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Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:07 AM

Good morning Tex, thanks for the new thread, and may I join my prayer with yours, we did receive a miracle over the weekend with little Briant Rodriguez!

Going to be a slow sleepy day, rain rain rain!good morning to you X and ALL...Miracles do ...happen..every day of our lives for each of us...this is how I see it.. we do need a special Miracle for little Haleigh and so many others that have not been found.

Rain here as well X..but..you know what they say about Mother Nature.......lol..lets all have a great day..at least...lets try. :thumbsup:

Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:10 AM

Good Morning Tex, and to all who joins us.

Haleigh, little girl lost, I agree. Wishing the same miracle for Haleigh that brought little Briant home.good morning to ya P. .............I hope with little Briant beling found alive..this will give Haleigh's family more hope that Haleigh will also be found and returned home..safe and sound. :thumbsup:

Peaches

05-18-2009, 08:22 AM

Prayers for a little girl lost........Haleigh Marie Cummings

Good morning everyone. Good to see all of you here with your thoughts and prayers for Haleigh.

As usual, I would like to join you in praying that today is the day this precious child is brought home.

:wub: Texas, thanks for starting our thread.................and with your continue thoughts and prayers for Haleigh.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:23 AM

Did we get ANY new news regarding Haleigh over the weekend? I'll check art's site, BRB
news that created more questions for me...course much goes right over my head..lol..and I was so far behind yesterday and took forever to catch up. By then it was bedtime..I just can't hang with the big boys...lol..Have a good day X.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:33 AM

Good morning everyone. Good to see all of you here with your thoughts and prayers for Haleigh.

As usual, I would like to join you in praying that today is the day this precious child is brought home.

:wub: Texas, thanks for starting our thread.................and with your continue thoughts and prayers for Haleigh.TY..TY..TY..Peaches..am finally learning to do the threads....course..I had help the first time I did it...so..can't take all the credit..but can do it now..lol..I believe we need all the prayers we can get for little Haleigh..its been so long and I have a sinking feeling..kwim? I am so blessed as I feel certain ALL here is..we are able to see and hold our children/grandchildren.....so very many MISSING CHILDREN's Families can not....I think of this often. Lets get our hopes up and have nothing but good thoughts for Haleigh.....:wub:

Peaches

05-18-2009, 08:34 AM

Did we get ANY new news regarding Haleigh over the weekend? I'll check art's site, BRB

On good thing that I saw this week-end, MadameX, was that the video that Ron made received a lot of media time on tv.

To me, this is GREAT news. Seeing her picture on tv every so many minutes was a good thing.......even with many saying the video was B rated or worse..............it did what Ron wanted to do -------I think ----------and that was to remind people to keep calling in tips about Haleigh..............thank those who are working on the case............

And keep her name on the minds and hearts of many.

God bless you Haleigh...............your parents love you and want you to come home.

jmo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:35 AM

I suppose no more news about KP lawyering up and wanting Cobra out of town???I have got to read the transcripts and try and figure this one out..cause.........

.I am really :confused:......well....more confused than usual..lol.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 08:37 AM

I suppose no more news about KP lawyering up and wanting Cobra out of town???

bullyjo, I could not believe it when I read that KP was lawyering up. Why? Can anyone explain this to me? AND...............do we even know that it is true?

I guess I have many questions........about KP. Why would see want Cobra out of town?

Haleigh..............were are you precious baby?

Peaches

05-18-2009, 08:42 AM

I have got to read the transcripts and try and figure this one out..cause.........

.I am really :confused:......well....more confused than usual..lol.

So am I, Texas, more confused than usual...................if that is possible on this case.

As I asked earlier, WHY would KP need her own attorney? Until we learn more about this...........not from Cobra............I will still ask if it is true.

Also, why is he saying that she wants him out of town?

Do you think that he is trying to seperate himself from KP and Crystal so that others will confide in him?

All these "media" seekers ............... I do not trust any of them.

jmo

It would be good if the focus was back on Haleigh as it should be instead of the 3 ring circus.

jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 08:45 AM

I have no clue. Just going on what people were saying. I think some said there should be a transcript coming.
jo

I can not wait to read it. And I have my salt box handy.

panache

05-18-2009, 08:52 AM

Crystal Breaks Down At Vigil

Cindy Anthony attempts to comfort her.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

panache

05-18-2009, 09:03 AM

Blog Talk Radio Wrap Up!

http://www.bloggernews.net/120909

cuppajoe

05-18-2009, 09:07 AM

I agree Peaches. It put Haleigh back into the news, whether or not some didn't like the video. But since I am not into the bashing of Haleighs family members, I thought it did what was wanted. Get Haleigh out there.

You bashed Crystal when you posted this:

Originally Posted by bullyjo
I have asked this before. Does mommy ever have any responsibility for her kids? Or is she just there to be a baby carrier?

IMO

:thumbdown:

Peaches

05-18-2009, 09:08 AM

Crystal Breaks Down At Vigil

Cindy Anthony attempts to comfort her.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

Like most things, unless we walk in those shoes, we do not really know how they feel.

I pray that I never do but their pain is deep and their pain does not leave them. My heart breaks for all those missing loved ones.

May God bless them all! jmo

AND, may Haleigh come home safe!

panache

05-18-2009, 09:12 AM

Do you mean Kim Picazzio? Isn't she already a lawyer, why does she need one?

Most likely for the Haleighbug Foundation and her plans to make it non-profit.

moo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 09:18 AM

I don't watch GR, but he was supposed to have KP on, anyone know?

I heard that too so I was prepared to watch............GR, I guess, threw them over for something he thought more important! jmo:crying:

To me nothing is more important than finding a missing child. jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 09:20 AM

Could be. Wonder about the comment on KP wanting Cobra out of town?
jo

My question is what is Cobra up to now?

First, Ron's mom was trying to kill him??????

Now, KP wants him out of town??????

Anything....everything.....I just do not trust this man. That's just me I guess.

jmo:shrug:

panache

05-18-2009, 09:21 AM

Could be. Wonder about the comment on KP wanting Cobra out of town?
jo

If you recall, one of Kim's last interviews she mentioned that she didn't need Cobra any longer, and if he wanted to continue it was on his own dime. (paraphrased). I can't recall which interview it was, but if you google her name, you might find it.

moo

panache

05-18-2009, 09:22 AM

I heard that too so I was prepared to watch............GR, I guess, threw them over for something he thought more important! jmo:crying:

To me nothing is more important than finding a missing child. jmo

Normally its the Fox Channel that decides which story to run, not the host.

moo

panache

05-18-2009, 09:25 AM

cuppajoe, I asked a question relating to what we were talking about that day. If you want to take that as bashing, have a field day with it.

So, can you tell me what Crystal has done for her first two kids in the last 4 or so years? TIA
jo

Amazing, just amazing.

moo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 09:25 AM

Crystal Breaks Down At Vigil

Cindy Anthony attempts to comfort her.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_VigilThanks for the link and sharing pan.....ALL so sad....I don't know how parents/family members survive..I really don't. As much as I disliked the things CA said..My heart still went out to her and still does. Caylee was raised by her and she has the same feelings and hurt that a mother would have......I do hope and pray Crystal will survive...she has a baby and Jr. to think of but.....she seems to be breaking more and more...I know parents HAVE to go on..but...I don't see how they do. :sad:

Texas48

05-18-2009, 09:32 AM

Do you mean Kim Picazzio? Isn't she already a lawyer, why does she need one?
that is so funny X..cause I asked the very same question..lol..pretty bad when a lawyer..needs..a lawyer. lol......all kidding aside..I am not understanding any of it cause I have not got the entire story yet..Pan said there would be transcripts so I will have to read those. I have a hard time without the hard copies. kwim? we will find out together...maybe today.

panache

05-18-2009, 09:32 AM

Thanks for the link and sharing pan.....ALL so sad....I don't know how parents/family members survive..I really don't. As much as I disliked the things CA said..My heart still went out to her and still does. Caylee was raised by her and she has the same feelings and hurt that a mother would have......I do hope and pray Crystal will survive...she has a baby and Jr. to think of but.....she seems to be breaking more and more...I know parents HAVE to go on..but...I don't see how they do. :sad:

Yes, and Crystal deserves some compassion for what she is dealing with, and most likely facing down the road. Questioning what she's been doing for the past four years, or referring to her as a carrier, is just so wrong and out of line. Cruelity at its finest.

moo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 09:38 AM

On good thing that I saw this week-end, MadameX, was that the video that Ron made received a lot of media time on tv.

To me, this is GREAT news. Seeing her picture on tv every so many minutes was a good thing.......even with many saying the video was B rated or worse..............it did what Ron wanted to do -------I think ----------and that was to remind people to keep calling in tips about Haleigh..............thank those who are working on the case............

And keep her name on the minds and hearts of many.

God bless you Haleigh...............your parents love you and want you to come home.

jmoI have to admit the video Ron made was not the best..He looked nervous and did not know what to say..Many would have been the same way....He should have had help with it and I would think whoever had this idea(which was a great idea) would have helped him more. Anyone can tell he is not a camera type or speaking type of person. I would have been worse than him.....But..with that said....Bam bam said it was running on all local stations over and over...so..that is a GOOD THING. I did see it several times yesterday on HLN and CNN...anything that can get to the media concerning Haleigh is GOOD IMO.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 09:51 AM

I have no clue. Just going on what people were saying. I think some said there should be a transcript coming.
jo
This case has certainly made us ALL THINK..in most cases LE at least as a POI and releases alot of info to the media....not so here. Too many puzzle pieces missing. From the very start..confusing. seems like we have broken every little piece of info into a thousand pieces and still have nothing...only opinions...which is good. but I so wish LE would just give alittle more...just a tid bit would help. PLEASE LE......

panache

05-18-2009, 09:57 AM

Texas48

05-18-2009, 09:58 AM

Blog Talk Radio Wrap Up!

http://www.bloggernews.net/120909TY for link pan...any idea when the transcripts will be released? anyone? TIA

panache

05-18-2009, 10:01 AM

Well, thank you. But what I find amazing is, no one has been named as a POI. Another thing I find amazing is, Haleighs family members not being cleared yet.
jo

No one's been named a *POI*, because Misty and Ron have attempted to thwart the investigation with their * I don't remember and I was at work* mantras. That's what's frustrating LE. The two central figures in this case who seem to not want what the real story is that night be known.

You can throw out all the Crystal, Maire, Johnny stories out there that you want, but the bottom line always comes back to Ron and Misty.

moo

CC I See

05-18-2009, 10:05 AM

No one's been named a *POI*, because Misty and Ron have attempted to thwart the investigation with their * I don't remember and I was at work* mantras. That's what's frustrating LE. The two central figures in this case who seem to not want what the real story is that night be known.

You can throw out all the Crystal, Maire, Johnny stories out there that you want, but the bottom line always comes back to Ron and Misty.

moo

The only people known to have been there the night Haleigh went missing.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 10:10 AM

Yes, and Crystal deserves some compassion for what she is dealing with, and most likely facing down the road. Questioning what she's been doing for the past four years, or referring to her as a carrier, is just so wrong and out of line. Cruelity at its finest.

moo I must have missed something cause you have me really really confused now pan.....sorry if I posted something that set you off so early in the morning...so be it..I will re-read my post but I am pretty sure...oh well..not going to get into with you..just place me on ignore..you'll feel better.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 10:13 AM

It wasn't meant to be cruel. Some just take things that way because they don't like the poster. I know it and others know it. So, take it anyway you want. No bother to me.

You don't mind, along with others, questioning Ron's past, but don't bring Crystals up. I get it.

So, does Crystal ever take any responsibility for anything?? Her kids, her life? Some have posted that with KP's help, Crystal has come a long way. What will happen when KP leaves? I will say this, I wish her the best. But don't think I won't ask questions and put out my opinions. Thats what we are here for. Or so I thought.
jo

Bully, I am on the same page with you.

It takes more than giving birth to make you a good mother. Some
good mothers are those who adopt or are step-parents. All it takes is time and love............putting that baby's need before your own want or need.jmo

When you loose someone............... most start wondering/saying "if only" and "I wish"...............so I think maybe Crystal is wishing that she had _________________________ (fill in the blanks).

Also, I am afraid that like us, she is losing faith that Haleigh will be found and that is indeed stressful.

BTW..........I feel certain that Ron is going through exactly these same thoughts and pain............wondering if he will see his precious child again...........and grieving so much because the pain is beyond description.

I do feel sorry for all those who have lost someone they love and are suffering. My prayer is that Haleigh will be found alive and returned to those who love her.

Saying all of this, I still do see that Ron gave more of himself as far as his children are concerned than did Crystal. That's me.

As usual............this is my very own opinion!

Peaches

05-18-2009, 10:15 AM

The only people known to have been there the night Haleigh went missing.

Well................one thing we do know is that LE said that Ron was at work the night in question.

panache

05-18-2009, 10:23 AM

I must have missed something cause you have me really really confused now pan.....sorry if I posted something that set you off so early in the morning...so be it..I will re-read my post but I am pretty sure...oh well..not going to get into with you..just place me on ignore..you'll feel better.

You need to read back and see what was being posted. No need to take my words out of context and tell me *I'm set off early in the morning*. Address the post and not the poster as CW has said time and time again.

moo

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 10:23 AM

TY for link pan...any idea when the transcripts will be released? anyone? TIA

I can't find any transcripts on his site at all but you can download it and listen to it again.

Clearly Cobra and Kim had it out. He said news of the week is that Kim has had to lawyer up and she's trying to run him out of town. He tries to say some other stuff but they kind of hush him up.

Also Kim had told TJH she was going on Geraldo and she wasn't. I wonder whats up with Kim.

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 10:24 AM

Peaches

05-18-2009, 10:29 AM

Good Morning Everyone.............Tara said last night she saw court papers talking about Ron going to jail for Haleigh missing school. Has anyone else seen these court papers? If so do you have a link?This just can not be true about Ron going to jail because Haleigh missed so much of school.* First of all they had excused/unexcused/tardies all grouped together.* You can not do this!Secondly, it is NOT a law that you attend school before the age of 6 and it is not a law that you MUST attend kindergarten.* Therefore, he can not be sent to jail even if he decided to keep Haleigh home all year and send her the next.jmo

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 10:42 AM

could be. Wonder about the comment on kp wanting cobra out of town?
Jo

drama, drama, drama, drama jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 10:42 AM

Fla. DCYF is not immune from making wrong decisions. I hope they consider Junior's case very carefully.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/yourtown/content/local_news/epaper/2009/04/04/a1a_adoption_0405.html

Of course, they make mistakes. I really think that we ALL make mistakes................I do not know anyone who has not admitted to at least one. LOL:laugh: jmo

CC I See

05-18-2009, 10:42 AM

Well................one thing we do know is that LE said that Ron was at work the night in question.

yes..................that is true.......................... but at ...................... some time, he.................... came home. :huh:

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 10:46 AM

I only listened to a part of the replay of the talk yesterday with Cobra, tJh and art on that bloggerradio site, I couldn't listen to all. I have a question though, after cobra praises Crystal's dad (unnecessarily over the top praising honestly) he stated that Crystal's dad raised Haleigh (or her parents). Now I DON'T understand that at all! How long ago did Ron get Haleigh and Jr? Wasn't the custody issue in 2005 or have I totally missed everything there? And I don't agree with Cobra saying that Ron stole Haleigh from the grandparents, it was his child and they are the grandparents. And I also think if Johnny is as badaxx as Cobra kept going on about, how come he didn't kick the living crap out of Ron when he witnessed the abuse on Crystal and the kids (as I believe was stated in the custody papers).

I'm just really confused about this. So how long has Haleigh been living with Ron? If it was since 2005 then how could Johnny say he raised Haleigh, she would have only been one at that point? And shouldn't it have been Crystal raising her instead of her parents? And NO that isn't Crystal bashing, I'm just commenting on what Cobra was talking about in the beginning of the interview last night. Hopefully I'll be able to listen to the whole thing later today.

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 10:49 AM

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 10:49 AM

If you recall, one of Kim's last interviews she mentioned that she didn't need Cobra any longer, and if he wanted to continue it was on his own dime. (paraphrased). I can't recall which interview it was, but if you google her name, you might find it.

moo

It was inevitable that something would happen. There are too many egos involved. If there is a rift between Cobra and KP, it most likely started over the $800. that CS gave to him to reimburse another person for bills that person paid for the Haleighbug Center. Then Cobra and that person decided to use the money to bail out AB & NN. This is the story as told by Cobra on a video on http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php . Cobra said only 3 people knew about it. I guess he was 1 and he didn't name anyone else. JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 10:51 AM

that is so funny X..cause I asked the very same question..lol..pretty bad when a lawyer..needs..a lawyer. lol......all kidding aside..I am not understanding any of it cause I have not got the entire story yet..Pan said there would be transcripts so I will have to read those. I have a hard time without the hard copies. kwim? we will find out together...maybe today.

Good luck on getting the answer. Cobra didn't give a reason, just left it hanging. More drama that way. JMO

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 10:52 AM

This just can not be true about Ron going to jail because Haleigh missed so much of school.* First of all they had excused/unexcused/tardies all grouped together.* You can not do this!Secondly, it is NOT a law that you attend school before the age of 6 and it is not a law that you MUST attend kindergarten.* Therefore, he can not be sent to jail even if he decided to keep Haleigh home all year and send her the next.jmo

Yeah i was a little shocked when Tara said Crystal didn't know Haleigh missed any school until Ron told her he was going to court and might go to jail because of Haleigh absences. Tara even said Crystal talked about it on NG and i just can't find it. NOT saying Tara's lying,...i'm just saying i might have missed something.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 10:52 AM

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 10:53 AM

I have to admit the video Ron made was not the best..He looked nervous and did not know what to say..Many would have been the same way....He should have had help with it and I would think whoever had this idea(which was a great idea) would have helped him more. Anyone can tell he is not a camera type or speaking type of person. I would have been worse than him.....But..with that said....Bam bam said it was running on all local stations over and over...so..that is a GOOD THING. I did see it several times yesterday on HLN and CNN...anything that can get to the media concerning Haleigh is GOOD IMO.

Next time Ron does a video I'm gonna volunteer to do a dance. That will really give posters something to talk about. (I look alot like GGM Sykes sitting in her recliner!!!) JMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 11:01 AM

Yeah i was a little shocked when Tara said Crystal didn't know Haleigh missed any school until Ron told her he was going to court and might go to jail because of Haleigh absences. Tara even said Crystal talked about it on NG and i just can't find it. NOT saying Tara's lying,...i'm just saying i might have missed something.

Not a link provider but after Haleigh went missing, Crystal got the report from the school.

I know that the absences were all combined...............even the tardies were added into the absences.

If an absence is excused............it is just that - excused.

I looked up Florida and saw that children there are not required to attend school until 6 years old. I think this is a national law.

In order for one to be able to achieve while enrolled in school, I do understand that attendance is needed............saying this, Haleigh has TS and I think school officials would take this into consideration concerning her attendance.

If..............she was behind and do not do well on her test exiting kindergarten, she could have just repeated it.................not a big deal at this age.

In fact, many people keep their children home until they are six years old or choose to send them to a preschool for l/2 days for reasons of their own.

BY law............children are allowed to miss so many days. Maybe each state is different on this.

amoo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 11:01 AM

You need to read back and see what was being posted. No need to take my words out of context and tell me *I'm set off early in the morning*. Address the post and not the poster as CW has said time and time again.

moo

Originally Posted by Texas48
Thanks for the link and sharing pan.....ALL so sad....I don't know how parents/family members survive..I really don't. As much as I disliked the things CA said..My heart still went out to her and still does. Caylee was raised by her and she has the same feelings and hurt that a mother would have......I do hope and pray Crystal will survive...she has a baby and Jr. to think of but.....she seems to be breaking more and more...I know parents HAVE to go on..but...I don't see how they do.
Posted by panache ..Post #38
Yes, and Crystal deserves some compassion for what she is dealing with, and most likely facing down the road. Questioning what she's been doing for the past four years, or referring to her as a carrier, is just so wrong and out of line. Cruelity at its finest.

moo.........**panache*** what did I say in my post (above) to deserve the response from you that I received...? Please respond..you have me confused.

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 11:02 AM

LOL..............we have been saying this forever. This man was NOT afraid of Ron. IF he saw his grandchild being abused, he would have made dog meat out of him.moo

Ron got his kids in 2005 when Ron, Jr. was about 6 months old.....and Haleigh about 18 months.............jmo It is all in the court papers in the links.

Crystal was living with her mother when Ron asked her for them. It seemed to me that Crystal was willing to allow Ron to take care of the children. That's me!

All jmoo

That is what I thought Peaches! So her parents didn't raise Haleigh, they may have started but it takes more than that to raise a child. And look nothing against Crystal at all, but some mothers don't have a problem with the father raising the kids if they feel they cannot do it. it happens all the times when fathers allow the mothers to have custody and they are not considered less of a father for that (I mean the fathers that pay support and are in the kids lives even if on weekends). So she didn't fight for custody as hard as some think she should have, she had her reasons and although I don't agree with it, it must have worked for her. And before anyone says, oh Ron manipulated things to get custody, there are mothers that do that all the time to get custody of the kids and nothing is said. I just think Crystal saw this as a way to get her life in order or try to without having to worry about providing for the kids or whatever. It really doesn't matter, cause it's been four years since that and apparantly it was working out for her since I haven't heard that she tried again for custody once she got things in order and got a home of her own. These are just some thoughts running through my head, moo...

Peaches

05-18-2009, 11:06 AM

Next time Ron does a video I'm gonna volunteer to do a dance. That will really give posters something to talk about. (I look alot like GGM Sykes sitting in her recliner!!!) JMO

I will join you and we will be a site............2 left feet as well as 2 right feet..............they all get in the way!

At least, we will be remember and that will make Haleigh on everyone's mind. LOL

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 11:16 AM

CANDYKISSES

05-18-2009, 11:24 AM

If you recall, one of Kim's last interviews she mentioned that she didn't need Cobra any longer, and if he wanted to continue it was on his own dime. (paraphrased). I can't recall which interview it was, but if you google her name, you might find it.

moo

WOW, I thought he was enlisted to help find HALEIGH CUMMINGS. Does this mean Kim has now found HALEIGH ON HER OWN?

AMAZING. JMO. :w00t:

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 11:26 AM

I thought I had heard KP say she had attorney(s) working to establish the HBC as non profit. If you listen to this video AUDIO: KIM PICAZIO at this link
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/401463.php, KP says she has some "volunteer" attys. No wonder Cobra wouldn't explain why she had gotten an attorney. That would take away from the drama. Cobra's true color is really beginning to show.

JMO

calamitygirl

05-18-2009, 11:32 AM

I know, bully, and to me at least it seemd so clear cut in the beginning. I went back and forth and back and forth so many times during the past three months, I got dizzy. So I just decided to wait, wait and see what happens, what is found, and in the meantime be as supportive as I could be of all the family members involved in this sad case. They are, after all, missing a child, a grandchild, a sister, a step daughter.

Morning all. Very nice post madameX. Just stopping in to see if there was any new news concerning HaleighCummings. I have heard nothing on the news. So sorry for Haleigh and her family. Will try to check in later. Have a nice day everyone.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 11:33 AM

I know, bully, and to me at least it seemd so clear cut in the beginning. I went back and forth and back and forth so many times during the past three months, I got dizzy. So I just decided to wait, wait and see what happens, what is found, and in the meantime be as supportive as I could be of all the family members involved in this sad case. They are, after all, missing a child, a grandchild, a sister, a step daughter.I believe you as many have had the same *back and forth*.....I too have gotten dizzy with my own thoughts..lol..I still have my opinions and many what if's.....but I think thats pretty normal....maybe it is easier for those that have one theory and stick to it....kwim? and..who knows..they may be right.....then again...they may not be right. Time will tell as I do not believe this case will go *unsolved* but that just MO.

Texas48

05-18-2009, 11:37 AM

Good Morning Everyone.............

Tara said last night she saw court papers talking about Ron going to jail for Haleigh missing school. Has anyone else seen these court papers? If so do you have a link?Good morning FA.....I have missed so much but have not heard anything about Ron going to jail.......I'm sure someone here can help...

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 11:44 AM

I believe you as many have had the same *back and forth*.....I too have gotten dizzy with my own thoughts..lol..I still have my opinions and many what if's.....but I think thats pretty normal....maybe it is easier for those that have one theory and stick to it....kwim? and..who knows..they may be right.....then again...they may not be right. Time will tell as I do not believe this case will go *unsolved* but that just MO.

I can't decide what I think on this mystery either. At least when it is solved, we will have something to talk about. The posters that are so adamant about what has happened will only be able to say they were right if it turns out the way they thought. If not they will probably be too embarassed to say anything as I think some of them will NEVER admit they were wrong. JMO

Texas48

05-18-2009, 11:45 AM

Morning all. Very nice post madameX. Just stopping in to see if there was any new news concerning HaleighCummings. I have heard nothing on the news. So sorry for Haleigh and her family. Will try to check in later. Have a nice day everyone.
ok..Hi and Bye Girl................we are looking for dancers..know anyone? lol..No new news about Haleigh..just more questions on my part..

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 11:47 AM

I can't decide what I think on this mystery either. At least when it is solved, we will have something to talk about. The posters that are so adamant about what has happened will only be able to say they were right if it turns out the way they thought. If not they will probably be too embarassed to say anything as I think some of them will NEVER admit they were wrong. JMO

ITA!!! I just don't know with this case and I'm not ready to throw anyone under the bus yet. Maybe for their actions since she has been gone, but these are not "normal" people so I can't know if their actions are normal to them or not. But I know if it is shown Ron had absolutely nothing to do with it or even Misty, there are some that will still say it was his fault completely. What I cannot understand is the hatred I see sometimes about a man they don't know personally, judging him by the cover and the reviews instead of waiting it out and seeing if their hatred is even remotely justified.

dustyk

05-18-2009, 12:02 PM

That is what I thought Peaches! So her parents didn't raise Haleigh, they may have started but it takes more than that to raise a child. And look nothing against Crystal at all, but some mothers don't have a problem with the father raising the kids if they feel they cannot do it. it happens all the times when fathers allow the mothers to have custody and they are not considered less of a father for that (I mean the fathers that pay support and are in the kids lives even if on weekends). So she didn't fight for custody as hard as some think she should have, she had her reasons and although I don't agree with it, it must have worked for her. And before anyone says, oh Ron manipulated things to get custody, there are mothers that do that all the time to get custody of the kids and nothing is said. I just think Crystal saw this as a way to get her life in order or try to without having to worry about providing for the kids or whatever. It really doesn't matter, cause it's been four years since that and apparantly it was working out for her since I haven't heard that she tried again for custody once she got things in order and got a home of her own. These are just some thoughts running through my head, moo...
i can see you never experienced what obviously went on. It is a fact that Crystal and Ron were together at 14 and 16 years of age. Crystal had the children at 17 and 19 I believe. In her words he was verbally and physically abusive, listening to the way he spoke of Misty to LE I can believe her. She had enough of it and went back to her mothers. She also took the children with her. She also states she wanted to go to work but Ronald didn't want anyone babysitting the children while she worked. Without custody papers in hand he could take them whenever he wanted to, so working is out of the question since you never know when he will take them(been there) Then he gets her to let him take them to Mexico and he files for custody and the rest is history. Dealing with this type of situation is hard and even harder on the children. I think what she did was all she thought she could do. So he won custody, moved out of his mother's house, had a child with AMber then moved on to Misty. All of that being said it was always pay back for her leaving him and him having control. But I don't think any of this had anything to do with her being missing. I don't think he hurt Haleigh either. I do think he knows where she is and this is all for money. IMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:23 PM

lol..with all you guys..lol.....what a site to see....every channel would run it for years....................as for me..I will stay in the background and give you support..most likely from the floor laughing my butt off..(I wish)..sorry CW..just alittle O/T.......

Helping Ron with his video is something we want/need to do. MadameX, yes............you help......bless his heart, he looks scared to death. But..........even with this, the message was picked up and many heard his cry for help. Way to go Ron!

Now............it is going to be a sight with the dancing gang.....and people rolling on the floor with laughter. Anything to get the attention of the media for our Haleigh!

Another brown-eyed girl.........who used this as their signature line for Laci?

jmo

dustyk

05-18-2009, 12:34 PM

I had forgotten about JS raising Haleigh. Yes, I believe the same as you.
I thought Haleigh was always raised by RC or CS or both.
The witnessing by JS of one of his grandbabies being abused has bothered me since I first heard about it. Didn't believe it then, and don't believe it now.
jo
Why would he lie....Do you think everyone lies but Ronald? JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 12:40 PM

Did anyone get the point of why GGM was even in the video?

My guess would be to embarass the family. Course there were some posters that really got a kick out of that video. JMO

diamond

05-18-2009, 12:42 PM

My guess would be to embarass the family. Course there were some posters that really got a kick out of that video. JMO

How would that picture do that?

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 12:43 PM

i can see you never experienced what obviously went on. It is a fact that Crystal and Ron were together at 14 and 16 years of age. Crystal had the children at 17 and 19 I believe. In her words he was verbally and physically abusive, listening to the way he spoke of Misty to LE I can believe her. She had enough of it and went back to her mothers. She also took the children with her. She also states she wanted to go to work but Ronald didn't want anyone babysitting the children while she worked. Without custody papers in hand he could take them whenever he wanted to, so working is out of the question since you never know when he will take them(been there) Then he gets her to let him take them to Mexico and he files for custody and the rest is history. Dealing with this type of situation is hard and even harder on the children. I think what she did was all she thought she could do. So he won custody, moved out of his mother's house, had a child with AMber then moved on to Misty. All of that being said it was always pay back for her leaving him and him having control. But I don't think any of this had anything to do with her being missing. I don't think he hurt Haleigh either. I do think he knows where she is and this is all for money. IMO

No I have never experienced exactly what CS has and I don't think any of us has. That is why I don't think anyone here can say he manipulated and took the kids from her and it being as easy as that. It isn't hard to believe that maybe she felt it was right for her then to get her life in order or do whatever. As I said, I'm not bashing Crystal for her choices, she obviously did what she felt she had to do. But I have been with an abusive man both mentally and physically, was for ten years, and I know the emotional is the hardest and can beat you down. I'm not saying he wasn't emotionally abusive (but I can't say he was just by what he said to Misty during the 911, she got off easy if that would have been me) and maybe on some level it was payback to Crystal, but that doesn't convince me he didn't want the kids or didn't love them. And I know that this doesn't have anything to do with Haleigh's being missing either nor do I think Crystal did either, I was just stating some things I've been thinking. And honestly when I do get these thoughts it is in the morning for me but this board has already gone beyond discussion and to all out battle on who can yell the loudest that Ron is evil and how much joy it will bring to see him in handcuffs no matter what (and I'm not saying you say that, I haven't seen you say anything like that, just posting some of my own observations one some days of this threat towards the end).

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 12:44 PM

How would that picture do that?

As I said earlier, I look a lot like GGM Sykes. If someone had posted a picture of me taken in the privacy of my home, I would not like it. JMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:46 PM

i can see you never experienced what obviously went on. It is a fact that Crystal and Ron were together at 14 and 16 years of age. Crystal had the children at 17 and 19 I believe. In her words he was verbally and physically abusive, listening to the way he spoke of Misty to LE I can believe her. She had enough of it and went back to her mothers. She also took the children with her. She also states she wanted to go to work but Ronald didn't want anyone babysitting the children while she worked. Without custody papers in hand he could take them whenever he wanted to, so working is out of the question since you never know when he will take them(been there) Then he gets her to let him take them to Mexico and he files for custody and the rest is history. Dealing with this type of situation is hard and even harder on the children. I think what she did was all she thought she could do. So he won custody, moved out of his mother's house, had a child with AMber then moved on to Misty. All of that being said it was always pay back for her leaving him and him having control. But I don't think any of this had anything to do with her being missing. I don't think he hurt Haleigh either. I do think he knows where she is and this is all for money. IMO

I hear what you are saying.

But, everyone must accept that they..............and ONLY them made the decisions that they, themself made.

You can not go through life putting the blame of all your mistakes on someone else's shoulders.

Why would anyone allow even their young children to say.........so and so made me do it? Why? This teaches nothing. And never say...........everyone is doing it...............this is no excuse, if it is wrong it is wrong I do not care who else is doing whatever the issue might me. moo

UNTIL...............Crystal is allowed to accept that she is the one responsible for her very own choices, she will not move forward. JMOO

This is about finding Haleigh and I hope that today will be the day someone tells us something! jmoo

It would certainly be a red letter dayl, if Haleigh came home today.moo

diamond

05-18-2009, 12:46 PM

As I said earlier, I look a lot like GGM Sykes. If someone had posted a picture of me taken in the privacy of my home, I would not like it. JMO

There is nothing wrong with GGM looks. I don't know who created the video but the picture had to have been taken by someone in the family.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:47 PM

IMO hatred is never justified when you don't personally know the person, KWIM?

:thumbsup:

If we live by what we say we do...................hatred is never justified period. Love your enemy and all...............

jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:50 PM

My guess would be to embarass the family. Course there were some posters that really got a kick out of that video. JMO

You are so correct about this, no answer.

If it takes this to make some look good.............this is truly sad.

BTW..........we never know what is in store for us in this life.........we do not know what our children or grandchildren will do..............

Some people may have all the outside beauty.............others have the inside kind...............and some have both. We are all different. jmoo

Bless you ggm. I would never make fun of you.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:52 PM

There is nothing wrong with GGM looks. I don't know who created the video but the picture had to have been taken by someone in the family.

And................choosing the worst pictures ever made of these family members is what someone has done. moo

Kinda like that yearbook editor/sponsor allowing a picture of that poor girls with her "cookie" showing.

So SAD!

moo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 12:54 PM

The hatred is unbelieveable as you say. And without a bit of proof. Time will tell, someone will be right, someone will be wrong. I personally don't care either way. I just want the person/persons who took Haleigh to pay. Dearly.
jo

:thumbsup: ITA!

You know what, bullyjo..................moo is that most posting here agree with you.

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 01:11 PM

Oh I also want to comment about Ron apparantly stopping for smokes on his way home. i believe I understood with the interview he left work at 2.30am and arrived home around 3. I think it is pretty obvious that since Cobra knows about this and the convience store video that LE already knew about this also. And since it wasn't stated or made an issue of they are satisfied with his part of the time frame. And it makes more sense to me, that he would come home and search for his daughter before calling 911 and not just walking right in the door and calling.

What has LE made an issue of?

You're probably right about him searching before calling BUT that's not how they have reported it ...

I did decide after a couple of weeks ago with the happy-ending Missouri case that if either of my grandsons went missing, I'll call 911 immediately and tell them but let them know we are still looking and will keep them informed.

dustyk

05-18-2009, 01:13 PM

My bold

Be careful injecting your life into Haleighs. Some don't agree with it. Even tho I believe that is where our thoughts and opinions about life come into play. Whether its our life history or a family members or a friends.

But moving on. Do you know RC or CS personally? Not being snarky, but thats how I read your post. If you don't, then what I seem to be reading in your post is only CS's side.
jmo
No Bully I don't know either...just have seen so many cases like this and it is almost scripted. Sadly the children always pay. Without proof the abuse continues sexually, physically or emotionally, usually they have more hell to pay because they got away with it. Another form of abuse is when the children do love both parents and they are caught in the middle. JMO

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 01:20 PM

What has LE made an issue of?

You're probably right about him searching before calling BUT that's not how they have reported it ...

I did decide after a couple of weeks ago with the happy-ending Missouri case that if either of my grandsons went missing, I'll call 911 immediately and tell them but let them know we are still looking and will keep them informed.

Apparantly LE has made an issue of nothing honestly, not even Misty's inconsistencies except here and there.

The reporting on this is bizarre, they only state that when he got home from work, they haven't reported what he did between the time he got off and on his way home. But I cannot imagine they don't know, especially if there is video footage and I believe everyone in the states knows that these convience stores have video cameras running round the clock.

I am with you, if any of my child went missing 911 would be called first and I'd be looking no matter what.

diamond

05-18-2009, 01:23 PM

Apparantly LE has made an issue of nothing honestly, not even Misty's inconsistencies except here and there.

The reporting on this is bizarre, they only state that when he got home from work, they haven't reported what he did between the time he got off and on his way home. But I cannot imagine they don't know, especially if there is video footage and I believe everyone in the states knows that these convience stores have video cameras running round the clock.

I am with you, if any of my child went missing 911 would be called first and I'd be looking no matter what.

Ron has 25 mins of unaccounted time from 2:30-3:00 AM according to store video that shows him buying cigarettes at 2:30AM

Ron and Misty have about 25 mins. of unexplained delay in calling 911. They both need to explain why they later changed their story to: Ron arrived home at 3:20 AM

If they are going to stick to the story that Ron got home at 3:20 or 3:27AM then Ron has almost an hour of time unaccounted for so what was he doing during this time frame.

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 01:29 PM

Ron has 25 mins of unaccounted time from 2:30-3:00 AM according to store video that shows him buying cigarettes at 2:30AM

Ron and Misty have about 25 mins. of unexplained delay in calling 911. They both need to explain why they later changed their story to: Ron arrived home at 3:20 am.

And if Cobra knows about that and we know about that, don't you think LE knows this also? And since no security camera is there in front of their home, we can only go by what LE has said with his time home. We can't assume that only Cobra's time frame is correct on when Ron arrived home since no one has stepped forward to say that yes they saw him come home at 3am. I can't believe that LE would be that stupid not to have already questioned him about the video as that is something that would have come earlier in the investigation but we are just hearing about it now from Cobra. He isn't the news and he isn't LE, so we can't take everything he says as fact.

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 01:31 PM

There is nothing wrong with GGM looks. I don't know who created the video but the picture had to have been taken by someone in the family.

The link to this mean-spirited video was introduced to this board on Sat. 5/17 in post #60. The same poster went on, in post#86, to point out that the pic of GGM was "unflattering". :thumbdown:

diamond

05-18-2009, 01:32 PM

And if Cobra knows about that and we know about that, don't you think LE knows this also? And since no security camera is there in front of their home, we can only go by what LE has said with his time home. We can't assume that only Cobra's time frame is correct on when Ron arrived home since no one has stepped forward to say that yes they saw him come home at 3am. I can't believe that LE would be that stupid not to have already questioned him about the video as that is something that would have come earlier in the investigation but we are just hearing about it now from Cobra. He isn't the news and he isn't LE, so we can't take everything he says as fact.

I agree with you Carly, that Cobra is not news or LE. On the other hand LE is not sharing their information. If the time Cobra reported is correct then LE knows about it.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 01:41 PM

The link to this mean-spirited video was introduced to this board on Sat. 5/17 in post #60. The same poster went on, in post#86, to point out that the pic of GGM was "unflattering". :thumbdown:

I think that was Sun. 5/17. There were more posts later in the night laughing about it and saying it was so good they were going to post it everyday. JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 01:43 PM

Guess some of us better start burning some of our pix. I still say she looked comfy and the house looked nice.
jo

I am a person that does not like pictures of myself. Even when I was in school, I would hide until the photographer was thru taking school pictures. As I said GGM looked like me and I agree I am comfortable when I am in my recliner. JMO

diamond

05-18-2009, 01:44 PM

I think that was Sun. 5/17. There were more posts later in the night laughing about it and saying it was so good they were going to post it everyday. JMO

To be specific Jacki told Viking to post it everyday. The song on the video is really good. The pictures are, too.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 01:45 PM

Isn't that the video where the picture of Ron, some said looked like a mug shot? If its the same, then its also the one where I said he is not a bad looking kid.
jo

I think so. I only looked at it once. JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 01:50 PM

To be specific Jacki told Viking to post it everyday. The song on the video is really good. The pictures are, too.

I didn't listen to the music. One can laugh with someone and one can laugh at someone. I got the impression that some posters were laughing at them. JMO

diamond

05-18-2009, 01:54 PM

I didn't listen to the music. One can laugh with someone and one can laugh at someone. I got the impression that some posters were laughing at them. JMO

You have to listen to the song in the video to understand it.

dustyk

05-18-2009, 02:01 PM

The children pay even in families that seem to have it all. Thats because we never know what really goes on behind closed doors. Then that saying comes into play. Theres your side, my side, and the truth.
I have no proof if any kind of abuse happened here. None of us were there. I walked in my sons and his girlfriends place one time. I lived two doors away. I heard the yelling. She was on the floor. I tore into my kid. Only to later find out from the girlfriend, she hit him. He pushed her away. She landed on her butt. And that was what I saw when I walked in. So no matter what, will we ever really know what went on between the two of them?
jo
hopefully you didn't have grandchildren to witness that, the adults can take care of themselves it is the little children I have a problem with witnessing this. IMO

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 02:11 PM

I didn't listen to the music. One can laugh with someone and one can laugh at someone. I got the impression that some posters were laughing at them. JMO

I agree. And I think GGM looked fine. The song is the biggest part of it's mean-spiritedness. But I'm not at all surprised that it was posted here, or that some really got a kick out of it at the Cummings family's expense. These are completely innocent family members who do not deserve the public scrutiny and shame. Makes me sick, IMO.

carlybarly

05-18-2009, 02:16 PM

I didn't watch the video, after reading the laughing about it I decided I didn't want to. I find no reason to poke fun at them or laugh at them. The way the link was posted and the comments with it, it was meant imo to be an insult to this family and gave many great pleasure. And jacki did say to post it everyday but sarcastically not as in SHE wanted to see it everyday from what I could gather of her posts.

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 02:20 PM

Amazing, just amazing.

moo

What's amazing is that some will "tsk, tsk, shame on you" about the mildest of criticism of Crystal, yet bash the living bleep out of others who are equally as IUPG, IMO.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 02:25 PM

Peaches

05-18-2009, 02:28 PM

What's amazing is that some will "tsk, tsk, shame on you" about the mildest of criticism of Crystal, yet bash the living bleep out of others who are equally as IUPG, IMO.

I have not seen anyone make fun of Crystal.

Some have questions about choices she has made, but to poke fun just to poke fun, NO, I have not seen this done.

There is NO reason to do this. Hurting people just because you CAN is not nice at all.

Hopefully, we will get back to what we should be doing...............talking about Haleigh.

moo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 02:31 PM

Some people enjoy hating. Makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. Pitiful.. IMO:closedeyes:

bam bam............all the ranting about Ron and his video is sick.

He looks scared to death and I can understand. He is most likely stressed and his life is living with fear for his child. What a shame that the only thing some can do is find fault with everything he does.

Hopefully, we will hear good news soon........Haleigh is found alive. What a red letter day that would be!

Prayers for Haleigh and all those who love her.

diamond

05-18-2009, 02:35 PM

Can you tell us the name of the song??

I don't know the name of the song or the band. That is the first time I have heard of that song.

diamond

05-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Yes, carly, and another poster responded "I like it so much I think I will take Jacki's advice and "post it a few times daily". (May 17, post #518)

I like this one so much, I think I'll post it a few times daily.

#311 05-17-2009, 08:04 PM
Coldwater
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Correcting error

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If you can't confirm, then it's only a rumor which we do NOT find acceptable on these forums.

my bold.

You are confused, Lizziegirl. The video is not a rumor. It actually does exist.

diamond

05-18-2009, 02:52 PM

My grandson was only a few weeks old. I took him out of there to my apt.
jo

Now that is bad to push her down when she had given birth two weeks prior. Sad. Very sad. She could have been hurt badly.

Mimi428

05-18-2009, 02:53 PM

All these "media" seekers ............... I do not trust any of them.

Can you expand on who you believe the "media seekers" are? Is it limited to Cobra & KP? If not, who else do you believe has interjected themselves into the story as a "media seeker".

But focusing only on Cobra for a minute. Is he someone you do not trust? If so, can you explain why you don't trust him, what you think he may do that would somehow prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered?

TIA

This is not only directed at you, if anyone else believes Cobra or KP or whoever is not to be trusted, I would be interested in hearing why you don't trust them, but most importantly - HOW you believe they could prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered.

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 02:54 PM

I have not seen anyone make fun of Crystal.

Some have questions about choices she has made, but to poke fun just to poke fun, NO, I have not seen this done.

There is NO reason to do this. Hurting people just because you CAN is not nice at all.

Hopefully, we will get back to what we should be doing...............talking about Haleigh.

moo

This post of mine was in response to panache's post regarding someone asking what Crystal has done for her 2 children in the last 4 years. Nothing about making fun of Crystal, thank goodness.

diamond

05-18-2009, 02:57 PM

Can you expand on who you believe the "media seekers" are? Is it limited to Cobra & KP? If not, who else do you believe has interjected themselves into the story as a "media seeker".

But focusing only on Cobra for a minute. Is he someone you do not trust? If so, can you explain why you don't trust him, what you think he may do that would somehow prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered?

TIA

This is not only directed at you, if anyone else believes Cobra or KP or whoever is not to be trusted, I would be interested in hearing why you don't trust them, but most importantly - HOW you believe they could prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered.

What they do is pick and choose what they want to believe that Cobra said. If it is something negative toward Crystal or KP, they run with it as the gospel truth. If it is something negative toward Ron they dispute it and consider Cobra a media hound. It is a prime example of double standard.

Mimi428

05-18-2009, 02:59 PM

He looks scared to death and I can understand. He is most likely stressed and his life is living with fear for his child.

<snipped>

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why he (or anyone) would be 'scared to death' of appearing on video.

Coming home & finding out my child had disappeared - yes, THAT would scare me half to death.

Filming a 1-minute or less video appeal 3 months afterwards (or at anytime afterwards) - no, that would not scare me. I think once the reality hit me that it wasn't a dream from which I would awaken, I would work on gutting up to do pretty much anything under the sun, if I thought it had a snowball's chance in h#ll of helping to recover my child.

JMO

dustyk

05-18-2009, 02:59 PM

This post of mine was in response to panache's post regarding someone asking what Crystal has done for her 2 children in the last 4 years. Nothing about making fun of Crystal, thank goodness.
Doubt seriously that Crystal cares what is being said about her on message boards...I am sure she heard worse when she was living with her x. IMO

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 03:05 PM

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 03:09 PM

It was reported on blog talk radio last night. The link and conversation about it are on last night's thread.

Actually, the 2:30 was reported quite awhile ago and then conveniently, probably a couple of weeks later that he stopped off for milk etc on his way home, and made to sound like after 3 o'clock.

I don't have the sources but do have a good memory of it because once again it was as if someone needed time to figure out the story.

dustyk

05-18-2009, 03:10 PM

Now that is bad to push her down when she had given birth two weeks prior. Sad. Very sad. She could have been hurt badly.
Now I am beginning to understand the sympathy for Ronald. JMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:12 PM

You are confused, Lizziegirl. The video is not a rumor. It actually does exist.

It is a video made by someone wanting to poke fun at the Cummings.

Sad................that many find this funny.................

These are people who love Haleigh and who Haleigh loves in turn.

jmo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 03:14 PM

As I said earlier, I look a lot like GGM Sykes. If someone had posted a picture of me taken in the privacy of my home, I would not like it. JMO
I would not appreciate it either noanswer.....I would hate for anyone to see me...at home..comfortable and relaxed..kwim?

dustyk

05-18-2009, 03:15 PM

I would not appreciate it either noanswer.....I would hate for anyone to see me...at home..comfortable and relaxed..kwim?
wonder where they got the pictures JMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:15 PM

It was reported on blog talk radio last night. The link and conversation about it are on last night's thread.

Since the tape has not been released and it was not reported by LE, it is just rumor.............

diamond

05-18-2009, 03:18 PM

Since the tape has not been released and it was not reported by LE, it is just rumor.............

The blog talk radio conversation is public. There are numerous conversations here about it. It is not rumor.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:21 PM

The blog talk radio conversation is public. There are numerous conversations here about it. It is not rumor.

That's true, it was said on blog talk radio and there have been posts about it. But if a person anywhere states something as fact and that person does not have anything to support the fact, then I would consider that person starting a rumor. When posters post about it, they are posting a rumor they heard on blog talk radio. JMO

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:21 PM

What they do is pick and choose what they want to believe that Cobra said. If it is something negative toward Crystal or KP, they run with it as the gospel truth. If it is something negative toward Ron they dispute it and consider Cobra a media hound. It is a prime example of double standard.

Not me, diamond, I do not believe he would know the truth if it hit him in the face.................his choice of words tells me he needs to learn the English language so that he can speak using words suitable for all to hear.

He is crude/rude...........and I have no use for him atall.

jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:23 PM

<snipped>

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why he (or anyone) would be 'scared to death' of appearing on video.

Coming home & finding out my child had disappeared - yes, THAT would scare me half to death.

Filming a 1-minute or less video appeal 3 months afterwards (or at anytime afterwards) - no, that would not scare me. I think once the reality hit me that it wasn't a dream from which I would awaken, I would work on gutting up to do pretty much anything under the sun, if I thought it had a snowball's chance in h#ll of helping to recover my child.

JMO

If you had not snipped my post..............that is exactly what I said..........he was scared because his child was missing.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:24 PM

Doubt seriously that Crystal cares what is being said about her on message boards...I am sure she heard worse when she was living with her x. IMO

She does care..............she said as much in an interview.............she said..............they do not know me/etc.............so yes, imoo she does care what is written about her.

jmo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:25 PM

Now I am beginning to understand the sympathy for Ronald. JMO

Sorry.............this is getting very personal and CW said not to do this.moo

Peaches

05-18-2009, 03:27 PM

My post did not say it didn't. I just happen to like the post from CW.

Lizziegirl.............thanks for reminding us!

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 03:28 PM

Can you expand on who you believe the "media seekers" are? Is it limited to Cobra & KP? If not, who else do you believe has interjected themselves into the story as a "media seeker".

But focusing only on Cobra for a minute. Is he someone you do not trust? If so, can you explain why you don't trust him, what you think he may do that would somehow prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered?

TIA

This is not only directed at you, if anyone else believes Cobra or KP or whoever is not to be trusted, I would be interested in hearing why you don't trust them, but most importantly - HOW you believe they could prevent the person who took Haleigh from being discovered.

I take what I hear from Cobra and compare it with other stuff.

After yesterday though, I'm about to change my opinion. Yesterday's "talk" somewhat changed my opinion. I'm almost sure that RC had no direct connection with what happened to his daughter. However, there was something else going on that day and RC was connected, and that probably is very much connected. It's about what he did during the day before work, what hours he actually worked, and afterwards until 911 was called.

GGM said she got to the house 10-15 minutes after it happened which is interesting since I still don't know what time she was taken.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:28 PM

She does care..............she said as much in an interview.............she said..............they do not know me/etc.............so yes, imoo she does care what is written about her.

jmo

I think all the people connected to Haleigh would be hurt if they read what is being posted about them. If they are innocent and greiving her disappearance, all these comments are like rubbing salt in a wound. There will be plenty of time to run them down when/if we find out what happened to Haleigh. JMO

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 03:29 PM

It is a video made by someone wanting to poke fun at the Cummings.

Sad................that many find this funny.................

These are people who love Haleigh and who Haleigh loves in turn.

jmo

poke fun?

Suggesting they tell the truth is poking fun at someone.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:30 PM

I take what I hear from Cobra and compare it with other stuff.

After yesterday though, I'm about to change my opinion. Yesterday's "talk" somewhat changed my opinion. I'm almost sure that RC had no direct connection with what happened to his daughter. However, there was something else going on that day and RC was connected, and that probably is very much connected. It's about what he did during the day before work, what hours he actually worked, and afterwards until 911 was called.

GGM said she got to the house 10-15 minutes after it happened which is interesting since I still don't know what time she was taken.

I thought she was talking from the time she was called, not from the time Haleigh disappeared. I don't think even LE is sure about what time Haleigh disappeared. JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:38 PM

Mimi428

05-18-2009, 03:40 PM

If you had not snipped my post..............that is exactly what I said..........he was scared because his child was missing.

I know that is what you posted, but you did not indicate that you believed he has had that same look since the moment he found out Haleigh was missing.

Now if you actually DO believe he has had that scared to death look from the moment Haleigh disappeared, then that would make sense for him to still have that scared to death look while he was making the appeal on video. I got the impression from your post that being in front of the video camera had something to do with the expressions on his face.

Speaking only for myself, I have seen other looks on Ron's face since we first heard about this story than the scared to death look. He didn't look scared to death when he was seen leaving the courthouse with Misty, for example. Or when he was down on one knee proposing to Misty. Or at his wedding.

When I take into consideration the other times we have seen him - after the disappearance & before the video appeal, I just cannot figure out how it is that you could really believe:

"He looks scared to death and I can understand. He is most likely stressed and his life is living with fear for his child."

Doesn't make sense unless he had been consistently showing that same look.

JMO

dustyk

05-18-2009, 03:44 PM

Sorry.............this is getting very personal and CW said not to do this.moo
How was that getting personal?

E-U-R

05-18-2009, 03:46 PM

Crystal Breaks Down At Vigil

Cindy Anthony attempts to comfort her.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

It's good that this got haleigh back in the media and I am glad that Marie and crystal find comfort in the anthony's help... i for one wish that they didn't have to ride the coat tails of the anthony's who in my opinion i would not want to be associated with as i happen to think they are the most counter productive family around... they are professional spin doctors that live in denial and i hope the sheffields only associate with them for the reason of extra media for haleigh... i for one think that the anthony's are the worst spokesmodels possible for missing children in my opinion it wa their own enabling and denial that led up to it taking so long for them to find caylee in the first place
in my opinion caylee was never missing and if the anthony's want to contribute any help to anyone it should not be missing children as i think that their help only undermines whatever foundation they would be working with

diamond

05-18-2009, 03:51 PM

It's good that this got haleigh back in the media and I am glad that Marie and crystal find comfort in the anthony's help... i for one wish that they didn't have to ride the coat tails of the anthony's who in my opinion i would not want to be associated with as i happen to think they are the most counter productive family around... they are professional spin doctors that live in denial and i hope the sheffields only associate with them for the reason of extra media for haleigh... i for one think that the anthony's are the worst spokesmodels possible for missing children in my opinion it wa their own enabling and denial that led up to it taking so long for them to find caylee in the first place
in my opinion caylee was never missing and if the anthony's want to contribute any help to anyone it should not be missing children as i think that their help only undermines whatever foundation they would be working with

I don't think the family are that closely associated with the Anthony's. They were just all there at the same time. I do think the Anthony's are sincere in their compassion for Haleigh's family.

It doesn't look like there were that many people there.

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 03:52 PM

bam bam............all the ranting about Ron and his video is sick.

He looks scared to death and I can understand. He is most likely stressed and his life is living with fear for his child. What a shame that the only thing some can do is find fault with everything he does.

Hopefully, we will hear good news soon........Haleigh is found alive. What a red letter day that would be!

Prayers for Haleigh and all those who love her.

ITA. I understand exactly what you mean, Peaches. I also think he must have been very nervous thinking that the video would be widely viewed, and knowing it would be viewed by haters. I've never been in a video myself, but I know I'd be nervous as all heck.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:53 PM

It's good that this got haleigh back in the media and I am glad that Marie and crystal find comfort in the anthony's help... i for one wish that they didn't have to ride the coat tails of the anthony's who in my opinion i would not want to be associated with as i happen to think they are the most counter productive family around... they are professional spin doctors that live in denial and i hope the sheffields only associate with them for the reason of extra media for haleigh... i for one think that the anthony's are the worst spokesmodels possible for missing children in my opinion it wa their own enabling and denial that led up to it taking so long for them to find caylee in the first place
in my opinion caylee was never missing and if the anthony's want to contribute any help to anyone it should not be missing children as i think that their help only undermines whatever foundation they would be working with

It is a shame that the coverage of Haleigh has pratically become non existant. The A's have kept Caylee in the news, but I don't think they helped to find her nor or they helping their daughter. I think part of the reason that Haleigh is not covered as much is because because when certain players came on board, it became a custody case, not a missing person. I just wish the custody hearing had been put aside until Haliegh's disappearance was solved. I know some will say it had to be done in order to protect JR, but he is still with Ron. That leads me to believe the powers to be do not think he is in danger. JMO

Mimi428

05-18-2009, 03:55 PM

Just of the top of my head, listening to the radio interview with TJH, when Cobra repeatedly stated "JS is an American hero", made me go HUH? That's just one example of the things Cobra says that make me skeptical about him.

If it is skepticism, I can understand it. Personally, I view every single statement from every single person with some degree of skepticism. And that includes LE, because they have a very high obligation to keep. They are not only obligated to investigate, but any arrest has to have a reasonable hope of being sucessfully prosecuted. Their hands are tied in so many ways, simply because of that. They also work very strategically & pick & choose what elements to speak about. They can slant the reporting in any way they believe will help them to get down to the bottom & find out who the perp is & get that person charged & arrested.

But my question to Peaches (& everyone else) isn't about skepticism. I'm talking about the folks who have posted in one way, shape or form that they want specific people to essentially go away & NOT be involved in covering this case. People like KP, like Cobra, like AH, TJH, etc.

So that's what I'm puzzled about, because I honestly do not believe any one of them have any capacity to prevent the real perpetrator of this crime from being discovered & arrested.

JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:55 PM

Texas48

05-18-2009, 03:56 PM

ITA!!! I just don't know with this case and I'm not ready to throw anyone under the bus yet. Maybe for their actions since she has been gone, but these are not "normal" people so I can't know if their actions are normal to them or not. But I know if it is shown Ron had absolutely nothing to do with it or even Misty, there are some that will still say it was his fault completely. What I cannot understand is the hatred I see sometimes about a man they don't know personally, judging him by the cover and the reviews instead of waiting it out and seeing if their hatred is even remotely justified.carley..you and noanswer are both right...at the beginning I was judging Ron by his 911 call..his actions..his words and sometimes ..lack of. I had to take a step back..only..after being rude to posters when there was no need...after going back and reading my own post for many days..I could see what I was doing and took a good look in the mirrow..didn't like what I saw but I did remember..who I was and where I came from. There is no proof of anything except there is a little girl named Haleigh that needs to come home. I think that other fact we have is *Misty holds the key to the timeline*......in the end it will not matter who was right and who was wrong...we can listen to all the *I told you so* for the next year...still makes no difference...we are here for one reason....WE CARE.....if some want to bash..so be it....some want to make fun of GGM sitting in her recliner..OK....just maybe...the ones making fun of her......will stop with that...we just need to be true to ourselves and our beliefs...I can't judge any one of these characters..cause I just don't know what happened to Haleigh...jmo as always

Santa'sMom

05-18-2009, 03:58 PM

apple, thanks! can't a note to your mailbox, do you need to borrow a broom? SM

Anybody seen a sweeping smilie?

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 03:59 PM

If it is skepticism, I can understand it. Personally, I view every single statement from every single person with some degree of skepticism. And that includes LE, because they have a very high obligation to keep. They are not only obligated to investigate, but any arrest has to have a reasonable hope of being sucessfully prosecuted. Their hands are tied in so many ways, simply because of that. They also work very strategically & pick & choose what elements to speak about. They can slant the reporting in any way they believe will help them to get down to the bottom & find out who the perp is & get that person charged & arrested.

But my question to Peaches (& everyone else) isn't about skepticism. I'm talking about the folks who have posted in one way, shape or form that they want specific people to essentially go away & NOT be involved in covering this case. People like KP, like Cobra, like AH, TJH, etc.

So that's what I'm puzzled about, because I honestly do not believe any one of them have any capacity to prevent the real perpetrator of this crime from being discovered & arrested.

JMO
Bolding mine

They probably don't have, but I think they have a different agenda than finding the perp. KP is more into the custody issue and heaven only knows what the agenda of the other 3 you mentioned above is. JMO

2boysMom

05-18-2009, 04:01 PM

If it is skepticism, I can understand it. Personally, I view every single statement from every single person with some degree of skepticism. And that includes LE, because they have a very high obligation to keep. They are not only obligated to investigate, but any arrest has to have a reasonable hope of being sucessfully prosecuted. Their hands are tied in so many ways, simply because of that. They also work very strategically & pick & choose what elements to speak about. They can slant the reporting in any way they believe will help them to get down to the bottom & find out who the perp is & get that person charged & arrested.

But my question to Peaches (& everyone else) isn't about skepticism. I'm talking about the folks who have posted in one way, shape or form that they want specific people to essentially go away & NOT be involved in covering this case. People like KP, like Cobra, like AH, TJH, etc.

So that's what I'm puzzled about, because I honestly do not believe any one of them have any capacity to prevent the real perpetrator of this crime from being discovered & arrested.

JMO

my bolding.

I wonder if finding Haleigh is their primary motivation in all this. That's the problem I have with them.

I had such high hopes and confidence in Cobra when he first came on the scene. Now, not so much.

Peaches

05-18-2009, 04:25 PM

ITA. I understand exactly what you mean, Peaches. I also think he must have been very nervous thinking that the video would be widely viewed, and knowing it would be viewed by haters. I've never been in a video myself, but I know I'd be nervous as all heck.

Some have no problem in front of crowds............for others, they are very comfortable.

I just want to be the worker bee in the back.........with someone else out front and center.

Poor Ron..........hurting so badly and wanting to do what will help Haleigh...............and some finding fault.

To me, he did what he needed to do. Get Haleigh media attention. As he said, it is not about him.....it is about his daughter.

Mimi428

05-18-2009, 04:51 PM

I do not care for crude/rude talking...........that is me. I do not find it necessary. We do have other words in our language that would make the point just fine or even better.moo

<snipped>

I wonder, what in the name of heaven or h#ll kind of talking you WOULD care for, if he was trying to find YOUR child.

I think that is how you & I differ. I try to put myself in the shoes of someone who loved Haleigh, but did not cause this disappearance. If I was wearing those shoes, I can assure you that the language a PI uses would be the last freakin' thing on my mind as something to be concerned about. If cussing & swearing is actually a cause of concern for you, I do not think you have put yourself in those other shoes.

JMO

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 04:59 PM

Mimi, your post was too well thought out to snip.

I feel Cobra et al are doing nothing more than muddying the waters. Rumours abound, now there seems to be disharmony amongst the three musketeers. None of this, to date, has done a single thing to help find Haleigh. Bailing people out of jail, having them put back in, muck-raking, name-calling, none of it is helping to find Haleigh. When they come forward and say (and prove) something to the effect of 'the only thing we want from this is Haleigh', then I may have some faith in them. In the interim, I do not believe much of what they say, and their words speak much louder than their inaction.

IMO

Yep ITA.........

and i wonder why Kim wasn't on Geraldo last night.

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 05:02 PM

The more i hear about KP and her tactics behind the scenes the more i think Ron's lawyer is taking the high road in all this.

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 05:03 PM

o/t Fox news just interviewed someone involved in the recovery of the little boy in CA. Said when he was found wandering the streets, he was taken to houses in the neighbohood to see if he belonged to anyone there. Then was taken to the equivalent of child services. Said the little boy was really scared when they brought him back into the states and he saw all of the LE. Then he saw his mom and started running to her & crying. That must have been an emotional reunion. Just think how it will be when/if Haleigh is returned to her parents (hopefully very soon). JMO

I thought has mom had flown to Mexico to identify him.

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 05:13 PM

ITA. Whatever it takes. If they can stand the Anthonys, and it gets Haleigh's name out there, more power to them.

ITA. And I would never say the Anthonys are not hurting deeply. While we might not like their actions, they have lost someone absolutely precious.

titanfan217

05-18-2009, 05:20 PM

no mom couldn't leave the country she is here illegally and was afraid she couldn't get back......guys I am outta here, its been nice, see you tomorrow

Thanks for the correction. Amazing the media has something wrong -- not.

E-U-R

05-18-2009, 05:22 PM

I don't think the family are that closely associated with the Anthony's. They were just all there at the same time. I do think the Anthony's are sincere in their compassion for Haleigh's family.

It doesn't look like there were that many people there.

I hope they are not too associated but in the article that was linked that was the spin the media put on it and they even quoted marie as saying she was grateful that the anthony's were there and that she is disappointed in th elack of media coverage and if you look thru the photo album on the same article most of the pictures show the anthony's with them.... again my thought good that it is in the media but i don't like the spin on it and i wish it didn't have to be that way in order to make it interesting....
some time when a child is missing and it is assumed that the perp is someone within the family then the entire family gets thrown into the same category and the public blow it off... and unfortunately for crystal i thinkthat is exactly what is happening here... people who assume it is an inner circle disappearance just leave it at that and move on...

E-U-R

05-18-2009, 05:34 PM

ITA. And I would never say the Anthonys are not hurting deeply. While we might not like their actions, they have lost someone absolutely precious.

I absolutely agree that the anthony's are hurting deeply but they are hurting because their lying coniving daughter murdered their precious granddaughter and to make matters worse they are supporting/lying for her... Cindy's statement during the nanny deposition where she claimed that she had tons of phone numbers and addresses for zanny but doesn't hav ethem any more was the icing on the cake... and ye i know they are hurting none the less but their actions afterwards is what i think crystal should not be asociated with... it's too bad that the sheffields are between a rock and a hard place and had no choice but to associate with them just to get haleighs name more thunder.... sickening on the media's part in my opinion

JackiBlu

05-18-2009, 07:00 PM

To be specific Jacki told Viking to post it everyday. The song on the video is really good. The pictures are, too.

Diamond if you are going to quote me make sure you get it right.

My post from last night;

Maybe you should keep this and post it a few times daily on this board since you like it so much....what a joke.

Seems you left out the most important part of my post. WHY????

JMO

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 07:17 PM

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=58602

Wonder if this person is related to a another person who has been in jail recently. JMO

diamond

05-18-2009, 07:31 PM

Diamond if you are going to quote me make sure you get it right.

My post from last night;

Maybe you should keep this and post it a few times daily on this board since you like it so much....what a joke.

Seems you left out the most important part of my post. WHY????

JMO

Jacki, As you can see from my post I was not quoting you so there was not any reason to post all of it.

diamond

05-18-2009, 07:32 PM

Excuse me? Did you read what I posted?
Have a good night
jo

Yes, I did read it.

JackiBlu

05-18-2009, 07:38 PM

Jacki, As you can see from my post I was not quoting you so there was not any reason to post all of it.

Spin it as much as you want. I stand by my post of posting ALL of it.

JMO

diamond

05-18-2009, 07:41 PM

Spin it as much as you want. I stand by my post of posting ALL of it.

JMO

There is nothing worth spinning concerning your post or mine.

JackiBlu

05-18-2009, 07:42 PM

Its Ok Peaches, its called twisting what is written to make an incorrect assumption.
jo

ITA Bully. Seems to be alot of that going around today.

JMO

Texas48

05-18-2009, 07:53 PM

o/t Fox news just interviewed someone involved in the recovery of the little boy in CA. Said when he was found wandering the streets, he was taken to houses in the neighbohood to see if he belonged to anyone there. Then was taken to the equivalent of child services. Said the little boy was really scared when they brought him back into the states and he saw all of the LE. Then he saw his mom and started running to her & crying. That must have been an emotional reunion. Just think how it will be when/if Haleigh is returned to her parents (hopefully very soon). JMOI finally got back to the board..hate when real life calls and all of you KWIM.....I am watcing the re=run on HLN right now..he is a real cutie..what a story to touch one's heart....I did notice he has his hair cut very very short...This is called a Miracle and Haleigh will have one as well....:thumbsup:

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 07:58 PM

I finally got back to the board..hate when real life calls and all of you KWIM.....I am watcing the re=run on HLN right now..he is a real cutie..what a story to touch one's heart....I did notice he has his hair cut very very short...This is called a Miracle and Haleigh will have one as well....:thumbsup:

He looks totally different with that hair cut. Wonder if whomever took Haleigh cut/died her hair. She could be nearby and possibly no one would recognize her. JMO

panache

05-18-2009, 08:00 PM

Drug Dealer Search and Haliegh

http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_DRUG-DEALER-SEARCH-and-HALEIGH/BLOG/281189/72667.html

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 08:06 PM

Drug Dealer Search and Haliegh

http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_DRUG-DEALER-SEARCH-and-HALEIGH/BLOG/281189/72667.html

That seems to be the same information that AH has posted on his site. In fact there is a link to his site and it says it is copyright. That is from 5-14. JMO

panache

05-18-2009, 08:07 PM

As Rosanna danna used to say if its not one thing its another.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=138123&catid=3

panache

05-18-2009, 08:18 PM

http://www.bloggernews.net/120901

panache

05-18-2009, 08:19 PM

That seems to be the same information that AH has posted on his site. In fact there is a link to his site and it says it is copyright. That is from 5-14. JMO

Well if you notice I found it at Fox. Fox probably got permission.

moo

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:24 PM

Good Evening (:

Anything happen today?

New developments?

Anything.............?

:read:

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:27 PM

As Rosanna danna used to say if its not one thing its another.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=138123&catid=3

LOL at Rosanannadanna

Is this lady in the character play or just a random extra?

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:28 PM

Haven't heard nothing new, Tara
jo

Thanks BJ

Each night I get home from work and check here because if anything new happened, you guys seem to know before the major media

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:31 PM

<snipped>

I wonder, what in the name of heaven or h#ll kind of talking you WOULD care for, if he was trying to find YOUR child.

I think that is how you & I differ. I try to put myself in the shoes of someone who loved Haleigh, but did not cause this disappearance. If I was wearing those shoes, I can assure you that the language a PI uses would be the last freakin' thing on my mind as something to be concerned about. If cussing & swearing is actually a cause of concern for you, I do not think you have put yourself in those other shoes.

JMO

It takes one "in the hood" to find one "in the hood" so to speak

That is his mentality in my opinion and I am all for it

(:

panache

05-18-2009, 08:33 PM

Thanks BJ

Each night I get home from work and check here because if anything new happened, you guys seem to know before the major media

I was at work all day also Tara, I'm trying to get up to speed myself. Apparantley its been a slow day with this case. I'm trolling the web to see what I can find.

moo

Texas48

05-18-2009, 08:35 PM

wonder where they got the pictures JMOdon't know dusty but it could have come from several places...MS comes to mind..but..why pick that one picture? Are there any pictures of you that you would rather NOT have the world see? jmo

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:41 PM

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:45 PM

I also believe both families read *the boards*..and IMO they all care..what they read.

As well they should

And a couple of them could stop all the inneudoes if they would cooperate

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 08:46 PM

Ok ... just watched the video of Ron from his lawyer's website

What was the two minute pause with Ron?

He looked so lost .. like the cue cards disappeared or something

Not good ...

And what is all the Christian stuff at the bottom?

Totally confused

At least the number of people going to the site has increased dramatically. Last week the count was just over 2,000. Now it is over 14,000. It is keeping Haleigh's information out there. JMO

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:48 PM

At least the number of people going to the site has increased dramatically. Last week the count was just over 2,000. Now it is over 14,000. It is keeping Haleigh's information out there. JMO

But in no way was it in a positive light

His lawyer needs to perform a do-over ASAP

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 08:51 PM

But in no way was it in a positive light

His lawyer needs to perform a do-over ASAP

Me no understand. JMO

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 08:52 PM

But in no way was it in a positive light

His lawyer needs to perform a do-over ASAP

Tara did you ever find those court records talking about Ron going to jail for Haleigh missing school?

Thank you

TaraCrazyHair

05-18-2009, 08:53 PM

Me no understand. JMO

People who go there I would assume are already aware of the case

Ron is so fake it is not funny .. especially when he sits there staring for almost a minute like "where did the cue cards go?!"

More fodder for the gossip

Nothing accomplished

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 08:56 PM

People who go there I would assume are already aware of the case

Ron is so fake it is not funny .. especially when he sits there staring for almost a minute like "where did the cue cards go?!"

More fodder for the gossip

Nothing accomplished

One accomplishment is that it has given posters hours and hours of enjoyment complaining and making fun of it!!

JMO

panache

05-18-2009, 09:09 PM

Interesting that Ron has used Chuck Bonds a few times. Chuck gets around.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

moo

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 09:13 PM

Interesting that Ron has used Chuck Bonds a few times. Chuck gets around.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

moo

yes they do. i'm sure they've bonded out hundreds of people.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 09:41 PM

I am late today, but it seems like a slow day here.

Thanks for the link panache and I am sure I hate to even ask this question because I think I already know the answer to it.

Did anyone from the Cummings side of the family go to this?...anyone?

It has been reported that they have a vigil every night at their home. There was not very many people at the M. Bart event. JMO

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 09:42 PM

I am late today, but it seems like a slow day here.

Thanks for the link panache and I am sure I hate to even ask this question because I think I already know the answer to it.

Did anyone from the Cummings side of the family go to this?...anyone?

No they sure didn't. Shameful if you ask me. They should take every chance to put their babies name in the news.

Apple, do you by any chance know if there were court records talking about Ron going to jail for haleigh missing school?

Thank you

* sneeze and coughs* no really it's not the swine flu just a cold.

MrLucky917B

05-18-2009, 09:43 PM

Interesting that Ron has used Chuck Bonds a few times. Chuck gets around.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

moo

You have to get around when your the only show in town...

MrLucky917B

05-18-2009, 09:45 PM

panache

05-18-2009, 10:15 PM

You have to get around when your the only show in town...

~~~waving to Mr.Lucky~~~

How was your trip there today? Anything going on?

Is Chuck Bonds the bonding of choice for drug related cases? I tried googling for Putnam County Bondsmen, but I got back many, many counties in my reply. Jerome, Nay Nay, Amber, and Ron using the same bondsman is interesting. Coincidence only?

moo

Elle

05-18-2009, 10:20 PM

No they sure didn't. Shameful if you ask me. They should take every chance to put their babies name in the news.

Apple, do you by any chance know if there were court records talking about Ron going to jail for haleigh missing school?

Thank you

* sneeze and coughs* no really it's not the swine flu just a cold.

The Cummings side hold nightly vigils

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

"Every day is a little harder," Annette Sykes, Cummings' grandmother, said Friday. "We still have candlelight vigils every night."

Teresa Neves, Cummings' mother, said the vigils are open to the public and take place on Front Street in Welaka.

?noanswer

05-18-2009, 10:26 PM

Are you serious?

I guess we see things in a different light.

I do not look back to four years ago. I am sure there is not one person on this board that can not say they have not made some mistakes in thier past. I know I can't and I do know there is not one perfect person walking this earth.

I look at the days or even a few months surrounding Haleighs disappearance. Here are some of the things I have seen and I am sure they are more, but I am forgetting since I am just writing off the top of my head.

1) LE has had trouble from day one with Misty's " time line".

2) Ron spent $400.00 on Tattoo's that I am sure the person that donated the $400.00 would have put it toward, the reward money, TES, food for JR, etc. etc. $400.00 can go a long ways in a search like this.

3) Ron wants the camera out of his face - while getting donated tattoo's.

4) Ron proposes to Misty within 30 days of Haleigh disappearing.

5) Ron marries the barely 17 year old girl that LE is having problems with - such as time lines, walking out of an interview, can't get her story straight, etc.

6) Misty and Ron have refused numerous interview request from JVM.

7) Ron gets fired from a job that in today's economy most people are begging for. He could get engaged, tatto's, married, but he couldn't take the tiem to call his employer.

8) We see Ron in a horrible interview on his attorney's site and he is not holding Haleighs picture.

9) I have not heard of any facts that Ron is out searching for Haleigh. In fact, I haven't even heard a rumor he is out searching for Haleigh.

I am sure there is much more I am leaving out, but right now that is just some things I am thinking about.

_________________

Crystal

1) Having medical issues

2) Picked up and moved and lived in a tent trying to find Haleigh.

3) Opened the Haleigh Bug Center

4) More medical conditions, but she does not give up. She stays at the Haleigh Bug Center when she can.

5) Goes to events, hands out flyers, etc. even with her medical condition going on.

I am sure I have left out things on Crystal also, but those are off the top of my head also.

Now - Let's look at Haleigh for ONE MOMENT

If you were a little girl kidnapped and I fear she is not with us anymore, but lets say she still is and I can only hope and pray she is. (I am sure some of you remember Shawn Hornbeck.)

Which parent do you think is doing the best job in trying to find Haleigh?

Which parent would you want looking for your child? I know who I would chose - by far it would be Crystal.

Now, think about that for ONE MOMENT...and I can only hope some will answer my question.

You need to add this re CS
http://www.haleighbug.com/
"Haleigh’s Mother, Crystal Sheffield, has returned to her home in Baker County, Florida with her family."

JMO

Thurs-Child

05-18-2009, 10:54 PM

Are you serious?

I guess we see things in a different light.

I do not look back to four years ago. I am sure there is not one person on this board that can not say they have not made some mistakes in thier past. I know I can't and I do know there is not one perfect person walking this earth.

I look at the days or even a few months surrounding Haleighs disappearance. Here are some of the things I have seen and I am sure they are more, but I am forgetting since I am just writing off the top of my head.

1) LE has had trouble from day one with Misty's " time line".

2) Ron spent $400.00 on Tattoo's that I am sure the person that donated the $400.00 would have put it toward, the reward money, TES, food for JR, etc. etc. $400.00 can go a long ways in a search like this.

3) Ron wants the camera out of his face - while getting donated tattoo's.

4) Ron proposes to Misty within 30 days of Haleigh disappearing.

5) Ron marries the barely 17 year old girl that LE is having problems with - such as time lines, walking out of an interview, can't get her story straight, etc.

6) Misty and Ron have refused numerous interview request from JVM.

7) Ron gets fired from a job that in today's economy most people are begging for. He could get engaged, tatto's, married, but he couldn't take the tiem to call his employer.

8) We see Ron in a horrible interview on his attorney's site and he is not holding Haleighs picture.

9) I have not heard of any facts that Ron is out searching for Haleigh. In fact, I haven't even heard a rumor he is out searching for Haleigh.

I am sure there is much more I am leaving out, but right now that is just some things I am thinking about.

_________________

Crystal

1) Having medical issues

2) Picked up and moved and lived in a tent trying to find Haleigh.

3) Opened the Haleigh Bug Center

4) More medical conditions, but she does not give up. She stays at the Haleigh Bug Center when she can.

5) Goes to events, hands out flyers, etc. even with her medical condition going on.

I am sure I have left out things on Crystal also, but those are off the top of my head also.

Now - Let's look at Haleigh for ONE MOMENT

If you were a little girl kidnapped and I fear she is not with us anymore, but lets say she still is and I can only hope and pray she is. (I am sure some of you remember Shawn Hornbeck.)

Which parent do you think is doing the best job in trying to find Haleigh?

Which parent would you want looking for your child? I know who I would chose - by far it would be Crystal.

Now, think about that for ONE MOMENT...and I can only hope some will answer my question.

[B]I'll come out of lurking to say that was a wonderful post, Apple. Thank you.

FallenAngel♥

05-18-2009, 11:01 PM

The Cummings side hold nightly vigils

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

"Every day is a little harder," Annette Sykes, Cummings' grandmother, said Friday. "We still have candlelight vigils every night."

Teresa Neves, Cummings' mother, said the vigils are open to the public and take place on Front Street in Welaka.

Thank you Elle.

E-U-R

05-18-2009, 11:03 PM

People who go there I would assume are already aware of the case

Ron is so fake it is not funny .. especially when he sits there staring for almost a minute like "where did the cue cards go?!"

More fodder for the gossip

Nothing accomplished

did anyone happen to notice that Ron broke out the fancy shmancy wedding shirt for the video?
I watched it with no sound because my speakers are broken and it looked like he had no clue what he was saying he did not look emotional and it seemed like he did not want to be doing it in the first place... like some one made him do it... in some parts it almost seems like he is rolling his eyes at himself... kind of like he doesn't even buy what he is saying....
please everybody don't respond back to me with the oh he was nervous comments or the oh he doesn't have enough money for clothes malarchy... I think he busted out the time to put on the front and the button down much like at his wedding

E-U-R

05-18-2009, 11:28 PM

nothing new here
nuh-night

LILMANMAX

05-18-2009, 11:29 PM

I must be really stuck on stupid or something worse. But I do not understand why there are so many people who do not believe this precious little girl was snatched by some sicko. In the real world it does happen more than not.

Just a few days ago some nut tried to snatch a little girl and she screamed and his attempt was foiled.

Now granted I'm not saying all the family are angels. But I've never read this intensity of remarks and hatred for some of these family members. Some of them may or may not use drugs. They may not be the most highly educated or well off. But the juvenile character assassinations made against this family make me barf.

RC speaks and its not right. His shirt is scrutinized like he is on the Red Carpet. The GGM has been attacked. His mother attacked.

I remember some other cases where the family was vilified. I will never forget what the poor Lunsford family went through. I was a member of the original CTV boards and it got real bad during that time before LE cracked the case.

MC may have inconsistencies. But I have enough faith in LE that if there was something that really stunk - they would have arrested her. The home was gone over by the forensics team. I've even read on here Haleigh was not even in school that day. :rolleyes:

I am so happy I found the In Session Boards but alas will have to stay off the Haleigh forum. I cannot deal with the gossip fodder and cannot believe CW does either. Maybe why it gets shut down so often.

Have fun with all your gossip and untruths. :seeya:

Riverwalk!

05-19-2009, 12:11 AM

apple, Cobra has been known to misspeak. He also said that Marty/Johnny and Connie raised Haleigh. We know that's not true.

Even Art, in his comment section said the convenience store before 3:00 am is an internet rumor and that LE confirmed to him it's not true. I guess we'll know for sure someday.

Art Harris Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Hmm: Where did you see the 2 am convenience store? likely a questionable website poster, hearing something and passing it along as gospel. police tell me he worked his shift.

Art Harris Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 8:51 am
You didn’t read the 2 am on bonafide news sites, I’m betting, likely posters passing gossip and rumor as usual.

lol and this:
So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant.
“We had two phone pings that show he never left the plant,” a lead law enforcement investigator on the case tells me in an exclusive interview. “There’s a cell tower that covers the plant and it hits when he gets there…We don’t have pings from any other tower” during his shift. “And we have people who saw him there throughout the night, as secondary backup.”
On the way home, investigators also know he stopped by a convenience store to buy a few things. That would certainly seem to debunk one theory that he went to the trailer to check on Misty, then returned to work that night."

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#more-1731

Out of here. I need to go bleach myself after reading some of these posts about Haleigh's dad.

Mimi428

05-19-2009, 12:11 AM

I also believe both families read *the boards*..and IMO they all care..what they read.

I can't even imagine how the heck they could even begin to make a decision on which *board* to read. There are all the local message boards attached the the newspaper, WS, SM, us, BNN, AH - good grief, the list probably goes on & on...& on.

I would hope they would find better ways to occupy themselves, but who knows, maybe in their minds reading the *boards* is a good way to spend the time.

But just in case they do - & just on the slightest possibility they may read IS & on the even slighter possibility they may read this post - all I can say is...Ron & Misty - GO to LE & stay there until you can satisfy the investigators about the timeline.

JMO

4Kids

05-19-2009, 12:14 AM

Don't know who is still on at this late hour....but I have been reviewing and have found nothing new.

Same old questions I will post (Yoda?):

1. Any confirmation of Misty lawyering up?

2. Any confirmation from LE that they have any info other than the same from day 1?

3. Any updates on CR?

4. Anyone willing to confirm the convenience store story? AH not only does not confirm, but says it is a rumor and LE has said it is not true (assuming LE is his source, which irritates me to no end);

5. Has anyone reported any consistencies from the latest abduction attempt of the 4 year old girl (I think in Orange County) to that of Haleigh? Anyone here think they could be related?

Thanks for any info.....

Sadly....I could stay off this board for weeks, and it seems LE has gone no further. MOO

4Kids

05-19-2009, 12:19 AM

I can't even imagine how the heck they could even begin to make a decision on which *board* to read. There are all the local message boards attached the the newspaper, WS, SM, us, BNN, AH - good grief, the list probably goes on & on...& on.

I would hope they would find better ways to occupy themselves, but who knows, maybe in their minds reading the *boards* is a good way to spend the time.

But just in case they do - & just on the slightest possibility they may read IS & on the even slighter possibility they may read this post - all I can say is...Ron & Misty - GO to LE & stay there until you can satisfy the investigators about the timeline.

JMO

Mimi, yes, ITA with your last sentiment!...Ron and Misty....go to LE and talk until you are blue in the face and get LE moving; I think you and I disagree on what happened here Mimi, however, if LE is stuck on family (even though it seems they have no forensics), then Ron and Misty need to show up at their office every day until SOMETHING/ANYTHING happens.

If you are reading this board Ron...grow up. Don't worry about public perception and just make sure LE finds your daughter. Not in spite of you, but because of you. IMO

Mimi428

05-19-2009, 12:29 AM

?noanswer - You posted something I have thought about in the past.

That is why I would think all websites that are designed for Haleigh should include a shot from the front and also a side shot. I am sure you realize she has that birthmark on the side of her face and it could take something small like that to recognize her IF someone has her.

Thanks for reminding us of that. When I first saw the video that Ron recently did it made me wonder why his attorneys didn't help him figure out how to say some very personal things about Haleigh. What she liked, anything specific that would help personalize her to the audience. Mention the birthmark. Mention her Turner Syndrome & work every angle to help pinch & poke the conscience of someone who may know something. Tell the audience how much Butterbean misses his Sissy. Look in that camera dead-on & say, "Haleigh, I will NEVER, NEVER stop looking for you." Or speak to the abductor, "Please, I am begging you to return Haleigh to her family. Her brother is crying for her, she needs her medical check-ups", etc.

I think he was very poorly served by his attorneys in regards to that video.

JMO

Santa'sMom

05-19-2009, 01:49 AM

LOL...I am sorry, I am slowly catching up it has been one of those days.

I cleaned out my PM box. I hope you are still on-line and thank you for bringing that to my attention.

No problem:) I am without internet at home for a couple more days so I can only post piecemeal. Dropped a note off a few moments ago. Again, thank you for the information.

Murtle

05-19-2009, 04:13 AM

Whoooooooosh right over your head. Missed Art's doublespeak/articles.

Nothing on AH site is FACT. Never has been and never will be. The man wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the butt, imo.

Just like Art Harris smeared Richard Jewell and loved Howard K. Stern, he's chooses sides and totally looses all his credibility. IMO.

No wonder he's getting sued over his "love affair" with Howard K. Stern. His "bald truth" was bald faced lies. IMO.

He's a joke, moo.

Thanks, I didn't remember Stern. I will search tomorrow. Really sad we only have a handful of info and it's not coming from LE or the media. Just some players.