Tuesday April 28

[madameX]

Good morning, all, some of you were up really late last night!

[Scampi]

Good morning Madame. I heard yesterday that the Sheriff's office has ruled out a stranger abduction in the case of Haleigh, is that correct?

[JackiBlu]

Good morning, all, some of you were up really late last night!

GM and Thank you for the new thread.

Praying today is the day Haleigh comes home.

Hoping the posts on the board today won't be based on so many rumors; as they were yesterday. I know it's really hard with not much information confirmed by LE.

JMO

[panache]

Haleigh's Grandmother Kicks Off Victim's Rights Week.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-Grandmother-Kicks-Off-Victims-Rights-Week/gA9sVq3MxEufw3Rjp-Aphw.cspx

[Scampi]

Looks like investigative journalist Art Harris has learned from a lead member of the task force, that Haleigh was not taken by a stranger. I have believed this all along. The answer to Haleigh's "disappearance" lies with the occupants of that trailer only. imo.
From Jane Velez Mitchells show last night:

Art, tell us about the stunning revelation made to you by a lead member of the task force. What is this about they`re confident it was not a stranger abduction?

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: That`s right. Jane, they are looking at people close to the families, to see how this could have possibly happened. It does not have the earmarks of a stranger abduction. A lead investigator tells me.

And they are narrowing the search to look at timelines of everybody who knew Haleigh and her family and to try to plug the holes and find the contradictions. Then they hope they can find someone who can put one of these key people, I`m not going to say suspects, out of where they said they were.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/27/ijvm.01.htm

[Scampi]

I did read that in two different written sources, and art harris stated it last night. I feel like thhis is a significant development in the case, and of course, it rules out Chad Reynolds.....or at least I think it does, unless he knows someone in the family, but I am of the opinion, and it's my opinion only, that they are definitely saying it was an "inside job", for lack of a better term right now.

Thank you Madame, I found it and posted it.

[panache]

According to Art Harris, Misty has lawyered up.

See post 103 in the Comments Section.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/24/haleigh-cummings-cnns-jane-velez-mitchell/

[Scampi]

Thanks, I totally forgot about links! It seems to me to be the most significant information we have gotten in a while, don't you think so?

Yes, I do. IMO, LE are leaking selective information thru Art Harris.

[rosieposett]

Looks like investigative journalist Art Harris has learned from a lead member of the task force, that Haleigh was not taken by a stranger. I have believed this all along. The answer to Haleigh's "disappearance" lies with the occupants of that trailer only. imo.
From Jane Velez Mitchells show last night:

Art, tell us about the stunning revelation made to you by a lead member of the task force. What is this about they`re confident it was not a stranger abduction?

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: That`s right. Jane, they are looking at people close to the families, to see how this could have possibly happened. It does not have the earmarks of a stranger abduction. A lead investigator tells me.

And they are narrowing the search to look at timelines of everybody who knew Haleigh and her family and to try to plug the holes and find the contradictions. Then they hope they can find someone who can put one of these key people, I`m not going to say suspects, out of where they said they were.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/27/ijvm.01.htm

'Morning all. Hoping today is good news on little Haleigh.

I am in agreement with you Scampi. I never believed it was a stranger abduction either. Too much evidence points toward inside the trailer/home. jmo

[carlybarly]

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/04/officials-have-differing-opini.html

I saw this earlier in my search for news. Any idea or clues on who in Haleigh's family was there? They don't list names unfortunately.

The rally outside Jacksonville City Hall was attended by the loved ones of missing people like Haleigh Cummings and murder victims like Kelly Chappell. They're begging for community cooperation to help solve local crimes and to help end them.

[kitty1182]

Good morning..Hoping for some news today..

[Peaches]

Good morning! Us, too! I have a feeling this whole thing is going to come tumbling down like a badly built house of cards, IMO



Hopefully, little Haleigh will be alive and well.

Also, I hope this happens sooner rather than later.

[Texas48]

Good morning, all, some of you were up really late last night!Morning X..ty for the thread..I really need to learn how to do that..just lazy I quess..always wait for a givegood person like yourself to get it started..What will today bring? I HOPE if there is *anything* that Misty or Ron or anyone can say that will give info about Haleigh..Someone knows what happened to this baby girl and its time to give it up..and a good morning to ALL..

[Texas48]

GM and Thank you for the new thread.

Praying today is the day Haleigh comes home.

Hoping the posts on the board today won't be based on so many rumors; as they were yesterday. I know it's really hard with not much information confirmed by LE.

JMOgood morning jacki..I also hope for new news from one of this bunch thats involved..its more than past time imo..

[Texas48]

I did read that in two different written sources, and art harris stated it last night. I feel like thhis is a significant development in the case, and of course, it rules out Chad Reynolds.....or at least I think it does, unless he knows someone in the family, but I am of the opinion, and it's my opinion only, that they are definitely saying it was an "inside job", for lack of a better term right now.Once again I agree X..at least LE has ruled out a SO which Im not sure anyone believed it anyway. just maybe they will start getting some answers now..

[Texas48]

Yes, I do. IMO, LE are leaking selective information thru Art Harris.but you know what scamp..why doesn't LE just give a presser and state this? I am not understanding why they wont do it..

[Texas48]

Hopefully, little Haleigh will be alive and well.

Also, I hope this happens sooner rather than later.I believe we all want that..for Haleigh to come back home..alive and well..I just have and have had a real bad feeling about this little girl..I hope Im wrong..

[Peaches]

I believe we all want that..for Haleigh to come back home..alive and well..I just have and have had a real bad feeling about this little girl..I hope Im wrong..


I agree with you and like you just do not want to voice it.

Hopefully, today will be the day LE finds the guilty one.

[Texas48]

Really Tex. It would certainly be more believeable to me anyhow.It just seems to me that ALL or at least the guilty would be more scared if LE came out and stated it as fact.kwim?

[kitty1182]

Good morning! Us, too! I have a feeling this whole thing is going to come tumbling down like a badly built house of cards, IMO

whatever has happen ,IMO has something to do with the family, not a SO or kidnapper..

[bookie]

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I dont understand why they would not allow them to search you can bet if my child was missing they would have to arrest me before they told me I could not set up searches for my child...


I brought this over from last night's thread. I think a lot of the reason LE doesn't want people searching has to do with contaminating evidence, chain of command and other issues like that.

If a body is found and the searchers who found it trampled the scene it would make finding evidence harder. It would also give defense attorneys plenty to work with if someone is arrested.

A few weeks ago TJ Hart posted something on his site about Cobra and Johnny Sheffield finding a blanket and handing it over to police. It was just the next day that police said they didn't want people searching. Now if Johnny Sheffield and Cobra removed the items they found and took them to the police I can understand the police not wanting people searching. Johnny Sheffield is a former cop and should know all about chain of command.

[Owlface]

I brought this over from last night's thread. I think a lot of the reason LE doesn't want people searching has to do with contaminating evidence, chain of command and other issues like that.

If a body is found and the searchers who found it trampled the scene it would make finding evidence harder. It would also give defense attorneys plenty to work with if someone is arrested.

A few weeks ago TJ Hart posted something on his site about Cobra and Johnny Sheffield finding a blanket and handing it over to police. It was just the next day that police said they didn't want people searching. Now if Johnny Sheffield and Cobra removed the items they found and took them to the police I can understand the police not wanting people searching. Johnny Sheffield is a former cop and should know all about chain of command.


This would make sense if the family thought they were searching for a body, rather than their live Haleigh. And I guess if the search is being done in the woods, they would not thinking they are searching for someone alive at this point in time. Doesn't explain the first few days though.

I've never understood people criticizing the family at this point in time for "not searching".

[Peaches]

I brought this over from last night's thread. I think a lot of the reason LE doesn't want people searching has to do with contaminating evidence, chain of command and other issues like that.

If a body is found and the searchers who found it trampled the scene it would make finding evidence harder. It would also give defense attorneys plenty to work with if someone is arrested.

A few weeks ago TJ Hart posted something on his site about Cobra and Johnny Sheffield finding a blanket and handing it over to police. It was just the next day that police said they didn't want people searching. Now if Johnny Sheffield and Cobra removed the items they found and took them to the police I can understand the police not wanting people searching. Johnny Sheffield is a former cop and should know all about chain of command.


Bookie, this should let all know why Ron is not searching.............as well as why any other member of the family is out searching.

As many have said, Ron is not the only person who loved Haleigh.....and they are not searching either.

moo

[Peaches]

This would make sense if the family thought they were searching for a body, rather than their live Haleigh. And I guess if the search is being done in the woods, they would not thinking they are searching for someone alive at this point in time. Doesn't explain the first few days though.

I've never understood people criticizing the family at this point in time for "not searching".



Ron did seach with TEX.

[baywench]

Bookie, this should let all know why Ron is not searching.............as well as why any other member of the family is out searching.

As many have said, Ron is not the only person who loved Haleigh.....and they are not searching either.

moo


From that time that TES was sent packing I have felt the vibe from LE was that they were not looking for a living child. It explains alot of the behaviors with the family imo. I am sure LE has let them know they do not believe searches are worthwhile. jmo

[bookie]

This would make sense if the family thought they were searching for a body, rather than their live Haleigh. And I guess if the search is being done in the woods, they would not thinking they are searching for someone alive at this point in time. Doesn't explain the first few days though.

I've never understood people criticizing the family at this point in time for "not searching".


The family searching for a live Haleigh doesn't change anything. At this stage the police know the odds of Haleigh being found alive aren't good so they know any searches could turn up a body and evidence. If Johnny Sheffield and Cobra were stupid enough to pick up a blanket and take it to the police then the families don't need to be searching.

I've never criticized the families for not searching. I have pointed out the hypocricy of criticizing Ron for not searching lately when Crystal has never searched.

[bookie]

I remember the blanket incident, so LE has been working with the theory for some time that Haleigh is dead, then? And they are just trying to put all the pieces together to find out how she died, and where she is.

I am so sad. Words cannot express it.


I'm sure LE is working with many theories but at 2+ months they know the statistics aren't good. They hope Haleigh is alive but they also have to investigate with the thought in mind that she isn't. Part of that would be making sure any potential evidence isn't tainted.

[bookie]

Ron did seach with TEX.



And has been ridiculed for it ever since.

[Former Juror]

IMO, it has to be more than potentially contaminating evidence. Our family continues to search for our missing family member. And, I mean in abandoned buildings, vacant lots, farmland, etc. No member of LE has ever asked our family not to search.

There is something different about this case, IMO.

[bookie]

IMO, it has to be more than potentially contaminating evidence. Our family continues to search for our missing family member. And, I mean in abandoned buildings, vacant lots, farmland, etc. No member of LE has ever asked our family not to search.

There is something different about this case, IMO.


Did your family ever pick up a possibly bloody blanket and take it to the police? That happened in this case. The someone was a former cop who would know better than anyone else how to handle possible evidence.

[Former Juror]

Did your family ever pick up a possibly bloody blanket and take it to the police? That happened in this case. The someone was a former cop who would know better than anyone else how to handle possible evidence.

I rarely post about my family member, and I don't want to give too many details. But, I will say my family has found evidence and knew to call the authorities rather than to touch it.

The intelligence level of these people notwithstanding, I think LE knows a LOT more than we do and has its own reasons for not wanting any of Haleigh's family out looking. Searches are generally encouraged, and there is some reason that is not happening in this case.

IMO

[2boysMom]

None of this new information tells me that Haleigh is dead. I'm holding out hope that she may still be alive. Something tells me that this is what's different about this case. I don't know why, but I just feel she may be OK. Please, God, let it be true.

[Scampi]

but you know what scamp..why doesn't LE just give a presser and state this? I am not understanding why they wont do it..

LE sometimes works this way in an effort to make the perp panic and then make mistakes.

[bookie]

I rarely post about my family member, and I don't want to give too many details. But, I will say my family has found evidence and knew to call the authorities rather than to touch it.

The intelligence level of these people notwithstanding, I think LE knows a LOT more than we do and has its own reasons for not wanting any of Haleigh's family out looking. Searches are generally encouraged, and there is some reason that is not happening in this case.

IMO


I wasn't asking for personal details about your family. It was a general question after your brought up your family searching.

[Former Juror]

I wasn't asking for personal details about your family. It was a general question after your brought up your family searching.

I understand. I just didn't want to say too much about actual evidence that has been found and wanted to be honest about that upfront.

[Ice Cycle]

Did your family ever pick up a possibly bloody blanket and take it to the police? That happened in this case. The someone was a former cop who would know better than anyone else how to handle possible evidence.

This might very well be but as I have said before the theory that someone might contaminate evidence might of applied at the beginning and if any officials were looking, LE ,TES or someone. But at this point or soon their is not going to be any evidence to contaminate, see CA case. If LE doesn't want to search or have someone search, then others should be able to.

[Ice Cycle]

IMO it's not a good idea for the family to be doing it since they seem to be implicated so deeply at this point.

Yes and I feel that is a possibility also but evidently LE is not so sure since they have not said any are suspects or even a POI.
They seem to want to have it both ways. But I still would of though LE would of a least let TES search, someone needs to be.

[seeker]

Bookie, this should let all know why Ron is not searching.............as well as why any other member of the family is out searching.

As many have said, Ron is not the only person who loved Haleigh.....and they are not searching either.

moo
It appears that, staying within the law, Haleigh's mom has opened a center; a central location where people can come with any information they may have. She has hired an attorney, who is working within the law, to not only protect Crystal's child(ren), but to also seek answers into what could have possibly happened to this precious child, Crystal's oldest daughter.

There are ways of searching that go beyond tramping through the woods and dragging the water. (In no way do I mean to imply that this shouldn't be done by those who can, within the limits of the law).

my thoughts and opinions

[seeker]

I rarely post about my family member, and I don't want to give too many details. But, I will say my family has found evidence and knew to call the authorities rather than to touch it.

The intelligence level of these people notwithstanding, I think LE knows a LOT more than we do and has its own reasons for not wanting any of Haleigh's family out looking. Searches are generally encouraged, and there is some reason that is not happening in this case.

IMO
Dear Former Juror,

I am certain that those of us here wish you our condolences. Thank you for trusting us enough to share your personal experiences.

[seeker]

Yes and I feel that is a possibility also but evidently LE is not so sure since they have not said any are suspects or even a POI.
They seem to want to have it both ways. But I still would of though LE would of a least let TES search, someone needs to be.

They have stated that those who surround(ed) Haleigh are suspects. In the beginning they said "the whole world" was a suspect.

I have read this and will look for a link, if requested.

[seeker]

IMO the past week or so Art really has been defending Ron a lot. He's even been telling his commenters to stop believing all the rumors Ron left work and went home and then went back to work. He also said that neighbors saw Haleigh outside after Ron went to work.

I think Art and the LE believe Misty or her "friends" might have done something.

MOO

F.A,
Most people who aspire to be journalists, despite any preconceived notions they may hold, are trained and work to be objective. Hopefully, this is true for Art Harris. He should have no agenda beyond a search for the truth and the reporting of facts, as best as he is able.

my thoughts

[Ice Cycle]

They have stated that those who surround(ed) Haleigh are suspects. In the beginning they said "the whole world" was a suspect.

I have read this and will look for a link, if requested.




The link is not necessary though I though what I heard was in response to a questions if anyone had been cleared and he no everyone was still a suspect. But as we know from past cases they usually do name a POI that they are suspicious of.

A feeling I have had since almost the beginning of this case, as some would say my hinky meter went off is about LE's actions in this case. They gave pc's everyday at the beginning not saying much of anything, then stopped TES from searching, then later been even more closed mouth about the facts. I have often wondered if their actions have had anything to due with the high publicity the CA has gotten in Florida. That they have tried to avoid the same thing from happening to this case and pushed all reporters away and keep it all under raps. It is not so much that I disagree with that way but only to a certain extent. With the CA case it is almost like too much was said and this one not enough, especially given the fact that she has never been found.

[Motomom]

IMO the past week or so Art really has been defending Ron a lot. He's even been telling his commenters to stop believing all the rumors Ron left work and went home and then went back to work. He also said that neighbors saw Haleigh outside after Ron went to work.

I think Art and the LE believe Misty or her "friends" might have done something.

MOO

I wish something would happen soon FA..I hope all of the pieces are fitting in together. I'm not sure I believe Misty and her friends have done something, only because it is so hard to imagine young girls/guys harming this little girl. I know we have some sick sick people in this world so I know its all too possible. I wonder what is really going on behind the scenes. I wish LE would give us something.. anything at this point.

[seeker]

The link is not necessary though I though what I heard was in response to a questions if anyone had been cleared and he no everyone was still a suspect. But as we know from past cases they usually do name a POI that they are suspicious of.

A feeling I have had since almost the beginning of this case, as some would say my hinky meter went off is about LE's actions in this case. They gave pc's everyday at the beginning not saying much of anything, then stopped TES from searching, then later been even more closed mouth about the facts. I have often wondered if their actions have had anything to due with the high publicity the CA has gotten in Florida. That they have tried to avoid the same thing from happening to this case and pushed all reporters away and keep it all under raps. It is not so much that I disagree with that way but only to a certain extent. With the CA case it is almost like too much was said and this one not enough, especially given the fact that she has never been found.

I think I see what you're saying. They may not clear people but they also have not named a suspect or a person of interest.

This is all pretty new to me; I know next to nothing about the Anthony case and had never heard of TES or many of the websites where people blog about crime. It is very eye-opening and a learning experience. It makes sense that, if too much information was given out in the Anthony case and the different agencies involved in missing children cases learned from that, than those involved in this investigation would be shy about revealing...anything.

my thoughts

[Motomom]

The link is not necessary though I though what I heard was in response to a questions if anyone had been cleared and he no everyone was still a suspect. But as we know from past cases they usually do name a POI that they are suspicious of.

A feeling I have had since almost the beginning of this case, as some would say my hinky meter went off is about LE's actions in this case. They gave pc's everyday at the beginning not saying much of anything, then stopped TES from searching, then later been even more closed mouth about the facts. I have often wondered if their actions have had anything to due with the high publicity the CA has gotten in Florida. That they have tried to avoid the same thing from happening to this case and pushed all reporters away and keep it all under raps. It is not so much that I disagree with that way but only to a certain extent. With the CA case it is almost like too much was said and this one not enough, especially given the fact that she has never been found.

Ice do you think a stronger media presense is better for the case, when someone finally gets arrested? I've been following the CA case the entire time . We have watched that case unfold, without missing a beat. New information every couple weeks or sooner. It's interesting to see this unfold on a different level. I think I will really be shocked when the truth emerges.

[blink]

Nay Nay is back in jail. Not sure if her bond was rescinded, or what? She was re-booked this afternoon.


Kristina Renee Prevatt

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753715&IMG=37631

[blink]

Yep, same charges. Not sure if the bond was revoked by the court or whoever put the money up for it in the first place, Cobra? Maybe she refused to go to rehab after all.

[blink]

IIRC, I don't think they were "sent" away. I believe they had to be at another scheduled search elsewhere.

[dustyk]

oh good grief, what next??
I wonder what she knows, There are no new charges so the bond must have been revoked. I wonder if Nay Nay knows where Misty was that night. JMO

[Ice Cycle]

Ice do you think a stronger media presense is better for the case, when someone finally gets arrested? I've been following the CA case the entire time . We have watched that case unfold, without missing a beat. New information every couple weeks or sooner. It's interesting to see this unfold on a different level. I think I will really be shocked when the truth emerges.

Well what I think was that due to the Media presence in the CA case is the reason it became so known and alot of the facts another words it was kept in the Media.
Regardless weather it was due to a slow news day or what, it was done out there so to speak. I do believe that it is possible this LE took note of that being that this was on the heels of that case and then have been too much the other way as far as revealing to the public.

Does this have anything to do with them doing their job and solving this, in most instances I would say no but that might be something that the public will never know. I just have a problem with them not letting TES search, if that is true. Doesn't mean necessarily that she was not still alive. They were and are capable of looking in both ways.

[dustyk]

I thought bond was all about making your court date, can they revoke her bond if she didn't go to rehab?
Cobra can if that was a condition for him bonding her out or if he thinks she knows something and is lying. JMO

[blink]

IIRC, I don't think they were "sent" away. I believe they had to be at another scheduled search elsewhere.

Yikes....I am quoting myself.

I was wrong. Must have been thinking of another case :sad:

I found this in regards to TES and their leaving.

According to Mike Ray, a Texas EquuSearch search coordinator who was on the ground during the search effort, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office asked Texas EquuSearch to pull out of the search yesterday. Ray would not discuss the specifics of that request; however he did say they had conducted a thorough search of the area.
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Criminal_Law/Florida_Police_Receive_New_Leads_Abduction_Haleigh _Cummings.php?item=383363

[bookie]

I thought bond was all about making your court date, can they revoke her bond if she didn't go to rehab?


If the bond co made that a condition of her release they can. If it wasn't a condition then I don't think they can.

[jammies]

Yikes....I am quoting myself.

I was wrong. Must have been thinking of another case :sad:

I found this in regards to TES and their leaving.

According to Mike Ray, a Texas EquuSearch search coordinator who was on the ground during the search effort, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office asked Texas EquuSearch to pull out of the search yesterday. Ray would not discuss the specifics of that request; however he did say they had conducted a thorough search of the area.
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Criminal_Law/Florida_Police_Receive_New_Leads_Abduction_Haleigh _Cummings.php?item=383363


Sounds as though LE knew Haleigh wasn't anywhere in the area from the get-go.

[Texas48]

IMO it's not a good idea for the family to be doing it since they seem to be implicated so deeply at this point.You make a good point X..plus..it might not be good idea for any family member to discover Haleigh's little body in the woods or water..actually anywhere out in the open..speaking only for myself I think if it were me and came upon the body of any person or child out like that..I might not survive and would be destroyed if it was my child or my grandchild. jmo

[Texas48]

The link is not necessary though I though what I heard was in response to a questions if anyone had been cleared and he no everyone was still a suspect. But as we know from past cases they usually do name a POI that they are suspicious of.

A feeling I have had since almost the beginning of this case, as some would say my hinky meter went off is about LE's actions in this case. They gave pc's everyday at the beginning not saying much of anything, then stopped TES from searching, then later been even more closed mouth about the facts. I have often wondered if their actions have had anything to due with the high publicity the CA has gotten in Florida. That they have tried to avoid the same thing from happening to this case and pushed all reporters away and keep it all under raps. It is not so much that I disagree with that way but only to a certain extent. With the CA case it is almost like too much was said and this one not enough, especially given the fact that she has never been found.I can't remember the former FBI man's name but he is on HLN every day..here about 2 weeks ago he was complimenting Tracy PD for the work they did and the way they handled the Sandra Cantu case and was saying that possiblly LE in Florida investigating the HC case could take lessons from Tracy PD..He went onto say that *usually* LE keeps all info and releases very little to media..he believed LE in Haleigh's case would benefit by releasing what info they could to media and maybe..just maybe someone would think of something that may help find Haleigh..he could be right..anything at this point could NOT hurt..IMO.

[Scampi]

Yikes....I am quoting myself.

I was wrong. Must have been thinking of another case :sad:

I found this in regards to TES and their leaving.

According to Mike Ray, a Texas EquuSearch search coordinator who was on the ground during the search effort, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office asked Texas EquuSearch to pull out of the search yesterday. Ray would not discuss the specifics of that request; however he did say they had conducted a thorough search of the area.
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Criminal_Law/Florida_Police_Receive_New_Leads_Abduction_Haleigh _Cummings.php?item=383363


Hi Blink. You hearing about any police activity up in Jacksonville today?

[Texas48]

I wish something would happen soon FA..I hope all of the pieces are fitting in together. I'm not sure I believe Misty and her friends have done something, only because it is so hard to imagine young girls/guys harming this little girl. I know we have some sick sick people in this world so I know its all too possible. I wonder what is really going on behind the scenes. I wish LE would give us something.. anything at this point.
It seems to me that we see so many evil ppl in life today..maybe because it was not reported on many many years ago like it is today..but it really scares me to know that ANYONE..regardless of gender or age..poor..middle class or wealthy is capable of the most horiffic crimes..I suppose nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to evil..It doesn't have a face IMO.

[Motomom]

Well what I think was that due to the Media presence in the CA case is the reason it became so known and alot of the facts another words it was kept in the Media.
Regardless weather it was due to a slow news day or what, it was done out there so to speak. I do believe that it is possible this LE took note of that being that this was on the heels of that case and then have been too much the other way as far as revealing to the public.

Does this have anything to do with them doing their job and solving this, in most instances I would say no but that might be something that the public will never know. I just have a problem with them not letting TES search, if that is true. Doesn't mean necessarily that she was not still alive. They were and are capable of looking in both ways.

I don't like that TES was sent home. I see the link above about it again. I don't know what to think at this point to be honest.

[Motomom]

It seems to me that we see so many evil ppl in life today..maybe because it was not reported on many many years ago like it is today..but it really scares me to know that ANYONE..regardless of gender or age..poor..middle class or wealthy is capable of the most horiffic crimes..I suppose nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to evil..It doesn't have a face IMO.

I know.. I don't think it's worse, some crimes maybe..but I think it is just reported more. You can read back through the yrs, many many..too many sick/evil people out there. Mentioning the girls may be involved takes me back to that shandra shearer (sp) case. Granted, she was older then Haleigh with different motivations, but the idea that a bunch of young girls would do something so horrific kwim?

[blink]

Hi Blink. You hearing about any police activity up in Jacksonville today?

Scampi....lol...I am not that Blink! I just have the same nic I guess. I've been thinking in the past few days I should probably change it. Not sure if I can or if I would need to re-register.

[Motomom]

Why would Cobra revoke her bail if he thinks she's "key" the the case and was going to rehab?

Maybe she was picked up on something minor and LE has suspicions of her? If they have her, they can question her right? Maybe they thought she was going to run?? So grabbed her for something.. All jmo and pure speculation

[Motomom]

they said she's one of the keys, maybe they're gonna question her until she cracks....shouldn't take too long

I hope not. I wonder if we'll see another arrest soon. Wouldn't it be wonderful if these girls were in a plan for either revenge or a cruel joke gone wrong and this little girl is alive out there and brought home. I am praying that is the case, knowing the chances aren't good at all.

[Scampi]

Scampi....lol...I am not that Blink! I just have the same nic I guess. I've been thinking in the past few days I should probably change it. Not sure if I can or if I would need to re-register.

LOL, okay I didn't know. Nah, word will spread, I like your nic, welcome. :seeya:

[aproudmom]

According to Art Harris, Misty has lawyered up.

See post 103 in the Comments Section.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/24/haleigh-cummings-cnns-jane-velez-mitchell/

She needed to IMO

[aproudmom]

I don't like that TES was sent home. I see the link above about it again. I don't know what to think at this point to be honest.

I have wondered the same thing..they pulled out way to fast but LE told them they had searched everywhere..okey dokey..Tim Miller is wonderful and is highly respected by LE so sure when they said they had searched all areas he did what was ask of him..

[aproudmom]

Why would Cobra revoke her bail if he thinks she's "key" the the case and was going to rehab?

WOW he revoked her bond did he not bond both of them out

[blink]

Thanks Scampi! I have been around IS/Court TV for years, but mostly just read.

I am keeping my eye on the PCSO Booking Log, kinda half waiting to see if Amber gets picked up again too.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

[aproudmom]

It seems to me that we see so many evil ppl in life today..maybe because it was not reported on many many years ago like it is today..but it really scares me to know that ANYONE..regardless of gender or age..poor..middle class or wealthy is capable of the most horiffic crimes..I suppose nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to evil..It doesn't have a face IMO.

You and me both it seems we hear of more and more everyday

[Ice Cycle]

I can't remember the former FBI man's name but he is on HLN every day..here about 2 weeks ago he was complimenting Tracy PD for the work they did and the way they handled the Sandra Cantu case and was saying that possiblly LE in Florida investigating the HC case could take lessons from Tracy PD..He went onto say that *usually* LE keeps all info and releases very little to media..he believed LE in Haleigh's case would benefit by releasing what info they could to media and maybe..just maybe someone would think of something that may help find Haleigh..he could be right..anything at this point could NOT hurt..IMO.

This is what I think also and was what I was saying, it has gone on too long now.

[aproudmom]

Thanks Scampi! I have been around IS/Court TV for years, but mostly just read.

I am keeping my eye on the PCSO Booking Log, kinda half waiting to see if Amber gets picked up again too.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

so he just revoked this nay nays bond? and not Amber's..

[aproudmom]

This is what I think also and was what I was saying, it has gone on too long now.

yep way to long is it going on the 3rd month right:sad:

[Motomom]

Thanks Scampi! I have been around IS/Court TV for years, but mostly just read.

I am keeping my eye on the PCSO Booking Log, kinda half waiting to see if Amber gets picked up again too.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

Great Blink.. How often do they update it, how longs it take for someone to get picked up and online like that?

[blink]

Motomom
I'm not sure. I keep it open in a tab, and just go check it every now and then and hit "refresh".

[aproudmom]

Scampi....lol...I am not that Blink! I just have the same nic I guess. I've been thinking in the past few days I should probably change it. Not sure if I can or if I would need to re-register.

I thought the same thing :biggrin:

[blink]

so he just revoked this nay nays bond? and not Amber's..

It hasn't come out why she was picked up today and re-booked. Or at least I haven't seen anything posted yet. So, not sure if it was Cobra's doing or what.

[aproudmom]

Padilla said he could have revoked Casey's bail at any time he wanted to. So i guess that goes for Cobra also.

Yep he was hoping she would get out and help find her child and when she did not want to even say her name cha ching back in the Ol slammer

[aproudmom]

Do we know for sure bond was revoked? Could she simply have broken conditions?

I am not sure just got on and reading up..who is this nay nay is that who we are talking about or amber..sorry to many in this whole case to keep up with...

[LILMANMAX]

Is this Renee best friends with Amber?
I can't keep up with all these characters either.
Sorry
I'll duck. :ohmy:

[aproudmom]

It hasn't come out why she was picked up today and re-booked. Or at least I haven't seen anything posted yet. So, not sure if it was Cobra's doing or what.

Thanks a lot blink so where did it come from just a poster or another site? what is her name

[aproudmom]

Is this Renee best friends with Amber?
I can't keep up with all these characters either.
Sorry
I'll duck. :ohmy:

you and me both I can not keep up with all of them so your not alone LIL

[JackiBlu]

According to Art Harris, Misty has lawyered up.

See post 103 in the Comments Section.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/24/haleigh-cummings-cnns-jane-velez-mitchell/

I must be missing something. I've read that comment and see nothing about Misty having "lawyered up".


JMO

[blink]

Here...go here and read. Lots of info on Nay Nay, Amber, Misty, WBG, and the general yuckiness of their social circle.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/exclusive-misty-cummings-pal-nay-nay-talks/#more-1668

[blink]

I must be missing something. I've read that comment and see nothing about Misty having "lawyered up".


JMO

It's on this page #103

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#comments

[Texas48]

I have a stupid question........ Does Art have a job?
i've seen him on NG and JVM but does what kind of journalist work does he do?there are NO stupid questions FA..someone will have to help with your question thought..cause I have not a clue..lol

[Texas48]

Nay Nay is back in jail. Not sure if her bond was rescinded, or what? She was re-booked this afternoon.


Kristina Renee Prevatt

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753715&IMG=37631hey blink..good to see ya..ty for the link and the updates..with this case one never knows from day to day..kwim? we have NO news..then we have a trickle and then a stream and then a flood..(like the day Ron and Misty announced their marriage)..lol

[JackiBlu]

It's on this page #103

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dads-solid-alibi/#comments

Thank you for the right page!!!!

[blink]

there are NO stupid questions FA..someone will have to help with your question thought..cause I have not a clue..lol

Well, here's his bio page from his blog (more at link) I had never really heard of him before Haleigh's case.

Art Harris…has gone from Nasirya to Neverland…from 13 years with CNN as a two-time Emmy Award-winning investigative correspondent and an embedded reporter in Iraq, to covering Hollywood scoops, scandals and politics for Entertainment Tonight…
http://www.artharris.com/about-art-harris/

[Texas48]

Sounds as though LE knew Haleigh wasn't anywhere in the area from the get-go.that was the first thought I had when TES left..and didn't Tim make a statement..something about..shes not here..?? anyone?

[LILMANMAX]

Here...go here and read. Lots of info on Nay Nay, Amber, Misty, WBG, and the general yuckiness of their social circle.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/exclusive-misty-cummings-pal-nay-nay-talks/#more-1668


Thanx for clearing all this up for me.
And what is going on with the dent in her car?
Good grief.
I need an assistant to help me keep this straight. :confused:

[Texas48]

Why would Cobra revoke her bail if he thinks she's "key" the the case and was going to rehab?maybe..she did not give him the right answers so he sent her back to jail to think it over?

[aproudmom]

Anyone know what she was charged with I know the first charge but was she also arrested the same night with the second charge? if not she could have just got a new charge and that would be why she was re-arrested for SMUGGLE CONTRABAND INTRODUCE INTO DETENTION FACILITY:confused:

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753715&IMG=37631

[Texas48]

I know.. I don't think it's worse, some crimes maybe..but I think it is just reported more. You can read back through the yrs, many many..too many sick/evil people out there. Mentioning the girls may be involved takes me back to that shandra shearer (sp) case. Granted, she was older then Haleigh with different motivations, but the idea that a bunch of young girls would do something so horrific kwim?I know what u mean mom..I think in my case I just don't *want* to believe they could do something like that..Just like I dont want to believe Crystal and Ron could harm Haleigh..But we know it can happen..

[blink]

She we re-booked on the same charges from the 20th.

[Texas48]

Scampi....lol...I am not that Blink! I just have the same nic I guess. I've been thinking in the past few days I should probably change it. Not sure if I can or if I would need to re-register.Oh my..lol..I was thinking u were blink also..well..u are blink..gosh..u know what I mean..lol

[blink]

Bond was revoked Tuesday, April 28, 2009 for Kristina Rene "Nay Nay" Prevatt in Palatka, Florida today.

Escorting Ms. Prevatt to the Putnam County Jail is bondsman/surety agent William "Cobra" Staubs -- the same man who posted her bond Monday, April 20, 2009 when she was arrested along with Amber Brooks in Putnam County on drug charges.

WSKY had cameras rolling at the home where she was staying and at the jail where she is at last word on suicide watch.

more at link
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

[Texas48]

Yep he was hoping she would get out and help find her child and when she did not want to even say her name cha ching back in the Ol slammer
yeppers...ya know what..it didn't help at all keeping KC in jail in hopes she would talk..didn't help her either when Lenny bailed her out..but IMO..KC is one of a kind.. I wounder..if LE..had any reason at all to pick up Misty and keep her several days and nights in a jail cell that it would refresh her memory as to a timeline to the night Haleigh went missing. One may look and act like a tough dude but when they hear the jail cell doors slam shut they become rather meek..IMO

[blink]

Oh my..lol..I was thinking u were blink also..well..u are blink..gosh..u know what I mean..lol

I had no idea who Blink was when I signed up with this nic in Jan 2008 when Court TV did the switch over to InSessions. They wouldn't let me use my old nic, not sure why, and, LOL, I can't even remember what it was now!

:smile:

[LILMANMAX]

Something STINKS here and it isn't a 2 day old banana.

Why would this Renee be on suicide watch? I don't think its drug withdrawal. :wink:

Where is Amber at?
Sounds like she needs to be in jail if she brought Renee's car back with a dent in the trunk. I do not like the sounds of that at all. :sad:

[aproudmom]

Bond was revoked Tuesday, April 28, 2009 for Kristina Rene "Nay Nay" Prevatt in Palatka, Florida today.

Escorting Ms. Prevatt to the Putnam County Jail is bondsman/surety agent William "Cobra" Staubs -- the same man who posted her bond Monday, April 20, 2009 when she was arrested along with Amber Brooks in Putnam County on drug charges.

WSKY had cameras rolling at the home where she was staying and at the jail where she is at last word on suicide watch.

more at link
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Just saw that but was trying to confirm it was true thanks a bunch blink..I seen it but had to find something instead of posting a rumor...also heard this can you confirm this she was going to kidnap her baby?.

[VC2]

Sounds as though LE knew Haleigh wasn't anywhere in the area from the get-go.

I think this is a case of a small town LE who doesn't believe they need any "outside help" be it TES or volunteer searchers. they probably are the same type of ones who complain when the FBI is brought in by a superior officer to give a profile or help out with evidence (and there is lots of evidence that some police forces are like 5that)

There is no excuse whatsoever to request that people searching for a missing little girl stop. It doesn't matter who or what LE thinks happened, she still needs to be found and laid to rest. Evidence will hopefully be on or near her body. Unlike many, i think the whole reason that they have given so little information is they don't have any but want to look like they do.

Furthermore i fully believe that this LE has had the dangerous tendency of a few who decide in right away who must have done it/been involved and spend very little time seriously considering any other theory unless forced to. As posters we all have our pet theories that we stand behind and that is fine. LE should have no pet theory but examine all possibilities equally.

That they don't want haleigh searched for by anyone but themselves shows their arrogance and their ineffectiveness as police officers. NEVER have i heard of LE stopping people or organizations from searching...the family yes, for two good reasons..afraid evidence will be touched, body picked up if found, or they are involved..and even if they are not, just finding it can make them look involved. Not search organizations though. Especially when your case is essentially dead. or at the beginning when time mattered so vitally to evidence.

I am disgusted with this LE

IMO

[blink]

Haleigh's Father, Step Grandfather Under Investigation
(Misty's Dad and Ron Cummings)

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. - Detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff's office has a new investigation underway that involves Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and her step grandfather, Hank Croslin.
In the police report obtained by Action News...Hank Croslin accuses Cummings of regularly supplying him with prescription drugs.

Deputies say it all began about five days ago at the Putnam Communty Medical Center where the sheriff's office had contact with Hank Croslin.

According to the report, Croslin told deputies "Ronald Cummings was trying to kill him."

more at link
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-Father-Step-Grandfather-Under/XZgsuYvyi0mrJUhzsacwjg.cspx

[redgurl]

Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop

http://www.artharris.com/

[Texas48]

suicide watch OMG

I'm starting to think she might have been involved with Haleigh being missing :ohmy:You very well may be right FA and now she is thinking someone is going to turn on her..OH DEAR....nobody can be that tight lipped..and the reward $$..I would think one of this bunch would roll over on one of their relatives for the $$....what could have happened to Haleigh and where is she..just makes you want to kick the curve..kwim?

[LILMANMAX]

suicide watch OMG

I'm starting to think she might have been involved with Haleigh being missing :ohmy:

Lets not forget Amber.
I am very troubled about the dent in the car. Not good at all.
I cannot believe all this MADNESS.
Sounds like to me if either of these gals are involved the LE should be able to make them crack.

JMO

[playnice]

You very well may be right FA and now she is thinking someone is going to turn on her..OH DEAR....nobody can be that tight lipped..and the reward $$..I would think one of this bunch would roll over on one of their relatives for the $$....what could have happened to Haleigh and where is she..just makes you want to kick the curve..kwim?

I wonder if Amber is behind Haleighs disappearance as revenge on Misti and Cobra sent Nay back as a strong message to Amber she had better start talking or she is next?

[LILMANMAX]

This is so much drama i might need one of Crystals Zanex lol


No joke.
I just poured a shot of Disaronno over rox.
I pray Haleigh is alive but with this cast of characters. I cannot imagine they would have a safe house to keep her. :sad:

[blink]

Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop

http://www.artharris.com/

Thanks redgurl.

[LILMANMAX]

I wonder if Amber is behind Haleighs disappearance as revenge on Misti and Cobra sent Nay back as a strong message to Amber she had better start talking or she is next?


And hopefully LE are keeping a watchful eye on that fruitcake. Amber that is.

[playnice]

Haleigh went missing on the eve of Caylees memorial and I still havent ruled out a money scam either. This is one of the very few I feel there is a chance she could be alive but with so many slimy players in all this(family & friends & enemies) I dont know who is responsible.

[aproudmom]

Haleigh's Father, Step Grandfather Under Investigation
(Misty's Dad and Ron Cummings)

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. - Detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff's office has a new investigation underway that involves Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and her step grandfather, Hank Croslin.
In the police report obtained by Action News...Hank Croslin accuses Cummings of regularly supplying him with prescription drugs.

Deputies say it all began about five days ago at the Putnam Communty Medical Center where the sheriff's office had contact with Hank Croslin.

According to the report, Croslin told deputies "Ronald Cummings was trying to kill him."

more at link
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-Father-Step-Grandfather-Under/XZgsuYvyi0mrJUhzsacwjg.cspx

My MY LE are doing something now:thumbup:

[aproudmom]

Haleigh went missing on the eve of Caylees memorial and I still havent ruled out a money scam either. This is one of the very few I feel there is a chance she could be alive but with so many slimy players in all this(family & friends & enemies) I dont know who is responsible.

Hi playnice ITA you can not really rule anything out in this case..

[?noanswer]

Hi FA, I don't know about his "job", but it was reported he did investigative journalism.

I don't know what happened to cause him not to be involved in main stream media anymore, but I think he freelances now more than anything. Course he probably gets a fee each time someone clicks on his web page. JMO

[playnice]

Lets not forget Amber.
I am very troubled about the dent in the car. Not good at all.
I cannot believe all this MADNESS.
Sounds like to me if either of these gals are involved the LE should be able to make them crack.

JMO

Misti took her man and told her that her child was next. who knows. I wouldnt rule anyone of these people out .

[panache]

Exclusive: Haleigh Could Be Alive—-Top Cop

http://www.artharris.com/

Interesting. So Nay Nay's bond was revoked due to her trying to snatch her own child. Thank goodness she failed or we may have had another missing child.

moo

Thanks for the link redgurl

[aproudmom]

This is so much drama i might need one of Crystals Zanex lol

I just took one you want me to send you one..:wink::biggrin:
crazy stuff everyday in this case...

[playnice]

My MY LE are doing something now:thumbup:

Well it appears everyone is starting to turn on each other. :laugh:
Maybe soon this case will break wide open and hopefully with Haleigh alive and her and JR removed from everyone on both sides of this mess of a family they was born into.

[aproudmom]

Interesting. So Nay Nay's bond was revoked due to her trying to snatch her own child. Thank goodness she failed or we may have had another missing child.

moo

Thanks for the link redgurl

does she have custody or someone else..anyone know

[?noanswer]

suicide watch OMG

I'm starting to think she might have been involved with Haleigh being missing :ohmy:

She didn't like Ron, because he didn't want Misty hanging out with her. Amber's mom & Amber didn't like Misty . This is really the first people that could have a motive to do something to get back at Ron & Misty. If they are involved, sure hope Haleigh is ok.

I thought Cobra said Nay Nay was going to get her child back when he bailed her out. Don't know what happened there. JMO

[BobbysGirl]

She we re-booked on the same charges from the 20th.

HI, cleaning and gleaning the boards.

So, Nay-Nay rebooked back in. Something not right.

IMO, after listening to Cobra's audio, Nay must have violated her conditions. I don't know much about these things. If her bond revoked, it does not show on the booking.

Cobra was talking about her, Amber, rehab etc and they both have a child but basically run the drug gamut. (like street people).

Coud be Nay-Nay said she would go to rehab and then left. And possible, she was being watched. Out there meeting druggies, and using and dealing and got busted.

Maybe, more charges will be brought up.

This is all too confusing and disturbing. Haleigh needs to come home. I pray she is alive. I don't know. LE is very tight lipped. Which surprises me. I trust them, I know laws are very different in states.

Something really feels bad. I don't know how to explain it.

IMO, I have bad feeling something is going to break, and it will not be pleasant. Drugs, porn, sex, child/teen abuse etc. Nothing surprises me any more.

Prayers go out to Haleigh, Sandra and all the other lost children. Some who may never be found. It breaks my heart. :rose: For all lost children.

We need the children to come home and the perps and preverts out there brought to justice.

IMOO

BG

[JackiBlu]

My MY LE are doing something now:thumbup:

Sounds like Hank Croslin has a history of abusing drugs. The last paragraph in the article makes me wonder; Putnam County Sheriff's office would not confirm if they are investigating Croslin for filing a false police report.


JMO

[aproudmom]

OFGS can this get any more crazier..if true what are these people doing IMO they need to take these kids no one in any of this mess knows how to parent a child...47 year old how old is this nay nay 19?

Prevatt was back in the Putnam County Jail Tuesday, on suicide watch with a mandatory 72 hour hold for her own safety, the captain told me. She was rebooked after William Staubs, aka “Cobra,” pro bono private eye and bounty hunter, tracked her to a “filthy” Palatka crash pad, and announced he was revoking her $2,400 bond on drug charges. He’d bailed her out last week with Amber Brooks, a former Ronald Cummings ex, who remains free on bond, then learned she’d tried to allegedly snatch her own child, a nine month old girl named Destiny, from the father, Donovan Spells, 47. :rolleyes:

[titanfan217]

Does Cobra get any of his money back? He was looking for cash earlier.

[nana6]

suicide watch OMG

I'm starting to think she might have been involved with Haleigh being missing :ohmy:

Hi Fallen, ITA with you that is exactly what I t hought too when reading that post. Suicide watch- now there must be a very good reason.imo

[?noanswer]

Does Cobra get any of his money back? He was looking for cash earlier.


I don't know. LP didn't get his back. The way I see it, it is sorta like they buy an insurance policy guaranteeing that the defendant will not skip out on a court date. JMO

[AmndaRcknwth]

Thanks blink.

I actually feel bad for her. These girls are so young to be involved in things so serious.

Who has her child? Anyone know?

The child's father, age 47.

[nana6]

Well it appears everyone is starting to turn on each other. :laugh:
Maybe soon this case will break wide open and hopefully with Haleigh alive and her and JR removed from everyone on both sides of this mess of a family they was born into.

Hi Play, right. I said a long time ago Get them all in there in seperate rooms and tell them that each has turned on the other. Then see what happens.

[aproudmom]

Sounds like Hank Croslin has a history of abusing drugs. The last paragraph in the article makes me wonder; Putnam County Sheriff's office would not confirm if they are investigating Croslin for filing a false police report.


JMO

If he did then he needs to be investigated this whole thing is like a Jerry Springer show IMO

[?noanswer]

Thanks blink.

I actually feel bad for her. These girls are so young to be involved in things so serious.

Who has her child? Anyone know?

I feel sorry for all these children that are involved in this. They didn't ask to be born and live a life like this. One of the articles I just read said the 47 yo father had the child. JMO

[panache]

Haleigh's Father, Step Grandfather Under Investigation
(Misty's Dad and Ron Cummings)

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. - Detectives with the Putnam County Sheriff's office has a new investigation underway that involves Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and her step grandfather, Hank Croslin.
In the police report obtained by Action News...Hank Croslin accuses Cummings of regularly supplying him with prescription drugs.

Deputies say it all began about five days ago at the Putnam Communty Medical Center where the sheriff's office had contact with Hank Croslin.

According to the report, Croslin told deputies "Ronald Cummings was trying to kill him."

more at link
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-Father-Step-Grandfather-Under/XZgsuYvyi0mrJUhzsacwjg.cspx

Am I reading this correctly, Ron's attys. talked to Hank Croslin or attempted to?

[playnice]

They will have to start up an orphanage in Putman county and round up all these babies that should be removed from these people. I havent seen anyone yet involved in this case that are fit to be parents. These kids deserve so much more than what they are getting. Its heartbreaking. :sad:

[?noanswer]

Am I reading this correctly, Ron's attys. talked to Hank Croslin or attempted to?

That's what the article said, so you pass on your reading comprehension! JMO

[JackiBlu]

does she have custody or someone else..anyone know


According to Art Harris the baby is with the father. Also says the father is 47 years old.

He’d bailed her out last week with Amber Brooks, a former Ronald Cummings ex, who remains free on bond, then learned she’d tried to allegedly snatch her own child, a nine month old girl named Destiny, from the father, Donovan Spells, 47. http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755

What in the heck is a 47 year old doing with her....wow crazy.

JMO

[aproudmom]

Am I reading this correctly, Ron's attys. talked to Hank Croslin or attempted to?

Why would he want to kill his new wife's father is my question do they not get along?

[?noanswer]

Why would he want to kill his new wife's father is my question do they not get along?


It looks like no one in this saga gets along. I am also curious as to how KP and Cobra was able to get to Crystal so soon after her accident. JMO

[Ice Cycle]

Why would he want to kill his new wife's father is my question do they not get along?

Yes that does not make sense, especially with him being investigated. But it does make me wonder if RC was not freely giving out drugs to people- and of course the thought occurred to me about Haleigh and the night before that Misty had a problem getting her to sleep. Wondering if that was their solution.

[aproudmom]

According to Art Harris the baby is with the father. Also says the father is 47 years old.

He’d bailed her out last week with Amber Brooks, a former Ronald Cummings ex, who remains free on bond, then learned she’d tried to allegedly snatch her own child, a nine month old girl named Destiny, from the father, Donovan Spells, 47. http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755

What in the heck is a 47 year old doing with her....wow crazy.

JMO

I saw that after I ask..thank you and yeah 47 what is up with these people

[?noanswer]

Well, yeah, that goes without saying about the children. But I felt bad for Nay Nay too watching that video.

When she said, I didn't kidnap her, I thought she meant Haleigh but after reading the other link, it's clear she meant her own baby.

WTH is she doing with a 47 yr old man? That's just sick, imo.

He might have been supplying her with drugs. JMO

[JackiBlu]

someone posted a picture of him and ron together last night and they looked like they got along.

That is why I was wondering about the statement of Croslin possibly filing a false police report.

JMO

[aproudmom]

Yes that does not make sense, especially with him being investigated. But it does make me wonder if RC was not freely giving out drugs to people- and of course the thought occurred to me about Haleigh and the night before that Misty had a problem getting her to sleep. Wondering if that was their solution.

JVM has this on her show it is getting ready to start...

I am in aw I can not beleive all this crazy stuff..I said last night they both could get in trouble..for the whole pill thing if true

[?noanswer]

Well, yeah, that goes without saying about the children. But I felt bad for Nay Nay too watching that video.

When she said, I didn't kidnap her, I thought she meant Haleigh but after reading the other link, it's clear she meant her own baby.

WTH is she doing with a 47 yr old man? That's just sick, imo.

Yes it is sad that Nay Nay is in a bad situation, but she at least should have had a choice not to live this life style. She supposedly told Cobra she would go to drug rehab as soon as they had a bed, but looks like she went back to the same lifestyle. JMO

[aproudmom]

JVM on right now..

[panache]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

video of Nay Nay and Cobra

[aproudmom]

Yes it is sad that Nay Nay is in a bad situation, but she at least should have had a choice not to live this life style. She supposedly told Cobra she would go to drug rehab as soon as they had a bed, but looks like she went back to the same lifestyle. JMO

that is the problem these people should put their kids first..I am sorry I do not feel sorry for people that are on drugs and someone offers help and you go right back to doing the same thing I have never done drugs but I am a mom and have put them first and I was a 18 when I had my first son..they all need help and perhaps the father has the child because she likes her drugs...jmo..I feel sorry for these kids not these parents..

[blink]

The child's father, age 47.

47. Shades of Drew Peterson. Ack. What is with these young girls and these old men?

[aproudmom]

Sounds like a grown man stupid enough to swallow an unknown drug then blame someone else for his own idiocy. :thumbdown:

IMO, as always.

:thumbdown:to all of them

[aproudmom]

47. Shades of Drew Peterson. Ack. What is with these young girls and these old men?

:scared:omg no not another Peterson

[BobbysGirl]

that is the problem these people should put their kids first..I am sorry I do not feel sorry for people that are on drugs and someone offers help and you go right back to doing the same thing I have never done drugs but I am a mom and have put them first and I was a 18 when I had my first son..they all need help and perhaps the father has the child because she likes her drugs...jmo..I feel sorry for these kids not these parents..

I got lost. Trying to muti-task and keep up. Caylee board now shut down.

I agree with what you are saying. Makes me sick, raises my BP.

BG

[aproudmom]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

video of Nay Nay and Cobra

man she is skinny..

[AmndaRcknwth]

Well, one thing with Drew, he has better taste in women.

[Themis]

They will have to start up an orphanage in Putman county and round up all these babies that should be removed from these people. I havent seen anyone yet involved in this case that are fit to be parents. These kids deserve so much more than what they are getting. Its heartbreaking. :sad:
It is heartbreaking, PlayNice! All these children who have such little chance because of the lifestyle that goes back for generations. I truly cannot think of any relatives on either side that are suitable to raise Haleigh and Junior. I cannot help but think of all the couples who are desperate for a child; cannot have one of their own and the adoption waiting lists are so long. There are literally thousands of couples who could give these children a decent upbringing. [JMO * Themis]

[BobbysGirl]

Darn it. Gotta cook. BBL

BG

[aproudmom]

I got lost. Trying to muti-task and keep up. Caylee board now shut down.

I agree with what you are saying. Makes me sick, raises my BP.

BG

lol I cant keep up with all of them either have not even had time to get on caylee's since Sandra Cantu...plus there is a lot of fighting over there and I don't want to get in trouble...lol

[aproudmom]

Well, one thing with Drew, he has better taste in women.

:thumbsup:ITA..

[blink]

Well, one thing with Drew, he has better taste in women.

All these girls have a lot in common. Truly questionable upbringing and what they were exposed to as children from their parents. Sad. A perpetual cycle of dysfunction.

Hi Manda! :beer:

[aproudmom]

It is heartbreaking, PlayNice! All these children who have such little chance because of the lifestyle that goes back for generations. I truly cannot think of any relatives on either side that are suitable to raise Haleigh and Junior. I cannot help but think of all the couples who are desperate for a child; cannot have one of their own and the adoption waiting lists are so long. There are literally thousands of couples who could give these children a decent upbringing. [JMO * Themis]

ITA with you and playnice these kids are the ones who suffer and so many want kids and cant have them..my aunt had to adopt a child from Romania and my Lil sis can not have children..they would love to have that chance and these people are not fit to be a parent IMO

[aproudmom]

So I wonder why nay nays child's father did not call LE and make a report if this did happen

Picazio tells me Prevatt apparently snapped Monday when she saw another woman holding Destiny outside the father’s house and tried to wrestle the baby from her and the father. She was in the car with her mother.

“Drive, hurry up and drive!” she was yelling at her mother as she engaged in a dangerous tug of war for the baby, according to Picazio.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Yikes!

Nay Nay has a baby with a 47 year old man .. who I am guessing is the "guardian" .. and she tried to take her baby back, sent suicide texts and is now back in jail and on suicide watch?



Watching her on the video, i could not help but feel sorry for her .. sounds like she still did drugs and that was the cause of her bond being revoked ... do they drug test?

Such a sad group of people ... and still no Haleigh

[TaraCrazyHair]

The other day Cobra said Nay Nay and Amber are key to this haleigh being missing, then the day after that Art said Ron has an solid alibi and telling his commenters not to believe internet rumors and now Nay Nay on suicide watch and the LE are now saying Haleigh might be alive after some new things they've found out........I think Art, Cobra and the LE might know what's going on. Then again this might all be bull stuffies.


MOO

I think Cobra, Art, TJ et all are convinced somebody has Haleigh ... and that looks like what they are pursuing is on that basis

However, I do not think Nay Nay and suicide watch are related to Haleigh

moo

[panache]

Well, one thing with Drew, he has better taste in women.

Amanda

Your great with links. I once had an article about Nay Nay and Donovan. Did you happen to see it? IRC Donovon was the lesser of two evils for custody of the baby.

moo

[aproudmom]

Yikes!

Nay Nay has a baby with a 47 year old man .. who I am guessing is the "guardian" .. and she tried to take her baby back, sent suicide texts and is now back in jail and on suicide watch?



Watching her on the video, i could not help but feel sorry for her .. sounds like she still did drugs and that was the cause of her bond being revoked ... do they drug test?

Such a sad group of people ... and still no Haleigh

I would think that was one of her stipulations of getting out to not do drugs and be tested

[aproudmom]

I think Cobra, Art, TJ et all are convinced somebody has Haleigh ... and that looks like what they are pursuing is on that basis

However, I do not think Nay Nay and suicide watch are related to Haleigh

moo

I am thinking the same Tara she was said to have been upset over her baby and sent a text saying that..don't think it is over Haleigh

[legalmania]

This song is for all the verbally and physical abused children out there. Being a good parent is not that hard.

----------------
Now playing: Crosby, Stills & Nash - Teach Your Children (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/crosby_stills_nash/track/teach_your_children)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[TaraCrazyHair]

Amanda

Your great with links. I once had an article about Nay Nay and Donovan. Did you happen to see it? IRC Donovon was the lesser of two evils for custody of the baby.

moo

Is this him?

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=731793&IMG=48613

[LILMANMAX]

Sounds like to me Hank is scrambling to cover his tracks for the drugs he ingested. No telling what he had at his house. I feel quite sure one pill did not make him OD. If he was in the shape they say, he was toasted and had been popping, snorting, smoking, drinking, etc God only knows what. Wonder what was found in his system at the hospital? Good grief. :rolleyes:

RC is an idiot for passing anything around. JMO

[panache]

I think Cobra, Art, TJ et all are convinced somebody has Haleigh ... and that looks like what they are pursuing is on that basis

However, I do not think Nay Nay and suicide watch are related to Haleigh

moo

Why would Kim P. take such an interest in Nay Nay if thats' the case?

[panache]

Is this him?

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=731793&IMG=48613

It looks like him. Right age.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Why would Kim P. take such an interest in Nay Nay if thats' the case?

Not sure .. just another member of the drug infested circle of people that sadly surrounded Haleigh

[AmndaRcknwth]

Amanda

Your great with links. I once had an article about Nay Nay and Donovan. Did you happen to see it? IRC Donovon was the lesser of two evils for custody of the baby.

moo

TY. I don't exactly remember it. But I will look around, and if I find anything I will post it.

[aproudmom]

This song is for all the verbally and physical abused children out there. Being a good parent is not that hard.

----------------
Now playing: Crosby, Stills & Nash - Teach Your Children (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/crosby_stills_nash/track/teach_your_children)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

aw thanks legal
and no it is not hard to be a good parent..

[Themis]

Sounds like to me Hank is scrambling to cover his tracks for the drugs he ingested. No telling what he had at his house. I feel quite sure one pill did not make him OD. If he was in the shape they say, he was toasted and had been popping, snorting, smoking, drinking, etc God only knows what. Wonder what was found in his system at the hospital? Good grief. :rolleyes:

RC is an idiot for passing anything around. JMO
ITA, Ron is an idiot if he actually did give prescription drugs. But then he has done a lot of idiot things in his life, and he was raised by a woman who appears to be the most stable of the entire group that are now in the picture ... and then there is her daughter. [JMO * Themis]

[TaraCrazyHair]

It looks like him. Right age.

LOL .. how in the world was he the better "parent" with drug charges among other things in his RAP sheet not to mention at least 7 paternity suits?

My Oh My

Who found a link that he was the lesser of two evils?

[JackiBlu]

I think Cobra, Art, TJ et all are convinced somebody has Haleigh ... and that looks like what they are pursuing is on that basis

However, I do not think Nay Nay and suicide watch are related to Haleigh

moo


I think Nay Nay is on suicide watch because of what she said to Cobra when she was arrested again. Per Art Harris; Cobra said Nay Nay cried and screamed that she would die in jail.

My dh was a corrections officer (now retired) and anyone booked into jail that says anything close to wanting to die or they will die, is put on suicide watch.

JMO

[Themis]

Not sure .. just another member of the drug infested circle of people that sadly surrounded Haleigh
Yes, and who will continue to surround Haleigh if she returns home. And if, sadly, she does not, there is still Junior to think about. These are the people who will float in and out of his life from now on. There is no doubt in my mind about that. [JMO * Themis]

[panache]

LOL .. how in the world was he the better "parent" with drug charges among other things in his RAP sheet not to mention at least 7 paternity suits?

My Oh My

Who found a link that he was the lesser of two evils?

I'm relying on Amanda to come thru. I spent an hour searching for the article, put out feelers, etc. I know 7 paternity suits is mind boggling.

[nana6]

This song is for all the verbally and physical abused children out there. Being a good parent is not that hard.

----------------
Now playing: Crosby, Stills & Nash - Teach Your Children (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/crosby_stills_nash/track/teach_your_children)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

Good one. I also love Cat's In The Cradle I think that is the name

[Themis]

I think Nay Nay is on suicide watch because of what she said to Cobra when she was arrested again. Per Art Harris; Cobra said Nay Nay cried and screamed that she would die in jail.

My dh was a corrections officer (now retired) and anyone booked into jail that says anything close to wanting to die or they will die, is put on suicide watch.

JMO
Yeah, she is screaming for attention and hoping she will be better treated by staff because they feel 'sorry' for her.
Me? I'd put her on daily toilet cleaning duty - 8 hours a day. [JMO * Themis]

[panache]

Yes, and who will continue to surround Haleigh if she returns home. And if, sadly, she does not, there is still Junior to think about. These are the people who will float in and out of his life from now on. There is no doubt in my mind about that. [JMO * Themis]

That is so sad to think about Themis. The cycle continues from generation to generation.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think Nay Nay is on suicide watch because of what she said to Cobra when she was arrested again. Per Art Harris; Cobra said Nay Nay cried and screamed that she would die in jail.

My dh was a corrections officer (now retired) and anyone booked into jail that says anything close to wanting to die or they will die, is put on suicide watch.

JMO


Cobra did say "you will get the help you need" so i assume that means rehab

My question is ... Does suicide texts equal a flight risk? (weird if so)

What might have been her flight risk?

[seeker]

Bond was revoked Tuesday, April 28, 2009 for Kristina Rene "Nay Nay" Prevatt in Palatka, Florida today.

Escorting Ms. Prevatt to the Putnam County Jail is bondsman/surety agent William "Cobra" Staubs -- the same man who posted her bond Monday, April 20, 2009 when she was arrested along with Amber Brooks in Putnam County on drug charges.

WSKY had cameras rolling at the home where she was staying and at the jail where she is at last word on suicide watch.

more at link
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

<bolding mine>

This is very troubling to hear.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Yeah, she is screaming for attention and hoping she will be better treated by staff because they feel 'sorry' for her.
Me? I'd put her on daily toilet cleaning duty - 8 hours a day. [JMO * Themis]

Maybe somebody needs to feel sorry for her so she can begin to live a real life

She is far too young to give up on

Moo

[JackiBlu]

Cobra did say "you will get the help you need" so i assume that means rehab

My question is ... Does suicide texts equal a flight risk? (weird if so)

What might have been her flight risk?

Don't know about the flight risk. Unless she was trying to figure out how to get her baby and leave town. Who knows....all of this is just crazy.

JMO

[calamitygirl]

Yes, and who will continue to surround Haleigh if she returns home. And if, sadly, she does not, there is still Junior to think about. These are the people who will float in and out of his life from now on. There is no doubt in my mind about that. [JMO * Themis]

And sadder to say is that it happens everywhere.

[Themis]

Maybe somebody needs to feel sorry for her so she can begin to live a real life

She is far too young to give up on

Moo
Well, IMO, she didn't just start doing cocaine at her current age of 19. I would bet real money her juvenile record is 2 inches thick. She has had authorities feel sorry for her for past problems and has been given a pass or help offered and/or given time and time again.
She just blew a golden opportunity for a few days ago in being bailed and given another chance at rehab. She had a choice. There won't be many left to her. She is now an adult and felony record is a new file. Starting 'tough love' at this point in time and at her age provides only a slim chance she won't see the inside of a prison before she hits 25. [JMO * Themis]

P.S. Depending on the locale county jail can be fairly easy on the inmates. It is laughed off by quite a few. Others wear the badge proudly -- until ......

[aproudmom]

LOL .. how in the world was he the better "parent" with drug charges among other things in his RAP sheet not to mention at least 7 paternity suits?

My Oh My

Who found a link that he was the lesser of two evils?

where did you see all that the link I just looked at was for driving with no licence:confused:
322.34-3 DRIVING WHILE LICENSE CANCELED SUSPENDED

[blink]

OMG.......these people should not be having children. Period.

This man has several paternity suits against him? How in the world does he have custody of this baby??????

I need to tape my mouth shut.

[aproudmom]

Maybe somebody needs to feel sorry for her so she can begin to live a real life

She is far too young to give up on

Moo

I am sure she could have a bigger rap sheet we just don't know about it since she could have been a minor at the time...and seems like she was not out trying to get help so no I do not feel sorry for her are we suppose to ok all these kids having kids doing drugs I am sick of feeling sorry for people who put them self before their kids..they did not ask to be brought into this world and we are to protect our children not put them in danger and shame on CPS for allowing kids to stay in homes with parents that fail to fix their problems..who pays the children..what does it take another child to go missing or hurt or born with drugs in their system..not that hers was but sure seems there is alot of sick kids in the crazy messed up dysfunctional families..you better believe I would fight like heck to get my grand-kids if my children were not taking care of them.....ALL JMO...sorry I feel sorry for no one..and what the heck does her and her old ex have to do with Haleigh is my question...you can not help someone that does not want to help themself..ALL JMO

[Themis]

OMG.......these people should not be having children. Period.

This man has several paternity suits against him? How in the world does he have custody of this baby??????

I need to tape my mouth shut.
And if this mature adult man has custody of this baby one can imagine how bad her record is. [JMO * Themis]

[TaraCrazyHair]

I am sure she could have a bigger rap sheet we just don't know about it since she could have been a minor at the time...and seems like she was not out trying to get help so no I do not feel sorry for her are we suppose to ok all these kids having kids doing drugs I am sick of feeling sorry for people who put them self before their kids..they did not ask to be brought into this world and we are to protect our children not put them in danger and shame on CPS for allowing kids to stay in homes with parents that fail to fix their problems..who pays the children..what does it take another child to go missing or hurt or born with drugs in their system..not that hers was but sure seems there is alot of sick kids in the crazy messed up dysfunctional families..you better believe I would fight like heck to get my grand-kids if my children were not taking care of them.....ALL JMO...sorry I feel sorry for no one..and what the heck does her and her old ex have to do with Haleigh is my question...you can not help someone that does not want to help themself..ALL JMO

Young children who screw up need mentors to set them straight or the cycle continues

Apparently she had no serious mentor (not even her 47 year old baby daddy)

Yes, I feel for her and I always have hope the young can change (They are our future after all)

What does this all have to do with Haleigh? Not certain

Could be nothing .. could be everything

[TaraCrazyHair]

And if this mature adult man has custody of this baby one can imagine how bad her record is. [JMO * Themis]

That is IF he is the guardian

Has that been confirmed?

[aproudmom]

OMG.......these people should not be having children. Period.

This man has several paternity suits against him? How in the world does he have custody of this baby??????

I need to tape my mouth shut.

Seems like no one really cares in the court system down there they just hand the kids off to who ever they want.who should they give the child to? is he taking care of his kids are all 7 his? just wondered cause this is the first I have heard of this guy and still have no clue what he has to do with Haleigh..jmo:confused:

[blink]

In this day and age of advanced birth control methods, why in the world aren't these girls, who seem to love to party, drugs, etc., first in line for it? In order to sustain their preferred lifestyle, I would think they would seek it out. Especially the long term birth control.

:cuss:

[seeker]

Well, yeah, that goes without saying about the children. But I felt bad for Nay Nay too watching that video.

When she said, I didn't kidnap her, I thought she meant Haleigh but after reading the other link, it's clear she meant her own baby.

WTH is she doing with a 47 yr old man? That's just sick, imo.

I get the sense that this young girl is being used. I don't know by whom, but it was either bad reporting or humans behaving badly if Art Harris's article is correct: Taken to jail because of suicidal thoughts; why not to the hospital? The article says that investigators immediately began questioning this "suicidal" young girl.

In the article it says, according to a distraught text message regarding seeing her baby in another woman's arms, than forwarded to Cobra, HE went and had Kristina taken in to the police station.

It is probably way too early to know the truth, or all of it, but seeing her face, her confusion, and her fear was heart-wrenching. Any sincere person believing another to be suicidal, should have quietly, without cameras, taken her straight to a psychiatric hospital, in my humble opinion.

[aproudmom]

Young children who screw up need mentors to set them straight or the cycle continues

Apparently she had no serious mentor (not even her 47 year old baby daddy)

Yes, I feel for her and I always have hope the young can change (They are our future after all)

What does this all have to do with Haleigh? Not certain

Could be nothing .. could be everything

K is all I have to say..she is not my child..and unless someone can tell me she or her baby daddy had something to do with the child that is missing I really don't care to talk about nay nay or her baby daddy..guess the men are better parents there seems they get the kids..and not sure how old she is or how old her child is but why are these men allowed to even walk the streets if they are with minors which is once again against the law...seems they overlook alot in that town...jmo

[Themis]

In this day and age of advanced birth control methods, why in the world aren't these girls, who seem to love to party, drugs, etc., first in line for it? In order to sustain their preferred lifestyle, I would think they would seek it out. Especially the long term birth control.

:cuss:
You must be able to read my mind, Blink!:smile: I have thought the same thing over and over. Partying, drugs, drinking, multiple sex partners, etc. Why would these teen girls want to take on the really hard, long term commitment of raising a child and all that it entails. They cannot say they did not or do not know. The knowledge is all around them. The accessibility is all around them. Additionally, why are they putting their very life at risk (HIV/AIDS) not to mention the various STDs they are exposing themselves to. [JMO * Themis]

[TaraCrazyHair]

K is all I have to say..she is not my child..and unless someone can tell me she or her baby daddy had something to do with the child that is missing I really don't care to talk about nay nay or her baby daddy..guess the men are better parents there seems they get the kids..and not sure how old she is or how old her child is but why are these men allowed to even walk the streets if they are with minors which is once again against the law...seems they overlook alot in that town...jmo

My advice is only to keep your teenage daughter out of Florida

(shrug)

[seeker]

Sounds like a grown man stupid enough to swallow an unknown drug then blame someone else for his own idiocy. :thumbdown:

IMO, as always.

it also sounds like a younger man who has denied drug use, passing out a variety of controlled substances. my strong opinion.

[BobbysGirl]

That is so sad to think about Themis. The cycle continues from generation to generation.

I agree the cycle continues. All it takes is one family member to go into recovery; stay drug and alcohol free.
Then IMO the cycle changes. Obvious to me, nothing has changed. FWIW

BG

[aproudmom]

Well I am seeing just why I stopped coming to this thread every night it is who is the better parent the last time I checked there is still that child's name on this thread Missing her name is Haleigh Cummings..not RC, CS, nay nay baby daddy, Misty C. AB..and it is very sad cause I seem to hardly see this child being talked about it is all about who is pro RC or pro CS..not Haleigh..so I will go for now and pray this child is found and when or if she is alive she is somewhere safe along with all these kids...all jmo we all have one..

good night to all..not bashing anyone one person just so sick of hearing this night after night and this baby is still not found and we are all taking about some dude who had 7 dna test:confused: if anyone post with me they know I do not try to start problems it is not in me..so I just move on...

Pray for this child :rose:

[Hannah21]

I get the sense that this young girl is being used. I don't know by whom, but it was either bad reporting or humans behaving badly if Art Harris's article is correct: Taken to jail because of suicidal thoughts; why not to the hospital? The article says that investigators immediately began questioning this "suicidal" young girl.

In the article it says, according to a distraught text message regarding seeing her baby in another woman's arms, than forwarded to Cobra, HE went and had Kristina taken in to the police station.

It is probably way too early to know the truth, or all of it, but seeing her face, her confusion, and her fear was heart-wrenching. Any sincere person believing another to be suicidal, should have quietly, without cameras, taken her straight to a psychiatric hospital, in my humble opinion.

I agree. There is something wrong with this picture. Cobra is up to something. He promised to help her now he is revoking her bond. Something is going on. I don't think she knows what happen. If she is suicidal she should be in a hospital.

[BobbysGirl]

Well I am seeing just why I stopped coming to this thread every night it is who is the better parent the last time I checked there is still that child's name on this thread Missing her name is Haleigh Cummings..not RC, CS, nay nay baby daddy, Misty C. AB..and it is very sad cause I seem to hardly see this child being talked about it is all about who is pro RC or pro CS..not Haleigh..so I will go for now and pray this child is found and when or if she is alive she is somewhere safe along with all these kids...all jmo we all have one..

good night to all..not bashing anyone one person just so sick of hearing this night after night and this baby is still not found and we are all taking about some dude who had 7 dna test:confused: if anyone post with me they know I do not try to start problems it is not in me..so I just move on...

Pray for this child :rose:

:rose: Prayers do work. Good night.

BG

[blink]

You must be able to read my mind, Blink!:smile: I have thought the same thing over and over. Partying, drugs, drinking, multiple sex partners, etc. Why would these teen girls want to take on the really hard, long term commitment of raising a child and all that it entails. They cannot say they did not or do not know. The knowledge is all around them. The accessibility is all around them. Additionally, why are they putting their very life at risk (HIV/AIDS) not to mention the various STDs they are exposing themselves to. [JMO * Themis]

It's mind boggling Themis. If the kind of birth control methods that are available now were available when I was younger, hell's bells, I would have sought them out in a heartbeat. And you are right. The info is available ALL OVER the place. From schools, the internet, etc.

[Hannah21]

You must be able to read my mind, Blink!:smile: I have thought the same thing over and over. Partying, drugs, drinking, multiple sex partners, etc. Why would these teen girls want to take on the really hard, long term commitment of raising a child and all that it entails. They cannot say they did not or do not know. The knowledge is all around them. The accessibility is all around them. Additionally, why are they putting their very life at risk (HIV/AIDS) not to mention the various STDs they are exposing themselves to. [JMO * Themis]

I have never heard of any missing persons case, adult or child, in which every single person you hear about surrounding the case is hooked on drugs, sex with multiple partners and babies they don't take care of.

Where are these young girls parents? It makes me wonder what kind of homes they were raised in.

[calamitygirl]

You must be able to read my mind, Blink!:smile: I have thought the same thing over and over. Partying, drugs, drinking, multiple sex partners, etc. Why would these teen girls want to take on the really hard, long term commitment of raising a child and all that it entails. They cannot say they did not or do not know. The knowledge is all around them. The accessibility is all around them. Additionally, why are they putting their very life at risk (HIV/AIDS) not to mention the various STDs they are exposing themselves to. [JMO * Themis]

I am going to go out on a limb here, but I think it fall somewhere under the category of a drunk leaving a bar and getting behind the wheel.

[calamitygirl]

My advice is only to keep your teenage daughter out of Florida

(shrug)

Tara , it is not just Florida. Its everywhere.

[~jomomma~]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

video of Nay Nay and Cobra

hmmm, for some reason i can't view this video. i just get the box with something in the top left corner of it. i don't know why?

i haven't posted here in quite a while but try to read as much as i can.
this is crazy!

[TaraCrazyHair]

Well I am seeing just why I stopped coming to this thread every night it is who is the better parent the last time I checked there is still that child's name on this thread Missing her name is Haleigh Cummings..not RC, CS, nay nay baby daddy, Misty C. AB..and it is very sad cause I seem to hardly see this child being talked about it is all about who is pro RC or pro CS..not Haleigh..so I will go for now and pray this child is found and when or if she is alive she is somewhere safe along with all these kids...all jmo we all have one..

good night to all..not bashing anyone one person just so sick of hearing this night after night and this baby is still not found and we are all taking about some dude who had 7 dna test:confused: if anyone post with me they know I do not try to start problems it is not in me..so I just move on...

Pray for this child :rose:


I agree -- I pop in and it always about custody, drugs, arrests and nothing about Haleigh yet I can see how this lifestyle led by the people at the front of this case (Ron and Misty) and the involvement of the circle could be an answer to where she is keeps me checking in

Somebody knows something .. there is a reason it is a little girl taken and not little JR

Add that up with all the remarks and comments from Ron (some very puzzling ones to say the least) since Feb 10th ... answers lie within this group of people



I guess that is why I still check in despite the drama

[calamitygirl]

it also sounds like a younger man who has denied drug use, passing out a variety of controlled substances. my strong opinion.


I thought I heard it was one pill. But don't recall what kind. And no money was exchanged?

[panache]

I understand Ron's attys. were scheduled to be on JVM tonight but cancelled to meet with LE's Task Force. I wonder what they intended to say on JVM, however very curious what the Task Force meeting is all about.

moo

[TaraCrazyHair]

I understand Ron's attys. were scheduled to be on JVM tonight but cancelled to meet with LE's Task Force. I wonder what they intended to say on JVM, however very curious what the Task Force meeting is all about.

moo

maybe about drugs

That is usually what it is about

[seeker]

I thought I heard it was one pill. But don't recall what kind. And no money was exchanged?

"According to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department deputy, who answered the call the weekend before last, “Hank said that he regularly gets prescription pills from Ronald, including xanex and roxicet.” "

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743

[panache]

I agree with you. It was disturbing to watch.

Maybe Cobra felt it was a good time to put some pressure on her. He did say that Amber and Renee were the key to finding Haleigh. Right now, I'm not impressed with his tactics but if they get results I'll probably change my mind.

I think Cobra did the right thing today and revoked Nay's bail. She's safer where she is than where she was staying. Cobra described it as a filty,rotten place. (paraphrased). Probably a place where drug users crash.

moo

[panache]

"According to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department deputy, who answered the call the weekend before last, “Hank said that he regularly gets prescription pills from Ronald, including xanex and roxicet.” "

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743

Where is Ron getting all these meds?

[seeker]

I agree with you. It was disturbing to watch.

Maybe Cobra felt it was a good time to put some pressure on her. He did say that Amber and Renee were the key to finding Haleigh. Right now, I'm not impressed with his tactics but if they get results I'll probably change my mind.

Doesn't a young girl's life trump tactics?

Not to be argumentative, but what about the fact that they mention a 72-hour (psychiatric) hold at the jail? Why isn't she in a hospital, under the care of physcians and psychiatrists? That is disturbing.

my opinion

[calamitygirl]

Where is Ron getting all these meds?

Right now he is probably on nerve medicine. I know I would be.

[CANDYKISSES]

Sounds like Hank Croslin has a history of abusing drugs. The last paragraph in the article makes me wonder; Putnam County Sheriff's office would not confirm if they are investigating Croslin for filing a false police report.


JMO

Couple that with the needing FUNDS for COBRA as alleged on Art's site and that may be the real reason Cobra went back on the bail IMOO.

I don't doubt anything with this wild bunch, but it's awfully CONVENIENT that NAYNAY is back in the pokey whilst Amber is still out there doing her thing. JMO:ohmy:

[seeker]

Where is Ron getting all these meds?

Great Question!

[calamitygirl]

"According to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department deputy, who answered the call the weekend before last, “Hank said that he regularly gets prescription pills from Ronald, including xanex and roxicet.” "

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/exclusive-ronald-cummings-tried-to-kill-me/#more-1743

A grown man taking a pill on his own. No sympathy from me.

[CANDYKISSES]

I thought I heard it was one pill. But don't recall what kind. And no money was exchanged?

Allegedly, IF YOU BELIEVE ART, Hank was claiming to have ingested one pill and later was told by his own son, that it was a muscle relaxant IIRC.

But later claims that he gets roxicet and xanax from Ron regularly IIRC.

Now after that big bust, it's hard to believe they wouldn't have honed in on Ron if you ask me. :confused: I might even think he'd be on their list of checks and balances with the bust given they need leverage with him to possibly get to Misty....prior to her getting an attorney IF INDEED SHE HAS DONE SO AS ALLEGED BY ART HARRIS again....:sneaky:

jmo

[AmndaRcknwth]

hmmm, for some reason i can't view this video. i just get the box with something in the top left corner of it. i don't know why?

i haven't posted here in quite a while but try to read as much as i can.
this is crazy!

It is saved here, you should be able to watch:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=009-1.flv


panache...
I'm sorry, I failed. I read as much as my eyes could stand and found nothing at all for the 'why' Donevan has custody of Destiny.


But... I did find a video of Hurtin' Hank from early on, back in Feb. It is the one where Misty's family is throwing cousin Joe under the bus. Hank had just been in a car crash sometime around Misty's party-weekend. There fore the need for oxyroxiewhatever.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=009-2.flv

[seeker]

Right now he is probably on nerve medicine. I know I would be.

Roxies; must be for his pain. And, he shares. Money, no money. Still illegal to give prescription pills to those without the prescription. Wonder if Ron was prescribed these medications?

Just my questions and opinions.

[panache]

It is saved here, you should be able to watch:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=009-1.flv


panache...
I'm sorry, I failed. I read as much as my eyes could stand and found nothing at all for the 'why' Donevan has custody of Destiny.


But... I did find a video of Hurtin' Hank from early on, back in Feb. It is the one where Misty's family is throwing cousin Joe under the bus. Hank had just been in a car crash sometime around Misty's party-weekend. There fore the need for oxyroxiewhatever.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=009-2.flv

Thanks for looking Amanda. Yes I recall that video. Hank was in the hospital the morning of Haleigh's disappearance.

I heard Ron was with his attys. at the Task force meeting today. Is something up?

moo

[CANDYKISSES]

Where is Ron getting all these meds?

I'm sure you mean ALLEGEDLY given at this time we don't know for sure, but he has acknowledged being on prescription medication for an injury IIRC......

Better question is why Hank would be taking anything from Ron, much less claiming Ron's his illegal pharmacist and having just seen the biggest bust in the county IIRC.

This simply doesn't make sense if Ron is allegedly dispensing for all these people yet he wasn't one of the arrests in the bust with four agencies working that case. JMO:sad:

Surely LE could not be that negligent given the position they are in with a missing child who's been gone 80 plus days now, could they?

[CANDYKISSES]

I take them all with a tiny grain of salt. As usual, I'll wait to hear from LE.


I've started using the BOXES OF SALT NOW. :w00t:

[panache]

I'm sure it was a flop house and she probably is better off. I still feel for her tho. I didn't have any feelings of compassion for her when I saw the interview she did with Art. She seemed tough and hardened and I wondered what her involvement was in Haleigh's disappearance. But seeing that video tonight she seemed so vulnerable and lost.

Drug addiction and alcoholism is a disease and when kids start at an early age, as it seems many do in that town, that saddens me.

Maybe I'm reaching my limit. If you stare into the abyss long enough, it starts to stare back at you.

Oh I agree, watching that video of Nay being escorted back to jail, she did appear lost, confused and vunerable. I hope this time, she'll get herself in rehab. Will she be in court tomorrow for arrainment?

[Mamie]

I admit I haven't been keeping up with this case lately, but have we every found out why Crystal keeps having seizures? I see she had one on Monday, according to JVM show today.

Thanks in advance!

[panache]

Details emerge about the Task Force meeting with Ron and his attys.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755

[panache]

Not sure, they may let her dry out first.

According to AH's artcle they don't think she was involved in Haleigh's disappearance;

Captain Piscatello hopes to harvest clues from all the emotional chaos, and within minutes of her booking, had investigators grilling her again about what she knew about Haleigh’s disappearance or anyone who might know. “I don’t think she’s involved directly at all,” Piscatello told me, “but this gives us a chance to see if she will give us something she hasn’t before.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/28/exclusive-haleigh-could-be-alive-top-cop/#more-1755

So I assume they are really taking advantage of her vulnerability right now. They may even offer a deal on the charges, idk, just guessing about that.

Could be that immunity that was mentioned the other day.

[seeker]

Oh I agree, watching that video of Nay being escorted back to jail, she did appear lost, confused and vunerable. I hope this time, she'll get herself in rehab. Will she be in court tomorrow for arrainment?

If that confusing article is correct, she is on a seventy-two-hour hold.(Psychiatric observation). In a cell? Without a doctor? I don't know. It's unclear, and unethical to my way of thinking, if she has been deemed suicidal, being questioned and not being housed in a hospital under medical supervision.

my opinion

[panache]

If that confusing article is correct, she is on a seventy-two-hour hold.(Psychiatric observation). In a cell? Without a doctor? I don't know. It's unclear, and unethical to my way of thinking, if she has been deemed suicidal, being questioned and not being housed in a hospital under medical supervision.

my opinion

Doesn't she have to be remanded to a rehab facility by the court if she refuses to voluntarily commit hrself? Perhaps that's what will take place in court tomorrow.

moo

[LILMANMAX]

All of this is so boggling to the mind. I cannot imagine what LE are going through trying to sift thru the muck.
Look at what we are coming up with.

Pass the salt and the valium please. :unsure:

[panache]

I'm beginning to think that things are starting to come unglued. Ron's at the Task Force today to answer questions, speculation Misti has hired an atty. Something's cooking.

moo

[?noanswer]

I'm beginning to think that things are starting to come unglued. Ron's at the Task Force today to answer questions, speculation Misti has hired an atty. Something's cooking.

moo

Wonder if the task force is the one that is working on the drug case or one that is working on the disappearance of Haleigh. JMO

[?noanswer]

Way OT BUT I have been on this board today as well as the Caylee board.. Do any of you know what the heck happened to the Caylee board? It is shut down AGAIN very annoying imo - thank you in advance



I think CW posted that it was closed temporarily to clean up the forum. JMO

[playnice]

Dont know but guess Baez new defense strategy will be measles killed Caylee.:w00t:

[nana6]

I think CW posted that it was closed temporarily to clean up the forum. JMO

thank you for your reply. I have never heard of cleaning up a forum. Oh well, I guess they can pretty much do what they want since they are the monitors. Maybe tomorrow it will be open. Good night to all of you and to little Haleigh . May tomorrow be the day she comes home alive.

[?noanswer]

This is the biggest "ITA" I've ever given. Thankfully, you posted it beautifully.

Let me add that I now think Cobra is a, well since I can't post what I really think about him here without getting banned, I'll leave it to your imaginations. Sick, disturbing, dramatic, ridiculous and on and on. No matter which way you look at it, it's wrong. Even if this girl has one iota of a clue as to what happened to Haleigh, was this much drama needed? And what's with Cobra's long pause and then saying "can't tell ya, it's a secret" huh? Are we sure Cobra didn't ask Ron for pills? He sure looks like he's high on something and I also noticed this when he video taped his interview, showing his big guns and talking jibber jabber on that last tape where they had to drive off to some secret hiding place, anyone remember that one?

What Cobra did today was just wrong on so many levels. There was no need for a camera to be there, no need for the shock and awe of it all. If she was really in a filthy, disgusting home then someone could have at least gone and talked to her to see what was up. None of it makes sense and I agree with the poster who said le is blowing it, if they keep it up, they'll find themselves under investigation as well, which by the looks of it, should have happened years ago. Only in my opinion.

moo


I have always thought Cobra was in this for self recognition. Today reinforced that thought. He is a Dog wannabe. I think the same about TJH. When he posted that CS tried to come on to him, I lost any respect I might have had for him. Totally unprofessional, even if it happened. JMO

[panache]

Wonder if the task force is the one that is working on the drug case or one that is working on the disappearance of Haleigh. JMO

I wonder what Cobra meant when asked what this was all about, ( Nay's arrest) he replied, *It's a Suprise*. What does Cobra know?

moo

[?noanswer]

I wonder what Cobra meant when asked what this was all about, ( Nay's arrest) he replied, *It's a Suprise*. What does Cobra know?

moo

Probably nothing. There seemed to be gaps in the tape as if it was edited. He should not have bailed them out. Let LE do their thing. LE should start throwing some people in jail for police interferance. JMO

[playnice]

I wonder what Cobra meant when asked what this was all about, ( Nay's arrest) he replied, *It's a Suprise*. What does Cobra know?

moo

I think he did a LP and thought he could get these girls to talk. They havent told him anything he wants to hear so anything to get rid of them now. Amber will soon follow.

[panache]

I happen to think Cobra tried the *shock and awe* method today. Perhaps the message was seen/heard by those that have remained silent.

moo

[?noanswer]

I happen to think Cobra tried the *shock and awe* method today. Perhaps the message was seen/heard by those that have remained silent.

moo

If those that have remained silent are not afraid of LE, I don't think they are scared of "Cobra". If I come across as angry, I am. I am angry at myself for not staying away from this mess and doing something productive. These people were living this kind of life before Haleigh disappeared and will continue with it until they are locked up or dead. I just want Haleigh to be found and the guilty party to pay the price. I want all the little children to have a better life than they have right now. JMO

[playnice]

If LE think it wasnt a stranger abduction and Haleigh could be alive where on earth is the perp hiding her out? Could she be held right there in Putman county right under their noses? And if Haleigh knows them how are they going to ever be able to let her go?
What a crazy mess.

[playnice]

If those that have remained silent are not afraid of LE, I don't think they are scared of "Cobra". If I come across as angry, I am. I am angry at myself for not staying away from this mess and doing something productive. These people were living this kind of life before Haleigh disappeared and will continue with it until they are locked up or dead. I just want Haleigh to be found and the guilty party to pay the price. I want all the little children to have a better life than they have right now. JMO

The first I heard of this case I said No. Not going to let myself get sucked in.
The more that comes out the more I care less about any of these people. The lifestyle every one of them has lead is nothing but a recipe for disaster. I hope Haleigh is alive and can be found soon. I hope for all of these kids that have any of these poor excuses for parents that something good will come from this and some of them will learn from this and clean up their lives. :sad:

[legalmania]

I want to dedicate this song to Haleigh I hope you are safe and find your way home real soon.

----------------
Now playing: The Beatles - The Long and Winding Road (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the_beatles/track/the_long_and_winding_road)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[cat3]

I get the sense that this young girl is being used. I don't know by whom, but it was either bad reporting or humans behaving badly if Art Harris's article is correct: Taken to jail because of suicidal thoughts; why not to the hospital? The article says that investigators immediately began questioning this "suicidal" young girl.

In the article it says, according to a distraught text message regarding seeing her baby in another woman's arms, than forwarded to Cobra, HE went and had Kristina taken in to the police station.

It is probably way too early to know the truth, or all of it, but seeing her face, her confusion, and her fear was heart-wrenching. Any sincere person believing another to be suicidal, should have quietly, without cameras, taken her straight to a psychiatric hospital, in my humble opinion.

Never thought I would agree with one of your posts,seeker,but I do agree with everything you posted.I felt very sorry for Nay Nay and the only thing that would change that would be if she had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.Cobra buddies up to people and then he turns on them.IMO

[cat3]

I think so too, pan. Not sure what or how it will all shake out tho but I think something is about to break.

I wonder if LE is interviewing RC about Haleigh or about the HC incident?
I sure hope Ron has nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance,and he is just doing a follow up with LE.Makes me wonder though with Nay Nay being put back in jail today.IMO

[cat3]

I think he did a LP and thought he could get these girls to talk. They havent told him anything he wants to hear so anything to get rid of them now. Amber will soon follow.

Amber has managed to stay well hidden aside from her arrest.Even AH and Cobra couldn't get an interview from her.IMO

[Lovethechild]

Just my 2 cents.....But I think "cobra" is a jerk. Nay nay is a troubled young lady. This woman's behavior is a cry for help. She's suicidal and flipped out when she saw another lady holding her baby.....I'd flip out too!
Cobra is a meddler...this carp is distracting from HALIEGH! I wish he would just shut-up and crawl back into the hole he came out of.:cursing:

Sorry, Needed to vent.

[rosieposett]

I have been staying away also, checking in now and then. So many getting frustrated and it can be seen in many of the poster's. I like facts and with all of AH creative addition to his writings just IMO takes away from his credibility.
panache, I have my on opinion why the sudden meeting the task force called Ron and his attorney in for. I think LE had heard he was going to appear on JVM tonight and things are getting ready to come down,just like the big drug bust, and they are afraid Ron may say something in his defense that might alert the kidnappers. I believe LE is filling ing Ron and his attorney on just enough to convince them this could hurt their investigation. JMOO.
I agree Mr. Bounty Hunter went over the line today. If he wanted to revoke nay nay's bond, he could have did it discreetly without the camera's rolling. I have stated from the beginning this man and KP has inserted them self in this case not for CS or Haleigh. They have big plans to make money off of this tragedy. All this drama has done nothing but make things harder on LE.
I am sad that CS has and is being used just like Mr. Bounty Hunter used nay nay. It is my understanding that this is the first seizure Crystal has had since leaving the area and going home to her family. That tells me she needs to stay away,close the doors and go home until her daughter is found. I think KP pushed her to go back so TJ could interview her for publicity. Her life is worth more then a interview.
Now, I will go back into lurk mode.

I am with you Bam. I come here to get the latest news and when there is no new news I, as you do, lurk or go elsewhere. It's not the posters fault there is nothing new to discuss. I guess the same old, same old, is better than nothing to some. It's true, we all want to be here. We all ache for Haleigh's return.

Your advice to CS is solid. She has been used and abused and may not even know it.

Good post, Bam. Rosie