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imc_e
05-22-2009, 02:32 AM
Good Morning!

Justice for Caylee :rose:

New thread for friday.

:thumbup:

desmom
05-22-2009, 07:22 AM
Good Morning imc_e! :seeya: Thank you for the new thread.

Today's Headlines:

Casey Anthony's Friend Deposed in Civil Lawsuit
http://www.wftv.com/news/19532607/detail.html

Anthony's Friend Says She Never Heard Of Nanny
http://www.wesh.com/news/19525768/detail.html

Deposition of Casey Anthony friend Annie Downing concludes
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-deposition-052209,0,6751276.story

Friend: Casey Never Mentioned 'Zanny'
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19530053/detail.html

Casey's Friend Says Cindy, Casey Fought
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/21/motion_hearing_in_zenaidas_civil_suit_against_case y_expected_today.html

desmom
05-22-2009, 08:17 AM
Annie said Casey was upset when Cindy helped Caylee open her presents on her 2nd birthday. George said in his depo 99% of the time if Caylee was not with Casey, she would be with G and/or C. We have also heard that when Caylee needed something she would go to G or C.

It sounds like when George was working, he worked 2nd shift. Cindy said she usually got home from work around 5:30. Casey would be flying solo with Caylee for what...maybe 3-3 1/2 hours a day? And how much of that 3-3 1/2 hours was Caylee napping?

Toddlers have no patience. By the time they reach 2 - 2 1/2 years old, they know who responds to them and who does not. When they want or need something they want it now. Caylee was your normal 2 year old. She would seek out the person that would meet her needs the quickest. IMO, that would have been G or C.

Motherhood is not a job that one can fit into their schedule when it is convenient for them. It is too bad Casey did not grasp the concept. jmo

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 08:17 AM
Good morning...it's still night for me...couldn't sleep, but thanks imc for the new thread and thanks des friend for all the links. Will be checking them out...without haste...:lol:
As I said, I couldn't sleep. I signed off hours ago, but thought I'd check and see if anyone was here.
And voila, I see both of you here.
I just had to share something that I think so applies to the Anthony's.
I have never made it a secret that I'm a Christian and I am signed up to receive daily verses and a devotional from a Christian website.
I get what's is called 'Daily Wisdom'. It's just a short verse from the bible that sometimes applies to what I need to hear, sometimes not. When I clicked on it before I came here, it seemed to be something that I didn't quite understand how it would apply to me. So, since I'm awake, I then went further into it...they of course have links to allow people to dig deeper. The verse was Proverbs 28:1.
I did click the link to read it in context and I was like WOW!...this so applies to the Ant's...Casey included, I just thought I'd share it with any who are interested.
I know there are many Christians here and there are many who aren't. Which is fine with me and I'm not in anyway trying to preach or push my beliefs onto others, I :wub: you all.
I just thought that everyone, Christian or not, believer or not, might find this interesting in the way each verse of this chapter applies to the Ant's and how what they 'preach'....I especially think of Cindy's rant as she left her depo with M&M about how dare they say she can't pray, doesn't have faith, etc.
I will give this link and let those who want to check it out to see how what they claim to believe in is so opposite of what the bible says. You all can take it as you will, but I took it as just another example of all the lies they (Cindy) have told to add to the list that all have posted today/yesterday. This is my contribution to the list of lies.
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=pr+28&t=nlt&language=en&sr=0&l=en#F43
I hope I've done this right, I'm still not good at posting links. :blushing:
I'm now going to check out the links that you Des have posted. May be back, but, am actually hoping I can try and get some sleep. Gson wil be up and raring to go in just a couple of hours and this is one of my full day with him. Thankfully my dd, his mom doe the morning thing with him but then she will be off to school when he gets off to school and I will have to be picking him up and having him until she gets home. Tomorrow is one of her long days.
I know, I'm rambling now....sorry, I'll stop now.

ETA-I see the link did post as a link, yay, I did it right.

spageddy
05-22-2009, 08:17 AM
Good morning all,
I'm happy to be back after some eye problems. I hope I can keep up:unsure: So much going on all over!. I'll be lurking and counting on you good & faithful posters for my updated info, so keep up the good work.:thumbup:

desmom
05-22-2009, 08:20 AM
While I am thinking about it....

We are going into a holiday weekend. I have not seen anything about a Holiday board yet. If you show up and the forum is locked, you may want to look for a Holiday Forum on the main page. jmo

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 08:30 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Downing.pdf

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 08:36 AM
Annie said Casey was upset when Cindy helped Caylee open her presents on her 2nd birthday. George said in his depo 99% of the time if Caylee was not with Casey, she would be with G and/or C. We have also heard that when Caylee needed something she would go to G or C.

It sounds like when George was working, he worked 2nd shift. Cindy said she usually got home from work around 5:30. Casey would be flying solo with Caylee for what...maybe 3-3 1/2 hours a day? And how much of that 3-3 1/2 hours was Caylee napping?

Toddlers have no patience. By the time they reach 2 - 2 1/2 years old, they know who responds to them and who does not. When they want or need something they want it now. Caylee was your normal 2 year old. She would seek out the person that would meet her needs the quickest. IMO, that would have been G or C.

Motherhood is not a job that one can fit into their schedule when it is convenient for them. It is too bad Casey did not grasp the concept. jmo

des, I couldn't agree more with what you've said.
Will you allow me to add that Caylee was also probably getting to the point where she wouldn't be napping as much as she had been. Meaning more time that Casey would have had to be responsible for her. Add to that Caylee becoming more and more vocal, Casey was finding that this little 'doll' was a real person that she just couldn't lay her down for a nap anymore for a few hours and those hours Caylee wasn't napping she was talking her little head off. So inconvienant for Casey. I had a dd after I had my 2 boys and that's one huge difference I noticed with her and her brothers, she talked and talked. So Casey was also losing those nap hours, she was facing the yacky-yack of a woman in the making....woman talk more than men. She was probably quite afraid of what Caylee would be saying about the time she spent with mama.

Scampi
05-22-2009, 08:38 AM
Good morning everyone. Can anyone recall what apartment number for ZFG, at Sawgrass, casey anthony gave to LE during her interview at Universal?

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 08:43 AM
Good morning all,
I'm happy to be back after some eye problems. I hope I can keep up:unsure: So much going on all over!. I'll be lurking and counting on you good & faithful posters for my updated info, so keep up the good work.:thumbup:

Good morning spageddy and welcome back. I hope your eye probs are gone, or at least healing well.
Do not fear, the friends you have here will continue to keep you updated.
Stay well and post whenever you feel like jumping in.
:wub:

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 08:46 AM
While I am thinking about it....

We are going into a holiday weekend. I have not seen anything about a Holiday board yet. If you show up and the forum is locked, you may want to look for a Holiday Forum on the main page. jmo

Thank you des for the reminder that we are getting into a holiday weekend.
An early Happy Memorial Day to everyone.
:patriot:

jammies
05-22-2009, 08:49 AM
Good morning everyone. Can anyone recall what apartment number for ZFG, at Sawgrass, casey anthony gave to LE during her interview at Universal?


Morning.

#210 apt

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:02 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Downing.pdf

Thank you for this margaritaville!
Have you added this to the links thread?
I am very interested to see what Annie said. I saw that peeps were talking about it yesterday, but haven't delved into it yet.
I will have to go there and see what all were talking about.
:wink:

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:05 AM
Good morning everyone. Can anyone recall what apartment number for ZFG, at Sawgrass, casey anthony gave to LE during her interview at Universal?

Good morning Scampi!
I'm not usually here this early, couldn't sleep so it's a pleasure to see you this early.
Did you bring coffee?

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:07 AM
Morning.

#210 apt

jammies, good morning to you too!!!
Pleasure to see you as well....what's for breakfast?

jammies
05-22-2009, 09:07 AM
Thank you for this margaritaville!
Have you added this to the links thread?
I am very interested to see what Annie said. I saw that peeps were talking about it yesterday, but haven't delved into it yet.
I will have to go there and see what all were talking about.
:wink:


Nice to see you in daylight hours, OG. Hope things are going better for you!


ETA, looks like we posted simultaneously!

SoggyBayou
05-22-2009, 09:10 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19530096/detail.html

Sorry if this has been posted.

"Pipitone said records show that Anthony then got online and was contacted by a man who would change the course of her life, Tony Lazzaro.

In released documents, detectives asked Lazzaro how me met Anthony.

"Just browsing Facebook, and she was good-looking, so I hit her up," he said.

A detective replied, "Hit her up, meaning you sent her an e-mail or whatever?"

"Just sending a comment on her page," Lazzaro said.

"She said she was a Valencia student?" the detective asked.

"That's what it said on the page -- that it was a Valencia student," Lazzaro said.

But that was a lie because Anthony never graduated high school, Pipitone reported."

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:12 AM
Good morning...it's still night for me...couldn't sleep, but thanks imc for the new thread and thanks des friend for all the links. Will be checking them out...without haste...:lol:
As I said, I couldn't sleep. I signed off hours ago, but thought I'd check and see if anyone was here.
And voila, I see both of you here.
I just had to share something that I think so applies to the Anthony's.
I have never made it a secret that I'm a Christian and I am signed up to receive daily verses and a devotional from a Christian website.
I get what's is called 'Daily Wisdom'. It's just a short verse from the bible that sometimes applies to what I need to hear, sometimes not. When I clicked on it before I came here, it seemed to be something that I didn't quite understand how it would apply to me. So, since I'm awake, I then went further into it...they of course have links to allow people to dig deeper. The verse was Proverbs 28:1.
I did click the link to read it in context and I was like WOW!...this so applies to the Ant's...Casey included, I just thought I'd share it with any who are interested.
I know there are many Christians here and there are many who aren't. Which is fine with me and I'm not in anyway trying to preach or push my beliefs onto others, I :wub: you all.
I just thought that everyone, Christian or not, believer or not, might find this interesting in the way each verse of this chapter applies to the Ant's and how what they 'preach'....I especially think of Cindy's rant as she left her depo with M&M about how dare they say she can't pray, doesn't have faith, etc.
I will give this link and let those who want to check it out to see how what they claim to believe in is so opposite of what the bible says. You all can take it as you will, but I took it as just another example of all the lies they (Cindy) have told to add to the list that all have posted today/yesterday. This is my contribution to the list of lies.
http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=pr+28&t=nlt&language=en&sr=0&l=en#F43
I hope I've done this right, I'm still not good at posting links.
I'm now going to check out the links that you Des have posted. May be back, but, am actually hoping I can try and get some sleep. Gson wil be up and raring to go in just a couple of hours and this is one of my full day with him. Thankfully my dd, his mom doe the morning thing with him but then she will be off to school when he gets off to school and I will have to be picking him up and having him until she gets home. Tomorrow is one of her long days.
I know, I'm rambling now....sorry, I'll stop now.

ETA-I see the link did post as a link, yay, I did it right.


Thanks for sharing OG. Someone should send this to the OC in jail and them to the Ant's :sneaky:

Hope you can get some sleep. Have fun with your grandson today.

imo

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:12 AM
Nice to see you in daylight hours, OG. Hope things are going better for you!


ETA, looks like we posted simultaneously!

I couldn't sleep last night, turned puter back on and found myself among the daylight peeps.
Things are still the same, not better. Sorry, don't want to bring you or anyone down.
I'm still in my jammies and am asking again....what's for breakfast?:biggrin:

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:14 AM
That Tale of King George and Queen Cynthia, part V

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/the-tale-of-king-george-and-queen-cynthia-part-v/

The Tale of King George and Quuen Cynthia, Part V - continued
http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/the-tale-part-v-continued/


imo

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:17 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19530096/detail.html

Sorry if this has been posted.

"Pipitone said records show that Anthony then got online and was contacted by a man who would change the course of her life, Tony Lazzaro.

In released documents, detectives asked Lazzaro how me met Anthony.

"Just browsing Facebook, and she was good-looking, so I hit her up," he said.

A detective replied, "Hit her up, meaning you sent her an e-mail or whatever?"

"Just sending a comment on her page," Lazzaro said.

"She said she was a Valencia student?" the detective asked.

"That's what it said on the page -- that it was a Valencia student," Lazzaro said.

But that was a lie because Anthony never graduated high school, Pipitone reported."

Wow! It's been a year?!
I wonder how Tony feels now? I'm betting (not that I'm a betting woman) he's wishing he'd never sent a comment to her page and then went on to meet her.
That whole 'relationship' between the started right off with a lie.

msgatorslayer
05-22-2009, 09:18 AM
G'moring everyone!

I'm disappointed that yesterdays hearing was cancelled and a new date wasn't set.

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:20 AM
G'moring everyone!

I'm disappointed that yesterdays hearing was cancelled and a new date wasn't set.

Me too. What's next? Are there any other hearings coming up?

imo

jammies
05-22-2009, 09:21 AM
Thanks for sharing OG. Someone should send this to the OC in jail and them to the Ant's :sneaky:

Hope you can get some sleep. Have fun with your grandson today.

imo


Here's the scripture:

Book of Proverbs
28:1-28 -
1The wicked run away when no one is chasing them, but the godly are as bold as lions.

2When there is moral rot within a nation, its government topples easily. But with wise and knowledgeable leaders, there is stability.

3A poor person who oppresses the poor is like a pounding rain that destroys the crops.

4To reject the law is to praise the wicked; to obey the law is to fight them.

5Evil people don't understand justice, but those who follow the LORD understand completely.

6It is better to be poor and honest than rich and crooked.

7Young people who obey the law are wise; those who seek out worthless companions bring shame to their parents.

8A person who makes money by charging interest will lose it. It will end up in the hands of someone who is kind to the poor.

9The prayers of a person who ignores the law are despised.

10Those who lead the upright into sin will fall into their own trap, but the honest will inherit good things.

11Rich people picture themselves as wise, but their real poverty is evident to the poor.

12When the godly succeed, everyone is glad. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding.

13People who cover over their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and forsake them, they will receive mercy.

14Blessed are those who have a tender conscience, F43 but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble.

15A wicked ruler is as dangerous to the poor as a lion or bear attacking them.

16Only a stupid prince will oppress his people, but a king will have a long reign if he hates dishonesty and bribes.

17A murderer's tormented conscience will drive him into the grave. Don't protect him!

18The honest will be rescued from harm, but those who are crooked will be destroyed.

19Hard workers have plenty of food; playing around brings poverty.

20The trustworthy will get a rich reward. But the person who wants to get rich quick will only get into trouble.

21Showing partiality is never good, yet some will do wrong for something as small as a piece of bread.

22A greedy person tries to get rich quick, but it only leads to poverty.

23In the end, people appreciate frankness more than flattery.

24Robbing your parents and then saying, "What's wrong with that?" is as serious as committing murder.

25Greed causes fighting; trusting the LORD leads to prosperity.

26Trusting oneself is foolish, but those who walk in wisdom are safe.

27Whoever gives to the poor will lack nothing. But a curse will come upon those who close their eyes to poverty.

28When the wicked take charge, people hide. When the wicked meet disaster, the godly multiply.

SoggyBayou
05-22-2009, 09:25 AM
Wow! It's been a year?!
I wonder how Tony feels now? I'm betting (not that I'm a betting woman) he's wishing he'd never sent a comment to her page and then went on to meet her.
That whole 'relationship' between the started right off with a lie.

Yes, a year in the life of Casey. I think from here on out, we will be seeing daily articles based on documents.
IMO

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:28 AM
Yes, a year in the life of Casey. I think from here on out, we will be seeing daily articles based on documents.
IMO

And little Caylee would be turning 4 years old this summer....:rose:

imo

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:29 AM
That Tale of King George and Queen Cynthia, part V

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/the-tale-of-king-george-and-queen-cynthia-part-v/

The Tale of King George and Quuen Cynthia, Part V - continued
http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/the-tale-part-v-continued/


imo

:lol: So funny AMS.
Sad as well.
Are there parts 1-4? If so I missed them.
I didn't see any reference to parts that came before V.
My very tired eyes just may have missed that tho.
:closedeyes:

desmom
05-22-2009, 09:29 AM
des, I couldn't agree more with what you've said.
Will you allow me to add that Caylee was also probably getting to the point where she wouldn't be napping as much as she had been. Meaning more time that Casey would have had to be responsible for her. Add to that Caylee becoming more and more vocal, Casey was finding that this little 'doll' was a real person that she just couldn't lay her down for a nap anymore for a few hours and those hours Caylee wasn't napping she was talking her little head off. So inconvienant for Casey. I had a dd after I had my 2 boys and that's one huge difference I noticed with her and her brothers, she talked and talked. So Casey was also losing those nap hours, she was facing the yacky-yack of a woman in the making....woman talk more than men. She was probably quite afraid of what Caylee would be saying about the time she spent with mama.

I agree.

Also before Caylee started walking, Casey could drag her around in her infant carrier/car seat or drop her in a playpen and Casey would always know where Caylee was. Once Caylee started walking, look out! At that age there is not a chair they can't climb on, a door they cannot open and they love to push the handle and hear the swiiiisssshhhhh of a toilet.

Caylee was at the age when parents begin sleeping with one eye open and an ear tuned in because you never know what was coming next.

OMG! The toddler years were exhausting some days. IF one could figure out how to bottle all the energy in a toddler, it would put an end to the energy crisis!

jmo

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:31 AM
And little Caylee would be turning 4 years old this summer....:rose:

imo

:sad:
:rose:

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:32 AM
:lol: So funny AMS.
Sad as well.
Are there parts 1-4? If so I missed them.
I didn't see any reference to parts that came before V.
My very tired eyes just may have missed that tho.
:closedeyes:

All the parts are here OG. Enjoy!

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/

imo

Lavinia
05-22-2009, 09:34 AM
And little Caylee would be turning 4 years old this summer....:rose:

imo

Gosh, I had to stop and count it up to make sure of your math, AMS, because it doesn't seem like that much time could have passed. It has. :sad:

(Hey, OG. I should have stayed here with you last night as I didn't sleep either. I shopped. :ohmy:)

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:45 AM
I agree.

Also before Caylee started walking, Casey could drag her around in her infant carrier/car seat or drop her in a playpen and Casey would always know where Caylee was. Once Caylee started walking, look out! At that age there is not a chair they can't climb on, a door they cannot open and they love to push the handle and hear the swiiiisssshhhhh of a toilet.

Caylee was at the age when parents begin sleeping with one eye open and an ear tuned in because you never know what was coming next.

OMG! The toddler years were exhausting some days. IF one could figure out how to bottle all the energy in a toddler, it would put an end to the energy crisis!
jmo

Bolding mine....LOL...so true, so true. Or if I could have that energy!
And yep, you are so right about those baby years, Casey had it made then. Those toddler years...oh, how I remember them and suddenly Casey was totally out of her element. The little doll was no longer a little doll. She walked, she talked and probably (remembering my dd at that age), wasn't so agreeable with all the costumes, sunglasses, and hats Casey or Cindy kept dressing her up in.
I remember my dd wanting to dress herself in the most outrageous outfits, have a few pics of her at that age. One that is priceless. It was middle of summer, triple digit heat, she comes out dressed in a dress, snowboots, scarf and winter hat. Ready to go to the mall with my mom, who was visiting, and me.
Was very upset when I had her change. She was 2 1/2 yrs.

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:48 AM
All the parts are here OG. Enjoy!

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/

imo

Thank you darlin!
:wub:

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 09:52 AM
Gosh, I had to stop and count it up to make sure of your math, AMS, because it doesn't seem like that much time could have passed. It has. :sad:

(Hey, OG. I should have stayed here with you last night as I didn't sleep either. I shopped. :ohmy:)

My Lavinia!!!
You should have.
I'm assuming you shopped online....what did you buy?
Hopefully something that made you happy!
:wub:

msgatorslayer
05-22-2009, 09:54 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Downing.pdf

Thanks for the link. I'm not done reading it yet. Just wanted to comment about Amy saying that Casey's 'job' was ideal and it didn't make much sense to her that someone so young could land a job like that at a major corporation.

Both Casey's parents knew and allowed it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. George admits he didn't think she was working in an interview. Cindy talked to Ryan and found out she was working at Sports Authority.

Casey's life was nothing but make believe.

AMS
05-22-2009, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the link. I'm not done reading it yet. Just wanted to comment about Amy saying that Casey's 'job' was ideal and it didn't make much sense to her that someone so young could land a job like that at a major corporation.

Both Casey's parents knew and allowed it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. George admits he didn't think she was working in an interview. Cindy talked to Ryan and found out she was working at Sports Authority.

Casey's life was nothing but make believe.

Bolding is mine. ITA and as someone posted yesterday....once Caylee began to talk and put sentences together, Casey's make believe life was crumbling.

imo

jammies
05-22-2009, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the link. I'm not done reading it yet. Just wanted to comment about Amy saying that Casey's 'job' was ideal and it didn't make much sense to her that someone so young could land a job like that at a major corporation.

Both Casey's parents knew and allowed it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. George admits he didn't think she was working in an interview. Cindy talked to Ryan and found out she was working at Sports Authority.

Casey's life was nothing but make believe.


And the A's went along with it. Nothing will ever convince me they REALLY thought she was working. They were all playing pretend.

desmom
05-22-2009, 10:00 AM
I was not on the boards last night and apologize if this has been discussed:

Did Annie lie in her depo about her traffic ticket?

Page 73 - 74 http://www.forthepeople.com/Downing.pdf
Q Was there one around Memorial Day last year or May 24th or so?

A Of last year?

Q Yes. I'm just looking at some things here, that you got, I guess, a traffic ticket.

A The last one I got was a speeding ticket and seat belt violation. When it was I don't know. I know where I was, but --

Q Was anybody with you?

A No.

Q You were by yourself?

A I was by myself.

Q So traffic ticket and speeding violation. Was Casey around following you?

A I was actually talking on the phone to her, ironically, but I don't think it was last year. I think it's been a year.

Q Oh, has it?

A A good year.

Or is the ZG/Annie tickets a coincident?

desmom
05-22-2009, 10:07 AM
Thanks for the link. I'm not done reading it yet. Just wanted to comment about Amy saying that Casey's 'job' was ideal and it didn't make much sense to her that someone so young could land a job like that at a major corporation.

Both Casey's parents knew and allowed it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. George admits he didn't think she was working in an interview. Cindy talked to Ryan and found out she was working at Sports Authority.

Casey's life was nothing but make believe.

Exactly!

Throw in Casey's little events of theft of $$ and running up the credit cards just blows my mind they allowed it to continue.

Why the heck would they tolerate this behavior? FGS! She was 22 years old at the time! Time to grow up little girl! Welcome to Adulthood!

jmo

Scampi
05-22-2009, 10:08 AM
Morning.

#210 apt

Thanks Jammies, so the OC was slick enough not to say it was 218, Annie's and her boyfriend's place.

....and could someone feed OregonGirl, she's hungry this morn. :seeya:

Barbara fl.
05-22-2009, 10:09 AM
While I am thinking about it....

We are going into a holiday weekend. I have not seen anything about a Holiday board yet. If you show up and the forum is locked, you may want to look for a Holiday Forum on the main page. jmo



Good morning all,


Thanks for that info Desmom, I always feel left out :sad: when the board is closed, then later find out that it was open somewhere else.....

msgatorslayer
05-22-2009, 10:12 AM
And the A's went along with it. Nothing will ever convince me they REALLY thought she was working. They were all playing pretend.

Exactly! Just as Cindy denied Casey was pregnant. Her family image was important to her. It was easier to let Casey do as she pleases and tell everyone else that things were grand. That Casey was doing very well for herself.

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 10:12 AM
Here's the scripture:

Book of Proverbs
28:1-28 -
1The wicked run away when no one is chasing them, but the godly are as bold as lions.

2When there is moral rot within a nation, its government topples easily. But with wise and knowledgeable leaders, there is stability.

3A poor person who oppresses the poor is like a pounding rain that destroys the crops.

4To reject the law is to praise the wicked; to obey the law is to fight them.

5Evil people don't understand justice, but those who follow the LORD understand completely.

6It is better to be poor and honest than rich and crooked.

7Young people who obey the law are wise; those who seek out worthless companions bring shame to their parents.

8A person who makes money by charging interest will lose it. It will end up in the hands of someone who is kind to the poor.

9The prayers of a person who ignores the law are despised.

10Those who lead the upright into sin will fall into their own trap, but the honest will inherit good things.

11Rich people picture themselves as wise, but their real poverty is evident to the poor.

12When the godly succeed, everyone is glad. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding.

13People who cover over their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and forsake them, they will receive mercy.

14Blessed are those who have a tender conscience, F43 but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble.

15A wicked ruler is as dangerous to the poor as a lion or bear attacking them.

16Only a stupid prince will oppress his people, but a king will have a long reign if he hates dishonesty and bribes.

17A murderer's tormented conscience will drive him into the grave. Don't protect him!

18The honest will be rescued from harm, but those who are crooked will be destroyed.

19Hard workers have plenty of food; playing around brings poverty.

20The trustworthy will get a rich reward. But the person who wants to get rich quick will only get into trouble.

21Showing partiality is never good, yet some will do wrong for something as small as a piece of bread.

22A greedy person tries to get rich quick, but it only leads to poverty.

23In the end, people appreciate frankness more than flattery.

24Robbing your parents and then saying, "What's wrong with that?" is as serious as committing murder.

25Greed causes fighting; trusting the LORD leads to prosperity.

26Trusting oneself is foolish, but those who walk in wisdom are safe.

27Whoever gives to the poor will lack nothing. But a curse will come upon those who close their eyes to poverty.

28When the wicked take charge, people hide. When the wicked meet disaster, the godly multiply.

Good job jammies in posting the whole chapter....
The verses I feel that definantly apply to the Ant's....
4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,17,18,19,20,21,22,24,25 ,26,27.....well, shoot, re reading, all of them apply, but the ones I just listed ESPECIALLY apply to the Ant's.
Yes, someone should send this to the Ant's. I wonder if I sent this to the CMA foundation if I would get a reply? Do they have a comment section? I've only been there once and it so sickened me I haven't been back.
If they do and I sent this, would it even appear?
I guess I'll have to check it out again. :blink:

Scampi
05-22-2009, 10:16 AM
Me too. What's next? Are there any other hearings coming up?

imo

Hiya A!! The next hearing is on 5/28 and the subject will be whether the video from the medical area where the OC was observed as she learned remains had been found, can be released.

msgatorslayer
05-22-2009, 10:17 AM
Exactly!

Throw in Casey's little events of theft of $$ and running up the credit cards just blows my mind they allowed it to continue.

Why the heck would they tolerate this behavior? FGS! She was 22 years old at the time! Time to grow up little girl! Welcome to Adulthood!

jmo

It's twisted, Des. It's as if they thought she was unable to do anything for herself. :rolleyes:

Still blows my mind that Casey chose to fake work instead of getting a job. I'd love to know the answers to why. She did have it made being a young single parent. Her parents provided everything for Caylee and she. Her life could have been so much better.

Oregongal
05-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks Jammies, so the OC was slick enough not to say it was 218, Annie's and her boyfriend's place.

....and could someone feed OregonGirl, she's hungry this morn. :seeya:

LOL Scamp!
Actually I should sign off. DD and gson will be up within minutes and I need to pretend I'm laying down and sleeping.
DD gets very upset with me when I have a no sleep night and finds me on the computer.
She worries about me. :wub:
As soon as they get up and going I can get some coffee and then I will need something to eat.
I'll be back, expecting breakfast.
:tonguewag:

AMS
05-22-2009, 10:23 AM
Hiya A!! The next hearing is on 5/28 and the subject will be whether the video from the medical area where the OC was observed as she learned remains had been found, can be released.

Phew! I thought we were approaching a week without "an event". :biggrin:

imo

desmom
05-22-2009, 10:24 AM
It's twisted, Des. It's as if they thought she was unable to do anything for herself. :rolleyes:

Still blows my mind that Casey chose to fake work instead of getting a job. I'd love to know the answers to why. She did have it made being a young single parent. Her parents provided everything for Caylee and she. Her life could have been so much better.

Bolding mine...

Because stealing is easier? :tonguewag:

sammy62
05-22-2009, 10:35 AM
Hiya A!! The next hearing is on 5/28 and the subject will be whether the video from the medical area where the OC was observed as she learned remains had been found, can be released.

Can't a judge make a ruling on that without going into court. Seems a waste of court's time. I really don't care if we do get to see it. She either reacted that way because of how it would affect her, or she is a GREAT actress.

marshmallow
05-22-2009, 10:56 AM
Bolding mine...

Because stealing is easier? :tonguewag:




but Casey put as much effort into lying, stealing, and conning as she would've put into working a part time job. baffles the mind.

jammies
05-22-2009, 11:01 AM
but Casey put as much effort into lying, stealing, and conning as she would've put into working a part time job. baffles the mind.


Annie said something about Casey always had money. So when she wasn't stealing where was she getting it? Did Cindy and GA give her money? Did she "earn" some money under the table (covers)?

Dells
05-22-2009, 11:32 AM
Hiya A!! The next hearing is on 5/28 and the subject will be whether the video from the medical area where the OC was observed as she learned remains had been found, can be released.

Do you think they will discuss the COV motion at that time, or do you think they will save that for another hearing? What about the motion that the prosecution filed about the defense getting a DPQ attorney? Could that possibly be discussed at this hearing next week as well?

Barbara fl.
05-22-2009, 11:34 AM
but Casey put as much effort into lying, stealing, and conning as she would've put into working a part time job. baffles the mind.



Work would have been a whole lot less strenuous.....

Dells
05-22-2009, 11:37 AM
Annie said something about Casey always had money. So when she wasn't stealing where was she getting it? Did Cindy and GA give her money? Did she "earn" some money under the table (covers)?

I personally think she always had money because she stole it from other people. I think Casey was too lazy to try to earn it herself. She also seems to me the type of person that would always mooch off people, so even when she did have money she never spent it because she probably always let other people pay for her. That's why she always had money. She probably only spent her "own" stolen money when she was by herself and wanted something and there was no one to mooch off of.:sneaky:

AMS
05-22-2009, 11:47 AM
We asked you: Should George and Cindy Anthony appear on talk shows?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-edpbacktalk-casey-anthony-05220052209may22,0,1756678.story


imo

Pruddennce
05-22-2009, 11:48 AM
Annie said something about Casey always had money. So when she wasn't stealing where was she getting it? Did Cindy and GA give her money? Did she "earn" some money under the table (covers)?


George indicated in his LE/FBI interview that Casey would hit him up for cash, making an excuse, "I couldnt get to the ATM machine, can you give me a $5, 10 FOR GAS...

other money: GA indicated she took from her mother's purse. she took money from Caylee's piggy bank. she was forging checks in her mother's name, for CASH, back in FEBRUARY 08. one such check is in the doc dumps: CAMPING trip <---yes, thats the 'note' she wrote on the check....gawd.

I suspect she was picking up every coin laying around the house.

'always had money': her committing fraud, that activity didnt start with Amy. It started with her family, including her brother who also admits she stole checks from him AND Ryan P. Then she branched out to her grandmother.

IMO, she has stolen from others. money they would not even notice was missing right away, and would certainly not suspect her. also, IMO, she stole from strangers.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

summer4meplz
05-22-2009, 11:56 AM
Do you think they will discuss the COV motion at that time, or do you think they will save that for another hearing? What about the motion that the prosecution filed about the defense getting a DPQ attorney? Could that possibly be discussed at this hearing next week as well?


maybe by appearing on NATIONAL tv.....and tainting the entire country....there would be no point in a COV>>>>

Dells
05-22-2009, 12:00 PM
Work would have been a whole lot less strenuous.....

I so agree. If Casey would have put her time and effort into a career instead of all the lying and stealing, she probably could have been very successful. She certainly was very resourceful when it came to lying and stealing.:sneaky:

Dells
05-22-2009, 12:03 PM
We asked you: Should George and Cindy Anthony appear on talk shows?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-edpbacktalk-casey-anthony-05220052209may22,0,1756678.story


imo

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya: I loved they comment where the person said that they should appear on talk shows, but not talk.:lol:

AMS
05-22-2009, 12:05 PM
Thanks so much for the link. :seeya: I loved they comment where the person said that they should appear on talk shows, but not talk.:lol:

That was my favorite too :thumbsup:

imo

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 12:07 PM
George indicated in his LE/FBI interview that Casey would hit him up for cash, making an excuse, "I couldnt get to the ATM machine, can you give me a $5, 10 FOR GAS...

other money: GA indicated she took from her mother's purse. she took money from Caylee's piggy bank. she was forging checks in her mother's name, for CASH, back in FEBRUARY 08. one such check is in the doc dumps: CAMPING trip <---yes, thats the 'note' she wrote on the check....gawd.

I suspect she was picking up every coin laying around the house.

'always had money': her committing fraud, that activity didnt start with Amy. It started with her family, including her brother who also admits she stole checks from him AND Ryan P. Then she branched out to her grandmother.

IMO, she has stolen from others. money they would not even notice was missing right away, and would certainly not suspect her. also, IMO, she stole from strangers.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*


ITA....

I also think she may have been selling herself for cash as well...

Still wondering about the photos that LE was telling or showed GA during his interview...
Wasn't it said they made him vomit?!!

MOO

Dells
05-22-2009, 12:12 PM
George indicated in his LE/FBI interview that Casey would hit him up for cash, making an excuse, "I couldnt get to the ATM machine, can you give me a $5, 10 FOR GAS...

other money: GA indicated she took from her mother's purse. she took money from Caylee's piggy bank. she was forging checks in her mother's name, for CASH, back in FEBRUARY 08. one such check is in the doc dumps: CAMPING trip <---yes, thats the 'note' she wrote on the check....gawd.

I suspect she was picking up every coin laying around the house.

'always had money': her committing fraud, that activity didnt start with Amy. It started with her family, including her brother who also admits she stole checks from him AND Ryan P. Then she branched out to her grandmother.

IMO, she has stolen from others. money they would not even notice was missing right away, and would certainly not suspect her. also, IMO, she stole from strangers.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Great post, pru, and I so agree w/you. I think Casey stole money where ever she could, and she certainly never missed an opportunity to do so, even if that meant having to steal change from Caylee's piggy bank. I think she stole most of her money from her mother, by either using her credit cards and also stealing cash out of her purse. You would think that Cindy would have learned and would have started hiding her money. But then I guess Casey would have just gotten her hands on the credit cards and that could be dangerous because she could have easily maxed them out. At least w/cash, it is a finite amount.

Gah, Casey was always probably filling up her gas tank if she filled it up in $5 and $10 dollar increments. I guess she couldn't use her precious stolen money on mundane things like filling up her gas tank.

In some ways, I think the money she mooched off of people is almost as bad as stealing. She was "borrowing" money from them under false pretenses, and she knew she couldn't pay them back unless she stole the money from somewhere else.

It just completely galls me that she felt that she was so entitled to other people's hard earned money. What a way to live a life. NOT!:sneaky:

Dells
05-22-2009, 12:14 PM
maybe by appearing on NATIONAL tv.....and tainting the entire country....there would be no point in a COV>>>>

So true. Maybe that is why the defense team has been so uncharacteristically quiet these last few weeks. Of course, they can't unring the bell of all the publicity they gladly sought out before then.:sneaky:

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 12:16 PM
I personally think she always had money because she stole it from other people. I think Casey was too lazy to try to earn it herself. She also seems to me the type of person that would always mooch off people, so even when she did have money she never spent it because she probably always let other people pay for her. That's why she always had money. She probably only spent her "own" stolen money when she was by herself and wanted something and there was no one to mooch off of.:sneaky:

But she did work up until 2006...
I wonder what changed there? 2006 was when Annie said she started dating Brandon Snow.. I wonder if Brandon was giving her money and "taking care of her" she thought "why work" I can get all the $$ I need from him..?

And the next guy, and the next guy....

What did Jesse say about her money situation? Was he supporting her or was she self sufficient? And TonE?
although by that time she was stealing from her BFF Amy.......

MOO

desmom
05-22-2009, 12:49 PM
But she did work up until 2006...
I wonder what changed there? 2006 was when Annie said she started dating Brandon Snow.. I wonder if Brandon was giving her money and "taking care of her" she thought "why work" I can get all the $$ I need from him..?

And the next guy, and the next guy....

What did Jesse say about her money situation? Was he supporting her or was she self sufficient? And TonE?
although by that time she was stealing from her BFF Amy.......

MOO


What changed was she got pregnant.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/18%20Mike%20Kozak%20Transcript.pdf

Mike Kozak, Casey's former boss: And uh, they had uh, oh, the, the Fox News Channel was playing it. And then what caught my ear was when uh, the mother was say, "Yeah (affirmative), she worked for Kodak in Color Vision, and got, Color Vision fired her." I was like, "Well, not really," because uh, (sighs), about, I'd say ninety percent of the management and staff that were in with Kodak came over to Color Vision during the uh, contract switch over. And part of the process was the Color Vision guys held uhm, uh, employment seminars on the Universal property. And you had to, if you were a Kodak employee and you wanted to come to Color Vision you had to come to one of those seminars and you know, fill out the application and get on file and all that stuff. And uh, Casey Anthony never showed up.

Why would she go through all the paperwork and seminars when Mommy & Daddy are handing her the green stuff? jmo

ttcRider
05-22-2009, 12:56 PM
Looks like part of our Investigative Team will be a body short today.

:unsure: :huh:

summer4meplz
05-22-2009, 12:58 PM
Looks like part of our Investigative Team will be a body short today.

:unsure: :huh:


what does that mean?:confused:

ttcRider
05-22-2009, 01:00 PM
what does that mean?:confused:

Thats code. LOL sent you pm. :wink:

seeing_eye
05-22-2009, 01:02 PM
I personally think she always had money because she stole it from other people. I think Casey was too lazy to try to earn it herself. She also seems to me the type of person that would always mooch off people, so even when she did have money she never spent it because she probably always let other people pay for her. That's why she always had money. She probably only spent her "own" stolen money when she was by herself and wanted something and there was no one to mooch off of.:sneaky:

Yes, and since her parents paid for the roof over her head, her utilities, her food, her vehicle, her insurance, everything needed for her child, the money she stole probably would have been enough to supply the rest of her needs.

desmom
05-22-2009, 01:02 PM
what does that mean?:confused:

:shrug:

10 characters.

Lavinia
05-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Florida Death Row Fact Sheet:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/

GumShoeJoe
05-22-2009, 01:02 PM
And the A's went along with it. Nothing will ever convince me they REALLY thought she was working. They were all playing pretend.

I think that in Anthony-land, if you didn't talk about it, it wasn't real.

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 01:03 PM
What changed was she got pregnant.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/18%20Mike%20Kozak%20Transcript.pdf

Mike Kozak, Casey's former boss: And uh, they had uh, oh, the, the Fox News Channel was playing it. And then what caught my ear was when uh, the mother was say, "Yeah (affirmative), she worked for Kodak in Color Vision, and got, Color Vision fired her." I was like, "Well, not really," because uh, (sighs), about, I'd say ninety percent of the management and staff that were in with Kodak came over to Color Vision during the uh, contract switch over. And part of the process was the Color Vision guys held uhm, uh, employment seminars on the Universal property. And you had to, if you were a Kodak employee and you wanted to come to Color Vision you had to come to one of those seminars and you know, fill out the application and get on file and all that stuff. And uh, Casey Anthony never showed up.

Why would she go through all the paperwork and seminars when Mommy & Daddy are handing her the green stuff? jmo

No she had already had Caylee by then...
Caylee was born in 2005... this was 2006.

Dells
05-22-2009, 01:06 PM
No she had already had Caylee by then...
Caylee was born in 2005... this was 2006.

Caylee was born in 2005. She would have been 4 years old this August.:crying:

AMS
05-22-2009, 01:07 PM
Florida Death Row Fact Sheet:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/

Ugh! :sad:

jammies
05-22-2009, 01:08 PM
Looks like part of our Investigative Team will be a body short today.

:unsure: :huh:


Oh no..... now who?

ttcRider
05-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Oh no..... now who?

I think I should wait until Dick makes a formal announcement. :laugh:

Lavinia
05-22-2009, 01:12 PM
Ugh! :sad:

Yep. Here is a female specific page with old Aileen Wournos:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/women.html

ETA: Notice how many women on death row who were either paroled, sentence commuted or sentence stayed.

ladeebug565
05-22-2009, 01:14 PM
Annie said something about Casey always had money. So when she wasn't stealing where was she getting it? Did Cindy and GA give her money? Did she "earn" some money under the table (covers)?


Weren't there computer searches for escort services? Either someone was looking for employment or someone was looking for company.

jammies
05-22-2009, 01:19 PM
Weren't there computer searches for escort services? Either someone was looking for employment or someone was looking for company.


Maybe Daddy and Daughter were BOTH looking. Maybe GA was going to manage her new career? :w00t:

openminded
05-22-2009, 01:22 PM
but Casey put as much effort into lying, stealing, and conning as she would've put into working a part time job. baffles the mind.

She did put a lot of time and energy into perfecting the con of not working but there are lots of people out there who just do not want to work and will go to any lengths to conceal that they are not. Apparently Casey is one of those people.

I believe Cindy and George knew she wasn't working and played along. Probably thought that was better than confronting Casey about it since I would guess confronting her didn't work out all that well.

And yet this is the daughter they are soooooo proud of. Right.

Dick Tracy
05-22-2009, 01:25 PM
I think I should wait until Dick makes a formal announcement. :laugh:

Captain Dick Tracy of NODA at your service. I never close shop over here!

AS far as Casey is concerned and suddenly just not showing up for work in 2006 at universal, that was just her way. She didn't have to or rather never did turn her badge or ID in, so everyone close to her just assumed she was just still working there in her highpowered corner office entry level position over there at Universal.

And everyone believed her still.

*MoonRider*
05-22-2009, 01:28 PM
More Evidence Given To Anthony Defense Team
100 New Pages Given To Baez
http://www.wesh.com/news/19537906/detail.html

seeing_eye
05-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Weren't there computer searches for escort services? Either someone was looking for employment or someone was looking for company.

Some of the photos we've seen of Casey "partying" gives me the impression of someone "entertaining" as a paid performer. The photos where Casey is wearing the gambling outfit appears to be at a young boys "coming out" party (or the equivalent thereof).

klock777
05-22-2009, 01:34 PM
More Evidence Given To Anthony Defense Team
100 New Pages Given To Baez
http://www.wesh.com/news/19537906/detail.html

Brad Conway says this is "discovery" not "evidence"
The evidence won't come out until the trial. This is all discovery that they evidently have decided not to use.::biggrin:

desmom
05-22-2009, 01:35 PM
No she had already had Caylee by then...
Caylee was born in 2005... this was 2006.

On page 279, http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel Casey was employed by Event Imaging Solutions (Eastman Kodak) 6/24/04 - 11/26/05. Kodak does allow up to 17 weeks of unpaid maternity leave. If Casey took off the week before Caylee was born, November 26 would have been approximately the end of the 17 weeks.

jmo

lizzard
05-22-2009, 01:37 PM
Looks like part of our Investigative Team will be a body short today.

:unsure: :huh:

Wonder where she went???:tonguewag:

*MoonRider*
05-22-2009, 01:39 PM
Wonder where she went???:tonguewag:

Nice to meet you eh :biggrin:

desmom
05-22-2009, 01:46 PM
Casey did work the lst quarter of 2006 at Event Imaging Solutions, Inc (aka Qualex a division of Eastman Kodak) at 3201 East Colonial Drive in Orlando. She earned $2,518.28 that quarter per pages 287 - 288 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

jmo

lizzard
05-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Nice to meet you eh :biggrin:

Mon plaisir.:thumbup:

sammy62
05-22-2009, 01:51 PM
Some of the photos we've seen of Casey "partying" gives me the impression of someone "entertaining" as a paid performer. The photos where Casey is wearing the gambling outfit appears to be at a young boys "coming out" party (or the equivalent thereof).

CA said on Larry King that Casey was "working" at the clubs/parties where her pictures were taken. IIRC

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 01:52 PM
On page 279, http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel Casey was employed by Event Imaging Solutions (Eastman Kodak) 6/24/04 - 11/26/05. Kodak does allow up to 17 weeks of unpaid maternity leave. If Casey took off the week before Caylee was born, November 26 would have been approximately the end of the 17 weeks.

jmo


Apr 26, 2006 - Checked several names in Universal's database, which showed Casey was fired from Universal on April 26, 2006,
and was not currently employed there at the time of the investigation.

She did go back to work for a little while after Caylee was born...

Moo

ttcRider
05-22-2009, 01:56 PM
Mon plaisir.:thumbup:

Welcome to the boards lizzard! :wub:

lizzard
05-22-2009, 02:02 PM
Welcome to the boards lizzard! :wub:


Thanks, I think I'll like it here.:blushing:

jammies
05-22-2009, 02:07 PM
Apr 26, 2006 - Checked several names in Universal's database, which showed Casey was fired from Universal on April 26, 2006,
and was not currently employed there at the time of the investigation.

She did go back to work for a little while after Caylee was born...

Moo


Is that when her friend watched Caylee for free? Wasn't it that friend who found out she wasn't working anymore so she stopped babysitting?

Do we know how this gal found out Casey was no longer employed?

eagleeer
05-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Sorry O/T

Please go to this link and remember your loved ones on this Memorial Day Weekend.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13129517&posted=1#post13129517

desmom
05-22-2009, 02:25 PM
Is that when her friend watched Caylee for free? Wasn't it that friend who found out she wasn't working anymore so she stopped babysitting?

Do we know how this gal found out Casey was no longer employed?

Lauren said she watched Caylee for approximately the first 8 months after she was born until she discovered Casey was lying about going to work.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642715/Gibbs-Lauren---Statement

AlohaRainbow
05-22-2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks, I think I'll like it here.:blushing:
i think we'll like having you here, too
[just a hunch :wink: ]

Dells
05-22-2009, 02:42 PM
More Evidence Given To Anthony Defense Team
100 New Pages Given To Baez
http://www.wesh.com/news/19537906/detail.html

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya:

Hopefully there are some bombshells in there. I wonder when we will get to see this evidence? Maybe next week?:w00t:

AMS
05-22-2009, 02:46 PM
Thanks, I think I'll like it here.:blushing:

HiYa lizz. Glad you are on the board.


imo

AMS
05-22-2009, 02:55 PM
Casey Anthony: Judge will allow NBC's camera in civil case
posted by halboedeker on May 22, 2009 11:40:28 AM

NBC's Kerry Sanders has a message: Thank you, Judge Jose Rodriguez.

Earlier this week, the judge in the defamation suit against Casey Anthony had said that it was unacceptable for NBC to bring its camera into the courtroom.

Sanders had what he called "a spirited discussion" with the judge after a hearing Tuesday. The judge didn't want camera operators disrupting the hearing, and somebody heard the judge tell Sanders, "I'm not going to let this turn into another Lindbergh kidnapping case." Rodriguez simply wanted a camera in the hearing left on a wide shot.

"My concern was that as he was telling us we couldn't zoom in or pan, he was effectively climbing into the camera and making editorial decisions," Sanders said."I told him we see the camera as no different from someone in the court. They can look to the left or right."

To make his case, Sanders brought in the least-intrusive equipment and a veteran NBC cameraman.

The judge sent word Thursday, via the court administrator, that NBC can have its camera in the courtroom.

Sanders said, "I'm very happy the judge was willing to think this through and see we're here to inform people and not get in the way of court proceedings."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-judge-will-allow-nbcs-camera-in-civil-case.html

summer4meplz
05-22-2009, 03:01 PM
Wonder where she went???:tonguewag:


a chameleon?

breezie
05-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Why am I not surprised at this.
I was watching Rodriguez pretty close yesterday and I noticed he was a little theatrical. He spent more time wanting to address Morgan while Morgan was addressing the court. Bless him...:biggrin:

We may get lucky and Cindy will really do something in anger for the media. Yippie!

What is it with civil Judges!? I'll take a criminal case Judge like Strickland or Fidler any day.

Buttoneyes
05-22-2009, 03:14 PM
I was not on the boards last night and apologize if this has been discussed:

Did Annie lie in her depo about her traffic ticket?

Page 73 - 74 http://www.forthepeople.com/Downing.pdf
Q Was there one around Memorial Day last year or May 24th or so?

A Of last year?

Q Yes. I'm just looking at some things here, that you got, I guess, a traffic ticket.

A The last one I got was a speeding ticket and seat belt violation. When it was I don't know. I know where I was, but --

Q Was anybody with you?

A No.

Q You were by yourself?

A I was by myself.

Q So traffic ticket and speeding violation. Was Casey around following you?

A I was actually talking on the phone to her, ironically, but I don't think it was last year. I think it's been a year.

Q Oh, has it?

A A good year.

Or is the ZG/Annie tickets a coincident?

I wasn't here last night and I don't see anywhere that desmom got an answer to her question today. Does anybody know anything? This doesn't line up with the info that Blink has dug up about Annie getting cited for no seat belt, but not getting a speeding ticket.

lizzard
05-22-2009, 03:18 PM
a chameleon?

:lol: Curses, foiled again! :cuss:

tmw
05-22-2009, 03:40 PM
If Eric was Caylee's father, could his family sue Casey for wrongful death???

desmom
05-22-2009, 03:45 PM
If Eric was Caylee's father, could his family sue Casey for wrongful death???

I have no idea, but I will vote yes.

margaritaville
05-22-2009, 03:48 PM
If Eric was Caylee's father, could his family sue Casey for wrongful death???

Why not?? Maybe that would stop all the Anthony's from cashing in on poor Caylee..
A judgement against money made from Caylee's story/pictures/ book rights ect. would be a blessing..imho

AMS
05-22-2009, 03:49 PM
I have no idea, but I will vote yes.

I say what desmom says. I vote yes.

imo

jammies
05-22-2009, 03:49 PM
Lauren said she watched Caylee for approximately the first 8 months after she was born until she discovered Casey was lying about going to work.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642715/Gibbs-Lauren---Statement



Thanks, des! :wub:


ETA, add me to the "yes" column.

desmom
05-22-2009, 03:51 PM
I wasn't here last night and I don't see anywhere that desmom got an answer to her question today. Does anybody know anything? This doesn't line up with the info that Blink has dug up about Annie getting cited for no seat belt, but not getting a speeding ticket.

Afternoon Buttoneyes. :seeya:

It doesn't match. I was glad Morgan & Morgan asked her about it. I am sure they (and LE) will be able to determine if Annie was lying about the ticket. jmo

sydney
05-22-2009, 03:57 PM
hi guys. can anyone help me with this? i've tried to follow this case but jeez - you move awful fast and it's hard to keep up with you!

when casey was "working" what did she do with caylee? drag her around to whoever's house she was at? also, iirc, i heard one of zg's attorneys ask either g or c if they had ever heard xanax referred to as zanny - anyone else hear that? i thought that was a very interesting question.

i can't get over the fact that it appears to me that the a's kinda threw their hands up over casey's behaviour and did nothing to make her accountable for her actions - instead covering for her at every opportunity.

i would never say my child was a failure or anything like that - but i sure wouldn't be defending their behaviour, kwim?

or am i just old-fashioned?

thanks.

martha
05-22-2009, 04:05 PM
I don;t think we or going to know any truth until the trial and then we may not get any truth.It looks like it may be a long time before they have a trial so I wish people would stop given money to the a;s and make them go to work. They have all forgot about CAYLEE and this is what this is all about justice for CAYLEE. None of the a;s or doing anything to help get justice for CAYLEE so they need to get to work. I wish they would put casey in gp in the jail. I am sure she will not get out until the trial and I hope she don;t get out then. May she be sent to prison from the jail she is in now. Now if she did not kill CAYLEE then I will ask for forgivens then. Once they find the one that did kill her. I just can;t get past the 31 days and the fact that casey was the last one to see CAYLEE. I don;t mean to be judgen casey in now way but I can;t understand who elce could have harmed this baby.jmho

tmw
05-22-2009, 04:06 PM
What is wrong with Eric's family for NOT having an opinion and being vocal and defending this baby????
Where is our outrage for them>????

summer4meplz
05-22-2009, 04:07 PM
What is wrong with Eric's family for NOT having an opinion and being vocal and defending this baby????
Where is our outrage for them>????


who is eric?

seeing_eye
05-22-2009, 04:07 PM
CA said on Larry King that Casey was "working" at the clubs/parties where her pictures were taken. IIRC


I think Cindy was only referring to Casey "working" at Fusion which, IIRC, she got no remuneration for her "work." Those party pictures where she is wearing the gambling dress strikes me as being a private party for very young boys where erotic entertainers have been hired. If I am correct (which may or may not be true), then Casey would have received payment for that "work."

Buttoneyes
05-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Afternoon Buttoneyes. :seeya:

It doesn't match. I was glad Morgan & Morgan asked her about it. I am sure they (and LE) will be able to determine if Annie was lying about the ticket. jmo

Hi desmom,

I haven't even read or listened to Annie's depo. Got on here hoping somebody would do the work for me.:tonguewag: Anyway, I saw your post, then had to dig through the rest to see if there was any comment on it as this was the area I was hoping would be probed in depth by M & M.

I had a peek at another website and learned that there was a break in the depo during which it is believed that questioning was continued in this area, but the material was not released yesterday. Hmmmmm...:huh:

desmom
05-22-2009, 04:08 PM
One year ago this holiday weekend, Casey.....

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_eb88afcea008ca05e63243e1c8b0b43f.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_326a075a5adbb3778d448cac946e5b75.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_069fc0cfc2df8df9fa9a4b02b5d9e829.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447722_8550.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447720_6516.htm

martha
05-22-2009, 04:11 PM
Why not?? Maybe that would stop all the Anthony's from cashing in on poor Caylee..
A judgement against money made from Caylee's story/pictures/ book rights ect. would be a blessing..imho
ITA with you it would be a blessing. I think they all need to be stoped from making money of of Caylee. Caylee was a pretty little girl that was not taken care of right. Had she been she would be with us today.Everytime I get on here and get Caylee on my mind I get so upset with the way this mess is going. C and g with all new cloths. not working. how or they living? Most people I know have to work for a living. Money being sent to casey while she does nothing but read.If it were left up to me she would get nothing but what the jail gave her.jmho

martha
05-22-2009, 04:15 PM
One year ago this holiday weekend, Casey.....

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_eb88afcea008ca05e63243e1c8b0b43f.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_326a075a5adbb3778d448cac946e5b75.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_069fc0cfc2df8df9fa9a4b02b5d9e829.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447722_8550.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447720_6516.htm I bet she will not be wearing a flag this year. no party for casey I hope and pray. She is where she needs to be.jmho

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:16 PM
One year ago this holiday weekend, Casey.....

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_eb88afcea008ca05e63243e1c8b0b43f.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_326a075a5adbb3778d448cac946e5b75.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/l_069fc0cfc2df8df9fa9a4b02b5d9e829.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447722_8550.htm

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/1/lg/n501759499_447720_6516.htm

I just threw up my lunch.

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:21 PM
Afternoon Buttoneyes. :seeya:

It doesn't match. I was glad Morgan & Morgan asked her about it. I am sure they (and LE) will be able to determine if Annie was lying about the ticket. jmo

Anyone know Annie's middle name?

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:24 PM
I just threw up my lunch.



ditto. What a disrespectful little brat. Didn't her parents teach her ANYTHING?

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:26 PM
Anyone know Annie's middle name?



"Leigh"?? (not sure, though)

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:27 PM
ditto. What a disrespectful little brat. Didn't her parents teach her ANYTHING?

I think they taught her how to lie.

desmom
05-22-2009, 04:30 PM
Hi desmom,

I haven't even read or listened to Annie's depo. Got on here hoping somebody would do the work for me.:tonguewag: Anyway, I saw your post, then had to dig through the rest to see if there was any comment on it as this was the area I was hoping would be probed in depth by M & M.

I had a peek at another website and learned that there was a break in the depo during which it is believed that questioning was continued in this area, but the material was not released yesterday. Hmmmmm...:huh:

bolding mine... Made me look. :lol:

They did take a break! Thanks!

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:32 PM
I think they taught her how to lie.


They forgot to teach her not to desecrate the flag. :cursing:

Chardonnay
05-22-2009, 04:34 PM
I have a silly, off the wall question... Would KC wash her under garments in her cell sink, or does the jail do immates laundry? I've seen on LockUp Raw shows that those inmates wash their clothes in the toilet or sink and hang them to dry around their cell. I figured I'd ask this burning question since the board is slow..

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:37 PM
"Leigh"?? (not sure, though)

Well, all I know is that in traffic court records there is an Annie Leigh Downing, an Annie D. Downing, and an Annie L. Downing all with the same birthdate of 8/30/1985. Hmmmm.

Annie L. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie D. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie Leigh had several. One was 7/17/07, and the other was 4/9/08. Something is also listed for 6/6/08.

I don't know if these are the date of offenses, or extentions, or payments, etc.

It sure is confusing.

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:40 PM
I have a silly, off the wall question... Would KC wash her under garments in her cell sink, or does the jail do immates laundry? I've seen on LockUp Raw shows that those inmates wash their clothes in the toilet or sink and hang them to dry around their cell. I figured I'd ask this burning question since the board is slow..

I really don't know the answer to your question.

YUCK! I sure wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. If I would have been that skank's mother, I wouldn't have even let her sit down in my bathtub.

eagleeer
05-22-2009, 04:41 PM
I have a silly, off the wall question... Would KC wash her under garments in her cell sink, or does the jail do immates laundry? I've seen on LockUp Raw shows that those inmates wash their clothes in the toilet or sink and hang them to dry around their cell. I figured I'd ask this burning question since the board is slow..

What leads you to believe that she even wears undergarments as you call them? Ok, I am being a smarta$$ today. :laugh:

desmom
05-22-2009, 04:42 PM
Well, all I know is that in traffic court records there is an Annie Leigh Downing, an Annie D. Downing, and an Annie L. Downing all with the same birthdate of 8/30/1985. Hmmmm.

Annie L. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie D. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie Leigh had several. One was 7/17/07, and the other was 4/9/08. Something is also listed for 6/6/08.

I don't know if these are the date of offenses, or extentions, or payments, etc.

It sure is confusing.

And they all share the same birthday. jmo

seeing_eye
05-22-2009, 04:45 PM
I think they taught her how to lie.

By example.......

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:45 PM
And they all share the same birthday. jmo

Yep, what a coinky dink.

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:48 PM
What leads you to believe that she even wears undergarments as you call them? Ok, I am being a smarta$$ today. :laugh:

Better to be a smart a$$ than the mood I'm in. I am pi$$ed off and in pain. My stupid back surgery has gone haywire. I had facet screws put in my back and they've decided to cause me problems, and now my doctor is talking more surgery with pedicle screws. I can't take much more. Sorry, I'm ranting. I'll shut up now.

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:50 PM
Well, all I know is that in traffic court records there is an Annie Leigh Downing, an Annie D. Downing, and an Annie L. Downing all with the same birthdate of 8/30/1985. Hmmmm.

Annie L. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie D. had a traffic violation in 2004.

Annie Leigh had several. One was 7/17/07, and the other was 4/9/08. Something is also listed for 6/6/08.

I don't know if these are the date of offenses, or extentions, or payments, etc.

It sure is confusing.


Are we sure her given name is "Annie" and not "Anne/Ann"?

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:51 PM
Better to be a smart a$$ than the mood I'm in. I am pi$$ed off and in pain. My stupid back surgery has gone haywire. I had facet screws put in my back and they've decided to cause me problems, and now my doctor is talking more surgery with pedicle screws. I can't take much more. Sorry, I'm ranting. I'll shut up now.

Oh dear, ml. I am so sorry. The pain must be unbearable. I have a bad back and it always hurts. Can't imagine what YOU are going through. :sad:

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:52 PM
Are we sure her given name is "Annie" and not "Anne/Ann"?

Not sure jammies. That's the only name I've heard her go by.

desmom
05-22-2009, 04:52 PM
Are we sure her given name is "Annie" and not "Anne/Ann"?

In the depo she stated her name is Annie Downing.

missinglink
05-22-2009, 04:55 PM
Oh dear, ml. I am so sorry. The pain must be unbearable. I have a bad back and it always hurts. Can't imagine what YOU are going through. :sad:

Thanks jammies. I didn't mean to go O/T. This board is about Caylee and I apologize to everyone.

jammies
05-22-2009, 04:56 PM
In the depo she stated her name is Annie Downing.


Yes, but that could be just what she goes by. ???

Peter
05-22-2009, 05:05 PM
I have a silly, off the wall question... Would KC wash her under garments in her cell sink, or does the jail do immates laundry? I've seen on LockUp Raw shows that those inmates wash their clothes in the toilet or sink and hang them to dry around their cell. I figured I'd ask this burning question since the board is slow..

I remember seeing a show where the inmates do all the laundry, and if they dont like you or you dont give them cigs or treats your clothes dont really seem clean. For a little something extra they fold them real nice!
So....I hope this helps with your question. And Casey should prolly wash her own clothes.

what else is doing today my blogger friends?

AMS
05-22-2009, 05:14 PM
Better to be a smart a$$ than the mood I'm in. I am pi$$ed off and in pain. My stupid back surgery has gone haywire. I had facet screws put in my back and they've decided to cause me problems, and now my doctor is talking more surgery with pedicle screws. I can't take much more. Sorry, I'm ranting. I'll shut up now.

You can rant. We are here for you! I am so sorry about your back. :sad:

imo

desmom
05-22-2009, 05:15 PM
Yes, but that could be just what she goes by. ???

:shrug:

LE lists her name in their Supplemental Reports under witness information as "Annie Leigh Downing". page 2 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf

missinglink
05-22-2009, 05:22 PM
:shrug:

LE lists her name in their Supplemental Reports under witness information as "Annie Leigh Downing". page 2 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf

I swear. I think Annie Downing knows something more about those tickets. Just too coincidental, imo.

In her depo, she said it's been a "good" year. Well, of course it's been a year. I guess it's possible Casey was the "Zenaida Gonzalez" that got a ticket that same day, and maybe Annie didn't know Casey had a fake ID. I wish Morgan would have asked her if she knew if Casey might have gotten a ticket the same day as her, May 24.

missinglink
05-22-2009, 05:26 PM
You can rant. We are here for you! I am so sorry about your back. :sad:

imo

Thanks. I'll be okay.

At least if I ever go missing, I can be identified by my "hardware"! I have an artificial mitral valve too and it has a specific serial number on it!

Back on topic, I'm glad that the civil case is still on and can't wait for Cynthia and George to answer more questions.

AMS
05-22-2009, 05:30 PM
Has anyone heard if Brad Conway's back is better?

imo

lizzard
05-22-2009, 05:31 PM
I remember seeing a show where the inmates do all the laundry, and if they dont like you or you dont give them cigs or treats your clothes dont really seem clean. For a little something extra they fold them real nice!
So....I hope this helps with your question. And Casey should prolly wash her own clothes.

what else is doing today my blogger friends?

Speaking only for myself, being fat, lazy, sad, stupid and unrepentant. Did I miss anything there?

To all my American friends, :patriot:

Peter
05-22-2009, 05:32 PM
I swear. I think Annie Downing knows something more about those tickets. Just too coincidental, imo.

In her depo, she said it's been a "good" year. Well, of course it's been a year. I guess it's possible Casey was the "Zenaida Gonzalez" that got a ticket that same day, and maybe Annie didn't know Casey had a fake ID. I wish Morgan would have asked her if she knew if Casey might have gotten a ticket the same day as her, May 24.


i think Annie meant "good" year as in a solid year. I could be wrong.
I have studied the ticket thing. I also dont think Casey needed a fake ID to say she was ZG.
It seems to me it would be easy to clear this up if it showed somewhere on the ticket what darn car was being driven by this ZG.
I dont know if Annie would be bold enough to lie about being with Casey at the time of the ticket. She's gotta know by now that they know the answers to what they are asking.:confused:

Peter
05-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Speaking only for myself, being fat, lazy, sad, stupid and unrepentant. Did I miss anything there?

To all my American friends, :patriot:


naw, not much going on, you can go back to sleep. I'll PM you if Cindy makes Chilli tonite. JK

missinglink
05-22-2009, 05:41 PM
i think Annie meant "good" year as in a solid year. I could be wrong.
I have studied the ticket thing. I also dont think Casey needed a fake ID to say she was ZG.
It seems to me it would be easy to clear this up if it showed somewhere on the ticket what darn car was being driven by this ZG.
I dont know if Annie would be bold enough to lie about being with Casey at the time of the ticket. She's gotta know by now that they know the answers to what they are asking.:confused:

Well, her depo was taken yesterday, May 21. That's a solid year minus 3 days. Close enough for me. I bet Annie's last speeding ticket was May 24. KWIM?

Tornado
05-22-2009, 05:47 PM
Not sure jammies. That's the only name I've heard her go by.

The information that I have seen on blink and gone as far as to look them up at Orange county clerks office (online of course) is listed as Annie downing. No middle initial but the offense was on 5/24/2008. Will be a year ago Sunday-

both tickets that are displayed show that the cited ZG was a driver and the Annie Downing was a driver as well. Had to be two seperate cars for sure. Now I have not noted a time that these happened on either ticket but I will have to look at them a little closer to see what happens.

FYI- Annies ticket is paid. Only one of the two tickets that this ZG was issued that day have been paid. To me, there has to be some sort of relevance to this because Morgan brought it up in a depo.

Peter
05-22-2009, 05:52 PM
The information that I have seen on blink and gone as far as to look them up at Orange county clerks office (online of course) is listed as Annie downing. No middle initial but the offense was on 5/24/2008. Will be a year ago Sunday-

both tickets that are displayed show that the cited ZG was a driver and the Annie Downing was a driver as well. Had to be two seperate cars for sure. Now I have not noted a time that these happened on either ticket but I will have to look at them a little closer to see what happens.

FYI- Annies ticket is paid. Only one of the two tickets that this ZG was issued that day have been paid. To me, there has to be some sort of relevance to this because Morgan brought it up in a depo.

thats the problem I see: Where is the critical info on the ticket that would clear all of this up in a nanosecond?
time?
type of vehicle?
address of offender?

Doesnt LE run a check on you when you dont carry your license with you?
Maybe dating LE guys does have its benefits?

Heyes
05-22-2009, 05:56 PM
Has anyone heard if Brad Conway's back is better?

imo

Nope haven't heard a word.
But I bet it's much better.
In fact I bet he's feeling just peachy after court was canceled and he didn't have to bring a dr.s note. :biggrin:

martha
05-22-2009, 06:05 PM
Nope haven't heard a word.
But I bet it's much better.
In fact I bet he's feeling just peachy after court was canceled and he didn't have to bring a dr.s note. :biggrin:
I bet he is fine today. I really think he don;t know what to do with g and c he would not let them ans.but he could not come up with anything good eather. If he knew what was good for him he would get out now. jmho

lizzard
05-22-2009, 06:07 PM
Nope haven't heard a word.
But I bet it's much better.
In fact I bet he's feeling just peachy after court was canceled and he didn't have to bring a dr.s note. :biggrin:

Yup, the universal cure-all. He should market it and sell it, might be the only income he has for a while.:wink:

imo

Tornado
05-22-2009, 06:07 PM
thats the problem I see: Where is the critical info on the ticket that would clear all of this up in a nanosecond?
time?
type of vehicle?
address of offender?

Doesnt LE run a check on you when you dont carry your license with you?
Maybe dating LE guys does have its benefits?

I have tried to search fopr an image of the original ticket but I am having no luck. They will run a search on you no matter whether you have a license on you or not. What is on Orange county is pretty much the same thing that is posted in the article but I did note that it is the same officer listed on both of these tickets for Annie and ZG. Nejame is the name listed.

AMS
05-22-2009, 06:10 PM
I have tried to search fopr an image of the original ticket but I am having no luck. They will run a search on you no matter whether you have a license on you or not. What is on Orange county is pretty much the same thing that is posted in the article but I did note that it is the same officer listed on both of these tickets for Annie and ZG. Nejame is the name listed.

Nejame??? Now that is interesting. Does Mark Nejame have a son or brother?

Not many degrees of separation between this bunch.

imo

Peter
05-22-2009, 06:21 PM
I have tried to search fopr an image of the original ticket but I am having no luck. They will run a search on you no matter whether you have a license on you or not. What is on Orange county is pretty much the same thing that is posted in the article but I did note that it is the same officer listed on both of these tickets for Annie and ZG. Nejame is the name listed.

I think there is more to this. IF in fact Casey did use a fake ZG name when stopped by LE and LE has proof, that might be the reason for the DP being brought back, as it shows premeditation and concludes the fact that ZG is Caseys creation/alias.

Tornado
05-22-2009, 06:24 PM
I think there is more to this. IF in fact Casey did use a fake ZG name when stopped by LE and LE has proof, that might be the reason for the DP being brought back, as it shows premeditation and concludes the fact that ZG is Caseys creation/alias.

ICA- I don't think that Morgan and clan would have brought it up in a depo if there is not something to it. I am thinking that they knew the answer to the question before it was asked-

desmom
05-22-2009, 06:24 PM
i think Annie meant "good" year as in a solid year. I could be wrong.
I have studied the ticket thing. I also dont think Casey needed a fake ID to say she was ZG.
It seems to me it would be easy to clear this up if it showed somewhere on the ticket what darn car was being driven by this ZG.
I dont know if Annie would be bold enough to lie about being with Casey at the time of the ticket. She's gotta know by now that they know the answers to what they are asking.:confused:

Didn't Casey have a couple of tickets...no proof of insurance and an unsafe equipment or something? What if G & C threatened to take the car away from Casey if she received any more tickets? If she was stopped, Casey could hand over the ZG DL.

:punch: Wait a minute! What am I thinking!?! If there was no discipline over ripping off her grandparents, her parents, Caylee's piggy bank and savings account, why would I think they would take her car away.

jmo

desmom
05-22-2009, 06:32 PM
I have tried to search fopr an image of the original ticket but I am having no luck. They will run a search on you no matter whether you have a license on you or not. What is on Orange county is pretty much the same thing that is posted in the article but I did note that it is the same officer listed on both of these tickets for Annie and ZG. Nejame is the name listed.

Am I looking at the wrong records? The records I looked at show Officer Narvaez on ZG's ticket and Officer Crenshaw on Annie's ticket. TIA

:confused: