Drew Peterson Arrested!!

[nana2]

i don't have a story to tell, thank god..
But i will say, sob, low life, cheap, bastar#$, fu@@ head, uneducated, ignorant, bottom of the bucket, losers, disgraceful.
Cowards are what these type of men are.
Jmho

amen!!!! Ita!!!

Ilinois is a joke an absolute disgraceful JOKE on DV!! My dd's ex served <half> of an 18 month sentence for multiple domestic batterys!! One (the final one ) while she was pregnant with my granddaughter!! (final as in she left him finally not that she died thank God)

[aproudmom]

I don't have a story to tell, thank God..
But I will say, SOB, Low life, cheap, bastar#$, fu@@ head, uneducated, Ignorant, bottom of the bucket, losers, disgraceful.
Cowards are what these type of men are.
JMHO

:thumbsup: well you just about summed that one up Dianna

[aproudmom]

amen!!!! Ita!!!

Ilinois is a joke an absolute disgraceful JOKE on DV!! My dd's ex served <half> of an 18 month sentence for multiple domestic batterys!! One (the final one ) while she was pregnant with my granddaughter!! (final as in she left him finally not that she died thank God)

Thank god at first I thought you were going to say she did not make it out..I think alot of states are jokes..I am in Indiana not so sure it could get worse than IL though..

[aproudmom]

If Kathleen filed 18 police reports on Drew and told people if she wound up dead and it looked like an accident--then it would be Drew,,,Why, oh why did she not get out with her kids??? Why would Stacy initially provide Drew with an alibi and why did both these women commit adultery with him when he was still married and much older?? It just blows my mind. There was yet another very young woman ready to marry him and have yet more children. When are women going to start taking some responsibility for their own survival and their children's welfare?

What is the attraction to this man or any man with a questionable history of violence? Do they really think they can change him? I don't get it. I don't get staying one more night in the house with a man who had made me fear for my life. Kathleen and Stacy were not without family.

Stacy and Kathleen DID NOT deserve to die for adultery of bad choices. They did not deserve physical or emotional abuse. I just can't help but feel, they could have saved themselves. I don't know what it would take for women to understand that it is not acceptable to live with an abusive man. NOT in these days when options are provided for them.

sorry doc just seen my PM thank you

[aproudmom]

All I had was the old PDF file and I can't link that. So the letter I posted on the links thread. It's kathleens letter to the DA. I've had it since 2007/08 along with the autopsy from when stacy went missing and we all investigated his wives.

I really believe that he knew he could not let Stacy's body be found, after Kathleens botched death. He made some really stupid mistakes and now they are going to bite him in the a$$. I hope it really hurts.

I wondered if it was posted anywhere..thanks bugout

[aproudmom]

All I had was the old PDF file and I can't link that. So the letter I posted on the links thread. It's kathleens letter to the DA. I've had it since 2007/08 along with the autopsy from when stacy went missing and we all investigated his wives.

I really believe that he knew he could not let Stacy's body be found, after Kathleens botched death. He made some really stupid mistakes and now they are going to bite him in the a$$. I hope it really hurts.

oh and yeah he finally realized he should have had her cremated he told his friends that on a wire tape IIRC

[aproudmom]

All I had was the old PDF file and I can't link that. So the letter I posted on the links thread. It's kathleens letter to the DA. I've had it since 2007/08 along with the autopsy from when stacy went missing and we all investigated his wives.

I really believe that he knew he could not let Stacy's body be found, after Kathleens botched death. He made some really stupid mistakes and now they are going to bite him in the a$$. I hope it really hurts.

OK I am even more P**** reading what you put in the links:cursing:
J/K thanks a bunch bugout appreciate it..she was let down she should not be dead he makes me sick..

[aproudmom]

Boy O Boy sure sounds like KS really had a hard time with not only DP but also SP before they were divorced..not blaming her she was young and doing as she was told..and now look she is missing and dead IMO

Thanks again bugout for posting that in the links

[aproudmom]

Read Drew Peterson's Indictment
http://blogs.discovery.com/files/petersonindictment.pdf

[aproudmom]

http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/drew-peterson-in-jail-joel-brodsky-on-vacation
Joel and Drew: Best Buds or The Two Stooges
Despite the fact that his client, Drew Peterson, has been arrested and sits in the Will County Adult Detention Facility in Joliet, Joel Brodsky remains in New York City for a mother’s day holiday with his wife. As of this morning, he still has not spoken with his client.

[Mayasmimi]

http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/drew-peterson-in-jail-joel-brodsky-on-vacation
Joel and Drew: Best Buds or The Two Stooges
Despite the fact that his client, Drew Peterson, has been arrested and sits in the Will County Adult Detention Facility in Joliet, Joel Brodsky remains in New York City for a mother’s day holiday with his wife. As of this morning, he still has not spoken with his client.

Sorry, was out this evening with my ladies. I could be wrong, but didn't Brodsky make it seem like he wasn't allowed to see his client? Was way busy at work today. My first chance to catch up.

Way late for me, and nearly early morning for many of yall. Night.

[doctor_J]

Whatever disgust and revulsion I felt toward DP has been greatly magnified by reading KS's letter to the state attorney that bugout posted in the links thread. You can't help but realize that SP helped in Drew's torment of her (Kathleen writes about it). NEITHER woman deserved to die. The police have a lot to answer for in these 2 deaths. Unless they kept refusing to prosecute (Drew's wives, I mean). I don't know the details and look forward to hearing the truth and seeing this monster locked away, smirk and all.

[doctor_J]

I just realized that Kathleen wrote that letter in Nov.2002 and died in Mar. 2004. What was happening in the intervening time? Did he just live with Stacy and return occasionally to beat Kathleen? Was Stacy involved in Kathleen's death?

I'm sure I'll get answers in the trial. Hope they find Stacy's body. Maybe she is hiding from him because she really does know he will kill her and once he's permanently locked up, she can return. Wishful thinking.

[RayStar]

I just saw LKL and Judge Jean Perino wants to see if the police dept. in Bollingbrook will be investigated for covering up the complaints. Seems to me it is still the same old thing protect the officers at any cost. I think Drew is so guilty and is still trying to convince himself that he is innocent or they deserved to die because of their childhood upbringing. UGH

[kellabeck]

Drew's behavior was enabled by the Bolingbrook PD, IMO, and there should be consequences for that after all this is done.

According to Steve Dahl's blog (he's the former morning radio talker in Chi who used to "do" Drew so hilariously) Drew recycled the "library books" line. He used it when he was first arrested on the gun charge.

The gun charge was dropped, wasn't it? So it seems Drew thinks he'll get out of this as well, as he got out of everything.

[Lake_Gal]

I am so glad they finally arrested this creep. After spending a couple nights in jail I wonder if he has realized yet it isn't a joke.

I sure hope we get this trial on TV to watch. He is just arrogant enough to want to take the stand. And I do not want to miss that.

[Myka]

I am not sure what all they have they have not shared that and really dont think they will tell all they have until trial..this is the timeline..sorry wish I could help you out..

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1563959,drew-peterson-timeline-050709.article

thanks MOM!

[bkwits]

im glad you all read her letter. It has haunted me, truly. After her death, then I am sure he got the insurance policy and he and stacy then moved into his present home and lived pretty well imo.

I dont now if stacy was involved but she sure did take part in the filming incident with Kathleen's own stolen camera. Stacy's behavior was not pretty, but sadly in the end she ended up just like Kathleen and had to have endured the threats, most likely by DP "I'll do the same thing to you" and of course, she knew he would.

I hope that in the nxt two weeks he is indicted on her murder as well.
That way he can be labled a serial wife killer. His behavior is that of a sociopath. Three squares and a little bling. I hope it drives him bonkers to have no one to listen to his BS. Grrrrrrrrrrr

I will look for the link to her autopsy report. It may also just be PDF.


Iirc, Kathleen's insurance policy was paid to her two sons. Of course, since they are minors, it is controlled by DrewP. DrewP is being sued by the Savio family for $300K for wrongful death.

[sammy]

I am so glad they finally arrested this creep. After spending a couple nights in jail I wonder if he has realized yet it isn't a joke.

I sure hope we get this trial on TV to watch. He is just arrogant enough to want to take the stand. And I do not want to miss that.


I am sure DP will want to take the stand.
He won't be able to stop himself.
He is so cocky and so sure he can BS his way out of everything, that he would not be able to NOT take the stand to try to talk his way out of this.
The jerk just finished with yet another media tour on his own sorry behalf ... he just LOVES talking about himself.

There was an interview on TV yesterday (sorry I don't have a link), and one of the people on the panel was a psychologist I believe
When asked by the host if he thought DP would take the stand in his own defense he said "yes definitely". He explained that DP had once told him that he knew he had the gift of gab + could talk his way out of anything. The guest also mentioned that DP has a few "tells" - one is that when he is lying that he often touches his left arm/shoulder.
I am gonna go back and look at some of the old DP interviews and see if I can spot that specific "tell" when DP is asked some questions from reporters.

I do think that if DP does take the stand ... he will be his own worst witness called to testify.
Yeah he's a good con-artist, a good BS'er, a smooth talker - but I think he will go too far - and when up on that stand the jury will see through him.
His big fat mouth just CANNOT stay shut and he will do himself in.

[bkwits]

If Kathleen filed 18 police reports on Drew and told people if she wound up dead and it looked like an accident--then it would be Drew,,,Why, oh why did she not get out with her kids??? Why would Stacy initially provide Drew with an alibi and why did both these women commit adultery with him when he was still married and much older?? It just blows my mind. There was yet another very young woman ready to marry him and have yet more children. When are women going to start taking some responsibility for their own survival and their children's welfare?

What is the attraction to this man or any man with a questionable history of violence? Do they really think they can change him? I don't get it. I don't get staying one more night in the house with a man who had made me fear for my life. Kathleen and Stacy were not without family.

Stacy and Kathleen DID NOT deserve to die for adultery of bad choices. They did not deserve physical or emotional abuse. I just can't help but feel, they could have saved themselves. I don't know what it would take for women to understand that it is not acceptable to live with an abusive man. NOT in these days when options are provided for them.

I think Kathleen tried in every way to get out. She had divorced Drew and the property settlement was to be finalized in a couple of weeks. She prob couldn't sell the house until the property settlement. She was going to school to be able to support herself and her children. Her family lived nearby and were supportive. She cried out for protection. What else could she have done?

I am not sure that Stacy gave Drew an alibi. Drew and Stacy lived right around the corner from Kathleen. Drew had the boys that weekend (that KS died). He could have popped over there to KS's house anytime and did the deed. IMO

Stacy came from an extremely dysfunctional family. She was the perfect "victim" for DP. Some sources say she was only 16 when they met. As she matured, Stacy also came to see what an abusive, hateful man that she was married to. She also sought a way out by getting more education and, reportedly, was ready to leave DP.

As for this last woman, Christina, I have no explanation. I give credit to her dad for sticking up for her and staying on top of DP. I hope she has seen the light. But, sadly, she may not have.

RIP, Kathleen and Stacy

[Mamie]

I just realized that Kathleen wrote that letter in Nov.2002 and died in Mar. 2004. What was happening in the intervening time? Did he just live with Stacy and return occasionally to beat Kathleen? Was Stacy involved in Kathleen's death?

I'm sure I'll get answers in the trial. Hope they find Stacy's body. Maybe she is hiding from him because she really does know he will kill her and once he's permanently locked up, she can return. Wishful thinking.

I agree that it's wishful thinking that Stacy is still alive. I wonder if we'll ever find a trace of her. I think he knew how to dispose of her too well for that. JMO

[Anakerie]

Drew who? Exactly.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-schmich-10-may10,0,2787177.column

lol, I like this article about Drew... :laugh:

[aproudmom]

Whatever disgust and revulsion I felt toward DP has been greatly magnified by reading KS's letter to the state attorney that bugout posted in the links thread. You can't help but realize that SP helped in Drew's torment of her (Kathleen writes about it). NEITHER woman deserved to die. The police have a lot to answer for in these 2 deaths. Unless they kept refusing to prosecute (Drew's wives, I mean). I don't know the details and look forward to hearing the truth and seeing this monster locked away, smirk and all.

doc I have always wondered what SP did know I am not so sure she played apart in it but she gave him his alibi and she was very young and naive I think he knew she was leaving and she may have even told him that day and we don't know what was said she may have said something to him perhaps do not forget I know what you did and so on so he had to make sure he shut her up to never talk about anything..I pray she never knew before the fact and yes I have read a lot about how they flaunted in front of KS but she was 17 and with a controlling jerk that she felt was her knight in shining honor...and I am sure they threw her concerns for her life with a grain of salt because he was one of their own a lot of people have blood on their hands and I am a little shocked no civil suit has been brought against the BB PD involved with her dry bathtub murder they even failed to open their eyes when she did die of a Accident and we now know a murder even the 1st coroner said it was suspicious but back then they had coroners jury so he did not have the final say and one on that jury was a Friend and cop of DP...I hope the family adds to their civil suit and not just DP IMO alot of people let this poor women down and she is dead and her children are with no mother or father now..and SP kids also have no mommy or Father..seeing them takin out yesterday with blankets to cover them and you could see their little feet walking to the police cars was so heartbreaking SP children are still young and here they come in and take them away but glad they did it that way at least now they are thinking of the children DP sure never did..and he took their Mommy's away from them...I hope he rots in H****...JMO

[aproudmom]

I just finished reading Kathleen's letter to the State attorney and I'm baffled that something was never done about this. She even suggested a lie detector test to show good cause for this letter she wrote.
These police officers and everyone else trickles down to one thing and one thing only. They look the other way and protect each others back.
This letter was written in 2002 and he murdered her in 2004.

Reading back and watching DP's step brother on GMA I did not find he was incapable of telling his story. The way DP painted his step brother you would think the man was walking around with 3 eye's and very mentally disabled from speaking out to anyone.
Regardless of his past or present I think the Prosecutors should give him a shot. I am aware the defense attorney will attempt to eat him alive but his past has nothing to do with what occurred on that night in October, 2007...Of course my opinion on the disappearance of Stacy Peterson is based on the Investigators coming forward with another charge of murder for the murder of DP's 4th wife.
I'm beginning to think DP had more then himself contributing to both wives murder. After all, he did ask his brother in law if he loved him enough to kill for him. Maybe someone in the department. It wouldn't be the first time.
Darn, that blue barrel will come to surface, someday. Someday soon I hope.
JMHO

I think he ask him for a reason to use his past drug history in
if need be and he did just that but Lisa Bloom said on 2 not 1 show last night he has been clean and sober for 8yrs well before SP went missing..after I saw the LD test results I am not so sure you are not right..some think he had KS murdered and may have not done it himself..I am not so sure but I think it needs to be looked at..

[aproudmom]

one thing we know for sure is that they removed Kathleens tub from her residence during the investigation. I wonder, if he snuck up on her when she was getting into the tub, or however he got her into the tub, that if he was attempting to drown her and she started to fight, she would have at that time rose up and could have hit her head on the faucet. I always thought he strangled her, and I'm still not sure she drowned, the water would have washed away all the blood as it drained out, since it didn't there couldnt have been much water. I wonder if the laceration on her head would match the ridges of the tub faucet.
anyway, we all know some of them can be sharp. Some people have even gotten their toes stuck inside them :eek:

Just thoughts, how her hair could have been all bloody if she drowned.
Maybe DP likes waterboarding techniques, and if he does I can see her hitting her head on the faucet. When someone holds your face to water you'll do anything to get up.

I think you could be right..I have tried and tried to figure it out and not sure if that tub had the cheap faucet if so there is no way but if it was metal then who knows she fought there was bruises on her front her nails were cut I have no doubt someone was in the home maybe even waiting for her to get in the bath he got in once and she had no idea he was in the house..good catch I never thought of that..but she did have to be alive to drowned so there had to be water at some point if your dead you do not breathe in so water does not go into the lungs..IIRC

does anyone know her niece has said she had knew she did not die of a accident cause she knew her bathing habits..does anyone know what she means like was there a certain time did she play music did she not bother getting a towel or clothes before she got in..a lot of people bath around the same time everyday or pretty much everyday...and nothing was disturbed on the tub from what I read

[aproudmom]

I just finished reading Kathleen's letter to the State attorney and I'm baffled that something was never done about this. She even suggested a lie detector test to show good cause for this letter she wrote.
These police officers and everyone else trickles down to one thing and one thing only. They look the other way and protect each others back.
This letter was written in 2002 and he murdered her in 2004.

Reading back and watching DP's step brother on GMA I did not find he was incapable of telling his story. The way DP painted his step brother you would think the man was walking around with 3 eye's and very mentally disabled from speaking out to anyone.
Regardless of his past or present I think the Prosecutors should give him a shot. I am aware the defense attorney will attempt to eat him alive but his past has nothing to do with what occurred on that night in October, 2007...Of course my opinion on the disappearance of Stacy Peterson is based on the Investigators coming forward with another charge of murder for the murder of DP's 4th wife.
I'm beginning to think DP had more then himself contributing to both wives murder. After all, he did ask his brother in law if he loved him enough to kill for him. Maybe someone in the department. It wouldn't be the first time.
Darn, that blue barrel will come to surface, someday. Someday soon I hope.
JMHO

I have wondered what went on for the other 2yrs I think she had to continue to call 911 off and on but IMO he knew he had 2 days before the divorce was final IIRC that is a pretty big motive to me..1 million in life insurance no spousal support no child support I can go on and on..he did not want to give her anything so he made she he did not have to..and did I not read him and SP only lived like a few blocks away from KS? I only wish her family had said to her you are coming to stay with us for awhile I lay no blame on them but if one of my sisters feared for her life you better believe I would never leave her alone...

[aproudmom]

Kathleen's family ought to sue the crap out of the police department who did absolutely nothing to protect her. How about the DA? Nothing.

I can imagine the fear this womn endured....he wasn't going to pay child support...clue?

This guy better hang. You know he also killed Stacy..

What a demon.:sneaky:

ITA they should all be held accountable and thank goodness their was new people in there and was not going to allow this to be overlooked I think this family needs to add a few names to the civil suit they want no money it is for the kids even SP kids they said should have some..so a lot of people need to pay up...they also failed these children IMO..His freaking uncle was over the money lol yeah he handed it right over to DP..what a joke..

[aproudmom]

DP took Kathleens video camera, and when he attacked her that day and pinned her down in the lawn, she looked up and realized Stacy was in his vehicle, had her video camera and was filming the entire thing.
DP and SP used to taunt her according to her reports. They would drive by and flip her off, things of that nature, or skate by her house.
Stalking behavior that DP always engaged in with women. Stacy complianed he had been following her stalking her everywhere she went.


:(

Don't forget did she not get arrested that day not DP or SCP since they were not married at that time she was not SP..I have no doubt they flaunted and did all they could to hurt her fgs he was dating a 17yr old and the LE knew this is that not against the law in IL? O wait the law do not apply to DP...never mind

[aproudmom]

Drew who? Exactly.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-schmich-10-may10,0,2787177.column

lol, I like this article about Drew... :laugh:

:laugh:

so I was looking at this timeline and his second wife VC also said he told her he could kill her and may it look like a accident :ohmy: well that is one good witness for the Pros.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_timeline.flash,0,2550643.flash

[aproudmom]

I think Kathleen tried in every way to get out. She had divorced Drew and the property settlement was to be finalized in a couple of weeks. She prob couldn't sell the house until the property settlement. She was going to school to be able to support herself and her children. Her family lived nearby and were supportive. She cried out for protection. What else could she have done?

I am not sure that Stacy gave Drew an alibi. Drew and Stacy lived right around the corner from Kathleen. Drew had the boys that weekend (that KS died). He could have popped over there to KS's house anytime and did the deed. IMO

Stacy came from an extremely dysfunctional family. She was the perfect "victim" for DP. Some sources say she was only 16 when they met. As she matured, Stacy also came to see what an abusive, hateful man that she was married to. She also sought a way out by getting more education and, reportedly, was ready to leave DP.

As for this last woman, Christina, I have no explanation. I give credit to her dad for sticking up for her and staying on top of DP. I hope she has seen the light. But, sadly, she may not have.

RIP, Kathleen and Stacy

Wonderful post and I agree about Christina's father he did all he could even asking the neighbor to watch their every move he finally had to pretend to like this jerk so he could stay on top of what was going on with his daughter since she was a adult and he had no control over her bad decisions I am not so sure she is over DP yet hopefully at some point she will her father said her and DP had been planning for this and wanted her to take the kids well heck that will never happen but being a young mother of 2 and someone says everything is yours if I go to the slammer just take care of the kids..he was playing her and she is lucky KS spoke from her grave cause she could have been #3..jmo

[sunstar]

IMO yes they will..have heard it not only on her show but others

thanks for putting my mind at ease! :smile: I saw the Dateline later last night and I really am hoping there is justice for Stacy too. There is absolutely no way she ran off and left her kids. I've always felt that way but just seeing it last night confirmed my opinion. MOO

[LILMANMAX]

What a sociopath this DP is. :angry:

I cannot believe it took this long to indict him. He will make a great case study for FBI profilers.

Justice for Kathleen and Stacy.

[aproudmom]

Iirc, Kathleen's insurance policy was paid to her two sons. Of course, since they are minors, it is controlled by DrewP. DrewP is being sued by the Savio family for $300K for wrongful death.

That is why they are were upset they feel he was not using her Life Ins. on the children it was not suppose to be handled by him his uncle was suppose to be over the kids money and it was pretty much handed over to DP and the family said on national TV several times last night they want the civil suit only for the child they get nothing they even want some to be used to raise SP kids he was raising those kids on his own cause he killed their mothers he should never see a penny from their deaths..and he will continue to make money from the slammer and I pray every bit of it is taken and put in the trust for the kids..

Also someone ask about this being on TV IIRC they said no cameras are allowed there so not so sure we will see the trial..

[bkwits]

Don't forget did she not get arrested that day not DP or SCP since they were not married at that time she was not SP..I have no doubt they flaunted and did all they could to hurt her fgs he was dating a 17yr old and the LE knew this is that not against the law in IL? O wait the law do not apply to DP...never mind

17 is the age of consent in IL. IIRC, BPD did investigate DrewP's relationship with Stacy but could do nothing about it since it was legal.

BPD did try to get rid of DrewP I believe it was 1985. He sued and got reinstated. DrewP has more recently said that officers he had worked with for years wouldn't even shake his hand. This was after Stacy went missing. So I don't think he was well-liked. IMO

[aproudmom]

thanks for putting my mind at ease! :smile: I saw the Dateline later last night and I really am hoping there is justice for Stacy too. There is absolutely no way she ran off and left her kids. I've always felt that way but just seeing it last night confirmed my opinion. MOO

they have 2 weeks to meet so don't be shocked to see them charge him with her death..or at least we can hope and pray it happens but they are to meet for the next 2 Thursdays and a lot of people think he will also be charged with her murder..cross fingers

[sunstar]

they have 2 weeks to meet so don't be shocked to see them charge him with her death..or at least we can hope and pray it happens but they are to meet for the next 2 Thursdays and a lot of people think he will also be charged with her murder..cross fingers

I have them crossed! :smile: I think she knew what he'd done to Kathleen and was threatening to leave him so he got rid of his "problem". It's just been too long now since she went missing for her to be in hiding somewhere. MOO

[penguin01]

thanks for putting my mind at ease! :smile: I saw the Dateline later last night and I really am hoping there is justice for Stacy too. There is absolutely no way she ran off and left her kids. I've always felt that way but just seeing it last night confirmed my opinion. MOO

I saw that show last night. Drew said "those girls" (meaning his ex-wives) "all had mental problems". He is truly amazing, isn't he? He has got to be the only person in the world that doesn't have mental problems in his view. And his attorney had been crowing that Drew passed not one, but two polygraph exams: turned out that is not true!
Clearly the attorney has mental problems if he thought that lie wouldn't come out.

I feel sure there will be justice for Stacy down the road.

[Anakerie]

they have 2 weeks to meet so don't be shocked to see them charge him with her death..or at least we can hope and pray it happens but they are to meet for the next 2 Thursdays and a lot of people think he will also be charged with her murder..cross fingers
2 more Thursdays... We can only hope that they hand down an indictment for Stacy. I read somewhere that Lisa Stebic's family are hoping this grand jury does something for Lisa as well...

[aproudmom]

17 is the age of consent in IL. IIRC, BPD did investigate DrewP's relationship with Stacy but could do nothing about it since it was legal.

BPD did try to get rid of DrewP I believe it was 1985. He sued and got reinstated. DrewP has more recently said that officers he had worked with for years wouldn't even shake his hand. This was after Stacy went missing. So I don't think he was well-liked. IMO

well guess they could not prove she was 16 then...and I knew they tried to get rid of him but perhaps they did not try hard enough..and I do think he had some buddies in there I know 2 I heard one being on the coroners jury who told all the others there is no way he could do this IMO that is a huge conflict of interest..no matter what they overlooked his wife's death for some reason..and you just said it bkwits after SP went missing they would not shake his hand maybe they were afraid to get blood on their hands I feel he manipulated the whole system for many years..jmo

[True2Blues]

A show of hands, who was surprised last night to hear that Drew Peterson showed "Deception" ie: LIED during his lie detector test about Stacy Peterson?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

Nope?

Me Either.

[aproudmom]

17 is the age of consent in IL. IIRC, BPD did investigate DrewP's relationship with Stacy but could do nothing about it since it was legal.

BPD did try to get rid of DrewP I believe it was 1985. He sued and got reinstated. DrewP has more recently said that officers he had worked with for years wouldn't even shake his hand. This was after Stacy went missing. So I don't think he was well-liked. IMO

just wanted to let you know I was not being rude about your reply..it is just that I am outraged he has played all these people for so many years and got away with it...just wanted to make sure you did not take my reply as sounding rude was not meant to be...I am just glad he is right where he belongs:biggrin:

[sunstar]

I saw that show last night. Drew said "those girls" (meaning his ex-wives) "all had mental problems". He is truly amazing, isn't he? He has got to be the only person in the world that doesn't have mental problems in his view. And his attorney had been crowing that Drew passed not one, but two polygraph exams: turned out that is not true!
Clearly the attorney has mental problems if he thought that lie wouldn't come out.

I feel sure there will be justice for Stacy down the road.

I think that was one of the most disgusting things I've heard him say. I'm glad they showed some of those old interviews of his to refresh my memory just how despicable he is. :angry: MOO

[sunstar]

A show of hands, who was surprised last night to hear that Drew Peterson showed "Deception" ie: LIED during his lie detector test about Stacy Peterson?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

Nope?

Me Either.

I wasn't at all surprised.

[True2Blues]

Hi True...
I did not know he was given a lie detector test in respect to Stacy Peterson's disappearance. Is there anything on this, yet? I would love to read it.
Thanx

These were short little tests, they talked about them last night. Thid has the questions and answers. The man who gave the test did say that he was told he could not ask Peterson if he hired someone to kill his third wife. Which was what he wanted to ask about her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434441,00.html

[aproudmom]

Yes, and maybe one of those non-hand shakers were an accomplice with Kathleen murder. Ya know...The perfect crime.

that has been talked about before..boy it is even hard for me to think that way I am from a very large family of LE but there are dirty cops out there and they do watch each others back..why no report when KS called 911? she said it herself they never even filled a report when she called them..they protect their brothers in blue or some do anyway..I do know my family would never cover for anyone and I can say that without a doubt..they do honor their fallen Brothers and Sisters they try to go to all the funerals they went to Oakdale CA and PA all in the same month their brothers were shot and killed in the line of duty those are the good cops the ones I look up to..not scum like DP and whoever his buddies were..

[aproudmom]

These were short little tests, they talked about them last night. Thid has the questions and answers. The man who gave the test did say that he was told he could not ask Peterson if he hired someone to kill his third wife. Which was what he wanted to ask about her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434441,00.html

I saw it on last night also and had not heard about it..the guy that wrote a book with him ask him to do it..and then ask him if he knew how to pass one..and was only able to ask certain questions..but made me wonder if someone else did not kill KS for him..he is a con artist those test can be passed if you know how that is why they are not allowed in the court of law..

[aproudmom]

so is this why the family was asking for 300 thousand since they felt it was ruled a murder he should have to put those funds back in a trust for the kids and he should not profit off her death..just by the sale of marital property...hummm

Karen Conti, a Chicago attorney, reviewed the documents of Savio's estate. Conti said she believes the will was beneficial to Peterson
Peterson received jewelry, furniture and $288,000 from the sale of Savio's home

[bkwits]

just wanted to let you know I was not being rude about your reply..it is just that I am outraged he has played all these people for so many years and got away with it...just wanted to make sure you did not take my reply as sounding rude was not meant to be...I am just glad he is right where he belongs:biggrin:


I certainly took no offense at your post. I didn't think it was at all rude. I agree that DrewP is a master manipulator. From what I hear, a lot of people didn't like him even before Kathleen died. I live about 30 miles or so from Bolingbrook. I know a couple of people who know people involved with DrewP and Kathleen. I was told that many of DrewP's friends? and acquaintances suspected Drew when Kathleen died. "Everybody thought he did it." Now this is hearsay, so I cannot provide a link.

My stepson lives not far from DrewP and passes nearby on his way to and from work. He said he stopped one day when Geraldo, Mark Fuhrman, and Keith Olberman were in front of the house. My ss had his pic taken with DrewP. I didn't see the photo, but, my stepdtr, said it was disgusting. Drewp had his arm around my ss. His sis asked him how he could let that murderer put his arm around him. My ss told me that he talked to DrewP for 45 min. I think he, my ss, pretended to be a journalist (he does stupid things like tha). :blushing:

[bkwits]

so is this why the family was asking for 300 thousand since they felt it was ruled a murder he should have to put those funds back in a trust for the kids and he should not profit off her death..just by the sale of marital property...hummm

Karen Conti, a Chicago attorney, reviewed the documents of Savio's estate. Conti said she believes the will was beneficial to Peterson
Peterson received jewelry, furniture and $288,000 from the sale of Savio's home

I think the Savios also want the acknowledgement that DrewP killed their loved one. Remember the Goldman family sued OJ for wrongful death even after he was acquited for the murder of Ron Goldman, and they won. I think they've yet to see any money but they won a moral victory, IMO.

[bkwits]

Does Ill. have the death penalty?

I'm hoping this GJ will return a true bill for murder1 on Stacy also.

If faced with the death penalty.... maybe DrewP. will cut a deal to reveal where he hid Stacy in order to avoid death....?

I hope.

Illinois does have the death penalty, however there has been a moratorium on the DP since about 2000. Ex Gov. George Ryan (now in prison for his own misdeeds) placed the moratorium because there were so many on death row who were found to be innocent, mostly by DNA evidence. In fact there were more people released from death row than where executed in the period of 1978 to 2000. (My dates are from memory so maybe off a year or two). Succeeding Govs. have upheld the moratorium.

I kind hope he does not get the DP, because then he will get all kinds of attention and consideration. I'd vote for LWOP. IMO

[sunstar]

The neighbor says he called a locksmith to open the door and after the door was opened the neighbors went in while Drew was telling them to check up stairs. The neighbor said he walked into the bathroom and found her laying in the bathtub naked and the bathtub was empty. Her hair was still wet, according to DP.
They asked him if he found it interesting that the bathtub was dry and empty and he said no because they tested the tub and it had a small link where the drain stopper was.

It is obvious that he knew what was going to be found to not go in and check without calling a locksmith. IF DP thought it was unusual, why would he not be more worried at that point.
He claims he did not have a key to the house. However, after reading the letter from her to the State attorney's office DP had rigged a garage door opener so he could go in and out when he pleased. I don't believe for a minute that DP did not have access to his home where his boys resided.
This will be a very interesting case/trial when it come to be.
I always thought it interesting that he had somebody else go inside ~ and didn't believe the need for the locksmith either. And why would he tell them to check upstairs unless he knew they'd find her? IIRC, he had the kids that weekend, so why would he be concerned about somebody checking on her? MOO

[aproudmom]

I certainly took no offense at your post. I didn't think it was at all rude. I agree that DrewP is a master manipulator. From what I hear, a lot of people didn't like him even before Kathleen died. I live about 30 miles or so from Bolingbrook. I know a couple of people who know people involved with DrewP and Kathleen. I was told that many of DrewP's friends? and acquaintances suspected Drew when Kathleen died. "Everybody thought he did it." Now this is hearsay, so I cannot provide a link.

My stepson lives not far from DrewP and passes nearby on his way to and from work. He said he stopped one day when Geraldo, Mark Fuhrman, and Keith Olberman were in front of the house. My ss had his pic taken with DrewP. I didn't see the photo, but, my stepdtr, said it was disgusting. Drewp had his arm around my ss. His sis asked him how he could let that murderer put his arm around him. My ss told me that he talked to DrewP for 45 min. I think he, my ss, pretended to be a journalist (he does stupid things like tha). :blushing:

ok great just wanted to make sure sometimes I read it again and think o no did not word it right..boy so you are close.. did his good friends not wear wire tapes for LE? well I am sure alot of people around there are happy he is in the Ol slammer..some guy was on one show last nite he called in and was saying how he rode around on his bike and hung on all the girls like he was some superstar...yuck..I can not stand the sight of a pic let alone him touching me...lol..I have never looked to see how close it is to me here in the wonderful State of IN..:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

I never did read if the boys were with him that night. Did he leave the boys in the car or did he leave them at home. I haven't read or heard.
Back then the kids were really young.:confused:

If the boys were not with him I would ask him why he chose not to have them with him if he had no Idea they would find Kathleen dead. Hmmmm...

I am not sure they could have been with SP or in the car just know he said omg what am I going to tell my kids..he had it set up that way saying if he went in she would say he took something well if your that concerned why worry about that bust the darn door down or call another officer to go in..with out know I doubt his kids were there even though as sick as he is would not have put it passed him to send them in to find their mother dead..thank goodness that did not happen he just sent in her best friend

[vonna]

I think the Savios also want the acknowledgement that DrewP killed their loved one. Remember the Goldman family sued OJ for wrongful death even after he was acquited for the murder of Ron Goldman, and they won. I think they've yet to see any money but they won a moral victory, IMO.

Any settlement from DP should include an extra half million dollars because of the "obnoxious" factor.

[aproudmom]

Illinois does have the death penalty, however there has been a moratorium on the DP since about 2000. Ex Gov. George Ryan (now in prison for his own misdeeds) placed the moratorium because there were so many on death row who were found to be innocent, mostly by DNA evidence. In fact there were more people released from death row than where executed in the period of 1978 to 2000. (My dates are from memory so maybe off a year or two). Succeeding Govs. have upheld the moratorium.

I kind hope he does not get the DP, because then he will get all kinds of attention and consideration. I'd vote for LWOP. IMO

ITA I say LWOP he would be just as old or perhaps dead before he got the needle anyway with all the appeals they have..just lock him up and throw the key away..he has wasted enough money from the Sate of IL just like the stunt the other day his lawyers planned not to be there but they went ahead and loaded his A$$ over there to appear in court knowing they had no intentions of showing up there..he was to busy talking to Lisa Bloom and tons of others..Two peas in a pod IMO perfect Lawyer for him..

[aproudmom]

Illinois does have the death penalty, however there has been a moratorium on the DP since about 2000. Ex Gov. George Ryan (now in prison for his own misdeeds) placed the moratorium because there were so many on death row who were found to be innocent, mostly by DNA evidence. In fact there were more people released from death row than where executed in the period of 1978 to 2000. (My dates are from memory so maybe off a year or two). Succeeding Govs. have upheld the moratorium.

I kind hope he does not get the DP, because then he will get all kinds of attention and consideration. I'd vote for LWOP. IMO

I can not even keep up with the Gov. of that state...lol they can actually ask for it is what I understood but nah LWOP don't waste any more money on him than they have to..if I see a dream team coming out I will scream

[aproudmom]

I always thought it interesting that he had somebody else go inside ~ and didn't believe the need for the locksmith either. And why would he tell them to check upstairs unless he knew they'd find her? IIRC, he had the kids that weekend, so why would he be concerned about somebody checking on her? MOO

that was the only smart thing he has done....
just about race time...:thumbsup:

[kellabeck]

:laugh:

so I was looking at this timeline and his second wife VC also said he told her he could kill her and may it look like a accident :ohmy: well that is one good witness for the Pros.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_timeline.flash,0,2550643.flash

But the defense THs will say-- but he DIDN'T kill her, did he?? Just like their defense of Spector-- that the women he threatened should not be allowed to testify about his threatening them with guns, that those incidents weren't like Lana's because he didn't shoot them.

[aproudmom]

Any settlement from DP should include an extra half million dollars because of the "obnoxious" factor.

I just hope they can make sure he does not make a penny off his story and if he does go after it just like the Goldman's have god bless them that is the only justice they got from the death of Ron...

[sunstar]

I never did read if the boys were with him that night. Did he leave the boys in the car or did he leave them at home. I haven't read or heard.
Back then the kids were really young.:confused:

If the boys were not with him I would ask him why he chose not to have them with him if he had no Idea they would find Kathleen dead. Hmmmm...

I've forgotten that part too, if we ever heard. :confused:

[kellabeck]

Anyone else besides me plan to record Geraldo tonight and tomorrow?? You know he's gonna cover Drew.

[sunstar]

Anyone else besides me plan to record Geraldo tonight and tomorrow?? You know he's gonna cover Drew.

I'm watching NASCAR now (just got started) so I'll probably record his show or tune in at 1am. :smile:

[aproudmom]

But the defense THs will say-- but he DIDN'T kill her, did he?? Just like their defense of Spector-- that the women he threatened should not be allowed to testify about his threatening them with guns, that those incidents weren't like Lana's because he didn't shoot them.

kell are you kiding me..:tonguewag:
no of course they will say he did not do it we could never get that lucky..and they will fight like heck to get them in to testify IL just passed a hearsay law so they should start allowing the history of violence..no doubt all his wife's will be on there..number 1 will be on his side so the defense will want her then the Pros can just go on down the roll well I guess 2 are dead..

[aproudmom]

But the defense THs will say-- but he DIDN'T kill her, did he?? Just like their defense of Spector-- that the women he threatened should not be allowed to testify about his threatening them with guns, that those incidents weren't like Lana's because he didn't shoot them.

omg had to say :ohmy:PS he scares me to just watch and I am happy with the victory for Lana C...I think they allowed only a few in IIRC and maybe he just never pulled the trigger until Lana it could have been a accident but he chose to say she did it to herself..maybe DP should have went to work and stopped by the house and just drowned SP in the dry tub..I think a pattern of violence should be allowed in ALL JMO though

[aproudmom]

did they release KS autopsy report anyone know?

[kellabeck]

omg had to say :ohmy:PS he scares me to just watch and I am happy with the victory for Lana C...I think they allowed only a few in IIRC and maybe he just never pulled the trigger until Lana it could have been a accident but he chose to say she did it to herself..maybe DP should have went to work and stopped by the house and just drowned SP in the dry tub..I think a pattern of violence should be allowed in ALL JMO though

They allowed four in to the first trial, those four because they were so much like Lana's situation:
Spector was drunk
the woman wished to leave his presence
out came the gun(s)

It could not have been an accident. The muzzle of the gun was inside her mouth. How could that be an accident??

The difference between the women who survived Spector's drunken gun rages and Lana was the surviving women KNEW him. Lana did not. They did or said whatever which defused the situation or allowed them to escape. My theory is that Lana said or did something which was a trigger, so to speak. And it cost her her life. Not blaming her, understand. It's not her fault that she trusted this "important" man.

[aproudmom]

last night I checked and could not find it but did today but maybe it is her second autopsy that is sealed..

[aproudmom]

They allowed four in to the first trial, those four because they were so much like Lana's situation:
Spector was drunk
the woman wished to leave his presence
out came the gun(s)

It could not have been an accident. The muzzle of the gun was inside her mouth. How could that be an accident??

The difference between the women who survived Spector's drunken gun rages and Lana was the surviving women KNEW him. Lana did not. They did or said whatever which defused the situation or allowed them to escape. My theory is that Lana said or did something which was a trigger, so to speak. And it cost her her life. Not blaming her, understand. It's not her fault that she trusted this "important" man.

I did not watch the 2nd trial had enough with the first so really did not keep up with it..so when I said accident I meant he ran out and said to the driver something can not even remember..I guess only him and her know the truth and she is dead..so I have no theorys..but you could be right..I still think prior history should be allowed in the court of law seems the victims have less rights than the criminals..JMO of course

[velvetbrown]

YES!!!
Has a SLAPP meeting been scheduled? I'll make the 'tini's...
So long, Drewpy...
(guess I'm goin' to Banned Camp now...'twas worth it!)

[sunstar]

I did not watch the 2nd trial had enough with the first so really did not keep up with it..so when I said accident I meant he ran out and said to the driver something can not even remember..I guess only him and her know the truth and she is dead..so I have no theorys..but you could be right..I still think prior history should be allowed in the court of law seems the victims have less rights than the criminals..JMO of course

I followed both trials and I think the prior bad acts played a big part in him finally getting convicted. I too am glad the state will be able to allow Kathleen's "statements from the grave" into this trial. I think it's a good law they just passed. MOO

[bkwits]

I can not even keep up with the Gov. of that state...lol they can actually ask for it is what I understood but nah LWOP don't waste any more money on him than they have to..if I see a dream team coming out I will scream

I misspoke. I should have said that there is a moratorium on executions in Illinois. Yes, a person can be sentenced to death in IL, but the sentence won't be carried out until the moratorium is lifted.

You can't keep up with the revolving Govs. of IL? I am not surprised. A few years ago, Gov. George Ryan was tried and convicted of corruption in office when he was Sec. of State of IL., then came Gov. Blago (big hair), he was indicted, then impeached and removed because he tried to sell Pres. Obama's Senate seat. His trial is yet to come. He is as big a media hog as DrewP. Lieut. Gov. Pat Quinn has now become gov of IL. Are you caught up yet?
:sneaky:

[aproudmom]

thanks bugout for all the wonderful links..appreciate it..a lot of info I had not seen

[aproudmom]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/3b36dbc2ce2d9ff1/b7191de7a0697698?lnk=raot

Third wife was 'terrified'
Savio feared husband, sister told inquest

The jury ruled the death was accidental. On Wednesday, Will County
Coroner Patrick O'Neil -- who conducted the inquest -- questioned the
ruling, saying the death at least should have been ruled
"undetermined."

O'Neil's statement prompted one juror Thursday to ask why the coroner
did not express misgivings at the time.

[aproudmom]

here are just a couple with blood on their hands..huge conflict of interest IMO
:thumbdown:
Illinois State Police Special Agent Herbert B. Hardy told jurors that the sergeant's "whereabouts were totally accounted for" at the time of Kathleen Savio's death

Glasgow reopened the Savio case, citing the unusual circumstances of
her death. The state's attorney at that time was Jeff Tomczak.


More information has surfaced on Drew Peterson. According to court
documents, Peterson was fired in 1985 after the Bolingbrook Fire and
Police Commission found him guilty of official misconduct,
disobedience, failure to report a bribe and self-assigned police
action. At the time, he was part of the Metropolitan Area Narcotics
Squad, working on a case against a reputed drug dealer.


In 1986, Peterson was reinstated shortly after a Will County judge
overruled the commission's decision, said Gerard Nowicki, who served
on the panel. When asked if the commission agreed with the court's
ruling, Nowicki flatly replied, "No." He declined to elaborate.

[aproudmom]

I find this very interesting I did not write it but sure made me think about what could have happened and as I am searching on google there are so many people saying that they are not sure she drowned she had no water in her lungs:confused:

just read Kathleen Savio’s autopsy report and as a registered nurse I don’t think this was an accidental drowning. The blood on Kathleen’s body had settled to her anterior which mean “front” of body so she supposedly drowned face down in the tub. Usually when people fall in the tub it is because their foot slips forward and they fall backward which is consistent with the bruise in the parietal/occipital area of her head (back behind her ear) which is on the autopsy report. I don’t think the one inch laceration on her head would have been enough to render her unconscious. There was no fracture of the skull and there wasn’t a hematoma (blood pooling or bruising) under the laceration. While the blow might not have knocked her unconscious it could have stunned her enough for him to have more easily drowned her. Now the question remains did he drown her? The autopsy doesn’t report fluid in her lungs just fluid in her ethmoid sinuses. Fluid in the ethmoid sinuse wouldn’t have been enough to drown her. The mucous cone in her nostrils would probably be fluid that drains after death since she was face down. Yes, scalp lacerations bleed horribly UNLESS the heart has stopped beating or is barely beating. If she was slowly dying there would have been very little blood in the scalp wound. The bruises on the abdomen sound like maybe he punched her in the stomach a few times because the stomach is usually pretty hard to bruise and the elbow lacerations??? down on the ground propped up on her elbows and fighting? Were the bruises on both of her shins caused from being pushed into the tub from behind. She may have had a little fight left in her when he was pushing her toward the tub and she would have bruised her shins if she wasn’t lifting her own feet. This whole thing stinks of murder to me and why a coroner’s jury would have ruled accidental sounds like they were covering for a public servant.

[Anakerie]

Geraldo is going to talk about Drew... :rolleyes:

[Anakerie]

Geraldo is going to talk about Drew... :rolleyes:
Quoting my own post... That was a waste of time.. lol, Geraldo said NOTHING worth listening to.

[sunstar]

Geraldo is going to talk about Drew... :rolleyes:

He's just now finally gotten around to talking about the case, mainly the autopsy report.

[sunstar]

I find this very interesting I did not write it but sure made me think about what could have happened and as I am searching on google there are so many people saying that they are not sure she drowned she had no water in her lungs:confused:

(snipped for space).

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on this! I couldn't understand how with these injuries her death could be ruled 'accidental'. I honestly believe someone made a huge mistake, if not a cover up, in the initial report. It's just really sad it took Stacy's disappearance to bring the truth to light. :sad: MOO

[sunstar]

Good evening Ms. Kathy*Rae...
Nothing but DP spread all across the television and newspapers today. Geraldo on fox is having something about him sometime before his hour is up, he says. We'll see.

Geraldo says he'll have more tomorrow. Like you said, we'll see!

[KittyMom]

I got my big stick and am ready to report! :patriot:

I'm going right now to dig my big stick out of the closet and put on my t-shirt. I've been waiting a long time for the guy to go down. :thumbsup:

[KittyMom]

The coroner director just said there was a fairly young officer there at the scene that checked off 3-4 lines and somehow DP convinced them it was a drowning and they thought he was such a nice guy there would be no way this could have been a suicide.:glare:
So, that's how they made their decision, eh?:ohmy:
JMO

I think they need to review their LE training. :scared:

[aproudmom]

I misspoke. I should have said that there is a moratorium on executions in Illinois. Yes, a person can be sentenced to death in IL, but the sentence won't be carried out until the moratorium is lifted.

You can't keep up with the revolving Govs. of IL? I am not surprised. A few years ago, Gov. George Ryan was tried and convicted of corruption in office when he was Sec. of State of IL., then came Gov. Blago (big hair), he was indicted, then impeached and removed because he tried to sell Pres. Obama's Senate seat. His trial is yet to come. He is as big a media hog as DrewP. Lieut. Gov. Pat Quinn has now become gov of IL. Are you caught up yet?
:sneaky:

LOL yeah agree on DP and Blago he is a real nut job...

[aproudmom]

Geraldo is going to talk about Drew... :rolleyes:

o man I think he re runs was watching the race...have to check thanks

[aproudmom]

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on this! I couldn't understand how with these injuries her death could be ruled 'accidental'. I honestly believe someone made a huge mistake, if not a cover up, in the initial report. It's just really sad it took Stacy's disappearance to bring the truth to light. :sad: MOO

yucky they are playing a older interview on LKL I wanna barf just listening to him talk..that was no accident no way no how..and I agree it is real sad it took SP going missing to even look into KS death..

[aproudmom]

The coroner director just said there was a fairly young officer there at the scene that checked off 3-4 lines and somehow DP convinced them it was a drowning and they thought he was such a nice guy there would be no way this could have been a homicide.:glare:
So, that's how they made their decision, eh?:ohmy:
JMO

and the officer knew DP and said he would never have hurt her and they did not have a place to put undetermined after the fact some of the coroners jurors ask why they did not have that choice when the coroner was not happy with the decision IIRC

[Lrobert1]

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/petersonindictment.pdf

Interesting wording in the indictment:

...with the intent to kill Kathleen Savio, caused Kathleen Savio to inhale fluid...

Once again it sounds like a drowning, yet no fluid on the lungs.

[MoonFlwr]

Whatever disgust and revulsion I felt toward DP has been greatly magnified by reading KS's letter to the state attorney that bugout posted in the links thread. You can't help but realize that SP helped in Drew's torment of her (Kathleen writes about it). NEITHER woman deserved to die. The police have a lot to answer for in these 2 deaths. Unless they kept refusing to prosecute (Drew's wives, I mean). I don't know the details and look forward to hearing the truth and seeing this monster locked away, smirk and all.

She asked for help ('before it is too late')! :sad:

[aproudmom]

OMG did not know they lived that close to each other..:ohmy:
http://www.acandyrose.com/Stacy_Peterson_File-377-PheasantChase.jpg

[aproudmom]

When Stacy first went missing Greta interviewed a man who was on the coroner's inquest for Kathleen's death. He said one man on the panel was a law enforcement officer and worked with Drew Peterson. So he told the others on the panel Drew couldn't have murdered his wife. So the guy said even though it didn't seem right at first, the LE officer convinced them to vote it accidental. Talk about conflict of interest! How could a cop even be sitting on that panel in the first place. It was all way wrong. And I can't believe the others went along with it mindlessly based on one cop's word. An outrage. Her poor poor family. It was a gross miscarriage of justice from the start.

The biggest surprise is that there's not more dead wives in his wake.

I posted his name earlier not sure if I added it in the links or not..

[aproudmom]

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/petersonindictment.pdf

Interesting wording in the indictment:



Once again it sounds like a drowning, yet no fluid on the lungs.

yeah how odd is that..I do not get it..:confused:

[aproudmom]

I think it was bugout who posted this on the links it has alot of info on it
http://www.acandyrose.com/kathleen_savio_documents.htm
Kathleen "Kitty" Savio Peterson Documents
And Related Timeline Entries

[aproudmom]

guess he wanted to make sure one of them were dead and it was KS

03/02/1997 Last Will and Testiment - Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson

"This day March 2nd 1997 Drew Walter Peterson and Kathleen Savio Peterson, both being of sound body and mind, do hereby bequeath all of our worldly possessions to each other in the event of either of our individual deaths.
In the unlikely event we should die on or about the same time we do hereby bequeath all of our wordly possessions, to be divided equally among, our four surviving children, Eric Drew Peterson, Stephen Paul Peterson, Thomas Drew Peterson, Kristopher Donald Peterson. Property included but not limited to the following:

1) Golden Rule life insurance policy $100,000.00
2) Monumental Life Insurance policy $125,000.00
3) Prudential Life Insurance policy $308,137.59
Beneficiary Merchants Bank Oswego to pay off note for Sud's Pub in Montgomery," Remaining funds to be divided.
4) Bolingbrook Police Pension fund in excess of $50,000.
5) Real Estate - 1040 Walden Ct in Bolingbrook, Ill, including ALL Contents. 1993 Ford Van - 1992 Nissan Pathfinder.
6) Real Estate - 9 Clay Ct, in Montgomery, Ill.
7) The Blue Lightning Corp. (Suds Pub in Montgomery 1250 S. Broadway in Montgomery) 100%
8) Da Page Corp. - ( Fast 'N' Accurate Graphics - 87 Eisenhower South, Lombard) 100%
9) CMYK Corp. Lombard-Naperville (Printing) 25%

[aproudmom]

Greta's "On The Record" Guest: Ric Mims
RIC MIMS: I have a blog and I'm putting up my story of my friendship with DP and the timeline after SP went missing. It can be found at www.richardmims.com We've had about 6,000 hits per day. I have a site administrator that helps me, but the writing and responding is mine. - GRETA: DId DP have any known access to her [Kathleen Savio] house at the time when she died? - RIC MIMS: I know that I watched her at work to be sure she did not leave while he went to her house to retrieve a few things. Don't know if was to retrieve something inside or outside. That would have been in late December 2003 or very early January 2004. He does know how to use a locksmith kit. Years ago we had that conversation. He has a little black case full of little picks--they look like dental tools. He showed me it when he was showing me his gun collection. He told me he was trained to use it. I've been before the GJ three times and I'm going back one more time that I know about. I've talked to SA about many things, such as whether DP did any parking ticket fixing and if the blue Dodge truck would fit into a garage with the camper top on it.

http://www.acandyrose.com/kathleen_savio_documents.htm

Well well I have read more tonight than I have in the past year or so..this women had no chance..how sad this jerk was walking the streets to kill another wife who helped stalk the other one..what a charmer he is

[aproudmom]

Drew Peterson needs to be put on death row and I sincerely hope a jury will take more time and consideration with evidence than the coroner's inquest panel did. He's just wicked. ETA: His poor little kids having to live with the legacy he's conjured. How dare him.

and I thought Monster-Mom CA was the worse I'm thinking they are pretty much equal in my eyes..I feel for his children and he does not care about them he sure in the heck wont be celebrating Mothers Day since he told LKL a year ago he was not working just staying home and being a mommy:thumbdown:

[aproudmom]

Thank you. Are you talking about the LE inquest panel member, or the panel member who was interviewed on Greta's. It sounded so sad the way he told it. I guess he was the only one with guts enough to come forward and tell what happened. Very very sad.

It looks to me like if they had too many cases, were tired, etc. they should have come back another day and settled it properly. They say it's obvious she did not die accidentally. I do wholely believe the panel member who came forward on Greta's, told what happened for their vote to fall to an accidental death. It makes my blood run cold to think of that happening. With the doubt he said was in some panel member's minds they shouldn't have ever agreed to vote accidental. To let a man get away with murder and then marry another young girl who fell to be his victim after that. It's unthinkable.

sorry did not see this I think it was the officer friend not the one that talked to GVS..I would have to go back and look but I know I posted his name and the DA at that times name earlier and said they had blood on their hands..JMO of course

[aproudmom]

When Stacy first went missing Greta interviewed a man who was on the coroner's inquest for Kathleen's death. He said one man on the panel was a law enforcement officer and worked with Drew Peterson. So he told the others on the panel Drew couldn't have murdered his wife. So the guy said even though it didn't seem right at first, the LE officer convinced them to vote it accidental. Talk about conflict of interest! How could a cop even be sitting on that panel in the first place. It was all way wrong. And I can't believe the others went along with it mindlessly based on one cop's word. An outrage. Her poor poor family. It was a gross miscarriage of justice from the start.

The biggest surprise is that there's not more dead wives in his wake.


This is the one I was talking about I think is Mims the one you are thinking of..I am just now reading a interview of his..about watching KS for DP so doubt that would be him either..I know I posted the one your thinking of on the links his name may have been Jones heck I can not remember..lol..but he really felt it was no accident.

Illinois State Police Special Agent Herbert B. Hardy told jurors that the sergeant's "whereabouts were totally accounted for" at the time of Kathleen Savio's death

Glasgow reopened the Savio case, citing the unusual circumstances of
her death. The state's attorney at that time was Jeff Tomczak.

[aproudmom]

here is the juror that I could not remember his name who spoke to GVS


WALTER LEE JAMES, JUROR AT SAVIO CORONER'S INQUEST: "at the time, we were given three options to either come to a decision as to whether it was natural, homicide or accidental. We did not have at the time the option of determining "undetermined" status." - "there was a police officer on the panel, and he indicated at the time he knew or knew of Peterson. And he indicated to the panel that he thought that Peterson was a good policeman. He was charitable and helped his neighbors, and so on and so forth. So I think that — I think that might have influenced some of the panel members, but I don't know that for sure." - "I was kind of apprehensive with one photograph showing her face down in an empty tub. And there was a lot of blood remaining in the tub, and I just — I didn't — myself did not consider — it was inconsistent with drowning. I feel that the blood that was in the tub should have probably dissipated into the water and drained out with the water. But like I said, I'm not an expert forensic person, so as a layperson, that's just how I felt."

http://www.acandyrose.com/kathleen_savio_documents.htm
One panel member was a policeman who either knew Peterson personally or knew of him

[kellabeck]

Geraldo is going to talk about Drew... :rolleyes:

If you learn anything new, would you please post it? Because my DVR is limited to recording only two things at a time, I chose to record the 1am Geraldo repeat only this morning I discover that I recorded Fox Reports! I hate when they do the ole switcheroo.

[aproudmom]

I have googled and read several medical sites. I may be wrong but after pulling these up I think it was drowning it does not say she did not have any water in her lungs from reading the autopsy I understand what Water in the ethmoid sinuses means and it can be caused by drowning also found more about . Cerebral tonsillar notching. by reading the report I am so outraged she had bruises all over her front how could any ME miss that... she fought to get away and not so sure her nails were not cut since her family said she never had short nails and hers were short when found IMO.:sneaky:


1st autopsy report findings

Central Nervous System: No other lacerations are seen on the scalp. The skull is intact. No subdural or epidural hemorrhage is seen. The leptomeninges are clear. The subarachnoid space is unremarkable. The brain weighs 1,160 g. There is flattening of the gyri with notching of the cerebellar tonsils. Serial coronal sections of the brain reveal no other pathologic abnormalities. The ventricles are of normal size. The cerebrospinal fluid is clear. The cerebellum is of normal development. The arteries at the base of the brain are patent

Water in the ethmoid sinuses
Because inhaled and aspirated fluid enters the paranasal sinuses as it passes through the nasal cavity, the finding of sphenoidal and ethmoidal sinus fluid is supportive of the diagnosis of drowning. Although many consider the findings of pleural effusion, watery fluid in the stomach, and dilated engorged right-sided cardiac chambers and great vessels as nonspecific, they are helpful supportive findings when other anatomic findings of drowning are present.

Consequences of cerebellar tonsil notching
Displacement of the cerebellar tonsils through the foramen magnum compresses the medullary respiratory centers, leading to death

[aproudmom]

If you learn anything new, would you please post it? Because my DVR is limited to recording only two things at a time, I chose to record the 1am Geraldo repeat only this morning I discover that I recorded Fox Reports! I hate when they do the ole switcheroo.

I had it on but never saw anything maybe I had the wrong time programed..all I saw was fox reports

[Myka]

and I thought Monster-Mom CA was the worse I'm thinking they are pretty much equal in my eyes..I feel for his children and he does not care about them he sure in the heck wont be celebrating Mothers Day since he told LKL a year ago he was not working just staying home and being a mommy:thumbdown:

that's funny, DH said he could see Ca and DP hooking up. Her being with Drew for his money, Drew being with her because she is a young thang. And with Drew being an ex cop and GA being an ex cop.....I would love to be a fly on the wall for Sunday Chili Fest

I too feel bad for the Peterson children

With 6 Perterson off spring out there, it seems he was busy planting his seed, then planning ways to kill his children's mothers. Not only is he a scumb bag for what he has done to these 2 women, he really has no reguard for his own children. Those children are hurting because their mothers are gone.

I don't know about anyone else, but when my child is hurting, it just breaks my heart.

[Lrobert1]

yeah how odd is that..I do not get it..:confused:


We had indepth conversations about this supposed drowning on here and on the stacypeterson.com forum.

I now remember somebody said that Kathleen may have already been dead before being submerged in water by Drew to make it look like a drowning. If she was, then the water wouldn't have made it to the lungs.

[MoonFlwr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Peterson#Marriages




[edit] Victoria ConnollyPeterson married his second wife, Victoria (Rutkiewicz) Connolly, in 1982. [6] Connolly has alleged a history of abuse during her 10-year marriage to Peterson,[6] as has her daughter who lived in the household during this time, from the age of 8 to 17 years. In 2007, Connolly stated that Peterson "was a legend in his own mind". [7] The couple divorced after Peterson started dating Kathleen Savio, who would later become his third wife. [8] Their divorce was finalized on February 18, 1992, and Peterson married Savio two months later.[4]

I do believe infidelity and abuse was the common theme in his marriages. Victoria was wife#2

LMS

What a human parasite he is! :cursing:

(Thanks for the link!)

[Poochie Pie]

A member of the inquest panel was on Greta's when Stacy was first missing. He said the one LE person on the panel more or less swayed them. They were tired, worn out, lot of cases and couldn't decide so LE bud of Drew pushed them over to voting accidental.

Nice, since it caused Stacy's death also. That is my belief. They all sounded lazy to me. A grave miscarriage of justice and great lazity on all the panel's parts. To base their judgement on nothing more than a LE pal of Drew is an outrage. They're supposed to review the info and come to their own conclusions and the interviewee said there were misgivings about her death by some of the panel members. Shame on them for not doing their jobs properly. Shame on them indeed, Adalena..!! Disgusting to think that had Drew been investigated and charged back then.. Stacy might be alive today..

Poochie

[barskin&co.]

Drew Peterson's story is reminiscent of the story of Bradley Cunningham, another serial wife abuser turned murderer. You might have read Ann Rule's book about it (or seen the TV movie), "Dead By Sunset."

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Dead-by-Sunset/Ann-Rule/e/9780671001131

[vonna]

Shame on them indeed, Adalena..!! Disgusting to think that had Drew been investigated and charged back then.. Stacy might be alive today..

Poochie

Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers! And what an added delight knowing DP is in jail.

[trich]

I figured DP would be put in solitary ....too bad they don't let the general prison population take care of him.
It really makes me mad the system has to protect him.
I know that sounds bad on my part but I get so fed up with these men
that abuse women no less kill them.
His "finance" should be counting her lucky stars that she has not married him.
With his past history I do not understand anyone getting involved
with him .

He is also an arrogant jerk!
Why are some woman so naive?:angry:

[Pretty Leaf]

So Drew loves his BLING and having 3 sqaures a day.

What a loser. Hope Bubba mets him in the shower someday and shows him the same service he showed Kathleen.

[sunstar]

When Stacy first went missing Greta interviewed a man who was on the coroner's inquest for Kathleen's death. He said one man on the panel was a law enforcement officer and worked with Drew Peterson. So he told the others on the panel Drew couldn't have murdered his wife. So the guy said even though it didn't seem right at first, the LE officer convinced them to vote it accidental. Talk about conflict of interest! How could a cop even be sitting on that panel in the first place. It was all way wrong. And I can't believe the others went along with it mindlessly based on one cop's word. An outrage. Her poor poor family. It was a gross miscarriage of justice from the start.

The biggest surprise is that there's not more dead wives in his wake.

I didn't realize that until just this week when Greta replayed that interview and brought it back to light again. I just don't understand it either but IL seems to not be lacking for corruption ~ from politics to a coroners inquest. MOO

[sunstar]

MSNBC just reported that Drew Peterson is in solitary confinement in the medical unit where they take people who are suicidal. BUT....he's NOT suicidal they just want to make sure he is in deep solitary confinement since he's an ex-cop and they want to make sure he will be completely away from the general population.

Looks like it's the beginning of no end, hopefully!:thumbup:

Thanks for the update! :smile: He probably feels important.

[LadyBlue]

:thumbsup: His arrest is the best news this week! YAY !!!!:thumbsup:

[emdragon]

Can we let the system do it's job before we send him in to his death? He is in solitary because he hasn't been convicted of anything YET.

The man is pond scum but I have HUGH issues with drafting a law like this strictly to allow him to be prosecuted and the amount of his bail is far beyond the constitutions "reasonable bail" (i had read 20 million is that correct?)

How does he get a fair trial? people here are already wishing the jail would let the prisoners take him out. How do you find 12 people who can honestly be objective? Same problem that occurred with the other Peterson- (who I believe was guilty but just don't think his trial was fair)

I think the defense can poke holes in any new theory of Kathleen's death simply because it was colored by Stacy's disappearance.

I hope they really have their ducks in a row and didn't just jump the gun to prevent him from doing the reality show.

[bkwits]

It's been my impression there's been pretty much a nationwide death penalty moratorium for some years now. When Tookie Williams was executed he squaked the needle hurt so they called it cruel and unusual. Forget all the people he murdered callously. Anyway, there's some supreme court rulings. I haven't read them all.


http://www.abanet.org/moratorium/

Death Penalty Moratorium Implementation Project


Not really a nationwide moratorium. The US has had about 2 dozen inmates executed this year so far. We had more than 130 executions in 2008.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions-united-states

[Mayasmimi]

I figured DP would be put in solitary ....too bad they don't let the general prison population take care of him.
It really makes me mad the system has to protect him.
I know that sounds bad on my part but I get so fed up with these men
that abuse women no less kill them.
His "finance" should be counting her lucky stars that she has not married him.
With his past history I do not understand anyone getting involved
with him .

He is also an arrogant jerk!
Why are some woman so naive?:angry:


Yup. And too many Peterson men murder their wives. Michael, Scott and Andrew. I know it's a common name, but yikes....

[Mayasmimi]

Can we let the system do it's job before we send him in to his death? He is in solitary because he hasn't been convicted of anything YET.

The man is pond scum but I have HUGH issues with drafting a law like this strictly to allow him to be prosecuted and the amount of his bail is far beyond the constitutions "reasonable bail" (i had read 20 million is that correct?)

How does he get a fair trial? people here are already wishing the jail would let the prisoners take him out. How do you find 12 people who can honestly be objective? Same problem that occurred with the other Peterson- (who I believe was guilty but just don't think his trial was fair)

I think the defense can poke holes in any new theory of Kathleen's death simply because it was colored by Stacy's disappearance.

I hope they really have their ducks in a row and didn't just jump the gun to prevent him from doing the reality show.

I have not a real clue, but would assume that he is not in or out of solitary confinement. He hasn't been indicted, so I would guess that he would not be a part of the general county jail population. Maybe in some kind of holding area, where those not yet indicted are kept. I think Drew was a dirty cop, but still wonder how popular he'll be in jail. OJ seems to be doing just fine. Guess his new neighbors will decide. Luckily they won't be vulnerable ladies in their early 20s. I am so happy he is in custody. So very sad for the Savio and Cales children, and the families he has destroyed.

[aproudmom]

that's funny, DH said he could see Ca and DP hooking up. Her being with Drew for his money, Drew being with her because she is a young thang. And with Drew being an ex cop and GA being an ex cop.....I would love to be a fly on the wall for Sunday Chili Fest

I too feel bad for the Peterson children

With 6 Perterson off spring out there, it seems he was busy planting his seed, then planning ways to kill his children's mothers. Not only is he a scumb bag for what he has done to these 2 women, he really has no reguard for his own children. Those children are hurting because their mothers are gone.

I don't know about anyone else, but when my child is hurting, it just breaks my heart.

I know I can not help but think about them just seeing them bring those little ones out with the blankets hiding them from the media I mean my gosh look what he has done to his children and those little ones do not understand why mommy is on vacation heck are they being told daddy is on vacation now..sure hope he took his little swim suit..bet the big boys would love to get ahold of him..he is going to always be separated he worked under cover IIRC and sure them drug dealing gang members in prison will love to have him as their new boy toy...sorry had to say it..shame on me....NOT:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Can we let the system do it's job before we send him in to his death? He is in solitary because he hasn't been convicted of anything YET.

The man is pond scum but I have HUGH issues with drafting a law like this strictly to allow him to be prosecuted and the amount of his bail is far beyond the constitutions "reasonable bail" (i had read 20 million is that correct?)

How does he get a fair trial? people here are already wishing the jail would let the prisoners take him out. How do you find 12 people who can honestly be objective? Same problem that occurred with the other Peterson- (who I believe was guilty but just don't think his trial was fair)

I think the defense can poke holes in any new theory of Kathleen's death simply because it was colored by Stacy's disappearance.

I hope they really have their ducks in a row and didn't just jump the gun to prevent him from doing the reality show.

I think he should have thought about that before he killed 2 of his wife's and left these children with out a mother or a father..and his bond will be lowered just hope he cant come up with what ever it is..

he is not in solitary for that reason they said in the press conf him being a ex cop is the reason..for his safety

[aproudmom]

I have not a real clue, but would assume that he is not in or out of solitary confinement. He hasn't been indicted, so I would guess that he would not be a part of the general county jail population. Maybe in some kind of holding area, where those not yet indicted are kept. I think Drew was a dirty cop, but still wonder how popular he'll be in jail. OJ seems to be doing just fine. Guess his new neighbors will decide. Luckily they won't be vulnerable ladies in their early 20s. I am so happy he is in custody. So very sad for the Savio and Cales children, and the families he has destroyed.

he is in solitary because he is a ex-cop he will more than likely always have to be for that reason alone they would love to get their hands on a ex cop they said just why they did that in the press conf the day he was arrested..not because he has not been indited yet or because he is not guilty or guilty..they are protecting his safety..and I agree thank for Lord he wont be able to find another young girl to more than likely end up dead if she wanted to leave him or he was afraid to lose a few buck..all jmo

[aproudmom]

Yup. And too many Peterson men murder their wives. Michael, Scott and Andrew. I know it's a common name, but yikes....

:scared: that is so scary..

[aproudmom]

Thanks for the update! :smile: He probably feels important.

well hope he gets used to his bling bling and 3 meals a day and 90 minutes he gets to play all by himself..cause more than likely he will be doing it until the day he dies..:thumbup:

[kellabeck]

I have not a real clue, but would assume that he is not in or out of solitary confinement. He hasn't been indicted, so I would guess that he would not be a part of the general county jail population. Maybe in some kind of holding area, where those not yet indicted are kept. I think Drew was a dirty cop, but still wonder how popular he'll be in jail. OJ seems to be doing just fine. Guess his new neighbors will decide. Luckily they won't be vulnerable ladies in their early 20s. I am so happy he is in custody. So very sad for the Savio and Cales children, and the families he has destroyed.

I believe he HAS been indicted. Did you mean arraigned? He hasn't been arraigned yet thanks to his absent attornies.

As to the comment upthread about not liking laws passed for one individual--- I have to take issue. Before human beings invented various bad behaviors, there were no laws against them-- for example, stalking. Anti-stalking laws were enacted after the stalking death of Rebecca Shaefer and the attack on Teresa Saldano by her stalker. By the lights of this poster, would these laws be unfair?

I am totally against convicting someone of murder solely on the strength of a letter from the grave. HOWEVER, I am also totally against someone's benefitting from killing someone who had been terrorized and trying to get help before the murder. That isn't fair at all.

When the letter from the grave is one piece of a whole mosaic of evidence which comes into trial, then that is fair and right.

I hope that Julie Jensen's letter from the grave is upheld as legit evidence. And I hope that Kathleen Savio's is too.