May 19 to

[AJandTam]

ok, not to be gross but, if they found a torso and legs, would the feet still be attached to the legs?

Don't quote me, but I think they already said no feet. I could be wrong. Those type of details. We take in small doses... Why people have to do these things?

[cog1]

Perhaps this means that this is an identified wash up place based on water drift patterns.

OR the flood was Drew's undoing if this is Stacy. That is what I want to believe anyway.

[imc_e]

Does he have a boat?


Friends of Stacy on her site, said no they do not think Drew had a boat.

jmo

[AJandTam]

This is a great map of the area. I wish I could find the link that stated that Drew used to frequent this area (not the river, but bars near it.)

This river floods all the time and did so massively last fall. Simply put, Drew could have put that barrel in the river at any point, not just the one where she was found.

I am under the impression that this particular area has been searched in the past and due to river clean up, it was suggested (since the flood) that the clean up crew take a closer look on shore while they were cleaning. It was that crew that found that body.

Tam -- Not sure if they will find the skull, the river itself is 20 miles wide in some points and is fed by many smaller rivers, eventually feeding into the Mississippi and the rest is history.


Aman -- Explain the Dresden locks to me. Would these have possibly prevented the barrel from ever traveling any further downstream? I know that it is way further south from where the body was discovered, but my question is, what is their function? Would the body ever have been able to pass this point in a barrel??

Wow, that would be very hard to narrow down an area. Possible that some experts could make a guess on where to look. I don't know..

The timing on this. It's weird. If it is Stacy.. I wouldn't think anyone else would have had access to the body and dumped it recently because they got scared when Drew was arrested, but I guess it is possible.

[cog1]

I have no Idea.
However, if DP asked his stepbrother to help him move this blue barrel from the bedroom to his truck and there is scuba diving equipment missing, how could he get this blue barrel from point A to B once he got to the river?:confused:
I'm now wondering if there is some third party involved after he left the house that night. How could he secure it down in the water and do all that alone.

Great questions Dianna. How long did the step bro say he was gone that night, about an hour or so?

How far away is this site from where Drew and Stacy lived?

I am so bad with maps and locations. TIA

[AZCHARGED]

Most police and fire departments have small boats available. Being a cop, he could very easily have gone and "borrowed" one. I am sure, being the clever person that he is, he knew where to find one.

[cog1]

Wow, that would be very hard to narrow down an area. Possible that some experts could make a guess on where to look. I don't know..

The timing on this. It's weird. If it is Stacy.. I wouldn't think anyone else would have had access to the body and dumped it recently because they got scared when Drew was arrested, but I guess it is possible.

Tam, I had wondered if that is what happened but I think that body was there for a while. Someone from the bar would maybe have noticed someone dumping something on land don't ya think?

Who knows tho and I do think Drew had dark connections.

[cog1]

Most police and fire departments have small boats available. Being a cop, he could very easily have gone and "borrowed" one. I am sure, being the clever person that he is, he knew where to find one.


Yes and it's feasible that he could have known someone who docked a boat and it wouldn't be used for a while so he left the barrel there? Then went back later or told the friend to dump when he went out next? How long before a body would start to smell in one of those barrels if it was sealed well?

:confused:

[JHP]

I have no Idea.
However, if DP asked his stepbrother to help him move this blue barrel from the bedroom to his truck and there is scuba diving equipment missing, how could he get this blue barrel from point A to B once he got to the river?:confused:
I'm now wondering if there is some third party involved after he left the house that night. How could he secure it down in the water and do all that alone.

I'm trying to remember what scuba equipment was missing. I think at one time weights were talked about.

[AJandTam]

http://www.wgnradio.com/news/top/wgnam-river-body-090520,0,5511909.story

The manager of nearby Mugzy's Bar said the body was discovered by the Living Lands and Waters clean-up crew, which the bar had hired to clean part of the river.

"We saw the trooper flying into the parking lot, and the Living Lands and Waters boat was coming down the river and the trooper jumped in their boat," said Ben, who asked that his last name not be used.

Ben said the crew, which is based out of Moline, came about four days ago and he briefed them that searchers had been sifting through the waters, apparently looking for Stacy Peterson's body.

"I told them that we had a flood last September, it was the worst flood ever, it was knee-deep in the parking lot. I told them if you're going to find anything, it's probably going to be onshore, because of the flood," he said. "They'd be a big help and get some closure to this case if they came across something. I knew it was a long shot."

The body was not in the water, but was found in the brush on the shore, according to a state police source. Other bodies had been found in the area in the past, the source said, including the remains of the Vaughn family, which were found in a car on a frontage road near the Stevenson in Channahon Township in 2007.

Interesting. I hadn't seen this report yet so apologize if it's been posted.

Cog, Is he saying that the LE had ask the clean up crew to look for Stacy??

[imc_e]

Great questions Dianna. How long did the step bro say he was gone that night, about an hour or so?

How far away is this site from where Drew and Stacy lived?

I am so bad with maps and locations. TIA


If I recall correctly, I read the remains were found within 50 miles of where she went missing.

imo

[Hannibal]

..I might have misspelled the last name..

http://news.lalate.com/2009/05/21/lisa-stebic-body-found/

So we'll see....

[AJandTam]

He had lots of toys but not sure about a boat. I think he would be wearing his Capt. Rogers hat and acting like the big CAPTIAN if he did. :mad:

But, I'm not sure!

Thanks, it's been so long ago. Details escape me. I follow this one many cases ago..

[cog1]

Cog, Is he saying that the LE had ask the clean up crew to look for Stacy??


I thought that since HE hired them and LE had been looking again in that area, that HE asked them to keep an eye out. Him saying it would give closure to the family and all. My interpretation and I could be wrong.

[AJandTam]

I just heard on CNN that they said they would have the results in 48 to 72 hours. Perhaps sometime late tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully before the long weekend.:glare:

Can't wait. I get the feeling that LE thinks this is Stacy.. I could be wrong.

[AJandTam]

Hi Everyone, I am a lurker on the "Drew" board and haven't been following it much. Can someone tell me what they have found? I know they found a body, did they find a barrel also? Are they doing testing on the body today? Thanks for your help.

Hi Daisy
Yes, a body and the barrel. Although, they say that other barrels have been found out there before. This one was less than a mile from where the body was found.

[AJandTam]

Friends of Stacy on her site, said no they do not think Drew had a boat.

jmo

Thanks for posting that info IMC

[AJandTam]

I have no Idea.
However, if DP asked his stepbrother to help him move this blue barrel from the bedroom to his truck and there is scuba diving equipment missing, how could he get this blue barrel from point A to B once he got to the river?:confused:
I'm now wondering if there is some third party involved after he left the house that night. How could he secure it down in the water and do all that alone.

Good Point unless he rolled it off a truck and into the water..

[AJandTam]

Tam, I had wondered if that is what happened but I think that body was there for a while. Someone from the bar would maybe have noticed someone dumping something on land don't ya think?

Who knows tho and I do think Drew had dark connections.

My thoughts are that it has been there a while too. Don't think it's been reported that it has. Just my assumption.

Not sure about someone noticing or not. I've seen reference to other bodies being dumped there before.

[imc_e]

The remains were found close to a bridge.

Makes me wonder if Drew dropped the barrel from a bridge.

That is a possibility.

[Lrobert1]

I'm trying to remember what scuba equipment was missing. I think at one time weights were talked about.

And wasn't it discussed here, or could be findstacypeterson.com that they were looking into the fact that Drew did borrow a boat around the time Stacy went missing?

Mugzy's Bar is one name I recognize from conversations quite awhile back too.

Is that the bar near one of the bridges near the locks, or around that direction?

[AJandTam]

I thought that since HE hired them and LE had been looking again in that area, that HE asked them to keep an eye out. Him saying it would give closure to the family and all. My interpretation and I could be wrong.

That's what I was asking about. How come w/the new arrest and all LE was out there searching again. I wonder if they already had some new information that made them go looking out there again?

[AJandTam]

I agree. Blue barrel washing up at the same time is very telling.

Not only a blue barrel, but a damaged one. As you would expect it to be damaged and this damage may have contributed to the body escaping the barrel and washing up.. Makes sense to me.

[Lrobert1]

The remains were found close to a bridge.

Makes me wonder if Drew dropped the barrel from a bridge.

That is a possibility.

I realize there's been talk of sandra's evp, and that also many may not believe. Fair enough. She also did say Stacy would be found April of last year....however, it hasn't been too long since April of this year. Providing this is Stacy, which gut feeling is thinking it very well may be.

But I find it rather interesting some things...for one, Drew saying "Let's throw it off the bridge."

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

[mickeymb35]

Does anyone know if his cell phone may have pinged in this area? Do we have that information at all? Just curious. Thanks.

[imc_e]

I realize there's been talk of sandra's evp, and that also many may not believe. Fair enough. She also did say Stacy would be found April of last year....however, it hasn't been too long since April of this year. Providing this is Stacy, which gut feeling is thinking it very well may be.

But I find it rather interesting some things...for one, Drew saying "Let's throw it off the bridge."

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

Thanks for that link,

I had not seen it.

[AJandTam]

This is a very good point you have.
Maybe Drew Peterson is as stoopid as he looks! (Evil murderer):mad:
JMO

Yep, I think this is going to be Stacy, and he is going to probably swear up and down, IT WASN"T ME.. Eyes rolling.. He is evil. IMHO.

[TexanLisa]

Okay, now I'm look for bars in the area! LOL There was a video posted and a bar owner was talking but Ihad the sound down so don't know if that person knew anything of Drew. It was the video that showed the blue barrel at the end of the video.

Good questions about the locks. If they are like our local damn, they open at certain times and things can pass thru. Big things!

Can't wait to hear what Aman reports. Maybe some locals on here know about the bars Drew frequented.


Yeah, we all know Drew loved his bars and young women. That bar owner that was on the video is the one that suggested to the river cleaning crew to search the shoreline due to earlier flooding. Weird, huh?

Yeah, I want to hear more about those locks and Aman has been there according to the previous posts.

[jerry50]

Does anyone know if his cell phone may have pinged in this area? Do we have that information at all? Just curious. Thanks.

IIRC Drew left his cell phone with his brother at a coffeeshop and left with the barrel.

[trich]

I have no Idea.
However, if DP asked his stepbrother to help him move this blue barrel from the bedroom to his truck and there is scuba diving equipment missing, how could he get this blue barrel from point A to B once he got to the river?:confused:
I'm now wondering if there is some third party involved after he left the house that night. How could he secure it down in the water and do all that alone.

supposedly according to what I read there is a bridge where he could have dumped the barrel over it.
If she was only around 100 lbs he could have tipped it over the bridge from the bed of a truck.
But with tides and floods there is no telling where he could have dumped the barrel and it washed up to where it was found.

[cog1]

If I recall correctly, I read the remains were found within 50 miles of where she went missing.

imo


Ty just wondering how far he could have traveled.

[mickeymb35]

IIRC Drew left his cell phone with his brother at a coffeeshop and left with the barrel.


Oh that's right. I forgot about that. Thanks.

[cog1]

And wasn't it discussed here, or could be findstacypeterson.com that they were looking into the fact that Drew did borrow a boat around the time Stacy went missing?

Mugzy's Bar is one name I recognize from conversations quite awhile back too.

Is that the bar near one of the bridges near the locks, or around that direction?

Mugzy's is RIGHT there were they found her. The owner, Ben called this clean up crew.

Peeps, I have to run. Happy sleuthing!

[Lrobert1]

Ok, out of curiousity and I may have missed this...my apologies.

Grand Jury met last Thursday...Tom Morphey, Steve C and Mike Robinson

I have a huge feeling Mike Robinson knows a lot of info as he helped Drew by providing him with a cell phone after Stacy went missing, etc.

This search started after that date, I presume? Interesting how the remains are found shortly after.

Did someone give information at the grand jury?

Just throwing thoughts out there.

[TexanLisa]

I realize there's been talk of sandra's evp, and that also many may not believe. Fair enough. She also did say Stacy would be found April of last year....however, it hasn't been too long since April of this year. Providing this is Stacy, which gut feeling is thinking it very well may be.

But I find it rather interesting some things...for one, Drew saying "Let's throw it off the bridge."

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

I was thinking the very same thing, LR!

[Destini]

Sorry if this has already been posted .... says shreds of blue jeans & a small amount of U.S. currency were found with the remains.

Autopsy inconclusive on body in Illinois river


http://herald-zeitung.com/wire.lasso?report=/dynamic/stories/U/US_REMAINS_FOUND&-session=HeraldZeitung:42F944E30cb8d25DB1kXP406043E

[AZCHARGED]

Ok, out of curiousity and I may have missed this...my apologies.

Grand Jury met last Thursday...Tom Morphey, Steve C and Mike Robinson

I have a huge feeling Mike Robinson knows a lot of info as he helped Drew by providing him with a cell phone after Stacy went missing, etc.

This search started after that date, I presume? Interesting how the remains are found shortly after.

Did someone give information at the grand jury?

Just throwing thoughts out there.

VERY interesting thoughts...timing seems more than coincidental if nothing else.

[AJandTam]

Sorry if this has already been posted .... says shreds of blue jeans & a small amount of U.S. currency were found with the remains.

Autopsy inconclusive on body in Illinois river


http://herald-zeitung.com/wire.lasso?report=/dynamic/stories/U/US_REMAINS_FOUND&-session=HeraldZeitung:42F944E30cb8d25DB1kXP406043E

Well heck. That wasn't good.

[imc_e]

Thanks for the link with news update.

[AJandTam]

Ok, out of curiousity and I may have missed this...my apologies.

Grand Jury met last Thursday...Tom Morphey, Steve C and Mike Robinson

I have a huge feeling Mike Robinson knows a lot of info as he helped Drew by providing him with a cell phone after Stacy went missing, etc.

This search started after that date, I presume? Interesting how the remains are found shortly after.

Did someone give information at the grand jury?

Just throwing thoughts out there.

You may be on to something. If i'm understanding correctly. The LE were suddenly looking back in that area again.. It's been 2 years right? That's pretty coincidental considering the things that have been going on w/Drew..

[AJandTam]

There was questions earlier whether they had found the head. Looks like they didn't?:confused:

a report I saw this morning Dianna, says that they did not find the head/skull yet. They were however out in the river w/search teams. They just may get lucky. Crossing fingers.

[Lrobert1]

Strange. Shredded jeans and a small amount of US currency. Not sure what to think of this.

About the autopsy...disappointing that it was inconclusive.

Now, the autopsy is inconclusive which obviously means that the body was very badly decomposed.

A question. Everyone was speculating about the chlorine and where the heck that barrel of chlorine went. What would chlorine due to a body? Would it also decompose the bones or would it drastically change the nature of them?

[margaritaville]

I agree. Blue barrel washing up at the same time is very telling.


Body found "in a blue barrel"

No head, hands or feet according to ABC news....

A body was found in a barrel on the banks of the Illinois River.
Police are facing major obstacles in identifying the body found along an Illinois river bank near the home of accused murderer Drew Peterson since the corpse is missing its head, arms and skin.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

[Lrobert1]

a report I saw this morning Dianna, says that they did not find the head/skull yet. They were however out in the river w/search teams. They just may get lucky. Crossing fingers.

Gosh, I hope they find more soon. Imagine being these poor families awaiting and wondering if it's their loved one? So sad!

[Lrobert1]

Body found "in a blue barrel"

No head, hands or feet according to ABC news....

A body was found in a barrel on the banks of the Illinois River.
Police are facing major obstacles in identifying the body found along an Illinois river bank near the home of accused murderer Drew Peterson since the corpse is missing its head, arms and skin.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

In the title in the link it says "near blue barrel." So which is it? :confused:

[aproudmom]

I agree. Blue barrel washing up at the same time is very telling.

they just said on HLN not sure it is her the blue barrel is not like the one his Step-Brother described..I hope they are wrong and it is her very odd IMO

[TexanLisa]

Sorry if this has already been posted .... says shreds of blue jeans & a small amount of U.S. currency were found with the remains.

Autopsy inconclusive on body in Illinois river


http://herald-zeitung.com/wire.lasso?report=/dynamic/stories/U/US_REMAINS_FOUND&-session=HeraldZeitung:42F944E30cb8d25DB1kXP406043E

From that link:

Coroner Patrick O'Neil said in a news release Thursday that his office is unable to discern the identity, race or sex of the skeletal remains. O'Neil says an expedited DNA analysis will likely take about two weeks.



Looks like we might be waiting for a bit.

[Lrobert1]

Are we all getting our hopes up high again? I truly hope not. Stacy needs to be found and I so hope it is her so it can bring closure to her family.

[aproudmom]

Gosh, I hope they find more soon. Imagine being these poor families awaiting and wondering if it's their loved one? So sad!

ITA I feel so bad for these families I only hope one can have some sort of closure. I think they are pretty sure the barrel is not the one his step-brother described but we can pray it is her and he goes down for her death also..seems him and his lawyer are not to worried about it perhaps they both know just were she is or just where she is not:sneaky:

New Judge I just heard good news but also heard he could be out by the weekend...:thumbdown:

[AJandTam]

Body found "in a blue barrel"

No head, hands or feet according to ABC news....

A body was found in a barrel on the banks of the Illinois River.
Police are facing major obstacles in identifying the body found along an Illinois river bank near the home of accused murderer Drew Peterson since the corpse is missing its head, arms and skin.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

What are they talking about. It's been reported all day long that the barrel was found sunday. Somebody in the media is going to have to start getting some facts right. I'm getting confused.

[no1what]

IIRC Drew left his cell phone with his brother at a coffeeshop and left with the barrel.

The details I heard was that Drew left his cell phone with his step-brother. Made calls to his phone from Stacey's cell. Went back picked up the step-brother dropped him off at home, went back and pick him up a 2nd time and took him to his house to help with carrying the blue barrel then drove the step-brother back home.

IMO from what I have read is that Drew got rid of the barrel after he returned Thomas back home.

[TexanLisa]

In the meantime Drew Peterson is likely to have his bail lowered and he could get released soon.:w00t:
If this happens they better keep a very close eye on him. He knows every trick in the book, he's an ex-cop.
House arrest?

Where is he possibly going to go where he won't be recognized?

He is too cocky to run.

Why would he run, anyway? He is just a poor unfortunate soul. After all, someone killed his third wife during their division of marital property and then his fourth wife runs off with a younger man and only a bikini.
<blech>

His ego would NEVER allow him to run, IMO.

[AJandTam]

From that link:

Coroner Patrick O'Neil said in a news release Thursday that his office is unable to discern the identity, race or sex of the skeletal remains. O'Neil says an expedited DNA analysis will likely take about two weeks.



Looks like we might be waiting for a bit.

Blasted all. They aren't going to start that again are they> I heard earlier 48-72 hours. I've heard experts on tv say they can have it that fast. Come on. Grrrrrrrr

[imc_e]

I would hope that they are testing the blue barrel for signs of decomposition taking place in it.

[aproudmom]

In the meantime Drew Peterson is likely to have his bail lowered and he could get released soon.:w00t:
If this happens they better keep a very close eye on him. He knows every trick in the book, he's an ex-cop.
House arrest?

I agree just heard on HLN he could be out by the weekend..sure hope they do watch him..I know everyone is innocent until proven guilty but I am sorry if your in for Murder you should be held until trial or at least have a leg monitor on..if they have enough to make the charge they should have enough to keep these killers from walking free for a few years until trial..but that is JMO

[no1what]

Prosecution won the change of Judges; they now have a female Judge residing over the case (unless the defense challenges the new Judge).

The bond hearing is re-scheduled for tomorrow before the new Judge.

[5boxersmom]

Body found "in a blue barrel"

No head, hands or feet according to ABC news....

A body was found in a barrel on the banks of the Illinois River.
Police are facing major obstacles in identifying the body found along an Illinois river bank near the home of accused murderer Drew Peterson since the corpse is missing its head, arms and skin.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

Wonder if someone did that on purpose so they couldn't be id'd?

This reminds me so much of when Laci was found. :sad:

[AJandTam]

ITA I feel so bad for these families I only hope one can have some sort of closure. I think they are pretty sure the barrel is not the one his step-brother described but we can pray it is her and he goes down for her death also..seems him and his lawyer are not to worried about it perhaps they both know just were she is or just where she is not:sneaky:

New Judge I just heard good news but also heard he could be out by the weekend...:thumbdown:

Omg. Tell whoever who said he could be out by the weekend to bite thier tongue..

[imc_e]

Just learning from friends of Stacys family that there have been 2 barrels found and both have been recovered.

No Link, so jmo..

[AJandTam]

Just learning from friends of Stacys family that there have been 2 barrels found and both have been recovered.

No Link, so jmo..

Really. Now that is interesting.. tell us more if you hear more..

Thank ya much IMC

[aproudmom]

Cog, Is he saying that the LE had ask the clean up crew to look for Stacy??

the women that found it talked with NG today from what they said this women did not even connect the blue barrel and SP until later on and then they called LE maybe she will be on NG tonight even though I am sure she has been ask not to talk to much..but from what I heard they was not told to keep their eyes open for a barrel but did not see the whole interview so could be more..

[trich]

Blasted all. They aren't going to start that again are they> I heard earlier 48-72 hours. I've heard experts on tv say they can have it that fast. Come on. Grrrrrrrr

I really don't believe that.
They should be able to tell from the bones whether male or female.
Also from the pelvis .
Now I can understand not knowing the dna yet .
There is some reason for making that statement if indeed the coroner did make it.

[aproudmom]

Just learning from friends of Stacys family that there have been 2 barrels found and both have been recovered.

No Link, so jmo..

they had found one in that area some time ago so starting to sound like this is a huge dumping ground for everything..

[imc_e]

I really don't believe that.
They should be able to tell from the bones whether male or female.
Also from the pelvis .
Now I can understand not knowing the dna yet .
There is some reason for making that statement if indeed the coroner did make it.

I heard it was female because of the underwear.

jmo

[GentleBreeze]

I wonder how long Stacy was dead before Drew was able to ask his stepbrother to help him move that blue barrel. Earlier we talked about how small that blue barrel was compared to her height and weight. Now we discover she is missing these body parts.
WTH? Peterson has her body parts all over Illinois somewhere, or what?:ohmy:
No wonder he's smirking and acts like he doesn't have a care in the world about anyone or anything...

The barrel looked plenty big enough to curl a small 100 pound body up inside it, imo. I think the barrel had become damaged and was most likely letting water inside of it and when it was finally hit again by something it caused the lid to pop off releasing the body into the waterway. The head, arms and hands are the first to disarticulate when the body has been in water for any length of time.

For all we know the torso/legs may have been on shore for quite awhile way back when the river overflowed its banks and then receded.

They have found blue barrels before that turned out to be nothing.

Does any one know when the barges come through there do they churn up a wake or waves that pushes the water out of its banks?

imo

[AJandTam]

the women that found it talked with NG today from what they said this women did not even connect the blue barrel and SP until later on and then they called LE maybe she will be on NG tonight even though I am sure she has been ask not to talk to much..but from what I heard they was not told to keep their eyes open for a barrel but did not see the whole interview so could be more..

Hi Proud... Gosh, i'm having Laci and Scott flashbacks all day.. SP, Scott Peterson, SP Stacy Peterson.

I am getting all confused. I thought the women who found the barrel was not w/ the cleaning crew that found the remains??

[vonna]

Where is he possibly going to go where he won't be recognized?

He is too cocky to run.

Why would he run, anyway? He is just a poor unfortunate soul. After all, someone killed his third wife during their division of marital property and then his fourth wife runs off with a younger man and only a bikini.
<blech>

His ego would NEVER allow him to run, IMO.

The man belongs in jail!! House arrest is too good for him.

[GentleBreeze]

I really don't believe that.
They should be able to tell from the bones whether male or female.
Also from the pelvis .
Now I can understand not knowing the dna yet .
There is some reason for making that statement if indeed the coroner did make it.

I couldn't understand that either, trich. Maybe they are just being oeverly cautious until they can confirm one way or the other.

imoo

[aproudmom]

We can still hope it is proudmom. IIRC, his stepbrother was drunk on the night of and that blue barrel is pretty much trashed. Heck, it's been 18 plus months. (Lets hope it is Stacy):huh:
JMO

I so hope it is and pray the family finds out soon..the waiting is hard on us just imagine what these families are going through:sad:

[AJandTam]

I really don't believe that.
They should be able to tell from the bones whether male or female.
Also from the pelvis .
Now I can understand not knowing the dna yet .
There is some reason for making that statement if indeed the coroner did make it.

Trich, I"m glad you said that because thats what I was thinking too. Didn't sound right that they could not determine these things by the bones. I don't know about race but I thought they can tell sex, approximate age, approximate height.

[trich]

I heard it was female because of the underwear.

jmo

I was going to point that out also.

[AJandTam]

The barrel looked plenty big enough to curl a small 100 pound body up inside it, imo. I think the barrel had become damaged and was most likely letting water inside of it and when it was finally hit again by something it caused the lid to pop off releasing the body into the waterway. The head, arms and hands are the first to disarticulate when the body has been in water for any length of time.

For all we know the torso/legs may have been on shore for quite awhile way back when the river overflowed its banks and then receded.

They have found blue barrels before that turned out to be nothing.

Does any one know when the barges come through there do they churn up a wake or waves that pushes the water out of its banks?

imo

Gentle. I can't tell the size of that barrel by looking at them little pictures, but we have a barrel like that. Different color, ours is rustic.. lol.. but i'm 4'11 and roughly 100 lbs. I know I could get into ours w/room left over.

This is how I think it happened too. The barrel got damaged and the lid came off, body fell out..

[aproudmom]

I really don't believe that.
They should be able to tell from the bones whether male or female.
Also from the pelvis .
Now I can understand not knowing the dna yet .
There is some reason for making that statement if indeed the coroner did make it.

ok this is bringing back Laci P all over again...how long did it take them to identifiy her remains IIRC they knew right away it was a women so I have to agree they should be able to rule out a man

[AJandTam]

On Fox News at 1pm, NY, They interviewed the lady that saw the blue barrel and she said she thought of Stacy right away. She made a call to LE and when she went hiking again with her daughter she noticed the barrel was still there and said oh maybe it wasnt anything but thought about it some more and decided to call the state police. The state police ask her to send them a picture of it that she took of it and State was on there cell phone with her when they went looking for it.

Someone on here a few minutes ago said they heard that there were two barrels and LE had them both. Maybe this is part of the confusion.

[AJandTam]

ok this is bringing back Laci P all over again...how long did it take them to identifiy her remains IIRC they knew right away it was a women so I have to agree they should be able to rule out a man

I want to say it was like 3 days? Wasn't a long time. We talked about Laci and Connor recently when Caylee A was being ID'ed.

[Tokyo Rose]

I just heard a body had been found. I think this is Stacey. I just have a feeling it is. I hope they have finally found her and can give some closure to the family. I hope DP is sweating bullets.

jmo

[5boxersmom]

I want to say it was like 3 days? Wasn't a long time. We talked about Laci and Connor recently when Caylee A was being ID'ed.

4 days. You were close. :biggrin:

Body found April 14th. ID'd April 18th. Connor was found on the 13th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laci_Peterson

[GentleBreeze]

Gentle. I can't tell the size of that barrel by looking at them little pictures, but we have a barrel like that. Different color, ours is rustic.. lol.. but i'm 4'11 and roughly 100 lbs. I know I could get into ours w/room left over.

This is how I think it happened too. The barrel got damaged and the lid came off, body fell out..

The ones we have are black and I could get down in one with plenty of room to spare and I am 5'4" weigh 119 lbs. The typical barrel sold down here is 55 gallons.

If this is SP then I do think the barrel is relevant but heck Lisa's husband may have placed her in a barrel also. Quite a few bodies unfortunately have been found down inside these kind of barrels.

[aproudmom]

On Fox News at 1pm, NY, They interviewed the lady that saw the blue barrel and she said she thought of Stacy right away. She made a call to LE and when she went hiking again with her daughter she noticed the barrel was still there and said oh maybe it wasnt anything but thought about it some more and decided to call the state police. The state police ask her to send them a picture of it that she took of it and State was on there cell phone with her when they went looking for it.

well heck did not hear all that but they just played a very small portion on her interview..that's why I said could be more cause she never said any of that in the part I just listened to...thanks trigger wow glad she called it in again so many would have just forgot about it so happy she did call again

[AJandTam]

4 days. You were close. :biggrin:

Body found April 14th. ID'd April 18th. Connor was found on the 13th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laci_Peterson

Hey Boxer. I hope they don't make us wait 7-14 days on this one.. Grrrrr The talking heads have said they can have results in as little as 48-72 hours. We hate the waiting game..

[GentleBreeze]

Hey Boxer. I hope they don't make us wait 7-14 days on this one.. Grrrrr The talking heads have said they can have results in as little as 48-72 hours. We hate the waiting game..

Right. I think they are going to rush to get the answer much sooner than 2 weeks. Dr. Kobey has said it takes about 3 days if they immediately get on it.

imo

[AJandTam]

The ones we have are black and I could get down in one with plenty of room to spare and I am 5'4" weigh 119 lbs. The typical barrel sold down here is 55 gallons.

If this is SP then I do think the barrel is relevant but heck Lisa's husband may have placed her in a barrel also. Quite a few bodies unfortunately have been found down inside these kind of barrels.

I was hoping we would get an approximate age. I know they can tell from a skull but I dont' know if they can w/a torso and legs. I always thought they could tell how many children a women had too. Maybe not.. Those bones just a torso and legs should be telling them so much.. Experts know these things.

[AJandTam]

Right. I think they are going to rush to get the answer much sooner than 2 weeks. Dr. Kobey has said it takes about 3 days if they immediately get on it.

imo

I hope so. It was torture when we had to wait to hear if that was Caylee. Although, I think deep down we already knew.

[AJandTam]

The lady said nothing about 2 barrels, thats interesting though. Boy im glad she decided to go back hiking there, since LE I guess did nothing about her call. Unbelievebale, ya know. I wonder if anyone can get the transcript of the show I saw today Live desk and post it here. I go take m y grandson to the gym. I remember Drews neighbor saw a blue barrel in his back yard and said it wasnt there now. Drew said he never had a blue barrel then someone had taken a pic of it so its very interesting. And I would luv it to be Stacy.

Dang it Trigger. Wish they could have found the skull today. This is just going to drive us nuts.

Maybe NG and Greta will do this story tonight and have some information for us..

[velvetbrown]

I hope she's not eighteen and single. :biggrin:

LOL...thanks, I needed that.

[AJandTam]

Hey Tam!

What happened with the blue barrel? I missed it. They found it? :ohmy:

Hey Forensic..

They found a blue barrel on Sunday. The barrel was found less than a mile from where these remains were found.

Autopsy done already. They said they can't tell sex, race or anything .. so we have to wait for DNA testing.

[velvetbrown]

I think they are playing this very close to the chest...I'm sure both sets of relatives provided dna samples ages ago, 'just in case'...It's definately a small woman, and my gut feeling is that she's wearing swimsuit bottoms...I don't know about you, but my panties have a number on them, not S, M, L....

[koawally]

the women that found it talked with NG today from what they said this women did not even connect the blue barrel and SP until later on and then they called LE maybe she will be on NG tonight even though I am sure she has been ask not to talk to much..but from what I heard they was not told to keep their eyes open for a barrel but did not see the whole interview so could be more..

Both Stacy and Lisa Stebic had C Sections with childbirth.

Not sure if they even had the pelvic bone found with the remains.

Does anyone know where Stacys children are right now??

Any legal eagles here?

Since both Lisa and Stacy's husbands are suspects...how will LE get DNA samples from the children of both woman. I know other family members would give DNA...but what about the children supplying this as well or is that normally done through the courts in cases like this?

TIA

[aproudmom]

Michelle Williams is the one that saw it..she saw it on Sunday called LE then saw the news of the blue barrel and got a sick feeling..just saw her on HLN.

[5boxersmom]

Hey Boxer. I hope they don't make us wait 7-14 days on this one.. Grrrrr The talking heads have said they can have results in as little as 48-72 hours. We hate the waiting game..

Oh I know. I hate to wait too.

Wish we knew.

[AJandTam]

Thanks! OMG I hope it's Stacey so she can have a proper burial and rest in peace.

Yes me too, very sad.. I feel bad for her children if it is her..

[~jomomma~]

what time is it in chicago? is it 4:30?

i'm trying to catch the 5:00 news so i can watch it live.

[AJandTam]

Both Stacy and Lisa Stebic had C Sections with childbirth.

Not sure if they even had the pelvic bone found with the remains.

Does anyone know where Stacys children are right now??

Any legal eagles here?

Since both Lisa and Stacy's husbands are suspects...how will LE get DNA samples from the children of both woman. I know other family members would give DNA...but what about the children supplying this as well or is that normally done through the courts in cases like this?

TIA

In that article the other day where Drew was saying that he thinks he will be found innocent. That article said who has the children, I believe it was one of Drews grown children.

[5boxersmom]

Both Stacy and Lisa Stebic had C Sections with childbirth.

Not sure if they even had the pelvic bone found with the remains.

Does anyone know where Stacys children are right now??

Any legal eagles here?

Since both Lisa and Stacy's husbands are suspects...how will LE get DNA samples from the children of both woman. I know other family members would give DNA...but what about the children supplying this as well or is that normally done through the courts in cases like this?

TIA


They probably already have DNA samples from both of them. Remember how they took Caylee's hairbrush and toothbrush? Dr. Phil show today was what will happen to SP's children. I do not know who all was on there. I did not watch it just seen the info. Maybe someone on the West Coast can get it.

[velvetbrown]

Both Stacy and Lisa Stebic had C Sections with childbirth.

TIA

If they have the pelvic bone, the shape alone shows if it's male or female. Stacey and Lisa will not have the telltale 'notch' marks of a woman who gave birth naturally...

[velvetbrown]

If they have the pelvic bone, the shape alone shows if it's male or female. Stacey and Lisa will not have the telltale 'notch' marks of a woman who gave birth naturally...

Sorry, meant to say vaginally...

[AJandTam]

Oh I know. I hate to wait too.

Wish we knew.

The family must be going insane. I do wonder if Stacy's children are hearing this. I hope not. Not until we know for sure. But in school, ya know..

[5boxersmom]

The family must be going insane. I do wonder if Stacy's children are hearing this. I hope not. Not until we know for sure. But in school, ya know..

So sad. I read that the family was contacted by the State Police, I wonder if they ever contacted them before when other bodies were found?

[koawally]

They probably already have DNA samples from both of them. Remember how they took Caylee's hairbrush and toothbrush? Dr. Phil show today was what will happen to SP's children. I do not know who all was on there. I did not watch it just seen the info. Maybe someone on the West Coast can get it.

Good to know 5boxersmom Thanx

Thanks everyone for answering.

Hope we hear the results soon

Hope the playboy stays behind bars, where he belongs!!!

[AJandTam]

So sad. I read that the family was contacted by the State Police, I wonder if they ever contacted them before when other bodies were found?

Hmmmmm that is a very very good question. Maybe someone here knows. I don't know.

[aproudmom]

OK I see now why I am so confused the man actually found remains the women saw a blue barrel on Sunday she was not the one that found them she only saw the barrel as her and her husband was walking in the area and then saw it on the news on Tuesday..thought I was losing it..lol

The remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones. The remains were found with shreds of blue jeans containing a small amount of U.S. currency, according to the coroner's office.
The head, arms and parts of the body below the knee were not found with the remains examined today, the coroner's office said. Authorities continue to search for them, officials said.:sad:

They were found by Chad Pregracke, the founder of Living Lands & Waters in East Moline, a nonprofit group that cleans up waterways in nine states.

Pregracke, 34, was alone on a 30-foot flat bottom work boat Wednesday shortly before 2:30 p.m., pulling garbage out of the Des Plaines River when he came across the bones.

"When I saw it I stood there for about 10 minutes, just thinking, 'Man, is that what I think it is?'" he said. "I wasn't super freaked out or nothing, but I didn't want to call if it was nothing."


A plastic blue barrel was spotted in the vicinity of the body. Channahon resident Michelle Williams told WGN Radio host John Williams this morning that she and her husband saw the barrel in heavy brush on the riverbank on Sunday and she saw it again on Tuesday.



http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/channahon-des-plaines-river-body-recovery-illinois-state-police.html

[AJandTam]

Good to know 5boxersmom Thanx

Thanks everyone for answering.

Hope we hear the results soon

Hope the playboy stays behind bars, where he belongs!!!

I missed the boat somewhere. I just don't see why anyone would want ol' Drew..

[koawally]

So sad. I read that the family was contacted by the State Police, I wonder if they ever contacted them before when other bodies were found?


That is strange.

Perhaps Cassandra was used to try and identify the underware found.

[koawally]

I missed the boat somewhere. I just don't see why anyone would want ol' Drew..

Only young girls would buy what he's selling. His ego is BIG and throwing money at them coupled with drinks...who knows:scared:

[GentleBreeze]

I missed the boat somewhere. I just don't see why anyone would want ol' Drew..

Looks like the Coroner doesn't have much to work with.:sad:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's office said.

[imc_e]

Apparently she noticed a blue barrel in the same place going back to either Fall 2007 or Spring 2008, called LE, didn't hear back, called again..and that blue barrel has been in that location for some time.

Then when the remains were found, that blue barrel was recovered.

Also I heard via friends of her family (no link) that there were 2 barrels recovered.

jmo

[koawally]

Looks like the Coroner doesn't have much to work with.:sad:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's office said.

Isn't that sad!!! Hopefully identification will help a family give a proper buriel to their loved one.

I'm really thinking though it must be Stacy, perhaps because of the barrel(s)

Earlier today, state police said the remains were "severely deteriorated" and "mainly skeletal," cautioning that DNA testing may be needed for positive identification

The head, arms and parts of the body below the knee were not found with the remains examined today, the coroner's office said. Authorities continue to search for them, officials said.

[iluvmua]

Does anybody know when the autopsy results will be in?

please please please let this be Stacy. she needs a proper resting place. those poor kids :crying:

[5boxersmom]

That is strange.

Perhaps Cassandra was used to try and identify the underware found.

Here is where I read it. Doesn't say anything about Lisa's family being notified, just Stacy's.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/could-remains-be-stacy-peterson-or-lisa-stebic

[AJandTam]

Only young girls would buy what he's selling. His ego is BIG and throwing money at them coupled with drinks...who knows:scared:

No doubt, but money or no money.. Ewwww

[GentleBreeze]

Here is where I read it. Doesn't say anything about Lisa's family being notified, just Stacy's.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/could-remains-be-stacy-peterson-or-lisa-stebic

I saw on a video a spokesperson for Lisa's family and I think they have been notified also.

It could be either one. Is anyone else missing in that area besides Stacy and Lisa?

imo

[AJandTam]

Looks like the Coroner doesn't have much to work with.:sad:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's office said.

Yes, not much. What I am wondering. If he put chemicals on her body. Could this be the reason that maybe they can not tell much. Just a thought.

[imc_e]

Stacy would never have left her children..

I love this pic of her in the playpen with her little girl at 1:45 on the timer..


http://www.libertysuburban.com/images/slideshows/stacypix/soundslider.swf

[GentleBreeze]

Does anybody know when the autopsy results will be in?

please please please let this be Stacy. she needs a proper resting place. those poor kids :crying:

The initial autopsy was done today. They did not glean any information from the remains.

Said DNA testing can take up to two weeks.

imoo

[aproudmom]

Question does anyone know if there is any other missing person in that area?

I also am not a ME but they could not tell if it is a women or a man:confused:

video on remains found
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/21/illinois.body.found/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo

[GentleBreeze]

Question does anyone know if there is any other missing person in that area?

I also am not a ME but they could not tell if it is a women or a man:confused:

video on remains found
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/21/illinois.body.found/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo

I am not sure the pelvic bones were there with the remains.

imo

[aproudmom]

The initial autopsy was done today. They did not glean any information from the remains.

Said DNA testing can take up to two weeks.

imoo

GB can they usually not tell from the size of the bones if it is more than likely a man or a women? maybe they just dont want to say until DNA comes back..boy what a long wait for these families..My prayers are with all of them..this has got to be so hard the not knowing

[Crispy]

I am not sure the pelvic bones were there with the remains.

imo

Can't they usually tell from the femur too? I thought I heard that somewhere.

I think it would be horrible if he got out on bail and then the ID came back. I think they should rush this like crazy before he can get out. jmo

[doradoll]

The barrel looked plenty big enough to curl a small 100 pound body up inside it, imo. I think the barrel had become damaged and was most likely letting water inside of it and when it was finally hit again by something it caused the lid to pop off releasing the body into the waterway. The head, arms and hands are the first to disarticulate when the body has been in water for any length of time.

For all we know the torso/legs may have been on shore for quite awhile way back when the river overflowed its banks and then receded.

They have found blue barrels before that turned out to be nothing.

Does any one know when the barges come through there do they churn up a wake or waves that pushes the water out of its banks?

imo

maybe this was mentioned before, but...

the BIL Morphy's description of the barrel does not match this barrel, per the reporter that is closest to him....on HLN earlier

[aproudmom]

I am not sure the pelvic bones were there with the remains.

imo

omg just seen them carrying the body how sad..so if they had the pelvic bone then it would be easier to say if it is a women or a man..thanks GB

[no1what]

Looks like the Coroner doesn't have much to work with.:sad:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's office said.

Info they can get from these remains:

Male or female

Age

giving birth or not

Height

bone injuries

I was also wondering if they had enough of the rib cage that if there was a breast augmentation that the inserts would still be with the body. These implants would have id numbers on them.

[AJandTam]

Can't they usually tell from the femur too? I thought I heard that somewhere.

I think it would be horrible if he got out on bail and then the ID came back. I think they should rush this like crazy before he can get out. jmo

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Agreed.

[GentleBreeze]

Yes, not much. What I am wondering. If he put chemicals on her body. Could this be the reason that maybe they can not tell much. Just a thought.

I really don't think so Tam. All of this damage and disarticulation is because this body has been in the water for a very long time. I guess we should be thankful that this much held together. The longer it stayed in that water and with animal activity on shore there may not have been enough where someone would even notice the remains there.

At least the ME does have enough that he can get dna from the largest bone.

imoo

[AJandTam]

Info they can get from these remains:

Male or female

Age

giving birth or not

Height

bone injuries

I was also wondering if they had enough of the rib cage that if there was a breast augmentation that the inserts would still be with the body. These implants would have id numbers on them.

Interesting. I doubt that there was anything left to keep the implants w/the body, but interesting information.

[AJandTam]

I really don't think so Tam. All of this damage and disarticulation is because this body has been in the water for a very long time. I guess we should be thankful that this much held together. The longer it stayed in that water and with animal activity on shore there may not have been enough where someone would even notice the remains there.

At least the ME does have enough that he can get dna from the largest bone.

imoo

Oh ok. I was just thinking he might have sealed her w/a chemical in this barrel.

[trich]

According to this link there was no blue barrel.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-body-search-21may21,0,1221131.story
I saw that woman say she found one .
What is going on?

[AJandTam]

According to this link there ws no blue barrel.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-body-search-21may21,0,1221131.story
I saw that weoman say she found one .
What is going on?

They don't know what they are talking about. There was a barrel too. GentleBreeze posted a pic of it in the boat w/the search guys.

[5boxersmom]

I saw on a video a spokesperson for Lisa's family and I think they have been notified also.

It could be either one. Is anyone else missing in that area besides Stacy and Lisa?

imo

I missed Lisa's family being notified. Good to know.

I found this site.

http://illinoismissingadults.com/

[~jomomma~]

i hope they are still searching for more bones, etc. in that area! maybe more washed up on shore. has anybody heard if anything is going on?

[GentleBreeze]

Info they can get from these remains:

Male or female

Age

giving birth or not

Height

bone injuries

I was also wondering if they had enough of the rib cage that if there was a breast augmentation that the inserts would still be with the body. These implants would have id numbers on them.

I am sure they have contacted an anthropologist to look at these remains.

Not sure if they can tell if the person had a child or not. The pelvic bone may have already detached.

They should be able to tell the approximate height of the victim by the femur bone though and yes, if the bones had any injuries although it will be hard to tell if they happened before she died or after she was in the water where something could have struck the body in passing.

Since there is no skin on the bones I wouldn't think the implants would still be there.

imo

[aproudmom]

maybe this was mentioned before, but...

the BIL Morphy's description of the barrel does not match this barrel, per the reporter that is closest to him....on HLN earlier

I had heard that was still hoping it could be her though..:sad:

[~jomomma~]

only partial femurs collected, per the guy on JVM (sorry, didn't catch who he was)
:sleep:

[GentleBreeze]

They don't know what they are talking about. There was a barrel too. GentleBreeze posted a pic of it in the boat w/the search guys.

Sheesh, I hate it when the different media sites put out misinformation. It seems to happen in every case lately.

In the video I linked it also stated that the police have taken possession of the blue barrel.

imo

[no1what]

I am sure they have contacted an anthropologist to look at these remains.

Not sure if they can tell if the person had a child or not. The pelvic bone may have already detached.

They should be able to tell the approximate height of the victim by the femur bone though and yes, if the bones had any injuries although it will be hard to tell if they happened before she died or after she was in the water where something could have struck the body in passing.

imo

They can tell if you have had a past break and the break healed. They can also tell injuries before or after death to bones.

[mrsmcgoo]

On JVM they are saying 2-3 weeks until indentify can be determined.

:sad:

[mrsmcgoo]

I don't know who that lawyer is for Drew, he has another that is on JVM, but cut from the same cloth as Joel.

:mad:

[GentleBreeze]

They can tell if you have had a past break and the break healed. They can also tell injuries before or after death to bones.

Yes, you are correct, any old healed injuries they could tell but I think it becomes murkier about injuries right around the time of death and right after death if something struck the body as it passed over the body. Inless it was a stab wound or a gunshot wound.

It seems the remains did not yield much at all so far. From what the ME stated they could not ascertain anything not even if the remains or female or male. That tells me they have very little to work with.

imo

[aproudmom]

According to this link there was no blue barrel.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-body-search-21may21,0,1221131.story
I saw that woman say she found one .
What is going on?

from what I have read they found one close to the remains..the remains were not in the barrel

[velvetbrown]

I'll bet you a taco it's female

[AJandTam]

Sheesh, I hate it when the different media sites put out misinformation. It seems to happen in every case lately.

In the video I linked it also stated that the police have taken possession of the blue barrel.

imo

. LOL. It kind of looked like they had taken possession of it huh??

You are right. They should be more careful.

[cantstandnuts]

from what I have read they found one close to the remains..the remains were not in the barrel



http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6823493&rss=rss-wls-article-6823493

Link above says the same, aproudmom.

[AJandTam]

from what I have read they found one close to the remains..the remains were not in the barrel

This is how I understood it too. The barrel wasn't far away, a mile at the most.

[~jomomma~]

I'll bet you a taco it's female

i'll raise you an enchilada :sneaky:

[velvetbrown]

i'll raise you an enchilada :sneaky:

I'll see your enchilada and raise you a margarita

[FallenAngel♥]

I missed Lisa's family being notified. Good to know.

I found this site.

http://illinoismissingadults.com/

Don't you find it funny that Lisa nor Stacy's on that site :(

[FallenAngel♥]

I'll see your enchilada and raise you a margarita

I'll see your margarita and raise you chips and salsa.

[sunstar]

On JVM they are saying 2-3 weeks until indentify can be determined.

:sad:

Hi! I'm not at all surprised, especially if the remains turn out to be Stacy or even Lisa ~ they've both been missing quite a while.


Nancy Grace is also supposed to talk about the finding on her show in a couple of minutes. :smile:

[5boxersmom]

Don't you find it funny that Lisa nor Stacy's on that site :(

That is strange. I don't know who is in charge of putting the missing on there.

[GentleBreeze]

Don't you find it funny that Lisa nor Stacy's on that site :(

I did think that was strange.

imo

[5boxersmom]

I don't know who that lawyer is for Drew, he has another that is on JVM, but cut from the same cloth as Joel.

:mad:

:seeya:

Hey you. :biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

NG getting ready to talk about the remains being found.

[mrsmcgoo]

Hi! I'm not at all surprised, especially if the remains turn out to be Stacy or even Lisa ~ they've both been missing quite a while.


Nancy Grace is also supposed to talk about the finding on her show in a couple of minutes. :smile:



Hi!! lol

Besides Drew being an irritating son of a gun, his lawyers are about as appealing as nails on a chalkboard. lol

Hope Nancy gets some new info for us Sun!!

[AJandTam]

Hi! I'm not at all surprised, especially if the remains turn out to be Stacy or even Lisa ~ they've both been missing quite a while.


Nancy Grace is also supposed to talk about the finding on her show in a couple of minutes. :smile:

Keep us informed. I had to sacrafice the tv's for the computer.. Kids ya know.. Purdy please.

Thank you, Sunstar..

[GentleBreeze]

NG getting ready to talk about the remains being found.

Hubby is watching a baseball game. What is NG saying about it?

TIA

[mrsmcgoo]

:seeya:

Hey you. :biggrin:

Hey you 2!! lol

I felt bad for Lisa Stebic's cousin tonight, she said that it was stated at one time that Lisa was last seen wearing jeans. Those poor families!

[GentleBreeze]

Keep us informed. I had to sacrifice the tv's for the computer.. Kids ya know.. Purdy please.

Thank you, Sunstar..

LOL I guess I am selfish. I don't want to let go of my computer to go to another room to watch tv.:smile:

imo

[AJandTam]

LOL I guess I am selfish. I don't want to let go of my computer to go to another room to watch tv.:smile:

imo

Don't feel bad. I'm hogging the computer. Normally, I do let them have it at night. Because they bicker to much if they dont' have thier own.. useless earplugs.. :biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

Hey you 2!! lol

I felt bad for Lisa Stebic's cousin tonight, she said that it was stated at one time that Lisa was last seen wearing jeans. Those poor families!

Yes I heard that earlier today. So sad. Stacy's little kids break my heart. :sad:

[~jomomma~]

LOL I guess I am selfish. I don't want to let go of my computer to go to another room to watch tv.:smile:

imo

ahhh...the advantages of living alone :biggrin:

(kids are grown and gone...i'm sure i woulda had a fight on my hands if they were still here LOL)

[sunstar]

Hi!! lol

Besides Drew being an irritating son of a gun, his lawyers are about as appealing as nails on a chalkboard. lol

Hope Nancy gets some new info for us Sun!!

She was just talking to the lady who discovered the blue barrel while she was at the river on Sunday, and since the lady knew about the case, she photographed it and called LE. :thumbsup:

[~jomomma~]

Hey you 2!! lol

I felt bad for Lisa Stebic's cousin tonight, she said that it was stated at one time that Lisa was last seen wearing jeans. Those poor families!

this is so freaking sad :sad:

[CommonSense]

The articles I've read today say that the remains had blue jeans on.

I think Stacy Peterson was reported missing in a red jogging suit.

But Lisa Stebic was reported missing wearing blue jeans.....

[aproudmom]

OK where did the underwear come from I heard jeans and did they say it was a women in the past 30 minutes:confused:

[aproudmom]

The articles I've read today say that the remains had blue jeans on.

I think Stacy Peterson was reported missing in a red jogging suit.

But Lisa Stebic was reported missing wearing blue jeans.....

I heard jeans also..but NG just said underwear unless I heard it wrong and it was a women

[AJandTam]

I've heard underwear and i've heard jeans. Just about everyone wears jeans and who can believe the husbands so I doubt that means much if there is jeans or not jeans.

[aproudmom]

She was just talking to the lady who discovered the blue barrel while she was at the river on Sunday, and since the lady knew about the case, she photographed it and called LE. :thumbsup:

did they go out on Sunday? since we all know it was located close to the remains on Tuesday right? but only because the clean up crew found remains..so I am guessing they did not go check until they got the call on Tuesday at 2:30 from the clean up guy

[Lrobert1]

If Stacy was going to paint, why would she wear a red jogging suit. Chances are it would have been jeans, right?

Honestly, who'd believe Drew anyhow. He also said she took her bikini.

[dref99]

OK where did the underwear come from I heard jeans and did they say it was a women in the past 30 minutes:confused:

Underwear was mentioned on an early report
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/body_desplaines

Jeans are mentioned after the autopsy but not sex
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/autopsy_inconclusive

Other items that were discovered include shreds of blue jeans

An autopsy .. did not "reveal any significant information in reference to the identity, race or sex of the skeletal remains.

[sunstar]

The articles I've read today say that the remains had blue jeans on.

I think Stacy Peterson was reported missing in a red jogging suit.

But Lisa Stebic was reported missing wearing blue jeans.....

We really have no idea what Stacy had on though. I heard a reporter on Nancy's show saying it was only underwear that the remains had on. :shrug:

[AJandTam]

Hmmmm. Go figure. Did you hear that? They had to go to Stacy's immediate family for DNA. Drew would not provide it for them?:glare:
That jerk is something else. It's almost like he's laughing at them all.
Can't touch this, total attitude.
They showed a clip of Drew and Brodsky on a morning show saying "if they really thought they had something he would be arrested but they don't."
Well, well, well, buddy your a$$ is sitting in jail, now.:tonguewag:
jmo

:laugh: teach him to run his mouth.

[RockStarGirl]

Hi everyone, long time, no post. LOL

This is what I have heard, not sure what is true, but for what it is worth:

Yes, a blue barrel was found, about a mile from where the remains were found, however these barrels are found all the time. Drew knew that, probably why he used it.

Yes, remains wearing underwear with shreds of jeans found with the remains also shreds of U.S. Currency.

LE has the barrel that was found, but no way of knowing now if it is related. Again, many, many blue barrels have been found in this area over the past two years.

[GentleBreeze]

We really have no idea what Stacy had on though. I heard a reporter on Nancy's show saying it was only underwear that the remains had on. :shrug:

It does get confusing Sun.

I just read that the jeans were shredded and she also had underwear on and money was found in the jeans in a small amount.

imo

[AJandTam]

Hi everyone, long time, no post. LOL

This is what I have heard, not sure what is true, but for what it is worth:

Yes, a blue barrel was found, about a mile from where the remains were found, however these barrels are found all the time. Drew knew that, probably why he used it.

Yes, remains wearing underwear with shreds of jeans found with the remains also shreds of U.S. Currency.

LE has the barrel that was found, but no way of knowing now if it is related. Again, many, many blue barrels have been found in this area over the past two years.

Unless he put cement or something in the barrel to weigh the body down.

[RockStarGirl]

Unless he put cement or something in the barrel to weigh the body down.

Yes, this is true. I HOPE that what they found will eventually put all questions to rest and this scumbag goes to jail for life!!

[RayStar]

Please let it be Stacy, I want to see the look on Drew's face after the id. This is going to be a long hard wait for many of us who want the id result now.

[AJandTam]

Yes, this is true. I HOPE that what they found will eventually put all questions to rest and this scumbag goes to jail for life!!

Heck yeah. And who knows what else the drivers are going to find. I bet they go over that area w/some great equipment and do thier best to find as much as possible.

[AJandTam]

Please let it be Stacy, I want to see the look on Drew's face after the id. This is going to be a long hard wait for many of us who want the id result now.

I hope they find the skull in the next day or so, then maybe we can ID w/dental records.. Crossing fingers anyhow.

[kellabeck]

Can I just say how hilarious I find Joel Brodsky's statement that Stacy's not in trouble that she can just reappear. She won't be prosecuted!! Ha ha ha ha!

How nice.

[AJandTam]

Don't they use the hip bone to get DNA from sometimes when no teeth are available..I thought I read that somewhere..
No head and no arms..no finger prints and no teeth..
I hope this is Stacy so her family can bury her..

:seeya: Terrible huh? .

[AJandTam]

Can I just say how hilarious I find Joel Brodsky's statement that Stacy's not in trouble that she can just reappear.

How nice.

Maybe she just did.

[5boxersmom]

Don't they use the hip bone to get DNA from sometimes when no teeth are available..I thought I read that somewhere..
No head and no arms..no finger prints and no teeth..
I hope this is Stacy so her family can bury her..

How did they ID Laci? She was missing the same limbs wasn't she? Wasn't it DNA?

[AJandTam]

How did they ID Laci? She was missing the same limbs wasn't she? Wasn't it DNA?

Yes, they did DNA

[sunstar]

It does get confusing Sun.

I just read that the jeans were shredded and she also had underwear on and money was found in the jeans in a small amount.

imo

Thanks GB, I hadn't had a chance to read much before Nancy's show came on. Money in the jeans pocket? Well that would at least rule out the victim was killed during a robbery. :wink:

[sunstar]

Maybe she just did.

I pray she has too! I am so sick of DP's arrogant attitude that she just ran off with a boyfriend or only had a bikini and passport with her. :angry:

[~jomomma~]

it's amazing that there was still a pair of underwear, imo

omg, the suspense is making me crazy!

[5boxersmom]

Yes, they did DNA

And it only took 4 days.

[AJandTam]

Hey there pretty girl..:seeya:
Separating body parts..my lord..how awful for her family to know this..if this is her..I hope something really really bad happens to him..slowly.

Awww CG.. I agree.

[AJandTam]

I pray she has too! I am so sick of DP's arrogant attitude that she just ran off with a boyfriend or only had a bikini and passport with her. :angry:

Me too. He is so bad. Does not care what happened to her.

[AJandTam]

And it only took 4 days.

Someone said 5 days earlier. I had thought four too.

[aproudmom]

I live in a small community and just opened our paper and seen a cop killed his G/F and then himself after she broke up with him he busted her door in with a battering ram and shot her in the chest..the sad thing is she also told friends and family if she did not show up for work more than likely it would have something to do with her breaking up with this cop...2 children are without their young mother..WHY? I just ate at the restaurant she worked at a couple of weeks ago..sorry O/T but I think so many women try to get out and this is what happens so they just stay and put up with the abuse in fear of being killed..

I kinda wish DP had took himself out also instead of living like he has for all these years I know that sounds horrible but I guess it is hard to think of all these kids not having a mother or a father now and he may get out on bond but the damage has been done to those kids...

[5boxersmom]

Someone said 5 days earlier. I had thought four too.

That was me. I changed it after I googled. :biggrin:

[AJandTam]

That was me. I changed it after I googled. :biggrin:

Darn CRS :biggrin:

[sunstar]

it's amazing that there was still a pair of underwear, imo

omg, the suspense is making me crazy!

And, IIRC, wasn't Laci P. still wearing a bra? It is amazing how that fabric seems to stay intact. MOO

[AJandTam]

And, IIRC, wasn't Laci P. still wearing a bra? It is amazing how that fabric seems to stay intact. MOO

Seems like Laci was wearing the bra and some pants.

[~jomomma~]

Seems like Laci was wearing the bra and some pants.

:sad:

:rose: for Laci and Conner

[sunstar]

Seems like Laci was wearing the bra and some pants.

Yes, I remember the pants too (and being different from what SP said he last saw her in) but there just seems to be some dignity, for lack of a better word, that the underwear was still on these remains and Laci's bra was also still on. MOO

[~jomomma~]

Yes, I remember the pants too (and being different from what SP said he last saw her in) but there just seems to be some dignity, for lack of a better word, that the underwear was still on these remains and Laci's bra was also still on. MOO

i know what you're saying :sleep:

[AJandTam]

:sad:

:rose: for Laci and Conner

Today has really been a reminder of just how we will never forget Laci and Connor..

[AJandTam]

Yes, I remember the pants too (and being different from what SP said he last saw her in) but there just seems to be some dignity, for lack of a better word, that the underwear was still on these remains and Laci's bra was also still on. MOO

Right, IIRC, it was the pants she was seen in the night before at her sisters work. . Not the ones he said she was wearing.

[GentleBreeze]

How did they ID Laci? She was missing the same limbs wasn't she? Wasn't it DNA?

I believe they identified her through DNA taken from the femur bone.

imo

[CommonSense]

in looking at maps....it does appear that Peterson lived closer to the Des Plaines River than Stebic did.

[GentleBreeze]

it's amazing that there was still a pair of underwear, imo

omg, the suspense is making me crazy!

I think the shredded jeans helped to preserve the underwear.

Hopefully they can be identified.

imo

[mrsmcgoo]

She was just talking to the lady who discovered the blue barrel while she was at the river on Sunday, and since the lady knew about the case, she photographed it and called LE. :thumbsup:


Smart lady!! :thumbsup: I missed NG talking to her and had to go for a few minutes.

[mrsmcgoo]

it's amazing that there was still a pair of underwear, imo

omg, the suspense is making me crazy!


I was thinking about that too. If it is Stacy, that barrel may have preserved whatever clothing was still on. Guess we could thank Drew for that if it is.

[sunstar]

in looking at maps....it does appear that Peterson lived closer to the Des Plaines River than Stebic did.

I was thinking the same thing. If it does turn out to be Stacy, I'm also hoping they can determine the rate of the current, and how far she would've traveled in the river ~ even though it's been over 1-1/2 years. I'd also think if the remains are Stacys that she was inside some container (like the blue barrel) until recently. MOO

[TexanLisa]

Seems like Laci was wearing the bra and some pants.

Oh Lord yes, the infamous Motherhood Maternity Pants that were or were not the pants she wore when Amy cut Scoot's hair.

Just trying to catch up here.

What is with all the freaking blue barrels found in this river? Do they swim upriver and spawn here? Sheesh.

You know as much as I hope that either Lisa or Stacy's family gets their closure (whatever that means), one thing is for sure, this is someone's relative and they deserve it, as well.

Kathleen's children have been through mortal hades, first their mom dies and then their stepmom dies. I say Kathleen's children because the only children Drew ever cared about are the young female kind that he dated.

IMO, I would think they could ascertain something from the underwear that was found. The tag was still intact in Laci's pants, remember?
Heck, I remember you mentioning earlier, what if it weren't underwear and was really the bikini. Wouldn't that be a smack in the butt for ole Drew?

IMO, they will probably have something prelim on the DNA by Tuesday. I only say that because Monday is a holiday.

OK, whoever had the Mexican buffet earlier, please share, I am starving!

[sunstar]

I think the shredded jeans helped to preserve the underwear.

Hopefully they can be identified.

imo

That makes sense. Denim can withstand a lot.

[Heyes]

Had to pop in and say that I hope it is Stacy or Lisa, otherwise there's another sad story out there. On a lighter note I have never seen a man look so good in his "bling"! It fits him like a glove.
I saw a clip of his girlfriend going to visit him at jail. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMAN?
I want to see that POS drew go down in flames. I want to see that smirk wiped right off his and his lawyers faces. The only good thing that came out of this is he didn't have a chance to kill this new fiance. Thank goodness for that.
Does anyone here think that the new girlfriend will still be by his side if this turns out to be Stacy? (((shiver)))

[Tia]

I hope they find the skull in the next day or so, then maybe we can ID w/dental records.. Crossing fingers anyhow.

Hi Tam!!

I am hoping for that too. I can't imagine that Drew dismembered her (sorry guys), because he could never have covered up the FE. It does seem like he stuffed her entire body into the barrel and dumped her, so the possibility of finding a skull is still there.

[legalmania]

Had to pop in and say that I hope it is Stacy or Lisa, otherwise there's another sad story out there. On a lighter note I have never seen a man look so good in his "bling"! It fits him like a glove.
I saw a clip of his girlfriend going to visit him at jail. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMAN?
I want to see that POS drew go down in flames. I want to see that smirk wiped right off his and his lawyers faces. The only good thing that came out of this is he didn't have a chance to kill this new fiance. Thank goodness for that.
Does anyone here think that the new girlfriend will still be by his side if this turns out to be Stacy? (((shiver)))

I hope so to. This guy just makes me so sick. He's a liar and not what L.E. is all about. Casey and him would make a good couple

[CommonSense]

I was thinking the same thing. If it does turn out to be Stacy, I'm also hoping they can determine the rate of the current, and how far she would've traveled in the river ~ even though it's been over 1-1/2 years. I'd also think if the remains are Stacys that she was inside some container (like the blue barrel) until recently. MOO

here's an older article where they were actually searching adjacent to the Des Plaines River for Peterson.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Police-Search-Des-Plaines-River-Canal-for-Clues-in-Stacy-Peterson-Case-April-29-2009.html

[GentleBreeze]

I was thinking about that too. If it is Stacy, that barrel may have preserved whatever clothing was still on. Guess we could thank Drew for that if it is.

I am still not sure that the blue barrel is tied to this case. Now if it is Stacy, it may be, but several blue barrels have been found.

The shredding of the jeans just doesn't sound like a body that was entombed inside of a barrel until recently. Usually when that happens it is because the body has been on the bottom of the riverbed and the currents ,dirt/sand, will eat away at the clothing as it is drifting in the water. Also this victim could have been weighted down in the river and the floods in September made her break free and the friction of her moving along would shred her clothing as she struck underwater trees, stumps and other debris.

It makes me feel very uncomfortable thinking which victim I want this to be. To even have such thoughts is eerie in a way. Whomever this is certainly deserves true justice.

I think on one hand about Stacy and know that DP is already in jail then on the other hand I think of Lisa where no killer has been arrested but still walks free among us.

So my only hope that whomever this poor soul is that it will help bring closure for their family with at least knowing what happened to them.

imo

[Mamie]

Had to pop in and say that I hope it is Stacy or Lisa, otherwise there's another sad story out there. On a lighter note I have never seen a man look so good in his "bling"! It fits him like a glove.
I saw a clip of his girlfriend going to visit him at jail. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMAN?I want to see that POS drew go down in flames. I want to see that smirk wiped right off his and his lawyers faces. The only good thing that came out of this is he didn't have a chance to kill this new fiance. Thank goodness for that.
Does anyone here think that the new girlfriend will still be by his side if this turns out to be Stacy? (((shiver)))


bolding mine. She's a kid, that's all. JMO

[legalmania]

I am still not sure that the blue barrel is tied to this case. Now if it is Stacy, it may be, but several blue barrels have been found.

The shredding of the jeans just doesn't sound like a body that was entombed inside of a barrel until recently. Usually when that happens it is because the body has been on the bottom of the riverbed and the currents ,dirt/sand, will eat away at the clothing as it is drifting in the water. Also this victim could have been weighted down in the river and the floods in September made her break free and the friction of her moving along would shred her clothing as she struck underwater trees, stumps and other debris.

It makes me feel very uncomfortable thinking which victim I want this to be. To even have such thoughts is eerie in a way. Whomever this is certainly deserves true justice.

I think on one hand about Stacy and know that DP is already in jail then on the other hand I think of Lisa where no killer has been arrested but still walks free among us.

So my only hope that whomever this poor soul is that it will help bring closure for their family with at least knowing what happened to them.

emo

Didn't the step brother say he was asked to help carry the blue barrel?

[spiritwolf46]

Well all, just heard on the local news about the blue barrel being found with the body that they just located.

MAN! That SOB! He really thought that she would never be found, didn't he?

I think that it is Stacy.

At least her family will have some closure.

:rose: For Stacy and her family.

[Tia]

Didn't the step brother say he was asked to help carry the blue barrel?

Yes. Way too much of a co-inky-dink IMO. Whether he was a druggie, drunk whatever the defense is claiming, he SAID he helped Drew load up a blue barrel and now a blue barrel is found with what LE thinks to be a small woman............I'm betting its Stacy.

[spiritwolf46]

Didn't the step brother say he was asked to help carry the blue barrel?

Good evening, Legal!

IIRC, he sure did. And didn't he go into hiding after he stated that because he was so afraid of Drew?

[mrsmcgoo]

I am still not sure that the blue barrel is tied to this case. Now if it is Stacy, it may be, but several blue barrels have been found.

The shredding of the jeans just doesn't sound like a body that was entombed inside of a barrel until recently. Usually when that happens it is because the body has been on the bottom of the riverbed and the currents ,dirt/sand, will eat away at the clothing as it is drifting in the water. Also this victim could have been weighted down in the river and the floods in September made her break free and the friction of her moving along would shred her clothing as she struck underwater trees, stumps and other debris.

It makes me feel very uncomfortable thinking which victim I want this to be. To even have such thoughts is eerie in a way. Whomever this is certainly deserves true justice.

I think on one hand about Stacy and know that DP is already in jail then on the other hand I think of Lisa where no killer has been arrested but still walks free among us.

So my only hope that whomever this poor soul is that it will help bring closure for their family with at least knowing what happened to them.

imo

You make good points! Good points about it being Stacy or Lisa and have me thinking, Drew is already in his home, would be nice to have justice for Lisa as well.

And yes, this poor soul's family will have closure.

JMO

[Mamie]

I am still not sure that the blue barrel is tied to this case. Now if it is Stacy, it may be, but several blue barrels have been found.
The shredding of the jeans just doesn't sound like a body that was entombed inside of a barrel until recently. Usually when that happens it is because the body has been on the bottom of the riverbed and the currents ,dirt/sand, will eat away at the clothing as it is drifting in the water. Also this victim could have been weighted down in the river and the floods in September made her break free and the friction of her moving along would shred her clothing as she struck underwater trees, stumps and other debris.

It makes me feel very uncomfortable thinking which victim I want this to be. To even have such thoughts is eerie in a way. Whomever this is certainly deserves true justice.

I think on one hand about Stacy and know that DP is already in jail then on the other hand I think of Lisa where no killer has been arrested but still walks free among us.

So my only hope that whomever this poor soul is that it will help bring closure for their family with at least knowing what happened to them.

imo


bolding mine - I wonder if that is what made DP, like Casey, at ease because several had been found but no body, so he thought she'd never be found. JMO

[legalmania]

Good evening, Legal!

IIRC, he sure did. And didn't he go into hiding after he stated that because he was so afraid of Drew?

And they found blue barrels after he said that, to pick a blue one not black not white blue. The step brother is not lying.

[sunstar]

Had to pop in and say that I hope it is Stacy or Lisa, otherwise there's another sad story out there. On a lighter note I have never seen a man look so good in his "bling"! It fits him like a glove.
I saw a clip of his girlfriend going to visit him at jail. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMAN?
I want to see that POS drew go down in flames. I want to see that smirk wiped right off his and his lawyers faces. The only good thing that came out of this is he didn't have a chance to kill this new fiance. Thank goodness for that.
Does anyone here think that the new girlfriend will still be by his side if this turns out to be Stacy? (((shiver)))

Well, by visiting him in jail, the fact that he's been charged with murdering Kathleen doesn't seem to bother her, so it probably won't matter to her if the remains are Stacy's or not. MOO

[spiritwolf46]

Yes. Way too much of a co-inky-dink IMO. Whether he was a druggie, drunk whatever the defense is claiming, he SAID he helped Drew load up a blue barrel and now a blue barrel is found with what LE thinks to be a small woman............I'm betting its Stacy.

I am betting it is, too, Tia!

At least Drew doesn't have a chance to run!

I feel SO bad for her family!

[GentleBreeze]

Didn't the step brother say he was asked to help carry the blue barrel?

Yes, I believe he did but I read that the step brother is saying this is not the barrel that he helped move.

imo

[sunstar]

Yes. Way too much of a co-inky-dink IMO. Whether he was a druggie, drunk whatever the defense is claiming, he SAID he helped Drew load up a blue barrel and now a blue barrel is found with what LE thinks to be a small woman............I'm betting its Stacy.

Even if this doesn't turn out to be Stacy, I still believe Morphey. Given the choice of believing him or DP, I'll choose Morphey. MOO

[GentleBreeze]

bolding mine - I wonder if that is what made DP, like Casey, at ease because several had been found but no body, so he thought she'd never be found. JMO

I have no doubt he thought Stacy would never ever be found.

imo

[Heyes]

I hope so to. This guy just makes me so sick. He's a liar and not what L.E. is all about. Casey and him would make a good couple

Ha, drew and casey's ego's wouldn't be able to fit in one room. Who would kill the other one first?
What I want is for this trial to get going. I want to see casey head for the death chamber and drew following behind. Too bad scott peterson is in Cali. otherwise I would hope he'd lead. Now Since OJ is locked up. Drew is locked up, Casey is locked up. Scott sits on death row, the last POS on my list is joran vandersloot. He is next. Dead or arrested, heck I don't care.
I have no ideal about drews parents but after seeing jorans, scotts and casey's parents I kinda see why they turned out the way they did. Just an observation. :glare:

[legalmania]

Yes, I believe he did but I read that the step brother is saying this is not the barrel that he helped move.

imo

So they have different kinds of blue barrels? I've never seen a blue barrel, only white or black and sometimes orange.

[GentleBreeze]

Couldn't possibly be Stacy then.... DrewP says she took $25,000 when she ran off ....... :rolleyes:

Yes but Drew has a problem. When his mouth moves he is lying.:smile:

imo

[Heyes]

bolding mine. She's a kid, that's all. JMO

Hmmmm, I don't think that's all. I feel for her dad.

[legalmania]

Ha, drew and casey's ego's wouldn't be able to fit in one room. Who would kill the other one first?
What I want is for this trial to get going. I want to see casey head for the death chamber and drew following behind. Too bad scott peterson is in Cali. otherwise I would hope he'd lead. Now Since OJ is locked up. Drew is locked up, Casey is locked up. Scott sits on death row, the last POS on my list is joran vandersloot. He is next. Dead or arrested, heck I don't care.
I have no ideal about drews parents but after seeing jorans, scotts and casey's parents I kinda see why they turned out the way they did. Just an observation. :glare:

Well maybe they could have a mass death row kill. A world book of records sorta deal?

[TexanLisa]

So they have different kinds of blue barrels? I've never seen a blue barrel, only white or black and sometimes orange.


Obviously they reproduce in the DesPlaines river.

As for the currents and determining where this body went in the river, I would think all the flooding in that area would confuse that issue.

[GentleBreeze]

So they have different kinds of blue barrels? I've never seen a blue barrel, only white or black and sometimes orange.

I guess they must up there legalmania. Down here in the south we have the dark green ones and black ones.

Did the step brother ever say if it was made of thick plastic because they are now making those or was it a common metal 55 gallon barrel?

imo

[sunstar]

did they go out on Sunday? since we all know it was located close to the remains on Tuesday right? but only because the clean up crew found remains..so I am guessing they did not go check until they got the call on Tuesday at 2:30 from the clean up guy

She spoke a couple of times on Nancy's show, and my post was after the first time, before she had explained that she didn't call LE until after the remains were found. But she said she took the photo of the barrel on Sunday because she'd followed the case.

[sunstar]

Couldn't possibly be Stacy then.... DrewP says she took $25,000 when she ran off ....... :rolleyes:

Oh that's right! Well, maybe the robber who killed her forgot to take everything. If these remains are Stacy, I can only imagine what the defense will come up with. :rolleyes: MOO

[Heyes]

Well maybe they could have a mass death row kill. A world book of records sorta deal?

LOL, Well there is a recession going on and we do need to save money...... anywho I would love to see drews reaction when he was told that a body was found. I heard his attorney say that "they are not concerned". Now I know they're both fools. drew and his buddy should be concerned, very concerned. Just on the charges he's been arrested on, let alone if this turns out to be Stacy.

[legalmania]

I guess they must up there legalmania. Down here in the south we have the dark green ones and black ones.

Did the step brother ever say if it was made of thick plastic because they are now making those or was it a common metal 55 gallon barrel?

imo

I'm not sure. But no head no arms what he didn't hear of dna they don't need a lot there could just be bones and get dna. I guess he thought he had the perfect crime.

[legalmania]

LOL, Well there is a recession going on and we do need to save money...... anywho I would love to see drews reaction when he was told that a body was found. I heard his attorney say that "they are not concerned". Now I know they're both fools. drew and his buddy should be concerned, very concerned. Just on the charges he's been arrested on, let alone if this turns out to be Stacy.

I don't know what happened to this guy as a child but Peter Pan and Neverland is not real Drew, it's time for you to stop using your imagination you are a murderer.

[spiritwolf46]

Ha, drew and casey's ego's wouldn't be able to fit in one room. Who would kill the other one first?
What I want is for this trial to get going. I want to see casey head for the death chamber and drew following behind. Too bad scott peterson is in Cali. otherwise I would hope he'd lead. Now Since OJ is locked up. Drew is locked up, Casey is locked up. Scott sits on death row, the last POS on my list is joran vandersloot. He is next. Dead or arrested, heck I don't care.
I have no ideal about drews parents but after seeing jorans, scotts and casey's parents I kinda see why they turned out the way they did. Just an observation. :glare:

GREAT post!

[playnice]

Prayers for Stacy and Lisa family this holiday weekend. I hope there is at least a preliminary confirmation tomorrow so these families dont have to wonder for days who the body is. So much evidence was destroyed in Kathleens murder I dont feel comfortable in this arrest but I think if this Stacy it will nail DP but good.

[Mamie]

Well maybe they could have a mass death row kill. A world book of records sorta deal?

What an idea! I wonder if our world will ever come to that. I can see that happening----not in our lifetime, but I can see that as a real possibility. But hey, I'm sick and demented----what do I know. JMO

[sunstar]

I'm not sure. But no head no arms what he didn't hear of dna they don't need a lot there could just be bones and get dna. I guess he thought he had the perfect crime.

I just wish they could get a closer DNA sample, like from Stacy's children, rather than having to rely on other family members. :mad:

[AJandTam]

Oh Lord yes, the infamous Motherhood Maternity Pants that were or were not the pants she wore when Amy cut Scoot's hair.

Just trying to catch up here.

What is with all the freaking blue barrels found in this river? Do they swim upriver and spawn here? Sheesh.

You know as much as I hope that either Lisa or Stacy's family gets their closure (whatever that means), one thing is for sure, this is someone's relative and they deserve it, as well.

Kathleen's children have been through mortal hades, first their mom dies and then their stepmom dies. I say Kathleen's children because the only children Drew ever cared about are the young female kind that he dated.

IMO, I would think they could ascertain something from the underwear that was found. The tag was still intact in Laci's pants, remember?
Heck, I remember you mentioning earlier, what if it weren't underwear and was really the bikini. Wouldn't that be a smack in the butt for ole Drew?

IMO, they will probably have something prelim on the DNA by Tuesday. I only say that because Monday is a holiday.

OK, whoever had the Mexican buffet earlier, please share, I am starving!

Lisa, Somewhere this morning, I was reading an article that actually said that people were putting blue barrels out there for a while because they knew of the reference to Stacy, and they were doing it as a joke.. Can you believe that? Stinking lousey people.

Hmmmmmmmm on the label..

This sounds good. Prelim on the DNA. Like that idea.

Hey if they share the mexican w/you, will you let me have a bite. Sounds so yummy.. Mexican for movie night this week. I like it..

[AJandTam]

Had to pop in and say that I hope it is Stacy or Lisa, otherwise there's another sad story out there. On a lighter note I have never seen a man look so good in his "bling"! It fits him like a glove.
I saw a clip of his girlfriend going to visit him at jail. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMAN?
I want to see that POS drew go down in flames. I want to see that smirk wiped right off his and his lawyers faces. The only good thing that came out of this is he didn't have a chance to kill this new fiance. Thank goodness for that.
Does anyone here think that the new girlfriend will still be by his side if this turns out to be Stacy? (((shiver)))
Hi ya Heyes
Sorry but that is one iggy girl, the GF. Come on.. . His history w/the wives...I need some lysol and bleach after looking at his pic online. Dang..

Yeah buh bye smirk. That would be a good day..

[AJandTam]

Hi Tam!!

I am hoping for that too. I can't imagine that Drew dismembered her (sorry guys), because he could never have covered up the FE. It does seem like he stuffed her entire body into the barrel and dumped her, so the possibility of finding a skull is still there.

I agree Tia. I don't think he chopped the body up either. I am assuming they will be out there searching again the first thing tomrrow. I really want to know if there is cement in the barrel. Maybe a "leak" on that tommorrow.

[AJandTam]

Yes. Way too much of a co-inky-dink IMO. Whether he was a druggie, drunk whatever the defense is claiming, he SAID he helped Drew load up a blue barrel and now a blue barrel is found with what LE thinks to be a small woman............I'm betting its Stacy.

Weird how everyone just gets a feeling when a body is found, who it belongs too. This time, I do feel like it is Stacy. No reason why. I just do.. Same feeling w/Laci and Caylee, the boy in the playground today.. You just kind of feel it..

[AJandTam]

Yes, I believe he did but I read that the step brother is saying this is not the barrel that he helped move.

imo

Wonder how he knows this? It is a standard blue barrel right?

[cali650]

Just hearing the news. Sad. Hearts are heavy in the Chicago area, because there are at least two women from that area that are missed and loved. And since there is more than one missing mom, daughter, sister, LE will want to be very careful about the identification.

Peace.

[AJandTam]

Well maybe they could have a mass death row kill. A world book of records sorta deal?

W/the express lane open?? :biggrin:

[legalmania]

Wonder how he knows this? It is a standard blue barrel right?

A lot of us are not familiar with blue barrels. Do they have several different varieties?

[TexanLisa]

Lisa, Somewhere this morning, I was reading an article that actually said that people were putting blue barrels out there for a while because they knew of the reference to Stacy, and they were doing it as a joke.. Can you believe that? Stinking lousey people.

Hmmmmmmmm on the label..

This sounds good. Prelim on the DNA. Like that idea.

Hey if they share the mexican w/you, will you let me have a bite. Sounds so yummy.. Mexican for movie night this week. I like it..

Why would people think that would be funny in any way? I am going with the theory that they were hoping that LE would search more if they kept finding barrels. Yeah, that's what I am going to believe.....

No one sent me Mexican........ I went straight to the margaritas, but I will share with you, if you like!