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Lovethechild
04-20-2009, 02:50 AM
I am in total shock that some feel they are out to get this person for one you have not seen the autopsy or her statements..all I have left to say is IF this WAS a MAN would we even be talking about her past her religion her mothering skills..????????NO WE WOULD NOT..I am in aw over some saying you do not think she raped Sandra..How do you know that??because so far I have seen no proof she was not...we seem to let religious people, teachers, doctors I can go on and one get by with this stuff for years because we are suppose to be able to trust them..well HELLO people they just arrested a male teacher in Tracy and I read a Doctor not sure were it was and also a pastor that was molesting children..so guess since they are men we don't care if maybe they had problems in their past....

I for one thinks she is a sick attention getting Monster who cries --- and abuse when it works for her or she needs some attention..until I see proof otherwise..I will stick to what I do know..she is a child killer...who was sane and seems like some want to start to make excuses for her so of course her family and friends are going to come out of the wood work saying she was this wonderful person until this happened or she divorced or got no child supprt could not find a jod shall I go on..well let me tell you I have lived everything she has and never touched a child not even my own..she is a sick evil person..and her family and Friend's are to blame also for not helping her if they knew all this was going on and they sat by and allowed her to spiral down as they put it..funny she told them 3 weeks ago she was doing very good very very good..so guess she lied about that also...all this is JMO

Sorry if this offends anyone but for one unless you have walked in those shoes you have no idea this gives no one a reason to kill a child just because she is a women...and many have lived through all of the same plus more and instead of killing they get help and go on to help others who have been there...I do know cause I volunteer..and was a victim but this is not about me or even her it is about a happy skipping 8yr old who was murdered and stuffed in a luggage bag and thrown in cow manure that is who I am here for not to talk about MLH lies and misfortunes..she could have ask for help actually she was getting help...paid for by who the taxpayers I am sure..all of this is JMO.you have yours and I have mine..and no one knows the evidence or what she told them that night..so I will wait and see what they have and go from there..but until then this is the only opinion I have...

fall off the monkey bars OK well just to help you out maybe she was riding her bike or a horse and that is the reason for the vaginal trauma..I don't think so but just thought I would give you a few other things to throw in there..or perhaps some want to say her family did this to her or someone else.:rolleyes:


ITA! SC was violated....that kind of trama wouldn't be the result of falling on her bike bar.

juliekan
04-20-2009, 03:19 AM
I for one would think she would have been hurting and told someone if this is what happened...so I do not think so..I fell on a bicycle bar when I was younger and it hurt and I told my parents but there was no vaginal trauma..I also feel climbing a tree my parents took me to be checked because of the pain but there was no trauma..I was kicked 20 times by a abusive man and it hurt but no vaginal trauma...I do not think this is some witch hunt to get poor MLH...all jmo

No internal injury from the monkey bars or bicycle bar. Been there done that as a child. (oooouuuch). Internal injury is called that because it it INTERNAL. Something must be introduced internally to cause that injury.

aproudmom
04-20-2009, 03:26 AM
Immediate recognition and prompt action at the occurrence of pelvic hemorrhage can significantly minimize life-threatening complications.

Trauma
Blunt traumafrom a fall or bicycle injury is common cause of vaginal bleedingduring childhood. Abrasions and lacerations of vulva, vagina, and,less commonly, cervix may occur.
Sexual abuse or rape is another commoncause of genital tract injury and bleeding.
Trauma also may injure urethra, bladder,rectum, and abdominal viscera. Exam of these areas should be performedin anyone with significant vaginal or vulvoperineal injury. Dependingon circumstances and age of child, vaginal exam under general anesthesiamay be necessary.

Foreign Body
Highestincidence of vaginal foreign body is at 2–4 yrs of age.
Some common items are pins, paper clips,beads, crayons, and toilet paper.
Vaginal bleeding may occur with orwithout discharge, which is usually foul smelling.
Sometimes foreign body can be palpableon rectal exam. Pelvic radiography may be diagnostic if foreignbody is radiopaque.
Vaginoscopy is usually necessary fordiagnosis and removal, and sometimes it is necessary to performthis exam under anesthesia.


Trauma
Injuriesto vulva and vagina from falls or straddle injuries may cause vaginalbleeding. Sexual assault is another cause of vaginal trauma andbleeding.
Erosions of cervix may occur in girls who have had sexual intercourse or who have borne a child. Intermittentvaginal spotting is frequent occurrence.
Diagnosis is confirmed by exam of thecervix


Mortality/Morbidity
In the course of a sexual assault, any injury may be inflicted on the victim, up to and including life-threatening multiorgan system trauma.

Seems if the truma was from a fall there would be bleeding and pain I am sure a 8yr old would tell her mother..

aproudmom
04-20-2009, 03:34 AM
Night to anyone who is on...I know we all have our own opinions but I also know we would not even be thinking of reason as to why she is being charged with the horrific crimes she committed if it was a male SO..or some creepy looking guy..I really think Sandra would have told her mother if she had fallen and was in pain or bleeding from trauma..I may be wrong..but it is just MO

juliekan
04-20-2009, 03:43 AM
Blunt trauma from a fall from a bicycle can cause injury to your larnyx or sternum or spleen.....or...or...or... there has got to be a major accident to cause injury to them or to cervix, vagina, urethra, kidneys, abdomen.

Nope, she did not get whatever these injuries LE has found from "child's play".

AmndaRcknwth
04-20-2009, 08:27 AM
Fell off a bicycle??????????????????????????????????????????? ?

Good Grief.

I bet the DA just thought of some off-the-wall chages...
"lemme see...hey joebob, this kid fell off a bike, d'ya think we can call it rape?"
"sure, go for it"

Maybe Sandra crawled into the suitcase herself and rolled it 2 miles north and accidentally rolled into a manure pond. Maybe she towed the suitcase with her bike, fell off the bike and then got into the suitcase.






If a man was arrested, would anyone ask if Sandra had a fall?
No?
Really?

BitterSweet
04-20-2009, 08:51 AM
It is also hard to imagine that sweet Sandra would be skipping happily down the road hours before her rape and murder, if she had a recent vaginal trauma.

BitterSweet

MoonFlwr
04-20-2009, 09:51 AM
I wonder if things will be quiet now until Friday when Melissa has to re-appear in court.

Do we need to start a new thread for the 20th? Been using this one for a few days...but things ARE quiet!? Whatchya think peeps? :shrug:

MoonFlwr
04-20-2009, 10:02 AM
New thread..

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13023514#post13023514

MoonFlwr
04-20-2009, 10:04 AM
yeah start a new thread and put the link in your last message, why not? Go for it, LOL

why is she due in court Friday? I have been off the tv over the weekend

Well, madamex, she entered no plea at her first appearance so the hearing was 'postponed' until Friday 24th April.

MoonFlwr
04-20-2009, 10:07 AM
All aboard the bus...... :)

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13023514#post13023514