Thursday, May 14, 2009

[Barbara fl.]

So the Ants haven't had a job since last summer, is that true? If so, how do they support themselves?? :confused:



From the Cayleemariefoundation.net.....They found away so that they don't have to work anymore.....

[GumShoeJoe]

Great post!

Bolding mine....

I think in the beginning, a lot of people felt sorry for The Anthony's and felt sympathy for them. But, they lost that pretty quickly w/their words and actions. I thought it was laughable when on LKL last night Cindy said something to the effect that she couldn't understand why everyone hated her and George so much because they haven't done anything wrong. Oh, really Cindy? What about all the lies, mis-truths, half-truths, cover ups, accusations about LE, the FBI, the prosecution, and Casey's innocent friends? Cindy thinks she is so holy and pious and she is anything but. Maybe people would have sympathy for them if they stood up for Caylee and sought justice for the person who murdered her. They are both totally clueless.:sneaky:
I wish Larry would have asked them why people have never expressed this ubiquitous, voluminous hostility towards Mark Klass, Sharon Rocha, Tim Miller, or many other parents/grandparents of a murdered child.

While I have seen some smaller amounts of anger or hositilty expressed towards crime victim families in the past, but I have not seen anything close to this. And Larry King, who has has talked to all of them, said he has never seen anything like it.

[KittyMom]

FGS! Picture #20 - I thought the tee only had Caylee's name on it. It includes their website address! Isn't that like giving a gift and leaving the price tag on the item so everyone knows what you paid for it? jmo

Yep, I think so. It just floors me how these two think.

[Kokopelli]

Ill bet Larry felt the need to disinfect the chairs after they left.

Oh my gosh Ex, This really made me laugh! I was feeling so depressed about having wonderful working children and being a sorry arse blogger than I read your comment: :laugh: I can just picture Larry with big ol sweaty armpits in his blue shirt, drops of water running off his forehead, a can of Lysol disinfectant spray under one arm and bucket of water next to his mic busily scrubbing away! Of course, the whole time saying "why did have these two nuts on this show???":confused:

[Explorer]

I really thinkthat they dont even care if casey stays in jail anymore. I think they only care about the money they are making off of Caylee.

[jakee]

Bolding mine....

Yes, they can say it was only 1 night of clubbing, but I would bet my bottom dollar that all of Casey's friends can testify to the fact that there was more than that one night. Just because there aren't pictures from the other nights of clubbing doesn't mean it didn't happen. Also, how do The Anthony's explain Casey getting her "beautiful life" tattoo and her going on her shopping spree w/money that she stole from Amy? Casey's odd behavior was more than just that one night of clubbing and it will most definitely help convict her when this goes to trial. I am sure that Cindy was so proud of herself how she explained that one picture and I bet she thought she thought she really helped Casey's cause. If she only knew how ridiculous and unbelievable she sounds.:thumbdown:

I agree! Also, didn't Casey go to Blockbuster and rent movies with her boyfriend Tony? I guess she was grieving and looking for clues there too?

[Dells]

I have even less sympathy than I did before if thats at all possible.

Yes, it's possible because I feel the same way. I am sure there are many others out there that feel this way as well. It should just prove to The Anthony's that the more interviews they go on and the more they open their mouths that all they end up doing is putting their foot in it. They are just hurting Casey and the case against her. Heaven help them, they are just doing more and more damage to Casey.

[iluvmua]

I agree! Also, didn't Casey go to Blockbuster and rent movies with her boyfriend Tony? I guess she was grieving and looking for clues there too?

Yep, Casey was spotted on video renting movies @ blcokbuster w/ Tony

[Tia]

I agree! Also, didn't Casey go to Blockbuster and rent movies with her boyfriend Tony? I guess she was grieving and looking for clues there too?


According to Cindy, she was grieving the best she could. I guess going to Blockbuster helped the process???:rolleyes:

[TunaMelt]

According to Cindy IIRC she said they did take photographs of those pages and the D/A has it, too. She acted like it was not even an issue.
They are a bunch of liars!

When she acts like something is no big deal, and no reason to even discuss it -- then you can be sure it is a big deal and it's something she doesn't want to talk about.

Pages were razor cut out of that diary, right next to the spine. It wasn't a good job, it was something Cindy would do, thinking it would be overlooked, since nobody would pay attention to it because of the 2003 date she wrote on the inside.

They really should stay out the the spotlight. Liars don't do well on shows like last night's debacle.

Shove that needle closer to Casey's arm, Cindy...

[msgatorslayer]

does the lying with these people ever cease? They have no credibility at all!

Cindy is hoping to reach out to people other than the evil bloggers who know her game, inside and out. While I don't believe thousands of people mail her a day with support, I'm willing to bet that after one her theatrical shows like lastnight, she'll get a couple of letters from people who feel sorry for her. The writers of these such notes are people that don't know much about the case.

[Barbara fl.]

I've wondered about that.....is that OK for him to do?


Hi Barb....did you get a new pup?


No, he can get in a world of trouble for doing that....but I'm sure heis doing it without them seeing......I hope LE will check into it.....


And, no we haven't found our dog....doubt that we ever will....thank you so much for asking.....

[iluvmua]

It's pretty much sme-old same-old isn't it?

Yep it is

She could be covering so many other stories but she doesn't because she's so obsessed about this one. :crying:

[Postergeist]

I agree! Also, didn't Casey go to Blockbuster and rent movies with her boyfriend Tony? I guess she was grieving and looking for clues there too?

dontcha know tho- Cindy would say she "only" did that "once" while Caylee was "missing"!

Casey always gets free passes for all of her "one time" things-

breaking into the shed to 'borrow' the gas cans
using her granny's routing number to 'pay' for a birthday fiesta party for Caylee

and so forth...

:rolleyes:

[need2no]

Mornin' all- speaking of the lies Explorer-

didn't Cindy say on one of her CBS Early News interviews that it

was Casey that talked her out of going thru with her suicidal thoughts???

And now- on LKL she says it was her faith and her friends?

Wow- she just bumped her perfect daughter off of the pedestal with that comment.

I do believe she has forgotten some of her 'mistruths' she has told before.


I came across something the other day while cleaning that seemed to fit this family-

their quest for perfection is destroying reality

well, more likely their quest for coverup- imo

I cringe everytime I hear Cindy say she has unconditional love for her daughter-

it seems that Caylee never, ever got that- and if any one deserves that- it's a helpless 2 year old- not a 23 year old!

:sad:

Yes, poor Cindy has a difficult time keeping up with all her mistruths. Note she didn't mention Lee or George either when saying her faith and friends kept her from going through with a suicide. So where are all these friends? I don't recall hearing any of her friends speaking out in all these months....they must be the shy type.

Also I guess George is not a man of faith based on what Cindy said, since he allegedly attempted suicide.

[sammy62]

Hubby and I are running away today. But just wanted to give a pat on the back....pat pat pat to everyone who wrote into LKL. Once again we did awesome. We are batting 100.

byeee...see you tomorrow.

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you. George is like a volcano ready to explode. I seriously think he is having trouble keeping this charade up. It wouldn't surprise me if he cracks someday.

Oh, he'll crack alright....on that witness stand....It wouldn't surprise me if they come up with a reason for him not to take the stand....Cindy and Baez know he will crack under pressure.....

[KittyMom]

According to Cindy, she was grieving the best she could. I guess going to Blockbuster helped the process???:rolleyes:

Especially with her choices in movies. :scared: Ugly Coping, again.

[Barbara fl.]

Barney Fyfe on the old Andy Griffith's show was a deputy.
:w00t:
You can draw any conclusion you wish.
:wink:



I like that explanation....:laugh:

[TunaMelt]

I really thinkthat they dont even care if casey stays in jail anymore. I think they only care about the money they are making off of Caylee.

I believe they think their lives will be oh so much more pleasant and easier if they would just lock Casey away forever. Then they could get on with things unencumbered.

Casey was a problem kind of girl. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if the State of Florida took her off their hands.

Such is the real meaning of "unconditional love" in the Anthony family.

[Postergeist]

Cindy is hoping to reach out to people other than the evil bloggers who know her game, inside and out. While I don't believe thousands of people mail her a day with support, I'm willing to bet that after one her theatrical shows like lastnight, she'll get a couple of letters from people who feel sorry for her. The writers of these such notes are people that don't know much about the case.

or...

she could be emailing to herself, kinda like her own daughter did with all the faux work emails.

Hey, if the parents accept the faux imaginary nanny with a white dog- why can't Cindy have her imaginary email friends supporting her as well?!

[need2no]

On LK website:

Quick Vote
Do you think Casey Anthony will be convicted of murder?
Yes 95% 4383
No 5% 214
Total Votes: 4597


Wonder how many times Cindy, George, Baez and staff voted....214? :wink:

[TunaMelt]

Yes, poor Cindy has a difficult time keeping up with all her mistruths. Note she didn't mention Lee or George either when saying her faith and friends kept her from going through with a suicide. So where are all these friends? I don't recall hearing any of her friends speaking out in all these months....they must be the shy type.

Also I guess George is not a man of faith based on what Cindy said, since he allegedly attempted suicide.

She must have meant Dennis "The Felon" Milstead and his lovely wife, Sherri.
:w00t:

[Explorer]

I believe they think their lives will be oh so much more pleasant and easier if they would just lock Casey away forever. Then they could get on with things unencumbered.

Casey was a problem kind of girl. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if the State of Florida took her off their hands.

Such is the real meaning of "unconditional love" in the Anthony family.

Seriously I think that IS the case here. They are getting a taste of how much easier it is without her and her drama. I think before long we will be hearing how well maybe she could possibly be guilty.

[need2no]

She must have meant Dennis "The Felon" Milstead and his lovely wife, Sherri.
:w00t:

Oh darn, forgot about them....now if only I could continue to forget about them. :biggrin:

[Explorer]

family members are disposable to the anthonys we already know that.

[msgatorslayer]

or...

she could be emailing to herself, kinda like her own daughter did with all the faux work emails.

Hey, if the parents accept the faux imaginary nanny with a white dog- why can't Cindy have her imaginary email friends supporting her as well?!

:lol: That is funny. I picture Cindy feverishly typing off letters to herself from the library, lmao.

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

Yes, they can say it was only 1 night of clubbing, but I would bet my bottom dollar that all of Casey's friends can testify to the fact that there was more than that one night. Just because there aren't pictures from the other nights of clubbing doesn't mean it didn't happen. Also, how do The Anthony's explain Casey getting her "beautiful life" tattoo and her going on her shopping spree w/money that she stole from Amy? Casey's odd behavior was more than just that one night of clubbing and it will most definitely help convict her when this goes to trial. I am sure that Cindy was so proud of herself how she explained that one picture and I bet she thought she thought she really helped Casey's cause. If she only knew how ridiculous and unbelievable she sounds.:thumbdown:

But when you look at all the pictures, one can plainly see that her demeanor is exactly the same....before and after.....so how will they explain that away....? As one poster said "one picture is too many when your child is missing"....all the pictures will show how she loved the night life and didn't have time for her child....

Now combine that with not reporting your child missing, lying to LE in order to hamper any search for her missing child...and the body being found down the block from where she lives...also include the odor of death in her car, abandoning her car, none of her closest friends seeing Caylee after the 15th of June....and a nanny that doesn't exist...

Guilty verdict for sure.....

[msgatorslayer]

family members are disposable to the anthonys we already know that.

I wonder if Cindy spoke to her Mom on Mothers Day. I'd love to know if they still have a relationship and how its going.

[Explorer]

If the a's would do this to a 21/2 year old just think of what they would do to each other.

[need2no]

KING: You were destroyed once so bad that you almost hurt yourself, right?

G. ANTHONY: Yes, I did because there's just so much that a person can take. You know, you're trying to protect your family. I never really cared about myself. All I ever cared about was how my wife was going to be taken care of, my son, my daughter and do whatever I could, you know, to protect them. I think anyone would do the same thing.



How does committing suicide protect your family, or insure they are taken care of? :shrug:

[Barbara fl.]

I wonder if Cindy spoke to her Mom on Mothers Day. I'd love to know if they still have a relationship and how its going.

I think that is one call that Cindy did NOT receive......I didn't believe Cindy when she said that they write back and forth....I believe that Cindy may write her....but I honestly doubt that Casey writes back...she wont even look her parents way when she walks into court....

Casey knows that Cindy and George know that she murdered Caylee...and she knows that if their eyes meet her guilt will show.....In Casey's mind, she knows that, if she fools the whole world, she can't fool her parents.....

[Postergeist]

Yes, poor Cindy has a difficult time keeping up with all her mistruths. Note she didn't mention Lee or George either when saying her faith and friends kept her from going through with a suicide. So where are all these friends? I don't recall hearing any of her friends speaking out in all these months....they must be the shy type.

Also I guess George is not a man of faith based on what Cindy said, since he allegedly attempted suicide.

Mornin' N2N- yes- you're right! Cindy does mention her faith often- I don't recall George talking about his faith as much, if at all.

And Cindy wasn't truthful when saying she would never cut off flesh and blood- she already did that with her brother Rick. And who knows if she is still visiting and tending to her mom and dad.

But a good thing- I didn't hear KF mentioned or the boat and no gum and water bottles, no shamrock, no green sweater!

:laugh:

(I think G's brows were trimmed up)

{I lost my 'net connection for several min. grrr- guess I'll go back to reading & hoping it stays on!)

[Dells]

Interesting recap of last night's LKL:

http://citizenkim.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/the-george-and-cindy-show-thanks-larry/



That was a great read! Thanks so much for sharing the link w/us! :seeya:

[bchand]

Hubby and I are running away today. But just wanted to give a pat on the back....pat pat pat to everyone who wrote into LKL. Once again we did awesome. We are batting 100.

byeee...see you tomorrow.

Have a great day sammy !

I love the fact that Larry had the comments all printed out and ready for Cindy & George.

[StickyBeak]

cindy sure was, she shot conway daggers during that entire exchange. Just for the heck of it, I wish the prosecutors would ask for it. I think cindy wrote the fake date on the inside cover.

I need to go back to the video, but during the "diary" questions, seemed to me Cindy, along with shooting daggers, may have had her hand on Brads leg to restrain him. Ive seen her do this to GA from the very beginning. Both the A's hand actions are interesting, the finger thumping began fairly early IMO. Cindy at one point had her hands flat out on the desk almost ready for Lift Off. LOL I though LK did a great job minus any prosecurial experience. All MOO

[Barbara fl.]

KING: You were destroyed once so bad that you almost hurt yourself, right?

G. ANTHONY: Yes, I did because there's just so much that a person can take. You know, you're trying to protect your family. I never really cared about myself. All I ever cared about was how my wife was going to be taken care of, my son, my daughter and do whatever I could, you know, to protect them. I think anyone would do the same thing.



How does committing suicide protect your family, or insure they are taken care of? :shrug:


And what about protecting Caylee from your daughter?

[enigma]

Photographer John Azzilonna & Jamie Realander disagree with Cindy: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cdphotos.pdf

The photos were taken at Fusian Ultra Lounge Night Club on the 6th of June, the 13th of June and the 20th of June. Some of which were taken after midnight. Casey was wearing a black dress in the photos on the 6th and 13th and wearing a blue dress on the 20th. I had taken approximately 10 photos and the remaining were taken by Teddy Pieper.

ETA ~ Forgot Jamie Realander - page 4 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/11%20Jamie%20Realander%20Transcript.pdf - Casey was very content and happy when Jamie saw her at Fusians on June 27 and July 11.

Great post! Thanks! :)

JMHO

[need2no]

I wonder if Cindy spoke to her Mom on Mothers Day. I'd love to know if they still have a relationship and how its going.


I'd love to know too. Frankly I don't see how they could get along at this point unless Cindy comes clean with Shirley and tells her she is only publicly supporting casey, which I doubt she would do. But even if she said that I think Shirley would still have a problem with Cindy doing all the public appearances and would point out her inconsistencies, ask lots of pointed guestions, and wouldn't hesitiate in the least to tell Cindy exactly how she feels about all this....and Cindy couldn't handle it.

[margaritaville]

Hate I missed it last night now...LK must have done a great job on them:thumbup:


You can still watch it.....


part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u239O6gFEA8&feature=channel_page

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlDecF9DYnY&feature=channel_page

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr44VRSuyUw&feature=channel_page

part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_p2O0eyKE&feature=channel_page

part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyyg4Q5bJvE&feature=channel_page

part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqzajTgh7PQ&feature=channel_page

[Dells]

This was also one of my favorite exchanges. Bolding is mine.

KING: We have a blog question for George from Renee in Gas City, Indiana. "George, as a former detective, regardless of Casey being your daughter or not, what's your feelings about the strong evidence that's been mounted against her?"

G. ANTHONY: Well, in the first place, whenever I worked as a detective, which was a long, long time ago, I never presumed anything until I had all of the facts in front of me. I never conferred with anyone higher than the other gentleman I was working with, like a regular detective. I kept everything close knit. We didn't really say anything. I never discussed it with anyone.

KING: This kind of case, wouldn't it lead you down that suspicious trail? Wouldn't you understand where the detectives were going with this?

G. ANTHONY: I would want to have everything in front of me before I made any kind of conclusion at all. I really don't think that happened. I don't think that happened.

KING: Do you mean you would have made no arrests?

G. ANTHONY: I don't think I would have made an arrest, no. I really don't.

C. ANTHONY: They made an arrest based on the fact that she lied about where she worked. That had nothing to do with Caylee.

Oh, that exchange was priceless! Cindy, I have news for you, they made an arrest on much more than the fact that Casey lied about where she worked.:rolleyes: And really, if she was trying to help find her daughter at that point, why even lie at all? Cindy always tries to downplay anything that is negative. Like when Casey stole money from her grandma is was "okay" because it was only $50, or it was okay that Casey went out partying after Caylee went missing because there are only pictures of her doing it "one night", or it was okay that she lied to LE because she only lied about "where she worked". Of course we know that Cindy herself is lying when she is saying this because we all know that Casey stole much more money, and that she was out partying much more than one night, and she didn't only lie to LE about where she worked, she basically lied to them w/every word and statement that she ever made to them. But Cindy tries to downplay it and tries to make is appear insignificant. She's delusional.:thumbdown:

[Kokopelli]

yup, yup, yup.....

bloggers just don't understand. they don't understand unconditional love :rolleyes:

you know, the funny thing is, i could see, if the A's believed a thing or two about this case and/or casey and spoke out and provided alternatives for things and why they believe that. but, they go on national tv and have an idiotic EXCUSE for every little thing.....even all of casey's lies!!! unbelievable!

don't they realize that there are going to be casey's friends and others that saw her out partying that will testify at trial? it'll start with all the text messages, etc. :rolleyes:


they just make me :ohmy:

I can imagine her stab at bloggers has to do with the hatred of her brother Rick, the world-famous blogger.

[GumShoeJoe]

Yes, poor Cindy has a difficult time keeping up with all her mistruths. Note she didn't mention Lee or George either when saying her faith and friends kept her from going through with a suicide. So where are all these friends? I don't recall hearing any of her friends speaking out in all these months....they must be the shy type.

Also I guess George is not a man of faith based on what Cindy said, since he allegedly attempted suicide.

How about when George said other victim families were calling them because they (the Anthonys) were ROLE MODELS????

I almost fell off my chair.

[GumShoeJoe]

I'd love to know too. Frankly I don't see how they could get along at this point unless Cindy comes clean with Shirley and tells her she is only publicly supporting casey, which I doubt she would do. But even if she said that I think Shirley would still have a problem with Cindy doing all the public appearances and would point out her inconsistencies, ask lots of pointed guestions, and wouldn't hesitiate in the least to tell Cindy exactly how she feels about all this....and Cindy couldn't handle it.

Someone really needs to tell Cindy what unconditional love means. Like her mother.

Cindy seems to confuse it with "anything goes and we'll help". Her mother still loves her unconditionally, I am sure, but doesn't stand for the BS.

[StickyBeak]

what is pic 17?

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/19459151/detail.html

Looks to me like a marina, I can make out boats and trailers not much else. Maybe GA was trying to back up the SS Caylee on a trailer and took out a fence, just saying.

[margaritaville]

does the lying with these people ever cease? They have no credibility at all!

I think that is exactly what they want....(no credibility)

I think it about killed George that he testified AGAINST Casey in the GJ hearing and now if they make themselves as "un-credible" as possible maybe they won't be called to go against her again. I mean, who would believe them, right! No need to call them as witnesses.

MOO

[breezie]

This was posted last night right before the LKL show so itmay have been missed.

Caylee Anthony - Baez Vs Lenamon - Is This A Joke?

http://www.bloggernews.net/120864

From the article regarding the foundation website:

It says donations can be made by paypal or you can send a check to them personally at their home address made out to the foundation which they personally CAN cash because they supposedly own the foundation. But wait, oops the paypal button is broken and unavailable at this time so to donate you must send it directly to those hot little hands of Cindy Anthony.

I think I will mail my receipt from TES to Cindy's hot little hands.

[breezie]

FGS! Picture #20 - I thought the tee only had Caylee's name on it. It includes their website address! Isn't that like giving a gift and leaving the price tag on the item so everyone knows what you paid for it? jmo

She's gonna start with Orange County police. I bet they are thrilled that after calling them all sorts of names, she wants to drop off her advertisement bears to them. :mad:

[*MoonRider*]

How about when George said other victim families were calling them because they (the Anthonys) were ROLE MODELS????

I almost fell off my chair.

They really are delusional. Role models on how not to work perhaps?

[margaritaville]

Yep, Casey was spotted on video renting movies @ blcokbuster w/ Tony


But I am sure she was looking behind the shelves and in the corner for Caylee also...

Like she did at Fusion, looking under the tables ect. to see if Caylee was there...........:sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

Oh, that exchange was priceless! Cindy, I have news for you, they made an arrest on much more than the fact that Casey lied about where she worked.:rolleyes: And really, if she was trying to help find her daughter at that point, why even lie at all? Cindy always tries to downplay anything that is negative. Like when Casey stole money from her grandma is was "okay" because it was only $50, or it was okay that Casey went out partying after Caylee went missing because there are only pictures of her doing it "one night", or it was okay that she lied to LE because she only lied about "where she worked". Of course we know that Cindy herself is lying when she is saying this because we all know that Casey stole much more money, and that she was out partying much more than one night, and she didn't only lie to LE about where she worked, she basically lied to them w/every word and statement that she ever made to them. But Cindy tries to downplay it and tries to make is appear insignificant. She's delusional.:thumbdown:


I think they might very well try and blame Kronk....why did Cindy say the body must have been moved....If Kronk saw it in August and then it was found in December....who would move a body and bring it right back to the same spot?

I believe that this defense is going to create a big doubt about Kronk and try and indicate that he might very well have played a part in this...They will try anything and everything to get to "ONE" juror....

And if this should by any mere chance take place....How do the Anthony's think Casey will get thru a second trial without the underhandedness of all these high profile fruadulent individuals...Casey will be forced to go with legal aid....the second trial will last about 3 days and Casey will be sent to the big house.....

Either way, the Anthony's will never have their daughter back home....

[GumShoeJoe]

I can imagine her stab at bloggers has to do with the hatred of her brother Rick, the world-famous blogger.

And go Cindy, way to bash Larry's viewers who are encouraged by Larry to post on Larry's blog.

I think Larry was annoyed(?), bothered(?), incredulous(?) with the Anthony's. There was something there, to me.

Maybe he feels like they were trying to exploit his reputation and show to further a bad agenda. I have rarely seen him that pointed in recent years. But he has too much experience and reputation to succumb to foolishness from the Anthonys of all people. This man has sat with Presidents and world religious leaders, for goodness sake.

[margaritaville]

When she acts like something is no big deal, and no reason to even discuss it -- then you can be sure it is a big deal and it's something she doesn't want to talk about.

Pages were razor cut out of that diary, right next to the spine. It wasn't a good job, it was something Cindy would do, thinking it would be overlooked, since nobody would pay attention to it because of the 2003 date she wrote on the inside.

They really should stay out the the spotlight. Liars don't do well on shows like last night's debacle.

Shove that needle closer to Casey's arm, Cindy...

You think Cindy wrote that?
I never thought about that!!

Get the handwriting forensic people on that......I wouldn't put that past Cindy for a moment or a minute........

[Barbara fl.]

I think that is exactly what they want....(no credibility)

I think it about killed George that he testified AGAINST Casey in the GJ hearing and now if they make themselves as "un-credible" as possible maybe they won't be called to go against her again. I mean, who would believe them, right! No need to call them as witnesses.

MOO


Not so.....the prosecution will have a ball with them on the stand....showing just how they have retracted all that was said at the beginning.....

Everything is on tape....the jury will see it all...and they will come to realize that George and Anthony are just covering up for their daughter.....

[Dells]

Then you missed the part where Cindy was talking to all the potential juror's....asking them to do the right thing.....

I wanted LK to ask Cindy...If Casey was such a good and loving mother then why were you trying to get custody of Caylee?

This whole family are vultures...they are capitalizing on Caylee's murder....

Bolding mine....

Well, in Cindy's eyes the only way the jury will do the right thing is if they vote to acquit Casey. Way to taint to potential jury pool, Cindy.:sneaky:

[GumShoeJoe]

I think that is exactly what they want....(no credibility)

I think it about killed George that he testified AGAINST Casey in the GJ hearing and now if they make themselves as "un-credible" as possible maybe they won't be called to go against her again. I mean, who would believe them, right! No need to call them as witnesses.

MOO

I'm not confident he was forthcoming with the grand jury. That will be interesting, to me.

[*MoonRider*]

But I am sure she was looking behind the shelves and in the corner for Caylee also...

Like she did at Fusion, looking under the tables ect. to see if Caylee was there...........:sneaky:

Kind of like how G & C looked under the pavers for Caylee. :sad:

[Dells]

They got in the web address....www.cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Cindy made sure that got in.....that and putting in her plug to all the potential juror's was the reason they went on there.....


I would like to see these 1000's of letters they receive of support...I now have classified them as being even lower then the Petersons.....

Bolding mine....

I seriously doubt that they have thousands of letters of support. If they do, then they must have taken one or two letters of support and then photocopied them multiple times each.:sneaky:

They are pathetic.

[Dells]

ITA but remember KC is MOTHER OF THE YEAR now..so she would deny she was ever going to do that..everyone is just picking them apart remember..and they only sleep 4 hours a night..well they had good tans I do know that much..

Bolding mine....

Then they must be spending those 4 hours of sleep in tanning beds...:sneaky:

[enigma]

There was one issue I was hoping LK would bring up, and he did... Casey's reaction to when she found out a child's remains had been discovered near her home...

Conway answered that, I believe... by saying that it wold be a natural reaction of a mother whose child is missing (I am heavily paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it).

What I was hoping LK would ask is how her reaction that time compared with any reaction she had (or didn't) when remains were found in another area, also close, but not in the woods near her home, several months before Caylee was found.

Also keeping in mind that it took a while between finding the body and confirming that it was that of Caylee Anthony, while her mother "doubled over" at just hearing that skeletal remains were uncovered near her home. How did she know it was Caylee before it was confirmed?

JMHO

[Postergeist]

How about when George said other victim families were calling them because they (the Anthonys) were ROLE MODELS????

I almost fell off my chair.

I'm disturbed that this family is so bent on wanting the be role models to anyone outside their family- and didn't seem to have much thought as to what role they were portraying to their offspring.

But here is an incident report filed last year for Battery on Person- on George's so called role modeling behavior to the general public.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42223475.pdf

[GumShoeJoe]

Bolding mine....

Then they must be spending those 4 hours of sleep in tanning beds...:sneaky:

I had a really odd take on that exchange when it happened. Larry asked George "How do you sleep at night?" I thought -- wow, he is asking him how he lives with the lies.

I think my take was wrong, but at the time, it sort of got my attention.

[Dells]

:laugh:OMG kitty don't make me laugh..but yes she did..and losing keys or a cells phone is how she felt when she did not know where Caylee was

Bolding mine....

Just more proof that Caylee was simply a possession to all of them, and not a human being.

[need2no]

How about when George said other victim families were calling them because they (the Anthonys) were ROLE MODELS????

I almost fell off my chair.

Me too, me too.

GEORGE ANTHONY: We've seen since -- other missing children have came up missing since the tragedy with Caylee. We've been a positive role model for all these families. The families reached out to us and asked for help. And we've been doing that almost daily with them.


POSITIVE role models? :scared:

Why didn't George identify at least some of these families that have reached out to them, and use this opportunity to discuss their plights on national TV, and ask for the public's help? Perhaps he should have suggested the public drop them a letter to let them know they are thinking about them. :rolleyes:

[enigma]

Thanks for the link, Scampi.
Citizenkim is my new hero of the moment.:laugh:

Wow... I only just followed Scampi's link, and found the same question I asked in my post just then... freaky. But then again, it is an obvious issue.

JMHO

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

Well, in Cindy's eyes the only way the jury will do the right thing is if they vote to acquit Casey. Way to taint to potential jury pool, Cindy.:sneaky:


That's exactly what she was doing...The three of them had a mission last night...,sell their bears, try and get to potential jurors and promote their foundation....So Conway can afford a new wheelchair, one that is electronic so George don't have to push him, and the Anthony's don't have to look for new employment.....and if they really get lucky, they can reach ONE weak juror taht will hang the jury....

Either way Casey will never get out of jail......so it's all in vain....

[court~critic1®]

I said I wouldn't watch LK, I never do, and kept my promis to myself. lol


Thanks to all the great posters on here it seems I didn't miss much. The same old , same old with the Ants and LK.

Think I will go to a dollar store and buy some funny money, and send it to the foundation. As it goes to the Ants house, I will stuff the envelope bulging full. I would love to see Cinnys face when she opens it. roflmao.

Thanks again and a safe one to all!!

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

I seriously doubt that they have thousands of letters of support. If they do, then they must have taken one or two letters of support and then photocopied them multiple times each.:sneaky:

They are pathetic.


I like that theory.....:laugh:

[StickyBeak]

I had a really odd take on that exchange when it happened. Larry asked George "How do you sleep at night?" I thought -- wow, he is asking him how he lives with the lies.

I think my take was wrong, but at the time, it sort of got my attention.

I felt the same GumShoeJ, I think LK has their number. Being the A's they took on the Pity Tour faces, went right over their heads. JMO

[Barbara fl.]

I said I wouldn't watch LK, I never do, and kept my promis to myself. lol


Thanks to all the great posters on here it seems I didn't miss much. The same old , same old with the Ants and LK.

Think I will go to a dollar store and buy some funny money, and send it to the foundation. As it goes to the Ants house, I will stuff the envelope bulging full. I would love to see Cinnys face when she opens it. roflmao.

Thanks again and a safe one to all!!


I gave my pledge on the foundation site this morning.....They should have never given a space for comments..:wink:

[Postergeist]

Bolding mine....

Just more proof that Caylee was simply a possession to all of them, and not a human being.

Speaking of possessions- anyone know if the Anthonys still have the portable casket (trunk) on wheels (Casey's car) or if they have sold or donated it?

I personally don't think I could keep a death car around as a constant reminder- but to them, it was just another mobile receptacle for transporting rotting pizza and garbage from one location to the next.

imo

[Dells]

I believe they only had 2 calls last night on the LKL show. That should have told them something. When LK asked Cindy about all the partying Casey was doing she said that was only one night. I was glad when one of the callers asked how come she had so many different outfits on if it was only one night. Of course Cindy had an answer for that----those pictures were old pictures. Yeah, right, Cindy. And I too, heard her say it was probably Casey's way of 'grieving' ---months before Caylee's body was found. ESP???? And their excuse for not going to visit Casey was because they would be hounded by the media....well, let me tell you if it were my child, I would be standing beside them also, but I sure would get my fanny up to at least see them and I would never mentioned Caylee. I could not stand to have them in jail and not go to visit. But I tell you, this family is made of something I am not familiar with. George looks like he is afraid to open his mouth. To tell you the truth for the first time I thought he and Cindy were very uncomfortable last night. Squirming maybe a little? Hopefully---- it's about time.

Bolding mine.....

Oh, and Casey must have photoshopped all of her new friends into her old pictures then.:rolleyes:

[Stella Rose]

This is the second time I have heard cindy attempt to claim the OC was actually working that night. Wonder what fantasy they will come up with at trial to prove it.

Respectfully snipped, Scamp -

Well, IMO, it certainly looked like she was "Working".

Bye all - off to Great Lakes to see my Boyfriend graduate from Navy Basic Training. Woo! Anyone gets a new dress, PM me :sneaky:

[margaritaville]

I'm not confident he was forthcoming with the grand jury. That will be interesting, to me.


That will be very interesting.......

We need a doc. dump.........

MOO

[need2no]

Bolding mine....

I seriously doubt that they have thousands of letters of support. If they do, then they must have taken one or two letters of support and then photocopied them multiple times each.:sneaky:

They are pathetic.

They probably did...now they can write off the ink, paper, and even the printer as a business expense. :wink:

[Barbara fl.]

Speaking of possessions- anyone know if the Anthonys still have the portable casket (trunk) on wheels (Casey's car) or if they have sold or donated it?

I personally don't think I could keep a death car around as a constant reminder- but to them, it was just another mobile receptacle for transporting rotting pizza and garbage from one location to the next.

imo


I believe that car is still with the police....it will be needed for the trial...maybe the stench of death is still in it and the juror's can smell it for themselves......

Also, no normal human being would want that car...they would have to junk it and have it demolished....I wouldn't even want a part off of it....and doubt that anyone else would.....

[GumShoeJoe]

I felt the same GumShoeJ, I think LK has their number. Being the A's they took on the Pity Tour faces, went right over their heads. JMO

So I wasn't the only one? Maybe that was his intent, it did seem to be a spontaneous reaction kind of question.

I also think he had their number. I thought it several times during the hour, and I wasn't expecting it. For example, saying we wil be back to talk about the foundation, then taking viewer calls. Then leaving only a few mintes to speak about the foundation and asking them about salaries and who gets the bears during what he could have let be a "feel good" moment.

There was little doubt in my mind that he flexed his muscles a couple of times, gracefully. Maybe that was one of them. Larry King is no idiot, even if you don't care for his show.

[desmom]

How about when George said other victim families were calling them because they (the Anthonys) were ROLE MODELS????

I almost fell off my chair.

Role Models for the poster family of the year on

How Not to Behave When A Family Member is Missing!

jmo

[*MoonRider*]

Me too, me too.

GEORGE ANTHONY: We've seen since -- other missing children have came up missing since the tragedy with Caylee. We've been a positive role model for all these families. The families reached out to us and asked for help. And we've been doing that almost daily with them.


POSITIVE role models? :scared:

Why didn't George identify at least some of these families that have reached out to them, and use this opportunity to discuss their plights on national TV, and ask for the public's help? Perhaps he should have suggested the public drop them a letter to let them know they are thinking about them. :rolleyes:

I take offense to their new term "tragedy with Caylee". If a stranger did this to her they would say murder of Caylee and they would be for the death penalty. moo

[Stella Rose]

what is pic 17?

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/19459151/detail.html

Could it be a view from the Anthony home of all the media outside?

Argh, really have to go. Out of here at Noon... Woo.

[kellabeck]

This was also one of my favorite exchanges. Bolding is mine.
SNIP
C. ANTHONY: They made an arrest based on the fact that she lied about where she worked. That had nothing to do with Caylee.

:hat:
Cindy should look into a stand-up career. She'd be -- you should excuse the expression -- dead-pan comic, able to say the most ridiculous things and still look serious.

Casey is charged with murder because she lied about "where she worked."

How about asking them, Larry: Your daughter hadn't had a job in two freaking years. So where did you think she was going every day? If you thought she was employed, why did she need to embezzle money and pilfer gasoline???

[need2no]

This is the second time I have heard cindy attempt to claim the OC was actually working that night. Wonder what fantasy they will come up with at trial to prove it.

Respectfully snipped, Scamp -

Well, IMO, it certainly looked like she was "Working".

Bye all - off to Great Lakes to see my Boyfriend graduate from Navy Basic Training. Woo! Anyone gets a new dress, PM me :sneaky:

Surely you didn't expect casey to risk losing her important job as a shot glass manager just to go look for her missing daughter. Ya know jobs are tough to come by these days.

[penguinlady]

There was one issue I was hoping LK would bring up, and he did... Casey's reaction to when she found out a child's remains had been discovered near her home...

Conway answered that, I believe... by saying that it wold be a natural reaction of a mother whose child is missing (I am heavily paraphrasing here, but that was the gist of it).

What I was hoping LK would ask is how her reaction that time compared with any reaction she had (or didn't) when remains were found in another area, also close, but not in the woods near her home, several months before Caylee was found.

Also keeping in mind that it took a while between finding the body and confirming that it was that of Caylee Anthony, while her mother "doubled over" at just hearing that skeletal remains were uncovered near her home. How did she know it was Caylee before it was confirmed?

JMHO


Especailly since she didn't act like that when the "remains" were found at Blanchard Park.

IMO

K

[kellabeck]

They got in the web address....www.cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Cindy made sure that got in.....that and putting in her plug to all the potential juror's was the reason they went on there.....


I would like to see these 1000's of letters they receive of support...I now have classified them as being even lower then the Petersons.....

Even Neil Entwistle's mother hasn't sunk as low as they have.

[Barbara fl.]

I take offense to their new term "tragedy with Caylee". If a stranger did this to her they would say murder of Caylee and they would be for the death penalty. moo

Exactly.....That is proof right there that they do not believe anyone else was involved.....If they truely thought that someone other then their daughter did this, they would be saying "the murder of their grandchild"....not tragedy.....which is an indication that no matter how they are feeling....by saying tragedy is like saying, it was a tragic accident. And why would they say that?....

but either way they choose to look at it, it plays back to Casey.......and by no means was this a tragic accident.....

[Postergeist]

I believe that car is still with the police....it will be needed for the trial...maybe the stench of death is still in it and the juror's can smell it for themselves......

Also, no normal human being would want that car...they would have to junk it and have it demolished....I wouldn't even want a part off of it....and doubt that anyone else would.....

thanks Barbara- I didn't know what all had been released back to the Anthonys.

Think Cindy will ask to have the jurors come to her home so they can smell similar stink in her frig? She seems to make quite the comparison to her frig and the car trunk.

I can't imagine what all they have kept in their frig! My dad who used to work at a funeral home and transported bodies all the time, and also helped with the embalming said the only thing he recalls being similar to human body decay was one time when he ventured over to what was a buzzard's nest and got some of the buzzard's regurgitation on his hands.

That would list higher on the stink test than the Anthony's empty pizza box, etc. imo

[desmom]

Casey Anthony: Terence Lenamon blasts Orlando TV coverage of his Nancy Grace appearance
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-terence-lenamon-blasts-tv-coverage-of-his-nancy-grace-appearance.html

[GumShoeJoe]

Me too, me too.

GEORGE ANTHONY: We've seen since -- other missing children have came up missing since the tragedy with Caylee. We've been a positive role model for all these families. The families reached out to us and asked for help. And we've been doing that almost daily with them.


POSITIVE role models? :scared:

Why didn't George identify at least some of these families that have reached out to them, and use this opportunity to discuss their plights on national TV, and ask for the public's help? Perhaps he should have suggested the public drop them a letter to let them know they are thinking about them. :rolleyes:

Thank you for posting the actual transcript of this. I wanted to see exactly what he said. I think I was banging my head off the armrest during part of it.
You are right, it would have been a great time to help these families with awareness of their loved ones.

[need2no]

I take offense to their new term "tragedy with Caylee". If a stranger did this to her they would say murder of Caylee and they would be for the death penalty. moo

You betcha they would!

Wonder if the Anthony's will make regular visits to the jail once casey is found guilty of murder? Nah, they will probably be too busy with their foundation and keeping Caylee's memory alive, but I'm sure casey will understand. :tonguewag:

[Barbara fl.]

Even Neil Entwistle's mother hasn't sunk as low as they have.

I agree....This is the very worst in all my years of following cases....Scott Peterson's parents were bad enough, but the Anthony's even have them looking good.....

[Dells]

KAYLEE BEARS when the police give these bears to disturbed and/or upset children how will they explain who kaylee was. a beautiful 2 year old who was murdered , stuffed in a garbage bag and left in the woods????????

And murdered by her own mother to boot. Oh, how comforting those bears will be to them! NOT!:sneaky:

[jammies]

I wonder if Cindy spoke to her Mom on Mothers Day. I'd love to know if they still have a relationship and how its going.


I would too. Wish brother Rick would come over here and give us the scoop.

[Dells]

Do you think Cindy called him a leech, a parasite or a maggot after the cameras turned off?

imo

I bet at the very least she was thinking it....:sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

You betcha they would!

Wonder if the Anthony's will make regular visits to the jail once casey is found guilty of murder? Nah, they will probably be too busy with their foundation and keeping Caylee's memory alive, but I'm sure casey will understand. :tonguewag:

Casey won't be kept locally once found guilty...she will go to a prison that holds lifer's of DR prisoners.....The Anthony's will only be able to visit on week ends....(if they can get there).....or if Casey will see them....

[Dells]

By her own mother......That should really comfort a child.....:crying:

My thought exactly!

[jakee]

Exactly.....That is proof right there that they do not believe anyone else was involved.....If they truely thought that someone other then their daughter did this, they would be saying "the murder of their grandchild"....not tragedy.....which is an indication that no matter how they are feeling....by saying tragedy is like saying, it was a tragic accident. And why would they say that?....

but either way they choose to look at it, it plays back to Casey.......and by no means was this a tragic accident.....

I agree, If they thought some murdering nanny was out there they would be calling it a murder! And who was it that called Caylee's murder a terminal event? Conway? I can't remember.

[need2no]

Thank you for posting the actual transcript of this. I wanted to see exactly what he said. I think I was banging my head off the armrest during part of it.
You are right, it would have been a great time to help these families with awareness of their loved ones.

Sorry about your head, but I DO understand.

The constant lack of sleep probably caused George to forget to mention all these families that have contacted them for help and to share their anguish while he had the platform and opportunity to do so.

I don't know about you, but a day in a boat cruising on the water, or even lounging in my pool under the hot sun just wears me out and I sleep like a baby at night :biggrin:
Too bad this doesn't work for George.

[wondering?]

I think there is something more to the diary. Here is the exchange. Right after Conway said if the defense wanted the diary they could have it, the show cut to commercial. The camera stayed on Cindy for a few more seconds and she looked at Conway with fire in her eyes. Seems he said something she didn't like. imo



CONWAY: Larry, I've got custody of that diary. That was written in 2003, June 21st, two years before Caylee was even born.

KING: Who introduced it? Who brought this to the public?

CONWAY: That was disclosed along with the state's discovery.

KING: Why would the prosecutor issue something that was two years before the baby was born?

CONWAY: Because it was released with the discovery.

C. ANTHONY: No, it wasn't, Brad. It wasn't. Let me explain. The prosecutor didn't have that diary, didn't look at the diary. We had it. Someone at the Sheriff's department took a picture of the diary while they were in our house. We have possession of the diary. And leaked it to the media, and the media ran with it.

And then, a few weeks later, Brad showed the state's attorney's office the diary. They don't want it, because it's not evidence.

KING: Can for forensics authorize the date?

CONWAY: Sure, absolutely.

KING: Will you turn it over to a forensic expert?

CONWAY: Absolutely. It's in my state of keeping as an officer of the court. If the defense wants it, it's theirs.

I noticed the look on Cindy's face as she looked at Conway after she said the above and she looked like she could go after him.
From that point on, from my perspective, Cindy's whole demeanor changed for the rest of the show. A "dark" look came over her face and stayed there the rest of the show.
Anyone else notice that?

I am sure that LE would just love to have George working on a case and not sharing with the "higher ups"! Whoever would believe that evidence/knowledge of a situation was ever NOT discussed with the department.

This interview was done well and even Larry King was not his usual smiling self. He had many nervous mannerisms, I think he was just beside himself with disgust. Notice his mouth movements, moving his teeth in and out of his mouth. Thought he was about to bite his tongue for sure!

Good job, Larry! The grandparents should really watch their interviews over and over and realize that they had better stay off TV interviews. Just gets worse.

Poor little Caylee ( sorry for the misspelling of her name last Sat.). I don't have a problem with the Caylee bear but they could have named it something like "Lovey Bear" and put their foundation name on it.

:ohmy: Don't for a minute believe that they are not profiting from this foundation, otherwise how on earth are they surviving. We know that George does not like having a job so much and Cindy would have a hard time trying to be a Nurse, especially believing that rotten food in her frig mimics the smell of a decomposing body! Who would be able to take direction from her as a Manager.

[GumShoeJoe]

Photographer John Azzilonna & Jamie Realander disagree with Cindy: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cdphotos.pdf

The photos were taken at Fusian Ultra Lounge Night Club on the 6th of June, the 13th of June and the 20th of June. Some of which were taken after midnight. Casey was wearing a black dress in the photos on the 6th and 13th and wearing a blue dress on the 20th. I had taken approximately 10 photos and the remaining were taken by Teddy Pieper.

ETA ~ Forgot Jamie Realander - page 4 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/11%20Jamie%20Realander%20Transcript.pdf - Casey was very content and happy when Jamie saw her at Fusians on June 27 and July 11.

I wanted to say thanks for posting this. It is important info. I was never really clear when all those pictures took place.
So it wasn't just one night in a blue dress.

[JHP]

This is the second time I have heard cindy attempt to claim the OC was actually working that night. Wonder what fantasy they will come up with at trial to prove it.

Respectfully snipped, Scamp -

Well, IMO, it certainly looked like she was "Working".

Bye all - off to Great Lakes to see my Boyfriend graduate from Navy Basic Training. Woo! Anyone gets a new dress, PM me :sneaky:

I noticed Cindy claimed last night Lee was an event planner. So Casey will probably have been working for him that evening.
I think the real event planner in the family is Cindy. She tried to plan this whole event. It's just not going her way.

JMO

[DeeJay]

HUGE WASTE!

Every time the A's are given face time.....it's a HUGE WASTE of air time.

The only UPside is, they keep putting their big feet in their mouths.

[need2no]

Casey won't be kept locally once found guilty...she will go to a prison that holds lifer's of DR prisoners.....The Anthony's will only be able to visit on week ends....(if they can get there).....or if Casey will see them....

Hmmm...isn't there such a prison in FL, or do you just mean further away, but still in FL?

I suspect casey won't have a problem seeing them after all is said and done, but I doubt they will have much time for her. It will get awfully tiring hearing casey continue to claim her innocence after the trial, and the Anthony's will be worn out from the charade by then. Heck they may even have a new grandchild to dote on by then. :scared:

[Barbara fl.]

thanks Barbara- I didn't know what all had been released back to the Anthonys.

Think Cindy will ask to have the jurors come to her home so they can smell similar stink in her frig? She seems to make quite the comparison to her frig and the car trunk.

I can't imagine what all they have kept in their frig! My dad who used to work at a funeral home and transported bodies all the time, and also helped with the embalming said the only thing he recalls being similar to human body decay was one time when he ventured over to what was a buzzard's nest and got some of the buzzard's regurgitation on his hands.

That would list higher on the stink test than the Anthony's empty pizza box, etc. imo


Your right...human decomposition could not be taken for food going bad in a refridgerator.....or pizza in a box....or rotten potatoes.....or Georges dirty socks....or anything else.....

The Anthony's seem to want to avoid the obvious....Casey did not report her child missing....lied to LE, causing them to have no leads as to where Caylee was....lying about a job for 2 years....partying (if only for one night) while her daughter is supposedly missing.....So even if Henry Lee tries to discount the odor and tries to discount the hair with the death band.....and the defense argues about how Kronk found the body....The fact will remain that a body was found, thus proving that Caylee is infact deceased.....and she was last seen with her mother....was never reported missing....

The Anthony's, no matter how hard they try, will never be able to get around all that......There is NO out for Casey....she is where she is staying for the rest of her life.....only behind different bars for the long stretch....

[♫Rock*Star♫]

Doesn't matter what Cindy and George said on Larry King Live last night.

Baez is still an idiot.

Casey is still a murderer.

George and Cindy are still liars. Big time.

[Dells]

FGS! Picture #20 - I thought the tee only had Caylee's name on it. It includes their website address! Isn't that like giving a gift and leaving the price tag on the item so everyone knows what you paid for it? jmo

Yes. Very tacky, IMO.:sneaky:

[jammies]

This is the second time I have heard cindy attempt to claim the OC was actually working that night. Wonder what fantasy they will come up with at trial to prove it.

Respectfully snipped, Scamp -

Well, IMO, it certainly looked like she was "Working".

Bye all - off to Great Lakes to see my Boyfriend graduate from Navy Basic Training. Woo! Anyone gets a new dress, PM me :sneaky:


Congrats to your bf!! It's an AWESOME ceremony that you will never forget. My son is in A school at GL.

Hurry back!

[Dick Tracy]

Good Morning to all of you terrible bloggers, that are guilty of picking this case apart and not really understanding the evidence that has been released so far.

Last nights interview on LKL was brutal for the Anthony's. Larry was in rare form (I haven't seen him attack and bombard guests like that ever) during the one hour show. I give him an A. I would have given him a A+ had he followed up on some of the crucial questions. But of course those questions would have been "deferred" to Brad.

Cindy looked tempermental right from the very start. Larry could have put the Anthony family up at a Motel 6 at an undisclosed location near Los Angeles for all we know.

What did the Anthony's get out of the interview? Nothing. What did America get out of this LKL interview. Plenty. Some more insight into how a textbook dysfunctional family deals with the fact that their daughter is an accused murderer.

[Barbara fl.]

Hmmm...isn't there such a prison in FL, or do you just mean further away, but still in FL?

I suspect casey won't have a problem seeing them after all is said and done, but I doubt they will have much time for her. It will get awfully tiring hearing casey continue to claim her innocence after the trial, and the Anthony's will be worn out from the charade by then. Heck they may even have a new grandchild to dote on by then. :scared:


There might be such a prison in Florida, infact I think there is...however that doesn't mean that she will be sent to one here....They usually don't keep them where the crime happened....they will probably send her away and put her with prisoners that have committed the same type of crimes......but she will be in the general population.....that's if she doesn't get the DP...then she will be in a cell all day except for 1 hour a day...and will not be around other inmates....

I think that's how it goes....I don't have any experience in that area (thank goodness)..

[Dells]

One night or Fifty nights of clubbing, what is the difference? Her child is missing!! There should have been ZERO nights.

JMO

Exactly. But, Cindy is the queen of downplaying all of Casey's negative behavior and actions. If something only happens once, then I guess it doesn't matter. Casey only murdered Caylee that one time, so I guess Cindy is giving her a pass for that too.:sneaky:

[desmom]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

LK: Brad, not -- as an attorney, isn't there a way you can arrange with the jail to have her brought in -- to have them brought in in kind of an incognito way to see their daughter?

Brad Conway: What we've been able to do is we can keep them -- we can ask them for -- to stop videotaping. And they will do that. But it will be monitored and it would be taped. And that would probably be released.

I don't see the down side to that. They -- they have good things to say to their daughter -- I love you and their prayers are with her. And so I don't see a down side to going in there. And I don't see a down side to -- to that being broadcast.

Darn painkillers make my brain fuzzy...

Is BC saying he does not see a problem with the A's visiting Casey?

I bet that sits well with JB. jmo

[Stella Rose]

Congrats to your bf!! It's an AWESOME ceremony that you will never forget. My son is in A school at GL.

Hurry back!

Thanks Jammies. I am so excited I am about to bust. Sorry fot the OT all, I know some of you were with me when he left - thanks for all your support. Stella Rose signing off!

[Barbara fl.]

I agree, If they thought some murdering nanny was out there they would be calling it a murder! And who was it that called Caylee's murder a terminal event? Conway? I can't remember.

I believe it was Conway.......In my opinion, he's a terminal event...This guy is really desperate to get his face on the screen....This is probably the biggest case he ever handled...(if it can be called a case for him).....

[seeing_eye]

I found the following exchange interesting:

KING: You mean the picture was from five years ago and they're playing it as if it happened now?

C. ANTHONY: Yes. The one picture of her hanging over her toilet was the 21st birthday. My son took her out with all of her friends for her 21st birthday. I was invited to that party, but I chose to stay home and take care of Caylee.

<respectfully snipped>

[/color]

The whole Anthony clan seems to have trouble with dates. What's up with that? Is there some kind of inheritable disease that causes such confusion about dates? :confused:

[Dells]

According to Cindy IIRC she said they did take photographs of those pages and the D/A has it, too. She acted like it was not even an issue.
They are a bunch of liars!

She also said that they didn't even look at the journal. How did they take a picture of it then if they didn't even look at it? Did they have a blindfold on?:sneaky: Her statements are so ridiculous and so clearly all LIES!

[*MoonRider*]

Hmmm...isn't there such a prison in FL, or do you just mean further away, but still in FL?

I suspect casey won't have a problem seeing them after all is said and done, but I doubt they will have much time for her. It will get awfully tiring hearing casey continue to claim her innocence after the trial, and the Anthony's will be worn out from the charade by then. Heck they may even have a new grandchild to dote on by then. :scared:

She will probably go to Lowell Annex in Ocala, FL. This is where the only female DP inmate is housed. Feel free to browse the current population. :thumbsup: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/FACILITIES/region3/367.html

[AMS]

I believe it was Conway.......In my opinion, he's a terminal event...This guy is really desperate to get his face on the screen....This is probably the biggest case he ever handled...(if it can be called a case for him).....

ITA. I thikn this will hurt his practice in the long run....

imo

[Barbara fl.]

Exactly. But, Cindy is the queen of downplaying all of Casey's negative behavior and actions. If something only happens once, then I guess it doesn't matter. Casey only murdered Caylee that one time, so I guess Cindy is giving her a pass for that too.:sneaky:

Very well said about Cindy.....she may be willing to give Casey a second chance but no one else is, that's for sure...

Lying, stealing....maybe, murder? no way...

[Dells]

Yep, Casey was spotted on video renting movies @ blcokbuster w/ Tony

Apparently at the exact same time she was supposed to be in her "neutral place" after she couldn't locate Caylee and the fake nanny at the vacant apartment where she dropped Caylee off that morning.:sneaky: I guess Blockbusters is Casey's neutral place.

[Barbara fl.]

ITA. I thikn this will hurt his practice in the long run....

imo

That is exactly how I see it....too bad all these attorney's don't see it that way......well at least Lenamon bailed out and so did Nejami....they were smart....the rest will end up like Geragos.....defending the small time women beaters, speeding tickets, drugie's (not even the dealers) the users....shop lifters.....That's the only thing they will be good for after this.....

[desmom]

Did George get more big boy pants?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html


George: I'm not blinded by anything. I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind. I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head that -- I'm pretty -- I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, but I can make up my own mind. I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things.

[Dick Tracy]

She will probably go to Lowell Annex in Ocala, FL. This is where the only female DP inmate is housed. Feel free to browse the current population. :thumbsup: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/FACILITIES/region3/367.html

Whoah... that's a motley looking bunch of women. I'm sorry I browsed the current population!

[bchand]

:hat:
Cindy should look into a stand-up career. She'd be -- you should excuse the expression -- dead-pan comic, able to say the most ridiculous things and still look serious.

Casey is charged with murder because she lied about "where she worked."

How about asking them, Larry: Your daughter hadn't had a job in two freaking years. So where did you think she was going every day? If you thought she was employed, why did she need to embezzle money and pilfer gasoline???


NOW PLAYING - The comedy team of Cindy Anthony & Baghdad Bob !!

[CelticDawn]

She will probably go to Lowell Annex in Ocala, FL. This is where the only female DP inmate is housed. Feel free to browse the current population. :thumbsup: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/FACILITIES/region3/367.html

well all righty then!!!!

[Barbara fl.]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

LK: Brad, not -- as an attorney, isn't there a way you can arrange with the jail to have her brought in -- to have them brought in in kind of an incognito way to see their daughter?

Brad Conway: What we've been able to do is we can keep them -- we can ask them for -- to stop videotaping. And they will do that. But it will be monitored and it would be taped. And that would probably be released.

I don't see the down side to that. They -- they have good things to say to their daughter -- I love you and their prayers are with her. And so I don't see a down side to going in there. And I don't see a down side to -- to that being broadcast.

Darn painkillers make my brain fuzzy...

Is BC saying he does not see a problem with the A's visiting Casey?

I bet that sits well with JB. jmo



So Conway couldn't even talk straight....first he says that they can ask for it not to be videotaped and it probably wont be and then in the same sentence he says "but it will be taped and will be shown"...this guy is just as smart as the Anthony's.....

[need2no]

There might be such a prison in Florida, infact I think there is...however that doesn't mean that she will be sent to one here....They usually don't keep them where the crime happened....they will probably send her away and put her with prisoners that have committed the same type of crimes......but she will be in the general population.....that's if she doesn't get the DP...then she will be in a cell all day except for 1 hour a day...and will not be around other inmates....

I think that's how it goes....I don't have any experience in that area (thank goodness)..

I've never really understood why some convicted criminals are left in their home state to serve their time, and others are not.

Anyway I did a quick google search regarding prisons in FL.-

Prison Facilities: The 137 prison facilities within the Florida Department of Corrections are divided into major institutions, annexes, work camps, work release centers, and road prisons throughout the state. The major institutions incarcerate 84.5% of the state prison inmates. These facilities incarcerate only those inmates convicted and sentenced to more than a year.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/index.html


Also here is a site where you can see pics of the 376 inmates currently on death row in Fl prisons:
http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/ig/Florida-Death-Row-Inmates/

I hope they leave casey in FL so the Anthonys don't have an excuse for not visiting.

[Barbara fl.]

well all righty then!!!!


Oh, I wonder if they would allow me to visit her? If they do send her to Ocala, I can at least drive by and wave to her.....hold up a sign every now and then...

[jammies]

Did George get more big boy pants?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html


George: I'm not blinded by anything. I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind. I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head that -- I'm pretty -- I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, but I can make up my own mind. I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things.


He's still glowing over when LE told him he was a guy who knew alot of things.
Was Cindy gripping his leg whenever he spoke up?

[Barbara fl.]

I've never really understood why some convicted criminals are left in their home state to serve their time, and others are not.

Anyway I did a quick google search regarding prisons in FL.-

Prison Facilities: The 137 prison facilities within the Florida Department of Corrections are divided into major institutions, annexes, work camps, work release centers, and road prisons throughout the state. The major institutions incarcerate 84.5% of the state prison inmates. These facilities incarcerate only those inmates convicted and sentenced to more than a year.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/index.html


Also here is a site where you can see pics of the 376 inmates currently on death row in Fl prisons:
http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/ig/Florida-Death-Row-Inmates/

I hope they leave casey in FL so the Anthonys don't have an excuse for not visiting.

Thanks for the info...I also believe that these prisons here are some of the worst.....Casey should fit right in.....(as long as she has big Burtha on her side):wink:

[Lavinia]

FGS! Picture #20 - I thought the tee only had Caylee's name on it. It includes their website address! Isn't that like giving a gift and leaving the price tag on the item so everyone knows what you paid for it? jmo

Oh for Pete's sake! :rolleyes: I've said it a dozen times, and I'll say it again; opportunists. Period. (It also looks like one of those bears you get out of the claw machine at the grocery store.)

[Barbara fl.]

Oh for Pete's sake! :rolleyes: I've said it a dozen times, and I'll say it again; opportunists. Period. (It also looks like one of those bears you get out of the claw machine at the grocery store.)

I also seen them at the dollar store....well, we didn't think they were going to spend alot....that would take from their profits.......

[RoxyWest]

Good question, but I thought that the possibility of such a plea was rejected by the defense... At least that seems to have been the reason for the last DP attorney's parting ways with Casey's defense team.

JMHO

My guess is that DL wasn't suggesting an insanity plea in the guilt phase but wanted to use mental health (or rather the lack thereof) as a mitigating factor in the penalty phase.

Larry's hair and makeup crew did a good job on Cindy last night. She had her bangs curled down to cover the eyebrows. Took me awhile to figure out what was missing, lol.

Worried about George's skin though. Looks like he's getting waaaay to much sun. Unless he was that red for other reasons.

[Barbara fl.]

My guess is that DL wasn't suggesting an insanity plea in the guilt phase but wanted to use mental health (or rather the lack thereof) as a mitigating factor in the penalty phase.

Larry's hair and makeup crew did a good job on Cindy last night. She had her bangs curled down to cover the eyebrows. Took me awhile to figure out what was missing, lol.

Worried about George's skin though. Looks like he's getting waaaay to much sun. Unless he was that red for other reasons.


Actually speaking...at the penalty phase, all they will have is insanity...It could not be used for a defense....I personally believe that Lenamon wanted to use it for Casey's behavior during the time Caylee was missing....that is going to be the hugh hurdle to get over....But I think that Baez is too affraid of Casey throwing him off the case if any mention of a mental health problem.....Casey still thinks she is going to get off with this and she wouldn't want the stigma of a mental problem to linger over her.....jmo

[jammies]

my colour

No, Cindy told him to say that:tonguewag:


He always sounds like a little kid yelling "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!"

[Dells]

Speaking of possessions- anyone know if the Anthonys still have the portable casket (trunk) on wheels (Casey's car) or if they have sold or donated it?

I personally don't think I could keep a death car around as a constant reminder- but to them, it was just another mobile receptacle for transporting rotting pizza and garbage from one location to the next.

imo

I believe the car is still in police custody and I also believe it is still nice and smelly.

[Kokopelli]

And go Cindy, way to bash Larry's viewers who are encouraged by Larry to post on Larry's blog.

I think Larry was annoyed(?), bothered(?), incredulous(?) with the Anthony's. There was something there, to me.

Maybe he feels like they were trying to exploit his reputation and show to further a bad agenda. I have rarely seen him that pointed in recent years. But he has too much experience and reputation to succumb to foolishness from the Anthonys of all people. This man has sat with Presidents and world religious leaders, for goodness sake.

Hey Joe, did you catch Larry's mouth movements and facial expressions when they would go to commercial...he seemed to be always looking down reading the blogs! haha and definitely looking incredulous! :laugh:

[*MoonRider*]

So Conway couldn't even talk straight....first he says that they can ask for it not to be videotaped and it probably wont be and then in the same sentence he says "but it will be taped and will be shown"...this guy is just as smart as the Anthony's.....

It seems Conway was wrong. Casey will be in good company imo
Of the 49 women who were on death row in 2004, 55 percent (27) of them were convicted of killing their children, their husbands and/or boyfriends or both, according to Victor L. Streib's research in "Death Penalty For Female Offenders, January 1, 1973 through June 30, 2004." Seven of those 27 women who killed family members killed more than one victim.
http://crime.about.com/od/female_offenders/a/row_women.htm

[RoxyWest]

Comparing the loss of a cell phone and keys to losing a child......Doesn't that show what kind of people they really are? It no longer surprises me what Casey did.....

And IIRC correctly, this was stated in reference to her writing suicide notes. Don't know anyone who would think of suicide because their keys or cell phone are lost. So much rubbish! IMO

[Lavinia]

I'm hoping that just because there aren't *pictures* of Casey out partying other nights while Caylee was DEAD, that she expects anyone to believe that is evidence of Casey's grieving solitude, gnashing her teeth and rending her garments at the monastery. :rolleyes:

[Mandymax]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I still pity them. The denial runs wide and deep and long.

They clearly cannot deal with the reality of the situation. It seems to me they're now looking at things as they WISH they were. As in, in their world, Casey is the perfect daughter, they're the perfect family, there's never been any evidence of trouble in any regard, and Caylee was kidnapped and murdered by a stranger. I think they legitimately believe this by now.

Their lives are shattered. They're broken people. Everything they say and do makes sense to THEM because they're not in our world anymore, and they're fighting to stay where they are. And really, the longer they go without being physically confronted with Casey's presence, the easier it is to stay there.

I feel sorry for them. I'll take me with all my problems over their painful existence any day.

As always, my own opinion.

[desmom]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

Cindy: I watched my daughter for nearly three years be the best mom. I mean she's loving and caring. And there's nobody that has come forward that said that Casey wasn't anything other than a loving mother.

From lst 911 call Cindy while waiting for her call to be transferred is talking to Casey: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/transcript_of_third_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.ht ml Because my next thing will be down to child (inaudible) and we'll have a court order to get her. If that's what you want to play, then we'll do it, and you'll never

Ryan Pasley Page 15 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Pasley,%20Ryan0730.pdf Her mom called me uhm, you know, uh, in my summer semester, at one of my classes. I remember the specific time and what I was doing. And she basically told me, “I don’t, I don’t think it’s a good idea that you even talk to Casey anymore because she’s a,” uh, the actually, those are the exact words that came out of her mouth was that she was a sociopath.

Page 33 Amy Huizenga - http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/08%20Amy%20Huizenga%20July%2023,%202008.pdf She said she was worried. She hadn't seen Caylee. She hadn't talked to Caylee in over a month. Uhm, Casey kept saying, "She's fine. She's with the nanny.". Uhm, and she pretty much you know, said that she thought Casey was an unfit mother and that if this goes on much longer that she would sue for custody of Caylee if it got to that.

[Dick Tracy]

Thanks for the link, MR. I sense romance in the OC's future:drool:

Kinda of like, bend over Miss Casey. I'm driving? :ohmy:

[Lavinia]

I also seen them at the dollar store....well, we didn't think they were going to spend alot....that would take from their profits.......

They probably only have that one little sample bear to carry around on the circuit. Poor little bear probably already feels so *used*, lol.

[Pretty Leaf]

Have not read all the posts (would take a week!) but when Larry started the show with the stacks of bloggers comments, Cindy's eyes did a bug out..I just thought Ok Larry's going for it.

For the most part he did but he is not quick on the uptake..Casey grieving..George with people calling him for help all the time ect...

Overall better than I expected. Hope Cindy acrually reads some of the viewers comments..then she can come on the bloggers/chatrooms and start with her explainations (spin).

How can Cindy say that those bloggers don't know everything unless she has been on the blogs/chatrooms?

[CRRJJ]

I dont think it is possible for me..I also think LK did not help in promoting their foundation he ask if they were getting paid they say no and they have 4 others helping just wish he had pulled out the KFN rap sheet so all of America would know they are cons..they failed to name them only GA CA AND LA..but he did a good job of not allowing to much on it IMO..I was happy.. now if he goes and puts a link on his site I will be pizzed but I did not even hear him ask them the web address..:thumbup:

hi Explorer. I am quite sure Cindy did give a website but I'm not going to give it out. I'm not having anything to do with their trickery and lying, cheating ways. Did anyone else hear it?

[Barbara fl.]

And IIRC correctly, this was stated in reference to her writing suicide notes. Don't know anyone who would think of suicide because their keys or cell phone are lost. So much rubbish! IMO

They just don't know how stupid they sound when they open their mouth.....how can anyone possibly compare a frantic 911 call regarding a missing child to (like you say) losing a cell phone or your keys?

Cindy has no other excuse for sounding frantic?



"There's something wrong....I smell the odor of a dead body in my daughters car and by the way I can't find my cell or keys".......If I was trying to get off with a murder rap, I wouldn't want them visiting me either.....

[*MoonRider*]

hi Explorer. I am quite sure Cindy did give a website but I'm not going to give it out. I'm not having anything to do with their trickery and lying, cheating ways. Did anyone else hear it?

I did. I sent an email to CMA this morning. :wink:

[Dick Tracy]

My guess is that DL wasn't suggesting an insanity plea in the guilt phase but wanted to use mental health (or rather the lack thereof) as a mitigating factor in the penalty phase.

Larry's hair and makeup crew did a good job on Cindy last night. She had her bangs curled down to cover the eyebrows. Took me awhile to figure out what was missing, lol.

Worried about George's skin though. Looks like he's getting waaaay to much sun. Unless he was that red for other reasons.

Yeah, George was pretty sunburned/tanned. That's easy to do when you are out in the hot Florida sun bass fishing

I also thought that George was never a detective per say, but more of a small town deputy.. Right?

[Barbara fl.]

They probably only have that one little sample bear to carry around on the circuit. Poor little bear probably already feels so *used*, lol.

I bet they carry it to show on the plane as well......They are pathetic....

[Pretty Leaf]

And IIRC correctly, this was stated in reference to her writing suicide notes. Don't know anyone who would think of suicide because their keys or cell phone are lost. So much rubbish! IMO


When George was asked about his suicide (note I think) did he not say that he wanted to make sure Casey, Cindy and Lee were taken care of.
WTH was in that note?? Was he going to take responsibility for Caylee's death. That was an AHA moment for me.

There has been rumours about her new friends but how else was he going to do to take care of his family? Suicide no insurance payout.

[Scampi]

I'm hoping that just because there aren't *pictures* of Casey out partying other nights while Caylee was DEAD, that she expects anyone to believe that is evidence of Casey's grieving solitude, gnashing her teeth and rending her garments at the monastery. :rolleyes:

Not so fast, I can fully invision the OC rendering her garments at the monastery. At the nunnery, not so much.

[Dick Tracy]

I bet they carry it to show on the plane as well......They are pathetic....

If I were the Anthony's, I wouldn't travel by commercial air right now. Nine out of ten people that they come in contact probably hate their freaking guts.

[Barbara fl.]

Yeah, George was pretty sunburned/tanned. That's easy to do when you are out in the hot Florida sun bass fishing

I also thought that George was never a detective per say, but more of a small town deputy.. Right?

There was never any confirmation as to what law dept he actually worked in.....He was probably a security guard, where they moved from as well......A lot of police officers from other states move to Florida, and they all go right back to being a police officer.....

George just doesn't like to work, neither do the rest of them....Cindy probably had to keep her job in order for the bills to get paid....but we all see how fast she gave up working to sell teddy bears....

[Barbara fl.]

If I were the Anthony's, I wouldn't travel by commercial air right now. Nine out of ten people that they come in contact probably hate their freaking guts.


Well the only other way is via their boat.....I doubt that George would drive all that way....and they would probably be spotted on the road....flying would be the only way for them to go right now....If these shows give them first class, they probably wont be bothered that much.....knowing the Anthony's they probably insist on first class...

I'm sure they get some sly remarks thrown their way.....

[Lavinia]

I've never really understood why some convicted criminals are left in their home state to serve their time, and others are not.

Anyway I did a quick google search regarding prisons in FL.-

Prison Facilities: The 137 prison facilities within the Florida Department of Corrections are divided into major institutions, annexes, work camps, work release centers, and road prisons throughout the state. The major institutions incarcerate 84.5% of the state prison inmates. These facilities incarcerate only those inmates convicted and sentenced to more than a year.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/index.html


Also here is a site where you can see pics of the 376 inmates currently on death row in Fl prisons:
http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/ig/Florida-Death-Row-Inmates/

I hope they leave casey in FL so the Anthonys don't have an excuse for not visiting.

I remember trying to give the A's some advice about this early on, lol, but they didn't listen to Ol' Lavinia. Virtually *everything* the prison does with, to or for and inmate is in exchange for good behavior (whether this is in writing or not. :wink:). Not just good behavior by the inmate, but anyone or anything surrounding the inmate. They will use the inmate's location for good or punishment if needed. If Casey's parents coming to visits with Casey causes the prison grief, they will find a way to curtail those visits. If it somehow causes the prison to have a better handle on Casey by having her parents come (somehow that I can't think of, lol.), they will locate her to an easier location for visitation, if they can.

The prisons desperately need the institutions to run smoothly and will use whatever tool they have to do so. Remember, you only have about 1 uniformed officer per every 100 inmates in a prison. In most prison walls, those officers are NOT armed with firearms but batons and pepper spray and restraints ONLY. Firearms are usually only allowed in guard towers and in some of the main "pickets" but not in the housing with inmates. Behavior modification with privileges and punishment is the prisons biggest, cheapest tool. It may take them a while to change her status because the wheels can grind slowly inside just as they do outside, but those wheels will grind if necessary.

[RoxyWest]

Yes, poor Cindy has a difficult time keeping up with all her mistruths. Note she didn't mention Lee or George either when saying her faith and friends kept her from going through with a suicide. So where are all these friends? I don't recall hearing any of her friends speaking out in all these months....they must be the shy type.

Also I guess George is not a man of faith based on what Cindy said, since he allegedly attempted suicide.

Bolding mine--

Plus wasn't she yelling at him for (supposedly) telling her she couldn't pray when they were on the way out after the deposition? IIRC

[adjmajor]

I too believe in the death penalty and in fact, was a witness to an execution a couple of years ago. Trust me when I tell you - it would be far too humane for the likes of Casey Anthony. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I work for law enforcement at the Federal Level (yes, one of those 3 letter places) and the agents that I work with DO believe in the death penalty!



Well, I believe in the death penalty. If it is proven that someone is guilty of premeditated first degree murder than they should pay the ultimate price. An eye for an eye. Why have you and I as taxpayers pay for an inmate on death row? Why should I give a percentage of my income to help those people stay alive?

As for the Anthony's, VERY VERY early on I felt bad for them until it started coming out that they were seeking immunity (from what, they had nothing to hide right?, or so we thought). They've weaved a string of lies, gotten themselves involved with a ex-felon with KFN and the CMA Foundation, and they are not working, so who's paying the mortgage and the bills? Must be the CMA Foundation? Or you think George with his gambling problems was able to eek out a loan from a "personal friend"?

The Anthony's being on National TV has inflamed roughly 95% of America, that are knowledgable about this case. It appears that the State will find Casey guilty once the trial is over with all of the OVERWHELMING circumstantial evidence. The best thing the Anthony's could do is leave the country until the trial starts, so we just don't see or hear about them and their lies and antics... Why didn't they start the Caylee Memorial Foundation, and have ALL proceeds go somewhere where the money could be used.. Like the wing of a library.. No... The Anthony's are doing nothing but trying to profit of of Caylee's death.

May she rest in peace.

As far as Casey is concerned, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[desmom]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

King: Have you ever pressed your daughter?

George: I talk to my daughter as much as I possibly could. But then again, we never got a chance to really talk to her as much because of the investigation.

Cindy: She was home. We talked to her.

George: At different times, but not the way I wanted to sometimes.

Why not George? Why didn't George talk to Casey the way he wanted to sometimes? What or who held George back? The truth? Your wife? Jose Baez?

George already told LE he moved Caylee's playhouse, he did not like the smell in the car and if he had lost his granddaughter he also lost his daughter.

jmo

[Lavinia]

Not so fast, I can fully invision the OC rendering her garments at the monastery. At the nunnery, not so much.

Darn it all! I just can't keep the heathen in me from showing, can I? :tonguewag:

[DebinNv]

I really believe that deep down, inside somewhere, C and G know that Casey murdered Caylee. I believe their body language and words -- they choose to use, speak volumes about Casey's guilt.
They have already lost Caylee, and they will say or do ANYTHING to try to protect Casey --They don't want to loose her too.
I think that is their definition of "unconditional love."

So sad that she wasn't held accountable years ago for her wrong doings, maybe this could have been avoided, and Caylee would be alive today--so sad.

[101Spots]

ITA. I thikn this will hurt his practice in the long run....

imo

Practice? What kind of practice could he have left at this point? He's constantly at the Anthonys, and we all know *they* aren't paying. I can only imagine he validates parking tickets from 9:00 AM - 10:15 AM, then hotfoots it over to Hopespring Drive to monitor his patients...... er, clients.

[Barbara fl.]

I remember trying to give the A's some advice about this early on, lol, but they didn't listen to Ol' Lavinia. Virtually *everything* the prison does with, to or for and inmate is in exchange for good behavior (whether this is in writing or not. :wink:). Not just good behavior by the inmate, but anyone or anything surrounding the inmate. They will use the inmate's location for good or punishment if needed. If Casey's parents coming to visits with Casey causes the prison grief, they will find a way to curtail those visits. If it somehow causes the prison to have a better handle on Casey by having her parents come (somehow that I can't think of, lol.), they will locate her to an easier location for visitation, if they can.

The prisons desperately need the institutions to run smoothly and will use whatever tool they have to do so. Remember, you only have about 1 uniformed officer per every 100 inmates in a prison. In most prison walls, those officers are NOT armed with firearms but batons and pepper spray and restraints ONLY. Firearms are usually only allowed in guard towers and in some of the main "pickets" but not in the housing with inmates. Behavior modification with privileges and punishment is the prisons biggest, cheapest tool. It may take them a while to change her status because the wheels can grind slowly inside just as they do outside, but those wheels will grind if necessary.


When Florida goes over the finances and sees just how much this woman and her family cost Florida, trust me, they will not be accomodating this family in any way....Florida is not a state to play games with, they can and do get even....they would rather find something on the Anthony's and give them a cell close to Casey's (that might be their closest way to accomodating them).... :wink:

[ttcRider]

I think the A's were under the impression that they would be asked a few questions last night and the remainder of the time would be to promote their 'new' causes... :rolleyes:

[martha]

Good morning everyone, Some ins co do pay off when it is a suicide.I bet george had one like that and he was thinking the money would help his family. That is if he really was going to do that. I have a hard time with anything the a;s say now. just never know if what they say is true or not.I was hearing a lawyer say this morning they don;t have enough on casey to find her guilty boy I sure hope he is wrong.I think if she had a pair of shoes she wore to the woods where caylee was she would have thrown them away.He said they had not matched up anything for casey to have been there.He said there was nothing found in caylee's hair. I just don;t know what to believe since bc said there was no heart sticker on the tape last night.I am worried now about what they have or not have.jmho

[missinglink]

She will probably go to Lowell Annex in Ocala, FL. This is where the only female DP inmate is housed. Feel free to browse the current population. :thumbsup: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/FACILITIES/region3/367.html

Maybe Casey could make friends with inmate Leslie Ballew. Leslie has a SHAMROCK tattoo on her leg!

:tonguewag:

[101Spots]

Did George get more big boy pants?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html


George: I'm not blinded by anything. I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind. I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head that -- I'm pretty -- I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, but I can make up my own mind. I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things.

Nope. Translation in red.

I'm not blinded by anything except Casey or when Cindy tells me.
I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind and ocasionally a protester or two.
I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head except Cindy, Dennis, or Sherri that
I'm pretty, oh, so pretty, it's a pity how pretty I feeeeeeeelllllll...... --
I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, because the evidence it out there to the contrary
but I can make up my own mind if I want fries with that or not.
I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things. Just as soon as Cindy tells me.

[Barbara fl.]

I think the A's were under the impression that they would be asked a few questions last night and the remainder of the time would be to promote their 'new' causes... :rolleyes:

Oh, for sure...they had all intentions of promoting everything they had....Cindy managed to sqeeze it in someway......

Her fake sad face really gets to me......

The Peterson's didn't even go this far.....

[RoxyWest]

You think Cindy wrote that?
I never thought about that!!

Get the handwriting forensic people on that......I wouldn't put that past Cindy for a moment or a minute........

I think that's very possible. And the pages that were removed may have proven that it was written after Caylee's birth.

But, on the other hand, why didn't she just destroy the diary?

[Pretty Leaf]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

King: Have you ever pressed your daughter?

George: I talk to my daughter as much as I possibly could. But then again, we never got a chance to really talk to her as much because of the investigation.

Cindy: She was home. We talked to her.

George: At different times, but not the way I wanted to sometimes.
Why not George? Why didn't George talk to Casey the way he wanted to sometimes? What or who held George back? The truth? Your wife? Jose Baez?

George already told LE he moved Caylee's playhouse, he did not like the smell in the car and if he had lost his granddaughter he also lost his daughter.

jmo

bolding mine

Wasn't that the time when there was a huge fight.

[Lavinia]

I too believe in the death penalty and in fact, was a witness to an execution a couple of years ago. Trust me when I tell you - it would be far too humane for the likes of Casey Anthony. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I work for law enforcement at the Federal Level (yes, one of those 3 letter places) and the agents that I work with DO believe in the death penalty!

I've been around a ton of different kind of people in my life and LE was a big part for a long time. I can't think of ONE LE friend of mine who isn't for the DP. I thought that rang about as false as anything I ever heard. 'Course I'm talking Texans who are known to be a tad more DP than the average person.

I don't think I'm for the DP, personally, but I do have to roll my eyes when they discuss the "humanity" of modern executions, particularly when I hear them complaining about having to cause an inmate pain to find a vein. Heck, my Mom just had 4 needle sticks at the hospital to find a vein this week for an IV and she's hardly ever killed anyone. Tough toenails, about that kind of whining, IMO. I PRAY my death will be so easy.

[Postergeist]

Yes, poor
Plus wasn't she yelling at him for (supposedly) telling her she couldn't pray when they were on the way out after the deposition? IIRC

I believe she was hollering at Miss Zenaida's atty about the praying deal.

That was around the time that George told her to shut up.

:laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

Good morning everyone, Some ins co do pay off when it is a suicide.I bet george had one like that and he was thinking the money would help his family. That is if he really was going to do that. I have a hard time with anything the a;s say now. just never know if what they say is true or not.I was hearing a lawyer say this morning they don;t have enough on casey to find her guilty boy I sure hope he is wrong.I think if she had a pair of shoes she wore to the woods where caylee was she would have thrown them away.He said they had not matched up anything for casey to have been there.He said there was nothing found in caylee's hair. I just don;t know what to believe since bc said there was no heart sticker on the tape last night.I am worried now about what they have or not have.jmho


There was no match up for Scott Peterson either....look where he is....

[martha]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

King: Have you ever pressed your daughter?

George: I talk to my daughter as much as I possibly could. But then again, we never got a chance to really talk to her as much because of the investigation.

Cindy: She was home. We talked to her.

George: At different times, but not the way I wanted to sometimes.

Why not George? Why didn't George talk to Casey the way he wanted to sometimes? What or who held George back? The truth? Your wife? Jose Baez?

George already told LE he moved Caylee's playhouse, he did not like the smell in the car and if he had lost his granddaughter he also lost his daughter.

jmo ITA I don;t think cindy would let him talk to casey the way he wanted to. I think g would have ask her some questions she would not have wanted to ans.jmho

[*MoonRider*]

Maybe Casey could make friends with inmate Leslie Ballew. Leslie has a SHAMROCK tattoo on her leg!

:tonguewag:

I think her BFF will be Tiffany Cole on Death Row.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=195&From=list&SessionID=419638578

[Dick Tracy]

I too believe in the death penalty and in fact, was a witness to an execution a couple of years ago. Trust me when I tell you - it would be far too humane for the likes of Casey Anthony. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I work for law enforcement at the Federal Level (yes, one of those 3 letter places) and the agents that I work with DO believe in the death penalty!

Yes, I think that the needle would be too far humane for the OC. However the pressure that will come upon her as her termination date comes closer will drive her crazy. Knowing that she is going to put to death on a certain date. That will be a real pressure cooker.

And then there's St. Peter at the Pearly Gates with his clipboard full of questions and she's going to have to answer to him.

[Postergeist]

bolding mine

Wasn't that the time when there was a huge fight.


I think that was the time that Lenny and his bondspeople were in the home- also around the time that Tim Miller was in the home and he gave his own impressions about how strange the whole family acted and how Casey stayed in her room most of the time.

imo

[Xmygrits]

But I am sure she was looking behind the shelves and in the corner for Caylee also...

Like she did at Fusion, looking under the tables ect. to see if Caylee was there...........:sneaky:

Oh I get it! Cindy was right! Casey was actually whispering questions to that girl in the Fusian photo whether she had seen Caylee or Zeniada the 10. The leg humping part was just a cover-up so no one would be suspicious that she was conducting under cover investigations.

Speaking of 'under cover investigations', wasn't she doing some of that at Tone's place too?

So see, we have all been totally wrong about Casey all along.

[missinglink]

I think her BFF will be Tiffany Cole on Death Row.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=195&From=list&SessionID=419638578

Where do I click to get a pic to come up?

Sorry...found it! OMG!!!

[Dick Tracy]

There was never any confirmation as to what law dept he actually worked in.....He was probably a security guard, where they moved from as well......A lot of police officers from other states move to Florida, and they all go right back to being a police officer.....

George just doesn't like to work, neither do the rest of them....Cindy probably had to keep her job in order for the bills to get paid....but we all see how fast she gave up working to sell teddy bears....

There isn't a whole lot of information on George's past. We need a background check done on him, STAT!

[Barbara fl.]

Oh I get it! Cindy was right! Casey was actually whispering questions to that girl in the Fusian photo whether she had seen Caylee or Zeniada the 10. The leg humping part was just a cover-up so no one would be suspicious that she was conducting under cover investigations.

Speaking of 'under cover investigations', wasn't she doing some of that at Tone's place too?

So see, we have all been totally wrong about Casey all along.



I love it....:laugh:

[*MoonRider*]

Where do I click to get a pic to come up?

I had the wrong link try this http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=195&From=list&SessionID=419638578

[Xmygrits]

Nope. Translation in red.

I'm not blinded by anything except Casey or when Cindy tells me.
I mean I -- I attack everything every day with an open mind and ocasionally a protester or two.
I mean, I don't let someone speak for me or someone to put ideas into my head except Cindy, Dennis, or Sherri that
I'm pretty, oh, so pretty, it's a pity how pretty I feeeeeeeelllllll...... --
I don't want to say I'm an intelligent guy, because the evidence it out there to the contrary
but I can make up my own mind if I want fries with that or not.
I mean, I know what's going on with a lot of things. Just as soon as Cindy tells me.

LMAO! Bravo! Standin O! (Loved it)

[RoxyWest]

I noticed the look on Cindy's face as she looked at Conway after she said the above and she looked like she could go after him.
From that point on, from my perspective, Cindy's whole demeanor changed for the rest of the show. A "dark" look came over her face and stayed there the rest of the show.
Anyone else notice that?

I am sure that LE would just love to have George working on a case and not sharing with the "higher ups"! Whoever would believe that evidence/knowledge of a situation was ever NOT discussed with the department.

This interview was done well and even Larry King was not his usual smiling self. He had many nervous mannerisms, I think he was just beside himself with disgust. Notice his mouth movements, moving his teeth in and out of his mouth. Thought he was about to bite his tongue for sure!
Good job, Larry! The grandparents should really watch their interviews over and over and realize that they had better stay off TV interviews. Just gets worse.

Poor little Caylee ( sorry for the misspelling of her name last Sat.). I don't have a problem with the Caylee bear but they could have named it something like "Lovey Bear" and put their foundation name on it.

:ohmy: Don't for a minute believe that they are not profiting from this foundation, otherwise how on earth are they surviving. We know that George does not like having a job so much and Cindy would have a hard time trying to be a Nurse, especially believing that rotten food in her frig mimics the smell of a decomposing body! Who would be able to take direction from her as a Manager.

Bolding mine--

Glad you mentioned that. I actually had to rewind to make sure I wasn't seeing things. When they would break for commercial, but he was still on camera, he was doing weird things with his dentures. IMO

[martha]

There was no match up for Scott Peterson either....look where he is....
Thank you for keeping me straight I get so upset to think someone would get away with killing their baby. I know it will be a long time before they have a trial on this but I sure want justice for Caylee.:wub:jmho

[Barbara fl.]

There isn't a whole lot of information on George's past. We need a background check done on him, STAT!

I wonder why they haven't done that...I would love to know why he is no longer a (whatever) ?

I think this family has a lot of skeletons in their closets...we also never heard from any of Casey's old class mates or teachers.....

[Daffodil]

Have not read all the posts (would take a week!) but when Larry started the show with the stacks of bloggers comments, Cindy's eyes did a bug out..I just thought Ok Larry's going for it.

For the most part he did but he is not quick on the uptake..Casey grieving..George with people calling him for help all the time ect...

Overall better than I expected. Hope Cindy acrually reads some of the viewers comments..then she can come on the bloggers/chatrooms and start with her explainations (spin).

How can Cindy say that those bloggers don't know everything unless she has been on the blogs/chatrooms?



thank you for reminding me about George helping so many people. Larry should have asked him, "George, tell me about , or say three people that you have helped since this all happened."

[RoxyWest]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

LK: Brad, not -- as an attorney, isn't there a way you can arrange with the jail to have her brought in -- to have them brought in in kind of an incognito way to see their daughter?

Brad Conway: What we've been able to do is we can keep them -- we can ask them for -- to stop videotaping. And they will do that. But it will be monitored and it would be taped. And that would probably be released.

I don't see the down side to that. They -- they have good things to say to their daughter -- I love you and their prayers are with her. And so I don't see a down side to going in there. And I don't see a down side to -- to that being broadcast.

Darn painkillers make my brain fuzzy...

Is BC saying he does not see a problem with the A's visiting Casey? I bet that sits well with JB. jmo

Bolding mine.

That's EXACTLY what he's saying. I was VERY surprised that he crossed the A's in such a big way. Makes me think he MAY follow Nejame into the light.

[Barbara fl.]

Thank you for keeping me straight I get so upset to think someone would get away with killing their baby. I know it will be a long time before they have a trial on this but I sure want justice for Caylee.:wub:jmho

Dont be so sure it will be that far away...Florida doesn't drag things on....and this defense seems to be in a hurry to get to the trial phase so they can expose their expertise (ha)....

I still believe it will go as scheduled....or just a little there after.....

[AMS]

I think the A's were under the impression that they would be asked a few questions last night and the remainder of the time would be to promote their 'new' causes... :rolleyes:

ITA ttc. At first, I think there were other guests booked for last night as well. I think the "blogger" traffic on Larry's site resulted in him giving the A's the entire show. Yeah for the bloggers :wink:

imo

[martha]

c and g knew the day they picked up the car Caylle was dead. why would you go home and look in your back yard. That tells me a lot right there. c and g both know the smell of the car was a death smell.Now they can lie all they want to now but it will never change the fact they went home and checked their back yard and c started to clean the car up. They would not have done that if they thought it was someone elce besides casey that did this. I bet casey told them when she left mad they woold never see caylee again.jmho

[101Spots]

Bolding mine.

That's EXACTLY what he's saying. I was VERY surprised that he crossed the A's in such a big way. Makes me think he MAY follow Nejame into the light.

The light doesn't want him.

[Lavinia]

When Florida goes over the finances and sees just how much this woman and her family cost Florida, trust me, they will not be accomodating this family in any way....Florida is not a state to play games with, they can and do get even....they would rather find something on the Anthony's and give them a cell close to Casey's (that might be their closest way to accomodating them).... :wink:

They need to realize that once she's convicted, they will have a very tiny voice however mightily it roars. Casey will have virtually no power. She will have no political, financial or in any other way, influential power besides commissary and romantic. My goodness, a politician cant even squeeze a little teeny, tiny, vote out of her in prison. There would be the rare politician, who is suicidal, that would take up any kind of cause for her.

She will be another forgotten, forsaken piece of flotsam and jetsam of the correctional suite. IMO.

[martha]

Dont be so sure it will be that far away...Florida doesn't drag things on....and this defense seems to be in a hurry to get to the trial phase so they can expose their expertise (ha)....

I still believe it will go as scheduled....or just a little there after..... I sure hope so because as old as I am I might not be around if they wait to long, I just really want to see what they have on her and I am sure we don;t know all they have right now.jmho

[Lavinia]

The light doesn't want him.

:laugh: Rejected by the light. How embarrassing. :blushing:

[Barbara fl.]

c and g knew the day they picked up the car Caylle was dead. why would you go home and look in your back yard. That tells me a lot right there. c and g both know the smell of the car was a death smell.Now they can lie all they want to now but it will never change the fact they went home and checked their back yard and c started to clean the car up. They would not have done that if they thought it was someone elce besides casey that did this. I bet casey told them when she left mad they woold never see caylee again.jmho

I feel as you do....they knew right away that Caylee was gone....Cindy even said to George when he got home "we lost Caylee"....not that Caylee is missing or that the nanny got Caylee...but "we lost Caylee"........

[need2no]

IMHO the primary reason Cindy is defending casey and deflecting is her own fear that the truth will come out loud and clear for all the world to hear. No, not the truth about who killed Caylee, Cindy knows casey did it. The confusion in this case is casey's motivation to kill Caylee and the answer to that is revenge against CINDY. Cindy is consumed with concern that this is what will be blantantly obvious during the trial. So...meanwhile she is in self protection mode by pretending casey didn't murder Caylee; thereby letting both of them off the hook and easing her guilt. Of course her main concern is herself, not casey.

[Daffodil]

Bolding mine--

Glad you mentioned that. I actually had to rewind to make sure I wasn't seeing things. When they would break for commercial, but he was still on camera, he was doing weird things with his dentures. IMO

I noticed his facial expressions also. I think he finally may have an inkling as to what kind of people they are.

[Barbara fl.]

They need to realize that once she's convicted, they will have a very tiny voice however mightily it roars. Casey will have virtually no power. She will have no political, financial or in any other way, influential power besides commissary and romantic. My goodness, a politician cant even squeeze a little teeny, tiny, vote out of her in prison. There would be the rare politician, who is suicidal, that would take up any kind of cause for her.

She will be another forgotten, forsaken piece of flotsam and jetsam of the correctional suite. IMO.



Same as Scott......:biggrin:

[Barbara fl.]

I sure hope so because as old as I am I might not be around if they wait to long, I just really want to see what they have on her and I am sure we don;t know all they have right now.jmho




Again I feel as you do....I'm too old to wait too long.....they have to hurry this thing up....:biggrin:

[Daffodil]

IMHO the primary reason Cindy is defending casey and deflecting is her own fear that the truth will come out loud and clear for all the world to hear. No, not the truth about who killed Caylee, Cindy knows casey did it. The confusion in this case is casey's motivation to kill Caylee and the answer to that is revenge against CINDY. Cindy is consumed with concern that this is what will be blantantly obvious during the trial. So...meanwhile she is in self protection mode by pretending casey didn't murder Caylee; thereby letting both of them off the hook and easing her guilt. Of course her main concern is herself, not casey.

I agree with you 100% and thousands of people have told me that they also agree with me.

Big secret. BIG, BIG, BIG SECRET!!!!

[5boxersmom]

c and g knew the day they picked up the car Caylle was dead. why would you go home and look in your back yard. That tells me a lot right there. c and g both know the smell of the car was a death smell.Now they can lie all they want to now but it will never change the fact they went home and checked their back yard and c started to clean the car up. They would not have done that if they thought it was someone elce besides casey that did this. I bet casey told them when she left mad they woold never see caylee again.jmho

Yep I agree sweet Martha. :biggrin:

I have always wondered if she threaten to kill Caylee then, when they were fighting. Of course we will never know.

imo

[Barbara fl.]

IMHO the primary reason Cindy is defending casey and deflecting is her own fear that the truth will come out loud and clear for all the world to hear. No, not the truth about who killed Caylee, Cindy knows casey did it. The confusion in this case is casey's motivation to kill Caylee and the answer to that is revenge against CINDY. Cindy is consumed with concern that this is what will be blantantly obvious during the trial. So...meanwhile she is in self protection mode by pretending casey didn't murder Caylee; thereby letting both of them off the hook and easing her guilt. Of course her main concern is herself, not casey.



Post of the day...so true and well put.....I never thought of it that way......:thumbup:

[Xmygrits]

c and g knew the day they picked up the car Caylle was dead. why would you go home and look in your back yard. That tells me a lot right there. c and g both know the smell of the car was a death smell.Now they can lie all they want to now but it will never change the fact they went home and checked their back yard and c started to clean the car up. They would not have done that if they thought it was someone elce besides casey that did this. I bet casey told them when she left mad they woold never see caylee again.jmho

I agree with you martha, 100%!

[sydney]

hi guys. i don't understand what g&c hoped to gain by going on lkl. i mean, they talked about caley's tragedy and their sad plight and did nothing to promote their daughter's innocence. i would have thought that they would prepare themselves for negativity and have answers (coherent ones) to give to potential negative callers/bloggers instead of the nonsensical phrases they came up to answer some of the questions. i also wonder why lee, with his total belief in his sister, doesn't appear with them?

i wonder why they never talk about casey and how the "tragedy" is affecting her? about how much sleep she is missing, how she can't eat, etc. it seems to me that if they were truly advocates for their daughter's innocence, they would stop talking about how much THEY were hurt and instead of talk about how much CASEY is hurt that *someone* killed her child. i think by keeping the focus on themselves trying to "keep caylee's memory alive" (paraphrasing) they are trying to prove how caylee was so much more important to them than to casey. remember casey saying cindy said something about cindy trying to be caylee's mother and george said there was some friction between them because of that?

anyone get where i'm trying to go?

[GumShoeJoe]

Bolding mine.

That's EXACTLY what he's saying. I was VERY surprised that he crossed the A's in such a big way. Makes me think he MAY follow Nejame into the light.

Makes me think Conway is another one who doesn't care for the things Baez is doing (Baez not wanting Casey to to talk to her parents and Conway disagreeing).

[Xmygrits]

Since I found out yesterday that I am a worthless piece of blogger doo I've had a little question nagging at me. If a person creates a myspace blog, lets say last July 3, would that be considered blogging?


Ha ha Cindy! Hate to break it to ya babe but you are pethetic blogger doo too!

[Lavinia]

I love your posts:wub:

Lavinia, what's your take on the jail rep referring to the OC as a model prisoner (or words to that effect)?

Thank you so much lizziegirl. That's sweet of you to say.

I think as long as she's not in there gang-banging and throwing feces in the faces of the guards, etc., they will give her a pretty good line. They won't start trouble for her if she's not causing them any. They will NEVER, EVER, EVER trust her, but a "good" inmate goes a long way. The staff is just there to get through a day, if she makes it easier for them to get through it, they will leave her be.

It's pretty darn easy to be "good" when you're segregated in county, BTW. She has no real challenges yet. She may always be a model prisoner, but she's going to have a choice to make before long. In the young population "model prisoners" don't mix well with the "criminal" prisoners, lol. Not only does misery love company, but the suspicion of how they came to be so dang "model" doesn't escape the thoughts of those other inmates who don't want everything known about them. The only "good" prisoners I knew who did well with the other inmate pop. was some of the old convicts. The young guys knew they (the old guys) were just doing time. If you can get in prison and "just do your time", it can be a pretty routine life. But it's a real delicate balance on how each person best serves their time, with no great answer for all, I'm afraid. You have to have a great mind for strategy, a personality that is respected and a whole lot of luck, IMO. I'm anxious to see how she does in the long run.

[KittyMom]

Since I found out yesterday that I am a worthless piece of blogger doo I've had a little question nagging at me. If a person creates a myspace blog, lets say last July 3, would that be considered blogging?


Ha ha Cindy! Hate to break it to ya babe but you are pethetic blogger doo too!

:laugh: Why yes she is!!!

[kitty1182]

I watched the LK youtubes..I must admit, he did better than I was expecting....

[Barbara fl.]

:laugh: Why yes she is!!!



And lets not forget that she is praying for US.....not Casey, but for US.......not Caylee....but for US......:rolleyes:

[Lavinia]

Same as Scott......:biggrin:

EXACTLY like Scotty! :thumbsup: I don't think he's pounding back the chardonnay and hitting the back nine anymore is he, and I don't hear a soul crying about it. (Sorry Ma Peterson, I can't hear you.)

Oh my, I'm extra snarky today. Maybe I shouldn't watch any more media when they're on. :ohmy: Where are my chill pills?

[RoxyWest]

At the beginning of the show, I felt that someone who didn't know much about the case might get taken in by them. But I rhink Larry's questions and their weak responses would arouse suspicion.

The main thing for me though is this baloney about helping others. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. They are still hurting and are the ones that need help coping if you ask me.

Just as with their torpedoed keynote speech at that conference, it is all too premature.

After the trial is over and they have had time to come to grips with the situation, then, yes, maybe they could be helpful to others. But again, perhaps only helpful to those who have loved ones killed by other loved ones. Not families of missing children.

[Susie419]

I know there are many Lenny believers here, but he will go on the stand. IIRC, he said that George did confront Casey, nearly lost it, was ranting and raving about where his grandaughter is to Casey, GA was very angry. There's no way I would believe that Casey came home after being in jail, and Cindy and George, and Lee didn't confront her and demand to know the truth.
I'd have shook and rattled my daughter til her brains scrambled to find out something if it were me in that situation. I DO believe this happened.
I do also believe that Casey left with Caylee after a huge fight with Cindy, and Casey told Cindy that she'de never see Caylee again. Don't remember where I read that (I suffer CRSSyndrome:laugh:)then Casey returned the following day when Cindy was out, (last time GA saw Caylee) and that's the day she did the dirty deed. It was to spite Cindy, because "Maybe she's a spiteful B!tch" Didn't she say that to somebody?

[Lavinia]

I'd suggest you call your lead detective, but she's probably still in bed:tonguewag:

:lol::laugh:

[steffaroob4]

I went to Caylee's Foundation site and i was very happy to see Casey's name was not mentioned once.


http://cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

the links page makes me ill:w00t:

[desmom]

bolding mine

Wasn't that the time when there was a huge fight.

Forgot about the fight. That is when Lenny bailed her out, JB tried to hide her behind black umbrellas, George left in a huff and pizza was delivered from a message board. Here is the video http://www.wftv.com/video/17257635/index.html

[Barbara fl.]

Thank you so much lizziegirl. That's sweet of you to say.

I think as long as she's not in there gang-banging and throwing feces in the faces of the guards, etc., they will give her a pretty good line. They won't start trouble for her if she's not causing them any. They will NEVER, EVER, EVER trust her, but a "good" inmate goes a long way. The staff is just there to get through a day, if she makes it easier for them to get through it, they will leave her be.

It's pretty darn easy to be "good" when you're segregated in county, BTW. She has no real challenges yet. She may always be a model prisoner, but she's going to have a choice to make before long. In the young population "model prisoners" don't mix well with the "criminal" prisoners, lol. Not only does misery love company, but the suspicion of how they came to be so dang "model" doesn't escape the thoughts of those other inmates who don't want everything known about them. The only "good" prisoners I knew who did well with the other inmate pop. was some of the old convicts. The young guys knew they (the old guys) were just doing time. If you can get in prison and "just do your time", it can be a pretty routine life. But it's a real delicate balance on how each person best serves their time, with no great answer for all, I'm afraid. You have to have a great mind for strategy, a personality that is respected and a whole lot of luck, IMO. I'm anxious to see how she does in the long run.

I too enjoy your post's .....Casey will never survive....Great mind? not her, Personality?...not her, Respected?.....not her, ...Luck?...she better not try to steal anything in the big house....Her luck will run out....:wink:

[Barbara fl.]

I know there are many Lenny believers here, but he will go on the stand. IIRC, he said that George did confront Casey, nearly lost it, was ranting and raving about where his grandaughter is to Casey, GA was very angry. There's no way I would believe that Casey came home after being in jail, and Cindy and George, and Lee didn't confront her and demand to know the truth.
I'd have shook and rattled my daughter til her brains scrambled to find out something if it were me in that situation. I DO believe this happened.
I do also believe that Casey left with Caylee after a huge fight with Cindy, and Casey told Cindy that she'de never see Caylee again. Don't remember where I read that (I suffer CRSSyndrome:laugh:)then Casey returned the following day when Cindy was out, (last time GA saw Caylee) and that's the day she did the dirty deed. It was to spite Cindy, because "Maybe she's a spiteful B!tch" Didn't she say that to somebody?



It hasn't been stated what side Lenny will be called for....does anyone know? All NG says is that he will be called to take the stand, but she never says for whom......just curious....

[AlohaRainbow]

I found the following exchange interesting:

KING: You mean the picture was from five years ago and they're playing it as if it happened now?

C. ANTHONY: Yes. The one picture of her hanging over her toilet was the 21st birthday. My son took her out with all of her friends for her 21st birthday. I was invited to that party, but I chose to stay home and take care of Caylee.
*snip*
i guess cindy isn't very good at math... if that toilet bowl hugging photo was from 5 years ago when she turned 21... that would now make her (wait... counting on my fingers and toes here... borrowing my daughter's fingers and toes...) ta da! that would now make her 26 years old :tongueside:

[eagleeer]

DCF worker depo with Baez. Sorry if this a repeat.

"Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy."

http://www.wftv.com/news/19455990/detail.html

Shouldn't be hard to figure out who this supposed father is with this information. The Anthonys have to know where this trust fund was and who started it. Unleash the detectives and let's find out who this father is or was. I do not believe he is dead. How about finding the family in Italy and get some DNA. Maybe LE already knows but I would think that it should have come out in the discovery by now. Who is in charge of the so called trust and what has happened to it now that Caylee is deceased?

[Lavinia]

:thumbsup:

(Morning all!)

Good morning Annie Pooh! Do you have anything to share? :sneaky:

[marshmallow]

the links page makes me ill:w00t:

the only link that doesn't work or isn't there is to the National Center For Missing & Exploited Children

[Lavinia]

You didn't miss it, Neff. They didn't show that part on youtube.

Was it too bad for YouTube? :laugh:

[KittyMom]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/05/casey-anthony-terence-lenamon-blasts-tv-coverage-of-his-nancy-grace-appearance.html

Casey Anthony: Terence Lenamon blasts Orlando TV coverage of his Nancy Grace appearance
posted by halboedeker on May 14, 2009 10:40:54 AM

Lenamon took issue with analyses of his short interview on Grace's Headline News program.

"It's a huge stretch for anyone to think because I'm positing mental-health issues that I'm conceding guilt," Lenamon said. "That's so far from the truth. What we're talking about is looking at explanations that someone would act that way in a certain period of time."

[Dick Tracy]

I'd suggest you call your lead detective, but she's probably still in bed:tonguewag:

Yes where is Annie?? Geesh! Everyday's a Friday with her!!!!

[Dick Tracy]

DCF worker depo with Baez. Sorry if this a repeat.

"Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy."

http://www.wftv.com/news/19455990/detail.html

Shouldn't be hard to figure out who this supposed father is with this information. The Anthonys have to know where this trust fund was and who started it. Unleash the detectives and let's find out who this father is or was. I do not believe he is dead. How about finding the family in Italy and get some DNA. Maybe LE already knows but I would think that it should have come out in the discovery by now. Who is in charge of the so called trust and what has happened to it now that Caylee is deceased?

Yeah, they're living in Italy, probably friends of Pascal and his band of friends up there in Paris.

It sure could be looked into. But alas, just like everything else, it will be not true....

MAN, can that family LIE or what? It's ridiculous after a while.

[101Spots]

DCF worker depo with Baez. Sorry if this a repeat.

"Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy."

http://www.wftv.com/news/19455990/detail.html

Shouldn't be hard to figure out who this supposed father is with this information. The Anthonys have to know where this trust fund was and who started it. Unleash the detectives and let's find out who this father is or was. I do not believe he is dead. How about finding the family in Italy and get some DNA. Maybe LE already knows but I would think that it should have come out in the discovery by now. Who is in charge of the so called trust and what has happened to it now that Caylee is deceased?

Okay, lets figure this out.

1. Casey lied about the trust fund.

Gee, it kinda dead-ends right there, huh? Drat.

[bchand]

I too believe in the death penalty and in fact, was a witness to an execution a couple of years ago. Trust me when I tell you - it would be far too humane for the likes of Casey Anthony. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I work for law enforcement at the Federal Level (yes, one of those 3 letter places) and the agents that I work with DO believe in the death penalty!

That's another point. George had nerve speaking for LE when he said most of them do NOT believe in the dealth penalty. I'd like to see his link for that !

[msgatorslayer]

I know there are many Lenny believers here, but he will go on the stand. IIRC, he said that George did confront Casey, nearly lost it, was ranting and raving about where his grandaughter is to Casey, GA was very angry. There's no way I would believe that Casey came home after being in jail, and Cindy and George, and Lee didn't confront her and demand to know the truth.
I'd have shook and rattled my daughter til her brains scrambled to find out something if it were me in that situation. I DO believe this happened.
I do also believe that Casey left with Caylee after a huge fight with Cindy, and Casey told Cindy that she'de never see Caylee again. Don't remember where I read that (I suffer CRSSyndrome:laugh:)then Casey returned the following day when Cindy was out, (last time GA saw Caylee) and that's the day she did the dirty deed. It was to spite Cindy, because "Maybe she's a spiteful B!tch" Didn't she say that to somebody?

I share your belief. No pompous, lying brat, not even my Daughter, will smuggly go to jail after lying about what happened to her own Daughter, call my house from jail asking for her boyfriends number, saying that calling was a HUGE WASTE, only to get sprung outta jail while my families name is all over the news, and come home to bake brownies while I sit back in the corner and do nothing.

If she didn't speak and make sense I would have been calling LE back saying they best take her into protective custody cause I'm about to knock the snot outta her nose.

[steffaroob4]

the only link that doesn't work or isn't there is to the National Center For Missing & Exploited Children

after seeing the links page, I closed the site, I don't want to give them any more traffic from me, to use for advertising opportunities.


MOO of LKL show, what I saw:

blah, blah, blah, mean bloggers...
blah, blah, blah, nobody knows what we have been through...
blah, blah, blah, gee Larry King is a lot tougher than he was last time, maybe we should have stayed home...
blah, blah, blah, we are different, we are the first people to be in this situation

[need2no]

Post of the day...so true and well put.....I never thought of it that way......:thumbup:

Thanks!

To take it a step further I also think this is one reason why George always appears so uncomfortable on these shows. George knows what's driving Cindy. He doesn't mind talking to the media on his terms and when he can determine when the interview will be terminated; but fears being on talk shows being asked straightforward questions he can't answer with any logical, sensible or credible response. Also the man is probably scared chitless wondering what will come out of Cindy's mouth, and if he will say the right thing to please her. He comes off like a little boy who is only attending the wedding and reception because his mama made him get dressed up and go with warnings for him to behave. Meanwhile he is miserable and fearful he won't say or do everything to suit mama Cindy and is afraid mama will be pissed at him.

Judging from his appearance he only tags along on these talk shows at Cindy's insistence, combined with the motivation of a free trip out of town, Conway as a backup to respond to the tough questions, and an opportunity to promote his new 'job'.

[summer4meplz]

DCF worker depo with Baez. Sorry if this a repeat.

"Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy."

http://www.wftv.com/news/19455990/detail.html

Shouldn't be hard to figure out who this supposed father is with this information. The Anthonys have to know where this trust fund was and who started it. Unleash the detectives and let's find out who this father is or was. I do not believe he is dead. How about finding the family in Italy and get some DNA. Maybe LE already knows but I would think that it should have come out in the discovery by now. Who is in charge of the so called trust and what has happened to it now that Caylee is deceased?

bolded by me...I am thinking (hoping and praying) that the pros have a whole lot that we don't know.....

[msgatorslayer]

That's another point. George had nerve speaking for LE when he said most of them do NOT believe in the dealth penalty. I'd like to see his link for that !

I think he may have been talking about Ohio LE. Surely not, Florida LE, lmao. They taser and handcuff kids here, remember?

[Lavinia]

I too enjoy your post's .....Casey will never survive....Great mind? not her, Personality?...not her, Respected?.....not her, ...Luck?...she better not try to steal anything in the big house....Her luck will run out....:wink:

Thank you too Barb!

The only thing I see getting her out of this is either a romantic protector (although that doesn't usually last long anyway) or some fascination with her notoriety which I seriously doubt. There will always be someone trying to knock her off of any pedestal she gets on. Right now, with what little I know about Fla. prisons, I would *think* she will be in segregated housing for some time to come only to be released into general population when/if she gets older and everything mellows out a bit. Ad Seg units in state prisons are HUGE. We're not talking a few cells, we're talking hundreds per facility. Some inmates kind of like AdSeg. (Of course it's the ones who know Gen. Pop. is either an instant death sentence or those who can't handle the stress of population.) Most inmate's HATE AD-Seg and I've seen it turn some relatively normal inmates into slobbering, catatonic animals. (An apt description, I'm afraid.) Blech.

[summer4meplz]

after seeing the links page, I closed the site, I don't want to give them any more traffic from me, to use for advertising opportunities.


MOO of LKL show, what I saw:

blah, blah, blah, mean bloggers...
blah, blah, blah, nobody knows what we have been through...
blah, blah, blah, gee Larry King is a lot tougher than he was last time, maybe we should have stayed home...
blah, blah, blah, we are different, we are the first people to be in this situation


the "we are role models" comment made me want to puke....:cursing:

[bchand]

It hasn't been stated what side Lenny will be called for....does anyone know? All NG says is that he will be called to take the stand, but she never says for whom......just curious....

I still haven't seen him on a witness list.

[Daffodil]

after seeing the links page, I closed the site, I don't want to give them any more traffic from me, to use for advertising opportunities.


MOO of LKL show, what I saw:

blah, blah, blah, mean bloggers...
blah, blah, blah, nobody knows what we have been through...
blah, blah, blah, gee Larry King is a lot tougher than he was last time, maybe we should have stayed home...
blah, blah, blah, we are different, we are the first people to be in this situation

OMG!!! You heard that too?

[Lapis]

It hasn't been stated what side Lenny will be called for....does anyone know? All NG says is that he will be called to take the stand, but she never says for whom......just curious....

IIRC he has been subpeonaed for depositions in the civil case and maybe the criminal one as well. Most of Lenny's information comes to him from others and he did not directly witness or hear alot of the things he talks about. I suspect he may not actually take the stand as there are others who will testify who actually witnessed or heard the things. JMO

[kitty1182]

I share your belief. No pompous, lying brat, not even my Daughter, will smuggly go to jail after lying about what happened to her own Daughter, call my house from jail asking for her boyfriends number, saying that calling was a HUGE WASTE, only to get sprung outta jail while my families name is all over the news, and come home to bake brownies while I sit back in the corner and do nothing.

If she didn't speak and make sense I would have been calling LE back saying they best take her into protective custody cause I'm about to knock the snot outta her nose.

I so agree with you....Had been my child, wouldn't have been a hair left on head until I heard the truth....:mad:

It's not like she is a child, she is a grown woman!

[Lavinia]

Thanks!

To take it a step further I also think this is one reason why George always appears so uncomfortable on these shows. George knows what's driving Cindy. He doesn't mind talking to the media on his terms and when he can determine when the interview will be terminated; but fears being on talk shows being asked straightforward questions he can't answer with any logical, sensible or credible response. Also the man is probably scared chitless wondering what will come out of Cindy's mouth, and if he will say the right thing to please her. He comes off like a little boy who is only attending the wedding and reception because his mama made him get dressed up and go with warnings for him to behave. Meanwhile he is miserable and fearful he won't say or do everything to suit mama Cindy and is afraid mama will be pissed at him.

Judging from his appearance he only tags along on these talk shows at Cindy's insistence, combined with the motivation of a free trip out of town, Conway as a backup to respond to the tough questions, and an opportunity to promote his new 'job'.

Boy this is a great post N2N and ITA! He's scared to death he will say the wrong thing in Cindy's eyes. If she were out for Casey's throat right now, he would be right with her. He's gonna go with that flow, baby. :rolleyes:

[steffaroob4]

the "we are role models" comment made me want to puke....:cursing:

OMG, ITA

I just can't believe that they think it is smart to keep talking, what a joke. GA sort of made me shake my head when he was saying he wanted to ask casey more questions when she was out on bond. Why would he think that was smart to say? duh...

[101Spots]

IIRC he has been subpeonaed for depositions in the civil case and maybe the criminal one as well. Most of Lenny's information comes to him from others and he did not directly witness or hear alot of the things he talks about. I suspect he may not actually take the stand as there are others who will testify who actually witnessed or heard the things. JMO

So you're saying we will only have Baez for comic relief during the trial?

Maybe Lenny can sit outside under the TTV reporters tent on commentate on each day's proceedings.

[Lapis]

So you're saying we will only have Baez for comic relief during the trial?

Maybe Lenny can sit outside under the TTV reporters tent on commentate on each day's proceedings.

I'm sure NG will continue to have Lenny on if no one else. Unfortunately, we may not even have JB to provide entertainment shortly. JMO

[jamma6]

I lurk here alot and rarely post. I am behind in my reading so if this has been asked I am sorry. Does anyone know more about the diary they said they have in their possesion? I thought it was determined that pages were torn out so what Casey had written was not from 2005.Can anyone update me on this? Thanks!:confused:

[Barbara fl.]

DCF worker depo with Baez. Sorry if this a repeat.

"Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy."

http://www.wftv.com/news/19455990/detail.html

Shouldn't be hard to figure out who this supposed father is with this information. The Anthonys have to know where this trust fund was and who started it. Unleash the detectives and let's find out who this father is or was. I do not believe he is dead. How about finding the family in Italy and get some DNA. Maybe LE already knows but I would think that it should have come out in the discovery by now. Who is in charge of the so called trust and what has happened to it now that Caylee is deceased?

We all know the answers to this....it's all a lie.....

[Lavinia]

That's another point. George had nerve speaking for LE when he said most of them do NOT believe in the dealth penalty. I'd like to see his link for that !

All the ones I ever knew were a little scarily pro-DP, lol. :scared: I don't know if I would make it under some of their guidelines, lol. (Am I right admajor?) :wink:

[steffaroob4]

OMG!!! You heard that too?

I swear I saw CA scream and yell inside, it looked like she was holding back some fighting words a few times, that is just a feeling I got from her. It was that look she would get with the Morgan depos, just before she would say something mean.

[101Spots]

I'm sure NG will continue to have Lenny on if no one else. Unfortunately, we may not even have JB to provide entertainment shortly. JMO


:scared: Say it ain't so, Joe!! ...er, Lapis. No Baez???? <thud>

Seriously, what do you think is going to happen with the DP attorney thing?

[Lavinia]

So you're saying we will only have Baez for comic relief during the trial?

Maybe Lenny can sit outside under the TTV reporters tent on commentate on each day's proceedings.

Maybe when Baez gets booted we can take up a collection and have him go to work for US as the court common-tater on this case? We can laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

[avalonfox]

I watched the Anthony's on the Larry King Show. The main thing that jumped out at me when it was over...was what was very obviously NOT asked.
I can only assume that Larry was not allowed to ask...."Do you still believe there is a Zanny person out there?".....and "Do you believe Casey received a call from Caylee on July 15th?"

These questions must not have been allowed.:mad:

[Lavinia]

We all know the answers to this....it's all a lie.....

Indubitably!