Saturday, May 16, 2009

[Anakerie]

Oh I don't think her appearance is perfect by any means. I've always thought that she's a manly-looking woman.
I don't think she's attractive either. Outside OR inside. But I get the feeling that she think's she's all that and more... :wink:

[Neffy]

Huh? Really?? Which one got to the 9th grade? Got a link?
:biggrin:

:laugh::laugh:

[*MoonRider*]

I don't know. When I say accident, I think drowning, falling and hitting her head, eating the pretty candy in the medicine cabinet....

If Caylee had died from an accidental death and Casey was afraid to report it, IMO, a loving mother would have buried her baby in some type of respectable manor. She would not have put the baby's body in a laundry bag and a trash bag, drove her down to the nearest swamp and dumped her. I think a jury is going to have a very difficult time accepting that as an accidental death....or I know I do.

jmo

IMO, there is no way on God's green Earth it was an accident. I will never be able to get over the fact that she was double bagged in garbage bags with a laundry hamper with the duct tape. That is no accident. She didn't even bury her because she might break a fingernail and miss out on date night. If it were an accident she would have called the police. My 8 ball says lethal injection is in her future. imo

[Barbara fl.]

I don't think she's attractive either. Outside OR inside. But I get the feeling that she think's she's all that and more... :wink:



Oh, I'm sure Big Burtha will think so when Casey get's into general population...:laugh:

[Anakerie]

You're our "10" Anakerie! :wub:
:blush: Awww... Thankies for that!
(head down and scraping my toe on the floor)

[*MoonRider*]

:lol: Like I need Cindy to tell me that I'm not a "10"? ROFLMAO!! All I have to do is look in a mirror!!!
I'm a 10 with one being the cutest. :thumbsup: How dare they judge people by a number. They make me sick.

[True2Blues]

Take that "overweight" question of hers to me and put it with what she told Zenaida in the deposition and it demonstrates how important appearances are to Cindy Anthony. Everything has to be perfect on the surface. Too bad her "perfect" appearance covers such a nasty interior.

That response needs to be widely seen. It shows just where her mean, tiny, little mind stopped maturing.

I don't why she's so obsessed with looks and weight. I suppose because it's the weapon of a nasty natured child.

She didn't exactly look underfed on LKL and she's no raving beauty herself. (I showed my husband a picture of her and he said she looked like and average 60 year old. He couldn't figure out why I was laughing hysterically.)

[Barbara fl.]

IIRC, he was trying to insinuate that Casey was suffering from post-partum depression. He really should have done his homework to look into PPD--like, it's unlikely this would crop up when the baby is almost 3 years old. And, if it was something that occured near the time of the birth, it would not have lasted for almost 3 years.

And that DEPRESSION (regardless of the cause) usually is manifested by having trouble getting up, showering, getting dressed, having to make great effort to carry on with activities, going to work, etc etc etc. Not to say that someone with depression could never go out and have a good time, but most usually, would not be able to carry on to the extent that Casey did.

I don't think a depressed person could spend the amount of time Casey did in texting and being on the phone. A depressed person (unless s/he is on medication) just would not have the energy for all the activities Casey was involved in. And, if indeed Casey was "depressed" I'm betting Cindy would have brought that up front and center. There would be something in the media about Casey needing to have her depression medications whilst she is incarcerated. So, I don't think depression is in the picture, especially not PPD.


There is just no way depression played a part in this murder....Casey may suffer from many things....but not depression...I can not think of anyone that....stole, lied and partied till the cows came home...that was suffering from depression....

She's just a murderer...a cold blooded lying, thievery murderer.....

[Neffy]

That's because their only DEFENSE is OFFENSE.....That's probably how they will be throughout the entire trial.....

And your "ugly" and your "fat" and your not a "10"....

Cindy better take it easy, LKB might take offense.....

She's OFFENSEsive allright!

[~Dramatica~]

If anybody twitters, here's Richard Grunds. http://twitter.com/swordsedge

[101Spots]

I'm not sure you can get "shots" to cover what Cindy's got? :eek:

250 gallons will be a "good start" that should get us past Name, address, date of birth any way. :lol:

We're gunna need a lot more water than that, though!:tongueside:

I'll line up a tanker. Or three.

[Barbara fl.]

I'm not sure you can get "shots" to cover what Cindy's got? :eek:

250 gallons will be a "good start" that should get us past Name, address, date of birth any way. :lol:

We're gunna need a lot more water than that, though!:tongueside:

I love it.....

[bchand]

What do you expect when she stole the kahunas from GA years ago? She wears them proudly. My 80 year old mother can not deal with the mushroom cut.



lol GMTA...

[101Spots]

That response needs to be widely seen. It shows just where her mean, tiny, little mind stopped maturing.

I don't why she's so obsessed with looks and weight. I suppose because it's the weapon of a nasty natured child.

She didn't exactly look underfed on LKL and she's no raving beauty herself. (I showed my husband a picture of her and he said she looked like and average 60 year old. He couldn't figure out why I was laughing hysterically.)

Well, I think Cindy is a "10." A binary 10.

:lol:

[IM4Truth]

then I bet Casey went back home during the 1400 hour. Explains the disk activity on the computer forensics.

What was the activity at that time? Disk activity? Was she searching anything? Do we know how long someone was on the computer?

[bchand]

That response needs to be widely seen. It shows just where her mean, tiny, little mind stopped maturing.

I don't why she's so obsessed with looks and weight. I suppose because it's the weapon of a nasty natured child.

She didn't exactly look underfed on LKL and she's no raving beauty herself. (I showed my husband a picture of her and he said she looked like and average 60 year old. He couldn't figure out why I was laughing hysterically.)

Yep, she completely ignored every one of Anakerie's points and just came back for the kill.

She talks down about bloggers so often, but I wonder how often she's either on email or texting.

[Barbara fl.]

I'm a 10 with one being the cutest. :thumbsup: How dare they judge people by a number. They make me sick.


I wonder how many 10's will be on the jury?

I could see Cindy now on the media "juror 's # 3,4,6,8,10 are not 10's and the rest "may be cute but their not 10's either"...

[Barbara fl.]

Well, I think Cindy is a "10." A binary 10.

:lol:



Or that could be her IQ....

[IM4Truth]

Yep, she completely ignored every one of Anakerie's points and just came back for the kill.

She talks down about bloggers so often, but I wonder how often she's either on email or texting.

She's probably reading as we speak!!

[Barbara fl.]

Yep, she completely ignored every one of Anakerie's points and just came back for the kill.

She talks down about bloggers so often, but I wonder how often she's either on email or texting.



If only her daughter was a blogger.....instead of a murderer.....

[True2Blues]

Well, I think Cindy is a "10." A binary 10.

:lol:

She could be. It's kind of hard to see what she really looks like with all the ugly that oozes out of her pores from the 'real' Cindy inside.

[GIGI4256]

just watched a special on melanie mcguire. never really paid attention before. OMG. she sounds just like KC with the "Abolutely" Such a liar. I only found this website when the Louisiana serial killer was on the lose. That was years ago. I just lurk now. I got hooked during PS 1 and love lurking. (or picking apart) Always JMO of course

[djmsmom]

Oh my, your post was awesome! And Cindy's reply was just so "Cindy", wasn't it? :biggrin: That cracked me up. "Are you overweight?" LOLOL

Her response was just what she is all about. Saying on LKL that bloggers have no lives, yet her daughter didn't and had no desire to work but invented a job and life to give the apperance of an interesting person. Also didn't she state on Lk that Lee was an "event planner" what is it that planning parties and is something they think is job to be admired?? Her husband can't keep a job. Who doesn't have a life? Attacking a persons appreance? So if Casey looks good she don't need a life or should be excused for lieing and stealing? Not to mention she murdered her daughter and didn't care in the least.

[Anakerie]

That response needs to be widely seen. It shows just where her mean, tiny, little mind stopped maturing.

I don't why she's so obsessed with looks and weight. I suppose because it's the weapon of a nasty natured child.

She didn't exactly look underfed on LKL and she's no raving beauty herself. (I showed my husband a picture of her and he said she looked like and average 60 year old. He couldn't figure out why I was laughing hysterically.)
The only place I've linked the posts on my blog, both the open letter and Cindy's response is here. Everyone is welcome to link it or send it on to others that you think should see it..

Like I told her in my response, the reason I wrote the open letter was just to "vent"... And I suppose my response to her nasty little email could be considered more of a vent, but I was laughing to myself as I typed it. I did have a couple friends read both the open letter and the response before I posted today's post... :shrug: They told me to post it.. No changes, just hit "publish" and move on.. lol

[True2Blues]

I wonder how many 10's will be on the jury?

I could see Cindy now on the media "juror 's # 3,4,6,8,10 are not 10's and the rest "may be cute but their not 10's either"...

:laugh::biggrin::lol:

[101Spots]

If only her daughter was a blogger.....instead of a murderer.....


Hey, now, no need to be rude. Just because she lies doesn't mean she's a <gasp> ~blogger~!


:thumbdown:

[Anakerie]

Cindy's poetic style is contained in her writings.

Looks bad to me, but of course not as bad as Vogon poetry, which is the third worst in the Universe?

That's why I think Cindy's is only 4th worst?
OMG! LOL, your reference to Vogon poetry finally sunk into my thick head!!!

It kind of fits with the person I quote in my siggy, doesn't it?

(Would you believe I'm rereading Hitchhikers right now? LOL)

(By the way, would you believe I'm rereading Hitchhikers right now? LOL)

[IM4Truth]

Her response was just what she is all about. Saying on LKL that bloggers have no lives, yet her daughter didn't and had no desire to work but invented a job and life to give the apperance of an interesting person. Also didn't she state on Lk that Lee was an "event planner" what is it that planning parties and is something they think is job to be admired?? Her husband can't keep a job. Who doesn't have a life? Attacking a persons appreance? So if Casey looks good she don't need a life or should be excused for lieing and stealing? Not to mention she murdered her daughter and didn't care in the least.

I don't get where she doesn't think we have a life? I don't get to post 24/7! I have a real job where I have worked for almost 24 years and I get paid. (I don't get to access the board from work either). I'm not a 10, I will admit that, but I'm not that much overweight either! Nothing like MB and at least I wash my hair!! You are so right, Cindy attacking us saying we don't work when Casey didn't work all that time, George couldn't hold down a steady job since he left the police force, Lee puts up tents and parks cars. How DARE she????

[~Dramatica~]

Oh my, your post was awesome! And Cindy's reply was just so "Cindy", wasn't it? :biggrin: That cracked me up. "Are you overweight?" LOLOL I used to be overweight but my daughter murdered my grandchild and I became thin and I look hot. I don't have to work anymore because I am living off of my murdered grandchild. Life is good, I've established a not-for-profit foundation and George and I won't have to work again. Who cares if my daughter did this horrible crime, I'm famous now. George has finally found his niche in life by scamming other people. I couldn't be more proud off my family. Just wait when the movie comes out and I'll be the star. Caylee has been forgotten. jmho

[Amy]

All I can say is unbelievable. She has to insult without knowing the facts. I'm still waiting for her to respond to my email. I guess all of us bloggers are overweight and don't have a body like her. GMAB. Perfect teeth and perfect bodies, but murder is okay. IMO Cindy needs professional help and soon. Cindy is obviously reading every blog and just can't keep her pie hole closed.
Perhaps Cindy is who got us closed down by reporting posts she doesn't like. moo

Cindy may have lost weight since July 15, 2009, seeing as how she seems to have existed on no sleep and only bottled water (except for the crab puffs Dec 10 or was it Dec 11 they ate @ the Ritz?) but she still isn't a "10" by any means. Probably more like a "2," if that. She might make it to a 3 or maybe even a 4 if she would have a pleasant demeanor and look on her face. IMO.

[aproudmom]

:lol: Like I need Cindy to tell me that I'm not a "10"? ROFLMAO!! All I have to do is look in a mirror!!!

:thumbsup: What you didn't first of all not so sure she even knows what a 10 is..

[Oregongal]

FANTASTIC :thumbsup: Thanks for the update! WOO HOO!

This is wonderful news!!!
Thank you jo.
Wow, that makes 2 babies found in a week that had been snatched. Alive.
God is good.
:thumbsup:

[IM4Truth]

This is wonderful news!!!
Thank you jo.
Wow, that makes 2 babies found in a week that had been snatched. Alive.
God is good.
:thumbsup:

Did the Anthonys or KFN help find them???

[GIGI4256]

:thumbsup: What you didn't first of all not so sure she even knows what a 10 is..

sin thinks she is a 10!!!!

[101Spots]

I used to be overweight but my daughter murdered my grandchild and I became thin and I look hot. I don't have to work anymore because I am living off of my murdered grandchild. Life is good, I've established a not-for-profit foundation and George and I won't have to work again. Who cares if my daughter did this horrible crime, I'm famous now. George has finally found his niche in life by scamming other people. I couldn't be more proud off my family. Just wait when the movie comes out and I'll be the star. Caylee has been forgotten. jmho

Sad, isn't it?

[Chardonnay]

If anybody twitters, here's Richard Grunds. http://twitter.com/swordsedge

Interesting tidbit under his name...He's ready for a battle? Hmmmm... For some reason, the Ants come to mind.

[aproudmom]

Cindy may have lost weight since July 15, 2009, seeing as how she seems to have existed on no sleep and only bottled water (except for the crab puffs Dec 10 or was it Dec 11 they ate @ the Ritz?) but she still isn't a "10" by any means. Probably more like a "2," if that. She might make it to a 3 or maybe even a 4 if she would have a pleasant demeanor and look on her face. IMO.

just check out the pic of her Caylee and GA on the couch all I see is cellulite so she was far from a skinny Minny guess she can thank KC for her weight loss.:biggrin:

[True2Blues]

The only place I've linked the posts on my blog, both the open letter and Cindy's response is here. Everyone is welcome to link it or send it on to others that you think should see it..

Like I told her in my response, the reason I wrote the open letter was just to "vent"... And I suppose my response to her nasty little email could be considered more of a vent, but I was laughing to myself as I typed it. I did have a couple friends read both the open letter and the response before I posted today's post... :shrug: They told me to post it.. No changes, just hit "publish" and move on.. lol

You did a great job. She isn't worthy of any more of your time.

[gaelicpeas]

You're right, Amy, IMO. :thumbup:

I have a few things going on here today and I missed responding to you earlier about Leanoman's (sp), plea of mental disease or condition. Did he actually set anything particular forth in that, such as a psychosis or any evidence of prior disease or was it just a general, "We may wish to use mental defect in the future" type of request?IIRC, Lenamon made some reference to post-partum depression or something like that. Kinda out there, since it had been nearly 3 years since Caylee was born. JMO

[Anakerie]

This is wonderful news!!!
Thank you jo.
Wow, that makes 2 babies found in a week that had been snatched. Alive.
God is good.
:thumbsup:
I think everyone needed good news like what we've gotten with those two little ones... I'm so happy for the families of both babies... And sad for the families that are still waiting for word about thier loved ones...
:rose:

[~Dramatica~]

Cindy may have lost weight since July 15, 2009, seeing as how she seems to have existed on no sleep and only bottled water (except for the crab puffs Dec 10 or was it Dec 11 they ate @ the Ritz?) but she still isn't a "10" by any means. Probably more like a "2," if that. She might make it to a 3 or maybe even a 4 if she would have a pleasant demeanor and look on her face. IMO.

I'm 51 but my melons don't hang like that. But I have not had rapid weight loss (due to lying) that can cause that sort of thing. If I lost that much weight my melons would disappear. She is a very spiteful bioutch just like her perfect 10 (in the Anthony kind of way) daughter. jmho

[IM4Truth]

Was just fixing my dinner (5 minutes in the microwave) when a thought occurred to me. Maybe it was an accident and Casey did try to call her Mom & Dad, but they were still mad at her so they wouldn't answer. Casey panicked. The rest of the defense will be attributed to her fear of her overbearing mother who had tried to choke her to death the night she left! That still doesn't explain the awful duct tape and garbage bags unless she was trying to make it look like a kidnapping. Another thing, drowning keeps coming up but she was found with shorts and a t-shirt. Was there a swim suit or floaters in the bag too? Anyone remember?

[aproudmom]

If anybody twitters, here's Richard Grunds. http://twitter.com/swordsedge

I dont know much about it but do watch it during live trials on here...lol wonder what he is talking about or who..duh..:wink:

[IM4Truth]

IIRC, Lenamon made some reference to post-partum depression or something like that. Kinda out there, since it had been nearly 3 years since Caylee was born. JMO

But there was also the rumor of the miscarriage with Brandon Snow(?)

[Anakerie]

Did the Anthonys or KFN help find them???
George didn't have time to gas up and haul that rolling billboard to Texas and California after KFN put the pictures and wrong phone numbers on it.
:cool:

[kanzz]

If anybody twitters, here's Richard Grunds. http://twitter.com/swordsedge

wow. Did you see his most recent post?

"Watching DVD Taken w/family. If someone took my child it would test my ability to keep the beast in the cage!"

[IM4Truth]

I think everyone needed good news like what we've gotten with those two little ones... I'm so happy for the families of both babies... And sad for the families that are still waiting for word about thier loved ones...
:rose:

And my question is which one of those families are the Anthonys supporting right now?

[Oregongal]

Anakerie, loved your open letter!
That Cindy saw it and wrote those so lovely, lady like comments (I say sarcastically), says to me she has alot more time on her hands than alot of do.
My dd and I read both your letter and Cindy's comments. Mostly made us laugh about her. It's that's time of day. :wink:
Then we started talking about me starting a blog just to try and receive things from Cindy.
You wouldn't believe some of the hiliarious things we thought of.
But, of course I wouldn't do that, I could not hold back my true feelings and anger. She can't because she's a mom who does care for her child, my gson.
We both just thought it very ironic that there is Cindy complaining and dissing bloggers (us) on LKL, but she is reading all isn't she?
Again, great job Ana!!!!
:wub:

[Anakerie]

It was a quick reference pages back because I noticed your siggy. :smile:

If you are reading the HHGTG "trillogy" remember there are FIVE books!
Even talk of a sixth written posthumously. :eek:

"So long,... and thanks for all the fish!"
lol, Last month I bought the "Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide"... Leather-bound with all 5 books and an extra story.. hehe.. Somewhere among my boxes are all the paperbacks too... :tongue:

Now, back to the subject at hand; Does anyone want to try to guess where the Anthony's will pop up next in the media? I mean, they've closed the door on Oprah, they've done LKL (and probably did NOT have a good time) and they've done the Early Show (free ride and all). So what's the best guess of who they will try to con into giving them air time to promote the fundation and poison the jury pool some more?

[GIGI4256]

ok nite (10) characters

[Lavinia]

ok nite (10) characters

G'Night GIGI. Maybe nappy time for me, too.

:seeya:

[IM4Truth]

I think I'm talking to myself here about this, but I can't help but wonder if Cindy isn't playing right into Jose's defense? Think about it. Everyone that ever saw Casey with Caylee said she appeared to be a loving and caring mother. There are so many photos of them smiling together. All of Casey's friends and even her family attest to that. HOWEVER, Casey's friends all say how controlling and overbearing Cindy was with Casey!

[~Dramatica~]

George didn't have time to gas up and haul that rolling billboard to Texas and California after KFN put the pictures and wrong phone numbers on it.
:cool:

Don't forget that George had the killers under survelliance and Caylee was moved 9 times. http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20SpeaksDonate to me please.

[IM4Truth]

lol, Last month I bought the "Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide"... Leather-bound with all 5 books and an extra story.. hehe.. Somewhere among my boxes are all the paperbacks too... :tongue:

Now, back to the subject at hand; Does anyone want to try to guess where the Anthony's will pop up next in the media? I mean, they've closed the door on Oprah, they've done LKL (and probably did NOT have a good time) and they've done the Early Show (free ride and all). So what's the best guess of who they will try to con into giving them air time to promote the fundation and poison the jury pool some more?

Have they totally written off Geraldo yet?

[GIGI4256]

G'Night GIGI. Maybe nappy time for me, too.

:seeya:

thunderstorm sleep nothing like it
too bad caylee had to go to sleep IN the storm instead of her own warm bed JMO

[Oregongal]

As you can see I'm not quoting, just wanting to comment a bit, so I can finally get caught up with you all.
I have had refried beans lost in the back of my frig until the smell of them when discovered would knock you on your butt. Also, I've noticed, many vegies in Tupperware, especially broccallie (sp?...you know, what my kids called trees). That and cauliflower in Tupperware will look fantastic for weeks, but open that container and the smell will make you gag.
But, never, never would I have described any of these things as smelling like a dead body. I've thankfully have never smelled that smell and hope that I never do.
The fact that Cindy has been trying to explain that death smell in the car away is to me so obvious she knew that smell was not pizza, or rotten frig food. The fact that she's tried to explain it away at all speaks volumes about what she smelled, what she knew it smelled like and how she's trying to negate her statement to 911 and later to the media.
Oh, whoever brought up the Volcon reference to Cindy, my dd and I had to google that. I do finally get it.
:lol:

[Anakerie]

And my question is which one of those families are the Anthonys supporting right now?
None of those families because there haven't been enough donations to the fundation yet. :glare:

I honestly can not figure out what Cindy and George think they can do to help families going through the agony of having a family member disappear. I do not believe the Anthony family did anything right. How on earth could they advise another family? It was good to hear that the Anthony circus was shown the door at the Cumming's... George and entourage had no business showing up there right after George got out of the hospital.

[~Dramatica~]

thunderstorm sleep nothing like it
too bad caylee had to go to sleep IN the storm instead of her own warm bed JMOIt was not a thunderstorm, it was Tropical Storm Fay which dumped over 10 inches of rain while the OC was in jail. She must have been praying for the rain Gods to cover her tracks. Guess what Casey, it didn't work. jmho

[Anakerie]

Anakerie, loved your open letter!
That Cindy saw it and wrote those so lovely, lady like comments (I say sarcastically), says to me she has alot more time on her hands than alot of do.
My dd and I read both your letter and Cindy's comments. Mostly made us laugh about her. It's that's time of day. :wink:
Then we started talking about me starting a blog just to try and receive things from Cindy.
You wouldn't believe some of the hiliarious things we thought of.
But, of course I wouldn't do that, I could not hold back my true feelings and anger. She can't because she's a mom who does care for her child, my gson.
We both just thought it very ironic that there is Cindy complaining and dissing bloggers (us) on LKL, but she is reading all isn't she?
Again, great job Ana!!!!
:wub:
Thanks OregonGal! :-) I sent Cindy the link to my blog.. admittedly it was hours after I originally posted it... I figured that since I wrote the whole thing to her, she at least needed to know it was there. lol.. I did not, however, expect a reply from her. Especially not the reply I got! LOL.. At this point, I don't know if I'm going to send her the link again to see my response to her...

[Oregongal]

Did the Anthonys or KFN help find them???

Hmmmmmmm.....let me think.....that would be a no.

[Anakerie]

Have they totally written off Geraldo yet?
lol, Good question! Is Geraldo still doing shows? :wink: I haven't watched him since the early part of the Cummings case when he attacked the dad...

[IM4Truth]

Anakerie, you are one classy lady. My response would have melted her site. Way to go, you are so far above her you float.:thumbsup:
You are a 12.

I emailed Cindy several days ago and asked her why they and KFN didn't bring that boat down to Immokalee to search the canals in the Panther Preserve for little Adji Desir. I didn't get an answer!

[IM4Truth]

lol, Good question! Is Geraldo still doing shows? :wink: I haven't watched him since the early part of the Cummings case when he attacked the dad...

I dunno, but I sure would like to see Dr. Phil in their face!

[~Dramatica~]

Any chance that Cindy or GACA will get their own show?

Could be interview/therapy show like Dr Phil?

Or perhaps a reality show, filmed day to day in Anthony home? Like Fear Factor?, Survivor? Lost? Missing? Misplaced?
Fear that their daughter killed their grandchild.
Factor Their 10 daughter with perfect straight teeth who is not over weight killed their grandchild.
Survivor: They will survive off of Caylee's death and not have to work again.
Lost: They have lost their focus. Caylee was murdered by Caylee.
Missing: She was not missing ever. Casey knew where she was.
Misplaced: I lost my keys today, so I totally understand according to Cindy. jmho

[Oregongal]

Interesting tidbit under his name...He's ready for a battle? Hmmmm... For some reason, the Ants come to mind.

I missed your welcoming day Chardonnay...welcome!
I have a bit of Chardonnay right next to me right now. :wink:
Yes, RG is ready for battle against the Ant's. He has blogged about all they've tried to do to bring his family down. Especially them trying to throw not only Jesse, but he and his wife under the bus.
He is also prepared and ready to battle the whole good vs evil aspect of this whole case.
I still haven't signed up on the twitter thing, maybe I will just to be able to follow RG.
Again, welcome Chardonnay!

[gaelicpeas]

IIRC, he was trying to insinuate that Casey was suffering from post-partum depression. He really should have done his homework to look into PPD--like, it's unlikely this would crop up when the baby is almost 3 years old. And, if it was something that occured near the time of the birth, it would not have lasted for almost 3 years.

And that DEPRESSION (regardless of the cause) usually is manifested by having trouble getting up, showering, getting dressed, having to make great effort to carry on with activities, going to work, etc etc etc. Not to say that someone with depression could never go out and have a good time, but most usually, would not be able to carry on to the extent that Casey did.

I don't think a depressed person could spend the amount of time Casey did in texting and being on the phone. A depressed person (unless s/he is on medication) just would not have the energy for all the activities Casey was involved in. And, if indeed Casey was "depressed" I'm betting Cindy would have brought that up front and center. There would be something in the media about Casey needing to have her depression medications whilst she is incarcerated. So, I don't think depression is in the picture, especially not PPD.I agree completely. No way Casey was depressed. JMO

[Oregongal]

I think everyone needed good news like what we've gotten with those two little ones... I'm so happy for the families of both babies... And sad for the families that are still waiting for word about thier loved ones...
:rose:

For all the children and young adults still missing....there are so many my heart just aches.
:rose:
And prayers for the families in limbo and waiting for them.
:wub:

[FrankieBones1]

Wow... I think I've seen all those pictures in the past, but when you put them all together that way it really gives you a disturbing picture of her... Unbalanced... Yikes.

"Theatrics" came to mind.

[ConchGirl]

Fear that their daughter killed their grandchild.
Factor Their 10 daughter with perfect straight teeth who is not over weight killed their grandchild.
Survivor: They will survive off of Caylee's death and not have to work again.
Lost: They have lost their focus. Caylee was murdered by Caylee.
Missing: She was not missing ever. Casey knew where she was.
Misplaced: I lost my keys today, so I totally understand according to Cindy. jmho

Lost sticks in my mind. As a poster said they drew straws and Caylee lost. imo

[kanzz]

I hope Ciindy's stupid e-mail means she is back in Florida. I have been looking for her limo in CA - thought she might be looking to settle in Beverly Hills to be the new Bev Hillbillies.

Looks like she thinks she should change her name to Bo to star in the movie or whatever she is writing in her media book. Can you imagine her masculine face with Bo Derek's hairdo - GA could pretend he is George Hamilton (sorry, GH ) Cindy "Bo", you are not a 10 inside or out and neither is OD. Why does GA feel he has to tell everyone he is not an idiot?

bolding mine

George: Methinks thou doth protest too much.

[Chardonnay]

Fear that their daughter killed their grandchild.
Factor Their 10 daughter with perfect straight teeth who is not over weight killed their grandchild.
Survivor: They will survive off of Caylee's death and not have to work again.
Lost: They have lost their focus. Caylee was murdered by Caylee.
Missing: She was not missing ever. Casey knew where she was.
Misplaced: I lost my keys today, so I totally understand according to Cindy. jmho

Awesome ! Bravo! You hit the nail on the head.

[gaelicpeas]

But there was also the rumor of the miscarriage with Brandon Snow(?)
Oh yeah... she just keeps getting pregnant and depressed.

[Chardonnay]

I missed your welcoming day Chardonnay...welcome!
I have a bit of Chardonnay right next to me right now. :wink:
Yes, RG is ready for battle against the Ant's. He has blogged about all they've tried to do to bring his family down. Especially them trying to throw not only Jesse, but he and his wife under the bus.
He is also prepared and ready to battle the whole good vs evil aspect of this whole case.
I still haven't signed up on the twitter thing, maybe I will just to be able to follow RG.
Again, welcome Chardonnay!

Thanks for the welcome. I love this board. I think I'll be his Tweet too.

[IM4Truth]

Accidents do happen and we do all react differently. Last night DD dropped 6 mo old baby. Not far. Baby sitting on area rug, DD goes to pick her up but when she comes up behind baby and puts her hands under her, baby stands up and takes a somersault fwd ending up on her back. DD starts screaming hysterically for baby's daddy. Daddy comes and takes baby to bedroom, closes door and won't let mommy in until she (mommy) stops crying. Mommy wanted to take baby to hospital but baby stopped crying long before mommy and wasn't even hurt.

When my DD was a tot, she was jumping on the bed, fell and hit the corner of a dresser, got a tiny cut about 1/4" but blood gushing. She came downstairs crying with hands over face and blood all over. I told her to stop right there, ran to the phone and called her daddy to come home right now before I even went to check on her! As soon as I hung up the phone though, I grabbed her to check her out. We took her to E-R and they had to do a butterfly stitch on the eyebrow to stop the bleeding. I always panicked. I feel bad about it now.

However, in both instances above, our first instinct was to get daddy's help. I just can't figure out for sure if Caylee had an accident. All of those internet searches in months leading up to the tragedy and the incident of Casey not getting to go to PR with her friends, that all leads me to believe in pre-meditation. I'm leaning more towards Casey trying to make it look like an accident. But when GA & CA didn't answer WHY didn't she call 911?

[aproudmom]

Was just fixing my dinner (5 minutes in the microwave) when a thought occurred to me. Maybe it was an accident and Casey did try to call her Mom & Dad, but they were still mad at her so they wouldn't answer. Casey panicked. The rest of the defense will be attributed to her fear of her overbearing mother who had tried to choke her to death the night she left! That still doesn't explain the awful duct tape and garbage bags unless she was trying to make it look like a kidnapping. Another thing, drowning keeps coming up but she was found with shorts and a t-shirt. Was there a swim suit or floaters in the bag too? Anyone remember?

I have thought of that in the beginning when she was calling them non-stop and then all of a sudden she stopped..who knows with her..if so she should have called 911..I wondered if she was not on the computer and texting and suddenly remembered she had a baby to watch and she fell in the pool..once again she should have called 911 not mommy or daddy

[IM4Truth]

I hope Ciindy's stupid e-mail means she is back in Florida. I have been looking for her limo in CA - thought she might be looking to settle in Beverly Hills to be the new Bev Hillbillies.

Looks like she thinks she should change her name to Bo to star in the movie or whatever she is writing in her media book. Can you imagine her masculine face with Bo Derek's hairdo - GA could pretend he is George Hamilton (sorry, GH ) Cindy "Bo", you are not a 10 inside or out and neither is OD. Why does GA feel he has to tell everyone he is not an idiot?

My bold in red: Sure makes you wonder, doesn't it? I have heard him say it a few times.

[*MoonRider*]

This woman (Casey) is not depressed and never has been depressed. Depression is a feeling and Casey has absolutely no feelings.
JMO Nor do her parents. Send money and we will get better by keeping the memory alive. Send money so we don't have to work anymore. Send money so Casey can get a fair trial. Send money so we can keep hope alive. Send money if you look up like me. My faith has never been stronger. Casey loves Caylee more that I love Casey. I love Casey more every day. What about Caylee?

[Dells]

I think it is still scheduled for October, but I expect there will be numerous requests for the date to be pushed back.

Question: Since it has been speculated the reason a notice of appearance for the DP attorney has not been filed is because JB does not have a DP qualified attorney on board (yet). If JB is dragging his feet on the DP attorney, can he use that as a reason to get an extension on the trial date? TIA

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you. I bet the first time that JB asks for a delay, it gets pushed back to at the very least January, until after the holidays are over. I don't think that will be the last delay either.

[Chardonnay]

Nor do her parents. Send money and we will get better by keeping the memory alive. Send money so we don't have to work anymore. Send money so Casey can get a fair trial. Send money so we can keep hope alive. Send money if you look up like me. My faith has never been stronger. Casey loves Caylee more that I love Casey. I love Casey more every day. What about Caylee?

And even if you're not a 10...Send money..

[IM4Truth]

It was about this time last night that I was writing my final post and poof! we were gone! Hopefully this one will make it through. Will catch up with ya all sometime tomorrow. Until then, I'm going to leave you with this thought, which is a poster's siggy "You will learn to respect me ~ Jose Baez" Has anyone learned that yet? Good night all.

[Dick Tracy]

IMO, there is no way on God's green Earth it was an accident. I will never be able to get over the fact that she was double bagged in garbage bags with a laundry hamper with the duct tape. That is no accident. She didn't even bury her because she might break a fingernail and miss out on date night. If it were an accident she would have called the police. My 8 ball says lethal injection is in her future. imo

Well, there's the act of murder, and then what happens afterwards. I'm just saying it could have been an accident, thereby Casey at least truthfully saying, I didn't kill my daughter. But Casey doesn't tell the truth. Geezus. I don't know.

I've probably just said some flamer material. Don't flame me. Please. Today is not a good day to flame Dick.

[*MoonRider*]

Accidents do happen and we do all react differently. Last night DD dropped 6 mo old baby. Not far. Baby sitting on area rug, DD goes to pick her up but when she comes up behind baby and puts her hands under her, baby stands up and takes a somersault fwd ending up on her back. DD starts screaming hysterically for baby's daddy. Daddy comes and takes baby to bedroom, closes door and won't let mommy in until she (mommy) stops crying. Mommy wanted to take baby to hospital but baby stopped crying long before mommy and wasn't even hurt.

When my DD was a tot, she was jumping on the bed, fell and hit the corner of a dresser, got a tiny cut about 1/4" but blood gushing. She came downstairs crying with hands over face and blood all over. I told her to stop right there, ran to the phone and called her daddy to come home right now before I even went to check on her! As soon as I hung up the phone though, I grabbed her to check her out. We took her to E-R and they had to do a butterfly stitch on the eyebrow to stop the bleeding. I always panicked. I feel bad about it now.


However, in both instances above, our first instinct was to get daddy's help. I just can't figure out for sure if Caylee had an accident. All of those internet searches in months leading up to the tragedy and the incident of Casey not getting to go to PR with her friends, that all leads me to believe in pre-meditation. I'm leaning more towards Casey trying to make it look like an accident. But when GA & CA didn't answer WHY didn't she call 911?
I'll never forget when I was babysitting my identical twin nephews and Mom said they won't roll. Was she wrong. Chris rolled off the bed and landed on the terazza floor. I grabbed him and picked him up and felt behind his head looking for blood. He was fine, but if he was not fine would I throw him in a garbage bag and say that the Nanny took him? I have never had such a close call with my own children. Accidents can happen but it's how you handle it after that matters. If you tell the truth nothing bad can happen. This was no accident imo

[Dells]

Yes....Infact, I went thru the time line of everything from the beginning up until Aug 4th...

First it sickened me to see how Casey dragged poor Caylee around so much....From May 29th til June 10th (12 days)...That poor child slept away frm home 5 nights (running around with Casey)....As a grandparent that has 2 grandchildren living with her, I can tell you this...that would have never happened in my home....I am a firm believer that children should have the security of going to sleep and waking up in their own beds....(unless certain circumstances prevent this from happening) but certainly not on a regular bases..like Caylee..

Then on June 16th George claimes that Casey and Caylee were LEAVING the house at 12:30pm, yet a call was placed from home to Casey's cell at 7:45am that same morning....George never mentioned that Casey had come home with Caylee and then went back out....

It seems obvious that Caylee was murdered on the 16th of June...On the 24th of June George makes a police report that his gas cans were stolen....then later claims that he couldn't remember the exact day that Casey had come by but that it seems it was the 24th.....well how can he forget the day that he reported the cans missing and the same day when she brought the cans back....

This is getting kind of long....I'll finish soon (I don't want to bore anyone):biggrin:

Well, you are definitely NOT boring me at all. In fact, I find this to be extremely interesting and I want to thank you for putting this all together for us.:thumbup: Wow, how sad that Caylee spent so much time away from home at such a young age. I remember when mine were that young and they couldn't sleep anywhere except their own bed. Now, of course, all they want to do is sleep over at their friend's houses, but still, nothing is like the comfort of their own bed to them.

I'll tell ya, the more I hear about Casey the more despicable and disgusting that I find her. She couldn't even offer her sweet baby the security of sleeping in her own bed each night.:thumbdown: Truly deplorable.

[kanzz]

Check this out - recognize anyone?

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/manipulator/eighteasyways.shtml

Thanks for sharing this... it's a dandy. Perfect description of my first spouse.

Reminds me.. does anyone know when Cindy went to nursing school? i.e.. was it before she met George, or after?

[seeing_eye]

That is a confusing statement. She lied about working--so she could be AWAY from Caylee more, having an excuse the A's would accept to be watching Caylee. They would be more likely to watch Caylee if Casey said she was working, than if she wanted to just go party.

Seems, if what Casey wanted was to spend more time w/Caylee, she would just admit she WASN'T working, and spend the time w/Caylee, instead of the A's having the care of her so much.

I don't think "logic" is in Cindy's vocabulary.

[IM4Truth]

Well, there's the act of murder, and then what happens afterwards. I'm just saying it could have been an accident, thereby Casey at least truthfully saying, I didn't kill my daughter. But Casey doesn't tell the truth. Geezus. I don't know.

I've probably just said some flamer material. Don't flame me. Please. Today is not a good day to flame Dick.

I didn't get signed out yet, as usual. You made a very good point there, even if you have had a bad day. Cindy said Casey knew exactly where Caylee was. (truth). Casey said in her gut she felt like Caylee was close to home. (truth).

Thinking this over, remember that first day when Cindy called 911? Casey told Lee that maybe she was just a spiteful b****? In the past Casey told a couple of people she felt like she need to be admitted to a mental hospital. Perhaps Casey recognized her own disorder but didn't know how to handle it? That statement about the spiteful b**** sure makes it look like it was on purpose.

[*MoonRider*]

I don't think "logic" is in Cindy's vocabulary.
Let's take logic in a backwards kind of way:
Cindy
Is
Going
Off
Logic to protect her murderous daughter.

[IM4Truth]

Easy, Dick. Of course it could have been an accid....oops gotta go! A pig just flew by.

LOL on that one! :thumbsup:

Question: If Casey is found guilty, does she automatically get the DP? Or do the jurors come back later and decide on punishment?

[IM4Truth]

LOL on that one! :thumbsup:

Question: If Casey is found guilty, does she automatically get the DP? Or do the jurors come back later and decide on punishment?

I can't go to sleep until I get an answer on that one!

[Oregongal]

But there was also the rumor of the miscarriage with Brandon Snow(?)

That 'rumor' IM4T, came from Casey.
IIR, even Amy didn't believe there was any truth to that.
I've thought that Brandon was a past, geez, how do I say this nicely?
Relationship, one night or two stand?
She ran into him at this party and as she had done with every other of her current bf's, was perhaps thinking of setting him up as her next in line. He totally blew her off and she got upset. After all, not many of the boys/men have blown her off. (Yes, there is a double entrande' here)
And to think of this in connection with how she seemed to be in a relationship with Tony, she was already getting into Will Waters?
Talking to him on her cell up to the moment she saw Tony walk off of the plane from his trip to NY.
Thinking of all of this....in a relationship with a boyfriend, grooming another while still in that relationship pattern of hers....if she hadn't ever had Caylee. If she hadn't killed Caylee, I see Casey as a Black Widow serial killer that was stopped before she ever began.

[summer4meplz]

I can't go to sleep until I get an answer on that one!

I THINK the answer is no.....if casey is found guilty, it is not an automatic death penalty.....I'm answering you so you can get some sleep....I'm not a lawyer....I just don't want you to be sleepless...:biggrin:

[IM4Truth]

That 'rumor' IM4T, came from Casey.
IIR, even Amy didn't believe there was any truth to that.
I've thought that Brandon was a past, geez, how do I say this nicely?
Relationship, one night or two stand?
She ran into him at this party and as she had done with every other of her current bf's, was perhaps thinking of setting him up as her next in line. He totally blew her off and she got upset. After all, not many of the boys/men have blown her off. (Yes, there is a double entrande' here)
And to think of this in connection with how she seemed to be in a relationship with Tony, she was already getting into Will Waters?
Talking to him on her cell up to the moment she saw Tony walk off of the plane from his trip to NY.
Thinking of all of this....in a relationship with a boyfriend, grooming another while still in that relationship pattern of hers....if she hadn't ever had Caylee. If she hadn't killed Caylee, I see Casey as a Black Widow serial killer that was stopped before she ever began.

Can you imagine all of these young men having to take the witness stand and testify to relationships with her? How embarrassing for them! They made their own choices but I'm sure she lured them into the web.

[ConchGirl]

Easy, Dick. Of course it could have been an accid....oops gotta go! A pig just flew by.
I was told that when Barak became President pigs would fly. 100 days into it the swine flu. moo

[kanzz]

I can't go to sleep until I get an answer on that one!

Interesting notes here:
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/issues/232/lafferty.html

[myownopera]

I THINK the answer is no.....if casey is found guilty, it is not an automatic death penalty.....I'm answering you so you can get some sleep....I'm not a lawyer....I just don't want you to be sleepless...:biggrin:

I feel sure you are right summer. If found guilty, the jury then recommends death or life. The judge leans very heavily to go with the recommendation of the jury. That's the way it was in the Seranno case (in Florida).


JMO

[djmsmom]

I didn't get signed out yet, as usual. You made a very good point there, even if you have had a bad day. Cindy said Casey knew exactly where Caylee was. (truth). Casey said in her gut she felt like Caylee was close to home. (truth).

Thinking this over, remember that first day when Cindy called 911? Casey told Lee that maybe she was just a spiteful b****? In the past Casey told a couple of people she felt like she need to be admitted to a mental hospital. Perhaps Casey recognized her own disorder but didn't know how to handle it? That statement about the spiteful b**** sure makes it look like it was on purpose.
Even if she felt like something was wrong with her, her mother made it worse by lieing for her and covering up. Any convincing her if nobody knows then its ok, exactly how she is acting now. If they can't prove it it didn't happen.

[Dells]

I thought the same thing and tracked that photo down today. Will add it soon. If you want to see it here it is. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/wink.jpg

:scared:

I still can't believe that Cindy winked at Brad Conway like that at the deposition. I mean this was supposed to be a serious proceeding, and they made it into a total circus.:thumbdown:

[IM4Truth]

Excellent question IM4T, I know it is, because I asked it too!
The reply I got was that the judge has the ultimate decision, after the sentencing hearings.

So let me get this right, the jury can vote for LWOP but the judge can override that? The State will push for the DP though. Hmmmm, I don't think I will be sleepless in Miami tonight. But hopefully some law educated people will help me out tomorrow on this. I'm not very intelligent!

[*MoonRider*]

:scared:

I still can't believe that Cindy winked at Brad Conway like that at the deposition. I mean this was supposed to be a serious proceeding, and they made it into a total circus.:thumbdown:

Cindy is smarter than the average bear and don't you forget it. :D

[True2Blues]

So let me get this right, the jury can vote for LWOP but the judge can override that? The State will push for the DP though. Hmmmm, I don't think I will be sleepless in Miami tonight. But hopefully some law educated people will help me out tomorrow on this. I'm not very intelligent!

A Judge can throw out a verdict if he feels it's completely wrong, but he has to have reasons for it. Otherwise, the jury gives a recommendation and the Judge can either go with that or give a lesser sentence, but can't move up from Life to Death. (As I understand it.)

In cases that don't involve a DP consideration, I'm not sure whether a Judge can give more time or not.

[djmsmom]

I THINK the answer is no.....if casey is found guilty, it is not an automatic death penalty.....I'm answering you so you can get some sleep....I'm not a lawyer....I just don't want you to be sleepless...:biggrin:

If casey if found guilty then a penalty trial is held. For the jury to decide penalty.

[True2Blues]

Cindy is smarter than the average bear and don't you forget it. :D

You keep saying things like that and you're going to find a bunch of angry bears on your lawn one morning! LOL:biggrin:

[*MoonRider*]

You keep saying things like that and you're going to find a bunch of angry bears on your lawn one morning! LOL:biggrin:
I'm just sick of Cindy thinking that her grandchild is more important than other missing children. Her grandchild was murdered by her mother. Caylee is the only angel looking down upon missing children and they have to keep the memory alive by seeking donations. The donations are not to get stricter penalties for parents who murder their children but to make sure the grandparents are able to capitalize on the tragedy of a murdered child and never have to work again because they are special. What am I not understanding?

[Amy]

I wish that Lapis could enlighten us with one of her knowledgeable posts.
I hope that she is OK. :crying:

I don't think that the trial will go on as planned in October.
Not with the DP on the table and a new attorney apparently still to be brought on board.

I know I have read posts where posters HOPE the trial goes in Oct, but I haven't seen a post nor heard a TH on any of the shows that anyone really thinks it will. Too bad. Except, as the time goes on, if the A's and Baez slink into the woodwork and quit the continual tv appearances and in Baez' case, the pc's, there will be NO NEED for change of venue. If THEY didn't put the case in the media every single day, as there becomes less and less new things, motions and hearings, there will be less and less morning to night coverage. IMO

[Amy]

Great post Amy. Sounds like you've had experience in the jury room!

Not really, but I do watch Judge Judy, Judge Melin, Judge Alex, and all the other judges---you can learn a lot!!!

[*MoonRider*]

I know I have read posts where posters HOPE the trial goes in Oct, but I haven't seen a post nor heard a TH on any of the shows that anyone really thinks it will. Too bad. Except, as the time goes on, if the A's and Baez slink into the woodwork and quit the continual tv appearances and in Baez' case, the pc's, there will be NO NEED for change of venue. If THEY didn't put the case in the media every single day, as there becomes less and less new things, motions and hearings, there will be less and less morning to night coverage. IMO The only reason this case is in the media is because of George & Cindy. Had they said no comment from the very beginning there would be no media interest. Casey was in jail and could not speak, but George & Cindy and Jose made it the circus it has become. I have no doubt that Casey will be considered indigent before the trial begins and she will have a qualified lawyer. Bring on the needle, Caylee didn't stand a chance. moo

[*MoonRider*]

You keep saying things like that and you're going to find a bunch of angry bears on your lawn one morning! LOL:biggrin:

I'm scared :chicken:

[True2Blues]

I'm just sick of Cindy thinking that her grandchild is more important than other missing children. Her grandchild was murdered by her mother. Caylee is the only angel looking down upon missing children and they have to keep the memory alive by seeking donations. The donations are not to get stricter penalties for parents who murder their children but to make sure the grandparents are able to capitalize on the tragedy of a murdered child and never have to work again because they are special. What am I not understanding?

Because they are vile, despicable people who are exploiting their murdered Grandchild (who they couldn't be bothered to look for themselves.) in order to fleece the public and make a living. It's immoral and sickening in itself, add to that the fact that they found it so easy to completely dismiss Caylee, when they realized she was dead and therefore no longer of use to them, and are championing her murderer, and it's one of the most revolting things most of us have seen.

[djmsmom]

The only reason this case is in the media is because of George & Cindy. Had they said no comment from the very beginning there would be no media interest. Casey was in jail and could not speak, but George & Cindy and Jose made it the circus it has become. I have no doubt that Casey will be considered indigent before the trial begins and she will have a qualified lawyer. Bring on the needle, Caylee didn't stand a chance. moo

IMO a court appointed attn will not let JB run the show. In fact wouldn't he be dismissed from the case?

[Oregongal]

Anakerie, loved your open letter!
That Cindy saw it and wrote those so lovely, lady like comments (I say sarcastically), says to me she has alot more time on her hands than alot of do.

Quoting, snipping and bolding myself here.
I finally got to my post, since I'm continually trying to catch up....and saw that my bolded sentence should have read.....says to me she has alot more time on her hands than alot of us do.
I know, you all got it, but, my O/C couldn't let me let it go.
Also thought I'd add and say, how in the he77 does she have the time to read any blogs, message boards, comments on the news sites when she has all those thousands of support letters she continually gets?
I mean, think about it. She has this faux foundation, the work with KidFinders, the thousands of letters/emails, her appearances on tv, national or otherwise, her appointments with BC, the recent depos.....my God, she must be a superwoman in warp speed to be able to do all of this, plus.....feed and care for her dogs, her yard, her house. Shower, makeup, fix her hair (or put on wig...won't go there), pick out the clothes to wear for the day, choose all those pieces of jewlry...earring, necklaces...which locket of Caylee's ashes should I wear today?...the bracelets, the rings. Then cook or prepare...micro meals. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Neither she or George look like they are starving. Spend some time in the sun or tanning booth. Let's see what else, oh, they need to be in contact with DC about what he's possibly dug up about Jesse, Amy, Richardo...or maybe even someone not mentioned that could be the real killer. Talk to JB everyday begging to see Casey. Write letters, money orders to her. Watch every local news station plus each national tv program to see what is being said about them. Oh, and probably cruise thru the major internet news pages about the latest they are posting about them. Google their name for the latest everything about them. Go to the grocery store to buy cases of bottled water...if not....refilling the bottles they already have...ya know trying to go green :wink:
If not going to the grocery for water at least for packs and packs of gum.
Spending some time either writing checks or paying online their mortgage, their utilities, cable or satelite tv, internet service.
Cleaning the house. Taking care of the pool. Making sure everything of Caylee's, her room, her outdoor playhouse, sandbox are in pristine condition in case Greta may want to stop by again.
Oh, oh, almost forgot, conferring with the Milstead's, caring for the search boat, arranging a weekend or two on a lake or two to test it out.
Online again, researching all the ways they can avoid paying taxes. Finding exemptions for their new 'home office, supplies, phone, internet, etc' by putting that all under their new foundation status.
Logging onto Oriental Trading Co. to order all those cheap azz bears with the t-shirts that include their CMA foundation www. addy.
Well, whew, I have to say I'm exhausted just thinking of and writing down all of the the Ant's have to do each day.
Original question....where does she find the time to make these snarky (this is the nicest word I could think of) remarks in response to a wonderful, truthfilled blog by one our most caring and compassionate friends?
I'm thinking...#1 maybe LE should get a search warrant and search their house for methamphetimines, cocaine/crack, chrystal/ice....speed drugs.
Or of course #2 check off all the things she/they are not doing. Have just lied about.
I vote for #2, but of course this is all my wandering, mean, picking apart, non understanding, evil blogger mind writing here.
:tonguewag:
Whew, I feel like I need a nap now.
Unfortunantly, I have no where near the energy and time that Cindy et al seem to have.
;)

[Amy]

She could be. It's kind of hard to see what she really looks like with all the ugly that oozes out of her pores from the 'real' Cindy inside.

That's what I notice about people. You meet someone who is attractive, but if they are mean, ugly people on the inside, there physical attractiveness seems to disappear. And, you meet someone that, @ first look might not even be a 3 or 4, but because of his/her personality, demeanor, end up more like a 7 or 8--maybe even a 10!!!!

Cindy was only a 4 (being generous) in the beginning, but by now she is nearing the negative numbers!!!! By the time this is all over, I'm betting she will be a minus 10 @ least!!!!:chicken:

[Katprint]

A Judge can throw out a verdict if he feels it's completely wrong, but he has to have reasons for it. Otherwise, the jury gives a recommendation and the Judge can either go with that or give a lesser sentence, but can't move up from Life to Death. (As I understand it.)

In cases that don't involve a DP consideration, I'm not sure whether a Judge can give more time or not.
Just like the judge can dismiss a case or enter a directed verdict in favor of the defendant at the end of the prosecution's case-in-chief if the judge finds that the evidence is insufficient at that point to support a conviction but cannot change a jury's acquittal to a conviction, the judge can refuse to impose a sentence of death and can give a lesser sentence.

Also, the judge can reduce the magnitude of any conviction but cannot increase the severity i.e. the judge could reduce a First Degree Murder conviction to a Second Degree Murder conviction or even Manslaughter. However, the prosecution can appeal such a reduction and the appellate court(s) can restore the jury's initial verdict.

Some of you may remember the San Francisco dog mauling death case, where the female defendant who had been taking the vicious dogs for a walk was convicted by the jury of Second Degree Murder. The trial judge reduced the verdict to Involuntary Manslaughter on the grounds that the evidence had been insufficient to establish that the defendant subjectively knew that her conduct had a high probability of resulting in death, which the trial judge believed was required for a verdict of Second Degree Murder. The appellate court disagreed and reversed the trial judge, then it was appealed to the California Supreme Court.

California Supreme Court determined that the correct standard of implied malice was not simply an awareness of the risk of serious bodily harm, but that a defendant acted with conscious disregard of the danger to human life. The Court held that the trial court had set the bar too high, finding that implied malice would only be possible if the defendant knew his or her conduct had a high probability of resulting in death. In contrast, the Court found that the appellate court had set the bar too low, finding that implied malice would be possible if the defendant was aware her conduct risked causing serious bodily injury. The Court ordered the trial court to reconsider whether to allow the second degree murder conviction to stand, in following with the reasoning it set forth.

The trial court (the San Francisco Superior Court) re-instated the conviction for second degree murder, and on September 22, 2008, the court sentenced Marjorie Knoller to serve 15 years to life for the death of Diane Whipple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Knoller_and_Robert_Noel I followed the trial and I agreed with the trial judge's reduction. I think the evidence was insufficient to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that taking her husband's dogs for a walk - all dogs need to be walked - constituted "conscious disregard of the danger to human life." At least, no more than driving a car on the freeway would. I would have kept the Involuntary Manslaughter conviction for the outrageous and criminally negligent way that she behaved after the dogs attacked.

As a side note, Knoller had already been paroled from prison after serving 3 years of her Involuntary Manslaughter sentence, and had to return to prison when the Second Degree Murder charges were reinstated. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/22/BA9K132L18.DTL

Bottom line: It can go up, and down, and up, and down...

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Amy]

I wonder how many 10's will be on the jury?

I could see Cindy now on the media "juror 's # 3,4,6,8,10 are not 10's and the rest "may be cute but their not 10's either"...

Cindy may just insist, during jury selection, that only "10's" like her dear Casey should be allowed on her panel of "peers." You know, they have to be just as attractive as Casey (being a 10, there won't be anyone MORE attractive) AND, of course, be ever so popular and out in the social scene constantly. Only one of THEM could ever understand her need to be a free and single person, and would be able to see how the way she became that, was the only way it could be done.

I do hope Cindy realizes that she doesn't have a voice in jury selection, unless Jose hires her as one of those people who "advise" attorneys on the personalities and profiles, and who should be on the jury. (Can't remember what they are called.) Hey!!! If Cindy did this, they wouldn't have to wonder where they would come up with the money for such a person--Cindy could do it for free. Or, charge Casey, and get paid from whatever anonymous benefactor is paying some of the bills, or get it from money that is not already going to the A's---from licensing fees and all that.

[True2Blues]

That's what I notice about people. You meet someone who is attractive, but if they are mean, ugly people on the inside, there physical attractiveness seems to disappear. And, you meet someone that, @ first look might not even be a 3 or 4, but because of his/her personality, demeanor, end up more like a 7 or 8--maybe even a 10!!!!

Cindy was only a 4 (being generous) in the beginning, but by now she is nearing the negative numbers!!!! By the time this is all over, I'm betting she will be a minus 10 @ least!!!!:chicken:

She's easily there already as far as I'm concerned! LOL

[Amy]

Did the Anthonys or KFN help find them???

Well, you know they WOULD have, had anyone brought this tragedy to their attention. How could they know? LK didn't mention it on the show they were on, what are they supposed to do--read newspapers or watch television? I am sure that as soon as NG finishes her Casey segment every day, they turn off the tv, and probably don't have the sound on until they see the Caylee intro.

Besides, their emphasis is on PREVENTING a child going missing--and they haven't gotten to the daytime home invasion section of their training yet. I think they are still on the chapter of putting the boat into the water and making teddy bears.

They were right there out in CA (I've been there, San Bernadino isn't all that far from LA) why didn't they go to Briant's mom and offer their help and condolences? Well, come to think of it, good thing they didn't. I think Briant's mom did a good job of asking for help in getting her baby back. If the A's had "helped" her, and she followed their advise (example) she would have been a very disliked lady. IMO

[Oregongal]

lol, Last month I bought the "Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide"... Leather-bound with all 5 books and an extra story.. hehe.. Somewhere among my boxes are all the paperbacks too... :tongue:

Now, back to the subject at hand; Does anyone want to try to guess where the Anthony's will pop up next in the media? I mean, they've closed the door on Oprah, they've done LKL (and probably did NOT have a good time) and they've done the Early Show (free ride and all). So what's the best guess of who they will try to con into giving them air time to promote the fundation and poison the jury pool some more?

Ana, the only guess I have is local...tv and/or radio.
I honestly can't think of any other national tv. Oh, oh, oh....maybe Jerry Springer or Maury Povich.
:tongueside:
My dd said maybe South Park. :lol:

[Amy]

Anakerie, loved your open letter!
That Cindy saw it and wrote those so lovely, lady like comments (I say sarcastically), says to me she has alot more time on her hands than alot of do.
My dd and I read both your letter and Cindy's comments. Mostly made us laugh about her. It's that's time of day. :wink:
Then we started talking about me starting a blog just to try and receive things from Cindy.
You wouldn't believe some of the hiliarious things we thought of.
But, of course I wouldn't do that, I could not hold back my true feelings and anger. She can't because she's a mom who does care for her child, my gson.
We both just thought it very ironic that there is Cindy complaining and dissing bloggers (us) on LKL, but she is reading all isn't she?
Again, great job Ana!!!!
:wub:

Of course she has more time on her hands--many of us still work for a living, and even those that are retired have a lot of irons in the fire, taking care of grandchildren, volunteering for this and that, and from what I read grand and glorious yards and gardens are gracing homes from sea to sea (and THAT takes a lot of time and work.) I wonder if Cindy is still doing the yard work she did when the web cam was there? Nah, no need to go outside, there aren't reporters and protesters to confront, and it didn't sound like there ever was much interaction between the A's and the neighbors. She isn't watching after her grandbaby these days, either. Only has to worry about seeing that George has something to eat--she just drinks water and doesn't sleep. OTOH, she probably makes George fend for himself. So, she pretty much has 24/7 to read (and post on) blogs. Except, of course taking time out for the alibi tour. And depositions :chicken:

[aproudmom]

I'll never forget when I was babysitting my identical twin nephews and Mom said they won't roll. Was she wrong. Chris rolled off the bed and landed on the terazza floor. I grabbed him and picked him up and felt behind his head looking for blood. He was fine, but if he was not fine would I throw him in a garbage bag and say that the Nanny took him? I have never had such a close call with my own children. Accidents can happen but it's how you handle it after that matters. If you tell the truth nothing bad can happen. This was no accident imo

a few doors down a 3 month old died last week her parents put her on a futon said they did not know she could roll over well she did and got stuck between the futon and wall and died..so things can happen but like you said you would not have covered it up why lie if it was a horrible accident all she had to do is call 911 she would be out walking the streets right now..the more I learn the more I have no doubt she did not want this child and was not going to allow her parents to love her either so she did this an she will rot in U KNOW where..

[Amy]

I think I'm talking to myself here about this, but I can't help but wonder if Cindy isn't playing right into Jose's defense? Think about it. Everyone that ever saw Casey with Caylee said she appeared to be a loving and caring mother. There are so many photos of them smiling together. All of Casey's friends and even her family attest to that. HOWEVER, Casey's friends all say how controlling and overbearing Cindy was with Casey!

It just could be. You know, Jose is the one who fought the gag order. Maybe he's a little smarter than we are giving him credit for. They put out enough for him to throw them, or @ least Cindy, under the bus. And, possibly, quite possibly, in a passive-aggressive fashion, the A's, who publicly declare their love and support for their daughter and her innocence, MIGHT have faced the truth, and this is THEIR way to make sure she is convicted.

[Neffy]

Cindy may just insist, during jury selection, that only "10's" like her dear Casey should be allowed on her panel of "peers." You know, they have to be just as attractive as Casey (being a 10, there won't be anyone MORE attractive) AND, of course, be ever so popular and out in the social scene constantly. Only one of THEM could ever understand her need to be a free and single person, and would be able to see how the way she became that, was the only way it could be done.

I do hope Cindy realizes that she doesn't have a voice in jury selection, unless Jose hires her as one of those people who "advise" attorneys on the personalities and profiles, and who should be on the jury. (Can't remember what they are called.) Hey!!! If Cindy did this, they wouldn't have to wonder where they would come up with the money for such a person--Cindy could do it for free. Or, charge Casey, and get paid from whatever anonymous benefactor is paying some of the bills, or get it from money that is not already going to the A's---from licensing fees and all that.


The only ones with teeth like that I can even think of are the Osmonds (are there 10 of them)?

[aproudmom]

Did the Anthonys or KFN help find them???

nope who have they helped we sure would know about it..you think they would do something to help others and not make sure they got some credit..:biggrin:

[True2Blues]

The only ones with teeth like that I can even think of are the Osmonds (are there 10 of them)?

I take it we're only discussing bipeds here? Otherwise I can think of some with teeth like that....

[really3997]

Sorry had to peek in to make sure we are open...YEAH

[Neffy]

I take it we're only discussing bipeds here? Otherwise I can think of some with teeth like that....

Yep, Kentucky derby entry's don't count :)

[True2Blues]

nope who have they helped we sure would know about it..you think they would do something to help others and not make sure they got some credit..:biggrin:


What, do something for no money? That's asking a lot of the A's.

[Amy]

Don't forget that George had the killers under survelliance and Caylee was moved 9 times. http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20SpeaksDonate to me please.

Thanks for the link. He says he has been to those places. Too bad the reporter didn't ask more about them.

I don't remember the date of the video, but George is concerned that the tip line (LE) had been shut down in mid-August. Sorry, George, people could still have called say, 911, Crimestoppers, etc. I wonder if he forgets how long he drove the billboard mobile around with a number that had been disconnect IN JULY (probably never was a working number from the time he got that mobile on the road, seeing as the case "started" July 15.) Did THAT concern him? Not enough to quit driving, or to get the phone re-connected, or the bill board repainted with a working number.

[True2Blues]

Kentucky derby entry's don't count :)

Right, gotcha! :laugh:

[Amy]

Have they totally written off Geraldo yet?

I wonder why he hasn't had them on? After all, he presented as VERY pro Casey the times I have seen him.

[aproudmom]

Well, you know they WOULD have, had anyone brought this tragedy to their attention. How could they know? LK didn't mention it on the show they were on, what are they supposed to do--read newspapers or watch television? I am sure that as soon as NG finishes her Casey segment every day, they turn off the tv, and probably don't have the sound on until they see the Caylee intro.

Besides, their emphasis is on PREVENTING a child going missing--and they haven't gotten to the daytime home invasion section of their training yet. I think they are still on the chapter of putting the boat into the water and making teddy bears.

They were right there out in CA (I've been there, San Bernadino isn't all that far from LA) why didn't they go to Briant's mom and offer their help and condolences? Well, come to think of it, good thing they didn't. I think Briant's mom did a good job of asking for help in getting her baby back. If the A's had "helped" her, and she followed their advise (example) she would have been a very disliked lady. IMO

I think we all know they are not going to be doing any searches for kids and KFN well they do not even know what that means other than riding around with kids pics on a billboard and stopping to get their donation jars full until some reporter comes and calls them out so they grab the cash and run..all these people are jokes and I really feel for the ones that send money for Caylee because it will never be used to help other children let alone ones killed by their mother or father..

[forensicfan]

Is it just me or is it almost like the Anthony's don't really believe Caylee is dead or still can't face that fact?

George became furious with the attorney over the mention of Caylee's remains telling him something like "how dare you say that about her".
Unless the tape was edited, I didn't see what set him off other than the attorney referring to Caylee's body as "Caylee's remains".

They had a public memorial but still no funeral. Their fury over Casey being accused of murder and their actions are almost as if Caylee never existed or was a complete stranger that their daughter is accused of murdering.

[really3997]

Is it just me or is it almost like the Anthony's don't really believe Caylee is dead or still can't face that fact?

George became furious with the attorney over the mention of Caylee's remains telling him something like "how dare you say that about her".
Unless the tape was edited, I didn't see what set him off other than the attorney referring to Caylee's body as "Caylee's remains".

They had a public memorial but still no funeral. Their fury over Casey being accused of murder and their actions are almost as if Caylee never existed or was a complete stranger that their daughter is accused of murdering.

It is not financial feasible to put her in the murdered catagory JMO

[Katprint]

It just could be. You know, Jose is the one who fought the gag order. Maybe he's a little smarter than we are giving him credit for. They put out enough for him to throw them, or @ least Cindy, under the bus. And, possibly, quite possibly, in a passive-aggressive fashion, the A's, who publicly declare their love and support for their daughter and her innocence, MIGHT have faced the truth, and this is THEIR way to make sure she is convicted.
I think you are giving WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT to the A's. I don't think their combined intellect is up to such a complicated plot.

I think Cindy is suffering psychotic pathological denial and/or willful blindness possibly motivated by some irrational guilt concerning her failure/refusal to protect Caylee from Casey. (Not that Cindy could have obtained custody but rather that if Cindy had agreed to continue babysitting Caylee 24/7 so that Casey could go out and party then Caylee might still be alive.) I think George is so emotionally beaten down by this whole thing that he just goes along with whatever Cindy tells him to do, as the path of least resistance.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[aproudmom]

Is it just me or is it almost like the Anthony's don't really believe Caylee is dead or still can't face that fact?

George became furious with the attorney over the mention of Caylee's remains telling him something like "how dare you say that about her".
Unless the tape was edited, I didn't see what set him off other than the attorney referring to Caylee's body as "Caylee's remains".

They had a public memorial but still no funeral. Their fury over Casey being accused of murder and their actions are almost as if Caylee never existed or was a complete stranger that their daughter is accused of murdering.

I think they knew she was gone the first night they found KC or even before they both said the car smelled like a dead body so if they had contact with KC then who else could it be.. I am not so sure he was not just angry cause he felt he should not be there giving a depo on a civil suit..what did he think he should say Body or Caylee well his daughter is the one that made sure her little body was not found and only remains thanks to Roy K. or they would have nothing..and to this day has he been thanked no they have yet to thank anyone but KFN for being their friends what a freaking joke

[really3997]

Here is the question that I posted prior to us getting shut down.

If Casey is found guilty and later it is overturn due to ineffective counsel. What happens to Jose. How would he be able to practice law..

[Oregongal]

I think I'm talking to myself here about this, but I can't help but wonder if Cindy isn't playing right into Jose's defense? Think about it. Everyone that ever saw Casey with Caylee said she appeared to be a loving and caring mother. There are so many photos of them smiling together. All of Casey's friends and even her family attest to that. HOWEVER, Casey's friends all say how controlling and overbearing Cindy was with Casey!

IM, you are not talking to yourself. I'm here and reading. I just keep skipping around because when I post, I can't remember which page I quoted from and then see a post I suddenly feel like responding to. Hopefully this will explain to all how I manage to seem to be all over the place sometimes. :)
Remember that Casey as a socio was/is always playing a role. Mimicing what she believes everyone thinks is 'normal'. I have no doubt that when she was around her friends with Caylee she was the most loving, caring mother. That's what others display, she knew that is what was expected of her, she played the role. The narcissist in her certainly didn't want any of her friends or aquaintences thinking she was anything but the perfect mom. The paronoid within her wouldn't want to think they were talking behind her back and saying what an awful mom she was.
As for the photos, if you look closely at so many of the pics that were taken of Caylee and she together, Caylee doesn't look all that happy. In so many of those pics, her smile looks forced...as if someone is telling her to smile Caylee, smile. Or if you look at her eyes, she sometimes almost looks scared.
The pics where she seems to be truly smiling when she's with Casey, I believe she's actually smiling at the person who is taking the photo. The only pics I see Caylee looking like a real happy lil baby and toddler was when she was alone and the pics were taken impromtu. Just the kind of pics we've all taken of our lil ones as they were playing and being happy lil ones, we say....in this case...Caylee...they look up and are smiling, we snapped that pic. I have so many of that kind of pics of my kids when they were lil ones and they are the most precious.
I noticed this pretty early on and when my dd, Jen started looking at the pics with me the first thing she said was, Caylee doesn't look so happy with her mom.
The things that really bothered me, were all the video's taped where it seemed as if Caylee was looking at an alien being (the camera) and so unsure, unhappy and at times almost afraid.
No interaction going on with her and the person behind the camera. I would bet all of those were taken by Casey. The unattached, cold mom videoing certain times of that childs life, just because everyone else does that. How many of those vids have we seen with Caylee looking and then bringing her little pointing finger up to the lens? Lots. And I interpret that is her saying/thinking, what is this, anyone there? And of course so many of those vids had no sound. No mommy saying, Caylee, look, see, it's mommy. Caylee, I see you, peek a boo. Nothing like that, nothing at all.
As for the controlling and overbearing Cindy, well duh! We've all seen that, and I'm sure as soon as Casey turned into a teen she started telling every person she came across, friend or not, how Cindy was. BUT! That is not a defense in any sense of the word for Casey killing her own baby.
It's a reason for a young woman of 18 to 22 yrs of age to get herself a good job, or even get on welfare, and move out on her own and take care of her baby without her mother's influence, control or overbearence. It is never a reason for that same young woman to kill her daughter to hurt, display her hatred, anger and resentment of said mother.
Sorry, I don't think a jury of reasonable people will even consider Cindy's behavior, personality and/or mental proclivities as a defense for Casey.
Surely, JB is not going to try this....it's because of Cindy defense.
Well, maybe he will, he's not the brightest color in the crayon box.
:rolleyes:

[Amy]

LOL on that one! :thumbsup:

Question: If Casey is found guilty, does she automatically get the DP? Or do the jurors come back later and decide on punishment?

In most of the cases I have seen, the DP is one of the options for sentencing, if it's on the table. The jury (or whomever determines the sentence) chooses from one of the options DP, LWOP, Life, whatever is listed. I have heard of cases where the only option for VERDICT is Murder 1 (and people have walked because the jury would have convicted on another level) but I don't know of any case where the only sentencing option was DP. (But, I haven't followed every case, nor read statutes from every state.)

[Oregongal]

I hope Ciindy's stupid e-mail means she is back in Florida. I have been looking for her limo in CA - thought she might be looking to settle in Beverly Hills to be the new Bev Hillbillies.

Looks like she thinks she should change her name to Bo to star in the movie or whatever she is writing in her media book. Can you imagine her masculine face with Bo Derek's hairdo - GA could pretend he is George Hamilton (sorry, GH ) Cindy "Bo", you are not a 10 inside or out and neither is OD. Why does GA feel he has to tell everyone he is not an idiot?

Oh Susaanh, thanks for the laugh of my day!!
Love the Bo D reference (even tho it is dating me) and only idiots have to keep trying to assure everyone they aren't idiots.
:tonguewag:

[summer4meplz]

I think you are giving WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT to the A's. I don't think their combined intellect is up to such a complicated plot.

I think Cindy is suffering psychotic pathological denial and/or willful blindness possibly motivated by some irrational guilt concerning her failure/refusal to protect Caylee from Casey. (Not that Cindy could have obtained custody but rather that if Cindy had agreed to continue babysitting Caylee 24/7 so that Casey could go out and party then Caylee might still be alive.) I think George is so emotionally beaten down by this whole thing that he just goes along with whatever Cindy tells him to do, as the path of least resistance.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I think it could be motivated more by greed than guilt.....:thumbdown:

[really3997]

my bold

Same as he did before -- badly.

Ok..if this worked and Casey won..wouldn't every alleged criminal seek him out for this very reason..What SA would want him in the court room with them...Are not ineffective always one you are proved to be...

[Amy]

:scared:

I still can't believe that Cindy winked at Brad Conway like that at the deposition. I mean this was supposed to be a serious proceeding, and they made it into a total circus.:thumbdown:

And, aren't depositions usually question and answer sessions? Are they often a platform for debate? The A's would have been SO much better off saying "Yes" "No" "I don't know" and leaving it @ that, instead of arguing each and every question, whether that question would have a negative effect on Casey or themselves or not. IN FACT, anything that might NOT have been a negative, soon turned into one, just by their belligerence. IMO

[aproudmom]

Here is the question that I posted prior to us getting shut down.

If Casey is found guilty and later it is overturn due to ineffective counsel. What happens to Jose. How would he be able to practice law..

Just like he is right now..most do say that he has one client who killed a child saying he was ineffective counsel..it is normal for them to say that before sentencing or if they are trying to get a appeal or a new trial..

[Amy]

Because they are vile, despicable people who are exploiting their murdered Grandchild (who they couldn't be bothered to look for themselves.) in order to fleece the public and make a living. It's immoral and sickening in itself, add to that the fact that they found it so easy to completely dismiss Caylee, when they realized she was dead and therefore no longer of use to them, and are championing her murderer, and it's one of the most revolting things most of us have seen.

George says he went to the places where Caylee had been (you know, they were always a step behind the kidnappers.) Now, THAT was looking for her, huh? IF he really went to those places, they must have been right in the Orlando area because @ that time, George was driving the hup-mobile around with the disconnect phone # on the billboard every day, he was @ wherever the KFN kiosk was, everyday. And, every night he was on his lawn bickering with the protesters. So, those 9 places must have been right there. I wonder, WHO was moving Caylee's body around @ that time. (Really, tho, I never believed the PI had tracked the kidnappers and Caylee 9 places, always just missing them by minutes or hours.)

[aproudmom]

And, aren't depositions usually question and answer sessions? Are they often a platform for debate? The A's would have been SO much better off saying "Yes" "No" "I don't know" and leaving it @ that, instead of arguing each and every question, whether that question would have a negative effect on Casey or themselves or not. IN FACT, anything that might NOT have been a negative, soon turned into one, just by their belligerence. IMO

Now Amy do not be a sad blogger and pick them apart:tonguewag:
I think they have shown themselves more than once that was the Anthony's just like KC tantrum she threw in the jail visit..they are nuts sorry no other explanation for it..O my God Total waste..seems I remember someone saying that when she was angry she was in jail and mommy dearest was doing a cameo and everyone was hanging out at her house..all she cared about was TonE and his number..

[forensicfan]

I think they knew she was gone the first night they found KC or even before they both said the car smelled like a dead body so if they had contact with KC then who else could it be.. I am not so sure he was not just angry cause he felt he should not be there giving a depo on a civil suit..what did he think he should say Body or Caylee well his daughter is the one that made sure her little body was not found and only remains thanks to Roy K. or they would have nothing..and to this day has he been thanked no they have yet to thank anyone but KFN for being their friends what a freaking joke

True but I still can't get over the fact that they seemed to have swept Caylee's memory under the rug in lieu of trying to get Casey set free.

[Amy]

IMO a court appointed attn will not let JB run the show. In fact wouldn't he be dismissed from the case?

I don't know. There is that part about a defendant having the right to an attorney of her choice, so they might have to leave him on, he just couldn't run the show. And, I would assume, he would have to accept the reduced monies allowed public defenders. It might be up to the appointed attorney, if he wants to keep Baez on.

[aproudmom]

George says he went to the places where Caylee had been (you know, they were always a step behind the kidnappers.) Now, THAT was looking for her, huh? IF he really went to those places, they must have been right in the Orlando area because @ that time, George was driving the hup-mobile around with the disconnect phone # on the billboard every day, he was @ wherever the KFN kiosk was, everyday. And, every night he was on his lawn bickering with the protesters. So, those 9 places must have been right there. I wonder, WHO was moving Caylee's body around @ that time. (Really, tho, I never believed the PI had tracked the kidnappers and Caylee 9 places, always just missing them by minutes or hours.)

OK just were had Caylee been we do not see pics at the park we do not see pic with her at others b-day parties..where do we see her in their backyard a few at the ocean as mommy is sucking away on her sucker..other than that I have seen no proof she went anywhere else and do not even think GA would know where his daughter was really taking her...to the no clothes party sure he was not aware of that...It is odd to me maybe just me reading into it to much but I have tons of pics of my kids every where I took them even to the park to swing and play with other kids..

[Amy]

nope who have they helped we sure would know about it..you think they would do something to help others and not make sure they got some credit..:biggrin:

I notice they are not tooting their horns about George going to Sutsuma to avail himself to the Cummings'. Oh, yeah, seems he was told to leave, guess we wouldn't want to even MENTION that little trip.

[aproudmom]

True but I still can't get over the fact that they seemed to have swept Caylee's memory under the rug in lieu of trying to get Casey set free.

I am not sure they want her set free..I think it is their image they are worried about not hers..if she did not do this why are they not paying 20 PI's to find the killer so there daughter does not get the needle they say they are leaving it up to JB O please they hate him..

[Katprint]

I think it could be motivated more by greed than guilt.....:thumbdown:
I agree that the Anthonys seem to have decided that since it is raining lemons, they will make lemonade. That their granddaughter was turned into the fertilizer for the lemon tree from which those lemons came would deter most people but the Anthonys seem to be made of sterner/greedier stuff.

However, I don't think that pure greed, standing alone, can explain Cindy's irrational denials concerning Casey's likely guilt. Also, if Cindy REALLY wanted to make big money then she would shut up and wait for Casey to be convicted, and then Cindy could sell off all of the Caylee memorabilia. The conviction would cause Casey to forfeit any inheritance rights to Caylee's estate so it would pass to the next heir(s) in line which - since the identity of Caylee's father is not known - would be Cindy and George. No doubt freakishly disturbed people would buy soil from under the playhouse - where Caylee's body may have been hidden temporarily - just like they bought dirt from the crawlspace under John Wayne Gacy's house. The Anthonys could even sell off Caylee's toys, furniture and clothing as well as the videos and photos they have sold thus far.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[aproudmom]

I notice they are not tooting their horns about George going to Sutsuma to avail himself to the Cummings'. Oh, yeah, seems he was told to leave, guess we wouldn't want to even MENTION that little trip.

yep he was not there to long was he..it is pretty much a circus there now poor little girl you hear about everything but her..

[Lavinia]

I agree that the Anthonys seem to have decided that since it is raining lemons, they will make lemonade. That their granddaughter was turned into the fertilizer for the lemon tree from which those lemons came would deter most people but the Anthonys seem to be made of sterner/greedier stuff.

However, I don't think that pure greed, standing alone, can explain Cindy's irrational denials concerning Casey's likely guilt. Also, if Cindy REALLY wanted to make big money then she would shut up and wait for Casey to be convicted, and then Cindy could sell off all of the Caylee memorabilia. The conviction would cause Casey to forfeit any inheritance rights to Caylee's estate so it would pass to the next heir(s) in line which - since the identity of Caylee's father is not known - would be Cindy and George. No doubt freakishly disturbed people would buy soil from under the playhouse - where Caylee's body may have been hidden temporarily - just like they bought dirt from the crawlspace under John Wayne Gacy's house. The Anthonys could even sell off Caylee's toys, furniture and clothing as well as the videos and photos they have sold thus far.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I agree with you KP. But, then I think that for her to be so blatant to sell memorabilia or such, would be so beyond the pale as to not really be feasible. I was going to say that surely she would know this but I don't know how she "works" so I'm lost with her. I think it's a combination of desperation and just an obnoxious character that drives her.

[Dick Tracy]

my bold

Same as he did before -- badly.

Lizzie, you are just too funny.

[Dick Tracy]

If you had to rank Casey Anthony among famous SOCIOPATHS or CRIMINALS in American History, where would she place?

I think she'll go down with the likes of Lizzie Borden myself, although I don't know if Lizzie Borden was a sociopath per say.

[Dick Tracy]

I agree that the Anthonys seem to have decided that since it is raining lemons, they will make lemonade. That their granddaughter was turned into the fertilizer for the lemon tree from which those lemons came would deter most people but the Anthonys seem to be made of sterner/greedier stuff.

However, I don't think that pure greed, standing alone, can explain Cindy's irrational denials concerning Casey's likely guilt. Also, if Cindy REALLY wanted to make big money then she would shut up and wait for Casey to be convicted, and then Cindy could sell off all of the Caylee memorabilia. The conviction would cause Casey to forfeit any inheritance rights to Caylee's estate so it would pass to the next heir(s) in line which - since the identity of Caylee's father is not known - would be Cindy and George. No doubt freakishly disturbed people would buy soil from under the playhouse - where Caylee's body may have been hidden temporarily - just like they bought dirt from the crawlspace under John Wayne Gacy's house. The Anthonys could even sell off Caylee's toys, furniture and clothing as well as the videos and photos they have sold thus far.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Kat, did the cadaver dogs hit by the playhouse, I never knew anything about a placehouse in the back yard... Do tell (if you are still here).

[seeing_eye]

I wonder why he hasn't had them on? After all, he presented as VERY pro Casey the times I have seen him.

Geraldo may be pro-Casey, but if Jose and Casey has any say about it, he may not be pro-Cindy.

[aproudmom]

Geraldo may be pro-Casey, but if Jose and Casey has any say about it, he may not be pro-Cindy.

OK how odd just had fox on and he got some wierd text saying he should have been killed in IRAQ and then I jump back on and I see Geraldo :scared: omg someone is not happy with him..just caught me off guard when seen his name in a post..:biggrin:

[seeing_eye]

Is it just me or is it almost like the Anthony's don't really believe Caylee is dead or still can't face that fact?

George became furious with the attorney over the mention of Caylee's remains telling him something like "how dare you say that about her".
Unless the tape was edited, I didn't see what set him off other than the attorney referring to Caylee's body as "Caylee's remains".

They had a public memorial but still no funeral. Their fury over Casey being accused of murder and their actions are almost as if Caylee never existed or was a complete stranger that their daughter is accused of murdering.

I think it may still be a possibility that the Anthonys may propose that the child found in the woods was not the body of Caylee. You know, how they don't think scientific evidence is "facts," and their tendency to disbelieve FBI lab reports. You know, in the same way that "dead body smell" turned out to be rotting pizza! Because of the Anthonys' propensity for stating that black is actually white, I would not be the least bit surprised if they began maintaining that Caylee is still alive.

[aproudmom]

I wonder why he hasn't had them on? After all, he presented as VERY pro Casey the times I have seen him.

maybe they don't film anymore when they go out on his yacht..since they were such good buddies..I think it was more pro-Bozo more than pro KC

[aproudmom]

I think it may still be a possibility that the Anthonys may propose that the child found in the woods was not the body of Caylee. You know, how they don't think scientific evidence is "facts," and their tendency to disbelieve FBI lab reports. You know, in the same way that "dead body smell" turned out to be rotting pizza! Because of the Anthonys' propensity for stating that black is actually white, I would not be the least bit surprised if they began maintaining that Caylee is still alive.

All I can say is LOL :biggrin:
but now wait they don't know if she was there in August they didn't tell LK she was not found there they just don't know that she was there when RK made the first call..so there is part of the defense she was dumped after KC went to jail..duh like we did not know they would say that.,.

[Dick Tracy]

I think it may still be a possibility that the Anthonys may propose that the child found in the woods was not the body of Caylee. You know, how they don't think scientific evidence is "facts," and their tendency to disbelieve FBI lab reports. You know, in the same way that "dead body smell" turned out to be rotting pizza! Because of the Anthonys' propensity for stating that black is actually white, I would not be the least bit surprised if they began maintaining that Caylee is still alive.

evening....

I think their's too much evidence for even stupid people like them to propose that Caylee is still alive. I personally feel that the state of Florida has a 100% link from the crime scene to Casey, hence the DP back on the table. Don't know why I think this, but that's usually the case (me thinks).

moo

[Oregongal]

This woman (Casey) is not depressed and never has been depressed. Depression is a feeling and Casey has absolutely no feelings.
JMO

Actually Dianna, depression is not a feeling, it's a disease.
But, ITA Casey does not have the feelings 'normal' people have.
Her feelings come from a sick, twisted place within that we really can't truly understand.
The tears we've seen, as at that presser right before she was arrested for Murder 1 after the GJ, the tears she seemed to shed when she first appeared before a judge...were not tears of grief or sadness for her daughter. They were tears of anger and frustration that she had been caught. She was feeling sorry for herself. She was not even feeling sorry that she was being accused of something she didn't do. She was upset because she'd been found out and caught. She was upset that she was placed in a position she had no idea how on earth she was supposed to act. What to portray to her parents, her friends, her lover Tony, the world. She was thrown into a situation because of her actions that she didn't have any idea, example or standard to know how to react. She will continue to claim innocence because not only in her mind she did nothing wrong, but that is the only standard, example she can come up with in her twisted mind. She has seen movies, tv programs where guilty people claim innocence.
She will blame someone else for everything, because that's all she's ever seen in these same movies and tv programs.
She is a socio/narcissist who has always and will always continue to think of herself and how everyone around her is there to feed her. When, for whatever reason, there is no one there to feed this monster she will pour out the tears if that is what people expect. She will rage with anger and frustration if that is what people expect.
She will express nothing when she doesn't know what people expect or if someone (JB/LKB) is telling her that is what she should express.
When she talked about Zanny giving her a script to follow, in her mind she was telling the truth because she probably was following a script from one of the movies she and Tony rented at Blockbuster or from that One Tree Hill tv program.
Sadly, Caylee, an innocent baby lost her life because for some reason Casey's life script did not include, or go further on into a toddler growing into a child with her own personality, her expanding vocabulary and Casey had no idea how to handle that and continue on with what she wanted to do. Party hearty, sleep around, so what she wanted when she wanted whenever she wanted.
Caylee began to turn from a little doll that willingly put up with costumes, necklaces, sunglasses and hats to a little girl who may have skipped the terrible twos (as my dd did) and went into the bitchy threes (as my dd did :)
Casey no longer had an example or 'script' to follow and decided Caylee had to just disappear. With no real mother to guide her, just critisize and put her down, no idea of the reality of how to mother or love her child, her solution was to dispose of her problem.
Sick. But, no excuse, no real reason, just her twisted mind doing what she thought best.
She definantly needs to be gone herself.
:cursing:

[aproudmom]

evening....

I think their's too much evidence for even stupid people like them to propose that Caylee is still alive. I personally feel that the state of Florida has a 100% link from the crime scene to Casey, hence the DP back on the table. Don't know why I think this, but that's usually the case (me thinks).

moo

lol ITA..I may be a sad overweight blogger but not stupid by any means:wink:

[Dick Tracy]

**Snipped**

The tears we've seen, as at that presser right before she was arrested for Murder 1 after the GJ, the tears she seemed to shed when she first appeared before a judge...were not tears of grief or sadness for her daughter. They were tears of anger and frustration that she had been caught. She was feeling sorry for herself. She was not even feeling sorry that she was being accused of something she didn't do. She was upset because she'd been found out and caught. She was upset that she was placed in a position she had no idea how on earth she was supposed to act. What to portray to her parents, her friends, her lover Tony, the world. She was thrown into a situation because of her actions that she didn't have any idea, example or standard to know how to react. She will continue to claim innocence because not only in her mind she did nothing wrong, but that is the only standard, example she can come up with in her twisted mind. She has seen movies, tv programs where guilty people claim innocence.
She will blame someone else for everything, because that's all she's ever seen in these same movies and tv programs.She is a socio/narcissist who has always and will always continue to think of herself and how everyone around her is there to feed her. When, for whatever reason, there is no one there to feed this monster she will pour out the tears if that is what people expect. She will rage with anger and frustration if that is what people expect.
She will express nothing when she doesn't know what people expect or if someone (JB/LKB) is telling her that is what she should express.
When she talked about Zanny giving her a script to follow, in her mind she was telling the truth because she probably was following a script from one of the movies she and Tony rented at Blockbuster or from that One Tree Hill tv program.
Sadly, Caylee, an innocent baby lost her life because for some reason Casey's life script did not include, or go further on into a toddler growing into a child with her own personality, her expanding vocabulary and Casey had no idea how to handle that and continue on with what she wanted to do. Party hearty, sleep around, so what she wanted when she wanted whenever she wanted.
Caylee began to turn from a little doll that willingly put up with costumes, necklaces, sunglasses and hats to a little girl who may have skipped the terrible twos (as my dd did) and went into the bitchy threes (as my dd did :)
Casey no longer had an example or 'script' to follow and decided Caylee had to just disappear. With no real mother to guide her, just critisize and put her down, no idea of the reality of how to mother or love her child, her solution was to dispose of her problem.
Sick. But, no excuse, no real reason, just her twisted mind doing what she thought best.
She definantly needs to be gone herself.
:cursing:

Great post, bolding mine. Couldn't agree more. I bet she learned about decomposing bodies from that video they rented on the 16th of June.

[Dick Tracy]

lol ITA..I may be a sad overweight blogger but not stupid by any means:wink:

OH no! did you think I suggested you were stupid? NO NO! My post didn't mean that at all!

[aproudmom]

Actually Dianna, depression is not a feeling, it's a disease. But, ITA Casey does not have the feelings 'normal' people have.
Her feelings come from a sick, twisted place within that we really can't truly understand.
The tears we've seen, as at that presser right before she was arrested for Murder 1 after the GJ, the tears she seemed to shed when she first appeared before a judge...were not tears of grief or sadness for her daughter. They were tears of anger and frustration that she had been caught. She was feeling sorry for herself. She was not even feeling sorry that she was being accused of something she didn't do. She was upset because she'd been found out and caught. She was upset that she was placed in a position she had no idea how on earth she was supposed to act. What to portray to her parents, her friends, her lover Tony, the world. She was thrown into a situation because of her actions that she didn't have any idea, example or standard to know how to react. She will continue to claim innocence because not only in her mind she did nothing wrong, but that is the only standard, example she can come up with in her twisted mind. She has seen movies, tv programs where guilty people claim innocence.
She will blame someone else for everything, because that's all she's ever seen in these same movies and tv programs.
She is a socio/narcissist who has always and will always continue to think of herself and how everyone around her is there to feed her. When, for whatever reason, there is no one there to feed this monster she will pour out the tears if that is what people expect. She will rage with anger and frustration if that is what people expect.
She will express nothing when she doesn't know what people expect or if someone (JB/LKB) is telling her that is what she should express.
When she talked about Zanny giving her a script to follow, in her mind she was telling the truth because she probably was following a script from one of the movies she and Tony rented at Blockbuster or from that One Tree Hill tv program.
Sadly, Caylee, an innocent baby lost her life because for some reason Casey's life script did not include, or go further on into a toddler growing into a child with her own personality, her expanding vocabulary and Casey had no idea how to handle that and continue on with what she wanted to do. Party hearty, sleep around, so what she wanted when she wanted whenever she wanted.
Caylee began to turn from a little doll that willingly put up with costumes, necklaces, sunglasses and hats to a little girl who may have skipped the terrible twos (as my dd did) and went into the bitchy threes (as my dd did :)
Casey no longer had an example or 'script' to follow and decided Caylee had to just disappear. With no real mother to guide her, just critisize and put her down, no idea of the reality of how to mother or love her child, her solution was to dispose of her problem.
Sick. But, no excuse, no real reason, just her twisted mind doing what she thought best.
She definantly needs to be gone herself.
:cursing:

my bolding

Ogal ITA and have suffered with depression for over 15 yrs it is a disease so many do not understand..I am sorry I do not even see depression in GA or CA and them throwing around the I am going to kill myself..first of all you never tell anyone you just do it...they were looking for attention I have no doubt they grieve for Caylee but I do not think either one of them were going to off themselves...JMO

[aproudmom]

OH no! did you think I suggested you were stupid? NO NO! My post didn't mean that at all!

NO I was joking..sorry I knew what you were saying...lol

[Dick Tracy]

NO I was joking..sorry I knew what you were saying...lol

Phew.. I'm sort of outnumbered in here, so I have to be very careful that something............ ahhh never mind!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

[aproudmom]

Great post, bolding mine. Couldn't agree more. I bet she learned about decomposing bodies from that video they rented on the 16th of June.

I just wonder who picked those movies out? you think she will say TonE did or she did..:sneaky: she is one sick EVIL I don't even want to say person Monster is much better for her..

[aproudmom]

Phew.. I'm sort of outnumbered in here, so I have to be very careful that something............ ahhh never mind!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

no you are fine I was just joking cause CA says we are sad bloggers and then today she ask Ank if she was overweight..and you said no one would be that stupid..so had to throw it in there just to joke around..you not out numbered your Dick Tracy..:tonguewag:

cheer up you seem kinda down..

[Dick Tracy]

no you are fine I was just joking cause CA says we are sad bloggers and then today she ask Ank if she was overweight..and you said no one would be that stupid..so had to throw it in there just to joke around..you not out numbered your Dick Tracy..:tonguewag:

cheer up you seem kinda down..

No one will dance with me :(

I did alot around here today, cut the grass, cleaned carpets, changed the oil, cleaned parrot cages... Fell asleep on the couch.

Hey, I have a question.. Do you know which of the two cell phone towers near the Anthony received the majority of the pings when the OC was at the house? I know there were two cell phone towers.

[Dick Tracy]

I just wonder who picked those movies out? you think she will say TonE did or she did..:sneaky: she is one sick EVIL I don't even want to say person Monster is much better for her..

I'm going to rent those movies. I want to see what in hades was so interesting to Casey in those movies, that she was able to glean from reading the back of the box at Blockbuster before she rented those two particular movies. I'm sure she picked them out, she always wanted to be in control (like duh, you know who - Cindy Anthony).

[aproudmom]

No one will dance with me :(

I did alot around here today, cut the grass, cleaned carpets, changed the oil, cleaned parrot cages... Fell asleep on the couch.

Hey, I have a question.. Do you know which of the two cell phone towers near the Anthony received the majority of the pings when the OC was at the house? I know there were two cell phone towers.

omg you were busy today I did not do anything but watch Nascar..lol..I would have to go back and look at the docs..I am not sure about the towers I am actually going to re read everything when I get time..so much to remember..

[aproudmom]

I'm going to rent those movies. I want to see what in hades was so interesting to Casey in those movies, that she was able to glean from reading the back of the box at Blockbuster before she rented those two particular movies. I'm sure she picked them out, she always wanted to be in control (like duh, you know who - Cindy Anthony).

OMG I watched just a clip on YouTube can not remember the name of it but the one with the duct tape on the guys mouth..it freaked me out just thinking about it..

[Dick Tracy]

OMG I watched just a clip on YouTube can not remember the name of it but the one with the duct tape on the guys mouth..it freaked me out just thinking about it..

I just can't imagine someone doing that to their own CHILD. God. And then TRIPLE BAGGING little Caylee.................... like she's TRASH.

[aproudmom]

I just can't imagine someone doing that to their own CHILD. God. And then TRIPLE BAGGING little Caylee.................... like she's TRASH.

I know I can not imagine how a mother could do this to her child..and then to be so stupid to dump her so close to the house did she not know they usually look close to the home..most kids that go missing are found with in 3 miles of the home and are dead with in 3/4 hours..did we ever find out if she did in fact look up a site on missing kids? I have read and listened to everything but so much to remember.

we did get good news though the little boy from CA was found in MX and the little 4yr old girl was also found this week and the little boy that wondered off was found safe..but did just read they found a child buried at a playground in the sand and no missing child report has been filed:sneaky:

[Oregongal]

I agree that the Anthonys seem to have decided that since it is raining lemons, they will make lemonade. That their granddaughter was turned into the fertilizer for the lemon tree from which those lemons came would deter most people but the Anthonys seem to be made of sterner/greedier stuff.

However, I don't think that pure greed, standing alone, can explain Cindy's irrational denials concerning Casey's likely guilt. Also, if Cindy REALLY wanted to make big money then she would shut up and wait for Casey to be convicted, and then Cindy could sell off all of the Caylee memorabilia. The conviction would cause Casey to forfeit any inheritance rights to Caylee's estate so it would pass to the next heir(s) in line which - since the identity of Caylee's father is not known - would be Cindy and George. No doubt freakishly disturbed people would buy soil from under the playhouse - where Caylee's body may have been hidden temporarily - just like they bought dirt from the crawlspace under John Wayne Gacy's house. The Anthonys could even sell off Caylee's toys, furniture and clothing as well as the videos and photos they have sold thus far.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I agree Kat it is not 'pure greed, standing alone'....right now.
There's a whole lot more behind the Ant's behavior. I also think that it will possibly turn into pure greed after our hoped for conviction.
I surely can see them doing just exactly what you describe...selling off any and all Caylee memorabilia, including soil from under the playhouse and all her clothes, toys, etc. I can even see these Ant's even selling 'cremataion memorabilia'...pendants, braclets with tiny amounts of Caylee's ashes included. All they have to do is google murder memorabilia and find there is a market for this.
I remember how there were those gathering and selling anything they could get ahold of from the 9-11 Twin Tower horror immediatly after. Some of which was being claimed to possibly be ashes of those who died that day. AND there were people buying these things. barf
It was a short lived thing because so many were outraged and the officials locked down the whole area very quickly, but there are freaky people out there who will try and make a buck anyway they can and somehow I can see the Ant's doing this same thing. I have posted before that I almost feel as if the Ant's are deliberatly trying to sabbotage Casey and any defense she and her dream team could possibly go for to make sure she is convicted.
As sick and weird as this family is I would not be surprised in the least to find that they have this sort of thing on their agenda for their future.
I would be horrified, but not surprised.
I know this sound extremely harsh about grandparents who have lost their grandaughter, but their disregard and disrespect for Caylee, especially in these last few months seems extremely harsh to me as a somewhat normal, loving mother and grandmother.

[aproudmom]

I just can't imagine someone doing that to their own CHILD. God. And then TRIPLE BAGGING little Caylee.................... like she's TRASH.

do you think she had her in her trunk or had her somewhere at the home and went back and moved her and perhaps kept her in the car for a few days..I just wonder why those dogs hit there but nothing was ever found and then you have the shovel being borrowed and the neighbor saying he saw her backing into the garage which was not normal..I just do not know how they live there not knowing if that is were she could have took Caylee's life..I know I could not even if I had to sleep in a tent..but that is just me I guess

[aproudmom]

I agree Kat it is not 'pure greed, standing alone'....right now.
There's a whole lot more behind the Ant's behavior. I also think that it will possibly turn into pure greed after our hoped for conviction.
I surely can see them doing just exactly what you describe...selling off any and all Caylee memorabilia, including soil from under the playhouse and all her clothes, toys, etc. I can even see these Ant's even selling 'cremataion memorabilia'...pendants, braclets with tiny amounts of Caylee's ashes included. All they have to do is google murder memorabilia and find there is a market for this.
I remember how there were those gathering and selling anything they could get ahold of from the 9-11 Twin Tower horror immediatly after. Some of which was being claimed to possibly be ashes of those who died that day. AND there were people buying these things. barf
It was a short lived thing because so many were outraged and the officials locked down the whole area very quickly, but there are freaky people out there who will try and make a buck anyway they can and somehow I can see the Ant's doing this same thing. I have posted before that I almost feel as if the Ant's are deliberatly trying to sabbotage Casey and any defense she and her dream team could possibly go for to make sure she is convicted.
As sick and weird as this family is I would not be surprised in the least to find that they have this sort of thing on their agenda for their future.
I would be horrified, but not surprised.
I know this sound extremely harsh about grandparents who have lost their grandaughter, but their disregard and disrespect for Caylee, especially in these last few months seems extremely harsh to me as a somewhat normal, loving mother and grandmother.

omg I could not even part with a hairbrush let alone sell anything of my child's or grandchild's..sick sick sick..but you seem to pretty much have them down..as sad as it is.

[Dick Tracy]

I know I can not imagine how a mother could do this to her child..and then to be so stupid to dump her so close to the house did she not know they usually look close to the home..most kids that go missing are found with in 3 miles of the home and are dead with in 3/4 hours..did we ever find out if she did in fact look up a site on missing kids? I have read and listened to everything but so much to remember.

we did get good news though the little boy from CA was found in MX and the little 4yr old girl was also found this week and the little boy that wondered off was found safe..but did just read they found a child buried at a playground in the sand and no missing child report has been filed:sneaky:

Oh yeah, finding that little boy was AMAZING. PRAISE God.

The reason I asked.... It's not clear (as far as I can tell), where Caylee died. Did she die in the backyard of the Anthony's residence? In the trunk of the car? I'm trying to narrow down Casey's movements on the 16th of June, (was she at home after GA went to work and before Cindy got home from work) There's a huge hole of time there were Casey is off the phone.

[aproudmom]

Oh yeah, finding that little boy was AMAZING. PRAISE God.

The reason I asked.... It's not clear (as far as I can tell), where Caylee died. Did she die in the backyard of the Anthony's residence? In the trunk of the car? I'm trying to narrow down Casey's movements on the 16th of June, (was she at home after GA went to work and before Cindy got home from work) There's a huge hole of time there were Casey is off the phone.

I am almost sure she returned to the house after he left..I think I may take tomorrow or today I guess I should say and read everything again..need to refresh my brain since so much has been released,..but I am almost sure she returned to the home..

[Dick Tracy]

do you think she had her in her trunk or had her somewhere at the home and went back and moved her and perhaps kept her in the car for a few days..I just wonder why those dogs hit there but nothing was ever found and then you have the shovel being borrowed and the neighbor saying he saw her backing into the garage which was not normal..I just do not know how they live there not knowing if that is were she could have took Caylee's life..I know I could not even if I had to sleep in a tent..but that is just me I guess

Now you're thinking... I LIKE THAT.

I'm going to surmise that Caylee drowned, left unattended in the pool. Neglect City. I looked at the computer logs for the 16th for the Anthony home computer. There is hard disk activity in the 1400 hour. That's important. That means that the computer had to be turned on, if it had been turned off. (duh Dick). George wasn't home, Cindy's at work. Who's on the computer? Casey. Where's Caylee? In the pool, drowning on her own.

edited---------
After I read my post, my synopsis of that timeframe seems like a stretch, based on all the other documents that have been released. Googling, neck breaking, shovel, chloroform. Remember, chloroform I think was found in the air sample in the trunk, right?

[aproudmom]

Oh yeah, finding that little boy was AMAZING. PRAISE God.

The reason I asked.... It's not clear (as far as I can tell), where Caylee died. Did she die in the backyard of the Anthony's residence? In the trunk of the car? I'm trying to narrow down Casey's movements on the 16th of June, (was she at home after GA went to work and before Cindy got home from work) There's a huge hole of time there were Casey is off the phone.

also in looking at he text and calls you will see she calls the house or them several days I think to see if anyone was home..this goes on for a couple days then all of a sudden she doesn't call like that..but every time her mom calls from her cell or from the home number she does not answer she will call her voicemail.and call or text when she knows they are not there...a big change IMO..she was avoiding them and CA caught on just by what she says on that blog she wrote ..she says something like you only call when you know we are not home..:sneaky:

[Oregongal]

If you had to rank Casey Anthony among famous SOCIOPATHS or CRIMINALS in American History, where would she place?

I think she'll go down with the likes of Lizzie Borden myself, although I don't know if Lizzie Borden was a sociopath per say.

This is a trick question DT.
Not all socio's are criminals and not all criminals are socio's.
I would have read again about Lizzie B to look on her with my older, more educated eyes to decide whether or not she was a socio. I can say one thing, I believe she was a narcissist.
Especially since in those days, looong before my time of course LOL, 'they' didn't have the quantifications, standards and terms we now have for many of the psychological disorders we are seeing so often in the people committing crimes these days.
As for Casey, I see her as I see Diane Downs, diagnosed with
sociopathic/narcissist/histrionic personality disorder(s) and she's a criminal obviously.
Hmmmm, trick question or not, a very interesting one to ponder.
I do believe we will eventually see her as the subject of one or another or all of those true life crime shows they televise, such as 'Women Behind Bars', '48 Hours: Hard Evidence', 'Dateline', etc, etc.
There could even be a made for tv movie (Ant's and/or JB receiving mucho $$ for). I'm sure there will be books written about her.
This all of course at this point, depends on a conviction. But, I have no doubt she will eventually rank among the famous female criminals in American History. Right along with Lizzie. OOooops.....Lizzie Borden, not our lovely lizzie girl.
:wink:

[Dick Tracy]

also in looking at he text and calls you will see she calls the house or them several days I think to see if anyone was home..this goes on for a couple days then all of a sudden she doesn't call like that..but every time her mom calls from her cell or from the home number she does not answer she will call her voicemail.and call or text when she knows they are not there...a big change IMO..she was avoiding them and CA caught on just by what she says on that blog she wrote ..she says something like you only call when you know we are not home..:sneaky:

Excellent Sleuthing..... Makes total sense. When the myspace was edited by CA on 7/3, she did in fact say that. I think you need to join NODA.

[aproudmom]

Now you're thinking... I LIKE THAT.

I'm going to surmise that Caylee drowned, left unattended in the pool. Neglect City. I looked at the computer logs for the 16th for the Anthony home computer. There is hard disk activity in the 1400 hour. That's important. That means that the computer had to be turned on, if it had been turned off. (duh Dick). George wasn't home, Cindy's at work. Who's on the computer? Casey. Where's Caylee? In the pool, drowning on her own.

edited---------
After I read my post, my synopsis of that timeframe seems like a stretch, based on all the other documents that have been released. Googling, neck breaking, shovel, chloroform. Remember, chloroform I think was found in the air sample in the trunk, right?

see that is what I have always thought for one the ladder..red flag 2 the hit on the back yard 3 the calls non stop to her parents cell and work and they do not answer then all of a sudden nothing..and like you said the computer activity..no one else was there they have checked CA and GA and they were at work at that time..and it is very sad cause if it was a horrible accident then all she had to do was call 911 was she so afraid to let her mom know that she would do all this...I just do not get it..

[Dick Tracy]

This is a trick question DT.
Not all socio's are criminals and not all criminals are socio's.
I would have read again about Lizzie B to look on her with my older, more educated eyes to decide whether or not she was a socio. I can say one thing, I believe she was a narcissist.
Especially since in those days, looong before my time of course LOL, 'they' didn't have the quantifications, standards and terms we now have for many of the psychological disorders we are seeing so often in the people committing crimes these days.
As for Casey, I see her as I see Diane Downs, diagnosed with
sociopathic/narcissist/histrionic personality disorder(s) and she's a criminal obviously.
Hmmmm, trick question or not, a very interesting one to ponder.
I do believe we will eventually see her as the subject of one or another or all of those true life crime shows they televise, such as 'Women Behind Bars', '48 Hours: Hard Evidence', 'Dateline', etc, etc.
There could even be a made for tv movie (Ant's and/or JB receiving mucho $$ for). I'm sure there will be books written about her.
This all of course at this point, depends on a conviction. But, I have no doubt she will eventually rank among the famous female criminals in American History. Right along with Lizzie. OOooops.....Lizzie Borden, not our lovely lizzie girl.
:wink:

Coming soon - The George and Cindy reality show, starring George and Cindy.

Casey Anthony will also appear in College Psych Books as a textbook example of a habitual liar, who even after she's caught, and ADMITS she's been caught (ie., Universal job), continually tells the same lie AGAIN AND AGAIN!

Cindy Anthony must have dropped that girl on her head when she was young, because she ain't right in the head!

[Dick Tracy]

see that is what I have always thought for one the ladder..red flag 2 the hit on the back yard 3 the calls non stop to her parents cell and work and they do not answer then all of a sudden nothing..and like you said the computer activity..no one else was there they have checked CA and GA and they were at work at that time..and it is very sad cause if it was a horrible accident then all she had to do was call 911 was she so afraid to let her mom know that she would do all this...I just do not get it..

You''re thinking just like I am. But does this statement on the 16th in a text message change your opinion of it being an accident?

7/16 - 07:03am Casey: The most important thing is getting caylee back but I truly hope you can forgive me… granted I will never be able to forgive myself…nor will my family.

That's a very sinister statement.

Why wouldn't anyone forgive her if all she did was drop the kid off, and her story checked out, that the Nanny was a psycho after all.

Did she say it because she was irresponsible for watching Caylee, and she drowned in the pool because of neglect? Or did she say it because she really murdered her daughter?

[Oregongal]

Kat, did the cadaver dogs hit by the playhouse, I never knew anything about a placehouse in the back yard... Do tell (if you are still here).

DT, the dogs did hit around the playhouse, LE even moved the playhouse to check under it. Racking my tired brain here, but the playhouse was on pavers or cement blocks, whatever, so they were like a flooor and I'm not sure, but I seem to think they moved the playhouse off of them and moved those paver (blocks) to check under them.
I wish I could give you links to the pics, sorry, I lost all of those links when I had to reinstall my system. :(
I think LE tore up that yard pretty good trying to make sure Caylee wasn't there (or was) because the dogs hit so many places. Someone mentioned I think yesterday that maybe the Ant's had purposely scattered some of the dirt around because maybe they knew Caylee had been there at some point. I'm not sure about that idea, but the dogs did hit numerous places and there were lots of those little orange flags in that yard where the dogs hit and LE did dig around and moved things they could, including the playhouse. Wow, sorry for the run on sentence there.

[aproudmom]

Excellent Sleuthing..... Makes total sense. When the myspace was edited by CA on 7/3, she did in fact say that. I think you need to join NODA.

I am just trying to remember all of the times and things that stuck out to me cause I noticed the changes in her calling and how she hardly ever answered her calls from CA but as soon as she would call KC would check her voicemail..why? she was a adult if she wanted to go and stay away from home why avoid talking to them..because she for one could not provide CA a call that she could speak to caylee she also says that in her blog..

when this happened I really thought it was a accident and felt so sorry for CA and GA I looked at them as wonderful grandparents who loved this child and was so sure it was all a horrible case of not watching the baby and a accident happened..then darn them if they did not start being so stupid when the facts started coming out..I would support them 100% if they said we love our daughter we have to support her even though she did this..fine go for it but they have lied and tried to twist things to blame everyone but her..so they lost my sympathy and that is not me I am a very caring person but just can not understand how they can say they believe everything she tells them..

[Oregongal]

evening....

I think their's too much evidence for even stupid people like them to propose that Caylee is still alive. I personally feel that the state of Florida has a 100% link from the crime scene to Casey, hence the DP back on the table. Don't know why I think this, but that's usually the case (me thinks).

moo

Me thinks the same thing!!!
:thumbup:

[Dick Tracy]

DT, the dogs did hit around the playhouse, LE even moved the playhouse to check under it. Racking my tired brain here, but the playhouse was on pavers or cement blocks, whatever, so they were like a flooor and I'm not sure, but I seem to think they moved the playhouse off of them and moved those paver (blocks) to check under them.
I wish I could give you links to the pics, sorry, I lost all of those links when I had to reinstall my system. :(
I think LE tore up that yard pretty good trying to make sure Caylee wasn't there (or was) because the dogs hit so many places. Someone mentioned I think yesterday that maybe the Ant's had purposely scattered some of the dirt around because maybe they knew Caylee had been there at some point. I'm not sure about that idea, but the dogs did hit numerous places and there were lots of those little orange flags in that yard where the dogs hit and LE did dig around and moved things they could, including the playhouse. Wow, sorry for the run on sentence there.

I'm going to go and see if there is a cadaver dog summary report somewhere...

[Oregongal]

lol ITA..I may be a sad overweight blogger but not stupid by any means:wink:

:lol: mom,
me too darlin!!!
Intelligent and proud of it, weight not because I'm sitting on my azz, my medication and probably my love of Chardonnay. LOL

[aproudmom]

well going to try to lay down..and need to read some of the docs today to refresh my brain..thanks DT been nice got me thinking about the times and towers so it will drive me crazy I need to read alot of things again...I hate not remembering things..lol..:biggrin:

To all who are still on Have a wonderful safe day..:seeya:

[Dick Tracy]

I am just trying to remember all of the times and things that stuck out to me cause I noticed the changes in her calling and how she hardly ever answered her calls from CA but as soon as she would call KC would check her voicemail..why? she was a adult if she wanted to go and stay away from home why avoid talking to them..because she for one could not provide CA a call that she could speak to caylee she also says that in her blog..

when this happened I really thought it was a accident and felt so sorry for CA and GA I looked at them as wonderful grandparents who loved this child and was so sure it was all a horrible case of not watching the baby and a accident happened..then darn them if they did not start being so stupid when the facts started coming out..I would support them 100% if they said we love our daughter we have to support her even though she did this..fine go for it but they have lied and tried to twist things to blame everyone but her..so they lost my sympathy and that is not me I am a very caring person but just can not understand how they can say they believe everything she tells them..

They're trying to save Casey in anyway possible. Lie, steal, cheat. Whatever it takes. These people don't know grace. They don't know humility. They only know how to twist and deflect and blame, and lie just like Casey.

[Dick Tracy]

well going to try to lay down..and need to read some of the docs today to refresh my brain..thanks DT been nice got me thinking about the times and towers so it will drive me crazy I need to read alot of things again...I hate not remembering things..lol..:biggrin:

To all who are still on Have a wonderful safe day..:seeya:

Yeah me too.. Night, lets think this out another night some more.

good night OG!!!!!!!!!! You are in my prayers!

[Oregongal]

Great post, bolding mine. Couldn't agree more. I bet she learned about decomposing bodies from that video they rented on the 16th of June.

Your probably right on that DT. I haven't seen those movies, was there anything about squirrels in them? :lol:
Seriously tho, maybe she just learned that by experience. I wish we had Dr. Perper on hand, we could ask him just when do bodies begin to start smelling. I know the minute a person dies, they begin to decompose. But, I don't think I've ever heard or read just when they start smelling.
I used to have links to that sort of thing too. Didn't get to completely read all tho, was saving them for a later time....lost them too.
I guess I need to start googling. >sigh<

[Oregongal]

my bolding

Ogal ITA and have suffered with depression for over 15 yrs it is a disease so many do not understand..I am sorry I do not even see depression in GA or CA and them throwing around the I am going to kill myself..first of all you never tell anyone you just do it...they were looking for attention I have no doubt they grieve for Caylee but I do not think either one of them were going to off themselves...JMO

Sorry mom, I too suffer from depression, on meds for it. I didn't even know about it until about 5 yrs ago. I thank God I was finally diagnosed and have some relief now. I don't see depression in either of them either and totally agree with you about them playing the suicide card for attention. I also think they are doing some sort of grieving for Caylee, but, I honestly don't see in them the grieving I've seen by personal experience. My brother died when he was 21, I saw my mom grieve, I've know others who have lost loved ones and seen them grieve. I myself have not only lost a brother, but both my parents within a year of each other and am still grieving for them, a well as my beloved Grandmother. Somehow these Ant's just don't show me what I've seen or experienced myself. I know, we don't know what goes on behind their closed doors, or what it would be like if our own child was behind bars because of the death or our grandaughter, but again, somehow I really don't see much real grieving from them. Maybe George, but Cindy? Shaking my head here, I'm just having a hard time with them and their declaration of grief. Sorry, I don't mean to sound judgemental. I just don't get them at all. To me, grief and the Ant's behavior and their words, just don't go together.
:blushing:

[Oregongal]

Phew.. I'm sort of outnumbered in here, so I have to be very careful that something............ ahhh never mind!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

You are not outnumbered, you are a part of us.
:wink:

[Oregongal]

No one will dance with me :(

I did alot around here today, cut the grass, cleaned carpets, changed the oil, cleaned parrot cages... Fell asleep on the couch.

Hey, I have a question.. Do you know which of the two cell phone towers near the Anthony received the majority of the pings when the OC was at the house? I know there were two cell phone towers.

Wow DT, now that you've done all of your chores, can you come and do mine?
LOL
I've been down all day and I'd gladly dance with you if we weren't what 400 or so miles apart.
Learned some new info about my ex, more lies exposed that have a direct link to the coming foreclosure and even tho I thought of these particular things, saw it in writing, official record (online) confirmed and it hit pretty hard.
Sorry for the O/T.
I have no idea about the cell towers, Eastside Joe is the man to go to for that info.

[Oregongal]

I'm going to rent those movies. I want to see what in hades was so interesting to Casey in those movies, that she was able to glean from reading the back of the box at Blockbuster before she rented those two particular movies. I'm sure she picked them out, she always wanted to be in control (like duh, you know who - Cindy Anthony).

You know, I don't even know if those movies have any bearing on the case and Casey at all. They were both newer movies, pretty popular in the theaters, I remember wanting to see the one with Diane Lane, and I think at the time they rented them they had just come out for rental.
It could just be they hit the new release rack at Blockbuster.
:shrug:
You don't have to rent them, my dd goes to some sight online and watches currant and old movies all the time, for free. If you want I can ask her what the site is and pm it to you tomorrow.
You can then download and watch them on your puter.
PM me to remind me if you'd like to go with that. Otherwise, I'll go to sleep and forget to ask her.

[Oregongal]

do you think she had her in her trunk or had her somewhere at the home and went back and moved her and perhaps kept her in the car for a few days..I just wonder why those dogs hit there but nothing was ever found and then you have the shovel being borrowed and the neighbor saying he saw her backing into the garage which was not normal..I just do not know how they live there not knowing if that is were she could have took Caylee's life..I know I could not even if I had to sleep in a tent..but that is just me I guess

I think she may have killed Caylee in the early morn hours of the 16th, after she screeched out of the house after the huge fight that caused Cindy trying to choke her on the late afternoon/night of the 15th.
So Caylee would have been in the trunk. She then went back to the house after George went to work on the 16th, moved Caylee to the backyard, thinking she'd bury her there somewhere. Left Caylee in the playhouse, out of sight of the Ant's and then went to be with Tony, rent their movies and have their night of 'love'. Yuck, thinking her daughter lay dead in the backyard of her parents house.
Wasn't it the 17th when she borrowed the shovel? Or maybe the 18th. Either way, she went back to the house, borrowed the shovel thinking she'd bury her, found she could dig far enough down fast enough, returned the shovel and then put Caylee back in the trunk. She had to double bag her cause by this time Caylee was beginning to smell and I'm sure she was covered with flies and all those bugs that come with death. She probably used those pestiside pumps to spray Caylee down just before she bagged her. Put the double bagged Caylee into that laundry hamper because it had handles, put her back in the trunk and then drove around and around, as the cell pings indicate. Being daytime, she couldn't find a place where she wouldn't be seen. After hours of this, it was getting dark she drove back to her 'comfort zone'. A place she'd known from childhood, pulled over onto the shoulder of the road, walked a few feet in and tossed her 'package' into the woods.
Drove off.
I know there may be a few holes in this scenario, but I've also always thought it was simpler than many others have speculated.
And sorry for posting this right before we go to sleep, but this is what I think about how it happened many nights as I pray that the justice for Caylee will come by her mother being put to death for what she did to this baby.

[Oregongal]

omg I could not even part with a hairbrush let alone sell anything of my child's or grandchild's..sick sick sick..but you seem to pretty much have them down..as sad as it is.

Yes, it is sad, it's also horrifying. :ohmy:
But, somehow I can see it happening. How many times has someone posted, how much sicker can this whole thing get?
Well, this is how much sicker I think it can get.
I get the shudders just thinking about it, but with this yucka, sick family, I can somehow see it.
:cursing:

[Oregongal]

Oh yeah, finding that little boy was AMAZING. PRAISE God.

The reason I asked.... It's not clear (as far as I can tell), where Caylee died. Did she die in the backyard of the Anthony's residence? In the trunk of the car? I'm trying to narrow down Casey's movements on the 16th of June, (was she at home after GA went to work and before Cindy got home from work) There's a huge hole of time there were Casey is off the phone.

That's exactly what I've tried to figure out as well. As I just said, there is holes in my scenario and that is the big one that I haven't been able to figure out.
I sure hope LE and the pros has it filled.
I do kind of think Caylee died in the car and she went back to the house after GA went to work. I've never believed his story of seeing them leave before he went to work and then there's that call to her cell at 7:45 am the morning of the 16th. Why would either CA or GA be calling her cell if she were home and in bed? I don't think she came home after she left on the 15th (after the fight) until after GA left for work on the 16th. Maybe Caylee was still alive, but, that just doesn't feel right to me. I think she came home with a dead Caylee and that huge hole of time was when she was trying figure out what to do with her.
I have a feeling ALL the puter forensics haven't been released yet. She could have spent that time googling what to do with a dead baby for all we know.

[Oregongal]

Now you're thinking... I LIKE THAT.

I'm going to surmise that Caylee drowned, left unattended in the pool. Neglect City. I looked at the computer logs for the 16th for the Anthony home computer. There is hard disk activity in the 1400 hour. That's important. That means that the computer had to be turned on, if it had been turned off. (duh Dick). George wasn't home, Cindy's at work. Who's on the computer? Casey. Where's Caylee? In the pool, drowning on her own.

edited---------
After I read my post, my synopsis of that timeframe seems like a stretch, based on all the other documents that have been released. Googling, neck breaking, shovel, chloroform. Remember, chloroform I think was found in the air sample in the trunk, right?

As I just posted, I don't think Caylee drowned. That disk activity could have been what I just posted, her googling and trying to figure out what to do with a dead body. Ewww, I hate typing that, but, I honestly do not feel in my gut....and never have that Caylee died by accident or neglect, I think Casey deliberatley killed her. Whether she meant to at the moment she did it, that I don't know. But, it's obvious she was thinking about killing someone months before Caylee died.
Those building feelings and thoughts and plans came to a head the day her own mother tried to choke her out and her rage came to a head and she either smothered her by taping her mouth AND little nose with that duct tape, overdosed her with chloroform or smacked her, or shook her to cause shaken baby syndrome. And it could have been while she was parked somewhere and Caylee was upset because of the fight, the flight and wouldn't shut up.
Pick one, any one. We won't ever know that because there was nothing left of that baby to be able to know the cause of her death.

[Oregongal]

see that is what I have always thought for one the ladder..red flag 2 the hit on the back yard 3 the calls non stop to her parents cell and work and they do not answer then all of a sudden nothing..and like you said the computer activity..no one else was there they have checked CA and GA and they were at work at that time..and it is very sad cause if it was a horrible accident then all she had to do was call 911 was she so afraid to let her mom know that she would do all this...I just do not get it..

I think Casey was calling her parents to try and know exactly where they were. She had a dead Caylee on her hands and didn't know yet what to do with her, she needed to know neither of them would just be popping back home any minute. Do we know if they ordinarily would answer if she called them at work? Or did she know if they didn't answer that meant they were at work and couldn't answer? Did she leave them a voicemail when those calls went unanswered?
If she didn't, I think maybe it was usual that they wouldn't answer her calls when at work, unless of course she'd left a voicemail saying OMG, help, something terrible has happened, call me back.
I know there were times my ex would be in a work situation that he couldn't answer a call from me, our arrangement was if it was an emergency, I would leave a voicemail 911. When he had a pager, same thing.

[Oregongal]

Coming soon - The George and Cindy reality show, starring George and Cindy.

Casey Anthony will also appear in College Psych Books as a textbook example of a habitual liar, who even after she's caught, and ADMITS she's been caught (ie., Universal job), continually tells the same lie AGAIN AND AGAIN!

Cindy Anthony must have dropped that girl on her head when she was young, because she ain't right in the head!

:thumbsup:

[desmom]

I think Casey was calling her parents to try and know exactly where they were. She had a dead Caylee on her hands and didn't know yet what to do with her, she needed to know neither of them would just be popping back home any minute. Do we know if they ordinarily would answer if she called them at work? Or did she know if they didn't answer that meant they were at work and couldn't answer? Did she leave them a voicemail when those calls went unanswered?
If she didn't, I think maybe it was usual that they wouldn't answer her calls when at work, unless of course she'd left a voicemail saying OMG, help, something terrible has happened, call me back.
I know there were times my ex would be in a work situation that he couldn't answer a call from me, our arrangement was if it was an emergency, I would leave a voicemail 911. When he had a pager, same thing.


Morning All!

I think Cindy thought the same thing. Brittany Schieber told LE Cindy visited her on July 16 and told her about finding the car at Amscot, Caylee's doll being in the car and

"Uhm Cindy told me that Casey would call occasionally to meet up with her, or have a reason for her mother to leave the house, and that gave Casey enough time to get in the house, take stuff that she needed, but never took Caylee's stuff. And Caylee's stuff was never moved. No shoes, no pajamas, no clothes, no dolls, no anything."

Brittany also said, "...but she told me that every time Casey would come that she was also stealing money, so."

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/05%20Brittany%20Schieber%20July%2024(1).pdf

[aproudmom]

Sorry mom, I too suffer from depression, on meds for it. I didn't even know about it until about 5 yrs ago. I thank God I was finally diagnosed and have some relief now. I don't see depression in either of them either and totally agree with you about them playing the suicide card for attention. I also think they are doing some sort of grieving for Caylee, but, I honestly don't see in them the grieving I've seen by personal experience. My brother died when he was 21, I saw my mom grieve, I've know others who have lost loved ones and seen them grieve. I myself have not only lost a brother, but both my parents within a year of each other and am still grieving for them, a well as my beloved Grandmother. Somehow these Ant's just don't show me what I've seen or experienced myself. I know, we don't know what goes on behind their closed doors, or what it would be like if our own child was behind bars because of the death or our grandaughter, but again, somehow I really don't see much real grieving from them. Maybe George, but Cindy? Shaking my head here, I'm just having a hard time with them and their declaration of grief. Sorry, I don't mean to sound judgemental. I just don't get them at all. To me, grief and the Ant's behavior and their words, just don't go together.
:blushing:

well thought I could sleep now DT got be search and reading up..so much to remember..but seen this reply I am glad you are better it is a horrible disease and I also take meds for it I fought it for 2 years and it was so bad I knew I had to I also have sever panic attacks so does not help out the depression and it got worse when I lost my uncle and one of my aunts with in a few months apart so as you said we know what it is like to grieve and it is not normally like the Anthony's have..I am so sorry for all your loses and your forever in my prayers Ogal..really enjoy all your post and always agree with them..I for one would not be out swinging bats if I lost my grandchild I don't have any yet but I always tell my boys I don't think I could go on for one if I lost the other I know it sounds bad but I do not know how I would even get out of bed if I lost 1 of my children..they are my life I have been a mother since I was 18 and was so proud to feel that little kick even though he was born from a ex B/F of 5 years who beat me it was worth it all just having my son saved my life it gave me the strength to leave and it saved my life he is 19 now and I am so proud of my boys so when I see all these stories of parents doing this to their children I just can not imagine why.. they are our gift...KC never gave Caylee the chance to ever go to school have little friends go to prom so many things she took from this sweet child..I will NEVER UNDERSTAND and I will never understand CA an GA selling her things to make money sitting up a foundation to make money how is that helping? It isn't they have no clue and it makes me sick to think of them making blood money and not at least doing it for the right reasons..they make me ill..I pray for Justice for Caylee and the heck with the rest of them..

[aproudmom]

Morning All!

I think Cindy thought the same thing. Brittany Schieber told LE Cindy visited her on July 16 and told her about finding the car at Amscot, Caylee's doll being in the car and

"Uhm Cindy told me that Casey would call occasionally to meet up with her, or have a reason for her mother to leave the house, and that gave Casey enough time to get in the house, take stuff that she needed, but never took Caylee's stuff. And Caylee's stuff was never moved. No shoes, no pajamas, no clothes, no dolls, no anything."

Brittany also said, "...but she told me that every time Casey would come that she was also stealing money, so."

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/05%20Brittany%20Schieber%20July%2024(1).pdf


Morning des thanks for the link..well well..she sure did not want to bump into mommy dearest I guess

[aproudmom]

Coming soon - The George and Cindy reality show, starring George and Cindy.

Casey Anthony will also appear in College Psych Books as a textbook example of a habitual liar, who even after she's caught, and ADMITS she's been caught (ie., Universal job), continually tells the same lie AGAIN AND AGAIN!

Cindy Anthony must have dropped that girl on her head when she was young, because she ain't right in the head!

:thumbsup:lol love it DT..

[aproudmom]

I think Casey was calling her parents to try and know exactly where they were. She had a dead Caylee on her hands and didn't know yet what to do with her, she needed to know neither of them would just be popping back home any minute. Do we know if they ordinarily would answer if she called them at work? Or did she know if they didn't answer that meant they were at work and couldn't answer? Did she leave them a voicemail when those calls went unanswered?
If she didn't, I think maybe it was usual that they wouldn't answer her calls when at work, unless of course she'd left a voicemail saying OMG, help, something terrible has happened, call me back.
I know there were times my ex would be in a work situation that he couldn't answer a call from me, our arrangement was if it was an emergency, I would leave a voicemail 911. When he had a pager, same thing.

I know that is what I thought when this first happened or we first heard about it I guess I felt no way could she do this to her child.and then the more information started coming out I was stuck and had no idea what to think..why look up all the things she did why the duct tape..I will never understand why she did this and she sure wont say how she did it..she is sick and evil that much I do know..and I am not sure if she left messages but never thought of that..just thought it was odd so many calls to them and then they stop but you could be right maybe they did not answer and she did not leave a message and why not call CA work phone if she was freaking out over a accident..heck I don't know what to think

[aproudmom]

Good morning proudmom...:seeya:

I too have to say in the beginning when I heard the 911 call to the police department it was a call for help for her Granddaughter and the more she spoke to Casey with the police department on the phone the more frustrated and angry she became. I don't believe she thought for a minute Caylee was harmed just yet. I believed Casey just had someone take her to watch her while she was out partying. The moment it began to smell like Casey did something to Caylee was the moment Cindy changed her colors. I believe Casey came somewhat clean to her mother and told her things that did not make sense and Cindy became alarmed and went into the protection mode and started in on protecting Casey knowing Caylee was either dead or somewhere out of the country and taken by some mad woman.
I also believe Cindy really thought they would get Caylee back and refused to believe her daughter was actually capable of murder. Now as the months has gone by, Cindy knows her daughter is a killer and she murdered her granddaughter. Cindy can't get Caylee back so she is doing everything she can to protect Casey.
As a result Cindy is making this worse for her daughter Casey. If she would have kept her big angry mouth shut and let things ride as they are (had been) Casey would still look guilty as she so is but Cindy and George only look like they are protecting their killer daughter and have no shame about the murder of their granddaughter and they clearly know Casey did this.
You notice Casey's brother is MIA..The only time we heard enough about him is his speech at the services for Caylee. (CMA)
I believe Casey and her brother were very close and he knows Casey did this to Caylee. Either by accident or by evilness. I'll bet she told her brother she accidentally killed her and didn't mean to.
The chloroform BS.
Just a thought.
JMO

I have also wondered about LA I guess we can be happy he is at least keeping his mouth shut now..CA said he was back to work on LKL the other night but I have always wondered if she did not tell him what happened they can not say she got out and came home and no one said what the heck happened seems their whole attitude changed when she got out on bond so I am sure she said something just not sure what...

[ellegna]

New thread started for Sunday.
Let's bring these great discussions over there :seeya:

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