Friday, May 15

[Lovethechild]

Good morning all! Hopefully, Haleigh will be found today.

[carlybarly]

Thanks for starting a new thread! I really hope this is the day or the weekend she comes home or SOMETHING happens!

I've been thinking more and more about this, it has gotten so bad that I actually dreamt that Ron was crying and thanking me for believing Misty and I kept thinking, WHAT are you talking about? Who said that? lmao Thank god then I woke up!

Now a thought popped into my head, not sure if I actually believe this happened but it is just one of the possibilities that seemed to pop up. Well we know or at least it has been alleged that Misty was on a three day partying binge, so we imagine that she was tired that day. According to her she went to bed at 10, a little early imo for a girl that age, so being tired makes sense. Perhaps, just perhaps she was having a hard time with Haleigh like has been alleged happened in the past (the news about the phone call to Ron at work when Haleigh wouldn't go to bed) and just maybe, maybe her uneducated and tired mind thought "why not just Haleigh one of these pills to make her sleep?" And unfortunately gave her too much. What happened after that, I can't quite work it out. She coudl have discovered Haleigh not breathing when she went to bed, but that is as far as I can go. Not sure how she would have gotten rid of Haleigh unless she called someone for help. Can't work out how Ron fits in there unless she told him later and for some unknown reason I cannot fanthom he covered it up.

This is just something that popped in my head, not highly likely. But without ANYTHING from LE here, there are just too many possiblities running through my head and imagine everyone else's!

This is all just moo, speculating on what could have happened.

[panache]

Good Morning Early Birds

I'm up and att em too. Have early morning clients to do.

Carly

Your hypothesis is as good as any I have read. Its a possibilty. I'd like to think whatever happened to Haleigh was by accident and not by design.

I'm encouraged that I see a little movement on LE's part. Yesterday was the first time they have addressed the media in quite awhile. I'm wondering if Kim and Cobra's efforts have prompted them to speed this up. I hope so.

moo

[panache]

Florida Child Abuse Laws and the Insuing Investigation

Some Information.

http://www.nettally.com/klroze/page50.html

[panache]

Haleigh Update May 15

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

[panache]

Issues With Jane Veldaz Mitchell

note:

Haleigh's coverage is near the end of the transcript.

AH tells Jane about Jerome's connection.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/14/ijvm.01.html

[Texas48]

:wub:Good morning ALL..TY for the thread Love..
Carley..your thoughts are as good as any IMO.

I have played every senerio in my head till my brain goes into a spin...don't laugh.....I have went as far as placing a sheet (about the size of the *little mattress*) on the floor just inside my B/R door.Very much like the design of Ron's B/R..then I had my son come into the bedroom...anyway..final outcome ended in my belief it was not a Kidnapper/SO that was NOT familiar with the interior of the house...Even played out having a dresser close to the height of the one in the B/R with a dvd player on top..with that and the height of Haleigh..just to see IF she could have reached the player...IMO..the most important thing and the one thing that unites all of us together is Haleigh..we may agree/disagree with one's opinions but at least we are here. We may from time to time get very emotional in our opinions in trying to express ourselves. I know I have and every so often I must say....I'm Sorry..Let us pray and believe that Haleigh is NOT lost forever. Haleigh will come home.

[Texas48]

Good morning, love (thanks for the new thread BTW), panache, carly, Tex, and everyone eles who joins us today. I will catch up, did not get to see JVM last night I see you posted a link to her show, panache, thank you. My prayers continue today that there is a break in this sad case, and Haleigh is found and brought home to those who love her. I also hope, as hard as it might be, that our posts are tempered with compassion and empathy for this family, who is grieving so very much.Been waiting for ya X..Last night on HLN..Mike Galantos(sp)..TJ Hart reported that there is new news on Chad Reynolds...My notes are upstairs so will try ...and get this right.....he gave where CR is from and where relatives are and that most of Chad's crimes were in Putman Cty. His car was spotted at a dumpster and LE is tracking the Trash Collecting Co. as of last night. LE is searching for Chad Eugene Reynolds. I will get my notes so I can see what else there was..I knew you would be interested or I think you are still interested as were a few others.
Bolded is mine and ITA Madame X and I know others will as well.
:smile:

[carlybarly]

Thanks for the links panache! Wow Texas you sure are the super sleuth! But that is great that you are thinking of all possiblities and what doesn't feel to fit and what does. And that is strange madame x how you envision Haleigh in your head but there may be something to that and I hope there is if it means she is alive. And I agree Panache, IF she is gone because of Misty or Ron I feel it would have to be an accident.

[carlybarly]

Good morning all. Carly, your theory is quite possible. Did you see on the news last night where some mom gave her baby so much alcohol that the baby died and was twice the legal limit of an adult? Something like that or along those lines could be possible in Haleigh's case and Ron and Misty just panicked, imo, it is a possibility since neither one of them know how to get their stories straight.

Teresa Neves and Ronald were interviewed by Channel 4 yesterday, anyone able to see or find that clip anywhere? I've searched high and low and am unable to find it.

Have a good day all and thanks for the thread Love.

moo

I didn't hear about the mother who gave her baby the alcohol, that is just horrible! But you know there are people out there who are like "well I'll just give him a little of this or that to calm him down so he'll sleep or whatever". I don't know where they get this thinking from, but to them it makes sense.

[CANDYKISSES]

So Crystal has gone home to raise Chad's children and Chloe. That's nice. I'm sure she was needed there and she can relax a bit now too.

Then of course things aren't as reported yesterday, and in reality again there is much smoke blowing going on. There is no status achieved, things are pretty much as they were and the HBC DOES NOT have NON PROFIT STATUS yet. However, I'm glad to hear there is someone working on that angle.

Oh Kim, keep spinning the web, at least it gets HALEIGH CUMMINGS INTO THE SPOTLIGHT.

:wub:BRING HALEIGH CUMMINGS HOME.

[carlybarly]

ITA do you want me to tell you the story about my ex husband and his (teen) wife thinking it was funny when my oldest granddaughter was 10 months old and they thought it was funny to watch her toddle back and forth between them, just learning to walk, and they rewarded her with sips of straight jack daniels? I thought not. Or the person I used to know who put nyquil in her baby's bottle at night?

omg madame x, THAT is just ridiculous! And the nyquil seems to be a "drug" of choice for some to get their little ones conked out!

[Texas48]

Hi, Texas, wow you're suite the super sleuth! ITA, it had to be someone that was familiar with the surroundings. Could someone have been inside the house when no one else was home and observed the sleeping arrangements, and known Ron's work habits? IDK, there are so many possibilites.LOL..X..NO SUPER SLEUTH here..lol..I still believe ONE of the many senerios is an Unidentified SO...even a friend of Ron's and Misty's or even a friend of the family..neighbor..could be anyone..someone that had been inside their home and is familiar with sleeping arrangements and Ron's hours of work....Did you read my post about Chad Reynolds..? I will go and get my notes from last night...all thoughts are a possibility IMO..the more opinions we have the more we are made to think..this is all good. :thumbsup:.....oops...forgot...Bolded is Mine..

[Texas48]

:sad:I didn't hear about the mother who gave her baby the alcohol, that is just horrible! But you know there are people out there who are like "well I'll just give him a little of this or that to calm him down so he'll sleep or whatever". I don't know where they get this thinking from, but to them it makes sense.I didn't hear about the alcohol and baby either carly..but it does seem there is a baby or child either kidnapped or murdered or abused on the news everyday now..It has got to the point I don't want to see any more about how mothers/ppl are treating or what they are doing to these children. The man on news the other day threw a baby out the car window while driving...then there was baby Emma...the little girl kidnapped from her front yard and thank God she was found and is safe...TOO many of these cases and I am puzzled by it all.

[carlybarly]

Thanks for the new thread, love and thanks for the links, pan...you're the best!

Carly, I've thought of the accidental overdose too...both, being given to her to make her sleep, or accidental overdose because she got into their stash.

I think if she was given something, it was Ron who gave it to her, or told Misty to. I realize there are those that think I'm out to get Ron and I'll admit that I don't have an ounce of respect or compassion for him. I make no apologies for that because I think he harmed his innocent child, but personal feelings aside, there are also facts that I just can't get past, even when I try to be objective about him.

Of the two, Ron has the strongest personality, by far. Misty is a lost little girl in a young woman's body. There is no way on earth that Ron would cover for anyone that harmed his child unless he thought that he could ultimately be held responsible. But I do think that Misty would cover for Ron, with the stipulation that he marry her, giving her the status that her child like mind desires.

I'm not entirely convinced that Haleigh died of an overdose. She could've been the victim of punishment that went too far, or got caught in the crossfire of a violent arguement between Ron and Misty. But whatever happened, I firmly believe that Misty is covering for Ron, not the other way around based on what I've observed of their personalities.

AMO

Thank you for that Tiffany and I can totally respect that that is what you feel and how you see things. And you worded it in a way that makes sense, which I appreciate. I go back and forth, I don't feel that he did something to her but then at times I do feel he knows something cause something is a bit off. I've thought about also, if she was given something maybe he told Misty to do that at some point, maybe not that day but in the past?

With the latest activity, KP back in the news, Ron's video plus news appearance with his mom, it feels like something is coming, not sure what but I hope it helps solve the case, find haleigh or give us something!

[carlybarly]

Oh, and carly, Bonjour, Madame, comment allez vous?

I have been practicing!

Ah! Ca va et vous? although at times I admit I'm more of a Bien, Bien! et vous? person lol.

[Scampi]

So Crystal has gone home to raise Chad's children and Chloe. That's nice. I'm sure she was needed there and she can relax a bit now too.

Then of course things aren't as reported yesterday, and in reality again there is much smoke blowing going on. There is no status achieved, things are pretty much as they were and the HBC DOES NOT have NON PROFIT STATUS yet. However, I'm glad to hear there is someone working on that angle.

Oh Kim, keep spinning the web, at least it gets HALEIGH CUMMINGS INTO THE SPOTLIGHT.

:wub:BRING HALEIGH CUMMINGS HOME.


Why the persistent smear campaign against the Mother of this little girl who is still missing and her attorney, KP? I fail to see how this attorney is "spinning the web." Explain what you mean for us please.

[carlybarly]

You're welcome and I appreciate your polite response even tho you may not agree with me. Thank you for that.

I haven't seen a tape or transcript of RC and TN's news broadcast. Do you know if there is one available?

No I haven't, I did a little searching which turned up nothing. I'm hoping someone else finds it or the video. According the news story that was written about it, it seems he said things in it that he should have said in that video on his lawyer's site!

I don't see the link here, viking posted it earlier on the yesterday's thread, so I'll repost it for her here. On the video page they do a simple timeline though but it seems like just a week by week timeline, not the LE timeline.

Dad Vows to Never Give Up (found by Viking earlier)
http://www.news4jax.com/news/19464575/detail.html

[Santa'sMom]

Been waiting for ya X..Last night on HLN..Mike Galantos(sp)..TJ Hart reported that there is new news on Chad Reynolds...My notes are upstairs so will try ...and get this right.....he gave where CR is from and where relatives are and that most of Chad's crimes were in Putman Cty. His car was spotted at a dumpster and LE is tracking the Trash Collecting Co. as of last night. LE is searching for Chad Eugene Reynolds. I will get my notes so I can see what else there was..I knew you would be interested or I think you are still interested as were a few others.
Bolded is mine and ITA Madame X and I know others will as well.
:smile:

I didn't see HLN (don't really know what that show is) but the news article I read pretty much said that it was thought that Chad may have fallen asleep in a dumpster (I take that to mean that he may have gotten crushed when they emptied the dumpster the next morning). My question is, why has it taken the "friend" this long to remember that Chad told her on the phone that he would be waiting for her in the dumpster? And why wouldn't he wait in the car that was parked next to the dumpster? My thought is that if you want to know where Chad is, the two "friends" who were last known to be with him more than likely hold the key. LE stated in that article that they are looking for him as a missing and possibly endangered person. That tells me that they don't believe he hitchhiked to Satsuma, broke into Ronald's house, picked a 40# child up off the floor (takes some muscle and effort to do that, by the way) just a few feet from where her supposed caretaker was sleeping, snuck out of the house with her, and hitched a ride for him and Haleigh to somewhere else, and is keeping himself and her hidden.

Someone mentioned a few days ago that Chad disappeared the night before Haleigh did. Yes, he disappeared on Sunday/Monday and Haleigh disappeared on Monday/Tuesday, but there was a week between the two disappearances, not a day. Just wanted to point that out.

[carlybarly]

I believe we first heard about it here on this forum because it was posted in the comments section on AH's site. I don't remember though which story so hard to look through all those comments.

[Mimi428]

Thanks for the new thread, love and thanks for the links, pan...you're the best!

Carly, I've thought of the accidental overdose too...both, being given to her to make her sleep, or accidental overdose because she got into their stash.

I think if she was given something, it was Ron who gave it to her, or told Misty to. I realize there are those that think I'm out to get Ron and I'll admit that I don't have an ounce of respect or compassion for him. I make no apologies for that because I think he harmed his innocent child, but personal feelings aside, there are also facts that I just can't get past, even when I try to be objective about him.

Of the two, Ron has the strongest personality, by far. Misty is a lost little girl in a young woman's body. There is no way on earth that Ron would cover for anyone that harmed his child unless he thought that he could ultimately be held responsible. But I do think that Misty would cover for Ron, with the stipulation that he marry her, giving her the status that her child like mind desires.

I'm not entirely convinced that Haleigh died of an overdose. She could've been the victim of punishment that went too far, or got caught in the crossfire of a violent arguement between Ron and Misty. But whatever happened, I firmly believe that Misty is covering for Ron, not the other way around based on what I've observed of their personalities.

AMO

I think you & I may have the most similar impressions, Tiff.

I have seen/read/heard nothing, absolutely nothing in all the coverage of this case that indicates that Haleigh's father was:
1) mild mannered
2) altruistic
3) benevolent
4) generous
5) kind hearted
6) naive or gullible
7) easily influenced by others, a pushover kind of guy
8) easy-going, or has a forgive-and-forget temperment
9) honest, open & truthful

The behaviors he has demonstrated give the opposite impression. Not mild mannered but hotheaded, easily angered, spiteful & unforgiving. Deceptive, evasive, self-centered, threatening, conniving - yes, those things we could say we have seen. I cannot believe he is so besotted & in love with Misty that he would believe everything she told him, no matter how implausible.

If he is going along with her story, I believe as you do, it is because he thinks he could ultimately be in some kind of trouble if the truth were known. He has not shown himself to be protective OF others - he has shown himself to seek protection FROM others. He wants them to provide alibis & cover stories for him.

His mother & grandmother try to paint a picture of the children being the center of his life - yet he could not even take the time to put together their Christmas toys by the 2nd week in February. Annette & Teresa & Misty change things they initially said about him - about fighting, getting in arguments over guns - the new & improved versions paint Ron as having no temper, no guns, getting into no fights or arguments with anyone.

He denies the truth even when there appears to be no need to deny it - like his drug arrests & that he is the father of a 3rd child. He demands that others make excuses for him, like his neighbor's father. I do NOT believe that neighbor was lying or making up bad stories about Ron. That neighbor, his family, the bus driver, the people who saw Misty pick up Haleigh from the schoolbus stop - have NO motives to deceive. I cannot believe they are all so callous & spiteful that they would create malicious lies about a poor guy who has had his child stolen from his bed.

JMO

[AmndaRcknwth]

That is a really good honest summation of Ron.

[Texas48]

thanks I just got a chance to google and found the article, and I have to ask what the heck? You're right why is she just now remembering about the dumpster, we keep having these pesky dumpster problems with the Haleigh case, don't we? And another friend got a phone call from him but did not actually speak to him, I hope it was not a desperate attempt on Chad's part for help. And you are right about the time frame, he has been missing since several days before Haleigh went missing. I am just saying (as I have so often in the past that it outs everyone to sleep LOL) that he DOES have family in the area, so presumably he has friends in the area, and some of those friends might be the same friends that Ron and/or Misty have......heck I don't know. All I know is he is familiar with the area and is missing, too. And as for falling asleep in a dumpster and not waking up when it was emptied? Oh yeah, ok, sure, I guess it's possible someone could sleep thru that noise, if they were highly intoxicated or on drugs, but the friend never indicated that.

Just another puzzle piece that seems like it MIGHT fit but doesn't quite, yet.X..I did go upstairs..I had deleted HLN new last night but went in and brought it back..(Thanks to good ole Tivo)..I am going to listen to it again and then will come back with notes..lol...I have not given up the theorie of CR and Haleigh....NOT yet. YOU got me hooked Madame X..lol with you. and by the way.....I hope I can learn some french from the two of you..lol again.

[carlybarly]

OK I was wrong it wasn't AH's site with the comment about Misty lawyering up, it was a blogger site, tenth comment down by justme. No verification on where they heard this either, so at this point it seems it was just a rumor.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120633

[Mimi428]

New article on BNN, entitled: Haleigh Cummings: A Bondsman, A Lawyer And A Criminal

http://www.bloggernews.net/120885

This article discusses the activities of Amber, Nay Nay, Jerome W - & how they have interacted with Cobra & KP. Inside it are several links - one of them is to an audio interview with Cobra.

*** DO NOT OPEN the link to the interview with Cobra if profanity offends you ***

We know Misty hung around with Nay Nay at times. We know that Misty & Amber know one another & I believe they may have been on somewhat friendly terms before they started fighting over Ron. Now I really want to know if Misty also knew Jerome W.

[panache]

Good afternoon Folks

Looks like a slow news day. I found a few photos on another board. Thought you might enjoy seeing them.

This is a photo of the wedding party.

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/Haleighphotobucket/wedding.jpg

[panache]

Crystal and Marie

Crystal looks absolutely stunning.

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/Haleighphotobucket/CM.jpg

[FallenAngel♥]

she does look beautiful and so much like her mom! Thank you!

ok i'm really confused now. I thought Marie was her step mom. :confused:

but they do both look very pretty.

[panache]

Missing Chad Reynolds


http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster

[FallenAngel♥]

Thanks Mimi. Very interesting.

I'm going to read between the lines here and go back to my earlier theory that some, not ALL, but some LEO's don't want strangers coming in their town and disrupting some of the activities that are going on there, i.e. drugs and prostitution. It's obvious to me that some have to be benefiting from these illegal activities or they wouldn't be allowed to continue. The area is small and it's impossible to believe that they didn't know exactly what was going on in that house that Cobra described.

Yes, they finally nailed Jerome and he has no bond this time. But what if Cobra hadn't shaken things up? What if AH and TJH hadn't reported what's been going on there? Would Jerome still be free to keep barely legal young women prostituting themselves for drugs? Imo, the answer is yes.

I think Cobra , AH and TJH are hesitant to come out and say it because they don't want to burn all the bridges. They're already having a hard enough time trying to function (and in some cases, stay alive) in that area.

As far as Misty knowing Jerome, idk, but my guess is she does know him.

AMOO

Makes the whole black man wearing all black with squeeky shoe story a lot more important IMO

[FallenAngel♥]

Missing Chad Reynolds


http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster

OMG i've heard it all now.

TY for the link..........


so let me get this straight. The guy might have fallen asleep in a dumpster and then the dumpster was dumped? :blink:

[Scampi]

Crystal and Marie

Crystal looks absolutely stunning.

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/Haleighphotobucket/CM.jpg

That is a wonderful photograph, thanks for posting it Pan. :thumbsup:

[panache]

I didn't see HLN (don't really know what that show is) but the news article I read pretty much said that it was thought that Chad may have fallen asleep in a dumpster (I take that to mean that he may have gotten crushed when they emptied the dumpster the next morning). My question is, why has it taken the "friend" this long to remember that Chad told her on the phone that he would be waiting for her in the dumpster? And why wouldn't he wait in the car that was parked next to the dumpster? My thought is that if you want to know where Chad is, the two "friends" who were last known to be with him more than likely hold the key. LE stated in that article that they are looking for him as a missing and possibly endangered person. That tells me that they don't believe he hitchhiked to Satsuma, broke into Ronald's house, picked a 40# child up off the floor (takes some muscle and effort to do that, by the way) just a few feet from where her supposed caretaker was sleeping, snuck out of the house with her, and hitched a ride for him and Haleigh to somewhere else, and is keeping himself and her hidden.

Someone mentioned a few days ago that Chad disappeared the night before Haleigh did. Yes, he disappeared on Sunday/Monday and Haleigh disappeared on Monday/Tuesday, but there was a week between the two disappearances, not a day. Just wanted to point that out.

I wished I had been logged on when you posted this Santa. Sounds like we are on the same page about the so called *friends*. I hope LE has questioned those two friends by now.

moo

[panache]

ok i'm really confused now. I thought Marie was her step mom. :confused:

but they do both look very pretty.

Marie is her bio Mom. Crystal has had a few stepmoms in her life. The current one is Connie.

[FallenAngel♥]

Marie is her bio Mom. Crystal has had a few stepmoms in her life. The current one is Connie.

ohhhhhhhhh ty Pan. You are so right. I forgot. TY

seriously her and Marie look like sisters to me, they are both so pretty.

[FallenAngel♥]

yeah do you think you could sleep thru a dumpster being dumped if you were in it? Even if he had a few drinks, whatever, I would think you would wake up!

There is NO way i could sleep though that. and i doubt ANYONE could. How do people come up with that kind of stuff? Seriously


Ok were gonna go see Angels and Demons...I'll be back later.


I hope when i get home Haleigh has been found safe and sound. :rose:

[FallenAngel♥]

I hope Crystal gets a chance to let that light shine again

Me too X.....I just couldn't imagine what they are going through.

[Ice Cycle]

yeah do you think you could sleep thru a dumpster being dumped if you were in it? Even if he had a few drinks, whatever, I would think you would wake up!

Hi,
Read the article and that is pretty gross but don't get what difference it makes if he did? Have they ruled this guy out?

[AmndaRcknwth]

Lovely pic of Marie and Crystal, hope you don't mind me swiping it :)

Yes, that is truly strange about CR waiting in a dumpster. What was he afraid of?

[?noanswer]

ITA Tiff (don't fall off your chair) Jerome WOULD still be "plying his trade", and I believe TJH, Cobra dn AH are treading in some very dangerous waters, I hope they are careful. As dangerous as Jerome sounds, can you begin to imagine the next person up on the drug chain? They don't start getting nicer, IYKWIM

Bolding mine

I agree on the dangerous waters. Also I don't know if I would put a video out bragging about how they were tricking them. Also Cobra said someone was telling "false truths" on him. I don't ever remember hearing anyone saying that. Is that an old saying? What does it mean?

On the Cobra interview, TJH was getting down on local LE, then Cobra started defending them. What was that all about? JMO

[AmndaRcknwth]

yeah do you think you could sleep thru a dumpster being dumped if you were in it? Even if he had a few drinks, whatever, I would think you would wake up!

If he woke up when the dumpster was in the trucks mechanism, it was already too late. Trucks are loud. The driver could never even hear the screaming. If it happened like that, Chad was already crushed.

[Mimi428]

Thanks Mimi. Very interesting.

I'm going to read between the lines here and go back to my earlier theory that some, not ALL, but some LEO's don't want strangers coming in their town and disrupting some of the activities that are going on there, i.e. drugs and prostitution. It's obvious to me that some have to be benefiting from these illegal activities or they wouldn't be allowed to continue. The area is small and it's impossible to believe that they didn't know exactly what was going on in that house that Cobra described.

Yes, they finally nailed Jerome and he has no bond this time. But what if Cobra hadn't shaken things up? What if AH and TJH hadn't reported what's been going on there? Would Jerome still be free to keep barely legal young women prostituting themselves for drugs? Imo, the answer is yes.

I think Cobra , AH and TJH are hesitant to come out and say it because they don't want to burn all the bridges. They're already having a hard enough time trying to function (and in some cases, stay alive) in that area.

As far as Misty knowing Jerome, idk, but my guess is she does know him.

AMOO

I am thinking back on the story that Nay Nay told of the weekend she & Misty were hanging out with WBG - & how Lindsay, the extraodinarily generous prostitute, just shared her 'work' money with them. The idea that WBG sat on the couch with Misty & Nay Nay while Lindsay did all the work seemed more than farfetched at the time. Then we get this information about the registered sex offender putting up the money for Nay Nay's bail after Cobra took her back to jail. Next we find out that as soon as she got out of jail the 2nd time, she ends up in a filthy pigsty courtesy of Jerome, where she gets to 'earn' her room & board & drugs by turning tricks.

I think Nay Nay & Misty were at other places during the weekend just before Haleigh went missing. I don't know whether I think Jerome would be all that interested in getting a minor (Misty) involved in the same kind of arrangements he apparently had with Amber & Nay Nay - compelling anyone to prostitution is bad, but compelling a minor to prostitution is worse, legally.

I hope somebody, maybe KP & Cobra, can find Nay Nay & see if she is ready now to get into rehab. Lord knows, she needs it. I think Amber is in the same boat.

JMO

[?noanswer]

I'm a little confused. Several days ago someone posted that NN's child father went to court and got custody. Then on the video of Cobra, he said KP got NN to give him custody until she could go to rehab. There was also something posted about the father filing for child support.

Just now on HLNs, the Mike that is a guest pretty often was kinda giving KP a hard time for starting the custody case. Naturally KP didn't think it was a hindrance to finding Haleigh. She also said she couldn't read where RC was coming from in the video he did, but was glad he was keeping the focus on finding Haleigh. All this is paraphased and not word for word.


JMO

[Mimi428]

I would imagine registered sex offenders living amongst the general public would have a lot of reasons to be afraid. One would hope, anyway.............you know, it used to be true that when a RSO was sent to jail, they had better watch out because criminals behind bars could tolerate alot of things but child molesters wasn't one of them, since alot of them had kids in the outside world....when did that change?

From everything that I have ever heard from my 2nd son-in-law - it hasn't changed. At the facility where he works, they always separate sex offenders charged with crimes against children from everyone else, because they will be mincemeat if they don't. Come to think of it, I think they keep anyone charged with a serious crime against a child isolated.

JMO

[cat3]

I am thinking back on the story that Nay Nay told of the weekend she & Misty were hanging out with WBG - & how Lindsay, the extraodinarily generous prostitute, just shared her 'work' money with them. The idea that WBG sat on the couch with Misty & Nay Nay while Lindsay did all the work seemed more than farfetched at the time. Then we get this information about the registered sex offender putting up the money for Nay Nay's bail after Cobra took her back to jail. Next we find out that as soon as she got out of jail the 2nd time, she ends up in a filthy pigsty courtesy of Jerome, where she gets to 'earn' her room & board & drugs by turning tricks.

I think Nay Nay & Misty were at other places during the weekend just before Haleigh went missing. I don't know whether I think Jerome would be all that interested in getting a minor (Misty) involved in the same kind of arrangements he apparently had with Amber & Nay Nay - compelling anyone to prostitution is bad, but compelling a minor to prostitution is worse, legally.

I hope somebody, maybe KP & Cobra, can find Nay Nay & see if she is ready now to get into rehab. Lord knows, she needs it. I think Amber is in the same boat.

JMO

I don't recall seeing anything in NayNay's records that would indicate she ever engaged in prostituting herself.Maybe I missed it.What do you think Misty,NN and Greg did other than sitting on the couch?
At this point I'm not even sure the wild weekend happened.IMO

[Mimi428]

I don't recall seeing anything in NayNay's records that would indicate she ever engaged in prostituting herself.Maybe I missed it.What do you think Misty,NN and Greg did other than sitting on the couch?
At this point I'm not even sure the wild weekend happened.IMO

Scroll back up to post #54, written by me. Link in that post to another website - & on that website is (among other things) a link to an audio interview with Cobra - where he & TJH talk about Nay Nay's living circumstances after she was bailed out of jail & went to Jerome W's place.

[cat3]

Scroll back up to post #54, written by me. Link in that post to another website - & on that website is (among other things) a link to an audio interview with Cobra - where he & TJH talk about Nay Nay's living circumstances after she was bailed out of jail & went to Jerome W's place.

Okay,Mimi.I may check it out later.Today is just one of those days where I don't care to read ugly about people that may or may not be involved in this case.When Cobra first came on the scene I was hopeful that he could make a difference,but now.....not so much.
Am I correct about NN or am I thinking of Amber as far as records.One only had a theft charge for shoplifting from a store? Might have been Amber.I think both had drug charges? IMO

[E-U-R]

LOL I would like for at least one loose end to be tied up, that's for sure!

And for his paren't peace of mind, I am sure they want him found, when all is said and done, RSO or not, he still has family that love him

I am still on page 1 so if this is a repeat forgive me but... who did he live with? was it his bio mom or bio dad.... bio mom looked kind of like she would be from the trailer park area iykwim... i would love to compare research with you about chad i have been digging on him too.... i also was wondering if you knew his exact release date and exact nature of sex crime... obviously if it is a kid under 14 then it will be hard to figure out their real age since i am guessing they would not put out victim details.....any clue on any of this.... I have all the family's myspace links if you want to check out the "home life" and see their pics let me know and i will post .... i don't want to be off topic otherwise

[E-U-R]

I don't recall seeing anything in NayNay's records that would indicate she ever engaged in prostituting herself.Maybe I missed it.What do you think Misty,NN and Greg did other than sitting on the couch?
At this point I'm not even sure the wild weekend happened.IMO

Hi I think when in the situation of NayNay it would be safe to assume since none of these 3 bimbos were working a legit job and at least 2 of them have confirmed drug arrests (NN and Amber) then it is safe to say that they are at best bardering sex for drugs.... no body gets drugs for free unless you happen to be the one sleeping with the dealer.... so is there a cash exchange probably not but you better believe they are trading "something" for the drugs... wonder if Misty knew that she was the one being traded during that 3 day binge... I guarantee that it was discussed between NN and WBG that NN was going to hook him up with her hot friend for the weekend... I really doubt that they just hit it off.... and again I guarantee that there was something already pre arranged whether Misty knew about it ahead of time or not...

[panache]

I am still on page 1 so if this is a repeat forgive me but... who did he live with? was it his bio mom or bio dad.... bio mom looked kind of like she would be from the trailer park area iykwim... i would love to compare research with you about chad i have been digging on him too.... i also was wondering if you knew his exact release date and exact nature of sex crime... obviously if it is a kid under 14 then it will be hard to figure out their real age since i am guessing they would not put out victim details.....any clue on any of this.... I have all the family's myspace links if you want to check out the "home life" and see their pics let me know and i will post .... i don't want to be off topic otherwise

Hi E-U-R

Madame X is gone for the weekend. I can start you off with this link.

Let me know if there is anything else you would want.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160910/0/news

[E-U-R]

Hi E-U-R

Madame X is gone for the weekend. I can start you off with this link.

Let me know if there is anything else you would want.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160910/0/news

Hi...
Thanks but uuuummmm... there is no link.... :confused:
okay I am editing because i am guessing that you edited too???? i swear that link was not there a sec ago... i could have just lost my mind tho... either was is plausible

[cat3]

Hi I think when in the situation of NayNay it would be safe to assume since none of these 3 bimbos were working a legit job and at least 2 of them have confirmed drug arrests (NN and Amber) then it is safe to say that they are at best bardering sex for drugs.... no body gets drugs for free unless you happen to be the one sleeping with the dealer.... so is there a cash exchange probably not but you better believe they are trading "something" for the drugs... wonder if Misty knew that she was the one being traded during that 3 day binge... I guarantee that it was discussed between NN and WBG that NN was going to hook him up with her hot friend for the weekend... I really doubt that they just hit it off.... and again I guarantee that there was something already pre arranged whether Misty knew about it ahead of time or not...

lol....I think I'll come back after I drink some more iced coffee.You might be surprised how free drugs are for some,with no trade offs needed.It's all about who you know.Or at least that was my experience back in the day.I'm not a fan of Misty's by any means,but we have no proof that she traded herself for drugs.What if she is innocent of anything to do with Haleigh being gone.How are some of you going to feel for posting this kind of stuff about her? I think she may be guilty of at least not being home,but that is a far cry from prostituting herself for drugs.IMO

[E-U-R]

lol....I think I'll come back after I drink some more iced coffee.You might be surprised how free drugs are for some,with no trade offs needed.It's all about who you know.Or at least that was my experience back in the day.I'm not a fan of Misty's by any means,but we have no proof that she traded herself for drugs.What if she is innocent of anything to do with Haleigh being gone.How are some of you going to feel for posting this kind of stuff about her? I think she may be guilty of at least not being home,but that is a far cry from prostituting herself for drugs.IMO

i want to clarify my previous post a little... thinking back on it you are right there are those who got drugs free but in my experience it was either you were cool had an older brother who was cool or it was your friend that was sleeping with the "dealer".... and i was trying to be specific in that I don't think Misty sadi out right yes i will sleep with WBG for X ammounts of drugs.... what I was trying to say is that NN pimped her whether she knew it or not... I don't think NN told her outright that that's what she was doing but Misty may have known in the back of her mind ...or not either way I say she was pimped to WBG and after all the good loving and when WBG's pockets were empty they moved on to an actual prostitute (lindsay) that they reaped off of

[calamitygirl]

lol....I think I'll come back after I drink some more iced coffee.You might be surprised how free drugs are for some,with no trade offs needed.It's all about who you know.Or at least that was my experience back in the day.I'm not a fan of Misty's by any means,but we have no proof that she traded herself for drugs.What if she is innocent of anything to do with Haleigh being gone.How are some of you going to feel for posting this kind of stuff about her? I think she may be guilty of at least not being home,but that is a far cry from prostituting herself for drugs.IMO

My bold and my red.

Hi cat. My thoughts exactly. Just think, any of the players in this could be one of ours. And to some of us, she is. This is why I choose not to bash of them without proof. And no, we don't have to like these people, we can all ask questions, we can state our theories and opinions, but we do not have to trash them. As I said before, I will wait to hear from LE, and I refuse to forget that any of them could be ours.

[E-U-R]

I agree cat3. That was uncalled for and completely unsubstantiated. IMO
I was just giving my opinion as to how the weekend may have happened I did not even bring up the issue of prostitution someone else did.... and again I did not say Misty was a prostitute I said she was most likely unknowingly pimped to WBG by Nay Nay... I don't see how my comment was uncalled for

[cat3]

i want to clarify my previous post a little... thinking back on it you are right there are those who got drugs free but in my experience it was either you were cool had an older brother who was cool or it was your friend that was sleeping with the "dealer".... and i was trying to be specific in that I don't think Misty sadi out right yes i will sleep with WBG for X ammounts of drugs.... what I was trying to say is that NN pimped her whether she knew it or not... I don't think NN told her outright that that's what she was doing but Misty may have known in the back of her mind ...or not either way I say she was pimped to WBG and after all the good loving and when WBG's pockets were empty they moved on to an actual prostitute (lindsay) that they reaped off of

I should probably clarify my post as well.I never was into hard drugs,but had several friends,yrs ago,that would hand me bags of pot for free,and my only reason for bringing that up is to point out that it was all free and nothing was required on my part other than we were friends.So it does happen in my experience and opinion.I understand what you're saying about WBG,but how do we know that Misty and WBG had a relationship,for want of a better word,based on drugs?
If we are to believe anything about the weekend it was said that Misty was with Greg due to a falling out with Ron.To me it sounds as though Misty made the choice to be with Greg on her own.So you think that NN set Misty up to score free drugs? IMO

[panache]

lol....I think I'll come back after I drink some more iced coffee.You might be surprised how free drugs are for some,with no trade offs needed.It's all about who you know.Or at least that was my experience back in the day.I'm not a fan of Misty's by any means,but we have no proof that she traded herself for drugs.What if she is innocent of anything to do with Haleigh being gone.How are some of you going to feel for posting this kind of stuff about her? I think she may be guilty of at least not being home,but that is a far cry from prostituting herself for drugs.IMO

You say she *may be guilty at least of not being home*, and then what if she is innocent of Haleigh being gone*. Isn't that a contradiction?

[Texas48]

ITA Tiff (don't fall off your chair) Jerome WOULD still be "plying his trade", and I believe TJH, Cobra dn AH are treading in some very dangerous waters, I hope they are careful. As dangerous as Jerome sounds, can you begin to imagine the next person up on the drug chain? They don't start getting nicer, IYKWIMI also agree X...

[?noanswer]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/#comments


Post #63. Does AH finally admit what he is in this for? Also if JW told LE something about Haleigh's abduction, could he be believed 'cause it has been said he was wanting LE to cut him some slack in return for the info. JMO

[E-U-R]

I agree cat3. That was uncalled for and completely unsubstantiated. IMO
where was it substantiated that she was not home as stated in the post that you left this reply to?... and another question if you believe that she wasn't home then wouldn't that mean that she did in fact have something to do with Haleigh's disappearance... unless you theory is "well she wasn't home but that had nothing to do with it because even if she was home Haleigh would have disappeared anyways"
guess I don't get it...
me entertaining the idea that she was unknowingly pimped I guess makes her a worse person than your theory where she willingly left the kids alone to begin with... I happen to think that your assumption of her not being home is more "bashing" then my theory of NN taking advantage of her vulnerability (after the alleged fight with RC)
To each his own I guess

[calamitygirl]

I was just giving my opinion as to how the weekend may have happened I did not even bring up the issue of prostitution someone else did.... and again I did not say Misty was a prostitute I said she was most likely unknowingly pimped to WBG by Nay Nay... I don't see how my comment was uncalled for

EUR, I understand what you posted. I can clearly see what you were trying to say. As for that weekend, it very well IMO, could have went down that way.

[Texas48]

yeah do you think you could sleep thru a dumpster being dumped if you were in it? Even if he had a few drinks, whatever, I would think you would wake up!
and God only knows what was in the dumpster with him..kwim?

[cat3]

You say she *may be guilty at least of not being home*, and then what if she is innocent of Haleigh being gone*. Isn't that a contradiction?

I guess so,panache.If she wasn't home,then yes she would be at fault for leaving those kids unsupervised.Which would lead back to Ron for leaving Misty in charge.But what if she was home? I know that I have posted some things about Misty as far as her possible guilt,but I draw the line at saying she may have prostituted herself for drugs.We have no proof of anything like that about Misty.IMO

[E-U-R]

Pimped for what? To do his laundry?
yes his laundry that's exactly what I was getting at... boy you and I think alike

:drool:hubba hubba laundry

[Texas48]

especially since the car he borrowed must have broken down right there, was he hiding from someone, I wonder?
that was my first thought X..I can't believe he would have crawled into a dumpster because he was.....sleepy? Hiding sounds more of the truth....

[E-U-R]

I guess so,panache.If she wasn't home,then yes she would be at fault for leaving those kids unsupervised.Which would lead back to Ron for leaving Misty in charge.But what if she was home? I know that I have posted some things about Misty as far as her possible guilt,but I draw the line at saying she may have prostituted herself for drugs.We have no proof of anything like that about Misty.IMO

AGAIN I NEVER SAID SHE PROSTITUTED HERSELF....
If you are referring to me this is the last time I will clarify... I entertained the idea that she was pimped by NN probably unknowingly

[calamitygirl]

You say she *may be guilty at least of not being home*, and then what if she is innocent of Haleigh being gone*. Isn't that a contradiction?

I don't see it as that at all. Why do we have to be locked into a box?
She might not have been home.
She could have been home.
What if she was innocent?
I honestly believe that some people want to read more along the lines of their own thinking, when in fact, some of us change our minds daily, weekly and now monthly, depending on what the next fact, rumor, or accusation comes along.

[Texas48]

I agree cat3. That was uncalled for and completely unsubstantiated. IMOITA..uncalled for and sad..

[panache]

EUR, I understand what you posted. I can clearly see what you were trying to say. As for that weekend, it very well IMO, could have went down that way.

I understood too, thank you for also being reasonable. I don't think the poster was condemning Misty as much as she was trying to say Misty may have also been set up by her friends.

moo

[cat3]

My bold and my red.

Hi cat. My thoughts exactly. Just think, any of the players in this could be one of ours. And to some of us, she is. This is why I choose not to bash of them without proof. And no, we don't have to like these people, we can all ask questions, we can state our theories and opinions, but we do not have to trash them. As I said before, I will wait to hear from LE, and I refuse to forget that any of them could be ours.

I'm waiting as well for LE.I have no doubt that they will eventually come through with the guilty party.I don't understand the trashing either.When I think about it we only have the word of AH and Cobra and the players that they interviewed about what happened.Again,I'm not a fan of Misty but fair is fair.We know very little about most of these people in this case.IMO

[Texas48]

My bold and my red.

Hi cat. My thoughts exactly. Just think, any of the players in this could be one of ours. And to some of us, she is. This is why I choose not to bash of them without proof. And no, we don't have to like these people, we can all ask questions, we can state our theories and opinions, but we do not have to trash them. As I said before, I will wait to hear from LE, and I refuse to forget that any of them could be ours.ITA calamity...I would think that many of us have daughters...none of us have to go this far with comments like what was stated...once again..sad.jmo

[panache]

I guess so,panache.If she wasn't home,then yes she would be at fault for leaving those kids unsupervised.Which would lead back to Ron for leaving Misty in charge.But what if she was home? I know that I have posted some things about Misty as far as her possible guilt,but I draw the line at saying she may have prostituted herself for drugs.We have no proof of anything like that about Misty.IMO

I think E-U-R was trying to say Misty may have been set up by her so called friends. See my earlier post.

[calamitygirl]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/#comments


Post #63. Does AH finally admit what he is in this for? Also if JW told LE something about Haleigh's abduction, could he be believed 'cause it has been said he was wanting LE to cut him some slack in return for the info. JMO

Does he get money for each click??

Yes ?no, people do that all the time, if they can, whether its a lie or not.
jmo

[E-U-R]

that was my first thought X..I can't believe he would have crawled into a dumpster because he was.....sleepy? Hiding sounds more of the truth....

Hi, I read somewhere that the night he was out he was with a female friend and such said friend's x/current boyfriend came to where ever they were and that he and chad had words... my guess if the boyfriend knew of chads past then i'm sure there was a flurry of names thrown like "you sick pedofile... loser can't get it on your own...yadda yadda" If he supposedly said to the friend (not sure if it is the same one he was out with) "meet me in the dumpster" or I'll be in the dumpster see you later" or something to that effect... my first response is that he did not mean it litterally.... and this is just my gut... but I'm guessing that was some sort of self pity comment... like oh well sense I'm trash I'll be in the dumpster if you need me... I mean honestly why would you hide/sleep/or do anything in a dumpster for that matter... drunk or not?
just my opinion as I find this update strange to say the least

[cat3]

AGAIN I NEVER SAID SHE PROSTITUTED HERSELF....
If you are referring to me this is the last time I will clarify... I entertained the idea that she was pimped by NN probably unknowingly

I understand what you meant,E-U-R.You meant that NN may have set Misty up.My post was a response to a question from,panache.IMO

[cat3]

I think E-U-R was trying to say Misty may have been set up by her so called friends. See my earlier post.

I got it,panache,and it is possible.....IMO

[panache]

I don't see it as that at all. Why do we have to be locked into a box?
She might not have been home.
She could have been home.
What if she was innocent?
I honestly believe that some people want to read more along the lines of their own thinking, when in fact, some of us change our minds daily, weekly and now monthly, depending on what the next fact, rumor, or accusation comes along.

If Misty left a 3yr old and a 5 yr old in that trailor ALONE, for any length of time, she was totally irresponsible. Anything could have happened. I have seen cases where children have been left alone, and at the least, their parents are charged with neglect or child endargement. Perhaps that's one reason why Misty won't pony up that she left that trailer that night.

moo

[calamitygirl]

I understood too, thank you for also being reasonable. I don't think the poster was condemning Misty as much as she was trying to say Misty may have also been set up by her friends.

moo

Thats exactly how I took it. And it definitely is not out of the realm of reality. All one has to do it watch documentaries on it.

[Texas48]

If Misty left a 3yr old and a 5 yr old in that trailor ALONE, for any length of time, she was totally irresponsible. Anything could have happened. I have seen cases where children have been left alone, and at the least, their parents are charged with neglect or child endargement. Perhaps that's one reason why Misty won't pony up that she left that trailer that night.

mooITA pan..if..Misty is proved to have left the kids alone then I hope she is charged with child neglect...she should be IMO.

[E-U-R]

I'm waiting as well for LE.I have no doubt that they will eventually come through with the guilty party.I don't understand the trashing either.When I think about it we only have the word of AH and Cobra and the players that they interviewed about what happened.Again,I'm not a fan of Misty but fair is fair.We know very little about most of these people in this case.IMO

I too am waiting for info from LE as most other sources are skeptical... I thought that Misty admitted to the weekend but I could be wrong
but riddle me this... If it is all made up then why would WBG admit to it and put himself out there as a possible perp and also admit drug use... IMO his interview with art was the truth... if it were just a story that art wrote about that would be one thing but I saw the actual video of the interview so mty question remains... why on earth would WBG make that up for, what could he have possibly gained? He doesn't strike me as someone who would take his five minutes of fame as a possible child /killer/stealer/etc.
JMO I guess

[calamitygirl]

I'm waiting as well for LE.I have no doubt that they will eventually come through with the guilty party.I don't understand the trashing either.When I think about it we only have the word of AH and Cobra and the players that they interviewed about what happened.Again,I'm not a fan of Misty but fair is fair.We know very little about most of these people in this case.IMO

Thanks cat. Its good not to be alone on those thoughts. I don't necessarily care for the people in Haleighs life, but it is what it is. After the guilty party is found, and I believe they will be found, there will be enough bashing to go around for everyone.

[cat3]

ITA pan..if..Misty is proved to have left the kids alone then I hope she is charged with child neglect...she should be IMO.

Of course she should be charged with neglect if she left those kids alone.I don't think anyone would disagree with that.IMO

[calamitygirl]

I think E-U-R was trying to say Misty may have been set up by her so called friends. See my earlier post.

Yes, Yes, and Yes again. I don't know why that seems to be unbelieveable. But to each their own.
jmo

[?noanswer]

Does he get money for each click??

Yes ?no, people do that all the time, if they can, whether its a lie or not.
jmo

I understand that advertisers pay based on clicks. Post 63 is a response to another comment that said he should get his own TV show. JMO

[E-U-R]

I understood too, thank you for also being reasonable. I don't think the poster was condemning Misty as much as she was trying to say Misty may have also been set up by her friends.

moo

Thank you for understanding that is pretty much exactly what I was saying....
She was most likely vulnerable and probably didn't get out often and when she did NN and others took advantage of her situation....
I can't even understand how some would misinterpret that to be bashing of Misty but whatever

[calamitygirl]

If Misty left a 3yr old and a 5 yr old in that trailor ALONE, for any length of time, she was totally irresponsible. Anything could have happened. I have seen cases where children have been left alone, and at the least, their parents are charged with neglect or child endargement. Perhaps that's one reason why Misty won't pony up that she left that trailer that night.

moo

IF, IF, she did leave them alone, I think she should be brought up on charges.

And yes, if she left, I can see why she isn't talking.

[panache]

Hi, I read somewhere that the night he was out he was with a female friend and such said friend's x/current boyfriend came to where ever they were and that he and chad had words... my guess if the boyfriend knew of chads past then i'm sure there was a flurry of names thrown like "you sick pedofile... loser can't get it on your own...yadda yadda" If he supposedly said to the friend (not sure if it is the same one he was out with) "meet me in the dumpster" or I'll be in the dumpster see you later" or something to that effect... my first response is that he did not mean it litterally.... and this is just my gut... but I'm guessing that was some sort of self pity comment... like oh well sense I'm trash I'll be in the dumpster if you need me... I mean honestly why would you hide/sleep/or do anything in a dumpster for that matter... drunk or not?
just my opinion as I find this update strange to say the least

Your getting close to how many think it went down. Have you read about Bill yet? He plays a big role in Chad's life after he was released. BTW, you asked where he was living. I believe he was with his mom, but planning on moving to Ga. to his Dad's and stepmom's.

moo

[?noanswer]

IF, IF, she did leave them alone, I think she should be brought up on charges.

And yes, if she left, I can see why she isn't talking.

Just common sense in both your statements. JMO

[panache]

I understand that advertisers pay based on clicks. Post 63 is a response to another comment that said he should get his own TV show. JMO

I've never noticed if he has advertisers on this blog. Does he? He must be getting paid somehow, I don't think he is working at anything else at the moment.

[cat3]

I too am waiting for info from LE as most other sources are skeptical... I thought that Misty admitted to the weekend but I could be wrong
but riddle me this... If it is all made up then why would WBG admit to it and put himself out there as a possible perp and also admit drug use... IMO his interview with art was the truth... if it were just a story that art wrote about that would be one thing but I saw the actual video of the interview so mty question remains... why on earth would WBG make that up for, what could he have possibly gained? He doesn't strike me as someone who would take his five minutes of fame as a possible child /killer/stealer/etc.
JMO I guess

Let's see.WBG is 28 yrs old IIRC.Still young enough that he wants to brag about his wild weekend with the girls.It could very well all be true,but consider that KP,Cobra and AH all seem to have the same goal,in my opinion,and that is to put the worst light possible on the Cummings family.How much can we really believe in what they have to say when we are only getting one side of the story? We have NN with her stories as well,and who knows why she may be speaking out at this time.Are they offering any kind of incentive for the interviews? We just don't know.IMO

[E-U-R]

ITA pan..if..Misty is proved to have left the kids alone then I hope she is charged with child neglect...she should be IMO.
actually if she left the child alone in some states (not sure on FL) but it is not neglect it is abandonment and in some states it is a felony.... so take it a step further... any death occurring during a felony is the direct responsibility of the person committing the felony
ex: Joe and Bob rob a bank they have no gun but state that they do so the security guard shoots and kills joe... bob is now charged with his murder because it occurred during a felony

[cat3]

Thanks cat. Its good not to be alone on those thoughts. I don't necessarily care for the people in Haleighs life, but it is what it is. After the guilty party is found, and I believe they will be found, there will be enough bashing to go around for everyone.

I agree.At this point I don't care who it is, just that they are made to pay.IMO

[?noanswer]

I've never noticed if he has advertisers on this blog. Does he? He must be getting paid somehow, I don't think he is working at anything else at the moment.

Yes, he does. They are at the top of the page and sometimes at the beginning of his article. A couple of days ago, there were some about help for people doing drugs!! JMO

[?noanswer]

Let's see.WBG is 28 yrs old IIRC.Still young enough that he wants to brag about his wild weekend with the girls.It could very well all be true,but consider that KP,Cobra and AH all seem to have the same goal,in my opinion,and that is to put the worst light possible on the Cummings family.How much can we really believe in what they have to say when we are only getting one side of the story? We have NN with her stories as well,and who knows why she may be speaking out at this time.Are they offering any kind of incentive for the interviews? We just don't know.IMO


Your questions are the one that I would like to know the answers to. JMO

[panache]

Let's see.WBG is 28 yrs old IIRC.Still young enough that he wants to brag about his wild weekend with the girls.It could very well all be true,but consider that KP,Cobra and AH all seem to have the same goal,in my opinion,and that is to put the worst light possible on the Cummings family.How much can we really believe in what they have to say when we are only getting one side of the story? We have NN with her stories as well,and who knows why she may be speaking out at this time.Are they offering any kind of incentive for the interviews? We just don't know.IMO

Art has done at least two favorable pieces about Misty and Ron. I don't believe he is intentionally trying to *put the worst light on the Cummings*. In my opinion, he is going with the flow. Just think what a story it would be for him, if none of the Cummings or Misty had a thing to do with this abduction. I think Art's riding the fence in case that should happen.

moo

[TaraCrazyHair]

Good Evening (:

Kinda skimming through posts to catch up .. and I am confused?

Was Chad Reynolds found in a dumpster??

[?noanswer]

Good Evening (:

Kinda skimming through posts to catch up .. and I am confused?

Was Chad Reynolds found in a dumpster??

No!! As soon as you read all the posts it will become clear what this is all about. Somewhere upthread there is a link to a newspaper article that explains it pretty good. JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

I had thought that perhaps her lawyer had advised her to keep quiet, but that theory is gone. I don't think she was home that night, and her silence may be killing Haleigh. Fear of reprisal is one thing, a child's life is something that must go beyond that fear.

All imo.


If she wasn't home that night .. then somebody was watching her and her actions

MOO since I don't believe any stranger entered that home and took Haleigh

(Not sure she left the home unless it was to do the unthinkable)

[E-U-R]

I understand that advertisers pay based on clicks. Post 63 is a response to another comment that said he should get his own TV show. JMO

I actaully can state this as a fact as my career depends on it... when you run a website you monitor traffic flow... some take to the extreme of finding out more info on their visitors...
once you can validate that x ammount of tom dick and harry's visit your website regularly then you take that proof and go for advertisers... once you get the advertisers you can do a couple different things:
either convince them that you can give them their ideal audience and charge them an arm and a leg to run their ad on your website (this is where it gets personal because by visiting certain websites they will know all your future websites visits too if they want to track you internet searches which i find to be an invasion of privacy)
or you can put their ad on your website for free and collect a fee for everytime they click on that ad which would redirect the visitor to the advertisers website....
1st way I find to be sleazy but JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

No!! As soon as you read all the posts it will become clear what this is all about. Somewhere upthread there is a link to a newspaper article that explains it pretty good. JMO

Thanks!

Good thing it seems to be a slow day .. should not be hard to find it

[?noanswer]

Art has done at least two favorable pieces about Misty and Ron. I don't believe he is intentionally trying to *put the worst light on the Cummings*. In my opinion, he is going with the flow. Just think what a story it would be for him, if none of the Cummings or Misty had a thing to do with this abduction. I think Art's riding the fence in case that should happen.

moo

The one thing that kinda upset me is when he posted that CS's dad claimed Ron stole some starving dogs and gave one to him. The dad was charged with dog theft. My take was that at least Ron was trying to save the dogs from starvation. There is also other police reports on CS's dad involving animals that do not paint him in a good light. I don't think RC is responsible for his trouble with Le. jmo

[cat3]

Art has done at least two favorable pieces about Misty and Ron. I don't believe he is intentionally trying to *put the worst light on the Cummings*. In my opinion, he is going with the flow. Just think what a story it would be for him, if none of the Cummings or Misty had a thing to do with this abduction. I think Art's riding the fence in case that should happen.

moo

My last post for a while.Have to make dinner.I think AH is just posting what he's getting,and he is getting nothing from the Cummings.All information from the Cummings stopped when KP entered the picture.I think Ron trusted Cobra for a while,but that changed when Cobra did an audio interview about Ron and Misty,and talked trash about TN setting him up to be harmed in the woods.IMO

[?noanswer]

I actaully can state this as a fact as my career depends on it... when you run a website you monitor traffic flow... some take to the extreme of finding out more info on their visitors...
once you can validate that x ammount of tom dick and harry's visit your website regularly then you take that proof and go for advertisers... once you get the advertisers you can do a couple different things:
either convince them that you can give them their ideal audience and charge them an arm and a leg to run their ad on your website (this is where it gets personal because by visiting certain websites they will know all your future websites visits too if they want to track you internet searches which i find to be an invasion of privacy)
or you can put their ad on your website for free and collect a fee for everytime they click on that ad which would redirect the visitor to the advertisers website....
1st way I find to be sleazy but JMO


Glad I haven't posted on his site!!! I hesitate to go there, but then my curisoty/nosiness gets the best of me!! JMO

[E-U-R]

Your getting close to how many think it went down. Have you read about Bill yet? He plays a big role in Chad's life after he was released. BTW, you asked where he was living. I believe he was with his mom, but planning on moving to Ga. to his Dad's and stepmom's.

moo
If he was hiding from someone why would he have to go in the dumpster? assuming he knew the person he was hiding from then wouldn't they recognize the car and possibly check the dumpster?
was this car operable I know that it was said that the car he borrowed broke down but is this a different car we are talking about here?
and no I do not know who Bill is but I would like to... got a link?
thanks in advance if you do

[TaraCrazyHair]

I don't recall seeing anything in NayNay's records that would indicate she ever engaged in prostituting herself.Maybe I missed it.What do you think Misty,NN and Greg did other than sitting on the couch?
At this point I'm not even sure the wild weekend happened.IMO


You don't think the wild weekend where Ron told Misty to bring a condom when she came home is true?

;)

I think Misty did take off, i do think Misty was partying all weekend with unscrupulous characters but the condom part ... sheesh

If that part is true .. she is one stupid girl!

MOO of course

[panache]

I actaully can state this as a fact as my career depends on it... when you run a website you monitor traffic flow... some take to the extreme of finding out more info on their visitors...
once you can validate that x ammount of tom dick and harry's visit your website regularly then you take that proof and go for advertisers... once you get the advertisers you can do a couple different things:
either convince them that you can give them their ideal audience and charge them an arm and a leg to run their ad on your website (this is where it gets personal because by visiting certain websites they will know all your future websites visits too if they want to track you internet searches which i find to be an invasion of privacy)
or you can put their ad on your website for free and collect a fee for everytime they click on that ad which would redirect the visitor to the advertisers website....
1st way I find to be sleazy but JMO

That is great information. Never was aware of that. It explains one thing I wondered about. On a board I post at, let's say we are discussing pain meds, and the next thing I noticed a banner goes up advertising pain meds. How do they know what the discussion is about?

[?noanswer]

That is great information. Never was aware of that. It explains one thing I wondered about. On a board I post at, let's say we are discussing pain meds, and the next thing I noticed a banner goes up advertising pain meds. How do they know what the discussion is about?

Guess!! They do it the same way this site picks up on words such as the B words. They use programs designed to catch certain words.
Also a good web designer puts in keywords that pertains to that site. The site is then submitted to the different seach engines. When you go to that search engine and put in a word, it will direct you to the sights that have that word. JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

The one thing that kinda upset me is when he posted that CS's dad claimed Ron stole some starving dogs and gave one to him. The dad was charged with dog theft. My take was that at least Ron was trying to save the dogs from starvation. There is also other police reports on CS's dad involving animals that do not paint him in a good light. I don't think RC is responsible for his trouble with Le. jmo


I had the impression these were not stray dogs ..?

[cat3]

You don't think the wild weekend where Ron told Misty to bring a condom when she came home is true?

;)

I think Misty did take off, i do think Misty was partying all weekend with unscrupulous characters but the condom part ... sheesh

If that part is true .. she is one stupid girl!

MOO of course

Well....NN says it's true,but what do we know about NN and her ability to tell the truth? Didn't LE in that same AH article say that NN says what she thinks people want to hear?

[TaraCrazyHair]

That is great information. Never was aware of that. It explains one thing I wondered about. On a board I post at, let's say we are discussing pain meds, and the next thing I noticed a banner goes up advertising pain meds. How do they know what the discussion is about?

Cookies ... change privacy settings

[TaraCrazyHair]

Well....NN says it's true,but what do we know about NN and her ability to tell the truth? Didn't LE in that same AH article say that NN says what she thinks people want to hear?

I think that was Amber .. not Nay Nay

[E-U-R]

Thanks!

Good thing it seems to be a slow day .. should not be hard to find it

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160910/0/news
hope that helps

[E-U-R]

Glad I haven't posted on his site!!! I hesitate to go there, but then my curisoty/nosiness gets the best of me!! JMO

since he asks for peoples email adresses in such a straight forward way... like you do not "register" yet he wants your email address... I'm GUESSING he goes the 1st route I described... plus he pretty much said as much when he was ranting and raving about people not linking his stuff back to him... yes it is copyright law but he outright said in one of his comments ... How am I supposed to get advertisers if you don't link me
JMO

[?noanswer]

I had the impression these were not stray dogs ..?

I don't think they were, but they were being abused. I don't think he should have taken them, should have called animal control. But I don't think Mr. Sheffield should blame RC for his problems with LE. Seems he has created enough on his own. JMO

[panache]

If he was hiding from someone why would he have to go in the dumpster? assuming he knew the person he was hiding from then wouldn't they recognize the car and possibly check the dumpster?
was this car operable I know that it was said that the car he borrowed broke down but is this a different car we are talking about here?
and no I do not know who Bill is but I would like to... got a link?
thanks in advance if you do

Bill is Chad's deceased sister's boyfriend. Chad and Bill got along like oil and water.

I'll get some articles together later and pm them to you.

[panache]

I posted a couple of photos back on page 2 or 3, here's another one that is just too cute. IMO



http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/Haleighphotobucket/crystalchadchloejr.jpg

[panache]

My gosh, Misty looks so young here. What the heck is going to become of her?

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/090313/tdy_vieira_haleigh_090313.300w.jpg

[TaraCrazyHair]

My gosh, Misty looks so young here. What the heck is going to become of her?

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/090313/tdy_vieira_haleigh_090313.300w.jpg

Ummmm ... she is young

[TaraCrazyHair]

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160910/0/news
hope that helps

Thanks (:

Nothing about the dumpster though?

CR was about 18/19 when this happened .. Has it ever been said if he was slow or something wrong with him?

Just seems like an odd thing to do for that age

[?noanswer]

My gosh, Misty looks so young here. What the heck is going to become of her?

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/090313/tdy_vieira_haleigh_090313.300w.jpg


I think Misty is/was a child that was failed by her parents. Seems she did not have a lot of support. Kinda been on her own for quite a while it seems. Course I do now there are some children that no matter what the parent does, they still go down the wrong path. If she truly loves Ron, she will listen to his advice and stay away from the likes of NN. JMO

[E-U-R]

Bill is Chad's deceased sister's boyfriend. Chad and Bill got along like oil and water.

I'll get some articles together later and pm them to you.
yes definitely do and in the meantime here is the link to this Bill's myspace ... it didn't have his name on it so I had no clue what his name was but you just solved 1 mystery for me

http://www.myspace.com/neeper07

I understand oil and water to not get along at all... interesting that he has a have you seen chad poster in his pics and some one leaves the comment that
"i hope he comes home safe for you "

[Peaches]

I think Misty is/was a child that was failed by her parents. Seems she did not have a lot of support. Kinda been on her own for quite a while it seems. Course I do now there are some children that no matter what the parent does, they still go down the wrong path. JMO

From what we have read, I would agree with you that Misty was failed by her parents.jmo

[FrankieBones1]

Ummmm ... she is youngTrue but she looked more like a ten year old in that pic.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Ok found the dumpster story

I am thinking it was supposed to read "waiting at the dumpster" not in the dumpster

lol

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster

[Peaches]

ITA pan..if..Misty is proved to have left the kids alone then I hope she is charged with child neglect...she should be IMO.


ITA also. No one should leave children alone.

[TaraCrazyHair]

True but she looked more like a ten year old in that pic.

Yes she does

Kinda scary if you think about it .. and his habit of young girls

Crystal, Amber and Misty all look close in face and in age and all young (well until Amber hit the drugs)


Almost a pattern

[FrankieBones1]

Yes she does

Kinda scary if you think about it .. and his habit of young girls

Crystal, Amber and Misty all look close in face and in age and all young (well until Amber hit the drugs)


Almost a pattern
Can the DA do anything about it after the fact? Has too much time elapsed?

[FrankieBones1]

If Misty left a 3yr old and a 5 yr old in that trailor ALONE, for any length of time, she was totally irresponsible. Anything could have happened. I have seen cases where children have been left alone, and at the least, their parents are charged with neglect or child endargement. Perhaps that's one reason why Misty won't pony up that she left that trailer that night.

moo
I get the feeling that did happen. Not sure what kind of time she would face in jail or prison but I hope the truth comes out soon and she is charged. I'm sure that is the basis for all her lies. She wasn't there.
IMO

[?noanswer]

I get the feeling that did happen. Not sure what kind of time she would face in jail or prison but I hope the truth comes out soon and she is charged. I'm sure that is the basis for all her lies. She wasn't there.
IMO


IIRC someone on some site said that LE might give immunity to someone who could provide information. I wonder if Misty did leave the kids alone that night if LE would give her immunity if she would admit it to them. I think that would help LE immensely in their solution to this disappearance. Especially, if whomever she was with could verify that the children were asleep when Misty left the house and Haleigh was gone when she returned. JMO

[panache]

I think Misty is/was a child that was failed by her parents. Seems she did not have a lot of support. Kinda been on her own for quite a while it seems. Course I do now there are some children that no matter what the parent does, they still go down the wrong path. If she truly loves Ron, she will listen to his advice and stay away from the likes of NN. JMO

Locals have said she was 13 when her parents put her on the street. If that's true, I bet that was the end of her schooling too.

moo

[E-U-R]

Thanks (:

Nothing about the dumpster though?

CR was about 18/19 when this happened .. Has it ever been said if he was slow or something wrong with him?

Just seems like an odd thing to do for that age

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster

no clue about slowness i think he kind of looks that way (young) because he spent like 1/3 of his life in jail and is only 25

[calamitygirl]

Let's see.WBG is 28 yrs old IIRC.Still young enough that he wants to brag about his wild weekend with the girls.It could very well all be true,but consider that KP,Cobra and AH all seem to have the same goal,in my opinion,and that is to put the worst light possible on the Cummings family.How much can we really believe in what they have to say when we are only getting one side of the story? We have NN with her stories as well,and who knows why she may be speaking out at this time.Are they offering any kind of incentive for the interviews? We just don't know.IMO

My bold

Just what I was thinking. Guy bragging story. And I agree with the rest. Looking for trash, NOT looking for Haleigh, IMO.

[Texas48]

I was just giving my opinion as to how the weekend may have happened I did not even bring up the issue of prostitution someone else did.... and again I did not say Misty was a prostitute I said she was most likely unknowingly pimped to WBG by Nay Nay... I don't see how my comment was uncalled forE-U-R.......I responded to your post and then some time passed and I even logged off for the night and still was thinking about your post......I think I took your thoughts completely wrong and wanted to come back and say so......after reading and re-reading your senerio makes very good sense and I was able to see you were NOT saying Misty was pros. herself....I do want to say I am sorry for misreading....and you do have a good theorie of what could have taken place that weekend........

[Peaches]

Locals have said she was 13 when her parents put her on the street. If that's true, I bet that was the end of her schooling too.

moo



If this is true, her parents should have been arrested and Misty placed with someone to take care of her.

No wonder the poor girl did not know how to answer questions. She does not know the meaning of many words.

Probably did not go to school much when she was at home.

Maybe Misty thought Ron was/is the answer to all her prayers.

What a sad life she has been given and one that she did not deserve.

all moo

[calamitygirl]

I had thought that perhaps her lawyer had advised her to keep quiet, but that theory is gone. I don't think she was home that night, and her silence may be killing Haleigh. Fear of reprisal is one thing, a child's life is something that must go beyond that fear.

All imo.

Very true, lizzie

[Mimi428]

Let's see.WBG is 28 yrs old IIRC.Still young enough that he wants to brag about his wild weekend with the girls.It could very well all be true,but consider that KP,Cobra and AH all seem to have the same goal,in my opinion,and that is to put the worst light possible on the Cummings family.How much can we really believe in what they have to say when we are only getting one side of the story? We have NN with her stories as well,and who knows why she may be speaking out at this time.Are they offering any kind of incentive for the interviews? We just don't know.IMO

Did you ever listen to the audio interview I posted about earlier?

If you haven't it would be worth your while. You would not be making those accusations about what 'goals' Cobra, KP & AH have - not one time did Cobra say 'Ron, Misty, or Cummings'.

What do you suppose it is like to try to enter into - or just be in the general vicinity of an area that is considered the domain of someone like Jerome W? I pray you never know. The day you do, I doubt you will ever be inclined towards such casual denigration of the motives, much less the actions of people who are willing to risk pi$$ing off drug dealers & p*mps.

JMO

[?noanswer]

If this is true, her parents should have been arrested and Misty placed with someone to take care of her.

No wonder the poor girl did not know how to answer questions. She does not know the meaning of many words.

Probably did not go to school much when she was at home.

Maybe Misty thought Ron was/is the answer to all her prayers.

What a sad life she has been given and one that she did not deserve.

all moo

No child deserves this. Maybe meeting Ron & moving in with him gave her a place to stay where she felt safe. IIRC, it was also posted that the parents threw Misty, her brother & his wife out of their house at one time. I guess the parents got fed up supporting the bunch of them, but at least the brother & his wife were old enough to take care of themselves. Misty was still a minor. JMO

[Peaches]

Locals have said she was 13 when her parents put her on the street. If that's true, I bet that was the end of her schooling too.

moo

panache, the more I think about this the more my heart aches for Misty and for children just like her.

When you bring a child into this world, you owe them so much. First of all as a parents you owe them a home and all that should come with it....food/shelter/clothes/etc..............but most of all you owe them your love. If you love someone, you will always do your best to take care of them. To put their needs before your own.

Sometimes I think many of us lead a sheltered life.....or do not see this side of life.

jmo

[Mimi428]

Locals have said she was 13 when her parents put her on the street. If that's true, I bet that was the end of her schooling too.

moo


Oh, I don't think her 'schooling' ended. It just wasn't being taught inside a traditional public school classroom.

I have a hard time believing her parents would have totally abandoned her at age 13 - by law she would still have to be in school. I imagine she dropped out as soon as she was legally able to do so, however.

JMO

[Peaches]

Oh, I don't think her 'schooling' ended. It just wasn't being taught inside a traditional public school classroom.

I have a hard time believing her parents would have totally abandoned her at age 13 - by law she would still have to be in school. I imagine she dropped out as soon as she was legally able to do so, however.

JMO


Mimi, many parents move and move and move and their children are lost in the system. They do not attend school as required ......... or they simply say that they are being home schooled.

jmo

[E-U-R]

E-U-R.......I responded to your post and then some time passed and I even logged off for the night and still was thinking about your post......I think I took your thoughts completely wrong and wanted to come back and say so......after reading and re-reading your senerio makes very good sense and I was able to see you were NOT saying Misty was pros. herself....I do want to say I am sorry for misreading....and you do have a good theorie of what could have taken place that weekend........

Thank you and by no means lose sleep over it:wink:
now the real mystery lies in what happened the day she returned to rons and knowing (assuming) rons over controlling verbally abusive demeanor (basing that on the 911 call) I can only imagine what state of mind he put Misty into.... NN already said Ron hates her (NN) so my assumption would be Ron let Misty know that she was pimped and most likely referred to her in the not so nice term that means prostitute...and let her know how stupid she was for thinking otherwise next day haleigh is missing because??????
if only we knew
I really do think this 3 day weekend binge has a lot to do with it... at least it can shed light on to Misty's state of mind at the time of whatever happened

[calamitygirl]

Yes she does

Kinda scary if you think about it .. and his habit of young girls

Crystal, Amber and Misty all look close in face and in age and all young (well until Amber hit the drugs)


Almost a pattern

Isn't Crystal only 2 yrs. younger that Ron?

IIRC, Misty is the youngest.

[panache]

Oh, I don't think her 'schooling' ended. It just wasn't being taught inside a traditional public school classroom.

I have a hard time believing her parents would have totally abandoned her at age 13 - by law she would still have to be in school. I imagine she dropped out as soon as she was legally able to do so, however.

JMO

Mimi

Don't get me wrong, I'm of the mind, Misty was living a life far beyond her years. She's street savy. I do think she was quite close to the age of 13 when her parents first threw her out, as I recall when her myspace was public, she spoke about it. No doubt, her parents had a hard time controlling her.

Her old myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/412920159

[panache]

What pattern?

Ron was a teenager when he was with Crystal. She was 15, he was 17 when they first hooked up. With Amber he was within the legal age to be with her. Misti is the only one he was skirting the legal age limit with so I'm not seeing what kind of pattern you are seeing.

Didn't Crystal say she was fourteen when she hooked up with Ron? She was 19 during the custody hearings right?

BTW, Didn't Ron say he liked youger girls? I seem to recall someone asked that question, and he gave that flip answer.

moo

[panache]

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=412920159&albumID=0&imageID=2536974

[E-U-R]

My bold

Just what I was thinking. Guy bragging story. And I agree with the rest. Looking for trash, NOT looking for Haleigh, IMO.

possibly right about art's motives but no guy needs to brag about misty to the point that they throw themselves into a missing child possible murder/ abduction scenario
not to mention that he is a drug user and says as much now the cops know that too... what would his rationale be if not just telling how it was... like i said guys will brag but i am sorry Misty is not such a prize that you would want to brag that badly... no girl is
I don't think that his motivation was to get on tv and brag about Misty I think it was more to clear his name publicly and to set the record straight
I usually end my comments with I guess you could be right but I am sorry I cannot even fathom that you could be on this one

[Mimi428]

Sometimes I think many of us lead a sheltered life.....or do not see this side of life.

<snipped>

I have no doubt of it. None, whatsoever.

One of the worst ones I remember, probably because my daughter was so close in age to this young girl at the time, was a situation where a 14 year old blond-haired, blue-eyed girl from a small town, ran away from home because she & her parents did not get along.

She got on a bus in NE Texas & got off in Austin. Befriended by someone very much the likes of Jerome, who took her to get something to eat, ran a smooth line of BS past her that she had no way to comprehend. Within 2 hours, he had convinced her that the police wanted to arrest her for a terrible crime, & that the only way to stay safe was to stick with him.

Then he raped her. You name the orifice. Just take your pick, you wouldn't be wrong. Then he essentially imprisoned her, kept her in a back room with no clothes most of the time & sold her little body to all sorts of lowlife scum, until she was so broken down & drug addicted & past caring that she didn't realize that when she stood on the corner of that area of town, soliciting sex at $5 per BJ, with her blond hair & her blue eyes, she pretty much stuck out like the proverbial sore thumb.

Now think about how many little girls DON'T stick out like sore thumbs wherever they are. The ONLY thing that got that little girl away from that guy was that she looked so different from every other underage prostitute in that part of town.

Every time I read a comment about how Nay Nay or Amber or whichever teenager just go along & have sex willingly with this guy or that -especially when the guy is 10, 15, 20+ years older than they are, I just shake my head. Does anyone EVER wonder how they got to that point in their young lives, that they would DO that sort of thing?

JMO

[E-U-R]

Isn't Crystal only 2 yrs. younger that Ron?

IIRC, Misty is the youngest.

youngest of his baby mamma's not necessarily his girlfriends... remember the video where teresa is saying how misty comes out on th etop of a long list as far as being a good girlfriend

[?noanswer]

Didn't Crystal say she was fourteen when she hooked up with Ron? She was 19 during the custody hearings right?

BTW, Didn't Ron say he liked youger girls? I seem to recall someone asked that question, and he gave that flip answer.

moo

14/15, either one is too young to start playing house and having children (RC was also too young). CS is 23 now, Haleigh is 5 which means she would have been 17/18/19 (depending on birthday of her & Haleigh) when Haleigh was born and 9 months earlier than that when Haleigh was conceived. I guess the only difference between CS & MC is that RC was only a couple of years older than CS; whereas with MC he was 8 yrs older. Having said all that, one can't change history, but hopefully history will not be repeated. The chore at hand is to find Haleigh. The other things can be worked on later. JMO

[?noanswer]

Since I seem to be posting to myself, will add another piece of my wisdom!!

CS's mom & dad seem to blame all of CS's problems on Ron, but where were they when their underage daughter started playing house with Ron? JMO

[panache]

Since I seem to be posting to myself, will add another piece of my wisdom!!

CS's mom & dad seem to blame all of CS's problems on Ron, but where were they when their underage daughter started playing house with Ron? JMO

Not paying attention, I would say.. But were Marie and Crystal's dad together then, or had they moved on? I never looked at that aspect.

[?noanswer]

Not paying attention, I would say.. But were Marie and Crystal's dad together then, or had they moved on? I never looked at that aspect.


I don't know the answer to that. Seems like all the players played house with different players pretty often. JMO

[calamitygirl]

possibly right about art's motives but no guy needs to brag about misty to the point that they throw themselves into a missing child possible murder/ abduction scenario
not to mention that he is a drug user and says as much now the cops know that too... what would his rationale be if not just telling how it was... like i said guys will brag but i am sorry Misty is not such a prize that you would want to brag that badly... no girl is
I don't think that his motivation was to get on tv and brag about Misty I think it was more to clear his name publicly and to set the record straight
I usually end my comments with I guess you could be right but I am sorry I cannot even fathom that you could be on this one

The cops already know about Greg. I would guess the cops would have to prove what Greg said about the drugs. I don't know if they could arrest him without some kind of proof. And by his arrest record, I would guess he knows something about the law.
Bragging about his weekend excursion, who knows, but he was talking to another guy.
I do think that the outside players did get involved in the beginning to help find Haleigh but instead found juicier subjects.
I do not believe Greg had anything to do with Haleigh.
jmo

[?noanswer]

The cops already know about Greg. I would guess the cops would have to prove what Greg said about the drugs. I don't know if they could arrest him without some kind of proof. And by his arrest record, I would guess he knows something about the law.
Bragging about his weekend excursion, who knows, but he was talking to another guy.
I do think that the outside players did get involved in the beginning to help find Haleigh but instead found juicier subjects.
I do not believe Greg had anything to do with Haleigh.
jmo


Didn't KP say that they turn over everything to LE, but LE alreadys knows about it? JMO

[calamitygirl]

Since I seem to be posting to myself, will add another piece of my wisdom!!

CS's mom & dad seem to blame all of CS's problems on Ron, but where were they when their underage daughter started playing house with Ron? JMO

Hope you get an answer to that cuz I sure would like to know too.

[?noanswer]

Somewhere there is a paragraph Misty wrote entitled *About Me*. She talks of moving from Michigan down to Fla., and how she moved into her brother's home. Not the one that lives near Green St. Wherever it was, she didn't stay long, and then moved to Patulak. Maybe someone saved that info.

moo


Wonder who she was living with in Michigan. Were her parents living there and moved off and left her? Did she live in Satsuma and run away from home? JMO

[calamitygirl]

I'm listening, ?no. It seems this merry go round doesn't end, nor does the blame game.

I don't know, but it may be that her parents were as happy to have Ron take her off their hands as to keep her. I have nothing to back that, but it seems to be the way things go there. Then the babies start having babies, and the circle keeps on going.

The sad fact is, it not just there, but every where.

[diamond]

Ummmm ... she is young

She looks like a 12 year old in that picture. I remember that interview.

[calamitygirl]

Didn't KP say that they turn over everything to LE, but LE alreadys knows about it? JMO

I believe I did hear that.

[?noanswer]

o/t

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754085&IMG=58573

They caught a big one tonight. 60,000.+ bail. All charges are for failure to appear. Looking at that again, I wonder if someone got carried away with typing up the information.

They have also jailed several for driving w/o license. Does anyone in that town have a DL? JMO

[playnice]

o/t

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754085&IMG=58573

They caught a big one tonight. 60,000.+ bail. All charges are for failure to appear. Looking at that again, I wonder if someone got carried away with typing up the information.

They have also jailed several for driving w/o license. Does anyone in that town have a DL? JMO

does anyone in that town not have a police record?:shrug:

[panache]

Wonder who she was living with in Michigan. Were her parents living there and moved off and left her? Did she live in Satsuma and run away from home? JMO

It sounded to me at the time that Misty followed her parents down here. They moved first.

Don't they still have relatives in Michigan? The Overstreets originally came from there too. ( Lisa Croslin's sister.) Darn I think all this info is buried in lost archieved threads.

[cat3]

Did you ever listen to the audio interview I posted about earlier?

If you haven't it would be worth your while. You would not be making those accusations about what 'goals' Cobra, KP & AH have - not one time did Cobra say 'Ron, Misty, or Cummings'.

What do you suppose it is like to try to enter into - or just be in the general vicinity of an area that is considered the domain of someone like Jerome W? I pray you never know. The day you do, I doubt you will ever be inclined towards such casual denigration of the motives, much less the actions of people who are willing to risk pi$$ing off drug dealers & p*mps.

JMO

I haven't listened to it yet,Mimi,but I will.I doubt it will change my opinion of Cobra,KP and AH,but I will listen to the audio interview.
I try to keep up with all aspects of the case.
If I'm wrong about any of these people I will owe them an apology,but have to admit that it seems as though they are putting on a show for the masses,and are in it for their own reasons that have little or nothing to do with finding Haleigh.Think how many times Cobra has said that he will solve the case,only to have zero results.Then we have KP with her abuse allegations,and yet Jr is still with the Cummings family.In my opinion they have brought nothing to the investigation of what happened to Haleigh.LE already knew everything they have brought to the table.
As for Cobra......I hope he will be okay.After all if TN can spook him in the woods,maybe he is worried about his safety.
O/T.....back to cooking.I'm having a cookout tommorow and trying to do food prep tonight so I apologize if my posts are hard to read,but I check in when I get breaks from cooking.IMO

[cat3]

Didn't KP say that they turn over everything to LE, but LE alreadys knows about it? JMO

Yep....that is what I recall.IMO

[panache]

o/t

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754085&IMG=58573

They caught a big one tonight. 60,000.+ bail. All charges are for failure to appear. Looking at that again, I wonder if someone got carried away with typing up the information.

They have also jailed several for driving w/o license. Does anyone in that town have a DL? JMO

LOL...Its the thing to do in Putnam County on a Friday Night. Get arrested.

[?noanswer]

LOL...Its the thing to do in Putnam County on a Friday Night. Get arrested.


You got that right! The last arrest posted was before 8:00. The count was already 16. I like the one explanation. "NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL DRIVE WHILE LIC SUSP 1ST OFF" How can they be driving when it is a nonmoving violation? JMO

[calamitygirl]

LOL...Its the thing to do in Putnam County on a Friday Night. Get arrested.

Thats really not funny, but, oh yes it was, lol

[CANDYKISSES]

I haven't listened to it yet,Mimi,but I will.I doubt it will change my opinion of Cobra,KP and AH,but I will listen to the audio interview.
I try to keep up with all aspects of the case.
If I'm wrong about any of these people I will owe them an apology,but have to admit that it seems as though they are putting on a show for the masses,and are in it for their own reasons that have little or nothing to do with finding Haleigh.Think how many times Cobra has said that he will solve the case,only to have zero results.Then we have KP with her abuse allegations,and yet Jr is still with the Cummings family.In my opinion they have brought nothing to the investigation of what happened to Haleigh.LE already knew everything they have brought to the table.
As for Cobra......I hope he will be okay.After all if TN can spook him in the woods,maybe he is worried about his safety.
O/T.....back to cooking.I'm having a cookout tommorow and trying to do food prep tonight so I apologize if my posts are hard to read,but I check in when I get breaks from cooking.IMO

It's all about thrill seeking adventures and getting their names out there IMO. None of these people have done anything to further the case or bringing Haleigh home IMO. :sad:

I think they get mentally psyched while out there crossing the line and claim it's all in the name of doing good, but I don't see that as much as I do their need to tempt fate and act out various thrill seeking adventures. JMO. :unsure:

[CANDYKISSES]

Yep....that is what I recall.IMO

I remember that too Cat. :wink:n JMO

[E-U-R]

Somewhere there is a paragraph Misty wrote entitled *About Me*. She talks of moving from Michigan down to Fla., and how she moved into her brother's home. Not the one that lives near Green St. Wherever it was, she didn't stay long, and then moved to Patulak. Maybe someone saved that info.

moo

well I saw her myspace the day it went public instead of private and *about me* is an automatic header on everyones it's a section and yes I remember that but I don't remember her giving an age... there was also a blurb that I am pretty sure she did not write herself (there are things pre made that you can add to your profile) and not verbatim but it said how she was older than her years and it took her a lot to get where she is how she didn't regret doing anything and she chalenges anyone to try and break her.... my take on the myspace being public was that she switched to the new version of myspace and that one you have to re decide to make it private and I'm guessing she didn't know that.... the paragraph about challenging anyone to break her gave me chills it was almost like a confession whether it was meant that way or not.... that was when she changed her name from misty to Haleighs step mom.... the whole thing was kind of chilling... I was on scared monkey site one day and people there claimed to have screen shots of her myspace (which i wish now that i did myself) but the ones that i saw posted were more focussed on the new pics of haleigh that she put everywhere and it was like no one even picked up on the paragraph that i found mind blowing... i can't understand why she would put that on there even if she was not talking about causing haleigh's disappearance it sure as hell sounded like it was specificly about that...
i'm sure it wasn't but still creepy

[E-U-R]

The cops already know about Greg. I would guess the cops would have to prove what Greg said about the drugs. I don't know if they could arrest him without some kind of proof. And by his arrest record, I would guess he knows something about the law.
Bragging about his weekend excursion, who knows, but he was talking to another guy.
I do think that the outside players did get involved in the beginning to help find Haleigh but instead found juicier subjects.
I do not believe Greg had anything to do with Haleigh.
jmo

I think it's pretty safe to say that he could not be arrested for what he said ... my point was if you live that lifestyle... cruising around in cars with drugs you usually do not want to draw attention to yourself more than need be... and as far as talking with a guy and bragging ... I didn't think he was braggin at all but obviously we see it differently

[E-U-R]

You got that right! The last arrest posted was before 8:00. The count was already 16. I like the one explanation. "NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL DRIVE WHILE LIC SUSP 1ST OFF" How can they be driving when it is a nonmoving violation? JMO

you can get nabbed for no license if the key is in the ignition and you are behind the wheel
A non-moving traffic violation is related to parking or defective equipment. This may include but not limited to

* Parking at a parking meter without paying for it.
* Parking in a prohibited space such as in front of a fire hydrant, a bus stop or a handicapped space without having a handicap permit.
* Parking longer than the maximum permitted time
* Parking in front of a driveway
* Parking facing the direction of the traffic.

[E-U-R]

joe overstreets new myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/380818970

joe overstreets old myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/438615018

joe overstreets cousin (possibly named brandon definitely overstreet)that also lives in tn ....
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HIS PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! this one in particular.... this guy is a definite gang member and judging by the pictures he is pretty hardcore..
here is one pic:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=65380013&albumID=1563136&imageID=47208120
PLEASE CHECK THIS GUY OUT WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS ALREADY:
http://www.myspace.com/tha_villes_illest_kixxx

comment left on 2/2/09 that sounds like a conversation about going to florida... did he go with Joe?
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=65380013&page=1&state=651!50!2!107621473!107529522

this is all for now i am still trying to figure out who else is related and where they are from... but I am finding that whole story about Cousin Joe stealing Ron's gun a little more believable and I wonder why this guy was planning a trip to Fl on 2/2/09

side note when a girl gets dumped her first pissed off instinct is to get some one to kick the guys ***... did misty call on the cousins to take care of Ron after the fight that lead to the 3 day thing and then couldn't cancel or it morphed into something else on it's own...
I had no clue how hard these rednecks thought they were... this is the other part of mc's family OMG

[BitterSweet]

joe overstreets new myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/380818970

joe overstreets old myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/438615018

joe overstreets cousin (possibly named brandon definitely overstreet)that also lives in tn ....
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HIS PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! this one in particular.... this guy is a definite gang member and judging by the pictures he is pretty hardcore..
here is one pic:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=65380013&albumID=1563136&imageID=47208120
PLEASE CHECK THIS GUY OUT WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS ALREADY:
http://www.myspace.com/tha_villes_illest_kixxx

comment left on 2/2/09 that sounds like a conversation about going to florida... did he go with Joe?
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=65380013&page=1&state=651!50!2!107621473!107529522

this is all for now i am still trying to figure out who else is related and where they are from... but I am finding that whole story about Cousin Joe stealing Ron's gun a little more believable and I wonder why this guy was planning a trip to Fl on 2/2/09

side note when a girl gets dumped her first pissed off instinct is to get some one to kick the guys ***... did misty call on the cousins to take care of Ron after the fight that lead to the 3 day thing and then couldn't cancel or it morphed into something else on it's own...
I had no clue how hard these rednecks thought they were... this is the other part of mc's family OMG

The myspace profile is shocking indeed. I do believe I have seen these before (previously posted). The profile comment has been discussed as well, I believe? Thank you for reposting these sites, great sleuthing E-U-C.!

In Haleighs search, if LE has not been investigating these pep. and their myspace (friends etc.) I would be shocked.
BitterSweet

[E-U-R]

oe overstreets new myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/380818970

joe overstreets old myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/438615018

joe overstreets cousin (last name definitely overstreet)that also lives in tn ....
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HIS PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! this one in particular.... this guy is a definite gang member and judging by the pictures he is pretty hardcore..
here is one pic:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=65380013&albumID=1563136&imageID=47208120
PLEASE CHECK THIS GUY OUT WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS ALREADY:
http://www.myspace.com/tha_villes_illest_kixxx

comment left on 2/2/09 that sounds like a conversation about going to florida... did he go with Joe?
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=65380013&page=1&state=651!50!2!107621473!107529522

this is all for now i am still trying to figure out who else is related and where they are from... but I am finding that whole story about Cousin Joe stealing Ron's gun a little more believable and I wonder why this guy was planning a trip to Fl on 2/2/09

side note when a girl gets dumped her first pissed off instinct is to get some one to kick the guys ***... did misty call on the cousins to take care of Ron after the fight that lead to the 3 day thing and then couldn't cancel or it morphed into something else on it's own...
I had no clue how hard these rednecks thought they were... this is the other part of mc's family OMG

here is misty's cousin named brandon overstreet age 18 lives in daytona fl... misty had pics of her and this dude on her myspace:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=269248876&albumId=618342

Brandon overstreet has a 21 year old brother named charlie in midland michigan:
http://www.myspace.com/292899562

[LILMANMAX]

Geezz Louise!!

These characters are coming out of the woodwork. OMG