Friday, May 15, 2009 Caylee Marie Anthony

[Dick Tracy]

Starting New Thread for May 15, 2009

May you rest in heaven with the Angels Caylee!

[Dick Tracy]

I've been up doing some research, regarding Casey and TL's text message of the 16th of July.

Here is what TL sent to her -

6:50 a.m. "Where is Caylee?"

6:53 a.m. "I don't know.. R U serious? When did you find out?"

6:58 a.m. "Y wouldn't you tell me of all people. I was UR boyfriend that cares about you and UR daughter- Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you lie to me thinking she was fine and with your nanny?"

7:02 a.m. "I don't know what to say... I just hope your daughter is OK and I'm going to do whatever i can to help your family and the cops."

7:04 - 7:19 a.m. "Who is this Zanny person? Where did you drop Caylee off last time you saw her?"
"Have you told and showed the police the apartment?"

7:23 a.m. "Yea no S*%& this is serious why would U say something sooner about this? To anyone?"

7:25 a.m. "Oh and why are you texting me and not calling?"

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Does anyone know or have Casey's side of this conversation? Can anyone locate it?

Eastside Joe - where are you? Can you help?


thanks

[AJandTam]

Good Morning DT.. Sorry, I have no idea where that information went. So much gets lost in the piles and piles of stuff..

I'm looking for something too. A link to that Albabrossi lady. I think that is how you spell it..

[cassidy]

Good morning DT...
IF the boyfriend knows to ask her if she told and showed the police the apartment then why was there not more on the boyfriend. It indicates either they had talked about where the Nanny lives or he was with her supposedly at some time when she allegedly dropped the baby off.:confused: Strange statement. Yea, I sure would like to see the text in it's entirety.:sneaky:
Could there be more than meets the eye on this boyfriend.

IIRC all this texting happened AFTER the details were released about Casey's lies. I really don't think the boyfriend was involved at all in what happened to Caylee. Although Cindy and George would like your way of thinking.

JMO

[BJames]

Good morning to all :smile:

I honestly think TonE was blind sided by this girl, up until that point he believed what she had told him...and why would he question it really?
She seemed happy to him, well put together...
He had met Caylee, been told Casey had a 'job' and was a student...she had decent clothes, drove a decent car and appeared to have enough money to spend some on beer and food for everyone.
She told him she had a 'nanny' to 'explain' how she could be without her daughter...and when push came to shove there was always the grandparents.
He had even been in their home...both parents were working...decent place.
And in the matter of a few hours he finds out that just about everything that she had told him...is a lie.
If I were TonE right now I might be wondering who to thank for being spared before I got in too deep....He has to notice that anyone who gets too close to the Anthony's gets burned, he should count his blessings....maybe he already is?

Just my opinion of course..

[cassidy]

It has been suggested that perhaps Casey had some help in this and she's being quiet to protect someone so I was thinking, Hmmmm.
Thanx for the heads up.
I just can't imagine anyone murdering their baby but it happens every day here. To actually look into your child's eyes and watch them suffer hurts my heart just thinking about it.:crying:

It hurts my heart too Dianna. :( It is beyond imagination and that's a good thing.

JMO

[Explorer]

Good morning to all :smile:

I honestly think TonE was blind sided by this girl, up until that point he believed what she had told him...and why would he question it really?
She seemed happy to him, well put together...
He had met Caylee, been told Casey had a 'job' and was a student...she had decent clothes, drove a decent car and appeared to have enough money to spend some on beer and food for everyone.
She told him she had a 'nanny' to 'explain' how she could be without her daughter...and when push came to shove there was always the grandparents.
He had even been in their home...both parents were working...decent place.
And in the matter of a few hours he finds out that just about everything that she had told him...is a lie.
If I were TonE right now I might be wondering who to thank for being spared before I got in too deep....He has to notice that anyone who gets too close to the Anthony's gets burned, he should count his blessings....maybe he already is?

Just my opinion of course..

Its a good thing he got out with the shirt on his back. The dangers of meeting people on the internet.

[sorjam]

I think that every time Cindy and George appear on any news station they are only making it worse for the defense.
CA would love it if everyone in America could be convinced to be blind, deaf and dumb where her daughter is concerned.
I have never seen anything so disrespectful to a beautiful little girl they are supposed to have loved. It appears Caylee is just another one of Casey's mistakes now to them...and Cindy fears she might actually have to PAY for her crime this time and be held accountable for something. Ridiculous. It's crystal clear for one to see how Casey came to believe she could get away with murder without suffering any consequences.
Unconditional love "my foot"! MOO:sneaky:

[Explorer]

I was thinking about the Larry King interveiw when cindy said she couldnt turn her back on casey she was flesh and blood. Well what about Caylee? What was she?

[Explorer]

I would love to be a fly on the wall at LE when they get a shipment of Caylee Bears.

[sorjam]

I was thinking about the Larry King interveiw when cindy said she couldnt turn her back on casey she was flesh and blood. Well what about Caylee? What was she?

You are right Explorer! Jeffry Dahmer was flesh and blood also...but his Dad didn't go on a LIE, LIE, LIE mission to try and get him off. MOO

[cassidy]

I would love to be a fly on the wall at LE when they get a shipment of Caylee Bears.

They won't get a shipment. The Anthony's will release the bears 1 at a time as the "donations" for them come in. It wouldn't suprise me if George or Cindy or both would want to present the first ones to the victims. Photo shoot and all, ya know?

JMO

[cassidy]

I was thinking about the Larry King interveiw when cindy said she couldnt turn her back on casey she was flesh and blood. Well what about Caylee? What was she?

She was once removed. Not as close as full-blooded. Sad huh?

JMO

[desmom]

Good morning DT...
IF the boyfriend knows to ask her if she told and showed the police the apartment then why was there not more on the boyfriend. It indicates either they had talked about where the Nanny lives or he was with her supposedly at some time when she allegedly dropped the baby off.:confused: Strange statement. Yea, I sure would like to see the text in it's entirety.:sneaky:
Could there be more than meets the eye on this boyfriend.

Good Morning!

LE was at Tone's apartment earlier that morning. IIRC, they searched his apartment and spoke with Tone and his roommates.

Lee Anthony also went to Tone's apartment to gather Casey's clothing and stuff sometime around midnight and returned to the Anthony home around 2:30 a.m.

IMO, this is where Tone learned about Caylee's disappearance, the Nanny and her apartment.

[Explorer]

Intersesting Cindys choice of words. "Flesh and Blood"

[cassidy]

Intersesting Cindys choice of words. "Flesh and Blood"

Yeah it is.

[Explorer]

They won't get a shipment. The Anthony's will release the bears 1 at a time as the "donations" for them come in. It wouldn't suprise me if George or Cindy or both would want to present the first ones to the victims. Photo shoot and all, ya know?

JMO

I hope the a's dont get any donors. I hope this little scheme flops big.

[Explorer]

Its like the hand family has its thumb on our nose and they are saying SUCKERS!

[desmom]

I've been up doing some research, regarding Casey and TL's text message of the 16th of July.

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Does anyone know or have Casey's side of this conversation? Can anyone locate it?

Eastside Joe - where are you? Can you help?


thanks

I do not believe we have seen the other side of this conversation. IIRC, Casey left her cell phone behind at Tone's apartment and LE picked it up.

These text messages would have to be done with a different phone. Maybe Cindy's, George's or Lee's. :shrug:

[sorjam]

This family has no shame. They KNOW exactly what happened to Caylee and have decided to make the most of this as possible financially. It is really sick in my book. IMOO

[Explorer]

I just think its funny when Larry king showed the a's the email responses that he recieved from them being on the show. It looked like a telephone book.

[Explorer]

ITA sorjam...
Once they get the Ants up there on the stand it's inevitable that Cindy will screw up.
No one remembers lie after lie.
They will screw themselves and their daughter because the prosecutors will go back and show all these clips from all the talk shows and question them as to the difference in their answers to the same questions.
It will ruin their credibility. The same thing happened when they were being deposed. Cindy got very angry when the attorneys began to show the clips. She will do the same thing up on the stand. She's very hostile.
Cindy has been covering up for her kids for years thinking thats what a mother does. Casey does not have a clue what responsibility is.
Goes to show you what a lousy mother she was. A jealous mother of her own daughter Caylee, if you think about it. One selfish, selfish young woman.
It is all about Casey and Casey only. Blame that on her dear mother.:unsure:
JMO

You make an interesting point when you say shes been covering because she thinks thats what a mother does.

[AMS]

I just think its funny when Larry king showed the a's the email responses that he recieved from them being on the show. It looked like a telephone book.

That was funny. And he said he was going to give them to the A's. Can you imagine Cindy's response when Larry asked her if she wanted to read the comments?

#$%^**!@#&# Maggots
@#$^^%% Parasites
#%((*_)*@#^& Bloggers

imo

[Explorer]

That was funny. And he said he was going to give them to the A's. Can you imagine Cindy's response when Larry asked her if she wanted to read the comments?

#$%^**!@#&# Maggots
@#$^^%% Parasites
#%((*_)*@#^& Bloggers

imo

She probably chucked them right in the recycle bin on her way out:biggrin:

[AJandTam]

This family has no shame. They KNOW exactly what happened to Caylee and have decided to make the most of this as possible financially. It is really sick in my book. IMOO

Oh my. I"m still waiting for more information on Computer searches concerning Missing Children, prior to this event even occurring..

[AMS]

TGIF fellow posters. A rainy Friday in WI.

Does anyone know if the A's are back in Orlando or if they stayed in LA?

imo

[ellegna]

I just think its funny when Larry king showed the a's the email responses that he recieved from them being on the show. It looked like a telephone book.

I thought Larry's timing was perfect showing George and Cindy the bloggers' comments at the beginning of the show. Almost a forewarning that the public doesn't believe you so be careful what you say.

It also boggles my mind the A's refuse to visit Casey for fear the recorded visit will be dissected YET they have no qualms appearing on show after show knowing full well it will be reported and us bad bloggers will scrutinize every word. :rolleyes:
There is a good reason the A's are not visiting Casey. The media reporting, Sunshine Laws and critical bloggers has nothing to do with it. IMO Cindy knows who killed Caylee and doesn't want to face her murderer.

[desmom]

That was funny. And he said he was going to give them to the A's. Can you imagine Cindy's response when Larry asked her if she wanted to read the comments?

#$%^**!@#&# Maggots
@#$^^%% Parasites
#%((*_)*@#^& Bloggers

imo

I bet Cindy had already read a good portion of the comments on LKL's site. I know, I know Cindy has said several times during interviews she does not read message boards/bloggers's pages, but she continues to bring up the bloggers and things they have said. Now how would she know what the bloggers are saying if she is not reading?

It would take a lot of restraint for one not to read what they were saying. IMO, Cindy does not have that much restraint. :tonguewag:

[Scampi]

TGIF fellow posters. A rainy Friday in WI.

Does anyone know if the A's are back in Orlando or if they stayed in LA?

imo

Morning AMS!! Good question, I must admit it has crossed my mind that perhaps the trip to California may have been two fold. The LKL appearance and perhaps an interview with a DPQ attorney, such as the infamous Mark Geragos. This case would be right up his smoke and mirror alley, imo.

[Scampi]

I bet Cindy had already read a good portion of the comments on LKL's site. I know, I know Cindy has said several times during interviews she does not read message boards/bloggers's pages, but she continues to bring up the bloggers and things they have said. Now how would she know what the bloggers are saying if she is not reading?

It would take a lot of restraint for one not to read what they were saying. IMO, Cindy does not have that much restraint. :tonguewag:

Hiya Des. Of course she reads, and takes copious notes on how to dream up an explanation and/or excuse for every single question we have about her murderous offspring.

[Pruddennce]

thought for the day:

hasnt the thought crossed their minds, or someone else who has half a brain, that any attempt at marketing a teddy bear is obscene?

they consider this a tribute to their MURDERED granddaughter? when their own daughter had an image on her web page of a teddy bear hanging in a noose......and is going to be tried for MURDER ONE of her own child, with the possibility of being convicted and sentenced to death?

these people really dont 'get it'.....that image just might be displayed on a huge screen in the courtroom.......<-----one can only hope......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[AMS]

Morning AMS!! Good question, I must admit it has crossed my mind that perhaps the trip to California may have been two fold. The LKL appearance and perhaps an interview with a DPQ attorney, such as the infamous Mark Geragos. This case would be right up his smoke and mirror alley, imo.

Argh! I did not think of a DPQ visit! That's all we need is Geragos :w00t: I was thinking more along the lines of shopping their story around Hollywood :wink:

imo

[Daffodil]

Argh! I did not think of a DPQ visit! That's all we need is Geragos :w00t: I was thinking more along the lines of shopping their story around Hollywood :wink:

imo

I don't think they went to interview a DPQ attorney, unless it was Mark Geragos who offered to meet with them if they were in CA.

I don't think JB would allow them to get in his business.

[Daffodil]

O/T:

I just heard on GMA that it is now 1100 dealerships(not sure I heard that right, I know yesterday it was 789) being closed by Chyrsler. Wow, imagine all the people who are going to lose their jobs from those who work at the dealerships, suppliers, advertising vehicles.

Boy, our world is changing. We need to pay attention and speak out.

Sorry for OT but it is really scary what is happening.

[Scampi]

Argh! I did not think of a DPQ visit! That's all we need is Geragos :w00t: I was thinking more along the lines of shopping their story around Hollywood :wink:

imo

Whoops, you're right forgot about the almighty dollar angle, could have been a three pronged trip. :thumbup:

[desmom]

I thought Larry's timing was perfect showing George and Cindy the bloggers' comments at the beginning of the show. Almost a forewarning that the public doesn't believe you so be careful what you say.

It also boggles my mind the A's refuse to visit Casey for fear the recorded visit will be dissected YET they have no qualms appearing on show after show knowing full well it will be reported and us bad bloggers will scrutinize every word. :rolleyes:
There is a good reason the A's are not visiting Casey. The media reporting, Sunshine Laws and critical bloggers has nothing to do with it. IMO Cindy knows who killed Caylee and doesn't want to face her murderer.

Good Morning Ellegna!
I do not think the A's refuse to visit Casey, but Casey refuses to see her parents...especially Cindy. We have heard about a jealousy issue between Cindy and Casey from several friend's interviews, in Casey's handwritten statement to LE she said she went to one of the few places she felt "at home" - her boyfriend's apartment (dig at Cindy?), JB said Casey did not want a public memorial for Caylee - but Cindy did it any way (dig at Casey?).

This has been bouncing around in my head for some time now... Cindy has to know the public's reaction to their interviews, public statements etc. Is it possible Cindy is doing these interviews as a means of showing Casey she still has the upper hand even though Casey is behind bars? jmo

[Scampi]

O/T:

I just heard on GMA that it is now 1100 dealerships(not sure I heard that right, I know yesterday it was 789) being closed by Chyrsler. Wow, imagine all the people who are going to lose their jobs from those who work at the dealerships, suppliers, advertising vehicles.

Boy, our world is changing. We need to pay attention and speak out.

Sorry for OT but it is really scary what is happening.

It truly is Daffodil, some of these dealerships have been owned by the same family for generations and their employees are like family. Very sad to see them have to close.

[desmom]

thought for the day:

hasnt the thought crossed their minds, or someone else who has half a brain, that any attempt at marketing a teddy bear is obscene?

they consider this a tribute to their MURDERED granddaughter? when their own daughter had an image on her web page of a teddy bear hanging in a noose......and is going to be tried for MURDER ONE of her own child, with the possibility of being convicted and sentenced to death?

these people really dont 'get it'.....that image just might be displayed on a huge screen in the courtroom.......<-----one can only hope......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Good Morning Pru!

Hmm, I forgot about the teddy bear noose image on Casey's web page. Yikes! It definitely puts a twist on the Caylee Bear. :scared:

ETA ~ That gives me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. WTH are these people thinking!!!!! :cursing:

[Pruddennce]

I thought Larry's timing was perfect showing George and Cindy the bloggers' comments at the beginning of the show. Almost a forewarning that the public doesn't believe you so be careful what you say.

It also boggles my mind the A's refuse to visit Casey for fear the recorded visit will be dissected YET they have no qualms appearing on show after show knowing full well it will be reported and us bad bloggers will scrutinize every word. :rolleyes:
There is a good reason the A's are not visiting Casey. The media reporting, Sunshine Laws and critical bloggers has nothing to do with it. IMO Cindy knows who killed Caylee and doesn't want to face her murderer.

and the murderer has taken under advisement the danger involved with her seeing them.....she already had a meltdown....cant risk another one.

I esp enjoyed LK stating to Cindy, ONE NITE OUT DANCING while her child was supposedly kidnapped, is one too many....not only that, that friday nite is just the tip of the iceberg.....ALL OF HER ACTIVITIES, including her texting, phone calls, lunches, dinners, shopping, tattoo appointment, all of those activities will most assuredly be enumerated, one by one for the jurors.

punctuated with the fact there is no evidence of her 'investigating the event on her own', or doing anything to find her child...no evidence exists that she had a nanny.....and glaringly apparent: DID NOT REPORT HER MISSING: first on her list after being arrested was to 'talk to Tony', 'he's my boyfriend'......

that is the roadmap of CE.....she was indifferent and continued on with her activities.

smoke and mirrors cannot erase those facts despite her family's efforts appearing on talk shows to talk about her 'working at Fusion' <-as if grinding away in boots and a mini dress with another lady a few days later is a perfectly acceptable activity because she was 'working'.....GMAB.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Tornado]

I've been up doing some research, regarding Casey and TL's text message of the 16th of July.

Here is what TL sent to her -

6:50 a.m. "Where is Caylee?"

6:53 a.m. "I don't know.. R U serious? When did you find out?"

6:58 a.m. "Y wouldn't you tell me of all people. I was UR boyfriend that cares about you and UR daughter- Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you lie to me thinking she was fine and with your nanny?"

7:02 a.m. "I don't know what to say... I just hope your daughter is OK and I'm going to do whatever i can to help your family and the cops."

7:04 - 7:19 a.m. "Who is this Zanny person? Where did you drop Caylee off last time you saw her?"
"Have you told and showed the police the apartment?"7:23 a.m. "Yea no S*%& this is serious why would U say something sooner about this? To anyone?"

7:25 a.m. "Oh and why are you texting me and not calling?"

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Does anyone know or have Casey's side of this conversation? Can anyone locate it?

Eastside Joe - where are you? Can you help?


thanks


Good morning and bolding mine- what the heck does that statment mean???

[Pruddennce]

Good Morning Pru!

Hmm, I forgot about the teddy bear noose image on Casey's web page. Yikes! It definitely puts a twist on the Caylee Bear. :scared:

ETA ~ That gives me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. WTH are these people thinking!!!!! :cursing:


gm des....sheesh, you got that right....more than a twist, its disgusting! before you know it, they will be handing out free coupons for pizza with the teddy....

BARF BARF

they are deranged......


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[msgatorslayer]

I bet Cindy had already read a good portion of the comments on LKL's site. I know, I know Cindy has said several times during interviews she does not read message boards/bloggers's pages, but she continues to bring up the bloggers and things they have said. Now how would she know what the bloggers are saying if she is not reading?

It would take a lot of restraint for one not to read what they were saying. IMO, Cindy does not have that much restraint. :tonguewag:

Those websleuths print outs were planted in her trash by an evil blogger.:thumbsup:

ITA with ya Des. Cindy can't restrain herself from reading what other people say. I bet she does a lot of reading.

Happy Friday and G'morning to all. I'm typing away on my brand new puter. Mr. Gator put it together. First one he's ever done. And it works. It really, really, works, lmao.

[desmom]

Interesting reading!

Caylee Anthony Foundation: What The Anthony’s Don’t Want You To Know
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/caylee-anthony-foundation-what-the-anthonys-dont-want-you-to-know/

It also includes a link to the possible supplier of the Caylee Bears and a post left on LKL's blogs from someone who reportedly knows the Anthony's.

jmo

[kOOkie1]

Good Morning to All-
Thinking about the LK interview..I just love the way when pressed cindy says she asked Casey if she killed Caylee and Casey said "no"..umm hello Casey had the same answer years ago when she was asked if she was pregnant..:sneaky:

[*MoonRider*]

Good Morning Pru!

Hmm, I forgot about the teddy bear noose image on Casey's web page. Yikes! It definitely puts a twist on the Caylee Bear. :scared:

ETA ~ That gives me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. WTH are these people thinking!!!!! :cursing:

GM, lets not forget the cremains bear. yikes Once again, it shows poor taste by the Anthony's. moo

[desmom]

Good Morning to All-
Thinking about the LK interview..I just love the way when pressed cindy says she asked Casey if she killed Caylee and Casey said "no"..umm hello Casey had the same answer years ago when she was asked if she was pregnant..:sneaky:

Well, you know....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388202,00.html

"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth," Cindy Anthony said. "We've gotten to the bottom of the truth when I talk to her and spend time with her."

:rolleyes:

[msgatorslayer]

Well, you know....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388202,00.html

"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth," Cindy Anthony said. "We've gotten to the bottom of the truth when I talk to her and spend time with her."

:rolleyes:

More mis-speaking on Cindy's part. What she really meant, IMO, is that she finds out the truth by sneaking around and asking Casey's friends for the 'truth'.

[desmom]

GM, lets not forget the cremains bear. yikes Once again, it shows poor taste by the Anthony's. moo


Too bad LK did not ask, "You are going to be giving out teddy bears wearing Caylee tees to lst responders. Do you not find it a little morbid since Casey had this http://images.ibsys.com/2008/0926/17565188_432X480.jpg on her web page?

[bchand]

Those websleuths print outs were planted in her trash by an evil blogger.:thumbsup:

ITA with ya Des. Cindy can't restrain herself from reading what other people say. I bet she does a lot of reading.

Happy Friday and G'morning to all. I'm typing away on my brand new puter. Mr. Gator put it together. First one he's ever done. And it works. It really, really, works, lmao.


I'm sure she reads all the comments too. She'd read 1,000 pages and find one comment that's incorrect and harp on that one point.

Congrats on your new computer. I ordered a new laptop too but it won't be here for 3 more weeks. :mad:

[msgatorslayer]

Good Morning to All-
Thinking about the LK interview..I just love the way when pressed cindy says she asked Casey if she killed Caylee and Casey said "no"..umm hello Casey had the same answer years ago when she was asked if she was pregnant..:sneaky:

My favorite was that she thinks Casey was lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. :rolleyes:

There you have it, folks, one of the many reasons that Casey is "Mother of the Year".

[desmom]

My favorite was that she thinks Casey was lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. :rolleyes:

There you have it, folks, one of the many reasons that Casey is "Mother of the Year".

Yep more Cindy Sugar Coating!

I guess she racked up Cindy's credit card debt so she would look nice when she was spending all that time with Caylee AND got a new tattoo, a manicure and used Amy's checking account to purchase new clothing and food so she had nourishment and looked nice while looking for Caylee.

jmo

[AMS]

Interesting reading!

Caylee Anthony Foundation: What The Anthony’s Don’t Want You To Know
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/caylee-anthony-foundation-what-the-anthonys-dont-want-you-to-know/

It also includes a link to the possible supplier of the Caylee Bears and a post left on LKL's blogs from someone who reportedly knows the Anthony's.

jmo


Wow! Thanks des. George is getting $40,000 to be spokesperson for KFN? Oh fgs. They make me ill.

imo

[*MoonRider*]

My favorite was that she thinks Casey was lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. :rolleyes:

There you have it, folks, one of the many reasons that Casey is "Mother of the Year".

Here's another great Cindyism.
KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

[JHP]

Too bad LK did not ask, "You are going to be giving out teddy bears wearing Caylee tees to lst responders. Do you not find it a little morbid since Casey had this http://images.ibsys.com/2008/0926/17565188_432X480.jpg on her web page?

What a good point. Not to mention that the Anthony family threw away a large bag or 2 of stuffed animals people had (supposedly) sent to Caylee after she went missing.

This familys behavior goes so far beyond we are supporting our daughter, Cindy @ Co. are scared to death the real truth will come out. I hope we find out what that is someday.

[summer4meplz]

I just think its funny when Larry king showed the a's the email responses that he recieved from them being on the show. It looked like a telephone book.


there's their book right there......just answer the blog questions....

[jammies]

You are right Explorer! Jeffry Dahmer was flesh and blood also...but his Dad didn't go on a LIE, LIE, LIE mission to try and get him off. MOO


I hear ya, sor. Mr Dahmer's interviews break my heart. He knew his son turned into a monster yet he still loved him. You can feel his pain and it cuts straight to the bone.

[Daffodil]

there's their book right there......just answer the blog questions....



Now, that would be awesome!

[kOOkie1]

Here's another great Cindyism.
KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

LOL that was funny-I guess lying can get you all tongue tied!erggh

[StickyBeak]

Morning Everyone,

My fav was when LK asked GA what will they do in the foundation, GA said we will be counseling others of Missing Children. Larry asked if they will have psycologist? No, guess GA now qualifies after supposed attempted suicide. Wonder if Milstead has counseling groups (like group home for teen age girls), lined up. All too scary. I think Dominic Casey lives in CA, diden't he set up the gator email for Cindy? Maybe theres a secret rendezous before heading back to FL. JMO

[~jomomma~]

Here's another great Cindyism.
KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.


gotta love it! :thumbsup:

[Pam1569]

Interesting reading!

Caylee Anthony Foundation: What The Anthony’s Don’t Want You To Know
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/caylee-anthony-foundation-what-the-anthonys-dont-want-you-to-know/

It also includes a link to the possible supplier of the Caylee Bears and a post left on LKL's blogs from someone who reportedly knows the Anthony's.

jmo

GM des, The person in question on writing that letter might be Holly Gayne. jmo

This is the original is the pdf for the foundation 10/22/2008
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/36556563.pdf

This is the amended pdf for the foundation 3/6/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/44916802.pdf Holly is listed here

This is the annual pdf form for the foundation 4/29/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/53757431.pdf but Holly is not listed here for being a director even though Brenda Black is.

[Tornado]

Here's another great Cindyism.
KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

Soooo, they have NO evidence that proves she didn't do it, but SOME of the evidence doesn't prove she did do it. Holy smokes-

[CelticDawn]

I resemble being called a #%((*_)*@#^& Blogger:angry:

Morning all:seeya:

Happy almost Victoria Day long weekend!

Any derogatory comments about any of us by cindy should be considered a COMPLIMENT!

After all, you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas....and if a FLEA DESPISES AN EXTERMINATOR then I think it's a good thing.



.....and GOOD MORNING all!!

[jammies]

GM des, The person in question on writing that letter might be Holly Gayne. jmo

This is the original is the pdf for the foundation 10/22/2008
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/36556563.pdf

This is the amended pdf for the foundation 3/6/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/44916802.pdf Holly is listed here

This is the annual pdf form for the foundation 4/29/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/53757431.pdf but Holly is not listed here for being a director even though Brenda Black is.


Who was with Cindy when she and GA went to Blanchard Park?

[*MoonRider*]

Soooo, they have NO evidence that proves she didn't do it, but SOME of the evidence doesn't prove she did do it. Holy smokes-

"If anyone thinks this is a slam-dunk case, they are far from mistaken." Jose :thumbsup:

[kOOkie1]

I resemble being called a #%((*_)*@#^& Blogger:angry:

Morning all:seeya:

Happy almost Victoria Day long weekend!

I do too Lizziegirl!!...guess us "bloggers" dont know how to love unconditionally:glare:

[Tornado]

"If anyone thinks this is a slam-dunk case, they are far from mistaken." Jose :thumbsup:

Insanity at its finest. :scared:

[Lavinia]

Man, a bittersweet morning this morning. I went to my son's school this morning for a date with him at a "Muffins for Moms" event and a little girl sat next to me, about 5ish. Her name was Caylee. I just thought of the little things that mean so much that she will be missing and her "mother" so stupidly threw away. :crying: Casey squandered the closest thing we have to heaven on earth.

[CelticDawn]

Man, a bittersweet morning this morning. I went to my son's school this morning for a date with him at a "Muffins for Moms" event and a little girl sat next to me, about 5ish. Her name was Caylee. I just thought of the little things that mean so much that she will be missing and her "mother" so stupidly threw away. :crying: Casey squandered the closest thing we have to heaven on earth.

You are so right Lavinia! :rose:

[desmom]

GM des, The person in question on writing that letter might be Holly Gayne. jmo

This is the original is the pdf for the foundation 10/22/2008
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/36556563.pdf

This is the amended pdf for the foundation 3/6/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/44916802.pdf Holly is listed here

This is the annual pdf form for the foundation 4/29/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/53757431.pdf but Holly is not listed here for being a director even though Brenda Black is.

Thanks for the info.

I found the post on LKL's board http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/ about 1/2 down the page. Posted on May 13th, 2009 8:29 pm ET

[AMS]

GM des, The person in question on writing that letter might be Holly Gayne. jmo

This is the original is the pdf for the foundation 10/22/2008
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/36556563.pdf

This is the amended pdf for the foundation 3/6/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/44916802.pdf Holly is listed here

This is the annual pdf form for the foundation 4/29/2009
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/53757431.pdf but Holly is not listed here for being a director even though Brenda Black is.


Good sleuthing Pam. Was Holly the woman who was on NG every night way back and also said that Casey was a good mother because she breast fed Caylee?

imo

[Lavinia]

Who was with Cindy when she and GA went to Blanchard Park?

Rick Savage (is that his name? The guy Cindy was "petting".) The lady who is quite religious, Wanda? Wasn't that the day that Cindy pulled the sign or something off of Murt's RV when he and Lois were there?

[cassidy]

Wow! Thanks des. George is getting $40,000 to be spokesperson for KFN? Oh fgs. They make me ill.

imo

Someone ought to tell them that he is way overpaid. He just isn't worth that much and isn't a good spokesperson at all. :)

JMO

[AMS]

Man, a bittersweet morning this morning. I went to my son's school this morning for a date with him at a "Muffins for Moms" event and a little girl sat next to me, about 5ish. Her name was Caylee. I just thought of the little things that mean so much that she will be missing and her "mother" so stupidly threw away. :crying: Casey squandered the closest thing we have to heaven on earth.

:wub: to you for being a good mom. I hope your date was fun. Every time a see a little girl that resembles Caylee, I get so angry at the OC and then I just get sad.

imo

[Lavinia]

Someone ought to tell them that he is way overpaid. He just isn't worth that much and isn't a good spokesperson at all. :)

JMO

Maybe he can be a spokesperson for Tropic Tans and Cindy can open a chili diner?

[Pam1569]

Who was with Cindy when she and GA went to Blanchard Park?

GM jammies, I am trying to locate the video of JBP right now, but I don't think it is told who the woman is. I will go look. brb

[Tornado]

Wow! Thanks des. George is getting $40,000 to be spokesperson for KFN? Oh fgs. They make me ill.

imo

You would think that after all the scrutiny that KFN has been thru, that they would seriously think twice before associating themselves with the Anthonys. Does KFN really need anymore "questionable" attention?

[Pam1569]

Good sleuthing Pam. Was Holly the woman who was on NG every night way back and also said that Casey was a good mother because she breast fed Caylee?

imo

GM AMS, Yes IIRC she was on NG in the beginning. She stated on NG that she considered herself to be a great mom and OC was a good mom.

[StickyBeak]

Rick Savage (is that his name? The guy Cindy was "petting".) The lady who is quite religious, Wanda? Wasn't that the day that Cindy pulled the sign or something off of Murt's RV when he and Lois were there?

I remember that women, is she in this video of LP at prayer service

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/856243

[Peter]

"If anyone thinks this is a slam-dunk case, they are far from mistaken." Jose :thumbsup:


WTH does that mean? Far from mistaken? So.....it is a slam dunk case?
If I have more coffee will I understand Jose?

Good morning all.

I remember the day at Blanchard park.George tore the sign off murts van because he gave it to Dakota, and Lois was there supporting looking for a dead Caylee. Make sense now?

[Pam1569]

jammies

Found a video from wftv at JBP

http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html

Still can't locate the article.

[Peter]

Wow! Thanks des. George is getting $40,000 to be spokesperson for KFN? Oh fgs. They make me ill.

imo


WOW! is right. It only took the life of Caylee for GA to get off his dead a** and get a job.

[Pruddennce]

"If anyone thinks this is a slam-dunk case, they are far from mistaken." Jose :thumbsup:

.......and should report anything they know about this crime WITHOUT HASTE! <---Casey-ism

:laugh:

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[kOOkie1]

Awwwww, do you need a teddy bear?

haha...ummm naaa I'm good..thx:rolleyes:

[cassidy]

You would think that after all the scrutiny that KFN has been thru, that they would seriously think twice before associating themselves with the Anthonys. Does KFN really need anymore "questionable" attention?


And vice versa.

[Lavinia]

:wub: to you for being a good mom. I hope your date was fun. Every time a see a little girl that resembles Caylee, I get so angry at the OC and then I just get sad.

imo

Good morning AMS, and all!

It was a wonderful time. I love it that he's almost 11 and is still sooo proud of his Mom. :wub: So courtly, too.

I feel the same as you with the little girls. I wasn't expecting to think of this case when I went there but the little girl's name of course made it impossible not to do so. Then I looked at all the little girls and remembered the time my daughter was so little and how fun and fulfilling it SO was and is. I just can't wrap my head around this.

From the first days of my pregnancies 30+ years ago, the biggest fear in my life has been losing one of my children. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think how lucky I am so far. Not a day. I suppose it out of pure selfishness that I am so fearful because I know I may very well not survive it if it happens. I had one child for almost 13 years before I had another and I knew that if something befell him I wouldn't make it. Once I had others, I knew I would HAVE to make it, for them, but I would never be "all right" again. Let ANYTHING happen to me, but I beg, don't let me lose one of my children!

[summer4meplz]

WTH does that mean? Far from mistaken? So.....it is a slam dunk case?
If I have more coffee will I understand Jose?

Good morning all.

I remember the day at Blanchard park.George tore the sign off murts van because he gave it to Dakota, and Lois was there supporting looking for a dead Caylee. Make sense now?


bolded by me.....maybe if it is spiked with some kind of hallucinatory drug...:w00t:

[Dells]

I've been up doing some research, regarding Casey and TL's text message of the 16th of July.

Here is what TL sent to her -

6:50 a.m. "Where is Caylee?"

6:53 a.m. "I don't know.. R U serious? When did you find out?"

6:58 a.m. "Y wouldn't you tell me of all people. I was UR boyfriend that cares about you and UR daughter- Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you lie to me thinking she was fine and with your nanny?"

7:02 a.m. "I don't know what to say... I just hope your daughter is OK and I'm going to do whatever i can to help your family and the cops."

7:04 - 7:19 a.m. "Who is this Zanny person? Where did you drop Caylee off last time you saw her?"
"Have you told and showed the police the apartment?"

7:23 a.m. "Yea no S*%& this is serious why would U say something sooner about this? To anyone?"

7:25 a.m. "Oh and why are you texting me and not calling?"

-----------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone know or have Casey's side of this conversation? Can anyone locate it?

Eastside Joe - where are you? Can you help?


thanks

Good morning, Dick Tracy. :seeya:

I don't think we ever had Casey's side of the conversation because I think all of her text messages were lost when her cell phone provider canceled her service when they realized that she paid for her bill w/one of Amy's stolen checks. I just remember reading this a long time ago, and I don't have a link to back this up. Hopefully someone will be able to provide more insight on this. It sure would be nice to see how Casey responded to TL and to have her side of the conversation. I think it would be very telling.

[Lavinia]

WTH does that mean? Far from mistaken? So.....it is a slam dunk case?
If I have more coffee will I understand Jose?

Good morning all.

I remember the day at Blanchard park.George tore the sign off murts van because he gave it to Dakota, and Lois was there supporting looking for a dead Caylee. Make sense now?

Where ya' been Peter? :wub: I remember those days well. Those were the WILD days, huh?

[Pruddennce]

You would think that after all the scrutiny that KFN has been thru, that they would seriously think twice before associating themselves with the Anthonys. Does KFN really need anymore "questionable" attention?

the milsteads are pros....the anthonys are amateurs.....the milsteads most assuredly have things in place that separate them legally from them, so if the A's go down, thy wont be on that ship.....they have their own more than suspect dealings that one can only hope will sink their ship as well.....

sheesh, they are professional defendants.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Lavinia]

bolded by me.....maybe if it is spiked with some kind of hallucinatory drug...:w00t:

Pass. Bad trip, indeed. :blink:

[Lavinia]

I remember that women, is she in this video of LP at prayer service

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/856243

Yeah, SB, that's who I was thinking of! (I didn't realize Murt still has these up!) Thanks!

[Dells]

Good morning to all :smile:

I honestly think TonE was blind sided by this girl, up until that point he believed what she had told him...and why would he question it really?
She seemed happy to him, well put together...
He had met Caylee, been told Casey had a 'job' and was a student...she had decent clothes, drove a decent car and appeared to have enough money to spend some on beer and food for everyone.
She told him she had a 'nanny' to 'explain' how she could be without her daughter...and when push came to shove there was always the grandparents.
He had even been in their home...both parents were working...decent place.
And in the matter of a few hours he finds out that just about everything that she had told him...is a lie.
If I were TonE right now I might be wondering who to thank for being spared before I got in too deep....He has to notice that anyone who gets too close to the Anthony's gets burned, he should count his blessings....maybe he already is?

Just my opinion of course..

I totally agree w/your assessment. I think TonE was totally blindsided by her and believed everything that she told him up until the time that it was made public knowledge that Caylee was missing. I don't think he had anything to do w/her disappearance or murder and I am sure that everything of value that he knows was told to LE. Remember, he even went undercover to secretly tape a conversation w/Lee. I think TonE has fully cooperated w/the authorities.

I think also that his and Casey's relationship was very new. Didn't they only start dating the beginning of June? I feel so bad for him and he is probably so glad he didn't get even more involved w/Casey than he already was. He is probably thinking that he really dodged a bullet. However, I wouldn't blame him if he has trouble ever trusting another women ever again, after what Casey put him through.:sneaky:

[Daffodil]

Is Murt still around? Is he still going on field trips?

How do you get to his site?

[BlueTurtle]

Good morning DT...
IF the boyfriend knows to ask her if she told and showed the police the apartment then why was there not more on the boyfriend. It indicates either they had talked about where the Nanny lives or he was with her supposedly at some time when she allegedly dropped the baby off.:confused: Strange statement. Yea, I sure would like to see the text in it's entirety.:sneaky:
Could there be more than meets the eye on this boyfriend.

I don't read his response as if he had help drop off Caylee. I think he was shocked!!!

[desmom]

Good sleuthing Pam. Was Holly the woman who was on NG every night way back and also said that Casey was a good mother because she breast fed Caylee?

imo

So far I have found Holly on

7/29 Nancy Grace http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/29/ng.01.html

7/31 Nancy Grace http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/31/ng.01.html

8/05 Larry King http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/05/lkl.01.html

I am still looking for the breast feeding comment.

[Dells]

I think that every time Cindy and George appear on any news station they are only making it worse for the defense.
CA would love it if everyone in America could be convinced to be blind, deaf and dumb where her daughter is concerned.
I have never seen anything so disrespectful to a beautiful little girl they are supposed to have loved. It appears Caylee is just another one of Casey's mistakes now to them...and Cindy fears she might actually have to PAY for her crime this time and be held accountable for something. Ridiculous. It's crystal clear for one to see how Casey came to believe she could get away with murder without suffering any consequences.
Unconditional love "my foot"! MOO:sneaky:

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you! The TH's on the talk show circuit last night all basically said the same thing. Even the TH's that are always so pro defense were saying how much George and Cindy are hurting Casey's case. All the TH's were just basically shaking their heads in disgust whenever a clip of the George and Cindy LKL interview was being played.

I loved on Prime News y-day on HLN how Mark Eiglarsh referred to George and Cindy and blind and blinder.:laugh: He was so right. They just have no clue how much damage they are doing. I thought it was interesting also how one of the TH's on JVM's show (I think it was Wendy Murphy) said that George and Cindy are hurting a possible COV for this case by appearing on TV and giving these interviews. She was so spot on w/that assessment!

Also, Pam Bondi appeared on Prime News last night and I just love her. It is a personal treat for me whenever she is one of the TH's on these shows because you just know you are going to get honest and straight answers w/her. She is like one of the only voices of reason in this case. She said that she personally knows Brad Conway and that he is a good and ethical attorney (paraphrasing). I really respect her so I really took notice when she said this. I think BC has done a horrible job in taming the George and Cindy two headed monster, and if she thinks so highly of him, I wish she would talk to him and tell him what an IDIOT he is currently making of himself w/his representation of The Anthony's. If he can't tame them and get them to listen to him, then it is time for him to cut ties w/them just like Mark NeJame did. After all, it is his reputation on the line here. I know the publicity that this case is creating is enticing, but he has to remember that he is going to be an attorney long after this dog and pony show is over and that he needs to do what he can to try to salvage his career and reputation.

Personally, I don't think this case is worth it for any of the attorney's involved. Many of them are making fools of themselves and only hurting their credibility in the process.

[Tornado]

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you! The TH's on the talk show circuit last night all basically said the same thing. Even the TH's that are always so pro defense were saying how much George and Cindy are hurting Casey's case. All the TH's were just basically shaking their heads in disgust whenever a clip of the George and Cindy LKL interview was being played.

I loved on Prime News y-day on HLN how Mark Eiglarsh referred to George and Cindy and blind and blinder.:laugh: He was so right. They just have no clue how much damage they are doing. I thought it was interesting also how one of the TH's on JVM's show (I think it was Wendy Murphy) said that George and Cindy are hurting a possible COV for this case by appearing on TV and giving these interviews. She was so spot on w/that assessment!

Also, Pam Bondi appeared on Prime News last night and I just love her. It is a personal treat for me whenever she is one of the TH's on these shows because you just know you are going to get honest and straight answers w/her. She is like one of the only voices of reason in this case. She said that she personally knows Brad Conway and that he is a good and ethical attorney (paraphrasing). I really respect her so I really took notice when she said this. I think BC has done a horrible job in taming the George and Cindy two headed monster, and if she thinks so highly of him, I wish she would talk to him and tell him what an IDIOT he is currently making of himself w/his representation of The Anthony's. If he can't tame them and get them to listen to him, then it is time for him to cut ties w/them just like Mark NeJame did. After all, it is his reputation on the line here. I know the publicity that this case is creating is enticing, but he has to remember that he is going to be an attorney long after this dog and pony show is over and that he needs to do what he can to try to salvage his career and reputation.

Personally, I don't think this case is worth it for any of the attorney's involved. Many of them are making fools of themselves and only hurting their credibility in the process.

ITA- very well said. Do you think this is why it is taking so long for the defense to name a DP attorney for their team? I wonder if any attorney that far up on the food chain is going to want to risk their reputation by becoming involved with this case or this client.

[KatieLady]

ITA- very well said. Do you think this is why it is taking so long for the defense to name a DP attorney for their team? I wonder if any attorney that far up on the food chain is going to want to risk their reputation by becoming involved with this case or this client.

Isn't it surprising given how all the TH's continually say that a defendant, even a guilty one, deserves the best defense they can get? Guess when their reputation is on the line that goes out the window :rolleyes:

[Peter]

Good morning AMS, and all!

It was a wonderful time. I love it that he's almost 11 and is still sooo proud of his Mom. :wub: So courtly, too.

I feel the same as you with the little girls. I wasn't expecting to think of this case when I went there but the little girl's name of course made it impossible not to do so. Then I looked at all the little girls and remembered the time my daughter was so little and how fun and fulfilling it SO was and is. I just can't wrap my head around this.

From the first days of my pregnancies 30+ years ago, the biggest fear in my life has been losing one of my children. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think how lucky I am so far. Not a day. I suppose it out of pure selfishness that I am so fearful because I know I may very well not survive it if it happens. I had one child for almost 13 years before I had another and I knew that if something befell him I wouldn't make it. Once I had others, I knew I would HAVE to make it, for them, but I would never be "all right" again. Let ANYTHING happen to me, but I beg, don't let me lose one of my children!

Bolded mine. But...but ....but ...Lavinia you sound so young, you Cant get pregnant at 10. :wub:
Yep, good ol' days with Murt, I was going to meet the van full of partying ladies..LOL

[Dells]

I would love to be a fly on the wall at LE when they get a shipment of Caylee Bears.

Oh me too!:sneaky: It is just lost on George and Cindy that these organizations that they want to help probably don't even want their help. They have been bashing LE, the prosecution, and all the other authorities in the handling of their daughter's/granddaughter's case, and yet they want to help them w/other missing children cases? Seriously?!? LE is probably thinking thanks, but no thanks.:sneaky: And who can blame them? The Anthony's are such hypocrites. They won't be able to help anybody until they are able to help themselves. And personally, the only area that I think they will **ever** have any credibility in helping others, is helping other families cope when one of their family members murder one of their own.

[Peter]

Is Murt still around? Is he still going on field trips?

How do you get to his site?


http://www.ustream.tv/MURT

[LILMANMAX]

WTH does that mean? Far from mistaken? So.....it is a slam dunk case?
If I have more coffee will I understand Jose?

Good morning all.

I remember the day at Blanchard park.George tore the sign off murts van because he gave it to Dakota, and Lois was there supporting looking for a dead Caylee. Make sense now?


No amount of coffee will help with understanding JB.
Maybe a pitcher of Mudslides, but not coffee. :wink:

[Tornado]

Isn't it surprising given how all the TH's continually say that a defendant, even a guilty one, deserves the best defense they can get? Guess when their reputation is on the line that goes out the window :rolleyes:

I am just so interested in seeing who actually NEEDS to become involved with this case. Not knowing any death qualified attorneys personally, I would think that each and evereyone of them is watching this case very closely, trying to figure out how they would handle this. It is such a mess of lies and bogus stories that stepping up and trying to defend KC, to the best of their ability, is going to be very difficult for even for the seasoned elite.

[Dells]

She was once removed. Not as close as full-blooded. Sad huh?

JMO

So true! Apparently Cindy's **unconditional love** didn't apply to Caylee.:sneaky:

[frances1]

I hear ya, sor. Mr Dahmer's interviews break my heart. He knew his son turned into a monster yet he still loved him. You can feel his pain and it cuts straight to the bone.

I remember the same with Timothy McVeigh's family, and the Hackings. I have nothing but sorrow for these families. They faced the truth. The Anthonys do not have the depth to acknowledge the truth.

[Pam1569]

No amount of coffee will help with understanding JB.
Maybe a pitcher of Mudslides, but not coffee. :wink:

GM LIL, Mudslides would work for awhile and then comes the morning and then JB would still make no sense. :laugh:

[~jomomma~]

i haven't read all the posts here but the woman you guys are talking about, is this the woman who was with the drunk cowboy? can't remember his name. maybe that's not the same woman.


also, there was a woman who came forward after Caylee's remains were found, remember? i forget, was it some photo's or something she had?

i may be totally confused as to who you guys are talking about.

Wanda was the woman at the airport who said she saw Caylee.

there was a woman with drunk cowboy at JBP....

then there was 'the spy' who stood by the tree and i think that's who was with cindy when she and george came to BP and that's when she was 'petting' rob...LOL

in case anybody gets bored and wants some interesting reading....the day we thought maybe Caylee's remains were found in the dive by Lenny http://courttv-mb1.courttv.com/showthread.php?t=345254&page=9

[Pam1569]

I am just so interested in seeing who actually NEEDS to become involved with this case. Not knowing any death qualified attorneys personally, I would think that each and evereyone of them is watching this case very closely, trying to figure out how they would handle this. It is such a mess of lies and bogus stories that stepping up and trying to defend KC, to the best of their ability, is going to be very difficult for even for the seasoned elite.

Tornado, It is just mind boggling to see which DPQ attorney does take this case, because of all the downsides to defending this client would do to their reputation.

I was looking at old stories from Pipitone (clickorlando) and this one struck me as to why that JB cannot claim mental defect. jmo

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/17929872/index.html

Who ever the DPQ attorney is going to be they have are hard road ahead of them if they do not get reins on JB. jmo

[Dick Tracy]

"If anyone thinks this is a slam-dunk case, they are far from mistaken." Jose :thumbsup:

If anyone doesn't think this is a slam-dunk case, they no NOTHING about Basketball. --Dick "That's Weird" Tracy.

[frances1]

Oh me too!:sneaky: It is just lost on George and Cindy that these organizations that they want to help probably don't even want their help. They have been bashing LE, the prosecution, and all the other authorities in the handling of their daughter's/granddaughter's case, and yet they want to help them w/other missing children cases? Seriously?!? LE is probably thinking thanks, but no thanks.:sneaky: And who can blame them? The Anthony's are such hypocrites. They won't be able to help anybody until they are able to help themselves. And personally, the only area that I think they will **ever** have any credibility in helping others, is helping other families cope when one of their family members murder one of their own.

Dells, I don't even see how they could help others cope with that situation. They haven't coped themselves.

[Barbara fl.]

Good morning AMS, and all!

It was a wonderful time. I love it that he's almost 11 and is still sooo proud of his Mom. :wub: So courtly, too.

I feel the same as you with the little girls. I wasn't expecting to think of this case when I went there but the little girl's name of course made it impossible not to do so. Then I looked at all the little girls and remembered the time my daughter was so little and how fun and fulfilling it SO was and is. I just can't wrap my head around this.

From the first days of my pregnancies 30+ years ago, the biggest fear in my life has been losing one of my children. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think how lucky I am so far. Not a day. I suppose it out of pure selfishness that I am so fearful because I know I may very well not survive it if it happens. I had one child for almost 13 years before I had another and I knew that if something befell him I wouldn't make it. Once I had others, I knew I would HAVE to make it, for them, but I would never be "all right" again. Let ANYTHING happen to me, but I beg, don't let me lose one of my children!

Another good post,

I feel the same way....I doubt that I could survive losing a child or grandchild...They are all too close to my heart...I believe I would have to go on for the sake of the others...But I would be dead on the inside....

[frances1]

Another good post,

I feel the same way....I doubt that I could survive losing a child or grandchild...They are all too close to my heart...I believe I would have to go on for the sake of the others...But I would be dead on the inside....

Barbara, I think I would be, too.

[Dells]

ITA sorjam...
Once they get the Ants up there on the stand it's inevitable that Cindy will screw up.
No one remembers lie after lie.
They will screw themselves and their daughter because the prosecutors will go back and show all these clips from all the talk shows and question them as to the difference in their answers to the same questions.
It will ruin their credibility. The same thing happened when they were being deposed. Cindy got very angry when the attorneys began to show the clips. She will do the same thing up on the stand. She's very hostile.
Cindy has been covering up for her kids for years thinking thats what a mother does. Casey does not have a clue what responsibility is.
Goes to show you what a lousy mother she was. A jealous mother of her own daughter Caylee, if you think about it. One selfish, selfish young woman.
It is all about Casey and Casey only. Blame that on her dear mother.:unsure:
JMO

Bolding mine....

So true! And you know what? It **still** is only about Casey to George and Cindy, even now. No wonder Casey turned out the way she did. It's all about **her**. It's certainly no wonder that Casey is so selfish and self centered, if this is the way the George and Cindy have always treated her. Never having to take responsibility for all the negative things she has done in her life except to how they apply to her. Never mind that Caylee was brutally murdered and thrown away like trash.:sneaky: It's all about saving her pathetic murderer now.

[Dells]

You make an interesting point when you say shes been covering because she thinks thats what a mother does.

Yes, but what does a grandmother do?:confused:

[Dick Tracy]

Good morning, Dick Tracy. :seeya:

I don't think we ever had Casey's side of the conversation because I think all of her text messages were lost when her cell phone provider canceled her service when they realized that she paid for her bill w/one of Amy's stolen checks. I just remember reading this a long time ago, and I don't have a link to back this up. Hopefully someone will be able to provide more insight on this. It sure would be nice to see how Casey responded to TL and to have her side of the conversation. I think it would be very telling.

Hiya Dells :seeya:

No.... I respectfully disagree, because I have seen it. It's the conversation where Casey says (and I'm paraphrasing) - when asked why would you lie to me (your boyfriend) - Casey responds with some to the effect that she's been lying to everyone for the last 31 days. When asked about that she's says something to the effect of "didn't want to tell everyone that Caylee was with a crazy or psycho Nanny."

Does that jog anyones mind? I think there are some important clues in that exchange, but I just cannot find the OC's (but have seen it before).

If anyone sees westsidejoe, I was told he was up on these things. I don't know.l

But for the life of me I cannot find it.

[Barbara fl.]

Dells, I don't even see how they could help others cope with that situation. They haven't coped themselves.

That's correct....How can they help someone else with a missing child etc., when they haven't come to terms with their loss?....Also, anyone who would be in need for this help, wouldn't even want them around. ...It would be a reminder that they covered up a simular tragedy....

I certainly wouldn't want them around me...I consider them no better then their daughter as long as they continue to lie to protect her....

[Dick Tracy]

That's correct....How can they help someone else with a missing child etc., when they haven't come to terms with their loss?....Also, anyone who would be in need for this help, wouldn't even want them around. ...It would be a reminder that they covered up a simular tragedy....

I certainly wouldn't want them around me...I consider them no better then their daughter as long as they continue to lie to protect her....

Good Morning Ocala Florida!!

Hey Barb, did you see the second post on this thread on page 1? About a text conversation that the OC and TL on the morning of 7/16 at around 6:50am?

You remember her answers to that conversation?

[CelticDawn]

Yes, but what does a grandmother do?:confused:

I know I would never ever want to be in a situation like Cindy's....totally unthinkable.....but I do believe that covering for ANY child instead of having them face the consequences of whatever actions they may have taken only serves to inflict MORE damage to that child....

In the situation of casey....cindy doesnt realize it but her very actions are damaging casey more than if she came out and said "My daughter is a murderer and needs to take responsibility for her crimes"

[Dells]

I thought Larry's timing was perfect showing George and Cindy the bloggers' comments at the beginning of the show. Almost a forewarning that the public doesn't believe you so be careful what you say.

It also boggles my mind the A's refuse to visit Casey for fear the recorded visit will be dissected YET they have no qualms appearing on show after show knowing full well it will be reported and us bad bloggers will scrutinize every word. :rolleyes:
There is a good reason the A's are not visiting Casey. The media reporting, Sunshine Laws and critical bloggers has nothing to do with it. IMO Cindy knows who killed Caylee and doesn't want to face her murderer.

Bolding mine....

So true! The Anthony's don't realize that they and Casey are picked apart even more because they **don't** go visit each other. In any case, it is just an excuse as to why they don't go visit her because I think everyone has figured out by now that the real reason they don't go visit Casey is that their loving daughter doesn't want to see them and is refusing to see them.

I think it is laughable that they say that they don't go visit Casey because it will be played and picked apart in the media, and yet they go on all these interviews that are played and picked apart in the media. I wish they would apply the same logic to their interviews as they do to visiting Casey, because then maybe we wouldn't have to see them on all these interviews then.:sneaky:

[Lavinia]

Bolded mine. But...but ....but ...Lavinia you sound so young, you Cant get pregnant at 10. <Stole a wub>
Yep, good ol' days with Murt, I was going to meet the van full of partying ladies..LOL
<Swoon> I KNEW I :wub: you! LOL. I'm past cougar age even, lol.

Yeah, I remember you thinking that van was your virtual harem. :laugh: I wonder if Murt could make a graceful comeback before the trial? We DID learn a lot through those wacky rides. I would love for him to take us by the Milstead's properties, especially if we could carry eggs.

Gotta go to school now before I get grounded again. :wink:

[jammies]

Rick Savage (is that his name? The guy Cindy was "petting".) The lady who is quite religious, Wanda? Wasn't that the day that Cindy pulled the sign or something off of Murt's RV when he and Lois were there?


Yes, that was the day. Who was that Wanda anyway? I don't remember but there was a bit of talk about her at the time. (i think we were all roof riding back then)

[Barbara fl.]

Hiya Dells :seeya:

No.... I respectfully disagree, because I have seen it. It's the conversation where Casey says (and I'm paraphrasing) - when asked why would you lie to me (your boyfriend) - Casey responds with some to the effect that she's been lying to everyone for the last 31 days. When asked about that she's says something to the effect of "didn't want to tell everyone that Caylee was with a crazy or psycho Nanny."

Does that jog anyones mind? I think there are some important clues in that exchange, but I just cannot find the OC's (but have seen it before).

If anyone sees westsidejoe, I was told he was up on these things. I don't know.l

But for the life of me I cannot find it.



It sounds familiar....but I can not remember when or where I heard it....However, this will be used against her when it comes time for the defense to say that the reason Casey was acting so happy was because she wasn't worried about Caylee being with the nanny....

This will make it all the worse for her.....if you knew your child was with a psycho, how could you go out partying?

Casey is cooked (well done)...there is NO way out of this for her....and although I stated that she might not get the DP....I now think she just might take that walk....

[KittyMom]

Interesting reading!

Caylee Anthony Foundation: What The Anthony’s Don’t Want You To Know
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/caylee-anthony-foundation-what-the-anthonys-dont-want-you-to-know/

It also includes a link to the possible supplier of the Caylee Bears and a post left on LKL's blogs from someone who reportedly knows the Anthony's.

jmo

Very interesting. This person must be pretty close to them for them to call and say such un-Christian things. hmmm...family member maybe?

[Tracian]

Incredible. I just read the transcripts from the A's interview on LKL.

I found this part rather amusing:

CINDY ANTHONY: I watched my daughter for nearly three years be the best mom. I mean she's loving and caring. And there's nobody that has come forward that said that Casey wasn't anything other than a loving mother.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html



True, no one has come forward....but Cindy, according to Casey, and others, criticized Casey and her parenting skills. Cindy's boss claims Cindy was so concerned she was considering taking Caylee away from Casey..

I cannot believe the way these people can twist, turn and spin....

[Dells]

I bet Cindy had already read a good portion of the comments on LKL's site. I know, I know Cindy has said several times during interviews she does not read message boards/bloggers's pages, but she continues to bring up the bloggers and things they have said. Now how would she know what the bloggers are saying if she is not reading?

It would take a lot of restraint for one not to read what they were saying. IMO, Cindy does not have that much restraint. :tonguewag:

Bolding mine....

I think the fact that Cindy says that she doesn't read the message boards/bloggers, just reinforces the fact that she does.:tonguewag: Cindy has proved herself to be a liar. If she knows what the message boards/bloggers are saying, then surely she must be reading.

[Barbara fl.]

Good Morning Ocala Florida!!

Hey Barb, did you see the second post on this thread on page 1? About a text conversation that the OC and TL on the morning of 7/16 at around 6:50am?

You remember her answers to that conversation?


Not sure...but it could very well have been the statement where she states that Zany is a psycho....or something like that...another poster was also remembering that statement and I do recall hearing it before...

[Dells]

thought for the day:

hasnt the thought crossed their minds, or someone else who has half a brain, that any attempt at marketing a teddy bear is obscene?

they consider this a tribute to their MURDERED granddaughter? when their own daughter had an image on her web page of a teddy bear hanging in a noose......and is going to be tried for MURDER ONE of her own child, with the possibility of being convicted and sentenced to death?

these people really dont 'get it'.....that image just might be displayed on a huge screen in the courtroom.......<-----one can only hope......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Hi, pru, as usual, you hit the nail right on the head.:thumbup: Yes, it is lost on them. Completely lost. It is disgusting and repulsive on so many levels, and yet they fail to see it.

[jammies]

jammies

Found a video from wftv at JBP

http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html

Still can't locate the article.


Thanks, Pam. 4 ladies in the video. Cindy's entourage. The one with the long blonde hair....Holly?

[Barbara fl.]

Thanks, desmom. Great reading. I loved the post from the person who supposedly knows them. They don't have everyone in the neighborhood snowed!

Good morning Lizziegirl,

I personally do not think the Anthony's have ANYONE snowed...they may think they do, or hope they do......but they don't.....

[Lavinia]

Yes, that was the day. Who was that Wanda anyway? I don't remember but there was a bit of talk about her at the time. (i think we were all roof riding back then)

I don't know how she became involved, jammies. I think she just inserted herself. I know I worried about her, um, "colorful" personality and actions at the time. Meltdown O'Clock, tick, tock. :scared:

(I remember you on the roof, too! We were some unruly, incorrigible, delinquents!) :thumbup:

[Barbara fl.]

So true! Apparently Cindy's **unconditional love** didn't apply to Caylee.:sneaky:


Statement of the day.........


So very true....

[summer4meplz]

I remember that women, is she in this video of LP at prayer service

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/856243

when I clicked on that link, my computer got knocked off line....but I remember riding with Murt and I was wondering what ever happened to him. Is he still following the casey case?

[Dick Tracy]

It sounds familiar....but I can not remember when or where I heard it....However, this will be used against her when it comes time for the defense to say that the reason Casey was acting so happy was because she wasn't worried about Caylee being with the nanny....

This will make it all the worse for her.....if you knew your child was with a psycho, how could you go out partying?

Casey is cooked (well done)...there is NO way out of this for her....and although I stated that she might not get the DP....I now think she just might take that walk....


Oh she is cooked. Somehow I see Casey at trial acting smug, and playing footsies with JB during the trial. Acting nonchalant, possibly smiling, making eye contact with a young man in the jury. Just as SP's jury picked up on that during the Peterson trial, it will not go unnoticed during the OC's time during the trial. A needle will be to humane for her, but the pressure leading up to that day zero will probably kill her.

[summer4meplz]

Thanks, desmom. Great reading. I loved the post from the person who supposedly knows them. They don't have everyone in the neighborhood snowed!


lizzie, did you hear the interview with neighbors, Mr. and Mrs. Dickens.....he claims the NEIGHBORHOOD voted cindy as the b*tch from he77....:thumbsup:

I don't think anyone in the neighborhood is snowed...lol

[Tracian]

I know I would never ever want to be in a situation like Cindy's....totally unthinkable.....but I do believe that covering for ANY child instead of having them face the consequences of whatever actions they may have taken only serves to inflict MORE damage to that child....

In the situation of casey....cindy doesnt realize it but her very actions are damaging casey more than if she came out and said "My daughter is a murderer and needs to take responsibility for her crimes"


Cindy is not protecting Casey, she is not fighting to remember Caylee...she is doing everything to protect her self image, to gather sympathy for her plight, to show the world what a wonderful, loving, caring person she is....

This stopped being about Casey or more importantly, Caylee very early on.

[Lavinia]

Please, could some one point me in the direction of this inmate that was locked up with Casey. Isn't there an interview with her floating around somewhere?

Thanks very much.

Here ya go, Witchy!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-video-interview-former-inmate-reveals-day-casey-anthony-had-be

[Dells]

Good Morning Ellegna!
I do not think the A's refuse to visit Casey, but Casey refuses to see her parents...especially Cindy. We have heard about a jealousy issue between Cindy and Casey from several friend's interviews, in Casey's handwritten statement to LE she said she went to one of the few places she felt "at home" - her boyfriend's apartment (dig at Cindy?), JB said Casey did not want a public memorial for Caylee - but Cindy did it any way (dig at Casey?).

This has been bouncing around in my head for some time now... Cindy has to know the public's reaction to their interviews, public statements etc. Is it possible Cindy is doing these interviews as a means of showing Casey she still has the upper hand even though Casey is behind bars? jmo

Great post, and very good thoughts!:thumbup: I also think Cindy is continually getting a dig into Casey w/her unwavering love and support. I am sure that Casey probably thought that by now her parents would surely have abandon her for murdering Caylee, and yet here they are standing by her like superglue no matter what she does. Even though Casey won't visit w/her parents , they are still sticking by her and trying to protect her. Casey probably doesn't know where to direct her anger to now because she was probably planning on blaming everything on her parents once they abandoned her. Heck, she probably is still blaming them anyway, but I am sure she is somewhat confused by them. Maybe even more confused than the rest of us are because she knows them so well.

[BlueTurtle]

Isn't it surprising given how all the TH's continually say that a defendant, even a guilty one, deserves the best defense they can get? Guess when their reputation is on the line that goes out the window :rolleyes:

I think Baez is still wanting to control the process and no self respecting DPQ lawyer is going to want to have the strategy dictated to him/her. I am sure that a DPQ lawyer would work to reduce her sentence since there is a lot of evidence to support conviction. I would see that lawyer approaching LE with a plea deal. Only problem is that Casey will never admit guilt. Only way is if they get it down to 2nd degree or involuntary manslaughter so she has a chance at parol. I could see Caylee inadvertantly getting overheated in a car while Casey was having a hizzy fit. It was June and hot.

[jakee]

I don't know how she became involved, jammies. I think she just inserted herself. I know I worried about her, um, "colorful" personality and actions at the time. Meltdown O'Clock, tick, tock. :scared:

(I remember you on the roof, too! We were some unruly, incorrigible, delinquents!) :thumbup:

I was a quiet passenger in Murt's van. I did enjoy those trips.

I am getting mixed up between Wanda and Joy. Was it Joy who claimed to be married to a PI working for the Anthony's? I cannot believe how I can forget things so easily.

[summer4meplz]

Incredible. I just read the transcripts from the A's interview on LKL.

I found this part rather amusing:

CINDY ANTHONY: I watched my daughter for nearly three years be the best mom. I mean she's loving and caring. And there's nobody that has come forward that said that Casey wasn't anything other than a loving mother.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html



True, no one has come forward....but Cindy, according to Casey, and others, criticized Casey and her parenting skills. Cindy's boss claims Cindy was so concerned she was considering taking Caylee away from Casey..

I cannot believe the way these people can twist, turn and spin....


in my opinion, they haven't come forward because they will be testifying against her in the trial.....

[summer4meplz]

I was a quiet passenger in Murt's van. I did enjoy those trips.

I am getting mixed up between Wanda and Joy. Was it Joy who claimed to be married to a PI working for the Anthony's? I cannot believe how I can forget things so easily.


Hi Jakee.....well...it's not like there's only a few characters to remember lol.....I can't believe the facts I know about this case but can't remember what I had for dinner last night :blushing:

[Barbara fl.]

Now that's an Interesting point, Barbara...
If the evil woman is wanting to support her daughter Casey because that's her daughter and it's (in her mind) politically correct, then she would be a support to her. Lies, deception, and making things up as she goes along is something that is just wrong. It's like she wants to get her out of taking responsibility. This is exactly what I meant about raising Casey to be the way she turned out. An irresponsible, self centered, egotistical poor excuse for being a mother.
Just like her momma.
I don't believe Cindy as far as I could throw her about how she gets thousands of letters asking for her help to find missing children. I think it's another stunt to make them look like good parents and grandparents.
The bit on LKL about "Thanking" the Orange County Police department for everything they have done on this case. BS!
Cindy was after their juggler vain from day one!:sneaky:


I had to laugh at that statement " she wants to thank the Orange Count Police Department"...What a crock....

As for her 1000's of letters....That's a crock also...

She may very well receive letter's by the 1000's....but they certainly are NOT support letters.....

If Cindy had such letter's she would have brought everyone with her...especially whne LK showed her the pages and pages of post's criticizing them....

[Lavinia]

when I clicked on that link, my computer got knocked off line....but I remember riding with Murt and I was wondering what ever happened to him. Is he still following the casey case?

I think it pretty much fell apart Summer, after the hacking, and the weird suicide thingy (can't remember the details). That hacking thing was pretty bad. I went to his site one evening and didn't know why he had a video of a ham moving. It wasn't a ham. :blushing:

[KittyMom]

I think that the reason that Goerge doesn't visit Casey is because Baez won't let him and Cindy would birth a cow if he did. As for Cindy...anyone remember the interview she gave the morning after Casey's murder arrest? She was sporting scratches around her throat and across her nose. I don't think she did it herself. I think there was a throw-down in the A's house the night before because Casey blamed the coming grand jury indictment on Cindy. They didn't part on good terms.

This isn't a great video. I've looked for still shots from the video and can't find any that are clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPIy5w29ukI&feature=PlayList&p=B8CBB2E79E5B23C8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=16

[margaritaville]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19464687/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A glimpse into the life of Casey Anthony one year ago shows interesting details of what her life was like before her daughter disappeared.

[Pam1569]

It sounds familiar....but I can not remember when or where I heard it....However, this will be used against her when it comes time for the defense to say that the reason Casey was acting so happy was because she wasn't worried about Caylee being with the nanny....

This will make it all the worse for her.....if you knew your child was with a psycho, how could you go out partying?

Casey is cooked (well done)...there is NO way out of this for her....and although I stated that she might not get the DP....I now think she just might take that walk....

GM Barbara, I don't think she will get the DP, but the walk she will get will be in GP by someone who is bigger, better and number one in that prison. She will be shown the light (but not God's light it will be the flame light)! :laugh:

[Lavinia]

I was a quiet passenger in Murt's van. I did enjoy those trips.

I am getting mixed up between Wanda and Joy. Was it Joy who claimed to be married to a PI working for the Anthony's? I cannot believe how I can forget things so easily.

Oh, I DO think that was Joy, jakee! I think I got 'em mixed up, too. I can't believe how much I forget!

[Barbara fl.]

Oh she is cooked. Somehow I see Casey at trial acting smug, and playing footsies with JB during the trial. Acting nonchalant, possibly smiling, making eye contact with a young man in the jury. Just as SP's jury picked up on that during the Peterson trial, it will not go unnoticed during the OC's time during the trial. A needle will be to humane for her, but the pressure leading up to that day zero will probably kill her.

You are probably right...I can see her now making eyes at a juror and thinking that she will sway him...:rolleyes:....I wouldn't put anything at all past her...

I do remember Scott pulling that as well......:laugh:

But look where is his.....(where she is going).....

[Pam1569]

Thanks, Pam. 4 ladies in the video. Cindy's entourage. The one with the long blonde hair....Holly?

jammies, It does look like her.

[Tracian]

Does anyone have a link to Larry Kings blog with the comments from the Anthony interview?

TIA

[jammies]

lizzie, did you hear the interview with neighbors, Mr. and Mrs. Dickens.....he claims the NEIGHBORHOOD voted cindy as the b*tch from he77....:thumbsup:

I don't think anyone in the neighborhood is snowed...lol



Gotta confess, out of ALL the interviews in this case, that one was my absolute FAV!!

[Dells]

Interesting reading!

Caylee Anthony Foundation: What The Anthony’s Don’t Want You To Know
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/caylee-anthony-foundation-what-the-anthonys-dont-want-you-to-know/

It also includes a link to the possible supplier of the Caylee Bears and a post left on LKL's blogs from someone who reportedly knows the Anthony's.

jmo

That was a very interesting read, thanks so much for sharing the link w/us. :seeya:

[Dick Tracy]

I think that the reason that Goerge doesn't visit Casey is because Baez won't let him and Cindy would birth a cow if he did. As for Cindy...anyone remember the interview she gave the morning after Casey's murder arrest? She was sporting scratches around her throat and across her nose. I don't think she did it herself. I think there was a throw-down in the A's house the night before because Casey blamed the coming grand jury indictment on Cindy. They didn't part on good terms.

This isn't a great video. I've looked for still shots from the video and can't find any that are clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPIy5w29ukI&feature=PlayList&p=B8CBB2E79E5B23C8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=16

That perked me up... A throwdown at the Anthony's house. Yeah! I like it.

[Lapis]

I am just so interested in seeing who actually NEEDS to become involved with this case. Not knowing any death qualified attorneys personally, I would think that each and evereyone of them is watching this case very closely, trying to figure out how they would handle this. It is such a mess of lies and bogus stories that stepping up and trying to defend KC, to the best of their ability, is going to be very difficult for even for the seasoned elite.

It is a common pastime of attorneys in cases we read or hear about to imagine the arguments we would make. Heck, when sitting on motion day I often want to go and whisper an argument in another attorneys ear. I always discuss my thoughts about my own cases with other attorneys. I also used to present things to my grandmother because I considered her an average juror. I think it makes one a better attorney to pick the brains of people I trust.

I believe a new attorney could come in and completely change the course of the defense but only if JB steps aside. He/she would not be bound by anything JB has said or done outside of the courtroom. He/she may even be able to reverse things done in the courtroom by arguing that JB's incompetence should not be held against the client and it may avoid an appeal later.

JMO

[jammies]

jammies, It does look like her.


btw, all that pretend crying from Cindy and not one tear.



Thanks for all the research today, Pam.

[frances1]

I know this is petty on my part, but did anyone else think Cindy was wearing false eyelashes on LKL? Either that, or four or five layers of mascara. Her attempt at looking down demurely was laughable. And did everyone notice the look of horror she shot BC when he said there would be no harm in the Anthonys visiting Casey in jail?

[Barbara fl.]

GM Barbara, I don't think she will get the DP, but the walk she will get will be in GP by someone who is bigger, better and number one in that prison. She will be shown the light (but not God's light it will be the flame light)! :laugh:

GM Pam, I too really don't think she will receive the DP....but Florida doesn't play...They have just about had enough with Casey's lies and the GP's covering up....Florida doesn't have a state tax and this is really taking a toll on the budget....

But the walk into General population will be enough to satisfy me...knowing that she will never see the break of day from outside of those bars....

I hope someone sends her pictures of how Caylee would be looking each year that passes....

[Dells]

My favorite was that she thinks Casey was lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. :rolleyes:

There you have it, folks, one of the many reasons that Casey is "Mother of the Year".

Bolding mine...

Oh yes, that little quote from Cindy was priceless.:rolleyes: At the time Casey lied to LE about working at Universal, Caylee was already missing and murdered, so how exactly would lying to LE then enable Casey to spend more time w/Caylee? Cindy has an answer and excuse for everything, no matter how ridiculous.:thumbdown:

[KatieLady]

Bolding mine...

Oh yes, that little quote from Cindy was priceless.:rolleyes: At the time Casey lied to LE about working at Universal, Caylee was already missing and murdered, so how exactly would lying to LE then enable Casey to spend more time w/Caylee? Cindy has an answer and excuse for everything, no matter how ridiculous.:thumbdown:


Unfortunately, Casey learned from the best IMO

[Barbara fl.]

I know this is petty on my part, but did anyone else think Cindy was wearing false eyelashes on LKL? Either that, or four or five layers of mascara. Her attempt at looking down demurely was laughable. And did everyone notice the look of horror she shot BC when he said there would be no harm in the Anthonys visiting Casey in jail?

I noticed how Cindy was made up as well...she doesn't seem to be too depressed, looking at how she appeared...She gives me the impression that George better keep an eye on her...she seems to get too friendly around men if you noticed.....guess Casey got that honestly as well....

[spiritwolf46]

That was funny. And he said he was going to give them to the A's. Can you imagine Cindy's response when Larry asked her if she wanted to read the comments?

#$%^**!@#&# Maggots
@#$^^%% Parasites
#%((*_)*@#^& Bloggers

imo


ROfl!!!!!!! :lol:

That is just TOOOO funny, for I CAN see her saying that!

[frances1]

It is a common pastime of attorneys in cases we read or hear about to imagine the arguments we would make. Heck, when sitting on motion day I often want to go and whisper an argument in another attorneys ear. I always discuss my thoughts about my own cases with other attorneys. I also used to present things to my grandmother because I considered her an average juror. I think it makes one a better attorney to pick the brains of people I trust.

I believe a new attorney could come in and completely change the course of the defense but only if JB steps aside. He/she would not be bound by anything JB has said or done outside of the courtroom. He/she may even be able to reverse things done in the courtroom by arguing that JB's incompetence should not be held against the client and it may avoid an appeal later.

JMO


Lapis, I think JB is really stymied right now. He knows that he has to turn this case over to a DP qualified attorney, and it's my understanding that the new attorney would have autonomy in how he/she wants to try the case. JB does not want to turn over the controls, but he has no choice, IMO

[Barbara fl.]

What made me laugh was he said this is some of the email we have received from viewers and Cindy automatically assumed it was all negative without even hearing the first couple he read.

They have to know that the whole darn country is against them......

[trich]

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!

Does not mean we condone our loved ones actions, words, and make excuses for their bad behavior.
We make them face up to their responsibilities not excuse them.
That is what true love is.
Too bad the Anthonys don't have a clue.

[Dells]

Here's another great Cindyism.
KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

Well, Cindy, if there is a lot of evidence out there to prove that Casey didn't do this, then show it to us and put an end to this charade. What a completely nonsensical answer to that question.:sneaky: Everything that I have seen, personally shows me that only one person is responsible for this horrific crime. Casey.

[101Spots]

I don't know how she became involved, jammies. I think she just inserted herself. I know I worried about her, um, "colorful" personality and actions at the time. Meltdown O'Clock, tick, tock. :scared:

(I remember you on the roof, too! We were some unruly, incorrigible, delinquents!) :thumbup:

Joy Wray, IIRC.

She's the definition of strange.

[Barbara fl.]

I notice the CMA Foundation is only for "missing, abused or expolited" children.

I guess if they turn up murdered after being missing, Cindy jettisons the family over to some other organization. G@D Forbid they be connected a to murdered child.



I wonder if they thought about naming it "CMA" foundation....this way Lee can always say that he meant it for all three.....so if any funds were to be used for Casey, it would not be able to be contested....

I wouldn't put it past them one bit.....

[AMS]

ROfl!!!!!!! :lol:

That is just TOOOO funny, for I CAN see her saying that!

Hi spirit - welcome back. Did you watch the Ant's on LKL?

[frances1]

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!

Does not mean we condone our loved ones actions, words, and make excuses for their bad behavior.
We make them face up to their responsibilities not excuse them.
That is what true love is.
Too bad the Anthonys don't have a clue.

Trich, that is what I believe, as well. I'm not even sure that any human being is really capable of 'unconditional' love. Just as Mrs. Hudson has said, who coined that phrase, anyway? I would be more concerned about the state of my child's eternal soul than with appearances, but that's just me.

[Pam1569]

btw, all that pretend crying from Cindy and not one tear.



Thanks for all the research today, Pam.

jammies, I think that OC learned well from her mom on how to manipulate anyone with fake tears, sobs or by any other means to get their way. But OC has lost her control and now the jury will have that and Cindy is trying to keep control of this situation that she has manifested but imo is loosing the battle.

YW jammies, My hubby says that I am obsessed with this case. LOL

[Dells]

Man, a bittersweet morning this morning. I went to my son's school this morning for a date with him at a "Muffins for Moms" event and a little girl sat next to me, about 5ish. Her name was Caylee. I just thought of the little things that mean so much that she will be missing and her "mother" so stupidly threw away. :crying: Casey squandered the closest thing we have to heaven on earth.

So true, Lavinia.:rose:

[Dells]

Wow! Thanks des. George is getting $40,000 to be spokesperson for KFN? Oh fgs. They make me ill.

imo

George probably thinks that he hit the jackpot because I am sure that is more than he has ever made in a year at any job that he has ever had in his life.:sneaky:

[101Spots]

It is a common pastime of attorneys in cases we read or hear about to imagine the arguments we would make. Heck, when sitting on motion day I often want to go and whisper an argument in another attorneys ear. I always discuss my thoughts about my own cases with other attorneys. I also used to present things to my grandmother because I considered her an average juror. I think it makes one a better attorney to pick the brains of people I trust.

I believe a new attorney could come in and completely change the course of the defense but only if JB steps aside. He/she would not be bound by anything JB has said or done outside of the courtroom. He/she may even be able to reverse things done in the courtroom by arguing that JB's incompetence should not be held against the client and it may avoid an appeal later.

JMO

Will NEVER happen voluntarily. Never. Never ever.

[Pam1569]

I know this is petty on my part, but did anyone else think Cindy was wearing false eyelashes on LKL? Either that, or four or five layers of mascara. Her attempt at looking down demurely was laughable. And did everyone notice the look of horror she shot BC when he said there would be no harm in the Anthonys visiting Casey in jail?

Hi frances, yep I noticed the glare that she gave BC and I bet she wanted to tear him apart at that time. I wonder what she actually said to him on their way back to the hotel? Probably could have been heard through the car and beyond. :laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!

Does not mean we condone our loved ones actions, words, and make excuses for their bad behavior.
We make them face up to their responsibilities not excuse them.
That is what true love is.
Too bad the Anthonys don't have a clue.



You are SOOOOOOOO right.....

Unconditional love means (to me) that you would stand by your child no matter what......BUT NOT COVER UP OR CONDONE THEIR ACTIONS...

Once when my son was younger and acting out....I told him that I loved him but didn't like him.....I never would cover up or condone such behavior....

Stand by them yes.....but never, never defend their bad actions.....

[sofiesmom]

O/T:

I just heard on GMA that it is now 1100 dealerships(not sure I heard that right, I know yesterday it was 789) being closed by Chyrsler. Wow, imagine all the people who are going to lose their jobs from those who work at the dealerships, suppliers, advertising vehicles.

Boy, our world is changing. We need to pay attention and speak out.

Sorry for OT but it is really scary what is happening.O/T response: The reporting of this is confusing, but I found the truth I think. Chrysler is closing 789 dealerships. GM is planning to not renew 1,100 franchises when their contracts are up in Sept. 2010.

This may have already been addressed...I'm way behind as usual.

[Pam1569]

GM Pam, I too really don't think she will receive the DP....but Florida doesn't play...They have just about had enough with Casey's lies and the GP's covering up....Florida doesn't have a state tax and this is really taking a toll on the budget....

But the walk into General population will be enough to satisfy me...knowing that she will never see the break of day from outside of those bars....

I hope someone sends her pictures of how Caylee would be looking each year that passes....

Barbara, I would want her to remember the pictures of poor Caylee the way they found her when it is shown at court. Those are the images that should be her nightmare for the rest of her life.

[Dells]

Good morning AMS, and all!

It was a wonderful time. I love it that he's almost 11 and is still sooo proud of his Mom. :wub: So courtly, too.

I feel the same as you with the little girls. I wasn't expecting to think of this case when I went there but the little girl's name of course made it impossible not to do so. Then I looked at all the little girls and remembered the time my daughter was so little and how fun and fulfilling it SO was and is. I just can't wrap my head around this.

From the first days of my pregnancies 30+ years ago, the biggest fear in my life has been losing one of my children. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think how lucky I am so far. Not a day. I suppose it out of pure selfishness that I am so fearful because I know I may very well not survive it if it happens. I had one child for almost 13 years before I had another and I knew that if something befell him I wouldn't make it. Once I had others, I knew I would HAVE to make it, for them, but I would never be "all right" again. Let ANYTHING happen to me, but I beg, don't let me lose one of my children!

Oh, Lavinia, I feel the exact same way.:wub: My 3 children are just my world and mean everything to me. I think that is part of the reason why this case has touched me so much. I just don't understand how a mother could murder her own child.:confused:

[Barbara fl.]

George probably thinks that he hit the jackpot because I am sure that is more than he has ever made in a year at any job that he has ever had in his life.:sneaky:


I guess thats why they are in such high spirits lately....more of this kind of money coming in and they might just go to the jail and visit Casey to kiss her....

[Barbara fl.]

Barbara, I would want her to remember the pictures of poor Caylee the way they found her when it is shown at court. Those are the images that should be her nightmare for the rest of her life.

We should make it a point to get them too her (if they are ever released to the public).....she needs a constant reminder as to why she is there....

[AMS]

I heard that Wendy Murphy was great on JVM last night. She apprently took on Terrence Lenamon who was also on the show. Did anyone see it? I can't find a youtube version.

Thanks.

[Lapis]

Lapis, I think JB is really stymied right now. He knows that he has to turn this case over to a DP qualified attorney, and it's my understanding that the new attorney would have autonomy in how he/she wants to try the case. JB does not want to turn over the controls, but he has no choice, IMO

JB has quite the dilemma. Most would see that now that the DP is on the table, it would be in his client's best interest to turn the case over to a DP qualified attorney. Quite frankly it gives him a graceful exit. A truly self-aware attorney knows his/her limitations.

However, he is afraid of what the new attorney may say in court or out that may not cast him in the most favorable light. He also sees himself as Casey's savior which is probably bolstered by his conversations with her.

JMO

[Barbara fl.]

my bold

Can you imagine if the improbable happens and she is found not guilty? This family will continue as if their family dynamics are completely above reproach, and Casey will continue to inflict herself on the public as a wronged heroine, with full support from the A's.
:cursing:




HUSH YOUR MOUTH........she WILL be convicted, if I have to convict her myself.....:mad:

[Dells]

ITA- very well said. Do you think this is why it is taking so long for the defense to name a DP attorney for their team? I wonder if any attorney that far up on the food chain is going to want to risk their reputation by becoming involved with this case or this client.

Yes I do. Whoever agrees to come on board has to agree to play second fiddle to JB. I bet there are not too many reputable DPQ attorneys who are willing to do that. I am sure they will get somebody though. It will certainly be interesting to hear who it is.

[101Spots]

JB has quite the dilemma. Most would see that now that the DP is on the table, it would be in his client's best interest to turn the case over to a DP qualified attorney. Quite frankly it gives him a graceful exit. A truly self-aware attorney knows his/her limitations.

However, he is afraid of what the new attorney may say in court or out that may not cast him in the most favorable light. He also sees himself as Casey's savior which is probably bolstered by his conversations with her.

JMO

You are too kind.

I would have just said that he's a power-hungry, ego-driven, money-grubbing, infatuated idiot.

You're much nicer than I am.

[Dells]

If anyone doesn't think this is a slam-dunk case, they no NOTHING about Basketball. --Dick "That's Weird" Tracy.

:laugh:........

[Tracian]

my bold

Can you imagine if the improbable happens and she is found not guilty? This family will continue as if their family dynamics are completely above reproach, and Casey will continue to inflict herself on the public as a wronged heroine, with full support from the A's.
:cursing:


Stranger things have happened. I have honestly lost sleep thinking about the possibility that Casey did get off---who is going to protect the next child she would undoubtably have?

[Lapis]

You are too kind.

I would have just said that he's a power-hungry, ego-driven, money-grubbing, infatuated idiot.

You're much nicer than I am.

It comes from years of being tactful in the courtroom. LOL

[Dells]

Dells, I don't even see how they could help others cope with that situation. They haven't coped themselves.

I was thinking about a time way down in the distant future **if** they ever face the reality of their own situation. You're right though, they will never be in a position to help anybody else.:sneaky:

[CelticDawn]

Cindy is not protecting Casey, she is not fighting to remember Caylee...she is doing everything to protect her self image, to gather sympathy for her plight, to show the world what a wonderful, loving, caring person she is....

This stopped being about Casey or more importantly, Caylee very early on.

I agree with you....but she is trying to APPEAR to be loving and caring....but her covering makes her appear to be nothing more than an enabler...I truly believe she doesnt really care about her family....and that she never did....all she cares about is that they all had (past tense) an image!!....an image which reflected directly upon CINDY...

If she did care it is a warped twisted way of caring and covering up would only add to their dysfunction.

[ruth66]

Great post, and very good thoughts!:thumbup: I also think Cindy is continually getting a dig into Casey w/her unwavering love and support. I am sure that Casey probably thought that by now her parents would surely have abandon her for murdering Caylee, and yet here they are standing by her like superglue no matter what she does. Even though Casey won't visit w/her parents , they are still sticking by her and trying to protect her. Casey probably doesn't know where to direct her anger to now because she was probably planning on blaming everything on her parents once they abandoned her. Heck, she probably is still blaming them anyway, but I am sure she is somewhat confused by them. Maybe even more confused than the rest of us are because she knows them so well.

Bolding mine
This is where I think the war really is. I believe the "aha moment" that JB is talking about is going to be something about Casey's life at home. Possibly painting her family as abandoning her in some way or her needing protection from them (in comes the search for self defense). Remember the comment CA made in an jailhouse visit: "we forgive you for anything you said" to which Casey replies "don't worry I didn't say anything". I beleive that CA & GA are standing behind their daughter because they are aware of what Casey may be saying and planning to say and they are trying to 'head her off' when the trial starts. Thus the "we love our daughter unconditionally" tour. CA wants to make sure that when all is said and done, she will be able to say that she is not the person that Casey and her defense are trying to sell afterall, she is her daughter's biggest supporter!

I agree with the posters here that say that CA is all about CA. CAYLEE has been an afterthought from the moment CA realized their life was an open book. Sad but true....
All this is JMO of course....

[margaritaville]

I noticed how Cindy was made up as well...she doesn't seem to be too depressed, looking at how she appeared...She gives me the impression that George better keep an eye on her...she seems to get too friendly around men if you noticed.....guess Casey got that honestly as well....

C'mon she is just "ugly coping" thats all...
It is not unusual for woman who have lost a family member to doll themselves up and start partying and sleeping around...
Cindy lost her GD, FGS...Cut her some slack here people....It's Okay for her to be too friendly... Ugly coping, ugly coping, ugly coping.....

they really do have an excuse for EVERYTHING!!!

MOO

[Dells]

Hiya Dells :seeya:

No.... I respectfully disagree, because I have seen it. It's the conversation where Casey says (and I'm paraphrasing) - when asked why would you lie to me (your boyfriend) - Casey responds with some to the effect that she's been lying to everyone for the last 31 days. When asked about that she's says something to the effect of "didn't want to tell everyone that Caylee was with a crazy or psycho Nanny."

Does that jog anyones mind? I think there are some important clues in that exchange, but I just cannot find the OC's (but have seen it before).

If anyone sees westsidejoe, I was told he was up on these things. I don't know.l

But for the life of me I cannot find it.

Oh, you're right. I remember that now too. Time to get another cup of coffee and unclog my foggy brain.:blushing: I am so glad we have so many of us following this case because I can't keep all this information straight.

[MiamiNice1]

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you! The TH's on the talk show circuit last night all basically said the same thing. Even the TH's that are always so pro defense were saying how much George and Cindy are hurting Casey's case. All the TH's were just basically shaking their heads in disgust whenever a clip of the George and Cindy LKL interview was being played.

I loved on Prime News y-day on HLN how Mark Eiglarsh referred to George and Cindy and blind and blinder.:laugh: He was so right. They just have no clue how much damage they are doing. I thought it was interesting also how one of the TH's on JVM's show (I think it was Wendy Murphy) said that George and Cindy are hurting a possible COV for this case by appearing on TV and giving these interviews. She was so spot on w/that assessment!

Also, Pam Bondi appeared on Prime News last night and I just love her. It is a personal treat for me whenever she is one of the TH's on these shows because you just know you are going to get honest and straight answers w/her. She is like one of the only voices of reason in this case. She said that she personally knows Brad Conway and that he is a good and ethical attorney (paraphrasing). I really respect her so I really took notice when she said this. I think BC has done a horrible job in taming the George and Cindy two headed monster, and if she thinks so highly of him, I wish she would talk to him and tell him what an IDIOT he is currently making of himself w/his representation of The Anthony's. If he can't tame them and get them to listen to him, then it is time for him to cut ties w/them just like Mark NeJame did. After all, it is his reputation on the line here. I know the publicity that this case is creating is enticing, but he has to remember that he is going to be an attorney long after this dog and pony show is over and that he needs to do what he can to try to salvage his career and reputation.

Personally, I don't think this case is worth it for any of the attorney's involved. Many of them are making fools of themselves and only hurting their credibility in the process.

This is a great post, Dells!

Last night's JVM was one of the best I've seen. Wendy Murphy said exactly this (when she wasn't screaming at Lenamon telling him he was "ridiculous!" lol!)....

"These parents are giving the judge every reason to say, 'NO WAY, JOSE!' to a change of venue."

imo

[Daffodil]

Cindy is not protecting Casey, she is not fighting to remember Caylee...she is doing everything to protect her self image, to gather sympathy for her plight, to show the world what a wonderful, loving, caring person she is....

This stopped being about Casey or more importantly, Caylee very early on.


I agree that it is not about Casey, but all about Cindy. She has to do everything she can to keep the big secret safe. It's got to be one big secret.

[MiamiNice1]

Very true, very few of Casey's friends said anything negative about her actions as mother, the closest to critizing her was Amy with regard to having Caylee around when they were partying. THe most vocal critic of Casey as a mother was Cindy.. Maybe she is feeling guilty now and trying to spin it.
True that Casey's friends didn't have anything negative to say about Casey's mothering......because.....WHEN did they ever see her alone with Caylee? Caylee was always at the Nanny or she was sleeping through the parties or if awake, Casey was in party mode.

That argument of Cindy's is another full of baloney fantasy!

IMO

[Dick Tracy]

Last night I went to the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website and contacted the Anthonys. I said, "I will make a donation in Caylee's name to Texas Equasearch as I know that organization will use it honourably in finding missing children."

This morning I woke up to find a message from Cindy in my inbox. :scared: She wrote, "I'm sure they will be grateful."

I feel so speshul to now have Cindy in my address book. :w00t: If anyone feels so inclined, this is her addres: cindy@dgator.com


Morning Annie!

Did you visit that website that Cindy's email is at? It's www.dgator.com (http://www.dgator.com) It's some kind of PI firm. Has this been discussed?

[101Spots]

Morning Annie!

Did you visit that website that Cindy's email is at? It's www.dgator.com (http://www.dgator.com) It's some kind of PI firm. Has this been discussed?

That's Dominic Casey's firm, his website.

Interesting, yes? Cindy hasn't paid him, but is looping her email through his site.

[kellabeck]

Just catchin' up. Watching my DVR'd LKL---

GA said he couldn't talk to Casey [to ask what everything was about]...

WHAT ABOUT WHEN SHE WAS OUT ON BAIL?

At another point LK asks CA is she killed Caylee.
Yes.
What did she say?
No.

CA: "We haven't done anything..."

EXCEPT LIE AND OBSTRUCT.

CA said they don't understand why the public is angry at them.

BECAUSE WE SEE TWO SIDES: THE INNOCENT VICTIM (CAYLEE) AND THE KILLER (CASEY) AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN THE KILLER.

[kellabeck]

Ooh, ooh. CA and GA did allude to the time when Casey was out on bail but they don't explain why the heck they didn't talk to her, if they didn't.

[Daffodil]

Great post, and very good thoughts!:thumbup: I also think Cindy is continually getting a dig into Casey w/her unwavering love and support. I am sure that Casey probably thought that by now her parents would surely have abandon her for murdering Caylee, and yet here they are standing by her like superglue no matter what she does. Even though Casey won't visit w/her parents , they are still sticking by her and trying to protect her. Casey probably doesn't know where to direct her anger to now because she was probably planning on blaming everything on her parents once they abandoned her. Heck, she probably is still blaming them anyway, but I am sure she is somewhat confused by them. Maybe even more confused than the rest of us are because she knows them so well.

I think Cindy is out there telling the world that she believes her daughter is innocent so that when Casey spills the beans about life on Hopespring Drive everyone will think that Casey is lying. Therefore, I think it is Cindy who is the one making the decision to not visit Casey because Casey might blurt out the truth.

Instead she probably sends love notes to Casey. How are they being delivered anyhow? Anyone know if it is legal for JB to deliver the letters back and forth?


.

[Xmygrits]

Ooh, ooh. CA and GA did allude to the time when Casey was out on bail but they don't explain why the heck they didn't talk to her, if they didn't.

The real reason they did not talk to Casey about Caylee while she was home on bail is because they suspected the house was bugged. (It was).

[Daffodil]

I think Baez is still wanting to control the process and no self respecting DPQ lawyer is going to want to have the strategy dictated to him/her. I am sure that a DPQ lawyer would work to reduce her sentence since there is a lot of evidence to support conviction. I would see that lawyer approaching LE with a plea deal. Only problem is that Casey will never admit guilt. Only way is if they get it down to 2nd degree or involuntary manslaughter so she has a chance at parol. I could see Caylee inadvertantly getting overheated in a car while Casey was having a hizzy fit. It was June and hot.



But what about the duct tape? What about the fun time she had with Tony for 31 days? It was not an accident.

When does JB have to let the court know who the DPQ laeyer is?

[frances1]

I think Cindy is out there telling the world that she believes her daughter is innocent so that when Casey spills the beans about life on Hopespring Drive everyone will think that Casey is lying. Therefore, I think it is Cindy who is the one making the decision to not visit Casey because Casey might blurt out the truth.

Instead she probably sends love notes to Casey. How are they being delivered anyhow? Anyone know if it is legal for JB to deliver the letters back and forth?


.

It is my understanding that it is not allowable for Baez and his client to bypass the mail system at the jail. I think everyone knows he is doing this, and why this hasn't been stopped I do not know. There has to be a way to challenge him on this.

[Tracian]

I still wish someone would ask George why he said they had the kidnappers under surveillance, and knew that Caylee was being moved every few days


I know I harp on this statement, but it bugs me for a few reasons:

1. It was said early on in this investigation, and it was a blatant lie.
2. Even after saying this, the A's still were 'following up on sightings'...Why? If they were watching the kidnappers, why would they need to follow up on sightings?
3. The never told LE, or the FBI this information.


It just makes no sense, IMO, out of all the things the A's have said, this is just beyond bizarre; why would the public continue to search for a child that was already 'found' and her kidnappers being watched?

Was this for added 'drama'? Was it to attempt to make the media back off? Was it meant to annoy or simply to once again mislead the investigation?

Does anyone have any idea why George would say something so ridiculous?

[summer4meplz]

I haven't seen it. Is there a transcript you could point me towards? (if it's video, nm, can't watch on this :cursing: 'puter. Tia.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk&feature=channel_page

you will really enjoy this....:thumbsup:

stupid me...i just saw your "can't be video"...sorry...so sorry...no transcript that I know of....borrow someone's computer...this is a MUST see....

[MiamiNice1]

Cindy practically spelled out the defense last night,,,"She's only a kid she just turned 23, she was coping and grieving as well as she could, she only partied one night while her child was missing"

She must have met with Jose beforehand. I wonder if George knows she having contact with JB. I don't think Geo likes him.
The best part of JVM last night was at the beginning - JVM played a taped conversation between Casey and Lee, where Casey is BSing him, telling him she "feels in her gut" that Caylee is "OK....."

So JVM said - If Casey felt Caylee was OK at that time, then why/how could she be "grieving" her while she was out dancing? She felt Caylee was OK.

JVM put the kibosh on the "ugly coping" argument!

imo

[Tracian]

Cindy practically spelled out the defense last night,,,"She's only a kid she just turned 23, she was coping and grieving as well as she could, she only partied one night while her child was missing"

She must have met with Jose beforehand. I wonder if George knows she having contact with JB. I don't think Geo likes him.



'grieving' now that is interesting, because if we look back, Casey thought Caylee was alive with Zanny....what was she grieving about?

Remember after her arrest:

"I know in my gut she is okay" (paraphrased)

[summer4meplz]

It is my understanding that it is not allowable for Baez and his client to bypass the mail system at the jail. I think everyone knows he is doing this, and why this hasn't been stopped I do not know. There has to be a way to challenge him on this.


if the anthonys were smart...which I don't think they are...they would have been sending allowable letters too.....

[Xmygrits]

It is my understanding that it is not allowable for Baez and his client to bypass the mail system at the jail. I think everyone knows he is doing this, and why this hasn't been stopped I do not know. There has to be a way to challenge him on this.

I suspect the reason several folks related to this case that are willfully breaking/bending laws/rules are not being pursued at the moment because the State has all hands, eyes, ear, fingers and toes on deck working feverishly to gain the one most important conviction...after this has been accomplished there may be additional charges.

[Tracian]

The best part of JVM last night was at the beginning - JVM played a taped conversation between Casey and Lee, where Casey is BSing him, telling him she "feels in her gut" that Caylee is "OK....."

So JVM said - If Casey felt Caylee was OK at that time, then why/how could she be "grieving" her while she was out dancing? She felt Caylee was OK.

JVM put the kibosh on the "ugly coping" argument!

imo



JINX!!!!!

:lol:

GMTA!!!

[MiamiNice1]

JINX!!!!!

:lol:

GMTA!!!
:laugh: - JINX! I was laughing, too!

[KittyMom]

I suspect the reason several folks related to this case that are willfully breaking/bending laws/rules are not being pursued at the moment because the State has all hands, eyes, ear, fingers and toes on deck working feverishly to gain the one most important conviction...after this has been accomplished there may be additional charges.

From your fingers to God's monitor. :thumbsup:

[spiritwolf46]

Last night I went to the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website and contacted the Anthonys. I said, "I will make a donation in Caylee's name to Texas Equasearch as I know that organization will use it honourably in finding missing children."

This morning I woke up to find a message from Cindy in my inbox. :scared: She wrote, "I'm sure they will be grateful."

I feel so speshul to now have Cindy in my address book. :w00t: If anyone feels so inclined, this is her addres: cindy@dgator.com

OMG! LOLOLOL!!!! That is AWESOME AnniePooh!

[Dick Tracy]

That's Dominic Casey's firm, his website.

Interesting, yes? Cindy hasn't paid him, but is looping her email through his site.

Velly Intlesting. Indeed. He's been out of the loop for awhile, and she still has an email account on his host server. I wonder if George's email is george@dgator.com as well.

[Daffodil]

O/T response: The reporting of this is confusing, but I found the truth I think. Chrysler is closing 789 dealerships. GM is planning to not renew 1,100 franchises when their contracts are up in Sept. 2010.

This may have already been addressed...I'm way behind as usual.

Thanks Sofiesmom. I got it figured out also. I am still trying to catch up also.

[jakee]

The real reason they did not talk to Casey about Caylee while she was home on bail is because they suspected the house was bugged. (It was).

I wondered if their house was bugged but didn't know it was for sure. Have any conversations while being bugged come out, or did they never speak and just write notes to each other? How did I not know this info? lol

Also, didn't the woman who worked for Lenny claim that George did confront Casey about Caylee and they had a huge fight? Will we ever see her depositions? She has been questioned correct?

[bchand]

Last night I went to the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website and contacted the Anthonys. I said, "I will make a donation in Caylee's name to Texas Equasearch as I know that organization will use it honourably in finding missing children."

This morning I woke up to find a message from Cindy in my inbox. :scared: She wrote, "I'm sure they will be grateful."

I feel so speshul to now have Cindy in my address book. :w00t: If anyone feels so inclined, this is her addres: cindy@dgator.com

Oh Annie- I wish you had phrased it more like "I will make a donation to Texas Equusearch in Caylee's name as I know your family cost that honorable organization thousands of dollars that could have been used to find a real missing child."

Since she still has access to Domenic's email, I assume there is no falling out between them.

[Tornado]

It is a common pastime of attorneys in cases we read or hear about to imagine the arguments we would make. Heck, when sitting on motion day I often want to go and whisper an argument in another attorneys ear. I always discuss my thoughts about my own cases with other attorneys. I also used to present things to my grandmother because I considered her an average juror. I think it makes one a better attorney to pick the brains of people I trust.

I believe a new attorney could come in and completely change the course of the defense but only if JB steps aside. He/she would not be bound by anything JB has said or done outside of the courtroom. He/she may even be able to reverse things done in the courtroom by arguing that JB's incompetence should not be held against the client and it may avoid an appeal later.

JMO

TY- does JB really have a choice whether to step aside or not to?

Also I asked this before but have not seen where it was answered- is the defense under a time limit to name a DP attorney?

[Dells]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19464687/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A glimpse into the life of Casey Anthony one year ago shows interesting details of what her life was like before her daughter disappeared.

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya: Oh, how I bet Casey wishes she could back a year and do it all over again...

[MiamiNice1]

TY- does JB really have a choice whether to step aside or not to?

Also I asked this before but have not seen where it was answered- is the defense under a time limit to name a DP attorney?
The only thing I know is that there is a court date of May 28th to answer the Prosecution's motion for Jose to name the DP attorney. I don't know what would happen if by that time he couldn't name one?

[Dick Tracy]

I still wish someone would ask George why he said they had the kidnappers under surveillance, and knew that Caylee was being moved every few days


I know I harp on this statement, but it bugs me for a few reasons:

1. It was said early on in this investigation, and it was a blatant lie.
2. Even after saying this, the A's still were 'following up on sightings'...Why? If they were watching the kidnappers, why would they need to follow up on sightings?
3. The never told LE, or the FBI this information.


It just makes no sense, IMO, out of all the things the A's have said, this is just beyond bizarre; why would the public continue to search for a child that was already 'found' and her kidnappers being watched?

Was this for added 'drama'? Was it to attempt to make the media back off? Was it meant to annoy or simply to once again mislead the investigation?

Does anyone have any idea why George would say something so ridiculous?

Good Morning Tracian :seeya:

A very bizarre twist indeed. But also an obvious lie. He may have had what he thought was the "real kidnapper" under surveillance (ie., Jessie Grund, or Ann Dowd, or the Huizenga chick)..

If he KNEW that the kidnappers were moving Caylee every few days, why didn't his team of PI's notify police, so that they could watch the perps under surveillance and GET CAYLEE when they MOVED HER?

The courtroom, wherever this trial goes, is going to be great theatre. Man, I hope this case is televised. And I hope they are timely getting the testimony out like they did with the Simpson case.

[CelticDawn]

Hi spirit - welcome back. Did you watch the Ant's on LKL?

Yall know....I was not going to watch that mess....but I was at my aunt and uncles and they were religiously watching LKL....anyway HOW MANY TIMES DID THE THREE BUFFOONS SAY "ABSOLUTELY!" That really got to me ...everytime I heard ABSOLUTELY I wanted to barf !!!!

[Tornado]

Bolding mine
This is where I think the war really is. I believe the "aha moment" that JB is talking about is going to be something about Casey's life at home. Possibly painting her family as abandoning her in some way or her needing protection from them (in comes the search for self defense). Remember the comment CA made in an jailhouse visit: "we forgive you for anything you said" to which Casey replies "don't worry I didn't say anything". I beleive that CA & GA are standing behind their daughter because they are aware of what Casey may be saying and planning to say and they are trying to 'head her off' when the trial starts. Thus the "we love our daughter unconditionally" tour. CA wants to make sure that when all is said and done, she will be able to say that she is not the person that Casey and her defense are trying to sell afterall, she is her daughter's biggest supporter!

I agree with the posters here that say that CA is all about CA. CAYLEE has been an afterthought from the moment CA realized their life was an open book. Sad but true....
All this is JMO of course....


Ohhhhhh- I think you are so right. This is all about saving CA's butt and has nothing to do with KC. The Anthonys know that KC has not kept her mouth shut and the secrets are out - the A's know what is coming out in court. Don't think the secret is going to help her defense but it is going to gain her some sympathy.

[CelticDawn]

Good Morning Tracian :seeya:

A very bizarre twist indeed. But also an obvious lie. He may have had what he thought was the "real kidnapper" under surveillance (ie., Jessie Grund, or Ann Dowd, or the Huizenga chick)..

If he KNEW that the kidnappers were moving Caylee every few days, why didn't his team of PI's notify police, so that they could watch the perps under surveillance and GET CAYLEE when they MOVED HER?

The courtroom, wherever this trial goes, is going to be great theatre. Man, I hope this case is televised. And I hope they are timely getting the testimony out like they did with the Simpson case.

"don't go there" I can just hear george and cindy getting a contempt of court for that one

[Lapis]

TY- does JB really have a choice whether to step aside or not to?

Also I asked this before but have not seen where it was answered- is the defense under a time limit to name a DP attorney?

I know of time limit in the rules of court. However, I would expect that the court will inquire at the time of the hearing at the end of the month.

There seems to be some question as to the procedure. There are those that believe that the DP qualified attorney be on the team and available for the penalty phase of the case. There are those that believe that the DP qualified attorney must be first chair in the guilt and penalty phases. Judge Karen (who often appears on HLN) a former judge in Miami-Dade County is under the impression that the rules apply only to court appointed attorneys and not to privately retained attorneys.

The inquiry made at the time of the hearing by Judge Stickland should prove to be enlightening.

JMO

[Pam1569]

I think Cindy is out there telling the world that she believes her daughter is innocent so that when Casey spills the beans about life on Hopespring Drive everyone will think that Casey is lying. Therefore, I think it is Cindy who is the one making the decision to not visit Casey because Casey might blurt out the truth.

Instead she probably sends love notes to Casey. How are they being delivered anyhow? Anyone know if it is legal for JB to deliver the letters back and forth?


.

Hi Daffodil, I was thinking about the letters a little while ago. I do think that JB is OC's secretary when he comes and visits with his laptop. I think that he is transmitting e-mails to them from her. jmo

[Daffodil]

The real reason they did not talk to Casey about Caylee while she was home on bail is because they suspected the house was bugged. (It was).



And they could never state that on national tv. Why would an innocent person and her family have the house swept looking to see if it was bugged?

[Tracian]

Good Morning Tracian :seeya:

A very bizarre twist indeed. But also an obvious lie. He may have had what he thought was the "real kidnapper" under surveillance (ie., Jessie Grund, or Ann Dowd, or the Huizenga chick)..

If he KNEW that the kidnappers were moving Caylee every few days, why didn't his team of PI's notify police, so that they could watch the perps under surveillance and GET CAYLEE when they MOVED HER?

The courtroom, wherever this trial goes, is going to be great theatre. Man, I hope this case is televised. And I hope they are timely getting the testimony out like they did with the Simpson case.


Good morning to you as well :)

I also hope we will be able to watch this trial. I have to say this, when the A's get on the stand, it is going to be quite a challege to keep Cindy in line; she does not handle being confronted with her own words well.

[Daffodil]

It is my understanding that it is not allowable for Baez and his client to bypass the mail system at the jail. I think everyone knows he is doing this, and why this hasn't been stopped I do not know. There has to be a way to challenge him on this.



That's what I thought. I do hope LE is on top of this.

[Lapis]

That's what I thought. I do hope LE is on top of this.

Up to this point there has only been speculation. Cindy's statement on LKL may just provide them with the ammunition they need for a search warrant. They will probably check to see if the letters are going throught the normal mail channels and if not..... JMO

[Dells]

This is a great post, Dells!

Last night's JVM was one of the best I've seen. Wendy Murphy said exactly this (when she wasn't screaming at Lenamon telling him he was "ridiculous!" lol!)....

"These parents are giving the judge every reason to say, 'NO WAY, JOSE!' to a change of venue."

imo

Yes, I agree. JVM had a wonderful show last night! That line by Wendy Murphy was priceless! I really like her too, almost as much as I like Pam Bondi.:wub:

[margaritaville]

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya: Oh, how I bet Casey wishes she could back a year and do it all over again...


YW... And I bet she does too...
I keep thinking about that diary page that she wrote...
Wonder what she would write now after spending this long in jail, and a trial for her life coming....she threw it all away for 31 days of freedom from "that child" or the "snot head"....hope it was worth it.....

- I have no regrets, just a bit worried. I just want for everything to work out okay. I completely trust my own judgement & know that I made the right decision. I just hope that the end justifies the means. I just want to know what the future will hold for me. I guess I will soon see

-- This is the happiest that I have been in a very long time. I hope that my happiness will continue to grow

-- I've made new friends that I really like. I've surrounded myself with good people -- I am finally happy. Let's just hope that it doesn't change.

[♫Rock*Star♫]

snipped with respect

Does anyone have any idea why George would say something so ridiculous?

His last name is Anthony?

He's married to Cindy Anthony?

He's covering up for his murdering daughter?

All of the above. Definitely.

[Dells]

I agree that it is not about Casey, but all about Cindy. She has to do everything she can to keep the big secret safe. It's got to be one big secret.

Bolding mine...

Yes it does. But what could be worse than your own daughter murdering her own child, your granddaughter?!?:scared:

[Daffodil]

Good Morning Tracian :seeya:

A very bizarre twist indeed. But also an obvious lie. He may have had what he thought was the "real kidnapper" under surveillance (ie., Jessie Grund, or Ann Dowd, or the Huizenga chick)..

If he KNEW that the kidnappers were moving Caylee every few days, why didn't his team of PI's notify police, so that they could watch the perps under surveillance and GET CAYLEE when they MOVED HER?

The courtroom, wherever this trial goes, is going to be great theatre. Man, I hope this case is televised. And I hope they are timely getting the testimony out like they did with the Simpson case.



Do you think George made that statement to be able to back up a later claim that the body was not there when Casey was out so someone had to put it there and now it makes Casey innocent?

[Dick Tracy]

Good morning to you as well :)

I also hope we will be able to watch this trial. I have to say this, when the A's get on the stand, it is going to be quite a challege to keep Cindy in line; she does not handle being confronted with her own words well.


Agreed.. She'll be asked "did you say this", and she'll say "yes, I did, but what I mean't was this............."

It wouldn't surprise me at ALL if George Anthony had a heart attack while on the the stand. He's a lemming. Don't ask me why, but I had a vision of him being taken out of the courtroom on a stretcher.

[CelticDawn]

Up to this point there has only been speculation. Cindy's statement on LKL may just provide them with the ammunition they need for a search warrant. They will probably check to see if the letters are going throught the normal mail channels and if not..... JMO

I'm sure that if there are physical letters they would have been discovered. although casey is in PC wouldn't she still be subjected to cell inspections? Unless Jose is using that laptop or a blackberry to pass on messages how would she get rid of them??

[Pam1569]

Up to this point there has only been speculation. Cindy's statement on LKL may just provide them with the ammunition they need for a search warrant. They will probably check to see if the letters are going through the normal mail channels and if not..... JMO

Hi Lapis, If JB is using the laptop to e-mail them he could easily do so. He wouldn't have to e-mail them he could just open his e-mail account and then e-mail another account that he has and when they come and visit him they could be given to them also or he could let them read it and the delete the message also. But I have never heard of a search warrant given to search the laptop of a lawyer for this. jmo

[Daffodil]

Ohhhhhh- I think you are so right. This is all about saving CA's butt and has nothing to do with KC. The Anthonys know that KC has not kept her mouth shut and the secrets are out - the A's know what is coming out in court. Don't think the secret is going to help her defense but it is going to gain her some sympathy.



Right now, I think Casey will keep the secret safe because she still thinks she will walk free. If she spills the beans now, then it is over for her..........it will also show her guilt. But, once she is convicted, she may use JB for appeal (if he is qualified or some other DPQ lawyer that she thinks is cute) and spill the beans then.

[Tracian]

With all the 'threats' that Cindy claims they have gotten via phone or email....has any of this been confirmed and/or reported to LE?

The reason I question the reports from the A's that they have been the victims of continuous threats is because reading back on the statements from Cindy's co-workers, and the emails exchanged between the family, it seems to me Cindy in a twisted way, enjoys being the topic of pity in regards to her situations.

1. She couldn't divorce George, because he would get 1/2 and support....so again she has to 'suffer' to protect her family.

2. She has to take care of Caylee, because Casey is a poor mother...but does not have the money to take legal action...so again she suffers quietly (not so much) because she has to protect her family.

3. She suffers through George's gambling away money, and not holding a job...

4. She suffers when Casey takes off with Caylee...blogs about this suffering on her myspace.

5. She suffers as she cannot see or grieve with her daughter...

6. She considers suicide, but cannot bring herself to do more than write notes, because she has to protect her family.

7. She supports Casey remaining silent, because she is protecting the family from the dangerous "THEM" and she too, cannot say all she knows...so she again suffers...

8. She lost a grandchild, and possibly her daughter...so again she suffers.

Then she claims an avalanche of threats are coming to the family...so yes, she suffers.....


Seems like a pattern of very self distructive behavior to me.

[Dick Tracy]

Do you think George made that statement to be able to back up a later claim that the body was not there when Casey was out so someone had to put it there and now it makes Casey innocent?

No I don't think so, but I could be wrong. I just don't think that GA is that smart... Heck, even on LKL he said he wasn't very intelligent anyway.

Someone else would have had access to the Anthony home while Caylee was missing, to get the duct tape, heart shaped sticker, trash bags, laundry bag.

George was just blowing smoke.

------------

I swear, Vincent Bugliosi could do this in a WEEK.

[Daffodil]

Hi Daffodil, I was thinking about the letters a little while ago. I do think that JB is OC's secretary when he comes and visits with his laptop. I think that he is transmitting e-mails to them from her. jmo



And, I am hoping there is someway to bug all of their computers and laptops without their knowledge so help convict her and them.

[Tracian]

Agreed.. She'll be asked "did you say this", and she'll say "yes, I did, but what I mean't was this............."

It wouldn't surprise me at ALL if George Anthony had a heart attack while on the the stand. He's a lemming. Don't ask me why, but I had a vision of him being taken out of the courtroom on a stretcher.


I agree, G is a lemming...I see him faking a heart attack if it gets to 'hot' for Cindy or him on the stand.


BTW...IMO, there is no way in Hades that they will put Casey on the stand.

[frances1]

Agreed.. She'll be asked "did you say this", and she'll say "yes, I did, but what I mean't was this............."

It wouldn't surprise me at ALL if George Anthony had a heart attack while on the the stand. He's a lemming. Don't ask me why, but I had a vision of him being taken out of the courtroom on a stretcher.

I cannot stand George's facial expressions. That thing he does where he makes his mouth a straight line, rolls his eyes upwards, shrugs and shakes his head 'no'. I just want to slap that stupid expression off of his face. It's as if he is trying to convey how clueless he is (and therefore blameless).

[♫Rock*Star♫]

according to the Anthony's what's worse is having other people think your daughter killed your granddaughter

According to Cindy, misplacing a cellphone or car keys can cause one to be as panicked as misplacing a two year old child.

[Daffodil]

Good morning to you as well :)

I also hope we will be able to watch this trial. I have to say this, when the A's get on the stand, it is going to be quite a challege to keep Cindy in line; she does not handle being confronted with her own words well.

Here's one way to cut her off: After she gives the yes or no answer (if she even does that) they could cut out her microphone while she is in a secluded room outside of the actual court.

[Daffodil]

Up to this point there has only been speculation. Cindy's statement on LKL may just provide them with the ammunition they need for a search warrant. They will probably check to see if the letters are going throught the normal mail channels and if not..... JMO



Let's hope that their appearance on LKL did so some good after all.

[Dells]

True that Casey's friends didn't have anything negative to say about Casey's mothering......because.....WHEN did they ever see her alone with Caylee? Caylee was always at the Nanny or she was sleeping through the parties or if awake, Casey was in party mode.

That argument of Cindy's is another full of baloney fantasy!

IMO

So true! To add to that, all of Casey's friends were extremely young like her, and none of them were parents themselves to boot. They really had nothing to compare Casey's mothering skills to. Plus, like you said, they hardly ever saw Casey and Caylee together anyway, especially since Caylee went missing shortly after Casey befriended this latest unsuspecting group of people.

And Cindy is such a liar. She wanted to get custody of Caylee because she herself thought Casey was irresponsible and an unfit mother. She also told some of Casey's friends to stay away from her because she thought Casey was a sociopath. So, yes Cindy, people did have something to say about Casey and what type of mother she was. Namely YOU.:sneaky: