stacy. Horribly so, there is not much at all left of the remains. This appears to me that the body has actually been in the river itself without the protection of the barrel for a long time.
I wonder if the missing body parts have anything to do with the body being weighted down with cinder blocks or something and the body broke apart at the places where the weights were attached. This may apply more to possibly Lisa Stebic.
I pray that the remains are one of these two women and allows their families to bury their loved one.

[Lrobert1]

I think that the location of any blue barrel would have nothing to do with the body if it does turn out to be Stacy. Horribly so, there is not much at all left of the remains. This appears to me that the body has actually been in the river itself without the protection of the barrel for a long time.
I wonder if the missing body parts have anything to do with the body being weighted down with cinder blocks or something and the body broke apart at the places where the weights were attached. This may apply more to possibly Lisa Stebic.
I pray that the remains are one of these two women and allows their families to bury their loved one.

I did read somewhere some speculation about the potential effects on remains if weighted down. And for what I read, it makes sense so I can agree with your speculation above.

However, there could be another scenario where the murdered had severed certain body parts to make it harder for identification.

[imc_e]

Additional remains have been recovered..


CBS 2 has learned that Illinois State Police recovered more evidence from the Des Plaines River that sources say is related to a body found on the river bank on Wednesday.



http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Des.Plaines.River.2.1017836.html

[cat3]

Additional remains have been recovered..




http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Des.Plaines.River.2.1017836.html

Thanks....I just poked my head in to see if there were any updates.Here is another link about the additional remains found.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/Des_Plaines_River_New_Evidence

[Lrobert1]

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/Des_Plaines_River_New_Evidence

Tera Williams: What did they find...
Jeff Triplett: They found a human leg bone... they said they found it on the side of the river...
They had their forensics kit and they all had their laptops and they were bagging it up.

[trich]

Why does it not make sense? I hate it, but it makes sense to me. I know they announced they needed DNA - but that was before the autopsy. There may be information in the autopsy sufficient to know.
Well anyway - CNN apparently thinks it makes sense and they are not being reticent in the least about getting the information out. They'll owe the families a very, very big mea culpa if they are wrong, so I have to figure they have checked their facts. The link upthread is a CNN report published Fri around 10 am. - HLN came out with their update last night didn't they?


I for sure do not know whether this information is correct or not but I would not trust CNN to be completely truthful in anything they print, post or say.
They are very well known for not "telling the whole story" IMO

[Lrobert1]

I for sure do not know whether this information is correct or not but I would not trust CNN to be completely truthful in anything they print, post or say.
They are very well known for not "telling the whole story" IMO

Everyone else is not reporting that the remains are not Stacy or Lisa. In all actuality, new remains have been found yesterday and news reports still haven't ruled out either Stacy or Lisa either. I also think that if Lisa or Stacy had been ruled out, a press conference would have been held, no?

[bkwits]

Very interesting, bkwits! Now it has me wondering just where DP is going to get his "fair trial"! Any counties come to mind that the trial would get moved to ~ if it does?


I should think that everyone within 50 miles or more of Chicago has had their fill of Drew Peterson news. I have heard some talk of moving the trial downstate, where they figure there is more respect for LE.:confused: I doubt he would do any better there.

I would like to see him go to Stateville prison. That is also in the same town as the jail where is now. I think Statewille is the worst in IL. IMO

My stepson passes near DrewP's house on his way to and from work. One afternoon he stopped there when Geraldo and Olberman and Mark Fuhrman were there. My stepson claims he talked to DrewP for 45 min. He even has a pic of Drew with his arm around my SS. :barf:

[iluvmua]

Everyone else is not reporting that the remains are not Stacy or Lisa. In all actuality, new remains have been found yesterday and news reports still haven't ruled out either Stacy or Lisa either. I also think that if Lisa or Stacy had been ruled out, a press conference would have been held, no?

I'm sure that if Stacy or Lisa had been ruled out, it would be posted on foxnews.com, msnbc.com, abcnews.go.com, yahoo.com etc. and it would be broadcast on local news and CNN, HLN, Fox News, MSNBC news etc.


also, I'm sure a press conference would have been held too.

[bkwits]

Has anyone noticed how strong the resemblance is with Peterson and Brodsky. They could pass for brothers. Their disposition is a lot alike, too.
respectfully snipped.....

Rot in jail Peterson. :angry:

Yes, I mentioned that previously. Uncanny.

SEPARATED AT BIRTH?... You be the judge. :w00t:

[trich]

everyone else is not reporting that the remains are not stacy or lisa. In all actuality, new remains have been found yesterday and news reports still haven't ruled out either stacy or lisa either. I also think that if lisa or stacy had been ruled out, a press conference would have been held, no?

exactly!!!!

[Lrobert1]

In a preliminary autopsy, what does it involve? What sort of tests do they do?

And, in addition to the above, I guess it would depend on the condition of the body and/or remains.

[penguin01]

I'm sure that if Stacy or Lisa had been ruled out, it would be posted on foxnews.com, msnbc.com, abcnews.go.com, yahoo.com etc. and it would be broadcast on local news and CNN, HLN, Fox News, MSNBC news etc.


also, I'm sure a press conference would have been held too. IT was on HLN, but OK - I'm convinced. Other news services are not even mentioning that HLN has reported it - nobody else is touching it either way. I wonder why HLN is - or what they have to say about why they are reporting it. Maybe Nancy Grace will get into it next week.

[penguin01]

In a preliminary autopsy, what does it involve? What sort of tests do they do?

And, in addition to the above, I guess it would depend on the condition of the body and/or remains.
I would like to know that also. I do know if they have the pelvic area they can tell if its male or female and whether she has had children. So if they had remains that show its a girl who has not had children they would not have to wait for DNA to know its not Stacy or Lisa. Poster upthread said they do not have the pelvic area so I don't know what else could give them a definitive answer.
But no one but HLN is reporting that they know something - so I hope that means HLN is wrong, wrong, wrong!

[aproudmom]

LOL Just love knowing DP is not cooking away on his grill chilling out hope he enjoys his holiday in the slammer might as well get used to it he has many more to spend behind bars...:laugh:

[aproudmom]

I would like to know that also. I do know if they have the pelvic area they can tell if its male or female and whether she has had children. So if they had remains that show its a girl who has not had children they would not have to wait for DNA to know its not Stacy or Lisa. Poster upthread said they do not have the pelvic area so I don't know what else could give them a definitive answer.
But no one but HLN is reporting that they know something - so I hope that means HLN is wrong, wrong, wrong!

I don't think they know..I am just wondering if the panties were women panties cause I know HLN did report that..but from everything I read they did not have enough of the pelvic bone to tell ...unless something changed since yesterday,

[rem16]

LOL Just love knowing DP is not cooking away on his grill chilling out hope he enjoys his holiday in the slammer might as well get used to it he has many more to spend behind bars...:laugh:

Now you know, innocent until proven guilty, and we musn't jump the gun here.........but,


IT FEELS SO DARN GOOD!! :thumbsup:

[rem16]

I don't think they know..I am just wondering if the panties were women panties cause I know HLN did report that..but from everything I read they did not have enough of the pelvic bone to tell ...unless something changed since yesterday,

I would think they are female panties..and the bones were from a small person.

[aproudmom]

Well, lots of figurin and guessin, but no facts yet! This is one scary thread. Thank goodness we have a judicial system in place! :seeya:

mo

:scared:a scary thread???? anything to do with DP is scary yeah to bad they did not use that Judicial system along time ago for KS and perhaps SP would still be alive..and 4 children would have their mothers..JMO of course:seeya:

[aproudmom]

I would think they are female panties..and the bones were from a small person.

I am catching up my sister got married yesterday so I am just now seeing the new links..so they found more remains I see..and I am thinking if they can tell if it is women's underwear that is why they are saying it is a women..gosh I guess some men wear womens underwear but wont even go there..lol..J/K thanks rem16

[aproudmom]

Now you know, innocent until proven guilty, and we musn't jump the gun here.........but,


IT FEELS SO DARN GOOD!! :thumbsup:

I know my BIL tells me that all the time but he is a Judge and I'm not:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

ha ha! remember the night, i think it was greta was reporting from outside drew's house and he was inside the house making the alarm on his car go off?

what an idiot! :lol:

omg jo I remember that and then that video camera he walked around with..omg and the pig joke he made to the media he is one sick person even if he is innocent

[lonetraveler]

Now you know, innocent until proven guilty, and we musn't jump the gun here.........but,


IT FEELS SO DARN GOOD!! :thumbsup:

-------------
That's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You can always be "tried, convicted and executed" in a court of public opinion..........:wink:

[5boxersmom]

I see they found more remains. :sad:

The report from HLN is confusing but I think they meant the autopsy alone couldn't link to Lisa or Stacy but also couldn't unlink them. Does that make sense?

[KittyMom]

I wish they'd go ahead and announce who these remains are already. LE has a clue, I just know they do!

[sunstar]

I wish they'd go ahead and announce who these remains are already. LE has a clue, I just know they do!

What I found interesting is immediately Stacy and Lisa's names were mentioned, so wouldn't it seem they could tell this is a female approximately the same size as both women? :shrug:

[vonna]

I don't care how cocky he acts....When the state puts a 20 million dollar bail on you (and it's upheld) that would give even the "cockiest" personality a big scare...After the bail hearing today, I'm sure he is thinking OMG I'm in serious deep,trouble!mo

I'd like to think so - but I think he's arrogant enough to think he can beat this rap as he has in the past.

[Snicker]

I'm not sure when the next court date is, but here is an excerpt from a CBS article..

"In court Friday, Brodsky asked the judge if she was considering recusing herself from the case because of her past involvements in Peterson's divorce case from Kathleen Savio. The judge chose to stay onboard.

The defense has nine more days to decide if they want to have her removed from the case."

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.hitman.2.1017001.html

Per the Daily Herald, "The 55-year-old Peterson, shackled and uncharacteristically subdued, is due back in court June 17."

BTW the defense has ten days from the day a new judge is assigned to to challenge it. After the new judge was assigned, JB said he researched her and thought he would NOT challenge the assignment of the new judge because when he considered the other possible judges that could be assigned, he felt comfortable with her. However, that was BEFORE she denied his motion to reduce DP's bond. Guess we'll have to wait and see what JB does next . . .

[CrimeWarrior]

Tonight @ 10 PM EST / 9 CST

Prosecutor Robin Sax author of "Predators and Child Molesters: What Every Parents to Know to Keep Kids Safe." (http://www.amazon.com/Predators-Child-Molesters-Every-Parent/dp/1591027128) Will be discussing the Drew Peterson case and will take calls Live at 347 838 9781.

To listen GO HERE: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

[Dunlurken]

On HLN they are getting ready to discuss that Drew tried to hire a hit man to murder Wife #3.... Kathleen.

[grammie/va]

I see they found more remains. :sad:

The report from HLN is confusing but I think they meant the autopsy alone couldn't link to Lisa or Stacy but also couldn't unlink them. Does that make sense?

This is my take on what HLN is reporting. They need DNA match to identify who it is. IMO

[Thisbe II]

Hey all!!! Especially to you guys I remember from Phil Spector 1. This is my first post since then so ya'll give me time to get used to the format.

My comment is about the HLN report. I thought that they did a preliminary autopsy a couple of days ago and THEN sent the remains off to the lab. It was said that it would take a 7 to 14 days before they could give a final result. Was HLN news saying they had done the new DNA testing??? Help me here. Its good to be back "on the boards" with you guys!!! Gin from Lake Co Illinois

[sunstar]

Hey all!!! Especially to you guys I remember from Phil Spector 1. This is my first post since then so ya'll give me time to get used to the format.

My comment is about the HLN report. I thought that they did a preliminary autopsy a couple of days ago and THEN sent the remains off to the lab. It was said that it would take a 7 to 14 days before they could give a final result. Was HLN news saying they had done the new DNA testing??? Help me here. Its good to be back "on the boards" with you guys!!! Gin from Lake Co Illinois

Hi and welcome back! :smile: Yes, that was my understanding too, that they need the DNA test results since the autopsy didn't give them any identification on the remains.

[Thisbe II]

OK--Now my serious fantasy is that the upcoming trial will be moved North to Lake County where I would be able to attend and report back to the boards. Would never be able to be as thorough as the amazing Sprocket. Anyone else around from Chicagoland???

[mickeymb35]

OK--Now my serious fantasy is that the upcoming trial will be moved North to Lake County where I would be able to attend and report back to the boards. Would never be able to be as thorough as the amazing Sprocket. Anyone else around from Chicagoland???


Hi Thisbe. I am also from Chicagoland. Lake County as a matter of fact. When I heard that they finally arrested Drew I was also hoping that the trial would be moved North. A girl can dream can't she?

[spiritwolf46]

Hey all!!! Especially to you guys I remember from Phil Spector 1. This is my first post since then so ya'll give me time to get used to the format.

My comment is about the HLN report. I thought that they did a preliminary autopsy a couple of days ago and THEN sent the remains off to the lab. It was said that it would take a 7 to 14 days before they could give a final result. Was HLN news saying they had done the new DNA testing??? Help me here. Its good to be back "on the boards" with you guys!!! Gin from Lake Co Illinois

Hiya Gin!

Welcome!

[sunstar]

New Evidence Found in Des Plaines River

Updated: Sunday, 24 May 2009, 5:42 PM CDT
Published : Saturday, 23 May 2009, 9:50 PM CDT

WFLD
Des Plaines, IL. - New evidence found in the Des Plaines River is linked to the human remains found earlier this week. State police confirmed to Fox Chicago News that items were taken out of the river in Channahon...not far from where human remains were found earlier this week. Tera Williams has the exclusive report.

*****************

“They got here about three o'clock”

Chemical plant worker Jeff Triplett says he escorted state police and two workers from the Will County Coroner's office through a brush and back into the woods along the bank of the Des Plaines River...

Tera Williams: What did they find...
Jeff Triplett: They found a human leg bone... they said they found it on the side of the river...
They had their forensics kit and they all had their laptops and they were bagging it up.

Tera Williams: How did they say they were alerted to this area?
Jeff Triplett: They wouldn't say...it's definitely connected to the body earlier this week...

Tera Williams: State police would not confirm that... but did say they took some items into evidence from the Des Plaines River today. We saw search crews wading along the bank and noticed a flagged area where the crew was paying the most attention...

About a mile downriver from there on Wednesday a clean-up crew found skeletal remains. An autopsy done Thursday did not confirm the person's race or gender and it could take weeks for the results of a DNA analysis.

The findings have peaked the interest of the families in two high profile missing persons cases. Stacy Peterson and Lisa Stebic. Searchers have been looking for additional remains since the discovery of the remains Wednesday...

Jeff Triplet says officers who approached him to get onto the property today, were definitely - all business.

“Kinda freaked me out the cops showed up and said we need access and I said why and he said we found a human leg bone.” Triplet said.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/Des_Plaines_River_New_Evidence

[kellabeck]

Me, too!
It's Memorial Day. RIP Kathleen and Stacy! How wonderful to know that at least your killer is not planning a BBQ and an afternoon swim with the kids he orphaned.

[WhiteShark]

Why does it not make sense? I hate it, but it makes sense to me. I know they announced they needed DNA - but that was before the autopsy. There may be information in the autopsy sufficient to know.
Well anyway - CNN apparently thinks it makes sense and they are not being reticent in the least about getting the information out. They'll owe the families a very, very big mea culpa if they are wrong, so I have to figure they have checked their facts. The link upthread is a CNN report published Fri around 10 am. - HLN came out with their update last night didn't they?

IMO, I think the reports are saying there was no identifying findings on the actual remains that would link to Stacy or Lisa.........that the only way to link the remains to either one of them, or anyone else for that matter, would be via DNA..............I don't interpret that report to mean the remains ARE NOT one of the 2 missing ladies.

[rem16]

Anyone think we could hear something tomorrow or Wednesday? <I hope><Ihope>

Well one would hope they are rushing this along, but they did say 2 weeks. It is difficult waiting.

[aproudmom]

Well one would hope they are rushing this along, but they did say 2 weeks. It is difficult waiting.

Oh gosh I know just imagine how these families are feeling the waiting must seem like forever for them..I hope they are putting a rush on it so the families will know..

[~jomomma~]

Oh gosh I know just imagine how these families are feeling the waiting must seem like forever for them..I hope they are putting a rush on it so the families will know..

i'd love to hear something today!

[AJandTam]

Oh gosh I know just imagine how these families are feeling the waiting must seem like forever for them..I hope they are putting a rush on it so the families will know..

Morning. I hope they put a rush on this too, IF they think it is Stacy. As that would get Drew off the streets for good.

Wish they would report more on that barrel. If it is not related. I wish they would just come out and say so.

I wonder how the step brother knows this is not the barrel? Or if maybe he is just saying that because he is scared Drew will come after him now that it's all been found?? If it has been that is..

[NatalieB]

The guy's a real piece of work, isn't he?

[Details]

Hysterical. Just because you can pay enough to buy testimoney, doesn't make it the truth - and almost no one was fooled.



Oh - and back here in the real world - if you don't have a voice, you would simply present your statement to the court in written form, it could be read by attorneys aloud. He really thinks his lies will float?


If - of course - this was Spector - which may well not be true.

[jaxback]

There is one correct statement in that pack of lies he wrote, but I guess he doesn't understand irony:

"But, what goes around comes around."

That's right, Phil, and it did just that for you. What a delusional liar.:thumbdown:

[Pat]

Do you think he really wrote it?

"And the appellate court will see through his [Alan Jackson] chicanery and smoke and mirrors, and false law and overturn my conviction."

The part that proves he's delusional: And irrefutable science and five of the greatest, most famous forensic scientists :laugh: all swore under oath that Ms. Clarkson died of a self inflicted gun shot wound, a suicide.

For that statement alone he should get 5 years tacked onto his sentence.

I'll never trust a "famous" forensic scientist again after watching that trial!

[True2Blues]

Do you think he really wrote it?



The part that proves he's delusional:

For that statement alone he should get 5 years tacked onto his sentence.

I'll never trust a "famous" forensic scientist again after watching that trial!

Funny how the reputations of 5 'famous' (which means known, not necessarily most talented) were damaged by that paid for testimony. Henry Lee was barely fled to China and hid. :laugh:

He's a piece of work, Spector. I know he'll just keep his prison friends in stitches. Intentionally or not! LOL

[sunstar]

And how dare he talk about our beloved prosecutor, AJ, that way!!! :angry:

[bearwds]

Needs to change his place of residence from Alhambra....



bear

[Details]

He did do us a favor there - EXPOSED several forensic scientists as flawed. Henry Lee used to have a TV show - it went away almost as quickly as he did.

[True2Blues]

Terrible sentence structure and several of them don't make sense. I guess those drugs have taken their toll.

[Roux]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=192314775&blogId=504198950

The guy is delusional. :scared:

Much of the verbiage reminds me of Darren Mack. (Re-run on 48 Hrs last night.) Spector and Mack are two of a kind.

[aubrey04]

Isn't this nice:

He used his five little “groupies” women, one of whom recently overdosed and died from drugs, and could not be here to testify to slander and lie about me...

He really seems like a misogynist to me. IMO, He terrorized those women with a gun because he has no respect for women.. He wanted to own them - control them.

He has really played dirty with women and it seems like whenever he opens his mouth -- his hatred and resentment of females shows through.

IMO, he has always thought that he could get away with abusing women because he was a famous, millionaire record producer and these women were nobodies.. (in his mind).

He makes me sick.

All moo's.

[Streetdreamer]

If he has a good arguement, he should've presented it. It's just too hard to accept the story presented. It doesn't sound reasonable that Mrs. Clarkson would take those steps to end her own life. If he can prove those stories of gunplay are false, that still wouldn't present enough of an argument towards reasonable doubt. He would have to come up with something new to sway me.