Tuesday, May 12

[Lovethechild]

Please let Haleigh be found today!

[Texas48]

Good morning, Love, thank you for the new thread, I am adding my prayer that she comes home today!Hello X..I always look for ya..there was a post last night that I will find for you..laughed so hard when I saw it and was wishing you were still on to read it.. yep..it was about.........CR....:scared:lol..TY for the prayer..

[sickntired]

:rose:Haleigh come home.:rose:

[Motomom]

Good morning everyone. Has there been any real news lately? Hoping Haleigh is found soon!!

[?noanswer]

Was RC & CS ever married? On http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments comment #460 AH refers to him as Johnny S's son in law. JMO

[calamitygirl]

your real or other nic's posted, then don't post anyone else's.

Report nic's to me, if more than one is active at same time I'll delete one,but you must have proof.

Posting real names is automatic banning.

Good morning. What does posting real names mean? Is that real life names?

[Texas48]

Good morning CW and Thank you..

[?noanswer]

Good morning. What does posting real names mean? Is that real life names?

Real names of posters and any other people that are not directly involved in a case that is being discussed. JMO

[calamitygirl]

Real names of posters and any other people that are not directly involved in a case that is being discussed. JMO

Thank you for replying.

[Texas48]

Good morning! I will wait and see if you find it! Too much for me to try and catch up from the previous night and work, too! I did sneak a peak, tho and you guys were at it hot and heavy into the wee hours! Must be some dedicated coffee drinkers on here, LOL, I have to check Art's page and see if he responded to Patricia about the sheets and the dogs.......BRBHere you go X..Last nights..post #474 by Bubbles..

[carlybarly]

You know I went back to the beginning today and also listened to the 911 call. I never listened to it before, never had a free moment (without a 2 year old at my elbow lol) but I had read the transcripts. I know a lot of people have a hard time with Ron and his cursing and the way he talks to Misty during that, calling her a dumb b and what not. Honestly, if he wouldn't have reacted in that way, I would have been suspicious of him from that moment. I think I or myhusband would have reacted the same, I would have lashed out at him also, I mean he would have been right there without the answers to "where is mychild?".

What did disturb me about the call was Misty, she is upset and you can hear it in her voice, but twice she went from hysterics to eerie calm. The first was when asked what the numerical was to the house and she calmly stops and says, what is that (paraphrasing here) and the second was around when she was asked about the door showing signs of prying or forced entry. To me, she sounds more upset that Ron is flipping out than she is that the little girl is gone. I can also understand her not knowing the height and weight of Haleigh, on the spot I probably wouldn't have been able to think of that either with my sons at five unless they had just had a doc visit, but not to even know the girls birthdate? Granted they were only together for five months at that time, but if Haleigh wanted her to be her mother so bad (as they said as one reason they were marrying) wouldn't she at least have known the girls birthdate or birth month?

I don't know why Ron married her, not only the fact she was the last one that saw the girl but they had been together for what, six months when they married? First thought is he did it to keep her close, as the saying goes keep your friends close, your enemies closer. But of course we may never know what was going through hs head when he married her. But I certainly don't see her as some helpless teen victim here; I've known a lot of coniving sneaky teen girls in my day, it doesn't matter the age of the guy or even if he has a girlfriend and kids (just an example there), but if they want someone they'd do whatever to get them. And I also don't fall for the her dad is scared of Ron hurting or whatever to Misty and that is why he changed his story, if he was that worried about his daughter she would have been living at home, she wouldn't have married Ron and countless other things.

But anyway, I cannot find the video of Ron throwing himself on the ground, as some call it lol. Can someone point me in the right direction with that?

[panache]

Here you go:


http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html

[panache]

Kristina (Nay Nay) Previt files for Paternity

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

[panache]

TYVM panache we can always count on you

Your welcome madam. Did you see Nay Nay has filed for paternity? I hope this isn't the first step towards custody. I would hate to see that little baby living at that pink house.

moo

[CANDYKISSES]

There was a final paternity judgement back in March. A hearing is set for June 26th. She was petitioning for child support. If he has custody I don't knnow how she is filing for child support though so the case may be dismissed.


Plaintiffs
PREVATT KRISTINA R

Defendants
SPELL DONEVAN LEVAL

2009-03-16 015.PATERNITY EVALUATION LABORATORY REPORT

2009-03-16 016.FINAL JUDGMENT OF PATERNITY - FL#200954670684

Thanks bookie, your diligent follow-up is always appreciated. I wonder what her filing is really about at this point? JMO :thumbup:

[panache]

yes but I wasn't aware that paternity of her child was in question, I thought it was that much older man.....and does he still have the baby?

Looks like bookie answered your question madame. I'm off to the salt mines to earn my living. Have a wonderful day, and keep hoping Haleigh will be located.

[titanfan217]

Kristina (Nay Nay) Previt files for Paternity

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

The one I found shows her as defendent.

542009DR000654FDXXXX

[dustyk]

Paternity makes no sense since it was already established so I'm guessing he's going for custody and child support.
looks like equal rights for all....grown men impregnating young druggies, taking the baby and filing for child support. WTH Wouldn't want to be a judge in this day and age. IMO

[dustyk]

um IIRC doesn't he have a record? Will that prevent him from getting custody? It makes sense that he would seek child support, but that will be like trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip, IMO
To me it is starting to sound like a new way to get women to support them...I read he is 46, he should have known what Birth Control is and what was he doing with Nay Nay. These poor children IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Paternity makes no sense since it was already established so I'm guessing he's going for custody and child support.

Hopefully Kim will be able to save Ms. Prevatt and help her out of this mess. JMO. :wink:

[dustyk]

Hopefully Kim will be able to save Ms. Prevatt and help her out of this mess. JMO. :wink:
The only thing that would get her out of this mess is to get off the drugs and become a contribution to society. I don't know about anybody else but hearing about all the drugs and babies on SSi and welfare, My hard earned taxes that are taken out of my paycheck every week is helping to pay for this mess. IMO

[?noanswer]

Hopefully Kim will be able to save Ms. Prevatt and help her out of this mess. JMO. :wink:

Think she will do it probono? I bet KP didn't know how many clients she could get when she decided to come to Putnam Co.!

[?noanswer]

The only thing that would get her out of this mess is to get off the drugs and become a contribution to society. I don't know about anybody else but hearing about all the drugs and babies on SSi and welfare, My hard earned taxes that are taken out of my paycheck every week is helping to pay for this mess. IMO


If I thought throwing money to any of these people would help the children to get away from the lifestyle they are in and become a contributing member of society, I wouldn't mind. I really don't think the money will be used for the children. Most times it is used to help the parent live in the style to which they have become accoustomed!

[dustyk]

If I thought throwing money to any of these people would help the children to get away from the lifestyle they are in and become a contributing member of society, I wouldn't mind. I really don't think the money will be used for the children. Most times it is used to help the parent live in the style to which they have become accoustomed!
The time spent learning how to work the system for money would be better spent learning how to go to work and support themselves...I only hope that neither side didn't stage this for money from donations.
JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Think she will do it probono? I bet KP didn't know how many clients she could get when she decided to come to Putnam Co.!

I would certainly hope so ?noanswer. I am not too impressed with her actions in this case, but am open to seeing a new and improved KP that's for certain. :sneaky:

I keep remembering something my grandmother used to say about laying down with dogs and coming up with fleas....:unsure: and that's every time I see Kim doing something positive for her client strangely.

JMO

Someone has to have some information that might lead to Haleigh and I am praying for that someone to step up to the plate.

[titanfan217]

Maybe they are all going for the big book deal.

I wouldn't want to be the author, though I guess you just listen to the various versions and pick the one that sells the most books.

This morning I read that it was RC's aunt with GGM and MC's was just fixing dinner when they got there and something about baths & still a different outfit for Haleigh.

Wonder if this mystery aunt is the same relative that is supposedly watching JR daily.

[dustyk]

I would certainly hope so ?noanswer. I am not too impressed with her actions in this case, but am open to seeing a new and improved KP that's for certain. :sneaky:

I keep remembering something my grandmother used to say about laying down with dogs and coming up with fleas....:unsure: and that's every time I see Kim doing something positive for her client strangely.

JMO

Someone has to have some information that might lead to Haleigh and I am praying for that someone to step up to the plate.
That laying down with dogs and coming up with fleas easily applies to both sides of this situation.IMO

[titanfan217]

If I thought throwing money to any of these people would help the children to get away from the lifestyle they are in and become a contributing member of society, I wouldn't mind. I really don't think the money will be used for the children. Most times it is used to help the parent live in the style to which they have become accoustomed!

ITA Don't get me started on that one.

[?noanswer]

Maybe they are all going for the big book deal.

I wouldn't want to be the author, though I guess you just listen to the various versions and pick the one that sells the most books.

This morning I read that it was RC's aunt with GGM and MC's was just fixing dinner when they got there and something about baths & still a different outfit for Haleigh.

Wonder if this mystery aunt is the same relative that is supposedly watching JR daily.

It probaby won't ever be done, but the Son of Sams Law or whatever it was that prevented criminals from benefitting from crimes should be reinstated and it should include any relatives/friends etc. It is a shame that a lot of these families end up much better off financially after a crime than before. JMO

[?noanswer]

Good morning everyone, just getting a few minutes on computer and trying to catch up. panache, I am so glad she has filed, now this will tell if Ron is the father and if so he needs to take responsibility of this child. If Not it can put to rest the rumors. Every child deserves to know who their father is. Thanks for posting...:thumbup:

Bam Bam, I think you need another cup of Java! It was NN, not AB. I havent't looked at the link, but sounds like it is the 47 yo father that is filing against her. From what I understand he was granted custody earlier this year. JMO

[titanfan217]

It probaby won't ever be done, but the Son of Sams Law or whatever it was that prevented criminals from benefitting from crimes should be reinstated and it should include any relatives/friends etc. It is a shame that a lot of these families end up much better off financially after a crime than before. JMO

ITA

Maybe someone will write it as a fiction. Who would believe it anyhow?

Remember I live in Illinois with the infamous x-gov and his hot book deal. Hope nobody buys it.

[Mimi428]

OOPS.... Maybe I should have kept reading before posting, so she does NOT think Ron is the father??? I'm hurrying to catch up, be right there. LOL


I don't think Nay Nay ever thought Ron was the father. She is the one who said that Ron did not like her because her baby daddy was a black man.

[Mimi428]

Oh gracious, everyone please forgive me, I have went back and deleted both posts. Well at least you guys can laugh at me today and get away with it. My brain is sick as my sinuses are. I think it really is the cough syrup with codeine. Yep thats it. LOL:blushing:

Not to worry, not to worry.

There seems to be plenty enough of these young girls with drug arrests & babies, it is easy to get one mixed up with the other.

[?noanswer]

KP helped with the emergency custody issue when Nay Nay agreed to go to rehab, then she didn't go then the baby daddy alledgedly called Cobra and said Nay Nay was threatening to take the child and kill herself, then Cobra came and took her back to jail.

That's the way I remember it please correct me if I am wrong.

I don't know about the emergency custody, but IIRC, the rest of what you stated is correct. At that time I didn't realize that the father had gone to court and was awarded custody, but someone posted a linik up thread and said the father was granted custody in March of this year. I bet NN never thought she could be sued for child support. It is such a shame, the little children are the one who suffer in cases like this. JMO

[?noanswer]

bookie I don' suppose there's any way to trace Haleigh via scripts that have to be filled, is there? I mean, IF relatives have her somewhere, they may be filling prescriptions......I guess that would be a really long shot

I betcha LE has checked with her DRs and looked into if there have been any Dr. visit and prescriptions filled. Surely if someone took Haleigh, they would not be stupid enough to go anyplace where someone knows her. On second thought, if someone took her and still has her, they are stupid for at least not returning her to a neutral place for her to be "found". JMO

[Mimi428]

I seem to remember she is on a HGH because of her illness. There are so many things involved in her medical care she would have to be seeing a doctor if she is with someone who loves her, of course if they loved her she would be at home right now.

I seriously doubt a pediatric endocrinologist is going to accept a new patient without a thorough history & a request for prior medical records.

hGH is administered via injection & I think Haleigh was too young at the time she went missing to have started on hGH treatments. To the best of my limited recall, I think they start that closer to the ages of 9-10.

JMO

[Mimi428]

Exactly Mimi which is why I am wondering if anyone else in the family has similar diagnosis as Haleigh? If turners does indeed run in the family then it is possible a Cousin, Aunt, Uncle ect... could have the same types of meds? Could possibly be sharing them?
I don't know.


No. hGH would be administered for a few years while she was growing. It would not be an ongoing treatment. Somebody else would have had to have another little girl with Turner syndrome & would have to be denying that little girl her hGH injections in order to give them to Haleigh.

Speaking only for myself, I think the 'Gone Baby Gone' scenario is very unlikely. It's a nice 'feel good' possibility, but I don't believe it is at all realistic. But that's JMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

J. Atilio Canas, an endocrinologist at Nemours Children’s Clinic, said it would depend on each patient’s unique case. For instance, certain girls with Turner syndrome can have cardiac problems. If that was the case, then that child could need medication.

Haleigh's grandmother, Teresa Neves, said Friday that she doesn't need medication and gets checkups every six months.

Cummings said he has no idea who might try to take his daughter.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-12/story/girlfriend_explains_more_of_what_she_knows_about_m issing_haleigh

[Mimi428]

After what I read about Turner's I agree with you. So sad.
O/T I wonder if there is some type of gene therapy for this condition?
It makes me angry what I already know is true about the media not covering cases of kids that do not meet media appeal criteria. Adji is case in point.

ITA, it is disheartening to realize just how finicky & fickle the media and the audience is for stories of missing people, children & adults. Especially disheartening for the missing children. I have believed since fairly early on that the audience would not stay interested in a story of a little girl from a family like what poor Haleigh was born into. I would be hard pressed to say that I think any one of them is even slightly admirable - & that is putting it as kindly as I can.

JMO

[Mimi428]

I think too the reason why CA and Haleigh's cases are getting so much attention is becasue people WANT these cases ALL OF THEM to be covered. No one likes to see these little kids coming up missing and worse but what can we do? The media needs to realize there are a lot of us who don't care where the children come from or who their family members are. These are just kids and they all deserve the same amount of attention no matter what.

Caylee's case does have some unbelievably unique properties, so I can understand why it gets a lot of media coverage. Casey as a criminal, I predict, will be used as a textbook study. The family dynamics will also be studied for years to come, IMO.

I agree that all these children deserve attention, but I think history has proven over & over again that when it comes to children with families the likes of Haleigh's, there won't be a large audience. No media outlet can survive by covering stories for which there is little interest.

JMO

[Mimi428]

I think Ron has tried to be as good a father of his children as possible. I do NOT think Ron is a druggie, I do think he probably smokes pot...


I think if even HALF the general audience shared your opinion of Ron that this case would be getting a lot more mainstream coverage.

You notice it isn't getting that coverage, I'm sure.

[Texas48]

Madame X..........I did give you the right post # this morning but right after that CW cleaned up the board so there were some post deleted which changed the post # I gave you.....It is post 467 now.. lol..really glad the discussion has turned to CR..everytime his name comes up everyone skips on by so IMO..this is a good and interesting discussion..

[titanfan217]

Pia, catch up CK just posted an article where TN said Haleigh wasn't on any meds, which I for one totally missed from the beginnig.

Also, IIRC it was TN that said something was missing from the home that should have always been with Haleigh. I wondered if it may have been a car seat. But it may have been a personal memento. We simply don't know at this point.




???? Where was/is Haleigh's car seat?

[5boxersmom]

Does anyone have the exact quote by TN talking about something being with Haleigh? I have searched and can not find it.

tia

[Santa'sMom]

Regarding Chad Reynolds, He had no vehicle and he was last seen approximately 80 miles from where Ronald lived. Unless he knew Ronald and had kept in touch with him, it doesn't seem likely to me that Chad hitchhiked that far to randomly steal a child and somehow managed to stumble upon a scenario where he could walk in, take a child who is sleeping just a few feet away from the person taking care of her, sneak out with her, and disappear without leaving any signs of him or her. Not saying that it couldn't happen, but it does seem highly unlikely. There hasn't been any news regarding Chad in Lake or Sumter counties so it sounds like LE doesn't feel he is a concern for the public. There has been talk on here about Chad's status being changed on the SO site. Other than being listed as an absconder (I'm thinking that is probably an automatic change after x-amount of time), nothing has changed. He was originally listed as being under the jurisdiction of Putnam county, which is where the crime occured and the base for that county's Parole Office is Daytona. If Chad did know Ronald and had been in touch, it would seem like Ronald would have owned up to it by now. Anyway, I think this may be why people tend to skip on past the Chad Reynolds talk. I'm not saying that it isn't a possibility but LE has said something along the lines of this was not an abduction so it seems to me that they feel that it was a family member somewhere along the line that was responsible for whatever and where ever Haleigh is. I keep hoping that its another case like the one in England (I think it was) where the mother hid her daughter with a relative to get money from people and that Haleigh is fine and will soon be found. jmoo, of course

[teresa]

I think that when Teresa N said Haleigh requires no medication that she was being asked about the Turner's.

Marie stated that Haleigh has asthma and we have seen the pictures of Haleigh with a nebulizer. I don't think she is old enough to outgrow the asthma yet so I think she must have used inhalers. That might be what is missing and should always be with her.

[carlybarly]

In looking for where TN said something about something special to Haleigh I came across this piece of interview

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What bothers you most about this perplexing case? We -- we are all mystified. How did this child disappear out of a double-wide trailer with two other people asleep? The little boy, Ron Jr., has reportedly said that a man in black -- dressed in black took him away. Have you heard that from his lips, and what are your thoughts on all of this, this mystery?

CONNIE SHEFFIELD: The day it happened he was allowed to walk up to where we were all located, and I think that`s more or less the mind of a child when speaking to find some comfort in where his sister may have gone because the children are afraid themselves.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are you saying you don`t believe that a man in black went in there -- in other words, you think that this is a child`s imagination?

CONNIE SHEFFIELD: I would. That`s what I think, because my son himself there again. When we took him home he drew pictures about boats and helicopters. And him and R.J. are closely related in age, so I can see where a child would want to find reasoning to all this.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ijvm.01.html

So am I reading this correctly? This is Crystal's step mother. I find it odd that other's on Crystal's side believe JR but she doesn't. Or was this perhaps another misprint in transcripts.

Ok now back to looking lol.

[E-U-R]

There was a final paternity judgement back in March. A hearing is set for June 26th. She was petitioning for child support. If he has custody I don't knnow how she is filing for child support though so the case may be dismissed.


Plaintiffs
PREVATT KRISTINA R

Defendants
SPELL DONEVAN LEVAL

2009-03-16 015.PATERNITY EVALUATION LABORATORY REPORT

2009-03-16 016.FINAL JUDGMENT OF PATERNITY - FL#200954670684

Just my opinion but whenever a court is about to rule on custody they usually get the DNA as a fact... usually don't just rely on a signed birth certificate... it was reported that the father only had temporary custody... maybe they are moving forward with making that official and usually they come up with a child support plan for both parties to have it ready for when the decision is made... I often wondered before if it was tru that Ron doubted the paternity of JR like I saw reported somewhere... when they awarded him custody that is usually looked at before hand I thought

[Texas48]

I don't think any missing child or person gets a lot of media attention unless their is a arrest and a trial. I don't think that has anything to do with the parents. If a arrest, she will become headlines again. As long as LE is involved and in this case they will, Haleigh will always be remembered. Maybe not in National news but by many in the surrounding counties. Her memory will never die. IMOHey guys...just got back and lad to see CR has been discussed..Have been readinn a few post..IMO missing children do not get the media attention they should..I always think of little Adji..he just took my heart. I wish we could think of a way that ALL missing children could have the media attention they so deserve.

[JackiBlu]

Just my opinion but whenever a court is about to rule on custody they usually get the DNA as a fact... usually don't just rely on a signed birth certificate... it was reported that the father only had temporary custody... maybe they are moving forward with making that official and usually they come up with a child support plan for both parties to have it ready for when the decision is made... I often wondered before if it was tru that Ron doubted the paternity of JR like I saw reported somewhere... when they awarded him custody that is usually looked at before hand I thought

My bold;

Please check the court documents for custody, page 3; the Judge asked if there was any question that Mr. Cummings is the biological Father of BOTH children.

http://www.cbs47.com/media/news/e/4/2/e42078af-0580-47ab-8b13-b60c9d0f9ac3/cummings1.pdf

Please don't try to start rumors before reading the custody documents.

JMO

[Texas48]

I see what you're saying, beautiful young daughter of Senator, takes ballet class, etc is going to get alot more coverage than daughter of pot smoker who marries the babysitter is going to get alot more coverage on the national news.

Its hard for JVM to report on the story when it makes her laugh sometimes. Its almost like people think children of a certain economic class are disposable, KWIM? Maybe I didn't say that right, but its like when they drafted boys for the war in Vietnam, boys who didn't do well in high school and had no hopes for college were the first to go, disposable.

Every life is of the utmost value, not just because of the way the person themselves lives it, but what might become also of the people whose lives they touch, IMO

I have to believe that Haleigh's disappearance will mean some changes in the lives of her family and friends. Changes for the better that will give that generation of children a better chance in life. They all need to step it up a notch.I have never heard you post so beautifully...so well thought out and so right about everything you wrote..I truly enjoyed your post and your words from the heart..PS..See in my previous post there are typos..you guys will figure out what I *meant* to type..lol..

[Texas48]

There used to be one like that in Rincon Georgia. He just got his license reinstated a year or so ago.I would be willing to bet anyone can find one of these doctors anywhere..just takes some searching..

[Texas48]

Oh, I agree. I have always said, I compare a joint to a six pack of beer. MOO, I have a couple of brothers who disagree with me.LOL

ETA: I am sure Ron,Crystal, Misty and all the players started with just smoking pot. I even think Ron was doing heavier drugs until Haleigh was born. I think she replaced the heavy drugs. I have seen that happen many times over. Unfortunately NOT for everyone. I guess I have seen it and know what a child can do for some people. MOOI can honestly say I have never tried a *joint*..not that I'm straightlaced but because of the age..back in my day a six pack was REALLY getting away with something..or so we thought..lol. I do read that it is helping many ppl with different illness so for that it is a good thing. I agree that having children will change a person for the better..in most cases..and if they want to change. jmo

[Texas48]

Oh thanks Tex, whew, had me going there for a minute, I was like wait a minute I KNOW I read that post!!lol..and what do you think it made me do..several double takes and searching and seeing a different post than what I gave you...made me think and think and think..lol X

[Texas48]

I noticed in a lot of her pictures she had on what looked like gold jewelry. I guess it stood out because my grandchildren have always been given a cross at birth by me. They wore them home from the hospital and we just keep changing the chains as they grow.The item mentioned by TN was *never* released to the media was it..? I do not remember seeing/hearing much more about it.

[Texas48]

sorry now I am quoting myself.....it is what first brought speculation to the board that whoever took her knew to take the item, therefore must have known Haleigh and how special it was to herHad me going there for a second X..Read the post and then looked at poster's name..lol..lol with ya.

[Texas48]

sorry now I am quoting myself.....it is what first brought speculation to the board that whoever took her knew to take the item, therefore must have known Haleigh and how special it was to herand I do recall we tried to think of anything/everything. I always kept thinking lE would release that tid bit..but they didn't.

[Texas48]

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You're welcome. I got a feeling ths guy holds all the answers. jmoWas glad I saw your post last night and was so excited to pass it on to X..she has said from the beginning that LE needed to locate CR..her theory has always been a good one.imo

[Texas48]

see I think there is definately a probability that he could be involved somehow, it would explain so many things IMO. It could be why LE is being so quiet about him, they know, but don't know where he & Haleigh are, KWIM?YOU have never given up on your thoughts about this guy and I give you lots of credit for always bringing him back up..mo

[Texas48]

I know thans Tex explained that some time after I read it some posts were deleted so when Patricia went back the post numbers had changed, so at least I know I'm not seeing thingsand I did give you the correct post # after that didn't I..? That was this morning and alot has happened since then..lol.

[Texas48]

they have been tight lipped about him, insinuating he is not a suspect which I find hard to believe since they haven't been able to question him. Would they say that to throw him off track? try to bring him out?I certainly agree with you X and I don't see how he could NOT be a suspect. He has family right there..he was there and left (so the family says) 4 days before Haleigh went missing..Is that right X? 4 days?

[Riverwalk!]

Is Crystal's fathers name SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS? http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_menu.php Sheffield%Johnny%

Yes, that is Crystal Sheffield's father. He was married to Nancy Marie Johns and then she married Bruce A. Griffis.

[teresa]

I certainly agree with you X and I don't see how he could NOT be a suspect. He has family right there..he was there and left (so the family says) 4 days before Haleigh went missing..Is that right X? 4 days?

Hi Texas. I think he went missing on Feb 1, Super Bowl Day. He was my #1 suspect for a while but I'm not sure he could hide out this long. I have read that sexual predators tend to hang together after they've been in prison so I'm wondering if he met up with someone to help him.

There is also that SO Loucakis (sp?) that was arrested about a week or so after Haleigh went missing for being outside his area. He keeps having his hearing put off and is still in jail there. I wonder if he drove outside his area to pass her off? He made child porn videos, I believe, and there is a man who was released around the same time as him for the same thing and he lives fairly close by. I wish I could remember his name.

[Riverwalk!]

I certainly agree with you X and I don't see how he could NOT be a suspect. He has family right there..he was there and left (so the family says) 4 days before Haleigh went missing..Is that right X? 4 days?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090214/ARTICLES/902141003/0/NEWS

Sexual predator missing

By Austin L. Miller
Staff writer

Published: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:32 a.m.
OCALA - Marion County sheriff's deputies are looking for a sexual predator who has been missing since Feb. 1.


Deputies say Chad Eugene Reynolds, 25, left his mother's home at 3 Bay Court Run in Ocklawaha on that Sunday to watch the Super Bowl at a local bar.

That was the last time anyone reported seeing him.

[JackiBlu]

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090214/ARTICLES/902141003/0/NEWS

Sexual predator missing

By Austin L. Miller
Staff writer

Published: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:32 a.m.
OCALA - Marion County sheriff's deputies are looking for a sexual predator who has been missing since Feb. 1.


Deputies say Chad Eugene Reynolds, 25, left his mother's home at 3 Bay Court Run in Ocklawaha on that Sunday to watch the Super Bowl at a local bar.

That was the last time anyone reported seeing him.


Thank you Riverwalk for all the links!!!!!!!!

[Riverwalk!]

Thank you Riverwalk for all the links!!!!!!!!

YW.

The link about TN talking about the item missing was in the Palatka Daily News on March 6th. That link is now archived and cost $ to access it. Our threads here are gone because of bannings.

Rephrasing what I copied to my "way back machine" where I save entire articles:

FWIW here is what i saved:
The missing item belongs to Haleigh, she said. "It's something that should always be there for her," she said.
Neves said she could not explain what the item was because of the ongoing investigation. Shauland said he had no idea what Neves was talking about, when authorities removed items as evidence a receipt for each item was issued to the family.

:shrug: I still have no clue what is was. JMO

[JackiBlu]

http://www.shadowscope.com/archives/2009/02/where_is_chad_reynolds.php

You would think, that LE would have scoured the area where that car was broken down. Well, just for starters anyway.

He is still on my radar but not as much as RC is. I listed to the blogtalkradio with cobra and he claimed that a bit ago RC called him late at night, he had heard "noises" and didn't want to call LE so he called him instead.

I think RC is the one afraid of what goes bump in the night.
Oh is that a cop at my door? I dont know if all of you listen to the blogrtalk radio shows there are several though that are following this case. Cobra claimed on last weeks show that RC, has not acted in any way like any other grieving father he's ever seen act. Even his own kids asked him "would you do this or that if it were Me..." etc.

It was interesting.

Guess we listened to two different interviews. I don't recall Cobra saying anything about "noises".

Everything Cobra has said concerening Ron is his opinion only. I will wait for any reports from LE before believing Cobra.

JMO

[Riverwalk!]

Going back to our old threads:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=348924
#18
Fox news: police are checking time sheets and video cameras to see if the dad was actually at work when he said he was.

I totally forgot about the vid. cams at his workplace. DUH!!

BBL or so I hope.

[E-U-R]

Interesting question.


I don't know but guess they could check dr's and pharmacies in areas where relatives live. She would have to be seen to get prescriptions so they would have a name to look for to rule in or out the possibility.

Definitely have no medical experience but from what I have read about Turner's syndrome... you either have it bad or the effects are minimal... I could be wrong but when you have it bad you are almost bedridden and Haleigh does not appear to have gotten the bad end of it... if you don't have it bad then all medical treatment is as a preventative measure... like cycles of hormones to make a female patient grow a little taller since shortness is one of the non life threatening side effects... so from what I have read I am now wondering if her meds are all optional... maybe she doesn't "need" them

[Texas48]

Hi Texas. I think he went missing on Feb 1, Super Bowl Day. He was my #1 suspect for a while but I'm not sure he could hide out this long. I have read that sexual predators tend to hang together after they've been in prison so I'm wondering if he met up with someone to help him.

There is also that SO Loucakis (sp?) that was arrested about a week or so after Haleigh went missing for being outside his area. He keeps having his hearing put off and is still in jail there. I wonder if he drove outside his area to pass her off? He made child porn videos, I believe, and there is a man who was released around the same time as him for the same thing and he lives fairly close by. I wish I could remember his name.I do Know Madame X has always kept the thought of CR..he was not discussed as some others in this case as LE did not consider him a suspect..but..heck LE has said NO ONE has been cleared so..why not take a second and third look at CR..? kwim? and then there is Loucakis..you have a good senerio in your thoughts..and making child porn videos..????....it could have happened just as you said. ALL good thoughts for good discussions imo.

[panache]

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854

Haleigh Cummings Candlelight Vigil

[Texas48]

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090214/ARTICLES/902141003/0/NEWS

Sexual predator missing

By Austin L. Miller
Staff writer

Published: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 6:32 a.m.
OCALA - Marion County sheriff's deputies are looking for a sexual predator who has been missing since Feb. 1.


Deputies say Chad Eugene Reynolds, 25, left his mother's home at 3 Bay Court Run in Ocklawaha on that Sunday to watch the Super Bowl at a local bar.

That was the last time anyone reported seeing him.
C. Reynolds last seen on Sunday and Haleigh went missing sometime Monday night and Tuesday morning no later that 3:27am.:glare:

[Texas48]

Thank you Riverwalk for all the links!!!!!!!!
Ditto Jacki..I responded to Riverwalk's post and forgot to thank her for the links..TY many times over for the links and sharing.

[panache]

We Have No Reason To Believe CR Is Connectd With Haleigh Cummings Disappearance.


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160908/1002/NEWS01?Title=More_information_about_the_missing_Ma rion_County_sex_offender_

[Texas48]

YW.

The link about TN talking about the item missing was in the Palatka Daily News on March 6th. That link is now archived and cost $ to access it. Our threads here are gone because of bannings.

Rephrasing what I copied to my "way back machine" where I save entire articles:

FWIW here is what i saved:
The missing item belongs to Haleigh, she said. "It's something that should always be there for her," she said.
Neves said she could not explain what the item was because of the ongoing investigation. Shauland said he had no idea what Neves was talking about, when authorities removed items as evidence a receipt for each item was issued to the family.

:shrug: I still have no clue what is was. JMOIts amazing what we forget..I remember so well TN making the ref. to the missing item..The bolded is what I completely forgot and ONLY remembered it when you said it. TY..Just shows how much info one can forget and how helpfull to go back and read and read..:thumbsup:for you.

[panache]

Rare Genes May Identify Haleigh Cummings


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090302/ARTICLES/903021000

[Pat]

Guess we listened to two different interviews. I don't recall Cobra saying anything about "noises".

Everything Cobra has said concerening Ron is his opinion only. I will wait for any reports from LE before believing Cobra.

JMO

TJ Hart and Cobra have both been making claims about how fast this case would be winding up since they both got involved. Nothing either has said has ever materialized. They talk about these shadowy witnesses, but what are they witnesses to? So far, nothing to do with Haleigh going missing.

Both have an inflated sense of their own importance and I don't believe either of them. Or Art Harris. The three of them are gossip mongers.

I'm waiting for LE to come out with an official statement. Given the involvement of the FBI at the beginning of this case, if there was any evidence Ron or Crystal were directly involved with Haleigh going missing, we'd have heard about it by now. Same goes for Misty.

Someone took that child, but I don't think any of the above three were directly involved or have knowledge of who it is. Misty may not have been there when Haleigh went missing...I don't know and neither does anyone else. I believe if LE had witnesses that Misty was off somewhere, they'd have released the information by now.

As far as lack of national coverage because of disapproval of Ron, the same surely could be said about Crystal's behavior, starting with the Geraldo fiasco.

There are no leads, LE isn't releasing any information that would spark national interest. The legitimate press just isn't interested in getting down into the mud and repeating gossip, innuendo, opinion and speculation that can't be backed up with proof - they are leaving that to the tabloid shows, message boards and Art Harris. This case is going cold and I wonder how many people would even recognize the name Haleigh Cummings now, if asked.

The whole thing is a shame. If Ron and Crystal had continuously presented themselves as united, grieving parents and done nothing but talk, talk, talk about Haleigh, who knows where this would have gone. Finger-pointing, accusations and gossip took the focus off Haleigh, and that is a terrible shame.

[JackiBlu]

TJ Hart and Cobra have both been making claims about how fast this case would be winding up since they both got involved. Nothing either has said has ever materialized. They talk about these shadowy witnesses, but what are they witnesses to? So far, nothing to do with Haleigh going missing.

Both have an inflated sense of their own importance and I don't believe either of them. Or Art Harris. The three of them are gossip mongers.

I'm waiting for LE to come out with an official statement. Given the involvement of the FBI at the beginning of this case, if there was any evidence Ron or Crystal were directly involved with Haleigh going missing, we'd have heard about it by now. Same goes for Misty.

Someone took that child, but I don't think any of the above three were directly involved or have knowledge of who it is. Misty may not have been there when Haleigh went missing...I don't know and neither does anyone else. I believe if LE had witnesses that Misty was off somewhere, they'd have released the information by now.

As far as lack of national coverage because of disapproval of Ron, the same surely could be said about Crystal's behavior, starting with the Geraldo fiasco.

There are no leads, LE isn't releasing any information that would spark national interest. The legitimate press just isn't interested in getting down into the mud and repeating gossip, innuendo, opinion and speculation that can't be backed up with proof - they are leaving that to the tabloid shows, message boards and Art Harris. This case is going cold and I wonder how many people would even recognize the name Haleigh Cummings now, if asked.

The whole thing is a shame. If Ron and Crystal had continuously presented themselves as united, grieving parents and done nothing but talk, talk, talk about Haleigh, who knows where this would have gone. Finger-pointing, accusations and gossip took the focus off Haleigh, and that is a terrible shame.

Great Post. ITA

[?noanswer]

My bold;

Please check the court documents for custody, page 3; the Judge asked if there was any question that Mr. Cummings is the biological Father of BOTH children.

http://www.cbs47.com/media/news/e/4/2/e42078af-0580-47ab-8b13-b60c9d0f9ac3/cummings1.pdf

Please don't try to start rumors before reading the custody documents.

JMO

I think that I read in this document that it said it was another hearing because CS said she did not receive notice for the first one because it was sent to the wrong address. If this is the case, why does CS say she didn't get a fair shake because she didn't receive the notice? JMO

[calamitygirl]

Good evening. I must say today has been a very pleasant and honest postings of everyone today. I also want to say thank you for the links. I have enjoyed reading today.

[?noanswer]

TJ Hart and Cobra have both been making claims about how fast this case would be winding up since they both got involved. Nothing either has said has ever materialized. They talk about these shadowy witnesses, but what are they witnesses to? So far, nothing to do with Haleigh going missing.

Both have an inflated sense of their own importance and I don't believe either of them. Or Art Harris. The three of them are gossip mongers.

I'm waiting for LE to come out with an official statement. Given the involvement of the FBI at the beginning of this case, if there was any evidence Ron or Crystal were directly involved with Haleigh going missing, we'd have heard about it by now. Same goes for Misty.

Someone took that child, but I don't think any of the above three were directly involved or have knowledge of who it is. Misty may not have been there when Haleigh went missing...I don't know and neither does anyone else. I believe if LE had witnesses that Misty was off somewhere, they'd have released the information by now.

As far as lack of national coverage because of disapproval of Ron, the same surely could be said about Crystal's behavior, starting with the Geraldo fiasco.

There are no leads, LE isn't releasing any information that would spark national interest. The legitimate press just isn't interested in getting down into the mud and repeating gossip, innuendo, opinion and speculation that can't be backed up with proof - they are leaving that to the tabloid shows, message boards and Art Harris. This case is going cold and I wonder how many people would even recognize the name Haleigh Cummings now, if asked.

The whole thing is a shame. If Ron and Crystal had continuously presented themselves as united, grieving parents and done nothing but talk, talk, talk about Haleigh, who knows where this would have gone. Finger-pointing, accusations and gossip took the focus off Haleigh, and that is a terrible shame.

I agree with your post. Just want to add the custody issue started at this time also has contributed to lack of coverage. The national media does not want to get involved in this mess, so it is left up to the 3 musketeers. I agree with your description of them, also. JMO

[JackiBlu]

I think that I read in this document that it said it was another hearing because CS said she did not receive notice for the first one because it was sent to the wrong address. If this is the case, why does CS say she didn't get a fair shake because she didn't receive the notice? JMO

I don't know why CS claimed that because the Judge said they would redo the custody hearing with her present; which is exactly what they did.

JMO

[Texas48]

TJ Hart and Cobra have both been making claims about how fast this case would be winding up since they both got involved. Nothing either has said has ever materialized. They talk about these shadowy witnesses, but what are they witnesses to? So far, nothing to do with Haleigh going missing.

Both have an inflated sense of their own importance and I don't believe either of them. Or Art Harris. The three of them are gossip mongers.

I'm waiting for LE to come out with an official statement. Given the involvement of the FBI at the beginning of this case, if there was any evidence Ron or Crystal were directly involved with Haleigh going missing, we'd have heard about it by now. Same goes for Misty.

Someone took that child, but I don't think any of the above three were directly involved or have knowledge of who it is. Misty may not have been there when Haleigh went missing...I don't know and neither does anyone else. I believe if LE had witnesses that Misty was off somewhere, they'd have released the information by now.

As far as lack of national coverage because of disapproval of Ron, the same surely could be said about Crystal's behavior, starting with the Geraldo fiasco.

There are no leads, LE isn't releasing any information that would spark national interest. The legitimate press just isn't interested in getting down into the mud and repeating gossip, innuendo, opinion and speculation that can't be backed up with proof - they are leaving that to the tabloid shows, message boards and Art Harris. This case is going cold and I wonder how many people would even recognize the name Haleigh Cummings now, if asked.

The whole thing is a shame. If Ron and Crystal had continuously presented themselves as united, grieving parents and done nothing but talk, talk, talk about Haleigh, who knows where this would have gone. Finger-pointing, accusations and gossip took the focus off Haleigh, and that is a terrible shame.Excellent post Pat..just excellent.

[JackiBlu]

Good evening. I must say today has been a very pleasant and honest postings of everyone today. I also want to say thank you for the links. I have enjoyed reading today.

Yes it is much different than yesterday. Thank goodness. I just read yesterday; no way was I going to post.

[JackiBlu]

I posted about the possibility of camera's awhile back. Since we know they have cameras I'm sure police have viewed them and know if Ron left or not. IMO it's safe to say he never left work that night or police would have been questioning him daily and called him a POI.

I agree bookie. That's why LE said they were satisfied with Ron being at work when he said he was.

JMO

[JackiBlu]

YW.

The link about TN talking about the item missing was in the Palatka Daily News on March 6th. That link is now archived and cost $ to access it. Our threads here are gone because of bannings.

Rephrasing what I copied to my "way back machine" where I save entire articles:

FWIW here is what i saved:
The missing item belongs to Haleigh, she said. "It's something that should always be there for her," she said.
Neves said she could not explain what the item was because of the ongoing investigation. Shauland said he had no idea what Neves was talking about, when authorities removed items as evidence a receipt for each item was issued to the family.

:shrug: I still have no clue what is was. JMO

So much from way back that we don't remember. One day when nothing is going on think I will go back and read all the links from the very beginning just to refresh my memory.

I have an opinion on what TN was talking about but I'm not sure about stating it since I don't have any facts to back up my opinion; and don't want to start any rumors.



JMO

[Texas48]

Yes it is much different than yesterday. Thank goodness. I just read yesterday; no way was I going to post.it has been a good day with good discussions all the way around..I hope it will last through the night..and I do hope we can discuss CR again tomorrow as Madame X will be here and she knows much about him...

[CANDYKISSES]

Definitely have no medical experience but from what I have read about Turner's syndrome... you either have it bad or the effects are minimal... I could be wrong but when you have it bad you are almost bedridden and Haleigh does not appear to have gotten the bad end of it... if you don't have it bad then all medical treatment is as a preventative measure... like cycles of hormones to make a female patient grow a little taller since shortness is one of the non life threatening side effects... so from what I have read I am now wondering if her meds are all optional... maybe she doesn't "need" them

There is a link to what Teresa Neves said about HALEIGH NOT BEING ON MEDICATION for TURNERS on today's thread above. :sneaky:
JMO

[Texas48]

I agree bookie. That's why LE said they were satisfied with Ron being at work when he said he was.

JMOI do believe LE knows every minute of Ron's time before he went to work..at work..and after work. Not for any other reason but as we know LE will check out family members *first* before they move on to others. if LE would give us/media one little piece of the puzzle. just give something..

[CANDYKISSES]

Guess we listened to two different interviews. I don't recall Cobra saying anything about "noises".

Everything Cobra has said concerening Ron is his opinion only. I will wait for any reports from LE before believing Cobra.

JMO

The would you, could you was fresh out of the story about Teresa losing him in the woods, NOT SO MUCH IMO. :rolleyes:

He talks to hear himself IMOO. :thumbdown:

[TaraCrazyHair]

I do believe LE knows every minute of Ron's time before he went to work..at work..and after work. Not for any other reason but as we know LE will check out family members *first* before they move on to others. if LE would give us/media one little piece of the puzzle. just give something..


Yet they refuse to clear him as a suspect ... very odd if they are satisfied he was at work when he said he was

Wonder what the hold up is

[JackiBlu]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=131177&catid=295

I decided today to try my best to go back to the beginning when Haleigh disappeared with an open mind. I have seen other's have had the same thoughts and with very little information being released I think this is as good of time as any.

I added a link to the top of this page that was dated 12/12/09

I have read over this article several times today and I still can not come up with a answer to why within two days of Haleigh missing, Misty has already changed her story and Ron is standing behind Misty.

I think this article is worth a second look and I would love to hear others opinions on this article.

I think the first few days so much misinformation was reported. In one media report from the beginning it said that there was another child in the home and stated that child was FEMALE. Another media report said Crystal was coming from Georgia were she lived. These are just a couple of things the media got wrong.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

I think that I read in this document that it said it was another hearing because CS said she did not receive notice for the first one because it was sent to the wrong address. If this is the case, why does CS say she didn't get a fair shake because she didn't receive the notice? JMO

Oh no, :w00t: you don't think she forgot to tell the truth, do you? :wink:

I can remember reading her contradictory statement and shaking my head when this all started heating up. There are many inconsistencies we've let slide if my memory serves me well. All the attention was being thrown on Ron and Misty as Crystal enjoyed a reprieve from any negative attention IMO.

[JackiBlu]

Yet they refuse to clear him as a suspect ... very odd if they are satisfied he was at work when he said he was

Wonder what the hold up is

My opinion on why LE has not come out and said to the public that anyone has been cleared, is to keep the person who took Haleigh believing they are safe and got away with it.


JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

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LE may just be saying this to flush CR out of hiding. This guy goes missing the day before Haleigh disappears? I cant buy that. Why else would this guy go into hiding? I cant believe that LE would think this guy is innocent. If they really thought he was truly missing while being innocent, they would treat his disappearance in a different manner. And i'm sure his mother would be on LE's butt to find her son. I know a lot of people dont agree with me but its my own opinion and i am sticking to it. They seriously need to find CR. JMO



I see the subject is back to Reynolds ... doesn't he live almost two hours away from Haleigh's home?

Did he travel that far on a daily basis to stalk and plan an abduction?

Unless there is a connection with him and the family, I do not see has a suspect in anyway

Not to mention he is missing himself, right?

[TaraCrazyHair]

My opinion on why LE has not come out and said to the public that anyone has been cleared, is to keep the person who took Haleigh believing they are safe and got away with it.


JMO

I don't know about that .. naming a suspect or two would allow the actual perp to let their guard down

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think the first few days so much misinformation was reported. In one media report from the beginning it said that there was another child in the home and stated that child was FEMALE. Another media report said Crystal was coming from Georgia were she lived. These are just a couple of things the media got wrong.

JMO


I agree, the media does misconstrue facts at times but a lot of the inconsistencies from Misty was not media error .. it was LE speaking live and Misty speaking live

[panache]

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LE may just be saying this to flush CR out of hiding. This guy goes missing the day before Haleigh disappears? I cant buy that. Why else would this guy go into hiding? I cant believe that LE would think this guy is innocent. If they really thought he was truly missing while being innocent, they would treat his disappearance in a different manner. And i'm sure his mother would be on LE's butt to find her son. I know a lot of people dont agree with me but its my own opinion and i am sticking to it. They seriously need to find CR. JMO

How would LE treat his disappearance *in a different manner* if he was truly innocent, I'm curious about your saying that.

Chad does have a stepmother and his biological dad that are on LE's butt to find him.

moo

[JackiBlu]

When Haleigh first went missing I only followed her story on the news channels. I was not aware the media had made mistakes in the beginning so thank you for that information.

I can find the links for you. Give me a little bit and I will.

[panache]

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They could start by putting out flyers. They could have a news conference to talk about Haleigh and mention that they r looking for CR so they can just question him. Is there a link to where his dad and stepmom r on LE's butt to find him? thanks
jmo

I do have soome info that I can't post here, but I will look through it to see if there is anything allowed.

I realize many seem to think there might be a connection to Haleigh case, but LE has said he is not.

The events in Chad's personal life around his disappearance according to his family, were upsetting to him. One being, his sister was killed in an auto accident.

Here is one article that should be ok to post from his uncle.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Missing-Predators-Family-Speaks-Out/3DjI6B_noU2xnGk_rEAUuA.cspx

[Texas48]

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Maybe CR knew people who was associated with Ron and Misty......or he had some friends in the area of where Haleigh lived. He wouldnt have had to travel back and forth on a regular basis to stalk Haleigh. It could take one time to see her in the neighborhood and kidnap her. I dont think he's missing.........i think he's in hiding. And i dont think he's dead. If he was really missing his mom would want LE to do somethng about it. Wouldnt u? I know i would. JMOI believe CR had relatives in the area where Ron and Misty lived and I believe it was even said that CR had visited his relatives..Travel..what SO would care how far they had to go for their victim? jmo

[calamitygirl]

I see the subject is back to Reynolds ... doesn't he live almost two hours away from Haleigh's home?

Did he travel that far on a daily basis to stalk and plan an abduction?

Unless there is a connection with him and the family, I do not see has a suspect in anyway

Not to mention he is missing himself, right?

TaraCrazyHair, I do not understand what distance has to do with it? I have seen documentaries where predators will travel. Discussions on here have been talked about Haleigh being missing the night after CR went missing.

[TaraCrazyHair]

TaraCrazyHair, I do not understand what distance has to do with it? I have seen documentaries where predators will travel. Discussions on here have been talked about Haleigh being missing the night after CR went missing.

But the circumstances of his disappearance had him listed as endangered ... so somewhere, somehow, he is most likely a victim of somebody himself

And the predators who travel usually make their connections on the internet ... I don't see Haleigh as a child allowed to chat away on the internet?

[E-U-R]

they have been tight lipped about him, insinuating he is not a suspect which I find hard to believe since they haven't been able to question him. Would they say that to throw him off track? try to bring him out?

Is there any info available on chad r...
like does he have any psychological issues other then sex crime?
and does anyone know the circumstances of his crime?... ie age sex pysical assault...
a link would be great if any one has one...
I'm sure most of you have heard at some point how sex assaults are never actually about the sex more for power... obviously something has happened in their life that made the SO feel powerless (commonly victims of sex abuse themselves)...
my point here is.... is there any way to find out anything about his personal life/past records before the sex act that he was found guilty of?
His previous hangouts?
his places of arrest?
his relationship if any with his victim?
you all seem interested in this chad r so my honest opinion would be if your going to wonder then these are questions that need to be answered...
a leopard doesn't change his spots and if chad r has anything to do with this then you need to take a look at his whole life...
if he did decide to re-offend with haleigh as a victim (or any one else for that matter since he is still missing) then you need to figure out what set him off so to speak and what he would do in reaction to the trigger that set him off?
A couple of weeks ago they found a 26 year old SO that "disappeared briefly" they found him with his "weapon" cut off...I don't have a link and I don't recall if he was found alive or dead... he supposedly did it to himself... I'm sure if you google it you will find the article as it was a legit news source that I heard it from it was news on tv actually

[?noanswer]

I do have soome info that I can't post here, but I will look through it to see if there is anything allowed.

I realize many seem to think there might be a connection to Haleigh case, but LE has said he is not.

The events in Chad's personal life around his disappearance according to his family, were upsetting to him. One being, his sister was killed in an auto accident.

Here is one article that should be ok to post from his uncle.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Missing-Predators-Family-Speaks-Out/3DjI6B_noU2xnGk_rEAUuA.cspx


I think it is easy for us posters to forget that no matter what the crime, there is always a family that is hurting for/because of the person who did the crime. JMO

[panache]

Thank you, I have slowly been going through the links on this site. Any additional links would be great.

This is a very interesting dated article. Lots of info there, including Misty saying that Amber's child was Ron's son. By the time of this article Misty had then morphed in Gram's Sykes visit, which she hadn't mentioned in her first interviews.



http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back?page=1

[TaraCrazyHair]

His grandparents live in Putnam Co. His crime was committed in Putnam Co. He has ties to the area.


What were his ties on Super Bowl Sunday when all his events were accounted for until his car was found in Marion County but no Chad in the car?

Also, his conviction at 18/19 was for armed burglary and Lewd and Lascivious Molestation for a child 12 or under ... which is not rape or sexual intercourse .. basically he touched a child on the butt or breasts

Not a recipe for snatching a child in the middle of the night two hours away?


Moo

LE discounted him as well as I do

[E-U-R]

I do have soome info that I can't post here, but I will look through it to see if there is anything allowed.

I realize many seem to think there might be a connection to Haleigh case, but LE has said he is not.

The events in Chad's personal life around his disappearance according to his family, were upsetting to him. One being, his sister was killed in an auto accident.

Here is one article that should be ok to post from his uncle.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Missing-Predators-Family-Speaks-Out/3DjI6B_noU2xnGk_rEAUuA.cspx

Okay I am learning to start at the end and go backwards... I just got here and spent so long asking questions that i didn't realize you all were answering them on the next page....DUH

[TaraCrazyHair]

This is a very interesting dated article. Lots of info there, including Misty saying that Amber's child was Ron's son. By the time of this article Misty had then morphed in Gram's Sykes visit, which she hadn't mentioned in her first interviews.



http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back?page=1

I had forgotten about the issue with the pink shirt

[panache]

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They could start by putting out flyers. They could have a news conference to talk about Haleigh and mention that they r looking for CR so they can just question him. Is there a link to where his dad and stepmom r on LE's butt to find him? thanks
jmo

Here's a link to his sister's accident.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16402313/detail.html

LE wouldn't bother putting out flyers or news conferances if they are convinced that Chad is not involved in this case. And I do believe they have said that, and have discounted him as a suspect.

moo

[?noanswer]

I had forgotten about the issue with the pink shirt


Had LE been in the house prior to the walk thru with Misty/Ron? If so, I wonder if they had already noticed the shirt and just left it there to see what Misty's reaction would be. Course I think she said she was the one that showed it to them. JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

Okay I am learning to start at the end and go backwards... I just got here and spent so long asking questions that i didn't realize you all were answering them on the next page....DUH

I always start on the last post and move backwards ... easier that way

(:

[?noanswer]

Here's a link to his sister's accident.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16402313/detail.html

LE wouldn't bother putting out flyers or news conferances if they are convinced that Chad is not involved in this case. And I do believe they have said that, and have discounted him as a suspect.

moo

This is another family with a heavy load to bear. So sad. JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

Had LE been in the house prior to the walk thru with Misty/Ron? If so, I wonder if they had already noticed the shirt and just left it there to see what Misty's reaction would be. Course I think she said she was the one that showed it to them. JMO


LE would have walked through the home very thoroughly that night

If I recall, Misty seen the shirt in the laundry basket .. not on top, right?

[?noanswer]

LE would have walked through the home very thoroughly that night

If I recall, Misty seen the shirt in the laundry basket .. not on top, right?

Don't know the answer to that. JMO

[panache]

I think it is easy for us posters to forget that no matter what the crime, there is always a family that is hurting for/because of the person who did the crime. JMO

That's sweet of you to say no. Chad's stepmother and Dad were anxious for Chad to move from Fla to where they reside out of state. Chad was planning on doing that when he disappeared. Chad's Fla home life, according to his stepmom, wasn't exactly a day at the beach. (my description). The stepmom seems to truly care for Chad and accepts and understands what his crime was all about.

moo

[TaraCrazyHair]

Don't know the answer to that. JMO

Somebody may remember -- I am thinking it was in the basket as opposed to tossed on top of the basket

Just another inconsistent story from "Your daughter is missing" Misty and I don't know, I was at work" Ron

Moo

[seeker]

My opinion on why LE has not come out and said to the public that anyone has been cleared, is to keep the person who took Haleigh believing they are safe and got away with it.


JMO

<my underlining>

Evening,

I agree with you.

Who could "the person" be?

[panache]

Somebody may remember -- I am thinking it was in the basket as opposed to tossed on top of the basket

Just another inconsistent story from "Your daughter is missing" Misty and I don't know, I was at work" Ron

Moo

Tara

I just did a search on the forum here, using just the words *pink shirt*. If you go to the Feb.20 part 2 thread, post 11, there is something a poster saw on NG about the pink shirt. I didn't know if I am allowed to copy a post, so I am giving you the skinny where you can find it.

[E-U-R]

Here's a link to his sister's accident.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16402313/detail.html

LE wouldn't bother putting out flyers or news conferances if they are convinced that Chad is not involved in this case. And I do believe they have said that, and have discounted him as a suspect.

moo

Here is a picture of her in her aunt's myspace (first name joanna not sure of the aunts name but she has a sister with the last name register) photos.... not sure if you will be able to see it or if you have to be logged in at myspace.. if you can get in look around
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=185931607&albumID=1773343&imageID=25398585

here is danyell's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/yanyella42664

here is a pic of chad r and his mom from her photos
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=312530554&albumID=734453&imageID=4675122

This maybe off topic a little but myspace is always a good way to find out who is networking with who

I don't have strong feelings towards him being the one but i also don't understand how they can rule him out if they can't even find him...

[E-U-R]

I believe CR had relatives in the area where Ron and Misty lived and I believe it was even said that CR had visited his relatives..Travel..what SO would care how far they had to go for their victim? jmo
so far i figured out that he has relatives in jacksonville...gainsville... and lake county... but still digging

[JackiBlu]

LE would have walked through the home very thoroughly that night

If I recall, Misty seen the shirt in the laundry basket .. not on top, right?

The article referenced said; She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back?page=1

[seeker]

Did something happen recently to bring Chad Reynolds back as a suspect? Isn't he one of the few people that law enforcement has cleared, that they have stated has no connection? Since he is labeled a sex offender they would not lie about this, leaving others in danger. To me it makes little sense to look at him; a distraction, in my opinion.

In looking at this crime, wouldn't it make sense to start from the most simple, logical explanation, however uncomfortable that is, then work outward from there? Kinda like troubleshooting: Start with the obvious, rule out the simple and work into the complex, if need be.

This little girl disappeared from her home, under the care of her father and his girlfriend. There is absolutely no statement from law enforcement saying that either of them are cleared, that either of their timelines are confirmed. Never has anyone in authority made a blanket statement that Ron was at work continuously from a certain time until another certain time.

From the very beginning many facts pointed only at them. (I read the 2/12/09 FirstCoastNews Story and realized just how focused they were from the very beginning on this couple. Thanks to the poster who shared it and asked for input. The short, silent video with it was interesting to watch).

Why pass over the child's caretakers from the time period she was last seen, without digging into their myriad changing stories? Than, once sure that they are innocent of any wrongdoing against this child, move out from there?

These are my thoughts, feelings, and opinions concerning Haleigh.

[panache]

Here is a picture of her in her aunt's myspace (first name joanna not sure of the aunts name but she has a sister with the last name register) photos.... not sure if you will be able to see it or if you have to be logged in at myspace.. if you can get in look around
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=185931607&albumID=1773343&imageID=25398585

here is danyell's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/yanyella42664

here is a pic of chad r and his mom from her photos
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=312530554&albumID=734453&imageID=4675122

This maybe off topic a little but myspace is always a good way to find out who is networking with who

I don't have strong feelings towards him being the one but i also don't understand how they can rule him out if they can't even find him...

I know many people feel he shouldn't be ruled out. Once LE changed his status to endangered, I figured they had some information we aren't privy to. There is a dynamic surrounding the home life there and a questionable character or two. I happen to think that what was going on with Chad and those people is what caused his disappearance, and who knows, his death.


I understand that photo of his mom and him was taken while he was incarcerated.
moo

[JackiBlu]

<my underlining>

Evening,

I agree with you.

Who could "the person" be?





I don't have a clue seeker.

[E-U-R]

I know many people feel he shouldn't be ruled out. Once LE changed his status to endangered, I figured they had some information we aren't privy to. There is a dynamic surrounding the home life there and a questionable character or two. I happen to think that what was going on with Chad and those people is what caused his disappearance, and who knows, his death.


I understand that photo of his mom and him was taken while he was incarcerated.
moo

My thought on hearing "endangered" is he is a danger to himself possibly... he was obviously under a lot of stress at the time of his disappearance maybe he snapped and is on the edge whether he took haleigh or not... that is just my interpretation of him being deemed that... I don't see why else he would be called that unless LE knows exactly who was a danger to him because unless they have a suspect in mind as to who possibly may have harmed him then that is a really broad statement or classification to make... who if not himself is posing the danger? the entire public?
whenever there is a situation where someone takes off with the threat of suicide they are usually called dangerous like BOLO dangerous possibly armed... they are called that because when you are ready to off yourself you usually don't care who you take with you in the process...
unless LE has some evidence as to who supposedly endangered him then i stand on my opinion that they meant a danger to himself

[seeker]

Your bolded line from Riverwalk!:
Shauland said he had no idea what Neves was talking about, when authorities removed items as evidence a receipt for each item was issued to the family.

Shauland wouldn't have cataloged 'this missing item' nor given a reciept.....
the item was missing from Haleigh's home.......

The way I remember it, Teresa said the item had gone missing, not with Haleigh, but after the home was released from the police back to the family. In other words, the item was still there after she vanished, it was seen by the family, but once the home was released back to the family, she said that it was gone.

I remember a discussion about this here, and I wondered at the time if, when Ron and whoever (I believe it was his father) went into the home briefly to grab some clothes before the womenfolk got it ready for the media, had taken it. (convoluted sentence). Meaning, Ron took it as soon as home was released and before his mother and grandmother went in. It was the only thing that made snese to me and still makes sense. Not WHY, but the facts point to it.

my thoughts and opinions on this

[panache]

Did something happen recently to bring Chad Reynolds back as a suspect? Isn't he one of the few people that law enforcement has cleared, that they have stated has no connection? Since he is labeled a sex offender they would not lie about this, leaving others in danger. To me it makes little sense to look at him; a distraction, in my opinion.

In looking at this crime, wouldn't it make sense to start from the most simple, logical explanation, however uncomfortable that is, then work outward from there? Kinda like troubleshooting: Start with the obvious, rule out the simple and work into the complex, if need be.

This little girl disappeared from her home, under the care of her father and his girlfriend. There is absolutely no statement from law enforcement saying that either of them are cleared, that either of their timelines are confirmed. Never has anyone in authority made a blanket statement that Ron was at work continuously from a certain time until another certain time.

From the very beginning many facts pointed only at them. (I read the 2/12/09 FirstCoastNews Story and realized just how focused they were from the very beginning on this couple. Thanks to the poster who shared it and asked for input. The short, silent video with it was interesting to watch).

Why pass over the child's caretakers from the time period she was last seen, without digging into their myriad changing stories? Than, once sure that they are innocent of any wrongdoing against this child, move out from there?

These are my thoughts, feelings, and opinions concerning Haleigh.



Your right seeker. Chad Reynolds is a distraction. LE has cleared 44 SO and Chad happens to be another. Chad's diappearance was before Haleigh disappeared. The fact that he has GP's that live nearby, imo, is just a coincidence. Gee, there are two or three that live just around the corner from Haleigh, doesn't mean once they are cleared, they should be held suspect. The fourth one with close proximity, and even alledgely visited that trailer should be more suspect than CR. And that is Sapp.

I think some people for their own comfort zone can't fathom that there is a strong possibilty that someone related and very close to Haleigh caused her disappearance. Color me jaded, but I believe that's the only possiblity.

Bringing in Chad to the storyline takes the focus off where this case should be going.

I have to chuckle at the comments when TH, Cobra or Art make a statement, and some say, I don't believe it, I'll wait till I hear it from LE.

Well LE has said Chad is not a suspect, and still, some don't believe it.

Go figure.
moo

[panache]

His status hasn't been endangered for a few weeks now. It went back to absconded. IIRC it as only endangered for a couple of weeks.


Name: Chad Eugene Reynolds
Status: Absconded

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/offenderSearchNav.do

Thanks for the info bookie. Interesting. Wonder why.

[diamond]

Your right seeker. Chad Reynolds is a distraction. LE has cleared 44 SO and Chad happens to be another. Chad's diappearance was before Haleigh disappeared. The fact that he has GP's that live nearby, imo, is just a coincidence. Gee, there are two or three that live just around the corner from Haleigh, doesn't mean once they are cleared, they should be held suspect. The fourth one with close proximity, and even alledgely visited that trailer should be more suspect than CR. And that is Sapp.

I think some people for their own comfort zone can't fathom that there is a strong possibilty that someone related and very close to Haleigh caused her disappearance. Color me jaded, but I believe that's the only possiblity.

Bringing in Chad to the storyline takes the focus off where this case should be going.

I have to chuckle at the comments when TH, Cobra or Art make a statement, and some say, I don't believe it, I'll wait till I hear it from LE.

Well LE has said Chad is not a suspect, and still, some don't believe it.

Go figure.
moo

ITA Seeker and Panache

LE has said it is not a stranger abduction. And it is obvious that the focus is on Ron and Misty.

MOO

[seeker]

My thought on hearing "endangered" is he is a danger to himself possibly... he was obviously under a lot of stress at the time of his disappearance maybe he snapped and is on the edge whether he took haleigh or not... that is just my interpretation of him being deemed that... I don't see why else he would be called that unless LE knows exactly who was a danger to him because unless they have a suspect in mind as to who possibly may have harmed him then that is a really broad statement or classification to make... who if not himself is posing the danger? the entire public?
whenever there is a situation where someone takes off with the threat of suicide they are usually called dangerous like BOLO dangerous possibly armed... they are called that because when you are ready to off yourself you usually don't care who you take with you in the process...
unless LE has some evidence as to who supposedly endangered him then i stand on my opinion that they meant a danger to himself

This is a bit off topic, but I want to comment on the part I bolded in your post:

I realize that you used the word "usually," but I disagree that a person who is despondent and ready to commit suicide doesn't care who they take with them. Suicide is an act against oneself and is not normally intended to cause violence against others, though it of course hurts their loved ones.

Just felt the need to comment on that and add my opinion.

[E-U-R]

The way I remember it, Teresa said the item had gone missing, not with Haleigh, but after the home was released from the police back to the family. In other words, the item was still there after she vanished, it was seen by the family, but once the home was released back to the family, she said that it was gone.

I remember a discussion about this here, and I wondered at the time if, when Ron and whoever (I believe it was his father) went into the home briefly to grab some clothes before the womenfolk got it ready for the media, had taken it. (convoluted sentence). Meaning, Ron took it as soon as home was released and before his mother and grandmother went in. It was the only thing that made snese to me and still makes sense. Not WHY, but the facts point to it.

my thoughts and opinions on this

This might add more confusion and I don't have a link but I remember early on it was video on a news station but with the voice in the background describing how Crystal had spoken with Misty and Misty was begging her not to blame her and crystal asked if she could have one of haleighs toys and misty said i don't know i'll have to ask ron... did ron say no and crystal took it anyways... could they be talking about a favorite toy of hers this also makes sense if whatever it was went missing after she did

[diamond]

This might add more confusion and I don't have a link but I remember early on it was video on a news station but with the voice in the background describing how Crystal had spoken with Misty and Misty was begging her not to blame her and crystal asked if she could have one of haleighs toys and misty said i don't know i'll have to ask ron... did ron say no and crystal took it anyways... could they be talking about a favorite toy of hers this also makes sense if whatever it was went missing after she did

What is the missing item?

[panache]

That is so far off, where did you get that?

moo

There was a media report that Crystal went to view the trailer for the first time, and while there asked Misty for a rememberance of Haleigh. Misty replied that she would have to ask Ron. That according to the media report, did happen.

moo

[seeker]

This might add more confusion and I don't have a link but I remember early on it was video on a news station but with the voice in the background describing how Crystal had spoken with Misty and Misty was begging her not to blame her and crystal asked if she could have one of haleighs toys and misty said i don't know i'll have to ask ron... did ron say no and crystal took it anyways... could they be talking about a favorite toy of hers this also makes sense if whatever it was went missing after she did

It was reported that Crystal did not take anything, as Misty would not allow it without Ron's permission. This is how the story went and it was never said by Ron or Misty that Crystal did take anything.

my opinion

[E-U-R]

What is the missing item?

No clue some people are suggesting that something was missing that haleigh always had with her supposedly according to ggs and then someone else interpreted her words in context i guess to mean that whatever was missing was taken after haleigh was missing... this just reminded me of the early stories of crystal being denied a toy of haleighs when she asked ron if she could take it with her after she was allowed in the trailer for the first time... she had a conversation with misty about the toy and misty said she would have to ask ron

[Lovethechild]

Makes sense to me as well Seeker. Also, in my opinion, Schauland was referring to the fact that had le taken whatever TN was referring to, they would have given a receipt for it. Iow, TN insinuated that she wasn't sure if le had taken it or if it disappeared the night Haleigh vanished, Schauland was only stating how le operates. If TN was concerned with the item, why did she report it to the press and not le? And why wasn't it reported immediately? As usual, makes no sense.

moo




My thoughts,eggsactly! Could this item have gone with her during the abduction? I wish I knew what this item was!

[diamond]

There was a media report that Crystal went to view the trailer for the first time, and while there asked Misty for a rememberance of Haleigh. Misty replied that she would have to ask Ron. That according to the media report, did happen.

moo

I remember that report. However, I certainly do not remember any report that Misty was begging Crystal not to blame her. IMO, Misty does not care. If she did, she would tell the truth and stop lying to LE. TN has enabled her to continue to lie by singing her praises on prime time news before, during and after the wedding. That was the sickest thing I ever heard. :thumbdown:

What item is missing?

[panache]

My thoughts,eggsactly! Could this item have gone with her during the abduction? I wish I knew what this item was!

If Teresa thinks something is missing, it would be nice for her to let the public, LE and the media know, rather than keep it a secret. It could be a good clue in identifying Haleigh. Why not reveal what it is? I don't get that.

moo

[E-U-R]

It was reported that Crystal did not take anything, as Misty would not allow it without Ron's permission. This is how the story went and it was never said by Ron or Misty that Crystal did take anything.

my opinion

I realize that it was reported that she did not take anything and ron may have even been told by LE not to let her take anything.... but my point is if I was told by Ron or Misty that I couldn't have something of my daughter then I would most likely would have just taken it... would you have really heard from LE or Ron and M if she had taken anything... that would not be really good public relations to get all bent out of shape and go on a rant that haleighs mother took a toy without permission... maybe even they realized how petty that would sound

[seeker]

No clue some people are suggesting that something was missing that haleigh always had with her supposedly according to ggs and then someone else interpreted her words in context i guess to mean that whatever was missing was taken after haleigh was missing... this just reminded me of the early stories of crystal being denied a toy of haleighs when she asked ron if she could take it with her after she was allowed in the trailer for the first time... she had a conversation with misty about the toy and misty said she would have to ask ron

It all died away, Teresa claiming the family found this important item missing once the home was released back to them. When law enforcement made the statement that no receipt had been issued for this item, which did not leave when Haleigh did, but supposedly disappeared before Teresa went in to clean the home.

Teresa would not name the item because she said that law enforcement told her not to. They refuted her statement.

my opinion

[diamond]

I realize that it was reported that she did not take anything and ron may have even been told by LE not to let her take anything.... but my point is if I was told by Ron or Misty that I couldn't have something of my daughter then I would most likely would have just taken it... would you have really heard from LE or Ron and M if she had taken anything... that would not be really good public relations to get all bent out of shape and go on a rant that haleighs mother took a toy without permission... maybe even they realized how petty that would sound

Ron?? Oh yes. If that had happen Ron would have added it to his pity act and would still be on the news whining that she is a thief.

He would have been saying someone stole my child and then stole my child's things.
MOO

[Lovethechild]

I don't put too much stock into what this supposed "item" was, first off, why was it TN bringing it up, why not Ron and Misty? Second, they couldn't even get what Haleigh was wearing straight and then come to find out the pink shirt Haleigh was allegedly seen in last, was sitting in the laundry pile. If the alleged perp was concerned enough to remove the pink shirt, surely he/she would not have lifted some incidental item for Haleigh's sake.

Just my opinions this evening.


I guess, my mindset is maybe,just maybe...If she is hidden somewhere...this item COULD be with her( IF a family member has her hidden) IDK, just reaching, I guess:glare:

[diamond]

Lol diamond, exactly.

"I'm done."

moo

LOL :laugh:

[diamond]

I guess, my mindset is maybe,just maybe...If she is hidden somewhere...this item COULD be with her( IF a family member has her hidden) IDK, just reaching, I guess:glare:

Maybe that is why TN back tracked on it. Maybe the item is with Haleigh and Ron forgot to tell her.

MOO

[panache]

I agree. I never really looked at CR seriously as a potential suspect because the LE didn't. I would like to think that they know much much more than we do considering it is their job.
Today though I did get a look into why they don't believe he could be connected. (Thanks to everyone for the links.) The last two links say something about third party links and not having permission to link to the site though???
Confusing.

What links were those Patricia?

[JackiBlu]

ITA Seeker and Panache

LE has said it is not a stranger abduction. And it is obvious that the focus is on Ron and Misty.

MOO

Can you tell me how it is obvious the focus is on Ron and Misty? TIA

[seeker]

Maybe that is why TN back tracked on it. Maybe the item is with Haleigh and Ron forgot to tell her.

MOO

Though I don't believe her family has Haleigh and has hidden her away, and though I believe that she died on Feb. 9th, 2009, I do believe that its possible that Ron did something with an "item" and his mom didn't know at the time she made the statement. Once law enforcement came out, she let the entire matter go, using the excuse (and the lie, it appears) that the task force told her she could not reveal what this important item was.

The more confusing and nonsensical, the more I doubt this family's ability to tell the truth. They make up absurd stories that attempt to point in any direction other than their own immediate family.

One lie after another, trying to keep up with one anothers antics and false statements.

these are all my opinions

[diamond]

Can you tell me how it is obvious the focus is on Ron and Misty? TIA

How could it not be? Look at his demeanor from the 911 call to date in hiding. Really listen to what he says in every interview. Misty has told story after story and will not provide an accurate time line. Ron avoids questions with his infamous " I dunno I wuz at work" line.

LE rules out the area RSO's early in the investigation. Has not focused on any kind of investigation of Crystal, Chad or her family which is telling that they are not the focus of the investigation. Does not think it is a stranger abduction. Who does that leave? Ron and Misty.

MOO

[E-U-R]

Your right seeker. Chad Reynolds is a distraction. LE has cleared 44 SO and Chad happens to be another. Chad's diappearance was before Haleigh disappeared. The fact that he has GP's that live nearby, imo, is just a coincidence. Gee, there are two or three that live just around the corner from Haleigh, doesn't mean once they are cleared, they should be held suspect. The fourth one with close proximity, and even alledgely visited that trailer should be more suspect than CR. And that is Sapp.

I think some people for their own comfort zone can't fathom that there is a strong possibilty that someone related and very close to Haleigh caused her disappearance. Color me jaded, but I believe that's the only possiblity.

Bringing in Chad to the storyline takes the focus off where this case should be going.

I have to chuckle at the comments when TH, Cobra or Art make a statement, and some say, I don't believe it, I'll wait till I hear it from LE.

Well LE has said Chad is not a suspect, and still, some don't believe it.

Go figure.
moo
I do not think he is a suspect in the haleigh case but someone else brought it up and I just thought I would try to research it on my own... I am going to keep researching his case as well but i do not think he is the one i just got interested in him and i will not post on him unless asked something specific

[seeker]

Can you tell me how it is obvious the focus is on Ron and Misty? TIA

It is obvious to many of us. If you go back to the beginning and listen to and read the 911 call, all news and media appearances, all law enforcement statements, and mostly, the demeanor, the actions, the inactions, the statements of Ron and Misty and their close relatives, a picture is painted of GUILT.

This is my very strong opinion

[panache]

I do not think he is a suspect in the haleigh case but someone else brought it up and I just thought I would try to research it on my own... I am going to keep researching his case as well but i do not think he is the one i just got interested in him and i will not post on him unless asked something specific

Oh no, keep posting on him. I got real interested in Chad once I found out what he was dealing with once he was released. There's quite a story there. I just think he is not a party to Haleigh's case. I believe he is no longer alive.

moo

[panache]

I don't know if any of you were around when the subject of Haleigh's unexcused absences was a discussion. Well I found this link, and Fla. takes school absences very seriously. I wonder if Ron was aware of their ramifications. Seems like Crystal knew, as she said something about Ron could be arrested , didn't she?

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1003/SEC26.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch1003->Section%2026#1003.26

[E-U-R]

I took it to mean Haleigh and 'the missing item' were both missing at the same time....'The missing item' being wherever Haleigh is...

But I've been wrong before.... :shrug:

I've never even heard tn say anything about it so i was just responding to another poster who believes the exact opposite and says she took it to be after haleigh was missing...
i have no clue of my opinion as to when whatever went missing since i have never heard it word for word... does anyone have a link to where it was said by tn or ggs or who ever it was that said it in the first place?
thanks in advance if you do!

[seeker]

Hi Bugout! I know, I explained upthread about my confusing post. I know the story, just didn't understand where the thought that Crystal somehow lifted something out of the trailer w/out Ron or Misty seeing it, came from.

As far as your last paragraph, ITA. Misty's begging for Crystal to believe her, but has to get the "ok" from Ron to give a token of Haleighs? I have read some posters stating Crystal should have had her own things of Haleighs, but I doubt Crystal would want to make the 1 1/2 hour trip back to her house to collect an item of Haleighs, imo. It was a heartless and cold rejection from the two of them, imo.

moo

<boling mine>

You have stated this so simply, and it is so sad to even contemplate. What control this man has over these two women, especially Crystal, the mother of his children; good-hearted and meek; yet coming into her own during this horrible ordeal.

my opinion

[seeker]

Because Misty was the last one with this child, Misty and Ronald to be exact. LE knows this, it's only a matter of time before they are knocking at the newlywed's door with a warrant. Tick Tock.

I'm not diamond though :D But I can say that the trailer was a crime scene the search was called off, there was not any abduction and usually LE can smell a set up when they see one. You just have to be there, but staged scenes always stick out to you.
They really stick out! Epecially when children are said to all be sleeping together and one is "taken". RC and MC have made their mistakes.
Now it's just a matter of time. No one has been ruled out, and LE cut out part of the trailers walls. They found something on those walls, then they found her pink shirt.

It's sad but sometimes cases take years to solve. Le knows that Misty holds the answers as much as RC does. All this side show activity in this case, is just that, a side show.

Best part of this side show has been RC's intention to constantly separate himself and anything to do with Haleigh. Not me, I wasn't there, I was at work, I dont know anything about that cinder block, I've never been in my own back yard, I don't go out there, that door is always locked, but she's still out there. You call Misty, I can't be bothered with calling 911 because my child is missing, you do it!
I'll just blabber in the background and sound like I'm so upset I can't even SPEAK!
(he is a coward)
And he has made his mistakes. And so much of it is on tape, all Hail the Video!!
:D

Instead of doing everything to look for her, he is busy getting tattoos, moving, and per the hired PI, purchasing drugs in the area. And, getting married to his GF who doesnt even know the meaning of the word:
Numeric.

Now that is from his mouth not mine. (cobras) RC is scared when he hears noises at night, and he calls Cobra, and says things like " you are going to find my baby right?" Yet he has never once even paid for a tank of gas, or a meal for anyone looking for his child. To me this child was property, nothing more. And his behavior is just like Casey Anthony's. And he did not call, 911.
But oh yes he did do everything to tell the world, that he was at work, he only hit his kids in accordance to how FDS said he could, he used his mommy to stand up for him in front of the court system and in this case, the camera. And for some it worked for awhile. Others are just watching and waiting.

Lets see if RC eventually leads LE to her broken body. And I do believe, she was broken. And left that way. That's just what I think the end result is. This is a recovery mission.
I do believe that is how he viewed her. Property. It's how many abusive men view women, and especially females.

Don't be swayed by all these side stories in this case. I believe it's a case of familial child abuse, and murder. Nothing more nothing Less.
I think the timeline is still the problem and I think the timeline is going to be RCs problem as well.

You have stated what I believe to be the truth. A sad, yet simple story of violence against women and children and a girl-child has paid with her life.

my thoughts

[diamond]

Because Misty was the last one with this child, Misty and Ronald to be exact. LE knows this, it's only a matter of time before they are knocking at the newlywed's door with a warrant. Tick Tock.

I'm not diamond though :D But I can say that the trailer was a crime scene the search was called off, there was not any abduction and usually LE can smell a set up when they see one. You just have to be there, but staged scenes always stick out to you.
They really stick out! Epecially when children are said to all be sleeping together and one is "taken". RC and MC have made their mistakes.
Now it's just a matter of time. No one has been ruled out, and LE cut out part of the trailers walls. They found something on those walls, then they found her pink shirt.

It's sad but sometimes cases take years to solve. Le knows that Misty holds the answers as much as RC does. All this side show activity in this case, is just that, a side show.

Best part of this side show has been RC's intention to constantly separate himself and anything to do with Haleigh. Not me, I wasn't there, I was at work, I dont know anything about that cinder block, I've never been in my own back yard, I don't go out there, that door is always locked, but she's still out there. You call Misty, I can't be bothered with calling 911 because my child is missing, you do it!
I'll just blabber in the background and sound like I'm so upset I can't even SPEAK!
(he is a coward)
And he has made his mistakes. And so much of it is on tape, all Hail the Video!!
:D

Instead of doing everything to look for her, he is busy getting tattoos, moving, and per the hired PI, purchasing drugs in the area. And, getting married to his GF who doesnt even know the meaning of the word:
Numeric.

Now that is from his mouth not mine. (cobras) RC is scared when he hears noises at night, and he calls Cobra, and says things like " you are going to find my baby right?" Yet he has never once even paid for a tank of gas, or a meal for anyone looking for his child. To me this child was property, nothing more. And his behavior is just like Casey Anthony's. And he did not call, 911.
But oh yes he did do everything to tell the world, that he was at work, he only hit his kids in accordance to how FDS said he could, he used his mommy to stand up for him in front of the court system and in this case, the camera. And for some it worked for awhile. Others are just watching and waiting.

Lets see if RC eventually leads LE to her broken body. And I do believe, she was broken. And left that way. That's just what I think the end result is. This is a recovery mission.
I do believe that is how he viewed her. Property. It's how many abusive men view women, and especially females.

Don't be swayed by all these side stories in this case. I believe it's a case of familial child abuse, and murder. Nothing more nothing Less.
I think the timeline is still the problem and I think the timeline is going to be RCs problem as well.


Excellent post, Bugout, as always. I completely agree!

[panache]

I've never even heard tn say anything about it so i was just responding to another poster who believes the exact opposite and says she took it to be after haleigh was missing...
i have no clue of my opinion as to when whatever went missing since i have never heard it word for word... does anyone have a link to where it was said by tn or ggs or who ever it was that said it in the first place?
thanks in advance if you do!

I think Teresa mentioned it on the NG house tour. Do you have that link?

[E-U-R]

<boling mine>

You have stated this so simply, and it is so sad to even contemplate. What control this man has over these two women, especially Crystal, the mother of his children; good-hearted and meek; yet coming into her own during this horrible ordeal.

my opinion

Agree 100%

[carlybarly]

We Have No Reason To Believe CR Is Connectd With Haleigh Cummings Disappearance.


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902160908/1002/NEWS01?Title=More_information_about_the_missing_Ma rion_County_sex_offender_

AT this point we have no reason to believe that he couldn't be connected. Just because the police say they don't feel he is connected at the time of the article, doesn't mean they were being completely truthful or haven't changed their minds since.

[E-U-R]

I think Teresa mentioned it on the NG house tour. Do you have that link?
No I don't and there are way too many ng things on youtube to try and filter thru

[seeker]

Thanks Seeker. Don't forget about the other two women Ronald controls, that'd be Granny Sykes and Mother Teresa, imo. I'm a pretty firm believer in Ronald being a master manipulator.

moo


You're right, Viking. He is a "master" manipulator. I only wish the two older women, the mother and grandmother of this violent, cowardly man would show some integrity and stand up for Haleigh.

my opinion

[diamond]

Misty was with her, pleading with Crystal to believe her when she said she had no idea how her baby vanished, or who was behind it. Crystal asked for a toy, or some momento of Haleigh to take with her; it was fine with Misty, but she said she’d have to ask Ronald first. Crystal left empty-handed.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/03/11/haleigh-mom-wants-custody/


If true Misti was begging Crystal to believe her.

Interesting read, bookie. Thanks for the link.

[panache]

No I don't and there are way too many ng things on youtube to try and filter thru

I'll see if I can find it for you.

[panache]

Because Misty was the last one with this child, Misty and Ronald to be exact. LE knows this, it's only a matter of time before they are knocking at the newlywed's door with a warrant. Tick Tock.

I'm not diamond though :D But I can say that the trailer was a crime scene the search was called off, there was not any abduction and usually LE can smell a set up when they see one. You just have to be there, but staged scenes always stick out to you.
They really stick out! Epecially when children are said to all be sleeping together and one is "taken". RC and MC have made their mistakes.
Now it's just a matter of time. No one has been ruled out, and LE cut out part of the trailers walls. They found something on those walls, then they found her pink shirt.

It's sad but sometimes cases take years to solve. Le knows that Misty holds the answers as much as RC does. All this side show activity in this case, is just that, a side show.

Best part of this side show has been RC's intention to constantly separate himself and anything to do with Haleigh. Not me, I wasn't there, I was at work, I dont know anything about that cinder block, I've never been in my own back yard, I don't go out there, that door is always locked, but she's still out there. You call Misty, I can't be bothered with calling 911 because my child is missing, you do it!
I'll just blabber in the background and sound like I'm so upset I can't even SPEAK!
(he is a coward)
And he has made his mistakes. And so much of it is on tape, all Hail the Video!!
:D

Instead of doing everything to look for her, he is busy getting tattoos, moving, and per the hired PI, purchasing drugs in the area. And, getting married to his GF who doesnt even know the meaning of the word:
Numeric.

Now that is from his mouth not mine. (cobras) RC is scared when he hears noises at night, and he calls Cobra, and says things like " you are going to find my baby right?" Yet he has never once even paid for a tank of gas, or a meal for anyone looking for his child. To me this child was property, nothing more. And his behavior is just like Casey Anthony's. And he did not call, 911.
But oh yes he did do everything to tell the world, that he was at work, he only hit his kids in accordance to how FDS said he could, he used his mommy to stand up for him in front of the court system and in this case, the camera. And for some it worked for awhile. Others are just watching and waiting.

Lets see if RC eventually leads LE to her broken body. And I do believe, she was broken. And left that way. That's just what I think the end result is. This is a recovery mission.
I do believe that is how he viewed her. Property. It's how many abusive men view women, and especially females.

Don't be swayed by all these side stories in this case. I believe it's a case of familial child abuse, and murder. Nothing more nothing Less.
I think the timeline is still the problem and I think the timeline is going to be RCs problem as well.

WOW just WOW !!!!

You took my breath away. There's nothing more to say, you have said it all.

Post of the year!!!!:thumbsup:

[seeker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gvSzbSMNg

As I was siting here typing away with you all, I heard one of my teenaged sons listening to a different version of Skynard's "Simple Man." It is done by a band I'd never heard of called Shinedown.

It is beautifully sung and I just had to post the video, with words, for all of us who want our sons to be good and "simple" men.

seeker

[panache]

So funny because it is probably true!!>> how sick is that???

E U R

Here's Teresa with NG..There are four parts. Start with part one, but I think the *missing item* topic is at part four.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGbY37UjvY8

[diamond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gvSzbSMNg

As I was siting here typing away with you all, I heard one of my teenaged sons listening to a different version of Skynard's "Simple Man." It is done by a band I'd never heard of called Shinedown.

It is beautifully sung and I just had to post the video, with words, for all of us who want our sons to be good and "simple" men.

seeker

Simple Man is a great song. Thanks for the link. Shinedown is good.

Lynyrd Skynyrd is a great band. Free Bird is one of the greatest songs I have ever heard. LOVE IT!

[seeker]

So then, it would be fair to assume that you would tend to believe that le would allow the public to be in danger? That le would allow little children to roam freely without putting one word out on the street, muchless carry it on the media? I believe if this were the case and they were trying to locate him as a key poi, it would be nationwide and Cobra and other bounty hunters would be looking for him, not sitting in satsuma. As well as other le departments looking for him.

I seriously doubt le would let little children be in harms way, just doesn't click for me.

moo

Completely agree.

[panache]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5gvSzbSMNg

As I was siting here typing away with you all, I heard one of my teenaged sons listening to a different version of Skynard's "Simple Man." It is done by a band I'd never heard of called Shinedown.

It is beautifully sung and I just had to post the video, with words, for all of us who want our sons to be good and "simple" men.

seeker

Thank you seeker, very pleasant, I'm listening to it as I type. Kinda fits in with the pleasant atomsphere here tonight IYKWIM.

[E-U-R]

Interesting read, bookie. Thanks for the link.

Originally Posted by bookie View Post
Misty was with her, pleading with Crystal to believe her when she said she had no idea how her baby vanished, or who was behind it. Crystal asked for a toy, or some momento of Haleigh to take with her; it was fine with Misty, but she said she’d have to ask Ronald first. Crystal left empty-handed.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/03/11/...wants-custody/


If true Misti was begging Crystal to believe her.

My post had the same info but I was not basing it on ah.com as I take his info with a grain of salt I heard it on real news on tv.. The part about misty begging her was crystals voice only and film of a canopy/test type thing... you could tell by the tone in her voice that she didn't really suspect misty of anything at that point or maybe that she was just starting to... she just said it real matter of factly and i think it may have been the same day where she first says that she didn't know anything about misty at all

[carlybarly]

I do have soome info that I can't post here, but I will look through it to see if there is anything allowed.

I realize many seem to think there might be a connection to Haleigh case, but LE has said he is not.

The events in Chad's personal life around his disappearance according to his family, were upsetting to him. One being, his sister was killed in an auto accident.

Here is one article that should be ok to post from his uncle.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Missing-Predators-Family-Speaks-Out/3DjI6B_noU2xnGk_rEAUuA.cspx

I posted before I read this, I can see why LE doesn't feel he is connected. Thanks for posting that link.

[seeker]

Simple Man is a great song. Thanks for the link. Shinedown is good.

Lynyrd Skynyrd is a great band. Free Bird is one of the greatest songs I have ever heard. LOVE IT!

You're welcome. I see I spelled skynyrd wrong! Drat. I love Free Bird, too and now I am psyched about Shinedown.

(Didn't L/S name their band after a teacher, or is that one of our great southern urban myths?)

Apologies to those who don't appreciate going off topic. The lyrics though, I felt were apropos to our conversation regarding Ron Cummings.

my opinion

[panache]

I hear Jerome was arrested again tonight. I wonder if LE is putting some heat on him. He was in jail all weekend under a special deal from a prior case. Guess he's allowed out week days and serves weekends. However he was released yesterday and re arrested today.

moo

[seeker]

Thank you seeker, very pleasant, I'm listening to it as I type. Kinda fits in with the pleasant atomsphere here tonight IYKWIM.

That's good. I didn't post a video showing the band itself, but you can find them just by googling shinedown.

[panache]

I posted before I read this, I can see why LE doesn't feel he is connected. Thanks for posting that link.

carly.

I think Chad's case would be an interesting one to follow. I delved into a little bit awhile ago. There's quite a story there with the bio family and the step family. There are some people who truly believe Chad could be involved, and I respect that. I just see it from a different angle, and there are one or two who seem might suspicious to me.

moo

[diamond]

You're welcome. I see I spelled skynyrd wrong! Drat. I love Free Bird, too and now I am psyched about Shinedown.

(Didn't L/S name their band after a teacher, or is that one of our great southern urban myths?)

Apologies to those who don't appreciate going off topic. The lyrics though, I felt were apropos to our conversation regarding Ron Cummings.

my opinion

The band was formed at a high school in Jacksonville, FL. And they called the band My Backyard or something like that. The name was changed to Lynyrd Skynyrd after a school gym teacher, Leonard Skinner. He was a legendary antagonist of longhaired students.
And as you know their most popular song is Sweet Home Alabama. Every generation has heard that song!

Sorry for off topic.

[seeker]

Thanks for this. Very righteous song. I dedicated that song to my son. (I only pray he will listen.)

I know what you are saying. If our sons will just be good, strong men, how much of a better world will we give to those who come after us and those our children touch now and into the future.

[panache]

I wonder what he was charged with this time.

was that a hint? lol


http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753945&IMG=51200

[E-U-R]

E U R

Here's Teresa with NG..There are four parts. Start with part one, but I think the *missing item* topic is at part four.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGbY37UjvY8

thanks for the link
i am on my laptop right now and i have speaker issues due to soda... would you happen to know how people get show transcripts... i would love to get my hands on a bunch of those but i don't know where to look for them

[seeker]

Very nice, seeker. Thanks for posting that.
You are welcome, Tiff. Thanks to my son who insisted i go back to my computer and find it and LISTEN.. I'm just thrilled he's listening! It was good to tell him it was a song I'd loved and thought of with each birth of another son.

[diamond]

was that a hint? lol


http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753945&IMG=51200

:scared: He looks mean!

[seeker]

The band was formed at a high school in Jacksonville, FL. And they called the band My Backyard or something like that. The name was changed to Lynyrd Skynyrd after a school gym teacher, Leonard Skinner. He was a legendary antagonist of longhaired students.
And as you know their most popular song is Sweet Home Alabama. Every generation has heard that song!

Sorry for off topic.

Thanks again. Didn't we all have those antagonists?

[seeker]

Yes, it's great that he's listening, as well as letting you know that he's listening. :thumbup:

I kinda thought so, too! I felt sorta honored.

[panache]

LOl, yeah, 'cause you're so much better at finding stuff than I am. :wub:

Fleeing looks like a new charge and also another new harrassing phone call. I wonder who he is trying to call. Maybe its Chuck. :biggrin:

[seeker]

Fleeing looks like a new charge and also another new harrassing phone call. I wonder who he is trying to call. Maybe its Chuck. :biggrin:

Panache, you are a master researcher and what would we do without you!

[panache]

That was a pretty hefty bond he was out on.

I wonder about the phone call too.

Thanks for finding that for me, btw. :smile:

He's one scary dude. I feel sorry for those girls that are involved with him.

I need to find my pillow, I'm going to be operating on four hours sleep in the morning.

[panache]

Panache, you are a master researcher and what would we do without you!


Thank you seeker.Its fun.

[panache]

I got a late strart tonight. I'm wide awake but know I'll regret staying up when that alarm goes off.

I'm wide awake too. Had too much coffee I think.

[Lovethechild]

Sorry if this was mentioned already. I was just watching a video of the inside of the trailer..... From what I can tell...it looks like a square part of the carpet was cut-out....anyone know why?

[Lovethechild]

Thanks for the link,51.

[Lovethechild]

Croslin has told different stories to police and the media about the timing of her discovery that Haleigh was gone and where she and the child were in the mobile home the night the little girl vanished.

Rose said Tuesday that police are focusing on the timeline Croslin has given them in the case.

"We're still working on the timeline, but we're not going to divulge (specifics) at this time," he said. "We feel pretty confident about when the girlfriend last saw Haleigh. That’s the timeline we’re focusing on."


Hmmmmm.....interesting.

[carlybarly]

That is an interesting link viking and that is the first I read that Ronald said that. I wonder if he actually said that or if the paper made a mistake in coverage. I'm more inclined for a newspaper error since that is the only place I saw that. The inconsistencies of Misty and we slept together, Haleigh slept there or here is a big problem.

[Cand2766]

Here you go:


http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html



I'm rather new at posting but have always read everything. Tonight was the first time I ever watched this video and something threw me off. If you watch it you hear RC says "I would give my life to have my child's life back" I just wonder why he would have said child's life back rather than say have my child back? Just curious

[Lovethechild]

I thought the last couple of sentences were strange, is that what you are pulling from it?

moo

this is the part that interested me.

"We're still working on the timeline, but we're not going to divulge (specifics) at this time," he said. "We feel pretty confident about when the girlfriend last saw Haleigh. That’s the timeline we’re focusing on.":huh:

[Scampi]

I'm rather new at posting but have always read everything. Tonight was the first time I ever watched this video and something threw me off. If you watch it you hear RC says "I would give my life to have my child's life back" I just wonder why he would have said child's life back rather than say have my child back? Just curious

Hi and welcome to the Haleigh Board. That's what you call a major screw up by a father who had something to do with the disappearance of his daughter, in my view.

Thanks Viking and Panache for all of the amazing links you find.

[beachpatty]

Hi and welcome to the Haleigh Board. That's what you call a major screw up by a father who had something to do with the disappearance of his daughter, in my view.

Thanks Viking and Panache for all of the amazing links you find.



good morning Scamp,

yes, welcome Cand :smile:

ITA he did slip up with that statement, poor planning, ya know? Misty had a pretty easy script & didn't follow that well either :rolleyes:

beachpatty

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm rather new at posting but have always read everything. Tonight was the first time I ever watched this video and something threw me off. If you watch it you hear RC says "I would give my life to have my child's life back" I just wonder why he would have said child's life back rather than say have my child back? Just curious

Welcome. :biggrin:

Perhaps he was trying to convey that he would give anything to get Haleigh back. I don't think these people have extraordinarily high IQ's and functioning under stress can only further diminish that IMO. :sad:

Maybe he became nervous when he realized how this could be construed. JMOOC but I don't see anything sinister in that comment.

[CANDYKISSES]

this is the part that interested me.

"We're still working on the timeline, but we're not going to divulge (specifics) at this time," he said. "We feel pretty confident about when the girlfriend last saw Haleigh. That’s the timeline we’re focusing on.":huh:

Perhaps they have an idea of when Misty might have passed out IF SAY SHE PUT A VIDEO IN....JMO tho. :unsure:

[CANDYKISSES]

That is an interesting link viking and that is the first I read that Ronald said that. I wonder if he actually said that or if the paper made a mistake in coverage. I'm more inclined for a newspaper error since that is the only place I saw that. The inconsistencies of Misty and we slept together, Haleigh slept there or here is a big problem.

While I tend to agree that was a BIGGIE as it emerged, maybe later that wasn't really so much of an issue after talking to everyone. I have a theory based on seeing parents LIE about sleeping conditions and living conditions to get and keep custody of children when working with Social Services/Child Welfare to keep them. :sad: So, I'm not confident Misty didn't think she better say one thing but knew another to be the truth.

In the end it would have been based on whether Haleigh was taken or if something happened to her in that dwelling. JMO tho and nothing more. :unsure:

I hope someone is going to remember something about that day which will in turn reveal the whereabouts of Haleigh Cummings. It has been far too long now.