Republicans Declare 2010 as Year of the Bible

[snookums1]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/10/729837/-Republicans-Declare-2010-as-Year-of-the-Bible Hmmm. Does this mean they are going to start following the message given in it?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' - Matthew 25


How good it would be if they started caring for the least amongst us instead of being as the Publicans and shouting their religion from the streets to get pats on the back.

[20 Mule Team]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/10/729837/-Republicans-Declare-2010-as-Year-of-the-Bible Hmmm. Does this mean they are going to start following the message given in it?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' - Matthew 25


How good it would be if they started caring for the least amongst us instead of being as the Publicans and shouting their religion from the streets to get pats on the back.

Bolding mine on the above, and in answer......Nope....Nada....Doubt it very much.

[snookums1]

Something else to consider...

"Thall shall not judge lest ye be judged."

So remember, how you judge others, God will judge you the same.
That includes homosexuals, Muslims, Mexicans, blacks, etc. None of them should be judged or treated as less worthy.

[MiamiNice1]

This thread is nothing more than a nasty slam against Republicans. When are you guys going to knock this nonsense off?

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http://philanthropy.com/live/2006/11/brooks/

In his new book, Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism, Arthur C. Brooks presents research showing that religious conservatives are more charitable than secular liberals. He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others. Included in his book is an analysis of 15 sets of data that he says all came to the same conclusion.


imo

[MiamiNice1]

Something else to consider...

"Thall shall not judge lest ye be judged."

So remember, how you judge others, God will judge you the same.

It is mind boggling how those living in glass houses keep throwing those stones! :rolleyes:

imo

[baltoman99]

It's mind boggling how some people try to judge others they don't know. I judge no one for fear of God's wrath. Does anyone else here do the same?(a question not an accusation) Have you read the posts aimed at anyone who doesn't support Obama?

Tell me, why is it you pick and choose which side to lay this on?

All I see is you speaking out against anyone who supports Obama yet nothing of those who spout lies about him and his supporters?

It's quite telling to me.

Why don't you start your holier than thou garbage on posts calling Obama a Muslim, a terrorist suppoter, anti-American.........or doesn't that fit into your criteria of "judging" someone.

[snookums1]

I have to wonder what all the other religions in this country think about the Republicans honoring the Bible in this way? If you put them all together, they are probably even with Christians. Are they now considered less American because their religion does not include reading the Bible?

[theal3]

I hope the GOPers in these regionalist districts or rural states keep on doing what they are doing, and it gets reported how entrenched they are with moral and religious issues and trying to introduce them in Congress, lord knows they aren't satisfied with doing it at the state level. So much for separation of church and state. It show more and more people with all the ways to get info these days, just how they waste taxpayers time with issues like these in the halls of Congress IMHO.

More and more people, even of faith, or other faiths who don't wear it on their sleeves are turning away from the GOP. They are like "extemeists" Christians, just like there is extremist muslims. It's the America version of them trying to control other people lives, and discrimminating against those not like them, as if they are the chosen ones.

They just don't know when to quit. IMHO

[snookums1]

I hope the GOPers in these regionalist districts or rural states keep on doing what they are doing, and it gets reported how entrenched they are with moral and religious issues and trying to introduce them in Congress, lord knows they aren't satisfied with doing it at the state level. So much for separation of church and state. It show more and more people with all the ways to get info these days, just how they waste taxpayers time with issues like these in the halls of Congress IMHO.

More and more people, even of faith, or other faiths who don't wear it on their sleeves are turning away from the GOP. They are like "extemeists" Christians, just like there is extremist muslims. It's the America version of them trying to control other people lives, and discrimminating against those not like them, as if they are the chosen ones.

They just don't know when to quit. IMHO Actually they remind me of a Christian version of the Taliban. They want to take over this whole country and everything it has ever stood for. And what they preach is anything but Christian, in the pure form. Christian is all about love for your fellow man, sharing, helping those in need, doing unto others as you would want others to do unto you, giving, etc. etc.

[Brentwood]

IMO, the 14 holier than thou religious right congress critters co/sponsoring this are huge hypocrites. They exclude all other religions.

Would Jesus vote like they do…

They vote for the rich at the expense of the poor
They vote against women and children
They vote against equality for all
They couldn’t care less about the killing in Iraq
on and on and on...

[theal3]

Actually they remind me of a Christian version of the Taliban. They want to take over this whole country and everything it has ever stood for. And what they preach is anything but Christian, in the pure form. Christian is all about love for your fellow man, sharing, helping those in need, doing unto others as you would want others to do unto you, giving, etc. etc.

Exactly. I have and have had friends in business and politics and neighbors and in community organization or in the workplace of many faiths, sexual orientation, and culture/color. And religion was a private thing, no more than knowing or saying "going to church." No one tried to recruit/covert people; decisions were made with no mention of church or faith. In fact it turned people off, when a "few" leaned that way. That's the way it should be. We are so lucky in the country to allow religious freedom and many, many religions, and branches of them.

And kudos to Brentwood: ITA.

[snookums1]

IMO, the 14 holier than thou religious right congress critters co/sponsoring this are huge hypocrites. They exclude all other religions.

Would Jesus vote like they do…

They vote for the rich at the expense of the poor
They vote against women and children
They vote against equality for all
They couldn’t care less about the killing in Iraq
on and on and on... I can answer that. NO. But then He said that the day would come when people in power, using the Word of God would do the works of Satan and many would be fooled. Is what is going on now what He was talking about? He was all about love, forgiveness, helping those with less, sharing, caring for your fellow man no matter what their circumstance etc. etc. etc. And our country was founded on the belief that all are equal and all religions should be deemed the same way. No religion should have sway in our government or have any part of the government's decision making. Religion should be kept totally separate.

[Brentwood]

I can answer that. NO. But then He said that the day would come when people in power, using the Word of God would do the works of Satan and many would be fooled. Is what is going on now what He was talking about? He was all about love, forgiveness, helping those with less, sharing, caring for your fellow man no matter what their circumstance etc. etc. etc. And our country was founded on the belief that all are equal and all religions should be deemed the same way. No religion should have sway in our government or have any part of the government's decision making. Religion should be kept totally separate.

Excellent post Snook. As you said, He was all about love and forgiveness. There are many false profits and you can tell who is who because "you know them by their works." Many will be fooled. I couldn't agree with you more regarding the need for separation between church and state.

[snookums1]

Why is it you people keep accusing me of talking against Obama supporters. I have said it before and I say it again...I VOTED FOR HIM! But when I am treated like a leper for saying even the least negative thing about dems or Obama, I tend to start regretting my vote. Do you intend to attack any one who voted for him who dares question something he is doing? You will turn a lot of people against him if you continue to do that. I am on the fence but you are beginning to push me over the other side by your constant accusations and hate.

I simply made a statement about not judging people and was criticized for it. That was the reason for bringing up posts of Obama supporters. I have seen more attacks than normal comments and must wonder why that is.

So I will try again and ask this....does anyone who considers themselves a Christian wonder why Obama has yet to find a church after 6 months since the election? I only question it because the man has been to exactly one church service since leaving United Trinity and that worries me, especially when he didn't even attend church on National Prayer Day. I think it should concern everyone who follows the Bible and stands up for Christianity.

I am not condemning or attacking him or anyone here. I am asking a question and the tone of responses will be very telling.

My opinion.You do not have to attend a church to believe. Nor do you have to attend a church (founded by man) to be a Christian. Our religions are a private thing, between us and God. And we were told that when we pray to do so in private and God will hear in private.

[Brentwood]

The church is within the person, not a building or establishment they go to, IMO.

[snookums1]

The church is within the person, not a building or establishment they go to, IMO.
Exactly. That is what I meant when I said churches were founded by men and not God.

[theal3]

You do not have to attend a church to believe. Nor do you have to attend a church (founded by man) to be a Christian. Our religions are a private thing, between us and God. And we were told that when we pray to do so in private and God will hear in private.

Exactly. It's confusing to children. They ask: if there is only one god, why are there so many religions? Why do religions fight against other religions, or say there's is better than the others. IMHO.

[snookums1]

Exactly. It's confusing to children. They ask: if there is only one god, why are there so many religions? Why do religions fight against other religions, or say there's is better than the others. IMHO. I am protestant and married a Catholic with custody of 3 children. You are so right, it is very confusing for children.

[LisaM22]

This thread is nothing more than a nasty slam against Republicans. When are you guys going to knock this nonsense off?<snip>
imo

is it true, are republicans really trying to push something silly like this?

[LisaM22]

Considering that contrary to some beliefs, even Obama has to answer to a higher authority and if he does not worship God for all to see, then God may not be too happy with him and that could spell real problems for us. Whether you know it or not, even presidents cannot succeed without God's help.

My opinion.

no wonder your not a democrat, that sounds like a far right belief to me - separation of church and state

thought the bible said something like - if you pray in public you have already got your reward as you were doing it for yourself and not for a god

[LisaM22]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:31-46;&version=9;

"ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. "


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:24;&version=9;

"Matthew 19:24 (King James Version)

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

maybe both of these of these are messages the religious right should be looking at more closely

[LisaM22]

Once again for those who can't seem to read, I am not a RW and not a republican. Until recently I was a democrat but am now independent. Please read posts completely if you can read. And since your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever I am assuming you cannot understand Bible passages like the ones I posted.

You are attempting to judge my faith and you don't even know me. Show me in the Bible where it says you should or can do that. You claim that by praying in public it is a selfish act and not for God. That goes against almost ever passage I quoted from the Bible. I am not ashamed of my belief even if you are. I have no problem telling people that I believe even if you do. I stand up, even in public, for my faith even if you won't.

I believe in God even if you don't.

swear to god? you wouldn't lie to us know would ya? not in your gods name anyways woudl ya? what were ya in 2000 and 2004?

[LisaM22]

You just proved my point. Thank you. I will pray for your soul.

as you just proved mine, I knew ya couldn't do it - lol

[LisaM22]

So He is MY God huh? Not yours....hmmmm. And you claim the current democratic party are Christians? I have met so many with the same lack of belief as you. That isn't saying much for that party.

when have I ever claimed that, this is America, land of MANY religions, Obama is a Christian, not all democrats are Christians - if you had really been a democrat I would think you would already know that - and you call us "that party", you mean like "That one"....lol

[LisaM22]

Well I do know that Christians do not bow before Muslim kings. And I could care less if you believe I was a democrat or not. I don't believe you are really an American so that makes us even. What country do you live in?

My opinion.

Muslims and Christians believe in the same god, they are an extension of the same religion

if you believe in a god, you believe he knows if your lying or not in his name ... doesn't mater to me

I live in the land of the free... America... I do not live in a theocracy nor do I want to, how about you?

[Amy Thist]

It is mind boggling how those living in glass houses keep throwing those stones! :rolleyes:

imo

I think that the democratic platform is way more socially conscious which is what is being said in the opening thread. How often are we called bleeding hearts because we care? It is not a slam if it's the truth that his the way I see things. Maybe there are individual republicans who care but it doesn't seem like the party people do. Listn to Mr. Limbaugh for e.g. whatsocial programs does the right think are necessary? or unnnecessary. Health care? programs for mothers and children, the elderly? education? the environment?

[Amy Thist]

Oh really? Then why isn't praying, belief, faith, attending church every week, being christian, being religious, or even being spiritual a requirement to be president?

How do you explain that at least 16 US Presidents were believed to either be Diest, or having no religious affiliations, including several of our founding fathers and Abraham Lincoln?


Please explain how exactly, "God not being too happy with Obama, could mean real problems for the United States"..??? Are you saying if Obama doesn't attend church every week, God is going to punish the entire country?

I think this is yet anotehr misstep for rthe republicans. No one liks relgion being crammed down their throats. how about year of the wiccan? year of the agnostic? year of the Hindu. Another way to drive people away from their party.:thumbsup:

[Lynden1000]

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?

Some of us think both are entirely inappropriate. It's not the government's business to be promoting religion.

[Banditta]

Some of us think both are entirely inappropriate. It's not the government's business to be promoting religion.

I agree with you about the government's role. If it's the republican party will they set up a special fund? What about those republicans who want to contribute to the party but don't want their money to go towards evangelizing? They are creating their own problems, the party I mean. I wonder if more republicans abandon the party because of it's extreme rightwing religious agenda, more and more theocratic.

[Banditta]

Well that's good to hear, since I didn't notice any of the same posters say anything against Islam Day on that thread.


There is a difference, imo. One day set aside versus and entire political party basically engaging in prostelitizing a religion. But Ithink they ought to go ahead with it.:biggrin: It also is aboutg promoting one religion over any other, when you refer to the Bible, being the book for only certain believers. Theocracy.

[joolz]

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?


Neither one is "okay." Religion and politics should not mix. :angry:

[Carol25]

Just glancing through this thread, I thought I was in the religion board. :confused:

[Tracian]

Considering that contrary to some beliefs, even Obama has to answer to a higher authority and if he does not worship God for all to see, then God may not be too happy with him and that could spell real problems for us. Whether you know it or not, even presidents cannot succeed without God's help.

My opinion.



Why would a benevolent God punish an entire country for the actions of one man?

[Tracian]

Neither one is "okay." Religion and politics should not mix. :angry:



I agree, the last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

[Tracian]

Did HE not punish all of humanity for the act of one man and one woman? (Adam and Eve)


At the time, should the Bible be correct, Adam and Eve were humanity, they were here all by themselves.

[Tracian]

But His punishment was aimed at all their children and their childrens children and so on.

And the people who turned against and betrayed God while Moses was receiving God's law. Even those who did not follow the betrayers were punished for the acts of the others. All were made to wander in the wilderness for 40 years.


And this is a benevolent God that some choose to worship? Punishing children for the sins of the parents?

[lunchlady]

This reeks of yet another attempt by the GOP to claim the Bible for themselves. What a crock.
Who exactly are the religious paragons in the GOP? Why might they be better Christians than their Democrat equivalents? What plans does the GOP have to discredit Democrats? Are they revamping the Family Values BS? The Moral Majority BS?
I know the Religious Right is working hard to improve their public image; they don't even want to be called the Religious Right anymore but it seems to be a pretty straightforward name to me.

And what are they expecting in 2010? I predict that the GOP is going to go on an all-out anti-choice rampage, since they've used this as a wedge issue and litmus test for decades now. They don't seem to be noticing that this has overall been less effective for them lately although they've had some success in places like North Dakota.
So brace yourself y'all. I predict that the GOP is preparing for the 2010 elections by getting out those dead baby photos. And maybe they'll somehow tie that in with the "Socialized Medicine is a Communist Plot!" theme.

[lunchlady]

I have noticed that it is those with liberal beliefs and views that argue against religion incessantly. Yet 70% if Americans are Christian?

My opinion.

I am more and more liberal as I age, despite my highly conservative roots. I am very pro-Bible and pro-Christian and I am not anti-religion. I'm also not unusual.
I think the erosion of and changes in American Christianity are generally unfortunate. I am disturbed by the decrease in church attendance and membership especially among young people and think that that trend should be reversed if possible. The lack of religious leadership and education in their developing lives is a great loss for them and society.
I am also disturbed by the character of many of the emerging brands of Christianity and feel they are contributing to these and other trends I don't like.

[LisaM22]

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?

your asking for a federal holiday for an entire year to be for one religion - lol, I have no clue what "Islam Day" is, is it a federal holiday?

[LisaM22]

I have noticed that it is those with liberal beliefs and views that argue against religion incessantly. Yet 70% if Americans are Christian?

My opinion.

maybe because the right doesn't value religious freedom and separation of church and state or any other religion other then their own... just maybe - this is America, land of the free, equal rights for all

[LisaM22]

Anyone who believes in the Bible believes in God. <snip>

My opinion.

not everyone that believes in God, believes in the bible

in fact most Americans do not take the bible literally as the word of a god

[Doc Holliday]

Just glancing through this thread, I thought I was in the religion board. :confused:



You are now....

[Tracian]

your asking for a federal holiday for an entire year to be for one religion - lol, I have no clue what "Islam Day" is, is it a federal holiday?


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10972


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C05%5C08%5Cstory_8-5-2009_pg7_10


http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/05/07/im-in-favor-of-hawaiis-islam-day-and-think-we-could-use-a-lutheran-day-too/


Those are just a few quick links...about Islam Day.

[LisaM22]

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10972


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C05%5C08%5Cstory_8-5-2009_pg7_10


http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/05/07/im-in-favor-of-hawaiis-islam-day-and-think-we-could-use-a-lutheran-day-too/


Those are just a few quick links...about Islam Day.

that is terrible, 9-11 in Hawaii is Islam Day? how many republicans want the federal government to recognize that one? separation of church and state people, that is ridiculous - can't we all unite on this issue regardless of party, regardless of religion, separation of church and state is the only way to keep the peace and the religious freedom we currently enjoy

[LisaM22]

#9 is especially true:
9) Liberals see Christians as wanting to impose their religion on them when in truth it is the liberals who have used the courts system to impose their secular humanism religion on all of us.

not true at all, we voted for a christian president, we do not discriminate against others based on religion, what we do not want is any one religion to take over our government, we do not want a theocracy - we believe in separation of church and state and religious freedom for ALL

how do you feel about "Islam Day", I have nothing against Muslims, but I do not agree with that at all, you should not either

[LisaM22]

I do not even have a problem with the conservative right

I do though have a problem with the fanatical religious right
sadly though the fanatical religious right has taken over the party

the ones that are
1. anti-choice
2. pro-death
3. anti equal-rights
4. against death with dignity
5. against separation of church and state
6. don't support bottom up economics
7. pro trickle down economics
8. pro corporations and pro top 10%
9. against safety nets for Americans
10. do not believe humans are contributing to climate change

that is just off the top of my head

[Tracian]

http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

According the first chart at the above link, when the question asked was, 'Which party is religion friendly' the poll shows Republicans with 55% and Democrats with 29%. That appears to show which party the country believes has stronger Christian convictions.

My opinion.

Perhaps, but how much of the bible do they really follow? Case in point Leviticus..

[LisaM22]

http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

According the first chart at the above link, when the question asked was, 'Which party is religion friendly' the poll shows Republicans with 55% and Democrats with 29%. That appears to show which party the country believes has stronger Christian convictions.

My opinion.

in the eyes of those that voted republicans were religious friendly, what religion do you think were they referring ALL religions, or just their chosen one, I think you know the answer to that

[LisaM22]

Huh? :scared:

in that poll
do you think those that voted republicans were more religious friendly
were talking about towards ALL religions or just one
I think we all know the answer to that

[lunchlady]

http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

According the first chart at the above link, when the question asked was, 'Which party is religion friendly' the poll shows Republicans with 55% and Democrats with 29%. That appears to show which party the country believes has stronger Christian convictions.

My opinion.

This poll result doesn't surprise me, partly because the GOP has been cultivating the religious crowd more vigorously for decades, partly because non-religious people usually feel more affinity for the Democrat party, at least nowadays.
However it wasn't long ago that the Bible Belt and other religious groups were solidly Democrat. That changed when GOP strategists decided to go after those votes and adopted the Family Values theme and the Moral Majority theme. The anti-choice vote was also courted, as it is today.
I have a friend who is still very GOP AND very atheist. He became a GOPer 40+ years ago because he found it more intellectual and congruent with his atheism. He is now chronically annoyed about the Religious Right and wishes they would go back to the Democrat Party "where they belong." He also says he is going to try and fix the GOP but I don't know what his plans are.

[LisaM22]

only those that support separation of church and state are truly religious friendly, government should not be dictating or endorsing religion period

[LisaM22]

maybe we should declare the bush years as the years of the bible :shrug: the years the religious right almost took over

[lunchlady]

I would support The Year of the Bible if it meant somehow promoting actual serious study of the Bible, without a political agenda attached to it. However I suspect that the intention is 90% political.

[Cooper]

I have to wonder what all the other religions in this country think about the Republicans honoring the Bible in this way? If you put them all together, they are probably even with Christians. Are they now considered less American because their religion does not include reading the Bible?


"The Bible?"

My Bible does not include the New Testament.

[Cooper]

only those that support separation of church and state are truly religious friendly, government should not be dictating or endorsing religion period

Exactly. :thumbsup:

[Cooper]

This poll result doesn't surprise me, partly because the GOP has been cultivating the religious crowd more vigorously for decades, partly because non-religious people usually feel more affinity for the Democrat party, at least nowadays.



I am Jewish, a Republican, and I voted for Obama.

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

[lunchlady]

I am Jewish, a Republican, and I voted for Obama.

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

Sorry if I overgeneralized and offended you. I was thinking about the GOP's courting of the fundamentalist Christian vote.
Sorry to be contributing to the feeling of being ignored for non-Christians.

Thank you for voting for Obama.
I would imagine that for Jewish people its annoying to always being choosing between two Christian presidential candidates.
During my childhood in Northern Idaho I would never have believed that a non-white guy could ever be elected POTUS. Maybe a non-Christian will be next.

[LisaM22]

maybe this is the bible they refer, maybe they are just showing support for Joe
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/2975438/used/The%20Home%20Plumber%27s%20Bible

[Cooper]

Sorry if I overgeneralized and offended you. I was thinking about the GOP's courting of the fundamentalist Christian vote.
Sorry to be contributing to the feeling of being ignored for non-Christians.

Thank you for voting for Obama.
I would imagine that for Jewish people its annoying to always being choosing between two Christian presidential candidates.
During my childhood in Northern Idaho I would never have believed that a non-white guy could ever be elected POTUS. Maybe a non-Christian will be next.


The religion of the candidates don't concern me as long as they don't desire to turn the United States into a theocracy.

[LisaM22]

The religion of the candidates don't concern me as long as they don't desire to turn the United States into a theocracy.

:patriot: exactly

[lunchlady]

The religion of the candidates don't concern me as long as they don't desire to turn the United States into a theocracy.

ITA. There are many valid features of many religions, but political empire isn't one of them IMO.

[Cooper]

What on earth does the religion of the candidate have to do with anything? Seems the only people that bring up religion are those on the left. :shrug:

Perhaps it might be due to this:

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

"Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord."

[Cooper]

ITA. There are many valid features of many religions, but political empire isn't one of them IMO.

True.

:thumbup:

[lunchlady]

maybe this is the bible they refer, maybe they are just showing support for Joe
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/2975438/used/The%20Home%20Plumber%27s%20Bible

LOL! A JTP edition of the Good Book? I hope not. Now THAT would be sacrilegious. I bet the book in the link could teach JTP a thing or two though.

[crocdog1]

Something else to consider...

"Thall shall not judge lest ye be judged."

So remember, how you judge others, God will judge you the same.


Gosh, I sure wish the extreme RW of the Republican Party would do this. But, alas, it will not happen.

The GOP, as it is today, has gone from being fiscal conservative, to being a fundamental Religious RW minority who want to force their faith based beliefs and convictions on the American People.

Just My Opinion.

[LisaM22]

Gosh, I sure wish the extreme RW of the Republican Party would do this. But, alas, it will not happen.

The GOP, as it is today, has gone from being fiscal conservative, to being a fundamental Religious RW minority who want to force their faith based beliefs and convictions on the American People.

Just My Opinion.

sadly I agree, the Religious Right has left a stain on the republican party they are unable or unwilling to wash off

[LisaM22]

havn't heard much more about this, guess republicans gave up on the idea?

this is a list of cosponsors to the bill by Paul Broun [R-GA10]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc111-121

Todd Akin [R-MO2]
Michele Bachmann [R-MN6]
James Barrett [R-SC3]
Sanford Bishop [D-GA2]
John Carter [R-TX31]
Michael Conaway [R-TX11]

Nathan Deal [R-GA9]
James Forbes [R-VA4]
Trent Franks [R-AZ2]
John Gingrey [R-GA11]
Louis Gohmert [R-TX1]
Robert Goodlatte [R-VA6]

Duncan Hunter [R-CA52]
Jim Jordan [R-OH4]
Doug Lamborn [R-CO5]
Donald Manzullo [R-IL16]
Kenny Marchant [R-TX24]
Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI11]

Mike McIntyre [D-NC7]
Mike Pence [R-IN6]
George Radanovich [R-CA19]
Mark Souder [R-IN3]
Michael Turner [R-OH3]
Zach Wamp [R-TN3]

Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA3]
Frank Wolf [R-VA10]

[GossipGirl]

The religion of the candidates don't concern me as long as they don't desire to turn the United States into a theocracy.

Hear Hear!!
I can't wait till we're a lovely shade of brown and a lot more atheistic.
Government has no business in the business of religion.
GG

[crocdog1]

This thread is nothing more than a nasty slam against Republicans. When are you guys going to knock this nonsense off?

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http://philanthropy.com/live/2006/11/brooks/

In his new book, Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism, Arthur C. Brooks presents research showing that religious conservatives are more charitable than secular liberals. He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others. Included in his book is an analysis of 15 sets of data that he says all came to the same conclusion.


imo


RE: [In his new book, Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism, Arthur C. Brooks presents research showing that religious conservatives are more charitable than secular liberals. He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others. Included in his book is an analysis of 15 sets of data that he says all came to the same conclusion.]

Yes, Compassionate Conservatism. Like when the American People give monies to WALL STREET for the purpose of freeing up credit on mortgages and foreclosures. Instead of doing this, WALL STREET uses the money to give themselves huge salaries and bonuses.

Ah yes. Compassionate Conservatism. The American People know it well. Like when Eric Cantor told a lady whose relative had cancer but no health insurance, to go to a charity hospital.

http://themoderatevoice.com/47302/eric-cantor-and-republican-compassion/

Just My Humble Opinion

[crocdog1]

Anyone else notice how the GOP keeps trying to keep the secret that the extreme Right Wingers in their party are fundamentalists who seek to force their social faith based religious agenda on the American People?

Sad it is to say that it is the Right Wingers who control the Republican Party as it is today.

Just My Humble Opinion.

[LisaM22]

back in January 2001

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/01/20010123-3.html

Bush quote
" Today, I seek God's guidance and His blessings on our land and all our people. Knowing that I cannot succeed in this task without the favor of God"

[LisaM22]

legal_eagle said "Yet 70% if Americans are Christian?"

actually 70%+\- of Americans may believe in a god, but 70% are not Christians, there is a difference

70% of Americans say Christianity is not the only path to eternal salvation.


http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=454

"Seventy percent of those affiliated with a religion believe that many religions can lead to eternal salvation. And only about one-quarter of those surveyed believe there is only one way to interpret their religion’s teachings."

[LisaM22]

I can answer that. NO. But then He said that the day would come when people in power, using the Word of God would do the works of Satan and many would be fooled. Is what is going on now what He was talking about? He was all about love, forgiveness, helping those with less, sharing, caring for your fellow man no matter what their circumstance etc. etc. etc. And our country was founded on the belief that all are equal and all religions should be deemed the same way. No religion should have sway in our government or have any part of the government's decision making. Religion should be kept totally separate.

I think so, look at how the religious right was preaching god and then they lost, now we get to see the real sheep in wolfs clothing as they show their true colors and it ain't pretty