Thursday May 14, 2009 # 2 Caylee Anthony

[StickyBeak]

New Thread for the Evening

[aproudmom]

Thanks for the new thread SB
got to run and watch H*lls kitchen..

[StickyBeak]

Darn, missed NG will catch her later, thought for sure there would be BombShell. Then again different network.
I would love to know LK's reaction after last night interview. Did the A's agree to a 2 part interview? Larry if you reading, can you give us a hint! LOL :sneaky:

[AMS]

Darn, missed NG will catch her later, thought for sure there would be BombShell. Then again different network.
I would love to know LK's reaction after last night interview. Did the A's agree to a 2 part interview? Larry if you reading, can you give us a hint! LOL :sneaky:

Hey Sticky - thanks for the new thread. NG did not cover the case at all tonight.

[StickyBeak]

Hey Sticky - thanks for the new thread. NG did not cover the case at all tonight.

TY, NG.. Really! Holy Smokes, do you think she feels slighted? I did notice last night she actually covered other cases she has totally ignored.

[AMS]

TY, NG.. Really! Holy Smokes, do you think she feels slighted? I did notice last night she actually covered other cases she has totally ignored.

She covered about 4 cases tonight. Probably tomorrow she will have the BOMBSHELL that the A's were on LKL :wink:

imo

[eagleeer]

Darn, missed NG will catch her later, thought for sure there would be BombShell. Then again different network.
I would love to know LK's reaction after last night interview. Did the A's agree to a 2 part interview? Larry if you reading, can you give us a hint! LOL :sneaky:

After the huge loss in his ratings last night, I think that LK may rethink ever talking to the A's again.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

[sunstar]

TY, NG.. Really! Holy Smokes, do you think she feels slighted? I did notice last night she actually covered other cases she has totally ignored.

I actually am glad to see her covering other cases. I've seen Casey's jail visit with her parents and GA/CA depos so many times I practically have it memorized. :laugh:

[martha]

I can see what g and c or out for now and it is just money. I hope people will not give to their foundation. They or living awful well for them to not be working right now. I don;t really care if they keep on going on shows if they don;t get paid because I think they or hurting casey in the long run. I need to stop watching all these shows because one will say casey will get off and the other one will say no she will get prison. It really keep me tore up. We have to many lawyers given their op. I keep thinking we or talking about a sweet little girl her and they act like it is something elce we or talking about.I am just sick of all the talk. I just can;t keep from wanting to know what is going on but I can come here and all you good posters keep me up dated and I don;t get upset with you all.jmho:wub:

[martha]

I actually am glad to see her covering other cases. I've seen Casey's jail visit with her parents and GA/CA depos so many times I practically have it memorized. :laugh:
ITAW you I am just sick of seeing the same video and seeing g and c on tv. how many lies can they tell and bc is doing the same thing.just like jb is doing. jmho:wub:

[True2Blues]

After the huge loss in his ratings last night, I think that LK may rethink ever talking to the A's again.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

After being asked questions that weren't written by them, they probably won't come back anyway. Either way, I won't miss them. Though I admit I was wrong about LK yesterday.

[StickyBeak]

After the huge loss in his ratings last night, I think that LK may rethink ever talking to the A's again.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

Great site, Well, I was not going to watch LKL, just my curiosity got the best of me, glad I did. I feel that Caylee is truly an Angel now, what was the house like to grow up in, Thankfully Caylee only knew about sugar, spice and everything nice.
What the heck was Greata Talking about, she was one of the #1 before the elections. Is she going back to discussing crimes and the missing?

[ttcRider]

After being asked questions that weren't written by them, they probably won't come back anyway. Either way, I won't miss them. Though I admit I was wrong about LK yesterday.

I watched LK on his rerun and I too have to say I was totally surprised by his questioning. Even with them not answering all the questions he did a great job pissing them off! :laugh:

[True2Blues]

I watched LK on his rerun and I too have to say I was totally surprised by his questioning. Even with them not answering all the questions he did a great job pissing them off! :laugh:

Yes, he did! It was good for them.

[martha]

Yes I think lk did a good job. I bet they will not come on his show again. I don;t know of any show they will be on maybe gma because they don;t ask hard questions. I sure hope the irs checks into their foundation. I just know they or living out of it or how could they being buying new cloths and other things. bills have to be paid house note car payment light water video phone and they were not doing good when this started thans to casey and george.jmho

[StickyBeak]

I watched LK on his rerun and I too have to say I was totally surprised by his questioning. Even with them not answering all the questions he did a great job pissing them off! :laugh:

He was certainly in his game IMO. I wonder with the load of comments he received mostly negative, did he get a clue what he was up against, wonder if he had any inkling how people felt. Really interesting reading his early blogs then they turned it into Questions only for the A's.
Still would love to know if this was an original 2 part paid (contractual) excursion for the A's curtesly of CNN. Not that it matters, point well taken IMO. Hope Judge Strickland watched.

[ttcRider]

He was certainly in his game IMO. I wonder with the load of comments he received mostly negative, did he get a clue what he was up against, wonder if he had any inkling how people felt. Really interesting reading his early blogs then they turned it into Questions only for the A's.
Still would love to know if this was an original 2 part paid (contractual) excursion for the A's curtesly of CNN. Not that it matters, point well taken IMO. Hope Judge Strickland watched.

I dont think he had a choice on what direction to go with his questioning based soley on the negative comments he recieved on his blog. He knew he 'had to go there'. :thumbsup:
I feel sorry for Judge Strickland, he must be shakin his head.

[sunstar]

Yes I think lk did a good job. I bet they will not come on his show again. I don;t know of any show they will be on maybe gma because they don;t ask hard questions. I sure hope the irs checks into their foundation. I just know they or living out of it or how could they being buying new cloths and other things. bills have to be paid house note car payment light water video phone and they were not doing good when this started thans to casey and george.jmho

Even with the fees the media paid for rights to video, photos and whatnot it wouldn't take long to go through that money when you're not working and paying for lawyers. MOO

[Lavinia]

Brought over from the last thread:

Survivor: Orlando!

Next tribal council meets at 3:30 PM.......

Holy Moly if this isn't "Spot On", 101! :laugh::thumbsup: THERE'S your money idea!

[StickyBeak]

Even with the fees the media paid for rights to video, photos and whatnot it wouldn't take long to go through that money when you're not working and paying for lawyers. MOO

I was thinking the same, how the A's said Brad Conway is like their Confidant, they need him. Well, he must be getting a piece of the pie you would think! How the heck is he paying HIS bills, some Retainer IMO. Would BC be hired as legal council to the CEO of Caylee Foundation? Too much to consider for me. Is this Foundation Non Profit? How does it become that, you would need funds to start it? Office supply, etc. Guess I need Night Night,

[True2Blues]

Yes I think lk did a good job. I bet they will not come on his show again. I don;t know of any show they will be on maybe gma because they don;t ask hard questions. I sure hope the irs checks into their foundation. I just know they or living out of it or how could they being buying new cloths and other things. bills have to be paid house note car payment light water video phone and they were not doing good when this started thans to casey and george.jmho

I agree, I hope the IRS is dogging their every step.

[PROPROS]

I was thinking the same, how the A's said Brad Conway is like their Confidant, they need him. Well, he must be getting a piece of the pie you would think! How the heck is he paying HIS bills, some Retainer IMO. Would BC be hired as legal council to the CEO of Caylee Foundation? Too much to consider for me. Is this Foundation Non Profit? How does it become that, you would need funds to start it? Office supply, etc. Guess I need Night Night,Speaking of paying the bills...I have heard/read that The Anthonys owe Michelle Bart $17,000...So, that is $90,000 to Dominic Casey and (if true) $17,000 to Michelle Bart... I wonder if BC is getting paid "anything"....mo

[101Spots]

Isn't Conway pro bono, or am I mixed up? I get confuzzled easily between too many boards:rolleyes:

With all these lawyers and PIs working for "future considerations" I'm sure that the I, O, and U keys of all the legal typewriters in Orlando are worn out.

If you added up all the expected and hoped-for remuneration in this case, it would probably top eight figures. Boy, are they in for a surprise. All of 'em.

[Lavinia]

Isn't Conway pro bono, or am I mixed up? I get confuzzled easily between too many boards:rolleyes:

I think he is whether he knows it or not. :laugh:

[Lavinia]

With all these lawyers and PIs working for "future considerations" I'm sure that the I, O, and U keys of all the legal typewriters in Orlando are worn out.

If you added up all the expected and hoped-for remuneration in this case, it would probably top eight figures. Boy, are they in for a surprise. All of 'em.

Parties! I love surprise parties! :thumbsup:

[kanzz]

Something I said???
Where'd everybody go?
Sending Lenny out to search now.

I thought it was just me. whew! Oh well, I'm getting ready to call it a day anyway. Have a great evening.

[gaelicpeas]

Yes I think lk did a good job. I bet they will not come on his show again. I don;t know of any show they will be on maybe gma because they don;t ask hard questions. I sure hope the irs checks into their foundation. I just know they or living out of it or how could they being buying new cloths and other things. bills have to be paid house note car payment light water video phone and they were not doing good when this started thans to casey and george.jmho
You are so right, Martha. And not only that, G & C are showing up on all these shows looking like a million dollars in their new swanky clothes, suntans, jewelry, etc

The whole family makes me sick. JMO

[Oregongal]

Hi all :seeya:
I just posted on the last thread.
I had to be away for awhile and didn't realize how far ahead you all were til I saw the link for this new thread.
Time sure flies.
:biggrin:
Oh, and thanks SB for starting the new thread.

[gaelicpeas]

He was certainly in his game IMO. I wonder with the load of comments he received mostly negative, did he get a clue what he was up against, wonder if he had any inkling how people felt. Really interesting reading his early blogs then they turned it into Questions only for the A's.
Still would love to know if this was an original 2 part paid (contractual) excursion for the A's curtesly of CNN. Not that it matters, point well taken IMO. Hope Judge Strickland watched.IMO, I think LK read the negative comments about HIMSELF, and decided to go after the A's. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

I was thinking the same, how the A's said Brad Conway is like their Confidant, they need him. Well, he must be getting a piece of the pie you would think! How the heck is he paying HIS bills, some Retainer IMO. Would BC be hired as legal council to the CEO of Caylee Foundation? Too much to consider for me. Is this Foundation Non Profit? How does it become that, you would need funds to start it? Office supply, etc. Guess I need Night Night,
When you think about it, though, how much has Conway really had to do? It's not like he has to research legal opinions about cases. All he has really had to do is make half a dozen media appearances, and hope to almightly God that his clients don't incriminate themselves. I mean really, he hasn't had to do a lot of legal research or anything. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

Something I said???
Where'd everybody go?
Sending Lenny out to search now.lol... I felt the same on the last thread. But we are here... :smile:

[Oregongal]

TY, NG.. Really! Holy Smokes, do you think she feels slighted? I did notice last night she actually covered other cases she has totally ignored.

I don't think she feels slighted at all. After all JVM did cover the Ant's appearance on LKL quite thoroughly, even had Lennoman on. And it was talked about on Prime Time News by Mike G.
Nancy was covering the great news about the snatched little girl being found alive and the murder of the mom and her two little boys being murdered.
I kind of think they get together and decide who will cover what.
JVM covered the LKL/Ant appearance and Nancy covered the other cases.
Thank God neither of them spoke of Octo Mom. I'm so sick of hearing about her I could actually puke.

[101Spots]

Parties! I love surprise parties! :thumbsup:

Wait until you see what I have in my refrigerator for the party.

Er, make that wait until you smell what I have in my refrigerator for the party.

[Oregongal]

Something I said???
Where'd everybody go?
Sending Lenny out to search now.

No, no lizzie! I just got here.
I think some are still on the last thread. I posted over there in regard to anakeries blog then found my my post at the bottom of the page. Scrolled up and saw there was a new thread started.
Nothing you said darlin, but you can still send Lenny out to search for me.....:lol:

[Lapis]

When you think about it, though, how much has Conway really had to do? It's not like he has to research legal opinions about cases. All he has really had to do is make half a dozen media appearances, and hope to almightly God that his clients don't incriminate themselves. I mean really, he hasn't had to do a lot of legal research or anything. JMO

I think he had to do some prep of the Anthonys for thier depositions. Not that it took but I'm sure he has spent time with that. I think he also reads the docs and offers the Anthonys his opinion on them. Not that they listen but I'm sure he tries.

I thought it was very telling last night when he said that he didn't think there would be a problem with the Anthonys visiting the jail. I think he is trying to rehabilitate the Anthonys and place the blame where it belongs on Casey. I realise the Anthonys don't see it that way. Some of the things he says I know don't go over well on this board but he is correct. What we have seen is discovery and not evidence. I have cautioned often that alot of what we have seen will never be presented in court. I do believe that he is sincerely trying, he just doesn't have very good clients.

JMO

[Katprint]

Unconditional love is a crock. Who coined that phrase anyway? You love your kids because they are YOUR KIDS even if they are rotten people. Too bad, so sad, I don't care and I don't think it's heroic.
Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[101Spots]

I think he had to do some prep of the Anthonys for thier depositions. Not that it took but I'm sure he has spent time with that. I think he also reads the docs and offers the Anthonys his opinion on them. Not that they listen but I'm sure he tries.

I thought it was very telling last night when he said that he didn't think there would be a problem with the Anthonys visiting the jail. I think he is trying to rehabilitate the Anthonys and place the blame where it belongs on Casey. I realise the Anthonys don't see it that way. Some of the things he says I know don't go over well on this board but he is correct. What we have seen is discovery and not evidence. I have cautioned often that alot of what we have seen will never be presented in court. I do believe that he is sincerely trying, he just doesn't have very good clients.

JMO

He also doesn't have very good speaking/communication/PR skills, because he comes across as a sleaze extraordinaire. His personality does nothing to enhance the public persona of George and Cindy. The very first time we met him, he gave a statement about the remains found. It sounded pretty good, until he slammed Morgan by calling him "that firm that shall remain nameless." This was *after* Morgan had voluntarily deferred the deposition George and Cindy were scheduled to give at that time. Petty, petty, petty.

[Oregongal]

I think he is whether he knows it or not. :laugh:

LOL Lavinia!
He may think he'll be paid on a contingency basis. I hope he has a contract to that because if he doesn't, I think he'll be sh*t out of luck as far as being paid.
These Ant's aren't going to let loose with a dime they don't have to.
And that goes for Brad and Dominic and anyone else they have roped into their circle of representitives. Be they attorney, PI, or media rep.
If they don't have a signed contract with the Ant's, they will find themselves bankrupt at the end of this because the Ant's are going to keep it all for themseves.

[kanzz]

I think he had to do some prep of the Anthonys for thier depositions. Not that it took but I'm sure he has spent time with that. I think he also reads the docs and offers the Anthonys his opinion on them. Not that they listen but I'm sure he tries.

I thought it was very telling last night when he said that he didn't think there would be a problem with the Anthonys visiting the jail. I think he is trying to rehabilitate the Anthonys and place the blame where it belongs on Casey. I realise the Anthonys don't see it that way. Some of the things he says I know don't go over well on this board but he is correct. What we have seen is discovery and not evidence. I have cautioned often that alot of what we have seen will never be presented in court. I do believe that he is sincerely trying, he just doesn't have very good clients.

JMO

Did you watch Cindy's expression when he said that about Geo and Cindy visiting at the jail? It was subtle, but it was also very telling, imo.

[seeing_eye]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Wow, you are so right, Katprint! I daresay that not many of us would be on this board tonight if the Anthonys had stayed inside their house and kept their mouths shut. All of us would still be sympathizing for the grieving grandparents as we were in the beginning. Cindy thinks all the negativity towards her family is because "bloggers" are nit-picking. Well, we have been nit-picking all right - picking apart the many lies and showing that they are lies. Their attitude towards anyone outside their family has not helped to fend off the negative feelings toward them. Their efforts to thwart LE and direct suspicion towards innocent people was just the icing on the cake!

So you're right. If they had just kept their mouths shut very few people would even know who they are today. However, that probably would have prevented their new livlihood, a "non-profit" for missing children. I think I know which they would choose.

[Lavinia]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I have often thought about his KP. I don't doubt that 95% or more of us would be sympathetic to the nth degree toward the A's if they had done this whole thing with some kind of integrity. Does it matter what we think about what the elder A's have done wrong? Hell yes, IMO, as this swipes them all with the same brush. When it looks as though NO ONE is taking care of the baby's interests, without hidden agendas, look how people have risen in horror against the whole bunch of them. I could have been somewhat sympathetic with Casey even. People can be pretty forgiving if you're not constantly yanking their chains and trying to make fools of them.

I applaud what the Huckaby's have done. Humility would go along way for the A's, IMO.

[Lavinia]

LOL Lavinia!
He may think he'll be paid on a contingency basis. I hope he has a contract to that because if he doesn't, I think he'll be sh*t out of luck as far as being paid.
These Ant's aren't going to let loose with a dime they don't have to.
And that goes for Brad and Dominic and anyone else they have roped into their circle of representitives. Be they attorney, PI, or media rep.
If they don't have a signed contract with the Ant's, they will find themselves bankrupt at the end of this because the Ant's are going to keep it all for themseves.

Oh I see some fancy footwork with an accountant in the future, lol. I have no doubt the Milstead's have an accounting referral for them. :rolleyes:

[MrsHudson]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...
snipped for brevity......

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


Exactly. So they love their daughter. I don't care. As a juror I would not care either. I keep saying it but it's still true, parental love has not kept our jails from overflowing and it shouldn't. The last people to believe when it comes to accused person's guilt or innocence of
a crime is probably the parents of the accused. You can't expect objectivity. And most people know that. So why are the Ants STILL on TV all the damn time expecting, insisting that we admire them ? Why don't they get it that nobody wants to hear it anymore? Can you imagine how many letters and emails they get telling them to go the heck away?

Never saw anything like it in my life. But you bring up a good point about the Huckabees. Decent folks are out there. There is a proper way to handle such matters.

[gaelicpeas]

I think he had to do some prep of the Anthonys for thier depositions. Not that it took but I'm sure he has spent time with that. I think he also reads the docs and offers the Anthonys his opinion on them. Not that they listen but I'm sure he tries.

I thought it was very telling last night when he said that he didn't think there would be a problem with the Anthonys visiting the jail. I think he is trying to rehabilitate the Anthonys and place the blame where it belongs on Casey. I realise the Anthonys don't see it that way. Some of the things he says I know don't go over well on this board but he is correct. What we have seen is discovery and not evidence. I have cautioned often that alot of what we have seen will never be presented in court. I do believe that he is sincerely trying, he just doesn't have very good clients.

JMOI agree. My point was that Conway hasn't had to research a bunch of case law to defend his clients. He has mainly had to try to get them to, well, basically shut up, and he has been, well, reasonably successful at that. JMO

[8BellesFan]

No, no lizzie! I just got here.
I think some are still on the last thread. I posted over there in regard to anakeries blog then found my my post at the bottom of the page. Scrolled up and saw there was a new thread started.
Nothing you said darlin, but you can still send Lenny out to search for me.....:lol:

when he drops you off at the Walgreens, would you mind checking on my dog's prescriptions ?

[Pruddennce]

I think he had to do some prep of the Anthonys for thier depositions. Not that it took but I'm sure he has spent time with that. I think he also reads the docs and offers the Anthonys his opinion on them. Not that they listen but I'm sure he tries.

I thought it was very telling last night when he said that he didn't think there would be a problem with the Anthonys visiting the jail. I think he is trying to rehabilitate the Anthonys and place the blame where it belongs on Casey. I realise the Anthonys don't see it that way. Some of the things he says I know don't go over well on this board but he is correct. What we have seen is discovery and not evidence. I have cautioned often that alot of what we have seen will never be presented in court. I do believe that he is sincerely trying, he just doesn't have very good clients.

JMO

IMO he is incompetent. he is not trying, he is hitched to them because of potential dollars flowing his way down the road....

he should not be commenting on hair, skull and tape. but there he sits talking about it, providing false information. and then he bails on benign questions....is he unable to differentiate between what he should or should not say?

he appeared in public, independent of them, several times to deliver their messages to the public 'while they were supposedly grieving'.....he got in the media's face to talk about giving them their privacy when in reality no one was near their home or in their face AND no one was chasing him down.....

its obvious they are not on the same page.......however....

.....there is always a reason when someone becomes another person's lapdog.......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[gaelicpeas]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsGreat post, Katprint. It is clear that Casey's defense has an agenda... a money-making agenda, IMO.

[seeing_eye]

Great post, Katprint. It is clear that Casey's defense has an agenda... a money-making agenda, IMO.

Yes, it seems to me that Casey's defense team is in it for the publicity and the money that the publicity generates - despite how harmful it may be to their client.

In the same way, the Anthonys also seem to be in it for the puclicity and the money that the publicity generates -- and again despite how harmful it may be to their daughter.

[spiritwolf46]

IMO he is incompetent. he is not trying, he is hitched to them because of potential dollars flowing his way down the road....

he should not be commenting on hair, skull and tape. but there he sits talking about it, providing false information. and then he bails on benign questions....is he unable to differentiate between what he should or should not say?

he appeared in public, independent of them, several times to deliver their messages to the public 'while they were supposedly grieving'.....he got in the media's face to talk about giving them their privacy when in reality no one was near their home or in their face AND no one was chasing him down.....

its obvious they are not on the same page.......however....

.....there is always a reason when someone becomes another person's lapdog.......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I completely agree with this post! Very spot on!

[Pruddennce]

brought over.....

Here's the quote from the transcript, Blu - and I agree with you, she is poisoning the potential jury pool......telling them to "do the right thing." :angry:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

KING: You have a suspect in your mind. You seemed to indicate that, right? But you don't have proof about that suspect.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: Are you at all -- any air of optimism about this?

C. ANTHONY: Yes, I think if people do the right thing and they take the oath as a juror, and do the right thing and listen to the evidence, you know --

KING: So you have hope?

C. ANTHONY: Absolutely.

aside from that, they are back to 'having thoughts of another suspect'.....

did they move on from Amy and Ricardo.....back to Jesse? dig up a few other bunkmates of Casey's?

so, they are inching back to Cindy's insane thoughts of Z Equals this person or that person, Z is a code name for someone else...

IMO, Cindy is a psychopath. call me crazy, but its as if she is trying to top Casey's stories....SEE, I CAN MAKE SENSE OF YOUR STORY, YOU TOLD IT ALL WRONG! Ill be the one to solve the puzzle! but dont worry sweetheart, you wont be the culprit, Ill make this story fly!

she's whacked out. and IMO, a very dangerous person as well.

*footnote: referencing her first jailhouse call.....hard to distinguish who was more disturbed....Cindy championing herself the media darling and Casey wanting to talk to her boyfriend....

that call is what I want to hear in the courtroom BEFORE Cindy testifies.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

when you think about how Casey fed her all of these stories, she embraced them all and now is back to

[gaelicpeas]

Yes, it seems to me that Casey's defense team is in it for the publicity and the money that the publicity generates - despite how harmful it may be to their client.

In the same way, the Anthonys also seem to be in it for the puclicity and the money that the publicity generates -- and again despite how harmful it may be to their daughter.I agree. Of course, I have thought this from day 31 or day 1 or whatever. It has been my opinion from the beginning that this family was setting up a scam. I realize that most disagree with this. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

Gaelicpeas, if he's been reasonably successful, I'd hate to see him when he's a flop:ohmy:lol, true. But you have to consider who is clients are....

[gaelicpeas]

brought over.....



aside from that, they are back to 'having thoughts of another suspect'.....

did they move on from Amy and Ricardo.....back to Jesse? dig up a few other bunkmates of Casey's?

so, they are inching back to Cindy's insane thoughts of Z Equals this person or that person, Z is a code name for someone else...

IMO, Cindy is a psychopath. call me crazy, but its as if she is trying to top Casey's stories....SEE, I CAN MAKE SENSE OF YOUR STORY, YOU TOLD IT ALL WRONG! Ill be the one to solve the puzzle! but dont worry sweetheart, you wont be the culprit, Ill make this story fly!

she's whacked out. and IMO, a very dangerous person as well.

*footnote: referencing her first jailhouse call.....hard to distinguish who was more disturbed....Cindy championing herself the media darling and Casey wanting to talk to her boyfriend....

that call is what I want to hear in the courtroom BEFORE Cindy testifies.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

when you think about how Casey fed her all of these stories, she embraced them all and now is back toum, I am right with you, Pru, on this.

[ttcRider]

Its true, the more I see Cindy in action the more I wonder who is crazier!! :confused:
Who went crazy first Cindy or Casey? :laugh:

[aproudmom]

I actually am glad to see her covering other cases. I've seen Casey's jail visit with her parents and GA/CA depos so many times I practically have it memorized. :laugh:

ITA sun not just cause it is KC but there are families and cases I think need some attention also..and I thank NG for bringing those cases on and allowing families to ask for help the ones that appreciate it..heck they bash her on every show if I was her I would forget her their butts and move on she really has always felt bad for the Anthony's just not KC

[spiritwolf46]

brought over.....



aside from that, they are back to 'having thoughts of another suspect'.....

did they move on from Amy and Ricardo.....back to Jesse? dig up a few other bunkmates of Casey's?

so, they are inching back to Cindy's insane thoughts of Z Equals this person or that person, Z is a code name for someone else...

IMO, Cindy is a psychopath. call me crazy, but its as if she is trying to top Casey's stories....SEE, I CAN MAKE SENSE OF YOUR STORY, YOU TOLD IT ALL WRONG! Ill be the one to solve the puzzle! but dont worry sweetheart, you wont be the culprit, Ill make this story fly!

she's whacked out. and IMO, a very dangerous person as well.

*footnote: referencing her first jailhouse call.....hard to distinguish who was more disturbed....Cindy championing herself the media darling and Casey wanting to talk to her boyfriend....

that call is what I want to hear in the courtroom BEFORE Cindy testifies.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

when you think about how Casey fed her all of these stories, she embraced them all and now is back to

When they were asked about a possible suspect or if they knew who that might be, Cindy got a sickening SMIRK on her face!

OH HE77 YEAH she is still thinking about Jesse! There is not one doubt in my mind! She will throw that young man, or anyone else her evil mind can think of RIGHT under a bus.

No doubt about it! ;)

[Dick Tracy]

On all of these snippets of conversation that I see from last nights interview, I think it would be funny to have LKL have the LAST word -

Example:

KING: You have a suspect in your mind. You seemed to indicate that, right? But you don't have proof about that suspect.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: Are you at all -- any air of optimism about this?

C. ANTHONY: Yes, I think if people do the right thing and they take the oath as a juror, and do the right thing and listen to the evidence, you know --

KING: So you have hope?

C. ANTHONY: Absolutely.

KING: Weird.

or

KING: Now, we are amazed here, because we've received -- get this -- thousands of blog responses to your appearance here tonight. We'll be getting to some of them later. This is just a sample that I have in front of me of the blogs, if I can present these to you.

And, honestly, most of them are critical.

Why do you think people are angry at you?

CINDY ANTHONY, CAYLEE'S GRANDMOTHER: Because they don't understand. I mean a lot of people -- you know, they just -- they don't understand. They've never been in our shoes. So a lot of people -- especially bloggers. You know, they'll sit back and they like to pick things apart. And, you know, we're a target.

KING: But what are they picking apart?

CINDY ANTHONY: They're...

KING: What are you doing?

CINDY ANTHONY: They're picking apart the fact that we're standing behind our daughter. They're picking apart the fact that we are trying to make something out of Caylee's tragedy. And that's -- that's what it's all about.

KING: Weird.

MOO

[spiritwolf46]

Its true, the more I see Cindy in action the more I wonder who is crazier!! :confused:
Who went crazy first Cindy or Casey? :laugh:

I think that it was the "trickle down" effect.

[gaelicpeas]

Its true, the more I see Cindy in action the more I wonder who is crazier!! :confused:
Who went crazy first Cindy or Casey? :laugh:I have stated this numerous times on this forum.... I got involved in this case after listening to the call between Casey, Cindy, Lee, and the friend. Cindy sounded like Mommy Dearest to me from that movie... and I have not swayed from that since then. JMO

[Pruddennce]

Gaelicpeas, if he's been reasonably successful, I'd hate to see him when he's a flop:ohmy:

isnt that the truth....lol

he kept them away from the camera all of what, two weeks? and in between that time, he decides to do pressers ON THEIR BEHALF.....thats not silencing them......when his lips moved for those pressers, he morphed into Cindy......for me, he has melted into the woodwork with them....all the same hollow wood.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[8BellesFan]

:lol::lol:

what?????:biggrin:

He needs them. One for spironolact and one for benazepril. Lenny won't mind.....

[aproudmom]

Man I like HLN Prime News:thumbdown: Looks like FOX is getting all the ratings

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

[gaelicpeas]

Excellent point......I forgot:blushing:
oops.. I had a typo in my post that you quoted. But too late to edit it. It should have said "his".

[spiritwolf46]

isnt that the truth....lol

he kept them away from the camera all of what, two weeks? and in between that time, he decides to do pressers ON THEIR BEHALF.....thats not silencing them......when his lips moved for those pressers, he morphed into Cindy......for me, he has melted into the woodwork with them....all the same hollow wood.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

He will never EVER be able to rope them in. I am thinking that he is loving this publicity and that is the only reason that he took these vile UN-humans on.

Don't these attorneys get it? They are not getting fame! They are only being thought of as the mole suckers that they are. To me, they just sold their souls to the devil and will never come out of the hole that they just built for themselves.

Oh well. Ya mess with the devil, you pay.

[Oregongal]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I totally agree with everything you've said Kat. Especially the part I bolded.
The Ant's have and continue to behave badly. They have gone on this media tour, which is actually kicking them in the butt. And not truly helping Casey in the least. They need to stop this and keep their mouths shut. Their daughter who they claim to love and support so much is facing conviction and death. How many times will it take them to realize they are not helping her at all? Does Brad Conway say anything to them about this, or are they ignoring whatever advice he may give them?
I am beginning to think they are not on this media tour to support their daughter, they are out there flapping their mouths to sabbatage (sp? sorry) her defense. As well as trying to promote and beg for 'donation's'. Donations meaning in their mind, crap, look what we are going thru, give me, give me.
I don't see them loving Casey or Caylee in the way we think of as loving. I see them out for themselves. Yes, they are missing Caylee. But, honestly, I don't think they are missing her as 'normal' grandparents would be. I honestly don't think their idea of love is the same as most of ours is.
Caylee was a possesion. She was a little doll that they enjoyed and played with when all was good. They dressed her up, they took more pics than most parents take of their children, because most parents are just too busy and when those wonderful things happen they sit back or are part of those things, they are not rushing to grab that camera or video recorder to catch those moments. They are just participating and enjoying the moment. The memories are far more important than a catalogue of pics and vids.
Casey may have also just been a possesion. As long as she was doing what they wanted, being the perfect, beautiful little doll they loved her.
Unfortunantly, she grew up and caused them problems. Caylee comes along and they thought, wow, we have anothe little doll.
Casey was thrown aside and she saw Caylee as the reason. She committed the ultimate sin and took away from Cindy at least, the one thing that she/they cared for.
Casey demonstrating the hate she had festering within her for her mother/father because she was thrown away when Caylee was born.
She threw away 'that child' just as she felt thrown away.
This whole case comes down to how Casey was 'loved' and treated thru out her own life.
I know it doesn't excuse Casey in any way for what she has done. There, in my mind, is never a reason for a mother to kill her own child. But, being the psych interested person I am, I've had to look at the total picture of this family.
Cindy and George have no idea their part in this whole thing and they continue to do as they think they should do....claim love and support all over the media. They unfortunantly do not realize they are just going thru the motions. And they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing. Their bottom line agenda is for themselves. It's not for Caylee. It's not for Caylee. It's for themselves.
They think they are doing the right thing and get so angry when anyone points out they aren't. They don't have a clue that they are sociopaths themselves and can only react with anger and resentment when real people voice their real feeling and opinions.
George may not be a true socio, but he has hooked himself to one and obviously has a mental problem of his own to not be able to un hook himself and I can't help but say they, when I really mean Cindy. Unless he walks away from Cindy, I will continue to think and say they when I speak of the Ant's.
I know this is long, I'm sorry, but, I just had to get it off my chest.
I hope it makes some sense to some of you. If not, again, sorry.
This family has had me so totally fascinated for so long and last night's LKL appearance has brought back so many things I've been thinking on I just had to let loose.
If anyone has read all this...thank you and I appreciate it.
:wub:

[ttcRider]

I wonder what Rick thought of his sisters appearance last night...:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

I have stated this numerous times on this forum.... I got involved in this case after listening to the call between Casey, Cindy, Lee, and the friend. Cindy sounded like Mommy Dearest to me from that movie... and I have not swayed from that since then. JMO

my bolding
:scared:That is scary I still have nightmares over that movie..lol

[aproudmom]

I wonder what Rick thought of his sisters appearance last night...:biggrin:

do they even talk after all the emails between them and him posting on a blog or forum..I remember when he was on one trying to prove he was her brother..:biggrin:

[ttcRider]

do they even talk after all the emails between them and him posting on a blog or forum..I remember when he was on one trying to prove he was her brother..:biggrin:

I recall him saying they would go down as the worlds dumbest people or something?? haha He's probably ribbed everytime he goes out with the guys. LOL Soooo.. whats your crazy sister up to these days?? :laugh:

[aproudmom]

Worth bringing over from today's prior thread...

It is ironic that the Anthonys have convinced themselves that they are somehow helping Casey's defense with their "Willful Blindness" talk show tour. All they are doing is fanning the fire!

I cannot be the only person who has noticed that Melissa Huckaby, who has been accused of equally heinous crimes against poor little Sandra Cantu and whose prior criminal record is even worse than Casey's, has pretty much been dropped from the national media's reporting. Huckaby's parents said in essence, "We are shocked. We don't know what to think. We hope it isn't true." and then shut up instead of appearing on talk shows. Huckaby's attorney filed for a gag order - which was granted - instead of taking his own turn on the talk shows. Six months from now, we may hear about a quietly-negotiated plea bargain to something like involuntary manslaughter or even merely aggravated child abuse because the DA is probably not getting thousands of letters demanding that Huckaby face the death penalty.

Loving your child no matter what they do, does not require you to behave badly yourself. There is a difference between feelings and actions.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

my bolding

Kat I am outraged over my bolding part of your post I agree I have cried more over that case more than anyone I have followed..the big difference is there is a gag order so it has not been on TV for that reason not because it is not the most outrages horrible sick evil thing I have ever heard of..:cursing:

I hope she rots in H*LL

[gaelicpeas]

I totally agree with everything you've said Kat. Especially the part I bolded.
The Ant's have and continue to behave badly. They have gone on this media tour, which is actually kicking them in the butt. And not truly helping Casey in the least. They need to stop this and keep their mouths shut. Their daughter who they claim to love and support so much is facing conviction and death. How many times will it take them to realize they are not helping her at all? Does Brad Conway say anything to them about this, or are they ignoring whatever advice he may give them?
I am beginning to think they are not on this media tour to support their daughter, they are out there flapping their mouths to sabbatage (sp? sorry) her defense. As well as trying to promote and beg for 'donation's'. Donations meaning in their mind, crap, look what we are going thru, give me, give me.
I don't see them loving Casey or Caylee in the way we think of as loving. I see them out for themselves. Yes, they are missing Caylee. But, honestly, I don't think they are missing her as 'normal' grandparents would be. I honestly don't think their idea of love is the same as most of ours is.
Caylee was a possesion. She was a little doll that they enjoyed and played with when all was good. They dressed her up, they took more pics than most parents take of their children, because most parents are just too busy and when those wonderful things happen they sit back or are part of those things, they are not rushing to grab that camera or video recorder to catch those moments. They are just participating and enjoying the moment. The memories are far more important than a catalogue of pics and vids.
Casey may have also just been a possesion. As long as she was doing what they wanted, being the perfect, beautiful little doll they loved her.
Unfortunantly, she grew up and caused them problems. Caylee comes along and they thought, wow, we have anothe little doll.
Casey was thrown aside and she saw Caylee as the reason. She committed the ultimate sin and took away from Cindy at least, the one thing that she/they cared for.
Casey demonstrating the hate she had festering within her for her mother/father because she was thrown away when Caylee was born.
She threw away 'that child' just as she felt thrown away.
This whole case comes down to how Casey was 'loved' and treated thru out her own life.
I know it doesn't excuse Casey in any way for what she has done. There, in my mind, is never a reason for a mother to kill her own child. But, being the psych interested person I am, I've had to look at the total picture of this family.
Cindy and George have no idea their part in this whole thing and they continue to do as they think they should do....claim love and support all over the media. They unfortunantly do not realize they are just going thru the motions. And they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing. Their bottom line agenda is for themselves. It's not for Caylee. It's not for Caylee. It's for themselves.
They think they are doing the right thing and get so angry when anyone points out they aren't. They don't have a clue that they are sociopaths themselves and can only react with anger and resentment when real people voice their real feeling and opinions.
George may not be a true socio, but he has hooked himself to one and obviously has a mental problem of his own to not be able to un hook himself and I can't help but say they, when I really mean Cindy. Unless he walks away from Cindy, I will continue to think and say they when I speak of the Ant's.
I know this is long, I'm sorry, but, I just had to get it off my chest.
I hope it makes some sense to some of you. If not, again, sorry.
This family has had me so totally fascinated for so long and last night's LKL appearance has brought back so many things I've been thinking on I just had to let loose.
If anyone has read all this...thank you and I appreciate it.
:wub:great post, OG, and I completely agree.

[ttcRider]

Who wants to bet that now he's trying to prove he's not?:wink:

Thats what I'd be doing :ohmy:

[Katprint]

my bolding

Kat I am outraged over my bolding part of your post I agree I have cried more over that case more than anyone I have followed..the big difference is there is a gag order so it has not been on TV for that reason not because it is not the most outrages horrible sick evil thing I have ever heard of..:cursing:

I hope she rots in H*LL
I am sorry to have distressed you by bringing up the terrible Cantu/Huckaby case. My point was that Huckaby's defense attorney ASKED for a gag order whereas Casey Anthony's defense attorney OPPOSED the prosecution's request for a gag order, and that Huckaby's family have adopted a dignified silence in support of their daughter whereas Casey Anthony's family have been going on talk shows arguing that black is white, hot is cold and up is down.

If Melissa Huckaby had not asked for a gag order and/or had opposed any request by the prosecution for a gag order, there would (in all likelihood) be no gag order. Furthermore, her parents could not lawfully be forced to remain silent - they have a constitutional right to freedom of speech. My point was that they have collectively chosen the wiser path and that public opinion is probably not as strongly against them as it is against the Anthonys even though the charged crimes are at least as bad and arguably worse than what Casey has been charged with.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[seeing_eye]

I totally agree with everything you've said Kat. Especially the part I bolded.
The Ant's have and continue to behave badly. They have gone on this media tour, which is actually kicking them in the butt. And not truly helping Casey in the least. They need to stop this and keep their mouths shut. Their daughter who they claim to love and support so much is facing conviction and death. How many times will it take them to realize they are not helping her at all? Does Brad Conway say anything to them about this, or are they ignoring whatever advice he may give them?
I am beginning to think they are not on this media tour to support their daughter, they are out there flapping their mouths to sabbatage (sp? sorry) her defense. As well as trying to promote and beg for 'donation's'. Donations meaning in their mind, crap, look what we are going thru, give me, give me.
I don't see them loving Casey or Caylee in the way we think of as loving. I see them out for themselves. Yes, they are missing Caylee. But, honestly, I don't think they are missing her as 'normal' grandparents would be. I honestly don't think their idea of love is the same as most of ours is.
Caylee was a possesion. She was a little doll that they enjoyed and played with when all was good. They dressed her up, they took more pics than most parents take of their children, because most parents are just too busy and when those wonderful things happen they sit back or are part of those things, they are not rushing to grab that camera or video recorder to catch those moments. They are just participating and enjoying the moment. The memories are far more important than a catalogue of pics and vids.
Casey may have also just been a possesion. As long as she was doing what they wanted, being the perfect, beautiful little doll they loved her.
Unfortunantly, she grew up and caused them problems. Caylee comes along and they thought, wow, we have anothe little doll.
Casey was thrown aside and she saw Caylee as the reason. She committed the ultimate sin and took away from Cindy at least, the one thing that she/they cared for.
Casey demonstrating the hate she had festering within her for her mother/father because she was thrown away when Caylee was born.
She threw away 'that child' just as she felt thrown away.
This whole case comes down to how Casey was 'loved' and treated thru out her own life.
I know it doesn't excuse Casey in any way for what she has done. There, in my mind, is never a reason for a mother to kill her own child. But, being the psych interested person I am, I've had to look at the total picture of this family.
Cindy and George have no idea their part in this whole thing and they continue to do as they think they should do....claim love and support all over the media. They unfortunantly do not realize they are just going thru the motions. And they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing. Their bottom line agenda is for themselves. It's not for Caylee. It's not for Caylee. It's for themselves.
They think they are doing the right thing and get so angry when anyone points out they aren't. They don't have a clue that they are sociopaths themselves and can only react with anger and resentment when real people voice their real feeling and opinions.
George may not be a true socio, but he has hooked himself to one and obviously has a mental problem of his own to not be able to un hook himself and I can't help but say they, when I really mean Cindy. Unless he walks away from Cindy, I will continue to think and say they when I speak of the Ant's.
I know this is long, I'm sorry, but, I just had to get it off my chest.
I hope it makes some sense to some of you. If not, again, sorry.
This family has had me so totally fascinated for so long and last night's LKL appearance has brought back so many things I've been thinking on I just had to let loose.
If anyone has read all this...thank you and I appreciate it.
:wub:

I read it all - and agree with most of it.

[aproudmom]

Who wants to bet that now he's trying to prove he's not?:wink:

lol so true lizzie:thumbsup:

[aproudmom]

I am sorry to have distressed you by bringing up the terrible Cantu/Huckaby case. My point was that Huckaby's defense attorney ASKED for a gag order whereas Casey Anthony's defense attorney OPPOSED the prosecution's request for a gag order, and that Huckaby's family have adopted a dignified silence in support of their daughter whereas Casey Anthony's family have been going on talk shows arguing that black is white, hot is cold and up is down.

If Melissa Huckaby had not asked for a gag order and/or had opposed any request by the prosecution for a gag order, there would (in all likelihood) be no gag order. Furthermore, her parents could not lawfully be forced to remain silent - they have a constitutional right to freedom of speech. My point was that they have collectively chosen the wiser path and that public opinion is probably not as strongly against them as it is against the Anthonys even though the charged crimes are at least as bad and arguably worse than what Casey has been charged with.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

No I re read my reply and did not quote it right and I am very sorry for that..I totally agree with you..my bad and great point..

[Oregongal]

Oh I see some fancy footwork with an accountant in the future, lol. I have no doubt the Milstead's have an accounting referral for them. :rolleyes:

Fur sure!
Look how long the Milstead's have gone with all their 'money probs' and shams.
Years.
How is it that these people get away with all of this, when people like me are devastated and do not know what to do are suffering?

[Oregongal]

when he drops you off at the Walgreens, would you mind checking on my dog's prescriptions ?

I will Bell, I will.
:biggrin:

[Oregongal]

great post, OG, and I completely agree.

Thank you peas. And thank you for reading it.
:wub:

[Lavinia]

Fur sure!
Look how long the Milstead's have gone with all their 'money probs' and shams.
Years.
How is it that these people get away with all of this, when people like me are devastated and do not know what to do are suffering?

It doesn't seem fair OG, but I think you are far richer than these folks are, IMO. They *may* have money right now, but they are morally bankrupt. They may need that someday. :wink:

[Oregongal]

I read it all - and agree with most of it.

Thank you see. I would love to know what you didn't agree with. I'm curious and I'm always open and willing to learn from others. That's one of the reasons I'm here, I want to learn and hear others opinions and ideas.
I know I don't know it all. I also know that what I think is not what everyone thinks.
Please share your thoughts. And thank you again for reading it all.
:wub:

[aproudmom]

I totally agree with everything you've said Kat. Especially the part I bolded.
The Ant's have and continue to behave badly. They have gone on this media tour, which is actually kicking them in the butt. And not truly helping Casey in the least. They need to stop this and keep their mouths shut. Their daughter who they claim to love and support so much is facing conviction and death. How many times will it take them to realize they are not helping her at all? Does Brad Conway say anything to them about this, or are they ignoring whatever advice he may give them?
I am beginning to think they are not on this media tour to support their daughter, they are out there flapping their mouths to sabbatage (sp? sorry) her defense. As well as trying to promote and beg for 'donation's'. Donations meaning in their mind, crap, look what we are going thru, give me, give me.
I don't see them loving Casey or Caylee in the way we think of as loving. I see them out for themselves. Yes, they are missing Caylee. But, honestly, I don't think they are missing her as 'normal' grandparents would be. I honestly don't think their idea of love is the same as most of ours is.
Caylee was a possesion. She was a little doll that they enjoyed and played with when all was good. They dressed her up, they took more pics than most parents take of their children, because most parents are just too busy and when those wonderful things happen they sit back or are part of those things, they are not rushing to grab that camera or video recorder to catch those moments. They are just participating and enjoying the moment. The memories are far more important than a catalogue of pics and vids.
Casey may have also just been a possesion. As long as she was doing what they wanted, being the perfect, beautiful little doll they loved her.
Unfortunantly, she grew up and caused them problems. Caylee comes along and they thought, wow, we have anothe little doll.
Casey was thrown aside and she saw Caylee as the reason. She committed the ultimate sin and took away from Cindy at least, the one thing that she/they cared for.
Casey demonstrating the hate she had festering within her for her mother/father because she was thrown away when Caylee was born.
She threw away 'that child' just as she felt thrown away.
This whole case comes down to how Casey was 'loved' and treated thru out her own life.
I know it doesn't excuse Casey in any way for what she has done. There, in my mind, is never a reason for a mother to kill her own child. But, being the psych interested person I am, I've had to look at the total picture of this family.
Cindy and George have no idea their part in this whole thing and they continue to do as they think they should do....claim love and support all over the media. They unfortunantly do not realize they are just going thru the motions. And they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing. Their bottom line agenda is for themselves. It's not for Caylee. It's not for Caylee. It's for themselves.
They think they are doing the right thing and get so angry when anyone points out they aren't. They don't have a clue that they are sociopaths themselves and can only react with anger and resentment when real people voice their real feeling and opinions.
George may not be a true socio, but he has hooked himself to one and obviously has a mental problem of his own to not be able to un hook himself and I can't help but say they, when I really mean Cindy. Unless he walks away from Cindy, I will continue to think and say they when I speak of the Ant's.
I know this is long, I'm sorry, but, I just had to get it off my chest.
I hope it makes some sense to some of you. If not, again, sorry.
This family has had me so totally fascinated for so long and last night's LKL appearance has brought back so many things I've been thinking on I just had to let loose.
If anyone has read all this...thank you and I appreciate it.
:wub:

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Ogal this is a wonderful post and I agree with all of it so I am not going to snip it..

[Oregongal]

It doesn't seem fair OG, but I think you are far richer than these folks are, IMO. They *may* have money right now, but they are morally bankrupt. They may need that someday. :wink:

Awwww, >insert crying icon here< thank you darlin.
You are right. I am richer than the Ant's ever will be.
Look, I have you and everyone else here everyday for me.
Who do they really have? That someday will come for them, and they will have no one.
I am blessed beyond words.
:wub::wub:

[Oregongal]

<sorry not going to snip to good of a post>

Ogal this is a wonderful post and I agree with all of it so I am not going to snip it..

Thank you my friend.
Trying to keep my head from puffing up now. Can you pass me a pin to pop the pride balloon?
:tonguewag:
:wub:

[AlohaRainbow]

With all these lawyers and PIs working for "future considerations" I'm sure that the I, O, and U keys of all the legal typewriters in Orlando are worn out.

If you added up all the expected and hoped-for remuneration in this case, it would probably top eight figures. Boy, are they in for a surprise. All of 'em.
LOL! vanna, can we buy a vowel??

[aproudmom]

Thank you see. I would love to know what you didn't agree with. I'm curious and I'm always open and willing to learn from others. That's one of the reasons I'm here, I want to learn and hear others opinions and ideas.
I know I don't know it all. I also know that what I think is not what everyone thinks.
Please share your thoughts. And thank you again for reading it all.
:wub:

I have to say I agree with all of it since last night watching them not begging or even acting as if they cared the daughter they claim to love is on trial for DP and they are not out there searching for the real killer..I am not so sure they want her to get off...me and my mom was talking about this tonight we both felt it was about them and their image not Caylee or even KC..I do not think they killed Caylee but I do think they have a lot of blood on their hands..and no there is no way they are listening to BC if he approves of this he should not be practicing in the court of law..and if I were JB I would be talking to BC and telling him to keep their mouths shut I have never seen so many defense Lawyers outraged over them until today..they all say they need to SHUT THEIR MOUTHS they are only making it worse for their daughter but I am starting to think they do not care maybe this is the way to get back at her for taking caylee away from them..who knows with them...jmo of course

[Oregongal]

I've had a horrendously busy day and just as I was getting ready to cosy up to the computer after supper... our power went out for five hours! Do you realize how FEW things there are to do with no power? I do have a book, but I couldn't find it in the dark. :cursing:

Anyway, if anyone is still here (Night Owl Detective Agency?), I would love to talk about this case. I missed a lot today.

Yes, one member of the Night Owl Detective Agency here.
Sorry, I've forgotten the title DT gave me. I know you are Lead Detective....can you please remind me of my title?
Anyway, I'm sorry you lost power. I've had that happen a couple of times and instead of looking for a book I was trying to find my radio, which had no batteries and felt totally lost. So I do know how FEW things you can do with no power.
So happy to see you here now.
My puter is acting crazy tho, so who knows how long I will be here.
I wasn't reading all day, but most of all everyone has been talking about last nights LKL appearance of Cindy and George.
We, the 'evil bloggers' won, and they lost. BIG TIME.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

I think we can all be adults, and there can be "sharsies". :laugh:

Of course we can be sharsies, there's enough of him to go around.
:wink:

[aproudmom]

With all these lawyers and PIs working for "future considerations" I'm sure that the I, O, and U keys of all the legal typewriters in Orlando are worn out.

If you added up all the expected and hoped-for remuneration in this case, it would probably top eight figures. Boy, are they in for a surprise. All of 'em.

omg had to read it a few times before I finally got it lack of sleep I guess..but love it Spots..:thumbsup:

[enigma]

There's anothier thing that sticks out like a sore thumb...

Where is Caylee's father?

Yes, I know what the A's said... But he does have a family, right? Does anyone really think the A's would give a free pass to anyone while at the same time doing their darnedest to defend their daughter? Would they go to those lengths to let someone else off the hook, so to speak, when a name might take the heat off Casey? Or at least shift the focus for a while?

They tried Jesse Grund, but that didn't work, so they just gave up?

Was it a one-night stand that their daughter can't even remember? Then why try to place paternity on JG, but not on anyone else?

Wasn't it Cindy who said Casey told her she would have had to have sex in order to be pregnant, the implication being that she didn't, therefore she wasn't...?

But when it turned out that she was - pregnant - did they ask her who she had sex with, since by her own admission she had to have had sex to be pregnant?

And what did she say? sorry mom and dad, I don't know it was just some guy I knew? And he doesn't want anything to do with his child, so I'm going to protect him and his family? And they said - OK... ??

And when their granddaughter "disappears", they blame a nanny of their daughter's fabrication, but neve give a second thought to pursuing the father whose identity they guard so jealously even to this day?

Why?

JMHO

[aproudmom]

Isn't Conway pro bono, or am I mixed up? I get confuzzled easily between too many boards:rolleyes:

I have never heard him say he was pro bono..

[aproudmom]

sorry O/T anyone that is a Farrah F. fan her documentary is on tomorrow night..don't think she will be with us much longer..:crying:

[enigma]

Enigma, I think that Casey told G and C who the daddy was, but she might have lied. Gasp. I don't think she'd say that she slept around so much that she had no idea who he could be. They believed that heir "virginal" daughter couldn't possibly have had sex, so she would have blown their doors off if she'd ever told them that.

As someone said earlier today, I believe that as controlling as they are, they didn't want to let any "outsider" in to their family dynamics. I think they wanted Caylee to themselves and never let the true father even know that she existed.

Only my opinion, and I could change that at any moment.

Hi Annie, in this case, nothing is as it seems... :)

The reason I was wondering is because of the fund-raising and the bank-rolling that seem to somehow clash. One minute, they're raising funds, the next, they're buying a boat. I suppose they can say that's one of the reasons for their fund-raising.

There's also the matter of the benefactor who came in after Padilla. I can't help wondering who he/she is and what their reasons are. They're probably just people who want to help someone in need, but I can't help wondering.

Controlling as they may be, it seems they're willing to relinquish some of it, for their own reasons.

JMHO

[nothingnew]

Wait until you see what I have in my refrigerator for the party.

Er, make that wait until you smell what I have in my refrigerator for the party.

Huevos de Jorge??

[aproudmom]

Enigma, I think that Casey told G and C who the daddy was, but she might have lied. Gasp. I don't think she'd say that she slept around so much that she had no idea who he could be. They believed that heir "virginal" daughter couldn't possibly have had sex, so she would have blown their doors off if she'd ever told them that.

As someone said earlier today, I believe that as controlling as they are, they didn't want to let any "outsider" in to their family dynamics. I think they wanted Caylee to themselves and never let the true father even know that she existed.

Only my opinion, and I could change that at any moment.

I think once they knew it was not JG then they decided they just wanted her all to themself..I am sure KC has a idea who she was with around that time if she really wanted to know but I dont think her Mommy Dearest wanted that so they agreed to raise Caylee heck we all know she was not working and sure looked like she had plenty of toys and clothes..and KC did not seem like she went without either..

[seeing_eye]

Thank you see. I would love to know what you didn't agree with. I'm curious and I'm always open and willing to learn from others. That's one of the reasons I'm here, I want to learn and hear others opinions and ideas.
I know I don't know it all. I also know that what I think is not what everyone thinks.
Please share your thoughts. And thank you again for reading it all.
:wub:

OG, I reread your post again to find what I disagreed with and couldn't find it. So I guess I do agree with all of it after all. :crying:

[Dick Tracy]

There's anothier thing that sticks out like a sore thumb...

Where is Caylee's father?

Yes, I know what the A's said... But he does have a family, right? Does anyone really think the A's would give a free pass to anyone while at the same time doing their darnedest to defend their daughter? Would they go to those lengths to let someone else off the hook, so to speak, when a name might take the heat off Casey? Or at least shift the focus for a while?

They tried Jesse Grund, but that didn't work, so they just gave up?

Was it a one-night stand that their daughter can't even remember? Then why try to place paternity on JG, but not on anyone else?

Wasn't it Cindy who said Casey told her she would have had to have sex in order to be pregnant, the implication being that she didn't, therefore she wasn't...?

But when it turned out that she was - pregnant - did they ask her who she had sex with, since by her own admission she had to have had sex to be pregnant?

And what did she say? sorry mom and dad, I don't know it was just some guy I knew? And he doesn't want anything to do with his child, so I'm going to protect him and his family? And they said - OK... ??

And when their granddaughter "disappears", they blame a nanny of their daughter's fabrication, but neve give a second thought to pursuing the father whose identity they guard so jealously even to this day?

Why?

JMHO

Hey Hey...

bolding mine

I'm sure there was the general drama associated with the teenager finding out she's pregnant, and really not knowing but having an idea who the father might be. I bet she know's possibly who the father is, and you know what? He may be dead, because no one has come forward to say that they were Caylee's father. So the guy who fathered Caylee may be have had an accident and died. Funny though, they haven't managed to track down information on this guy.

[tinkerbell]

Hi,

Anyone still here?

[seeing_eye]

Hey Hey...

bolding mine

I'm sure there was the general drama associated with the teenager finding out she's pregnant, and really not knowing but having an idea who the father might be. I bet she know's possibly who the father is, and you know what? He may be dead, because no one has come forward to say that they were Caylee's father. So the guy who fathered Caylee may be have had an accident and died. Funny though, they haven't managed to track down information on this guy.

The guy might not have any idea he fathered a child. Won't be the first time that has happened.

[Dick Tracy]

Larry King: But, in fact, George, are you -- do you ever think you might be blinded by the fact that she's your daughter?

G. ANTHONY: I'm not blinded by anything. I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind. I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head that -- I'm pretty -- I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, but I can make up my own mind. I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things.

CINDY ANTHONY: I watched my daughter for nearly three years be the best mom. I mean she's loving and caring. And there's nobody that has come forward that said that Casey wasn't anything other than a loving mother.

KING: So there's no motive involved?

CINDY ANTHONY: There's no motive involved.

KING: Did you ever ask her if she did it?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

KING: And she says?

CINDY ANTHONY: No. And I believed her.

KING: Weird.

[crimeq]

I can't remember your title, OG, but I'm sure Dick can let you know. I am Lead Detective :tonguewag:, just to refresh your memory. Just in case you forgot, you know. LOL

Who's still here? I just came to check for any new posts.

Hmmm, I never got an appointment for Dick Tracy's agency :sad: and I'm here lots of late nights.

[Dick Tracy]

The guy might not have any idea he fathered a child. Won't be the first time that has happened.

Yeah, but - if I was a young man, and sat down to watch the news one night, and suddenly saw this face from the past, that you know, I know I had slept with........ and she had killed her kid, and I look at the calendar, and start thinking, hmm, we had sex around that time.

JMHO

[crimeq]

There's anothier thing that sticks out like a sore thumb...

Where is Caylee's father?

Yes, I know what the A's said... But he does have a family, right? Does anyone really think the A's would give a free pass to anyone while at the same time doing their darnedest to defend their daughter? Would they go to those lengths to let someone else off the hook, so to speak, when a name might take the heat off Casey? Or at least shift the focus for a while?

They tried Jesse Grund, but that didn't work, so they just gave up?

Was it a one-night stand that their daughter can't even remember? Then why try to place paternity on JG, but not on anyone else?

Wasn't it Cindy who said Casey told her she would have had to have sex in order to be pregnant, the implication being that she didn't, therefore she wasn't...?

But when it turned out that she was - pregnant - did they ask her who she had sex with, since by her own admission she had to have had sex to be pregnant?

And what did she say? sorry mom and dad, I don't know it was just some guy I knew? And he doesn't want anything to do with his child, so I'm going to protect him and his family? And they said - OK... ??

And when their granddaughter "disappears", they blame a nanny of their daughter's fabrication, but neve give a second thought to pursuing the father whose identity they guard so jealously even to this day?

Why?

JMHO

I think they do not know, that Casey does not know. Otherwise they would have been all over him for child support. These Ants never miss a $$$.

[Dick Tracy]

Who's still here? I just came to check for any new posts.

Hmmm, I never got an appointment for Dick Tracy's agency :sad: and I'm here lots of late nights.

Thinking fast............ :wink:

CrimeQ - If you'll accept, then I'd like you to become the Lead Supervisor Detective on DOCUMENT research and Study of the Night Owl Detective Agency.

Whatta ya say?

[tinkerbell]

Who's still here? I just came to check for any new posts.

Hmmm, I never got an appointment for Dick Tracy's agency :sad: and I'm here lots of late nights.

LOL, crimeq; thanks for your post!

I've given some thought to the identity of Caylee's bio dad... As, I feel sure many others have as well.

My thoughts are simple, yet controversial...

1. Casey has no idea who Caylee's bio dad is.
2. Caylee's bio dad is someone with money and power; someone that Casey may be afraid to identify.

moo

[tinkerbell]

I am!

Hi Tink! Hi Dick!

Hi AnniePooh!

[crimeq]

Thinking fast............ :wink:

CrimeQ - If you'll accept, then I'd like you to become the Lead Supervisor Detective on DOCUMENT research and Study of the Night Owl Detective Agency.

Whatta ya say?

Do I hafta do any real work? Can I just research Albatross234's youtubes?

[crimeq]

I am!

Hi Tink! Hi Dick!

Hey, Tink, Dick, Annie! We've got a party!

[tinkerbell]

Hey, Tink, Dick, Annie! We've got a party!

Hi crimeq!

[Dick Tracy]

KING: But she did act kind of weirdly, didn't she, at times? No?

CINDY ANTHONY: You know, she's a -- she's a 20 -- she was a 22- year-old kid at the time. I mean she just turned 23 in March. But I don't know, you know, what weirdly means. I mean...

KING: Well, there have been reports that she was, you know, out partying and...

CINDY ANTHONY: That's not weird. I partied at 21 and 22 years old, too.

KING: Not when your daughter is missing.

CINDY ANTHONY: You know, I -- I don't know. That one picture. One...

KING: WEIRD.

MOO

I just love how Larry cut that woman off. You could cut the tension in that studio with a knife around that time!

[crimeq]

Hi crimeq!

Hi Tink! :seeya:

[Dick Tracy]

Tinkerbell! where you have been flying around tonight?

[Dick Tracy]

Do I hafta do any real work? Can I just research Albatross234's youtubes?

Yeah, you may have to do some work for the team, but by now, you probably know half the evidence that's out there by heart anyways, so whats the big deal, Lucille? :scared:

[Dick Tracy]

And if you were a young guy without any scruples (which is the type I believe Casey usually hung out with), you might not say a word.

Not to step on your toes, Boss, but you know how that is. :tonguewag:

oh yeah, I thought of that, but you know..... some people are looking for their fifteen minutes of fame.

It would be funny as hell to see some "stoner" or lazy-azz come forward and say "Wasssup! I'm Caylee's Dad".

[tinkerbell]

Hi Tink! :seeya:

I love good company!

I:seeya:

[crimeq]

KING: But she did act kind of weirdly, didn't she, at times? No?

CINDY ANTHONY: You know, she's a -- she's a 20 -- she was a 22- year-old kid at the time. I mean she just turned 23 in March. But I don't know, you know, what weirdly means. I mean...

KING: Well, there have been reports that she was, you know, out partying and...

CINDY ANTHONY: That's not weird. I partied at 21 and 22 years old, too.

KING: Not when your daughter is missing.

CINDY ANTHONY: You know, I -- I don't know. That one picture. One...

KING: WEIRD.

MOO

I just love how Larry cut that woman off. You could cut the tension in that studio with a knife around that time!

I think Larry did an awesome job. There've been mixed reviews about that, but I think the tack he took based on bloggers' comments, and the overwhelming outpouring of comments he received!--was excellent.

Some people thought he didn't do enough follow-up after asking a question and getting a response (or non-response). But Larry isn't as familiar with this case as we are. I think that he could keep them in the hot seat and make them so visibly uncomfortable was great work on his part. I didn't expect much from LKL, but I think he delivered a great deal.

Cindy and George looked like dumb and dumber to America, and I love it that they didn't get to spend all the time talking about their wonderful foundation.

[Dick Tracy]

Okay, DICK! That's fine with me, but what is she being paid? :scared:


She's being paid with KNOWLEDGE that only one can get from experience. Knowledge is PRICELESS.

[crimeq]

Yeah, you may have to do some work for the team, but by now, you probably know half the evidence that's out there by heart anyways, so whats the big deal, Lucille? :scared:

OK, I accept. Now what was that position again?

[aproudmom]

The guy might not have any idea he fathered a child. Won't be the first time that has happened.

I have always wondered the same thing..heck If I were a man and the father I would be afraid to come and ask for DNA they would call him the Nanny and throw him under the bus..

[tinkerbell]

Tinkerbell! where you have been flying around tonight?

I've just been watching... listening, learning...

[crimeq]

Yeah, you may have to do some work for the team, but by now, you probably know half the evidence that's out there by heart anyways, so whats the big deal, Lucille? :scared:

Yeah, I know what's out there, I've read it all. I could have been on LKL giving him the come-back questions last night, just whispered into a little headset in his ear.

That would have been valuable work for the Agency.

[crimeq]

And if you were a young guy without any scruples (which is the type I believe Casey usually hung out with), you might not say a word.

Not to step on your toes, Boss, but you know how that is. :tonguewag:

Whoever it was may have been afraid to come forward. Or smart enough not to want to get involved with the Hand-Fam.

Or maybe Casey did give them a name, and it was simply unacceptable to Cindy.

I think Cindy didn't know and tried to pin it on Jesse for that reason.

[Dick Tracy]

I think Larry did an awesome job. There've been mixed reviews about that, but I think the tack he took based on bloggers' comments, and the overwhelming outpouring of comments he received!--was excellent.

Some people thought he didn't do enough follow-up after asking a question and getting a response (or non-response). But Larry isn't as familiar with this case as we are. I think that he could keep them in the hot seat and make them so visibly uncomfortable was great work on his part. I didn't expect much from LKL, but I think he delivered a great deal.

Cindy and George looked like dumb and dumber to America, and I love it that they didn't get to spend all the time talking about their wonderful foundation.

I agree.... There were a couple of two part questions, that he never got the second part of the question answered, and I picked up on that only a few times. He crucified them. That was LKL at his direct best.

[crimeq]

Okay, DICK! That's fine with me, but what is she being paid? :scared:

Not to worry, I am setting up a foundation.

[crimeq]

I love good company!

I:seeya:

Me too, Tink! Great to see you here!

[Dick Tracy]

Spoken like a TRUE cheapskate boss. :rolleyes:

HEY! :cursing:

[aproudmom]

I think Larry did an awesome job. There've been mixed reviews about that, but I think the tack he took based on bloggers' comments, and the overwhelming outpouring of comments he received!--was excellent.

Some people thought he didn't do enough follow-up after asking a question and getting a response (or non-response). But Larry isn't as familiar with this case as we are. I think that he could keep them in the hot seat and make them so visibly uncomfortable was great work on his part. I didn't expect much from LKL, but I think he delivered a great deal.

Cindy and George looked like dumb and dumber to America, and I love it that they didn't get to spend all the time talking about their wonderful foundation.

ITA was very happy with the interview and felt he did ask some of the questions we all posted to his blog..and at least he made sure he showed all of AMERICA how many people were outraged...anyone with half a brain would have seen right through them I do not think they will get sympathy maybe a few but they are jokes and all could see they were not happy with alot of the questions..I give LK a :thumbup:

[Dick Tracy]

Yeah, I know what's out there, I've read it all. I could have been on LKL giving him the come-back questions last night, just whispered into a little headset in his ear.

That would have been valuable work for the Agency.


You're hired! Please research for me the exchange of text messages between TL and the OC starting roughly at 6:52am on the 16th of July. That's an important clue, believe it or not.

[crimeq]

I agree that he did an awesome job! Whatever follow-up he did or didn't do, he kept those hard-ball questions flying and I think G and C were blown out of the water! They were not expecting him to ask those tough questions. They were expecting a repeat performance of the last time they were on his show. He showed them, and I loved it.

I didn't watch the first show with LKL. I need to go back to the Links thread and do that. But they certainly weren't prepared for what they got last night, and Cindy was clearly PO'd. She even looked at BradC a couple of times when Larry was asking a question or commenting like, how can he do that? Can he do that? Was that agreed?

LOL. I loved it. I wonder what Cindy hammer 'd last night.

[crimeq]

Spoken like a TRUE cheapskate boss. :rolleyes:

What have I gotten myself into? :rolleyes:

[crimeq]

I agree.... There were a couple of two part questions, that he never got the second part of the question answered, and I picked up on that only a few times. He crucified them. That was LKL at his direct best.

Yep, there was some "old Larry" at work last night. At one time, he was the best.

[tinkerbell]

Me too, Tink! Great to see you here!

Thanks!

I have to wonder about Caylee's bio dad; everyone else has too.

Casey was a money mongering person; I can not believe that she wouldn't have gone after the bio dad for child support. Even if he was deceased; she would have gone after social security money or something.

If the bio dad is really unknown; one might think that any potential "daddy" would have crawled out of the woodwork for his 15 minutes of fame...

Now, if the bio dad was someone that didn't want to be revealed; or someone Casey actually feared, then maybe his identity would be kept a secret?

moo

[aproudmom]

Not to worry, I am setting up a foundation.

OMG not a fraudation is it:wink:

[crimeq]

ITA was very happy with the interview and felt he did ask some of the questions we all posted to his blog..and at least he made sure he showed all of AMERICA how many people were outraged...anyone with half a brain would have seen right through them I do not think they will get sympathy maybe a few but they are jokes and all could see they were not happy with alot of the questions..I give LK a :thumbup:

Me too, proudmom (glad to see you here late-night, too!). I really do think he made them look like fools. I had to evaluate that, because I KNOW they are fools, and didn't want to use that filter to see what was happening on LKL. But no, he really did make them look like fools to the rest of America that doesn't follow this case the way we do (or recognize the Ants for who and what they are).

[Dick Tracy]

What the HECK DID SHE MEAN HERE?

KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: You have a suspect in your mind. You seemed to indicate that, right? But you don't have proof about that suspect.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: WEIRD.

[Oregongal]

I can't remember your title, OG, but I'm sure Dick can let you know. I am Lead Detective :tonguewag:, just to refresh your memory. Just in case you forgot, you know. LOL

Sorry for my tardiness...I lost my signal and have been 'without power'....LOL for quite a few mins.
Now I find myself behind, yet again.
It happened when I was posting a reply to aproudmom and that all went poof.
Love the tech, but hate it just as much.
:biggrin:

[tinkerbell]

You're hired! Please research for me the exchange of text messages between TL and the OC starting roughly at 6:52am on the 16th of July. That's an important clue, believe it or not.

I believe that I have read the text messages between TonyL and Casey on the 16th.

Hints are welcome....

moo

[crimeq]

OMG not a fraudation is it:wink:

LOL! I love that! That's what the Ants are setting up! :thumbsup:

[crimeq]

What the HECK DID SHE MEAN HERE?

KING: We have a blog question from Jamie -- "if Casey is innocent, as you say, and you have information to prove it, why put such a cost burden on the taxpayers of Orange County, Florida? If you can put an end to this with any information, why not just come forward with it?"

C. ANTHONY: We don't have proof that she didn't do it, but there's a lot of proof -- or there's a lot of evidence out there that doesn't prove that she's done it.
KING: So you don't have the reverse. That's like proving a negative.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: You have a suspect in your mind. You seemed to indicate that, right? But you don't have proof about that suspect.

C. ANTHONY: Right.

KING: WEIRD.

Cindy was rattled, and it was kind of a Freudian slip, I think. "We don't have proof that Casey didn't do it."

Don't let that stop them, though.

[Dick Tracy]

I believe that I have read the text messages between TonyL and Casey on the 16th.

Hints are welcome....

moo

Hey Tink, do you know where I can find that exchange between them? I keep thinking that Casey said a few things there that were extremely incriminating. I've seen it, but I can't find it..

[crimeq]

Sorry for my tardiness...I lost my signal and have been 'without power'....LOL for quite a few mins.
Now I find myself behind, yet again.
It happened when I was posting a reply to aproudmom and that all went poof.
Love the tech, but hate it just as much.
:biggrin:

My computer's been going in and out today and I don't know why. It's a new computer and I had an expert over to set it all up for me. If the prob continues, I'm going to have to call him to check it.

I'm not good at the hardware stuff.

[Dick Tracy]

Low pay, little appreciation, but a loveable boss.

Our slogan for our agency is, "If you don't think Dick can do it, you don't know DICK!" :laugh:

:thumbsup: ROFL LMAO.....

[Oregongal]

I have to say I agree with all of it since last night watching them not begging or even acting as if they cared the daughter they claim to love is on trial for DP and they are not out there searching for the real killer..I am not so sure they want her to get off...me and my mom was talking about this tonight we both felt it was about them and their image not Caylee or even KC..I do not think they killed Caylee but I do think they have a lot of blood on their hands..and no there is no way they are listening to BC if he approves of this he should not be practicing in the court of law..and if I were JB I would be talking to BC and telling him to keep their mouths shut I have never seen so many defense Lawyers outraged over them until today..they all say they need to SHUT THEIR MOUTHS they are only making it worse for their daughter but I am starting to think they do not care maybe this is the way to get back at her for taking caylee away from them..who knows with them...jmo of course

As I said my signal went out while I was replying to you.
I wish I hadn't lost it all, it was good :biggrin:
Bottom line, I agree with you, the Ant's have blood on their hands and they should keep their mouths shut.
That's all I can say because I'm skeeerd my signal is going out again. Puter is acting really weird.
:wub:

[crimeq]

I "promised" Larry i wouldn't watch him, and my hubs laughed and said I was being foolish. I just didn't want my watching LKL to show up on his ratings. I watched it on youtube, and as grainy as it was, I got to see them squirm.

I think she hammered George. Isn't that his usual role in their marriage? :scared:

It is. Did you read earlier today, some of us were wondering why he went back to Cindy after the separation? She canceled the divorce because she'd have to give him half of everything, and pay alimony. He'd been out of the house for 4 months, and in George's position right then, I'd have pressed for the divorce and the nice financial settlement.

So what brings him back into the family fold?

[crimeq]

I "promised" Larry i wouldn't watch him, and my hubs laughed and said I was being foolish. I just didn't want my watching LKL to show up on his ratings. I watched it on youtube, and as grainy as it was, I got to see them squirm.

I think she hammered George. Isn't that his usual role in their marriage? :scared:

I wonder if they went out for crab puffs first.

[crimeq]

Low pay, little appreciation, but a loveable boss.

Our slogan for our agency is, "If you don't think Dick can do it, you don't know DICK!" :laugh:

LOL! I like it.

[aproudmom]

Me too, proudmom (glad to see you here late-night, too!). I really do think he made them look like fools. I had to evaluate that, because I KNOW they are fools, and didn't want to use that filter to see what was happening on LKL. But no, he really did make them look like fools to the rest of America that doesn't follow this case the way we do (or recognize the Ants for who and what they are).

Hi ya crime
I was so happy to see them squirming they were caught off guard IMO LK usually does not have cases like this on anymore..and I felt he did listen to all of our outrage and I even said a thank you and sorry since I was not such a nice person on his blog..I am glad they did it let them talk they are only helping the States case and making it easier for JUSTICE 4 CAYLEE..IMO

[crimeq]

I believe that I have read the text messages between TonyL and Casey on the 16th.

Hints are welcome....

moo

Hmmm, guess I'll need to go back and do that, with my new position in the Agency and all. I remember reading them but nothing is standing out in my mind at the moment.

Dick, any hints?

[tinkerbell]

Hey Tink, do you know where I can find that exchange between them? I keep thinking that Casey said a few things there that were extremely incriminating. I've seen it, but I can't find it..

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5686811/Casey-Anthony-Tony-Lazzaro-transcript-Sept-8-2008

[coffee1950j]

Hi, all! :seeya:

Just a quick stop by before I get to bed.

The one thing I noticed about LKL last nite. Cindy said the pictures of KC p'ing in the garage and barf ing in the john were 5 years old. Then she said they were from KC's 21'st birthday party.

Ummmmmmmm, last time I checked KC is only 23 years old now (just turned in March).

So I guess besides not knowing how to spell, Cindy also doesn't know how to add.

JMO of course

[crimeq]

Well, all, it's almost 2:30 here. I don't have to be up super-early in the a.m., but need to get at least some sleep!

It's been great chatting with everyone! See you tomorrow -- well, later today!

Nite, all :wub:

[Dick Tracy]

Hmmm, guess I'll need to go back and do that, with my new position in the Agency and all. I remember reading them but nothing is standing out in my mind at the moment.

Dick, any hints?

Something to the effect that she's been LYING to everyone for the past 31 days, or something to that effect......

[Dick Tracy]

well, all, it's almost 2:30 here. I don't have to be up super-early in the a.m., but need to get at least some sleep!

It's been great chatting with everyone! See you tomorrow -- well, later today!

Nite, all :wub:

g'niters cq

[Oregongal]

OG, I reread your post again to find what I disagreed with and couldn't find it. So I guess I do agree with all of it after all. :crying:

I'm trying to catch up with you all since I was cut off due to my wireless signal going poof.
Don't cry sweetie, and thank you again. Dang, I thought you might have had something to combine with my ideas.
Here, have a tissue, I have plenty. If you do think of anything to add or disagree with please let me know.
:wub:

[Dick Tracy]

I agree, crime. I NEED to get some beauty sleep or hubs will leave me. :w00t: I will chat with you all in the morning.

I am so in love with all of you. I love you all and I love this board!

good night Canada!

[Oregongal]

Who's still here? I just came to check for any new posts.

Hmmm, I never got an appointment for Dick Tracy's agency :sad: and I'm here lots of late nights.

As I said, I'm trying to catch up after being off signal.
Hmmmm, I'm wondering also crime.
DT,
#1- I can't remember my title, I know Pooh is Lead Detective and you are Chairman.
#2- crime should have a title because she is definantly part of the Night Owl's Detecitve Agency.
Please Mr. Chairman, send us a memo.
:biggrin:

[nothingnew]

It is. Did you read earlier today, some of us were wondering why he went back to Cindy after the separation? She canceled the divorce because she'd have to give him half of everything, and pay alimony. He'd been out of the house for 4 months, and in George's position right then, I'd have pressed for the divorce and the nice financial settlement.

So what brings him back into the family fold?

I don't think this guy can think for himself. I think he needs cindy to tell him what to do. Remember in one of his early interviews with LE he said (not exact words) that she was domineering or something to that affect and he was attracted to that. I do agree with him when he says something like "I am not saying I'm intelligent".

[tinkerbell]

Hey Tink, do you know where I can find that exchange between them? I keep thinking that Casey said a few things there that were extremely incriminating. I've seen it, but I can't find it..

Try this link; I believe you will find what you were looking for:

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/38168184.html

moo

[Oregongal]

Well, crap, it seems I've missed all the wonderful reparte the Agency had.
:crying:
Now I see you all saying good night.
And I haven't seen the answers to my questions Mr Dick Tracy.
Waaaaaaa!
Oh well.
Good night to all going ni nite. Sleep well and have lovely dreams.
:wub:

[tinkerbell]

Well, crap, it seems I've missed all the wonderful reparte the Agency had.
:crying:
Now I see you all saying good night.
And I haven't seen the answers to my questions Mr Dick Tracy.
Waaaaaaa!
Oh well.
Good night to all going ni nite. Sleep well and have lovely dreams.
:wub:

I'm out too; good night Oregongal and everyone!

[nothingnew]

Hmmm, guess I'll need to go back and do that, with my new position in the Agency and all. I remember reading them but nothing is standing out in my mind at the moment.

Dick, any hints?

Oh here's a hint-talk to eastside joe! That poster has been keeping tabs on the texts and times very closely. As far as i remember the actual text messages for the 15/16 have NOT been released, just the lengths of the texts and phone calls. I could be wrong but if you can find eastside joe you can get all the answers for that.

[Oregongal]

Oh here's a hint-talk to eastside joe! That poster has been keeping tabs on the texts and times very closely. As far as i remember the actual text messages for the 15/16 have NOT been released, just the lengths of the texts and phone calls. I could be wrong but if you can find eastside joe you can get all the answers for that.

I saw eastside joe posted something way earlier today. So he's still here. Yes, you are so right about what he's been doing.
I think of him as the Casey phone/text expert of our board.
:thumbup:
With this, I'm going ni night.
I will be looking forward to a pm from DT with the answers to my ???
And looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow.
Good night all, sleep well.
:wub:

[nothingnew]

Oh here's a hint-talk to eastside joe! That poster has been keeping tabs on the texts and times very closely. As far as i remember the actual text messages for the 15/16 have NOT been released, just the lengths of the texts and phone calls. I could be wrong but if you can find eastside joe you can get all the answers for that.

Yep, I am quoting myself. My bad! I thought you were looking for JUNE 16, wasn't even thinking of July when casey got to do her explaining.

[Dick Tracy]

I've been up doing some research, regarding Casey and TL's text message of the 16th of July.

Here is what TL sent to her -

6:50 a.m. "Where is Caylee?"

6:53 a.m. "I don't know.. R U serious? When did you find out?"

6:58 a.m. "Y wouldn't you tell me of all people. I was UR boyfriend that cares about you and UR daughter- Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you lie to me thinking she was fine and with your nanny?"

7:02 a.m. "I don't know what to say... I just hope your daughter is OK and I'm going to do whatever i can to help your family and the cops."

7:04 - 7:19 a.m. "Who is this Zanny person? Where did you drop Caylee off last time you saw her?"
"Have you told and showed the police the apartment?"

7:23 a.m. "Yea no S*%& this is serious why would U say something sooner about this? To anyone?"

7:25 a.m. "Oh and why are you texting me and not calling?"

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Does anyone know or have Casey's side of this conversation? Can anyone locate it?

Eastside Joe - where are you? Can you help?


thanks