wed, April 22

[Lovethechild]

New thread for wed. Hope haleigh is found today!

[Squidward]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/#more-1694

BOLO and 911 call

[Lovethechild]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/#more-1694

BOLO and 911 call


Thanks for the link,Squidward. I'm glad she called 911. Never can be to careful. While it's not a crime to drive through someone parking lot, It could be concidered "stalking" if it continues. MOO

[Lovethechild]

I feel sorry for the grandmother. She never even saw Ronald and no where does she say he sent Jr to the door. No report was filed because there was no evidence a crime had been committed.

and IF Ron is the baby's father i hope he gets custody.


I hope he NEVER gets custody. Does he even pay child support?

[cat3]

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet,but here is a short interview with Gale St. John. Most of it is about Adji,but there is a part in the beginning about Haleigh.She says she can't make public the "blind drive" because it would hinder the investigation.She also has a rant about Nancy Grace.IMO

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1416442

[CANDYKISSES]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/#more-1694

While listening to the 911 call I heard laughing and giggling in the back ground.You could tell it was more then one person laughing. IMO this whole 911 was a set up to get Ron and Misty in trouble. This sounds more like the grandmother's voice then a GGM voice. Has Amber's mother been in trouble with the law??
I also read in AH article that a minister was listening to a scanner and called him about the bolo. So much for the anonymous "Diggs", who we can now assume was his inside information. Why would a minister be listening to a scanner and calling AH???
All of this latest BS sounds like a ploy to get Ron back in the spot light. Also did the LE officer that went over to talk to the caller of the 911 see these giggling girls and watch them because he suspected drugs. Did this thing backfire and the girls end up getting arrested for possession of cocaine just hours later.
Is the Bounty Hunter involved in the set up and is that why he was called and decided to get them out of jail before these girls run their mouth?? Maybe it was assumption on their part a BOLO would be issued on Ron and the LE officer seen right through their game..
What else is up the Big bad Bounty Hunter's sleeve?? Stay tuned for another day in Let's get Ronald Cummings, because he made a fool of me... Is that gun legal even with a permit?? That guy is crazy as a bed bug...
Mr. Bounty Hunter, LE tapes don't lie and you are NOT worth LE tapering with LE tapes.
I think both AH and the bounty Hunter need to be arrested for interference with a kidnapping of a child investigation.

I think it's all about a set up now to incite Ron, and I'll bet the young women were laughing. The whole lot of circus clowns in this mess are making me barf this early in the AM. YUCK.

AH has been reduced to a very new low courtesy of the Picazio show IMOO. Who has Kim not made a fool of?

Let's see she gets a kick out of telling people they need to understand her client with the tenth grade education as an excuse for any and everything IMO.

She plays her games fast and loose with Cobra and knowing vs not knowing him vs ENLISTING HIS SERVICES IMO.

But the take home prize has to be using Art Harris to rehab her client the former party girl who made some poor choices in life with her tenth grade education and has now morphed into this innocent DVV.....NOT SO FAST KIM, and NOT SO MUCH CRYSTAL.

I think they all need a refresher course in how this all started and the poor choices Crystal and Ron made back in the day when they were laying back enjoying the white stuff. ALL JMO. :thumbdown:

:wub:BRING HALEIGH HOME AND STOP THE GOSSIP RAGGING.

[CANDYKISSES]

I feel sorry for the grandmother. She never even saw Ronald and no where does she say he sent Jr to the door. No report was filed because there was no evidence a crime had been committed.

and IF Ron is the baby's father i hope he gets custody.

Oh FGS Angel, this is all about bringing Ron down so Kim can walk straight out of town with her head held up as opposed to running with her tail between her legs IMOO.

Ron one upped Cobra because he is cut from the same cloth IMO and none of the supporting cast seems to like it. Sweet talking Kim must have her line up going at record speeds trying to incite Ron. Good grief, where is Greg?????

I hope he turns up soon, but maybe he got into the spring semester of school. :wink: JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Since it was posted on the Haleigh thread I am going to assume she is related to Chad Griffis. I didn't go back and read but a couple of pages.

How can you assume any such thing?

This is what happened on the Lunsford board. People posting police reports, arrest report, and even credit reports on anybody with the last name of Lunsford "assuming" they were all related. They were not.

I don't assume anybody with the last name of Cummings is related to Ron, the last name Sheffield is related to Crystal, the last name Croslin is related to Misty...and so on. Even though the last names appear on a police arrest/booking site.

JMO

[panache]

How can you assume any such thing?

This is what happened on the Lunsford board. People posting police reports, arrest report, and even credit reports on anybody with the last name of Lunsford "assuming" they were all related. They were not.

I don't assume anybody with the last name of Cummings is related to Ron, the last name Sheffield is related to Crystal, the last name Croslin is related to Misty...and so on. Even though the last names appear on a police arrest/booking site.

JMO

Good Morning and thank you for this post. *Assuming* just by name association is quite a stretch. Without basis, that arrest report should be deleted.

Amber's grandmother's call confirmed to me she was quite frightened. Did you catch that Misty was in the car with Ron? LE should be asking those two questions as to what their reason was for being there. Poor Junior, being used as a decoy.

moo

[crymeariver2006]

Good Morning and thank you for this post. *Assuming* just by name association is quite a stretch. Without basis, that arrest report should be deleted.

Amber's grandmother's call confirmed to me she was quite frightened. Did you catch that Misty was in the car with Ron? LE should be asking those two questions as to what their reason was for being there. Poor Junior, being used as a decoy.

moo

Oh yes, and the irony of Amber's subsequent arrest isn't lost on me.

Again, what are the odds that those things are pure coincidence?

Was it you that said that Amber and Renae were "pulled over" and that the arrest was a result of that? Wonder what they were "pulled over" for as there are no traffic charges related to either one of them for that night/day?

[crymeariver2006]

an anonymous tip???

Any guesses by who?

:laugh:

[Texas48]

She saw Ronald. “He just cruised through and my daughter was coming through and they passed each other, and she (saw) his new wife…I’m the great grandmother, and I have custody of the baby and I’m very upset…” artharris.com


Why didn't Ronald use his new attorney to gain custodial rights? Cruising around seems sneaky and an awful way to intimidate an elderly lady.

moowith respect 51..do you think Ron set out to *intimidate an elderly lady*? Have you seen or heard Ron making any statements that he wants custody of Amber's baby? I read a post yesterday ref. *if* a newcomer to the board read most of the posts on this board they would possibly take the post as FACT and as we all know..there is very few *facts* posted...when someone reads...*cruising around seems sneaky and an awful way to intimidate an elderly lady* ..they just may take that as FACT and just maybe this is how many rumors get their start..Haleigh is the ISSUE...as always..jmo.. BTW: what ever happened to the website you were going to do? I was all for that and it was talked about with much excitement and then it was dropped..I have ask you several times about it and I quess you are missing my question..

[Texas48]

I hope he NEVER gets custody. Does he even pay child support?I don't believe it has ever been proven Ron is the father of this baby but IMO he does not need custody nor does Amber..This baby is most likely better off where he is ...with the GM. One has to wounder why all these ppl have been *blessed* with these innocent children..JMO

[crymeariver2006]

with respect 51..do you think Ron set out to *intimidate an elderly lady*? Have you seen or heard Ron making any statements that he wants custody of Amber's baby? I read a post yesterday ref. *if* a newcomer to the board read most of the posts on this board they would possibly take the post as FACT and as we all know..there is very few *facts* posted...when someone reads...*cruising around seems sneaky and an awful way to intimidate an elderly lady* ..they just may take that as FACT and just maybe this is how many rumors get their start..Haleigh is the ISSUE...as always..jmo.. BTW: what ever happened to the website you were going to do? I was all for that and it was talked about with much excitement and then it was dropped..I have ask you several times about it and I quess you are missing my question..

And a newcomer might also think that a RSO listing of a person who just happens to have the same last name as one of the people involved in this case is involved in whatever happened to Haleigh.

[2boysMom]

I've missed lots of posts and am not caught up yet, but wasn't RJ supposed to have been at Amber's GM's door? I didn't hear her say that in her 911 call. Thanks for help catching me up.

[panache]

I've missed lots of posts and am not caught up yet, but wasn't RJ supposed to have been at Amber's GM's door? I didn't hear her say that in her 911 call. Thanks for help catching me up.

No, Ron did not go to the door, he sent 4 yr old Junior and a thin black man according to Amber's grandma. Who, IMO has no reason to lie.

[Texas48]

And a newcomer might also think that a RSO listing of a person who just happens to have the same last name as one of the people involved in this case is involved in whatever happened to Haleigh.I am in NO WAY disagreeing with you.

[Texas48]

when you figure out how to do that...would you let me know? LOLI will Katie..I'm still shaking my head this morning after seeing that..:scared:

[panache]

Well maybe we can put this nonsense to rest then.

I feel sorry for the grandma but I think she just overreacted... Can't blame her but this was nothing.
Where in the world did they get that Jr was at the door? That Ron had sent him to the door to lure the baby out?

I wouldn't describe the grandmother as *over reacting* Pia. A woman living alone with a two yr old does not expect a stranger or a four yr old knocking on her door at 10pm.

moo

[panache]

or two suspects in a missing child case cruising her house, especially when one of the suspects is the alledged father of the baby she has in her possession, IMO

Really! What the heck was Ron thinking to pull such a stunt!

[crymeariver2006]

Why should they be questioned about being there? I think we are free to drive through any parking lot in this country we choose unless we have court orders saying that we can't. It is an apartment complex. It isn't a huge town. They could have family and/or friends living there. They didn't stop at this woman's apartment...They didn't even blow the horn. They drove through...I am not even sure the woman saw them. She sure didn't know the make or even color of the car.

The guy at the door could have been someone looking to purchase drugs off of Amber and NayNay....:wink:

And Ron "could have" been looking to do the same thing, no?

[Texas48]

Well maybe we can put this nonsense to rest then.

I feel sorry for the grandma but I think she just overreacted... Can't blame her but this was nothing.
Where in the world did they get that Jr was at the door? That Ron had sent him to the door to lure the baby out?
This is how this BS gets started..one word and its a whole story before the day is over..In no way am I blaming the GM..wasn't her faught..she may have over reacted but then some took and ran with it..kinda like a wild fire out of control..imo

[Texas48]

Hi Tex, with respect back, I posted "moo" and I'm pretty sure posters can decipher which posts are fact and which are somebody's opinions. By the way, I have a strong opinion on Ronald and Misty cruising the neighborhood. Whether one chooses to agree with me or not regarding the intimidation factor is based strictly on their own opinion. Much of what is put out there is opinion, so please do not single me out, thanks.

If you have asked several times about the website and I didn't answer, wouldn't you put that in a pm? Crystal has a website and there seems to be no other demand for another one. I think the website was going to in part, help with getting Haleigh more attention, to write emails, etc. But I didn't receive any pm's showing interest in it, so therefore no website.

moothanks for answering ref. the web site..I was hoping it was still a go..I know you showed interest a long time ago and then again several weeks ago..I don't know what happened about the mass emails either..I aske apple and several others and it was just dropped..so its anyone quess as to why that didn't get off the ground either..

[panache]

Why should they be questioned about being there? I think we are free to drive through any parking lot in this country we choose unless we have court orders saying that we can't. It is an apartment complex. It isn't a huge town. They could have family and/or friends living there. They didn't stop at this woman's apartment...They didn't even blow the horn. They drove through...I am not even sure the woman saw them. She sure didn't know the make or even color of the car.

The guy at the door could have been someone looking to purchase drugs off of Amber and NayNay....:wink:

Right! And Ron and misty decided to drive by that particular apt complex. What a coinky dink. They didn't just drive thru Pia, listen to the 911 call, gram looked out the peephole, It is what it is.

moo

[TxLady2]

I don't believe it has ever been proven Ron is the father of this baby but IMO he does not need custody nor does Amber..This baby is most likely better off where he is ...with the GM. One has to wounder why all these ppl have been *blessed* with these innocent children..JMO

According to a local, Ron is named as the father on the birth certificate. How they would know this, I don't know.
But.... I would guess that there are many, many "dads" listed on birth certificates that really were not. KWIM??? :sad:

[panache]

We don't even have any proof that Ron was even there. This woman sounded like she didn't even see him. Amber said she did...

What would you say if it was Crystal spotted in that parking lot? Would she be just visiting friends as well?

[CANDYKISSES]

There is ZERO evidence that this is Chad's mother or any relative of his.

Where are the FAMILY TREES that Mimi put up? I thought that was invasive, but that didn't stop anyone at all.

Is the real issue that the other poster should have done a family tree organizational chart on Chad? :confused: JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

What would you say if it was Crystal spotted in that parking lot? Would she be just visiting friends as well?

Maybe it's where the day's catch is dispensed for all we know. No matter what and or who.....ONE THING IS REALLY STINKING IN HERE and that is the coincidences that have come to be in the wake of the two interviews with Greg which were the lowest of low IMOO. barf

[CANDYKISSES]

Absolutely! We spent what, about 36 hours discussing this here wondering what the heck could Ron have been thinking and then we get this 911 tape....and the truth comes out. I am still trying to figure out how Jr. was at the door trying to lure out that baby....where in the world did that part come in at? We originally had the black man at the door with Jr and Ron standing by the car....Ron didn't even get out of the car (if it was even him) and the black man didn't show up for an hour later...I wonder how they left Misty out of this in the original version???? How in the world did that part get by them???:rolleyes:

I hope they weren't trying to get Junior a juvie record at his tender young age. REALLY, enough is enough with all the taunting and griping about these people UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH HALEIGH CUMMINGS BEING MISSING.

JMO. :closedeyes:

[TxLady2]

We don't even have any proof that Ron was even there. This woman sounded like she didn't even see him. Amber said she did...

The great-grandma might not have, but the grandma, Amber's mom, did see him. And he didn't just drive through the parking lot... he was driving around and around through it.. several times.
Whatever his intentions were, he was up to no good... you can count on it.

[2boysMom]

They did not get out of the car. GM says she looked out the peephole when the thin black man knocked...an hour later....yes indeed it is what it is.

Has the thin black male been determined to be linked to Ron? And I'll listen again, but i didn't hear Grandma say anything about little Jr being there.

[crymeariver2006]

We don't even have any proof that Ron was even there. This woman sounded like she didn't even see him. Amber said she did...

And what is the difference between all of your "could haves" in your post?

Is there any proof that the guy who came to the door was looking for drugs? But you claim that's what he "could have" been doing?

:shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Where are the FAMILY TREES that Mimi put up? I thought that was invasive, but that didn't stop anyone at all.

Is the real issue that the other poster should have done a family tree organizational chart on Chad? :confused: JMO

I believe CW has cautioned everyone about throwing random pics and arrest records up without any correlation established to the case at hand.

The issue, IMO, is that not every Griffis in the state if Florida is related to Chad. Not every Sheffield is related to Crystal. Not every Cummings is related to Ron. No matter how big a "daisy chain" someone tries to knit.

No one, to my knowledge, posted the photo of that Cummings guy who was arrested and booked, insinuating that he was related to Ron, did they?

JMO

[playnice]

I wonder if Amber could be involved in Haleigh's disappearance to get back at Misty ?

[crymeariver2006]

We do know that Amber and NayNay both had drugs on them that night so yes he 'could have' been there for that FOR ALL WE KNOW...

Yes, and Grandma probably had a Bible in the house too, but that doesn't mean he was there for Bible study either does it?

[panache]

Gayle St. John Update

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1416442

[crymeariver2006]

She has more than the same last name. She's also lived in the same cities as Chad from time to time, and was in relatively close proximity to Haleigh when this happened. I think it's pretty obvious LE have spoken to her, as that would explain the fresh pic.

Oh stop it. She lived in the same cities as Chad so that means you've linked her to being related to Chad?

Does anybody in your city have the same last name as you? Are you related to all of them?

[titanfan217]

No, Ron did not go to the door, he sent 4 yr old Junior and a thin black man according to Amber's grandma. Who, IMO has no reason to lie.

Morning.

I thought one of the last things I read last night indicated that RC & MC were in the parking lot and then someone came to the door. Not even sure the 2 were connected.

[panache]

What arrest report? She is an RSO, and I've not seen any arrest reports for her. If you have one, I'd love the link. I'm trying to figure out if she fits the mo.

I called it a arrest report, my error, but what ever you linked here, is supposition, and until proven, has nothing to do with this case. So, she lived in the same cities, like Pia said earlier about Ron driving thru parking lots, doesn't mean a thing.

moo

[Peaches]

Oh yes, and the irony of Amber's subsequent arrest isn't lost on me.

Again, what are the odds that those things are pure coincidence?

Was it you that said that Amber and Renae were "pulled over" and that the arrest was a result of that? Wonder what they were "pulled over" for as there are no traffic charges related to either one of them for that night/day?


Only one question:

Do you think people with drugs should NOT be arrested?

[Peaches]

No, he doesn't pay child support. And I hope if it is established that Ron is the dad, I hope Amber takes that baby and runs as far and as fast as she can. Amber is the girl Misty was babystting for her baby when she met Ron, isn't she? And she encouraged Ron to take the baby because he wasn't being raised right?

I can't believe Misty and Ron just happened to be in Amber's neighborhood, the baby is home alone with the grandmother, and Amber gets arrested the next morning?

Stinky stinky stinky

Gee, it just hit me, maybe they were cruising the house because they think Amber has Haleigh? Yeah, right


First of all, Amber can not take the baby. She does not have custody of him.

[Peaches]

with respect 51..do you think Ron set out to *intimidate an elderly lady*? Have you seen or heard Ron making any statements that he wants custody of Amber's baby? I read a post yesterday ref. *if* a newcomer to the board read most of the posts on this board they would possibly take the post as FACT and as we all know..there is very few *facts* posted...when someone reads...*cruising around seems sneaky and an awful way to intimidate an elderly lady* ..they just may take that as FACT and just maybe this is how many rumors get their start..Haleigh is the ISSUE...as always..jmo.. BTW: what ever happened to the website you were going to do? I was all for that and it was talked about with much excitement and then it was dropped..I have ask you several times about it and I quess you are missing my question..


Texas, you are so grounded. I really appreciate your post trying to make us think before we open our mouths to post here.

Thanks............:thumbsup:

[Peaches]

You think ronnie and misty were there to score drugs? Now that's a new angle to think about.



Did you ever stop to think that they were looking for Haleigh?

Maybe they were hoping and praying that Amber took her...........who knows.

I know for one thing................none of us.

MOO

[Peaches]

I think I owe a huge apology to LE down there too. If this is the kind of nonsense they are having to wade through everyday, no wonder they haven't found that baby yet.

Hart and Harris should both be ashamed. They are hanging around with the bounty hunter because he is the only one talking to them...and it appears that they don't care if the story is true or not, just as long as they have something to write about.


It is sad that H & H like scandle more than helping find Haleigh.

MOO

If they did not, we would not be hearing all this trash that has nothing to do with helping find this precious child. JMO

[JD1974]

Pia...this is the GREAT grandmother of Jordon. She said, my daughter, not my grandaughter. Amber is her grandaughter.

I find it mildly amusing that you believe the ggma about the black man but think she "made up" the part about Ron and Misty. And once again, how do we know that Amber lives there?

Happy packing...


I find it even more amusing that everyone had Ron sending Jr up to the door...so did the ggm forget that part?

[Peaches]

:lol: Poor misty!!!


If an adult jumped on your 16 year old child, you would not think it was so funny.

OR.............maybe you are not like most parents who feel protective where a child is involved. :scared:

[beachpatty]

I have never heard Pia or anyone else say Ron & Misty were there to score drugs. Where does that come from?


As a side note.....
if they were there to buy drugs, where did they get the $$ ?
he isn't working, she isnt't working, no unemployment and i would wager to bet that the donations have trickled off. they have to be living off something, even gas, ciggies, etc, maybe even GGM is feeding them from out of her own pocket? alot of the drug deals are fronts and favors, i would like to hear the whole story, this is a mess, a web of the underlings of society, many times arch enemies are suddenly great buds again, just because the tables turned and maybe the bales came in?

food for thought and MOO
beachpatty

[Peaches]

I find it even more amusing that everyone had Ron sending Jr up to the door...so did the ggm forget that part?



Good question.

It is truly good to have someone who has not been here every day take a good look at what is really happening. Thank you! :thumbsup:

[CANDYKISSES]

I find it even more amusing that everyone had Ron sending Jr up to the door...so did the ggm forget that part?

I thought that was a real hoot too JD. :w00t: How low will they go?

[CANDYKISSES]

You should listen to the whole tape. You will see that GMA didn't even know what car he was supposed to be in, said that it was Amber who saw him, and asked Amber what sort of car he had.

Yes, I found that very interesting too. It all sounds very childish and provoked by Amber and her friend NayNay. JMO tho.:thumbdown:

[Peaches]

Hey Tiffany, all I did was bring the link over from yesterday. I did NOT bring the link to the board. By the way I answered your post, go back and find and read it.
As far as starting rumors, I have NOT started the first rumor. I do believe the subject of Ron was discussed all day yesterday. That is why I left the board until the facts come out. Now just because the facts do NOT Jive with the defenders of Crystal don't blame me.
Grandma didn't see Ron car drive through she had to ask those that were in the room giggling and laughing while she was on the phone to the dispatcher. Want to bet it was little Ole Amber and her jail bird friend Nay Nay??? Apparently LE didn't even believe it because he never even wrote up a report. A BOLO, what a laugh...
Now if you have a problem with the truth, that is your problem, NOT mine.

What will AH and the Bounty Hunter think of next???



Good Morning bam bam,

Even after the facts have been written and heard some find it impossible to let go of the rumors started on this very board yesterday. They want to keep them alive.

Sick! I thought everyone wanted the truth..............and to find Haleigh. Guess not.


BTW............thank you for your post. You are always right on target with the truth!

ALL JMOHO

[royals02]

All of these people make me sick. Everyone who steps forward in this case is doing it soley for publicity....they want to be in the media just like the vile Anthony family. They are all only concerned with slinging mud at each other and it truly seems that no one has kept focused on Haleigh. Apparently she was just an end to their means...now they all want their names and faces in the limelight for their "15 minutes of fame"....and I am referring to the families, friends, lawyers, bounty hunters, and press (art harris). They should ALL be ashamed of themselves
God bless you poor little Haleigh....

[JD1974]

Good question.

It is truly good to have someone who has not been here every day take a good look at what is really happening. Thank you! :thumbsup:

Hi again Peaches! I do read almost every day but I have to say some days I just go to a different thread, some of the stuff said on here is horrible. I will even admit I did my fair share in the beginning, I was almost convinced Misty was involved...now I am not sure if she was or not.

I am not sure of anything in this case anymore to tell you the truth, it is almost like a soap opera...the only difference being everyone on a soap is rich.

[Peaches]

Well I'll believe the report AH has up, quoting what she has to say.

As for Ronald, I guess he has nothing better to do than to cruise the streets these days in that he was fired from his job due to abandonment of his position. I bet whoever took over that job is thrilled to have it and in today's times, won't take it for granted. It didn't appear to me that Ronald's family had much money, hope he finds work soon and takes some of the burden off ggma sykes. Incidentally, does anyone know why Ronald is staying with ggm instead of TN? That's really strange imo.

moo


Personally, I do not think much of a company that would fire a person because they did not work due to their child being missing. That's just me.

To me, this looks like an excuse so that people will quit calling them for information on Ron. JMOO

[Peaches]

All of these people make me sick. Everyone who steps forward in this case is doing it soley for publicity....they want to be in the media just like the vile Anthony family. They are all only concerned with slinging mud at each other and it truly seems that no one has kept focused on Haleigh. Apparently she was just an end to their means...now they all want their names and faces in the limelight for their "15 minutes of fame"....and I am referring to the families, friends, lawyers, bounty hunters, and press (art harris). They should ALL be ashamed of themselves
God bless you poor little Haleigh....



My thoughts exactly...............All this mudslinging is taking the message off Haleigh.

[JD1974]

Well whatever AH and Cobra do next, at least they are still invoved with the case...don't hear anything coming from LE. I am also starting to wonder how far will these girls go in the fight for your man and your child saga....Wondering if Nay Nay and Amber were cruising around that night doing their cocaine, talking about Misty going back to RC and decided to take Haleigh to teach them a lesson. Hopefully Cobra. LE or somebody gets it out of them. But I do wish RC would keep his mug out of all this Nay Nay, Amber drama. IMO


A child's life could be at stake here...I really can't be glad that people like that are keeping her in the news even if it is the only news we have. They do more damage than good.

If they have everyone focusing or believing certain individuals harmed Haleigh then no one will be looking for her because as far as some people are concerned she is dead and Ron and/or Misty are the perps, so it then shifts to how to punish them instead of looking for this little girl.

If a SO did take Haleigh then people that like to spread a bunch of nonsense about others that may not even be involved just became the sex offenders best ally.

Can you imagine the field day a defense atty will have with all this BS if this was a stranger abduction and they bring it to trial? I really don't mean to single your post out but the bounty hunters and the people who make stuff up just to get a reaction really bug me...I am having Murt flashbacks...

[crymeariver2006]

I'm a little confused.

Because you think RC is responsible for Haleigh going missing, you don't want people to be allowed to discuss the possibility it may have been an RSO?

And why do you call it a rumor? It is a Federal website...do you think they spread rumors and make things up there? Don't you think they should get the pics and details of SOs out there to protect children?


You weren't putting up her picture to help protect children. You put it up for the sole purpose of trying to find the six degrees of separation between her and Chad.

You posted as much.

JMO

[Peaches]

Yep...and LE has said the same. But CS & KP can't help themselves it seems, and it appears to me they don't want Haleigh found, and I have to wonder why.


Good question.

Also, it seems that all KP wants to put out is trash on Ron.

Where are those pictures she said that showed children abused? I certainly have not seen them.

She said that she has several PI's working on this case. I have not seen or heard any creditable informatin from them either.

Where is Haleigh?

[JD1974]

Being connected to Ron and Misty, I don't think it's a shocker to anyone that she was arrested that night.

Was ggma arrested for filing a false report?


Why would she be arrested? Even if it is only something she was told she was scared and had a right to be..whether it was true or not if that is what she was told she didn't file a false report.

[Peaches]

did ANYONE hear the GGMA say she SAW Jr?



Just rumors, FA, and many want to run with them as facts. So sad that the focus is on rumors and more rumors instead of looking for Haleigh.

Also, it is really sad that some posters find it funny that an adult jumped on a 16 year old girl (Misty). This is just sad to me. Misty was kicked out of her home before she was 16 and then when trying to make a life for herself.............another adult beats her up. No wonder she has issues.

My honest, sincere prayer is that no one that Haleigh loved and trusted had anything to do with her disappearance. Bless that baby where ever she is!

[JD1974]

IF an so took Haleigh, the police would be acting in a completely different manner, heightening alert, curfews, protection. By now, le is sitting back watching the circus go by, hoping somehow a tip will come in. I've heard them say it over and over, they need the one tip to crack the case. They've got Ronald and Misty nailed, I imagine they had it figured out from the start. They need to find the body, imo and that is all they are waiting on. I am glad to see they are living it up by going to the fair, cruising the hood, etc. They are on limited time, imo.



moo


Well from what I have seen there have been a lot of kids disappearing from FL lately..haven't seen LE act any different in any of those cases. I don't think LE know anything and usually any crime can be solved with just one tip, if I seen my neighbor with a missing child that one tip would also solve the crime.

I am sure they could make a case if the only thing missing was Haleigh's body....

[crymeariver2006]

I've seen no proof they were living it up at the fair....if they were, I'm sure someone would have gotten a pic of it. What I do know for a fact, is that they were at the LE booth handing out flyers with LE.

Cruising the hood?...again, can I ask why you think Amber wouldn't lie and why you believe everything she says?

You "know for a fact" that Ron and Misty were at the fair handing out flyers?

I don't suppose there's any photo of that is there?

[crymeariver2006]

Maybe the beating was within the guidelines set by DCFS, their guidelines are pretty lenient down there i hear. IMO


Oh yes, let's not forget that!

[panache]

According to her own words the black man knocked on her door an hour after Ron and Misti were allegedly seen riding through the parking lot.

The part about Junior knocking on the door came from a preacher who thought he heard that but there is nothing to back up what he claims he heard. The ggm never said anything about Junior knocking on her door or asking for the boy. Heck she didn't even say the man asked for the boy.

The whole thing was just another attempt to slime Ron with nothing to back it up. It's really pathetic how low some people in the media are willing to go.

I have better things to do than *slime* Ron. It appears he has managed to do that all by himself fairly well.

MOO

eta

The first AH report, IIRC did say Junior went to the door. Nevertheless, whether it happened or not exactly that way, Ron, I would hope would know better than to drive to Amber's GM. Or does he like making the news? Its starting to appear that way. When things get quiet, off he goes, tats, weddings, Chilli's,etc.

moo again

[crymeariver2006]

So it was thebunny who posted it? I looked for it on last nights thread but couldn't find it.

I agree. It was posted in an attempt to trash Crystal.

Maybe someone with "good research skills" will post every mug shot of everyone named Cummings, Neves and Sykes here too.

This rumor mongering is getting out of hand, imo.

I don't think there's enough bandwidth!

:laugh:

[Mimi428]

I know Madame, it's appalling isn't it. But, it seems to me that ronnie and misty are freaking out and making mistakes and that is a very good thing, imo.

ITA with your assessment. And to me, that is the main element of that episode. It is not a matter of whether it is illegal to drive through a parking lot.

Ron & Misty have a lot of time on their hands these days. I think their abilities to do some of the things they want to do is now hampered. The notoriety is going to follow them & the people they used to hang out with may no longer wish to be seen with them.

JMO

[carlybarly]

I'm just totally amazed reading this thread and so many others, why is this section calle Haleigh Cummings? It should be Bash Ronald because that is all I see some of you doing. You take such joy and pleasure in tearing him down and honestly, why? Is it making your life better? are you happier with yourselves? What motives do you honestly have? His daughter is missing, of course it was "on his watch" so he obviously did something to her, or was involved in some way. I mean aren't all children that are missing, missing because of their parents? I mean maybe Mark Lunsford shouldn't have been working, maybe Polly's parents shouldn't have been sleeping (although it was night) and so on and so on. It isn't like we have proof or even an inkling of proof he was involved.

As for this latest 911 fiasco, many of you are going by what AH wrote on his site, ignoring the fact he only quoted a few key phrases. Ignoring the fact that quite possibly grandma said more than " ron was crusing the parking lot" . Someone posted earlier, well at least grandma did what misti didn't by calling the police right away. Um she called an hour later! She stated that Ron was crusing the parking lot, Amber saw him. Then an hour later a black man came up to the door and is probably connected to Ron. She didn't know the color of the car even, so she didn't see him! And the black man, um maybe he had the wrong door? Maybe he did stop there to see Amber? There is nothing connecting him to Ron. YET all the Ron haters jump right on that and believe that he MUST have something to do with Ron, he MUST have been there to lure this child out of the house. I'm amazed at how quickly every little thing posted or said about Ron is twisted till some are even in glee waiting for "Ron's downfall". And yes, I have seen some comment they were waiting for that, it was a thread removed, Monday part 2 I believe it was called, although Bash Ronald would have been a better title.

I'm just so frustrated to come here and see all this bashing constantly, over and over about the same things. And usually it pans out that it was nothing. This 911 report is just a woman reporting what her granddaughter told her, and do you think it may be possible the granddaughter has a motive? Oh couldn't be possible could it? Only Ron has motives.

And unfortunately this doesn't bring focus on Haleigh, how often is her name even mentioned? It just brings more mudslinging on the families.

[titanfan217]

Did you ever stop to think that they were looking for Haleigh?

Maybe they were hoping and praying that Amber took her...........who knows.

I know for one thing................none of us.

MOO

Sounds good, except why now? I would have checked that one out day 1.

[crymeariver2006]

Very interesting point. I've got to say, I feel awful for RC and sure hope she has some good support to get him through this horrible time. I've never seen such cruelty directed toward a victim of crime.

Crystal's also a victim of a crime, but that doesn't stop you from cruelty towards her, does it?

[crymeariver2006]

Are you defending this female,charged and convicted of sexually abusing a child under 12 years old?? She needs her face posted just like the other sex offenders has been posted on here and no one objected..

Defending her?

No. Your reading comprehension skills must be a little rusty?

[Peaches]

It's amazing how many people condone violence as long as it's directed at Ron and Misti. Remember all those posts awhile back saying Crystal should beat Misti up?


It is hard to believe that any posters who apposes physical violence of any kind (even spanking children) would think that is is funny for that adult beat up a 16 year old child not matter who that child is.


Shocking!

[crymeariver2006]

we can only hope...sticks, wasn't it?

Yes, "natural discipline".

That's what it was.

[Mimi428]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

You posted that the black man may have been looking for drugs. what do you think Ron and Misty were looking for?


Oh, those double-edged swords. Painful.

[Peaches]

So Misty's a child now?

No wait, she's an adult.

No wait, she's too young to get married.

No wait, 16 year olds are more mature these days than they used to be.

And the beat goes on.......



Misty was beat up when she was 16 years old and to me that is indeed a teenager............and someone's child.

An adult should NEVER beat up a teenager just because of a difference between children. Do YOU condone this?

I for one never condone physical abuse.

This is JMHO

[Peaches]

Cobra said these girls are "key" to this case. What if Ron thinks they kidnapped Haleigh? Maybe he was looking for her. I would do the same thing.

Grannie was so smart she didn't even know what the car LOOKED like. hmmmmm


Excellent Post, FA.

Cobra says a lot of things that mean nothing! Why does he have to use such potty words when talking?

I think poor grannie was following directions from Amber and Nay Nay (what teenage girl would still allow people to call her Nay Nay?).

[Peaches]

Maybe the beating was within the guidelines set by DCFS, their guidelines are pretty lenient down there i hear. IMO



Physical violence is not allowed anywhere.

An adult is NEVER allowed to beat up someone else's child.

[CANDYKISSES]

somewhere in someone's world a 16 YO is old enough to sleep with an older man and help raise his children, but too young to get smacked by someone else after she harrasses them????

Somewhere over the rainbow.............

Somewhere here in the USA we have laws that protect everyone from getting a BEAT DOWN :rolleyes: by another person. Ever hear or read the word ASSAULT? :sad: jmo

[CANDYKISSES]

ITA. But you know what you just did, don't you? Now we are going to have at least 11 posters come forward with their tales of how they met their wonderful significant others in their tender years, married and had babies galore, and they are just fine today. IMO

No, but you might get a dose of reality and that starts with NEGLIGENCE ON THE PART OF HER PARENTS. They have an obligation to take care of the children they bring into this world, just as Crystal and Ron had obligations.

So just like DCF is visiting RON because allegations have been made, and just like the courts were seeking out CRYSTAL for FAILURE to support her children, DCF SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT INTO THE CROSLIN HOME and they would have found the parents to be NEGLIGENT IMO.

IT was after that time they would have been forwarded to RON CUMMINGS and COULD POSSIBLY HAVE DONE SOMETHING about MISTY AND RON IMO.

Reality, the responsibility STARTS WITH THE PARENTS when you are dealing with children under 18. :scared: jmo

[CANDYKISSES]

oh ITA...and didn't Cobra say this case would be solved a weeks ago?

MORE BS IMO and he is starting to make Lenny look like a STELLAR FELLA IMO. :sneaky:

Well, really he did that from the day he inserted himself into this tragedy and referred to Haleigh as a male. JMO tho.

[Peaches]

Well, while your stalking myspace accounts perhaps you can explain why Misty threatened Amber on hers with "I got your man and I'll get your baby too".

Now THAT'S creepy!


Sounds just what a silly teenage girl would do when the are after the same guy. Nothing new about this.................moo

[psbperu]

No news of Haleigh. Sad & frustrating for those following the case & the families concerned.

What is happening now on the board with rumor, innuendo & some facts thrown in for good measure is pretty normal considering the length of time Haleigh has been missing.

Ron, Misty & whole crew, including SO in the area, perhaps a neighbor or a friend of the family remain high on my suspicion meter.

So does drugs, a bizzaro wedding & trip to NY (that really was one for the books when your child is missing).

So after all the investigating LE has done...there is nothing concrete as to what happened to or where this child is.

How was this child removed so quietly from a bedroom where a 17 year old was supposedly sleeping? Plus the 17 year old "just happens" to get up at 3 a.m., before the boyfriend comes home from work, to get a glass of water & discovers the child missing.

Oh...followed by a wedding, one of the happiest events in one's life.
Go figure.

No satisfaction either in the answers given...in my opinion.

[?noanswer]

Why should they be questioned about being there? I think we are free to drive through any parking lot in this country we choose unless we have court orders saying that we can't. It is an apartment complex. It isn't a huge town. They could have family and/or friends living there. They didn't stop at this woman's apartment...They didn't even blow the horn. They drove through...I am not even sure the woman saw them. She sure didn't know the make or even color of the car.

The guy at the door could have been someone looking to purchase drugs off of Amber and NayNay....:wink:

The grandmother never said she saw them. She had to ask someone about information on the car. I think Amber saw him somewhere and told the GM. Also the GM said her apt. # was 3XX, which usually means on the 3rd floor. If a black person came to the door, it could just be coincidental. No way did she say JR was with him. I wonder if AB did see RC & MC somewhere and it made her mad, then she told the GM trying to get even. All these people, including KP, Cobra, AH, and TJH are crazy and seem to be playing games. JMO

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Crystal's child is missing and police have not cleared her but she's off limits.

Ron's child is missing and police have not cleared him but we should all just hammer away at him.

Are you seeing the difference here? If a man is involved in anyway he is automatically guilty.

I see the difference and it's really frightening to see how easy it is now for women to make any kind of false allegations.

Well, the pendulum has swung once and it will swing right back because of this kind of enabling IMO. :sad:

The ones who will be hurt by this are those who were truly hurt the most to start with, while those using retribution as an excuse for false allegations will stroll on forward IMO. :cursing:

[Peaches]

Oh, it's probably something that should be evaluated on a case by case basis, don't you think? IMO


NO.............and BTW it is against the law for some adult to beat up a teenager.

[Peaches]

what did i say bad about Haleigh?


Nothing FA. Do not take the bait.

Those who matter know that you have a good heart and all you want is for Haleigh to be found and those guilty of her disappearance be punished.

I get it and so do others.............DO NOT take the bait.

[Peaches]

I find your post offensive.

I never once said I know for a fact Chad is related to her. In any event, if you don't think LE or whatever officials did it, should have checked her out, let them know. I'm glad they did. I assume they are checking all RSOs in the area, and common sense tells me they would have checked to see if she was related to Chad.

Don't you believe RSOs should be registered and have their pic out there like that?

In any event, it seems any post that doesn't fit into your Ron & Misty did it theory (which is based on rumor) gets attacked.

If you don't think local RSOs should be investigated, that's your opinion...I don't agree with it and see no value in further debating it.


bunny,

Just ignore these post. They are baiting and hoping for you to be banned.

Just do not reply!

Keep the truth coming............it hurts some.

MOO

[CANDYKISSES]

Oh ok i didn't know that. I couldn't imagine Ron sending Jr up to the third floor to lure a 20 month old out........

Unbelievable, isn't it? There is no limit to the lows IMO. :thumbdown:

[CANDYKISSES]

The only way KP could ask for a change of venue is if Crystal is charged.

Well, that's possible bunny. Crystal hasn't been ruled out as a suspect either. :unsure:

[Peaches]

You do not know what LE believes. You can bet they are still investigating RC and they have more information than they have let out.


I can tell you for a fact that if LE thought Ron, Jr. was in danger, he would be removed from that house.

FACT..............

[Peaches]

i'm confused. I've heard people talking smack about Ronald's grandmother is old and confused and she probably didn't even go see the children the night haleigh went missing but i can't say anything about Ambers grandmother?

and do you believe Amber's an abused woman?


Boy..................you are right! Good catch, FA!

[PerneciaJane]

He's NOT THE VICTIM HALEIGH IS SHE ALWAYS BEEN SHE ALWAYS WILL BE

Haleigh is the victim and also her family is victims. I thought this board was to be a support for all victims. Her family are also victims Unless LE proves otherwise and they have not done so at this time period.

[Texas48]

I'm curious why you keep saying a 4 year old was sent to the door? Do you know something we don't?
Interesting why this little boy keeps getting thrown into the mix of things without proof...the word a poster posted in earlier post was..Disgusting..was that the word? I think so.

[bama__angel]

I can tell you for a fact that if LE thought Ron, Jr. was in danger, he would be removed from that house.

FACT..............



I'll even suggest that if Florida CPS had the slightest proof that Jr. was in any danger with Ron, he would be immediately removed from the home by an emergency child endagerment order from a family court judge and placed with an approved relative or foster care until the custody issue is determined......This is the reason that I know that Crystal and her attorney cant prove child abuse or Crystal attorney would have already filed an emergency order and not wait the 60 days for DCS to investigate......IMO

[Texas48]

if this is the kind of BS (my term) they wade thru every day, and apparently it is, I am almost GLAD they haven't found Haleigh, it gives me hope that she is at least with someone normal. What are they going to do with her when they find her, throw her back into this cesspool to sink or swim?
I'm sure they know how to deal with the mess there..if not..they are in trouble..lol..ITA with your post concerning Haleigh..

[?noanswer]

I can't listen because I am at work. I do have proof RC was there, the grandmothers call to 911 proves that and I'll take her word over RC's word anyday. Do you find Ronalds lawyers silence to be odd? Are they sorry they took on his case? Is that why they have not commented? I would think that Art Harris and others wouldn't risk a libel or slander suit, Ronald is not out defending his famed reputation, so yes, to me it is believable.

Ronald should focus on Haleigh and finding a job now. He has his childbride and son to help take care of.

moo

You should listen to the tape. The grandmother did NOT see Ron. She asked another person about the car when the 911 operator questioned her about it. She said someone had seen RC & Mistry driving in the parking lot. After one listens to the tape, it is apparent what AH and TJH reported earlier was not correct. JMO

[Texas48]

Texas, you are so grounded. I really appreciate your post trying to make us think before we open our mouths to post here.

Thanks............:thumbsup:YW Peaches..I try and read more NOW than post..you learn and see alot more by doing that....at times its too sad to even be funny..Ya know the old saying about throwing stones..??

[Peaches]

It was long winded, preachy and completely one-sided, making it hypocritical, at best, imo.


This post was from someone who does not come her often to trash anyone.

I think his post was right on target. Sorry he was not for bashing Ron.

[?noanswer]

Just listened again and did hear laughing in the background. We don't know who this was. It could have been other 911 operators in the background talking among each other for all we know.

Until I hear LE has arrested Amber's grandmother for filing a false report, I'm going to assume that she is telling the truth about what she saw that night.


The only thing she reported seeing was the black man at the door. The rest of it was actually hearsay from another party. JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Please show me a post where I say I am obsessed with Chad. I have not posted about Chad nearly as much as you post about RC, so if I'm obsessed, what does it make you re RC? LOL.

WOW, so is the OP saying there has been ANOTHER WEDDING????:ohmy:

You mean to tell me Crystal and Chad were able to sneak one by after the ruckus over Ron and Misty getting married????:scared: jmo

[Texas48]

I seriously hope Amber is not dealing drugs out of the ggma's house, seriously, so none of those people should be showing up there to buy them.I agree but IF drugs are ever found in that house I feel certain this baby will be placed somewhere else..

[CANDYKISSES]

I certainly agree with you and you can tell by this last episode things are getting desperate for KP. To bad she did not do a little investigating of her client before jumping in the fire.

That's what I was thinking too BamBam, she's simply looking for a way out now so she can ride off into the sunset and leave this place behind from what I've seen of her game. JMO:sneaky:

[?noanswer]

According to her own words the black man knocked on her door an hour after Ron and Misti were allegedly seen riding through the parking lot.

The part about Junior knocking on the door came from a preacher who thought he heard that but there is nothing to back up what he claims he heard. The ggm never said anything about Junior knocking on her door or asking for the boy. Heck she didn't even say the man asked for the boy.

The whole thing was just another attempt to slime Ron with nothing to back it up. It's really pathetic how low some people in the media are willing to go.

Evidently she never talked to anyone except the person(s) that told her they say R & M. She didn't open the door (I don't blame her) when the black man knocked. She never even mentioned JR in her call. JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

She saw Ronald. “He just cruised through and my daughter was coming through and they passed each other, and she (saw) his new wife…I’m the great grandmother, and I have custody of the baby and I’m very upset…” artharris.com


Why didn't Ronald use his new attorney to gain custodial rights? Cruising around seems sneaky and an awful way to intimidate an elderly lady.

moo
does anyone know why the ggrandma has custody of the child?

[Brattnt]

I am recalling former prostitutes going by the name Peaches and Bunny and so on are we to assume you are related...IMO

WTH?!...What on earth gives you, and a few others on here the right to spew this kind of nonsense?!...Attacking posters is NOT okay, and it's sad to see thats what it's come down to...HALEIGH is still missing, isnt that why we are all here?...Thats why I'm here...These personal attacks need to cease!...

JMO

[bama__angel]

WTH?!...What on earth gives you, and a few others on here the right to spew this kind of nonsense?!...Attacking posters is NOT okay, and it's sad to see thats what it's come down to...HALEIGH is still missing, isnt that why we are all here?...Thats why I'm here...These personal attacks need to cease!...

JMO


I'm really laughing at all of this for real......I feel like I am witnessing a fight between my 2 boys.....They are 7 and 10....I assume most of us are a little older than that.....IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

You should listen to the tape. The grandmother did NOT see Ron. She asked another person about the car when the 911 operator questioned her about it. She said someone had seen RC & Mistry driving in the parking lot. After one listens to the tape, it is apparent what AH and TJH reported earlier was not correct. JMO

Good heavens, if this had happened in the Cummings house, LAWDY, they would have been all over the person making the call vs the person seeing the car IYKWIM.

Good thing it wasn't that group or we'd be going days over on this one. I find TJ Hart to be MOST UNCREDIBLE and ART TO BE IN A TIE with COBRA at this time. jmo

[?noanswer]

The GGM called 911. She did not say she saw Ronald's car. She said her daughter saw him in the parking lot.

And she only reported it after the skinny short man came and knocked on the door. If that guy had not knocked on the door she probably would not have called at all.

I imagine she has custody of the baby because she volunteered to take care of the baby since Amber runs the roads partying.

Does she have legal custody? I guess she has physical custody because AB takes a little vacation down at the Putnam County every so often. If she does have legal custody, could she file for support from the father of the child? JMO

[Mimi428]

Amber's mother was charged with assaulting Misty, last October I think. And Amber's sister and Crystal have also had a fight.

Were links posted to the sources for that information previously? I've been gone quite a bit, but I will do a search for them if they have already been posted here. TIA

[CANDYKISSES]

WTH?!...What on earth gives you, and a few others on here the right to spew this kind of nonsense?!...Attacking posters is NOT okay, and it's sad to see thats what it's come down to...HALEIGH is still missing, isnt that why we are all here?...Thats why I'm here...These personal attacks need to cease!...

JMO


It has gone on all morning long Bratt, and it's absolutely disgusting. You can't imagine some of the insults that have been hurled here. barf

jmo

[Peaches]

Like the potty words Ron used on the 911 call? Dunno, must be a man thing, some shout to get their point across, some use potty words

YES..........but he was but he has an excuse. His child was missing and he was concerned..............scared!

What is Cobra's excuse.

I for one do not see the need to trash talk to get your point across.

Hey.........but that is just me. I was never around people who talked like this in everyday conservations. Thank God.

MOO

[titanfan217]

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet,but here is a short interview with Gale St. John. Most of it is about Adji,but there is a part in the beginning about Haleigh.She says she can't make public the "blind drive" because it would hinder the investigation.She also has a rant about Nancy Grace.IMO

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1416442


I had trouble listening to that one but didn't the guy say there is a RUMOR that Haleigh has been found?

[CANDYKISSES]

Are they married? good for them I knew KP would make all the difference in the world. any good lawyer would have advised them to get married and employment and Chad is working...looks like the playing field has been tilted. IMO Glad it wasn't advertised and done tastefully silent.

That's only in the world according to Tiff. Hopefully she can provide a link. :rolleyes:

Of course it's okay for Crystal to get married so Kim can get on with the rehabbing of the party people. It looks good in court, I'm sure. JMO. :loveeyes:

Oh dear, Tiff corrected her mistake above, so no such luck for those hoping for a wedding. :rose:

[Mimi428]

Why was Amber and Nay Nay laughing in the background?



When was it established that Amber & Nay Nay were at the great-grandmother's home during the 911 call?

I was under the impression that Amber's grandmother said that her daughter told her - not that Amber told her.

[Peaches]

I'll even suggest that if Florida CPS had the slightest proof that Jr. was in any danger with Ron, he would be immediately removed from the home by an emergency child endagerment order from a family court judge and placed with an approved relative or foster care until the custody issue is determined......This is the reason that I know that Crystal and her attorney cant prove child abuse or Crystal attorney would have already filed an emergency order and not wait the 60 days for DCS to investigate......IMO


So do I, angel. I have seen it happen in just an hours time by working for a school system. They do not play when they find "real" evidence or "real" suspension.

MOO

[Brattnt]

Shame on law enforcement in that town for chasing after innocent Ronald Cummings and charging him with drugs.
His next job application will want to know why b/c they will see his rap sheet.

Do you know when RC was last arrested for drugs, or anything for that matter?...TIA!

JMO

[Peaches]

I am recalling former prostitutes going by the name Peaches and Bunny and so on are we to assume you are related...IMO



I find this very offensive! PEACHES

[Peaches]

He had 2 drug arrests. One was dropped for the same reason Crystals lying to police case was dropped.

What has he lied about? Be specific and please don't claim they are too numerous to list like the person who said that last night claimed. That is a cop out.

Many parents of missing children have threatened to kill the person responsible. Thankfully the police and courts understand grief and what is does to people.

Cobra has said he has a new gun??? So freaking what. Cobra told him he'd put a gun in someone's mouth then turned around and claimed Ron said that. Cobra says a lot of things that are really not believable.


And..........I have several guns but I do not plan to shoot anyone.

[Brattnt]

Hopefully you know how to look UP. I just corrected that mistake. Something I've never seen you do, btw.

Post #385

:wub:

Then you must not have been around here to long...

JMO

[bama__angel]

I don't go by that name...you might let the ones that use the name know it is offensive.IMO



You know grma.....maybe she is from Georgia....maybe peaches is a nickname she was called because she has a peaches and cream complexion........IMO.......It's a shame if you find this offensive....

[Brattnt]

I don't know what you mean. Care to clarify?

I think my post was pretty clear...No need to clarify...:seeya:

JMO

[Peaches]

WTH?!...What on earth gives you, and a few others on here the right to spew this kind of nonsense?!...Attacking posters is NOT okay, and it's sad to see thats what it's come down to...HALEIGH is still missing, isnt that why we are all here?...Thats why I'm here...These personal attacks need to cease!...

JMO



Thank you for this post. I personally find it offensive to ask if I was related to prostitutes.:cursing:

And..........this is not in the least bit funny. MOO

[Mimi428]

ETA. I have never posted a mugshot. I posted a link the Federal Sex Offender website brochure for her.

What is her location, relative to Haleigh's residence at the time she disappeared?

I'm guessing that if someone was inclined to do so, links could be posted to every one of the 40+ registered S/O's that resided within a 5-mile radius of the house Haleigh lived in. But what would be the point, when LE reported that they immediately sought them out when Haleigh was reported missing?

Why would someone with that last name be any more relevant than a S/O who may have lived in the same vicinity?

[crymeariver2006]

Do you have a link to that myspace?

And again, I find your post offensive. I've now been called "obsessed with Chad" and a "stalker". You don't see me calling people names in my posts. Why do you attack people who don't believe Ron did it? If you don't want to sleuth Chad, why not just ignore my posts and keep posting your RC trash talk instead?


I have no interest in "sleuthing" Chad.

:shrug:

[CANDYKISSES]

grma...they didn't get married. I was wrong. Don't let sweet CANDYKISSES :wub: take you on her fantasy rides.

Please don't drag me into your FANTASY :loveeyes: for Crystal and Chad Tiff, it doesn't become you.
You posted it, I just asked for a link. :loveeyes:

JMO

[Brattnt]

Thank you for this post. I personally find it offensive to ask if I was related to prostitutes.:cursing:

And..........this is not in the least bit funny. MOO

I agree Peaches...That post was WAY out of line!...:thumbdown:

JMO

[Mimi428]

Physical violence is not allowed anywhere.

An adult is NEVER allowed to beat up someone else's child.

I'm sure LE agrees with you.

Darn shame the hair-splitting goes into a frenzy when it comes to smacking your own child (like say, for example, Ron hitting his own kids). Then we all get to hear about how it is OK to smack them this way or that, who is 'old school', who was switched as a child but turned out OK, yadda, yadda, yadda.

JMO

[bama__angel]

Yes it was. It was downright disgusting.


I find it ironic that posters have written over the last several weeks how mean hateful spiteful words are a form of abuse also.......See how easy it is to say or write things when you get angry you cant take back.....IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

I get it now. You felt the need to be childish and call 2 posters prostitutes because you didn't like anyone related to Crystal in any way being discussed. Got it.

Oh dear, time to update the list again. That is nothing short of disgusting IMO and certainly a TOS violation at best. :unsure:

WOW, JMO

[Brattnt]

wasn't angry and don't want to take it back ,Nothing was posted personally..can't help how some people took it and don't care. IMO

It was taken the way you meant for it to be...Your nannie nannie boo boo post proves that...

JMO

WHERE IS HALEIGH?!...

[bama__angel]

wasn't angry and don't want to take it back ,Nothing was posted personally..can't help how some people took it and don't care. IMO


I can only take you at your word.....and I always thought from reading your posts you were extremely caring......IMO

[Peaches]

so was the insinuation of that woman being related to Chad. See how it feels...IMO

WELL..................I said nothing about CHAD..........but you put my name in the mix and I think it is offensive to say the least.

and.............this is my signature Peaches

[crymeariver2006]

twisting words was showing similarities, not calling anyone names. take it how you want to IMO

Eh...earlier my words were somehow taken as defending an RSO.

Maybe I should have played the righteous indignation card?

:laugh:

[crymeariver2006]

Do you know she isn't related to Chad? Who insinuated she was? Can I ask why do you keep posting about her if you think she has nothing to do with the case? Do you think it was wrong for authorities to see her on the 9th of April and to post a fresh pic of her?

You're the one who keeps harping on her.

The "authorities" didn't post her picture or RSO listing on this board for help in determining if she was related to Chad. You did that.

This is not a site for "let's post all the sex offenders who have similar or same names" to people that may or may not be related to a case.

You might want to review the TOS for guidance.

[sleuth]

This gma did exactly what she should have done, unlike Misty who waited how long before being told to call le and on a missing child, no less. This gma did not overreact imo and I don't, for one second believe Ronald was there on coincidence or any good intentions. Past behavior predicts future behavior, Ronald was there to start trouble.

My Own Opinion

Right there with you Viking, I think at the rate children are being snatched, I'd be tempted to report the paper boy throwing my paper in the wrong place in my yard. Of course that is me being a loving grandmother, whose intentions would be for the best of my family. I don't know her and cannot speak for her, but understand her actions completely.
JMO

[crymeariver2006]

You were defending an RSO!...you thought it was shameful that I dragged a local RSO into this, and you didn't seem happy that the Feds have her pic out there.

Please show me the post where "the Feds" posted her picture on THIS board.

Please show me the post where "the Feds" determined that this woman is indeed related to this case.

Please show me the post where I defended an RSO.

[crymeariver2006]

She also lives in the area and has been convicted of molesting a child under 12. It is you who keeps harping on the name, not me. And I have not posted all sex offenders with similar or same names. I'm only interested in the local RSOs unless I'm given reason to believe it was an RSO that lived a long way away.

So, do you think it was wrong for authorities to talk to, and take her pic on the 9th?....maybe they should have left the poor RSO alone, because it wasn't fair to pick on her just cause she had the same last name and has lived in the same places? I bet you must feel real sorry for all the RSOs who had their doors knocked on that didn't even share a common surname. I don't, but we can each have our own opinion.

You can twist my words like a pretzel all day long if you like, you still can't tie that RSO to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, nor make her related to Chad.

[Peaches]

Jo Wallace does not scream about anything on this board, IMO


What?

:lol::lol::lol:

[Mimi428]

When the list I'm responding to is full of known lies my list would need to be a lot longer.


There is no proof Ron lied the night Haleigh disappeared. There is no proof Ron is on drugs There is no proof he abused anyone. I could go on and on but you and others see what you want to see. You wear rose colored glasses and judge this man because of your experiences and refuse to see that some women who claim abuse lie about it.

What does the last thing (some women lie about abuse) have to do with Ron's observed behavior & his arrest record?

I just don't see the connection.

And he has been arrested at least 3 times on drug charges - twice in Putnam county & once in Sarasota county.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

[COLOR="red"]Scroll up...And you are still doing it. Why are you so concerned to protect this child molester and why do you think the fact she is on the Registry is unfair. Do you know something we don't? You think she was falsely accused or something? I really don't get this![COLOR]


And, now I really am out of here..if you want to keep discussing Hilda, you'll have to do it without me!

Who?

Have a nice day!

Wait, didn't someone ask you for a link to the arrest of Amber's mother for assaulting Misty? Did you ever find that?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally Posted by thebunny
I also think it could be an SO, though I sure hope it's a family abduction and that she is safe.

I was going through them about a week ago, then suddenly noticed one I was interested in had a fresh pic taken just 2 days before, whereas all the other RSOs on her page's pics are still from 2007 & 2008, so it' made me think they may have spoken to her recently. I haven't been able to figure out if she's related to Chad or not, but she's lived in some of the same towns as him, and is now in Lake City. Check her out, but be warned, she's not pretty! I just wish I could find details of her offence to see if she may fit, but all it tells us is child under 12, and I've googled her and can't find anything.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...?personId=3289

And we should also remember Elizabeth Smart. I still very much hope Haleigh is alive and well.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=352291&page=21



Here is the post that started it all. You can clearly see the poster said the reason it interested her was because of the date the picture was taken. Crystal supporters twisted it to bring Chad and the possibility of her being related into it.

Did you miss the part that I put in red for you?

The "Crystal supporters" didn't twist anything, IMO.

[Motomom]

Which is it??

I do see by some posts it cannot include the victims dad, cuz, well you know. He's guilty, guilty and guily until proven innocent.

I honestly feel bad for some people. You never ever know when someone or their family member will turn the corner and be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then have that person put on the web and be accused without proof, ridiculed, and talked trash about. Our freedom was fought for this?? Are some so high and mighty this could never ever happen to one of our own blood??

***bully*** it's the same ole same ole IMO. I come here to read, hoping there is something CREDIBLE about Haleigh, yet all that is allowed here is Ronald bashing. I don't understand why the board is still open to be honest. I won't even waste my time with the artharris crap at this point. These people have turned this entire thing into a circus. Meanwhile, Haleigh still goes missing and just about forgotton if one was to read this board IMO. I guess no word on that Chad Reynolds guy? I'd go back and read previous threads but it's still the same, attacking Ron, spreading rumors, defending the mother of the year and attacking fellow posters. You know exactly what line out of this will get responded to too LOL. Seriously, are there any searches going on? Real searches? Even small ones would help. I've seen nothing new from LE or am I missing it? If I am could you please let me know.

I still don't believe Ron or Crystal had anything to do with Haleigh gone. I think someone else took her.. she's somewhere out there, dead or alive. I wonder how Junior is doing without her? Children that age tend to forget easy, I hope they are keeping her alive in his heart.

[Peaches]

Who observed Ron beating on anyone? And where on his arrest record are any charges for child abuse or lying? The abuse claims only came out when she was losing custody of her children. Neither she or her LE father who claimed he witnessed the abuse made those claims when the alleged abuse was occuring. That alone is enough to make me think both of them lied about it.


And, Crystal did not care to come back in 10 days with proof of any of her claims of abuse........etc.

She just left her children with Ron............She did not care enough to go back to court...............that tells me all I need to know.

MOO

[Mimi428]

Thank you for this post. I personally find it offensive to ask if I was related to prostitutes.:cursing:

And..........this is not in the least bit funny. MOO

Moral of the story (seems to me) is that when folks here direct their comments towards posters (& not stuff about the case), things go from bad to worse. Jo specifically remarked about that pages back & politely (IMO) asked that it cease. You notice it didn't. I'm sure you also noticed that blatant reference was made suggesting that someone was on a mission to defend registered sex offender. Another person asked if people were upset that Junior was not sent to lure out Amber's child.

But take heart, I'm sure the moderator will be here soon enough to clean it all out.

JMO

[Peaches]

That isn't what was done, imo. The discussion was about names, imo.


No so...............I am very offended by her post.

BTW...........I read somewhere that some think it was really funny!:sneaky:

[Motomom]

Originally Posted by thebunny
I also think it could be an SO, though I sure hope it's a family abduction and that she is safe.

I was going through them about a week ago, then suddenly noticed one I was interested in had a fresh pic taken just 2 days before, whereas all the other RSOs on her page's pics are still from 2007 & 2008, so it' made me think they may have spoken to her recently. I haven't been able to figure out if she's related to Chad or not, but she's lived in some of the same towns as him, and is now in Lake City. Check her out, but be warned, she's not pretty! I just wish I could find details of her offence to see if she may fit, but all it tells us is child under 12, and I've googled her and can't find anything.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...?personId=3289

And we should also remember Elizabeth Smart. I still very much hope Haleigh is alive and well.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=352291&page=21



Here is the post that started it all. You can clearly see the poster said the reason it interested her was because of the date the picture was taken. Crystal supporters twisted it to bring Chad and the possibility of her being related into it.


I can't see the picture, the link isn't working for me. Regardless it is interesting that a new picture was taken on 4/9 if that is the case. I know that certain offenders have certain restrictions, certain check ins. Some have to reregister every so many months I believe. I imagine LE is looking through all of the RSO's. Maybe when they bring them in for questioning they update the photos?

[Peaches]

I've posted on many cases where she posted under all of her nics and know she would not sit by while someone used her nic in comparison with prostitutes.


You are correct about that and neither will I. I find this very offensive!

[Peaches]

FA,there was a reason LE released the 911 call so fast. They were most likely being inundated with calls from the public wanting Ron arrested for using this 4 year old to attempt to kidnap a one year old at 10 o`clock at night. As I said before I believe AH and the bounty hunter thought they could get a couple weeks of publicity off of this one but LE stopped then in their tracks by releasing the tapes that proved all of it was lies. I can't understand a minister being involved with these guys. Has he ever been in Ron's house? Maybe LE will now investigate him. he has to have a motive to lie on Ron, a man of the cloth.....IMO


bam bam...................We knw that all call themself "preacher" are not good people. Who knows about this one. I do not and I do not believe anyone posting with us do either.

He could have just said he was a preacher. Who knows.

[Motomom]

Did the court create a special parenting class for RC that allows him to backhand his children as long as he does not beat them down into the floor?

There is NO proof that Ron backhanded his children. NONE what so ever! If there is proof, please provide it so I can revise my opinion. Proof is not a scorned woman spreading hearsay from relatives, that didn't report the incident. The pictures of the school yard accident won't work either, as that was documented by the school.

[Peaches]

o.k. I truly did not mean to offend anyone I was merely showing similarities, if I did offend anyone I am sorry, no where did I say anyone on here is a prostitute, I compared names as others were comparing names such as the last name Griffis being a RSO and being related to Chad.IMO


I do not believe for one minute that you did not mean what you posted and you selected my name because we do not agree on anything about this case.

I am very offrended!

[Peaches]

I am way behind again, but if I recall - the company fired Ron because he abanded his job. This is not a mom and pop operation, I would think this company has a ton of attorney's and they know what they are doing.

As far as - MY BOLD

Can you please provide a link to these PEOPLE?



This was hashed and rehashed yesterday...............just read all the post. Thanks

[Motomom]

my bold

Well, some of us do believe that and if you come here to read, you'll most likely have to read things about the father that was supposed to be caring for the child that is missing.

That's how it works and judging from your registration date, I'm amazed you haven't figured that out yet.

Oh I've been here all along. There are those of us that do not believe Ron or Crystal had anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh. Maybe you need to figure that out? :rolleyes:

[crymeariver2006]

There is NO proof that Ron backhanded his children. NONE what so ever! If there is proof, please provide it so I can revise my opinion. Proof is not a scorned woman spreading hearsay from relatives, that didn't report the incident. The pictures of the school yard accident won't work either, as that was documented by the school.

Bolding mine


And for someone who complains about the "Ron bashing", you have no problem with the same treatment of Crystal.

JMO

[Motomom]

I don't know but I too find it interesrting that she had her picture taken very recently.

For the posters who are outraged over her picture on here....registered sex offenders have NO right to privacy. They gave up those rights when they molested children.

I guess you aren't allowed to post RSO's if their last names match up with people involved? IDK.... RSO shouldn't be off limits to discuss, no matter what their last name is. IMO. Any word on the wearabouts of Chad Reynolds? LE must be so frustrated with this case and these people.

[crymeariver2006]

I do not believe for one minute that you did not mean what you posted and you selected my name because we do not agree on anything about this case.

I am very offrended!

And I too was offended when a poster called me a liar one day because I heard something on tv that they didn't hear.....oh where does it end?

[Peaches]

Why are you so offended? This is the internet, not your real life.


Of course, this is a message board but if I should not be offended why are you OFFENDED when things are posted about Cyrstal?

Same difference.

I am a person who has been compared to "The Cleavers" so I do not think my know lifestyle suggest in any way that I do not have morals...............

I am offended! I find this not funny at all.

[Motomom]

There are accusations that he backhanded his children. From several people. I have not heard that Crystal said it. Neither have you.
The accusations are LE job to investigate. To date, LE has not issued a statement proving true or false. Until proven false, it is a possible that he did.

Crystal said it on national TV. She said she learned about it when she got down here for this incident. She was repeating what she was told. IIRC Ron was at her cousins (??) and Haleigh ..what were the words she used, bumped into him or.. smarted off to him and he backhanded her and she fell flat on her face. She was sitting next to Marie at the time she relayed this story. Just going by memory though, don't have the link, I'm sure it's in the links thread.... So where's the "several" people at?? They all witnessed this ONE incident or there are more? Accusations are not FACTS. JMO

[crymeariver2006]

I guess you aren't allowed to post RSO's if their last names match up with people involved? IDK.... RSO shouldn't be off limits to discuss, no matter what their last name is. IMO. Any word on the wearabouts of Chad Reynolds? LE must be so frustrated with this case and these people.

Nobody said that. What's not allowed is to post an RSO with the express purpose of trying to tie them to the case or into a familial relationship (with no proof whatsoever) with someone involved.

[2boysMom]

I'm just totally amazed reading this thread and so many others, why is this section calle Haleigh Cummings? It should be Bash Ronald because that is all I see some of you doing. You take such joy and pleasure in tearing him down and honestly, why? Is it making your life better? are you happier with yourselves? What motives do you honestly have? His daughter is missing, of course it was "on his watch" so he obviously did something to her, or was involved in some way. I mean aren't all children that are missing, missing because of their parents? I mean maybe Mark Lunsford shouldn't have been working, maybe Polly's parents shouldn't have been sleeping (although it was night) and so on and so on. It isn't like we have proof or even an inkling of proof he was involved.

As for this latest 911 fiasco, many of you are going by what AH wrote on his site, ignoring the fact he only quoted a few key phrases. Ignoring the fact that quite possibly grandma said more than " ron was crusing the parking lot" . Someone posted earlier, well at least grandma did what misti didn't by calling the police right away. Um she called an hour later! She stated that Ron was crusing the parking lot, Amber saw him. Then an hour later a black man came up to the door and is probably connected to Ron. She didn't know the color of the car even, so she didn't see him! And the black man, um maybe he had the wrong door? Maybe he did stop there to see Amber? There is nothing connecting him to Ron. YET all the Ron haters jump right on that and believe that he MUST have something to do with Ron, he MUST have been there to lure this child out of the house. I'm amazed at how quickly every little thing posted or said about Ron is twisted till some are even in glee waiting for "Ron's downfall". And yes, I have seen some comment they were waiting for that, it was a thread removed, Monday part 2 I believe it was called, although Bash Ronald would have been a better title.

I'm just so frustrated to come here and see all this bashing constantly, over and over about the same things. And usually it pans out that it was nothing. This 911 report is just a woman reporting what her granddaughter told her, and do you think it may be possible the granddaughter has a motive? Oh couldn't be possible could it? Only Ron has motives.

And unfortunately this doesn't bring focus on Haleigh, how often is her name even mentioned? It just brings more mudslinging on the families.

Thanks for this excellent post!

[Motomom]

Bolding mine


And for someone who complains about the "Ron bashing", you have no problem with the same treatment of Crystal.

JMO

I try not to discuss Crystal. Only the facts about Crystal, which were documented, not rumors. In fact, I see very little bashing of Crystal on this board, what I do see is the same old discussions about Crystal not having her children, which is all documented. That's a fact.

It's the same comeback all of the time IMO.. yet the bashing of Ronald and his family goes on and on and on by more than a handful of people. See, I stepped (ok I was forced out for a bit) out of the box. I read, didn't post. Got privilage back and read and didn't post because I cannot sit here for hours on end bashing Ron based on Rumors. I don't defend Ron for his wrong doings, such as leaving his job.. and I don't come back with the question of whether Crystal is working either.. so you are wrong :)

I enjoy discussing this case, but often can't post because I am trying to not stoop to that level of having to bash Crystal..

[PerneciaJane]

You are correct about that and neither will I. I find this very offensive!

I found it offensive and my nic wasn't even involved.

I have not posted here in a long time but this thread is ridicules bashing the parent of a victim that hasn't been named a suspect.
I don't understand why that is allowed even if it is only someones opinion.
I thought this use to be a victims support board, The same thing happened with the Francisco case and that is when I stopped posting here. I see some of the same posters are still bashing the victims families. I find that extremely distasteful to do so on a whim with no evidence whatsoever. :thumbdown:

[CANDYKISSES]

Oh I've been here all along. There are those of us that do not believe Ron or Crystal had anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh. Maybe you need to figure that out? :rolleyes:

Oh Motomom, :thumbup:those that profess they know seem to know very little IMO. There are so few facts we know, but the select few who know things like Junior trying to lure Amber's child out at TEN PM....:scared:

Well, you know....JMO.

How absurd to believe anyone claiming a small child would be on the third floor of an apartment building trying to lure a ONE YEAR OLD (according to Amber's Grandmother) out the door....just too much IMO.

[Motomom]

Nobody said that. What's not allowed is to post an RSO with the express purpose of trying to tie them to the case or into a familial relationship (with no proof whatsoever) with someone involved.

But there were tons of other RSO's posted early on weren't there?? They were not tied to this case, as of yet. We dont' know WHO is tied to this case right now cause LE isn't talking.

[crymeariver2006]

I try not to discuss Crystal. Only the facts about Crystal, which were documented, not rumors. In fact, I see very little bashing of Crystal on this board, what I do see is the same old discussions about Crystal not having her children, which is all documented. That's a fact.

It's the same comeback all of the time IMO.. yet the bashing of Ronald and his family goes on and on and on by more than a handful of people. See, I stepped (ok I was forced out for a bit) out of the box. I read, didn't post. Got privilage back and read and didn't post because I cannot sit here for hours on end bashing Ron based on Rumors. I don't defend Ron for his wrong doings, such as leaving his job.. and I don't come back with the question of whether Crystal is working either.. so you are wrong :)

I enjoy discussing this case, but often can't post because I am trying to not stoop to that level of having to bash Crystal..

Okay, so calling her a "scorned woman" is not bashing her?

Gotcha. :wink:

[Peaches]

I am not offended personally by anything anyone posts about anybody on this blog.

IMO you took the original post out of context. The poster was trying to show by comparison. I did not read it as calling you a name.


No I did not and others agree with me.

I am very offended!

[Motomom]

Hi mom, how are you?? I know what you mean, I just skipped half dozen pages because of what you just said. No, sorry to say, I haven't heard nothing on Haleigh. Don't think I missed it either on the pages I skipped. Haleighs name is barely mentioned anymore, or so it seems. It is sad isn't it. Hopefully soon we will hear some actual and factual news. And whoever did this, spends the rest of their life in jail. Hang in there.

I'm good.. actually have to get off of here cause I've been slacking majorly today :) I was watching JVM at 5am.. it was on and I don't think she even mentioned Haleigh..course I was half asleep. I hope that WHOEVER did this is caught and caught soon. This little girl deserves a burial (if she is not of this world any longer), the families need some sort of closure imo. It's sad all the way around. I'm wondering if any evidence came back from the home at all. I haven't seen that either, but I guess they wouldn't share that information at this point in time anyways. LE could be alot closer than we think. I think some of us got spoiled from CA case and all of the information that we've been given.. Still praying for Haleigh.

[Peaches]

I found it offensive and my nic wasn't even involved.

I have not posted here in a long time but this thread is ridicules bashing the parent of a victim that hasn't been named a suspect.
I don't understand why that is allowed even if it is only someones opinion.
I thought this use to be a victims support board, The same thing happened with the Francisco case and that is when I stopped posting here. I see some of the same posters are still bashing the victims families. I find that extremely distasteful to do so on a whim with no evidence whatsoever. :thumbdown:



Thank you for your comments. I appreciate your taking the time to post today.

[CANDYKISSES]

I found it offensive and my nic wasn't even involved.

I have not posted here in a long time but this thread is ridicules bashing the parent of a victim that hasn't been named a suspect.
I don't understand why that is allowed even if it is only someones opinion.
I thought this use to be a victims support board, The same thing happened with the Francisco case and that is when I stopped posting here. I see some of the same posters are still bashing the victims families. I find that extremely distasteful to do so on a whim with no evidence whatsoever. :thumbdown:

PJ, the forum is not set up to be a victim support board IMO. It's a forum to discuss the missing child Haleigh Cummings as well as theories on her whereabouts. This case has had quite a cast of characters from what I've seen and they have taken on a life of their own.

JMO, but if IS was a VICTIM SUPPORT BOARD, wouldn't that be prejudicial to the defendants in some of these cases. I think people are becoming aware of gender discrimination among other things like the presumption of guilt until proven innocent in some of the cases and they are speaking out. Regarding the NF board, I have never put an unkind word up concerning Christine, imo she is and was a victim of whatever happened too.
JMO

[Peaches]

Well, that is sad then, but she did apologize and explain her intentions.


No what is sad is that she meant what she said and tried to side step it................MOO Taking the easy way out.

IF............she had said she was sorry for her words. That would be different.

MOO

[Motomom]

Okay, so calling her a "scorned woman" is not bashing her?

Gotcha. :wink:

LOL.. it is what it is. :wink: Too funny.. post after post after nauseating post of Ron being a dealer, a user, an abuser.. the list goes on and on.. yet scorned woman gets your attention LOL.

Seriously, that's mild as to my true opinion of Crystal :sleep: BUT.. she is the mother of a missing child, and I feel for her. I am sure she is in pain, as is Ron IMO over the loss of this little girl. I hope they get her back.

[CANDYKISSES]

The only person that is still posting about Junior is you, Candy. It was determined pages ago that Junior was not mentioned at all by the GGM that called 911. Therefore, Junior was not at the door.

How interesting, you would find it necessary to dismiss that when it's found to be false because of all who were touting it as truth and fact. I look forward to the same kind of response when those pesky little rumors slip out in the future concerning Crystal. :thumbup: JMO

[Peaches]

Yeah, we get that. You've repeated it over and over again in all it's blazing red glory.

Problem is, this isn't about YOU and imo, never was. Can we get back to the subject of the forum now please?

Thanks


Tiffany.............I suggest you follow our own advise........:w00t:

[CANDYKISSES]

Does that SO have connection to Haleigh's case?!

Possibly, unless you know something we don't. :sad: JMO

[Motomom]

Oh and mom Chad Reynolds IS still missing, which I continue to find very disturbing

Thank you.. yeah it is quite disturbing isn't it. Just odd that he goes missing around the same time and I just don't like the idea of ANY RSO whereabouts not being known. I mean.. we have too many of them out there. I can't get past my initial theory that it was a SO that has taken this little girl..registered or not.

[crymeariver2006]

Possibly, unless you know something we don't. :sad: JMO

What is her possible connection?

Aside from her last name and where she has lived in the past?

[Owlface]

RC will have to be behind bars and charged with his mug on all the national stations for his club members here to realize that he is not the person they so admire.

No, the RC supporters will always be RC supporters. I saw it happen in the Scott Peterson trial - he was sentenced to death and his supporters STILL thought he was innocent.

You could have a video tape of Scott killing Laci and his supporters still will think he's innocent. I can see the same thing happening in this case.

[Peaches]

An apology is an apology. It is your choice to accept it or not.


Not so.............if you do not say you regret your words, it is not so.

[CANDYKISSES]

What is her possible connection?

Aside from her last name and where she has lived in the past?

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:TfnwSOYA-p4J:www.associatedcontent.com/article/1482322/haleigh_cummings_missing_person_search.html+Sherif f+everyone+is+a+suspect+Haleigh&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Anything from extending the area to everyone being a suspect IMO.

jmo

[debbadoo]

Just lurking......does ANYONE here remember why we are all here? Anyone? HALEIGH CUMMINGS! Let's get the focus back on this little girl.....SHE is the victim here........not any of you poor pitiful posters:angry:! Thank you! Back to lurking!

[CANDYKISSES]

There is no comparison between the cases. Police were focusing on Scott early on. There has been nothing indicating they are focusing on Ron. They have said they are satisfied with his account of the times in question. And they haven't ruled anyone out....including Crystal and Chad.

Correct bookie and the idea of a MAN being responsible is almost inherent when seeing some of the commentary on this case. Even on the air, KIM feels it necessary to blame Ron for Crystal's drug use.

There seems to be a real problem with the idea some people don't find him guilty of anything at this time and the mere suggestion of personal responsibility regarding a woman is met with such anger IMO. I don't understand that myself. JMO :sad:

[Peaches]

Maybe there's hope for the .... and the .... then.

:thumbup:


What? Is this English? I did not understand a word that you have written. Please explain. Thank you.

[crymeariver2006]

I think you are right, LE needs to be informed of this women. They most likely know but just to make sure.

Well then send her information straight on to the tip line by all means!

[CANDYKISSES]

Your opinion only. Not mine. Bruises don't appear as soon as a fall happens. They take time to form. The school, who witnessed the fall, and the dr's that treated her on 2 trips to the hospital didn't report abuse. Since they didn't it's more reasonable to believe her injuries were the result of a playground accident then from a cousin claiming months later that she saw Ron backhand Haleigh then said nothing to anyone about it.

Especially the face bookie. Friday DH was fixing a window and the storm window above came out and sliced right above the eyebrow pretty good....well, just this AM the bruising came out on the lid beneath the cut. The facial injuries can be very deceiving and falling from the monkey bars for a child can be critical IMO.

[Peaches]

If DCF finds no proof of abuse will you finally admit that not all women who claim abuse are really abused?

I want to wait for proof because I know not all women claiming abuse really are abused. I want to wait for proof because I followed the Duke Rape case and saw what happened when a lying, conniving woman claimed rape when she wasn't raped. I want to wait for proof because I don't think anyone should be prosecuted or persecuted on the words of a woman who waits years to make the claims.


Correct.........bookie.

Not all people have the resources that the Duke boys did for attornies. Thank God their parents were loaded!

[crymeariver2006]

She looked like she was wishing this interview would get over with. She was twisting her neck, her hands, rubbing her arms and legs. Maybe she just needed something to calm her down. MOO

Yeah, that's the impression I got when Ron was whining to the reporter at the tattoo shop "I can't do what I want to do because of cameras following me around"

Maybe he just needed something to calm him down.

[PerneciaJane]

If DCF finds no proof of abuse will you finally admit that not all women who claim abuse are really abused?

I want to wait for proof because I know not all women claiming abuse really are abused. I want to wait for proof because I followed the Duke Rape case and saw what happened when a lying, conniving woman claimed rape when she wasn't raped. I want to wait for proof because I don't think anyone should be prosecuted or persecuted on the words of a woman who waits years to make the claims.

:thumbsup::beer::beer::thumbsup

[crymeariver2006]

Correct.........bookie.

Not all people have the resources that the Duke boys did for attornies. Thank God their parents were loaded!

Loaded?

:confused:

And that somehow makes it easier for them? How does that repair their sons' names?

[crymeariver2006]

If DCF finds no proof of abuse will you finally admit that not all women who claim abuse are really abused?

I want to wait for proof because I know not all women claiming abuse really are abused. I want to wait for proof because I followed the Duke Rape case and saw what happened when a lying, conniving woman claimed rape when she wasn't raped. I want to wait for proof because I don't think anyone should be prosecuted or persecuted on the words of a woman who waits years to make the claims.

And if Crystal ever said she was assaulted while being levitated in mid air, I'm right there with you!

[crymeariver2006]

I'm glad LE released the tape too...it's about the first thing they've released in this case. Makes me think they feel sorry for RC and didn't want to see his name dragged through the mud again by the CS team.

Hey, did you ever find that link for Amber's mother's arrest for assaulting Misty?

[panache]

Question!

Is there a link where the school authorities determined that Haleigh's accident was from a fall on the monkey bars? Or is that from Ron and his attys? Didn't I read back early on this case, the school said Haleigh tripped over a sidewalk curb? There has to be some kind of documentation the school is required to fill out.

moo

[Owlface]

She lost me at the point where she told the Judge that one of the reasons Haleigh had missed 13 Doctor's appointments in the short period of time she had custody of her, was because she couldn't be bothered getting out of bed to take her.

I don't believe that what you posted is true - will you supply a link if you are posting it as fact and not your opinion?

[crymeariver2006]

Why leave out dad??? Why leave out Jr.???

Because they weren't in the video, being suggested "needing something to calm them down"?

Maybe you should take the post into its context.

[Peaches]

I don't believe that what you posted is true - will you supply a link if you are posting it as fact and not your opinion?


Owlface, I believe that it was ONLY 12 doctor appointments that Crystal had missed and yes, she told the judge that she just did not want to get out of bed sometimes.

It is all in the court documents that are posted on the link pages.

It is true.......in black and white and a court document.

[crymeariver2006]

But you don't believe the video's of Ron, do ya??

That has nothing to do with someone viewing a video of Crystal and suggesting that she "needed something to calm her down".

[crymeariver2006]

Me 2...but will we get jumped on for discussing a perhaps wrongly accused RSO?

Nope. Only if you try to make the claim, or assumption that he MUST be related to someone in this case because he kinda sorta drove past Chad's uncle's cousin's girlfriend's sister's husband's house sometime in the past year.

[crymeariver2006]

So you disagree, I stand by my choice of words from watching and listening to Crystal on AH site. When Crystal puts herself voluntarily out there for public viewing then we each have a right to form opinion's. Just like the RDI gives their opinion on his voluntary interview and involuntary ,camera shoved in his face remarks.
What make you right and me wrong?

Genetics?

:laugh:

[2boysMom]

Does Chad Reynolds have any connection? Do you think he should be off limits too?

I've been asking about him since way back. i want to know more about him. Has he passed a poly? I just have an odd feeling about him because we have heard so little about him.

[panache]

Wasn't that one of the incidents Kim Picazio was checking into?

I hope so. I wonder if anyone bothered to check if in fact the school playground has monkey bars. IMO, if they do, they should be removed before another child gets injured.

moo

[Owlface]

Owlface, I believe that it was ONLY 12 doctor appointments that Crystal had missed and yes, she told the judge that she just did not want to get out of bed sometimes.

It is all in the court documents that are posted on the link pages.

It is true.......in black and white and a court document.

I asked to see the link because I don't believe Crystal had custody at the time. I believe that Crystal and Ron were together at the time. I have never understood why it was Crystal's sole responsibility to take them to their dr's appts, why couldn't Ron do it. IF Ron was truly the more responsible parent he would have made sure his child(ren) got to the doctor.

[Peaches]

I asked to see the link because I don't believe Crystal had custody at the time. I believe that Crystal and Ron were together at the time. I have never understood why it was Crystal's sole responsibility to take them to their dr's appts, why couldn't Ron do it. IF Ron was truly the more responsible parent he would have made sure his child(ren) got to the doctor.


He was at work. :lol::lol::lol:

His grandmother offered to take her and the baby to the doctor but she did not like to ride with her was one of her excuses.

I noticed ----- bookie, posted the link for you.

Did you read it?

[crymeariver2006]

Ain't gonna work... If she is related to CG it will come out sooner then later..Trying to make her status funny just ain't selling.MOO


"IF" being the operative word.

Trying to make her related to CG 'just cause' isn't selling too well either.

Or are you just hoping she's related to Chad because that would just give you something else for the Crystal haters to gnaw on?

[panache]

*snipped*

ETA. If LE were at all concerned for Jr's safety, they would have removed him from the home.

Honest question because I really would like to know, can LE legally remove a child from a parents home? Wouldn't it be a judge that would determine that? Could LE petition the court to request such an action?

If you know.

[Owlface]

It's true. She said that in the custody hearing and it's in the transcript of tht hearing.


http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/2005-Documents-Claim-Haleigh-Cummings-Wandered-Off/ecfIOIQdpEyY0r9dGW3W-A.cspx

The transcripts showed that there were indeed 12 missed or re-scheduled appts. Looking at the dates I BELEIVE it was when they were still together and Ron had just as much responsibility to take them to the doctor as she did. The fact that she accepts responsibility for Ron's actions as well as her own is something that abused women do. They are made to believe that everything is their fault.

(And, to anticipate what's been talked about before - I always made sure my children made their doctors appointments whether I had to work or not - it's what responsible parents do.) I haven't ever seen evidence that Ron was working during the scheduled appointments.

[panache]

I asked to see the link because I don't believe Crystal had custody at the time. I believe that Crystal and Ron were together at the time. I have never understood why it was Crystal's sole responsibility to take them to their dr's appts, why couldn't Ron do it. IF Ron was truly the more responsible parent he would have made sure his child(ren) got to the doctor.

Theresa told NG that she took Haleigh for her medical checkups for Turner's disease.

moo