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~Dramatica~
05-14-2009, 06:47 PM
According to TVNewser King dropped 56 points with the Anthony interview. He had a 188 last nite compared to 244 on Tuesday nite. I guess the Anthony show is past prime time.:thumbsup:
As lizzie says "unleash the keyboards". :biggrin: The evil bloggers strike again.
msgatorslayer
05-14-2009, 06:49 PM
:crying: I had some meatloaf go bad in my refrigerator. It stunk so bad I had to start a foundation. You're soooooo lucky you have no tragedy in your life.
:biggrin:
I had food, in the freezer, and the fridge, it smelled so bad. Dang hurricane knocked the power out for 3 days. All that food, sitting, in the hot house, for 3 days. Can you imagine?
And no, it didn't smell like a dead body in the dang fridge.:cursing:
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 06:50 PM
Some people cry when they are furious. I think Cindy was pretty well enraged by the end of LKL.
What do you want to bet Casey always cried when she didn't get her way as a child?
GA said she was never abused as a child..lol..wonder why LK ask that? maybe because his daughter tried to throw her own bro and daddy under the bus ..:scared:
I have no doubt she is the snot head not Caylee
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 06:50 PM
Yes and I cannot believe that the grandparents of a grandchild murdered by the daughter/mother would exploit that child.
They are not honoring Caylee's memory in my opinion. They are a disgrace to Caylee's memory. They should be wanting the person responsible to be held accountable to the full extent of the law.
JMO
It's hard to accept that they can behave as they do, but this pair had no use for Caylee once she was gone. They saw an opportunity to shove their faces in front of cameras in Casey's 'defense' and never looked back.
They couldn't even let that poor innocent child rest. Cindy has turned her into accessories. Having grown up around a sociopath I don't find it as hard as most people do to accept the truth about the A's, but it still makes me furious!
denjet
05-14-2009, 06:52 PM
I've gotten the impression for quite some time from things the Ants have said that it's not their choice for the lack of visits to see Casey. I think it is Casey who is refusing the visits, either from her own volition or from orders by Baez. And knowing the Anthonys as we all do now, if I was Casey's defense attorney, I'd prohibit her from seeing her family too. That's because everything the Anthonys do and say seems to hurt Casey's case. And if I was Casey's attorney, I would have wanted that gag order if it would have prevented the Anthonys media tour, because that is also hurting Casey's case. Sometime I have to wonder if the Ants are not doing this in order to get Casey convicted. It sure seems as though they're trying really hard to do so.
Hi seeing! (bolding mine)
I feel the same way, George and Cindy are of no use to her now, they can't bond her out and help in anyway to get her out of there ... she DID go against Baez's advice of not taking a visit from them again when she was in jail the first time ... why did she go against him? because she was still working on them to guilt them into getting her out on bond ...
Now why Baez isn't telling them to shut up and stay off of TV is a mystery ... he can't possibly think they are helping !!
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 06:52 PM
GA said she was never abused as a child..lol..wonder why LK ask that? maybe because his daughter tried to throw her own bro and daddy under the bus ..:scared:
I have no doubt she is the snot head not Caylee
I think it's safe to assume that Casey has always been in the position of power in her relationships. Both Cindy's Mother and Brother stated in emails that Casey had always ruled George and Lee.
I agree with you 100% about who the snot head is!
enigma™
05-14-2009, 06:55 PM
According to TVNewser King dropped 56 points with the Anthony interview. He had a 188 last nite compared to 244 on Tuesday nite. I guess the Anthony show is past prime time.:thumbsup:
It will be interesting to see if he bounces back tonight. I thoroughly enjoyed Criminal Minds last evening.
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 06:55 PM
Some people cry when they are furious. I think Cindy was pretty well enraged by the end of LKL.
What do you want to bet Casey always cried when she didn't get her way as a child?
Or buried her pets in the lot down the block. :scared:
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 06:55 PM
I had food, in the freezer, and the fridge, it smelled so bad. Dang hurricane knocked the power out for 3 days. All that food, sitting, in the hot house, for 3 days. Can you imagine?
And no, it didn't smell like a dead body in the dang fridge.:cursing:
I have never smelled a dead body but had many family members tell me you would never forget it if you did...and it sure does not smell like pizza or a frig with rotting food in it..they really must be stupid to think anyone believes that..:thumbdown:
openminded
05-14-2009, 06:56 PM
I found the following exchange interesting:
KING: You mean the picture was from five years ago and they're playing it as if it happened now?
C. ANTHONY: Yes. The one picture of her hanging over her toilet was the 21st birthday. My son took her out with all of her friends for her 21st birthday. I was invited to that party, but I chose to stay home and take care of Caylee.
You know, she's hanging out with her friends. There's only one picture during that time that Caylee was missing, and that's the one with her with a blue dress on. And she was actually working that night.
This is the second time I have heard cindy attempt to claim the OC was actually working that night. Wonder what fantasy they will come up with at trial to prove it.
Also, I love how the anthonys say it's just one night of clubbing after Caylee was murdered. LE will have all the inappropriate actions of the OC from 6/15 on and nowhere will there be any signs of her actually searching for her "kidnapped" daughter.
mommy and daddy are going to have a very rude awakening in that courtroom imo.
Bolding to address . . . .
I believe the story Cindy's repeating about Casey working comes from the time she was supposedly "managing" the shot girls -- for free, I assume -- and Casey probably told Cindy that the girl-on-girl photos was probably part of her "work" in that regard at Fusion.
Surely even Cindy wouldn't try at this point to convince anyone that Casey was "event planning" at Fusion for Universal when those photos were taken.
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 06:58 PM
According to TVNewser King dropped 56 points with the Anthony interview. He had a 188 last nite compared to 244 on Tuesday nite. I guess the Anthony show is past prime time.:thumbsup:
Oh my, you're kidding! I can't believe it! I thought the hype would raise it much more than normal even with the adverse reactions. Wow. I'm impressed.
ConchGirl
05-14-2009, 06:59 PM
I had food, in the freezer, and the fridge, it smelled so bad. Dang hurricane knocked the power out for 3 days. All that food, sitting, in the hot house, for 3 days. Can you imagine?
And no, it didn't smell like a dead body in the dang fridge.:cursing:
We were without power for 2 weeks after Andrew and I smelled some really bad things, but I would not describe it as a dead body. George & Cindy knew. imo
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 07:01 PM
:ohmy:I hope so to..they are so cute and they have to live there poor little doggy's:biggrin:
Something tells me the animals there live a lot better than the humans ever have.
desmom
05-14-2009, 07:01 PM
Casey's Ex-Death Penalty Attorney Releases Statement
http://www.wftv.com/news/19463864/detail.html
Lenamon's statement: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19463783/detail.html
Pruddennce
05-14-2009, 07:01 PM
I thought her voice cracked toward the end of the interview almost like she was ready to cry. Probably because of us evil bloggers sending in those questions. :w00t:
imo
IMO, this is what happened: Cindy George and that man calling himself an attorney were told shortly ahead of airing that the interview was going to acknowledge the outrage the network and Larry himself were receiving.....
lawyer said, no sweat....George was wide-eyed with no original thought...Cindy was not pleased that she was going to share HER TIME and HER APPEARANCE with others....especially Larry's audience, complete with opinions.
she was not pleased and was unable to back out of it....darned if she did, darned if she didnt.....she was already dissed by Oprah, she wasnt going to say she cancelled this one too. so she pouted....wa wa wa.....what a waste of new clothes and makeup...she was 'off' her game..... :D
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....and what marinewife5 said.....*
bchand
05-14-2009, 07:04 PM
I just posted a long "open letter" to George and Cindy on my blog. **sigh** It's poorly written, IMO, but after watching bits of their appearance on LKL last night I had to vent... I would appreciate a critique of the letter from you wonderful bloggers here...
Google my name and "Random Thoughts" and you should be able to find my lame letter. Thanks in advance. I'm halfway tempted to send a link for my letter to Cindy via email.. :scared:
Note that I said "halfway"... lol
:::::Bravo::::: That was NOT poorly written. Nicely done Anakerie.
Oh ya I have converted him, lol
Now he HAS to know what Nancy Grace is saying and reminds me when its time.
Gotta like that!
:laugh:
awwww, mine just says, "Hey Babe, Bombshell for you......... you know she is dead, the body found and put to rest and the killer is in jail"
To which I reply, "Close the door behind you plz" ...lol
I just watched the LKL interview. How in the heck can you equate your car keys to a child?
And why do the Ants always look so tan? Maybe from outtings in their boat?
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:06 PM
:::::Bravo::::: That was NOT poorly written. Nicely done Anakerie.
Yes, very nicely done. I'm afraid you're talking to a couple of deaf adders there, but at least you've made the effort. You are a heck of a lot nicer that I would have been! LOL
marinewife5
05-14-2009, 07:06 PM
I had food, in the freezer, and the fridge, it smelled so bad. Dang hurricane knocked the power out for 3 days. All that food, sitting, in the hot house, for 3 days. Can you imagine?
And no, it didn't smell like a dead body in the dang fridge.:cursing:
i once listed a house that had the power off (in NCarolina in the summer) with a freezer full of old fish and a dead kitten in a shoebox on the counter...it was awful, but once the items were removed and the house cleaned, the smell was gone...not quite the same as human decomp, dear cindy. i know you won't understand, because you've never been a real estate broker in north carolina.
she's never ever going to shed herself of that remark, and the others she made about casey. the more she talks, the less she is believed.
jmo
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 07:07 PM
I just posted a long "open letter" to George and Cindy on my blog. **sigh** It's poorly written, IMO, but after watching bits of their appearance on LKL last night I had to vent... I would appreciate a critique of the letter from you wonderful bloggers here...
Google my name and "Random Thoughts" and you should be able to find my lame letter. Thanks in advance. I'm halfway tempted to send a link for my letter to Cindy via email.. :scared:
Note that I said "halfway"... lol
That was really good Lorraine! Send her a link. I think you thought it out and presented it really well. (Interesting blog, too!)
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:07 PM
awwww, mine just says, "Hey Babe, Bombshell for you......... you know she is dead, the body found and put to rest and the killer is in jail"
To which I reply, "Close the door behind you plz" ...lol
I just watched the LKL interview. How in the heck can you equate your car keys to a child?
And why do the Ants always look so tan? Maybe from outtings in their boat?
It looks like make up to me. Very heavy make up.
ConchGirl
05-14-2009, 07:08 PM
IMO, this is what happened: Cindy George and that man calling himself an attorney were told shortly ahead of airing that the interview was going to acknowledge the outrage the network and Larry himself were receiving.....
lawyer said, no sweat....George was wide-eyed with no original thought...Cindy was not pleased that she was going to share HER TIME and HER APPEARANCE with others....especially Larry's audience, complete with opinions.
she was not pleased and was unable to back out of it....darned if she did, darned if she didnt.....she was already dissed by Oprah, she wasnt going to say she cancelled this one too. so she pouted....wa wa wa.....what a waste of new clothes and makeup...she was 'off' her game..... :D
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....and what marinewife5 said.....*
Bold is mine. You are so right. It's all about me me me just like her pathetic daughter. In Cindy's FBI interview it was obvious to me that she could not distinguish the difference between Casey and herself. The questions were supposed to be about Casey but it always turned back to Cindy. imo
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:08 PM
:::::Bravo::::: That was NOT poorly written. Nicely done Anakerie.
:blushing: Wow.. Thank you, bchand! lol, It took me forever to write that thing, what with all the back spacing, deleting and rewriting...
5boxersmom
05-14-2009, 07:09 PM
IMO, this is what happened: Cindy George and that man calling himself an attorney were told shortly ahead of airing that the interview was going to acknowledge the outrage the network and Larry himself were receiving.....
lawyer said, no sweat....George was wide-eyed with no original thought...Cindy was not pleased that she was going to share HER TIME and HER APPEARANCE with others....especially Larry's audience, complete with opinions.
she was not pleased and was unable to back out of it....darned if she did, darned if she didnt.....she was already dissed by Oprah, she wasnt going to say she cancelled this one too. so she pouted....wa wa wa.....what a waste of new clothes and makeup...she was 'off' her game..... :D
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....and what marinewife5 said.....*
:lol:
Bolding is mine.
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 07:10 PM
Casey's Ex-Death Penalty Attorney Releases Statement
http://www.wftv.com/news/19463864/detail.html
Lenamon's statement: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19463783/detail.html
HOW is Baez able to be driving this off in the ditch so badly? Gaw.
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:10 PM
Yes, very nicely done. I'm afraid you're talking to a couple of deaf adders there, but at least you've made the effort. You are a heck of a lot nicer that I would have been! LOL
LOL!! The "nicer" thing you mentioned.. That was a HUGE part of my backspacing, deleting and rewriting... hehehe
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:13 PM
That was really good Lorraine! Send her a link. I think you thought it out and presented it really well. (Interesting blog, too!)
Thank you, Lavinia! I might get brave and send her a link... I'll admit I would be scared to see what kind of reply she'd give me, if any! LOL
I have fun with that blog... It's pretty random, for sure... Hence the name! lol
StickyBeak
05-14-2009, 07:13 PM
someone or something got the he77 beat out of it when they got home, I hope tillie and tinker are okay:sad:
Hi Ish, You Bet Ya, Bet her toes were a tapping as well. PoorBoy George was gonna be definitely in for a beating. JMO The body language speaks volumes to me, must have missed the gum trying to hold on to the gritting teeth. Phew. Larry did good JMO
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:15 PM
Or buried her pets in the lot down the block. :scared:
but didnt they say she never had any pets...lol
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:20 PM
When did she talk to DFC after caylee went missing? well according to them.. we all know that is not the truth...I can not Image anyone calling their baby "THAT CHILD":cursing:
My boys are Gifts from God..
denjet
05-14-2009, 07:25 PM
According to TVNewser King dropped 56 points with the Anthony interview. He had a 188 last nite compared to 244 on Tuesday nite. I guess the Anthony show is past prime time.:thumbsup:
WOW! A lot of people must have been turned off to make that big a difference !! Maybe other news programs will think twice about having them on !! :thumbsup:
Power to the bloggers!
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:26 PM
LOL!! The "nicer" thing you mentioned.. That was a HUGE part of my backspacing, deleting and rewriting... hehehe
I'll bet it was! LOL:wink:
Pruddennce
05-14-2009, 07:28 PM
Bolding to address . . . .
I believe the story Cindy's repeating about Casey working comes from the time she was supposedly "managing" the shot girls -- for free, I assume -- and Casey probably told Cindy that the girl-on-girl photos was probably part of her "work" in that regard at Fusion.
Surely even Cindy wouldn't try at this point to convince anyone that Casey was "event planning" at Fusion for Universal when those photos were taken.
yes you are right. but what Cindy 'doesnt get': that photo was taken friday nite, after her 'babysitter stole Caylee'. so she plans her week as usual, rents movies the NITE OF the KIDNAPPING, sends out global texts, Come to Fusion, non stop phone use, etc etc. all in the name of 'might have been in shock', or grieving the best she could'...OMG. while she was WORKING at Fusion....LOL
so the shock held on for the rest of the month, when she did lunch, got a tattoo, committed fraud against her best friend, stole food from her parents house, cook, cleaned Tony's apartment, while using her 'other resources' to look for Caylee: in the bank? in Target? in her parents' fridge? in Tony's apt? in Amy's apt?
Cindy would like everyone to believe Casey was somehow, some way, looking for her daughter.....rightttttttttttttt.......
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 07:29 PM
We were without power for 2 weeks after Andrew and I smelled some really bad things, but I would not describe it as a dead body. George & Cindy knew. imo
Hi neighbor! Andrew popped out at me! I'm just a little bit north of Homestead but I love the Keys! Of course George and Cindy knew. They are professionals, or should I say they have held professional positions in the past. I noticed that Cindy, is of course, the President of their foundation! I thought she was going to say George was the VP but she just said George, their son, and some other people were on the board or something like that.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:29 PM
I just posted a long "open letter" to George and Cindy on my blog. **sigh** It's poorly written, IMO, but after watching bits of their appearance on LKL last night I had to vent... I would appreciate a critique of the letter from you wonderful bloggers here...
Google my name and "Random Thoughts" and you should be able to find my lame letter. Thanks in advance. I'm halfway tempted to send a link for my letter to Cindy via email.. :scared:
Note that I said "halfway"... lol
sounds good Anak :thumbup:
ladeebug565
05-14-2009, 07:30 PM
Two things that just make me snicker.
First:
C. ANTHONY: They made an arrest based on the fact that she lied about where she worked. That had nothing to do with Caylee.
KING: Why did she lie?
C. ANTHONY: I don't really know. I don't really know. Maybe to be with Caylee more, you know. I don't know.
:laugh: LOL, to be with Caylee more? She was lying to everyone about having a job, getting the Grunds and George/Cindy and that other gal to babysit.
Second:
KING: ...Has the prosecution been above board in that regard?
Have they not taken this to the public?
CONWAY: They have. Their -- their release of documents has gone out to the public in -- in thousands of pages. And then, of course, that gets back to the...
KING: In advance of the trial?
CONWAY: Yes, sir.
:glare: Duh, the Sunshine Law in Florida allows the documents to be public. Don't blame the prosecutors. If you don't like the law, work to change it.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:32 PM
Hi neighbor! Andrew popped out at me! I'm just a little bit north of Homestead but I love the Keys! Of course George and Cindy knew. They are professionals, or should I say they have held professional positions in the past. I noticed that Cindy, is of course, the President of their foundation! I thought she was going to say George was the VP but she just said George, their son, and some other people were on the board or something like that.
yep and they are not getting paid..lol..ok..and they said 4 other people I was so hoping LK would ask about the others running it..
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 07:33 PM
I would like to know where Lee Anthony is employed. He is dumb enough to get involved in anything that comes his way.
Cindy said he is involved with an event planning company. In the past I think it was said that he travels around for big events to help set up tents and parking areas, etc.
ConchGirl
05-14-2009, 07:33 PM
And I have looked and looked to find that same bear and have not been able to find that one, but some places give you like an option to dress them and design them, kinda like that place in the mall ... Create your own bear or something like that.
IMO they have signed up with one of them to manufacture these bears.
I would start with KFN or one of their companies. :wink:
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:37 PM
yes you are right. but what Cindy 'doesnt get': that photo was taken friday nite, after her 'babysitter stole Caylee'. so she plans her week as usual, rents movies the NITE OF the KIDNAPPING, sends out global texts, Come to Fusion, non stop phone use, etc etc. all in the name of 'might have been in shock', or grieving the best she could'...OMG. while she was WORKING at Fusion....LOL
so the shock held on for the rest of the month, when she did lunch, got a tattoo, committed fraud against her best friend, stole food from her parents house, cook, cleaned Tony's apartment, while using her 'other resources' to look for Caylee: in the bank? in Target? in her parents' fridge? in Tony's apt? in Amy's apt?
Cindy would like everyone to believe Casey was somehow, some way, looking for her daughter.....rightttttttttttttt.......
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
watch out the ugly coping is coming I can hear it already that was her way of coping with the loss of her daughter..kinda hard since her parents said she was their to look for Caylee and now to work..does not sound like ugly coping..just down right EVIL UGLY:angry:
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:38 PM
You know, Cindy needs to educate herself about the smell of decomposition. (I think she knows exactly what she smelled, and it wasn't pizza) I read an article a couple of years ago about the smell of decomp written by a pathologist, who stated not only is human decomposition a unique smell, but that the decomp. of individual animals all differ from one another. Which makes sense, since each is a different chemical make up.
It's not something that most of us would like to be familiar with on a personal basis, but those who know say it's a one of a kind smell, and her attempts to pawn it off as pizza are beyond pathetic. She's not even in the ballpark. Surely someone has pointed this out to her by now? Not that she'd listen...
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 07:38 PM
Hi everyone!
I watched the CNN video of last night's LKL interview.
CNN edited out at least 2 parts of the program that I noticed.
1. The name and address of the Caylee Marie Anthony foundation
CNN took that plug for $$$ outta there.
2. That awful song is not included
That brought the CNN version in at about 32 minutes! :w00t:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:38 PM
I would start with KFN or one of their companies. :wink:
Definitely! I'm sure that the Milsteads have a lot to do with producing those bears...
It's so silly for them to be making a big production over these bears. First responders have been handing out stuffed toys to children for years! It's been more than 20 years since my ex was a batt. chief in the fire department, but even back then he had a little box in the trunk of the fire department car that had small stuffed animals in it!
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 07:38 PM
but didnt they say she never had any pets...lol
Or did they? :sneaky:
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:41 PM
Hi everyone!
I watched the CNN video of last night's LKL interview.
CNN edited out at least 2 parts of the program that I noticed.
1. The name and address of the Caylee Marie Anthony foundation
CNN took that plug for $$$ outta there.
2. That awful song is not included
That brought the CNN version in at about 32 minutes! :w00t:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
Wow! Good for CNN!!
Perhaps the fact that the "foundation" is NOT a real foundation made CNN think twice about letting George and Cindy advertise their .. Uhm.. ......
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:43 PM
Wow! Good for CNN!!
Perhaps the fact that the "foundation" is NOT a real foundation made CNN think twice about letting George and Cindy advertise their .. Uhm.. ......
Source of income?
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:43 PM
And I have looked and looked to find that same bear and have not been able to find that one, but some places give you like an option to dress them and design them, kinda like that place in the mall ... Create your own bear or something like that.
IMO they have signed up with one of them to manufacture these bears.
Build a Bear we have one here I love it..but it is not all just bears all kinds of animals..
http://www.buildabear.com/shop/browsecategory.aspx?CallingPage=BrowseCategory&Category=Bears
that bear she had last night looked cheap and build a bear they are far from cheap looking..you can go online and order 100 cheap bears for 50 bucks..or less...but I have not seen it close up just last night on LKL
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:46 PM
Hi everyone!
I watched the CNN video of last night's LKL interview.
CNN edited out at least 2 parts of the program that I noticed.
1. The name and address of the Caylee Marie Anthony foundation
CNN took that plug for $$$ outta there.
2. That awful song is not included
That brought the CNN version in at about 32 minutes! :w00t:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
good for them glad to hear that..:thumbup:
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 07:48 PM
Source of income?
Perfect! lol, My mind went blank... hehe
101Spots
05-14-2009, 07:51 PM
Build a Bear we have one here I love it..but it is not all just bears all kinds of animals..
http://www.buildabear.com/shop/browsecategory.aspx?CallingPage=BrowseCategory&Category=Bears
that bear she had last night looked cheap and build a bear they are far from cheap looking..you can go online and order 100 cheap bears for 50 bucks..or less...but I have not seen it close up just last night on LKL
This place sells bears very cheap - as low as 12 for $15.99. They have several models, and I'm sure they would do custom orders.
Oriental Trading Company (http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/search/processRequest.do?Ipp=16&No=0&D=teddy+bears&Ntt=teddy+bears&Ntk=all&Dx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&Ntx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&y=0&N=0&requestURI=searchMain&x=0)
FeelinFroggy617
05-14-2009, 07:53 PM
Two things that just make me snicker.
First:
C. ANTHONY: They made an arrest based on the fact that she lied about where she worked. That had nothing to do with Caylee.
KING: Why did she lie?
C. ANTHONY: I don't really know. I don't really know. Maybe to be with Caylee more, you know. I don't know.
:laugh: LOL, to be with Caylee more? She was lying to everyone about having a job, getting the Grunds and George/Cindy and that other gal to babysit.
Second:
KING: ...Has the prosecution been above board in that regard?
Have they not taken this to the public?
CONWAY: They have. Their -- their release of documents has gone out to the public in -- in thousands of pages. And then, of course, that gets back to the...
KING: In advance of the trial?
CONWAY: Yes, sir.
:glare: Duh, the Sunshine Law in Florida allows the documents to be public. Don't blame the prosecutors. If you don't like the law, work to change it.
The first part you mentioned above was actually the part of the interview that made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV last night. Who does she think shes kidding? Seriously!?? Casey makes up a job so she can spend more time with the "snothead"? Give me a break. I'll tell ya... these Anthonys really are a piece of work. George looked severely uncomfortable the whole time... he did NOT look LK in the eyes much at all when answering questions. Why? Because he wasn't telling the truth.
JMO
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 07:54 PM
Was it just me or did BC have the look of evil in his eyes also:scared:
about 20 seconds in
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
love the red tie and blue shirt and tan jacket:lol:
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:55 PM
I have first hand experience on what a decomposed body smells like.
I managed an apartment complex many many years ago and the tenant had a heart attack and died. 2 days later I kept smelling something horrible all the way in my apartment. I scrubbed floors and took a toothbrush to every nook and cranny for 2 more days. Finally I was walking past his window and nosey me looked in and there were 100's of flies on a birthday cake and it bothered me and I knew maybe something happened. After banging and banging on his door I called the police. The police got there, I gave them the master key and all they did was open the door and then they closed it immediately without even going in and called the coroner.
George is a BIG liar if he claims to have been a detective years ago. That comes with the job. After all those years he had to have come across a decomposed body. He clearly knows what that smell is cause you never forget it. I never did.
Pizza is LUDICROUS! Rotten food in a refrigerator is LUDICROUS!
They both are covering her a** big time for that alone!:cursing:
Sorry you had to smell that Dianna! How awful. You're right about the A's lying. Everyone says it's a smell you never forget, yet a former Police Officer and a Nurse think it might be pizza? Bull Feathers!
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:55 PM
Was it just me or did BC have the look of evil in his eyes also:scared:
about 20 seconds in
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
love the red tie and blue shirt and tan jacket:lol:
I think he's as bad as the A's that one.
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 07:56 PM
I have first hand experience on what a decomposed body smells like.
I managed an apartment complex many many years ago and the tenant had a heart attack and died. 2 days later I kept smelling something horrible all the way in my apartment. I scrubbed floors and took a toothbrush to every nook and cranny for 2 more days. Finally I was walking past his window and nosey me looked in and there were 100's of flies on a birthday cake and it bothered me and I knew maybe something happened. After banging and banging on his door I called the police. The police got there, I gave them the master key and all they did was open the door and then they closed it immediately without even going in and called the coroner.
George is a BIG liar if he claims to have been a detective years ago. That comes with the job. After all those years he had to have come across a decomposed body. He clearly knows what that smell is cause you never forget it. I never did.
Pizza is LUDICROUS! Rotten food in a refrigerator is LUDICROUS!
They both are covering her a** big time for that alone!:cursing:
I've never smelled human decomp but was born and raised in farming country in central IL. I have smelled plenty of animal decomp though and you know it ain't spoiled pizza that was laying out in the sun or moldy food in your fridge.
ConchGirl
05-14-2009, 07:58 PM
The first part you mentioned above was actually the part of the interview that made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV last night. Who does she think shes kidding? Seriously!?? Casey makes up a job so she can spend more time with the "snothead"? Give me a break. I'll tell ya... these Anthonys really are a piece of work. George looked severely uncomfortable the whole time... he did NOT look LK in the eyes much at all when answering questions. Why? Because he wasn't telling the truth.
JMO
Is Conway advising his clients or is Cindy running the show. I can understand how she cut off George's kahunas but why does she have power over the attorney who is not being paid as well as a PI who is not being paid. When and IF the ship comes in do they really think they will share the wealth? moo
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:58 PM
The first part you mentioned above was actually the part of the interview that made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV last night. Who does she think shes kidding? Seriously!?? Casey makes up a job so she can spend more time with the "snothead"? Give me a break. I'll tell ya... these Anthonys really are a piece of work. George looked severely uncomfortable the whole time... he did NOT look LK in the eyes much at all when answering questions. Why? Because he wasn't telling the truth.
JMO
His eyes always dart around like he's looking for the closest way to escape.
101Spots
05-14-2009, 07:58 PM
Not quite O/T: Lisa Nowak (astronaut stalker) has dropped her insanity plea. Relates, as this is also in FL.
Nowak Camp Drops Insanity As Defense (http://www.wesh.com/cnn-news/19463321/detail.html)
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 07:58 PM
The first part you mentioned above was actually the part of the interview that made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV last night. Who does she think shes kidding? Seriously!?? Casey makes up a job so she can spend more time with the "snothead"? Give me a break. I'll tell ya... these Anthonys really are a piece of work. George looked severely uncomfortable the whole time... he did NOT look LK in the eyes much at all when answering questions. Why? Because he wasn't telling the truth.
JMO
They looked uncomfortable as soon as the show opened. I wonder if Larry had just told them what all those papers were? I'm surprised that Cindy didn't keep interrupting him and telling him that she came there to talk to him about the foundation not bloggers! I think they had some forewarning!!
desmom
05-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Definitely! I'm sure that the Milsteads have a lot to do with producing those bears...
It's so silly for them to be making a big production over these bears. First responders have been handing out stuffed toys to children for years! It's been more than 20 years since my ex was a batt. chief in the fire department, but even back then he had a little box in the trunk of the fire department car that had small stuffed animals in it!
Exactly! We had a box of stuffed animals on all the trucks of our little volunteer fire & ems 20 + years ago.
And not one of those stuffed animals had a shirt, a tag or any type of markings identifying the group that donated the animals to the department.
jmo
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Perfect! lol, My mind went blank... hehe
:biggrin::wink:
denjet
05-14-2009, 08:01 PM
:blushing: Wow.. Thank you, bchand! lol, It took me forever to write that thing, what with all the back spacing, deleting and rewriting...
Hi ya Ana :seeya:
Great article ... I left a short comment ...
For anyone who would like to read it:
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:02 PM
The first part you mentioned above was actually the part of the interview that made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV last night. Who does she think shes kidding? Seriously!?? Casey makes up a job so she can spend more time with the "snothead"? Give me a break. I'll tell ya... these Anthonys really are a piece of work. George looked severely uncomfortable the whole time... he did NOT look LK in the eyes much at all when answering questions. Why? Because he wasn't telling the truth.
JMO
seems him and Casey have a problem looking at people in the eyes..I will never forget CA telling her over and over in a visit look me in the eyes KC..lol..first of all she usually had sunglasses on so no one could see her eyes and poor Caylee she had 50 pairs for her did she not want to look in her child's eyes either..IMO GA and KC are so much alike they both do not like to work..she cooks for all her guy friends he watches cooking shows So he says..they both have stolen from CA and many others and then lied about it..and I used to think CA was the worse one they are about equal IMO
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:02 PM
Exactly! We had a box of stuffed animals on all the trucks of our little volunteer fire & ems 20 + years ago.
And not one of those stuffed animals had a shirt, a tag or any type of markings identifying the group that donated the animals to the department.
jmo
Exactly! That shirt is just too much. Why should they need to have advertisement for their phony foundation on those toys if they plan to donate them to the police? It's ridiculous. Around here the Police and Firefighter's Unions sponsor that program and get plenty of response.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:06 PM
talking about them on JVM duh
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:06 PM
Exactly! That shirt is just too much. Why should they need to have advertisement for their phony foundation on those toys if they plan to donate them to the police? It's ridiculous. Around here the Police and Firefighter's Unions sponsor that program and get plenty of response.
I wonder if Orange County will even accept them? Has anyone heard anything on that yet?
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 08:07 PM
Exactly! We had a box of stuffed animals on all the trucks of our little volunteer fire & ems 20 + years ago.
And not one of those stuffed animals had a shirt, a tag or any type of markings identifying the group that donated the animals to the department.
jmo
It was the same with the department my husband was on. There was nothing on the toys that said where they came from. We knew who gave them. Kiwanis, Lions Club, Moose Lodge, Womens' Club, you name it.. The public service clubs made sure that the department never ran out of toys in those boxes in the cars and trucks...
The Caylee bears are an advertisement for Cindy and George's benifit. Nothing else.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 08:07 PM
They knew. They had to know. The whole world knew.
Even Inmate Anthony knew.
JMO
They had to justify their mini-vacation at the Ritz and yummy crab puffs and room service breakfast. They can't admit to having known and then have such a pleasure trip.
I wonder how much the Ritz charges for bottled water in the room.
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 08:08 PM
Hi ya Ana :seeya:
Great article ... I left a short comment ...
For anyone who would like to read it:
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/
Thank you, Denjet... I have an email to Cindy in draft form right now... I just gotta get my courage up enough to hit "send"...
kanzz
05-14-2009, 08:09 PM
dumb question... (and I apologize for being so lazy on this, but I know one of you will have this info handy and it would take me a very long time to find it.)
I'm finally watching the video of LKL from last nite and found something BC said as really curious... he says there was no hair on the duct tape. I thought the reports said there was. Can anybody help me on this one?
TIA - I'll be back later this evening to check in again briefly, but right now I'm on my way to my grandson's preschool program :)
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
Exactly! That shirt is just too much. Why should they need to have advertisement for their phony foundation on those toys if they plan to donate them to the police? It's ridiculous. Around here the Police and Firefighter's Unions sponsor that program and get plenty of response.
I have to wonder if Orange County/Orlando already has this program in place..........
I'll bet they do.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
Yeah, that's the store I'm referring to. My mind went blank.
lol I thought it was I take my niece there all the time..I have not seen the bear up close is there a pic of it..I have not even went on their foundation site...afraid I will get bugs:biggrin:
crimeq
05-14-2009, 08:11 PM
I've gotten the impression for quite some time from things the Ants have said that it's not their choice for the lack of visits to see Casey. I think it is Casey who is refusing the visits, either from her own volition or from orders by Baez. And knowing the Anthonys as we all do now, if I was Casey's defense attorney, I'd prohibit her from seeing her family too. That's because everything the Anthonys do and say seems to hurt Casey's case. And if I was Casey's attorney, I would have wanted that gag order if it would have prevented the Anthonys media tour, because that is also hurting Casey's case. Sometime I have to wonder if the Ants are not doing this in order to get Casey convicted. It sure seems as though they're trying really hard to do so.
In the previously posted Albatross 234 youtubes, that's one of the approaches she takes. They don't want Casey to take a plea because that means she'll talk about what really went down and what the family's involvement is in all of this. Albatross suggests there is something much bigger behind this family. If Casey is convicted, it's likely whatever it is will never come to light.
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:13 PM
I have to wonder if Orange County/Orlando already has this program in place..........
I'll bet they do.
Me too. Why should the A's want to give anything to LE anyway, after all the bad things they've said about them? They are such hypocrites.
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 08:13 PM
dumb question... (and I apologize for being so lazy on this, but I know one of you will have this info handy and it would take me a very long time to find it.)
I'm finally watching the video of LKL from last nite and found something BC said as really curious... he says there was no hair on the duct tape. I thought the reports said there was. Can anybody help me on this one?
TIA - I'll be back later this evening to check in again briefly, but right now I'm on my way to my grandson's preschool program :)
I didn't watch the show last night, nor have I watched the youtube videos.. (I don't wanna! LOL) but if Conway said there was no hair on the tape, he was lying just like the rest of them. The tape was stuck to hair on both sides of the skull. They had to cut the hair to free the tape from what I remember in the reports.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:14 PM
I have to wonder if Orange County/Orlando already has this program in place..........
I'll bet they do.
We do here..
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 08:14 PM
maybe Casey inherited more from the old man than we thought!
She certainly inherited his looks!
Lapis
05-14-2009, 08:15 PM
Definitely! I'm sure that the Milsteads have a lot to do with producing those bears...
It's so silly for them to be making a big production over these bears. First responders have been handing out stuffed toys to children for years! It's been more than 20 years since my ex was a batt. chief in the fire department, but even back then he had a little box in the trunk of the fire department car that had small stuffed animals in it!
But they come from somewhere. I volunteered in a fundraising organization and we donated monies to the local EMT squad so they could purchase the stuffed animals. They are wary of taking stuffed animal donations from the public because they don't know how clean they are and could cause futher health problems to an already sick child. JMO
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:15 PM
dumb question... (and I apologize for being so lazy on this, but I know one of you will have this info handy and it would take me a very long time to find it.)
I'm finally watching the video of LKL from last nite and found something BC said as really curious... he says there was no hair on the duct tape. I thought the reports said there was. Can anybody help me on this one?
TIA - I'll be back later this evening to check in again briefly, but right now I'm on my way to my grandson's preschool program :)
Conway doesn't seem too familiar with the evidence. Either he's relying on Cindy for facts (like she'd know one if she saw it.) or he's making it up as he goes along.
Pruddennce
05-14-2009, 08:15 PM
Yes, ITA. Not even able to say Caylee's sweet little name, just calling her 'that child' drives me crazy.
the entire family has used that phrase, over and over again......
here is George in one of his interviews saying 'Im usually the one that gave 'the little girl' breakfast.....
good grief..
in fact, this entire interview was bogus as to WHEN HE SAW THEM LAST.....he says: 'the next morning, or lets put it this way, like 10 minutes to 1 that afternoon on the 16th is when I actually saw Casey and Caylee together, they are both leaving with backpacks...."........
NOW: who is going to believe that story? he is in the house with the two of them who SUPPOSEDLY were there all nite, sleeping, and he doesnt hear or see his granddaughter until 10 to 1 in the afternoon????
starting at handwritten 2013:
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20aug4.pdf
how I wish LE would have asked him, wait: lets get this straight....they were in the home but you didnt see them until almost 1 in the afternoon when she stated Caylee was going to be with the Nanny OVERNITE, Casey was going to sleep there too, and wouldnt be home until the next day.....
what were they doing all morning, what time did they get up? why didnt you see them until almost 1pm?
....it was an ordinary day, yet, she never returns to your home after the overnite stay with Zanny.
GA lied in that interview....lied and lied....carefully worded...even his written statement is carefully worded.....why would he mention Caylee's birthday in his handwritten statement, simply out of the blue?
he even goes so far as to explain his use of the word 'missing'.......IMO, still making an attempt to COVER for casey as a precaution: IMO, GA's thought process: *hmmm, Caylee just might be hidden from us and Casey is withholding her, possibly a cruel game*.....best say what I mean by "missing' which he did: he writes: *my granddaugher, CMA, age 3 has been missing. what I mean, I havent seen or spoken to her.*
nice cover.
scammer.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence...*
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:17 PM
:scared:OMG Wendy M is going off..yikes.
Anakerie
05-14-2009, 08:18 PM
But they come from somewhere. I volunteered in a fundraising organization and we donated monies to the local EMT squad so they could purchase the stuffed animals. They are wary of taking stuffed animal donations from the public because they don't know how clean they are and could cause futher health problems to an already sick child. JMO
Like I posted upthread,the department my husband was on received the stuffed toys from the local service clubs. They were not used toys. They were brand new and purchased by the different service clubs.. Kiwanis, Lions Club, Moose Lodge, Womens' Clubs, Auxilaries, etc...
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:19 PM
I didn't watch the show last night, nor have I watched the youtube videos.. (I don't wanna! LOL) but if Conway said there was no hair on the tape, he was lying just like the rest of them. The tape was stuck to hair on both sides of the skull. They had to cut the hair to free the tape from what I remember in the reports.
he did say it and did lie about it..well not sure his exact words but more less tried to say it was being leaked out guess he forgot they live in FL the Sunshine Law..duh
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Bwahahahaha! Wendy Murphy yelling at Lenamon telling him "you are being ridiculous and you know why?......
:laugh:
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:21 PM
he did say it and did lie about it..well not sure his exact words but more less tried to say it was being leaked out guess he forgot they live in FL the Sunshine Law..duh
I'm sure he remembers that, he just wants to make it sound like the Prosecution is doing something wrong.
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
Wendy Murphy was great! Both she and the other female TH were saying how these parents are only hurting their daughter's case, going on these shows and not being prepped......
and Wendy Murphy said, "they are giving the judge every reason to say NO WAY, JOSE about a change of venue!!"
:thumbup:
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
He does have darting eyes, doesn't he?
Can we say "Shifty"?
Former LE and he is starting to put me in the mind of Drew Peterson!
That is very scary.
Shifty is a good word! I see the comparison between Geo. and his mannerisms and DP, you're right.
desmom
05-14-2009, 08:25 PM
dumb question... (and I apologize for being so lazy on this, but I know one of you will have this info handy and it would take me a very long time to find it.)
I'm finally watching the video of LKL from last nite and found something BC said as really curious... he says there was no hair on the duct tape. I thought the reports said there was. Can anybody help me on this one?
TIA - I'll be back later this evening to check in again briefly, but right now I'm on my way to my grandson's preschool program :)
Page 5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf
The skull appeared to be that of a small child. The duct tape over the mouth area of the skull appears to have caught up the hair along the side of the skull. This is what appears to have kept the tape in place. The hair had to be cut in order for the tape to be properly removed in the way it was found. On the tape within a black oval was written the word "Henkel". Also written on the tape was "Consumer Adhesives Inc. max temp 200 f Avon Ohio 44011." The tape was affixed to the skull in such a manner that the mandible was still adjacent to the skull.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:26 PM
Like I posted upthread,the department my husband was on received the stuffed toys from the local service clubs. They were not used toys. They were brand new and purchased by the different service clubs.. Kiwanis, Lions Club, Moose Lodge, Womens' Clubs, Auxilaries, etc...
I think Kiwanis donates them here..my BIL is a member and
at a DV shelter I volunteer at they give them to the kids I will have to see how they get them not sure what club donates them but they are not used either..
velvetbrown
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
What is difficult to digest is the fact that Cindy/George Anthony (in the beginning) bragged about how close they were to Caylee. So close that she called Cindy Momma. In addition, we know that Cindy wanted custody of Caylee because her biological mother and Cindy's own daughter was not being a mother to Caylee.
Now, how things change. I could see if her daughter was accused of murdering some stranger on the street but Cindy's pride and joy. Her own granddaughter who called her Momma. I would have cornered Casey way before I called the police and stayed with her until she told me something that either sounded possible if I really knew it was impossible Casey would harm her own baby.
Cindy was livid in the beginning of all this until she realized Casey had to have murdered her own daughter. Cindy knows exactly what occurred on the night she last seen Casey and Caylee.
Excellent post! ITA
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Page 5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf
The skull appeared to be that of a small child. The duct tape over the mouth area of the skull appears to have caught up the hair along the side of the skull. This is what appears to have kept the tape in place. The hair had to be cut in order for the tape to be properly removed in the way it was found. On the tape within a black oval was written the word "Henkel". Also written on the tape was "Consumer Adhesives Inc. max temp 200 f Avon Ohio 44011." The tape was affixed to the skull in such a manner that the mandible was still adjacent to the skull.
I cannot believe what I heard....is JVM correct???
JVM said that "the lab report said there was no residue of any kind on the duct tape and is this an example of how the media takes things and runs wth it?"
:confused::confused:
ConchGirl
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Page 5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf
The skull appeared to be that of a small child. The duct tape over the mouth area of the skull appears to have caught up the hair along the side of the skull. This is what appears to have kept the tape in place. The hair had to be cut in order for the tape to be properly removed in the way it was found. On the tape within a black oval was written the word "Henkel". Also written on the tape was "Consumer Adhesives Inc. max temp 200 f Avon Ohio 44011." The tape was affixed to the skull in such a manner that the mandible was still adjacent to the skull.
Thank you for that Des. Conway lied just like the Anthony's. Who are they trying to kid? They make me ill. moo
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:29 PM
What is difficult to digest is the fact that Cindy/George Anthony (in the beginning) bragged about how close they were to Caylee. So close that she called Cindy Momma. In addition, we know that Cindy wanted custody of Caylee because her biological mother and Cindy's own daughter was not being a mother to Caylee.
Now, how things change. I could see if her daughter was accused of murdering some stranger on the street but Cindy's pride and joy. Her own granddaughter who called her Momma. I would have cornered Casey way before I called the police and stayed with her until she told me something that either sounded possible if I really knew it was impossible Casey would harm her own baby.
Cindy was livid in the beginning of all this until she realized Casey had to have murdered her own daughter. Cindy knows exactly what occurred on the night she last seen Casey and Caylee.
IIRC Lee said that when Cindy heard Casey say she hadn't seen Caylee in 31 days, Cindy said "what have you done?". That, my friends, is when I think the truth hit Cindy in the face. Up until that point, even though she had smelled the car, I don't think she knew Caylee was dead until she said what she did to Casey: what have you done?
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Page 5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf
The skull appeared to be that of a small child. The duct tape over the mouth area of the skull appears to have caught up the hair along the side of the skull. This is what appears to have kept the tape in place. The hair had to be cut in order for the tape to be properly removed in the way it was found. On the tape within a black oval was written the word "Henkel". Also written on the tape was "Consumer Adhesives Inc. max temp 200 f Avon Ohio 44011." The tape was affixed to the skull in such a manner that the mandible was still adjacent to the skull.
des can you forward that on to BC please since he has failed to read what we have..thank you for posting that seems they feel we are all so stupid..
crimeq
05-14-2009, 08:31 PM
his way of dealing was to file for divorce 4 months after Caylee was born.
what changed his mind? his sophomoric brain and realizing he couldnt live on his own emotionally? ...... even though HE would be the one entitled to alimony....ahhh the dynamics of a dysfunctional family....and a small child dead as a result of their uninvolvement in her daily life ensuring her well-being.....toys, food and a roof doesnt count....
IMO of course.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....and what marinewife5 said........*
This is interesting. If Cindy took him back only because she didn't like the looks of her financial obligation to him if they divorced, well--why did George want to come back? Having gone that far, I'd think he'd want to continue and get half the house and alimony from Cindy!
In another of the Albatross234 tapes, she indicates that this period away from the family is when George lost the $35,000-40,000. I don't know that I've ever heard the time frame on that. She had an interesting idea about it, though--that even George wasn't stupid enough to get involved in the Nigerian scheme so that wasn't how he lost the money; questionable if he lost it gambling; she suggested that George had a woman friend during those months, and spent it on her. When going back home to Cindy, and he had "lost" all this money--would he rather tell Cindy he lost it gambling, or that he spent the family money on a woman? Albi thought George would opt for looking stupid re: gambling loss or Nigerian scheme rather than tell Cindy the family fortune had gone on another woman. Just speculation on Albi's part, but I thought it was an interesting idea.
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:32 PM
Ooops.......where is Wendy Murphy? She's no longer on the JVM panel?
Lenamon saying this is a coping situation for the Ant's. If he were there lawyer he would tell them this should not be played out in the press.
I am sick of the "coping" stories...
imo
crimeq
05-14-2009, 08:35 PM
Some people cry when they are furious. I think Cindy was pretty well enraged by the end of LKL.
What do you want to bet Casey always cried when she didn't get her way as a child?
If this blind tour continues, Cindy isn't going to be able to hold it together and project the nice, calm Cindy (because it doesn't exist). She nearly lost it several times on LKL last night and her face was so easily read, her fingers were tap-tap-tapping, she was welling up with anger. She will not make it. Actually I'd love to see her lose it on her good will, drum up dollars tour. I'd contribute a toy bear to her foundation if I could see that :biggrin:
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 08:36 PM
Hi seeing! (bolding mine)
I feel the same way, George and Cindy are of no use to her now, they can't bond her out and help in anyway to get her out of there ... she DID go against Baez's advice of not taking a visit from them again when she was in jail the first time ... why did she go against him? because she was still working on them to guilt them into getting her out on bond ...
Now why Baez isn't telling them to shut up and stay off of TV is a mystery ... he can't possibly think they are helping !!
Either Jose is too dumb to know the Ants are hurting Casey's case by their media tour or he's told them to shut up and they refuse to take his advice. My guess is the first reason since Jose fought against the gag order.
LOL The picture is here..not on their foundation site.
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/19459151/detail.html
I haven't been there either. I don't want the Anthony cootties.
Ha Ha - cootties. We used to use the word "cootties" all then time when we were growing up. Ew...cootties.
imo
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:38 PM
Lenamon saying this is a coping situation for the Ant's. If he were there lawyer he would tell them this should not be played out in the press.
I am sick of the "coping" stories...
imo
Me too, AMS! But I think JVM did a good job putting the kibosh on this nonsense by playing a conversation between Casey and Lee and Casey telling him she felt in her gut that Caylee was OK.
So why was she grieving if she felt in her gut that Caylee was OK??
:rolleyes:
denjet
05-14-2009, 08:38 PM
yes you are right. but what Cindy 'doesnt get': that photo was taken friday nite, after her 'babysitter stole Caylee'. so she plans her week as usual, rents movies the NITE OF the KIDNAPPING, sends out global texts, Come to Fusion, non stop phone use, etc etc. all in the name of 'might have been in shock', or grieving the best she could'...OMG. while she was WORKING at Fusion....LOL
so the shock held on for the rest of the month, when she did lunch, got a tattoo, committed fraud against her best friend, stole food from her parents house, cook, cleaned Tony's apartment, while using her 'other resources' to look for Caylee: in the bank? in Target? in her parents' fridge? in Tony's apt? in Amy's apt?
Cindy would like everyone to believe Casey was somehow, some way, looking for her daughter.....rightttttttttttttt.......
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
Hi Pru, well put!
Cindy would like to explain KC's pole dancing, etc. as some sort of promotional job ... she's partly right on the promo part :sneaky:
Just one picture that Cindy will talk about, but, what about the one of KC in the black dress hanging all over Tony ?? I know a lot of the pictures out there are not of the time frame when Caylee was missing, but it did show what kind of a irresponsible party girl KC was as a young mother ... why Cindy even tries to defend those pictures I can't understand !
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:39 PM
Either Jose is too dumb to know the Ants are hurting Casey's case by their media tour or he's told them to shut up and they refuse to take his advice. My guess is the first reason since Jose fought against the gag order.
JB isn't the brightest bulb on the string. He probably sees nothing wrong with the A's constantly courting publicity, because he does it himself.
desmom
05-14-2009, 08:39 PM
I cannot believe what I heard....is JVM correct???
JVM said that "the lab report said there was no residue of any kind on the duct tape and is this an example of how the media takes things and runs wth it?"
:confused::confused:
JVM is often :confused: by the reports imo...
page 5 - 6 http://cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/fbireport.pdf
desmom
05-14-2009, 08:42 PM
des can you forward that on to BC please since he has failed to read what we have..thank you for posting that seems they feel we are all so stupid..
BC really should read the reports before he does anymore interviews with the A's. His little mis-statements are not doing much for his reputation as an attorney imo.
Me too, AMS! But I think JVM did a good job putting the kibosh on this nonsense by playing a conversation between Casey and Lee and Casey telling him she felt in her gut that Caylee was OK.
So why was she grieving if she felt in her gut that Caylee was OK??
:rolleyes:
Geez - I missed the first half of the show, Wendy Murphy and all :sad:
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:46 PM
JVM is often :confused: by the reports imo...
page 5 - 6 http://cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/fbireport.pdf
You could have stopped with just "JVM is often :confused:". Some of these hosts just don't do their homework!
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:48 PM
Either Jose is too dumb to know the Ants are hurting Casey's case by their media tour or he's told them to shut up and they refuse to take his advice. My guess is the first reason since Jose fought against the gag order.
I think JB is just inexperienced and does things without thinking it through or he just really doesn't care about his client. I can't help but think that is why he was opposed to the gag order. He wanted it all out in the limelight for his own exposure.
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:50 PM
my bold
I believe a blank cheque is acceptable.
How about one from Amy's checkbook? Oh that was bad, I know, I feel so sorry for Amy as I do anyone else that Casey lured into her web of lies. But most of them said all along that they thought she was lying about little things. I don't tolerate that kind of friend in my life.
bchand
05-14-2009, 08:50 PM
And I have looked and looked to find that same bear and have not been able to find that one, but some places give you like an option to dress them and design them, kinda like that place in the mall ... Create your own bear or something like that.
IMO they have signed up with one of them to manufacture these bears.
I found a few you could personalize for $3, $4, $5 and $6.
Here, I made one for them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/AnthonyBear.jpg
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:51 PM
You could have stopped with just "JVM is often :confused:". Some of these hosts just don't do their homework!
They certainly don't, and JVM has been one who hasn't from the beginning.
bchand
05-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Bwahahahaha! Wendy Murphy yelling at Lenamon telling him "you are being ridiculous and you know why?......
:laugh:
Oh nooo I missed that.
And he thought the Nancy Grace show was bad.
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Wendy Murphy was great! Both she and the other female TH were saying how these parents are only hurting their daughter's case, going on these shows and not being prepped......
and Wendy Murphy said, "they are giving the judge every reason to say NO WAY, JOSE about a change of venue!!"
:thumbup:
No cable here, so will watch YouTube later.
However, I thought that Cindy did something very blatent towards the end of the LKL interview. LK asked the A's if they had any optimism and Cindy replied that they had hope.
Hope that the jurors would respond appropriately to the evidence.
It seemed to me that she was intentionally speaking directly to potential jurors.
In all of the talk of tainting the jury pool, from both sides, I believe that this was the first instance of anyone intentionally directing a remark to a potential juror. Cindy did that on national television, broadcast from LA.
I think that remark from Cindy could be the final nail in the coffin of any COV hopes that Baez is entertaining.
Strickland has spoken before on the futility of trying to contain information after the fact in this internet age of mass communications.
jmho
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:53 PM
I found a few you could personalize for $3, $4, $5 and $6.
Here, I made one for them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/AnthonyBear.jpg
That is funny, but in reality, who would want to hire them now? Not just all of their lies but knowing an upcoming trial would take up so much time. I doubt they could even get a job if they tried, especially with unemployment so bad right now. If employers do hire, they want the cream of the crop, not the manure that grew it.
TunaMelt
05-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Hi Pru, well put!
Cindy would like to explain KC's pole dancing, etc. as some sort of promotional job ... she's partly right on the promo part :sneaky:
Just one picture that Cindy will talk about, but, what about the one of KC in the black dress hanging all over Tony ?? I know a lot of the pictures out there are not of the time frame when Caylee was missing, but it did show what kind of a irresponsible party girl KC was as a young mother ... why Cindy even tries to defend those pictures I can't understand !
How about the party when she chose to deck herself out in the American flag?
When did that party happen?:confused:
I'm sure Caylee was alive when she went to that one -- IIRC, I mean.
Because I worried that Caylee was knocked out somewhere while her World Class Mother drank beer and posed for the cameras.
:thumbdown:
velvetbrown
05-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Woooooo... just read the LKL transcripts...i get dizzy just READING them (Ants) spin. How do they not fall over?
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 08:54 PM
They both make me think that they know more than what they are telling and think that they are good at it and are very comfortable with their half truths.
But George is gonna break. He IMO was honest at the GJ hearing, but has since been backed into a corner by Cindy.
I wondered about him early on, but since then I've come to the conclusion that he's just like Cindy and going along because he wants too. I think a lot of the looks are because they really don't care for each other, but are staying together for the sake of the money.
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:55 PM
No cable here, so will watch YouTube later.
However, I thought that Cindy did something very blatent towards the end of the LKL interview. LK asked the A's if they had any optimism and Cindy replied that they had hope.
Hope that the jurors would respond appropriately to the evidence.
It seemed to me that she was intentionally speaking directly to potential jurors.
In all of the talk of tainting the jury pool, from both sides, I believe that this was the first instance of anyone intentionally directing a remark to a potential juror. Cindy did that on national television, broadcast from LA.
I think that remark from Cindy could be the final nail in the coffin of any COV hopes that Baez is entertaining.
Strickland has spoken before on the futility of trying to contain information after the fact in this internet age of mass communications.
jmho
IIRC she said something about she just hoped the jurors would remember their oath! (I know because last night when I posted that I mispelled oath and before I could edit it someone had already quoted me!)
gaelicpeas
05-14-2009, 08:57 PM
This is interesting. If Cindy took him back only because she didn't like the looks of her financial obligation to him if they divorced, well--why did George want to come back? Having gone that far, I'd think he'd want to continue and get half the house and alimony from Cindy!
In another of the Albatross234 tapes, she indicates that this period away from the family is when George lost the $35,000-40,000. I don't know that I've ever heard the time frame on that. She had an interesting idea about it, though--that even George wasn't stupid enough to get involved in the Nigerian scheme so that wasn't how he lost the money; questionable if he lost it gambling; she suggested that George had a woman friend during those months, and spent it on her. When going back home to Cindy, and he had "lost" all this money--would he rather tell Cindy he lost it gambling, or that he spent the family money on a woman? Albi thought George would opt for looking stupid re: gambling loss or Nigerian scheme rather than tell Cindy the family fortune had gone on another woman. Just speculation on Albi's part, but I thought it was an interesting idea.Although I think the above is a possibility... I sort of think that maybe Casey was responsible for all of this money being missing (and I think it was way up in the thousands, maybe 30K), and one parent was playing her against the other. Which leads me to think that one parent was "more" on Casey's side than the other one. I am still up in the air as to which one, though, although I am leaning one way. The key evidence which points to this is that recovered email from Cindy to Casey early July 15 or late July 14 where she states "I don't know who/what to believe" in reference to apparently somebody being in the house or something. She says that George states he wasn't there... JMO and speculation.
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 08:57 PM
Ok, Nancy is coming up, and I'm still TV-less, so I'm relying on a quote by quote description! Here we go......
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 08:57 PM
Geez - I missed the first half of the show, Wendy Murphy and all :sad:
It was good - no one was buying what the Anthonys were selling on LKL!
TunaMelt
05-14-2009, 08:58 PM
I wondered about him early on, but since then I've come to the conclusion that he's just like Cindy and going along because he wants too. I think a lot of the looks are because they really don't care for each other, but are staying together for the sake of the money.
I really think he needs her. Needs. Like he likes being told what a jerk he is, and she's more than willing to do that for him, for all of their lives.
They have a strange relationship for sure, a sick relationship IMO, but they need each other. George more than Cindy, but she needs someone to beat up in a sense, and he needs to be taken care of, even if he gets "beat up" in the process.
Sado-masochistic, I think that's what it is.
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 08:59 PM
Like they are gonna be holding evidence. The LE took that into evidence. I saw the pictures and all and it is part of discovery.
They must think the general public are just plain stupid. Even if you had not been keeping up with this case, you can hear George and Cindy tripping all over themselves with their answers to Larry.
JMO
Are we sure LE has the actual diary in evidence? IIRC, they only took a picture of it when they were searching the Ant's house. And it is the picture they have in evidence.
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
No cable here, so will watch YouTube later.
However, I thought that Cindy did something very blatent towards the end of the LKL interview. LK asked the A's if they had any optimism and Cindy replied that they had hope.
Hope that the jurors would respond appropriately to the evidence.
It seemed to me that she was intentionally speaking directly to potential jurors.
In all of the talk of tainting the jury pool, from both sides, I believe that this was the first instance of anyone intentionally directing a remark to a potential juror. Cindy did that on national television, broadcast from LA.
I think that remark from Cindy could be the final nail in the coffin of any COV hopes that Baez is entertaining.
Strickland has spoken before on the futility of trying to contain information after the fact in this internet age of mass communications.
jmho
Yes, Cindy commented about the jurors upholding their oath......UGH! She is a tremendous manipulator and I do hope Stickland is listening!
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
I really think he needs her. Needs. Like he likes being told what a jerk he is, and she's more than willing to do that for him, for all of their lives.
They have a strange relationship for sure, a sick relationship IMO, but they need each other. George more than Cindy, but she needs someone to beat up in a sense, and he needs to be taken care of, even if he gets "beat up" in the process.
Sado-masochistic, I think that's what it is.
Co-dependant too.
desmom
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
How about the party when she chose to deck herself out in the American flag?
When did that party happen?:confused:
I'm sure Caylee was alive when she went to that one -- IIRC, I mean.
Because I worried that Caylee was knocked out somewhere while her World Class Mother drank beer and posed for the cameras.
:thumbdown:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17564904/detail.html
May 25 “Anything But Clothes Party”
Party Pics http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/17564824/detail.html
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
Either Jose is too dumb to know the Ants are hurting Casey's case by their media tour or he's told them to shut up and they refuse to take his advice. My guess is the first reason since Jose fought against the gag order.
see_eye, you may be correct, but I think that it is the second reason you give.
I don't think that C&G and Jose are on good terms and I don't think that he has any control over what they do.
Conway has little to no control over them himself and NeJame quit representing C&G because they refused to follow his advice.
I also think that Baez wants all of the media attention focused on Jose, and doesn't like it when C&G are in the limelight.
I believe that C&G don't visit Casey because Jose has forbidden Casey to agree to their visitation.
C&G would never in a million years say that they don't visit Casey because she refuses to see them!
I remember it was news the first few times that Casey refused family visits.
jmho
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:01 PM
I found a few you could personalize for $3, $4, $5 and $6.
Here, I made one for them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/AnthonyBear.jpg
Priceless! :laugh:
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:01 PM
Are we sure LE has the actual diary in evidence? IIRC, they only took a picture of it when they were searching the Ant's house. And it is the picture they have in evidence.
So was that 2003 in the original photograph taken by the CSI or did it just happen to appear later? I noticed BC said that neither the state or the defense wanted it for forensics.
desmom
05-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Ok, Nancy is coming up, and I'm still TV-less, so I'm relying on a quote by quote description! Here we go......
She is covering the Coleman case - Mom and 2 sons killed in Columbia, IL.
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Oh nooo I missed that.
And he thought the Nancy Grace show was bad.
Wendy Murphy BATTERED him!!! :laugh:
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:03 PM
She is covering the Coleman case - Mom and 2 sons killed in Columbia, IL.
Where is Columbia? Close to what other town/city.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:04 PM
I had some meatloaf go bad in my refrigerator. It stunk so bad I had to start a foundation. You're soooooo lucky you have no tragedy in your life.
:biggrin:
:lol::lol:
really3997
05-14-2009, 09:04 PM
safe to come out and play.....
gaelicpeas
05-14-2009, 09:04 PM
I really think he needs her. Needs. Like he likes being told what a jerk he is, and she's more than willing to do that for him, for all of their lives.
They have a strange relationship for sure, a sick relationship IMO, but they need each other. George more than Cindy, but she needs someone to beat up in a sense, and he needs to be taken care of, even if he gets "beat up" in the process.
Sado-masochistic, I think that's what it is.Speaking of "beat-up", I thought George looked like he had a black eye. His left eye (or his right as we are viewing it in the pics). Take a look at the pics that somebody posted of last night's interview with LKL. Sorry, don't have the link handy, but I will go look for it. JMO
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:04 PM
Woooooo... just read the LKL transcripts...i get dizzy just READING them (Ants) spin. How do they not fall over?
I just reread it too velvetbrown. Who believes this line?
KING: What's the bear for?
C. ANTHONY: What the bear is for -- our first project is kind of like a thank you back to law enforcement agencies. Especially we're going to start with Orange County.
How many times have they dissed the Orange County Police? What are they thanking them for?
They need to start with "I'm sorry."
Ok, Nancy is coming up, and I'm still TV-less, so I'm relying on a quote by quote description! Here we go......
She is going to focus on the triple murder of the mom and 2 sons in IL, a 6 month old that was drunk and the Myrtle Beach story. No mention of the A's.
~Dramatica~
05-14-2009, 09:05 PM
Hi Pru, well put!
Cindy would like to explain KC's pole dancing, etc. as some sort of promotional job ... she's partly right on the promo part :sneaky:
Just one picture that Cindy will talk about, but, what about the one of KC in the black dress hanging all over Tony ?? I know a lot of the pictures out there are not of the time frame when Caylee was missing, but it did show what kind of a irresponsible party girl KC was as a young mother ... why Cindy even tries to defend those pictures I can't understand !
Cindy: I have proof that Casey did have a job. As any proud mother would say.
gaelicpeas
05-14-2009, 09:06 PM
see_eye, you may be correct, but I think that it is the second reason you give.
I don't think that C&G and Jose are on good terms and I don't think that he has any control over what they do.
Conway has little to no control over them himself and NeJame quit representing C&G because they refused to follow his advice.
I also think that Baez wants all of the media attention focused on Jose, and doesn't like it when C&G are in the limelight.
I believe that C&G don't visit Casey because Jose has forbidden Casey to agree to their visitation.
C&G would never in a million years say that they don't visit Casey because she refuses to see them!
I remember it was news the first few times that Casey refused family visits.
jmhoI agree with everything you said... except I think Jose hopes C&G continue their media tour because it is making it easier for him to direct an accusation at them (aka, throw them under the bus). JMO
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 09:06 PM
Ooops.......where is Wendy Murphy? She's no longer on the JVM panel?
She was sent to band camp...:biggrin:
gaelicpeas
05-14-2009, 09:07 PM
So was that 2003 in the original photograph taken by the CSI or did it just happen to appear later? I noticed BC said that neither the state or the defense wanted it for forensics.Good question...
desmom
05-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Where is Columbia? Close to what other town/city.
Suburb of St. Louis. It is about 15 miles south of the Arch on the IL side of the Mississippi. Population around 10,000.
sunstar
05-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Ok, Nancy is coming up, and I'm still TV-less, so I'm relying on a quote by quote description! Here we go......
She's not talking about Caylee tonight. :sad:
O/T per NG - there is a GOD. The 4 year old girl that was snatched from her lawn in TX was found alive!!! The snatcher was a sexual predator.
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 09:09 PM
IIRC she said something about she just hoped the jurors would remember their oath! (I know because last night when I posted that I mispelled oath and before I could edit it someone had already quoted me!)
OK, I better look at the transcript.
Even so, to me, it sounds like Cindy is speaking to and advising potential jurors.:sneaky:
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:11 PM
Suburb of St. Louis. It is about 15 miles south of the Arch on the IL side of the Mississippi. Population around 10,000.
Ok, I can almost pinpoint that exactly. Thanks! Since Nancy isn't doing anything on the A's tonight I think I'll drop out for the evening. I appreciate all of the informational links you all provide on a daily basis. That is my first stop every day, before I hit the last page of posts for the day. So I'll be on the look out tomorrow! Keep us updated! (I appreciate the bits of humor too)
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 09:12 PM
I just reread it too velvetbrown. Who believes this line?
KING: What's the bear for?
C. ANTHONY: What the bear is for -- our first project is kind of like a thank you back to law enforcement agencies. Especially we're going to start with Orange County.
How many times have they dissed the Orange County Police? What are they thanking them for?
They need to start with "I'm sorry."
Oh but don't forget, Cindy is still waiting for an apology from former OCSO Sheriff Beary!
myownopera
05-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Cindy: I have proof that Casey did have a job. As any proud mother would say.
I thought I saw the entire show, but I don't remember Cindy saying that!! PROOF of Casey having a job?? GMAB
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
OK, I better look at the transcript.
Even so, to me, it sounds like Cindy is speaking to and advising potential jurors.:sneaky:
Oh, I agree! As soon as she said it I knew she was speaking directly to potential jurors, putting the guilt trip on them!!
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
O/T per NG - there is a GOD. The 4 year old girl that was snatched from her lawn in TX was found alive!!! The snatcher was a sexual predator.
Great news for a change!
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:14 PM
I thought I saw the entire show, but I don't remember Cindy saying that!! PROOF of Casey having a job?? GMAB
Don't you remember the night she was working at Fusion in her blue dress and black boots?
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Witchy, here is the bear at the memorial, shamrock and all. :rolleyes:
http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2750913_72667_4765843_main.jpg
It is bigger then the one they had last night but I too think that is where they got the idea.
imo
I bet that's a cremains bear and Caylee's ashes are in it
http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html
IM4Truth
05-14-2009, 09:17 PM
I bet that's a cremains bear and Caylee's ashes are in it
http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html
I think most of us agreed on that the day of the memorial! Looks like we top 1000 so someone better start a new thread. Time for me to really go now.
cassidy
05-14-2009, 09:18 PM
I just reread it too velvetbrown. Who believes this line?
KING: What's the bear for?
C. ANTHONY: What the bear is for -- our first project is kind of like a thank you back to law enforcement agencies. Especially we're going to start with Orange County.
How many times have they dissed the Orange County Police? What are they thanking them for?
They need to start with "I'm sorry."
I thought the same thing. They owe OCSD and Le a HUGE apology, not a bear.
JMO
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Witchy, here is the bear at the memorial, shamrock and all. :rolleyes:
http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2750913_72667_4765843_main.jpg
It is bigger then the one they had last night but I too think that is where they got the idea.
imo
Google "police teddy bear" and you'll come up with a list of hits from all over the country.
Here's one: http://www.plano.gov/DEPARTMENTS/POLICE/CITIZEN%20PROGRAMS/Pages/teddy_bears.aspx
Sheesh, George probably remembers this from a long, long time ago when he was a sheriff's deputy. The Anthonys are hardly original thinkers.
Also if they NEVER donated a bear, nobody would know because there are already so many organizations that do. What they neglected to do wouldn't even be missed.
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Oh, I agree! As soon as she said it I knew she was speaking directly to potential jurors, putting the guilt trip on them!!
Here it is from the transcript:
KING: Are you at all -- any air of optimism about this?
C. ANTHONY: Yes, I think if people do the right thing and they take the oath as a juror, and do the right thing and listen to the evidence, you know --
KING: So you have hope? C. ANTHONY: Absolutely.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html
~Dramatica~
05-14-2009, 09:23 PM
Google "police teddy bear" and you'll come up with a list of hits from all over the country.
Here's one: http://www.plano.gov/DEPARTMENTS/POLICE/CITIZEN%20PROGRAMS/Pages/teddy_bears.aspx
Sheesh, George probably remembers this from a long, long time ago when he was a sheriff's deputy. The Anthonys are hardly original thinkers.
Also if they NEVER donated a bear, nobody would know because there are already so many organizations that do. What they neglected to do wouldn't even be missed.
Bold is mine. That's an understatement. Does anyone else remember the Anthony's throwing away the stuffed animals that people left for Caylee? And now they want to pass them out. jmho
denjet
05-14-2009, 09:27 PM
What is difficult to digest is the fact that Cindy/George Anthony (in the beginning) bragged about how close they were to Caylee. So close that she called Cindy Momma. In addition, we know that Cindy wanted custody of Caylee because her biological mother and Cindy's own daughter was not being a mother to Caylee.
Now, how things change. I could see if her daughter was accused of murdering some stranger on the street but Cindy's pride and joy. Her own granddaughter who called her Momma. I would have cornered Casey way before I called the police and stayed with her until she told me something that either sounded possible if I really knew it was impossible Casey would harm her own baby.
Cindy was livid in the beginning of all this until she realized Casey had to have murdered her own daughter. Cindy knows exactly what occurred on the night she last seen Casey and Caylee.
Hi Dianna! Great post!
Exactly ... Cindy knew period. She did the math (31 days) which was right after the big fight (that she now says didn't happen) ... IMO Cindy and George knew Caylee was dead before KC was bonded out the first time she was in jail...
myownopera
05-14-2009, 09:28 PM
Don't you remember the night she was working at Fusion in her blue dress and black boots?
hammer - how could I be so stupid --- of course she had a job!! What ITW was I thinking???
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 09:28 PM
I've never smelled human decomp but was born and raised in farming country in central IL. I have smelled plenty of animal decomp though and you know it ain't spoiled pizza that was laying out in the sun or moldy food in your fridge.
I don't know about Cindy's refrigerator, but I've had lots of spoiled food, including meat, in my refrigerator, but none of it smelled like something had died in it. I've smelled decomposing animals while at a landfill or a feed lot and nothing in my refrigerator ever smelled that bad. I even had a steak spoil once in my refrigerator and it didn't come close to smelling like a dead animal carcass. I think it's because the steak doesn't have all the internal organs to spoil with it.
sunstar
05-14-2009, 09:30 PM
I bet that's a cremains bear and Caylee's ashes are in it
http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html
I think so too and I also think they have jewelry ~ like the bracelet Lee was wearing & kissing at the memorial. MOO
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:31 PM
Bold is mine. That's an understatement. Does anyone else remember the Anthony's throwing away the stuffed animals that people left for Caylee? And now they want to pass them out. jmho
Yep, we talked about that when Cindy pulled out the teddy bear last night.
Ironic isn't it?
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:31 PM
Hi everyone!
I watched the CNN video of last night's LKL interview.
CNN edited out at least 2 parts of the program that I noticed.
1. The name and address of the Caylee Marie Anthony foundation
CNN took that plug for $$$ outta there.
2. That awful song is not included
That brought the CNN version in at about 32 minutes! :w00t:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/14/lkl.anthonys.long.cnn
Yes :thumbsup: Cindy will not be happy.
I'm one of probably very many bloggers who wrote to LKL and let them know that the non-profit is "pending" and therefore they really cannot be soliciting donations legally. (I wrote the same to Cindy.)
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 09:32 PM
Is Conway advising his clients or is Cindy running the show. I can understand how she cut off George's kahunas but why does she have power over the attorney who is not being paid as well as a PI who is not being paid. When and IF the ship comes in do they really think they will share the wealth? moo
I don't think Cindy and Conway always agree because Conway said on LKL that he saw nothing wrong with the Anthonys visiting Casey in jail. But the Anthonys definitely stated they saw something wrong with it. Now whether they were telling the truth or not is anybody's guess.
sunstar
05-14-2009, 09:32 PM
I don't know about Cindy's refrigerator, but I've had lots of spoiled food, including meat, in my refrigerator, but none of it smelled like something had died in it. I've smelled decomposing animals while at a landfill or a feed lot and nothing in my refrigerator ever smelled that bad. I even had a steak spoil once in my refrigerator and it didn't come close to smelling like a dead animal carcass. I think it's because the steak doesn't have all the internal organs to spoil with it.
Exactly! I can't imagine what food she could've been referring to in her refrigerator that would smell like a decomposing human body which was concealed in a car trunk during the summer. :sneaky: MOO
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:33 PM
Build a Bear we have one here I love it..but it is not all just bears all kinds of animals..
http://www.buildabear.com/shop/browsecategory.aspx?CallingPage=BrowseCategory&Category=Bears
that bear she had last night looked cheap and build a bear they are far from cheap looking..you can go online and order 100 cheap bears for 50 bucks..or less...but I have not seen it close up just last night on LKL
Yep, she can probably get bears in bulk from China for less than 25-cents apiece. Maybe lots less than 25-cents.
bluwaters
05-14-2009, 09:33 PM
Yes :thumbsup: Cindy will not be happy.
I'm one of probably very many bloggers who wrote to LKL and let them know that the non-profit is "pending" and therefore they really cannot be soliciting donations legally. (I wrote the same to Cindy.)
Good for you! :thumbup:
Unfortunately, the info is included in the transcript from the show. :glare:
desmom
05-14-2009, 09:34 PM
Bold is mine. That's an understatement. Does anyone else remember the Anthony's throwing away the stuffed animals that people left for Caylee? And now they want to pass them out. jmho
Yep, it was the lst week of August.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17099420/detail.html
The Anthony family was also seen throwing out a number of stuffed animals, Tuesday, but Lee Anthony said they were toys that had been donated to the family during the ordeal and none belonged to Caylee.
"We don't want to make it sound like were not thankful for all the stuff, because we are, it was something we tried but could not put to use," Lee said.
Lee also said they considered donating them, but they were in poor condition.
sunstar
05-14-2009, 09:34 PM
Yep, we talked about that when Cindy pulled out the teddy bear last night.
Ironic isn't it?
Well, I remember somebody saying the stuffed animals smelled like smoke. :smile: But I guess after she washed Casey's pinstripe pants they completely lost the odor of a dead body?
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:36 PM
You are prolly right.
I'm sure KFN does the t-shirts for the bears, at least -- their printing facilities would have silk-screening equipment or could get it easily.
Just LOVE that the foundation website addy is prominently displayed on the t-shirts. The Ants don't miss a step if it can bring them $$$.
They looked so dumb and dumber last night on LKL. I was amazed that Cindy couldn't even talk about the purpose of her foundation. She should have had a neat little canned promo for that all ready to go. So she screwed up yet again. Does my heart good.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:39 PM
This place sells bears very cheap - as low as 12 for $15.99. They have several models, and I'm sure they would do custom orders.
Oriental Trading Company (http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/search/processRequest.do?Ipp=16&No=0&D=teddy+bears&Ntt=teddy+bears&Ntk=all&Dx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&Ntx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&y=0&N=0&requestURI=searchMain&x=0)
And that's not even wholesale, or bulk ordering. They would be paying pennies for the bears, but I think you nailed the type they're using, exactly. Thanks!
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:42 PM
Sorry you had to smell that Dianna! How awful. You're right about the A's lying. Everyone says it's a smell you never forget, yet a former Police Officer and a Nurse think it might be pizza? Bull Feathers!
A woman died in my condo complex and was undiscovered for 4 days. Police had to break down her door, and people said the decomp odor poured out and lingered in the outside air all over the condo complex grounds for several days! Luckily, I was out of town on business so I escaped, but neighbors talked about it for months. The lady lived across the street from me so I'm sure had I been there, I would have wanted to check into a hotel for a few days.
The worst I've ever smelled was a big dog that had died a couple of days before, and that was an intense smell, but supposedly nothing like human decomp odor.
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:43 PM
Well, I remember somebody saying the stuffed animals smelled like smoke. :smile: But I guess after she washed Casey's pinstripe pants they completely lost the odor of a dead body?
You know I sure hope so sunstar since she PUT THEM RIGHT BACK IN THE DRESSER DRAWER. Yuck.. That's as bad as them bringing the car into the garage and opening the windows to "air it out".
That smell HAD to permeate throughout the inside the house.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:44 PM
I think he's as bad as the A's that one.
A FL State Prosecutor said on HLN today that she knows Brad personally and he's a great guy and good attorney, but she thinks the Anthonys are "driving the media train", not Brad.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 09:45 PM
I just reread it too velvetbrown. Who believes this line?
KING: What's the bear for?
C. ANTHONY: What the bear is for -- our first project is kind of like a thank you back to law enforcement agencies. Especially we're going to start with Orange County.
How many times have they dissed the Orange County Police? What are they thanking them for?
They need to start with "I'm sorry."
O Please they hate them for arresting their precious daughter cause she lied about where she worked..:wink:
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:46 PM
She was sent to band camp...:biggrin:
:laugh: My ear drums were hurting!
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I laughed out loud and dh looked at me so funny that I lol'd again.
lol witchy. Keep him guessing what you're laughing about.
bchand
05-14-2009, 09:50 PM
A FL State Prosecutor said on HLN today that she knows Brad personally and he's a great guy and good attorney, but she thinks the Anthonys are "driving the media train", not Brad.
Then it makes one wonder - what good is he?
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 09:50 PM
A FL State Prosecutor said on HLN today that she knows Brad personally and he's a great guy and good attorney, but she thinks the Anthonys are "driving the media train", not Brad.
well he better get away while he can then or they will add him to their web...I guess I missed her saying that..did not catch that one
crimeq
05-14-2009, 09:53 PM
I looked at those on the site you posted. IMO they are not the ones, but I understand that you pointed how cheap they can be made.
Thanks. How much of a donation do you have to give?
I have not been to their page nor will I.
TIA
Ah, Witchy, maybe you should visit. On the home page, half-way down, is a button to sign the guestbook. You can make any comment you want--no edits to require name or email address, so you can make the comments anonymously. They don't post the comments on the site, but someone is reading those comments, be sure of it.
If you change your mind, here's the link to the "foundation" website:
http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cayleemarieanthonyfoundation/
I just LOVE the dennismilstead.FATCOW domain name. LOVE it :biggrin: as it tells exactly what Dennis Milstead thinks about his foundation(s).
seeing_eye
05-14-2009, 09:54 PM
Conway doesn't seem too familiar with the evidence. Either he's relying on Cindy for facts (like she'd know one if she saw it.) or he's making it up as he goes along.
I think Conway must be getting his info from Cindy and Cindy has been getting her info from the same source where the "soda pops" got their info. I recall how they were always talking about how there could not be any tape on the skull since there was no flesh for it to adhere to. Plus they said there could be no hair attached to the skull for the same reason. They said the hair had fallen to the ground in a "circle" around the skull. It sounds like all these people have been reading on the same page -- but they obviously have not been reading the released documents describing the skull and duct tape.
aproudmom
05-14-2009, 09:54 PM
:laugh: My ear drums were hurting!
man if they had all been in the same room her and the other lawyer would have had it out right there..it was crazy..JVM was gonna go get a gavel
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:54 PM
OK, I better look at the transcript.
Even so, to me, it sounds like Cindy is speaking to and advising potential jurors.:sneaky:
Here's the quote from the transcript, Blu - and I agree with you, she is poisoning the potential jury pool......telling them to "do the right thing." :angry:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html
KING: You have a suspect in your mind. You seemed to indicate that, right? But you don't have proof about that suspect.
C. ANTHONY: Right.
KING: Are you at all -- any air of optimism about this?
C. ANTHONY: Yes, I think if people do the right thing and they take the oath as a juror, and do the right thing and listen to the evidence, you know --
KING: So you have hope?
C. ANTHONY: Absolutely.
MiamiNice1
05-14-2009, 09:56 PM
man if they had all been in the same room her and the other lawyer would have had it out right there..it was crazy..JVM was gonna go get a gavel
lol! Not even JVM could stop the WendyMurphy Rant! I believe Lenamon said he saw her in the hallway! :scared:
StickyBeak
05-14-2009, 10:00 PM
Come on Over to New Evening Thread, we are over 1000
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=353497
Bring your Posts : :smile:
True2Blues
05-14-2009, 10:02 PM
A FL State Prosecutor said on HLN today that she knows Brad personally and he's a great guy and good attorney, but she thinks the Anthonys are "driving the media train", not Brad.
I think an attorney with integrity would opt out if his clients were not following his advice. Conway didn't, and some of the things he's said lead me to believe he's with his own kind.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 10:05 PM
Are we sure LE has the actual diary in evidence? IIRC, they only took a picture of it when they were searching the Ant's house. And it is the picture they have in evidence.
I would think they'd want to take it into evidence--ink analysis, torn-out pages, etc. I don't understand how Brad can have "custody" of that diary.
Kokopelli
05-14-2009, 10:06 PM
I wondered about him early on, but since then I've come to the conclusion that he's just like Cindy and going along because he wants too. I think a lot of the looks are because they really don't care for each other, but are staying together for the sake of the money.
ITA...unlike George saving himself from extinction by thinking of his wife and family, Cindy can not say the same about him. I don't think I can recall one time when she said something caring about him?? I may be wrong, but when she said her Faith saved her I bet he had a tight little twinge in his gluteus maximus.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 10:08 PM
safe to come out and play.....
Are the Ants back in town, or did they stay in California to enjoy a long and pleasurable weekend?
kanzz
05-14-2009, 10:11 PM
I didn't watch the show last night, nor have I watched the youtube videos.. (I don't wanna! LOL) but if Conway said there was no hair on the tape, he was lying just like the rest of them. The tape was stuck to hair on both sides of the skull. They had to cut the hair to free the tape from what I remember in the reports.
Thanks. Just as I thought. I need to dig around and find this info in the docs somehow. Have a friend who is believing what the Ant's and their atty said last nite.
crimeq
05-14-2009, 10:12 PM
I just reread it too velvetbrown. Who believes this line?
KING: What's the bear for?
C. ANTHONY: What the bear is for -- our first project is kind of like a thank you back to law enforcement agencies. Especially we're going to start with Orange County.
How many times have they dissed the Orange County Police? What are they thanking them for?
They need to start with "I'm sorry."
I hope whoever gets these bears rips off the T-shirt that advertises their "foundation". Ants should have thought of that, and had something printed directly on the bears.
'Course then they'd throw away the whole bear. Who wants to give a frightened little kid an advertising promo item?
sunstar
05-14-2009, 10:14 PM
You know I sure hope so sunstar since she PUT THEM RIGHT BACK IN THE DRESSER DRAWER. Yuck.. That's as bad as them bringing the car into the garage and opening the windows to "air it out".
That smell HAD to permeate throughout the inside the house.
Exactly! I've never figured out why they'd park the car inside the garage to "air it out" unless it was being "detailed". :sneaky: MOO
sunstar
05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Here it is from the transcript:
KING: Are you at all -- any air of optimism about this?
C. ANTHONY: Yes, I think if people do the right thing and they take the oath as a juror, and do the right thing and listen to the evidence, you know --
KING: So you have hope? C. ANTHONY: Absolutely.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html
(bolding mine)
Oh yes, Cindy ~ they will do the right thing, listen to the evidence and CONVICT Casey!! :biggrin: (she should be more careful what she says, imo!)
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
I found a few you could personalize for $3, $4, $5 and $6.
Here, I made one for them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/AnthonyBear.jpg
I'll take a dozen! :lol:
gaelicpeas
05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
I think Conway must be getting his info from Cindy and Cindy has been getting her info from the same source where the "soda pops" got their info. I recall how they were always talking about how there could not be any tape on the skull since there was no flesh for it to adhere to. Plus they said there could be no hair attached to the skull for the same reason. They said the hair had fallen to the ground in a "circle" around the skull. It sounds like all these people have been reading on the same page -- but they obviously have not been reading the released documents describing the skull and duct tape.Good sleuthing, seeing_eye, and I agree. There has been a concerted effort put forth that has been very consistent among the soda pops, the defense, the As and their lawyer with regards to forensic evidence. JMO
kanzz
05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Page 5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3374B%20TO%203463B%20REDO.pdf
The skull appeared to be that of a small child. The duct tape over the mouth area of the skull appears to have caught up the hair along the side of the skull. This is what appears to have kept the tape in place. The hair had to be cut in order for the tape to be properly removed in the way it was found. On the tape within a black oval was written the word "Henkel". Also written on the tape was "Consumer Adhesives Inc. max temp 200 f Avon Ohio 44011." The tape was affixed to the skull in such a manner that the mandible was still adjacent to the skull.
TY, TY, TY... that really helps so much!
StickyBeak
05-14-2009, 10:18 PM
Please come join us on New Evening Thread
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13105231&posted=1#post13105231
Hate when this happens, tis the rules. :smile:
crimeq
05-14-2009, 10:22 PM
Then it makes one wonder - what good is he?
I think he's wanting publicity out of the case, just like Bozo Baez. Brad has now been on LKL and on the Early Show, just missed being on Oprah, who knows what's next? The Ants will probalby never pay him, but maybe he sees something in his career because of it??? :confused:
Even bad publicity is publicity, and publicity is a good thing.
Lavinia
05-14-2009, 10:22 PM
Although I think the above is a possibility... I sort of think that maybe Casey was responsible for all of this money being missing (and I think it was way up in the thousands, maybe 30K), and one parent was playing her against the other. Which leads me to think that one parent was "more" on Casey's side than the other one. I am still up in the air as to which one, though, although I am leaning one way. The key evidence which points to this is that recovered email from Cindy to Casey early July 15 or late July 14 where she states "I don't know who/what to believe" in reference to apparently somebody being in the house or something. She says that George states he wasn't there... JMO and speculation.
ITA, gaeilc. I have no doubt they formed unions and alliances with each other against another party to achieve whatever they wanted to manipulate at the time. It seems pretty clear, IMO, that there was little to no benevolence in their relationships, just dog eat dog.
MrsHudson
05-14-2009, 10:30 PM
yup, yup, yup.....
bloggers just don't understand. they don't understand unconditional love :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
they just make me :ohmy:
Unconditional love is a crock. Who coined that phrase anyway? You love your kids because they are YOUR KIDS even if they are rotten people. Too bad, so sad, I don't care and I don't think it's heroic.
101Spots
05-14-2009, 10:30 PM
ITA, gaeilc. I have no doubt they formed unions and alliances with each other against another party to achieve whatever they wanted to manipulate at the time. It seems pretty clear, IMO, that there was little to no benevolence in their relationships, just dog eat dog.
Survivor: Orlando!
Next tribal council meets at 3:30 PM.......
bchand
05-14-2009, 10:31 PM
I think he's wanting publicity out of the case, just like Bozo Baez. Brad has now been on LKL and on the Early Show, just missed being on Oprah, who knows what's next? The Ants will probalby never pay him, but maybe he sees something in his career because of it??? :confused:
Even bad publicity is publicity, and publicity is a good thing.
If he ever wanted to run for judge again, I think he's made a big mistake associating with them. Bad judgement :)
frances1
05-14-2009, 10:44 PM
Unconditional love is a crock. Who coined that phrase anyway? You love your kids because they are YOUR KIDS even if they are rotten people. Too bad, so sad, I don't care and I don't think it's heroic.
Mrs. Hudson, that is so true.
Oregongal
05-14-2009, 11:43 PM
Hi ya Ana :seeya:
Great article ... I left a short comment ...
For anyone who would like to read it:
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/
Been away for awhile and just jumped back on the the last page I left....I also left you a comment Ana. Wonderful, excellently written and ITA.
Mine I think is right below denjet's.
:wink:
Now, I will go see how many pages behind I am.
Oregongal
05-14-2009, 11:45 PM
Wow, many, many pages behind.
Didn't realize I was gone that long.
:blushing:
Tornado
05-14-2009, 11:50 PM
I sure hope he doesn't lose it on the stand......
But, don't be surprised if they don't figure out a way for him not to testify.....I'm sure the defense is just as worried as Cindy is about him taking that stand....
Hey Barb- I think that it is almost inevitable that both of them will lose it on the stand. The prosecution is watching them very closely and are so skilled at pushing buttons. They will have no choice but to answer questions that they don't want to and neither one of them have the ability to compose themselves under oathe or under pressure. IMO
kanzz
05-14-2009, 11:58 PM
Wow, many, many pages behind.
Didn't realize I was gone that long.
:blushing:
It's confusing when the new thread is 5 down on the list and the old thread is sticky at the top... ppl are posting on both, but not too much on either one. I was going to head out, but too lazy to get up and get going.
MrsHudson
05-15-2009, 12:02 AM
I really think he needs her. Needs. Like he likes being told what a jerk he is, and she's more than willing to do that for him, for all of their lives.
They have a strange relationship for sure, a sick relationship IMO, but they need each other. George more than Cindy, but she needs someone to beat up in a sense, and he needs to be taken care of, even if he gets "beat up" in the process.
Sado-masochistic, I think that's what it is.
Cindy is to George as Jim Jones was to his tragically captive followers.
Katprint
05-15-2009, 01:27 AM
http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disorders/psychotic_disorder/hic_shared_psychotic_disorder.aspx
I truly believe that while you are close, Cindy and Casey, as well as possibly Cindy and George share the Folly of Two disorder.
Finally, something tangible I can say fits this families "dysfunction".
Documented Dysfunction.
While I am willing to believe that Cindy is truly suffering from psychotic denial, I think that George knows better and is merely humoring Cindy. George says whatever Cindy wants him to say, except when he is under oath or making an official statement in which case he shades the truth as much as possible without risking imprisonment for perjury/false official statement (albeit he may have crossed the line in his recent civil deposition testimony but he can blame that on his medications after his suicide attempt.)
People who have been married for a long time often develop this kind of accommodating relationship. I see it as an exaggerated version of, for example, my husband's acquiescence concerning how I decorate our house and my acquiescence concerning his selection of which vehicles we purchase. We choose our battles, so to speak.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
crimeq
05-15-2009, 01:33 AM
:cursing:
You Devil you.
I am not gonna do it. Stop trying to temp me.
Lots of us said we weren't. gonna. do. it.
Then we did! :biggrin:
enigma
05-15-2009, 01:42 AM
Especailly since she didn't act like that when the "remains" were found at Blanchard Park.
IMO
K
Yes - that was exactly my point. I supose it will be raised in the trial...
JMHO
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