May 1, 2, 3

[n/t]

I wish we had a link with some sort of time line.

I read somewhere in this thread that the girls switched hotel. Is that correct? If so, did they just move on without Brittanee and left all of her stuff there?

Geeez,,,,with friends like them who needs enemies? I'm really disgusted by their attitudes. They just take off and leave her there without alerting authorities she was missing, the Jen girl posts pictures on her facebook and no mention of Brittanee. Like nothing happened?

Very bizarre.

[Amy]

As ball-sie as these teens think they are, as much as they think they 'know' what their doing, they remain NAIVE.

She was out by HERSELF, naive for sure.

We have not yet heard about the activities earlier when she separated from her girlfriends. They were reported at a restaurant around 3pm.
What was going on the hours before she went to visit the boys?

At least we know the teens that returned to Rochester have all been questioned by investigators up there.

Her debit account has been replenished by her mother and so far, no transactions. That's scary.

Her cell phone is either turned off or the battery is dead. By now the battery would be dead since she didin't have her charger on her. Everything she owned was left back at the hotel. These teens are hooked on using their cells 24 hrs a day. She hasn't returned he boyfriend's texts or any other friends to date. NOT looking good.

I sincerely don't think she's a runaway. It's not looking good at this point.

My heart goes out to her mother.

If she was truely running away, I think even she would realize her cell phone could be traced. And if she contacted anyone from home, she would surely expect them to tell the authorities or her parents, so I don't think she would contact them. That is, if she ran away.

[Alwill978]

ITA. I don't think I've commented in this thread yet but I have read every single post. I feel at times that Brittanee is being put down because she is pretty and seems to take interest in her looks. Even in the beginning of this case I remember comments being made about the way she looked and how it seemed she couldn't go long without certain things or that there was NO way she would be a housekeeper. Those comments irritate me when the concern is on the fact that this girl is missing and there is no information, whatsoever, as to where she might be, dead or alive.

Also, aproudmom, were you ever able to see the Facebook pictures of Jenn Oberer? Did you, or anyone else, happen to notice the picture of the guy making a silly face and Jenn had labeled it something in reference to the "trip home"? I'll have to go back and find out what picture # it was but I found it quite disturbing that they would be joking around in that way (or posting those pictures) when their "friend" is missing and they are driving 1000 miles home without her.

ITA..I had said that in an earlier post too. And there were people making out in the car it appeared. Now question- if those 10+ people went to the beach together with BD..did ANY of the stay to help find her?? How did they all get to MB....how many cars? I think LE should stay in touch with everyone of those people.

[Maelstrom5]

Good Morning all,

A few observations:

(Brittanee and her mom)
Wednesday: Brittanee asks both parents if she can go to Myrtle Beach, both say no. BD fights with mom over this then calms down and asks if she can stay over night at a friend’s house; mom says yes.

Thursday: Mom calls BD on her cell and asks to speak with the father of the friend she is staying with; someone (unidentified male) gets on the phone and pretends to be a parent.

Thursday through Saturday: Mom and BD exchange phone and text messages. Mom does not find out BD is in MB until very early Sunday morning when she gets a call from BD’s boyfriend telling her Britt is missing.

Hypothesis’s suggested here:
1- Mom did not know.
2- Mom choose to believe BD.
3- Mom was so distracted by pending divorcé she did not catch on.
4- Mom was a very lax parent who did not check closely enough .

(Brittanee and friends)
Wednesday: BD meets friends and heads south. The friends maintain they never knew Brittanee was not given permission to go but on Thursday someone assists Britt in the deception by pretending to be a parent.

Thursday through Saturday: 15 people from Rochester arrive in Myrtle Beach and share a “large room” They party, go to the beach, clubs, and loosely hang out together but many times go their separate ways.

Friday: Brittanee runs into Peter B (someone she knows) and three other men from Rochester at Club Kryptonite.

Saturday: Brit sees Peter B and friends again around 11AM. She leaves her hotel and walks a ½ mile to their Hotel arriving on or about 8 PM. She stays for 10 minutes or so saying something about black shorts and a argument over needing to return them, then leaves alone (she is seen on surveillance video leaving alone and apparently un-troubled) Britt sends a number of text messages between the time she leaves the guys room and 9:15 PM at which point in time all contact with Brittanee is lost

Sunday: The friends become worried when Britt does not return to the hotel room and call her BF back in Rochester to tell him she is missing. BF calls Brittanee’s mom who then calls a family friend and he dives down to MB to report Brit missing. Friends do not call police but are superficially questioned by Myrtle Beach PD.

Hypothesis’s suggested here:
1- Pete B and or his friends are responsible-Theory substantially discredited by surveillance video, along with willingness to be interviewed, assist LE, and provide DNA.
2- Friends are responsible- No evidence to suggest this, but friends seem to be both duplicitous and un-caring. Claiming not to know Brittanee went with them without her parent’s permission, yet calling BF not parents, when they became worried. Leave MB, return home, post pictures of BD in MB on FaceBook, but seem to be going about their life like nothing much happened.
3- Someone else, friend or stranger, took Brittanee- Again no evidence to suggest this but Britt’s failure to contact anyone, collect clothing, makeup, or use available debt card suggest the possibility of her being held against her will or worse.
4- Teen runaway. No information that precludes this possibility, but nothing outside of her being depressed to suggest it either.

[playnice]

Maybe there should be a national campaign with ads about leaving friends behind, let them go off by their self, not staying in groups etc.
Like the "Friends Don't Let Friends Drive Drunk."

[Alwill978]

Good Morning all,

A few observations:

(Brittanee and her mom)
Wednesday: Brittanee asks both parents if she can go to Myrtle Beach, both say no. BD fights with mom over this then calms down and asks if she can stay over night at a friend’s house; mom says yes.

Thursday: Mom calls BD on her cell and asks to speak with the father of the friend she is staying with; someone (unidentified male) gets on the phone and pretends to be a parent.

Thursday through Saturday: Mom and BD exchange phone and text messages. Mom does not find out BD is in MB until very early Sunday morning when she gets a call from BD’s boyfriend telling her Britt is missing.

Hypothesis’s suggested here:
1- Mom did not know.
2- Mom choose to believe BD.
3- Mom was so distracted by pending divorcé she did not catch on.
4- Mom was a very lax parent who did not check closely enough .

(Brittanee and friends)
Wednesday: BD meets friends and heads south. The friends maintain they never knew Brittanee was not given permission to go but on Thursday someone assists Britt in the deception by pretending to be a parent.

Thursday through Saturday: 15 people from Rochester arrive in Myrtle Beach and share a “large room” They party, go to the beach, clubs, and loosely hang out together but many times go their separate ways.

Friday: Brittanee runs into Peter B (someone she knows) and three other men from Rochester at Club Kryptonite.

Saturday: Brit sees Peter B and friends again around 11AM. She leaves her hotel and walks a ½ mile to their Hotel arriving on or about 8 PM. She stays for 10 minutes or so saying something about black shorts and a argument over needing to return them, then leaves alone (she is seen on surveillance video leaving alone and apparently un-troubled) Britt sends a number of text messages between the time she leaves the guys room and 9:15 PM at which point in time all contact with Brittanee is lost

Sunday: The friends become worried when Britt does not return to the hotel room and call her BF back in Rochester to tell him she is missing. BF calls Brittanee’s mom who then calls a family friend and he dives down to MB to report Brit missing. Friends do not call police but are superficially questioned by Myrtle Beach PD.

Hypothesis’s suggested here:
1- Pete B and or his friends are responsible-Theory substantially discredited by surveillance video, along with willingness to be interviewed, assist LE, and provide DNA.
2- Friends are responsible- No evidence to suggest this, but friends seem to be both duplicitous and un-caring. Claiming not to know Brittanee went with them without her parent’s permission, yet calling BF not parents, when they became worried. Leave MB, return home, post pictures of BD in MB on FaceBook, but seem to be going about their life like nothing much happened.
3- Someone else, friend or stranger, took Brittanee- Again no evidence to suggest this but Britt’s failure to contact anyone, collect clothing, makeup, or use available debt card suggest the possibility of her being held against her will or worse.
4- Teen runaway. No information that precludes this possibility, but nothing outside of her being depressed to suggest it either.

OUTSTANDING!! Thanks for putting all together. If you could do this on all the boards...I would be all set! :rolleyes:

[playnice]

Maelstrom5 good timeline.

[playnice]

Have we heard who these texts after she left the boys hotel were to, who she was supposed to go see and which hotel they were at?

[Ltlcheryl]

Watching the local news this morning, there was just a minute spot of talking about "no new news" on Brittanney and that she was still missing and her mom was still in town looking for her. According to WBTW channel 13 news they had a team of retired sled officers (not sure they were sled or FBI) coming in to Myrtle Beach to help look for her. Lets hope we hear something soon. Its not looking good at this point. I dont think she is a run away. I think something bad has happened here. :sad:

[Alwill978]

Anyone know what it means when these 17-20 year olds say " I'm doing tangsss" and "panged out"? :confused:


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465&page=3#/photo_comments.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465

[playnice]

I wonder if she had any money left to use her debit card or she had withdrew all she had before Sat night? If there wasnt any money left in her account that may explain why her card hasnt been used. She may not know that her family deposited some for her.
The cell going dead may have been because she didnt have her charger and she may have had makeup in that bag she was carrying.
I wonder how many clothes she took with her to MB? Enough that if her friends were mad at her she would go back to get or just leave thinking they would take them back home?
Id like to know how big the rift was between her and the girls.
Alot of questions yet to be answered.

[playnice]

Anyone know what it means when these 17-20 year olds say " I'm doing tangsss" and "panged out"? :confused:


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465&page=3#/photo_comments.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465

:laugh: Never heard of it. Hope we find out.

[iluvmua]

Anyone know what it means when these 17-20 year olds say " I'm doing tangsss" and "panged out"? :confused:


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465&page=3#/photo_comments.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465

according to Urban Dictionary the word Pang means:

The sudden urge to want to hook up/make out with an unlikely person.

don't know what tangs means.

I've never heard of these words and I'm 24. :ohmy:

[Ltlcheryl]

I went to her missing persons site and they have several pictures on there. None of her while at the beach. I think they need to post some of the pictures off of the Jenn's facebook page, because many people may reconize her more if they see her picture on how she looked at the beach, some of these pictures were even taken at the club they went to I think. Just a thought

[aproudmom]

Anyone know what it means when these 17-20 year olds say " I'm doing tangsss" and "panged out"? :confused:


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465&page=3#/photo_comments.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465

lol want me to ask my kids..lol.I have never heard of that but sounds like slang to me..

[aproudmom]

according to Urban Dictionary the word Pang means:

The sudden urge to want to hook up/make out with an unlikely person.

don't know what tangs means.

I've never heard of these words and I'm 24. :ohmy:

umm not sure this is what I got:biggrin:

The guy's in the 70's used to say "Gonna get some poontang

Poontang - girl's private region

[Ice Cycle]

G Morning, A theory occurred to me last night that is kind of out their but...I was wondering if they have checked the water at all?
Suppose she had got in to it with the girls or made up the story about the shorts to leave the boy's room and just didn't have anything to do and decided she was going for a swim. Is it possible she had her b/suit on under her clothes and aren't those Hotel's on the beach? They might close the beach's at a certain time but I do no in Fl people go in anyway. Just a thought but I really don't think this is a run away, not at this point.

[aproudmom]

Anyone know what it means when these 17-20 year olds say " I'm doing tangsss" and "panged out"? :confused:


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465&page=3#/photo_comments.php?aid=2019879&id=1013670465

Morning Alwill
I know I used to love that TANG drink:biggrin:
I can finally look at the pics remembered my password finally...so thanks for posting them..

[Ltlcheryl]

Would hate to think she went for a swim with it being so dark outside. The beach that time of the night is DARK! I don't even like walking out there after dark. Plus the fact of her being alone, not so sure. I did think about her maybe walking on the pier? The local papers have stated they were searching the waters but with the strong tides and currents, not sure they would find her right away if thats the case. I know when we were on the Blvd Saturday night, it was crowded, but not so bad. BUT, she still could have been abducted and no one notice it. So many people walking the strip most of the night. The longer it goes on with no word or trace of her, the worse my thoughts get. Have not heard anything on weather the girls had been drinking that day/night or not? Club Kryptonite is a club I would never allow (knowing of course) my daughter to go to. LOTS of weirdos there. It's just a strange place and many crazy things have happened there. NOT a place you would want your child to be. I hope she did not return there Saturday night. There's just no telling right now what happened, but I feel very strong that this is NOT a run away case.

[aproudmom]

To All,

You cannot use personal names without their permission or if they have been mentioned in the Media & cannot post personal info regarding the person without proof or permission. This is an ongoing case and the forum will be watched so please be extra careful of what and who you post about.

Thank you.

K thanks for the warning CW

[aproudmom]

Would hate to think she went for a swim with it being so dark outside. The beach that time of the night is DARK! I don't even like walking out there after dark. Plus the fact of her being alone, not so sure. I did think about her maybe walking on the pier? The local papers have stated they were searching the waters but with the strong tides and currents, not sure they would find her right away if thats the case. I know when we were on the Blvd Saturday night, it was crowded, but not so bad. BUT, she still could have been abducted and no one notice it. So many people walking the strip most of the night. The longer it goes on with no word or trace of her, the worse my thoughts get. Have not heard anything on weather the girls had been drinking that day/night or not? Club Kryptonite is a club I would never allow (knowing of course) my daughter to go to. LOTS of weirdos there. It's just a strange place and many crazy things have happened there. NOT a place you would want your child to be. I hope she did not return there Saturday night. There's just no telling right now what happened, but I feel very strong that this is NOT a run away case.

I remember walking the boardwalk and it felt much safer than the beach to me.. it was more lit up and more people..but never know..

[Alwill978]

To All,

You cannot use personal names without their permission or if they have been mentioned in the Media & cannot post personal info regarding the person without proof or permission. This is an ongoing case and the forum will be watched so please be extra careful of what and who you post about.

Thank you.

CW..thanks for the info..and (removing the post I had emailed you about yesterday).

[Alwill978]

What am I missing...

this article says the tape shows BD leaving the hotel at 8:40 to 8:55...but I see at the bottom of the tap 7:55??

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/882333.html

:confused:

[aproudmom]

They're also calling her hair brown and all the pics and videos show a bleached blonde or at least strongly highlighted blonde.

Or am I suddenly color-blind???

omg here we go again they had to let everyone know about Sandra C hair color being lighter a week after the posters were up....

[aproudmom]

What am I missing...

this article says the tape shows BD leaving the hotel at 8:40 to 8:55...but I see at the bottom of the tap 7:55??

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/882333.html

:confused:

ok wait is this her hotel or the boys?

[Alwill978]

ok wait is this her hotel or the boys?

the boys I thought?

Also here is the Facebook page....for BD Missing....they are updating daily.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=88697134048

[aproudmom]

why is it timestamped at 7:55 56 sec. 4/25

[Alwill978]

What am I missing...

this article says the tape shows BD leaving the hotel at 8:40 to 8:55...but I see at the bottom of the tap 7:55??

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/882333.html

:confused:

I was wrong..this is of her ENTERING the lobby of the boys hotel....right and says 7:55? Why does the article say 8:40 to 8:55?????

[aproudmom]

the boys I thought?

Also here is the Facebook page....for BD Missing....they are updating daily.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=88697134048

have they released all 3 pics of her? I really don't want to post this link he is a jerk but it has 3 pics on it of her..

[Alwill978]

have they released all 3 pics of her? I really don't want to post this link he is a jerk but it has 3 pics on it of her..

They have added more photos ...but not sure why they arent posting photos of her that the people have up on facebook..when she was IN MB!?? confusing...

[aproudmom]

I was wrong..this is of her ENTERING the lobby of the boys hotel....right and says 7:55? Why does the article say 8:40 to 8:55?????

Al they have her leaving at 8:45 on one site..
BD 17, leaves the Bluewater Resort at around 8:45 Saturday night in what may be the last photo of her alive. Photo: Myrtle Beach Police Department

[Maelstrom5]

I went to her missing persons site and they have several pictures on there. None of her while at the beach. I think they need to post some of the pictures off of the Jenn's facebook page, because many people may reconize her more if they see her picture on how she looked at the beach, some of these pictures were even taken at the club they went to I think. Just a thought

Hi,

Hi,

I took your advice and added cropped photo’s from the trip to my MySpace page for Brittanee.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2107073&imageID=34513126

To the best of my knowledge photos have not been copy righted and are in general circulation

[Alwill978]

Al they have her leaving at 8:45 on one site..
BD 17, leaves the Bluewater Resort at around 8:45 Saturday night in what may be the last photo of her alive. Photo: Myrtle Beach Police Department

Ok...so if she ENTERED the hotel at 7:55pm and left at 8:45...that is almost an hour....didnt the boys say she was only there 10 minutes or so?

Man, I hope they find her...soon.

[aproudmom]

They have added more photos ...but not sure why they arent posting photos of her that the people have up on facebook..when she was IN MB!?? confusing...

They have released 3 of her coming and then leaving the hotel...

[aproudmom]

Ok...so if she ENTERED the hotel at 7:55pm and left at 8:45...that is almost an hour....didnt the boys say she was only there 10 minutes or so?

Man, I hope they find her...soon.

check your PM in a minute please

[aproudmom]

Watching the local news this morning, there was just a minute spot of talking about "no new news" on Brittanney and that she was still missing and her mom was still in town looking for her. According to WBTW channel 13 news they had a team of retired sled officers (not sure they were sled or FBI) coming in to Myrtle Beach to help look for her. Lets hope we hear something soon. Its not looking good at this point. I dont think she is a run away. I think something bad has happened here. :sad:

SLED
South Carolina Law Enforcement Division

[Maelstrom5]

Police search SC beach for missing NY teen
www.thestate.com/statewire/story/769520.html

**Snipped**

On Thursday, Knipes released hotel surveillance photos showing Brittanee entering the hotel of several male friends around 8:25 p.m. Saturday. About 15 minutes later, she is captured leaving the Bluewater Resort, and is not seen again on surveillance video, Knipes said.

So give a few minutes for Brittanee to get to the guys room, a few to return to the entrance, and the guys timeframe (about 10 minutes) holds, the only discrepancy is that she got there later then they first thought

[playnice]

I wonder how long it takes LE to retreive her text messages? I suppose they have to subpoena them. Hopefully there is some evidence there as to who she was talking to and where she was headed.

[Ice Cycle]

I wonder how long it takes LE to retreive her text messages? I suppose they have to subpoena them. Hopefully there is some evidence there as to who she was talking to and where she was headed.

See this is what I am not clear about is the text messages, is it right that she sent 2 after leaving the boys rooms and one was to the girls and the other to her BF, and they were about 45 min apart? So where was she during that time between texts? Also if I remember right she told the BF she was going somewhere with friends, this doesn't sound right either as why would she not of said who and better yet why would he of not asked who? I know people text alot especially younger ones but no phones calls to talk to the BF that night, a Saturday night and friends or not at a boys hotel room when she had a BF. Wondering if she went there for some purpose other than to just hang out.
Just thinking it through and believe their is some missing pieces.

[n/t]

I'd like to know if any of the boys were seen leaving the hotel that same night and if so how soon after Brittanee left?

[Ice Cycle]

I'd like to know if any of the boys were seen leaving the hotel that same night and if so how soon after Brittanee left?

Yes I would like to know that also, as possible had she arranged to meet one of them or did one follow her? Also what was she doing between the time of the 2 texts she made?

[~jomomma~]

See this is what I am not clear about is the text messages, is it right that she sent 2 after leaving the boys rooms and one was to the girls and the other to her BF, and they were about 45 min apart? So where was she during that time between texts? Also if I remember right she told the BF she was going somewhere with friends, this doesn't sound right either as why would she not of said who and better yet why would he of not asked who? I know people text alot especially younger ones but no phones calls to talk to the BF that night, a Saturday night and friends or not at a boys hotel room when she had a BF. Wondering if she went there for some purpose other than to just hang out.
Just thinking it through and believe their is some missing pieces.

this is what i was confused about last night too.

i think i posted last night that i was reading she texts friends around 8:45 to say she was on way back

she texts again around 9:15 to say she was stopping at another friends hotel.

where does the BF come in? i'm not seeing it.

i have a feeling she met up with someone (that she did not know), had drinks...something and hasn't been seen since :sad:

i remember plenty of times in FL, getting approached by guys.
one wanted me to take a ride on his boat to the bahamas!
i sure hope she is ok

[Ice Cycle]

this is what i was confused about last night too.

i think i posted last night that i was reading she texts friends around 8:45 to say she was on way back

she texts again around 9:15 to say she was stopping at another friends hotel.

where does the BF come in? i'm not seeing it.

i have a feeling she met up with someone (that she did not know), had drinks...something and hasn't been seen since :sad:

i remember plenty of times in FL, getting approached by guys.
one wanted me to take a ride on his boat to the bahamas!
i sure hope she is ok

Yeah I know it happens but wonder if that is the case here, I mean even if she was mad at the girls and didn't want to be around them seems like she would of told the BF just in general conversation of who she was going with unless it was another guy?

[RADAR]

The point is, this young girl left the hotel where the boys were staying. You can believe it would have been noted IF she was seen going back into the hotel at a later time.

Gotta hope everyones cell phone records have been requested besides Brittanee's. They will tell a good part of the story and firm up a timeline for LE.

She was by HERSELF. There was a lapse in time between the last 2 cell calls. Was she just wondering around putting off going back to the room w/the girls to face the anger about the shorts she borrowed?

Did she decide to stop in the Club Kryptonite (sp) on her way back (not aware if it is on the main road in town - in the direction of her hotel), after all, it was a 20 block walk from the boys hotel to the place the girls were staying.

She probably had a fake ID like 3/4 of all teens have in their possession so she would have been able to get into most clubs that allowed 18yr olds.

20 blocks is a LONG distance in a town you are not real familiar with, plus she was NAIVE as to the dangers that lurk in the streets and the freaks that hang out at the clubs.

[juliekan]

fox news channel is fixing to talk about this case.

aarrgggg...now they are going to a white house briefing

[RADAR]

Found this article
"Police also said they were able to locate Brittanee's cell phone as it traveled out of Williamsburg County, which is inland, toward the South Carolina coast. That was days ago."
LINK:
http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=87961

What day was it and what time of day?

No further mention in any of the news articles AND not mentioned on any of the TV interivews or programs.

With regard to her walking a 1/2 mile by HERSELF on the main drag, know that there is lots of traffic, slow moving cars loaded with young people looking to 'party'. Maybe someone hollared out a window, 'hey babe, where ya headed?" and she accepted a ride. ????

[~jomomma~]

please let us know what they say julie! thanks!

[M_J]

Hi there,

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this video:

http://www.scnow.com/scp/news/local/grand_strand/article/video_exclusive_mother_of_missing_ny_teen_talks_to _news_13/46826/#fragment-1

it's of her mom, talking about everything.

[juliekan]

Fox report:

aaarrrggg, nothing new except to say all the kids have been interviewed, and police have cleared some and are reinterviewing the rest. BUT, they also reported some info that I believe was inaccurate.......as always, we have more accurate info here...

[lune3]

At this point, the only hope I have for Brittanee is that she's missing due to something related to her Citalopram meds. Antidepressants and drinking do not mix. Or suddenly discontinuing such meds is dangerous.

Several years ago I had a friend who acted normal one day and vanished the next. He was found two weeks later on the streets in another city, completely disoriented. He had abruptly stopped taking his lithium for bipolar after feeling good, justifying to himself he didn't need it. Stopping Citalopram all of a sudden could have the same effect.

I hope they've investigated all the hospitals for Jane Does in neighbouring areas.

I don't believe she is a runaway.

[FindtheLost]

This morning on the news when they were saying SLED was coming in they also said something about if she was alive they didn't believe she was still in the MB area.

Has anyone else heard this? I need to find the link as I'm not sure what news station this was on. I was rushing out the door to get my son to school.

[FindtheLost]

New report just out about the search. Some new leads.


http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623

[Ice Cycle]

Found this article
"Police also said they were able to locate Brittanee's cell phone as it traveled out of Williamsburg County, which is inland, toward the South Carolina coast. That was days ago."
LINK:
http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=87961

What day was it and what time of day?

No further mention in any of the news articles AND not mentioned on any of the TV interivews or programs.

With regard to her walking a 1/2 mile by HERSELF on the main drag, know that there is lots of traffic, slow moving cars loaded with young people looking to 'party'. Maybe someone hollared out a window, 'hey babe, where ya headed?" and she accepted a ride. ????

I wonder if the part I have bold actually came from LE or was it a source?

[RADAR]

I wonder if the part I have bold actually came from LE or was it a source?

LE said it. Here's another article from Fox news:The teen's hotel room at the Bar Harbor Hotel was abandoned, and she left all her belongings behind. Her cell phone, which has been tracked, was the only item missing, according to Myrtle Beach police spokesman Capt. David Knipes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518596,00.html

We need some info as to WHERE it was last tracked, what day and time.

[playnice]

New report just out about the search. Some new leads.


http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623

Myrtle Beach Police Capt. David Knipes confirmed to WMBF News that crews are at the North Santee River following up on leads received earlier this week on the whereabouts of Brittanee Drexel, 17. Knipes would not confirm what the lead was, but said they are "leaving no stone unturned."

OK. What is by this river? Are there hotels etc or is it an isolated area?

[FindtheLost]

Myrtle Beach Police Capt. David Knipes confirmed to WMBF News that crews are at the North Santee River following up on leads received earlier this week on the whereabouts of Brittanee Drexel, 17. Knipes would not confirm what the lead was, but said they are "leaving no stone unturned."

OK. What is by this river? Are there hotels etc or is it an isolated area?

I'm not exactly sure where they are on the Santee River so I'm not sure if it is a developed area. North Santee River is in Georgetown County - just a county over from Horry (Myrtle Beach).

The news comes on in about 50 minutes so I'll watch to see the exact location.

Here is a map that shows the river in relation to Myrtle Beach -scroll down to the bottom maps and you can see the locations labeled.

http://geology.com/state-map/south-carolina.shtml

[~jomomma~]

ohhh, i hope it's not bad

heading home now....will check in asap!

[RADAR]

Santee River runs along the side of the forest and dumps out into the Atlantic
According to the map & directions, it is 53.5 mi. south of Myrtle Beach.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/BRITTANEE-santeervfrommyrtlebeach.jpg

[playnice]

Santee River runs along the side of the forest and dumps out into the Atlantic
According to the map & directions, it is 53.5 mi. south of Myrtle Beach.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/BRITTANEE-santeervfrommyrtlebeach.jpg

Well that doesnt sound good.

[RADAR]

Well that doesnt sound good.

Agree. LE are always vague, not to mention we are at the mercy of the news reporters.

Wondering??? just wondering, if this is where they tracked her cell to? My earlier post-a few up-has the link to the news article where they said they did track her phone earlier ( whatever that meant )

[desmom]

Sorry if this is a duplicate post:

Spring Break Trip Turns Into Mom's Nightmare
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7479898&page=1

Brittanee Drexel was last seen leaving her hotel about 8:45 p.m. last Saturday. But in the six days since, there has been no activity on her credit cards or her cell phone, save for a signal that was traced to a nearby town around midnight Saturday.

[Maelstrom5]

At this point, the only hope I have for Brittanee is that she's missing due to something related to her Citalopram meds. Antidepressants and drinking do not mix. Or suddenly discontinuing such meds is dangerous.

Several years ago I had a friend who acted normal one day and vanished the next. He was found two weeks later on the streets in another city, completely disoriented. He had abruptly stopped taking his lithium for bipolar after feeling good, justifying to himself he didn't need it. Stopping Citalopram all of a sudden could have the same effect.

I hope they've investigated all the hospitals for Jane Does in neighbouring areas.

I don't believe she is a runaway.

I agree Britanee probably did not but one thing that could account for Brittanee going missing like she has is if she went off her meds while at spring brake.

Back in 07 I helped in the search for another 17 year old by the name Megan Roberts. Meg is Bi-polar. She stopped taking her meds and vanished with a guy she met only a week earlier. I contacted her parents and helped out by creating Internet postings/cyber flyers as well as searching a state park where we had a unconfirmed sighting. (I never told her parents that I was hoping not to find anything.)

I also made sure the local people did not get involved with things best left to the CSP and the FBI. (they wanted to question a few people and I knew getting a cold call from the FBI would produce better results)

Long story short, Megan was found 28 days later in New Jersey. She had traveled through four states and was in bad shape, she had lost a lot of weight (she was petite to begin with) and needed to be hospitalized.

The very good news is that after a week in the hospital and reintroduction of her meds she was fine. She is now in her second year at WCSU.

PS: the world is a very small place at times. I had never met Megan’s parents before she went missing but as it turned out, I had worked with her grand-dad for over 20 years.

Megan Roberts Recovered 11/5/07.. Connecticut
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=951270&imageID=11831966

[FindtheLost]

I missed the news but my husband said they are at a boat landing searching so the area would be pretty deserted.

I'll watch for the news next hour.

[lune3]

I agree Britanee probably did not but one thing that could account for Brittanee going missing like she has is if she went off her meds while at spring brake.

Back in 07 I helped in the search for another 17 year old by the name Megan Roberts. Meg is Bi-polar. She stopped taking her meds and vanished with a guy she met only a week earlier. I contacted her parents and helped out by creating Internet postings/cyber flyers as well as searching a state park where we had a unconfirmed sighting. (I never told her parents that I was hoping not to find anything.)

I also made sure the local people did not get involved with things best left to the CSP and the FBI. (they wanted to question a few people and I knew getting a cold call from the FBI would produce better results)

Long story short, Megan was found 28 days later in New Jersey. She had traveled through four states and was in bad shape, she had lost a lot of weight (she was petite to begin with) and needed to be hospitalized.

The very good news is that after a week in the hospital and reintroduction of her meds she was fine. She is now in her second year at WCSU.

PS: the world is a very small place at times. I had never met Megan’s parents before she went missing but as it turned out, I had worked with her grand-dad for over 20 years.

Megan Roberts Recovered 11/5/07.. Connecticut
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=951270&imageID=11831966

From the latest article posted by desmom:
"Diagnosed with depression, Brittanee had recently been put on anti-depressant medication after the stress of family problems, including the divorce of her mother and stepfather, became too much for her to deal with on her own.
.....
Though the anti-depressents were prescribed only recently, Drexel said they were told they could take about a month to build up in her system. "

(my bolding)

Seems the Citalopram was recently prescribed. That her body hasn't adapted to the chemicals yet, I don't know if that's good or bad with respect to discontinuing them. Also, since she started on this recently there may have been adverse side effects, or certainly if the meds are combined with drinking.

I'm concerned about this river search, and the fact her cell phone was traced to an area away from MB that Saturday night. How would she have gotten there other than with somebody? Unless she took a bus, but then I think LE would already have info on that.

[Maelstrom5]

From the latest article posted by desmom:
"Diagnosed with depression, Brittanee had recently been put on anti-depressant medication after the stress of family problems, including the divorce of her mother and stepfather, became too much for her to deal with on her own.
.....
Though the anti-depressents were prescribed only recently, Drexel said they were told they could take about a month to build up in her system. "

(my bolding)

Seems the Citalopram was recently prescribed. That her body hasn't adapted to the chemicals yet, I don't know if that's good or bad with respect to discontinuing them. Also, since she started on this recently there may have been adverse side effects, or certainly if the meds are combined with drinking.

I'm concerned about this river search, and the fact her cell phone was traced to an area away from MB that Saturday night. How would she have gotten there other than with somebody? Unless she took a bus, but then I think LE would already have info on that.

TY lune3,

I am not qualified to make a diagnosis. I HAVE worked with chemicals for over 30 years, but I worked for a major food company, and the chemicals I worked with are the type that create new food flavor profiles.
(Duke, the Irish setter on TV, may say he knows what the flavor of Bush Beans is, but I could give you a chemical/percentage brake down; but if I did, unlike like Duke, I would have to kill you LOL)

I have very little knowledge about those used to correct mood imbalances. What I do know is that many missing children who are recovered do suffer for one of more physiological / Psychological problems.

[FindtheLost]

From WMBF

LE received a specific lead that sent them to the area they are searching. It is about 50 miles from MB. They have just packed up and are leaving for the day and will continue tomorrow. They are in boats and helicopters.

--It doesn't make sense to me that they would quit searching for the day with so many daylight hours left.

[playnice]

From WMBF

LE received a specific lead that sent them to the area they are searching. It is about 50 miles from MB. They have just packed up and are leaving for the day and will continue tomorrow. They are in boats and helicopters.

--It doesn't make sense to me that they would quit searching for the day with so many daylight hours left.

So they are searching for a body it sounds like. Those that follow these cases know they usually dont end well. Each case I hope that this one will end different. Its not looking good on this one.

[~jomomma~]

So they are searching for a body it sounds like.

ugghhh, it sounds like it.

i don't get why they'd quit so early either! i wish we'd hear more :sad:

thanks Find...for your updates!

[Maelstrom5]

[QUOTE=RachelRose;13063567]Coldwater, since both girls have been interviewed by the mainstream media, and their full names and quotes have been published in the media and they are recognized as the girls who went with Brittanee to Myrtle Beach, isn't it fair game to discuss them? QUOTE]


Sorry I think I left a word out of my previous answer.

You CAN use the names if you have their permission of IF THEY have been named in the media.

TY CW,


We were freaking a bit because how were we going to discuss/debate a case when those reported/quoted in the press could not be mentioned. A secret code known only to us at in-session?

LOL, just kidding, but you did have use wondering and I think a few new people backed off.

[FindtheLost]

From WMBF News - TV
should be on WMBFNEWS.com soon

They are searching both North and South Santee River - a three mile area. LE said they have been searching in this area since Tuesday. No information is given on the specific lead.

Also it looks like they were still searching but had just moved down the river a little so they have not completely stopped for the night.

[playnice]

Thanks for the update. If you hear any more please keep us updated. It is appreciated.

[playnice]

I wonder if that was where her phone pinged last?

[~jomomma~]

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S909699.shtml?cat=565

Brittanee's dad interviewed today. some clips of the search.

they're also conducting land search with canines :sad:

[FindtheLost]

I wonder if that was where her phone pinged last?


Yes, LE said this the same area.

[RADAR]

Yes, LE said this the same area.

Do you have a news link where LE said THAT is the same area as her last phone ping? Thank you.

[Maelstrom5]

From WMBF News - TV
should be on WMBFNEWS.com soon

They are searching both North and South Santee River - a three mile area. LE said they have been searching in this area since Tuesday. No information is given on the specific lead.

Also it looks like they were still searching but had just moved down the river a little so they have not completely stopped for the night.

Not good FindtheLost,

I am sitting here in CT. For the moment the clouds have passed, new leaves are on the trees, but we can still see Lake Candlewood sparkling in the setting sun from our windows.

A very long time ago I took a picture of a teen girl on a beach; not that far from my present day home. I had a major/never mentioned/ crush on her in high school. Her name was Ann, and in my minds eye I still can see a picture of her at 17, In a bikini, smiling with two friends, the world at her doorstep

That long ago picture is not that much different then the pictures I posted of Brittanee, today.
Ok; different clothing, hair style, makeup. But the promise, the hope, that never changes.

Brittanee; Please find your way home.

R.I.P. Ann, all my love, I will see you again some day

[playnice]

Do you have a news link where LE said THAT is the same area as her last phone ping? Thank you.

Police also said they were able to locate Brittanee's cell phone as it traveled out of Williamsburg County, which is inland, toward the South Carolina coast. That was days ago.
http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=87961
I found this one. would that be toward the river?

[desmom]

Search for missing teen leads to Georgetown County
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294771

Tip leads to SC river search for missing NY teen
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10289170

ETA ~ I tried to post the above in the links thread, but it is locked. :shrug:

[RADAR]

Found this article
"Police also said they were able to locate Brittanee's cell phone as it traveled out of Williamsburg County, which is inland, toward the South Carolina coast. That was days ago."
LINK:
http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=87961

What day was it and what time of day?

No further mention in any of the news articles AND not mentioned on any of the TV interivews or programs.

With regard to her walking a 1/2 mile by HERSELF on the main drag, know that there is lots of traffic, slow moving cars loaded with young people looking to 'party'. Maybe someone hollared out a window, 'hey babe, where ya headed?" and she accepted a ride. ????

Bumped my post #55.
If the article noted in the above link was quoted properly by the news reporter, " leaving Williamsburg County heading toward the coast ", you will see this MUST be the last cell phone ping area they were able to obtain.
LOOK at my map. Williamsburg IS inland and you would have to go East toward the coast in order to 'leave' the county. Not good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/BRITTANEEWiliamsburgCtytocoast.jpg

[playnice]

No it isnt. I hope that they have her cell records to see who she contacted after she left the boys hotel.
Im really afraid that a predator took her when she was walking back tho.:sad:

[FindtheLost]

Do you have a news link where LE said THAT is the same area as her last phone ping? Thank you.


It was on the 6:00 news. It should be on SCNOW.com when they update their stories. I just checked and they hadn't updated online yet.


***I have a question - should I not post until they have the links available? I try to list what news cast the information is coming from but I did forget when I responded back to the ping question. One station in MB has news from 4-6:30 and they update each story every half hour.

[Maelstrom5]

Nothing I am reading is sounding good.

So last post for the day, hoping with all my heart I will wake up tomorrow, and Brit will be found ok.

Completely off topic; But please, if you care about missing teens; please read.


Documentary examines U.S. child sex trade
www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE53S15X20090429?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc

**snipped**
“The international group also says 300,000 U.S. children are at risk of being forced into the sex trade.”

From My blog scroll down post 5:

‘The Missing Teens.. We never see.’

When American's hear the term 'sex trafficking' we think of teen girls and young adult women taken from foreign countries and brought to the USA to work as prostitutes and sex slaves. We read the stories and feel anger over the fact that some people will use others in such a fashion, but rarely do we take a close look at the problem.

If we did we would find that as troubling as those stories are, they only skim the surface of the problem. We would find that for every teen/ young woman taken from a foreign country in a given year, approximately four American teens/women are trafficked. We would find that a number of the girls we see on the street, the ones we look the other way at, are in fact the girl next door….”

Complete article and sources at my link:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=143252708

One of these girls was a 14 year old by the name of Marla Owen

Marla G. Owen posted Feb 4, 08 Video by Marla’s Dad
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=930649627230600973

Marla Owen.. Recovered 5/7/08.. California
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=951270&imageID=19895187

[playnice]

It was on the 6:00 news. It should be on SCNOW.com when they update their stories. I just checked and they hadn't updated online yet.


***I have a question - should I not post until they have the links available? I try to list what news cast the information is coming from but I did forget when I responded back to the ping question. One station in MB has news from 4-6:30 and they update each story every half hour.

No. dont wait until you have a link. Just put you just heard it on tv.
We want the news as it comes out. at least I do.:biggrin:
We found an earlier link about the ping from a couple of days ago so all is good.

[playnice]

Maelstrom5 i dont know what the heck is going on any more. There is such a prey on women and children.
People have just gone total crazy. It just seems like its spinning out of control and there doesnt seem to be any way to stop it.:sad:

[n/t]

Search for missing teen leads to Georgetown County
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294771

Tip leads to SC river search for missing NY teen
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10289170

ETA ~ I tried to post the above in the links thread, but it is locked. :shrug:

Hi des, did you try to PM CW? She may have closed it in error.

[n/t]

Search for missing teen leads to Georgetown County
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294771

Tip leads to SC river search for missing NY teen
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10289170

ETA ~ I tried to post the above in the links thread, but it is locked. :shrug:

It's interesting that they're searching Georgetown county and that's where the sighting was but later found not to be Brittanee. I wonder what led them to search there? A cellphone ping, perhaps?

[playnice]

Her mom is on NG. I think she is fearing the worst. She only had $100 when she left. Her mom said she would have called someone by now.
I think she still thinks peter hasnt been truthful to her but did say she hears he is cooperating with LE.
Back to CCCCCCCAAAASY.:rolleyes:

[doctor_J]

Bless her heart, she must be exhausted mentally and physically but Dawn Drexal could not make a lick of sense on NG. Nancy gave her almost unlimited time and repeatedly asked her what was not adding up? What were the differing stories from Peter? Over and Over. She could not put a coherent sentence together.

Nancy needs to be asking someone else, this poor woman is past being any help. If I had a missing child, I'd be even worse, a total basket case. I'm just thinking the public needs some info if they are going to help look.

[playnice]

Bless her heart, she must be exhausted mentally and physically but Dawn Drexal could not make a lick of sense on NG. Nancy gave her almost unlimited time and repeatedly asked her what was not adding up? What were the differing stories from Peter? Over and Over. She could not put a coherent sentence together.

Nancy needs to be asking someone else, this poor woman is past being any help. If I had a missing child, I'd be even worse, a total basket case. I'm just thinking the public needs some info if they are going to help look.

I hope she does have some support with her. My heart goes out to her.

[playnice]

So she wasn't on the bus after all. This is very sad. Will pray they find her safe.

I would be very happy to hear she ran away. :sad:

[desmom]

Hi des, did you try to PM CW? She may have closed it in error.

I am sure that is what happened. I sent CW a PM.

[n/t]

Her mom is on NG. I think she is fearing the worst. She only had $100 when she left. Her mom said she would have called someone by now.
I think she still thinks peter hasnt been truthful to her but did say she hears he is cooperating with LE.
Back to CCCCCCCAAAASY.:rolleyes:

I wonder why the finger pointing is at Peter,,,,,still? Is he just a scape goat or are they seeing something we're not?

[n/t]

I am sure that is what happened. I sent CW a PM.

:thumbsup:

[playnice]

I wonder why the finger pointing is at Peter,,,,,still? Is he just a scape goat or are they seeing something we're not?

LE said he isnt a POI or a suspect but from what was said on one of the evening HHN shows the other day they still keep going bacfk and asking him more questions so who really knows. I imagine that no one is completely cleared until they find her or some info that points her to being with someone else.

[doctor_J]

I wonder why the finger pointing is at Peter,,,,,still? Is he just a scape goat or are they seeing something we're not?

I think NG's always a day behind. She didn't even mention the river search.

Today we had TWO (2) Casey Anthony shows. JVM spent a lot of time on her. I quess we're stuck with all Casey, all the time till after the trial.

[Mamie]

No it isnt. I hope that they have her cell records to see who she contacted after she left the boys hotel.
Im really afraid that a predator took her when she was walking back tho.:sad:

You don't think it's the kid that ducked out of the hotel at 1:30 in the morning and went back to NY? My immediate thought was that it was him. JMO

[n/t]

You don't think it's the kid that ducked out of the hotel at 1:30 in the morning and went back to NY? My immediate thought was that it was him. JMO

But he wasn't the only one was he? I thought they all did but I could be wrong.

Can someone confirm that. TIA

[RADAR]

You don't think it's the kid that ducked out of the hotel at 1:30 in the morning and went back to NY? My immediate thought was that it was him. JMO


The 'kid' was ALL the guys. They all left at the same time. For that matter, they need to look at the girls real hard too that left her belonging behind at the hotel and headed back to Rochester. Nice friends, huh.

[Mamie]

But he wasn't the only one was he? I thought they all did but I could be wrong.

Can someone confirm that. TIA

Uh-oh-----well that puts a new spin on it then, possibly. I mean who checks out in the middle of the night and then doesn't wait around for the room deposit back? Unless the room was trashed and they knew better that they wouldn't get it back. I guess that could be motivation for checking out EARLY.

[Mamie]

The 'kid' was ALL the guys. They all left at the same time. For that matter, they need to look at the girls real hard too that left her belonging behind at the hotel and headed back to Rochester. Nice friends, huh.

Thanks, the fox article I read today only mentioned the one kid.

[n/t]

Uh-oh-----well that puts a new spin on it then, possibly. I mean who checks out in the middle of the night and then doesn't wait around for the room deposit back? Unless the room was trashed and they knew better that they wouldn't get it back. I guess that could be motivation for checking out EARLY.

Uh huh....especially if the room was in his name. I heard there were 15 in one room. Yikes! I can't imagine what condition they left that room.:unsure:

[skysblue]

Her mom is on NG. I think she is fearing the worst. She only had $100 when she left. Her mom said she would have called someone by now.
I think she still thinks peter hasnt been truthful to her but did say she hears he is cooperating with LE.
Back to CCCCCCCAAAASY.:rolleyes:


Oh boy, I feel bad for this woman she no doubt wants someone to blame and while these individuals that she went with have acted in poor taste, I really think she is barking up the wrong tree. If any of them seem more suspicious than the other I would say it's the girls "hands down" they brought her down there and she was staying with them, they should have been more responsible.

This doesn't look like it will have a happy ending and I feel so bad for this family this is a burden that no one should have to endure.:sad:

[~jomomma~]

It's interesting that they're searching Georgetown county and that's where the sighting was but later found not to be Brittanee. I wonder what led them to search there? A cellphone ping, perhaps?

http://www.13wham.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=206378@video.wokr13.com&navCatId=5

at the end of this video they mention the cell phone tracking.

man, i've been following a little bit on the family's facebook site. have any of you been reading it? i never heard of this michael crooks before. he's got his own blog? i can't believe the stuff he's saying. then another person shows up on the facebook saying michael confessed to him/her that he killed Brittanee. wow! :ohmy:

[playnice]

http://www.13wham.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=206378@video.wokr13.com&navCatId=5

at the end of this video they mention the cell phone tracking.

man, i've been following a little bit on the family's facebook site. have any of you been reading it? i never heard of this michael crooks before. he's got his own blog? i can't believe the stuff he's saying. then another person shows up on the facebook saying michael confessed to him/her that he killed Brittanee. wow! :ohmy:

Do you have the FB link handy? I was googling earlier and couldnt find it.

[~jomomma~]

Do you have the FB link handy? I was googling earlier and couldnt find it.

here ya go
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=88697134048&topic=8333#/group.php?gid=88697134048

[playnice]

Thanks.....

[forensicfan]

I swear I remember Dawn saying on NG a few days ago that the boys (she only mentioned one boy) that left at 1:30 AM to come back left all of his belongings in the room, clothes, liquor (the mom mentioned liquor) and didn't wait to collect the deposit. If true, then I think something definitely happened and one of these boys knows what it is and they hightailed it home. Maybe an accident and they panicked?

I also think the girls know what happened as they don't seem to be overly concerned. Could there have a been a fight over a boy that got out of control? These are teenagers we're talking about here, not adult thinkers. Drama is usually quite big with teens.

With liquor having been mentioned (by Dawn Drexel), IF true, could Britanee have been drunk and waded into the water? Strong currents can pull you under very easily. I almost drowned at Cocoa Beach when I was dragged under by a strong wave and I am a very good swimmer. Britanee appears to be very petite.

I just don't think she ran away. I hope I am wrong and that she is ok but something tells me that something bad happened and these kids know more than they are saying. With 15 of them, someone is bound to crack at some point so we will find out soon if that is the case.

[KittyMom]

There is no way BD made that trip with only 100 bucks. Even if she didn't contribute to gas or hotel room she still had to eat. Also, she'd have to pay something to get into clubs and then there's the alcohol. $100 doesn't go far in one day, much less 4. I think BD had money her mom didn't know about.

[playnice]

http://www.13wham.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=206378@video.wokr13.com&navCatId=5

at the end of this video they mention the cell phone tracking.

man, i've been following a little bit on the family's facebook site. have any of you been reading it? i never heard of this michael crooks before. he's got his own blog? i can't believe the stuff he's saying. then another person shows up on the facebook saying michael confessed to him/her that he killed Brittanee. wow! :ohmy:

That is just sick. They need moderators. I cant believe someone would do that stuff on a site of the family that is trying to get info about their missing daughter.:cursing:

[~jomomma~]

That is just sick. They need moderators. I cant believe someone would do that stuff on a site of the family that is trying to get info about their missing daughter.:cursing:

i know!! i can't believe police allow him to continue a blog like that. the family even posted that they are aware of him and that he does this with other news stories and issues. after googling him, i saw Hannity had him on a show after he was bashing our troops.

i won't post a link to his blog here because what he's saying about Brittanee is just disgusting. :thumbdown:

[forensicfan]

Drowning has been one of my thoughts all along, drinking and water are never a good mix. I pray we're wrong.

The girls posting pics from their trip with no mention of Britanee shows not only a lack of concern to me about their friend but also leaving her stuff behind and leaving without her shows a vindictiveness to me. Not your typical group of close friends but almost like they didn't care.

That's why I wonder if there was a fight on the beach between she and the girl she was arguing with. Something tells me it wasn't just about a pair of shorts. If alcohol was involved, high drama and a lot of anger, it could be that one of the girls knocked her in the head pretty hard and walked away assuming Britnee was fine and would follow shortly. Maybe disoriented and drunk, she waded into the water and drowned. Just a thought. But even so, that being somewhat accidental, I would think that at least one of them would be bothered enough to feel guilty about knowing about it. I really don't know what to think.

I just remember going to the ocean for the first time in my life and stupidly walking right into a wave assuming it would lift me up and carry me to shore as the ones at Lake Michigan do. Instead, it lifted me up and whirled me into a series of somersaults. I remember panicking and trying to get to the surface and when I finally did, I was much further from shore than I started. I was about 32 yrs old and maybe 170 lbs. This girl is only 105 lbs.

[playnice]

Her phone ping about 30 mi away around midnight. Would it carry her body that far? I agree about the girls. I cant believe they just left her behind a thousand mi from home with no way to get home.

[forensicfan]

Her phone ping about 30 mi away around midnight. Would it carry her body that far?

Probably not. Good point. I wasn't aware of that. I would think if it were in the water, it would have gone dead almost immediately.

You're right. Scrap that thought.

[playnice]

Probably not. Good point. I wasn't aware of that. I would think if it were in the water, it would have gone dead almost immediately.

You're right. Scrap that thought.

Yeah. I didnt even think about the phone would go dead as soon as it got wet.

[forensicfan]

So then, back to square one.

If her phone pinged 30 miles away long after she left the hotel, I wonder who else she met at that beach.

I still also wonder why her friends left her stuff and just simply came home without alerting police. I supposed maybe they didn't think it was a serious situation. Again, they are teenagers.

Do we know if there were any text messages sent from her phone after she left the hotel?

[playnice]

Well maybe there will be some news tomorrow. Guess Ill go to bed.

[forensicfan]

Yeah. I didnt even think about the phone would go dead as soon as it got wet.

It would have to be one hell of a phone. Unless someone drove down and dumped it (the phone).

I shudder to think that someone killed her and dumped her body with the phone 30 miles south.

IF it's true that the one boy did leave his stuff behind and came home, what did he use as luggage when he left to go to SC and was that (duffel bag, suitcase, etc) still in the room?

I know they are searching with canines. I am not sure if those are bloodhounds or cadaver dogs but I wonder if NY PD will also search the cars and use cadaver dogs when they do.

[forensicfan]

I don't know about the distance her body would go, but I do know how vindictive teenage girls can be. Can't believe that if that is the scenario one of them hasn't cracked yet..time will tell, I guess.

I know! I have a teenage daughter. They are SO MEAN! Especially when it's about a boy!

I think if they do know something, at least one of them will crack soon. I can't imagine they would all be able to outsmart LE and possible FBI if they are brought in.

[aproudmom]

Search for missing teen leads to Georgetown County
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294771

Tip leads to SC river search for missing NY teen
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10289170

ETA ~ I tried to post the above in the links thread, but it is locked. :shrug:

does anyone know were they cell towers are? usually they can ping off several and I pray the pings were her and not someone else dumping a phone..I think these days it is so easy to see what to do and what not to do if your trying to cover up something..jmo

[Ice Cycle]

Something I have never understood, do cell phones ping if they are turned off or if the battery is dead, anybody know?

[aproudmom]

Has the FBI or TES came in on her case yet? I'm really just so angered at what that fool was writing on his site about her. I can see why LE would search after reading what he wrote. Based on a tip, was the info on Cnn NG tonight, in regards to why they were searching this river. Based on a tip. What tip, was it this whacko's writings?

Who writes about a missing teenage girl with such hatred like that on a public site? Why would this guy do this? Sounds to me like he knows her, what say you all? Does anyone have the news on what the Tip was that lead them to the river besides this web blogger?

I do not think TES is there SLED is not sure about the FBI

as far as this one blogger he really creeps me out he did this morning and made me sick and I have contacted the all the papers about him and his blog page about this and I don't care if they keep allowing him to post on their media links he is on almost all of the media links posting on this child I will contact each and everyone of them and passed it on to the proper authorities also..so let him blog away..I know we have freedom of speech so I just used mine as he has and I would hope that no one post his link anymore..he has a sick twisted mind IMO..if he angers you do something about it ask the media links to MOD their comments some do and they still are allowing them to be posted:thumbdown:


Anyone with information should contact the Myrtle Beach Police Department at 918-1382 or 918-1952.
Contact TONYA ROOT at 444-1723.
http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/882333.html

[shelkobe]

Something I have never understood, do cell phones ping if they are turned off or if the battery is dead, anybody know?
I don't think so. I say that not from any expertise, but from when a couple of skiers were missing on a mountain. Their phones were registering pings and then they stopped, so it was reported that the phones went dead. I do not know if there is any up-to-the minute technology that might change this in some phones (ie. GPS.)

[aproudmom]

I don't think so. I say that not from any expertise, but from when a couple of skiers were missing on a mountain. Their phones were registering pings and then they stopped, so it was reported that the phones went dead. I do not know if there is any up-to-the minute technology that might change this in some phones (ie. GPS.)

if they are dead or shut off they do not ping of towers any longer from what I have understood anyway..

[aproudmom]

Well hope to hear she is found soon and safe it is a week since anyone has seen her which is very scary but I pray she is safe and returns to her family and real friends who love and care about her..

see ya all later hope to hear good news next time I come on here..:seeya:

[doctor_J]

I think everyone needs to ignore this guy, and the facebook page administrators need to put everyone on notice that linking to his stuff, or talking about him, or posting his vitriol, will be deleted.

Enough attention for this guy. What a total twit, and he's able to capture the attention of the entire forum. They should get back to support and sleuthing ideas.


Bingo! again RR.

[Pag Boi]

I looked it up - Kryptonite is a significant distance past her hotel, a couple miles at least, and on a highway. I don't think she could have walked there.

The two hotels are separated by about 1/2 mile - and it seems that she walked there to the guy's hotel by herself. I'm not sure why there would be a problem walking the half-mile back. Both are right there on Ocean Blvd, which has hotel after hotel after hotel in a row.



Club Kryptonite used to be Planet Hollywood. It would have taken her an hour, sober, to walk there from the beach. Was her hotel on the beach? If it was a few blocks off the beach boardwalk, it would increase her chances of encountering foul play/stranger dangers, JMOO.
Ex: on a Saturday night, the Boulevard would be bumper to bumper. Cruisin' & catcalling. She stopped to flirt back, get a lift,

[Pag Boi]

Uh-oh-----well that puts a new spin on it then, possibly. I mean who checks out in the middle of the night and then doesn't wait around for the room deposit back? Unless the room was trashed and they knew better that they wouldn't get it back. I guess that could be motivation for checking out EARLY.


To be fair, that allegation has not been confirmed by LE or the media. A PI told this to BD's mom. IIRC, even the mom said she wasn't sure.

It was a 16hr drive. That would have put them home @ dinner time Sun. evening. If a young girl wasn't missing, there wouldn't be a 2nd thought abt their travel plans. Or their security deposit.

I trust LE to invetigate them thoroughly. There are just so many possibilities JMOO

[Pag Boi]

Uh huh....especially if the room was in his name. I heard there were 15 in one room. Yikes! I can't imagine what condition they left that room.:unsure:


BD's group was at Bar Harbor w/ 15 in one room.

Peter was with 4 friends at the Blue Water


The car the guys rode back in has been released. BD had gone to his room to get her flip flops.


According to his lawyer, Peter Brozowitz is helping Myrtle Beach Police with their investigation.







"Police are trying to piece together Brittanee Drexel's last few moments she was seen. In a surveillance picture of her leaving Bar Harbor Hotel she has something in her right hand. "As soon as Peter saw it he said those are red flip flops," said Parrinello. Brittanee actually came to Peter's hotel room to pick up the flip flops. "That was some of the text messages I left my flip flops there I got to get them so she showed up around 7:55," said Parrinello.




John Parrinello says Peter was with four friends from the time Brittanee left the hotel until his trip home to Rochester. "I hate to say it but that's an iron clad alibi in terms of her going missing and him having anything to do with it not that he needs an alibi."According to Parrinello, Monroe County Sheriff investigators have searched the car Peter and his friends rode back to Rochester in. They didn't find anything suspicious and have since released the car to the owner. On Saturday, it will be one week since Brittanee disappeared."



http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=88642

[Pag Boi]

Bumped my post #55.
If the article noted in the above link was quoted properly by the news reporter, " leaving Williamsburg County heading toward the coast ", you will see this MUST be the last cell phone ping area they were able to obtain.
LOOK at my map. Williamsburg IS inland and you would have to go East toward the coast in order to 'leave' the county. Not good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/BRITTANEEWiliamsburgCtytocoast.jpg



Williamsburg would be south of Myrtle Beach. The Rochester guys from the Blue Water would have been traveling north up I-95 to go home. They would have to have gone wayyy out their way to toss her phone in Williamsburg Co.

[Maelstrom5]

Maelstrom5 i dont know what the heck is going on any more. There is such a prey on women and children.
People have just gone total crazy. It just seems like its spinning out of control and there doesnt seem to be any way to stop it.:sad:

Hi,

I woke up very early, 4am + east coast. Cases like Brittanee’s rarely cause me to lose sleep; while every case should, after hundreds, maybe thousands, I have learned that a case can be solved in a few minutes if remains are found with a definite signature… Or the end to the puzzle may take months, sometime years.

Yesterday I wrote about a 17 year old girl by the name of Ann. I said I loved her in secret, and never had the nerve to tell her how I felt, which was true
.
I loved her in a way that only an 18 year old can, a combination of lust, respect, adoration, and fear.

In 1972, 5 years after we graduated from NMHS, Ann and I were a country apart. I was on the west coast with my brother and friends, climbing mountains, exploring caves, living out for real, one childhood dream.

Ann was back east. She had just graduated for a local University; and had just gotten her teaching degree from CCSU, but she would never get to teach.

One day Ann went missing. She was recovered a week later, hanging from a tree deep in the woods on her parent’s farm. No foul play was evolved; the girl I had loved in secret in HS committed suicide.

She had become trapped in a world of drugs, and knew she was never going to teach kids like she hoped she would. She took a rope, hung it from an oak, and ended her life. On the other side of the country I was also using a rope, to help me reach my dreams and get me to the summit of a number of mountains.

When I came home I found out what happened.

I could not save Ann, but at her gravesite, I told her I would try to make a difference. I ran for public office and my message was one of change , one of calling a spade a spade, one of hope. It involved a youth center; domestic violence/rape/suicide hotline.

I won, by only 5 votes, but I won. The system I fought for and created still exist today over 3 decades later.

[MoonFlwr]

Hi,

I woke up very early, 4am + east coast. Cases like Brittanee’s rarely cause me to lose sleep; while every case should, after hundreds, maybe thousands, I have learned that a case can be solved in a few minutes if remains are found with a definite signature… Or the end to the puzzle may take months, sometime years.

Yesterday I wrote about a 17 year old girl by the name of Ann. I said I loved her in secret, and never had the nerve to tell her how I felt, which was true
.
I loved her in a way that only an 18 year old can, a combination of lust, respect, adoration, and fear.



repectfully snipped for space.

Wow. That was quite a story to share, Maelstrom!

I am glad you were able to contribute the way you'd hoped! What an achievement!

[~jomomma~]

looks like the search will continue at 10:00 today

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/883670.html


Officers from the Myrtle Beach Police Department, Georgetown County Sheriff's Office, Charleston County Sheriff's Office, State Law Enforcement Division and North Charleston Police Department were at the river until late Friday.

Also searching were representatives from Community United Effort, a North Carolina-based organization that searches for missing people, and North Carolina Canine Emergency Response Team, a group of retired police officers who assist with searches.

Some searchers used boats with side-scan sonar equipment to check the river for the girl, Capp said.

Monica Caison from CUE used dogs to search a forest nearby. Authorities expect more people to participate in the search when it resumes at 10 a.m. today

[~jomomma~]

omg shame on you jo..I would not waste my time on that what ever you want to call him I will not put his url or his name on here it makes me sick..:thumbdown:

i know....i know :blushing:

[Pag Boi]

This is so morbid but here goes.

Didn't Horry Co wildfires start on the 23rd or 24th? Can canines track any scent over such a powerful smell? TIA

[aproudmom]

Williamsburg would be south of Myrtle Beach. The Rochester guys from the Blue Water would have been traveling north up I-95 to go home. They would have to have gone wayyy out their way to toss her phone in Williamsburg Co.

I just wonder why all the change in stories I don't think this boy did anything to her but I will not rule out anyone or anything until she is found..alive or dead...what I do not understand is why is he the only one out of the 3 guys seems very odd..and I know he said through his lawyer he is working with LE that is a very common statement from a lawyer in any case I say give them all poly's including the 15 she went there with..if they have nothing to hide then why not...if they want to make sure all the focus is put on her and not them...we do know something happened and were there cameras at every door in those hotels? that would be my next question..all jmo

[~jomomma~]

This is so morbid but here goes.

Didn't Horry Co wildfires start on the 23rd or 24th? Can canines track any scent over such a powerful smell? TIA

i think they started wednesday the 22nd....not positive

i don't know about the dogs. i think the fire was starting to get under control by saturday night but there was still alot of smoke.

[aproudmom]

well glad to hear he is giving DNA what about the others is my question why has he been the one pointed out all along..makes no since to me..and sorry 4 others teens are not to good of Alibis his lawyer should have thought about that statement IMO...I heard she met them at a bar Friday at the beach on Saturday and then went to their room Saturday night..so when did the flip flops get there and was it flip flops not shorts that the girl wanted back??I am a little confused by that one..and I assume the camera picked up all the boys leaving at 2am right? since they have her coming and going. unless they did not use that door I have never seen a hotel with one door alot you have to use your swipe card after a certain time..but alot prop the doors open if they are close to the pool or beach..I know cause I have done it..lol..and did not want to worry about losing my key card

http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=88642

[Pag Boi]

I just wonder why all the change in stories I don't think this boy did anything to her but I will not rule out anyone or anything until she is found..alive or dead...what I do not understand is why is he the only one out of the 3 guys seems very odd..and I know he said through his lawyer he is working with LE that is a very common statement from a lawyer in any case I say give them all poly's including the 15 she went there with..if they have nothing to hide then why not...if they want to make sure all the focus is put on her and not them...we do know something happened and were there cameras at every door in those hotels? that would be my next question..all jmo


I read early on that LE was searching for any/all videos in the area that might have seen her. That could be a huge task w/the various technologies, business operations, etc.

I am not clearing or accusing any of the Rochester boys. On the surface, there actions aren't nefarious. In light of a missing teenage girl, it puts their actions in a different light.

Not sure if have you ever been to MB, but one of my first observations upon visting the grand strand was "what a great place for slim shadys to hide." I can imagine those boys doing something, getting lost, tossing phone, going home. I can imagine BD running away. I can see her getting nabbed stumbling from one place to the next. Just of few of the land options.


We haven't been told who the "other friend" /location she allegedly texted ti black shorts owner she was going to visit. I so hope this has a happy ending. But I fear the worst :(

[aproudmom]

i think they started wednesday the 22nd....not positive

i don't know about the dogs. i think the fire was starting to get under control by saturday night but there was still alot of smoke.

I heard about fires somewhere but did not know where it was..some of those dogs can pick the sent up in water would hope they could with smoke but never know if it was real bad...never even thought about it..

[Pag Boi]

Investigators seem to be REALLY focused on the two river area. Besides cell phone pings, I wonder what "tips" they've received?

Bag Boi - I don't think she texted the black shorts owner that she was going to visit another friend. I believe that was her boyfriend, back in Rochester, who got that text. The girls in her hotel room got a call/text that she was headed back to their hotel at 8:45 p.m., and that's the last communication she had with them. I'm really interested too, in the 9:15 text. It seems doubtful she would have said "I'm going to visit another friend in a different hotel" as it's been paraphrased. She would have named names.


I can only say what I read. I would hope her mom has a better grasp of what her daughter might actually do. I hope her mom has more info than what she claims. All totally JMOO Here is my reference:


I last talked to her Saturday around two o’clock. Her boyfriend spoke to her around eight o’clock,“ Drexel said.

“She sent a text message to one of her friends around 9:15 p.m. and said she was going to see another friend who was staying at another hotel. She never came back,“ Drexel said. “It’s been almost 48 hours, and I’m really worried. We need everyone to be looking out for her.“


http://www.scnow.com/scp/news/local/grand_strand/article/search_for_missing_ny_teen_continues/46665/

[playnice]

I wonder if she was seen on video somewhere else after she left the boys? Last night on NG her mom asked "Which video?" when NG asked her about the video.
NG did nail her on it and she brushed it off as everyone was looking at their video. I wonder if it was a slip by the mother and she isnt supposed to talk about it yet?

[Ice Cycle]

I wonder if she was seen on video somewhere else after she left the boys? Last night on NG her mom asked "Which video?" when NG asked her about the video.
NG did nail her on it and she brushed it off as everyone was looking at their video. I wonder if it was a slip by the mother and she isnt supposed to talk about it yet?


Yes I noticed her actions also but sometimes I wonder how well they here her questions as at times it appears they can't here her well. But she could of been just holding back on what she knows.
I am wondering about the 2 stories about the texts. I thought the last text was to the BF, are they now saying that was before the text to the girls?

[playnice]

Yes I noticed her actions also but sometimes I wonder how well they here her questions as at times it appears they can't here her well. But she could of been just holding back on what she knows.
I am wondering about the 2 stories about the texts. I thought the last text was to the BF, are they now saying that was before the text to the girls?

Im really confused on the text too. I know its been reported 2 ways and wondering if there was more texting after she left that hotel or if the BF was the last text and someone got it wrong. I think the question is was the text that she was going to another hotel to vist friend actually when she texted about the boys or was she going to yet another group of people at a different hotel after she left the boys? It is unclear.

[playnice]

Has anyone heard about any rewards set up? Seems like the local businesses would all go together and chip in on a reward fund.

[Ice Cycle]

Has anyone heard about any rewards set up? Seems like the local businesses would all go together and chip in on a reward fund.

You would think some in her hometown would be though I doubt at this point any amount is going to make a difference, as much as I'd rather not think that way.

[Pag Boi]

Bag Boi - here's the article where the girl with the shorts argument actually states the last time she heard from Brittannee was at 8:45, in a text.

She spoke to the Marine at 8, although he isn't her boyfriend.

It's unclear who she texted at 9:15, but it wasn't the girls in her hotel room.

I think this mom is SO tired she really can't get the details clear.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090429/NEWS01/904290342/1002/NEWS

I can accept either time. Just curious who BD told/texted abt another hotel/friend?

Do you find it odd that the boyfriend in Rochester called BD's mom Sat night to say she wsa missing. But a marine in Camp LeJuene called LE to report her missing? The 14 girls then moved to another hotel?

It could all be factual. Biut since a teenager is missing, it sounds just as odd to me as the Rochestor guys booking at 1am. JMOO

[FindtheLost]

JMO - when I first saw the mother being interviewed something seemed off. I couldn't quite figure it out but the more I see her and think about it I think she was getting a lot of the "how could you as a mother not know where your child was" and she was very defensive and continually made half statements and kept throwing blame on others especially the last person to see B. I know locally and even on the internet lots of comments were made about her not knowing where her child was.

I remember early on her saying B was probably dead. (This was said on a local news cast WMBF) It just seemed strange to me because in all the missing child cases I've heard of the parent continues to believe the child is alive even when others have given up. It just seemed to early to me for her to make that statement.

Again, this is just my opinion but it helps me understand the mother a little. I think she is feeling extreme guilt and I feel really bad for her.

[playnice]

I can accept either time. Just curious who BD told/texted abt another hotel/friend?

Do you find it odd that the boyfriend in Rochester called BD's mom Sat night to say she wsa missing. But a marine in Camp LeJuene called LE to report her missing? The 14 girls then moved to another hotel?

It could all be factual. Biut since a teenager is missing, it sounds just as odd to me as the Rochestor guys booking at 1am. JMOO

The marine was a family friend and since he is closeby I dont think its odd that the family called and asked him to go there. Her BF probably didnt know what to do.
About the girls. I find everything they did odd. Who takes off and leaves a friend stranded 1000 mi from home not knowing if she would show back up and have no money and no way home.

[FindtheLost]

Has anyone heard about any rewards set up? Seems like the local businesses would all go together and chip in on a reward fund.

Locally (Myrtle Beach area) no rewards have been mentioned as of yet.

[justathought]

Did Brittanee actually text the marine, John Hahn at 8PM on Saturday? Did he know that she was in Myrtle Beach before Brittanee's boyfriend contacted him?

[Pag Boi]

The marine was a family friend and since he is closeby I dont think its odd that the family called and asked him to go there. Her BF probably didnt know what to do.
About the girls. I find everything they did odd. Who takes off and leaves a friend stranded 1000 mi from home not knowing if she would show back up and have no money and no way home.


Camp LeJeune is @ 90-120 minutes away. The girls were on the scene

The BF called the mom SAT NITE to tell her that dd was missing in another state. She is alarmed. But the marine friend called LE sometime Sunday. How did this marine report an unrelated minor to LE and get an immediate reaction?

I remain slightly baffled how parties 16 hours away can be notified soo far ahead of time.

I thought the girls all stayed an extra night (sunday) at a new hotel? Or did they leave on Sunday?

[FindtheLost]

This latest update says :

No phone calls. No text messages. No contact. That's what those closest to the teen from New York say happened after 8 p.m. last Saturday while Drexel was vacationing in Myrtle Beach for Spring Break.


http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=10287623

What about the 9:15 text message? Did it reach anyone? Who was it sent to?

[playnice]

This latest update says :

No phone calls. No text messages. No contact. That's what those closest to the teen from New York say happened after 8 p.m. last Saturday while Drexel was vacationing in Myrtle Beach for Spring Break.


http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=10287623

What about the 9:15 text message? Did it reach anyone? Who was it sent to?

Im wondering if that just got reported wrong and never happened.

[Ice Cycle]

Most of the facts of the case seem sketchy and probably due to the Media as LE has not stated much on this case. Surly LE has the facts straight or they would be considering them or one of them a POI.
I also found the Mother's actions to be odd, a little to matter of factual for the situation. Of course I believe that could be to denial and guilt (not that I think it is justified). I would imagine she was torn between going there to get her and not wanting to ruin a happy time with friends. I am also certain the divorce probably heighten that as going through a divorce when children are that age after being with both parents their entire life does make it harder to correct children as you normally would do to guilt, though possible.
Another thing is you can be sure though their was more to her Mom's conversation to B when she found out and talked to her, other than I love you, at least the 1st time. So if this girl knew she was going to hear it and be grounded when she got home, the girls were treating her badly, the boys in the hotel room showed her no interest and possible differences with the BF and already having depression issues, all that might of pushed her to go with someone she normally would not of for fun or happiness. Though I still think the girls and boys know more that what has be reported. Just MO.

[playnice]

New article. Cell phone signal from last Sunday, the last signal from Brittannee's phone, is what has led searchers to the river area. The phone was not in use at the time of the signal.

Search dogs and teams of searchers are on sight today.

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/breaking_news/story/884102.html

I know I read an article that the ping was about 30 mi away and around midnight but I cant find it now.:sad:
So if she was last seen leaving the hotel around 8:45pm until around midnight, that is a 3 hour timeframe that needs to be filled in. regardless of the time, if she hooked up with someone I can not think of any good reason her phone would ping from there that would have a happy ending.

[playnice]

No more news coming out so I guess they havent found anything today.

[~jomomma~]

just checking in.....been out doing yard work

thinking about Brittanee the whole time. i was hoping we'd have some good news today. :sad:

[playnice]

I reiterate......


We know Britnee Drexel was a runaway. She ran away to go to Myrtle Beach.

Are we absolutely certain she had intended to return home?

No but I fear her phone pinging 30 mi away and by the river is not a good sign.
Still couldnt help but hope that she would just show back up at home this weekend.

[aproudmom]

I know I read an article that the ping was about 30 mi away and around midnight but I cant find it now.:sad:
So if she was last seen leaving the hotel around 8:45pm until around midnight, that is a 3 hour timeframe that needs to be filled in. regardless of the time, if she hooked up with someone I can not think of any good reason her phone would ping from there that would have a happy ending.

OMG so sad to see them searching that river...wonder if they used sonar did not see it in this media link..TES uses them when searching bodies of water..this is the last ping off her phone from last saturday from what I understand so they have not found her phone sure it is off or dead by now..this is not looking so well I hate to say..just because her phone pinged does not mean she had it or has not met with foul play or has not runaway it is so hard to figrure all this out at this time we just do not know.. IMO...:crying:

After a fruitless effort Saturday, many of the groups searching for a missing New York teenager say they will not return Sunday to the riverside area where her cell phone last gave off a signal.

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/breaking_news/story/884102.html

[aproudmom]

I reiterate......


We know Britnee Drexel was a runaway. She ran away to go to Myrtle Beach.

Are we absolutely certain she had intended to return home?

No I don't think anyone can say that it is being said because she was reported as being depressed I for one am not so sure she did runaway or did not go home with the others because she wanted to stay in MB. guess just call it my gut feeling..hope I am wrong..

[baywench]

I have found this mother's reactions very strange. Please no rotten fruit.....I don't think she had anything to do with it. I raised three daughters and the teenage years are a nightmare. You have to be one step ahead of them and trust but VERIFY. I don't believe if one of mine asked to go somewhere and I said no that I would believe they were in the area when they didn't come home. Just doesn't make sense. And I know because I have had to do it I would have driven down there and brought her little butt home. The conversations don't feel real to me. Like some have said maybe she is feeling guilty but I sure hope she's not changing the facts. That won't help anything. jmo

[aproudmom]

Most of the facts of the case seem sketchy and probably due to the Media as LE has not stated much on this case. Surly LE has the facts straight or they would be considering them or one of them a POI.
I also found the Mother's actions to be odd, a little to matter of factual for the situation. Of course I believe that could be to denial and guilt (not that I think it is justified). I would imagine she was torn between going there to get her and not wanting to ruin a happy time with friends. I am also certain the divorce probably heighten that as going through a divorce when children are that age after being with both parents their entire life does make it harder to correct children as you normally would do to guilt, though possible.
Another thing is you can be sure though their was more to her Mom's conversation to B when she found out and talked to her, other than I love you, at least the 1st time. So if this girl knew she was going to hear it and be grounded when she got home, the girls were treating her badly, the boys in the hotel room showed her no interest and possible differences with the BF and already having depression issues, all that might of pushed her to go with someone she normally would not of for fun or happiness. Though I still think the girls and boys know more that what has be reported. Just MO.

Ice I also think there is more just not being talked about..or perhaps afraid of getting in trouble for taking a minor over state lines they could have been worried just never know I don't know how 20 some kids could keep the same story if they have talked to everyone that went there..JMO

[aproudmom]

I have found this mother's reactions very strange. Please no rotten fruit.....I don't think she had anything to do with it. I raised three daughters and the teenage years are a nightmare. You have to be one step ahead of them and trust but VERIFY. I don't believe if one of mine asked to go somewhere and I said no that I would believe they were in the area when they didn't come home. Just doesn't make sense. And I know because I have had to do it I would have driven down there and brought her little butt home. The conversations don't feel real to me. Like some have said maybe she is feeling guilty but I sure hope she's not changing the facts. That won't help anything. jmo

OK she sent the family friend is this her moms b/f anyone know anyway she sent him when she got the call BD could not be found so if she knew she should have sent him to go and see if she was there not so sure they would have found her but if my kids did that you better believe if I found out I would be there to get them ASAP...not going to bash on mom sure she is doing that to herself..just pray her daughter is OK...and I sure feel sorry for anyone that has girls these days I would not allow them out of my sight,..lol..

[aproudmom]

Did Brittanee actually text the marine, John Hahn at 8PM on Saturday? Did he know that she was in Myrtle Beach before Brittanee's boyfriend contacted him?

Not until her mother called him from what is being reported he filed the missing persons report at around 5am..he got the call around 2 something IIRC.I know her moms myspace has her and a soldier guy just don't know if it is someone he knows or what..just says G/F to a soldier or something like that

[aproudmom]

Who would post the link to it elsewhere so more can read it.
Any future reference to him post and poster will be deleted.

thank you CW glad to see a MOD stepping in and not allowing this person to be mentioned on this site..kudos to you:thumbup:

[aproudmom]

Has anyone heard about any rewards set up? Seems like the local businesses would all go together and chip in on a reward fund.

I have heard of no reward at all..unless I have missed it

[FindtheLost]

OMG so sad to see them searching that river...wonder if they used sonar did not see it in this media link..TES uses them when searching bodies of water..this is the last ping off her phone from last saturday from what I understand so they have not found her phone sure it is off or dead by now..this is not looking so well I hate to say..just because her phone pinged does not mean she had it or has not met with foul play or has not runaway it is so hard to figrure all this out at this time we just do not know.. IMO...:crying:

After a fruitless effort Saturday, many of the groups searching for a missing New York teenager say they will not return Sunday to the riverside area where her cell phone last gave off a signal.

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/breaking_news/story/884102.html


According to this report sonar systems were used.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623

[playnice]

Wouldnt there be cameras along that strip between the hotels? Maybe there would be something showing how far she made it before she disappeared and maybe who took her or she may have gotten in a car with..

[justathought]

This article states - John Hahn last made contact with the 17-year-old last Saturday around 8 p.m. Did he have something to do with her disappearance? I know he reported her missing but, why was he in contact with her BEFORE she was reported missing?
Does this make sense to anyone -

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WMBF) - The search continues for the missing teen from New York, last seen in Myrtle Beach.

Nearly a week after her mysterious disappearance, the Myrtle Beach Police Department is expanding their search for Drexel to Georgetown County, where they say a cell phone tower in the area picked up signals from the girl's phone.

Saturday 12 K-9 teams and nearly 50 searchers combed the area near Pole Yard Landing. Boats equipped with sonar systems floated up and down the river Friday afternoon, as well. Investigators say they came up empty handed on a first and second attempt, but note that it won't stop them from solving this case.

A family friend, John Hahn, says he last made contact with the 17-year-old last Saturday around 8 p.m., and after losing contact with her, Drexel's mother sent him to Myrtle Beach to help find her.

Police say that's around the same time a group of men from near her hometown in New York last saw the missing teen, as well. Myrtle Beach Police say they are satisfied after questioning Pete Brozwick, Phillip Watson, Matthew Abrams and Keith Cummings.

Questioning revealed Drexel made additional contact with the group of men at an area of beach near the Bluewater Resort around 11 a.m. Saturday. Police confirmed with surveillance video that Drexel met the group a second time in their hotel room later that night.

Dawn Drexel, Brittanee's mother, says she's hesitant to point fingers this early in the investigation, but believes Brozwick may know something investigators don't.

"To me, I think he knows something," she commented. "Something's just not right."

But the real question those closest to the teen want answered: Is she alive?

As hours turn into days since her disappearance, Drexel's mother says she fears the worst. She says her daughter not only suffered from depression, but was not taking a family divorce too lightly.

Drexel, according to her mother, took off to Myrtle Beach for Spring Break with a group of friends without permission, and now, is still nowhere to be found.

"When I told my daughter that she couldn't go on vacation, you can't lock [her] up in [her room," Dawn Drexel told WMBF News. "Either she made a bad decision or something happened out of her control."

Myrtle Beach police say while it's normal for someone to go missing in Myrtle Beach, it's not common they go missing for this long.

"Either someone took my daughter, or we don't know if she's alive," she believed.

Drexel is described by the Myrtle Beach Police Department as 5 feet tall and 103 pounds. She is said to have shoulder-length straight brown hair and blue eyes.

Drexel was last seen leaving the Bluewater Resort wearing a multi-colored shirt, black shorts and flip flops.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Drexel is asked to contact the Myrtle Beach Police Department or 911 immediately.

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[StickyBeak]

I have heard of no reward at all..unless I have missed it

Hate to say this, but... An Amber alert is for a definite abduction or missing child presumed abducted. Brittanee "chose" to deliberately disobey her Mothers orders and hitch a ride to MB. I am sure local LE are all too familar with "runaways". Unfortunately, I can't see why the locals of Myrtle Beach would concern themselves with sponsoring a Reward, Mom if that is what you mean. It seems the people of BD's hometown are sponsoring donations and last I read a car wash to help with the familys necessities while they are searching.
This is a horrendous situation for the family who are already facing such dire straits. Brittanee's choice may have cost her life. I pray she is alive, but have doubt. Sending Thanks to those in MB and surrounding areas who are spending countless hours in search for this girl, May God bless their hearts.

[playnice]

I had some hope but the location of that last cell ping sure makes the situation look grave. :sad:

[StickyBeak]

I had some hope but the location of that last cell ping sure makes the situation look grave. :sad:

Me too Playnice. IIRC the person who invited BD down to MB has previously lived in that area. I still am thinking that girl JO? hooked up with her old buds and introduced Brittanee at that bar or club Kryptonite. Anyone heard from the Pink poster? She seemed to know a lot of info.

[playnice]

Me too Playnice. IIRC the person who invited BD down to MB has previously lived in that area. I still am thinking that girl JO? hooked up with her old buds and introduced Brittanee at that bar or club Kryptonite. Anyone heard from the Pink poster? She seemed to know a lot of info.

I just checked and she hasnt been on since Thursday. I hope she comes back. Maybe she may hear something around town that will get our hopes lifted.

[aproudmom]

According to this report sonar systems were used.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623

super thanks alot I was hoping they did..thanks a bunch for the link

[aproudmom]

I just checked and she hasnt been on since Thursday. I hope she comes back. Maybe she may hear something around town that will get our hopes lifted.

I think someone scared her off..lol..no not really..CW just put out the warning about posting names so maybe she misunderstood not sure..CW just meant anyone not mentioned in this case...hope she did not leave us..

[aproudmom]

Me too Playnice. IIRC the person who invited BD down to MB has previously lived in that area. I still am thinking that girl JO? hooked up with her old buds and introduced Brittanee at that bar or club Kryptonite. Anyone heard from the Pink poster? She seemed to know a lot of info.

I am not sure who invited her down there but she was at the club on Friday night then met the guys on the beach at 11am in Saturday and then again in the room that night..pink said the person you are talking about is in the service and was not there with them but JO lived with the girl for a short time..she is not based in SC just close to it and was busy that week with training...

[Pag Boi]

Me too Playnice. IIRC the person who invited BD down to MB has previously lived in that area. I still am thinking that girl JO? hooked up with her old buds and introduced Brittanee at that bar or club Kryptonite. Anyone heard from the Pink poster? She seemed to know a lot of info.

MB is pretty much a free for all. You can find it all. The grand strand area, where they were staying, is a fascinating study in human interaction, if you're into peep-watching. But the flip side is that peeps are watching you too.

There is a paved walkway on the beachfront and Ocean Blvd runs parallel to it. The strip is literally bumper to bumper memorial day to labor day. You will find every element of people btwn. Some blocks are much more upscale tham others.

To get to any block of Ocean Blvd. you have to turn off Hwy 17business. Any block in btwm you can get waves from a biz or car. Boys cruising for cute chicks. Sun & fun.

Club Kryptonite is on Hwy 17 Bypass. One could take 17-by down to the area where the cell phone pinged. From hotel to club and/or cell ping area is not really an option JMOO

Anything could have happened. There by the grace of God, go I and hell of a lot of my friends. YKWIM?

Myrtle Beach police say while it's normal for someone to go missing in Myrtle Beach, it's not common they go missing for this long.

[FindtheLost]

This article states - John Hahn last made contact with the 17-year-old last Saturday around 8 p.m. Did he have something to do with her disappearance? I know he reported her missing but, why was he in contact with her BEFORE she was reported missing?
Does this make sense to anyone -



I have wondered the same thing. What I gathered early on was that she spoke with her boyfriend whose name was also John so in the beginning the two John's were being mixed up.

I think I may e-mail the local reporter and see if he can clear this up.

[justathought]

Sorry about my last post being so long - I am new at this! Does anyone know if John Hahn, the marine actually spoke to or received a text message from Brittanee?

[aproudmom]

MB is pretty much a free for all. You can find it all. The grand strand area, where they were staying, is a fascinating study in human interaction, if you're into peep-watching. But the flip side is that peeps are watching you too.

There is a paved walkway on the beachfront and Ocean Blvd runs parallel to it. The strip is literally bumper to bumper memorial day to labor day. You will find every element of people btwn. Some blocks are much more upscale tham others.

To get to any block of Ocean Blvd. you have to turn off Hwy 17business. Any block in btwm you can get waves from a biz or car. Boys cruising for cute chicks. Sun & fun.

Club Kryptonite is on Hwy 17 Bypass. One could take 17-by down to the area where the cell phone pinged. From hotel to club and/or cell ping area is not really an option JMOO

Anything could have happened. There by the grace of God, go I and hell of a lot of my friends. YKWIM?

Myrtle Beach police say while it's normal for someone to go missing in Myrtle Beach, it's not common they go missing for this long.

Sounds pretty much like Daytona Beach during Spring Break and Bike Week...I have not been to MB since 89/90 and everything was boarded up from a hurricane that had came through a few months prior I think..so did not really see to much when I was there but we drove from Fort Brag NC and it took around 2 hours..

[Pag Boi]

I have wondered the same thing. What I gathered early on was that she spoke with her boyfriend whose name was also John so in the beginning the two John's were being mixed up.

I think I may e-mail the local reporter and see if he can clear this up.

She seems to have texting them both. And prolly lots of others. It's a teen thing, maybe? IIRC, both John Hahn and John Boyfriend have been quoted. JMOO

[aproudmom]

Sorry about my last post being so long - I am new at this! Does anyone know if John Hahn, the marine actually spoke to or received a text message from Brittanee?

I do not know for sure so many things have been said it is so confusing all I know is he drove there after he was called by her mother not sure if he lived on the base if so they would more than likely know what time he left..or I know they are getting real stricked at fort Knox about who comes and goes on the base...I am not sure if he said it if so it should be on NG transcripts if she ask him when she had him on there

[Pag Boi]

Sounds pretty much like Daytona Beach during Spring Break and Bike Week...I have not been to MB since 89/90 and everything was boarded up from a hurricane that had came through a few months prior I think..so did not really see to much when I was there but we drove from Fort Brag NC and it took around 2 hours..

Xactly. The redneck rivieras :tonguewag:

[StickyBeak]

I am not sure who invited her down there but she was at the club on Friday night then met the guys on the beach at 11am in Saturday and then again in the room that night..pink said the person you are talking about is in the service and was not there with them but JO lived with the girl for a short time..she is not based in SC just close to it and was busy that week with training...

Hello aproudmom, I must have this mixed up. The girl in the facebook who supposedly took BD to MB, 20 yr. old, according to Pink she used to live in MB but moved back to Chili NY. She had all kinds of old friends
down toward georgetown, where BD's cell last pinged. I thought I read that last week. I was confused about the Camp L guy, I thought Brittanee had known him BF/GF for 2 years. Sorry if I confused you.
I confused myself. No word yet. I really thought today might be the day if she had run. 10 day vacation, maybe Mom would know what she missed and all that. Hope there is still a chance.

[Pag Boi]

A family friend, John Hahn, says he last made contact with the 17-year-old last Saturday around 8 p.m., and after losing contact with her, Drexel's mother sent him to Myrtle Beach to help find her

http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623


She sent a text message to one of her friends around 9:15 p.m. and said she was going to see another friend who was staying at another hotel. She never came back,“ Drexel said. “It’s been almost 48 hours, and I’m really worried. We need everyone to be looking out for her.“

John Hahn a friend of Drexel’s family and a Marine stationed at Camp LeJeune, NC, contacted police on the family’s behalf to report her missing. Hanh drove down to Myrtle Beach to help Dawn Drexel and her parents look for the missing teen.

http://www.scnow.com/scp/news/local/grand_strand/article/search_for_missing_ny_teen_continues/46665/

BRB with John Boyfriend's

[StickyBeak]

MB is pretty much a free for all. You can find it all. The grand strand area, where they were staying, is a fascinating study in human interaction, if you're into peep-watching. But the flip side is that peeps are watching you too.

There is a paved walkway on the beachfront and Ocean Blvd runs parallel to it. The strip is literally bumper to bumper memorial day to labor day. You will find every element of people btwn. Some blocks are much more upscale tham others.

To get to any block of Ocean Blvd. you have to turn off Hwy 17business. Any block in btwm you can get waves from a biz or car. Boys cruising for cute chicks. Sun & fun.

Club Kryptonite is on Hwy 17 Bypass. One could take 17-by down to the area where the cell phone pinged. From hotel to club and/or cell ping area is not really an option JMOO

Anything could have happened. There by the grace of God, go I and hell of a lot of my friends. YKWIM?

Myrtle Beach police say while it's normal for someone to go missing in Myrtle Beach, it's not common they go missing for this long.

I personally have never been there, but heard alot about Bullfeathers and other establishments around Murrells Inlet. My Sis knew the owners and things were rather on the wild side, anything goes to say the least. As you say Das Gracia

[KittyMom]

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S911325.shtml?cat=566

For the second day, crews are searching a river and highway 30 miles south of Myrtle Beach. Police say a cell phone signal led them to that spot. Police say Drexel's phone was not in use when it gave off its last signal on Sunday. Helicopters, search dogs and a crew of about 50 people scoured the area.



This sure doesn't sound good at all. :sad:

If she's in the water it might take awhile for her body to be found.

[aproudmom]

http://www.rnews.com/mediaplayer/players/wmplayerlite.aspx?sid=71872

According to Georgetown County Sheriff Lane Cribb, a cell phone signal led authorities to that location. Authorities say Drexel's cell phone was not in use when it gave off its last signal Sunday.
Drexel went missing this past weekend after a trip to Myrtle Beach for Spring Break. Her mother and friends continue to search for her.


Images were captured from a surveillance camera inside the Blue Water Resort. Police believe the photos show Drexel leaving the resort between 8:40 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. Saturday.

[KittyMom]

http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294916

Investigators said earlier in the week that a cell phone signal from Drexel's phone was traced to a cell tower in the North Santee River area.

Crews used about a dozen search dogs, several ATVs and a boat to search along the river and Highway 17 and in areas surrounding Pole Yard Landing.


map showing the Pole Yard Landing. Looks pretty remote.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Santee%20River%20%22Pole%20Yard%20Landing%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

[StickyBeak]

http://www.wmbfnews.com/global/story.asp?s=10287623




http://www.scnow.com/scp/news/local/grand_strand/article/search_for_missing_ny_teen_continues/46665/

BRB with John Boyfriend's

Well he had 1 hr and 15 min. to make it from camp L to MB. ?

[playnice]

GRACE: Straight out to John Hahn, a friend of the missing girl. He reported her missing.

Mr. Hahn, thank you for being with us. I understand that you`re in the military near there at Camp Lejeune, you got a call in the middle of the night from her family. You took care of reporting her missing. What can you tell me about the last person to have seen her alive, changing his story. Is that true?

(ON THE PHONE)

JOHN HAHN, FRIEND OF 17-YEAR-OLD BRITTANEE DREXEL, REPORTED HER MISSING: Yes, it is. Several different people throughout the two-day period that I was down there investigating, reported that he`s been changing his story. I don`t know him personally
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/27/ng.01.html

DREXEL: I talked to her on Saturday and she said she was coming home. She said I`ll just see you tomorrow. And then she will me she loved me. And I told her I loved her.

GRACE: Saturday night she gets a call from her friend, John Hahn (ph) out of North Carolina. The mother gets a call from him saying Brittanee is missing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/28/ng.01.html

here is the part where he was called and went to search. I see he talked to her mom but did not find where he exchanged texts with brit. Maybe it was on another news site but not on NG and I went thru the whole week. So im thinking the only John she was texting was her bf.

[playnice]

GRACE: With me right now, special guest, Dawn Drexel. This is Brittanee`s mother. She said she is living every parent`s worst nightmare.

Miss Drexel, thank you for being with us. What did you think when you first saw, when police showed you this surveillance video of Brittanee?

(ON THE PHONE)

DREXEL: They had spoken with me prior. You`re talking about the one that was just released yesterday, correct?

GRACE: Yes.

DREXEL: OK. We had -- they wanted -- well, what they wanted me to do was to take a look to see first of all if it was Brittanee. Because we wanted to see if she had walk into the motel and then her -- the first one that they showed to me was the back of her. So I really didn`t recognize her. When I saw her profile, then it was confirmed.

GRACE: So this is definitely Brittanee Drexel.

DREXEL: As far as we can tell, yes.

GRACE: Now you said "which video?" Is there more surveillance video?

DREXEL: They`re looking into leads that they do have. And, you know, where people have last seen her or spotted her, or they think they have spotted her. And you know a lot of the stores and things do have cameras so I`m pretty sure they`re probably looking at that also.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/01/ng.01.html

I still wonder if she wasnt seen on other video that hasnt been released yet?

[playnice]

Well he had 1 hr and 15 min. to make it from camp L to MB. ?

I read today on some news site that she was reported missing at 5am Sunday.

[sunstar]

OMG so sad to see them searching that river...wonder if they used sonar did not see it in this media link..TES uses them when searching bodies of water..this is the last ping off her phone from last saturday from what I understand so they have not found her phone sure it is off or dead by now..this is not looking so well I hate to say..just because her phone pinged does not mean she had it or has not met with foul play or has not runaway it is so hard to figrure all this out at this time we just do not know.. IMO...:crying:

After a fruitless effort Saturday, many of the groups searching for a missing New York teenager say they will not return Sunday to the riverside area where her cell phone last gave off a signal.

http://www.thesunnews.com/news/breaking_news/story/884102.html

I feel so badly for Brittanee's mother ~ not knowing is the hardest part, imo. I still think it's possible she's in the area of where the cell phone last pinged, but sadly not alive. :crying: moo

[playnice]

Did her BF know she went to MB or did she lie to him too about where she was?

[StickyBeak]

I read today on some news site that she was reported missing at 5am Sunday.

Check out this Link, it states her B/F is stationed in Camp LeJuene.
I am so confused.

http://peace4missing.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2153128%3ABlogPost%3A64559&page=4#comment-2153128_Comment_65484

[playnice]

Check out this Link, it states her B/F is stationed in Camp LeJuene.
I am so confused.

http://peace4missing.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2153128%3ABlogPost%3A64559&page=4#comment-2153128_Comment_65484

read the above I posted from NG. He said he was stationed in CL.

[playnice]

I feel so badly for Brittanee's mother ~ not knowing is the hardest part, imo. I still think it's possible she's in the area of where the cell phone last pinged, but sadly not alive. :crying: moo

I think so too.

[playnice]

the different reports of text messaging confuses me. some say 8:00 to BF and he tried to call her back. Others say 9:45 to say she was going to another hotel to see friends. I wish LE would give a pc and tell is something. I guess as long as they know the time frame that is all that matters tho.

[FindtheLost]

One more thing that I don't understand. Why didn't the mom call police from NY instead of having someone drive a couple of hours to report her missing?

The police could have gone immediately and talked to the girls and started the search a few hours earlier.

I wonder if anyone has checked out the address of where Jen Oberer lived when she was in MB. If she lived in Georgetown I wonder how close she lived to where the ping was.

My personal thoughts on this is that BD may have gotten mixed up with someone she just met (friend of JO) so I think every single person in those photos on JO's facebook page needs to be looked at. Someone who knew the area and also that BD would "trust". I really thing she was abducted but I think it was someone that she felt like she knew. And from reports I think once BD met someone she probably felt she knew them and they were "friends". Of course these are JMOO.

[StickyBeak]

One more thing that I don't understand. Why didn't the mom call police from NY instead of having someone drive a couple of hours to report her missing?

The police could have gone immediately and talked to the girls and started the search a few hours earlier.

I wonder if anyone has checked out the address of where Jen Oberer lived when she was in MB. If she lived in Georgetown I wonder how close she lived to where the ping was.

My personal thoughts on this is that BD may have gotten mixed up with someone she just met (friend of JO) so I think every single person in those photos on JO's facebook page needs to be looked at. Someone who knew the area and also that BD would "trust". I really thing she was abducted but I think it was someone that she felt like she knew. And from reports I think once BD met someone she probably felt she knew them and they were "friends". Of course these are JMOO.

I have JO in my head, previous residence and acquaintances, very Hinky. I wish Sunshine Law applied all over, curious minds need to know FGS. This is a Child missing, someones daughter, sister... I am sure LE have a heads up. The tip, why that river..... Praying

[playnice]

One more thing that I don't understand. Why didn't the mom call police from NY instead of having someone drive a couple of hours to report her missing?

The police could have gone immediately and talked to the girls and started the search a few hours earlier.

I wonder if anyone has checked out the address of where Jen Oberer lived when she was in MB. If she lived in Georgetown I wonder how close she lived to where the ping was.

My personal thoughts on this is that BD may have gotten mixed up with someone she just met (friend of JO) so I think every single person in those photos on JO's facebook page needs to be looked at. Someone who knew the area and also that BD would "trust". I really thing she was abducted but I think it was someone that she felt like she knew. And from reports I think once BD met someone she probably felt she knew them and they were "friends". Of course these are JMOO.

It could be someone she thought she knew thru a friend.
As far as mom, maybe she thought they would find her without dragging the police into it or she just wasnt thinking straight. she had to be shocked about the news.
I doubt it will even matter because I dont think she was alive past midnight.:sad: Those girls should have started looking for her when she didnt show back to return the shorts. jmo

[playnice]

How does Nancy Grace know BD is not still alive? :thumbdown:


In the posted article, John Hahn says his last contact with BD was @ 8pm? What was the context of the previous/last contacts?

If this was not a pretty little blond, would NG take such a personal interest? Especially with all the unanswered questions, deceit and evasive tactis by the Mother?

I believe every human being is as important as another. However, NG seems to be going out of her way for a known runaway.

What article? Where does NG say she is not alive and John Haln says he talked to her at 8. John Haln is not the John BF that talked to her. Im :confused:

[Pag Boi]

Dawn talked with Brittanee everyday until Saturday and thought she was with friends in New York. Up until Saturday night Dawn didn't know Brittanee was in Myrtle Beach until she got a call from Brittanee's boyfriend, John Grieco.

"He said, 'Yeah they can't find her.' What do you mean? I said, are you serious? He said "Yeah,'" said Dawn.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518596,00.html

Dawn Drexel said she didn't even know her daughter was in Myrtle Beach until Brittanee's boyfriend called late Saturday night and said her friends couldn't find her.

"I said, 'What do you mean they can't find her?'" Drexel said.

Drexel said a family friend in North Carolina immediately drove down to Myrtle Beach and called police just before 5 a.m. Sunday when Brittanee didn't return to her hotel room at the Bluewater Resort.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7479898&page=2

ETA: the abc link is has lots of info. I had missed the fight & the foreclosure info. Very sad. :rose:

[aproudmom]

I think I have read 10 diff links and all the text and times are not the same..sure wish LE would clear it up..her missing poster says last seen around 8:15 I do not think JH did anything he is a family friend that her mother called after BD boyfriend got a call from one of her the girls.and then her B/F phoned Dawn D her mother...seems a lot read our post and put the links to some of the postings on here..lol..one is even on the front page of someones site..:laugh:

Stationed at Camp Lejeune, John Hahn, a family friend for 8 years and Marine, drove the 2.5 hours from base to S.C. to file a missing persons report at the request of Drexler.

[sunstar]

One more thing that I don't understand. Why didn't the mom call police from NY instead of having someone drive a couple of hours to report her missing?

The police could have gone immediately and talked to the girls and started the search a few hours earlier.



(respectfully snipped to address question)

I agree it doesn't make a lot of sense, but some people don't think rationally when it comes to something like this. I know from experience with a family member who was talking to her husband on a long distance phone call, the phone went dead on the other end, and she tried to get phone number of a neighbor where husband was staying to go check on him. When her daughter found out what was going on, she called the PD in that city. About 30 minutes went by before EMS got there. He had suffered a fatal heart attack. :crying: (sorry to go o/t, but was just trying to explain what Brittanee's mom might have been going through).

[Pag Boi]

How does Nancy Grace know BD is not still alive? :thumbdown:


In the posted article, John Hahn says his last contact with BD was @ 8pm? What was the context of the previous/last contacts?

If this was not a pretty little blond, would NG take such a personal interest? Especially with all the unanswered questions, deceit and evasive tactis by the Mother?

I believe every human being is as important as another. However, NG seems to be going out of her way for a known runaway.



LOL consider the source
John Geico, 19 = BF lives in Rochester.

John Hahn, marine = 22 (IIRC) stationed at Camp LeJeune

If I can get motivated. I will dig up the link to interview w/Geico family

[playnice]

Pag i would like to read it if you can find it. I havent seen it.

[aproudmom]

why did CNN just have missing teenager seen on video??is it old news or new news..it said update at the bottom of the screen..sure it is old news and they are talking about the one we have seen 2 days ago

[Pag Boi]

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090429/NEWS01/904290342/1002/NEWS

snips from link:

Friends of Brittanee Drexel weren't immediately concerned that the 17-year-old didn't return to their Myrtle Beach hotel Saturday night. The group had gone their separate ways for much of their stay last week in South Carolina.

Oberer said she last heard from Drexel, via text, about 8:45 p.m. In that message, Drexel told Oberer that she was on her way back to the motel.

Alicia Grieco said her son, John, 19, who has been dating Drexel for more than a year, suspected something went wrong Saturday night. She said the two teenagers texted each other until about 8 p.m. Then after two to three hours without communication with Drexel, he started to worry.

[aproudmom]

How does Nancy Grace know BD is not still alive? :thumbdown:


In the posted article, John Hahn says his last contact with BD was @ 8pm? What was the context of the previous/last contacts?

If this was not a pretty little blond, would NG take such a personal interest? Especially with all the unanswered questions, deceit and evasive tactis by the Mother?

I believe every human being is as important as another. However, NG seems to be going out of her way for a known runaway.

when did she say that??

[playnice]

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090429/NEWS01/904290342/1002/NEWS

snips from link:
So it sound like she didnt talk to her BF after she arrived at the boys hotel. At about 8:40 is when she left the hotel. At 8:45 she texted
Jen to tell her she was on her way back. So someone must have taken her right after that. I hope that LE has checked video at the girls hotel too which they surely did to see if she could have gotten back and been abducted by it.

[annalyzer]

From the ABC article:



Why would BD need to return the clothes to her friend at that moment, if she planned on returning home with the friends?

The Mom and friend (John Hahn?) were just on Geraldo at Large, being interviewed by Kimberly Guilfoyle. For some reason, they chose to be interviewed on Nat'l tv, but give totally evasive responses.

Just fishy all around, IMO. I could be wrong. If something is wrong with BD, I hope she is helped. If a crime is committed against her, the perp should be held responsible.

However, this is just not passing the 'sniff' test, IMO.

Brittanee Drexel is most definitely a runaway from her home in NY. Whether she is okay now or not, it will not change that SHE IS A RUNAWAY.

According to news reports one of her friends called her and asked her to return a pair of her shorts. I'll go find the link.

Excerpt ~

Drexel arrived in Myrtle Beach with a few friends from Rochester last Wednesday without her mother's permission. They were staying at the Bar Harbor Resort on Ocean Boulevard.

By Friday, she had met up with a male friend, Peter Brozowitz also from Rochester, at Club Kryptonite, according to police.

Drexel met up with Brozowitz and a few other guys again on Saturday and went back to their hotel room at the Blue Water Resort that night, police said.

But around 8:15 p.m., Drexel got a call from one of her girlfriends at the Blue Water Resort. That friend wanted Drexel to return a pair of shorts, so Drexel left Bar Harbor and was heading to Blue Water, but according to police she never made it.


http://www.carolinalive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=294916

[playnice]

From the ABC article:



Why would BD need to return the clothes to her friend at that moment, if she planned on returning home with the friends?

The Mom and friend (John Hahn?) were just on Geraldo at Large, being interviewed by Kimberly Guilfoyle. For some reason, they chose to be interviewed on Nat'l tv, but give totally evasive responses.

Just fishy all around, IMO. I could be wrong. If something is wrong with BD, I hope she is helped. If a crime is committed against her, the perp should be held responsible.

However, this is just not passing the 'sniff' test, IMO.

Brittanee Drexel is most definitely a runaway from her home in NY. Whether she is okay now or not, it will not change that SHE IS A RUNAWAY.

DREXEL: It was just certain time frames, where -- when she went missing. And I really can`t discuss a lot of it, only due to the fact, you know, that -- you know this is being, you know, investigated. But I`ve been told that they have been really cooperative with the Myrtle Beach Police Department.

Maybe she has been told by LE not to release certain information so she comes off as evasive? I dont think she has anything to hide. She wasnt even there when her daughter went missing.:shrug:

[RADAR]

Her mother, Dawn, DID call the Rochester Police as soon as she heard her daughter could not be found.

LE immediately contacted the Myrtle Beach police and made them aware she was missing.

The mother spoke w/ B's marine friend whom the family has known for years. He's stationed in Camp LeJeunene. This guy, John H. is NOT B's boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is John G. Yes, she had texted both her boyfriend John G. and her pal John H. that evening - reported to have around 8pm or so.( no news report has confirmed either way if either of the John persons were or were not aware she was in MB).
Neither one of these guys were part of the group of teens who traveled to MB for vacation.

John H., the marine, recvd the request from the mother to please drive down to MB and file the official Police report which has a time posted on it as 4:51am 4/26/09. This was all coordinated by LE. They knew he was on his way there and approved on behalf of her mother.

POLICE REPORT: police report noted @ 4:51a. 4/26/09 http://rochesterhomepage.net/media/p...xelreport1.pdf

[playnice]

Her mother, Dawn, DID call the Rochester Police as soon as she heard her daughter could not be found.

LE immediately contacted the Myrtle Beach police and made them aware she was missing.

The mother spoke w/ B's marine friend whom the family has known for years. He's stationed in Camp LeJeunene. This guy, John H. is NOT B's boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is John G. Yes, she had texted both her boyfriend John G. and her pal John H. that evening - reported to have around 8pm or so.( no news report has confirmed either way if either of the John persons were or were not aware she was in MB).
Neither one of these guys were part of the group of teens who traveled to MB for vacation.

John H., the marine, recvd the request from the mother to please drive down to MB and file the official Police report which has a time posted on it as 4:51am 4/26/09. This was all coordinated by LE. They knew he was on his way there and approved on behalf of her mother.

POLICE REPORT: police report noted @ 4:51a. 4/26/09 http://rochesterhomepage.net/media/p...xelreport1.pdf

Thanks. that is good to know.

[Pag Boi]

From the ABC article:



Why would BD need to return the clothes to her friend at that moment, if she planned on returning home with the friends?

The Mom and friend (John Hahn?) were just on Geraldo at Large, being interviewed by Kimberly Guilfoyle. For some reason, they chose to be interviewed on Nat'l tv, but give totally evasive responses.

Just fishy all around, IMO. I could be wrong. If something is wrong with BD, I hope she is helped. If a crime is committed against her, the perp should be held responsible.

However, this is just not passing the 'sniff' test, IMO.

Brittanee Drexel is most definitely a runaway from her home in NY. Whether she is okay now or not, it will not change that SHE IS A RUNAWAY.

Hey Slick Lime

I am prefacing all this with a big, fat JMOO LOL

I just noticed that abc link says BD was to return to Blue Water ugggh!

Peter claims that she came over to get some red flip flops. Apparently she was holdoing something in her hand in the exit video and Peter id'd it as the flip flops.

Ann Drexel & Peter said BD got a call from one of the 15. The caller told BD to return back to Bar Harbor w/her black shorts stat

One or some of the 15 claim the texts/calls from BD later were that she was going to another hotel. I won't try make sense of teenage girls on spring break.

But the 2 johns growing so concerned in such a short amount time? It really makes me think that their last convos with BD had a dire tone

I am glad they both stepped up and told the mom that she was in MB. I don't mean to bash the mom but letting her depressed, angry minor daughter storm off on a Wed and just think she needs to blow off steam? Then she blows off her steam at that Peter guy? Just not my style. But I am sure she was drained long before BD went missing. I am sure she is bewildered and heartbroken by this situation. So I will give her a break.

I will keep my slim hopes up :roses:

[aproudmom]

Check out this Link, it states her B/F is stationed in Camp LeJuene.
I am so confused.

http://peace4missing.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2153128%3ABlogPost%3A64559&page=4#comment-2153128_Comment_65484

seen it not true they need to get their facts right IMO
He is a friends of the family for several years and he got a call from BD mother after BD b/f got a call from those girls saying she had not returned at 2 or 2:30 am so he drove there called this Peter guy got a few stories..and then the missing person report was at 4:50 am IIRC

and to the ones that wonder why she would ask him to go I am sure at the time she thought perhaps she would be found and she would not have to make the 16 hours it would have had taken her instead she called someone closer to go see if he could find her...gosh I hope some never go through this Bashing on mom and BD and now the family friend..I will not judge them I have never walked in their shoes..

[FindtheLost]

Her mother, Dawn, DID call the Rochester Police as soon as she heard her daughter could not be found.

LE immediately contacted the Myrtle Beach police and made them aware she was missing.

The mother spoke w/ B's marine friend whom the family has known for years. He's stationed in Camp LeJeunene. This guy, John H. is NOT B's boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is John G. Yes, she had texted both her boyfriend John G. and her pal John H. that evening - reported to have around 8pm or so.( no news report has confirmed either way if either of the John persons were or were not aware she was in MB).
Neither one of these guys were part of the group of teens who traveled to MB for vacation.

John H., the marine, recvd the request from the mother to please drive down to MB and file the official Police report which has a time posted on it as 4:51am 4/26/09. This was all coordinated by LE. They knew he was on his way there and approved on behalf of her mother.

POLICE REPORT: police report noted @ 4:51a. 4/26/09 http://rochesterhomepage.net/media/p...xelreport1.pdf
Yes, thanks for the information. It does make sense she would talk to the Rochester police to navigate the process.

I'm praying for a happy ending.

[aproudmom]

Her mother, Dawn, DID call the Rochester Police as soon as she heard her daughter could not be found.

LE immediately contacted the Myrtle Beach police and made them aware she was missing.

The mother spoke w/ B's marine friend whom the family has known for years. He's stationed in Camp LeJeunene. This guy, John H. is NOT B's boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is John G. Yes, she had texted both her boyfriend John G. and her pal John H. that evening - reported to have around 8pm or so.( no news report has confirmed either way if either of the John persons were or were not aware she was in MB).
Neither one of these guys were part of the group of teens who traveled to MB for vacation.

John H., the marine, recvd the request from the mother to please drive down to MB and file the official Police report which has a time posted on it as 4:51am 4/26/09. This was all coordinated by LE. They knew he was on his way there and approved on behalf of her mother.

POLICE REPORT: police report noted @ 4:51a. 4/26/09 http://rochesterhomepage.net/media/p...xelreport1.pdf

thanks for posting this..and clearing a few things up..I read somewhere he has been a family friend for 6 or 7 years

[aproudmom]

Yes, thanks for the information. It does make sense she would talk to the Rochester police to navigate the process.

I'm praying for a happy ending.

I am right there with you...

[RADAR]

By the way, no where has it been reported B is a Runaway. She lied to her mother and left town to party, that doesn't make her a runaway. She lied to her mother exactly like many teens do just to get their parents off their backs so they can do whatever they feel like doing. She told her mom she was over at a friends. She left the next day.

The kid named PB was one of several boys that saw her last. ALL the boys left town at the same time.
The video shows B arriving and leaving the boy's hotel in fine untroubled condition.
Everyone has been questioned up in Rochester. The car the boys traveled in was checked by LE and released.

This young NAIVE kid is MISSING. LE is NOT calling her a runaway. They hardly think so becuase they're down by the river 45 minutes away searching for a body. Her debit card has not been used. Her cell has not been functional since the last ping late Sat. night into Sunday morning (time has not been confirmed for last ping but I recall reading it was somewhere around midnight.)

Let's pray she is found. And for heavens sake, let's not loose focus here.

[Pag Boi]

seen it not true they need to get their facts right IMO
He is a friends of the family for several years and he got a call from BD mother after BD b/f got a call from those girls saying she had not returned at 2 or 2:30 am so he drove there called this Peter guy got a few stories..and then the missing person report was at 4:50 am IIRC

and to the ones that wonder why she would ask him to go I am sure at the time she thought perhaps she would be found and she would not have to make the 16 hours it would have had taken her instead she called someone closer to go see if he could find her...gosh I hope some never go through this Bashing on mom and BD and now the family friend..I will not judge them I have never walked in their shoes..


Well it only took us 250 posts to get the official LE report, which is only printed in Rochester site.

Too bad the SC media nor NG ever got that critical info out of Drexel,

Carolinalive link STILL has BD returning to the Blue Water Hotel.

I am so glad you were on top of things and gave us all the handy dandy links :rolleyes:

[FindtheLost]

The 11:00 news tonight had no new information.

Maybe tomorrow will bring news.

[StickyBeak]

There was a time when there was no such thing as an Amber Alert.
Parents of missing children had to search on their own or perhaps had to wait 24hrs before someone was "reported" missing. In this day and age? I am certain BD had to know someone would be seeking her out.
My hopes are slim as well. I truly hope for a happy ending.

[playnice]

Where do you find video of Geraldos show?

[RADAR]

The girl is MISSING.
At this point, no one has been cleared 100%.
Our speculating brings up the boys or one of them, the girl pals? or a stranger as the responsible party for her disappearance.

[playnice]

I REALLY don't get this timeline. I don't get any of this story.

Was it John Hahn who actually called the boyfriend, after having trouble reaching Brittannee, after perhaps having a disturbing conversation with her? I don't think anyone there with her in Myrtle Beach called the boyfriend. I think it was John Hahn, and perhaps he knows more about her state of mind than we're being told.

Her friends at her hotel seemed completely and totally unaware of her absence, and also they didn't care in the least that she was missing, and my in fact not have even noticed. I don't think anyone from that group of 15 called to express concern to the boyfriend, or her mother.

Brittanee went to Myrtle Beach last Wednesday with friends without her mother's permission. She told her mother she was at a friend's house. Her mother didn't discover the deception until the friends called to tell her that Brittanee was missing.
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Witness-Questioned-in-Brittanee-Drexel-Case/5zvFR4OCL0q6etDkAADcFw.cspx

I dont know if we ever heard the name(s) of who called. this article says the friends.:confused:

[aproudmom]

Who's bashing the Mom, friend and BD? I'm just trying to make sense of the whole thing.

If the Mom and Friend go on Nat'l tv for help, what's the point if they give evasive information? Otherwise, it just looks like they want to be on tv for vanity's sake

was not talking to you in general...but may not agree with some of your wording vanity sake..oh my daughter is missing let me go get made up OFGS...perhaps they can not tell all they know or they have been given so many stories they have no clue what could have happened..:rolleyes:

[aproudmom]

I REALLY don't get this timeline. I don't get any of this story.

Was it John Hahn who actually called the boyfriend, after having trouble reaching Brittannee, after perhaps having a disturbing conversation with her? I don't think anyone there with her in Myrtle Beach called the boyfriend. I think it was John Hahn, and perhaps he knows more about her state of mind than we're being told.

Her friends at her hotel seemed completely and totally unaware of her absence, and also they didn't care in the least that she was missing, and my in fact not have even noticed. I don't think anyone from that group of 15 called to express concern to the boyfriend, or her mother.

this girl is in a media link don't know where it is she said BD told her she was on her way back around 8 something at 2 or 2:30 she then all of a sudden worried and called BD B/F who then called her mother who then called the family friend around 2:30 he then called this Pete he gave him a few stories her clothes were left in the room that they had moved out of..he filled a Missing persons report at 4:55 am IIRC...

I have read so much bull I just read she was sharing a room with 2 girls and a guy..new one to me..so all the facts are messed up IMO...

[playnice]

I didn't see it on video. It was on FOXNews.

Thanks. I thought maybe it would be on youtube after the show but I couldnt find it.I dont get Fox.

[playnice]

this girl is in a media link don't know where it is she said BD told her she was on her way back around 8 something at 2 or 2:30 she then all of a sudden worried and called BD B/F who then called her mother who then called the family friend around 2:30 he then called this Pete he gave him a few stories her clothes were left in the room that they had moved out of..he filled a Missing persons report at 4:55 am IIRC...

I have read so much bull I just read she was sharing a room with 2 girls and a guy..new one to me..so all the facts are messed up IMO...

I read that on another message board too that the friends called JG the BF who called JH the marine then JG called dawn. . Then I found a news link that said the friends called JH, then one that said JH was her BF.:rolleyes:. Talk about messed up media reports. Its hard to figure out what the facts are.

[aproudmom]

I didn't see it on video. It was on FOXNews.

I really do not think anyone on this forum knows what the LE or the parents know..at least not every fact..and another thing she is listed as missing not a runaway they must feel she could have met with foul play or harmed herself...all jmo

If you saw them on GR he repeats but I don't watch him since he pulled his stunts with the Haleigh Cummings case putting a little kid on national TV and asking the dad if he was a informant fgs shows he needs some ratings..

[playnice]

I'm confused, too.

BD is at the hotel with the boys for about 10 minutes, before she had to leave to return the shorts to someone at her own hotel.

~~Question~~ Was the girl demanding her shorts back, because she was packing to leave to return to NY? BD was off by herself from the group of friends. Sounds like there was some dissension. For some reason, this girl didn't think she would be getting her shorts back, unless she got them right at that moment.

Sounds suspiciously as though BD had no intention of returning to NY right away.

JMO

I do think something wasnt right with her and the girls. She may not have wanted to go back to the hotel and face them. But whatever happened she did not get to an isolated area by the river 30 mi away by herself and that suggests foul play. Whether she was abducted or met someone online and planned on not returning before she left home this phone thing stinks. I hope they are checking her computer which they probably are. I hope I am wrong but I dont think she will be found alive. jmo

[aproudmom]

I read that on another message board too that the friends called JG the BF who called JH the marine then JG called dawn. . Then I found a news link that said the friends called JH, then one that said JH was her BF.:rolleyes:. Talk about messed up media reports. Its hard to figure out what the facts are.

It is all crazy IMO why can they not just lay out the timeline..you would think it would be very easy..but as far as her mother I am not so sure she has got all the true facts you stick 20 young kids in a party place they will never have the same story..or could leave things out maybe not on purpose but they are young..and perhaps afraid of getting their self in trouble if they tell all...

OK out of here for the night..hope she is found soon..and then her mom can kick her butt but until then I can not bash her mother like some..next I will read she did something to her along with the family friend..I will just wait and make no judgement since I am not in those shoes..

later playnice have a nice evening/morning soon..lol..

[playnice]

GN aproudmom. I need to do the same since I have to go to a baptism early. I hope I get up tomorrow to find she has been found.

[Pag Boi]

Who's bashing the Mom, friend and BD? I'm just trying to make sense of the whole thing.

If the Mom and Friend go on Nat'l tv for help, what's the point if they give evasive information? Otherwise, it just looks like they want to be on tv for vanity's sake

Thank you.

All I saw/posted were questions related to the information at hand, i.e.

Why didn't mom call LE

Why did BF call Sat nite

Why did JohnH call LE

Why didn't friends call

All of the above actually happened or was explained w/ LE report link. We bashed them :confused:

Do you think if I put up the "runaway" links I am bashing. Or should we stick with Dawn Drexel's official term that BD stormed away? Rochester beach lake or Myrtle Beach SC. BD was not home. She was away.

She was depressed. She was taking new medication. There is family turmoil. Teenage hormones. Secrecy. These are the circumstances presented to the public. I don't see how it is bashing. I don't see how it has been determined that she didn't harm herself.

Flaws aren't insults. Everything good and not-so-good about BD makes her special. No one wishes anything other than the best results for this beautiful child. Whitewashing is supposed to somehow make this story better? I find it all very tragic. How can we help someone else if we don't learn from the ones we could not help? JMOO

[RADAR]

The boys stayed at the Blue Water Resort and the girls were at the Bar Harbor.

[doctor_J]

It's a miracle that we get any kid safely past those horrible teen-age years. I didn't think I was going to survive it with my son. What a nightmare!

I think she had had a bad day. Also that basically being rejected by the guys was probably devastating after getting dolled up and getting her nerve up to crash their party. Big blow to her self-esteem and teen-age girls take such things VERY seriously.

I'm a little surprised the friend realized she was missing as soon as they did. It was reported they had mostly gone their separate ways while there. I am not shocked by a teenager on their own staying out till 2 am. I would have initially thought she would drag herself home by morning or after "sleeping it off" somewhere.

I don't think she qualifies as a runaway because she kept in constant contact with her mom and B/F. Also she took nothing with her.

I don't think her group had 15. That was another girl from the Rochester area who was interviewed who said she (the other girl) was in a Big Room with 15. BD went withe 2 girls and 2 boys according to Dawn. No pics showed a big room or a big group.

No way do I think she would voluntarily go for a swim. Not after spending all that time on hair and make-up. ALL pics show hair and makeup perfectly done. That takes a teenager a couple of hours and she had just got it done for the evening.

Not impossible she could have impetuously killed herself but I think she would have done it where she would be easily found. To make a statement and cause everyone who mistreated her to feel quilty.

I think she fell in with a predator between hotels. VEry vulnerable, angry, rebellious. Thought she could judge people accurately, but really knew nothing about anything.

Some teenagers don't survive their bad judgement. So sad. It could happen to any of us.

[doctor_J]

Turns out "dad" in NY is not bio-dad. Bio-dad in named John also. He was with Dawn on Geraldo tonite. His name was not Drexal but can't remember, long,Polish name??They only flashed it on screen Started with L., I think.

[Pag Boi]

MB isn't all bad. Tons of golf course. rental/housing choices. Outlet malls. Entertainment. Mixed use destination developments. Conventions. blah. blah The tourism industry provides is SC's cash crop.

During peak season, they have to shuttle peeps in from the surrounding communities to properly meet the business needs of all. I am not sure if they were already running the shuttles. I kind of think they were just b/c of the BD on bus sighting. LE said the lady boarded in G-town and got off in MB IIRC.

If the shuttles were running that Sat nite - BD may have been able to board it and got off near the river? I have NO IDEA if this is plausible. I was just thinking of ways she could have been there and NOT met foul play. IF BD was confused and/or depressed, the shuttle would have provided her a way to the cell phone ping area. Or at least it provides me w/some slim hope. :rose:
JMOO

[Pag Boi]

Turns out "dad" in NY is not bio-dad. Bio-dad in named John also. He was with Dawn on Geraldo tonite. His name was not Drexal but can't remember, long,Polish name??They only flashed it on screen Started with L., I think.


Dawn and step dad are divorcing. Apparently not amicably.

Chad Drexal is her father. He lives in Tampa. He didn't mince any words.

[aproudmom]

Since I took the time to watch the whole 5 minutes of KG I saw so signs of her mother being evasive and the man next to her is BD father her step-father is the one she is divorcing....and if anyone noticed her mother even seemed a little upset after she was ask a question by Mark F. and then got cut off..so I saw no invasive questions/answers out of her to me she did not know cause these 20 some kids will not just tell everything IMO...and yes I agree she did take off from NY and if she was a runaway then who ever drove her they should be in trouble she did not have her mothers approval and they took her over state lines it is called harboring a runway or kidnapping over state lines..so I am sure those girls she rode with are a little afraid to fess up on everything..even if they thought she was allowed to go still does not matter she was 17 seems they are all over 20 maybe they should have checked with her parents before taking her 16hrs away..and then just up and leaving her...all JMO

I will not argue over others opinions but I guess I try to think of the pain and guilt her mother is already going through and who am I to add to it by blaming her..yes she should have checked on her daughter but I do not think she thought at the time she was in MB...and if she did then she should have high tailed it there and got her daughter...but as we type away in a few hours they will continue to search for her in water and along a highway..tells me they have little hope she is alive..I pray I am wrong..

[aproudmom]

The strip at night in Myrtle Beach is very dangerous. The Bluewater Resort and villas is at 20th ave. North. Across the street is the Firebird motel that had some trouble with drugs running in and out of it, atleast it did while I was there. She had to be walking north and if indeed she was there is no telling how far she got. The Landmark Resort is one of the biggest resorts in myrtle and is 5 blocks away right on the strip. There is no telling if she even made it that far.

It is very possible that someone abducted her. In fact, I believe it to be the case sadly. It is just too dangerous out there at night, especially given the fact that she is a young beautiful girl ALONE. Ive seen women being hassled and bothered alot walking up and down the strip at night and unfortunately that might be the case here, except alot worse.

are you from that area? do you know do alot of those business not have cameras seems these days most do..I am not real familiar with MB since it has been forever but it has a boardwalk right? were you can see the ocean was her hotel not on the ocean front side

[aproudmom]

Dawn and step dad are divorcing. Apparently not amicably.

Chad Drexal is her father. He lives in Tampa. He didn't mince any words.

the guy on tonight is her bio dad his first name is John..her step-day is back home staying with her younger siblings...perhaps her step father adopted her. but that was her father on GR tonight...her mothers myspace has her kissing some Army guy so maybe she is seeing someone else since they are divorcing

[tadpole]

I was trying to put together my own timeline, and despite going back through both threads and links, I can no longer find any of the surveillance photos of her leaving the Bluewater. Just those of her entering (those are three in a series). Does anyone have a link to that or noted the timestamp on that video of her leaving (would be the shot from the back)? I wanted to see again what she might have in her hand (the red flop flops) but now all the news reports just seem to have her coming in the hotel.

Also, most of the reports note the Bar Harbor (which I'm assuming she was returning to) at 1010 S. Ocean, and half a mile away from the Bluewater, however checking the maps, it is actually at 100 N. Ocean - which makes it 1.4 mi away (approx a 30 minute walk) from the Bluewater.

I'm trying to "guess" where she might have been at the time of that text message saying she was on the way back. Was she still with the boys, leaving the hotel - or down Ocean Blvd. a few blocks? That time could be a interesting piece of the puzzle.

By 9:15 she should have made it back to the Bar Harbor (or very close) assuming she was walking at a moderate pace. Why not just return the shorts first? Unless she never made it past, say the 2/3 point? Just thinking out loud. I assume LE knows all this from triangulations made from her last texts/calls but of course I'm curious, wanting to try to get the geography right.

You can walk the Google street view and get an idea of the area (although at night I'm sure it's a whole different world). Definitely can see it can be seedy in spots.

I agree with another poster here - she could have encountered someone that she had met or even just seen a few times and therefore felt she "knew" and accepted a ride. It's a bit of a haul between the two hotels in flipflops and on a return trip and in the dark. And maybe she had been hassled. Maybe whoever offered her a ride was a "cool ride" on the back of a motorcycle.

It could turn her head. You can be a smart girl and still make dumb choices. After all I can't say any of the characters in this story (from the group she went down with to these guys she went to see) seem to be particularly nice people - no one watched out for her (although she was obviously the baby of the group) nor were even concerned about her walking at night alone - people had cars but no one offered her a ride either way. So I would have to suggest that her ability to judge a person's character is suspect.

I also read that after she left the Bluewater the guys left to go to another hotel and another party. Wonder where that was? North or south on the blvd? Where they driving or walking?

Anyway from the point she got the ride got talked into "going to a party". Hence the final text.

The link to the official police report - it doesn't work for me ... :sad:

I feel (jmo) -based on her not turning up, calling -that she met with foul play. It's so sad. After looking at the pictures (esp the ones on FB) you just see all that promise. So hope I'm wrong and she'll turn up yet.

[aproudmom]

I get the impression BD was not the only one who did not have permission to be on that trip.

you think so? but most were older and out of school right?

[aproudmom]

I was trying to put together my own timeline, and despite going back through both threads and links, I can no longer find any of the surveillance photos of her leaving the Bluewater. Just those of her entering (those are three in a series). Does anyone have a link to that or noted the timestamp on that video of her leaving (would be the shot from the back)? I wanted to see again what she might have in her hand (the red flop flops) but now all the news reports just seem to have her coming in the hotel.

Also, most of the reports note the Bar Harbor (which I'm assuming she was returning to) at 1010 S. Ocean, and half a mile away from the Bluewater, however checking the maps, it is actually at 100 N. Ocean - which makes it 1.4 mi away (approx a 30 minute walk) from the Bluewater.

I'm trying to "guess" where she might have been at the time of that text message saying she was on the way back. Was she still with the boys, leaving the hotel - or down Ocean Blvd. a few blocks? That time could be a interesting piece of the puzzle.

By 9:15 she should have made it back to the Bar Harbor (or very close) assuming she was walking at a moderate pace. Why not just return the shorts first? Unless she never made it past, say the 2/3 point? Just thinking out loud. I assume LE knows all this from triangulations made from her last texts/calls but of course I'm curious, wanting to try to get the geography right.

You can walk the Google street view and get an idea of the area (although at night I'm sure it's a whole different world). Definitely can see it can be seedy in spots.

I agree with another poster here - she could have encountered someone that she had met or even just seen a few times and therefore felt she "knew" and accepted a ride. It's a bit of a haul between the two hotels in flipflops and on a return trip and in the dark. And maybe she had been hassled. Maybe whoever offered her a ride was a "cool ride" on the back of a motorcycle.

It could turn her head. You can be a smart girl and still make dumb choices. After all I can't say any of the characters in this story (from the group she went down with to these guys she went to see) seem to be particularly nice people - no one watched out for her (although she was obviously the baby of the group) nor were even concerned about her walking at night alone - people had cars but no one offered her a ride either way. So I would have to suggest that her ability to judge a person's character is suspect.

I also read that after she left the Bluewater the guys left to go to another hotel and another party. Wonder where that was? North or south on the blvd? Where they driving or walking?

Anyway from the point she got the ride got talked into "going to a party". Hence the final text.

The link to the official police report - it doesn't work for me ... :sad:

I feel (jmo) -based on her not turning up, calling -that she met with foul play. It's so sad. After looking at the pictures (esp the ones on FB) you just see all that promise. So hope I'm wrong and she'll turn up yet.

they are red flip flops the guy she went to see told them what they were when they ask him to look he said she came to pick them up..I know where you can get the 3 pics but will not post the persons link one on this persons site said 8:40 or something like that when she was leaving but I am not sure if it is true...

[aproudmom]

I was trying to put together my own timeline, and despite going back through both threads and links, I can no longer find any of the surveillance photos of her leaving the Bluewater. Just those of her entering (those are three in a series). Does anyone have a link to that or noted the timestamp on that video of her leaving (would be the shot from the back)? I wanted to see again what she might have in her hand (the red flop flops) but now all the news reports just seem to have her coming in the hotel.

Also, most of the reports note the Bar Harbor (which I'm assuming she was returning to) at 1010 S. Ocean, and half a mile away from the Bluewater, however checking the maps, it is actually at 100 N. Ocean - which makes it 1.4 mi away (approx a 30 minute walk) from the Bluewater.

I'm trying to "guess" where she might have been at the time of that text message saying she was on the way back. Was she still with the boys, leaving the hotel - or down Ocean Blvd. a few blocks? That time could be a interesting piece of the puzzle.

By 9:15 she should have made it back to the Bar Harbor (or very close) assuming she was walking at a moderate pace. Why not just return the shorts first? Unless she never made it past, say the 2/3 point? Just thinking out loud. I assume LE knows all this from triangulations made from her last texts/calls but of course I'm curious, wanting to try to get the geography right.

You can walk the Google street view and get an idea of the area (although at night I'm sure it's a whole different world). Definitely can see it can be seedy in spots.

I agree with another poster here - she could have encountered someone that she had met or even just seen a few times and therefore felt she "knew" and accepted a ride. It's a bit of a haul between the two hotels in flipflops and on a return trip and in the dark. And maybe she had been hassled. Maybe whoever offered her a ride was a "cool ride" on the back of a motorcycle.

It could turn her head. You can be a smart girl and still make dumb choices. After all I can't say any of the characters in this story (from the group she went down with to these guys she went to see) seem to be particularly nice people - no one watched out for her (although she was obviously the baby of the group) nor were even concerned about her walking at night alone - people had cars but no one offered her a ride either way. So I would have to suggest that her ability to judge a person's character is suspect.

I also read that after she left the Bluewater the guys left to go to another hotel and another party. Wonder where that was? North or south on the blvd? Where they driving or walking?

Anyway from the point she got the ride got talked into "going to a party". Hence the final text.

The link to the official police report - it doesn't work for me ... :sad:

I feel (jmo) -based on her not turning up, calling -that she met with foul play. It's so sad. After looking at the pictures (esp the ones on FB) you just see all that promise. So hope I'm wrong and she'll turn up yet.

Check your PM just sent you a link to a other site...the time she left was timed at 8:13pm

[RADAR]

Try this link to the pdf:
POLICE REPORT
http://rochesterhomepage.net/media/pdf/drexelreport1.pdf

It just worked for me after 2 trys.



Also, I forgot who made the inquiry earlier about the names of the hotels involved:
boys: Blue Water Hotel/Resort
girls: Bar Harbor and then moved to the Boardwalk Motel
(girls hotel info is noted in the Police Report-2nd page of pdf)