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DeeN
05-05-2009, 02:48 PM
What a world we live in :(

<SNIP>(May 5) -- Authorities in Florida arrested a man suspected of assaulting and kidnapping an infant, and then discarding the child's body along an interstate Tuesday.
Sheriff's deputies were called to the home of a 17-year-old girl early Tuesday in Tampa, Fla. Jasmine Marie Bedwell told authorities that her ex-boyfriend showed up before dawn and attacked her and her infant son, throwing the boy onto concrete and then running off with him, according to the St. Petersburg Times.

LINK: http://news.aol.com/article/baby-thrown-from-car/463968

n/t
05-05-2009, 02:52 PM
OMG! That poor baby! :crying:

Dogmatic
05-05-2009, 03:25 PM
It appears there are no boundaries for criminals any more.

Even defenseless infants are fair game.

God bless that little child.

LILMANMAX
05-05-2009, 03:26 PM
For goodness sakes
What could possess someone to do something so horrendous?

May this poor child RIP :rose:

canUCme?
05-05-2009, 03:33 PM
OMG....this makes me sick.
Poor little baby boy....
This is where I believe "an eye for an eye" is the proper punishment.
:angry:
"C"

KittyMom
05-05-2009, 03:47 PM
How could anyone hurt a baby? I just don't understand. :crying:

KittyMom
05-05-2009, 03:51 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-baby-thrown-from-car-050509,0,3217090.story

Jason Bird, a news photographer for WTVT-TV in Tampa, spotted the baby's body on his way to work at about 4:30 a.m.


The poor guy will never get over this.

KittyMom
05-05-2009, 03:53 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/dpgo_tampa_baby_kidnapping_fc_050509_2463002

As officers led McTear to a holding area at the sheriff's office on Falkenburg Road a reported asked, "How can you throw a baby out the window?

"It's a dirty game," McTear replied.


:flamemad: a game????? He thinks this is a game???? arghhhhhh

Nellie
05-05-2009, 04:26 PM
What's in the water in Florida? :cursing:

LILMANMAX
05-05-2009, 04:44 PM
What's in the water in Florida? :cursing:

I don't mean to single out Florida but I am wondering myself what is going on there.
I'm sure this goes on everywhere but geezzz :unsure:

frances1
05-05-2009, 04:51 PM
I don't mean to single out Florida but I am wondering myself what is going on there.
I'm sure this goes on everywhere but geezzz :unsure:

I was just getting ready to post the same thing!!!!

phylcore
05-05-2009, 05:08 PM
This is just terrible,why hurt a innocent baby?I hope he gets the max's.

Tokyo Rose
05-05-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm wondering what's going on here too and I live in Florida.

RIP little one.:wub:

i4doors
05-05-2009, 06:05 PM
prayers for the little one.....:rose: i don't even want to think about what this poor baby went through...:crying:

BobbysGirl
05-05-2009, 06:58 PM
What is in the minds of these people. This is all I hear on news.

O/T I also heard a brief on news in Ilinois about a mother and her 2 children found murdered. Could not find link.

Sorry. I get so to the point I cannot listen to the news anymore. So much violence. Especially towards children. Murder/Suicide is almost daily somewhere. Whole families wiped out. Makes me very sick and uneasy on what is going on in our country/world. :(

My heart goes out to all.
:rose:
BG

Dogmatic
05-05-2009, 07:12 PM
He was going to make sure he hurt the mother of that child as much as he possibly could.

And a three month old child was the tool he used.

What an ignorant fool

joolz
05-05-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm not usually a huge fan of the death penalty, but in this case, there is no reason to let this disgusting freak use up any more precious oxygen. jmo:thumbdown:

interested
05-05-2009, 07:31 PM
He's 21 and not the father of the child.

Little Emanuel was 4 months old.

Jasmine is now 17, which means she was 16 when she was carrying Emanuel.

How old was she when this waste of skin felon was her boyfriend?

This mom was McTear's victim long before little Emanuel was even a twinkle in his mothers eye.

If we actually enforced the laws back when an adult man was victimizing a female child, Emanuel wouldn't have been his victim today.

RIP ~ Emanuel ~ :rose:

Healing prayers for Jasmine ~ :rose:

Lianasmom
05-05-2009, 08:25 PM
I hesitated to open this thread, didn't want to have nightmares. This is absolutely sickening. What's wrong with people? This guy is history, a waste of humanity that just needs to go away. I pray that the baby didn't suffer, but died instantly.

LILMANMAX
05-06-2009, 07:56 PM
I was watching HLN and Mike went over some of this guy's record. Its quite extensive and could easily fill the entire show. One bad dude.
Horrible crime. Sickens me to the core. What a precious loss of life. :sad:

Tia
05-07-2009, 01:27 PM
This is awful. This poor baby!! My husband said he heard this yesterday and it made him physically ill.

islandgirl36542
05-07-2009, 02:14 PM
Why would a mother choose to be with a such a bad character?
To have her child around such a...omg!...look at his pic! imo He looks like a no good pos crackhead!!! guess i'm over protective because I would Never trust someone like that around my son ~heck! I dont even trust someone thats an outstanding citizen & a church goer around my son ~BUT if i saw someone like this character walking down the sidewalk coming toward me I'd cross the street to avoid him.

RIP.....Emanuel....:rose:

aproudmom
05-07-2009, 03:22 PM
Sounds like this child did not have a chance:cursing:
God bless that little child.

darcie
05-07-2009, 04:14 PM
And some people actually say they don't believe in the devil. I do believe this guy is just that.

May Emmanuel rest in peace in God's arms, and may his mother somehow make it through this ordeal, and take a second look at her life, and where it is headed.
It's obvious associating with people like this, doesn't make an ideal situation.

MOO

Dogmatic
05-07-2009, 06:28 PM
And some people actually say they don't believe in the devil. I do believe this guy is just that.

May Emmanuel rest in peace in God's arms, and may his mother somehow make it through this ordeal, and take a second look at her life, and where it is headed.
It's obvious associating with people like this, doesn't make an ideal situation.

MOO


I hope she does also. Her son paid a huge price

msgatorslayer
05-07-2009, 10:53 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/dpgo_tampa_baby_kidnapping_fc_050509_2463002



:flamemad: a game????? He thinks this is a game???? arghhhhhh

"Dirty Game" is a gang. I'll say IMO because I don't have a link.

A woman named Michelle Williams, who is apparently a highly respected woman in the black community called in to a radio station this morning. She is not a public servant but wants better for her community. She said that "Dirty Game' is a gang there in Tampa.

She also said that one of this guys arrests was for something he did to his own mother. I can't remember what that was now.

msgatorslayer
05-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Found a link...

'Hillsborough County Sheriff's investigators say Dirty Game is the name of a local hybrid gang made up of young people who grew up together in East Tampa'

Its unclear how McTear is associated with the group, but court records show McTear has the gang's name tattooed on his forearm.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=105384&catid=8

He'll never see freedom again. If ever a DP case, this is it!! Scum bag, loser, killing a harmless baby cause he was mad at his GF he couldn't control. :cursing:

HANNAH ROSE
05-08-2009, 01:18 PM
People like this should be released immediately and not serve a day in jail. Why? Because I swear that there are times when vigilante justice is deserved. Maybe that makes me un-Christian but I can't see God not forgiving me in this situation.

I have a 4 month old son and when I read things like this I just look at him and cannot fathom how anyone could harm something so absolutely defenseless. I was almost physically ill over this story.

I don't know why Florida keeps making the news with this stuff. It's certainly not relegated to just our state..

I can only hope that jail justice will prevail and his fellow inmates will handle him in their own special way. Baby killers are not tolerated even by the most hardened of criminals.

Dogmatic
05-11-2009, 04:33 PM
Gang activity scares me.

Partially, because it thrives on violence and crime.

But secondly because it reaches out to kids who are 10 and 11 years old. By the time these kids have been involved in gangs for 2-3 years, they become so hardened that they know no boundaries at all.

It's frightening

islandgirl36542
05-12-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm sorry... but this is unfair. To say he's a bad guy based just on the way he looks. We know now he is a bad guy.... but Ted Bundy didn't look like a monster. I know a lot of guys that people would say are questionable because they are bikers and look like bikers... and yet are GREAT with their kids and are dedicated to their children. They're at their games, school events and everything. Looks are not what makes the person.

you are absolutely right~there has got to be something about him besides his looks that Jasmine saw to trust him around her baby~perhaps he treated her with respect, helped around the house, bathe & changed little Emanuel's diapers~it was just a quick opinion I had after reading what he did then seeing his picture & arrest where he was smiling & laughing~saying its all a Game! Maybe he turned all of a sudden into this monster.

RIP...Baby Emanuel...Justice Will Prevail

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Emanuel_Murray.jpg

Amy
05-12-2009, 06:09 PM
you are absolutely right~there has got to be something about him besides his looks that Jasmine saw to trust him around her baby~perhaps he treated her with respect, helped around the house, bathe & changed little Emanuel's diapers~it was just a quick opinion I had after reading what he did then seeing his picture & arrest where he was smiling & laughing~saying its all a Game! Maybe he turned all of a sudden into this monster.

RIP...Baby Emanuel...Justice Will Prevail

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Emanuel_Murray.jpg

From what I read, this wasn't the case, as he was a former boyfriend, and Emanuel is not his baby, it seems he has not been "in the picture" as part of her daily life for some time. He has been jealous that Jasmine could move on after their relationship ended. And, he had threatened the baby before. I watched I think Mike Galanos? on HLN the other day and it seemed she had asked for a protection order against him--but did not attend the hearing for it to go thru. I think the hearing was a day or so before he murdered Emanuel.

There was discussion about this fellow's VERY LONG record. Judge Alex was on, and they were talking about how these fellows could still be out and about. McTear was on probation, where the PO checks on him @ specified intervals. Judge Alex says people think they are CLOSELY watched on probation, and that is not how it is set up---for closer supervision, he would have to have been on house arrest w/the GPS devise. The PO couldn't find him, and LE had been looking for him.

Judge Alex says that one of the reasons some of these fellows aren't in jail or @ least house arrest is that the victim often will not cooperate when it comes time for trial. Whether it is because the victim still loves the perp, or is afraid of the perp. It pretty much ties the hands of the courts to get these creeps off the street for good, because w/out the victim, their case goes down the hopper.

Dogmatic
05-13-2009, 04:28 PM
So he's a gang member.

No surprise there.

Gangs are home grown terrorists. If we want to fight the war on terrorism, we need to start in our gang ridden neighborhoods.

msgatorslayer
06-30-2009, 10:59 PM
Mother of baby thrown from car on I-275 plans to sue DCF, Hillsborough Sheriff's Office

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1014612.ece

marshmallow
07-02-2009, 11:07 AM
what's sadder still is the fact that she'll win. They state will settle and she'll get paid.

msgatorslayer
07-08-2009, 09:56 AM
what's sadder still is the fact that she'll win. They state will settle and she'll get paid.

Definately!! Few weeks ago, a Florida jury awarded the family of a murdered man a million dollars in their lawsuit against McDonalds for not having security on the premises. Their loved one started the fight and lost, with his life. But it was up to McDonalds to protect him.:rolleyes:

Baby Momma in this case added the apartment complex where she lived to the lawsuit. They too, should have had security to protect her from her boyfriend. :rolleyes:

Might I add, she was arrested for resisting arrest on the same day she amended her lawsuit. Seems she ran away [back in foster care after her baby died} and her foster parents reported her missing. When LE found her, she resisted, so they arrested her azz.

lunchlady
07-13-2009, 08:32 PM
Ugh. He probably went over to her place looking for you-know-what, and got so mad when she wasn't interested that he took it out on the baby. Hope he enjoys the dirty game in prison.

I don't think she can sue the apartment building. Was she living in an apartment with a doorman or with an intercom to her apartment, either of which systems malfunctioned? I doubt it.

withay
07-14-2009, 04:13 AM
Mother of baby thrown from car on I-275 plans to sue DCF, Hillsborough Sheriff's Office

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1014612.ece

Let me see if I understand this correctly... the mother continued to see and even hid that she was still seeing the POS (Piece of scum) and now she is suing DCF because he killed her baby? They may have had
some responsibility but she did not seem to be trying to get him out of her life. They had even threatened to take the baby if she continued seeing POS, she had a court hearing for an order of protection and she did not even show up! Now she wants to blame someone else and get then to pay her? :w00t:

msgatorslayer
07-14-2009, 10:54 AM
Let me see if I understand this correctly... the mother continued to see and even hid that she was still seeing the POS (Piece of scum) and now she is suing DCF because he killed her baby? They may have had
some responsibility but she did not seem to be trying to get him out of her life. They had even threatened to take the baby if she continued seeing POS, she had a court hearing for an order of protection and she did not even show up! Now she wants to blame someone else and get then to pay her? :w00t:

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Amy
07-14-2009, 01:21 PM
Oh my goodness - I hope there is an appeal in process in FL. The family should be charged for bringing a stupid, frivolous lawsuit. And logic defies any suit by this baby-mamma and any attorney that will take the case! Obviously she has and would continue to fight (literally) any efforts to keep her away from her boyfriend.

First, I think attorneys who petition frivolous law suits should be disbarred. And any judge who allows it on his/her docket should be debenched or defrocked or whatever. We did have a law in KS about frivolous law suits, and I do remember a local attorney was fined or scolded or something--but just that one. We probably still have the law, just no one enforces it.

What gets me is, in most cases, it is a JURY who makes the decision. Like the one against McD's for the coffee in the lap episode. IIRC, jurors were quoted as saying, well, there were going to be a lot of medical bills, and McD's has the resources to pay them, while the woman didn't. NOT that McD's was @ fault for the lady to put the damn cup of coffee between her legs, but that they had the money for the medical bills. And, for that, we had to suffer thru lukewarm coffee and those doggone "the coffee is hot" signs in all eateries. Plus, the cost of a hamburger @ McD's went up to fund the lady's medical bills.

It was jurors who awarded the lady who fell on liquid on the bar floor, that she had just thrown @ her bf and the staff had no idea was on the floor. And for the injury a lady had in a store because of an out of control kid breaking something on the floor--and the out of control kid was HERS. It just goes on and on and on. What ARE these people thinking on those juries?

So, I have faith that some attorney is going to take up the "cause" for this "poor helpless" girl. And, I have faith that some jury will think that those being sued have enough money that they could surely pay this girl for all the grief she has gone thru. Wonder if she is aware how much of her spoils the lawyer will be taking for his cut? She probably figures that any "winnings" they get will be hers-all hers. She has another rude awakening coming, that's for sure.

msgatorslayer
07-14-2009, 02:35 PM
First, I think attorneys who petition frivolous law suits should be disbarred. And any judge who allows it on his/her docket should be debenched or defrocked or whatever. We did have a law in KS about frivolous law suits, and I do remember a local attorney was fined or scolded or something--but just that one. We probably still have the law, just no one enforces it.

What gets me is, in most cases, it is a JURY who makes the decision. Like the one against McD's for the coffee in the lap episode. IIRC, jurors were quoted as saying, well, there were going to be a lot of medical bills, and McD's has the resources to pay them, while the woman didn't. NOT that McD's was @ fault for the lady to put the damn cup of coffee between her legs, but that they had the money for the medical bills. And, for that, we had to suffer thru lukewarm coffee and those doggone "the coffee is hot" signs in all eateries. Plus, the cost of a hamburger @ McD's went up to fund the lady's medical bills.

It was jurors who awarded the lady who fell on liquid on the bar floor, that she had just thrown @ her bf and the staff had no idea was on the floor. And for the injury a lady had in a store because of an out of control kid breaking something on the floor--and the out of control kid was HERS. It just goes on and on and on. What ARE these people thinking on those juries?

So, I have faith that some attorney is going to take up the "cause" for this "poor helpless" girl. And, I have faith that some jury will think that those being sued have enough money that they could surely pay this girl for all the grief she has gone thru. Wonder if she is aware how much of her spoils the lawyer will be taking for his cut? She probably figures that any "winnings" they get will be hers-all hers. She has another rude awakening coming, that's for sure.

:thumbsup: ITA

Here is my favorite Florida jury award, from recent memory. A family that tossed personal responsibility to the side and wanted to go after the cash cow.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2006/11/3/196188.html

Amy
07-14-2009, 09:34 PM
:thumbsup: ITA

Here is my favorite Florida jury award, from recent memory. A family that tossed personal responsibility to the side and wanted to go after the cash cow.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2006/11/3/196188.html

Another of the most stupid jury verdicts was for a family's homeowner insurance to pay a burglar (or whatever he was called) for being stuck in their garage for 8 days, eating dog food and drinking coke. Seems he left the house thru the garage, the door locked behind him, he couldn't open the garage door, and the window was too small for him to crawl thru. I guess homebuilders need to build them with the safety of criminals in mind!!!!:cursing:

I just don't see where the jurors are coming from, that they award people for criminal behaviour, and penalize the actual victims in the case.

msgatorslayer
07-19-2009, 12:56 AM
Seeking love, teen Jasmine Bedwell fell for man accused of killing her baby

http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1019680.ece