Monday May 18/09

[Lavinia]

:thumbsup: sorry...lol... Awww poor Casey, she made a big deal about eating grits! I like grits, but I have to say, I have never had grits made in jail, so maybe they taste different. :biggrin:

As long as you like to eat sand. :lol:

[Anakerie]

I ain't skeered of no hack double-ought spy! :laugh:

I emailed her with my full legal name from my ISP email account.
lol, I only gave her my first name and I used the email account that is associated with my blog... You're braver than I am, Lavinia... :lol:

[101Spots]

I agree.. Ask a simple question and get a page worth of answer from a liar.

I do think George saw them on the 16th though. That was information first gleaned right after the 15th of July. You could tell in the interviews with LE that George was being pretty candid and truthful, as he was trying to "brother up" to the investigators, being a detecti, er sherrif, er I meant deputy at one time in his earlier years.

George in that interview, was saying things that I'm sure he regrets now, about Casey and Cindy, and just things in general. The smell. You never forget that smell.

He was being honest then. But not now. I did notice for the LKL that Cindy told him he good take his "bullring" off.

George is a lemming. A patsy. He has no courage on his own, and he's not the most intelligent guy in the house (admittedly). He's just a SISSY MARY. He's probably a bad bowler too.


Oooooooo, low blow!!


:lol:

[Neffy]

Why would anybody write that stuff down. You're going to do it, you do it, you don't write a letter. JMO.

Don't forget after George wrote it , he decided to start texting it. :wink:

[Dunlurken]

That was my first thought, too. But then........ WTH is Cindy doing *practicing* giving Caylee shots? Why even take a needle to her unless it's a real shot. So what is Cindy doing giving Caylee her immunizations? Do RNs normally take home shots?

So maybe it was the other shots?

Casey nor Caylee had no health insurance. Shots cost money. Cindy is a RN. She could administer and verify the shots as a RN attached to wherever Cindy worked. I hope that made sense. LOL.

[MiamiNice1]

(I haven't heard from her despite PM's.):crying:

It TRULY is too hard to comprehend. I was stunned at her reply, or even that she would reply.

My thanks to you and Anakerie for "taking one for the team" and saying everything we would have liked to say to Cindy. :thumbup:


(thanks for the update, L, on Imperfect)

[Lavinia]

That was my first thought, too. But then........ WTH is Cindy doing *practicing* giving Caylee shots? Why even take a needle to her unless it's a real shot. So what is Cindy doing giving Caylee her immunizations? Do RNs normally take home shots?

So maybe it was the other shots?

I doubt it was immunizations. While many doctors have immunizations, it's usually only a pediatrician who carries the correct dosage and complete array of pedi vaccines. She worked in some type of admin in a home health care, IIRC.

[Xmygrits]

It's on my blog, Feelin...
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/
The top 2 posts.. scroll down for the open letter and then back up to the top for her response...

I've been busy with another project, so I haven't done any more posts on the blog since those.. hehe

Great blog Anakerie!

[jammies]

I think Caylee was up-to-date on her shots. Should be interesting to see if her shot record comes out in court and it will prove or disprove the statement "we taught Caylee how to take shots".

I don't know, just an opinion. My first thought as a grandma was immunizations too. :confused:



It will also be interesting to find out who PAID for her shots, medical care, etc.

[Xmygrits]

:thumbsup: sorry...lol... Awww poor Casey, she made a big deal about eating grits! I like grits, but I have to say, I have never had grits made in jail, so maybe they taste different. :biggrin:

Ah, it's ok. I have no idea either. I bet they are gluey and slimy, at least one can hope!

I eat my grits with peanutbutter!

[msgatorslayer]

It will also be interesting to find out who PAID for her shots, medical care, etc.

Well, we know it wasn't Casey, unless she used stolen/borrowed funds to pay for it.

Hey Mom, there was a problem with payroll this week and Caylee has a Dr. appt tommorrow, can you spot me some cash? Oh, and make sure you pay my phone bill too. :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

Wow...just Wow...that woman didn't have a very Christian attitude, when she replied to you.

I wonder how she got so many people to join a church, as she claims with a mouth like that!

She just proves again what a hypocrite she is.


I wonder if there's a weigh in? :shrug:

[Tracian]

I wonder if there's a weigh in? :shrug:



:lol: Does that woman hear what she says? Does she read what writes?

If I was a member of her church, me thinks I would find a new one!

[Anakerie]

Great blog Anakerie!
:blushing: Thank you... :-)

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony's attorney wants judge to dismiss civil case
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-dismissed-051809,0,1292515.story

[Lavinia]

lol, I only gave her my first name and I used the email account that is associated with my blog... You're braver that I am, Lavinia... :lol:

I figure it was fair to her. I know HER full name and particulars, I thought she should know mine.

I debated posting her email to me for 2 reasons, one being I'm not exactly proud of the way I went at her (I DON'T normally talk to people that way except you guys I LOVE, :wub:), and the other is her right to privacy in correspondence. I consulted with several people I trust and came up with the decision to post it. You didn't need to address any of those concerns since you were very nice to her and it was obvious she was speaking to a public blog.

[Lavinia]

I wonder if there's a weigh in? :shrug:

I'm sure there's a dental clinic.

[Anakerie]

I figure it was fair to her. I know HER full name and particulars, I thought she should know mine.

I debated posting her email to me for 2 reasons, one being I'm not exactly proud of the way I went at her (I DON'T normally talk to people that way except you guys I LOVE, :wub:), and the other is her right to privacy in correspondence. I consulted with several people I trust and came up with the decision to post it. You didn't need to address any of those concerns since you were very nice to her and it was obvious she was speaking to a public blog.
LOL... I didn't think I was that nice to her... You should have seen the first draft of that open letter... lol.. Like I told her in my response, the things I said to her in that letter would probably have been similar to what I would say to a friend if I saw that friend screwing things up as badly as the Anthonys have. Well... Maybe. With a friend, I might have been a bit more blunt. I was surprised at the venom in her repsonse to me. And now, comparing the response I got to the one you got, it makes me wonder about Cindy... Does she swing back and forth that much with her emotions? IMO, the woman needs to get help for herself before she tries "helping" someone else.

[desmom]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

[101Spots]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

Apparently they can't remember her name. Hence the push to "keep her memory alive" now.

[cassidy]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

Yeppers it sure does. I don't understand why they don't simply use her name?

JMO

[AMS]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

According to Larry King - there are too many "names with C's". Must confuse the family too :rolleyes:

imo

[ttcRider]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

ohhhh the classics. I usually save those ones for rainy days. :laugh:

[FeelinFroggy617]

It's on my blog, Feelin...
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/
The top 2 posts.. scroll down for the open letter and then back up to the top for her response...

I've been busy with another project, so I haven't done any more posts on the blog since those.. hehe



Thanks Anakerie!!!! Off to read now! :wink:

[desmom]

Apparently they can't remember her name. Hence the push to "keep her memory alive" now.

Yeppers it sure does. I don't understand why they don't simply use her name?

JMO

Thanks. I am glad it is not just me. I am yelling at my computer monitor "That child's name is Caylee!" My dog got it. She hid under the computer stand.

[Neffy]

lol, I only gave her my first name and I used the email account that is associated with my blog... You're braver than I am, Lavinia... :lol:

LOL! I figured I get under her skin was with a back atcha shallow physical appearance comment. If one is that shallow and superficial to throw them it must be a massive blow to get one back. You can say anything to her and it has no impact. Talk about her looks and Bullya .... ROFL! :blink:

[True2Blues]

It bothers me. They completely de-personalize Caylee, as if she's someone they've never met.:cursing:

They just don't care. Caylee is only of use as a money making device for them. The only names that matter to George and Cindy are their own, on television, and of course their darling daughter. yech

[TunaMelt]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?

Hi desmom,

I think you are the most dedicated sleuther on this board. I don't know how you manage to re-watch these interviews, but I'm glad you do.

About how they refer to Caylee, in such a generic way: I know a lot of people were stunned and really bothered by it, and while I don't talk about my own child, or my grandchildren in that way -- I don't think I'd hold this up as indicative of his distant feelings toward Caylee.

I noticed that on another interview, he repeatedly called Cindy "my wife" even though he and the detective -- and Cindy -- were all on a first name basis. And that struck me as odd. In a situation where everyone knows everyone, I'd use my husband's first name -- they used Cindy's first name, but George comes back with "my wife."

:confused:

You know, maybe it is telling, desmom. Maybe it does show emotional distance.:confused:

Maybe it does mean something and I shouldn't have opened my mouth.
:blushing:

Now I don't know what to think.

[Neffy]

Yeppers it sure does. I don't understand why they don't simply use her name?

JMO

I've done that at home never in public regarding a serious matter.

When I'm ticked off I call one of the kids the name of their sibling and after I go thru about 3 names I say "whoever you are" (by now they're laughing at me) Whoever you are you know I'm talking to you! :wink:

[5boxersmom]

Check this out. Wonder if Casey's defense will try to use something like this?

http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html

[FeelinFroggy617]

I am watching George's FBI interviews (*sigh* again).
http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html

:cursing: Does it bother anyone else that George (and other family members) refer to Caylee as "that little girl", "that child" or "that baby"?


It bothered me most during the memorial service. They barely uttered her name. Yet, they had no problem mentioning Caseys name, speaking directly to her. (well not directly, but you know what I mean)

[Neffy]

Check this out. Wonder if Casey's defense will try to use something like this?

http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html

See there again! Casey claims to have dropped "this child" off with a living breathing Nanny. Casey ruled out any other person being involved. Casey and the Nanny are the last to see Caylee and her known whereabouts. Erase the invisible nanny from the equation and who do you have left.

[Anakerie]

I've done that at home never in public regarding a serious matter.

When I'm ticked off I call one of the kids the name of their sibling and after I go thru about 3 names I say "whoever you are" (by now they're laughing at me) Whoever you are you know I'm talking to you! :wink:

:lol: ROFL!! I know exactly what you mean because I've been there too... And by the end of it, somehow I'm not so mad and I'm laughing along with the rest of them... hehehe

Their constant use of "that child", "that little girl" and everything else but Caylee's name bothers me too... I have 7 grandkids, and even back when I only had ONE, I spoke about him using his name. I can not figure this family out at all... I have never in my life seen such a dysfunctional group of people in one family. And it's all of them, not just one or two in a family that behave badly. It's all of them!

[Tia]

I figure it was fair to her. I know HER full name and particulars, I thought she should know mine.

I debated posting her email to me for 2 reasons, one being I'm not exactly proud of the way I went at her (I DON'T normally talk to people that way except you guys I LOVE, :wub:), and the other is her right to privacy in correspondence. I consulted with several people I trust and came up with the decision to post it. You didn't need to address any of those concerns since you were very nice to her and it was obvious she was speaking to a public blog.


Thanks for posting it Lavinia. Don't feel bad, I think Cindy brings out the worst in most people. As we keep hearing, she and Geo are not "likeable".

Nothing in her response was surprising. She is just living in MAJOR denial.

[Lavinia]

LOL... I didn't think I was that nice to her... You should have seen the first draft of that open letter... lol.. Like I told her in my response, the things I said to her in that letter would probably have been similar to what I would say to a friend if I saw that friend screwing things up as badly as the Anthonys have. Well... Maybe. With a friend, I might have been a bit more blunt. I was surprised at the venom in her repsonse to me. And now, comparing the response I got to the one you got, it makes me wonder about Cindy... Does she swing back and forth that much with her emotions? IMO, the woman needs to get help for herself before she tries "helping" someone else.

With all the sincerity in the world, I wish she would get help. This whole thing is just INSANE, absolutely insane. Casey is just a run of the mill criminal. She didn't do anything that's not done way too often and we don't even hear about it. The only thing really different about this in the beginning, was that Caylee wasn't reported as missing for so long. That's what set the case apart, IMO. Plus, some things that factored in was Casey's socio-economic standing, and she *seemed* relatively attractive and Caylee was definitely attractive. Actually what Casey did is not really among the top 25% of heinousness among children killed by their parents, IMO.

But between the murder and it's apparent circumstances, then add in Baez, and the hand family and you have a six-ring circus. They need to be saved from themselves but I guess people have the right to run their lives into the ditch if they want to. Beats all I ever saw.

[5boxersmom]

See there again! Casey claims to have dropped "this child" off with a living breathing Nanny. Casey ruled out any other person being involved. Casey and the Nanny are the last to see Caylee and her known whereabouts. Erase the invisible nanny from the equation and who do you have left.

Yep she narrowed it down didn't she?

[Anakerie]

Check this out. Wonder if Casey's defense will try to use something like this?

http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html
Even if Baez were dumb enough to try to use that case, he'd still have to figure a way to explain away the 31 days and the invisible nanny.

[margaritaville]

Thanks for that. This ties in with what Lee and Casey called their Sunday Fundays. I'm trying to find something to tie into Cindy and maybe the entire family having alcohol problems.
Cindy displays many characteristics of an alcoholic.

I have often wondered what was actually in those bottles of "water" she has to slurp down everytime she is being interviewed....moo

[desmom]

Hi desmom,

I think you are the most dedicated sleuther on this board. I don't know how you manage to re-watch these interviews, but I'm glad you do.

About how they refer to Caylee, in such a generic way: I know a lot of people were stunned and really bothered by it, and while I don't talk about my own child, or my grandchildren in that way -- I don't think I'd hold this up as indicative of his distant feelings toward Caylee.

I noticed that on another interview, he repeatedly called Cindy "my wife" even though he and the detective -- and Cindy -- were all on a first name basis. And that struck me as odd. In a situation where everyone knows everyone, I'd use my husband's first name -- they used Cindy's first name, but George comes back with "my wife."

:confused:

You know, maybe it is telling, desmom. Maybe it does show emotional distance.:confused:

Maybe it does mean something and I shouldn't have opened my mouth.
:blushing:

Now I don't know what to think.

(skooching over to share The Don't Know What to Think bench with TunaMelt and passing TM a piece of chocolate.)

I have never really watched the entire FBI videos. After watching Part 1 & 2 of George's, now I remember why. This family does like to ring their own chimes. George went on for 3 or 4 minutes how all on his very own he started a savings account for Caylee depositing $30 each month.

I have never ran across a family that is so Me, Me, Me!

jmo

[Lavinia]

I've done that at home never in public regarding a serious matter.

When I'm ticked off I call one of the kids the name of their sibling and after I go thru about 3 names I say "whoever you are" (by now they're laughing at me) Whoever you are you know I'm talking to you! :wink:

Same here. Heck, I've called my kids the cat's name sometimes. I wind up with "whatever your name is" and they look at me like the same thing isn't going to happen to them someday, lol.

[5boxersmom]

Even if Baez were dumb enough to try to use that case, he'd still have to figure a way to explain away the 31 days and the invisible nanny.

Yep. I don't think Baez knows what his defense can be. :biggrin:

imo

[margaritaville]

I think I heard Cindy say they write letters,can you imagine the letter Casey writes,all about her being so alone and they get to go out and have a real good time with these a$$ine media footing the bill,thanks to her!I can only imagine.

If I were to write Casey a letter would it get to her or would it be blocked by Jose?

just curious if she gets mail...

[Lavinia]

According to Larry King - there are too many "names with C's". Must confuse the family too :rolleyes:

imo

:laugh: Does everyone remember how long it took us to hash all those C's out in the beginning? To this day, when I write one of their names I take particular care not to confuse the names because a slip would really be ugly in context. :scared:

[Lavinia]

Yep. I don't think Baez knows what his defense can be. :biggrin:

imo

Or Casey's. :biggrin:

[Lavinia]

If I were to write Casey a letter would it get to her or would it be blocked by Jose?

just curious if she gets mail...

She gets mail and Jose' should have nothing to do with it. It is her right and it is between her and the correctional institute/federal government. He may tell her what to think of what she gets, but HE can't disallow her mail.

[desmom]

I have to take a break after 2 parts of George's video. I have a headache.

Here is the article that WFTV posted with the FBI links. http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html It has some quotes from some of G & C's statements to the FBI.

[Neffy]

Yep. I don't think Baez knows what his defense can be. :biggrin:

imo

You got that right. Everytime he has an excuse for one thing, he can't explain the next. All of his excuses negate another event.

Caylee kidnapped but an "unknown". Well Casey knew the Nanny for YEARS let's talk to the Nanny to find out how this happened. No Nanny.

Nanny was Jeff Hopkins Nanny. Let's call Jeff, oops no Jeff with a son named Zachary.

Nanny obtained so Casey can work, oops Didn't have a job.

How did unknown person get Caylee from unknown Nanny let alone get into the Anthony household to get items Caylee was found in?

I'm sure they have one for that to. They just can't connect the dots between anything they say. Shards and fragments of accounting for one excuse leaving the other 100 excuses dangling in the wind.

ON and on and on.

[Myka]

A real Pied Piper she is. Who needs a Holy Spirit when you have CINDY :blink: :sneaky:

next thing you know, Cindy will have T shirts for sale with a picture of Casey on the front with the heading Prodigal Daughter

[AlohaRainbow]

With all the sincerity in the world, I wish she would get help. This whole thing is just INSANE, absolutely insane. *snip*
But between the murder and it's apparent circumstances, then add in Baez, and the hand family and you have a six-ring circus. They need to be saved from themselves but I guess people have the right to run their lives into the ditch if they want to. Beats all I ever saw.
ita... but... but... didn't cindy reply to you that her therapist supports her?

IF that's true and if i lived in that area and needed a therapist, i would certainly like to know the name of that therapist... so i can avoid him/her!

[5boxersmom]

You got that right. Everytime he has an excuse for one thing, he can't explain the next. All of his excuses negate another event.

Caylee kidnapped but an "unknown". Well Casey knew the Nanny for YEARS let's talk to the Nanny to find out how this happened. No Nanny.

Nanny was Jeff Hopkins Nanny. Let's call Jeff, oops no Jeff with a son named Zachary.

Nanny obtained so Casey can work, oops Didn't have a job.

How did unknown person get Caylee from unknown Nanny let alone get into the Anthony household to get items Caylee was found in?

I'm sure they have one for that to. They just can't connect the dots between anything they say. Shards and fragments of accounting for one excuse leaving the other 100 excuses dangling in the wind.

ON and on and on.


Yep. Try to explain one thing and then the next thing is :w00t:

Are we suppose to get docs soon?

[Lavinia]

Thanks for posting it Lavinia. Don't feel bad, I think Cindy brings out the worst in most people. As we keep hearing, she and Geo are not "likeable".

Nothing in her response was surprising. She is just living in MAJOR denial.

I just realized I'm waiting for my car dealership to call back with an appointment because when I took my little boy to school this morning, my brakes were weak and my power steering sounds bad. :eek: :chicken: :laugh:

[margaritaville]

That was my first thought, too. But then........ WTH is Cindy doing *practicing* giving Caylee shots? Why even take a needle to her unless it's a real shot. So what is Cindy doing giving Caylee her immunizations? Do RNs normally take home shots?

So maybe it was the other shots?


Wasn't there a syringe w/ a hypodermic needle found in a bottle at the crime scene? Maybe Cindy was showing Casey the correct way to give Caylee shots. And Caylee was learning to take them well...
What was she being injected with though?
moo

[Neffy]

Yep. Try to explain one thing and then the next thing is :w00t:

Are we suppose to get docs soon?

I think we were spoiled with the doc dumps being so timely. I have no idea where they've gone and have to wait until actual court proceedings or Jose's /The Anthony's are in the news blathering.

Tomorrow court so we'll have something new!

[ladeebug565]

Wonder if LE has subpoenaed Holy Cindy's JC Penney credit card record. If not, why not? Seems it would be crucial to the investigation.

Something must be very incriminating on the account for Cindy not to give it up. A normal worried grandparent would say, "look at everything, just find my granddaughter!". It seems to me that Casey may have tried to replace the Winnie the Pooh blanket or went on some other shopping spree (like she did with Amy's checkbook) sometime after 7/16.

[marshmallow]

I've done that at home never in public regarding a serious matter.

When I'm ticked off I call one of the kids the name of their sibling and after I go thru about 3 names I say "whoever you are" (by now they're laughing at me) Whoever you are you know I'm talking to you! :wink:


I started calling my sons Chevor and Trad so that I'd be half right no matter which one I called.

[Lavinia]

ita... but... but... didn't cindy reply to you that her therapist supports her?

IF that's true and if i lived in that area and needed a therapist, i would certainly like to know the name of that therapist... so i can avoid him/her!

You bet, AR. That's specifically why I wrote to her that she would have to get a 'special' therapist that won't let her bulldoze them. It's part of our job (if we have any personal insight) in seeking therapy to avoid seeking out someone who will just rubber-stamp our feelings and opinions. The world is full of those. You need one who will be challenging to your particular personality as well as being empathetic, IMO. It is my understanding though, that to people in denial, it can be a long road to hoe. A therapist shouldn't just hit them over the head with what is obvious to every one else, but *lead* them in the way. Some, many, people are in such denial, they refuse to be led just to be able to hold on to the denial. Cindy still causes me to have mixed feelings. All just my opinion from experience.

[Neffy]

Wonder if LE has subpoenaed Holy Cindy's JC Penney credit card record. If not, why not? Seems it would be crucial to the investigation.

Something must be very incriminating on the account for Cindy not to give it up. A normal worried grandparent would say, "look at everything, just find my granddaughter!". It seems to me that Casey may have tried to replace the Winnie the Pooh blanket or went on some other shopping spree (like she did with Amy's checkbook) sometime after 7/16.

That was infuriating to learn Cindy NEVER mentioned the blanket missing until LE came in DECEMBER with the search warrant for it. Cooperating my foot!

[Myka]

Wasn't there a syringe w/ a hypodermic needle found in a bottle at the crime scene? Maybe Cindy was showing Casey the correct way to give Caylee shots. And Caylee was learning to take them well...
What was she being injected with though?
moo


after reading your post, it made me think if Caylee's medical records will come into play in court? JB could use them to show the jury Casey was a "good mother" ( riiiight) and always took Caylee to dr appointments and dental visits. However, I would like to know who paid for those check ups.

[TunaMelt]

(skooching over to share The Don't Know What to Think bench with TunaMelt and passing TM a piece of chocolate.)

I have never really watched the entire FBI videos. After watching Part 1 & 2 of George's, now I remember why. This family does like to ring their own chimes. George went on for 3 or 4 minutes how all on his very own he started a savings account for Caylee depositing $30 each month.

I have never ran across a family that is so Me, Me, Me!

jmo

Ring their own chimes, lol.
No kidding.
Bang their own drums, blow their own tubas -- whatever. They are a fascinating slice of human (I think) life and behavior.. Sad, it's sure sad, but they have so much to offer in the way of inappropriate behaviors, if I were teaching a sociology and/or psych course, they'd be first under the microscope and in the petri dish. (ew!)

Now I'm going to gratefully accept that place on the :huh: bench next to you, and thank you for the chocolate, it will help, it always does -- and I will be quiet for a while. Bench sitting and chocolate is the best therapy. :wub:

[5boxersmom]

I think we were spoiled with the doc dumps being so timely. I have no idea where they've gone and have to wait until actual court proceedings or Jose's /The Anthony's are in the news blathering.

Tomorrow court so we'll have something new!

Well, they are nothing but leaks from the State anyway. :wink:

[5boxersmom]

So Cindy has a therapist? Wonder where the money for that comes from? :rolleyes: Would they even have any insurance coverage? Since they both don't seem to have jobs. :confused:

[margaritaville]

She gets mail and Jose' should have nothing to do with it. It is her right and it is between her and the correctional institute/federal government. He may tell her what to think of what she gets, but HE can't disallow her mail.


Thank you!!

[msgatorslayer]

So Cindy has a therapist? Wonder where the money for that comes from? :rolleyes: Would they even have any insurance coverage? Since they both don't seem to have jobs. :confused:

Probably from local crime victims resources.

FGS, I feel bad for her therapist, if there really is one. Can you imagine listening to her?:cursing:

[CeruleanBleu]

I have often wondered what was actually in those bottles of "water" she has to slurp down everytime she is being interviewed....moo

I don't think she'd be bold enough to drink in front of anyone, especially when they are in close range. Even Vodka can be smelled on the breath. I honestly do believe that Cindy has a drinking problem, and now since they are rolling in money she probably doesn't drink those cheap wine coolers anymore that Casey spoke about on MS. Her and George are probably popping open the Champagne or Courvoisier every night.

[Neffy]

I started calling my sons Chevor and Trad so that I'd be half right no matter which one I called.

LOL! Yea halfsies come out alot intermingled with their friends names to or whoever is in the group. Tough to be voice of fear when Brarob comes out and Barb, Bob and Brad are laughing at you.

[ladeebug565]

after reading your post, it made me think if Caylee's medical records will come into play in court? JB could use them to show the jury Casey was a "good mother" ( riiiight) and always took Caylee to dr appointments and dental visits. However, I would like to know who paid for those check ups.

I've wondered about that too. I looked at the Universal website and they offer a terrific benefits package to their employees, including health insurance AND child care. If I remember correctly during depo, Cindy said she paid only one of Caylee's medical bills. Neither Cindy or George questioned Casey about benefits from work?

Another thing that bothers me....I'm on a roll today....cell phone bills. The cell phone that Casey used was in Cindy's name, therefore, Cindy could view the bill at any time. First, I can't believe that she didn't question the amount of usage during the day (when Casey should've been working) or in the middle of the night. Secondly, I would think a very busy event planner would be provided a phone by her employer. I know Casey lied about having a second phone provided by Universal, but why wouldn't Cindy question the need for a phone in her name?

[Lavinia]

Thank you!!

YVW, margaritaville.

[Neffy]

She gets mail and Jose' should have nothing to do with it. It is her right and it is between her and the correctional institute/federal government. He may tell her what to think of what she gets, but HE can't disallow her mail.

You know I swear I've seen an interview with Jose saying he screens all of her mail before she recieves it. I have no idea how he does this but again I swear I've heard him state this. Maybe he has Casey trained to hand it over? Or he had Casey request not to recieve mail and to hold if for her attorney to pick up? This was around that fiasco regarding the Anthony's last visit with her.

[KittyMom]

You know I swear I've seen an interview with Jose saying he screens all of her mail before she recieves it. I have no idea how he does this but again I swear I've heard him state this. Maybe he has Casey trained to hand it over? Or he had Casey request not to recieve mail and to hold if for her attorney to pick up? This was around that fiasco regarding the Anthony's last visit with her.

Jose says a lot of things. I don't believe for a minute that the guards hold Casey's mail until its approved by Jose.

[msgatorslayer]

I've wondered about that too. I looked at the Universal website and they offer a terrific benefits package to their employees, including health insurance AND child care. If I remember correctly during depo, Cindy said she paid only one of Caylee's medical bills. Neither Cindy or George questioned Casey about benefits from work?

Another thing that bothers me....I'm on a roll today....cell phone bills. The cell phone that Casey used was in Cindy's name, therefore, Cindy could view the bill at any time. First, I can't believe that she didn't question the amount of usage during the day (when Casey should've been working) or in the middle of the night. Secondly, I would think a very busy event planner would be provided a phone by her employer. I know Casey lied about having a second phone provided by Universal, but why wouldn't Cindy question the need for a phone in her name?

Have you seen her cell bills? In a doc dump there was list of like 4-6 months worth. They were between $300-$500. Cindy is just plain stupid. I honestly don't know how she could even afford to pay them. Not when there are cell programs like Metro PC for $30-$50 flat rate.

They coddled her like she couldn't do anything for herself. They paid for everything.

In the Morgan depos, I liked how George was asked about the frequency of Casey's contribution to the household. He ho-hummed around quite a bit. The bottom line, Casey couldn't buy a gallon of milk with her own money. Let alone help with the household bills.

[Neffy]

Jose says a lot of things. I don't believe for a minute that the guards hold Casey's mail until its approved by Jose.

DOH :punch: bows head in shame for listening to Jose!

[5boxersmom]

She has a therapist? Now there is someone whose job I do not envy, listening to her, for an hour, not enough money in the world. No way, No how!!

Yep no kidding. :biggrin:

[shelkobe]

After reading Cindy's replies to Lavinia and Anakerie I must say, Cindy has self-esteem to spare. The arrogance is incredible.

[5boxersmom]

Have you seen her cell bills? In a doc dump there was list of like 4-6 months worth. They were between $300-$500. Cindy is just plain stupid. I honestly don't know how she could even afford to pay them. Not when there are cell programs like Metro PC for $30-$50 flat rate.

They coddled her like she couldn't do anything for herself. They paid for everything.

In the Morgan depos, I liked how George was asked about the frequency of Casey's contribution to the household. He ho-hummed around quite a bit. The bottom line, Casey couldn't buy a gallon of milk with her own money. Let alone help with the household bills.

Remember Cindy telling Casey at the jail visit she would not have to work when they found Casey and Casey got to come home? That is so funny because Casey hadn't worked for years. :rolleyes:

imo

[Dells]

Remember Cindy telling Casey at the jail visit she would not have to work when they found Casey and Casey got to come home? That is so funny because Casey hadn't worked for years. :rolleyes:

imo

Yes, exactly. It would have been the same old same old. Nothing has changed in that family, even w/Casey murdering Caylee. Very sad.:thumbdown:

[Lavinia]

You know I swear I've seen an interview with Jose saying he screens all of her mail before she recieves it. I have no idea how he does this but again I swear I've heard him state this. Maybe he has Casey trained to hand it over? Or he had Casey request not to recieve mail and to hold if for her attorney to pick up? This was around that fiasco regarding the Anthony's last visit with her.

If she would WANT to, she could save it and give it to him first, I suppose, but that's between her and Josie. The jail has to give it to her. Can you imagine what an attorney could be doing to an inmate's rights if he/she got NO outside visits, calls, and mail? They, the inmate, are in effect in a dungeon as prisoner of the attorney.

Maybe there are exceptions somewhere, but I can't imagine that an inmate has to give up the right to mail (unless while they are in a disciplinary type case and I'm not sure about that).

[Dells]

If she would WANT to, she could save it and give it to him first, I suppose, but that's between her and Josie. The jail has to give it to her. Can you imagine what an attorney could be doing to an inmate's rights if he/she got NO outside visits, calls, and mail? They, the inmate, are in effect in a dungeon as prisoner of the attorney.

Maybe there are exceptions somewhere, but I can't imagine that an inmate has to give up the right to mail (unless while they are in a disciplinary type case and I'm not sure about that).

I think JB has complete and total control of her, and that is scary. She probably willingly handed control over to him because he has somehow promised to get her out of this. I think it is frightening and in the end it will be Casey's undoing, and JB's.

[Lavinia]

I think JB has complete and total control of her, and that is scary. She probably willingly handed control over to him because he has somehow promised to get her out of this. I think it is frightening and in the end it will be Casey's undoing, and JB's.

If so, ITA and ITA! That would be horrendous!

[msgatorslayer]

Remember Cindy telling Casey at the jail visit she would not have to work when they found Casey and Casey got to come home? That is so funny because Casey hadn't worked for years. :rolleyes:

imo

Oh, I wonder if this has to do with her latest revelation on the LK show that Casey may have lied about working to spend more time with Caylee.:thumbsup:

[bchand]

my bold

Oh, good. Now we have the OC, the HC, and the UC (useless creature):laugh:

which of the male As is the UC one?

[GumShoeJoe]

ita... but... but... didn't cindy reply to you that her therapist supports her?

IF that's true and if i lived in that area and needed a therapist, i would certainly like to know the name of that therapist... so i can avoid him/her!

Look at it this way: she is probably not telling the therapist the truth, either.

[5boxersmom]

Oh, I wonder if this has to do with her latest revelation on the LK show that Casey may have lied about working to spend more time with Caylee.:thumbsup:

Did she say that? Wow I missed it.

[bchand]

You know I swear I've seen an interview with Jose saying he screens all of her mail before she recieves it. I have no idea how he does this but again I swear I've heard him state this. Maybe he has Casey trained to hand it over? Or he had Casey request not to recieve mail and to hold if for her attorney to pick up? This was around that fiasco regarding the Anthony's last visit with her.

IIRC Neffy, he said that in reference to the rumor going around that Scott Peterson wrote to her. I recall it also.

[AMS]

:laugh: Does everyone remember how long it took us to hash all those C's out in the beginning? To this day, when I write one of their names I take particular care not to confuse the names because a slip would really be ugly in context. :scared:

CMA, CMA, CMA....kiss, kiss, kiss :sneaky:

imo

[Neffy]

Look at it this way: she is probably not telling the therapist the truth, either.

I can see it now Brad's sitting on her right hand side saying she's not at liberty to answer that :w00t:

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony: At vigil, George says dealing with someone's disappearance is 'sick, open-wound feeling'
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-whats-next-in-the-slander-lawsuit.html

[Xmygrits]

Wasn't there a syringe w/ a hypodermic needle found in a bottle at the crime scene? Maybe Cindy was showing Casey the correct way to give Caylee shots. And Caylee was learning to take them well...
What was she being injected with though?
moo

I personally do not think those items were related to the remains.

I forgot to mention that on my trip in the Suburban woods yesterday I did see a lot of trash that has been disguarded off the side of the road in the woods. PC monitors, plastics, bottles, bricks, lawn debris, clothing, etc. You might be interested to know that the the A's house is in a middle to low class residential community/subdivision. I got a kick out of this when I remembered how Cindy and George have portrayed a persona of an upper crust life style. Totally laughable.

[Dells]

Oh, I wonder if this has to do with her latest revelation on the LK show that Casey may have lied about working to spend more time with Caylee.:thumbsup:

Maybe. But Casey's lies to LE had nothing to do w/spending more time w/Caylee. How could it? At that point in time, Caylee was already missing and murdered, so how exactly did Casey lying about where she worked to LE when they were interviewing her (to help find Caylee I might add) help her spend more time w/Caylee. I could see her lying to George and Cindy about working so that she could spend more time w/Caylee (hee hee, we all know THAT is not true though), but how in the world did her lies to LE aid her in spending more time w/Caylee. LE was trying to locate Caylee then, so all her lying did was help detract LE from finding her, which in the end, if you think about it, would only help Casey in spending less time w/Caylee. Oh, the tangled web they weave w/their lies. They don't even care if they make a bit of sense, all they care about is getting something out of their mouths to dispute the mountain of evidence surrounding their daughter.:sneaky:

[Susie419]

***snipped***

All I can say is WOW! She is really full of herself huh?

************************************************
For Cindy...
Proverb16:5."Everyone that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord:though hand join in hand,he shall not be unpunished."
16:6."By mercy and truth iniquity is purged:and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil."

How great of Cindy to have so many followers that the whole church congregation grew by leaps and bounds following her and her truth, oh, and of course, her example.:tonguewag:

[Tracian]

ita... but... but... didn't cindy reply to you that her therapist supports her?

IF that's true and if i lived in that area and needed a therapist, i would certainly like to know the name of that therapist... so i can avoid him/her!


Well Casey made up 'Zanny the Nanny' Maybe Cindy's made up 'Chris the Therapist'

Just a thought.

[GumShoeJoe]

Lavinia,

Thank you so much for posting that reply. I would not write to a private person in one of these cases, but in an odd way, I am glad you did so we could read the reply! It is insightful. Thank you for posting it.

I can't get over how she launches into how many new members she has brought into the church. What an odd turn of the conversation. I am speechless at the self-centeredness of such a claim. Why bother with those claims/bragging? Why would she tell that to you?

I hope she somehow finds her place in all of this through her church and her faith, but I don't think it has happened yet. No one else seems to be able to get through to her. I have never seen such an annoying, self-centered victim in one of these cases. I don't know how she sleeps at night.

[msgatorslayer]

Did she say that? Wow I missed it.

Yeah, she did. The Anthony's are some seriously borked up people!:cursing:

[Lavinia]

which of the male As is the UC one?

UC Sr. and UC Jr.

[Xmygrits]

Look at it this way: she is probably not telling the therapist the truth, either.

One would have to be living under a rock to not know anything about the Anthony Saga and all of Cynthia's fiascos.

I find it hard to believe any licensed therapist with half a brain could be taken in by her BS. Maybe this therapist also has a lemonade stand selling sessions for .5 with a cold glass of squeeze?

[Neffy]

I personally do not think those items were related to the remains.

I forgot to mention that on my trip in the Suburban woods yesterday I did see a lot of trash that has been disguarded off the side of the road in the woods. PC monitors, plastics, bottles, bricks, lawn debris, clothing, etc. You might be interested to know that the the A's house is in a middle to low class residential community/subdivision. I got a kick out of this when I remembered how Cindy and George have portrayed a persona of an upper crust life style. Totally laughable.

You can't mean it! Say it ain't so! There, there....... REGULAR PEOPLE!!!! Parish the thought!!

[shelkobe]

Remember Cindy telling Casey at the jail visit she would not have to work when they found Casey and Casey got to come home? That is so funny because Casey hadn't worked for years. :rolleyes:

imo
I found that hysterical myself. Casey was probably thinking, "Gee, why didn't you tell me that before?"

[Dells]

Did she say that? Wow I missed it.

Cindy said this during the LKL interview when asked why she thought Casey lied to LE about working at Universal. Wow is right!:ohmy:

[bchand]

UC Sr. and UC Jr.

lol well that's my opinion too. I was just wondering who lizzie was giving the title to.

[msgatorslayer]

I'll bet the big argument around Father's Day had something to do with the subject of Casey and a job, most likely the subject of her actually GETTING one, along with the usual topic of theft, this time from her grandparents. Seeing how things went after that I guess Cindy backed off on the job business.

ITA, Cindy had finally had it. It was okay for the OC to sit around eating pop tarts and stealing from them, but by stealing from Cindy's Mom, AGAIN, that crossed the line.

I think George had been trying to convince Cindy about the problems for some time. That something had to be done. But Cindy just couldn't follow through. I believe this had everything to do with their seperation and near divorce. To many problems with Casey, then Caylee came along. Things didn't change. They only got worse. Casey didn't grow up and take responsibility. Instead, she used Caylee as a pawn to get even more of what she wanted.

[Dells]

Casey Anthony: At vigil, George says dealing with someone's disappearance is 'sick, open-wound feeling'
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-whats-next-in-the-slander-lawsuit.html

Thanks for the link. :seeya:

I am sure it is, George, it is right up there w/having your own daughter murder their own child.

[bchand]

One would have to be living under a rock to not know anything about the Anthony Saga and all of Cynthia's fiascos.

I find it hard to believe any licensed therapist with half a brain could be taken in by her BS. Maybe this therapist also has a lemonade stand selling sessions for .5 with a cold glass of squeeze?

If they know anything at all about the Anthony's, they should assume their bills will never be paid also.

[Xmygrits]

You can't mean it! Say it ain't so! There, there....... REGULAR PEOPLE!!!! Parish the thought!!

OK, I will definately say it ain't so!!! They are so far from regular, it taint funny!

(to steal from Dick)

KING: Wierd!

[5boxersmom]

I'll bet the big argument around Father's Day had something to do with the subject of Casey and a job, most likely the subject of her actually GETTING one, along with the usual topic of theft, this time from her grandparents. Seeing how things went after that I guess Cindy backed off on the job business.

Probably. Didn't work out so well for Caylee. :sneaky:

[Lavinia]

Lavinia,

Thank you so much for posting that reply. I would not write to a private person in one of these cases, but in an odd way, I am glad you did so we could read the reply! It is insightful. Thank you for posting it.

I can't get over how she launches into how many new members she has brought into the church. What an odd turn of the conversation. I am speechless at the self-centeredness of such a claim. Why bother with those claims/bragging? Why would she tell that to you?

I hope she somehow finds her place in all of this through her church and her faith, but I don't think it has happened yet. No one else seems to be able to get through to her. I have never seen such an annoying, self-centered victim in one of these cases. I don't know how she sleeps at night.

You're welcome Joe. I don't know GSJ, my guess is she's just trying to justify everything. Everything her daughter has done which refelct on her and everything she is doing. It's sick, sick, sick. I *still* go back and forth between revulsion and pity with her. I sometimes think she's reacting out of a profound, intractable panic and that makes me feel very bad.

[Xmygrits]

Cindy's therapy sessions are the ones where the kleenex are next to the therapist not the client.

*snort* New keyboard!

[Dells]

I found that hysterical myself. Casey was probably thinking, "Gee, why didn't you tell me that before?"

So true! She wouldn't have had to go through all the trouble of murdering Caylee then. :sneaky:

[5boxersmom]

Cindy said this during the LKL interview when asked why she thought Casey lied to LE about working at Universal. Wow is right!:ohmy:

Cindy wants everyone to believe they were the perfect family and Casey loved Caylee and I just do not think that is true. Poor Caylee.

imo

[Lavinia]

lol well that's my opinion too. I was just wondering who lizzie was giving the title to.

LOL. :laugh:

[Dells]

If they know anything at all about the Anthony's, they should assume their bills will never be paid also.

Maybe Cindy's therapist is working pro bono. :sneaky:

[Neffy]

Cindy's therapy sessions are the ones where the kleenex are next to the therapist not the client.

:laugh::laugh:

[Lavinia]

Maybe Cindy's therapist is working pro bono. :sneaky:

Just like everyone else, whether they know it yet or not? :lol:

[Neffy]

Maybe Cindy's therapist is working pro bono. :sneaky:

:lol: Is there any thing else! I'd like to be privy on that pro bono mortgage lender :sneaky:

[Katprint]

Look at it this way: she is probably not telling the therapist the truth, either.
How many therapists does it take to change a lightbulb? Only one, but the lightbulb really has to WANT to change

Casey is happy with herself the way she is and thus has no motive to be truthful to her therapist who should not be violating his/her professional obligation to protect patient confidentiality by discussing an adult patient's treatment with the patient's mother! Actually, I doubt the therapist actually said that to Cindy. More likely, Casey told Baez to tell Cindy that Casey's therapist told Casey that Casey's therapist supports Casey. (It got a little bit awkward trying not to use the word "her" in a sentence referring to 2-3 different women LOL.) Equally likely, Cindy made the whole thing up.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[crimeq]

Well, who's to say what the number of the congregation was before she joined. There may be 3 members now. :wink:

(How will she know when her God is speaking to her when she won't shut up?)

Attending or joining a church is a personal decision -- Cindy couldn't have made that decision for all these new people -- they had to make it themselves. Her claim is ludicrous; once again, it's all about Cindy.

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy wants everyone to believe they were the perfect family and Casey loved Caylee and I just do not think that is true. Poor Caylee.

imo

I wouldn't put it past the OC to have formulated a plan to get preggers on purpose in order to mooch off her parents for eternity.

Caylee was a meal ticket for Casey! She loved that. IMO

[Xmygrits]

Don't dis Lucy!! She'd set Cindy straight in a heartbeat!!

Oh yeah, my bad, you're right!

[Lavinia]

Attending or joining a church is a personal decision -- Cindy couldn't have made that decision for all these new people -- they had to make it themselves. Her claim is ludicrous; once again, it's all about Cindy.

That is rather rude, huh? To attribute someone else's spiritual journey to yourself? Gah.

[msgatorslayer]

I think Cindy compounded the problem also by covering for Casey with George, she undermined George's authority (what little he had) over Casey and worked in concert with her to keep some of Casey's transgressions hidden from him. But by doing so she also weakened what little discipline or control she had and Casey took full advantage and ran with it.

ITA - Cindy was the family bread winner and knew the finances. She could easily conceal from George that Casey wasn't working.

She probably had excuses when George would say coin was missing from Caylee's piggy. "Oh, I had to take our comforters to the laundromat. I did it"

[crimeq]

I noticed on myfoxorlando this morning that they have some of the vigil from last night on there.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

I just can't for the life of me figure that the A's can insert themselves on another family that truly has a missing child. Also I do believe that this is why the Haleigh case is now on the D & A website. http://dgator.com/default.aspx I wonder if DC is giving the A's a commission for every new case that they (the A's) bring to him?

At one point in the video, Crystal was chomping on gum. I wonder if Cindy gave it to her.

[Neffy]

That is rather rude, huh? To attribute someone else's spiritual journey to yourself? Gah.

This is one disturbing thought! Thinking Jim Jones, Hale bop "riders" etc.

[Xmygrits]

That is rather rude, huh? To attribute someone else's spiritual journey to yourself? Gah.

It borderlines some serious blasphemy if you ask me.

[GumShoeJoe]

Casey Anthony: At vigil, George says dealing with someone's disappearance is 'sick, open-wound feeling'
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-whats-next-in-the-slander-lawsuit.html

Something about their comments about helping other victims families really bugs me: this "never give up hope" stuff. They are not the right people to be delivering this message. I cannot imagine it helps.

You know, if they find your loved one murdered and in trash bags in the woods, it might be time to give up hope.

I envision everyone they preach this too cringing and thinking: "wow, your poor grandaughter is dead even though you didn't give up hope."

They need a different message. What optimism can they deliver? Denial?

[Dick Tracy]

Was it ever determined if the check she wrote (I think off Shirley Plesea's account, but it might have been off Amy's) was for her bill or was it for a new phone?

I've wondered that myself. When she started hanging with TL, he always used a blackberry..

Suddenly, on 7/16 at 06:50am in the morning, he's texting the SOC questions, and she's texting him back.....


On a blackberry.

[5boxersmom]

Wonder why they went to the vigil for Haleigh and not the one for Trenton? I thought they were close with Josh Trenton.

[5boxersmom]

I've wondered that myself. When she started hanging with TL, he always used a blackberry..

Suddenly, on 7/16 at 06:50am in the morning, he's texting the SOC questions, and she's texting him back.....


On a blackberry.

How can you tell it is a blackberry?

[crimeq]

I was afraid my name might come up. I have a dog:ohmy:

Be glad :wink: That's evidence that you exist :lol:

[ttcRider]

I'm not too worried about a jury finding her not guilty. If I was living on another planet and was hearing this story for the first time I would find her guilty. Heck, you don't even have to show me any videos! I don't even need to 'meet' George and Cindy!! :lol:

[*MoonRider*]

Oh yeah, my bad, you're right!

Sorry, I didn't answer you earlier RL got in the way. Still no rain here in Key Largo, but it's coming. :thumbsup:

[margaritaville]

Something about their comments about helping other victims families really bugs me: this "never give up hope" stuff. They are not the right people to be delivering this message. I cannot imagine it helps.

You know, if they find your loved one murdered and in trash bags in the woods, it might be time to give up hope.

I envision everyone they preach this too cringing and thinking: "wow, your poor grandaughter is dead even though you didn't give up hope."

They need a different message. What optimism can they deliver? Denial?


Okay not sticking up for the Ants here but i do want to say one thing..

For a moment or a minute (Casey's little saying) they elder Ants believed their grandaughter had been taken and was offically "missing" in their eyes........So they do know that feeling.....

If anyone here has ever lost or misplaced their keys or cell phone, you will know EXACTLY how they felt when they found out Caylee was missing.......(from the LKL interview, CA)

[Dick Tracy]

How can you tell it is a blackberry?

The default signature with a Blackberry will say something "sent by T-Mobile Blackberry' or sent by AT&T Mobile Blackberry..

If you look at the conversation, you'll see every message sent from her ends that way.

That's the key.

[crimeq]

This is exactly my feeling. This is really selfish on the Anthony's behalf as they're interjecting it's all about Caylee to a family with a missing or murdered child. First and foremost is CAYLEE is the constant theme.

They can't be second or ever put themselves on the back burner. EVER.

Heck these people think they've DISCOVERED a new "club" and are the forerunners of bringing this to national attention. It's unbelievable!

First and foremost is the Caylee Marie Anthony FUNDATION $$$, because they have the website address on the bear shirts beneath Caylee's name. Those bears are advertising promo items to drive $$$ donations to the website.

[Xmygrits]

Sorry, I didn't answer you earlier RL got in the way. Still no rain here in Key Largo, but it's coming. :thumbsup:
O/T
Yippee for the rain! I'm a native and I've never been to KL...but I wanna someday.

And to get myself back on topic: I think in a few weeks I'll do another "drive by" and check the water level in that wetland on Suburban.

[msgatorslayer]

Wonder why they went to the vigil for Haleigh and not the one for Trenton? I thought they were close with Josh Trenton.

Dunno, but IMO, the Duckett case is to similar to the Anthony's in that both the prime suspects are the mothers.

You'd think that the Anthony's would snuggle up to Josh more than Haleigh's family cause they have alot in common. Josh doesn't believe that Melinda harmed Trenton just as the Anthony's don't think Casey caused a terminal event to Caylee.

[*MoonRider*]

O/T
Yippee! I'm a native and I've never been to KL...but I wanna someday.

And to get myself back on topic: I think in a few weeks I'll do another "drive by" and check the water level in that wetland on Suburban.From the looks of the radar it might be underwater already. Please keep us posted.

[*MoonRider*]

Dunno, but IMO, the Duckett case is to similar to the Anthony's in that both the prime suspects are the mothers.

You'd think that the Anthony's would snuggle up to Josh more than Haleigh's family cause they have alot in common. Josh doesn't believe that Melinda harmed Trenton just as the Anthony's don't think Casey caused a terminal event to Caylee.

I always hated the phrase "terminal event". I did notice that C & G are using Caylee's tragedy now instead of murder.:sad:

[5boxersmom]

Dunno, but IMO, the Duckett case is to similar to the Anthony's in that both the prime suspects are the mothers.

You'd think that the Anthony's would snuggle up to Josh more than Haleigh's family cause they have alot in common. Josh doesn't believe that Melinda harmed Trenton just as the Anthony's don't think Casey caused a terminal event to Caylee.

Now that I thought about it there was probably more press at Haleighs vigil. Interesting, I didn't know that about JD.


imo

[msgatorslayer]

O/T
Yippee for the rain! I'm a native and I've never been to KL...but I wanna someday.

And to get myself back on topic: I think in a few weeks I'll do another "drive by" and check the water level in that wetland on Suburban.

I was thinking the same thing. Go for it. And report back. This rain we're having is tropical looking on radar. It's spinning and looping around the state. There have been reports of flooding in the Tampa area.

[5boxersmom]

The default signature with a Blackberry will say something "sent by T-Mobile Blackberry' or sent by AT&T Mobile Blackberry..

If you look at the conversation, you'll see every message sent from her ends that way.

That's the key.

Thanks

Never heard of her having a blackberry. I think it was a blackjack that is suppose to be missing. Wasn't her "other" phone a Nokia?

[Jute]

:lol: Does that woman hear what she says? Does she read what writes?

If I was a member of her church, me thinks I would find a new one!

:tongue:

Hey Tracian :wub:

[ttcRider]

Now that I thought about it there was probably more press at Haleighs vigil. Interesting, I didn't know that about JD.


imo

I didn't either, I always thought he thought Melinda was guilty. :sad:

[msgatorslayer]

Now that I thought about it there was probably more press at Haleighs vigil. Interesting, I didn't know that about JD.


imo

Ah, yes, press. Haleigh's case is still new and cameras are following. Another cameo for Cindy.

I don't know how good of friends Cindy is with Josh. I just remember him coming down and lending a shoulder in the early days. And that his number is programmed on Cindy's phone.

Yes, unless things have changed, he never believed that Melinda would harm Trenton. He thinks she gave him to someone.

[Tia]

Okay not sticking up for the Ants here but i do want to say one thing..

For a moment or a minute (Casey's little saying) they elder Ants believed their grandaughter had been taken and was offically "missing" in their eyes........So they do know that feeling.....

If anyone here has ever lost or misplaced their keys or cell phone, you will know EXACTLY how they felt when they found out Caylee was missing.......(from the LKL interview, CA)

But they know now that Caylee wasn't missing, she was murdered and thrown onto the side of the road.

And how could Cindy equate losing her keys or cell phone to losing a child?? So, no, I really don't think that they do know the feeling-not if to them its the same as losing keys.

I can see them wanting to do something, but they need to take their little foundation in another direction IMO.

[GumShoeJoe]

Okay not sticking up for the Ants here but i do want to say one thing..

For a moment or a minute (Casey's little saying) they elder Ants believed their grandaughter had been taken and was offically "missing" in their eyes........So they do know that feeling.....

If anyone here has ever lost or misplaced their keys or cell phone, you will know EXACTLY how they felt when they found out Caylee was missing.......(from the LKL interview, CA)


Oh, I do not disagree with you, and I think they know that terror, and the desire to keep hope alive. Lord knows, anyone in that situation would need that.

My issue is now, after the fact, and with all the publicity they have received, it does not seem to be a good message from their experience, imo. It would scare the wits out of me, knowing how horribly their tragedy turned out, even after keeping hope alive.

[desmom]

Was it ever determined if the check she wrote (I think off Shirley Plesea's account, but it might have been off Amy's) was for her bill or was it for a new phone?

I had to remember where I saw the text message..

page 23 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-012

7/15/08 18:30:44 (GMT-4) Incoming "AT&T FREE Msg: Pmt conf. ######. Bank Acct debit authorized $574.60 on 7/15/08 and successfully posted to Acct #.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0908oct09,0,5965090.story
On July 15 -- before Caylee was reported missing -- Anthony went to a Bank of America branch and withdrew $250 from Huizenga's checking account by making a check out to herself. She also attempted to pay a $574 AT&T cell-phone bill, but there wasn't enough money left in Huizenga's account.

[Xmygrits]

I was thinking the same thing. Go for it. And report back. This rain we're having is tropical looking on radar. It's spinning and looping around the state. There have been reports of flooding in the Tampa area.

OK, will do. Lately, the weather here in FL is like my office. I either freeze or fry, no happy medium. Drought with forest fires or swimming to your parked car.

[Dells]

Be glad :wink: That's evidence that you exist :lol:

LOL! So it's not "I think, therefore I am" it's "I have a dog, therefore I am", huh?:tongue:

[Dells]

I always hated the phrase "terminal event". I did notice that C & G are using Caylee's tragedy now instead of murder.:sad:

Yeah, I noticed that too. They were using "Caylee's tragedy" on their interview on LKL. Caylee's real tragedy was having Casey for a mother.

[Zarina]

I've wondered that myself. When she started hanging with TL, he always used a blackberry..

Suddenly, on 7/16 at 06:50am in the morning, he's texting the SOC questions, and she's texting him back.....


On a blackberry.

Didn't Casey say her phone was a Black Jack? Not blackberry ?

[Jute]

Thanks

Never heard of her having a blackberry. I think it was a blackjack that is suppose to be missing. Wasn't her "other" phone a Nokia?

She did say she lost her Blackjack, not Blackberry. I'm not sure whether it was Shirley Plesea's or Amy's money she was using to pay her cell bill, but IIRC, the payment was stopped because the owner of the money caught it in time. The bill she was trying to pay was for $350.00+ - I would think that someone who uses her cell as much as she does would have a plan with endless minutes; maybe she was buying a Blackberry? :blink: Jeesh - another fib.:rolleyes:

[bchand]

O/T
Yippee for the rain! I'm a native and I've never been to KL...but I wanna someday.

And to get myself back on topic: I think in a few weeks I'll do another "drive by" and check the water level in that wetland on Suburban.

Just want to let you know that you are really appreciated for sharing this info with us.

Do you know if the property is sold yet?

[crimeq]

Apparently they can't remember her name. Hence the push to "keep her memory alive" now.

Too many "C" names to remember, as Larry King said. :wink:

[bchand]

Didn't Casey say her phone was a Black Jack? Not blackberry ?

Yes, she said blackjack.

Tony was also curious as to why they were texting rather than talking on the phone. Apparently she initiated that. (My guess would be that she wanted to be sure no one in the house would hear her.)

[Zarina]

Yes, she said blackjack.

Tony was also curious as to why they were texting rather than talking on the phone. Apparently she initiated that. (My guess would be that she wanted to be sure no one in the house would hear her.)

You hit that nail on the head !

[desmom]

I've wondered that myself. When she started hanging with TL, he always used a blackberry..

Suddenly, on 7/16 at 06:50am in the morning, he's texting the SOC questions, and she's texting him back.....


On a blackberry.

Hmmm, I have to think on this one.

LE picked up Casey's phone from Tone's apt before Lee arrived at Tone's at 12:30 on 7/16.

The text messages listed on page 42 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811058/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-007 are in email form time stamped Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05 p.m. I thought the "Sent via Blackberry by AT&T" was because Tone sent them to Yuri via email, but I am techie challenged.


:shrug:

[crimeq]

You know I swear I've seen an interview with Jose saying he screens all of her mail before she recieves it. I have no idea how he does this but again I swear I've heard him state this. Maybe he has Casey trained to hand it over? Or he had Casey request not to recieve mail and to hold if for her attorney to pick up? This was around that fiasco regarding the Anthony's last visit with her.

Neffy, I remember that too, and agree that it would have to be with Casey's consent. Why would she consent to have her mail reviewed and censored by Jose?

I also remember Jose saying that Casey gets "hundreds" of letters. I predict that many are hate-filled, and perhaps that's how Jose gets to intervene--by telling her he's protecting her against the hate mail. Of course, with that in place, he could cull out any mail that was unflattering to him, told too much about the case on the outside, other than what he tells Casey, etc. I believe Jose wants to prevent Casey from thinking for herself about the case, right now. He wants to do all the thinking and leading.

[Dells]

I have 9. Am I schitzophrenic?

:laugh:.......

[Xmygrits]

Just want to let you know that you are really appreciated for sharing this info with us.

Do you know if the property is sold yet?

YW. It is still on the market. I saw the "for sale sign" towards the back of the property, farther down the road from where the Caylee memorial is. Speaking of the memorial...There is one very large mound of wet stuffed animals. It is a very sad symbolic reminder in a way.

[Dick Tracy]

Yes, she said blackjack.

Tony was also curious as to why they were texting rather than talking on the phone. Apparently she initiated that. (My guess would be that she wanted to be sure no one in the house would hear her.)

She said she had a blackjack.. Yes...

But on 7/16/08 at 0650am she's now using a BLACKBERRY TO TEXT WITH.

It's in the documents somewhere.

That might explain that huge 574.00 bill to AT&T on the 15th.

Nevertheless, on 7/16 she is TEXTING WITH A BLACKBERRY.

[amchess]

We have had flooding in Tampa, but it's in areas where it floods anyway - especially some intersections and streets. You learn which streets to avoid. I am crossing my fingers that if the trial is moved, it comes here. I'd go watch it.

[bchand]

Also, much easier to lie in a text, easier to pretend you are not there if you don't want to answer, easier to delay answering til you have time to think of an answer and of course no one can hear you. She took great pains to not be overheard (always going outside to take Cindy's calls)

You're right. Even Cindy was astute enough (did I say that?) to realize that was the reason Casey was texting her rather than calling her right before she was caught.

[bchand]

Hmmm, I have to think on this one.

LE picked up Casey's phone from Tone's apt before Lee arrived at Tone's at 12:30 on 7/16.

The text messages listed on page 42 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811058/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-007 are in email form time stamped Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05 p.m. I thought the "Sent via Blackberry by AT&T" was because Tone sent them to Yuri via email, but I am techie challenged.


:shrug:

Makes sense to me des.

[Dick Tracy]

Hmmm, I have to think on this one.

LE picked up Casey's phone from Tone's apt before Lee arrived at Tone's at 12:30 on 7/16.

The text messages listed on page 42 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811058/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-007 are in email form time stamped Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05 p.m. I thought the "Sent via Blackberry by AT&T" was because Tone sent them to Yuri via email, but I am techie challenged.


:shrug:

No....on each snippet of conversation originating from her phone, the signature reads "Sent via Blackberry by AT&T"

MOO MOO

[AMS]

I have 9. Am I schitzophrenic?

Yep. And we love ALL of you...all nine. :wink:

[msgatorslayer]

Casey was a big part of Cindy and George's near divorce (per George), Cindy was anxious to keep the peace between herself and George which meant keeping the peace between Casey and George. I think she took great pains to avoid confrontations between them even when it resulted in covering for or being a part of Casey's lies and thievery.

If it wasn't for the mess this family is in right now, and the fact a 2 yo has been murdered, the Anthony's would actual have some peace and quiet with Casey gone.

I imagine there was alot of walking on egg shells in that household when Casey was around.

[desmom]

Wonder why they went to the vigil for Haleigh and not the one for Trenton? I thought they were close with Josh Trenton.

Was there any media at the National Vigil of Hope in Leesburg? jmo

[Zarina]

Hmmm, I have to think on this one.

LE picked up Casey's phone from Tone's apt before Lee arrived at Tone's at 12:30 on 7/16.

The text messages listed on page 42 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811058/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-007 are in email form time stamped Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05 p.m. I thought the "Sent via Blackberry by AT&T" was because Tone sent them to Yuri via email, but I am techie challenged.


:shrug:

In those docs, looks like Casey & Tony both had blackberry.

[5boxersmom]

Was there any media at the National Vigil of Hope in Leesburg? jmo

Not that I saw. Has anyone said if the vigil in Oregon, I think that is where it was at, was done? I remember the MB vigils and no one could find the others she was saying were going on back last fall.

imo

[Lavinia]

YW. It is still on the market. I saw the "for sale sign" towards the back of the property, farther down the road from where the Caylee memorial is. Speaking of the memorial...There is one very large mound of wet stuffed animals. It is a very sad symbolic reminder in a way.

Oh my, those stuffed animals are just sitting there? That's not good. Do you know if it's on the easement or the private property owner's property? Seems to me, the time has come.

[Dick Tracy]

In those docs, looks like Casey & Tony both had blackberry.

Zarina!

That's my interpretation of it. I just tried to email to an another account a sample text message that I sent out as a test, and I don't think I can.

[AMS]

Awwwww:wub: (you haven't met them all, one is cranky)

O/T
I am sure a cranky lizzie personality is better than my PMSing 17 year old daughter who is grounded!!!

imo

[bchand]

Oh my, those stuffed animals are just sitting there? That's not good. Do you know if it's on the easement or the private property owner's property? Seems to me, the time has come.

That's really sad that they're sitting there getting ruined.

Guess no one has bid high enough for the property yet.

[*MoonRider*]

Caylee Myspace update http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=122459029&blogId=489773301
Effective June 1, 2009 Caylee’s Official Myspace site will be taken down, please become familiar with the new Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website at www.cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net – any news, updates, and events will begin being posted there.

[Xmygrits]

Oh my, those stuffed animals are just sitting there? That's not good. Do you know if it's on the easement or the private property owner's property? Seems to me, the time has come.

Partially on both sides. Mostly on the utility easement. It has lost it's shine. I wonder who is going to be brave enough to remove it?

edit to add my good night all! I gotta try and paddle home. Be safe!

[AMS]

Caylee Myspace update http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=122459029&blogId=489773301
Effective June 1, 2009 Caylee’s Official Myspace site will be taken down, please become familiar with the new Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website at www.cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net – any news, updates, and events will begin being posted there.

Maybe Cindy realized MySpace was a BLOG. God forbid Cindy is associated with a BLOG. That would make her...a BLOGGER. Yikes!!

imo

[Lavinia]

That's really sad that they're sitting there getting ruined.

Guess no one has bid high enough for the property yet.

Can't the owner or the city clean that up? That sounds awful.

[*MoonRider*]

Partially on both sides. Mostly on the utility easement. It has lost it's shine. I wonder who is going to be brave enough to remove it?

edit to add my good night all! I gotta try and paddle home. Be safe!

Lee is quite accomplished at removing memorials.

[Lavinia]

Partially on both sides. Mostly on the utility easement. It has lost it's shine. I wonder who is going to be brave enough to remove it?

edit to add my good night all! I gotta try and paddle home. Be safe!

Good night. I hope your rain brings you the same wonderful weather it brought us in Texas Sat./Sun. It's *gorgeous* and mild today.

I hope the memorial is removed soon.

[*MoonRider*]

Richard Cain - the deputy that blew off the Caylee tip in August - resigned today. He elected not to fight his firing.
http://twitter.com/OSCaseyAnthony

[True2Blues]

Lee is quite accomplished at removing memorials.

Signs get the better of him though.

[bchand]

i think tonE sent his messages by Blackberry, Casey by SMS (a regualr cellphone)

<<<snipped>>>

.

I agree. She talked about her Nokia and the SMS. I "think" the BlackJack is the one she claimed was stolen?

[bchand]

Richard Cain - the deputy that blew off the Caylee tip in August - resigned today. He elected not to fight his firing.
http://twitter.com/OSCaseyAnthony

Thanks MoonRider. I was just reading that he was due to fight this tomorrow.

More collateral damage from Casey Anthony, although I think he handled his part of the story very badly.

[apothecary]

I keep swinging back and forth b/n George knowing or discovering Caylee at that meeting with Casey June 24th and George not discovering anything but being so close to finding the body.If he did he would have done a better job of disposing of the body and evidence ,but other times I think he had to know something July 4th weekend.Maybe he suspected something altho had no concrete proof and they decided to "clean" up the backyard in case there was some evidence.In my opinion something happened that June 24,or whatever day George confronted Casey b/c possibly even that date was fabricated to throw LE off.July 3 Cindy posted her thing about Caylee missing,Lee went looking forCasey,Casey tells Jesse not to talk to her parents,and I think Cindy was to meet Casey at the parking lot at Universal.Things were starting to look suspicious at this time and that was even before the car was abandonned.Then July 15 all hell broke loose........

[*MoonRider*]

Thanks MoonRider. I was just reading that he was due to fight this tomorrow.

More collateral damage from Casey Anthony, although I think he handled his part of the story very badly.

Resignation letter.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19496384/detail.html

[bluwaters]

Car was abandoned on June 27, IIRC

[iluvmua]

Any doc dumps?

[Lavinia]

Orange County Fl. man tried to use duct tape during abduction of 4 year old girl.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html

[*MoonRider*]

Any doc dumps?

Nope, but I don't ever remember a time that el grande Jose hasn't uttered a word for days. I'm guessing he can't find a DP qualified attorney who will work with him. moo

[desmom]

Orange County Fl. man tried to use duct tape during abduction of 4 year old girl.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html

Jose may try to use this, but it will not explain Casey's 31 days of silence. jmo

[apothecary]

If it wasn't for the mess this family is in right now, and the fact a 2 yo has been murdered, the Anthony's would actual have some peace and quiet with Casey gone.

I imagine there was alot of walking on egg shells in that household when Casey was around.
I often wonder what would have been the A's reaction if they smelled the decomp in the car and they knew for sure that Caylee was alive with them.I bet it would have been a lot different.Maybe Casey's disappearance would have never been reported.Just a thought.

[Lavinia]

Jose may try to use this, but it will not explain Casey's 31 days of silence. jmo

Because this guy, this friend of Zanny's, told her he would hurt her family. :rolleyes:

[Tracian]

:tongue:

Hey Tracian :wub:


Hey sweetie!!! Nice to see you here!!!:wub:

[Anakerie]

Nope, but I don't ever remember a time that el grande Jose hasn't uttered a word for days. I'm guessing he can't find a DP qualified attorney who will work with him. moo
Maybe Jose is having trouble convincing a DP qualified attorney to take the "back seat" and let Jose continue running the "show"....

[bluwaters]

Jose may try to use this, but it will not explain Casey's 31 days of silence. jmo
Plus, as far as we know, there is absolutely no evidence to connect this perp to Caylee.
Duct tape in and of itself is not such an unusual item for a perp to use.
Still, I won't be surprised if someone from Team Casey isn't going nuts over how to spin this...
jmho

[desmom]

Because this guy, this friend of Zanny's, told her he would hurt her family. :rolleyes:

Sorry, I still don't buy it. I don't care who the nutcase was threatening....

1. I would not need a phone to call 911 because they would hear my screams.

2. I would not be able to function just "knowing" what he could be doing to my 2 year old daughter.

3. I sure the heck would not be clubbing, getting a new tattoo, manicure and shopping.

jmo

[*MoonRider*]

Maybe Jose is having trouble convincing a DP qualified attorney to take the "back seat" and let Jose continue running the "show"....
I agree, in addition he doesn't want to share the wealth. According to the Orlando Sentinel he doesn't like to pay his bills.

[bluwaters]

Maybe Jose is having trouble convincing a DP qualified attorney to take the "back seat" and let Jose continue running the "show"....
Ya think? :rolling santa:
Who, oh who, will be the new member of the defense team?
A DP qualified attorney who cannot even consider the fact that maybe Casey is guilty.
Lennamon is not accustomed to fighting for an acquittal.
I don't think most DP qualified lawyers are.
They are concerned with the fate of the accused.
When the state goes for the DP, chances are slim that the defendant is not guilty.

* I am well aware that many people are incarcerated for crimes they did not commit.
I also know that innocent people are sometimes executed for crimes they did not commit.
Personally, I oppose the DP.
It is also my personal belief that Casey A is guilty as sin and she will not walk away from a conviction.
Whether or not she will be sentenced to death is, imo, the big question.*

[Dick Tracy]

I agree. She talked about her Nokia and the SMS. I "think" the BlackJack is the one she claimed was stolen?

I think she purchased a Blackberry so she could look important in TL's eyes.

Amazing to me, that this guy never had a clue about her deceptivness, and her ways.

[Dick Tracy]

Exactly, Lavinia. Then she had to go out partying to throw everyone off track, make sure no-one suspected she was the slightest bit worried when in fact, she was probably so frushtrated she couldn't swallow. I feel for her.

HUH? :w00t:

[bluwaters]

I think she purchased a Blackberry so she could look important in TL's eyes.

Amazing to me, that this guy never had a clue about her deceptivness, and her ways.

I think that many of Orlando's young adults who had any contact with Casey have probably grown up a lot.

[Lavinia]

Sorry, I still don't buy it. I don't care who the nutcase was threatening....

1. I would not need a phone to call 911 because they would hear my screams.

2. I would not be able to function just "knowing" what he could be doing to my 2 year old daughter.

3. I sure the heck would not be clubbing, getting a new tattoo, manicure and shopping.

jmo

Oh PUH-LEASE don't EVER mistake me for someone who didn't think from day 31 that the OC did this, premeditated. I'm just looking for possibilities for Jose' to latch on to. He HAS to find something. I guess, lol.

[Pruddennce]

LOL... I didn't think I was that nice to her... You should have seen the first draft of that open letter... lol.. Like I told her in my response, the things I said to her in that letter would probably have been similar to what I would say to a friend if I saw that friend screwing things up as badly as the Anthonys have. Well... Maybe. With a friend, I might have been a bit more blunt. I was surprised at the venom in her repsonse to me. And now, comparing the response I got to the one you got, it makes me wonder about Cindy... Does she swing back and forth that much with her emotions? IMO, the woman needs to get help for herself before she tries "helping" someone else.

hi Anakerie,

review the first jailhouse call between Casey and Cindy. Therein you will see WHO Cindy is. and Casey. the line is blurred. they are two psychopaths. and we all know by now psychopaths do not live in the same world we do. Cindy is vindictive, manipulative, arrogant, and thinks she too has the gift of gab like her daughter. they do not possess that gift. their lips move, words come out, but they are nonsensical:

Casey: anyone with any information, she tells Lee, please tell the public to come forward WITHOUT haste. her and her mother tend to use words to inflate their message, but they have a poor command of the english language AND poor methods of communicating...which usually is the case with liars.

Cindy brings the conversation back to herself continually (ME ME ME), while insulting the receiver of her dialogue. you were a recipient of that verbal assault while she shifts back to her false sentiments of appreciation....

Cindy will go down in history as the most disturbed family member of a missing child ever to grace the airwaves. America's newsroom got her # and slammed her: and it was well deserved given the fact this was 6 days later: at that time, she was full of hate and arrogance for those that dared to ask "why didnt she report Caylee missing if she was supposedly abducted.......'

Cindy puts the knife in and twists it, all the while uttering what she deems an expression of endearment: eg, Jailhouse Call..... you dont address someone as sweetheart when you are telling them its THEIR FAULT FOR LYING. then she shifts to talk of her celebrity status in front of the camera....and notice how Casey references her media appearances: with jealousy and disdain.

all the while, a beloved toddler is supposedly 'missing' and these two are doing what they do best, engaging in psycho vs psycho antics.

Cindy 'reached out' to a number of casey's peers to advise them she was a thief and a liar. she didnt DREAM that those people would tell the truth as to 'what she told them'....unfortunately for the anthonys, their 'bubble house' was penetrated...there was a breach....all of them are unable to maintian relationships in the 'real world'.....hence, from the onset, there was no 'adult peers' standing by their side, no family, no friends.

they 'acquired' new friends who are just as nefarious as they are. no surprise there.

I know you are not fooled.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Dick Tracy]

I think that many of Orlando's young adults who had any contact with Casey have probably grown up a lot.

Prolly so.... I tell you what, anyone who stole money from me, and then denied it or tried to explain it a way to something stupid like I was sleepwalking with it - they wouldn't be my friend after that. Doesn't matter if it's $5.00 or $50.00, or $500.00...

Some of today's youth - just make me shake my head. I suppose my parents did that also. They thought the Beatles on Ed Sullivan was too loud!!!!!!!!

Generation gaps..

[desmom]

Oh PUH-LEASE don't EVER mistake me for someone who didn't think from day 31 that the OC did this, premeditated. I'm just looking for possibilities for Jose' to latch on to. He HAS to find something. I guess, lol.

Oh I don't. I guess I should have put the :tonguewag: at the end of my post. Sorry.

I am sure JB is looking at every child crime he can find in the central FL area looking for a scapegoat to get his girl off. jmo

[Lavinia]

Exactly, Lavinia. Then she had to go out partying to throw everyone off track, make sure no-one suspected she was the slightest bit worried when in fact, she was probably so frushtrated she couldn't swallow. I feel for her.

We can see if Jerry Lewis can throw a telethon for Odious Creatures this year.

[Lavinia]

Oh I don't. I guess I should have put the :tonguewag: at the end of my post. Sorry.

I am sure JB is looking at every child crime he can find in the central FL area looking for a scapegoat to get his girl off. jmo

Good, you were about to make me barf! :tonguewag:

[*MoonRider*]

Oh PUH-LEASE don't EVER mistake me for someone who didn't think from day 31 that the OC did this, premeditated. I'm just looking for possibilities for Jose' to latch on to. He HAS to find something. I guess, lol.

I think the "star witness" will be Zanny's dog. :laugh:

[eagleeer]

I often wonder what would have been the A's reaction if they smelled the decomp in the car and they knew for sure that Caylee was alive with them.I bet it would have been a lot different.Maybe Casey's disappearance would have never been reported.Just a thought.

I would hesitate to think that if Casey disappeared that Shirley Plesea, Cindy's mother would not have made some waves about that. I believe that Cindy and George would have been fine with Casey disappearing but not Caylee. ?????

[Lavinia]

I think the "star witness" will be Zanny's dog. :laugh:

:laugh: They would sure get more truthful info from a dog.

[Dick Tracy]

hi Anakerie,

review the first jailhouse call between Casey and Cindy. Therein you will see WHO Cindy is. and Casey. the line is blurred. they are two psychopaths. and we all know by now psychopaths do not live in the same world we do. Cindy is vindictive, manipulative, arrogant, and thinks she too has the gift of gab like her daughter. they do not possess that gift. their lips move, words come out, but they are nonsensical:

Casey: anyone with any information, she tells Lee, please tell the public to come forward WITHOUT haste. her and her mother tend to use words to inflate their message, but they have a poor command of the english language AND poor methods of communicating...which usually is the case with liars.

Cindy brings the conversation back to herself continually (ME ME ME), while insulting the receiver of her dialogue. you were a recipient of that verbal assault while she shifts back to her false sentiments of appreciation....

Cindy will go down in history as the most disturbed family member of a missing child ever to grace the airwaves. America's newsroom got her # and slammed her: and it was well deserved given the fact this was 6 days later: at that time, she was full of hate and arrogance for those that dared to ask "why didnt she report Caylee missing if she was supposedly abducted.......'

Cindy puts the knife in and twists it, all the while uttering what she deems an expression of endearment: eg, Jailhouse Call..... you dont address someone as sweetheart when you are telling them its THEIR FAULT FOR LYING. then she shifts to talk of her celebrity status in front of the camera....and notice how Casey references her media appearances: with jealousy and disdain.

all the while, a beloved toddler is supposedly 'missing' and these two are doing what they do best, engaging in psycho vs psycho antics.

Cindy 'reached out' to a number of casey's peers to advise them she was a thief and a liar. she didnt DREAM that those people would tell the truth as to 'what she told them'....unfortunately for the anthonys, their 'bubble house' was penetrated...there was a breach....all of them are unable to maintian relationships in the 'real world'.....hence, from the onset, there was no 'adult peers' standing by their side, no family, no friends.

they 'acquired' new friends who are just as nefarious as they are. no surprise there.

I know you are not fooled.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Excellent post and observations of this family Pru. I see those things as well, but you said it better than I ever could.

The most amazing thing I saw about this case was when Casey was in jail, and she never asked ANYTHING about where they were searching, or what they had found. Leads, etc. She kept her mouth shut, and only talked about herself. I thought to myself, doesn't she care about Caylee and where she might be? All she wanted to do was talk about silly stuff, I hate grits this morning, had to eat coleslaw. Big frigging deal.

Like I have said over and over, it's her actions after caylee went missing that are going to put her to the needle.

[AMS]

I think the "star witness" will be Zanny's dog. :laugh:

Yes. One of these white pomeranians could break the case. :biggrin:

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rls=TSHA,TSHA:2006-03,TSHA:en&q=white+pomeranians&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=auURSsHODZO0McvK-YIN&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title


imo

[Pruddennce]

I think she purchased a Blackberry so she could look important in TL's eyes.

Amazing to me, that this guy never had a clue about her deceptivness, and her ways.

because as the saying goes "he just wasnt that into her'....this age group was into 'hanging out and going out'. Casey couldnt do either one without lining up a babysitter, which traditionally was her mother.

she was running out of options as she didnt have a job to make money to live on her own and take care of her daughter and herself, independent of her family. she stole as much as she could, and the well ran dry. (had to steal lawn mower fuel).

He was busy with his OWN life...she was a hanger-on.....a bunk mate....there were no long term plans.....he was going to school.....he left her during a holiday....he was getting another apt and it didnt include her.....

she was dangling her carrot self in front of Will, spent the entire day with him, the day she was picking Tony up.....Will thought he was being woo'ed by her but was confused because 'she had a boyfriend'. she told another grandiose story to Will: she was getting an apt with her BEST FRIEND who had a child as well, and they were going to have a LIVE-IN nanny...the apt was near Valencia....righttttttttttt.......

Casey was lining up alternatives. Then there is Mark Hawkins. still waiting on what he has to say.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[shellzbi]

I think she purchased a Blackberry so she could look important in TL's eyes.

Amazing to me, that this guy never had a clue about her deceptivness, and her ways.

I have been amazed myself that TL never caught on to her.

But then again he might have only been in it for the benefits!

[101Spots]

I have 9. Am I schitzophrenic?

No, but you might be ShihTzu-phrenic.

:lol:


<Sorry.>

[bluwaters]

Prolly so.... I tell you what, anyone who stole money from me, and then denied it or tried to explain it a way to something stupid like I was sleepwalking with it - they wouldn't be my friend after that. Doesn't matter if it's $5.00 or $50.00, or $500.00...

Some of today's youth - just make me shake my head. I suppose my parents did that also. They thought the Beatles on Ed Sullivan was too loud!!!!!!!!

Generation gaps..

LOL!
I think that when some of these former friends take the stand, they will have some interesting tales to tell.

For example-
I worked with a woman who was embezzling from the organization for 10 years.
She was very nice.
What a shock when she was arrested and admitted to over $500K in theft.
No one suspected a thing.
None of us were kids or naive either.
In retrospect, everyone has a few stories about interactions with her that were just a bit odd, or off.
No one sat down and put it together until we knew what she had done.
I think that part of it is that denial thing.
Who wants to go around suspecting everyone around them?
99% of the time, that is wrong.
The 1% opportunist takes advantage.

Am I making sense?

[Lavinia]

No, but you might be ShihTzu-phrenic.

:lol:


<Sorry.>

Oh NO You DI'NT!!!!!! :lol::lol:

[Lavinia]

LOL!
I think that when some of these former friends take the stand, they will have some interesting tales to tell.

For example-
I worked with a woman who was embezzling from the organization for 10 years.
She was very nice.
What a shock when she was arrested and admitted to over $500K in theft.
No one suspected a thing.
None of us were kids or naive either.
In retrospect, everyone has a few stories about interactions with her that were just a bit odd, or off.
No one sat down and put it together until we knew what she had done.
I think that part of it is that denial thing.
Who wants to go around suspecting everyone around them?
99% of the time, that is wrong.
The 1% opportunist takes advantage.

Am I making sense?

You described exactly how they get away with it Blu. ITA!

[bluwaters]

Yes. One of these white pomeranians could break the case. :biggrin:

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rls=TSHA,TSHA:2006-03,TSHA:en&q=white+pomeranians&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=auURSsHODZO0McvK-YIN&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

imo

Super Sleuth!!! :w00t:
You found Zanny's dog!!!:thumbsup:

[martha]

When the trial starts they have got to get past the 31 days before I will believe anything any of the a;s say. I don;t care if someone had treatned to kill everyone I still would have gone to the le about my daughter being taken. any mother I know would have done the same.I would have been crying the whole 31 days. non stop. I would have been looking and I would have had le helping me look. my mother and daddy would have been looking too had they been alive.jmho

[bchand]

Maybe Jose is having trouble convincing a DP qualified attorney to take the "back seat" and let Jose continue running the "show"....

but but didn't his representative say he had "several" DP qualified attorneys on the team quite a while ago? Do they fib?

[Anakerie]

hi Anakerie,

review the first jailhouse call between Casey and Cindy. Therein you will see WHO Cindy is. and Casey. the line is blurred. they are two psychopaths. and we all know by now psychopaths do not live in the same world we do. Cindy is vindictive, manipulative, arrogant, and thinks she too has the gift of gab like her daughter. they do not possess that gift. their lips move, words come out, but they are nonsensical:

Casey: anyone with any information, she tells Lee, please tell the public to come forward WITHOUT haste. her and her mother tend to use words to inflate their message, but they have a poor command of the english language AND poor methods of communicating...which usually is the case with liars.

Cindy brings the conversation back to herself continually (ME ME ME), while insulting the receiver of her dialogue. you were a recipient of that verbal assault while she shifts back to her false sentiments of appreciation....

Cindy will go down in history as the most disturbed family member of a missing child ever to grace the airwaves. America's newsroom got her # and slammed her: and it was well deserved given the fact this was 6 days later: at that time, she was full of hate and arrogance for those that dared to ask "why didnt she report Caylee missing if she was supposedly abducted.......'

Cindy puts the knife in and twists it, all the while uttering what she deems an expression of endearment: eg, Jailhouse Call..... you dont address someone as sweetheart when you are telling them its THEIR FAULT FOR LYING. then she shifts to talk of her celebrity status in front of the camera....and notice how Casey references her media appearances: with jealousy and disdain.

all the while, a beloved toddler is supposedly 'missing' and these two are doing what they do best, engaging in psycho vs psycho antics.

Cindy 'reached out' to a number of casey's peers to advise them she was a thief and a liar. she didnt DREAM that those people would tell the truth as to 'what she told them'....unfortunately for the anthonys, their 'bubble house' was penetrated...there was a breach....all of them are unable to maintian relationships in the 'real world'.....hence, from the onset, there was no 'adult peers' standing by their side, no family, no friends.

they 'acquired' new friends who are just as nefarious as they are. no surprise there.

I know you are not fooled.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*
Excellent post, Pru!

And you are correct. I am not fooled. Nor was I fooled when I wrote the letter. I just didn't quite expect the response I got... lol

[*MoonRider*]

Post of the day to Pru :beer: From my notes so no link:
Cindy: I think once she's found then you can tell everybody what you know and you'll be released. Pause....... Don't you think?
Casey: Potentially, I don't know...Yuri has it set in his mind that I've done something.

[bluwaters]

When the trial starts they have got to get past the 31 days before I will believe anything any of the a;s say. I don;t care if someone had treatned to kill everyone I still would have gone to the le about my daughter being taken. any mother I know would have done the same.I would have been crying the whole 31 days. non stop. I would have been looking and I would have had le helping me look. my mother and daddy would have been looking too had they been alive.jmho
martha -
I am in total agreement with you here.
31 Days.

31 DAYS!


There is no reasonable explanation.
There is no reasonable doubt.

[Anakerie]

Excellent post and observations of this family Pru. I see those things as well, but you said it better than I ever could.

The most amazing thing I saw about this case was when Casey was in jail, and she never asked ANYTHING about where they were searching, or what they had found. Leads, etc. She kept her mouth shut, and only talked about herself. I thought to myself, doesn't she care about Caylee and where she might be? All she wanted to do was talk about silly stuff, I hate grits this morning, had to eat coleslaw. Big frigging deal.

Like I have said over and over, it's her actions after caylee went missing that are going to put her to the needle.
Don't forget that poor Casey didn't have anyone to comfort her.. :rolleyes:

[*MoonRider*]

No, but you might be ShihTzu-phrenic.

:lol:


<Sorry.>

Hey Spots. Here's a post by you that I love. :wub: Hope you don't mind.
Originally Posted by 101Spots
Fact That May Interest Only Me:

Casey said "I" 378 times in her 45-minute interview. That's 8.4 times per minute.

Bozo said "I" or "me" 87 times in his 10-minute interview. That's 8.7 times per minute. And I missed a few at the beginning and whatever he said in Spanish.

Which prompted me to listen again to see how many times she mentioned Caylee in that interview. From my count it was 8 times using Caylee and 1 time she referred to her as she, and 1 time as kid.

[shellzbi]

When the trial starts they have got to get past the 31 days before I will believe anything any of the a;s say. I don;t care if someone had treatned to kill everyone I still would have gone to the le about my daughter being taken. any mother I know would have done the same.I would have been crying the whole 31 days. non stop. I would have been looking and I would have had le helping me look. my mother and daddy would have been looking too had they been alive.jmho


Evening Martha, those 31 day's is a huge hurdle for me as well.

She was out at the bar's looking for her daughter. Have you ever heard of such a thing?

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony: Gonzalez attorney predicts fireworks
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-wesh-asks-if-gonzalez-lawsuit-is-on-life-support.html

[Dick Tracy]

LOL!
I think that when some of these former friends take the stand, they will have some interesting tales to tell.

For example-
I worked with a woman who was embezzling from the organization for 10 years.
She was very nice.
What a shock when she was arrested and admitted to over $500K in theft.
No one suspected a thing.
None of us were kids or naive either.
In retrospect, everyone has a few stories about interactions with her that were just a bit odd, or off.
No one sat down and put it together until we knew what she had done.
I think that part of it is that denial thing.
Who wants to go around suspecting everyone around them?
99% of the time, that is wrong.
The 1% opportunist takes advantage.

Am I making sense?

yeah.... total sense.

I'd like to make t-shirts, that said Inmate #xxxxx - The most Hated woman In America, and then on the back put a picture of CA, and say, the 2nd most hated woman in America.

could probably sell a million of those.

I just had a client make up a t-shirt for his business, the front says "I don't need sex" and underneath that it says "My government screws me everyday" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[apothecary]

You've thoroughly confused me, apothecary. (not a difficult task!) If Caylee was alive with them, what would be the decomp smell in the car?:confused: She was the only dead Anthony. Sorry, that sounds awful, don't know how to rephrase it.
Gol darn just asking what if it had been the reverse and Casey was deceased...What would their reaction have been.I have just had my 2 glasses of wine...which is allowed b/c it is a holiday..

[Dick Tracy]

because as the saying goes "he just wasnt that into her'....this age group was into 'hanging out and going out'. Casey couldnt do either one without lining up a babysitter, which traditionally was her mother.

she was running out of options as she didnt have a job to make money to live on her own and take care of her daughter and herself, independent of her family. she stole as much as she could, and the well ran dry. (had to steal lawn mower fuel).

He was busy with his OWN life...she was a hanger-on.....a bunk mate....there were no long term plans.....he was going to school.....he left her during a holiday....he was getting another apt and it didnt include her.....

she was dangling her carrot self in front of Will, spent the entire day with him, the day she was picking Tony up.....Will thought he was being woo'ed by her but was confused because 'she had a boyfriend'. she told another grandiose story to Will: she was getting an apt with her BEST FRIEND who had a child as well, and they were going to have a LIVE-IN nanny...the apt was near Valencia....righttttttttttt.......

Casey was lining up alternatives. Then there is Mark Hawkins. still waiting on what he has to say.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I love how you write your thoughts out Pru. She wanted to be a part of someones life, (anyones life), and it seems as though people were on to her about her lies (re: AH transcript).

I couldn't face any of these people ever, if I were here. That's what makes her different from everyone else. She doesn't see the "wrong" in anything she does.

[bchand]

Gol darn just asking what if it had been the reverse and Casey was deceased...What would their reaction have been.I have just had my 2 glasses of wine...which is allowed b/c it is a holiday..

I understood you perfectly apothecary !! Happy Victoria Day.

[apothecary]

I understood you perfectly apothecary !! Happy Victoria Day.
Thank you very mush
:wub:

[Pruddennce]

Excellent post, Pru!

And you are correct. I am not fooled. Nor was I fooled when I wrote the letter. I just didn't quite expect the response I got... lol

she is the most ungracious, ill-mannered woman to ever step out of the shadows....

its jaw-dropping. and downright scary that she has chosen THIS event to go 'mainstream and attempt to blend'......she doesnt see herself as others see her because she has been living in a psychotic world a long time.

her new persona: doing the bible thing now....GMAB......what christian teachings proclaim to go on thumping along with total disregard for others....she has clearly said "she doesnt care what other people think of her'....translation: I dont care if I insult and ridicule others....*I only have to answer to God*

plain 'ole evil.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[101Spots]

Hey Spots. Here's a post by you that I love. :wub: Hope you don't mind.
Originally Posted by 101Spots
Fact That May Interest Only Me:

Casey said "I" 378 times in her 45-minute interview. That's 8.4 times per minute.

Bozo said "I" or "me" 87 times in his 10-minute interview. That's 8.7 times per minute. And I missed a few at the beginning and whatever he said in Spanish.

Which prompted me to listen again to see how many times she mentioned Caylee in that interview. From my count it was 8 times using Caylee and 1 time she referred to her as she, and 1 time as kid.

It's OK by me if it's OK bayou.:biggrin:

So Caylee - the *missing* 2-year old - is worthy of about 2.6% as much attention as Casey.

[101Spots]

Casey Anthony: Gonzalez attorney predicts fireworks
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-wesh-asks-if-gonzalez-lawsuit-is-on-life-support.html


Oooooooooooo, fireworks! I love fireworks, mostly because I wasn't allowed as a kid.

I've not yet seen a time for this hearing. Anyone?

[*MoonRider*]

she is the most ungracious, ill-mannered woman to ever step out of the shadows....

its jaw-dropping. and downright scary that she has chosen THIS event to go 'mainstream and attempt to blend'......she doesnt see herself as others see her because she has been living in a psychotic world a long time.

her new persona: doing the bible thing now....GMAB......what christian teachings proclaim to go on thumping along with total disregard for others....she has clearly said "she doesnt care what other people think of her'....translation: I dont care if I insult and ridicule others....*I only have to answer to God*

plain 'ole evil.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

What about Cindy's uninvited list to the Caylee memorial, oops I mean the Casey is a Saint memorial. For a person who admitted they never went to church before this happened, I am stunned that she thinks she is bringing the masses to the Lord. Can you spell H Y P O C R I T E ?

[ConchGirl]

Anyone know what time the hearing is tomorrow?

[bluwaters]

Looks like 10 AM

Event Date Event Time Description Judge Location
5/21/2009 10:30 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R Not Set
5/19/2009 10:00 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R Not Set
5/19/2009 10:00 AM Hearing Rodriguez, Jose R Not Set

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk

[really3997]

Evening all how are my favorite Floridians

[ConchGirl]

Looks like 10 AM



http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk

TY Blue, I can't wait for the fireworks.

[eagleeer]

[quote=Pruddennce;13116034]hi Anakerie,

Snipped for brevity:

Pru, I cannot applaud you enough for your post. There is no case law that I can find that addresses what this case is about. There is no real world in the life of the Anthonys. Their world is their reality and there is no one or anything that will change that.

Denial is a defense mechanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanism) postulated by Sigmund Freud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence). [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial#cite_note-0) The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility) (transference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference)). The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction). The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Freud). She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaturity) mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death), dying and rape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape). More recent research has significantly expanded the scope and utility of the concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

[ConchGirl]

Evening all how are my favorite Floridians

I'll go O/T but how much rain did you get? Is it flooded at the memorial site?

[ConchGirl]

[quote=Pruddennce;13116034]hi Anakerie,

Snipped for brevity:

Pru, I cannot applaud you enough for your post. There is no case law that I can find that addresses what this case is about. There is no real world in the life of the Anthonys. Their world is their reality and there is no one or anything that will change that.

Denial is a defense mechanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanism) postulated by Sigmund Freud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence). [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial#cite_note-0) The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility) (transference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference)). The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction). The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Freud). She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaturity) mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death), dying and rape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape). More recent research has significantly expanded the scope and utility of the concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

You need to send that to Cindy. :thumbsup: jmho

[really3997]

I'll go O/T but how much rain did you get? Is it flooded at the memorial site?

We got bunches...I have not done my nightly rounds had meetings at work tonight will check tomorrow though

[eagleeer]

[quote=eagleeer;13116350]

You need to send that to Cindy. :thumbsup: jmho

Thanks for both thumbs up however, it IMO will fall on deaf ears. There is no amount of therapy that could possibly help Cindy Anthony as she belives that she is above everyone. Especially we stupid uneducated bloggers who have no lives and are extremely fat. :biggrin:

[Neffy]

Resignation letter.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19496384/detail.html

Interesting! Better then being fired. He may still be able to salvage something. What I dunno.

[ConchGirl]

Thanks for both thumbs up however, it IMO will fall on deaf ears. There is no amount of therapy that could possibly help Cindy Anthony as she belives that she is above everyone. Especially we stupid uneducated bloggers who have no lives and are extremely fat. :biggrin:
Am I the only one who is totally annoyed that Cindy thinks if you are a 10 (Casey in her eyes) murder is a tragedy. We bloggers are all fat and don't believe in God. We don't have Faith & Hope like the godlike Cindy. Her ego is beyond words. jmho

[myownopera]

So the rest of us are what??? Fat lazy azz bloggers?


Now that is funny:laugh: What a hoot!!!!

[Neffy]

Something about their comments about helping other victims families really bugs me: this "never give up hope" stuff. They are not the right people to be delivering this message. I cannot imagine it helps.

You know, if they find your loved one murdered and in trash bags in the woods, it might be time to give up hope.

I envision everyone they preach this too cringing and thinking: "wow, your poor grandaughter is dead even though you didn't give up hope."

They need a different message. What optimism can they deliver? Denial?


ITA Joe. Its their commitment on their website. The one about working with "LE". BTW looks like they are now a legal non-profit according to their website.

This proves not everyone HAS followed them or their case. They are getting syphoned money from either this foundation or KFN with medical benefits it would seem (Cindy's Therapist - Georges hospital stay which couldn't be cheap!).

Makes you eye every single non-profit out there.

[really3997]

So the rest of us are what??? Fat lazy azz bloggers?

No fat lazy azz SAD blogger....silly you I think of everyone on this blog as Floridians...no disrespect....bbq at my house at trial time...:loveeyes:

[5boxersmom]

Am I the only one who is totally annoyed that Cindy thinks if you are a 10 (Casey in her eyes) murder is a tragedy. We bloggers are all fat and don't believe in God. We don't have Faith & Hope like the godlike Cindy. Her ego is beyond words. jmho

Checking in for a few. If I remember right when this all started Cindy Anthony was not all that thin. Guess it makes her fell better to call us fat and lazy.

imo