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desmom
05-13-2009, 06:43 AM
Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:


Caylee's Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/gb2/default.aspx?bookid=8937948524009

:rose:

Caylee's Law

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/caylees-law--a-law-to-protect-children?This%20is%20from%20your%20b


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desmom
05-13-2009, 06:45 AM
Nancy Grace Aired May 12, 2009
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html

Terence Lenamon, Former Attorney for Casey Anthony: Well, Nancy, I was brought in originally to try to get the state not to seek the death penalty, which I put a comprehensive package together. And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be. Nevertheless, I withdrew from the case.

Of course, they found the body after that, and you know, and you know, I guess within the last couple of weeks, they decided to go after the death penalty again. Mr. Baez actually called me and we spoke, but he`s decided to go with somebody else, I guess.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 06:57 AM
Nancy Grace Aired May 12, 2009
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html

Terence Lenamon, Former Attorney for Casey Anthony: Well, Nancy, I was brought in originally to try to get the state not to seek the death penalty, which I put a comprehensive package together. And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be. Nevertheless, I withdrew from the case.

Of course, they found the body after that, and you know, and you know, I guess within the last couple of weeks, they decided to go after the death penalty again. Mr. Baez actually called me and we spoke, but he`s decided to go with somebody else, I guess.

Wow another one bites the dust.

Scampi
05-13-2009, 06:59 AM
Good morning everyone. Thanks for those links Des. I brought over Denjen's post from last night with the new LKL article and link:

denjet
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 417

Have you seen the new article of Larry King's?
LKL Web Exclusive: Anthonys Respond to Critics
I left the first comment ...

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/#comment-155881

I just posted a comment and did it feel good to vent a bit to the nauseating anthony response.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 06:59 AM
Morning everyone..thanks Des for the new thread...thanks for the link to NG I watched it and thought he said that but never remembered him saying that he and JB did not agree on the way they should have approached the DP which as we know this DP lawyer wanted to go with mentally ill of course..but instead JB wanted to go with a accident which makes no since to me since the Nanny did it..yeah okey dokey...:rolleyes:

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 07:00 AM
Good morning everyone. Thanks for those links Des. I brought over Denjen's post from last night with the new LKL article and link:

denjet
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 417

Have you seen the new article of Larry King's?
LKL Web Exclusive: Anthonys Respond to Critics
I left the first comment ...

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/#comment-155881

I just posted a comment and did it feel good to vent a bit to the nauseating anthony response.

LOL yeah seen it and made sure I got my 2 cents in wont matter but made me feel a little better....:biggrin:

Myka
05-13-2009, 07:02 AM
Nancy Grace Aired May 12, 2009
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html

Terence Lenamon, Former Attorney for Casey Anthony: Well, Nancy, I was brought in originally to try to get the state not to seek the death penalty, which I put a comprehensive package together. And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be. Nevertheless, I withdrew from the case.

Of course, they found the body after that, and you know, and you know, I guess within the last couple of weeks, they decided to go after the death penalty again. Mr. Baez actually called me and we spoke, but he`s decided to go with somebody else, I guess.

signifcant disagreements.........hummmmm. I would love to know what those were :confused:

Scampi
05-13-2009, 07:06 AM
"And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be."

Very interesting that Lenamon would publicize his significant disagreements with baez, I bet they were doozies!!!

It's going to be very interesting to learn who baez chose to be the DPQ attorney, if the criteria is doing things his way and sticking to the unbelievable zanny the nanny did it BS.

I see good times ahead for us....... :thumbup:

Scampi
05-13-2009, 07:07 AM
LOL yeah seen it and made sure I got my 2 cents in wont matter but made me feel a little better....:biggrin:

Oh, let me run over and look at your post Mom............................:chicken:

desmom
05-13-2009, 07:08 AM
Brought over from yesterday's thread:

I wonder what casey anthony is thinking right now since she has a little taste of what the rest of her entire life is going to be like.

She is probably thinking she is going to be pizzed if JB does not get her out of this. :tonguewag:

*MoonRider*
05-13-2009, 07:08 AM
Good Morning. It looks like the Anthony show will be on tonight. Here's some twitters from Michelle Bart
helpingheroesprWatch singer Jon Wynock Wednesday on Larry King Live and then catch him on Sunday at National Vigil For Hope - New Hampshire site http://twitter.com/helpingheroespr
Vigil for Hope (reeks of KFN) vigilforhopeFor Release: Finger printing, digital photos, entertainment, speakers, awareness, prayers this Sunday http://twitter.com/vigilforhope

desmom
05-13-2009, 07:11 AM
"And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be."

Very interesting that Lenamon would publicize his significant disagreements with baez, I bet they were doozies!!!

It's going to be very interesting to learn who baez chose to be the DPQ attorney, if the criteria is doing things his way and sticking to the unbelievable zanny the nanny did it BS.

I see good times ahead for us....... :thumbup:


I understand an attorney cannot discuss their clients and their cases.

Can attorneys talk about other attorneys? IOW, if a DP qualified attorney called Lenamon and asked about his experiences with JB, could Lenamon share?

TIA

Gilly
05-13-2009, 07:12 AM
Good morning everyone.

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

~Dramatica~
05-13-2009, 07:15 AM
Good Morning. It looks like the Anthony show will be on tonight. Here's some twitters from Michelle Bart
helpingheroesprWatch singer Jon Wynock Wednesday on Larry King Live and then catch him on Sunday at National Vigil For Hope - New Hampshire site http://twitter.com/helpingheroespr
Vigil for Hope (reeks of KFN) vigilforhopeFor Release: Finger printing, digital photos, entertainment, speakers, awareness, prayers this Sunday http://twitter.com/vigilforhope

Those twitters give me shivers :eek: These vile people just won't go away. The Jon Wynock song that Cindy wrote hurts my ears. jmho

Scampi
05-13-2009, 07:16 AM
I understand an attorney cannot discuss their clients and their cases.

Can attorneys talk about other attorneys? IOW, if a DP qualified attorney called Lenamon and asked about his experiences with JB, could Lenamon share?

TIA

In my experience with trials it is very rare to hear one defense attorney criticize another one. This case has seen many defense attorneys Hammer baez on his methods. To actually see Lenamon do it on national TV is amazing to me.

I think if the chosen DPQ lawyer called Lenamon for advice he'd dish on baez in a New York minute.

*MoonRider*
05-13-2009, 07:21 AM
Good morning everyone.

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/
I'm sure it's a waste of time because Larry King does not have the nerve to ask them a tough question. It looks like he's giving them a national platform to solicit donations.

desmom
05-13-2009, 07:23 AM
In my experience with trials it is very rare to hear one defense attorney criticize another one. This case has seen many defense attorneys Hammer baez on his methods. To actually see Lenamon do it on national TV is amazing to me.

I think if the chosen DPQ lawyer called Lenamon for advice he'd dish on baez in a New York minute.

Thanks Scampi.

IMO, Lenamon's "..I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be...." speaks volumes about what any DPQ attorney will have to deal with if they were decide to join the A Team.

jmo

*MoonRider*
05-13-2009, 07:28 AM
Here's Caylee's myspace page. http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=122459029&blogId=488826384
Watch George and Cindy on Larry King Live

Special performance by
Jonathan Wynock "Caylee's Song"

AMS
05-13-2009, 07:49 AM
Good morning everyone. Thanks for those links Des. I brought over Denjen's post from last night with the new LKL article and link:

denjet
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 417

Have you seen the new article of Larry King's?
LKL Web Exclusive: Anthonys Respond to Critics
I left the first comment ...

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/#comment-155881

I just posted a comment and did it feel good to vent a bit to the nauseating anthony response.


Oh fgs. I had not seen this. Thanks for the link Scampi. Once again, they miss the entire point of why people are angry.

imo

jammies
05-13-2009, 07:51 AM
Brought over from yesterday's thread:



She is probably thinking she is going to be pizzed if JB does not get her out of this. :tonguewag:


PO'd is the only emotion they have in their family. That is all we've ever seen from them. Hateful.

AMS
05-13-2009, 07:53 AM
Nancy Grace Aired May 12, 2009
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html

Terence Lenamon, Former Attorney for Casey Anthony: Well, Nancy, I was brought in originally to try to get the state not to seek the death penalty, which I put a comprehensive package together. And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be. Nevertheless, I withdrew from the case.

Of course, they found the body after that, and you know, and you know, I guess within the last couple of weeks, they decided to go after the death penalty again. Mr. Baez actually called me and we spoke, but he`s decided to go with somebody else, I guess.

Bolding is mine. The "I guess" makes me wonder if he really knows if Baez has another DP attorney. I still have a hunch Baez may not have one lined up, especially if they have to take direction from Baez. imo

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Oh fgs. I had not seen this. Thanks for the link Scampi. Once again, they miss the entire point of why people are angry.

imo

I just read the LKL link.. Here we go, now they were "Ugly Coping" too, right? But hey..the Foundation Fraud is going to make it all better..

*MoonRider*
05-13-2009, 07:59 AM
Bolding is mine. The "I guess" makes me wonder if he really knows if Baez has another DP attorney. I still have a hunch Baez may not have one lined up, especially if they have to take direction from Baez. imo

I agree that Jose doesn't have one lined up or he would have had a presser announcing it. A DPQ attorney will not take direction from an inexperienced attorney with a big ego. jmo

bluwaters
05-13-2009, 08:02 AM
Here's how it seems to me.

If accused of a heinous murder and facing the DP in FL, Lenamon is an excellent choice to save your sorry life.
He defends the worst of the worst, and he doesn't try to get them off or proclaim their innocence.
When Lenamon comes on board, it is about avoiding the needle.

My guess is that Lenamon won't drink the Casey is innocent kool-aid.
Lenamon knows the stakes in this game and he has clients sitting on death row.
To him, winning a case has nothing to do with acquittal and everything to do with getting LWOP.

Baez is gambling with Casey's life and he doesn't care.

Since DP convictions receive automatic appeals, Lenamon will probably come in on appeal, after Baez is long gone and the fight is on to save Casey's life.

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:04 AM
I just read the LKL link.. Here we go, now they were "Ugly Coping" too, right? But hey..the Foundation Fraud is going to make it all better..


They are just doing what they know. Stealing from the public like their daughter did from them. Avoiding work in bogus get rich quick schemes. Living off others and lying about it. Life as usual in the A compound. Nothing to see here.....move along.

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:11 AM
Good morning, everyone! :seeya:

I'm bringing this post over from y-day. If you haven't seen this video tribute of Caylee, then you must watch it now. It is fabulously done and a real tear-jerker. What a pig and monster Casey is for taking away such a beautiful little life.

It's gone now. A mod must've pulled it. OMG, it was heartbreaking. The best tribute I've seen. I'll see if I can find it on youtube.

Edited to add: found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdMz8cW_H8

Get some Kleenex. Seriously.

Scampi
05-13-2009, 08:11 AM
I agree that Jose doesn't have one lined up or he would have had a presser announcing it. A DPQ attorney will not take direction from an inexperienced attorney with a big ego. jmo

IIRC, there are no do-overs with the depositions that baez has already conducted. If this is true, I think the State should file a motion to halt any further depositions until baez has demonstrated he actually has a DPQ lawyer onboard this case.

chrissybot
05-13-2009, 08:13 AM
Morning everyone..thanks Des for the new thread...thanks for the link to NG I watched it and thought he said that but never remembered him saying that he and JB did not agree on the way they should have approached the DP which as we know this DP lawyer wanted to go with mentally ill of course..but instead JB wanted to go with a accident which makes no since to me since the Nanny did it..yeah okey dokey...:rolleyes:
JB can WISH all he wants. "Momma" put duct tape across that babies mouth & never reported her missing. sorry JB. NO ACCIDENT!

cassidy
05-13-2009, 08:16 AM
Baez is gambling with Casey's life and he doesn't care.




***snipped***
Casey is gambling right along side him. Uninformed ( IMO) but gambling never-the-less.

courtsinsession
05-13-2009, 08:17 AM
Here's how it seems to me.

If accused of a heinous murder and facing the DP in FL, Lenamon is an excellent choice to save your sorry life.
He defends the worst of the worst, and he doesn't try to get them off or proclaim their innocence.
When Lenamon comes on board, it is about avoiding the needle.

My guess is that Lenamon won't drink the Casey is innocent kool-aid.
Lenamon knows the stakes in this game and he has clients sitting on death row.
To him, winning a case has nothing to do with acquittal and everything to do with getting LWOP.

Baez is gambling with Casey's life and he doesn't care.

Since DP convictions receive automatic appeals, Lenamon will probably come in on appeal, after Baez is long gone and the fight is on to save Casey's life.

Here lies the irony of it all; he, like Casey is narcissitic and ego driven; so everything is about him and because of this he won't do what is best for his client, he will do what gets him , in his mind, the greatest glory, the greatest exposure, and of course is the riskiest for his client. frankly, they deserve each other, don't ya think?

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:18 AM
IIRC, there are no do-overs with the depositions that baez has already conducted. If this is true, I think the State should file a motion to halt any further depositions until baez has demonstrated he actually has a DPQ lawyer onboard this case.


I'm still confused about the do-overs. Seems the lawyers and judge (on NG) all had different opinions on that and it never was clear to me what they settled on. They were also arguing over having a DP lawyer which confused me as well.

It all seems clear as mud to me!! :laugh:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 08:18 AM
They are just doing what they know. Stealing from the public like their daughter did from them. Avoiding work in bogus get rich quick schemes. Living off others and lying about it. Life as usual in the A compound. Nothing to see here.....move along.

This is how I see it too Jammies.

adair
05-13-2009, 08:18 AM
Good Morning Everyone!!!

I am off today! Yippy!!! And its gonna rain (a reason to do some house work and hang with your guys!!! Opposed to mowing.)

Well I just left my message at the blog, [I]waiting approval[I].

Any guess who the new DQA (makes me think of dairy queen and a banana split) ..... might be?

Anyone catch NG last night she covered an interview that was done by (someone will know). It was a lady who observed how OC acted after she found out the DP was back on the table, she had to be put into restraints. When i first started to listen i thought it was when they found Caylee......nope, once again it was all about Casey. Screaming I am so pizzed...etc.

jmo

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:18 AM
Good morning everyone. Thanks for those links Des. I brought over Denjen's post from last night with the new LKL article and link:

denjet
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 417

Have you seen the new article of Larry King's?
LKL Web Exclusive: Anthonys Respond to Critics
I left the first comment ...

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/#comment-155881

I just posted a comment and did it feel good to vent a bit to the nauseating anthony response.

Thanks so much for bringing this link over here. I just love reading all the comments over there. They are all so wonderful, but a definite must read is a comment by "Dogs Rule". The post is at the beginning of the comments section and it is dated May 12th at 11:00 p.m. He/she pretty much sums up the case and all of George and Cindy's actions. Like I said, it is a must read!:thumbup:

Part of me thinks that the LKL show is just loving all of this attention they are getting.:sneaky: I don't think they even care that it is so negative. When was the last time that people were talking about his show and giving it so much attention? I hope this doesn't mean that The Anthony's are going to often be guests on his show now.

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:19 AM
Here lies the irony of it all; he, like Casey is narcissitic and ego driven; so everything is about him and because of this he won't do what is best for his client, he will do what gets him , in his mind, the greatest glory, the greatest exposure, and of course is the riskiest for his client. frankly, they deserve each other, don't ya think?


Absolutely!! They were drawn together like magnets.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 08:21 AM
Question
Does anyone know is LKL really LIVE? or do they tape the show. TIA if anyone knows

cassidy
05-13-2009, 08:24 AM
Good morning, everyone! :seeya:

I'm bringing this post over from y-day. If you haven't seen this video tribute of Caylee, then you must watch it now. It is fabulously done and a real tear-jerker. What a pig and monster Casey is for taking away such a beautiful little life.

WOW That is the best one I've seen. Too bad THAT can't be played for the jury someday :(

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 08:25 AM
Thanks so much for bringing this link over here. I just love reading all the comments over there. They are all so wonderful, but a definite must read is a comment by "Dogs Rule". The post is at the beginning of the comments section and it is dated May 12th at 11:00 p.m. He/she pretty much sums up the case and all of George and Cindy's actions. Like I said, it is a must read!:thumbup:

Part of me thinks that the LKL show is just loving all of this attention they are getting.:sneaky: I don't think they even care that it is so negative. When was the last time that people were talking about his show and giving it so much attention? I hope this doesn't mean that The Anthony's are going to often be guests on his show now.

Larry may like it but the way I see it posting a comment does not help his ratings..cause he lost me as a viewer and also 2 family members have dropped sprint not that it will hurt them but maybe next time these shows will listen to their faithful viewers..

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:27 AM
"And in December, I withdrew from the case. Prior to me withdrawing, I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be."

Very interesting that Lenamon would publicize his significant disagreements with baez, I bet they were doozies!!!

It's going to be very interesting to learn who baez chose to be the DPQ attorney, if the criteria is doing things his way and sticking to the unbelievable zanny the nanny did it BS.

I see good times ahead for us....... :thumbup:

Bolding mine....

Yes, you are right, that is very interesting that he would say that on national TV. Perhaps Lenamon is trying to publicly distance himself from JB because he knows just what a complete and total spectacle he is going to make of this case once it goes to trial? As if it isn't enough of a spectacle already.:sneaky:

I am anxious to see who the DPQ attorney is as well. Whoever it is has to be willing to stake their reputation on the thoughts, words, and actions of JB because it seems like Casey wants him to be the one to run the show. So even if a new attorney comes in and is officially declared 1st chair, I still think that JB will be in charge of the controls of this runaway train.

Scampi
05-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Question
Does anyone know is LKL really LIVE? or do they tape the show. TIA if anyone knows

I do think it is LIVE, but has a delay feature in case there is an unfortunate caller question. The reason I think so is that Larry has been known to interrupt the show with breaking news, the death of Audrey Hepburn being one of those times....... :sad:

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Thanks so much for bringing this link over here. I just love reading all the comments over there. They are all so wonderful, but a definite must read is a comment by "Dogs Rule". The post is at the beginning of the comments section and it is dated May 12th at 11:00 p.m. He/she pretty much sums up the case and all of George and Cindy's actions. Like I said, it is a must read!:thumbup:

Part of me thinks that the LKL show is just loving all of this attention they are getting.:sneaky: I don't think they even care that it is so negative. When was the last time that people were talking about his show and giving it so much attention? I hope this doesn't mean that The Anthony's are going to often be guests on his show now.



Exactly, Dells. CNN's ratings are tanking. HLN is gaining ground and FOX is #1.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 08:29 AM
WOW That is the best one I've seen. Too bad THAT can't be played for the jury someday :(

I agree with Dell and you it sure is one to read..I kinda got a kick out of denjets comment shocked they allowed that one but THANKS denjet for the nice TV guide:thumbsup:

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:32 AM
I'm sure it's a waste of time because Larry King does not have the nerve to ask them a tough question. It looks like he's giving them a national platform to solicit donations.

I so agree! I also think, especially since The Anthony's are just going to be on a segment of the show (not the whole entire show), that they probably will only talk about their foundation. I bet they probably went on the show w/the stipulation that any questions about Casey or her upcoming trial can't be asked. Of course I am sure The Anthony's will plug what a martyr and saint Casey is, you know, how she is mother of the year and the best daughter that any parents could ever ask for.:rolleyes:

AMS
05-13-2009, 08:33 AM
Thanks so much for bringing this link over here. I just love reading all the comments over there. They are all so wonderful, but a definite must read is a comment by "Dogs Rule". The post is at the beginning of the comments section and it is dated May 12th at 11:00 p.m. He/she pretty much sums up the case and all of George and Cindy's actions. Like I said, it is a must read!:thumbup:

Part of me thinks that the LKL show is just loving all of this attention they are getting.:sneaky: I don't think they even care that it is so negative. When was the last time that people were talking about his show and giving it so much attention? I hope this doesn't mean that The Anthony's are going to often be guests on his show now.

Dells - the post from "Dogs Rule" was fabulous. Thanks for pointing it out.

imo

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 08:35 AM
I do think it is LIVE, but has a delay feature in case there is an unfortunate caller question. The reason I think so is that Larry has been known to interrupt the show with breaking news, the death of Audrey Hepburn being one of those times....... :sad:

Thank you Scampi for replying to me..boy would I love to be a caller never thought of that sure they do cause no telling what would be said..I know my questions would never be answered..I have a feeling we can about guess what they will talk about..
the new foundation scam, how they feel about all the negative comments, it will be a poor us show..I will not be watching he will not get my ratings...BTW I thought your comment was a great one and so true..:thumbup:

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:42 AM
Dells - the post from "Dogs Rule" was fabulous. Thanks for pointing it out.

imo



'what's in that bottle you are always swigging on?' Dog might be on to something! :lol:

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 08:42 AM
I so agree! I also think, especially since The Anthony's are just going to be on a segment of the show (not the whole entire show), that they probably will only talk about their foundation. I bet they probably went on the show w/the stipulation that any questions about Casey or her upcoming trial can't be asked. Of course I am sure The Anthony's will plug what a martyr and saint Casey is, you know, how she is mother of the year and the best daughter that any parents could ever ask for.:rolleyes:

oh I have no doubt they have limited what they will answer CA would never allow anyone to be the boss even LK.. remember she even cancelled on OPRAH..yeah OK whatever ..I really hope anyone who donates any money to them would look into what is all over the place but as we know there are some who are stupid enough to pay their bills..NOT ME:thumbdown:..and if they don't get enough funds they will just sell more of Caylee's pics or videos..

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:43 AM
Here's how it seems to me.

If accused of a heinous murder and facing the DP in FL, Lenamon is an excellent choice to save your sorry life.
He defends the worst of the worst, and he doesn't try to get them off or proclaim their innocence.
When Lenamon comes on board, it is about avoiding the needle.

My guess is that Lenamon won't drink the Casey is innocent kool-aid.
Lenamon knows the stakes in this game and he has clients sitting on death row.
To him, winning a case has nothing to do with acquittal and everything to do with getting LWOP.

Baez is gambling with Casey's life and he doesn't care.

Since DP convictions receive automatic appeals, Lenamon will probably come in on appeal, after Baez is long gone and the fight is on to save Casey's life.

Excellent, excellent post!! This is exactly what I was thinking as well, but was unable to put into words! I agree that JB is taking a gamble on Casey's life because just think about how much that would bolster his career if he got her acquitted? He doesn't care about her and her best interests, he only cares about himself and his new career as a high profile defense attorney.

I truly think from the beginning that JB should have approached this case w/trying to get the best possible deal for Casey. There simply is no way that Casey was ever getting out of this w/out some sort of conviction and prison time. JB really blew it because before Caylee's body was found they had the most bargaining power. Now the only thing they have to bargain is to take the DP off the table and agree to LWOP. Either way, Casey's life as she knew it is over. She'll either be in jail the rest of her life, or she will be put to death. If JB would have tried to get a plea for her, she may have still had to serve significant jail time, but at least she could maybe look forward to one day walking out of prison. Well, too bad, Casey is sticking to her guns and sticking w/JB so in the end she will get exactly what she deserves.:thumbup:

trich
05-13-2009, 08:46 AM
Morning everyone..thanks Des for the new thread...thanks for the link to NG I watched it and thought he said that but never remembered him saying that he and JB did not agree on the way they should have approached the DP which as we know this DP lawyer wanted to go with mentally ill of course..but instead JB wanted to go with a accident which makes no since to me since the Nanny did it..yeah okey dokey...:rolleyes:

Why not go with THE TRUTH!
Sounds like the defense is trying to come up with a reason
for Casey killing Caylee.
I thought lawyers were not suppose to lie or condone lies .
If these 2 discussed mentally ill opposed to accident.....well again
what is the truth.
Is that concept so hard to grasp?

jammies
05-13-2009, 08:48 AM
Another excellent post over on LKL.

Thinkaboutthis May 13th, 2009 8:30 am ET

Dells
05-13-2009, 08:49 AM
Here lies the irony of it all; he, like Casey is narcissitic and ego driven; so everything is about him and because of this he won't do what is best for his client, he will do what gets him , in his mind, the greatest glory, the greatest exposure, and of course is the riskiest for his client. frankly, they deserve each other, don't ya think?

I so agree w/you. I think JB is looking out for himself and his own best interests and that is it. He doesn't care about Casey at all except in how her case can help him and help him launch his career as a high profile defense attorney. I find it truly disturbing. I guess Casey is just glad that someone is willing to try to get her off the 1st degree murder charge scott-free, that she either doesn't care or can't see how self centered driven all of JB's actions have been on her case.

Zeus
05-13-2009, 08:53 AM
Another excellent post over on LKL.

Thinkaboutthis May 13th, 2009 8:30 am ET

I couldn't resist leaving a little post over on LKL. (Probably won't be there for too long :tongueside:)

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 08:54 AM
Here's Caylee's myspace page. http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=122459029&blogId=488826384
Watch George and Cindy on Larry King Live

Special performance by
Jonathan Wynock "Caylee's Song"

please tell me Jonathan Wynock is not going to use Caylee's Song as a jump off point for his new career as a singer!! Are Geo/Cindy going to be his agents? Are they going to try to make money off this too? Is Cindy going to take a composing credit for the song? Performing that song at the memorial is one thing, traveling the talk show circuit with the Anthony's and performing it as background music is another!

jakee
05-13-2009, 09:01 AM
Dells - the post from "Dogs Rule" was fabulous. Thanks for pointing it out.

imo

Good morning all,

That post was really really good. I think I will read it again.

I won't be watching Larry tonight even though I am curious. My favorite program LOST is on tonight and I would rather watch that fantasy, far fetched show than what the Anthony's come up with.

crimeq
05-13-2009, 09:02 AM
If it's true that Casey was strapped down and restrained in jail the day she heard the death penalty was back on the table, that's the first report we've had of any emotion at all from her. She seems to be very good at being or appearing nonchalant, acting like this isn't about her at all -- and I do believe she thinks/thought that Baez was really going to get her off.

So it got to her. If she believes Baez will get her off, I wondered why, and I think it's because she has such a recent and up-close-and-personal experience with death and what it means, that she was finally able to apply it to herself.

How she got through dealing with Caylee's little decomposing body, I don't know, but it wouldn't be a far reach for her to have that recent memory and apply it to her own existence.

Most of us can't really envision our own death, not being here. Perhaps Casey truly can, now that she's seen it up close, personal, what happens when life is gone from the body.

I hope she has ceaseless nightmares about what she did to little Caylee. Sadly, I think she's just personalized, made it about "her", and she's fearful of the end in store for her.

cassidy
05-13-2009, 09:03 AM
please tell me Jonathan Wynock is not going to use Caylee's Song as a jump off point for his new career as a singer!! Are Geo/Cindy going to be his agents? Are they going to try to make money off this too? Is Cindy going to take a composing credit for the song? Performing that song at the memorial is one thing, traveling the talk show circuit with the Anthony's and performing it as background music is another!


Of course they will all try to capitalized on the song. What good would it be if they didn't profit from it?

JMO

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:05 AM
Dells - the post from "Dogs Rule" was fabulous. Thanks for pointing it out.

imo

It is a long post/comment, but definitely a must read!:thumbup:

Scampi
05-13-2009, 09:08 AM
If it's true that Casey was strapped down and restrained in jail the day she heard the death penalty was back on the table, that's the first report we've had of any emotion at all from her. She seems to be very good at being or appearing nonchalant, acting like this isn't about her at all -- and I do believe she thinks/thought that Baez was really going to get her off.

So it got to her. If she believes Baez will get her off, I wondered why, and I think it's because she has such a recent and up-close-and-personal experience with death and what it means, that she was finally able to apply it to herself.

How she got through dealing with Caylee's little decomposing body, I don't know, but it wouldn't be a far reach for her to have that recent memory and apply it to her own existence.

Most of us can't really envision our own death, not being here. Perhaps Casey truly can, now that she's seen it up close, personal, what happens when life is gone from the body.

I hope she has ceaseless nightmares about what she did to little Caylee. Sadly, I think she's just personalized, made it about "her", and she's fearful of the end in store for her.


Interesting analysis Crimie. I wonder what the odious creature was actually "pissed" about tho. Could it have been because her confidants failed to follow her "clues" about where the remains were and did not move or destroy them in time? Or, that she learned that her attorney was wrong when he arrogantly promised her the State had no evidence and would never request the DP in her case?

At first I discounted the inmates account, but after listening to her on NG last night and hearing more details, I think she did witness the OC's little hissy fit.

Neffy
05-13-2009, 09:12 AM
please tell me Jonathan Wynock is not going to use Caylee's Song as a jump off point for his new career as a singer!! Are Geo/Cindy going to be his agents? Are they going to try to make money off this too? Is Cindy going to take a composing credit for the song? Performing that song at the memorial is one thing, traveling the talk show circuit with the Anthony's and performing it as background music is another!


These people are in total denial on what the country has watched unfold.

A tribute to a child whose mother sits in jail for her murder and double bagging her in a garbage bag and tossing her in the woods.

Why in the world do these people want to flaunt this?

I don't care what mundane words he uses. That is the story behind it.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:12 AM
Did anyone take the pol on LKL? 97percent say shes going to be convicted:thumbsup:

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:13 AM
Another excellent post over on LKL.

Thinkaboutthis May 13th, 2009 8:30 am ET

Thanks so much for pointing this post out to us. :seeya: I agree it was a really good comment and another must read!

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:14 AM
Of course they will all try to capitalized on the song. What good would it be if they didn't profit from it?

JMO

So true! It's okay from them to profit off of Caylee's murder, they just don't want anyone else to.:sneaky:

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:16 AM
:laugh:OMG these questions are killing me..

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 09:16 AM
So true! It's okay from them to profit off of Caylee's murder, they just don't want anyone else to.:sneaky:

I guess you all are correct after the must be some good to come from Caylee's death, I guess for the Anthony's never having to work again is it.

ellegna
05-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Thanks Scampi.

IMO, Lenamon's "..I had some significant disagreements with Mr. Baez about what I believed the approach to the case should be...." speaks volumes about what any DPQ attorney will have to deal with if they were decide to join the A Team.

jmo

Good morning all

One of his aired disagreements with Baez threw me for a loop.

GRACE: Well, that shows how you feel about the life of a 2-year-old little girl. But you know what? That`s your business.

I want to go back to Lenamon. Terrence Lenamon has tried many, many death penalty cases. He was onto tot mom`s case until apparently he and the lead attorney, dare I say it, Jose Baez, have had a split of opinion.

Was it over your wise counsel that they use a mental health defense, Mr. Lenamon?

TERENCE LENAMON, FMR. ATTORNEY FOR CASEY ANTHONY, ARGUED AGAINST D.P. FOR TOT MOM: Well, I mean, I think you can look back on some of the conversations we had prior to this and you can just kind of take the next step and see that we had a difference in what I believed should have been the approach, which is I think mental health-related. And just looking at the public information that`s out there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Did anyone take the pol on LKL? 97percent say shes going to be convicted:thumbsup:

no have not seen it well that was the best news I have heard so far:thumbsup:

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:20 AM
Interesting analysis Crimie. I wonder what the odious creature was actually "pissed" about tho. Could it have been because her confidants failed to follow her "clues" about where the remains were and did not move or destroy them in time? Or, that she learned that her attorney was wrong when he arrogantly promised her the State had no evidence and would never request the DP in her case?

At first I discounted the inmates account, but after listening to her on NG last night and hearing more details, I think she did witness the OC's little hissy fit.

I agree w/you. No matter what anybody says, I find her comments to have credibility.

I think Casey was probably pizzed because all along her "Dream Team" was probably promising her and almost guaranteeing her that they would get her off this murder charge scott-free. I don't think that Casey thought in a millions years the DP would be back on the table. I am sure that JB had some 'splainin to do to her after the announcement was made and that is probably where he came up w/his "dark forces are out to get her" line. It helped him reiterate his it's "us against the world" mentality that he has used in his approach to this case.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:21 AM
Good morning all

One of his aired disagreements with Baez threw me for a loop.

GRACE: Well, that shows how you feel about the life of a 2-year-old little girl. But you know what? That`s your business.

I want to go back to Lenamon. Terrence Lenamon has tried many, many death penalty cases. He was onto tot mom`s case until apparently he and the lead attorney, dare I say it, Jose Baez, have had a split of opinion.

Was it over your wise counsel that they use a mental health defense, Mr. Lenamon?

TERENCE LENAMON, FMR. ATTORNEY FOR CASEY ANTHONY, ARGUED AGAINST D.P. FOR TOT MOM: Well, I mean, I think you can look back on some of the conversations we had prior to this and you can just kind of take the next step and see that we had a difference in what I believed should have been the approach, which is I think mental health-related. And just looking at the public information that`s out there.


Well heck they ended up going with if she did kill Caylee it was a ACCIDENT ok..lol..I was shocked with what they did go with and did not use the mental defense..guess BOZO and KC messed up on this one..

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 09:22 AM
It is a long post/comment, but definitely a must read!:thumbup:

Oh yeah, it was good. ***** stars!!:thumbsup:

Tonight's show should be good. The viewers who call in will be screened and the ones who get through, even if they take the soft approach to asking a question of an Anthony, will have them squirming, a bit. Conway will be answering for them, I bet.

ellegna
05-13-2009, 09:24 AM
Interesting analysis Crimie. I wonder what the odious creature was actually "pissed" about tho. Could it have been because her confidants failed to follow her "clues" about where the remains were and did not move or destroy them in time? Or, that she learned that her attorney was wrong when he arrogantly promised her the State had no evidence and would never request the DP in her case?

At first I discounted the inmates account, but after listening to her on NG last night and hearing more details, I think she did witness the OC's little hissy fit.

Morning Scampi

I believe she was pissed at JB. :laugh:

AMS
05-13-2009, 09:25 AM
Oh yeah, it was good. ***** stars!!:thumbsup:

Tonight's show should be good. The viewers who call in will be screened and the ones who get through, even if they take the soft approach to asking a question of an Anthony, will have them squirming, a bit. Conway will be answering for them, I bet.

I bet he doesn't take phone calls. They will consider it too risky. After all, a "crazy blogger" could call. :wink:

I don't think he took calls for Elizabeth Edwards last night.

imo

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 09:27 AM
Did anyone take the pol on LKL? 97percent say shes going to be convicted:thumbsup:

that's about right only her parents and Baez think she will get off.

AMS
05-13-2009, 09:28 AM
Attorney Left Defense Because He Disagreed With Baez's Strategy

http://www.wftv.com/news/19448158/detail.html

Pat
05-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Pat in FL left a question (actually 3) for Larry to ask:

Good evening, Cindy and George! Within hours of our last interview, Caylee's remains were discovered.

While en route back to Orlando, you hired Mr. Conway to request immunity from authorities on your behalf.

1. Did you get it?

2. If so, is it limited immunity or full immunity?

3. When do you anticipate you will be arrested by the State of Florida on charges of obstruction of justice, hindering an official investigation and tampering with evidence?

What are the chances Larry will ask? :tonguewag:

(Notice I tucked the word "remains" in there for George. It will give him an opportunity to perform again. :laugh:)

crimeq
05-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Interesting analysis Crimie. I wonder what the odious creature was actually "pissed" about tho. Could it have been because her confidants failed to follow her "clues" about where the remains were and did not move or destroy them in time? Or, that she learned that her attorney was wrong when he arrogantly promised her the State had no evidence and would never request the DP in her case?

At first I discounted the inmates account, but after listening to her on NG last night and hearing more details, I think she did witness the OC's little hissy fit.

:seeya: Morning, Scamp! I think the inmate has credibility too. She was well-spoken and had congruity between what she was saying and how she was saying it.

The "pissed" comment is interesting--indeed, who would Casey be pissed at when she found out the death penalty was back on the table. If her family is complicit in this, they probably told her it would never get very far--they would take care of it (I can see George, former LE and Cindy, nurse, believing they could lie through this. And why not? So far, they've succeeded, basically). Baez and the dream team, telling her not to worry, that the state didn't have a case. The audacity of the state, threatening her with death.

"Pissed" is interesting vs. shocked, or sad, or afraid, but that whole family responds with aggression.

I do think the up-close-and-personal view of death and what happens to a body may be sinking in. With her narcissism, she would have a hard time dealing with applying that condition to herself.

She never thought it would get this far--her own thoughts, and reinforced by family and Baez, IMO.

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 09:32 AM
I bet he doesn't take phone calls. They will consider it too risky. After all, a "crazy blogger" could call. :wink:

I don't think he took calls for Elizabeth Edwards last night.

imo

once in a while he asks a tough question, I thought he pushed Elizabeth Edwards a bit last night. Especially regarding the possible effect on the country and the "party" if his "indiscretion" was revealed.

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 09:32 AM
Good morning all

One of his aired disagreements with Baez threw me for a loop.

GRACE: Well, that shows how you feel about the life of a 2-year-old little girl. But you know what? That`s your business.

I want to go back to Lenamon. Terrence Lenamon has tried many, many death penalty cases. He was onto tot mom`s case until apparently he and the lead attorney, dare I say it, Jose Baez, have had a split of opinion.

Was it over your wise counsel that they use a mental health defense, Mr. Lenamon?

TERENCE LENAMON, FMR. ATTORNEY FOR CASEY ANTHONY, ARGUED AGAINST D.P. FOR TOT MOM: Well, I mean, I think you can look back on some of the conversations we had prior to this and you can just kind of take the next step and see that we had a difference in what I believed should have been the approach, which is I think mental health-related. And just looking at the public information that`s out there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/12/ng.01.html


Lenamon, as a seasoned DP attorney knows, that if the state is seeking the DP, they have a pretty strong case for conviction. As an Attorney, the best job he can do for his client is to spare the needle and get LWOP for the client.

He knows it's near impossible to get Casey, or anyone else, off on an 'Insanity' defense. She knew what she was doing was wrong.

His best course of action, IMO, would have been in the penalty phase. He would have done his research and presented a whole host of mitigating factors hoping that a jury would agree with him and not give Casey death.

Bumbling Baez has big dreams of being this great Hispanic lawyer who gets his gal off. He doesn't want to hear anything else. There are no other options in his mind. And it doesn't matter if he's playing with Casey's life in the process. He's in it for himself.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:33 AM
that's about right only her parents and Baez think she will get off.

Now its 94 percent i guess the anthonyfamily and baez voted:biggrin:

Scampi
05-13-2009, 09:33 AM
I agree w/you. No matter what anybody says, I find her comments to have credibility.

I think Casey was probably pizzed because all along her "Dream Team" was probably promising her and almost guaranteeing her that they would get her off this murder charge scott-free. I don't think that Casey thought in a millions years the DP would be back on the table. I am sure that JB had some 'splainin to do to her after the announcement was made and that is probably where he came up w/his "dark forces are out to get her" line. It helped him reiterate his it's "us against the world" mentality that he has used in his approach to this case.

You're right Dells and his ridiculous claim that the only reason the States Attorney put the DP back in play was to "pressure casey anthony to make a deal."

Playing to the odious creature's stupid mentality of the entire world is out to get her based on no evidence of wrongdoing on her part.

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 09:34 AM
I bet he doesn't take phone calls. They will consider it too risky. After all, a "crazy blogger" could call. :wink:

I don't think he took calls for Elizabeth Edwards last night.

imo

Aw, shucks. No phone calls? Where is the fun in that?

You're right. It is risky.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:35 AM
He will softball them just wait and see.:sad:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 09:36 AM
Lenamon, as a seasoned DP attorney knows, that if the state is seeking the DP, they have a pretty strong case for conviction. As an Attorney, the best job he can do for his client is to spare the needle and get LWOP for the client.

He knows it's near impossible to get Casey, or anyone else, off on an 'Insanity' defense. She knew what she was doing was wrong.

His best course of action, IMO, would have been in the penalty phase. He would have done his research and presented a whole host of mitigating factors hoping that a jury would agree with him and not give Casey death.

Bumbling Baez has big dreams of being this great Hispanic lawyer who gets his gal off. He doesn't want to hear anything else. There are no other options in his mind. And it doesn't matter if he's playing with Casey's life in the process. He's in it for himself.


does any one know if Lenamon met with Casey or just wrote his brief based on what he knew about the case from Baez and the newspapers?

StickyBeak
05-13-2009, 09:37 AM
please tell me Jonathan Wynock is not going to use Caylee's Song as a jump off point for his new career as a singer!! Are Geo/Cindy going to be his agents? Are they going to try to make money off this too? Is Cindy going to take a composing credit for the song? Performing that song at the memorial is one thing, traveling the talk show circuit with the Anthony's and performing it as background music is another!

Arrghhh! I just remembered Cindy wrote that song.... Copyright = $
JMO

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:37 AM
The only interveiwer that socked it to cindy anthony was meghan and she really socked it to her.

AMS
05-13-2009, 09:38 AM
I thought this exchange on NG was interesting.

GRACE: Now, Mr. Padilla, the inmate claims that tot mom has stockpiled all sorts of treats, beauty products in her jail cell. What`s with that?

PADILLA: Well, that`s -- she`s kind of a hoarder. When Tracy was staying with her there, she had all sorts of things that she would hoard from before she went into custody. Beads, making items for bracelets, necklaces. She`s just a pack rat. She hoards everything.

GRACE: Out to Dr. Patricia Saunders, clinical psychologist. We need a shrink, Saunders, weigh in.

PATRICIA SAUNDERS, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, the picture I get is of a greedy child sitting in her prison cell surrounded by food and makeup. I don`t think there`s any mental health issues here. She`s a drama queen and screaming, "I`m pissed," is probably the way she manipulated her parents.

GRACE: And apparently, it worked, Dr. Patricia Saunders.


imo

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:39 AM
Did anyone take the pol on LKL? 97percent say shes going to be convicted:thumbsup:

Do you have the link? I would love to go take that poll.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:40 AM
Do you have the link? I would love to go take that poll.

Just type in your browser Larry King Live it will take you to homepage. Its right there on the right hand side.

AMS
05-13-2009, 09:41 AM
Do you have the link? I would love to go take that poll.

It is about half-way down the page under Quick Vote.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/


imo

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:41 AM
Oh yeah, it was good. ***** stars!!:thumbsup:

Tonight's show should be good. The viewers who call in will be screened and the ones who get through, even if they take the soft approach to asking a question of an Anthony, will have them squirming, a bit. Conway will be answering for them, I bet.

bet they don't take to many calls tonight,..they will both have stiff necks from looking over to BC to answer all the those questions

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:42 AM
Im going to try to post a link. hang in there with me K?

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 09:42 AM
does any one know if Lenamon met with Casey or just wrote his brief based on what he knew about the case from Baez and the newspapers?

I don't know if he ever met with her.

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:43 AM
Well heck they ended up going with if she did kill Caylee it was a ACCIDENT ok..lol..I was shocked with what they did go with and did not use the mental defense..guess BOZO and KC messed up on this one..

Yes, they most definitely messed up, and there is no going back. I wonder once Casey is convicted if she will regret not having taken a plea deal in the beginning, when she could have gotten the best possible deal. Her stubborness will either get her the DP or spending the rest of her life in prison.

Pat
05-13-2009, 09:44 AM
There are so many gems in the WFTV link provided by AMS.

"It seems that the defense loves drama and this is just another example of the drama that this defense seems to play out," Sheaffer said. "The defense appears to be very unstable."

:laugh: :laugh: Wow! Who knew!

Baez's publicist said they're trying to protect the new attorney's identity because they don't want him to be attacked by the media.

If Baez would quit hiring lawyers like him, who have big, fat problems with their State Bar Associations, the media wouldn't ask uncomfortable questions.

"It's not a staged production. Again, let's not lose sight of what all of this is about, which is defending Casey Anthony on the charges of murder," Sheaffer said.

Mr. Sheaffer won't say publicly what we all know...in Baez's case, it's never been about defending Casey. It's all about Baez.

I especially liked Mr. Sheaffer's comment about getting your legs blown off over asking the wrong questions in a depo.

Thanks for the link, AMS!

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:44 AM
here goeshttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:47 AM
Do you think Casey Anthony will be convicted of murder? :thumbup:
Yes 93%
No 7%

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:48 AM
here goeshttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

whoops not quite:sad:

crimeq
05-13-2009, 09:50 AM
The only interveiwer that socked it to cindy anthony was meghan and she really socked it to her.

I loved that interview. I'd love to see another by Meghan! She didn't let loose of Cindy for one tiny second. :biggrin:

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:50 AM
Yes, they most definitely messed up, and there is no going back. I wonder once Casey is convicted if she will regret not having taken a plea deal in the beginning, when she could have gotten the best possible deal. Her stubborness will either get her the DP or spending the rest of her life in prison.

Dells I really think they did mess up.. I have no doubt she thinks she will walk..

Explorer
05-13-2009, 09:51 AM
whoops not quite:sad:

right church wrong pew. darned these new fangled machines:mad:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 09:51 AM
I so agree w/you. I think JB is looking out for himself and his own best interests and that is it. He doesn't care about Casey at all except in how her case can help him and help him launch his career as a high profile defense attorney. I find it truly disturbing. I guess Casey is just glad that someone is willing to try to get her off the 1st degree murder charge scott-free, that she either doesn't care or can't see how self centered driven all of JB's actions have been on her case.

I don't think Casey gives a care about Baez either, he is just a means to the end. She thinks he is going to get her out, she has played him from the beginning. I think she is the one pushing to go to trial, that fits exactly with her father's statement that she lives on the edge, pushing things as far as she can and then pushing some more. for her it's all or nothing. I doubt she has told JB the unvarnished truth, she won't admit to it ever. I think he is starting to realize just how deep in doo doo he is. If he has any brains he will do what one of the talking heads recommended, watch TV and see what the callers to all these shows and the polls on the internet are saying. All his possible defenses are being rejected, who does he think the viewers of these shows are, it's the future jurors on her case, you idiot, they are not falling for any of the BS you and her family are putting out there.
Wake up and smell the coffee!

Pat
05-13-2009, 09:52 AM
whoops not quite:sad:

You just need a space between goes and http...other than that, you did fine.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:54 AM
does any one know if Lenamon met with Casey or just wrote his brief based on what he knew about the case from Baez and the newspapers?

I thought he did but could be wrong..maybe just JB I would hope he had since he had to state the reasons why she should not get the DP..

Dells
05-13-2009, 09:56 AM
Attorney Left Defense Because He Disagreed With Baez's Strategy

http://www.wftv.com/news/19448158/detail.html

Thanks so much for the link. :seeya: I think just about everybody on this planet disagrees w/JB and his defense strategy. Except for Casey, the other members of the "Dream Team", and The Anthony's.:sneaky:

AMS
05-13-2009, 09:56 AM
Dells I really think they did mess up.. I have no doubt she thinks she will walk..

ITA - I believe she thinks she will walk. She probably still thinks that TonE is her boyfriend :sneaky:

imo

penguinlady
05-13-2009, 09:57 AM
I would love to send a shout out to "Dogs Rule" whomever you are..I needed to read that post after sobbing my way through the Caylee "I Have Rights" you tube video.

Awesome.

K!

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 09:58 AM
whoops not quite:sad:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 10:01 AM
ITA - I believe she thinks she will walk. She probably still thinks that TonE is her boyfriend :sneaky:

imo

AMS I really think she does..they say she spends her time reading law books..okey dokey is she gonna partner up with Bozo I mean JB she needs to be reading that bible and forget about her cookies and law books..:wink:

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:02 AM
One thing thats been bugging me is that cindy said caylee said zanny had a dog. Well... what was the dogs name? Any little kid always says the dogs name! they dont casually mention that the people have a dog. Why didnt cindy ask what the dogs name was? Doesnt pass the smell test.

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:04 AM
Lenamon, as a seasoned DP attorney knows, that if the state is seeking the DP, they have a pretty strong case for conviction. As an Attorney, the best job he can do for his client is to spare the needle and get LWOP for the client.

He knows it's near impossible to get Casey, or anyone else, off on an 'Insanity' defense. She knew what she was doing was wrong.

His best course of action, IMO, would have been in the penalty phase. He would have done his research and presented a whole host of mitigating factors hoping that a jury would agree with him and not give Casey death.

Bumbling Baez has big dreams of being this great Hispanic lawyer who gets his gal off. He doesn't want to hear anything else. There are no other options in his mind. And it doesn't matter if he's playing with Casey's life in the process. He's in it for himself.

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/this! For JB, it is all or nothing. Either she will get off scott-free, or else she will be convicted. He doesn't want there to be any middle ground such as a plea deal. He thinks he'll either be known as the attorney that got Casey Anthony acquitted or else, if she is found guilty, the defense attorney that did everything in his power to get her acquitted. He will then ride either one of those coattails to fame and fortune in his new career as a "high profile" defense attorney.:sneaky: In some ways I think JB is more self centered and more a narccasist than Casey. Although JB hasn't murdered anybody so Casey probably wins...:unsure:

Lavinia
05-13-2009, 10:04 AM
In my experience with trials it is very rare to hear one defense attorney criticize another one. This case has seen many defense attorneys Hammer baez on his methods. To actually see Lenamon do it on national TV is amazing to me.

I think if the chosen DPQ lawyer called Lenamon for advice he'd dish on baez in a New York minute.

I thought that was quite something too, Scamp, particularly in this point in the case. I can see him perhaps saying that when all is said and done but it seemed odd to me,too.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:05 AM
Dells, thanks for the link. Tried to pm you. You are locked up.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 10:05 AM
I would love to send a shout out to "Dogs Rule" whomever you are..I needed to read that post after sobbing my way through the Caylee "I Have Rights" you tube video.

Awesome.

K!

It was a great post wasn't it..pretty much summed it up

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 10:05 AM
AMS I really think she does..they say she spends her time reading law books..okey dokey is she gonna partner up with Bozo I mean JB she needs to be reading that bible and forget about her cookies and law books..:wink:

Yeah, and they said she was an 'Event Planner' too, lmao. I see Casey having law books for 'show'. Skimming a page here and there, to ask Baez a question or two to make herself look good.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:06 AM
One thing thats been bugging me is that cindy said caylee said zanny had a dog. Well... what was the dogs name? Any little kid always says the dogs name! they dont casually mention that the people have a dog. Why didnt cindy ask what the dogs name was? Doesnt pass the smell test.

LOL Explorer. I don't even bother thinking about anything to do w/the nanny storyline. It's all bunk. Every drop of it.

crimeq
05-13-2009, 10:07 AM
I would love to send a shout out to "Dogs Rule" whomever you are..I needed to read that post after sobbing my way through the Caylee "I Have Rights" you tube video.

Awesome.

K!

Where is the Dogs Rule post? The only LKL blog for the Anthonys I can get to now is the one for questions to ask the Ants. Is Dogs Rule's post on that thread, or the one from yesterday (where is yesterday's?).

TIA. Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:07 AM
ITA - I believe she thinks she will walk. She probably still thinks that TonE is her boyfriend :sneaky:

imo

And Tone will be very impressed that she can add law scholar to her list of job qualifications just like event planner.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:09 AM
Where is the Dogs Rule post? The only LKL blog for the Anthonys I can get to now is the one for questions to ask the Ants. Is Dogs Rule's post on that thread, or the one from yesterday (where is yesterday's?).

TIA. Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/

I just read it here. If you have trouble. Let me know and i'll copy and paste what was said, to you in pm.

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 10:09 AM
One thing thats been bugging me is that cindy said caylee said zanny had a dog. Well... what was the dogs name? Any little kid always says the dogs name! they dont casually mention that the people have a dog. Why didnt cindy ask what the dogs name was? Doesnt pass the smell test.

Cindy isn't as stupid as she tries to play.

She caught on that the pic Casey told her was from Zanny's apartment [the one with the drums] was really one of the guys places.

It's not a far stretch to realize that the dog too, belonged to someone else.

Cindy knows it, IMO. She's just playing dumb. Coming up with dumb things to say. Hoping that someone out there is dumb enough to believe her.

crimeq
05-13-2009, 10:10 AM
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/

I just read it here. If you have trouble. Let me know and i'll copy and paste what was said, to you in pm.

Thanks Tam, I'll go check it out. :seeya:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:10 AM
Thanks Tam, I'll go check it out. :seeya:

Anytime. I owe you anyhow for that one link...:biggrin:

Lapis
05-13-2009, 10:11 AM
Bolding mine....

I so agree w/this! For JB, it is all or nothing. Either she will get off scott-free, or else she will be convicted. He doesn't want there to be any middle ground such as a plea deal. He thinks he'll either be known as the attorney that got Casey Anthony acquitted or else, if she is found guilty, the defense attorney that did everything in his power to get her acquitted. He will then ride either one of those coattails to fame and fortune in his new career as a "high profile" defense attorney.:sneaky: In some ways I think JB is more self centered and more a narccasist than Casey. Although JB hasn't murdered anybody so Casey probably wins...:unsure:

JB should read up on his legal history. F. Lee Bailey made a career from getting the Boston Strangler a plea deal. JMO

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:11 AM
I don't think Casey gives a care about Baez either, he is just a means to the end. She thinks he is going to get her out, she has played him from the beginning. I think she is the one pushing to go to trial, that fits exactly with her father's statement that she lives on the edge, pushing things as far as she can and then pushing some more. for her it's all or nothing. I doubt she has told JB the unvarnished truth, she won't admit to it ever. I think he is starting to realize just how deep in doo doo he is. If he has any brains he will do what one of the talking heads recommended, watch TV and see what the callers to all these shows and the polls on the internet are saying. All his possible defenses are being rejected, who does he think the viewers of these shows are, it's the future jurors on her case, you idiot, they are not falling for any of the BS you and her family are putting out there.
Wake up and smell the coffee!



Good morning all,

You are so correct...except when it comes to Baez, He knows that Casey is snowing him, but she is a lawyers dream come true....as long as she never admits to him that she is guilty, Baez can honestly defend her. It is obvious when this dream team took over that the majority of them accepted....and that's because Casey is insisting that she is innocent....Now they get the biggest trial (most likely in their entire lives) and get a chance to display their techniques for all the rich criminals out there that will be hiring them when this is over....

It's all for the publicity only....

Last evening a man who was a previous lawyer for Casey (I forgot his name) withdrew from the case because Baez and he had different ways to handle the case....he wanted to go the "insanity defense" and Baez refused.....That told me a whole lot about Baez....something that I figured all along.....it's not whats best for Casey (his client) but what would give the most publicity """A TRIAL""""....for him....Baez only got the rest to go along, as long as Casey would NOT plead guilty....because if that should happen then there would be no trial other then for the penalty phase....and all these biggies would not get th publicity they are seeking........

Casey is snowing them and they are snowing Casey......(they all belong together)....

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:11 AM
It is about half-way down the page under Quick Vote.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/


imo

Thanks. :seeya: I just voted. It's at 94% thinking she will be convicted right now.:thumbup:

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:14 AM
whoops not quite:sad:

Thanks for trying! :seeya: I found my way to the poll and added my vote. I can't believe there are people out there that don't think Casey will be convicted. The votes are probably from The Anthony's and Casey's high profile "Dream Team". Casey is going down for sure!:thumbup:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Thanks. :seeya: I just voted. It's at 94% thinking she will be convicted right now.:thumbup:

Thanks again for the link..

That's quiet a legal challenge right there. Not gonna happen, IMHO.

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Good morning all,

Casey is snowing them and they are snowing Casey......(they all belong together)....

SNIPPED

:lol:

G'morning, Barb.

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Dells I really think they did mess up.. I have no doubt she thinks she will walk..

Well, she certainly is going to be in for a rude awakening once she is convicted then, huh?:thumbup:

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:16 AM
Thanks for trying! :seeya: I found my way to the poll and added my vote. I can't believe there are people out there that don't think Casey will be convicted. The votes are probably from The Anthony's and Casey's high profile "Dream Team". Casey is going down for sure!:thumbup:

It keeps going back an forth between 93 94 percent conviction. Yikes!! shes done!

crimeq
05-13-2009, 10:16 AM
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/lkl-web-exclusive-anthonys-respond-to-critics/

I just read it here. If you have trouble. Let me know and i'll copy and paste what was said, to you in pm.

:thumbsup: What a great post. Thanks for directing me to it!

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:16 AM
Well, she certainly is going to be in for a rude awakening once she is convicted then, huh?:thumbup:

Whatever will she be screaming then..

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:17 AM
Dells I really think they did mess up.. I have no doubt she thinks she will walk..

Well, she certainly will be in for a rude awakening once she is convicted then, huh?:thumbup:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:18 AM
:thumbsup: What a great post. Thanks for directing me to it!

Crime, I'm just paying it forward on that little gem. I started looking for it when Dell mentioned it on the board..

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:18 AM
I don't think Casey gives a care about Baez either, he is just a means to the end. She thinks he is going to get her out, she has played him from the beginning. I think she is the one pushing to go to trial, that fits exactly with her father's statement that she lives on the edge, pushing things as far as she can and then pushing some more. for her it's all or nothing. I doubt she has told JB the unvarnished truth, she won't admit to it ever. I think he is starting to realize just how deep in doo doo he is. If he has any brains he will do what one of the talking heads recommended, watch TV and see what the callers to all these shows and the polls on the internet are saying. All his possible defenses are being rejected, who does he think the viewers of these shows are, it's the future jurors on her case, you idiot, they are not falling for any of the BS you and her family are putting out there.
Wake up and smell the coffee!

So true! I think JB is too arrogant to ever admit this though.:sneaky:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:19 AM
Well, she certainly will be in for a rude awakening once she is convicted then, huh?:thumbup:

Dizzy.. Looking at post 131 and 132, going how did that happen.

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:19 AM
One thing thats been bugging me is that cindy said caylee said zanny had a dog. Well... what was the dogs name? Any little kid always says the dogs name! they dont casually mention that the people have a dog. Why didnt cindy ask what the dogs name was? Doesnt pass the smell test.


It's the most rediculous example that Cindy gave that could possibly be offered....Zany had a dog? Well then maybe we should find this dog and he can tell us something.....

I wonder if this family realize just how idiotic they sound when they open their mouth......

Now, if Cindy can produce this dog....that may have a license that was issued to the owner way back before this all happened...and that owner was a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales", then Cindy would have something of value.....but seeing as Cindy has neither a dog or a Zany...she needs to just shut up.....because the licensing of pets can be checked out as well......unless both her and her dog were here illegally....and no one ever saw them, and Zany never had to walk her dog.....

IMO...the dog thing is even more rediculous then the nanny story....

crimeq
05-13-2009, 10:19 AM
Crime, I'm just paying it forward on that little gem. I started looking for it when Dell mentioned it on the board..

It's a great one to keep out there. Excellent summation.

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:20 AM
Dells, thanks for the link. Tried to pm you. You are locked up.

You're welcome. :seeya: I think my pm box is probably full, thanks for letting me know!

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
It's the most rediculous example that Cindy gave that could possibly be offered....Zany had a dog? Well then maybe we should find this dog and he can tell us something.....

I wonder if this family realize just how idiotic they sound when they open their mouth......

Now, if Cindy can produce this dog....that may have a license that was issued to the owner way back before this all happened...and that owner was a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales", then Cindy would have something of value.....but seeing as Cindy has neither a dog or a Zany...she needs to just shut up.....because the licensing of pets can be checked out as well......unless both her and her dog were here illegally....and no one ever saw them, and Zany never had to walk her dog.....

IMO...the dog thing is even more rediculous then the nanny story....

yep it is laughable

101Spots
05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Thanks. :seeya: I just voted. It's at 94% thinking she will be convicted right now.:thumbup:

You can vote more than once. Just refresh the page and it reverts back to the vote part rather than the results. :wink:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
It's a great one to keep out there. Excellent summation.

Yep, if that poster over there,hasn't found us over here. I hope they do soon.

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
It was a great post wasn't it..pretty much summed it up

Yes it was! It seriously was one of the best posts that I have ever read about this case. It really summed everything up and it really highlighted all the missteps that George and Cindy have taken.:thumbup:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:22 AM
You're welcome. :seeya: I think my pm box is probably full, thanks for letting me know!

Yes Dells. I tried to thank you for the link and it wouldn't go through.

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 10:23 AM
Arrghhh! I just remembered Cindy wrote that song.... Copyright = $
JMO

Dang, she is gonna get royalties everytime that song is played now, and I'm sure she will demand it get played at every appearance. Cindy should write a book, 'how to profit from every angle when a loved one goes "missing"':angry:

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 10:26 AM
yep it is laughable

She tries rationalizing it by saying she's never seen God either but knows he exists.

George probably got the hammer for telling LE that Caylee had no recognition of Zanny, or her day with Zanny, when George asked her.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 10:26 AM
Cindy isn't as stupid as she tries to play.

She caught on that the pic Casey told her was from Zanny's apartment [the one with the drums] was really one of the guys places.

It's not a far stretch to realize that the dog too, belonged to someone else.

Cindy knows it, IMO. She's just playing dumb. Coming up with dumb things to say. Hoping that someone out there is dumb enough to believe her.

yep the ones with the dark curtains and Caylee in a little summer dress..it was RM apartment had drums he was teaching Caylee how to play the drums..and she did ask her that didn't she during one of their visits and KC said it was laid out like that but not Zanny's place...lol..

KatieLady
05-13-2009, 10:28 AM
Here's Caylee's myspace page. http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=122459029&blogId=488826384
Watch George and Cindy on Larry King Live

Special performance by
Jonathan Wynock "Caylee's Song"

You can be they are getting a cut of any sales :rolleyes:

IMO

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:28 AM
SNIPPED

:lol:

G'morning, Barb.


Good morning to you too,

I don't think I'm going to be able to refrain from watching LKL tonight...I'm too nosey to see what next lie they are going to come up with.....

I know I'm just going to get mad and want to kick my TV......:cursing: but if I don't watch, I'll just get frustrated...

Ckrdpast
05-13-2009, 10:29 AM
morning everyone!!

i just have to add some thoughts to Larry King Live and his blogs

from http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/casey-anthony-george-cindy-are-public-relations-flops/

in a post by DonFl may 13 1:17 AM
Blog staff leaves a note

Note: Hi Don,
Larry King Live will indeed be live with the Anthonys tomorrow at 9pm. Not sure where the bad information claiming it will be taped came from, but that is simply not true. We plan on sharing these comments, as well as comments from others with the Anthonys
Warmest Regards,
LKL Blog Staff


coupled with the newest blog to submit your questions

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

this screams to me

tune in and see if YOUR comment or question is one we've chosen
thus getting people to tune into watch<---ratings

IMO-G & C are there to sell

1. Their caylee foundation
2. KFN


even if LK does ask some questions-there will be no answers from the anthonys-only stares and winks to Brad Conway-who will probably answer with a "we cant go into that at this time"

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:31 AM
She tries rationalizing it by saying she's never seen God either but knows he exists.

George probably got the hammer for telling LE that Caylee had no recognition of Zanny, or her day with Zanny, when George asked her.

Isnt it funny that now she starts mentioning God. Its a scoundrels last resort to try to get credibility. She shouldnt be dragging God into this. :rolleyes:Shell be answering to God soon enough. As will that crazy daughter of hers.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:31 AM
morning everyone!!

i just have to add some thoughts to Larry King Live and his blogs

from http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/casey-anthony-george-cindy-are-public-relations-flops/

in a post by DonFl may 13 1:17 AM
Blog staff leaves a note

Note: Hi Don,
Larry King Live will indeed be live with the Anthonys tomorrow at 9pm. Not sure where the bad information claiming it will be taped came from, but that is simply not true. We plan on sharing these comments, as well as comments from others with the Anthonys
Warmest Regards,
LKL Blog Staff


coupled with the newest blog to submit your questions

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

this screams to me

tune in and see if YOUR comment or question is one we've chosen
thus getting people to tune into watch<---ratings

IMO-G & C are there to sell

1. Their caylee foundation
2. KFN


even if LK does ask some questions-there will be no answers from the anthonys-only stares and winks to Brad Conway-who will probably answer with a "we cant go into that at this time"

OOOOOO wwwwwwwweeee Tomorrows front page headlines will be..

Larry King is a maggot w/no integrity..

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 10:32 AM
It's the most rediculous example that Cindy gave that could possibly be offered....Zany had a dog? Well then maybe we should find this dog and he can tell us something.....

I wonder if this family realize just how idiotic they sound when they open their mouth......

Now, if Cindy can produce this dog....that may have a license that was issued to the owner way back before this all happened...and that owner was a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales", then Cindy would have something of value.....but seeing as Cindy has neither a dog or a Zany...she needs to just shut up.....because the licensing of pets can be checked out as well......unless both her and her dog were here illegally....and no one ever saw them, and Zany never had to walk her dog.....

IMO...the dog thing is even more rediculous then the nanny story....

:ohmy:Barb you are from Florida O my you will be paying taxes for the KC dream team there goes everyones pay check...lol...:wink:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Cindy isn't as stupid as she tries to play.

She caught on that the pic Casey told her was from Zanny's apartment [the one with the drums] was really one of the guys places.

It's not a far stretch to realize that the dog too, belonged to someone else.

Cindy knows it, IMO. She's just playing dumb. Coming up with dumb things to say. Hoping that someone out there is dumb enough to believe her.

Oh, you are so right...Cindy is far from stupid....and you are also right when you say that she is looking for some people out there that will believe her story the way she believed Casey's......BUT will they be on the jury? I don't think so (at least I hope not)....That's where the prosecution has to be real careful.....because this whole case is relying on that one juror who will buy the BS.....

This so called "team" has absolutely nothing else to go on....

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Isnt it funny that now she starts mentioning God. Its a scoundrels last resort to try to get credibility. She shouldnt be dragging God into this. :rolleyes:Shell be answering to God soon enough.

All of ya'll in Cali.. Ya'll better be hoofin' it out of there.. She starts on god, and there might be trouble.. ya'll don't want to be in the middle of that..

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
OOOOOO wwwwwwwweeee Tomorrows front page headlines will be..

Larry King is a maggot w/no integrity..

ROFLMAO:thumbsup:

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
In my experience with trials it is very rare to hear one defense attorney criticize another one. This case has seen many defense attorneys Hammer baez on his methods. To actually see Lenamon do it on national TV is amazing to me.

I think if the chosen DPQ lawyer called Lenamon for advice he'd dish on baez in a New York minute.

des Thank you for all the links this morning. I had missed Lenamon last night on NG.

Scampi, It is my belief that JB is for JB and that is all. He might have tried to get Lenamon back on the case to be the DPQ lawyer, but wouldn't go with JB telling him that she wouldn't take a plea and this is how we are going to go to trial. jmo If this is the case then JB still doesn't have a DPQ lawyer. Would the state appoint one if JB can't find one? Also I do not think that the state can dictate how JB is doing depos at this time. He has already deposed TL in October of last year which I think would have been a very important depo for this case, since OC had spent so much time with him and had talked a lot about anything and everything during the time she was supposedly grieving. So in one way this depo was done to early and now he can not depo him again. Even though now it was just released that he had worked with the state to get a private recording between him and Lee. How many times is this defense going to blunder? :confused:

Ckrdpast
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
OOOOOO wwwwwwwweeee Tomorrows front page headlines will be..

Larry King is a maggot w/no integrity..

wonder if he smells like pizza?:rolleyes:

crimeq
05-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Dang, she is gonna get royalties everytime that song is played now, and I'm sure she will demand it get played at every appearance. Cindy should write a book, 'how to profit from every angle when a loved one goes "missing"':angry:

I still remember the fake beatific look on Cindy's face at the memorial service, bobbing her head while the song was being sung. This whole family just turns my stomach.

Explorer
05-13-2009, 10:35 AM
All of ya'll in Cali.. Ya'll better be hoofin' it out of there.. She starts on god, and there might be trouble.. ya'll don't want to be in the middle of that..

ROFLMAO:thumbsup:

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 10:36 AM
I'm sure it's a waste of time because Larry King does not have the nerve to ask them a tough question. It looks like he's giving them a national platform to solicit donations.

GM Moon :seeya: I think that LK should retire now!

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:36 AM
ROFLMAO:thumbsup:

:biggrin:........

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 10:37 AM
It's the most rediculous example that Cindy gave that could possibly be offered....Zany had a dog? Well then maybe we should find this dog and he can tell us something.....

I wonder if this family realize just how idiotic they sound when they open their mouth......

Now, if Cindy can produce this dog....that may have a license that was issued to the owner way back before this all happened...and that owner was a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales", then Cindy would have something of value.....but seeing as Cindy has neither a dog or a Zany...she needs to just shut up.....because the licensing of pets can be checked out as well......unless both her and her dog were here illegally....and no one ever saw them, and Zany never had to walk her dog.....

IMO...the dog thing is even more rediculous then the nanny story....

If Caylee had no name recognition of "Zanny" as per George, how the heck did she tell Cindy about "Zanny's" dog. Oh grandma, that lady who watched me whose name I don't know has a dog. Gimme a break! every time they open their mouths they make the story they are trying to shove down our throats that much harder to swallow. Baez said early on that Casey had a reasonable explanation for why she didn't report Caylee missing and when we heard the reason we would all totally understand it. I don't understand the delay in sharing that info with us. Caylee is dead, no reason to keep quiet any more, no need to run up a huge legal bill and waste so much time twiddling her thumbs in jail, spit it out and I'm sure the Prosecutors will drop all charges and apologize profusely. Maybe her family hasn't made enough
money off this dead baby yet, perhaps Casey wants a nice nest egg so she doesn't have to get a job either when she is "aquitted"

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:38 AM
wonder if he smells like pizza?:rolleyes:

yes he smells like pizza and bengay.. but.. it's them that stinks..

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:39 AM
Dizzy.. Looking at post 131 and 132, going how did that happen.

Weird! I don't know how that happened either.:unsure:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 10:39 AM
It keeps going back an forth between 93 94 percent conviction. Yikes!! shes done!

George and Cindy must be home "voting and refreshing the page" furiously to keep it from hitting 100%!!! :laugh:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:39 AM
:ohmy:Barb you are from Florida O my you will be paying taxes for the KC dream team there goes everyones pay check...lol...:wink:



If she gets convicted, it will be money well spent.....The way I look at it, is that we wont get a rebate if she doesn't go on trial....so at least us Floridians get to see our money spent for a good reason.....

However, I believe that if the state accepts the responsibility of paying some of these fees, it will be at the minimal and some of those biggies will have to jump ship or work for free....there is just no way Florida is going to pick up this kind of tab........

And we will all get to see Casey being taken away to the big house...(I can not wait for that moment)...:tonguewag:

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:40 AM
Weird! I don't know how that happened either.:unsure:

I'm psychic :biggrin:

Thats what you call intuned there.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:43 AM
George and Cindy must be home "voting and refreshing the page" furiously to keep it from hitting 100%!!! :laugh:

Swig, click, refresh.. swig, threaten Geo, click refresh... Swig, click, cuss media, swing hammer, refresh..

enigma
05-13-2009, 10:44 AM
Cindy isn't as stupid as she tries to play.

She caught on that the pic Casey told her was from Zanny's apartment [the one with the drums] was really one of the guys places.

It's not a far stretch to realize that the dog too, belonged to someone else.

Cindy knows it, IMO. She's just playing dumb. Coming up with dumb things to say. Hoping that someone out there is dumb enough to believe her.

Well, SURPRISE!!!!... :rolleyes:

it seems to me that the only thing Cindy A doesn't talk about is Caylee and the last time she saw her, because she gets her dates and times all mixed up.

For a grandmother who was looking for her "missing" granddaughter, she didn't do muck looking at all. Instead, she obstructed every which way she could when it became a search for a body,...

I will never forget Cindy's outraged screaming: show me a body (paraphrasing). She was shown her granddaughter's body very soon thereafter.

Careful what you wish for. Show me a body. There was Caylee, discarded in the woods in a garbage bag. Cindy got the body shown to her. Yet she's still sporting the mother of the year. God make sense of it all - I certainly cannot.

JMHO

frances1
05-13-2009, 10:45 AM
Swig, click, refresh.. swig, threaten Geo, click refresh... Swig, click, cuss media, swing hammer, refresh..

You forgot 'chomp on gum'.

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 10:47 AM
please tell me Jonathan Wynock is not going to use Caylee's Song as a jump off point for his new career as a singer!! Are Geo/Cindy going to be his agents? Are they going to try to make money off this too? Is Cindy going to take a composing credit for the song? Performing that song at the memorial is one thing, traveling the talk show circuit with the Anthony's and performing it as background music is another!

GM ish, I find it interesting that on http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/ that one of their major sponsors is a production company from California for songs and lyrics. http://sfarzoproductions.com/ I bet the Anthony's and the KFN are planning on making a profit off a cd one day in memory of Caylee. jmo

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 10:48 AM
If Caylee had no name recognition of "Zanny" as per George, how the heck did she tell Cindy about "Zanny's" dog. Oh grandma, that lady who watched me whose name I don't know has a dog. Gimme a break! every time they open their mouths they make the story they are trying to shove down our throats that much harder to swallow. Baez said early on that Casey had a reasonable explanation for why she didn't report Caylee missing and when we heard the reason we would all totally understand it. I don't understand the delay in sharing that info with us. Caylee is dead, no reason to keep quiet any more, no need to run up a huge legal bill and waste so much time twiddling her thumbs in jail, spit it out and I'm sure the Prosecutors will drop all charges and apologize profusely. Maybe her family hasn't made enough
money off this dead baby yet, perhaps Casey wants a nice nest egg so she doesn't have to get a job either when she is "aquitted"


Let's face it...there is NO reasonable or any other kind of explanation for NOT reporting your child missing....

If her story had any credence to it....What would she say? that she feared for her OWN life while her child was being murdered? That she feared for Cindy and George being harmed so she let her 2 year old take it all? And don't forget...WHILE SHE PARTIED....

There is NO way out for Casey....she is going take that long walk.....

marshmallow
05-13-2009, 10:48 AM
morning everyone!!

i just have to add some thoughts to Larry King Live and his blogs

from http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/casey-anthony-george-cindy-are-public-relations-flops/

in a post by DonFl may 13 1:17 AM
Blog staff leaves a note

Note: Hi Don,
Larry King Live will indeed be live with the Anthonys tomorrow at 9pm. Not sure where the bad information claiming it will be taped came from, but that is simply not true. We plan on sharing these comments, as well as comments from others with the Anthonys
Warmest Regards,
LKL Blog Staff


coupled with the newest blog to submit your questions

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

this screams to me

tune in and see if YOUR comment or question is one we've chosen
thus getting people to tune into watch<---ratings

IMO-G & C are there to sell

1. Their caylee foundation
2. KFN


even if LK does ask some questions-there will be no answers from the anthonys-only stares and winks to Brad Conway-who will probably answer with a "we cant go into that at this time"


LKL is trying to get people to watch

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:49 AM
You forgot 'chomp on gum'.

Oh god.. I just imagined GEO having gum bandaids. :biggrin: Somebody help me. My imagination runs wild sometimes.. Geo at the LKL thing w/gum all over his head.. That's funny..

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 10:49 AM
OOOOOO wwwwwwwweeee Tomorrows front page headlines will be..

Larry King is a maggot w/no integrity..

Breaking News JB says his client is pizzed and can not get a fair trial looky at all these comments..lol..I put nothing past him..don't forget maggots and parasites..I have been called worse sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me..especially out of their mouths but I am a little afraid of CA hammer and bat and GA water hose I think I can take him on just fine my water pressure is much better:wink:

kanzz
05-13-2009, 10:50 AM
RE: the LKL comments page

Dogs Rule --- this poster RULES!

I also liked this summary:
Mona - May 13th, 2009 12:43 am ET

bchand
05-13-2009, 10:51 AM
GM ish, I find it interesting that on http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/ that one of their major sponsors is a production company from California for songs and lyrics. http://sfarzoproductions.com/ I bet the Anthony's and the KFN are planning on making a profit off a cd one day in memory of Caylee. jmo

Cindy claims to have written the song right? So she definitely will profit for any copies sold.

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:52 AM
Let's face it...there is NO reasonable or any other kind of explanation for NOT reporting your child missing....

If her story had any credence to it....What would she say? that she feared for her OWN life while her child was being murdered? That she feared for Cindy and George being harmed so she let her 2 year old take it all? And don't forget...WHILE SHE PARTIED....

There is NO way out for Casey....she is going take that long walk.....

I so agree w/you! She feared for Caylee's life, that is why she didn't tell anybody? Well, her daughter was already supposedly taken by this evil nanny, so no matter who she told (be it LE or her close family and friends) Caylee's life would have been in danger either way. She also feared for her family's lives? If she feared so much for their lives, then why didn't she even bother to tell them that they were in extreme danger? I can believe that Casey feared for her own life because if anyone found out that Caylee was missing she would be immediately suspected and then her life and freedom would be in danger because she would be arrested. And that is exactly what happened.

frances1
05-13-2009, 10:54 AM
morning everyone!!

i just have to add some thoughts to Larry King Live and his blogs

from http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/casey-anthony-george-cindy-are-public-relations-flops/

in a post by DonFl may 13 1:17 AM
Blog staff leaves a note

Note: Hi Don,
Larry King Live will indeed be live with the Anthonys tomorrow at 9pm. Not sure where the bad information claiming it will be taped came from, but that is simply not true. We plan on sharing these comments, as well as comments from others with the Anthonys
Warmest Regards,
LKL Blog Staff


coupled with the newest blog to submit your questions

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

this screams to me

tune in and see if YOUR comment or question is one we've chosen
thus getting people to tune into watch<---ratings

IMO-G & C are there to sell

1. Their caylee foundation
2. KFN


even if LK does ask some questions-there will be no answers from the anthonys-only stares and winks to Brad Conway-who will probably answer with a "we cant go into that at this time"

If they are truly going to share these comments with the Anthonys, they will have to look long and hard to find a positive one.

Ckrdpast
05-13-2009, 10:54 AM
LKL is trying to get people to watch

precisely my point marshmallow!! he is trying to get all those people that left blog comments saying they would NOT watch the show to watch....

i hope everyone follows thru with their promise not to watch--we will find out tomorrow with the overnight tv ratings

:beer: here's hoping he tanks

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 10:55 AM
The only interveiwer that socked it to cindy anthony was meghan and she really socked it to her.

GM Explorer, Yes she did and I think that Cindy needed it and should have some interviews like that every month. LOL

In case anyone has never seen this interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvEhnzlobA

Dells
05-13-2009, 10:56 AM
RE: the LKL comments page

Dogs Rule --- this poster RULES!

I also liked this summary:
Mona - May 13th, 2009 12:43 am ET

Wow, Mona's comment was awesome!!:thumbsup: Thanks for pointing it out. :seeya:

enigma
05-13-2009, 10:57 AM
LKL is trying to get people to watch

Hi marshmallow :)

It's already done and dusted. The A's achieved a distinctly soporific effect on me... YAWNies...

JMHO

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 10:58 AM
Breaking News JB says his client is pizzed and can not get a fair trial looky at all these comments..lol..I put nothing past him..don't forget maggots and parasites..I have been called worse sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me..especially out of their mouths but I am a little afraid of CA hammer and bat and GA water hose I think I can take him on just fine my water pressure is much better:wink:

Poor JB, he is desperate..

LOL, A video camera of Cindy walking around town might be funny.. Jesus parted the red sea... She parts the state of florida.. She walks by and people scatter.

marshmallow
05-13-2009, 10:59 AM
precisely my point marshmallow!! he is trying to get all those people that left blog comments saying they would NOT watch the show to watch....

i hope everyone follows thru with their promise not to watch--we will find out tomorrow with the overnight tv ratings

:beer: here's hoping he tanks

I'll be watching Criminal Minds. Dr Reid is my idea of a dream guy... I'm such a nerd :D
The Anthony-a-thon will go one with or without me so I choose without me.

AJandTam
05-13-2009, 11:00 AM
I'll be watching Criminal Minds. Dr Reid is my idea of a dream guy... I'm such a nerd :D
The Anthony-a-thon will go one with or without me so I choose without me.

I like him too.. He's too skinny but I like him.

Ckrdpast
05-13-2009, 11:03 AM
I'll be watching Criminal Minds. Dr Reid is my idea of a dream guy... I'm such a nerd :D
The Anthony-a-thon will go one with or without me so I choose without me.

love Criminal Minds--but Idol is on my tv tonite

NO LKL/ANTHONYS for me

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Cindy isn't as stupid as she tries to play.

She caught on that the pic Casey told her was from Zanny's apartment [the one with the drums] was really one of the guys places.

It's not a far stretch to realize that the dog too, belonged to someone else.

Cindy knows it, IMO. She's just playing dumb. Coming up with dumb things to say. Hoping that someone out there is dumb enough to believe her.

GM msgator, Indeed just like OC's defense team has been doing. They are trying to get someone to believe anything they bring up. But it is not going to work. OC will be in prison for along time. :thumbup:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:03 AM
I so agree w/you! She feared for Caylee's life, that is why she didn't tell anybody? Well, her daughter was already supposedly taken by this evil nanny, so no matter who she told (be it LE or her close family and friends) Caylee's life would have been in danger either way. She also feared for her family's lives? If she feared so much for their lives, then why didn't she even bother to tell them that they were in extreme danger? I can believe that Casey feared for her own life because if anyone found out that Caylee was missing she would be immediately suspected and then her life and freedom would be in danger because she would be arrested. And that is exactly what happened.



Yes, yes and yes....exactly correct...

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:06 AM
GM msgator, Indeed just like OC's defense team has been doing. They are trying to get someone to believe anything they bring up. But it is not going to work. OC will be in prison for along time. :thumbup:

For ever....:thumbsup:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:08 AM
I'll be watching Criminal Minds. Dr Reid is my idea of a dream guy... I'm such a nerd :D
The Anthony-a-thon will go one with or without me so I choose without me.

I wish I had your kind of will power.....I might be thinking I wont...but then I will give in....but just because I'm nosey to see their next lie....

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 11:09 AM
GM Explorer, Yes she did and I think that Cindy needed it and should have some interviews like that every month. LOL

In case anyone has never seen this interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvEhnzlobA

:thumbsup: No soft balling it there. Tellin it like its seen.

This is before Cindy started chewing on the gum. Looks like she was chewing on her lip to keep quiet at one point when the wadding boots needed to be taken out.

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:09 AM
George and Cindy must be home "voting and refreshing the page" furiously to keep it from hitting 100%!!! :laugh:

:lol: ish that is a belly buster :lol:

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:11 AM
If she gets convicted, it will be money well spent.....The way I look at it, is that we wont get a rebate if she doesn't go on trial....so at least us Floridians get to see our money spent for a good reason.....

However, I believe that if the state accepts the responsibility of paying some of these fees, it will be at the minimal and some of those biggies will have to jump ship or work for free....there is just no way Florida is going to pick up this kind of tab........

And we will all get to see Casey being taken away to the big house...(I can not wait for that moment)...:tonguewag:

GM Barbara, I am right behind you with this. :thumbup:

msgatorslayer
05-13-2009, 11:12 AM
If they are truly going to share these comments with the Anthonys, they will have to look long and hard to find a positive one.

Taking a page from NG callers.

Hi Cindy, this is Debbie, from Florida. I love what you're doing and your Grand Daughter was so special.

It must be hard on you. How are you holding up?

[sarcasm off}

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:15 AM
Cindy claims to have written the song right? So she definitely will profit for any copies sold.

HiYa bch, Yes she did claim this to be fact, but I bet she had help and that everyone gets a cut, but she will get the most. :angry:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:15 AM
love Criminal Minds--but Idol is on my tv tonite

NO LKL/ANTHONYS for me


"Idol"....I even abandoned the Idol for this case.....I never missed an episode...until this case.....after I missed the beginning, I couldn't get into it....hopefully next season....(unless the trial is going on at the time)....:angry:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 11:16 AM
If she gets convicted, it will be money well spent.....The way I look at it, is that we wont get a rebate if she doesn't go on trial....so at least us Floridians get to see our money spent for a good reason.....

However, I believe that if the state accepts the responsibility of paying some of these fees, it will be at the minimal and some of those biggies will have to jump ship or work for free....there is just no way Florida is going to pick up this kind of tab........

And we will all get to see Casey being taken away to the big house...(I can not wait for that moment)...:tonguewag:

we haven't seen too much of her big defenders lately, Kobi, LKB, Lee, Reichs, they all seem very quiet. I wonder if sum ting wrong. Maybe things are not looking too good for the OC.

cassidy
05-13-2009, 11:21 AM
I'll be watching Criminal Minds. Dr Reid is my idea of a dream guy... I'm such a nerd :D
The Anthony-a-thon will go one with or without me so I choose without me.


I'll be watching Criminal Minds too. Anything the Anthony's will say I have most likely already heard.

frances1
05-13-2009, 11:23 AM
I think they're getting ready to talk about the Anthony case on the View right after this commercial break, for anyone who's interested.

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 11:23 AM
GM ish, I find it interesting that on http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/ that one of their major sponsors is a production company from California for songs and lyrics. http://sfarzoproductions.com/ I bet the Anthony's and the KFN are planning on making a profit off a cd one day in memory of Caylee. jmo

maybe it will become the theme song for KFN and play everytime you click on their website.

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:24 AM
I'll be watching Criminal Minds too. Anything the Anthony's will say I have most likely already heard.

exactly cassidy, same song second verse or have we passed the 100th verse by now. I can't keep up with Cindy and her mouth. :biggrin:

Scampi
05-13-2009, 11:24 AM
For those of our intrepid sleuthies who are not going to watch LKL tonight, don't fret we'll post the transcript of the show as soon as they are available.

Tomorrow we can all dish and rehash their dismal performances.

:thumbsup:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 11:25 AM
Swig, click, refresh.. swig, threaten Geo, click refresh... Swig, click, cuss media, swing hammer, refresh..

you're forgetting chump chump on the gum:laugh:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:26 AM
we haven't seen too much of her big defenders lately, Kobi, LKB, Lee, Reichs, they all seem very quiet. I wonder if sum ting wrong. Maybe things are not looking too good for the OC.

You could be right (sumsing wrong:laugh:)....I haven't seen Koby for some time now...could be he is keeping a low profile because underneith it all he knows that Casey is a murderer....Koby always struck me as a real good guy...I hope he doesn't disappoint me....

The rest could be waiting for the big day to take place....I honestly believe that the trial will go as scheduled....It wont linger on for too long....they are all anticipating the publicity they will get from this case.....They wont want it to die down....they want to get it while it's in the limelight....

bchand
05-13-2009, 11:28 AM
I think they're getting ready to talk about the Anthony case on the View right after this commercial break, for anyone who's interested.

Thanks frances. I have it on too. First, Jack Ford is talking about Drew Peterson.

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 11:30 AM
maybe it will become the theme song for KFN and play everytime you click on their website.

ish, KFN better have a mute button for that. I hope that isn't going to be the case. Geesh!

DebinNv
05-13-2009, 11:32 AM
I keep trying to vote on LKL, and it won't go through. I keep getting an error on the page.

My 2 1/2 year old nephew loves our dog. His name is Harley, but my nephew calls him Charwee. I think if there really had been a dog, the name would have been known.

I'm not going to tune in and watch LKL.

frances1
05-13-2009, 11:33 AM
Sorry, bad information. They did not discuss the Anthony case on the View, just Drew Peterson and the Craigslist murders. Jack Ford was the guest.

AMS
05-13-2009, 11:35 AM
For those of our intrepid sleuthies who are not going to watch LKL tonight, don't fret we'll post the transcript of the show as soon as they are available.

Tomorrow we can all dish and rehash their dismal performances.

:thumbsup:

My mother is here and she LUVS :loveeyes: Larry King. So the TV will be on in our house! I'll be watching!

imo

Katprint
05-13-2009, 11:35 AM
Why not go with THE TRUTH!
Sounds like the defense is trying to come up with a reason
for Casey killing Caylee.
I thought lawyers were not suppose to lie or condone lies .
If these 2 discussed mentally ill opposed to accident.....well again
what is the truth.
Is that concept so hard to grasp?
Mental illness might be the truth. Not legal insanity which would lead to an acquittal but some diminished mental capacity which might mitigate the penalty.

Casey's past inability to control her impulses, manifested by her not graduating with her class from high school (leaving aside the whole disputed issue concerning whether she later earned a GED) as well as her pathological lying and stealing, her binge drinking, her excessive promiscuity, etc. might warrant scientific/medical examinations to determine whether she suffers from organic brain damage. For example, perhaps Cindy drank a lot while pregnant with Casey which caused some degree of fetal alcohol syndrome. Or maybe Casey's stories of being abused by her father are true (I daresay many of us have wanted to knock some sense into Casey ourselves) and Casey suffered brain damage as a result of a blow to the head. However, if Casey sticks with her unlikely alibis then she is unlikely to bring up reasons why she might have committed this heinous crime and certainly the prosecution is unlikely to introduce possible mitigations either.

Philosophically, I am in Lenamon's camp. I strongly prefer to admit true facts and focus on possible explanations/excuses which reduce culpability than to stand fast and deny reality.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

AMS
05-13-2009, 11:39 AM
Here's a question posted for the A's on the Orlando Sentinel blog. I like the question.

Do you bear any moral responsiblity in the death of Caylee Anthony?


imo

MiamiNice1
05-13-2009, 11:40 AM
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, I'm jumping in here at the end....

I happened to notice a comment on LKL by someone named "express" and they said they were the editor of The Caylee Daily.....they commented to Cindy A that Michelle Barth has not been paid $17,000 that Cindy owes her for services rendered?

Did anyone else see this one?! So many people cannot be wrong - the Anthonys haven't been paying anyone, it appears.

imo

breezie
05-13-2009, 11:42 AM
I wish I had your kind of will power.....I might be thinking I wont...but then I will give in....but just because I'm nosey to see their next lie....

just wait for youtube. It'll be out before Cindy's nose grows.

*MoonRider*
05-13-2009, 11:43 AM
I keep trying to vote on LKL, and it won't go through. I keep getting an error on the page.

My 2 1/2 year old nephew loves our dog. His name is Harley, but my nephew calls him Charwee. I think if there really had been a dog, the name would have been known.

I'm not going to tune in and watch LKL.

Try this http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Vote early and often :biggrin:

StickyBeak
05-13-2009, 11:46 AM
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, I'm jumping in here at the end....

I happened to notice a comment on LKL by someone named "express" and they said they were the editor of The Caylee Daily.....they commented to Cindy A that Michelle Barth has not been paid $17,000 that Cindy owes her for services rendered?

Did anyone else see this one?! So many people cannot be wrong - the Anthonys haven't been paying anyone, it appears.

imo


I did read this as well. The A's will probably say "The checks in the Mail" after tonight performance and clearing of residual check. JMO

They pay "no one" because everyone is working pro bono don't ya know.

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 11:47 AM
Cindy claims to have written the song right? So she definitely will profit for any copies sold.

OFGS you have got to be kidding me she wrote a song? well yep they will get blood money out of it..

jakee
05-13-2009, 11:49 AM
So true! But according to Cindy, a not yet 3 year old toddler was able to tell her it was a Pomerenian mix. :rolleyes:

Did Cindy really say this? Caylee knew what kind of puppy Zanny had but not the name of said puppy?

Scampi
05-13-2009, 11:49 AM
If they are truly going to share these comments with the Anthonys, they will have to look long and hard to find a positive one.

Hi Fran! Unfortunately the anthonys will use all of these negative comments to bolster their contention that people have made up their minds without hearing the "evidence" at trial. On its face that is an accurate statment, however it neglects the fact that the public who have been keeping a very close eye on this case right from the beginning, has seen some of the discovery upon which the State got their indictment and requested the death penalty.

I hope LK points this fact out to them when they attempt this smoke and mirrors BS.

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 11:49 AM
LKL is trying to get people to watch

please if any "bad" questions get asked Cindy will fall back on the " we don't know what happened to Caylee, Larry, we want to know what happened, Casey deserves a fair trial, we love her" spoken in a butter could melt in her mouth voice, as she clasps hands with George who nods and smiles and says "Casey's our daughter, we love her and we loved that little girl" barf

DebinNv
05-13-2009, 11:49 AM
Try this http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Vote early and often :biggrin:

Thank you!!! I will try again.

MiamiNice1
05-13-2009, 11:51 AM
I did read this as well. The A's will probably say "The checks in the Mail" after tonight performance and clearing of residual check. JMO

They pay "no one" because everyone is working pro bono don't ya know.
So glad you saw that as well, Sticky! Yes, everyone is soooo fortunate to be close to them, helping them! <roll eyes!>

I can just imagine this as the Anthony's immature behavior - they get mad at someone, take their marbles and go home and then feel completely justified in not paying them.

imo

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:52 AM
Mental illness might be the truth. Not legal insanity which would lead to an acquittal but some diminished mental capacity which might mitigate the penalty.

Casey's past inability to control her impulses, manifested by her not graduating with her class from high school (leaving aside the whole disputed issue concerning whether she later earned a GED) as well as her pathological lying and stealing, her binge drinking, her excessive promiscuity, etc. might warrant scientific/medical examinations to determine whether she suffers from organic brain damage. For example, perhaps Cindy drank a lot while pregnant with Casey which caused some degree of fetal alcohol syndrome. Or maybe Casey's stories of being abused by her father are true (I daresay many of us have wanted to knock some sense into Casey ourselves) and Casey suffered brain damage as a result of a blow to the head. However, if Casey sticks with her unlikely alibis then she is unlikely to bring up reasons why she might have committed this heinous crime and certainly the prosecution is unlikely to introduce possible mitigations either.

Philosophically, I am in Lenamon's camp. I strongly prefer to admit true facts and focus on possible explanations/excuses which reduce culpability than to stand fast and deny reality.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


You are correct....I would have taken that route as well....however, it wouldn't have helped Casey in the trial...only as mitigating circumstances at the penalty phase...once Casey hid the body, any mental defense was thrown out the window (according to Florida law)...However it might get her off of the DP and will most likely be brought up at the penalty phase once she is found guilty.....at that time no one, not even her attorney's will be able to still say she in not guilty of the charges....They will have to present reasons for her actions only....(that will cetainly kill Cindy)...because she will not be allowed to say at anytime that her daughter is innocent....rather, why she did it...or why she shouldn't get the DP...which will probably be that Cindy was the one to call 911 and the state should not put that guilt on her , that her 911 call cost her daughter her life.....and the court will take that into consideration......

puppyraiser
05-13-2009, 11:52 AM
Katprint,

Interesting that you mention organic brain damage, specifically FAS. I've been thinking along that line for a while now. I've worked with children and adults with FAS, from the mildest cases to the most severe, and I believe's Casey's personality traits are very similar to some individuals I have encountered.

Scampi
05-13-2009, 11:54 AM
My mother is here and she LUVS :loveeyes: Larry King. So the TV will be on in our house! I'll be watching!

imo

I'll be watching right along with you and Mom, AMS. There is always a chance mommy and/or daddy will implode live and I would not want to miss that for all the tea in China!

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:54 AM
just wait for youtube. It'll be out before Cindy's nose grows.



:laugh: I like that......

Didn't think about that...that is an option....Maybe I will be able to wait...

sydney
05-13-2009, 11:57 AM
sorry if this has been asked before (i try to follow the developments but work interferes!)

has anyone thought the state may have put the dp back on the table to get baez to possibly withdraw and stop adding to the drama?

GIGI4256
05-13-2009, 11:57 AM
You could be right (sumsing wrong:laugh:)....I haven't seen Koby for some time now...could be he is keeping a low profile because underneith it all he knows that Casey is a murderer....Koby always struck me as a real good guy...I hope he doesn't disappoint me....

The rest could be waiting for the big day to take place....I honestly believe that the trial will go as scheduled....It wont linger on for too long....they are all anticipating the publicity they will get from this case.....They wont want it to die down....they want to get it while it's in the limelight....

IMO Casey will insist that trial take place as scheduled. She believes she's getting out of jail when it is over. :biggrin:

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 11:58 AM
You could be right (sumsing wrong:laugh:)....I haven't seen Koby for some time now...could be he is keeping a low profile because underneith it all he knows that Casey is a murderer....Koby always struck me as a real good guy...I hope he doesn't disappoint me....

The rest could be waiting for the big day to take place....I honestly believe that the trial will go as scheduled....It wont linger on for too long....they are all anticipating the publicity they will get from this case.....They wont want it to die down....they want to get it while it's in the limelight....

maybe there's not enough money to pay them to make the Alibi tour. they may just show up for the big payday in court. Baez has to watch his pennies, after all, Casey only has 15K in the bank (per TonE) and no access to Caylee's piggy bank anymore.

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 11:59 AM
Did Cindy really say this? Caylee knew what kind of puppy Zanny had but not the name of said puppy?


Cindy was talking....as always "nonsense"....I never even heard of a dog until Cindy was being deposed at Morgan and Morgan....


Cindy is just throwing things out there...any thing that comes to her little mind....the whole family is trying with everything they have (which is NOTHING)...to try and save Casey.....

Nothing is going to work....all Cindy will ever be able to say to Casey is "well we tried"......

The sadest part is that it seems as though this family has totally forgotten about little Caylee.....whose mother took away her right to live.....This means nothing to this family....(it's really ,messed up)

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 12:01 PM
sorry if this has been asked before (i try to follow the developments but work interferes!)

has anyone thought the state may have put the dp back on the table to get baez to possibly withdraw and stop adding to the drama?

OMG no, Baez withdraw from the case? we can't have that happen. There would be no comic relief without his public remarks!:rolleyes:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 12:02 PM
maybe there's not enough money to pay them to make the Alibi tour. they may just show up for the big payday in court. Baez has to watch his pennies, after all, Casey only has 15K in the bank (per TonE) and no access to Caylee's piggy bank anymore.


What was wrong with TonE...to believe that she had money in the bank but couldn't get up enough for a gallon of gas?......Didn't he find that a bit odd?


And Casey must have known that Caylee would not be needing that money in her piggy bank......This broad is the lowest of low.....

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 12:03 PM
IMO Casey will insist that trial take place as scheduled. She believes she's getting out of jail when it is over. :biggrin:

Casey can keep on dreaming, it will only mean that she will take the conviction even harder...:thumbsup:

aproudmom
05-13-2009, 12:04 PM
thanks got my vote in..


Do you think Casey Anthony will be convicted of murder?
Yes 96%
No 4%



http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 12:05 PM
Cindy was talking....as always "nonsense"....I never even heard of a dog until Cindy was being deposed at Morgan and Morgan....


Cindy is just throwing things out there...any thing that comes to her little mind....the whole family is trying with everything they have (which is NOTHING)...to try and save Casey.....

Nothing is going to work....all Cindy will ever be able to say to Casey is "well we tried"......

The sadest part is that it seems as though this family has totally forgotten about little Caylee.....whose mother took away her right to live.....This means nothing to this family....(it's really ,messed up)

Yeah, Well we tried. But it's not my fault sweetheart, it's your's for telling lies. TOo bad we'd visit but we don't want those tapes on TV, so drop us a letter now and again. If we don't respond it means we're out
on the SS Caylee Marie, looking for missing children. Good Luck with the appeal, say Hi to Bertha for us.

sydney
05-13-2009, 12:08 PM
i found it interesting when lenammon (sp?) said that baez "found someone else, i guess" (parahrasing). it almost seemed like, even after he split with baez over "significant disagreements" he wanted back in on the case. anyone else think that?

also, not sure when an insanity/mental illness defense has to be raised. anyone know if they have to declare it at this time, or just prior to trial? seemed like that is the route lenammon wanted to go, and i would think that that strategy would be a lot saner than the "nanny did it" they are claiming now. at any rate, i think it would look even worse if they decided to go with mental illness now, when they've been preaching "the nanny did it" all this time.

bchand
05-13-2009, 12:09 PM
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, I'm jumping in here at the end....

I happened to notice a comment on LKL by someone named "express" and they said they were the editor of The Caylee Daily.....they commented to Cindy A that Michelle Barth has not been paid $17,000 that Cindy owes her for services rendered?

Did anyone else see this one?! So many people cannot be wrong - the Anthonys haven't been paying anyone, it appears.

imo

As the Anthonys like to put it Miami - they have a "contract" with these people.

IMO it means "when their ship comes in." That's the ship we're all interested in.

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 12:09 PM
sorry if this has been asked before (i try to follow the developments but work interferes!)

has anyone thought the state may have put the dp back on the table to get baez to possibly withdraw and stop adding to the drama?



Your guess is as good as anyone else's....no one really knows why it was put back on....could be the results proved that the death was horrific....could be to try and make a deal......could VERY well be to try and knock Baez out of that first seat......However, it was mentioned last night that a death qualified lawyer is only obtained by the state in a case like this...the state would not have been allowed to hire anyone less qualified.......BUT, when a client hires their own attorney (as in this case)...the attorney does not have to be death qualified....

How true that is, I can not tell you...it sounds reasonable....but I can not attest to it.....

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 12:09 PM
What was wrong with TonE...to believe that she had money in the bank but couldn't get up enough for a gallon of gas?......Didn't he find that a bit odd?


And Casey must have known that Caylee would not be needing that money in her piggy bank......This broad is the lowest of low.....

He chalked it up to that Crazy Casey, never checks the gas gauge cause she's so busy being a single mom, event planner, and all around fantastic girlfriend. :rolleyes:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Yeah, Well we tried. But it's not my fault sweetheart, it's your's for telling lies. TOo bad we'd visit but we don't want those tapes on TV, so drop us a letter now and again. If we don't respond it means we're out
on the SS Caylee Marie, looking for missing children. Good Luck with the appeal, say Hi to Bertha for us.




Sounds just like Cindy.....I love it...:laugh::thumbsup:

Barbara fl.
05-13-2009, 12:14 PM
And the other three percent represent G,C,L and Baez wearing out their fingerprints voting.:wink:



Without a doubt....that is where the 3 percent are...:laugh:.

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 12:15 PM
What was wrong with TonE...to believe that she had money in the bank but couldn't get up enough for a gallon of gas?......Didn't he find that a bit odd?


And Casey must have known that Caylee would not be needing that money in her piggy bank......This broad is the lowest of low.....

That dope George knew AND kept putting more money into the piggy. Jeez open an account in a bank and deposit your change there, so the OC can't get her hands on it.

frances1
05-13-2009, 12:15 PM
He chalked it up to that Crazy Casey, never checks the gas gauge cause she's so busy being a single mom, event planner, and all around fantastic girlfriend. :rolleyes:

Sounds like a TV series......That Crazy Casey, so busy and so zany (Zanny) she lost her own child.

frances1
05-13-2009, 12:16 PM
That dope George knew AND kept putting more money into the piggy. Jeez open an account in a bank and deposit your change there, so the OC can't get her hands on it.

George.......what a tool!!!

nothingnew
05-13-2009, 12:18 PM
morning everyone!!

i just have to add some thoughts to Larry King Live and his blogs

from http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/casey-anthony-george-cindy-are-public-relations-flops/

in a post by DonFl may 13 1:17 AM
Blog staff leaves a note

Note: Hi Don,
Larry King Live will indeed be live with the Anthonys tomorrow at 9pm. Not sure where the bad information claiming it will be taped came from, but that is simply not true. We plan on sharing these comments, as well as comments from others with the Anthonys
Warmest Regards,
LKL Blog Staff


coupled with the newest blog to submit your questions

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/a-place-to-ask-your-questions-for-the-anthonys/

this screams to me

tune in and see if YOUR comment or question is one we've chosen
thus getting people to tune into watch<---ratings

IMO-G & C are there to sell

1. Their caylee foundation
2. KFN


even if LK does ask some questions-there will be no answers from the anthonys-only stares and winks to Brad Conway-who will probably answer with a "we cant go into that at this time"

Well sure just like they did last time.....oh wait that's right they didn't read any last time they just vaguely mentioned about "some people" and left it at that. Larry is such a dum azz. Also how sincere can this "LKL blog staff" be if they won't even claim their own post by assigning their name to it. As cindy would say "look up". As I say when you look up guess who is looking down and watching all of this?

sydney
05-13-2009, 12:19 PM
a caller on ng (or was it jvm) last night said that if casey was indeed looking for the nanny at nightclubs, who did casey think was watching caylee then? i mean, casey even said she trusted "zanny" and didn't think any harm would come to caylee when zanny first took her to "show her (casey) a lesson" (unless, of course, casey did the responsible thing and went to the police, in which case, according to casey, harm may have befallen caylee). So, how could this person be trustworthy enough to watch her child when casey apparently assumed she was out partying all the time, like casey herself was?

anyone following my line of thinking?

martha
05-13-2009, 12:20 PM
Good morning everyone, I guess there is nothing new out today. I know lk will have them on tonight. He is looking for ratings like all the other shows. oprah did not need that. She already has plenty of people watching her show lk does not. I am so glad to hear what casey in in store for if she goes to prison so lwop is what she needs to get. She has lived a very good life up until now so she may pay for what she did if she gets lwop. I do want to see justice for Caylee.Bless her heart she never had a chance to live her life. my heart breaks for her and all the other children that or mistreated.jmho

Neffy
05-13-2009, 12:22 PM
sorry if this has been asked before (i try to follow the developments but work interferes!)

has anyone thought the state may have put the dp back on the table to get baez to possibly withdraw and stop adding to the drama?

Never would consider this being a possibility. The prosecutors had a strong case before Caylee's remains were found. Not enough for the death penalty as no body. Once the body was found and in the condition it was, bagged, duck taped, heart sticker, location, Casey's whereabouts as well as her unaccounted whereabouts and monumentous lies. That's murder and an intentional act in the first degree.

This isn't about Baez. It's about murder.

Pam1569
05-13-2009, 12:25 PM
a caller on ng (or was it jvm) last night said that if casey was indeed looking for the nanny at nightclubs, who did casey think was watching caylee then? i mean, casey even said she trusted "zanny" and didn't think any harm would come to caylee when zanny first took her to "show her (casey) a lesson" (unless, of course, casey did the responsible thing and went to the police, in which case, according to casey, harm may have befallen caylee). So, how could this person be trustworthy enough to watch her child when casey apparently assumed she was out partying all the time, like casey herself was?

anyone following my line of thinking?

sydney, Kinda makes you wonder if the ID or Driver license that the sheriff lady grabbed when Cindy was going through the bag that Lee brought back from TL that the name on it might be ZFG. That means OC was ZFG. jmo

ishkabibble
05-13-2009, 12:26 PM
a caller on ng (or was it jvm) last night said that if casey was indeed looking for the nanny at nightclubs, who did casey think was watching caylee then? i mean, casey even said she trusted "zanny" and didn't think any harm would come to caylee when zanny first took her to "show her (casey) a lesson" (unless, of course, casey did the responsible thing and went to the police, in which case, according to casey, harm may have befallen caylee). So, how could this person be trustworthy enough to watch her child when casey apparently assumed she was out partying all the time, like casey herself was?

anyone following my line of thinking?

And if TonE worked as a DJ in Fusion prior to meeting Casey, and ZFG frequented Fusion as Casey says, why didn't TonE know her, If I met a guy and he worked at a place my nanny frequented, I would most likely say to him "Hey my nanny comes here do you know her" and also ask the nanny if she knew the boyfriend.

We should send a list of these questions to the prosecution, I'm sure they think of all the angles but hey LE missed some big questions too.

Neffy
05-13-2009, 12:27 PM
Did anyone take the pol on LKL? 97percent say shes going to be convicted:thumbsup:

I hope it's not lost on the Anthony's and Baez that this is nationwide and NOT local Orlando.