Verdict: Guilty - murder 2

[Ellie]

These latest jurors must have felt tremendous pressure to convict.
LA DA and Fidler were out to get Spector because they hated the little odd person he is.
This verdict is a travesty and it WILL be overturned.

As much as I understand the need for differring opinions, what gets me is that if you put 100 people in a room, 99 of them would believe in Spector's guilt. (I am one of them.) It is also interesting to me that that one person out of 100 who does believe Spector is innocent is so passionate about it. The evidence pointing to Spector's guilt is *overwhelming*. It does cause me to wonder what those (very) few who believe in his innocence are missing.

[kaa]

And person. Phil Spector is still a person.

A person rightfully convicted of murder but a person nonetheless.

imo... of course. :)


Lana was a person too. But she didnt deserve to die by the hands of a maniac sicko. I dont feel any sympathy for this man putting all these people through such hardship and anguish that HE caused .
karen

[Dexter]

The world needed a scape goat, and the world picked poor Phil Spector.

We just have to forget, should we subscribe to such a theory, that PS has a longggggggggg history of threating women with guns, waited 45 minutes before 911 was called, and made that comment, 'I think I killed someone"

Au contraire, Tracian... Phil Spector never called 911. Fourteen phones.

Never once dialed 911.

[Dexter]

Lana was a person too. But she didnt deserve to die by the hands of a maniac sicko. I dont feel any sympathy for this man putting all these people through such hardship and anguish that HE caused .
karen

You are 100% correct.

[kaa]

Does anyone think that weinberg has a shot on appeals with this or is PS a gone peacan? He sure had alot of hot air to blow out about how unfair Judge Fidler was during the trail almost implying that Fidler was for the Pros.

karen

[Tracian]

Au contraire, Tracian... Phil Spector never called 911. Fourteen phones.

Never once dialed 911.


That's right, the 'criminal' driver is the one that called....after PS ran around cleaning up...then running out frantic...

[joolz]

Hi Ellie. So glad you asked "what are they missing". Just about everything. I found out the same people who have supported Phil via message boards have supported all sorts of other murderers as well. Even if they witnessed their guilt, they still say they are innocent. I believe they don't believe in the law, don't respect it, they have no respect for authority, very unhappy and would rather stay ignorant to cold hard facts just to be fed on message boards.


How does someone live in such a bubble? Do they believe that no one ever really gets murdered? That it's always the wrong person convicted? Or just that there should not be punishment for anything?

I don't get it. :confused:

[Dexter]

Does anyone think that weinberg has a shot on appeals with this or is PS a gone peacan? He sure had alot of hot air to blow out about how unfair Judge Fidler was during the trail almost implying that Fidler was for the Pros.

karen

As you so eloquently put it... Phil Spector is "a gone pecan."

[Tracian]

Does anyone think that weinberg has a shot on appeals with this or is PS a gone peacan? He sure had alot of hot air to blow out about how unfair Judge Fidler was during the trail almost implying that Fidler was for the Pros.

karen


TH's on IS are about 50/50 on the chance for appeal...but they do all agree it will be a while before one would even be heard.

[Dexter]

That's right, the 'criminal' driver is the one that called....after PS ran around cleaning up...then running out frantic...

Before Phil Spector ran around attempting to clean and alter the murder scene.

Phil Spector had approximately 42 minutes alone in his house with his murder victim's body.

Kudos to Adriano DeSouza for doing the right thing. Lana Clarkson deserves justice and I thank Adriano for telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[oodi]

Hi Ellie. So glad you asked "what are they missing". Just about everything. I found out the same people who have supported Phil via message boards have supported all sorts of other murderers as well. Even if they witnessed their guilt, they still say they are innocent. I believe they don't believe in the law, don't respect it, they have no respect for authority, very unhappy and would rather stay ignorant to cold hard facts just to be fed on message boards.


And here I thought they were suffering from a medical condition. :unsure: :wink:

[joolz]

You are absolutely right. And Zanny the nanny killed Caylee Anthony. And OJ is an all-round nice guy. And there is a Santa Clause. And pigs fly.

That's right Lizzie! And don't forget, we will all be watching to see whose conviction gets overturned first: Spector, Scott Peterson or Neil Entwhistle. Uh huh.:wink:

[vonna]

Hi everyone. I made it back from the land of no internet service. I missed the buzzes and getting the verdict here with you all, but Thanks to my buddy, Tartangirl, I was informed in good time!
So late though I may be, HOORAY! and finally...Justice for Lana and her family!

Though the damage from the tornado here is enormous, our little community is pulling together and getting things done!

Nice to see you back, NM.

[vonna]

Scott Peterson was just misunderstood.

:lol:

No. His problem was he was understood too well by twelve jurors.

[joolz]

Hi everyone. I made it back from the land of no internet service. I missed the buzzes and getting the verdict here with you all, but Thanks to my buddy, Tartangirl, I was informed in good time!
So late though I may be, HOORAY! and finally...Justice for Lana and her family!

Though the damage from the tornado here is enormous, our little community is pulling together and getting things done!

Good to see you NM! I'm glad you are okay!:wub:

[Anakerie]

Does anyone think that weinberg has a shot on appeals with this or is PS a gone peacan? He sure had alot of hot air to blow out about how unfair Judge Fidler was during the trail almost implying that Fidler was for the Pros.

karen
I don't think Phil will win an appeal at all... Even Weinberg at the presser afterwards acknowledged that Fidler showed no bias. The only thing he was whining about were the 5 prior bad acts being allowed to come in. That was argued heavily during both trials and the prosecutors won the arguments and brought them in. If I remember right from the first trial (the hearings before the trial, actually) the prosecutors had a list of more than 5 prior bad acts but were limited to the 5 by Judge Fidler. Weinberg can whine all he wants, but there was and is precedent for bringing in the defendent's prior bad behavior.

Of course, all that is just my own humble opinion... lol

[penguin01]

These latest jurors must have felt tremendous pressure to convict.
LA DA and Fidler were out to get Spector because they hated the little odd person he is.
This verdict is a travesty and it WILL be overturned. LOL don't forget that the last jury very much wanted to convict also - and we had the really really strange (obviously and publicly) "Ben-10" and his very mindless grouple to thank for the case not getting closed back then. Now THAT was a travesty of justice, for sure.
This case will not be overturned! Doubtful you could find another Ben10for him if he did win a new trial.

[KathR]

CNN is going to show the verdict soon.

A day late and a dollar short, isn't that?

[hiitsme]

I don't think Phil will win an appeal at all... Even Weinberg at the presser afterwards acknowledged that Fidler showed no bias. The only thing he was whining about were the 5 prior bad acts being allowed to come in. That was argued heavily during both trials and the prosecutors won the arguments and brought them in. If I remember right from the first trial (the hearings before the trial, actually) the prosecutors had a list of more than 5 prior bad acts but were limited to the 5 by Judge Fidler. Weinberg can whine all he wants, but there was and is precedent for bringing in the defendent's prior bad behavior.

Of course, all that is just my own humble opinion... lol

I totally agree with your humble opinion.

[AZCHARGED]

How does someone live in such a bubble? Do they believe that no one ever really gets murdered? That it's always the wrong person convicted? Or just that there should not be punishment for anything?

I don't get it. :confused:

Easily explained. They live in a different world than the REST of us. It's called "La La Land."

[AZCHARGED]

CNN is going to show the verdict soon.

A day late and a dollar short, isn't that?

Rick Sanchez, CNN Live, not Headline News. Just in case you get both stations in your area.

[KathR]

Scott Peterson was just misunderstood.

:lol:

He's known as Scotty now.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20271730,00.html
Despite being locked in a cell for 19 hours a day, Robinson believes Peterson has adjusted well to his confinement. "You're still able to forge relationships with people who live around you and you try to make the most of your condition," says Robinson. "I think that's what Scotty is doing."

Maybe he and Philly will become friends.

[cherylt]

I think she knew exactly what she was getting into when she married PS. IMO that was a business arrangement. PS needed an attractive woman by his side to impress the jury & try to show them he was not a woman abuser. She wanted money, luxury living & a name for herself.


ITA! The funny thing is the last jury didn't even know who she was and one of the jurors even thought she may be his DAUGHTER! lol

[vonna]

Thank you, vonna. Are you as satisfied as I with the verdict? Of course, I know you are! We have waited a long time for this, haven't we?
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Too long - but worth the wait for M2. I don't think BenTen would have consented to IVMS had it been offered last time - so he would have hung them anyway and forced the expense of this second trial.

[kennedy06]

Rick Sanchez, CNN Live, not Headline News. Just in case you get both stations in your area.

I have it on maybe I missed it. I was amazed besides HLN I didn't see anything mentioned on the news. HLN girl sort of snickered at the mug shot. That was about it.

[penguin01]

Was there ever any doubt that he wasn't pro prosecution? He wasn't a bit bashful about it either, in my opinion.
In all your long hours of tracking this trial?? SO you joined this board on 4/13 to start commenting now? To see who you can get a rise out of?
Its always fun to see who comes freshly out of the woodwork after the verdicts, isn't it?:biggrinjester:

[AZCHARGED]

I have it on maybe I missed it. I was amazed besides HLN I didn't see anything mentioned on the news. HLN girl sort of snickered at the mug shot. That was about it.

Keep watching CNN Live. Rick Sanchez shows it as still coming up. Just saw another promo.

[Anakerie]

Was there ever any doubt that he wasn't pro prosecution? He wasn't a bit bashful about it either, in my opinion.
Pardon my curiosity, but did you watch or even listen to the presser afterwards? Did you listen to what Weinberg said? He said that the judge showed NO bias.... Sheesh... If you're going to bash the outcome, perhaps you should listen to the pressers before you spout off.

[barskin&co.]

These latest jurors must have felt tremendous pressure to convict.
LA DA and Fidler were out to get Spector because they hated the little odd person he is.
This verdict is a travesty and it WILL be overturned.

Hey, jug, maybe you're right. This verdict may be overturned, but, if that happens you and I and the rest of this board, I assure you, will not know about it. We will all be far too distracted as we stare up into the sky and watch the pigs fly around.

[Details]

hehehehehe.

That post cracked me up. Much appreciated, juggernaut.

imo... of course. :)I always love those posts - and the funniest thing is that they never come remotely true! But they still show up after every major verdict.

[Anakerie]

Easily explained. They live in a different world than the REST of us. It's called "La La Land."
And that particular "La La Land" doesn't even have to be in L.A.! LOL

[barskin&co.]

I always love those posts - and the funniest thing is that they never come remotely true! But they still show up after every major verdict.

But you gotta love the argument that the Judge and DA were "out to get" PS because of the "little odd person he is." :lol:

[penguin01]

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Too long - but worth the wait for M2. I don't think BenTen would have consented to IVMS had it been offered last time - so he would have hung them anyway and forced the expense of this second trial. I remember that he said he wanted to offer his services to the Prosecution so they could do a better job the next time. Guess he had a new career sideline in mind. Of course he had no idea at that that everyone would know what his antics were in that jury room.
Wonder how his mother (or was it mother-in-law?) has been doing since Ben blabbed to the world about her "perfectly normal" habit of rumaging thru other people's drawers in their homes. Of course Lana would do that - doesn't everyone? What a nut he was!

[kennedy06]

Keep watching CNN Live. Rick Sanchez shows it as still coming up. Just saw another promo.

Thank You!


Just thinking, we still have the verdict, the civil suit and goodness knows what else may pop up. I guess we should look for those maybe on the old crimes board in the future. So you know we wil all meet again concerning PS I have a feeling, some of us have discussed we are so use to posting about this we are sort of unwinding...so... you know.....:)

[vonna]

But you gotta love the argument that the Judge and DA were "out to get" PS because of the "little odd person he is." :lol:

And of course the body of poor, dear Lana had nothing to do with it!

[penguin01]

But you gotta love the argument that the Judge and DA were "out to get" PS because of the "little odd person he is." :lol: Right - California is not known for odd little people and certainly wouldn't have any tolerance for them.

[barskin&co.]

Gee who does this self titled investigator sound like bashing the judge? What a tool who needs to put down the food. Couldn't pass an IQ test to save his life I bet.

http://www.myspace.com/crimefile

:scared:

That guy! He has a blog. He's a right wing wack-a-doodle, who is Mr, Law and Order except in the case of men who murder women, who are always the innocent victims of unjust prosecution. He was, IMO, simply bought by the Spector defense, but he thinks he's innocent, and so is Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson....all the Petersons...O J...

His blog:

http://www.crimefilenews.com/

[Details]

Does anyone think that weinberg has a shot on appeals with this or is PS a gone peacan? He sure had alot of hot air to blow out about how unfair Judge Fidler was during the trail almost implying that Fidler was for the Pros.

karenNope. You hear the same EXACT thing after every trial from the defense attorney - and after some 15 years of trial watching, it has NEVER ONCE come true. No remotely successful appeals - nothing remotely close. They file, judge reviews, finds nothing, denied - that's all there is.

[penguin01]

I posted that article on the old cases thread.

Too bad Philly didn't get the death penalty.
NO, no no - I keep saying - general population would be a much more miserable life for these egoists: I wish Scottie was in Gen Pop. Its much noisier than the quiet comfort he has now - in his private cell with his private TV and his books.... and no roomate.

[kaa]

I don't think Phil will win an appeal at all... Even Weinberg at the presser afterwards acknowledged that Fidler showed no bias. The only thing he was whining about were the 5 prior bad acts being allowed to come in. That was argued heavily during both trials and the prosecutors won the arguments and brought them in. If I remember right from the first trial (the hearings before the trial, actually) the prosecutors had a list of more than 5 prior bad acts but were limited to the 5 by Judge Fidler. Weinberg can whine all he wants, but there was and is precedent for bringing in the defendent's prior bad behavior.

Of course, all that is just my own humble opinion... lol

Cool but like you said it will take years before his appeal will come up, but I think PS wont make it in real prision.

karen

[AZCHARGED]

Thank You!


Just thinking, we still have the verdict, the civil suit and goodness knows what else may pop up. I guess we should look for those maybe on the old crimes board in the future. So you know we wil all meet again concerning PS I have a feeling, some of us have discussed we are so use to posting about this we are sort of unwinding...so... you know.....:)

Well, CNN is on to The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, so they must have dropped the PS verdict coverage. Oh well! There ARE more important things!!

You are correct ... Unwinding is good. I have a good feeling knowing that justice has been done.

[Ellie]

Hi Ellie. So glad you asked "what are they missing". Just about everything. I found out the same people who have supported Phil via message boards have supported all sorts of other murderers as well. Even if they witnessed their guilt, they still say they are innocent. I believe they don't believe in the law, don't respect it, they have no respect for authority, very unhappy and would rather stay ignorant to cold hard facts just to be fed on message boards.


Ignorant. That's a good word to use, JR. Good word indeed. :wink:

[Ellie]

He's here too. Like I said "he's a tool". I can't post what I really think because I will get banned.

He's Mr. Wrong all the time wack-a-doodle in case some haven't bothered to notice.

"Today was a sad day for the Bill of Rights and fair trials. I know the rulings by Judge Fidler will never survive the appeal process. The question I have is will Phil Spector."

:lol:

OH MAN. I can't get away from this guy!! I think he lives in his mother's basement or something. He is totally out there (had to delete what I typed originally....). He strikes me as the kind of guy who walks around in tighty-whities and a pair of knee-high gym socks with a gun stuck in one of them.

Is this going to get me in trouble?

[barskin&co.]

he is also zelda mccorville

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JUDstMlbM

:lol:

Words fail me....not on ounce...not a milligram, I should say, of wit.

[barskin&co.]

i'm serious, that is paul huebl......
http://www.youtube.com/user/zeldamccorville

Yes, we see. No end to his talents, is there? :lol:

[tartangirl]

Hey all,

Having some computer problems and I am just now getting back to the places I like to read and am way behind on reading here. I did run into a bit of information that states that Spector is the first celebrity found guilty of murder in L.A. in more than 40 years. :ohmy:

Is that a true fact? If so...wowee....baby.....


ALAN JACKSON AND TRUC DO ARE PROSECUTORS EXTRAORDINAIRE


But, I guess we already were aware of that...:wub:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/04/phil-spector-faces-18-year-sentence-for-second-deg.html


~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[barskin&co.]

I believe you. I'm laughing so hard.

Here's the best part: he probably thinks that YouTube bit is intentionally funny.

[DebinNv]

It's soooo great to log on to the board this afternoon, and see the title of the thread --Phil Spector GUILTY-- such a long time of waiting to finally see this.

22 jurors believed PS to be guilty out of 24 jurors total -- 2 trials of course, but it says a lot. I'm so glad that this time JUSTICE prevailed!

I'm glad I came out of lurking mode, and actually did some posting this time. I sure enjoyed posting with everyone!

Thanks.

[barskin&co.]

It's soooo great to log on to the board this afternoon, and see the title of the thread --Phil Spector GUILTY-- such a long time of waiting to finally see this.

22 jurors believed PS to be guilty out of 24 jurors total -- 2 trials of course, but it says a lot. I'm so glad that this time JUSTICE prevailed!

I'm glad I came out of lurking mode, and actually did some posting this time. I sure enjoyed posting with everyone!

Thanks.

Welcome, Deb. :seeya: Great time to de-lurk!

[barskin&co.]

i just do not see phil as a celebrity...... no one would ever recognize him in public.....

Didn't Lana think he was a woman at the House of Blues?

[Ellie]

Didn't Lana think he was a woman at the House of Blues?

Yep, she sure did!

[Details]

Hey all,

Having some computer problems and I am just now getting back to the places I like to read and am way behind on reading here. I did run into a bit of information that states that Spector is the first celebrity found guilty of murder in L.A. in more than 40 years. :ohmy:

Is that a true fact? If so...wowee....baby.....


ALAN JACKSON AND TRUC DO ARE PROSECUTORS EXTRAORDINAIRE


But, I guess we already were aware of that...:wub:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/04/phil-spector-faces-18-year-sentence-for-second-deg.html


~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~
There aren't that many celebrities who commit murder - and fewer still where it happens to be LA - so even if true - it's insufficient data for a statistic.

There are two others charged - OJ - and after the Rodney King beating, riots, police brutality, and race issues of the day - that verdict can only be called a fluke - would it have happened any other time? We cannot know. It was about race, and making up for racist verdicts that went the other way - really not much of anything else. And then there's Blake - which, I'm sorry - but I looked at the evidence, the case - and to me, there's reasonable doubt. I think the jury was right. It was on the border - but really, too many serious genuine questions to say he did it. No doubt he had motive, and a gun - but the gun was the wrong one, and motive doesn't mean you did it. The forensics just didn't match, didn't fit. I would have worried that he was innocent, were he convicted - and I'm not normally a NG type.

Spector - as most here know - jury 1 was simply a case of a rogue juror. That's all that it is. The prosecution didn't fail, the defense didn't succeed - everything I've heard says it wouldn't have mattered what case was put on.

So, hey, enough of the California bashing - even the backhanded compliments, OK? We do pretty darn well - and any state you care to name has it's travesties of justice to point out. Yeesh, already had to endure the engineer bashing from Juror 10 - the next big case had an engineer on it, and everyone was talking about how stubbornly irrational us engineers are (and guess what - the engineer on that jury was a nice strong G vote - trying to make a trend from one individual and a few biases - whaddya know - doesn't work!)

[KathR]

http://www.myspace.com/192314775

i see that phil's mood today is creative on his myspace page...

maybe making designs with his peas and corn in the lunchroom

Interesting. His Beatles links no longer work.

[Ellie]

{jingle bells...jingle bells..}

Good afternoon, All :biggrinjester:

Just lurking and reading and skipping and scrolling today.

Our Ingore Feature has become my best friend. Keeps my Scottish temper in check.

The California Court of Appeals in usually notoriously slow. Witness some Death Row prisoners who have been on the "Row" for 18 years. Oh, well - some cases can be shoved through, I guess.

Take Care Everyone - it has been a pleasure to post with y'all!

Jester :biggrinjester:

You're not going anywhere, are you?!! :sad: You tell me where you're headed and I'll come too. We can follow that case as well.

[Cornblossom]

Interesting. His Beatles links no longer work.

Evidentally neither does their spell check LMAO They misspelled "innocent"......

"FREE PHIL SPECTOR! YOU CAN'T JAIL AN ANNOCENT MAN!" (their words-NOT mine LMAO

[KathR]

{jingle bells...jingle bells..}

Good afternoon, All :biggrinjester:

Just lurking and reading and skipping and scrolling today.

Our Ingore Feature has become my best friend. Keeps my Scottish temper in check.

The California Court of Appeals in usually notoriously slow. Witness some Death Row prisoners who have been on the "Row" for 18 years. Oh, well - some cases can be shoved through, I guess.

Take Care Everyone - it has been a pleasure to post with y'all!

Jester :biggrinjester:

LOL. Look what I found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS75NtlH3gI

[True2Blues]

There aren't that many celebrities who commit murder - and fewer still where it happens to be LA - so even if true - it's insufficient data for a statistic.

There are two others charged - OJ - and after the Rodney King beating, riots, police brutality, and race issues of the day - that verdict can only be called a fluke - would it have happened any other time? We cannot know. It was about race, and making up for racist verdicts that went the other way - really not much of anything else. And then there's Blake - which, I'm sorry - but I looked at the evidence, the case - and to me, there's reasonable doubt. I think the jury was right. It was on the border - but really, too many serious genuine questions to say he did it. No doubt he had motive, and a gun - but the gun was the wrong one, and motive doesn't mean you did it. The forensics just didn't match, didn't fit. I would have worried that he was innocent, were he convicted - and I'm not normally a NG type.

Spector - as most here know - jury 1 was simply a case of a rogue juror. That's all that it is. The prosecution didn't fail, the defense didn't succeed - everything I've heard says it wouldn't have mattered what case was put on.

So, hey, enough of the California bashing - even the backhanded compliments, OK? We do pretty darn well - and any state you care to name has it's travesties of justice to point out. Yeesh, already had to endure the engineer bashing from Juror 10 - the next big case had an engineer on it, and everyone was talking about how stubbornly irrational us engineers are (and guess what - the engineer on that jury was a nice strong G vote - trying to make a trend from one individual and a few biases - whaddya know - doesn't work!)


I don't think it's necessary to be so defensive. California is where most celebrities live, so they get the majority of celebrity cases. The problem seems to be the unwillingness of either Judges or juries to want to put a "celebrity" in jail/prison just because their name is known. People seem to see film/music/sports persons as above everyone else. It's just seen more in California because they have more of them.

California is the state where this trial happened, so naturally their records would be the ones checked for a statistic. I don't know if they are the only state to have tried more than one 'Celebrity' for murder, or any other crime, but they probably have a higher instance of known persons in their courts.

As for Juror 10 from the first trial, I never thought his being an Engineer had anything to do with his problem. I think it had to do with Him. If he'd been a bicycle shop owner, he would have acted the same way.

[Ellie]

How come no one proved Phil to be annocent?

ANNOCENT...LMAO

Drunk'n typing is never good for anyone.

:laugh:

LOL! Drunken? It was probably 'Chelle or one of her girlfriends! Or her 'male friend' who was doing it as a joke!

[True2Blues]

Evidentally neither does their spell check LMAO They misspelled "innocent"......

"FREE PHIL SPECTOR! YOU CAN'T JAIL AN ANNOCENT MAN!" (their words-NOT mine LMAO


That's a hoot! :lol:

[Details]

Evidentally neither does their spell check LMAO They misspelled "innocent"......

"FREE PHIL SPECTOR! YOU CAN'T JAIL AN ANNOCENT MAN!" (their words-NOT mine LMAOHmmm - an accidental truth? Since the prefix 'a' usually indicates something that means the opposite? Like moral, and amoral? So if someone is annocent - that means they are the opposite of innocent?

[True2Blues]

I saw that! LOL! And no you don't jail innocent (or annocent) men...but you DO put CONVICTED murderers in jail!

:thumbsup:

[cherylt]

[QUOTE=Jayne;13005191]***respectfully snipped
I wonder...and it's just wonder...if AJ didn't go home last night and have a bit of an "emotional breakdown" as well...NOT that he didn't do the right thing..but the release of all the pressure and knowing he assisted in "justice" albeit another human being (OK..convicted murderer) placed where he belongs...out of society.



I think he probably went home & did his OWN little "happy dance"... I'm sure he's relieved it's over. Sure wish I could share in his joy with him (and comfort him if he needs it). :) bad, cheryl, sorry DH

[cook4andy]

i applaud those who can watch murder trials of child killers.... john cooey was my last one.


That was the most sickening, heartbreaking case and too close to home. :sad::crying:

[cherylt]

[QUOTE=My 2 Cents;13005352]This "spector fan#1" seems like a normal individual.

But it was odd, during the CLOSING ARGUMENTS by the defense, there was the weirdest array of people coming to sit on Spector's side. 2 people especially looked like they were hard-core "homeless" people . . . I am NOT being cruel - there is no other way to describe them. They seemed so out of it too. VERY, VERY, VERY ODD. I swear - it crossed my mind that Rachelle just canvassed the park across the street, to make sure there weren't any empty seats during CLOSING.


Addressing my bold - I think that is probably what she did. Gave some people $20 or something each just to fill seats... Those same people obviously weren't there for the verdict or any other part of the trial...
Pretty sad u have to pay someone to be your "friend" (not) to sit and pretend support. Where are all his music buddies? Oh, that's right, he wronged just about everyone of them, so they are no-shows...

Wow-still sinking in. I should not be happy, but resevered and feel justice was done. But darn it, I can't help it. I am glad it's over and JVM even said last night she was "happy."

Well, CA is probably the next big trial, but since the announcement of the DP, the trial probably won't even happen in October...

BK is in Greeley, CO. Anyone know what the LIVE case is that is coming on next?

[cherylt]

LOLOL! Join the club cheryl! Only you have to get in line :biggrinjester:

Indeed, I got my AJ fix yesterday watching his news conference.


lol - I will NOT get in line. I'm FIRST! :)

Yes, got a little fix but not NEARLY enough. They should come up w/ an "AJ-TV" so we can watch all the trials he prosecutes... Hmmm, wish I had $$ to produce that show....

[cherylt]

good morning all,

this morining i couldnt help but think about how much ps must have loved his 4 am wake up call for breakfast. wonder what breakfast was. i am sure his new bed was not as comfortable as his old one.


Lol - that reminds me of the Darren Mack case! constantly compaining about the bed, A/C, etc... Guess what? TOO BAD!

Also wonder if he's made any new friends yet?.. But he is probably isolated off from the rest of the prisoners for now, even though that is not fair. Anyone else convicted of the same crime would not get special treatment. jmo

[Sedonia Sunset]

WOW - - if he did have a "face lift" it was not done very well. Not to sound mean or cruel, but in court, his face has DEEP set creases and many times his skin appears to "hang off" his facial structure. But he does look very different in the "mug shot" - it doesn't show the deep creases. And when he arrived yesterday - his skin, crease, deep lines, did look much better - - maybe he gets dehydrated easily and that affects the sagging skin and facial features, day-to-day - - because he just doesn't look very good in the courtroom usually. This "mug shot" is a good picture of him IMO.

I agree about the mugshot. I even posted a comment stating that on TMZ yesterday not long after it appeared, but they chose not to post it. I can only assume that it was because they didn't WANT anyone to say he looked BETTER and YOUNGER than usual, even though I was still plenty snarky about it. Apparently it's okay to swear like a sailor and wish unspeakable horrors on him in the comments, but not to say he looks better than he usually does.

[barskin&co.]

i applaud those who can watch murder trials of child killers.... john cooey was my last one.

Do you remember the trial of David Westerfield for the kidnap and murder of Danielle Van Dam? We had a huge group on the board for that one. A lot of posters thought that sick (expletive deleted) was actually innocent. There were BIG debates over that trial.

[barskin&co.]

lol - I will NOT get in line. I'm FIRST! :)

Yes, got a little fix but not NEARLY enough. They should come up w/ an "AJ-TV" so we can watch all the trials he prosecutes... Hmmm, wish I had $$ to produce that show....

Hey cher, there is AJ-TV! It's a Dateline series!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29994158/

[cherylt]

And, she says, the 3rd time is a charm. She says that his PBAs should never have been allowed - because the people he did that to in the past lived thru the experience and Lana did not: so the PBAs don't meet the "exactly the same" requirement in the law. Luckily Jami is wrong alot, so I'm not upset by her comments this time.


That is the kind of logic that drives me CRAZY! Just because they LIVED, makes it different? Would she prefer he had killed them all - so that she can believe guilt? That would have made him a serial killer!

FGS! I should not get so worked up re: her comments, but I really don't understand how she thinks people are still innocent even when a GUILTY VERDICT has been rendered!

good to see ya Penguin!

[cherylt]

Hey cher, there is AJ-TV! It's a Dateline series!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29994158/


COOL! Thanks - you're awesome!!

[cherylt]

it took a long time to stop thinking about it constantly... i wanted to go and take care of cooey myself.


No kidding - I could barely watch; he is that disgusting. And when Mark L. speaks, I swear I could cry forever. That POOR man deserves so much more out of life. I hope he finds (or did find) a partner who can help out w/ some healing.

BTW - anyone know who the heck was the criminal(s) that testified in the PS trial? Was that just some off handed remark? We know the criminals/friends of OJ, but PS pros witnesess? UGH!

[oodi]

That is the kind of logic that drives me CRAZY! Just because they LIVED, makes it different? Would she prefer he had killed them all - so that she can believe guilt? That would have made him a serial killer!

FGS! I should not get so worked up re: her comments, but I really don't understand how she thinks people are still innocent even when a GUILTY VERDICT has been rendered!

good to see ya Penguin!

I can't remember exactly how she worded it, but it was something to the effect that the PBAs didn't fit the pattern closely enough. I really have to wonder how she could think they differed so much. As you said... they only difference is that the others lived to tell about it.

[Details]

Lol - that reminds me of the Darren Mack case! constantly compaining about the bed, A/C, etc... Guess what? TOO BAD!

Also wonder if he's made any new friends yet?.. But he is probably isolated off from the rest of the prisoners for now, even though that is not fair. Anyone else convicted of the same crime would not get special treatment. jmoIMO - the prison officials do treat everyone the same. They make the same efforts to ensure that everyone in prison is safe, not harmed by other prisoners, able to serve their time. But some prisoners - either due to their crime, their status, their job, are less safe, so they take additional precautions. Whether it's a former cop, a pedophile, a gang boss, a person who testified against an influential gangster, or a celebrity - there are many reasons they'll keep someone a bit isolated.

[hiitsme]

I can't remember exactly how she worded it, but it was something to the effect that the PBAs didn't fit the pattern closely enough. I really have to wonder how she could think they differed so much. As you said... they only difference is that the others lived to tell about it.

Wonder what she would say if Lana was her sister!!! I can find a fair and best defense elsewhere. See ya Jami Floyd and quite frankly, good riddens!

[penguin01]

That is the kind of logic that drives me CRAZY! Just because they LIVED, makes it different? Would she prefer he had killed them all - so that she can believe guilt? That would have made him a serial killer!

FGS! I should not get so worked up re: her comments, but I really don't understand how she thinks people are still innocent even when a GUILTY VERDICT has been rendered!

good to see ya Penguin! Good to see you too cherylt. Isn't it great to come together over good news at last? While I do believe that juries sometimes get it wrong we know that 22 out of 24 jurors got it right about PS.
Jami's comments didn't bother me this time. Too weak. The whole PBA thing was revisited before the last trial..... and the fact that all the others lived thru the experience doesn't mean that it wasn't an accident waiting to happen. I doubt he meant to kill her - he meant to vent his anger as usual and get her to do his bidding..... stay with him; don't leave him; pitiful as that is! Well he did kill her and tried to cover it up. I hope that this last several years has been almost as painful for PS as it has been for Lana's family and friends.

[Details]

that is what she said..... the 5 pbas lived so they did not fit the patternIt's the "I didn't kill anyone before, so I must not have killed anyone this time either" defense. By that standard, no one is a murderer, since they must be innocent of the first murder. I beat my wife every week the last 10 years, and she never died before, so no way could I have beat her just a bit too hard this time and killed her, right? All the past beatings aren't part of past acts, because they never died before!

[eagleeer]

:thumbsup: Freudian Slip?

Is that like "accidental suicide?"

No Jester, "accidental suicide" is an oxymoron. Leave it to Bruce Cutler to say something like that. :rolleyes:

[vonna]

Evidentally neither does their spell check LMAO They misspelled "innocent"......

"FREE PHIL SPECTOR! YOU CAN'T JAIL AN ANNOCENT MAN!" (their words-NOT mine LMAO

But that's true! They didn't jail an innocent man.

[penguin01]

THANK YOU, Kath! I have been going back to watch the various links here and found this!

My mostest favorite comedy of all times. If anyone wonders what my sig line means...it is here in Danny Kaye's Court Jester.

Thanks again, Kath, much appreciated :biggrinjester: Oh I was also glad to see that link. I thank Kath also. I knew it was a mnemonic of some kind, but just couldn't remember where I heard it. Wonderful Danny Kaye.

[cherylt]

Good to see you too cherylt. Isn't it great to come together over good news at last? While I do believe that juries sometimes get it wrong we know that 22 out of 24 jurors got it right about PS.
Jami's comments didn't bother me this time. Too weak. The whole PBA thing was revisited before the last trial..... and the fact that all the others lived thru the experience doesn't mean that it wasn't an accident waiting to happen. I doubt he meant to kill her - he meant to vent his anger as usual and get her to do his bidding..... stay with him; don't leave him; pitiful as that is! Well he did kill her and tried to cover it up. I hope that this last several years has been almost as painful for PS as it has been for Lana's family and friends.


Amen to that! And good point re: 22 out of 24 and might even have been 23 out of 24, w/out J #10.

It sounds like we are getting a live trial at some point this week out of CO. Wonder what it is?

[tartangirl]

There aren't that many celebrities who commit murder - and fewer still where it happens to be LA - so even if true - it's insufficient data for a statistic.

There are two others charged - OJ - and after the Rodney King beating, riots, police brutality, and race issues of the day - that verdict can only be called a fluke - would it have happened any other time? We cannot know. It was about race, and making up for racist verdicts that went the other way - really not much of anything else. And then there's Blake - which, I'm sorry - but I looked at the evidence, the case - and to me, there's reasonable doubt. I think the jury was right. It was on the border - but really, too many serious genuine questions to say he did it. No doubt he had motive, and a gun - but the gun was the wrong one, and motive doesn't mean you did it. The forensics just didn't match, didn't fit. I would have worried that he was innocent, were he convicted - and I'm not normally a NG type.

Spector - as most here know - jury 1 was simply a case of a rogue juror. That's all that it is. The prosecution didn't fail, the defense didn't succeed - everything I've heard says it wouldn't have mattered what case was put on.

So, hey, enough of the California bashing - even the backhanded compliments, OK? We do pretty darn well - and any state you care to name has it's travesties of justice to point out. Yeesh, already had to endure the engineer bashing from Juror 10 - the next big case had an engineer on it, and everyone was talking about how stubbornly irrational us engineers are (and guess what - the engineer on that jury was a nice strong G vote - trying to make a trend from one individual and a few biases - whaddya know - doesn't work!)


Please understand that I am not bashing anyone in particular. The line was something I had not seen before. LOL. I am either having an after verdict kind of warm fuzzy or a some kind of dizzy spell....LOL Will go rest soon, but had to let you know that...

I truly LOVE CALIFORNIA. My visits there have been warm and wonderful. I LOVE ENGINEERS TOO....close to a few and they are also warm and wonderful. My state and my life experiences are far from perfect. FAR FROM PERFECT...LOL :rolleyes:

I just love those prosecutors more than anything else right about now and that I will never qualify to anyone....:wub:

In this less than perfect world we all manage to make our way and for that I am eternally grateful..

pm me if I have still managed to bash the things that are important to you...I will gladly talk..:smile:

~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[KathR]

Wonder what she would say if Lana was her sister!!! I can find a fair and best defense elsewhere. See ya Jami Floyd and quite frankly, good riddens!

Is Jami leaving? I want to go to the farewell party. I'll never forget the on-line chat she hosted last year during the first PS trial.

And here I am, saying goodbye again. It is hard to break some habits:w00t:

[Details]

Please understand that I am not bashing anyone in particular. The line was something I had not seen before. LOL. I am either having an after verdict kind of warm fuzzy or a some kind of dizzy spell....LOL Will go rest soon, but had to let you know that...

I truly LOVE CALIFORNIA. My visits there have been warm and wonderful. I LOVE ENGINEERS TOO....close to a few and they are also warm and wonderful. My state and my life experiences are far from perfect. FAR FROM PERFECT...LOL :rolleyes:

I just love those prosecutors more than anything else right about now and that I will never qualify to anyone....:wub:

In this less than perfect world we all manage to make our way and for that I am eternally grateful..

pm me if I have still managed to bash the things that are important to you...I will gladly talk..:smile:

~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~
Thanks. After the last few weeks of California bashing from some, and the engineer bashing in previous trials - I'm a bit done with it, and just wanted to make sure it didn't start up again over the line about celebrities.

The prosecutors did a great job - any time they have to go against a defendant with deep pockets who can buy experts with a financial incentive to back up their story, it's an extra challenge.

[penguin01]

Amen to that! And good point re: 22 out of 24 and might even have been 23 out of 24, w/out J #10.

It sounds like we are getting a live trial at some point this week out of CO. Wonder what it is? I'm sure they know - can't imagine why they don't give us a heads up so we can start checking out background. But I'm happy just to let this one relax in my mind for awhile.
Its been a really long case. I really just so relieved.

[dref99]

No expert am I, but I think he made a mistake and not purjury. I think the court has probably agreed on that.

Does it really matter now that Phil is finally where he belongs?

Hi JR - sorry to reply so late, but I think it does matter

It is not the court that makes the decision here - it is the DA - whether or not Pex will be charged. I believe it was Weinberg that said it was a mistake, Pex did not address the issue - he simply said he did not need a lawyer & after that the prosecution quickly stopped their questions as they saw no point to continuing to question someone who in their opinion, had committed perjury.

Weinberg has made a big fuss about why defendants need their own "experts". The DA should make a fuss when those experts are not telling the truth. Same as the defense should make a fuss if any prosection experts can be shown to be lying.

jmo

[cook4andy]

it took a long time to stop thinking about it constantly... i wanted to go and take care of cooey myself.


Many felt that way Why, many!! If couey wasn't incarcerated I have no doubt-- it would have been a done deal!!

[dref99]

Has anyone looked at the logic of what Jami Floyd said - from the insession sidebar
http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/

Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required

If one of the previous five women had not "lived to tell her story" Lana Clarkson would be alive today. Or dose this mean if someone dead had testified, the testimony would be acceptable??

This reads to me like the "throw the witch in the river" theory. If she does not drown, she is a witch. If she drowns - she is not a witch.

If this is the best Jami can find - Mr Spector's appeal seems doomed to failure. There really are some defendants who are guilty as charged.

jmo

Edit: Apologies Cherylt - I should have read all your posts - before I started this one - We seem to agree

[cherylt]

I'm sure they know - can't imagine why they don't give us a heads up so we can start checking out background. But I'm happy just to let this one relax in my mind for awhile.
Its been a really long case. I really just so relieved.


Hey - I figured it out (the next live case). Go here:

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/GeneralCategories/CurrentTrials/AngieZapata/tabid/1132/Default.aspx
Transgender murder case in CO

Dref99 - no worries. We definitely agree. JF is just too much... I wish she was leaving in June instead of Lisa!

[cherylt]

the only solace is JF's replacement could be LKB

OH NO! You like her? Sorry but, I can't stand her either. I would have been OK w/ Cuby or Diane Diamond...

Blah!

[barskin&co.]

Dref, when I heard JF say this today, I also thought, ok, so we need a dead woman to testify? I thought the "last word" today was the worst ever...... absolutely defied logic.

I just posted this comment to her blog post (will they allow it?):

" April 14th, 2009 8:42 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required”

Jami, it’s official. You’re an idiot. “The others lived.” It was tragically inevitable that some woman was going to die at the hands of Phil Spector when he continually drew guns in state on them in a drunken, enraged state. The situations with the other women were no different; the others were just luckier than Lana Clarkson. As Alan Jackson said, Phil Spector had been playing Russian roulette with women’s lives for years - Lana just was the one who got the bullet.

[barskin&co.]

I did not watch that one. I have stayed away from the Caylee Anthony, Cummings and Cantu threads.

I thought Casey was innocent at first... can't comprehend a parent murdering a kid.

And yet, when a child is murdered, in 2 out of 3 cases, the parent did it.

[cherylt]

Here's a link to AC's page - Spector enters "Twin Towers"...

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/14/phil-spectors-new-digs/

Quick description of jail:

“The Twin Towers Correctional Facility is a unique complex built on 10 acres of land with buildings that contain just under 1.5 million square feet. Twin Towers consists of two towers, a medical services building, and the Los Angeles County Medical Center Jail Ward. The towers, which have been constructed using an efficient Panoptic design, to house maximum-security inmates and a large portion of the county’s mental health inmates. The Medical Services Building provides inpatient housing for inmates with various levels of acute medical and mental health needs. Inmates requiring extended levels of health care service are transported to the Los Angeles County Medical Center.”

[cherylt]

I just posted this comment to her blog post (will they allow it?):

" April 14th, 2009 8:42 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required”

Jami, it’s official. You’re an idiot. “The others lived.” It was tragically inevitable that some woman was going to die at the hands of Phil Spector when he continually drew guns in state on them in a drunken, enraged state. The situations with the other women were no different; the others were just luckier than Lana Clarkson. As Alan Jackson said, Phil Spector had been playing Russian roulette with women’s lives for years - Lana just was the one who got the bullet.


I LOVE IT! :lol: Maybe they'll just edit out the "idiot" part? ROFL!

[cook4andy]

In my opinion only, the "gooey" case was the most disturbing to me since the Manson murders. That little girl's finger poking through the garbage bag will stay with me as long as Sharon Tate curling into a fetal position to protect her 8 month old fetus.

My only solace in these horrible crimes is seeing justice done by convicting the monsters that did these things.


Hi Jester, gooey, you got that right. I cringe at the thought of him and those like him.

Sadly now we have the Anthony murder and Cantu, who knows what happened to the poor Cummings girl :( And Jessica Lunsford was a heart breaker. We helped in the searches for her. Jessica went to the same school as my grandson. After her death, he gave all his helium balloons to her, sent them to heaven to her. He was only six. Her death had a big impact on the school staff and the students of the school. It had a big impact on all of us. :sad:

Oh I remember the horror of Mason killings, especially what Sharon Tate had to endure.

Our only solace IS justice!! And how I found my way CTV and now here.

And now I'm hooked.


Am I doing a 'Happy Dance" right now for the PS verdict?

YOU BET MY BELLS!!

I'm dancing with you my friend!!

[penguin01]

:beer:I just posted this comment to her blog post (will they allow it?):

" April 14th, 2009 8:42 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required”

Jami, it’s official. You’re an idiot. “The others lived.” It was tragically inevitable that some woman was going to die at the hands of Phil Spector when he continually drew guns in state on them in a drunken, enraged state. The situations with the other women were no different; the others were just luckier than Lana Clarkson. As Alan Jackson said, Phil Spector had been playing Russian roulette with women’s lives for years - Lana just was the one who got the bullet.


Perfect comment - would be so great if they would print it!:beer:
I just don't understand why Jami has lasted this long: but I may wish her back if they end up hiring LKB.

[oodi]

I just posted this comment to her blog post (will they allow it?):

" April 14th, 2009 8:42 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required”

Jami, it’s official. You’re an idiot. “The others lived.” It was tragically inevitable that some woman was going to die at the hands of Phil Spector when he continually drew guns in state on them in a drunken, enraged state. The situations with the other women were no different; the others were just luckier than Lana Clarkson. As Alan Jackson said, Phil Spector had been playing Russian roulette with women’s lives for years - Lana just was the one who got the bullet.

LMAO!!! Right on!!!!

[kennedy06]

Here's a link to AC's page - Spector enters "Twin Towers"...

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/14/phil-spectors-new-digs/

Quick description of jail:

“The Twin Towers Correctional Facility is a unique complex built on 10 acres of land with buildings that contain just under 1.5 million square feet. Twin Towers consists of two towers, a medical services building, and the Los Angeles County Medical Center Jail Ward. The towers, which have been constructed using an efficient Panoptic design, to house maximum-security inmates and a large portion of the county’s mental health inmates. The Medical Services Building provides inpatient housing for inmates with various levels of acute medical and mental health needs. Inmates requiring extended levels of health care service are transported to the Los Angeles County Medical Center.”

Thank you for this informative link. They have his inmate # I see. Well sounds like they have the proper facilities to care for a variety of issues.

[bearwds]

Inmate 1873015

Inmate 1873015


It has a certain ring to it. Could even set it to music with a good back beat.

I will admit a certain satisfaction that a murder has not gone unanswered.

I felt the same way when justice/karma finally caught up with OJ.

There are a few awaiting. Especially Sandra from Tracy.

See you folks down the Justice Highway.


bearwds

[dref99]

I just posted this comment to her blog post (will they allow it?):

" April 14th, 2009 8:42 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
“Evidence of prior bad acts is constitutionally required to be precisely tailored to the facts of the current case — precisely tailored. In this case, the five women who testified about Spector’s prior bad behavior all lived to tell their story. Lana Clarkson did not. That makes her case different and eliminates the specificity required”

Jami, it’s official. You’re an idiot. “The others lived.” It was tragically inevitable that some woman was going to die at the hands of Phil Spector when he continually drew guns in state on them in a drunken, enraged state. The situations with the other women were no different; the others were just luckier than Lana Clarkson. As Alan Jackson said, Phil Spector had been playing Russian roulette with women’s lives for years - Lana just was the one who got the bullet.

Seems to describe the situation well - at the minute the comments don't seem to have picked up on the stupidity - you might not get past go :sad:

jmo

[kellabeck]

SNIP

As I have posted before: I do not foresee Spector going to the type of prison with conditions which many posters seem think that he will be incarcerated in. He will probably end up in the type of facilty that Dr Jeffrey MacDonald was shown lazing away at in his "60 Minutes" interview, living in a sweet bungalow without bars or Bubbas.

After much reading, watching the first trial, and following the second, my take on Sepctor is that his personality will not allow him to face a long term in prison. If he remains remanded until sentencing, I think that something will happen, possibly a severe mental breakdown, requiring him to spend a long time in a luxuorious mental health facility. I do not know about his health, maybe a heart attack will preclude the sentencing. Or, maybe something else. Spector just strikes me as a very tightly wound control freak, who could never be incarcerated, and live by the rules of others, for any length of time.

Topher

First of all, Jeffrey McDonald is doing hard time. He's not in a sweet bungalow without bars. I have no idea where you got that idea. I have seen his interviews and he is clearly incarcerated and he looks the worse for wear.

Second, what makes you think that Spector will wind up in a "luxuorious" mental health facility? If he did require a MH facility it would be courtesy of the State of California and it would NOT be luxurious.

I agree with your assessment of Spector as a control freak but he has no choice in the matter of incarceration.

He had a choice a long time ago. All he had to do was to GET RID OF THE FREAKING GUNS!! Had he done that, Lana would be alive and he would be in his castle.

[Curlyjo]

New song for Phil....oh give me a home...where the criminals roam and my new friends like bubba like to play!!!:laugh:

[Anakerie]

Inmate 1873015

Inmate 1873015


It has a certain ring to it. Could even set it to music with a good back beat.

I will admit a certain satisfaction that a murder has not gone unanswered.

I felt the same way when justice/karma finally caught up with OJ.

There are a few awaiting. Especially Sandra from Tracy.

See you folks down the Justice Highway.


bearwds
I remember a poster who used to love to use the inmate number when referring to a convict... I don't know when or why he was banned, but I miss his posts... (An "earthy fish"? lol)

You're right.. It does have a certain beat to it.. Perhaps someone could add a "wall of sound" to it too.. :D

[eagleeer]

the only solace is JF's replacement could be LKB

Solace = LKB?? You are kidding aren't you? Or am I confused about your comment? :confused:

[kellabeck]

I can't remember exactly how she worded it, but it was something to the effect that the PBAs didn't fit the pattern closely enough. I really have to wonder how she could think they differed so much. As you said... they only difference is that the others lived to tell about it.

The one common denominator of the women who survived a Spector gun rage was their KNOWING him. Each of them had a relationship of some standing with him while poor Lana didn't even know who he was at first-- or even that he was a man, don't forget. She perhaps said something and this time he pulled the trigger instead of backing down or falling asleep.

Six women, all of them alone with Spector.
Spector is drunk in each case.
In each case the women try to leave his presence.
In each case he pulls a gun or guns on them.

That's exactly what happened to Lana. Only difference: he pulled the trigger. I can't listen to Jami Floyd. She has zero credibility with her one-sided warped view of everyone's being innocent.

:tonguewag:

[Raven]

Well it's about danged time and I am thrilled with the jury's decision!

Given the minimal coverage, it's obvious ol' Phil's day in the sun passed about 30 years ago and no one is very interested in him.

I woke up to CNN this morning and THE MUG SHOT, which scared me to pieces.........it's beyond frightening.

I've missed all of you great posters and it's a good day in the neighborhood (just not Alhambra).....now I'll go back to Page 11 and continue reading the comments.

Gary, my heart goes out to you and your family.

[cherylt]

Inmate 1873015

Inmate 1873015


It has a certain ring to it. Could even set it to music with a good back beat.

I will admit a certain satisfaction that a murder has not gone unanswered.

I felt the same way when justice/karma finally caught up with OJ.

There are a few awaiting. Especially Sandra from Tracy.

See you folks down the Justice Highway.


bearwds


hmmm, theme to Jenny? 1-8-7-3-0-1-5
HE got it, HE got it... he got his # on the wall...lalalaala

[emsdallas]

Here's a link if you want details on Phil's new diggs

http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm

You only need to supply first and last name

Here's the link to the main website; some browser security settings may not work with the above link. On the left side, look for 'inmate information'.

http://www.lasd.org/

Nearly everything is online today, so as long as Phil is in custody, one should be able to locate him. Isn't the WWW wonderful:tonguewag:

Justice for Lana:rose::rose:

[Anakerie]

Harvey, Harvey, who can I turn to?
You give me something I can hold onto
I know you think I'm like the others before
Who saw your name and number on the wall



I got it, I got it, I got it!
I got your number on the wall!
I got it, I got it, I got it!
For a good time, for a good time call....

Harvey, don't change your number.
I need to make you mine.
Harvey. I'll call your number,
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)

Harvey, Harvey who can I turn to? (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
For the price of a dime I can always turn to you.
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LOL!! Mind if I give you a standing ovation? ROFLMAO!!

[cherylt]

Harvey, Harvey, who can I turn to?
You give me something I can hold onto
I know you think I'm like the others before
Who saw your name and number on the wall



I got it, I got it, I got it!
I got your number on the wall!
I got it, I got it, I got it!
For a good time, for a good time call....

Harvey, don't change your number.
I need to make you mine.
Harvey. I'll call your number,
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Harvey, Harvey who can I turn to? (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
For the price of a dime I can always turn to you.
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OK - did u read my post 1st? or did u happen to write this b4? Eerie if you did it w/out reading my post.. :)

[cherylt]

omg, we think alike :laugh:


OMG, TOO FUNNY!! :laugh: :laugh:

[eagleeer]

it was a poor choice of words...... i meant there are worse defense people who could fill the anchor slot..... jami is far better than lkb would be

Whew!!, Thanks for the clarificaton, I thought you had taken leave of your senses. :smile:

[cherylt]

Harvey, Harvey, who can you turn to?
You have nothing you can hold onto
I know you think you'll get out like the others before
Other famous people whose name should be on the wall

Harvey, we got your number,
We need to make you pine
Harvey, you can't change your number,
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Phil, Harvey, soon you will see,
You may make others so happy
You should have pled guilty, but you lost your nerve
You tried your imagination, but you are too disturbed.

Harvey, we got your number,
We need to make you pine
Harvey, you can't change your number,
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
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[cherylt]

i did not read your post first..... very weird huh?

Yeah, like almost twilight zone weird... Cool to see someone else is as warped (or as smart) as me... :thumbsup:

[Anakerie]

Harvey, Harvey, who can you turn to?
You have nothing you can hold onto
I know you think you'll get out like the others before
Other famous people whose name should be on the wall

Harvey, we got your number,
We need to make you pine
Harvey, you can't change your number,
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8-6-7-5-3-0-9 (8-6-7-5-3-0-9)

Phil, Harvey, soon you will see,
You may make others so happy
You should have pled guilty, but you lost your nerve
You tried your imagination, but you are too disturbed.

Harvey, we got your number,
We need to make you pine
Harvey, you can't change your number,
8-6-7-5-3-0-9 (8-6-7-5-3-0-9)
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LOL.. Ok, another standing ovation!! ROFLMAO!

You guys are GOOD!

[RayStar]

I wonder if he was prepared mentally for this day. I know many of us wanted him behind bars, I doubt he ever thought he would be. How many times has he thought "If I could turn back the hands of time".

[emsdallas]

Here's a link if you want details on Phil's new diggs

http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm

You only need to supply first and last name

Here's the link to the main website; some browser security settings may not work with the above link. On the left side, look for 'inmate information'.

http://www.lasd.org/

Nearly everything is online today, so as long as Phil is in custody, one should be able to locate him. Isn't the WWW wonderful:tonguewag:

Justice for Lana:rose:

Wow-according to the website, while at Twin Towers, since it's a holding facility, the only vistors allowed are "Law Enforcement and other Professions'.

Sounds like Rachelle might not get a Phil 'fix' until sentencing. That castle is probably a spooky place, especially if you're alone. Maybe Rachelle should consider transforming the Castle into a 'Bed and Breakfast'. Fix two problems, money and companionship?

Oh well, Kharma sometimes bites one's behind.

[Curlyjo]

Harvey, Harvey, who can I turn to?
You give me something I can hold onto
I know you think I'm like the others before
Who saw your name and number on the wall



I got it, I got it, I got it!
I got your number on the wall!
I got it, I got it, I got it!
For a good time, for a good time call....

Harvey, don't change your number.
I need to make you mine.
Harvey. I'll call your number,
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)

Harvey, Harvey who can I turn to? (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
For the price of a dime I can always turn to you.
(1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
1-8-7-3-0-1-5 (1-8-7-3-0-1-5)
1-8-7-3-0-1-5(//fade out//)
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okay your song is better than mine...:laugh:

[cherylt]

LOL.. Ok, another standing ovation!! ROFLMAO!

You guys are GOOD!


Ah, shucks. You are too kind! :)

[bearwds]

You guys are seriously demented.


...good work


bearwds

[cherylt]

ROFLMAO! Demented!? I love it!

Thanks! :tongueside:

[oodi]

Too funny!!! GMTA!!!

[Cornblossom]

You guys are seriously demented.


...good work


bearwdsI'm betting Chelle asks for royalties LMAO

[vonna]

ROFLMAO! Demented!? I love it!

Thanks! :tongueside:

Anyone else experiencing withdrawal??

[eagleeer]

Anyone else experiencing withdrawal??

Only the withdrawal from my money market account since I haven't worked for over six months following this debacle. :wink:

[Anakerie]

Anyone else experiencing withdrawal??
Not me! I'm content to wait until May 29th to see how long Phil's sentence is... Then I'll wait until we hear which of the corrections facilities will be his new home...

[cherylt]

Anyone else experiencing withdrawal??


Not quite right now... Reveling in the peace it brought. But I do plan to go back to sprocket's sight, because I never did get a chance to read a chunk of it. Like Anakerie said, I am content to wait for his 25+ year sentence & hopefully a real LOOK on his face afterwards on 5/29. Just wish it was sooner. :)

Have a good night all!

:seeya:

[cherylt]

I'm betting Chelle asks for royalties LMAO


SHE MAY NOT get any royalties from our hard earned work! (she better not make me pull her ponytail(s)... !!!

[coinoutlet]

Wow-according to the website, while at Twin Towers, since it's a holding facility, the only vistors allowed are "Law Enforcement and other Professions'.

Sounds like Rachelle might not get a Phil 'fix' until sentencing. That castle is probably a spooky place, especially if you're alone. Maybe Rachelle should consider transforming the Castle into a 'Bed and Breakfast'. Fix two problems, money and companionship?

Oh well, Kharma sometimes bites one's behind.

When I checked visiting hours were listed for Twin Towers?? Sun- TUE I think

[eagleeer]

When I checked visiting hours were listed for Twin Towers?? Sun- TUE I think

Why are you interested in his visiting hours, are you planning to visit him? :glare:

[Anakerie]

Why are you interested in his visiting hours, are you planning to visit him? :glare:
His daughter or sons might want to try and visit him... Who knows about Rachelle though... Think she'll go visit her "hubby"?

[oodi]

His daughter or sons might want to try and visit him... Who knows about Rachelle though... Think she'll go visit her "hubby"?

Yeah... Gary mentioned that in the radio interview last night. I hope for Gary's sake that PS would agree to see him.

[Mr. Moto2]

His daughter or sons might want to try and visit him... Who knows about Rachelle though... Think she'll go visit her "hubby"?

Anyone know what's going on with his "castle" in Alhambra? Is Rachelle living there?

[Travelbound]

The new furniture was delivered yesterday, the new curtains have been hung, the caterer's have been called and the pool has been cleaned for her big bash this weekend. Endless rows of Navygrogs and her theme is, wigs. Plenty of wigs will be passed out at the door..:tonguewag:
Good morning.:smile:

I'm gonna laugh my butt off when child bride is kicked to the curb of the castle.... LOL!! What's she gonna do then? Phil has no use for her now. Wonder if Chelle danced with his bodyguards...

[barskin&co.]

Congratulations to our talented songwriters, Why and cherylt, who have written the theme song to the movie version, "I Think I Just Killed Somebody: The Phil Spector Story."Alternate title "Troll, Interrupted."

[barskin&co.]

Anyone know what's going on with his "castle" in Alhambra? Is Rachelle living there?

Until the bank throws her out, I would assume.

[barskin&co.]

This just in: PS' agents are pitching the idea to networks for a reality show, "Phil Spector: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here." :lol: