Wednesday, May 20, 2009

[desmom]

Good Morning! New Day, New Thread, Today's Headlines!

Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

Haleigh's Dad: Case Not Like Caylee's
Ronald Cummings' Attorneys Issue News Release
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19505210/detail.html

Civil Case Against Anthony Can Proceed
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19500744/detail.html

Zenaida’s Civil Suit Against Casey Moves Forward
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/19/caseys_civil_lawyer_wants_zenaidas_case_dismissed. html

Padilla Says George Anthony's Story Is Untrue
http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html

[Explorer]

Good Morning! New Day, New Thread, Today's Headlines!

Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

Haleigh's Dad: Case Not Like Caylee's
Ronald Cummings' Attorneys Issue News Release
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19505210/detail.html

Civil Case Against Anthony Can Proceed
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19500744/detail.html

Zenaida’s Civil Suit Against Casey Moves Forward
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/19/caseys_civil_lawyer_wants_zenaidas_case_dismissed. html

Padilla Says George Anthony's Story Is Untrue
http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html

Thanks for the links. I so admire Ron for standing up for his daughter Haleigh and kicking the a's to the curb. Something tells me they are NOT going to go away from the Haleigh case. They are THAT DISRESPECTFUL!

[Explorer]

They latched their blood sucking fangs into the Haleigh case.

[camracrazy]

Originally posted by Dianna on the Tuesday thread:

Based on what I have read and the twists and turns I doubt this was premeditated murder. Casey would have had a better alibi or story prepared other than everything that left out of her mouth was a lie.
I think from what I have read Cindy and Casey has a big blow out and off into the streets she went with Caylee, madder then hell. So angry at her mother, what a better way to even up a score with Cindy. Take something that was so precious to her. Obviously these precious moments never pertained to Casey when it came to her own baby.

I hope this makes some sort of sense since I have had only a few hours of sleep.
JMHO

I hate known two habitual/pathological liars in my lifetime. They were both readily believed by most of those around them because they could be very charming and convincing. One was a family member and believe me, if he would have told his parents that the moon was purple with green polka dots, they would have sworn to it in a court of law no matter how foolish it made them seem. Remind you of anyone??

From the behavior I have witnessed, I don't really believe that people like that make up their lies and stories well in advance. They are so used to people taking what they say at face value, that they really don't believe they have to. I also think that part of the "thrill" they get from it is making up a story on the spur of the moment and flying by the seat of their pants. I think Casey was probably shocked when the police didn't coddle her and believe her. Also these people don't seem to think in the long term. The family member I spoke of convinced one of his friends to call his (the family member's) brother and tell the brother that he had died right around Christmas a couple of years ago. Of course it didn't take too long to figure out the story was a fake. I wasn't so shocked that the family member would lie but I was kind of shocked that he found someone boneheaded enough to go along with the whole thing. :cursing:

[ellegna]

Thanks for the links. I so admire Ron for standing up for his daughter Haleigh and kicking the a's to the curb. Something tells me they are NOT going to go away from the Haleigh case. They are THAT DISRESPECTFUL!

Good morning everyone

I admire Ron too and hope his public statement keep the A's away once and for all.
BTW...Didn't Haleigh's grandfather tell George the first visit to go and clean up your own house first? I would have been embarrassed and definitely would not return a second time. Guess George didn't hear him.

[ellegna]

Haleigh Cummings' dad wants help finding her — but not from Anthonys (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-haleigh-cummings-anthonys-052009,0,5768443.story)

I would love to see the look on Cindy's face opening the paper and seeing that headline.

[Lavinia]

Originally posted by Dianna on the Tuesday thread:



I hate known two habitual/pathological liars in my lifetime. They were both readily believed by most of those around them because they could be very charming and convincing. One was a family member and believe me, if he would have told his parents that the moon was purple with green polka dots, they would have sworn to it in a court of law no matter how foolish it made them seem. Remind you of anyone??

From the behavior I have witnessed, I don't really believe that people like that make up their lies and stories well in advance. They are so used to people taking what they say at face value, that they really don't believe they have to. I also think that part of the "thrill" they get from it is making up a story on the spur of the moment and flying by the seat of their pants. I think Casey was probably shocked when the police didn't coddle her and believe her. Also these people don't seem to think in the long term. The family member I spoke of convinced one of his friends to call his (the family member's) brother and tell the brother that he had died right around Christmas a couple of years ago. Of course it didn't take too long to figure out the story was a fake. I wasn't so shocked that the family member would lie but I was kind of shocked that he found someone boneheaded enough to go along with the whole thing. :cursing:

<coloring mine.>

I like the Freudian slip that you led with camracrazy. LOL. Very appropriate! I think they get by with the lying so much, too, because most of us don't automatically assume that everything someone says is a lie and they therefore get the benefit of the doubt by default. It's not until you start getting burned by someone do you start parsing out their words, IMO.

Good morning all. :seeya: I'm hoping for another fruitful day like yesterday. :thumbsup:

[AMS]

Good morning -

Tuesday - A Day in the Life of the Anthony's

- there is a website set up satirizing the Caylee Bears

- they are voted off the island by Ronald Cummings family

- the civil lawsuit they want dropped can proceed, expanded to seek punitive damages

- there is talk that Cindy's name might be added to the civil lawsuit

- Padilla blows a hole in George's big story about the last time Caylee was seen


Maybe they should take this as a sign to stop yapping, forget raising money for the time being and lay low...

imo

[jammies]

Originally posted by Dianna on the Tuesday thread:



I hate known two habitual/pathological liars in my lifetime. They were both readily believed by most of those around them because they could be very charming and convincing. One was a family member and believe me, if he would have told his parents that the moon was purple with green polka dots, they would have sworn to it in a court of law no matter how foolish it made them seem. Remind you of anyone??

From the behavior I have witnessed, I don't really believe that people like that make up their lies and stories well in advance. They are so used to people taking what they say at face value, that they really don't believe they have to. I also think that part of the "thrill" they get from it is making up a story on the spur of the moment and flying by the seat of their pants. I think Casey was probably shocked when the police didn't coddle her and believe her. Also these people don't seem to think in the long term. The family member I spoke of convinced one of his friends to call his (the family member's) brother and tell the brother that he had died right around Christmas a couple of years ago. Of course it didn't take too long to figure out the story was a fake. I wasn't so shocked that the family member would lie but I was kind of shocked that he found someone boneheaded enough to go along with the whole thing. :cursing:

I agree with your post.
I don't think Casey ever thought that even if her parents found out the truth about Caylee they would call police. She figured she could weasel her way out of it and they would help her w/the coverup.....as usual. I also believe she thought her parents could get her OUT OF the mess once she was arrested. Remember how angry she was that they didn't bail her out?
When Casey stole money it was Cindy that paid it back. They have enabled her to the point she never HAD to think ahead because they bought everything she told them or pretended to. They never let her grow up and be accountable and they still aid and abet her lies.

I still believe if Cindy knew how this would all go down she would never ever have made that 3rd 911 call. Part of her angry demeaner is at her own self. She lost control of everything by making that last phone call and she knows it.

On another note: Odd how what's the most important to Cindy is the big blow up. She does NOT want that getting out and will deny, lie to her dying day about the 15th. Why is that so important in the long run? Any normal person would have reacted the same way as she did that night. Why force her husband to lie and make up a story to back her up? Is it her guilt or is it that they found out someway, somehow that Caylee died that very same evening? Why do they distance themselves from that evening. Does it really matter what day she died? 15th, 16th, 17th....whatever. Caylee is dead and Cindy spends every waking moment making sure she distances herself from the "event". I don't believe that's for Casey's sake but for her own.

[Jeepers]

Good morning, I have not posted in awhile but, I have been keeping up with the A's and the Haleigh case.
I just wanted to say that I am glad the judge did not dismiss the defamation suit and added the punitive damages.
I hope that will send a message to G & C to shut up. I am hoping that the state will ask them about every statement they have given when the trial starts. I would like to see C talk to them in court the way she spoke with Mr. Morgan and Mr. Mitnik. That would be entertaining.

I was one of those who held out long hope that G would do the right thing but after his lame attempt of suicide and his spouting his undying loyalty to Casey I gave up.

Justice for Caylee

[Daffodil]

I agree with your post.
I don't think Casey ever thought that even if her parents found out the truth about Caylee they would call police. She figured she could weasel her way out of it and they would help her w/the coverup.....as usual. I also believe she thought her parents could get her OUT OF the mess once she was arrested. Remember how angry she was that they didn't bail her out?
When Casey stole money it was Cindy that paid it back. They have enabled her to the point she never HAD to think ahead because they bought everything she told them or pretended to. They never let her grow up and be accountable and they still aid and abet her lies.

I still believe if Cindy knew how this would all go down she would never ever have made that 3rd 911 call. Part of her angry demeaner is at her own self. She lost control of everything by making that last phone call and she knows it.

On another note: Odd how what's the most important to Cindy is the big blow up. She does NOT want that getting out and will deny, lie to her dying day about the 15th. Why is that so important in the long run? Any normal person would have reacted the same way as she did that night. Why force her husband to lie and make up a story to back her up? Is it her guilt or is it that they found out someway, somehow that Caylee died that very same evening? Why do they distance themselves from that evening. Does it really matter what day she died? 15th, 16th, 17th....whatever. Caylee is dead and Cindy spends every waking moment making sure she distances herself from the "event". I don't believe that's for Casey's sake but for her own.



My bolding. I think that is the big argument that night. I think they either found Caylee or witnessed her death. I think that Casey and Cindy were so into the heat of an argument that they either forgot Caylee in the pool or didn't see her go in. That is just one of my theories.

[jammies]

Good morning -

Tuesday - A Day in the Life of the Anthony's

- there is a website set up satirizing the Caylee Bears

- they are voted off the island by Ronald Cummings family

- the civil lawsuit they want dropped can proceed, expanded to seek punitive damages

- there is talk that Cindy's name might be added to the civil lawsuit

- Padilla blows a hole in George's big story about the last time Caylee was seen


Maybe they should take this as a sign to stop yapping, forget raising money for the time being and lay low...

imo


But they won't. That would mean sitting home, reflecting and coming to terms with their situation. Maybe even actually grieving. Why would they change a lifetime of delusions at this point?

[jammies]

My bolding. I think that is the big argument that night. I think they either found Caylee or witnessed her death. I think that Casey and Cindy were so into the heat of an argument that they either forgot Caylee in the pool or didn't see her go in. That is just one of my theories.

That was one theory I tossed around too. Buried her in the yard and Casey moved her. Cindy wanted her back.

[Daffodil]

That was one theory I tossed around too. Buried her in the yard and Casey moved her. Cindy wanted her back.


Cindy freaked out because Casey wouldn't tell her where she put the body. Control issue.


I wonder if Casey will tell what happened at the trial. She has nothing to lose by telling the truth. But I don't think she ever really thinks about her options.

[playnice]

All they have done is spew venum, point at innosent people, and make everything worse for Casey. They make their daughter look guilty.
Its too late for them now even if someone could put a cork in Cindys mouth. Months and months are out there of their ever changing stories and very bad behavior. They have made it more obvious and believable why their daughter is an OC. They set the background for it with their behavior .

[msgatorslayer]

Haleigh Cummings' dad wants help finding her — but not from Anthonys (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-haleigh-cummings-anthonys-052009,0,5768443.story)

I would love to see the look on Cindy's face opening the paper and seeing that headline.

He must be a blogger.:wink:

I'm estatic to see this in writing. Ron's blood probably boils when he sees the way the Anthony's act. He doesn't know the fate of his Daughter. He's hopeful that she's alive and will be found. Then, there are the Athony's. Nuff said.

Kinda O/T but there is an article in my paper this morning about a Mom who could have faced 30 in prison for the death of her child. Instead, she took a plea deal and will spend 2 years for child abuse.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1002407.ece

[msgatorslayer]

Good morning -

Tuesday - A Day in the Life of the Anthony's

- there is a website set up satirizing the Caylee Bears

- they are voted off the island by Ronald Cummings family

- the civil lawsuit they want dropped can proceed, expanded to seek punitive damages

- there is talk that Cindy's name might be added to the civil lawsuit

- Padilla blows a hole in George's big story about the last time Caylee was seen


Maybe they should take this as a sign to stop yapping, forget raising money for the time being and lay low...

imo

That sums it up nicely.

Pass the gum and water, call it a day!:laugh:

[AMS]

Someone is writing a fairy tale: The Tale of King George and Queen Cindy

She has 4 parts so far. You have to scroll down to start with Part 1.

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/


imo

[Lavinia]

Good morning -

Tuesday - A Day in the Life of the Anthony's

- there is a website set up satirizing the Caylee Bears

- they are voted off the island by Ronald Cummings family

- the civil lawsuit they want dropped can proceed, expanded to seek punitive damages

- there is talk that Cindy's name might be added to the civil lawsuit

- Padilla blows a hole in George's big story about the last time Caylee was seen


Maybe they should take this as a sign to stop yapping, forget raising money for the time being and lay low...

imo


Good morning AMS! :wub:

Yanno, if the A's really have Casey's interest in their heart, they may someday be glad that all this has happened. They apparently, just like their daughter, need to have external controls in place for their behavior since it seems they can't control it on their own. Just goes to show you, if you continue to show abhorrent, aberrant behaviors, society will seek measures to control it and society WILL win, Cindy's will be damned.

[Scampi]

He must be a blogger.:wink:

I'm estatic to see this in writing. Ron's blood probably boils when he sees the way the Anthony's act. He doesn't know the fate of his Daughter. He's hopeful that she's alive and will be found. Then, there are the Athony's. Nuff said.

Kinda O/T but there is an article in my paper this morning about a Mom who could have faced 30 in prison for the death of her child. Instead, she took a plea deal and will spend 2 years for child abuse.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1002407.ece


Thank you gator for this article. I think someway, some how there will be those that make sure the odious creature is informed of this case.

Just a reminder, premeditation can occur in a blink of an eye and I think it is present in this case.

I love that this defamation suit is going forward, because now that the Judge has ruled there can be punitive damages requested, this gives Morgan and Mitnik permission to go after info on casey anthony's finances in a huge way. If cindy is added to the action, the same pertains to her finances. This imo, it the critical news coming out of yesterday's hearing.

Anything found out about nefarious financing will be shared with LE, imo.

The anthonys are only now just seeing the fallout from their despicable actions. imo.

[msgatorslayer]

Someone is writing a fairy tale: The Tale of King George and Queen Cindy

She has 4 parts so far. You have to scroll down to start with Part 1.

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/


imo

:lol: It's a rotten cabbage.

[Lavinia]

:lol: It's a rotten cabbage.

Your son, "Lee of Lackabrain"...:laugh:

[Myka]

with the soaking Florida is getting, does anyone know if the spot where Caylee was found is flooded yet?

[Explorer]

I wonder if the a's know what a bad joke they have become.

[msgatorslayer]

with the soaking Florida is getting, does anyone know if the spot where Caylee was found is flooded yet?

There is a poster who will be checking it out.

I know in my area, spots that are accustomed to flooding have been doing just that.

It is a record to have 8 straight days of rain in the month of May. This is normally a dry month.

[marinewife5]

He must be a blogger.:wink:

I'm estatic to see this in writing. Ron's blood probably boils when he sees the way the Anthony's act. He doesn't know the fate of his Daughter. He's hopeful that she's alive and will be found. Then, there are the Athony's. Nuff said.

Kinda O/T but there is an article in my paper this morning about a Mom who could have faced 30 in prison for the death of her child. Instead, she took a plea deal and will spend 2 years for child abuse.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1002407.ece


It has got to be killing Cindy to not go in front of a camera and respond to Ron's statement. I hope Brad was close by to hear her response to that statement so maybe he can finally wake up to who he is dealing with.

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

I wonder if the a's know what a bad joke they have become.

I'm sure they do. Queen Cindy, who likes bashing the bloggers, is on the net all the time reading up, IMO. She just doesn't care what others think of her. It's her universe, you're in it, or you're not. Doesn't matter to her. IMO

[snowflakes]

I wonder if the a's know what a bad joke they have become.

I wonder if they read here.
I also wonder if they know how many websites are devoted to them.

[Neffy]

Your son, "Lee of Lackabrain"...:laugh:

“rotten cabbages, absinthe, and a key does not a murderess make!”

LMAO - Post Haste!

[msgatorslayer]

It has got to be killing Cindy to not go in front of a camera and respond to Ron's statement. I hope Brad was close by to hear her response to that statement so maybe he can finally wake up to who he is dealing with.

jmo

I think the community would 100% be behind the Anthony's if they were truthful and wanted to be the poster family for Grand Parent rights. It is something that is very much needed and I believe with their family being in the situation it is, they could push for those rights and stand a great chance of succeding.

[jammies]

Someone is writing a fairy tale: The Tale of King George and Queen Cindy

She has 4 parts so far. You have to scroll down to start with Part 1.

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/


imo


"Lee of Lackabrain" :laugh:

[Explorer]

It has got to be killing Cindy to not go in front of a camera and respond to Ron's statement. I hope Brad was close by to hear her response to that statement so maybe he can finally wake up to who he is dealing with.

jmo

The a's will try to involve themselves in the Haleigh case ANYWAY regardless of Rons wishes. I hope Ron keeps fighting them. I really hope that little Haleigh will be found that would be music to my ears.

[Myka]

There is a poster who will be checking it out.

I know in my area, spots that are accustomed to flooding have been doing just that.

It is a record to have 8 straight days of rain in the month of May. This is normally a dry month.

yes, I see a flood watch is in effect and you guys might have 3 more days of it untill it travels west and ruins our weekend along the Gulf Coast.

[ellegna]

It has got to be killing Cindy to not go in front of a camera and respond to Ron's statement. I hope Brad was close by to hear her response to that statement so maybe he can finally wake up to who he is dealing with.

jmo

JMHO of course but I'm sure Brad knew exactly who/what he's dealing with a long time ago. It's escalating now and Brad is having problems keeping her in check

[marinewife5]

The a's will try to involve themselves in the Haleigh case ANYWAY regardless of Rons wishes. I hope Ron keeps fighting them. I really hope that little Haleigh will be found that would be music to my ears.

I just hope that the more they push to be in front of that camera, the more of their true intentions are exposed. It wasn't that long ago that the media was going on and on about what victims the A's were and how they were just grieving....one by one they all seem to be seeing the true colors.

jmo

[Explorer]

Brad looked a little shaken yesterday:thumbsup:

[ellegna]

The a's will try to involve themselves in the Haleigh case ANYWAY regardless of Rons wishes. I hope Ron keeps fighting them. I really hope that little Haleigh will be found that would be music to my ears.

If the A's continue to interject themselves knowing they are not welcome, I hope Ron gets a restraining order and serves the A's with trespass too.

[Neffy]

JMHO of course but I'm sure Brad knew exactly who/what he's dealing with a long time ago. It's escalating now and Brad is having problems keeping her in check

Brad is part of the problem and is in this helping perpetuate this ridiculous nonsense. He's the one that encouraged them on this "journey" to keep going. I'm sure he's the legal entity for the "foundation".

Cindy is determined the the Haliegh abduction is going to be her same situation. She will surround herself and intermingle with persons whose tragedy she wants to perpetuate as her own. She can relate. "HER TOO".

Cindy is in charge and like Casey, will not back down and keep up the lies to the bitter end. When confronted and faced with a fact only then will she change it to another lie which makes no sense such as that nonsense that Casey didn't work to "maybe" spend more time with Caylee. What the heck?

Brad looks like crap, so does George. Cindy's feels she's never looked or felt better. This is one scary person.

The are all one in the same.

[Explorer]

I watch Nancy Grace almost every night. My young daughter has been watching. She is sooooo happy when they find a missing child. I keep telling them they really have to be careful because there are people that want to get their hands on kids and harm them. I think now they believe me.

[jammies]

Someone is writing a fairy tale: The Tale of King George and Queen Cindy

She has 4 parts so far. You have to scroll down to start with Part 1.

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/


imo


From that same website....I've never heard this audio of arrest before:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040609_Casey_Anthony_arrest_audio

[Neffy]

The Anthony's have reached satire cult proportions! . There is nothing left but to satirize their irrationality no matter how dark the crime is.

[Explorer]

Morning, ms gator!

Even if the A's did a compelete turnaround, confessed all they knew, encouraged OC to do the same, and professed complete regret, I think it would be too late. I, for one, would question their motives.

Thats what I think. The a's crossed the line and they are not credible. The fact that they would see an innocent person go to jail in place of their own guilty daughter says this goes beyond anything that can be repaired.

[msgatorslayer]

If the A's continue to interject themselves knowing they are not welcome, I hope Ron gets a restraining order and serves the A's with trespass too.

ITA - Ron saying he doesn't want the Anthony's involved was a smart move on his part. He knows how the public feels about them. To form an alliance with them would be bad PR. And he needs all the good PR he can get. His Haleigh is still missing.

IMO, the Anthony's showing up to a missing child case is equal to OJ rolling up to console a Husband who's wife was just really murdered.

[ellegna]

Brad is part of the problem and is in this helping perpetuate this ridiculous nonsense. He's the one that encouraged them on this "journey" to keep going. I'm sure he's the legal entity for the "foundation".

Cindy is determined the the Haliegh abduction is going to be her same situation. She will surround herself and intermingle with persons whose tragedy she wants to perpetuate as her own. She can relate. "HER TOO".

Cindy is in charge and like Casey, will not back down and keep up the lies to the bitter end. When confronted and faced with a fact only then will she change it to another lie which makes no sense such as that nonsense that Casey didn't work to "maybe" spend more time with Caylee. What the heck?

Brad looks like crap, so does George. Cindy's feels she's never looked or felt better. This is one scary person.

The are all one in the same.

I agree totally Brad is part of the problem. He should have harnessed and muzzled the both of them months ago. Sadly, it appears he's assimilated into an Anthony too.

[trich]

What I find so noticeable about Ron not wanting any involvement from the Anthonys is that a law firm issued the statement.
I think that should be a warning, sort of speak,to Cindy and George
that they had better butt out.
If they have any sense they had better keep their mouths shut about Haleigh or they might find themselves being sued too.
Certainly they had better not try to be solliciting any donations with her name attached.:mad:

[msgatorslayer]

Morning, ms gator!

Even if the A's did a compelete turnaround, confessed all they knew, encouraged OC to do the same, and professed complete regret, I think it would be too late. I, for one, would question their motives.

Opps, you're right. I should have made that past tense. I should have said "IF they had". I agree, it is too late now.

[Explorer]

I agree totally Brad is part of the problem. He should have harnessed and muzzled the both of them months ago. Sadly, it appears he's assimilated into an Anthony too.

Thats because hes a crummy lawyer. Is this his only case?

[Neffy]

Morning, ms gator!

Even if the A's did a compelete turnaround, confessed all they knew, encouraged OC to do the same, and professed complete regret, I think it would be too late. I, for one, would question their motives.

Well yes and no. Should they ever turn around it will take awhile to for the backlash to wear down and some never will. At least half will in time IMO. They may even get "thousands" of real backers instead of the pretend ones they currently claim.

[Neffy]

What I find so noticeable about Ron not wanting any involvement from the Anthonys is that a law firm issued the statement.
I think that should be a warning, sort of speak,to Cindy and George
that they had better butt out.
If they have any sense they had better keep their mouths shut about Haleigh or they might find themselves being sued too.
Certainly they had better not try to be solliciting any donations with her name attached.:mad:

I haven't followed the Haliegh case but from my understanding getting the attorney to make this statement is actually stage 2. George was told to go home off the record when he was out there. Looks like they didn't listen. Stage two go public with a statement from an Attorney.

[msgatorslayer]

Thats because hes a crummy lawyer. Is this his only case?

I find it funny that they DON'T have a high profile attorney.

[Explorer]

I haven't followed the Haliegh case but from my understanding getting the attorney to make this statement is actually stage 2. George was told to go home off the record when he was out there. Looks like they didn't listen. Stage to go public with a statement from an Attorney.

I dont think the a's should mess with Ron:scared:

[ellegna]

ITA - Ron saying he doesn't want the Anthony's involved was a smart move on his part. He knows how the public feels about them. To form an alliance with them would be bad PR. And he needs all the good PR he can get. His Haleigh is still missing.

IMO, the Anthony's showing up to a missing child case is equal to OJ rolling up to console a Husband who's wife was just really murdered.

Exactly. It's out there officially the A's must stay away. Their presence is upsetting the Cummings Family. If they continue to show up, that is harassment as far as I'm concerned

[msgatorslayer]

I haven't followed the Haliegh case but from my understanding getting the attorney to make this statement is actually stage 2. George was told to go home off the record when he was out there. Looks like they didn't listen. Stage to go public with a statement from an Attorney.

Cindy will just reach out to Haleigh's Mom, Crystal. The parents aren't together and have seperate camps. If she's smart, she'll also stay clear of the Anthony's.

[Explorer]

The a's are very destructive with their negativity. Ron and Chrystal are at odds with one another along with the stress of missing Haleigh and the Cummings really dont need the a's to make matters worse.

[cassidy]

I haven't followed the Haliegh case but from my understanding getting the attorney to make this statement is actually stage 2. George was told to go home off the record when he was out there. Looks like they didn't listen. Stage to go public with a statement from an Attorney.

I don't think the Anthony's care one bit. As long as Haleigh's Mom welcomes them there, they will go. They don't give a fig's rear about the chaos they create. They just want to be on camera no matter who it hurts.

JMO

[Explorer]

Cindy will just reach out to Haleigh's Mom, Crystal. The parents aren't together and have seperate camps. If she's smart, she'll also stay clear of the Anthony's.

Ist that funny. The a's went after Chrystal.

[Explorer]

They see vulnerability in Chrystal.

[marshmallow]

I haven't followed the Haliegh case but from my understanding getting the attorney to make this statement is actually stage 2. George was told to go home off the record when he was out there. Looks like they didn't listen. Stage two go public with a statement from an Attorney.



I have my own thoughts on Haliegh's parents but in this instance Ron's doing it correctly. He had his atty. make a well worded staement for him. Ron didn't go one LKL, GMA, or any news show. He didn't screech from his front yard, he didn't show up and bully his way to our ears. HE allowed his atty. to speak for him and state his opinion clearly. Good for him. In one short moment he's out classed the Anthonys.

[marinewife5]

I don't think the Anthony's care one bit. As long as Haleigh's Mom welcomes them there, they will go. They don't give a fig's rear about the chaos they create. They just want to be on camera no matter who it hurts.

JMO

if they didn't give a hoot about the search for caylee (other than their pretend we-want-you-to-look-but-not-too-hard search) they certainly don't care if haleigh is found....they've already learned that there is more donation money in a missing child than there is a found or deceased one.

jmo

[ellegna]

Cindy will just reach out to Haleigh's Mom, Crystal. The parents aren't together and have seperate camps. If she's smart, she'll also stay clear of the Anthony's.

Crystal has a lawyer and I hope she has advised Crystal to stay clear of the A's now that Ron's attorney has made a statement

[marshmallow]

Cindy will just reach out to Haleigh's Mom, Crystal. The parents aren't together and have seperate camps. If she's smart, she'll also stay clear of the Anthony's.


She's not, she won't.

Cindy and GEorge will latch on and turn it into a Jerry Springer episode. THey'll encourage Crystal to fight at and slap down the "other side" and they'll keep the drama going. It's the Anthony way.

[marinewife5]

Ist that funny. The a's went after Chrystal.

If she's lucky, her atty will explain the liability attatched to associating with the anthony's...especially with her going for custody of ron jr. besides, to hear cindy tell it, they are with families of missing children, offering them comfort, advice, and tshirts on an almost daily basis.

jmo

[Explorer]

She's not, she won't.

Cindy and GEorge will latch on and turn it into a Jerry Springer episode. THey'll encourage Crystal to fight at and slap down the "other side" and they'll keep the drama going. It's the Anthony way.

yes I agree

[Explorer]

Wouldnt that be great if Chrystal and her atty. came out with a similar statement like Rons.

[msgatorslayer]

She's not, she won't.

Cindy and GEorge will latch on and turn it into a Jerry Springer episode. THey'll encourage Crystal to fight at and slap down the "other side" and they'll keep the drama going. It's the Anthony way.

{laughing santa}

[Jeepers]

Exactly. It's out there officially the A's must stay away. Their presence is upsetting the Cummings Family. If they continue to show up, that is harassment as far as I'm concerned

I agree with you. Ron has enough problems trying to keep the focus on his own missing daughter. The drama the A's would bring into the mix would just be over the top. moo.
George and Cindy have no respect for LE or the public. They are not needed in Satsuma. They need to slink back to Orange County and take care of the problems they created and forget about the Cummings Family and their heartbreak.
George and Cindy could have done the right thing and could have been very helpful to families with missing children but I guess that did not pay as well. The drama they keep going makes the media hungry for more. The good guys like Klass and Lundford are really not in big demand for prime time. moo.

[camracrazy]

<coloring mine.>

I like the Freudian slip that you led with camracrazy. LOL. Very appropriate! I think they get by with the lying so much, too, because most of us don't automatically assume that everything someone says is a lie and they therefore get the benefit of the doubt by default. It's not until you start getting burned by someone do you start parsing out their words, IMO.

Good morning all. :seeya: I'm hoping for another fruitful day like yesterday. :thumbsup:


I noticed that after it was too late to edit. :ohmy: It is accurate to say that I hated their behavior, though. They didn't care who or what they destroyed with their lies. The second guy, and old boyfriend, tried to ruin my relationship with my grandfather to get back at me for breaking up with him. My grandfather raised my sister and I like a father, since we didn't have one in our lives.

It's scary to think what might have happened if Casey hadn't had family members that she had to answer to about Caylee's whereabouts. I think if Casey hadn't had close family she just would have dumped all her current friends after disposing of Caylee and never told her new friends that she ever had a child. Since Caylee never went to daycare or was old enough to be enrolled in school, there wouldn't have been anyone to question why she wasn't around anymore. It makes you wonder how often something like that happens to kids that aren't "in the system" anywhere.

[Neffy]

You know that vigil was definately confusing. It was supposed to be a vigil for all missing children. Crystals mother made an on the air statement they they'd thought they'd be the only ones there. Then Cindy has her cameo (re: I know what to do get a chair nonsense when someone's knees start to buckle - like who doesn't) made it look like they were there to support Crystal, literally and figurativey. So how this even turned into being about Haliegh vs Caylee vs all missing children is beyond me.

You just have to chalk it up to more collateral damage from being in front of that bus. What a mess!

[Explorer]

Thats the way the a"s do things. They cause dissension. That is why the a family is such a big mess.

[msgatorslayer]

It's scary to think what might have happened if Casey hadn't had family members that she had to answer to about Caylee's whereabouts. I think if Casey hadn't had close family she just would have dumped all her current friends after disposing of Caylee and never told her new friends that she ever had a child. Since Caylee never went to daycare or was old enough to be enrolled in school, there wouldn't have been anyone to question why she wasn't around anymore. It makes you wonder how often something like that happens to kids that aren't "in the system" anywhere.

SNIPPED

100% agree with this. She would have disposed of her and never looked back.

[Neffy]

Thats the way the a"s do things. They cause dissension. That is why the a family is such a big mess.

Its my understanding that out of Cindy's thousands of supporters, 40 people showed up to hear her speak??

Maybe they were still at church!

[Explorer]

Its my understanding that out of Cindy's thousands of supporters, 40 people showed up to hear her speak??

Maybe they were still at church!

I wonder how much she had to pay the 40 people:biggrin:

[Explorer]

I wonder if all 40 showed up in green shirts wearing shamrock pins and shouted CMA CMA CMA

[aproudmom]

Good morning everyone

I admire Ron too I just hope it is not a stunt because CA was rubbing crystals back and as we all know that case has turned into nothing but a freaking circus and the child has been forgotten with all the bull out of ALL the parties...glad his lawyers sent out a statement and to tell you the truth CA will not give a holy crap cause she will say she was there for crystal and Haleigh..you all know she will get the last word..ALL JMO

[IM4Truth]

From that same website....I've never heard this audio of arrest before:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040609_Casey_Anthony_arrest_audio

Yes, I had heard that audio before. However, on the heels of that true-to-life fairy tale, which is very well written, by they way, I would like to hear that satirical audio that was done of Cindy & Casey where Casey tells her mom "I'm a celebrity now" and Cindy responds with something like "No, Sweeti, I am the celebrity now, not you, I have been riding around in limousines and appearing on national TV shows", etc. Then they appear to spat about who really is the celebrity. Does anyone still have that audio anywhere?

[playnice]

I wonder if all 40 showed up in green shirts wearing shamrock pins and shouted CMA CMA CMA

:laugh::laugh:

[aproudmom]

I have my own thoughts on Haliegh's parents but in this instance Ron's doing it correctly. He had his atty. make a well worded staement for him. Ron didn't go one LKL, GMA, or any news show. He didn't screech from his front yard, he didn't show up and bully his way to our ears. HE allowed his atty. to speak for him and state his opinion clearly. Good for him. In one short moment he's out classed the Anthonys.

my bolding

ITA about time someone has a few minutes of class in that case..even though I have no doubt it was done for a reason I am happy once again the Anthony's have been shot down..maybe one day they will see no one wants to have anything to do with them...

[IM4Truth]

Regarding post #4 on page 1 in response to Dianna's post on Tuesday's thread, I have to disagree with this not being pre-meditated. I strongly believe Casey was doing that research as early as March of last year, whether it was to off her parents or Caylee at that time, I'm not sure. But I certainly believe she was looking into possibilities. Would she have carried it out had this big arguement on Father's Day not taken place? We will never know, because she did in some way murder Caylee that night. She just didn't have the plans finalized with a cover-up. Maybe because she really wasn't planning on doing anything, maybe she was just researching the possiblities so she never went through with figuring out a cover-up. However, a spur of the moment anger situation caused her to murder Caylee. Casey had never gotten beyond the point of "what next" because she lived her life on the edge, one minute at a time. From there on, I do believe Casey thought she could maintain her sweet innocence with LE and they would "somehow in her own mind" believe her. Reality bites, as they say.

[Explorer]

I wonder if all 40 showed up in green shirts wearing shamrock pins and shouted CMA CMA CMA

droids:biggrin:

[IM4Truth]

Its my understanding that out of Cindy's thousands of supporters, 40 people showed up to hear her speak??

Maybe they were still at church!

Is that true? Only 40 people showed up? How sad for the other missing children. Just proof that the Anthonys repel people.

[need2no]

You know that vigil was definately confusing. It was supposed to be a vigil for all missing children. Crystals mother made an on the air statement they they'd thought they'd be the only ones there. Then Cindy has her cameo (re: I know what to do get a chair nonsense when someone's knees start to buckle - like who doesn't) made it look like they were there to support Crystal, literally and figurativey. So how this even turned into being about Haliegh vs Caylee vs all missing children is beyond me.

You just have to chalk it up to more collateral damage from being in front of that bus. What a mess!

Perhaps Crystal only invited the A's knowing the media would surely follow, or maybe they WEREN'T invited, but just showed up to turn the vigil into another Anthony 'all about me' side show.

I heard in one of the media videos that Josh Duckett was holding his own vigil that same day for Trenton. Guess the A's figured TD wouldn't draw as much media attention as Haleigh.

[msgatorslayer]

Is that true? Only 40 people showed up? How sad for the other missing children. Just proof that the Anthonys repel people.

I don't recall ever seeing 40 people show up when they had the vigils for Caylee in their front yard.

Yet thousands showed up to help TES search.

[IM4Truth]

I wouldn't be that hard on him. I don't think Cindy takes advice unless it is what she wants to hear. George told LE that he could not get Cindy to shut up either. I think Brad tries, it seems that George at least takes some of the advice to heart, but Cindy is a loose cannon.

Cindy has no contact as far as we know with Casey. I doubt Baez tells her and George very much with regard to the defense unless he needs something from them. Cindy is a control freak and right now she is not in control. All of her actions are an attempt to look as though she has some influence on the way things are going. I think LE told George in his interview that if they (Cindy and George) think they can drive the media in the direction they want it to go they are mistaken. The media will drive the case the way it wants to and if George and Cindy get in the way, BOOM. That is exactly the way it is happening and Cindy cannot handle it. Brad is just trying to minimize the damage she causes, and not having much luck. I would not be surprised to see him
bow out. I wish he would. Maybe they will pay more attention to an attorney they have to PAY for advice.

ITA, I posted last night that after the finger-flipping incident by Cindy in the courtroom, Brad should take that as his chance to run! It sure makes him look bad.

[Pam1569]

Cindy will just reach out to Haleigh's Mom, Crystal. The parents aren't together and have seperate camps. If she's smart, she'll also stay clear of the Anthony's.

GM msgator, IMO Haleigh's mom is not going to stay away from the Anthony's. According to the D&A site she has (or maybe her mother) the detective agency looking for Haleigh.

http://dgator.com/HaleighAnnMarieCummings.aspx

I wish that this wasn't so but I think that the Anthony's are going to use this poor missing child to start their appearances more now. jmo :crying:

[Explorer]

ITA, I posted last night that after the finger-flipping incident by Cindy in the courtroom, Brad should take that as his chance to run! It sure makes him look bad.

The longer he stays with them the harder its going to be for him to get out.

[cassidy]

ITA, I posted last night that after the finger-flipping incident by Cindy in the courtroom, Brad should take that as his chance to run! It sure makes him look bad.

Lots of things they have done make him look bad. Can't imagine why he is staying with them?

JMO

[jakee]

ITA, I posted last night that after the finger-flipping incident by Cindy in the courtroom, Brad should take that as his chance to run! It sure makes him look bad.

Did Cindy really do that? :ohmy: Why?

[cassidy]

GM msgator, IMO Haleigh's mom is not going to stay away from the Anthony's. According to the D&A site she has (or maybe her mother) the detective agency looking for Haleigh.

http://dgator.com/HaleighAnnMarieCummings.aspx

I wish that this wasn't so but I think that the Anthony's are going to use this poor missing child to start their appearances more now. jmo :crying:

I think you're right on that. :(

[Explorer]

Not if Ron has anything to say about it.

[IM4Truth]

GM msgator, IMO Haleigh's mom is not going to stay away from the Anthony's. According to the D&A site she has (or maybe her mother) the detective agency looking for Haleigh.

http://dgator.com/HaleighAnnMarieCummings.aspx

I wish that this wasn't so but I think that the Anthony's are going to use this poor missing child to start their appearances more now. jmo :crying:

Isn't D&A investigations the company Dominic Casey works for? Or is it his company? Not good for Crystal to have done this. She will only gain more negative publicity garnered by Cindy Anthony! Anyone with a missing child needs to stay as far away from the A's as possible. They are in support of the person who murdered their grandchild!

[spiritwolf46]

Exactly. It's out there officially the A's must stay away. Their presence is upsetting the Cummings Family. If they continue to show up, that is harassment as far as I'm concerned

Good morning all!

I am complete agreement with you, ellegna. This IS, in fact, harassment on the part of the A's. BUT, these horrible people really don't give a chit about that, for it is all about THEM and THEIR photo ops!

They make me literally ill!

[cassidy]

Not if Ron has anything to say about it.

Ron can't keep them from appearing with Crystal.

[IM4Truth]

Did Cindy really do that? :ohmy: Why?

Yes she did, it is in one of the links from the videos on the hearing yesterday. As she was leaving the courtroom she flipped the bird (or more commonly known now as "flipping the Lee") at the camera. (or someone in that corner and the camera caught it)

[Explorer]

I can see where the Haleigh case is going to become a complete mess.

[Pam1569]

Isn't D&A investigations the company Dominic Casey works for? Or is it his company? Not good for Crystal to have done this. She will only gain more negative publicity garnered by Cindy Anthony! Anyone with a missing child needs to stay as far away from the A's as possible. They are in support of the person who murdered their grandchild!

GM IM, Yes this is DC's company. Unfortunately he must have a contract to search for Haleigh just like he did for Caylee. (shaking head profusely) It all comes down to $$$$ for the Anthony's and their means of living. imo

[spiritwolf46]

Yes she did, it is in one of the links from the videos on the hearing yesterday. As she was leaving the courtroom she flipped the bird (or more commonly known now as "flipping the Lee") at the camera. (or someone in that corner and the camera caught it)

Are you kidding me with that?????????????????????? OMG! That woman needs to be barred from the court room for that! What an EVIL BI##H! WOW! Just when you think that she cannot get any more vile.

ETA: I really do have a very SMALL piece of sympathy for Casey. That is ONLY because she was raised by these whackos and SHE never had a chance! Let the pie slinging begin! Just keep in mind that I do not, nor would I EVER condone what she did! I just think that if she had been raised properly, this may not have happened!

[cassidy]

I can see where the Haleigh case is going to become a complete mess.

It's been a mess for quite awhile. Cindy and George will make it worse.

JMO

[IM4Truth]

Good morning all!

I am complete agreement with you, ellegna. This IS, in fact, harassment on the part of the A's. BUT, these horrible people really don't give a chit about that, for it is all about THEM and THEIR photo ops!

They make me literally ill!

I agree with other posters, if the A's are only supporting Crystal and she wants it, then it's not harassment, however, if they get in Ron's face........look out!

[Daffodil]

Yes she did, it is in one of the links from the videos on the hearing yesterday. As she was leaving the courtroom she flipped the bird (or more commonly known now as "flipping the Lee") at the camera. (or someone in that corner and the camera caught it)

I thought that she did when I first looked at it. I was flabbergasted. But then I looked and looked again, blowing up the image to look more closely. I cannot say for sure that she did. It is too hard to tell. So I have decided to believe that she didn't do it. One reason is because I don't want to get dirty and accuse them of something I am not sure of. Second, they would be hgh-fiving each other if everyone accused her of it and it wasn't so. I think it would bug her more if she did do it and no one continued to make a big deal of it.

JMO

[IM4Truth]

GM IM, Yes this is DC's company. Unfortunately he must have a contract to search for Haleigh just like he did for Caylee. (shaking head profusely) It all comes down to $$$$ for the Anthony's and their means of living. imo

The A's have no money to pay him, I don't think the Cummings family have money to pay him and didn't I read where his home is in foreclosure? How smart is that to take on clients who can't pay when you can't even pay your mortgage? I'd think twice about hiring him to find a missing child for me!

[msgatorslayer]

GM msgator, IMO Haleigh's mom is not going to stay away from the Anthony's. According to the D&A site she has (or maybe her mother) the detective agency looking for Haleigh.

http://dgator.com/HaleighAnnMarieCummings.aspx

I wish that this wasn't so but I think that the Anthony's are going to use this poor missing child to start their appearances more now. jmo :crying:

:sad: No idea what she's thinking.

[cassidy]

I agree with other posters, if the A's are only supporting Crystal and she wants it, then it's not harassment, however, if they get in Ron's face........look out!

Appearing with Crystal IS being in Ron's face, as I see it. HE is the parent of the missing child, the Anthony's should bow out of the public appearances. They can support from behind the scenes...oh wait...no one would SEE them then.

JMO

[jakee]

Yes she did, it is in one of the links from the videos on the hearing yesterday. As she was leaving the courtroom she flipped the bird (or more commonly known now as "flipping the Lee") at the camera. (or someone in that corner and the camera caught it)

I just don't understand her thought process. Does she think that is funny and clever? I really have tried to understand where she is coming from, I gave up a while ago.....but holy moly, that is so juvenile. She boggles my mind. :confused: IMO

[GIGI4256]

Perhaps Crystal only invited the A's knowing the media would surely follow, or maybe they WEREN'T invited, but just showed up to turn the vigil into another Anthony 'all about me' side show.

I heard in one of the media videos that Josh Duckett was holding his own vigil that same day for Trenton. Guess the A's figured TD wouldn't draw as much media attention as Haleigh.

Although, the As have much more in common with the Ducketts, having a murder committed by the mother of the child.

[msgatorslayer]

It's been a mess for quite awhile. Cindy and George will make it worse.

JMO

Took the words outta my mouth. ITA

[GIGI4256]

I just don't understand her thought process. Does she think that is funny and clever? I really have tried to understand where she is coming from, I gave up a while ago.....but holy moly, that is so juvenile. She boggles my mind. :confused: IMO

Total lack of class is the only way to describe Cindy.

[IM4Truth]

I thought that she did when I first looked at it. I was flabbergasted. But then I looked and looked again, blowing up the image to look more closely. I cannot say for sure that she did. It is too hard to tell. So I have decided to believe that she didn't do it. One reason is because I don't want to get dirty and accuse them of something I am not sure of. Second, they would be hgh-fiving each other if everyone accused her of it and it wasn't so. I think it would bug her more if she did do it and no one continued to make a big deal of it.

JMO

I'll see if I can find the link that I watched that showed it clearly. I didn't even know about it at the time, I just went to the links first and saw it and posted on the board. Later I saw that everyone was talking about it previously. BRB

[debkay]

ITA, I posted last night that after the finger-flipping incident by Cindy in the courtroom, Brad should take that as his chance to run! It sure makes him look bad.

Who did she flip off, and is there a pic of it?? I had not seen or heard that before.

[Daffodil]

I'll see if I can find the link that I watched that showed it clearly. I didn't even know about it at the time, I just went to the links first and saw it and posted on the board. Later I saw that everyone was talking about it previously. BRB

Thanks IM4truth. I am running out in a minute, could you send it in a pm? I did look at several images and the video. It was just too hard to tell. I certainly don't want to send any energy to her madness and negativity.

[Explorer]

Appearing with Crystal IS being in Ron's face, as I see it. HE is the parent of the missing child, the Anthony's should bow out of the public appearances. They can support from behind the scenes...oh wait...no one would SEE them then.

JMO

oh dear this is not good.

[msgatorslayer]

Although, the As have much more in common with the Ducketts, having a murder committed by the mother of the child.

For that reason, Josh may not want to have anything to do with them. He still says that he thinks Trenton is alive. That Melinda would never have harmed Trenton. The Anthony case may be something that he doesn't want to think about. IMO

[cassidy]

Who did she flip off, and is there a pic of it?? I had not seen or heard that before.


If you watch her face as she does the hand gesture, she is also saying something. Any lip readers out there?

[IM4Truth]

Here is the link, it's at the very end, the last few seconds, just as George is walking out the door and she is following:

http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html

[djmsmom]

I'll see if I can find the link that I watched that showed it clearly. I didn't even know about it at the time, I just went to the links first and saw it and posted on the board. Later I saw that everyone was talking about it previously. BRB

http://www.picupine.com/ef7e0cdx

[Pam1569]

The A's have no money to pay him, I don't think the Cummings family have money to pay him and didn't I read where his home is in foreclosure? How smart is that to take on clients who can't pay when you can't even pay your mortgage? I'd think twice about hiring him to find a missing child for me!

IM, ITA with you. I would be in shock if he actually did.

[spiritwolf46]

With respect to the Lee gesture, I'm guessing the judge didn't see it. If he sees the reports, could there be a contempt of court charge here?

Spirit, this has nothing to do with your post, you just got to be the one I landed on!

Good morning, Lizzie! No problem at all.

Do you, or does anyone have the link to the "finger in the camera"? I would like to see it, too. Went back to the first page here and was not able to find it.

TIA!

Ooooop! Forgot to look on the links page. Will do that now. :blushing:

[Neffy]

Perhaps Crystal only invited the A's knowing the media would surely follow, or maybe they WEREN'T invited, but just showed up to turn the vigil into another Anthony 'all about me' side show.

I heard in one of the media videos that Josh Duckett was holding his own vigil that same day for Trenton. Guess the A's figured TD wouldn't draw as much media attention as Haleigh.

The Anthony's were not invited via Crystal. According the Lavinia's email from Cindy, Cindy said in advance that she would be speaking there or something to that effect. According to Crystal's mother, they didnt know who was going to show but it sounded like they'd made their own plans to show. As I said earlier. This turned into one fiasco and certainly not what the true meaning of the vigil was supposed to be.

[IM4Truth]

Good morning, Lizzie! No problem at all.

Do you, or does anyone have the link to the "finger in the camera"? I would like to see it, too. Went back to the first page here and was not able to find it.

TIA!

Ooooop! Forgot to look on the links page. Will do that now. :blushing:

This one is clear: http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html
at the very end, last few seconds

[spiritwolf46]

http://www.picupine.com/ef7e0cdx

WOW! I am thinking that she did, in fact, flip the bird but tried to be :sneaky: about it! Look at her face!

What can we say?

[spiritwolf46]

This one is clear: http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html
at the very end, last few seconds

Thanks much, IM. Will look again! :)

[djmsmom]

Good morning, Lizzie! No problem at all.

Do you, or does anyone have the link to the "finger in the camera"? I would like to see it, too. Went back to the first page here and was not able to find it.

TIA!

Ooooop! Forgot to look on the links page. Will do that now. :blushing:

I just posted it

[101Spots]

Isn't D&A investigations the company Dominic Casey works for? Or is it his company? Not good for Crystal to have done this. She will only gain more negative publicity garnered by Cindy Anthony! Anyone with a missing child needs to stay as far away from the A's as possible. They are in support of the person who murdered their grandchild!

Just as the Milsteads preyed on the Anthonys in their time of need, so the Anthonys will prey on Crystal. A play it forward/take advantage kinda thing for con artists. The Anthonys learned their lesson well.

[*MoonRider*]

Good morning, Lizzie! No problem at all.

Do you, or does anyone have the link to the "finger in the camera"? I would like to see it, too. Went back to the first page here and was not able to find it.

TIA!

Ooooop! Forgot to look on the links page. Will do that now. :blushing:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/CAfinger3webcopy.jpg

[IM4Truth]

Thanks much, IM. Will look again! :)

You can slide the bar near the very end if you don't want to listen to all of the video but listening to it is very interesting, shows the lack of disrespect from the defense atty Kasen towards the judge too. In fact he is admonished for it.

[spiritwolf46]

I just posted it

Was writing my post when you did.

Thank you so very much! :seeya:

Sure looks to me like she flipped the Lee!

[cassidy]

Thanks much, IM. Will look again! :)


Watch closely, she is also saying something.

[spiritwolf46]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/CAfinger3webcopy.jpg

You guys are AWESOME! Thank you SO very much. All of you!

[Pam1569]

I wonder if on the contract they have to specify if they want KidFinders to do a "live child" only search.

Wait till they get the bill, plus expenses for George and Cindy. Gas, Mileage, hotel (5 star preferred) meals (crabpuffs please).
This missing children stuff is very lucrative.

GM ish, I guess it is since KFN have now the Anthony's and the Anthony's have now recruited the mother of Haleigh. :sneaky:

[Dells]

Thanks for the links. I so admire Ron for standing up for his daughter Haleigh and kicking the a's to the curb. Something tells me they are NOT going to go away from the Haleigh case. They are THAT DISRESPECTFUL!

Bolding mine....

Why would they when they can ride her train of publicity in addition to Caylee's? :sneaky:

Good morning, everyone! :seeya:

[djmsmom]

Was writing my post when you did.

Thank you so very much! :seeya:

Sure looks to me like she flipped the Lee!

Last night a poster said that she seemed to be giving the lee to the producer of the NG show.

[IM4Truth]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/CAfinger3webcopy.jpg

The stills are good, but I'm telling you, I just can't describe what I thought or felt as I was watching it and saw that happen! I was astonished!!! Here I was sitting here thinking how disrespectful Kasen had been in the courtroom, thinking how he fits so well into JB's firm and then BAM there is a middle finger in my face!!!!

[apothecary]

My bolding. I think that is the big argument that night. I think they either found Caylee or witnessed her death. I think that Casey and Cindy were so into the heat of an argument that they either forgot Caylee in the pool or didn't see her go in. That is just one of my theories.
Would they not have reported it as an accident?

[spiritwolf46]

Off to watch the whole thing! See ya'll in a bit and thank you all again, so very much!
:wub:

[IM4Truth]

Thanks much, IM. Will look again! :)

When they enter the courtroom why do George and Cindy look all around for a place to sit when there is an empty bench right next to their own attorney! And watch for the look Cindy gives to Brad as she passes him! But look at her smile for the camera before she sits down!!!!

[camracrazy]

If you watch her face as she does the hand gesture, she is also saying something. Any lip readers out there?

I'm not an expert, but it looked to me like she mouthed "Up yours" :ohmy:

[Scampi]

http://www.picupine.com/ef7e0cdx

Oh yeah, this still photo shows it very clearly, imo. Man, look at that expression as she's doing it.

[desmom]

WOW! I am thinking that she did, in fact, flip the bird but tried to be :sneaky: about it! Look at her face!

What can we say?

I was kind of on the fence about it until I looked at the expression on her face. She is definitely not waving howdy to anyone in the crowd...imo.

[IM4Truth]

Watch closely, she is also saying something.

I'm not a lip reader but I just watched it a couple of times again and I believe she is saying just what her gesture means. We know it wasn't Kathi Belich she was gesturing because she left just in front of them. I never saw the other side of the courtroom but the NG producer would be a good bet.

[StickyBeak]

http://www.picupine.com/ef7e0cdx

Wow, I would say without a doubt, just the positioning of her other fingers suggest "the Lee". JMO Would like to know who was on the receiving end.

If Ron Cummings requests through his attorney no relationship with the A's, would they be held liable for using Haleighs name on the Caylee Foundation site? I believe they claim her as one of their projects so to speak, Unless Crystal gave permission I understand. Just wonderin

[Explorer]

I was kind of on the fence about it until I looked at the expression on her face. She is definitely not waving howdy to anyone in the crowd...imo.

I hope Chryslals atty. advises her not to get involved with the a's.

[Explorer]

Wow, I would say without a doubt, just the positioning of her other fingers suggest "the Lee". JMO Would like to know who was on the receiving end.

If Ron Cummings requests through his attorney no relationship with the A's, would they be held liable for using Haleighs name on the Caylee Foundation site? I believe they claim her as one of their projects so to speak, Unless Crystal gave permission I understand. Just wonderin

Im justa wonderin too.

[IM4Truth]

Wow, I would say without a doubt, just the positioning of her other fingers suggest "the Lee". JMO Would like to know who was on the receiving end.

If Ron Cummings requests through his attorney no relationship with the A's, would they be held liable for using Haleighs name on the Caylee Foundation site? I believe they claim her as one of their projects so to speak, Unless Crystal gave permission I understand. Just wonderin

But doesn't Ron have custody, not Crystal, wouldn't it be his call? I'm not trying to get o/t on the other case here because I don't follow that board very closely. This is in connection with the Anthonys.

[Dells]

He must be a blogger.:wink:

I'm estatic to see this in writing. Ron's blood probably boils when he sees the way the Anthony's act. He doesn't know the fate of his Daughter. He's hopeful that she's alive and will be found. Then, there are the Athony's. Nuff said.

Kinda O/T but there is an article in my paper this morning about a Mom who could have faced 30 in prison for the death of her child. Instead, she took a plea deal and will spend 2 years for child abuse.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1002407.ece

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya:

The biggest mistake that Casey and her defense team has made is to try to get Casey out of this mess scott-free w/out having to take any responsibility at all. If she would have cooperated in the beginning I am sure she could have gotten some sort of plea deal w/minimal jail time. Even if she had to serve more substantial prison time, it surely would have been much less than LWOP. Even if she had to serve 15-20 years, she would at least have the hope of getting out some day and trying to make some sort of life for herself. But no, they are all so stubborn. Her life is effectively over now and it is just a waiting game to see if she gets the DP or LWOP.

I personally feel that Casey deserves exactly what is coming to her, but in the off chance this was just a tragic accident due to neglect or something along those lines, then she has done herself no favors. Neither has her defense team. It is just plain stupid how they have approached this case. In some ways, I can see why the defense team is doing it this way. They are just concerned about their careers and how famous they will be after this case. But Casey I do not understand at all. Doesn't she see the ultimate consequences to the rest of her life w/what she is doing now and how she is letting her defense team run her case? I wonder if George and Cindy will ever see the light and see that this whole case has been handled terribly and the wrong way by them, Casey, and Casey's defense team. Maybe once she is found guilty and is led away to prison for the rest of her life, it will finally dawn on them. But then it will be too late. It is almost already too late now. They have all sealed Casey's fate, and she is never, ever going to get out of this. And I guess rightly so, because I would think if this really was an accident, that Casey would be talking and trying to iron out some type of deal by now.

[IM4Truth]

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya:

The biggest mistake that Casey and her defense team has made is to try to get Casey out of this mess scott-free w/out having to take any responsibility at all. If she would have cooperated in the beginning I am sure she could have gotten some sort of plea deal w/minimal jail time. Even if she had to serve more substantial prison time, it surely would have been much less than LWOP. Even if she had to serve 15-20 years, she would at least have the hope of getting out some day and trying to make some sort of life for herself. But no, they are all so stubborn. Her life is effectively over now and it is just a waiting game to see if she gets the DP or LWOP.

I personally feel that Casey deserves exactly what is coming to her, but in the off chance this was just a tragic accident due to neglect or something along those lines, then she has done herself no favors. Neither has her defense team. It is just plain stupid how they have approached this case. In some ways, I can see why the defense team is doing it this way. They are just concerned about their careers and how famous they will be after this case. But Casey I do not understand at all. Doesn't she see the ultimate consequences to the rest of her life w/what she is doing now and how she is letting her defense team run her case? I wonder if George and Cindy will ever see the light and see that this whole case has been handled terribly and the wrong way by them, Casey, and Casey's defense team. Maybe once she is found guilty and is led away to prison for the rest of her life, it will finally dawn on them. But then it will be too late. It is almost already too late now. They have all sealed Casey's fate, and she is never, ever going to get out of this. And I guess rightly so, because I would think if this really was an accident, that Casey would be talking and trying to iron out some type of deal by now.

On the other hand, I do worry about appeals or mis-trial due to ineffective counsel.

[StickyBeak]

But doesn't Ron have custody, not Crystal, wouldn't it be his call? I'm not trying to get o/t on the other case here because I don't follow that board very closely. This is in connection with the Anthonys.


ITA, just that no one could use Caylee's images or name without permission or $$$ since CA had them copyrighted, SO whats good for the goose etc. Basically using some missing childs or organizations name without approval or permission. Boy, it's like do as I say, not as I do with CA. JMO

[Dells]

I wonder if the a's know what a bad joke they have become.

Probably not.:sneaky: Remember, they have "thousands" of supporters that probably tell them how wonderful they are on a daily basis. George also thinks that he and Cindy and "role models", so I don't think they realize how ridiculous they appear to most people.

[Dells]

I think the community would 100% be behind the Anthony's if they were truthful and wanted to be the poster family for Grand Parent rights. It is something that is very much needed and I believe with their family being in the situation it is, they could push for those rights and stand a great chance of succeding.

I think you are so right! But sadly, their time and energy is misplaced in defending Casey and trying to get her off for the murder of Caylee. :sneaky:

[Neffy]

But doesn't Ron have custody, not Crystal, wouldn't it be his call? I'm not trying to get o/t on the other case here because I don't follow that board very closely. This is in connection with the Anthonys.

You or I am at liberty to hire a PI or any firm we want to look into this case. Crystal has a right IMO. This is her child The more looking the better. But someone of credbility that is reputable. The Anthonys and D Casey don't even make the list.

Ron's right. They are detracting from Haliegh and have their own agenda. Thats why he is speaking out. The A's want publicity for their Kidfinders "FRANCHISE"!

[djmsmom]

I think you are so right! But sadly, their time and energy is misplaced in defending Casey and trying to get her off for the murder of Caylee. :sneaky:

They only want Casey off for their own reasons, Boy wouldn't the foundation take off if they could say that Caylee was kidnapped and killed by someone else. How many tv shows would want their story then. The money would roll in. Really sick.

[Pam1569]

On the other hand, I do worry about appeals or mis-trial due to ineffective counsel.

IM, I really believe that the judge and the prosecutions has made every efforts so far to not allow for this. jmo

[3girls]

Will this be the OC's life from now on.
Jessica Gentry
http://www.wetv.com/women-behind-bars/blogs/jessica-gentry

My daily life within these razor wires is monotonous -- the same food, the same people, the same thing on TV. The same routine day in and day out. Nothing changes, ever.

For someone who’s never been here it would be hard to understand. Daily, we are degraded and dehumanized by everyone from the correctional officers, to the ranking officials, to the wardens. Even our peers around us abuse us because of their own non-existent self esteem. We have become nothing but a number to the state and job security to a society that is falling apart. There is nothing for us to do that will help us reform our ways of thinking positively. It becomes a safe haven to many because the only difference from this life and the one they led out on the streets is the lack of responsibility. They’re used to the abuse. Many, like myself, grew up never trusting and believing we’d never amount to anything. We were worthless and useless. That’s what our societies taught us and still teaches us. We made mistakes in life and we pay daily for those mistakes. Heaven forbid we’re only human. We’re not allowed the luxury of being human though. We’ve been tossed away; locked up and forgotten. I can’t attend GED classes because I graduated high school before I came to prison. I can’t attend college because I have no way of paying for it. The despair becomes great around this place and at times I wish that for my mistake, I would have received the death penalty. It would be better than this. Could the state of Texas really believe that they received justice?

There are positive moments though. Some of us are lucky enough to develop close friends who help us find our self worth, who help us learn what trust is all about. Mail call is the most anticipated time of the day. Sad to say, for some of us, it’s the loneliest time.

I miss a soft bed, working for money, going shopping, cooking real food and my family. Most of all because there’s no love here that’s unconditional. And I regret not sharing more of me with them when I was out there. My trust had been shattered from the beginning of my life.

If I could leave for one day I’d just sit in a quiet place and find my peace of mind. There is no solitude here. No peace, no quiet and no forgiveness. We have become decomposing trash in a vast wasteland and we’ll stay here 'til we rot.

[IM4Truth]

IM, I really believe that the judge and the prosecutions has made every efforts so far to not allow for this. jmo

I think you are right about that. I have a lot of respect for that prosecution team. They are true professionals.

[Dick Tracy]

Good Morning Kindred Spirits!!

o jp[ yjsy rbrtupmr jsf s hppf d;rr[ ;sd mmohj eeeeeee whoops... fingers on the home keys please.

I hope that everyone had a good sleep. I didn't. I woke up from a nightmare - George and Cindy are there, and we're at a Taco Bell, and they're eating tacos and laughing and goofing off just like Casey. I can see into their mouths. And if that's not enough, then they whip out a camera, and they start taking these crazy photos of each other, and then that gang/tribe hand things starts up, and the next thing I know I'm doing it too. Facebook. Myspace. Here I come.

I can hear it already. Isn't that Dick Tracy with the Anthony's at Taco Bell? That's just disgusting.

So a warning to all - do not eat pizza before bed time. It WILL give you nightmares.

KING: Weird.

[adair]

I think the community would 100% be behind the Anthony's if they were truthful and wanted to be the poster family for Grand Parent rights. It is something that is very much needed and I believe with their family being in the situation it is, they could push for those rights and stand a great chance of succeding.


Good Morning Everyone!!

MsGator.....great post.

[Barbara fl.]

I agree with you. Ron has enough problems trying to keep the focus on his own missing daughter. The drama the A's would bring into the mix would just be over the top. moo.
George and Cindy have no respect for LE or the public. They are not needed in Satsuma. They need to slink back to Orange County and take care of the problems they created and forget about the Cummings Family and their heartbreak.
George and Cindy could have done the right thing and could have been very helpful to families with missing children but I guess that did not pay as well. The drama they keep going makes the media hungry for more. The good guys like Klass and Lundford are really not in big demand for prime time. moo.


Good morning all,


I think the ONLY reason Cindy wanted to get involved with the Haleigh family was because they are also in the spotlight.....Maybe Cindy thinks she will become a movie star...The mere fact that she insulted Zenaida Gonzalez about her looks is because she thinks that she and Casey are 10's......Maybe she wants to play herself when the movie comes out....she probably thinks tha no one could come up to her looks......

[Dells]

Someone is writing a fairy tale: The Tale of King George and Queen Cindy

She has 4 parts so far. You have to scroll down to start with Part 1.

http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/


imo

Thank you so much for posting the link to this little gem for us!! :seeya: That was the most hilarious thing that I have read in a long time! Seriously, I have tears streaming down my face because I am laughing so hard!:laugh:

[Pam1569]

Probably not.:sneaky: Remember, they have "thousands" of supporters that probably tell them how wonderful they are on a daily basis. George also thinks that he and Cindy and "role models", so I don't think they realize how ridiculous they appear to most people.

GM Dells, Yeah supposedly Cindy is using the imaginary people in her head for all those letters of support. Can she actually do that? :biggrin:

[chrissy]

You guys are AWESOME! Thank you SO very much. All of you!

ITA!!!! great posts...great info...and such a relief to read articulate, truthful insight into the A's and this case; bottom line, JMO, they are so far past the ability to do any damage control of their previous behavior ( i still maintain that they are guilty of obstructing justice,at the very least)....yes, they lost their granddaughter, their sweet daughter is in prison for allegedly(had to throw that "allegedly" in:lol:) murdering her, and although very sad, and unimaginable pain, i find it incredulous how this family who has lost so much and yet, still have not gained the majority of the public's sympathy??? it is like nothing i have ever seen...

why don't they have a high profile attorney? because high profile attorneys got there by insisting their clients keep their mouth's shut! cindy is every lawyer's worst nightmare....JMO...any strong, capable, in control, knowledgeable attorney would never take the case and have to contend with her continuing to derail the defense case. Brad seems like a "nice" man...read that as not strong enough to control cindy anthony. cindy would never hire a lawyer who would try to control her, even if it was in her daughter's best interest.....after all, this is really all about cindy...jmo of course!

sorry for babbling...yes, they are living hell on earth...but as the old adage goes..."the hell we live is the hell we make"...jmo...but someone please shut cindy up...i would hate for this case to be overturned on appeal for a variety of reasons pertaining to their offensive, undignified, unsympathetic behaviour. Judgemental on my part? yep...but enough...i do pity them. But they have broken the law, numerous laws...Caylee is the victim here!

and finally (i promise....:w00t: LOL!)...what the heck do i know?...i am just an evil blogger; smart, cindy, really smart!!! :glare:

whewwwwwwwwww....the above was JMHO....thank you all again for honest posts!!!!

[Dells]

Morning, ms gator!

Even if the A's did a compelete turnaround, confessed all they knew, encouraged OC to do the same, and professed complete regret, I think it would be too late. I, for one, would question their motives.

Oh, I think it would definitely be too late too and I would question their motive as well. It would make it look like they realized that they weren't going to get Casey out of this scott-free so it was time to go to Plan B now. The problem is that w/all their lies they will never be believed or taken seriously by anybody ever again.

[Dells]

Thats what I think. The a's crossed the line and they are not credible. The fact that they would see an innocent person go to jail in place of their own guilty daughter says this goes beyond anything that can be repaired.

And to further that thought, they absolutely do not want Caylee's real murdered to be punished for her horrific crime. How sad and deplorable that they are disrespecting little Caylee's memory in such a way.:thumbdown:

[apothecary]

Good Morning Kindred Spirits!!

o jp[ yjsy rbrtupmr jsf s hppf d;rr[ ;sd mmohj eeeeeee whoops... fingers on the home keys please.

I hope that everyone had a good sleep. I didn't. I woke up from a nightmare - George and Cindy are there, and we're at a Taco Bell, and they're eating tacos and laughing and goofing off just like Casey. I can see into their mouths. And if that's not enough, then they whip out a camera, and they start taking these crazy photos of each other, and then that gang/tribe hand things starts up, and the next thing I know I'm doing it too. Facebook. Myspace. Here I come.

I can hear it already. Isn't that Dick Tracy with the Anthony's at Taco Bell? That's just disgusting.

So a warning to all - do not eat pizza before bed time. It WILL give you nightmares.

KING: Weird.
Dickie,Dickie..you are so funny.Just had to let you know before I sign off and go to work.

[IM4Truth]

And to further that thought, they absolutely do not want Caylee's real murdered to be punished for her horrific crime. How sad and deplorable that they are disrespecting little Caylee's memory in such a way.:thumbdown:

However, if someone else had murdered their baby, they would be right there ready to pull the switch!! Look how they pointed fingers! They were very harsh towards those people and had any one of them been the real killer, the Anthonys would have different opinion on the DP.

[desmom]

I am playing catch up on last night and this morning's news releases. I finally got around to NG and Padilla Says George Anthony's Story Is Untrue (http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html)

From the newslink: Leonard Padilla says Lee told him Cindy tried to choke Casey on Father's Day and that's when she took off with Caylee.

Many of us have speculated Casey left the evening of the 15th and not the afternoon of the 16th as George told Greta and LE. George recalled too many details about the girls for it to be just a normal day.

I also do not buy the family thought the last time they saw Caylee was June 8. Cindy and Caylee went to the nursing home with a Father's Day card for Dad/Great-Granddad! Taking an almost 3 year old to a nursing home would definitely stick out in my mind.

I have checked the calendars in my home and everyone identifies which day is Father's Day. If someone asked me about a particular event that happened last month, I would have to go to my calendar to refresh my memory by looking at the events around that time period. IMO, the words "Father's Day" on a calendar would definitely be a stand out day for me.

I believe the family purposefully steered LE away from June 15 because they did not want that argument we have heard so much about and Casey storming out of the house with Caylee in tow coming out to LE.

There are other red flags that happened that make me think Casey's bonding vacation was nothing more than an escape from home and I think Cindy knew it was not a vacation.

jmo

[Dells]

On the other hand, I do worry about appeals or mis-trial due to ineffective counsel.

But how could they claim that w/so many "high profile" attorneys on the "Dream Team". They will also have a DPQ attorney added to their team very shortly. I think in some ways, the ineffective counsel appeal has been taken away from Casey.

[desmom]

But how could they claim that w/so many "high profile" attorneys on the "Dream Team". They will also have a DPQ attorney added to their team very shortly. I think in some ways, the ineffective counsel appeal has been taken away from Casey.

I think the only way the "Dream Team" will get a commitment from a DP qualified attorney is if JB takes a backseat to how the defense will be handled. I do not see him giving this up without a fight. He has his girl convinced he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

About the time an attorney told me it was not necessary for me to attend all these little motion hearings, I would be wondering what the heck my attorney is trying to hide.

jmo

[Dells]

Will this be the OC's life from now on.
Jessica Gentry
http://www.wetv.com/women-behind-bars/blogs/jessica-gentry

My daily life within these razor wires is monotonous -- the same food, the same people, the same thing on TV. The same routine day in and day out. Nothing changes, ever.

For someone who’s never been here it would be hard to understand. Daily, we are degraded and dehumanized by everyone from the correctional officers, to the ranking officials, to the wardens. Even our peers around us abuse us because of their own non-existent self esteem. We have become nothing but a number to the state and job security to a society that is falling apart. There is nothing for us to do that will help us reform our ways of thinking positively. It becomes a safe haven to many because the only difference from this life and the one they led out on the streets is the lack of responsibility. They’re used to the abuse. Many, like myself, grew up never trusting and believing we’d never amount to anything. We were worthless and useless. That’s what our societies taught us and still teaches us. We made mistakes in life and we pay daily for those mistakes. Heaven forbid we’re only human. We’re not allowed the luxury of being human though. We’ve been tossed away; locked up and forgotten. I can’t attend GED classes because I graduated high school before I came to prison. I can’t attend college because I have no way of paying for it. The despair becomes great around this place and at times I wish that for my mistake, I would have received the death penalty. It would be better than this. Could the state of Texas really believe that they received justice?

There are positive moments though. Some of us are lucky enough to develop close friends who help us find our self worth, who help us learn what trust is all about. Mail call is the most anticipated time of the day. Sad to say, for some of us, it’s the loneliest time.

I miss a soft bed, working for money, going shopping, cooking real food and my family. Most of all because there’s no love here that’s unconditional. And I regret not sharing more of me with them when I was out there. My trust had been shattered from the beginning of my life.

If I could leave for one day I’d just sit in a quiet place and find my peace of mind. There is no solitude here. No peace, no quiet and no forgiveness. We have become decomposing trash in a vast wasteland and we’ll stay here 'til we rot.

Wow, someone should send this to Casey WITH HASTE so she can see what she has to look forward to when she gets to the big house!:thumbup:

[Neffy]

But how could they claim that w/so many "high profile" attorneys on the "Dream Team". They will also have a DPQ attorney added to their team very shortly. I think in some ways, the ineffective counsel appeal has been taken away from Casey.

Speaking of them they're awful quiet lately. However, I am expecting a statement from Mr. Conway. :sneaky: *cough* regarding current events.

[Explorer]

However, if someone else had murdered their baby, they would be right there ready to pull the switch!! Look how they pointed fingers! They were very harsh towards those people and had any one of them been the real killer, the Anthonys would have different opinion on the DP.

Cindy would want a photo shoot of herself giving the lethal injection. She is a nurse ya know.

[CeeKay]

I dont think the a's should mess with Ron:scared:

ITA...but...they (the A's) are cuddling up to Crystal and that is totally WRONG and insensitive at this time. Crystal needs someone to be with her and not someone with their own agenda hell-bent on using her. Where is Crystals "smart lawyer" at this time? This lawyer was gung-ho at trying to help Crystal in the beginning and she should be protecting her now from publicity seeking freaks. On the other hand, maybe this lawyer just wanted publicity for herself by knocking Ron every chance she got in the beginning.

MOO

[Dick Tracy]

I am playing catch up on last night and this morning's news releases. I finally got around to NG and Padilla Says George Anthony's Story Is Untrue (http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html)

From the newslink: Leonard Padilla says Lee told him Cindy tried to choke Casey on Father's Day and that's when she took off with Caylee.

Many of us have speculated Casey left the evening of the 15th and not the afternoon of the 16th as George told Greta and LE. George recalled too many details about the girls for it to be just a normal day.

I also do not buy the family thought the last time they saw Caylee was June 8. Cindy and Caylee went to the nursing home with a Father's Day card for Dad/Great-Granddad! Taking an almost 3 year old to a nursing home would definitely stick out in my mind.

I have checked the calendars in my home and everyone identifies which day is Father's Day. If someone asked me about a particular event that happened last month, I would have to go to my calendar to refresh my memory by looking at the events around that time period. IMO, the words "Father's Day" on a calendar would definitely be a stand out day for me.

I believe the family purposefully steered LE away from June 15 because they did not want that argument we have heard so much about and Casey storming out of the house with Caylee in tow coming out to LE.

There are other red flags that happened that make me think Casey's bonding vacation was nothing more than an escape from home and I think Cindy knew it was not a vacation.

jmo

Hi DesMom -

If Lennie said it, I believe it. I do believe that there was a major catfight on Sunday night between Queen Sinthia and Princess Casey, and that it got physical. And that she left in a huff, and she could have even said bitterly and with conviction "You will never see this child again" to her mother.

Meanwhile the Minion is haphazardly walking around the house, doesn't realize there's been a fight, and doesn't know if the Princess has left or not (yeah, right!). So the question of the day is - Where did Casey go?

Here's my thought: I think she drove around in her flashy bra equipped (to lift and separate the headlights you know) white Pontiac Sunbird, while Caylee slept in the backseat, or worse yet, the trunk.

I do think she returns home on the 16th, after the Queen left. And I do think that GA is straight on the last time he finally remembers seeing Caylee alive.

Sir Lee of Lackabrain told Lenny about the fight, and I'm a Lenny fan. He always seem to know something a little more than the average sleuth.

[ruth66]

From that same website....I've never heard this audio of arrest before:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040609_Casey_Anthony_arrest_audio

Casey's demeanor is so nonchalant. She has been well informed by her attorney not to answer any questions and she feels very impowered by Mr. Jose. I personally look forward to the day that a jury tells her what they think of her story(ies) and she spends the rest of her life behind bars replaying in her mind all the times she refused to tell the "honest" truth. Someday she will be humbled as will the rest of her family.

JMHO

[MiamiNice1]

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya:

The biggest mistake that Casey and her defense team has made is to try to get Casey out of this mess scott-free w/out having to take any responsibility at all. If she would have cooperated in the beginning I am sure she could have gotten some sort of plea deal w/minimal jail time. Even if she had to serve more substantial prison time, it surely would have been much less than LWOP. Even if she had to serve 15-20 years, she would at least have the hope of getting out some day and trying to make some sort of life for herself. But no, they are all so stubborn. Her life is effectively over now and it is just a waiting game to see if she gets the DP or LWOP.

I personally feel that Casey deserves exactly what is coming to her, but in the off chance this was just a tragic accident due to neglect or something along those lines, then she has done herself no favors. Neither has her defense team. It is just plain stupid how they have approached this case. In some ways, I can see why the defense team is doing it this way. They are just concerned about their careers and how famous they will be after this case. But Casey I do not understand at all. Doesn't she see the ultimate consequences to the rest of her life w/what she is doing now and how she is letting her defense team run her case? I wonder if George and Cindy will ever see the light and see that this whole case has been handled terribly and the wrong way by them, Casey, and Casey's defense team. Maybe once she is found guilty and is led away to prison for the rest of her life, it will finally dawn on them. But then it will be too late. It is almost already too late now. They have all sealed Casey's fate, and she is never, ever going to get out of this. And I guess rightly so, because I would think if this really was an accident, that Casey would be talking and trying to iron out some type of deal by now.

What an EXCELLENT post, Dells! The bolded above by me is the absolute bottom line in this whole mess!

The Anthonys feel ENTITLED to having it ALL - having their cake and eating it, too!

- Casey getting off scott-free

- The whole family using the services of other for FREE

- George and Cindy being the victims

- George and Cindy new careers, being the savior-crusaders for missing children


I think they will finally be hitting the proverbial brick wall!

[GIGI4256]

Good morning all,


I think the ONLY reason Cindy wanted to get involved with the Haleigh family was because they are also in the spotlight.....Maybe Cindy thinks she will become a movie star...The mere fact that she insulted Zenaida Gonzalez about her looks is because she thinks that she and Casey are 10's......Maybe she wants to play herself when the movie comes out....she probably thinks tha no one could come up to her looks......

Hate to tell her................

[Pam1569]

I don't see why not, Pam. It's not like there's anything else in there taking up space!:blink:

:lol: lizzie I forgot that nothing was there! :biggrin:

[MrsHudson]

I'm sure they do. Queen Cindy, who likes bashing the bloggers, is on the net all the time reading up, IMO. She just doesn't care what others think of her. It's her universe, you're in it, or you're not. Doesn't matter to her. IMO

Pretty much makes her a person with a criminal mind though. Never admits anything, never takes responsibility, does not have a capacity for self-reflection and humility, blames everyone but herself for her problems, acts as if everything is fine even though her life is a total and complete failure.

She wants us to believe that it does not suck to be her but who on this planet would want the life she has?

[MiamiNice1]

ITA, just that no one could use Caylee's images or name without permission or $$$ since CA had them copyrighted, SO whats good for the goose etc. Basically using some missing childs or organizations name without approval or permission. Boy, it's like do as I say, not as I do with CA. JMO
You are so right! This steams me beyond all reason - the Anthonys, who refuse advice or help or anyone interfering - are systematically undermining and disrespecting Ronald Cummings' authority as Haleigh's parent.

I am FAR from a Ron Fan......but the Anthony's hypocrisy has me spitting nails! IM4TRUTH was exactly right observing that Ron is the legal, CUSTODIAL parent. HE is the one (fortunately or unfortunately) making the decisions for Haleigh.

The Anthonys have chosen to disregard/disrespect Ronald's wishes/authority in this most brazen way!! How dare they! :cursing:

[ruth66]

The a's are very destructive with their negativity. Ron and Chrystal are at odds with one another along with the stress of missing Haleigh and the Cummings really dont need the a's to make matters worse.


That is why the A's chose Crystal. In their eyes she is vulnarable, easily swayed. She is their wounded bird simply because she has not yet questioned their integrity and motivations. These are the people the A's want to help. They see her as being sort of 'misunderstood' as they seem to think that they are misunderstood (although I have to say most people understand more than they would like). Vultures I tell you.

JMO

[Barbara fl.]

ITA...but...they (the A's) are cuddling up to Crystal and that is totally WRONG and insensitive at this time. Crystal needs someone to be with her and not someone with their own agenda hell-bent on using her. Where is Crystals "smart lawyer" at this time? This lawyer was gung-ho at trying to help Crystal in the beginning and she should be protecting her now from publicity seeking freaks. On the other hand, maybe this lawyer just wanted publicity for herself by knocking Ron every chance she got in the beginning.

MOO



I agree with you...what do these two have in common?....Crystal's daughter is missing, she is not responsible (so it appears)....Caylee was never missing, Caylee was murdered by Cindy's daughter.....This would b like Cindy trying to team up with Sharon Rocha.....Cindy would be more in place with teaming up with the Peterson's....

[ruth66]

I have my own thoughts on Haliegh's parents but in this instance Ron's doing it correctly. He had his atty. make a well worded staement for him. Ron didn't go one LKL, GMA, or any news show. He didn't screech from his front yard, he didn't show up and bully his way to our ears. HE allowed his atty. to speak for him and state his opinion clearly. Good for him. In one short moment he's out classed the Anthonys.

Bolding mine
AMEN to that Marshmallow!
:thumbsup:

[Explorer]

That is why the A's chose Crystal. In their eyes she is vulnarable, easily swayed. She is their wounded bird simply because she has not yet questioned their integrity and motivations. These are the people the A's want to help. They see her as being sort of 'misunderstood' as they seem to think that they are misunderstood (although I have to say most people understand more than they would like). Vultures I tell you.

JMO

I really hope Chrystals lawyer steps right up before its too late and the a's destroy Chrystal.

[MrsHudson]

Good morning AMS! :wub:

Yanno, if the A's really have Casey's interest in their heart, they may someday be glad that all this has happened. They apparently, just like their daughter, need to have external controls in place for their behavior since it seems they can't control it on their own. Just goes to show you, if you continue to show abhorrent, aberrant behaviors, society will seek measures to control it and society WILL win, Cindy's will be damned.

This is such a good point. And WE bloggers are "society in action seeking measures to control and condemn the abhorrent, aberrant behaviors" of Casey and her family. You nailed it. I would not ordinarily follow a criminal case but this one really captured me because I just cannot tolerate this situation it is so outrageous. I see my self as part of a pressure group doing what I can to see that the tactics of Casey and her parents are not tolerated or repeated.

[MiamiNice1]

Maybe we should "unleash our keyboards?" :sneaky:

[camracrazy]

Casey's demeanor is so nonchalant. She has been well informed by her attorney not to answer any questions and she feels very impowered by Mr. Jose. I personally look forward to the day that a jury tells her what they think of her story(ies) and she spends the rest of her life behind bars replaying in her mind all the times she refused to tell the "honest" truth. Someday she will be humbled as will the rest of her family.

JMHO

She is amazingly calm, isn't she? What stuck out at me was at about the 7:59 point she says, "IF I'm innocent, that's as far as that goes." Why would there even be an IF if she was innocent? I would be screaming for them to find my child, not playing cat and mouse and going over "IF" scenarios!

[KP1935]

I just had an AHA moment...I figured out why the OC picked JB she thinks she can control him and then I realized THIS is Jose, we just aren't looking at him close enough:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2008/10/01/josejalapeno_1.jpg

[Explorer]

Maybe we should "unleash our keyboards?" :sneaky:

Yes Yes thats a great idea!

[ruth66]

Remember when CA called Morgan an "ambulance chaser"? Is there a catch phrase for someone that chases around vulnerable parents of missing children in order to drum up donations for a fraudulent fundation? That's a phrase someone needs to coin.:laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

However, if someone else had murdered their baby, they would be right there ready to pull the switch!! Look how they pointed fingers! They were very harsh towards those people and had any one of them been the real killer, the Anthonys would have different opinion on the DP.

That is for sure....that's why we all know that Casey did it...this family thinks they are acting appropriately under the circumstances...they are soooooo wrong....

Even OJ kept talking about finding the real killers......Mark Geragos, kept talking about finding the real murderer.....This family think all it's going to take is to say "my daughter did not do this, she is a loving and caring mother"...Then why, Cindy, were to threatening to take custody of Caylee?

[Barbara fl.]

Remember when CA called Morgan an "ambulance chaser"? Is there a catch phrase for someone that chases around vulnerable parents of missing children in order to drum up donations for a fraudulent fundation? That's a phrase someone needs to coin.:laugh:

Well Morgan and Morgan are ambulance chasers, but that besides the point....the judge has ruled in their favor and they can go on with the law suit....which makes Cindy very angry (which I love).......

[Explorer]

Well Morgan and Morgan are ambulance chasers, but that besides the point....the judge has ruled in their favor and they can go on with the law suit....which makes Cindy very angry (which I love).......

You can tell shes angry thats why shes flippin the Lee all over the place. Could you imagine having to go home to her?barf

[MiamiNice1]

Well Morgan and Morgan are ambulance chasers, but that besides the point....the judge has ruled in their favor and they can go on with the law suit....which makes Cindy very angry (which I love).......
Isn't it just amazing irony that M&M are the only people in this entire story who are giving the Anthonys exactly what they deserve?! :wub:

[Dick Tracy]

That is why the A's chose Crystal. In their eyes she is vulnarable, easily swayed. She is their wounded bird simply because she has not yet questioned their integrity and motivations. These are the people the A's want to help. They see her as being sort of 'misunderstood' as they seem to think that they are misunderstood (although I have to say most people understand more than they would like). Vultures I tell you.

JMO

Vunerable - exactly. And not well educated, and poor. From the area she hails from - why, that's just their way. Teen-age brides, 16 and 17 years old.

I don't think that Crystal knows how to question their integrity and motivations. Where's Kim Picazio? Or maybe she's the wild card here.

[MrsHudson]

Brad is part of the problem and is in this helping perpetuate this ridiculous nonsense. He's the one that encouraged them on this "journey" to keep going. I'm sure he's the legal entity for the "foundation".

Cindy is determined the the Haliegh abduction is going to be her same situation. She will surround herself and intermingle with persons whose tragedy she wants to perpetuate as her own. She can relate. "HER TOO".

Cindy is in charge and like Casey, will not back down and keep up the lies to the bitter end. When confronted and faced with a fact only then will she change it to another lie which makes no sense such as that nonsense that Casey didn't work to "maybe" spend more time with Caylee. What the heck?

Brad looks like crap, so does George. Cindy's feels she's never looked or felt better. This is one scary person.

The are all one in the same.

You are so right. Everyone looks like hell but Cindy. She is thriving. The woman is like a black hole, sucking in and destroying everyone that approaches her event horizon. In my opinion she is a malignant narcissist.

[Barbara fl.]

Pretty much makes her a person with a criminal mind though. Never admits anything, never takes responsibility, does not have a capacity for self-reflection and humility, blames everyone but herself for her problems, acts as if everything is fine even though her life is a total and complete failure.

She wants us to believe that it does not suck to be her but who on this planet would want the life she has?


Or had.....Casey is where she will be for the rest of her life (DP or not)......I wonder if Crystal knows or understands that the Anthony's refused polygraphs......She should ask them why, before she starts to trust these people.....

[MiamiNice1]

Vunerable - exactly. And not well educated, and poor. From the area she hails from - why, that's just their way. Teen-age brides, 16 and 17 years old.

I don't think that Crystal knows how to question their integrity and motivations. Where's Kim Picazio? Or maybe she's the wild card here.
Remember that Kim Picazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:

[ruth66]

Well Morgan and Morgan are ambulance chasers, but that besides the point....the judge has ruled in their favor and they can go on with the law suit....which makes Cindy very angry (which I love).......


Well there are probably more "ambulance chasers" out there than just Morgan and Morgan. I see commercials for them all the time. The only reason Baez isn't an "ambulance chaser" is because he seems to keep someone on the inside of the jail handing out his cards. I am just glad to see someone standing up to the Anthony's and giving them the old 'one two' for all they have done. Someone needs to teach them what consequences are since they don't seem to know what that means.:smile:

[Barbara fl.]

Isn't it just amazing irony that M&M are the only people in this entire story who are giving the Anthonys exactly what they deserve?! :wub:

For that I love them....but under different circumstances, they are what they are....

This case has brought every vulture out of the woodwork....But if Morgan and Morgan can succeed in getting every dime from this family, I'll cheer them....because they are making money on their dead grandchild....."repulsive to say the least"....

[Lavinia]

Remember when CA called Morgan an "ambulance chaser"? Is there a catch phrase for someone that chases around vulnerable parents of missing children in order to drum up donations for a fraudulent fundation? That's a phrase someone needs to coin.:laugh:

"Anthony" as in : the Haleigh case just got "Anthonied". "Send a grifter over to the Shuffield's and Anthony them out of their money."

[ruth66]

"Anthony" as in : the Haleigh case just got "Anthonied". "Send a grifter over to the Shuffield's and Anthony them out of their money."

You are a quick witted one aren't you? I love it. :laugh:

[Dells]

You are so right! This steams me beyond all reason - the Anthonys, who refuse advice or help or anyone interfering - are systematically undermining and disrespecting Ronald Cummings' authority as Haleigh's parent.

I am FAR from a Ron Fan......but the Anthony's hypocrisy has me spitting nails! IM4TRUTH was exactly right observing that Ron is the legal, CUSTODIAL parent. HE is the one (fortunately or unfortunately) making the decisions for Haleigh.

The Anthonys have chosen to disregard/disrespect Ronald's wishes/authority in this most brazen way!! How dare they! :cursing:

Excellent post!

Bolding mine....

Exactly! That statement could be used for just about everything that The Anthony's do lately.:sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

Well there are probably more "ambulance chasers" out there than just Morgan and Morgan. I see commercials for them all the time. The only reason Baez isn't an "ambulance chaser" is because he seems to keep someone on the inside of the jail handing out his cards. I am just glad to see someone standing up to the Anthony's and giving them the old 'one two' for all they have done. Someone needs to teach them what consequences are since they don't seem to know what that means.:smile:


But that is what ambulance chasers do...they go to jails and solicit....so I guess Baez can also be classified in the same catagory....

:laugh:

[MrsHudson]

What I find so noticeable about Ron not wanting any involvement from the Anthonys is that a law firm issued the statement.
I think that should be a warning, sort of speak,to Cindy and George
that they had better butt out.
If they have any sense they had better keep their mouths shut about Haleigh or they might find themselves being sued too.
Certainly they had better not try to be solliciting any donations with her name attached.:mad:

That's a good point! Now that I think of it no one should ever establish a foundation and use, without permission, anyone's name or likeness to solicit donations.

Actually maybe the A's should not imply a connection to their foundation, even in passing, the name of any other victim but Caylee unless they get permission from the victim's family.

[desmom]

Hi DesMom -

If Lennie said it, I believe it. I do believe that there was a major catfight on Sunday night between Queen Sinthia and Princess Casey, and that it got physical. And that she left in a huff, and she could have even said bitterly and with conviction "You will never see this child again" to her mother.

Meanwhile the Minion is haphazardly walking around the house, doesn't realize there's been a fight, and doesn't know if the Princess has left or not (yeah, right!). So the question of the day is - Where did Casey go?

Here's my thought: I think she drove around in her flashy bra equipped (to lift and separate the headlights you know) white Pontiac Sunbird, while Caylee slept in the backseat, or worse yet, the trunk.

I do think she returns home on the 16th, after the Queen left. And I do think that GA is straight on the last time he finally remembers seeing Caylee alive.

Sir Lee of Lackabrain told Lenny about the fight, and I'm a Lenny fan. He always seem to know something a little more than the average sleuth.


Hmm, her returning home after Cindy left for work makes sense. IIRC, Cindy said she usually left for work between 7:15 - 7:30.

Someone from the A's called Casey at 7:45 a.m. Casey and then Casey called her Voice Mail. The Caller ID would reveal it was the A's home number, so Casey let it go to the voice mail. I think it was George giving Casey a head's up Cindy was gone to work.

I would think there would be a Daddy/Daughter heart-to-heart when she came home. It probably was not a pleasant conversation and Casey again left in a huff. It would also explain why George had such fantastic recall of what they were wearing when the left because it was anything BUT a normal day.

jmo

ETA ~ As to where did Casey go Sunday night when she stormed out? Somewhere I read Lee lived a block away from the A's. I think she went to Lee's and I bet Lee knows the entire story. jmo

[ish]

Hi DesMom -

If Lennie said it, I believe it. I do believe that there was a major catfight on Sunday night between Queen Sinthia and Princess Casey, and that it got physical. And that she left in a huff, and she could have even said bitterly and with conviction "You will never see this child again" to her mother.

Meanwhile the Minion is haphazardly walking around the house, doesn't realize there's been a fight, and doesn't know if the Princess has left or not (yeah, right!). So the question of the day is - Where did Casey go?

Here's my thought: I think she drove around in her flashy bra equipped (to lift and separate the headlights you know) white Pontiac Sunbird, while Caylee slept in the backseat, or worse yet, the trunk.

I do think she returns home on the 16th, after the Queen left. And I do think that GA is straight on the last time he finally remembers seeing Caylee alive.

Sir Lee of Lackabrain told Lenny about the fight, and I'm a Lenny fan. He always seem to know something a little more than the average sleuth.

I think Lennie got a lot of info from Lee while he and Rob DIck were in town PRIOR to bailing Casey out. Once she got out, I think the relationship went downhill, but I do think Lee had loose lips in those early days. Lee actually seemed in his early visits with Casey to be actively trying to find Caylee. Poor guy he may have been deluded into thinking she was still alive.

[adair]

http://www.picupine.com/ef7e0cdx


Watching the video i had no doubt.... it appeared to me she was purposely doing...the way hand comes up fast, the dirty look. etc

jmo

[Barbara fl.]

You can tell shes angry thats why shes flippin the Lee all over the place. Could you imagine having to go home to her?barf

No I couldn't imagine that...I wonder if they ever watch themselves on the media when they go home......Cindy probably notices how her hair should have been and how she'll wear it the next time...

[desmom]

Remember that Kim Picazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:

Is that The Daisy Chain? :tongue:

[Dells]

Remember that Kim Picazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:

So it appears that there is a "daisy chain" involved here. :sneaky:

[ruth66]

But that is what ambulance chasers do...they go to jails and solicit....so I guess Baez can also be classified in the same catagory....

:laugh:

True, true. But Baez might just classify himself as the first sucessful hispanic ambulance chaser. Wouldn't that put him in a class by himself?

Gotta go to a dr. appt. BBL

[Explorer]

True, true. But Baez might just classify himself as the first sucessful hispanic ambulance chaser. Wouldn't that put him in a class by himself?

Gotta go to a dr. appt. BBL

a real trailblazer

[MiamiNice1]

Is that The Daisy Chain? :tongue:
Absolutely! :tongueside:

(great minds, Dells!)

[Dells]

"Anthony" as in : the Haleigh case just got "Anthonied". "Send a grifter over to the Shuffield's and Anthony them out of their money."

Love it, Lavinia! You are so clever.:thumbup: Yes, it appears that Crystal has been "Anthonied". :sneaky:

[Lavinia]

You are a quick witted one aren't you? I love it. :laugh:

:wub: Ruth.

[Lavinia]

Love it, Lavinia! You are so clever.:thumbup: Yes, it appears that Crystal has been "Anthonied". :sneaky:

And I don't think it washes off. :laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

ITA, just that no one could use Caylee's images or name without permission or $$$ since CA had them copyrighted, SO whats good for the goose etc. Basically using some missing childs or organizations name without approval or permission. Boy, it's like do as I say, not as I do with CA. JMO

Zenaida Gonzalez should copyright her name.....then sue the Anthony's every time the name comes out of their mouth......I wonder if there are other Caylee Anthony's out there....I'm going to check into it.....

[Dick Tracy]

Remember that Kim Pacazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:

Wow. This is like watching a rerun of that Disney Mousetrap movie over and over again. Maybe that's why all this information is slowly driving me crazy.. It's one vicious circle.

[texski]

Well Morgan and Morgan are ambulance chasers, but that besides the point....the judge has ruled in their favor and they can go on with the law suit....which makes Cindy very angry (which I love).......

if i were in an accident in florida and injured i would be very very happy to get the firm morgan and morgan as my attorneys. they have done a great job so far on the anthonys.
we entered a new era when attorneys started to advertise, now doctors do it as well. you look at the record and chose and i would chose morgan and morgan.

[Tia]

They latched their blood sucking fangs into the Haleigh case.


They are disgusting IMO. Are they looking to cash-in on Haleigh now too?

[desmom]

So it appears that there is a "daisy chain" involved here. :sneaky:

Great Minds. :beer:

[MiamiNice1]

Hmm, her returning home after Cindy left for work makes sense. IIRC, Cindy said she usually left for work between 7:15 - 7:30.

Someone from the A's called Casey at 7:45 a.m. Casey and then Casey called her Voice Mail. The Caller ID would reveal it was the A's home number, so Casey let it go to the voice mail. I think it was George giving Casey a head's up Cindy was gone to work.

I would think there would be a Daddy/Daughter heart-to-heart when she came home. It probably was not a pleasant conversation and Casey again left in a huff. It would also explain why George had such fantastic recall of what they were wearing when the left because it was anything BUT a normal day.

jmo

Each day, the opinion you formulate about this seems to become closer and closer to the actual TRUTH of what happened in that house, des!

The only part I have my doubts about is where Casey and George have a conversation. I think Casey probably just stormed into the house, PO'd, with Caylee and said she was exhausted and needed to sleep and then slammed the door to her room shut.

Afterwards, Casey and Caylee came out (as George contends) and left.

[MrsHudson]

The A's have no money to pay him, I don't think the Cummings family have money to pay him and didn't I read where his home is in foreclosure? How smart is that to take on clients who can't pay when you can't even pay your mortgage? I'd think twice about hiring him to find a missing child for me!

Why would anyone hire DC? He was telling G&C he was hot on Zanny's heels and that Caylee was going to be found alive when Caylee was decomposing in a field!! Crystal's mother is an idiot.

[ish]

So it appears that there is a "daisy chain" involved here. :sneaky:

I won't be surprised to hear from Cindy soon that Haleigh may have been taken by "someone" that LE think didn't think existed but is now a serial child snatcher. She won't mention any names cause she doesn't want to be sued but the description contains the words "cute, but not a 10"

[spiritwolf46]

And I don't think it washes off. :laugh:

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Barbara fl.]

if i were in an accident in florida and injured i would be very very happy to get the firm morgan and morgan as my attorneys. they have done a great job so far on the anthonys.
we entered a new era when attorneys started to advertise, now doctors do it as well. you look at the record and chose and i would chose morgan and morgan.

Even undertakers advertise....And I too would hire Morgan and Morgan....which goes to show that their stradegy worked.....They gave the public a chance to see them in action.....They certainly advertise enough out here.....Which is also what Baez is hoping for.....but I doubt that it will work in his favor, he's defending the lowest of low.....

[ish]

Why would anyone hire DC? He was telling G&C he was hot on Zanny's heels and that Caylee was going to be found alive when Caylee was decomposing in a field!! Crystal's mother is an idiot.

maybe Dominic will get a call from his Virginia psychic on this case too.

[eagleeer]

Remember that Kim Picazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:

Is that another Padilla daisy chain? :w00t:

[Barbara fl.]

True, true. But Baez might just classify himself as the first sucessful hispanic ambulance chaser. Wouldn't that put him in a class by himself?

Gotta go to a dr. appt. BBL


Great point.....:laugh:

[Dick Tracy]

Hmm, her returning home after Cindy left for work makes sense. IIRC, Cindy said she usually left for work between 7:15 - 7:30.

Someone from the A's called Casey at 7:45 a.m. Casey and then Casey called her Voice Mail. The Caller ID would reveal it was the A's home number, so Casey let it go to the voice mail. I think it was George giving Casey a head's up Cindy was gone to work.

I would think there would be a Daddy/Daughter heart-to-heart when she came home. It probably was not a pleasant conversation and Casey again left in a huff. It would also explain why George had such fantastic recall of what they were wearing when the left because it was anything BUT a normal day.

jmo

ETA ~ As to where did Casey go Sunday night when she stormed out? Somewhere I read Lee lived a block away from the A's. I think she went to Lee's and I bet Lee knows the entire story. jmo

Hmm... I have thought of Sir Lee of Lackabrain cottage.. but I would have thought that would have come out that she went there somehow by now. Gonna have to make a mental note to check that possibility out. But, based on Casey's ways, I sincerely don't think there was alot of daddy-daughter heart to heart talks in that family, no matter what the situation. George, as I have said before is a panty-waist, he avoids confrontation, especially when it involves the OC.

[Barbara fl.]

Remember that Kim Picazio is friends with Cobra......and in turn.....Cobra is friends with Dominic Casey.....who in turn is friends with the Anthonys.

:glare:


Yep...she'e the "wild card".....:sneaky:

[MiamiNice1]

Is that another Padilla daisy chain? :w00t:
Maybe Padilla is making more sense than we thought! :loveeyes:

[Barbara fl.]

Is that another Padilla daisy chain? :w00t:

Probably so...he is connected to all of them (from way back when, to him talk).....:biggrin:

[Dick Tracy]

Each day, the opinion you formulate about this seems to become closer and closer to the actual TRUTH of what happened in that house, des!

The only part I have my doubts about is where Casey and George have a conversation. I think Casey probably just stormed into the house, PO'd, with Caylee and said she was exhausted and needed to sleep and then slammed the door to her room shut.

Afterwards, Casey and Caylee came out (as George contends) and left.

O-66... BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree with this. Absolutely.

[penguinlady]

Isn't it just amazing irony that M&M are the only people in this entire story who are giving the Anthonys exactly what they deserve?! :wub:

I know! I used to roll my eyes at his commercials..Now I want to hug him. :loveeyes:

IMO!
K!

[Barbara fl.]

Maybe Padilla is making more sense than we thought! :loveeyes:


Or even he thinks.....:lol:

[ish]

Even undertakers advertise....And I too would hire Morgan and Morgan....which goes to show that their stradegy worked.....They gave the public a chance to see them in action.....They certainly advertise enough out here.....Which is also what Baez is hoping for.....but I doubt that it will work in his favor, he's defending the lowest of low.....

What annoyed me yesterday is the Defense attorney on JVM, Drew something kept putting down Mitnik/Morgan as wasting the courts time and hurting Casey's case. He even mentioned that the "some other dude did it" defense could be damaged with cases like this. GMAB, I'd like to see more people, who are thrown under a bus by a defense attorney who is trying to get his guilty client off, sue. Why should their reputation be damaged, I have no problem with an attorney attacking the evidence but don't try to blame someone else. I always think of David Westerfields attorney attempting to do that to Westerfields son.
What a creep, and double on Westerfield for allowing it!!

[eagleeer]

Zenaida Gonzalez should copyright her name.....then sue the Anthony's every time the name comes out of their mouth......I wonder if there are other Caylee Anthony's out there....I'm going to check into it.....

Yes there are and that is why the name or any other persons name cannot be copyrighted or trademarked.

You can search here for copyrights and trademarks.

http://www.uspto.gov/

[MiamiNice1]

I'm in. Where do we start? Kid Finders???
I'm thinking Kim Picazio. :smile:

[MiamiNice1]

Or even he thinks.....:lol:

:lol:........:thumbsup:.....

[MiamiNice1]

O-66... BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree with this. Absolutely.

Your description of George was SO much more accurate! :tonguewag:

[Buttoneyes]

But that is what ambulance chasers do...they go to jails and solicit....so I guess Baez can also be classified in the same catagory....

:laugh:

That's the really strange part of the story (stories) about how Casey acquired Baez as her attorney. Ambulance chasers are known to solicit potential clients, and work on the "if-come"; Baez, practicing (or malpracticing) criminal law SHOULD want to secure payment up-front since that's the only way there is anything in it for him. His first instinct should have been - does this person have the ability to pay my fee? There is definitely something wrong with the story that another inmate told Casey she knew a good criminal lawyer and would have HIM contact HER. There was no way for Baez, or anyone, to know that this would become a case that would generate enough publicity to make a name for an unknown attorney when Casey was first arrested. Something is NOT right with the story on how Casey and Baez got hooked up IMO.

[ish]

You are so right. Everyone looks like hell but Cindy. She is thriving. The woman is like a black hole, sucking in and destroying everyone that approaches her event horizon. In my opinion she is a malignant narcissist.

my bolding..

Great description!! Maybe whoever writes a book on this case can use it as the title of the chapter about Cindy.

[MiamiNice1]

I know! I used to roll my eyes at his commercials..Now I want to hug him. :loveeyes:

IMO!
K!
I KNOW! M&M are like the State's "pit bulls" going after Casey and her parents. The State couldn't have PLANNED a better plan of attack, if they had tried!

[Neffy]

What annoyed me yesterday is the Defense attorney on JVM, Drew something kept putting down Mitnik/Morgan as wasting the courts time and hurting Casey's case. He even mentioned that the "some other dude did it" defense could be damaged with cases like this. GMAB, I'd like to see more people, who are thrown under a bus by a defense attorney who is trying to get his guilty client off, sue. Why should their reputation be damaged, I have no problem with an attorney attacking the evidence but don't try to blame someone else. I always think of David Westerfields attorney attempting to do that to Westerfields son.
What a creep, and double on Westerfield for allowing it!!

Morgan/Mitnik are hurting Casey's defense. Caseys defense team(s) want to save the other dude did for her murder trial not here. They want to use "Zani" but don't want to pay restitution for making her a scapegoat.

[101Spots]

Remember when CA called Morgan an "ambulance chaser"? Is there a catch phrase for someone that chases around vulnerable parents of missing children in order to drum up donations for a fraudulent fundation? That's a phrase someone needs to coin.:laugh:

"Vulture" does it for me.

[adair]

GM Dells, Yeah supposedly Cindy is using the imaginary people in her head for all those letters of support. Can she actually do that? :biggrin:

I wonder who taught who how to do that?


:crying:

[desmom]

Each day, the opinion you formulate about this seems to become closer and closer to the actual TRUTH of what happened in that house, des!

The only part I have my doubts about is where Casey and George have a conversation. I think Casey probably just stormed into the house, PO'd, with Caylee and said she was exhausted and needed to sleep and then slammed the door to her room shut.

Afterwards, Casey and Caylee came out (as George contends) and left.

Hmmm, you are probably right about Casey & George. I think George goes with the flow when it comes to Casey and always tries to make nice instead of being a parent. jmo

[Lavinia]

Morgan/Mitnik are hurting Casey's defense. Caseys defense team(s) want to save the other dude did for her murder trial not here. They want to use "Zani" but don't want to pay restitution for making her a scapegoat.

No kidding. Goes back to my argument for them needing external controls. You realize who all they would be flinging under the bus, still, except NOW they know it's going to hit them where it hurts. So it was either lies in the first place and they knew it, or they don't care enough about punishing the "real" killer if it may cost them.

[djmsmom]

No kidding. Goes back to my argument for them needing external controls. You realize who all they would be flinging under the bus, still, except NOW they know it's going to hit them where it hurts. So it was either lies in the first place and they knew it, or they don't care enough about punishing the "real" killer if it may cost them.

Well hopefully it will stop the Zanny could be either Jesse or Amy.

[ish]

I KNOW! M&M are like the State's "pit bulls" going after Casey and her parents. The State couldn't have PLANNED a better plan of attack, if they had tried!

And I got the impression Mitnic (I think) will enjoy his upcoming face off with Cindy.

[ish]

Morgan/Mitnik are hurting Casey's defense. Caseys defense team(s) want to save the other dude did for her murder trial not here. They want to use "Zani" but don't want to pay restitution for making her a scapegoat.

too bad for Casey....NOT

[Lavinia]

Well hopefully it will stop the Zanny could be either Jesse or Amy.

I know djsmom! I really think this lawsuit is what kept them from going all out for the Jesse and Amy. That seemed to give them pause more than anything else did. If Mitnick didn't do this, no telling what other collateral damage would have been done. (That, and I'm not real sure that Jesse's dad is someone they thought about tangling with. :scared:)