Monday, April 20

[FoxySly]

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BullyJo, Candy, Bookie, FA & the few others... THANK YOU very much for keeping it real, I appreciate your TRUTHFUL posts very much & for trying to keep the rumors in check also, y'all ROCK :thumbup: !!!

On amber's booking her DOB: 3/29/1989 would make her 4 1/2 years younger than Ron?

IF Ron is the Father to her baby that would have put them at ages: her 19 & him 23?

Sly

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[Lovethechild]

I share that opinion. That is why she cannot keep the time line straight, she did not follow the original script and her little druggie mind got confused.

That kinda fits with her getting upset during a walk-through with LE.

[Lovethechild]

I read somewhere on a blog that someone posted that Ronald commented that Haleigh's case doesn't get the press that Caylee's does.....so just to throw this out there for conversation.....do you think it is possible that RC set this up for donation money and attention?

He certainly has enjoyed the donations.

What really sealed my opinion of him was when he got the tattoo. There was a 100 man search team looking for Haleigh while he was getting ink on his body paid for by donation money.


That has crossed my mind. I love the way your mind works!

edited to say: I don't think he would have killed her for this reason but maybe has her hidden???

[Squidward]

I read somewhere on a blog that someone posted that Ronald commented that Haleigh's case doesn't get the press that Caylee's does.....so just to throw this out there for conversation.....do you think it is possible that RC set this up for donation money and attention?

He certainly has enjoyed the donations.

What really sealed my opinion of him was when he got the tattoo. There was a 100 man search team looking for Haleigh while he was getting ink on his body paid for by donation money.

While he was marrying his sweety LE officials were looking for his missing daughter :scared: I think he knows what happened that night. :crying:

[Lovethechild]

It would certainly fit with his cockiness...Like....:thumbdown:

"Do you know who I am?"

[Squidward]

Yeah, she messed up from the beginning with the 911 call. Then old Ronald had to dramatize it with his rant of killing the person that took his daughter when he finds them ........and so on......

My husband tells me all the time I'm too emotional when watching stuff on TV. When someone TRULY cries, I cry with them, guess he's right. :unsure:

I have seen Ron "pleas" for his daughter and have never felt they were 'real', I've not cried with him, in the Sandra Cantu case I have cried with her family each time they have been shown. :crying:

Ron just seems so fake to me, I hope I am wrong but I think he is very fake. MOO

Prayers for Haleigh! and Prayers for Sandra's family, may their angel rest in peace.

[Lovethechild]

My husband tells me all the time I'm too emotional when watching stuff on TV. When someone TRULY cries, I cry with them, guess he's right. :unsure:

I have seen Ron "pleas" for his daughter and have never felt they were 'real', I've not cried with him, in the Sandra Cantu case I have cried with her family each time they have been shown. :crying:

Ron just seems so fake to me, I hope I am wrong but I think he is very fake. MOO

Prayers for Haleigh! and Prayers for Sandra's family, may their angel rest in peace.


Glad to hear I'm not the only one who does that. Ron does seem as phoney as a $3 bill.

[Lovethechild]

Hmm, this whole time I have thought he plans on keeping Misty in lockdown for a very long time. I don't see him wanting to get rid of Misty anytime soon. I also think that no matter who Ronald married, he'd look the same way he did the day he married Misty, miserable.

moo

IMO...he wants to make sure she doesn't "talk"

[Squidward]

Exactly. Also has his moms name above his heart, iirc. Oh, I also believe TN is in the know as well.

moo

I keep going back and forth over TN's knowledge of the events of that night. IMO Misty knows what happened, I think Ron does too, even if he was not involved.

TN I am really not sure, she seems to really care about Haleigh, then at times I think she's just protecting Ron :rolleyes: Hope I'm wrong.

[Squidward]

I know what you mean squid. I am in the minority when it comes to my thoughts on TN. I didn't believe her from the start and I do realize many people believe she is sincere. I hope I am proven wrong, but until then I will choose to believe TN knows and her actions and behavior lead me to believe...she knows.

moo

Isn't that sad? I feel so bad for suspecting she knows something, but I think she does. MOO :crying:

[Squidward]

Remember when Geraldo confronted Ronald and Ronald's dad told him to back off and said "thats my son" well it was Teresa that followed Geraldo out to the street yelling.

Reminds me of my friend. She has a 14 year old son that is constantly into trouble at school, home and anywhere he goes but she will defend him, lie for him and fight the world for him even when she knows he is wrong.....
She does it because she feels guilty for the way her son is.

TN is like that too.

Do you think she would protect him if a child's life, her/his grandchild's life depended on it?

I know people who have protected their kids through many things even (alleged) murder, I just can't imagine protecting someone even a son, daughter in a case like this. :crying:

The "tot mom's" parents have proved me wrong :rolleyes:. I just know that if I or my husband ever laid a hand on our kids either set of grandparents would not support us, nor 'protect' us.

[Squidward]

It is sad. What's also sad is the lack of responsibility and accountability that was not instilled upon or taught to Ronald Cummings. Nothing is ever his fault. I don't believe (since day one) that RC has ever acknowledged or taken responsibility for one negative thing thrown his way. And when truths are thrown at him, he still denies the very fact that they have it on record and have witnesses who state otherwise. Thus, we are left with "teflon Ron".:wink:

moo

well I hope the "teflon" has worn off :wink: something has got to stick sooner or later!

[Squidward]

First time in a long time that we've has two threads in one day on this board. Thanks tinkerbell for starting part II.

I had a really long day today (crazy at work and trying to keep up here) I was dead tired but when I tried to go to sleep all I could think about were the events of the day and if Haleigh is still alive and what those other kids are going thru with such loser parents, so here I am back again.

I know I'm going to kick myself for it tomorrow...I mean later today :closedeyes:

I'm very happy that another thread had to be started for Haleigh!!

I still don't understand the 1,000 posts thing, but am very glad for HALEIGH!! :wub:

It has been a long day for following Haleigh's case, I just hope it's gotten LE a step closer to finding her.

Prayers for Haleigh, and all the missing.

[Squidward]

Yes, I think she has proven that she will and has since Haleigh is still missing and the case appears to be going cold. How far parents like them and the Anthony's will go to protect them is still to be seen but when it comes to conviction of a crime their child has committed they will not help in any conviction of their child. Denial is the term phase for it but deep down, they know. But parents love their children no matter what. And I can't honestly say that it is fair to ask that of any parent.

RC is just a male version of CA. His parent are not of the same social or educational class as Casey's parents but they are very much alike in the relationship as parents to their offspring that have the problems that RC and CA have in common.

I meant your friend with the 14 year old son. Do you think if it ever came to it in the future she would protect him (an adult) over his (minor) children?

I know there are the Anthony's and others, I just can't grasp the concept, maybe cause my kids are only 8 and 5, I just can't imagine "protecting" an adult even if they were my child.

[Squidward]

Exactly. I'm a crier too but I never cried with Ron. Nothing about his performance seemed real to me at all.

Sandra's funeral broke me up. The horse drawn carriage, her mom...it was heart wrenching.

Oh the horse drawn carriage , still brings me to tears.

Sorry for the OT but my daughter is 8, and LOVES horse, we've been to several "horse camps" and lessons. I had the TV on and my daughter walked in, her reaction was "OMG horses, look how pretty" .... "mom what are they pulling?" :crying:

[Squidward]

Tragic. I faced a similar situation myself, how do you explain that. You shouldn't have to.

sorry ot

moo

You really shouldn't have to ... but I did, I had to, and I cried and my daughter hugged me and said "it's OK Sandra's with the angels now" :crying:

I just don't understand how anyone could harm a child :sad:

[Themis]

Reading Art's comments on the Nay Nay interview.

#29 Jrs' story not much use according to FBI experts.
Tiffany, regarding your comment about Art Harris' #29 comment on his website is really no more than what we read back on February 24, 2009 per this link:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132095&catid=3

It's those last moments before Haleigh Cummings disappeared that police want to know about. They are relying on a four-year-old, Haleigh's little brother, Ronald Junior, for help.

IF you can believe Annette Sykes, she said: "He was asleep. I got there 10 minutes after we noticed she was gone. I had Junior, he said he didn't know anything...said he was asleep," Haleigh's great grandmother, Annette Sykes, told First Coast News on Monday." Monday was 2-23-09.

Again, based on what Sykes told the news she (Sykes) got to the mobile home shortly after Haleigh had been reported missing. She (or others) would have had to question Junior immediately and the above was what Junior told her and/or others on the scene.

But then...it got reported in the same article (paraphrasing) supposedly detectives have talked to the child. Relatives on both sides say he told police he saw a man in a ski mask come in their trailer and leave with his big sister.
This is a contradictory statement to what Sykes told the reporter!

Lastly, Sykes said that: "They questioned Junior. I asked them (police) about it. They couldn't tell me anything other than he's a little child. He was questioned and the story went from one thing to another and another," says Sykes.

Summary:

1. Sykes first said Junior saw nothing; he was asleep.
2. Relatives on both sides say Junior saw a man in a ski mask take Haleigh.
3. Sykes said police told her Junior kept changing his story as he was questioned.

I cannot keep blaming all these inconsistencies on reporters. In any event, at the core of it is Junior's account(s) were of no help to police. And I discount the one version of Junior's statements as relayed by Crystal to Rivera then and now.

[JMO * Themis]

[Pag Boi]

My husband tells me all the time I'm too emotional when watching stuff on TV. When someone TRULY cries, I cry with them, guess he's right. :unsure:

I have seen Ron "pleas" for his daughter and have never felt they were 'real', I've not cried with him, in the Sandra Cantu case I have cried with her family each time they have been shown. :crying:

Ron just seems so fake to me, I hope I am wrong but I think he is very fake. MOO

Prayers for Haleigh! and Prayers for Sandra's family, may their angel rest in peace.


That is so special that you know when someone on TV "TRULY cries" you do too. I am such a sap I can cry even if no one else cries one way or the other. It just depends on situation for me.


'Ron "pleas" for his daughter'....Ron didn't always cry so I completely understand why you didn't cry "with him" Not sure how you crying with Sandra's family relates to this story. Did you not cry with Crystal all the times she appeared on tv w/out a tear in her eyes? She has never provoked so much as a dew drop from me. I feel so awful that she can't do more to make me emotional. It's just a vibe that I get from her sometimes. I hope it will fade with time.


For Haleigh :rose:

[5boxersmom]

I found this post by AH interesting. Post 107

Art Harris Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 2:09 am
Sources tell me investigators have ruled out Mexican drug locals; a Haleigh hand-off, etc…believe it or not fcops have excellent informants there and all over the local drug scene…and tell me, believe it or not, Ronald is NOT an informant, though he may want some to believe he is.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/haleigh-cummings-case-party-girls-busted-ronald-cummings-bolo/comment-page-1/#comment-32706


Why would anyone want people to think they are an informant? :confused:

[Pag Boi]

Thanks for the new thread tinker.

"I’ve been slandered into a sorry father." Ronald Cummings.

No Ron, you're doing a pretty good job of that all on your own.


moo

I don't think that Haleigh would agree that Ron is a sorry father

Crystal herself said on nat'l tv that Ron would never hurt Haleigh.

Haleigh looks very happy and well adjusted in her pictures. Haleigh seems to have rec'd good medical care since she her health issues weren't overwhelming her lifestyle. Crystal wasn't the one taking her to the doctor. Crystal wasn't the one supporting Haleigh and Jr. Crystal called them "the other brats" on her MS page.

Ron and Crystal were both undeserving of Haleigh. At least Ron was willing to try. It seems to me he cleaned himself up. Crystal didn't even know Haleigh's teachers. Crystal did know that Haleigh told her she loved Misty. :ohmy:

Ron didn't slander Crystal when asked why he had custody at the beg. of this tragedy. I remember when Marie said there were no custody issues? I go back to the beg of this and see who was more truthful. It helps me sort things out. That's just me tho.
JMOO

[Themis]

I found this post by AH interesting. Post 107

Art Harris Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 2:09 am
Sources tell me investigators have ruled out Mexican drug locals; a Haleigh hand-off, etc…believe it or not fcops have excellent informants there and all over the local drug scene…and tell me, believe it or not, Ronald is NOT an informant, though he may want some to believe he is.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/haleigh-cummings-case-party-girls-busted-ronald-cummings-bolo/comment-page-1/#comment-32706


Why would anyone want people to think they are an informant? :confused:
It makes no sense, 4BoxersMom. As for me, I'll just take that Harris comment with a grain of salt.
Plus, is Harris saying that cops have told him personally they have excellent informants or is he inferring his sources have told him that?:confused: [JMO * Themis]

[crymeariver2006]

I found this post by AH interesting. Post 107

Art Harris Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 2:09 am
Sources tell me investigators have ruled out Mexican drug locals; a Haleigh hand-off, etc…believe it or not fcops have excellent informants there and all over the local drug scene…and tell me, believe it or not, Ronald is NOT an informant, though he may want some to believe he is.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/haleigh-cummings-case-party-girls-busted-ronald-cummings-bolo/comment-page-1/#comment-32706


Why would anyone want people to think they are an informant? :confused:

Leverage for free drugs?

JMO

[AmndaRcknwth]

Leverage for free drugs?

JMO


Maybe leverage to rob people of those drugs?

I'm not saying he does this, but WBGreg said he does this.

[CANDYKISSES]

Oh Sly, this thread is full of fact twisting and enabling BS IMO. It seems there is always an excuse for Crystal, whether it's leaving her children behind and putting herself first or not supporting them.

Good grief, if Crystal was a man, can you imagine the carnage that would be left here? No, I am not buying any of what Kim is trying to package up for sale as DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM.

This is the kind of group where they are all guilty of ABUSING EACH OTHER as they party on with their favorite drugs IMOO. :crying:

All of those poor children deserve so much more.

[RoxyWest]

Do you think she would protect him if a child's life, her/his grandchild's life depended on it?
I know people who have protected their kids through many things even (alleged) murder, I just can't imagine protecting someone even a son, daughter in a case like this. :crying:

The "tot mom's" parents have proved me wrong :rolleyes:. I just know that if I or my husband ever laid a hand on our kids either set of grandparents would not support us, nor 'protect' us.

There's the rub. I don't think Haleigh's life depends on it, because I fear she is no longer alive. I believe TN's grief is very real, but she may know that nothing she can do will bring her back alive (IMO) so she will try to pick up the pieces by protecting the family she has left.