Sandra Cantu Saturday 4/11/09 [TEACHER ARRESTED] [Archive] - Page 4

baywench

04-11-2009, 04:16 PM

If this woman took Sandra to the church and killed her there for whatever reason I think that was premeditaded because she never asked her mom if she could take her there.
I just hope this woman didn't kill her for some stuped reason like she got mad at her or she disliked her.

I can't think of any smart reasons for killing anyone either?:sad:

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:19 PM

Hi Sun......
Too bad it is not Florida. We would be able to see this women in her interviews with LE. Then again it my be for the best. Still I sure am curious what she had to say and what kind of questions were thrown at her. Wonder who her lawyer will be.

Hi TREE! :smile: Yes, I agree ~ I think we've gotten spoiled following cases in FL where everything's out in the open. I just hope Mark Geragos doesn't step in to defend her. :thumbdown: MOO

KKKKKKatie

04-11-2009, 04:20 PM

It sure should be Bama. Wonder if she has priors. It is also a 3 strikes state.

We know there are somethings...like petty theft IMO

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:21 PM

if it was my cat i would be more than just angry, would think about killing the grandfather but never in my wildest dreams the child.

i dont think thats the motive.

I've got to admit, I'd be thinking the same exact thing. I also don't think it's the motive, unless one of them belonged to her daughter, and in her (MOO) demented mind she saw this as justified. MOO

bama__angel

04-11-2009, 04:22 PM

It sure should be Bama. Wonder if she has priors. It is also a 3 strikes state.

We know now that she has a prior or 2 with petty theft from Target I think.........Target seems to be a favorite for some people.....

Ice Cycle

04-11-2009, 04:22 PM

Yes, that's what I'm not grasping. Sandra wasn't her child. She could've just told her to go home and leave her daughter alone if it was as simple as just not wanting them to be playing together. :sad:

Yes I agree their is just not something adding up here. I guess I just find it hard to believe that this was deliberate, for one being that she is the Mother of a child herself. I still wonder if she is covering for someone.

KKKKKKatie

04-11-2009, 04:22 PM

KPIX also reports that Huckaby was recently convicted for petty theft in San Joaquin County. According to court records, the judge ordered her to be examined by physicians after Huckaby claimed she was not mentally competent to stand trial. It was determined that she was competent and she pleaded guilty.

Huckaby was also convicted in November of 2006 for petty theft at the Bellflower Superior Court in Los Angeles County.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/11/earlyshow/main4936448.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4936448

bama__angel

04-11-2009, 04:24 PM

Yes I agree their is just not something adding up here. I guess I just find it hard to believe that this was deliberate, for one being that she is the Mother of a child herself. I still wonder if she is covering for someone.

So do you thinnk she was arrested to scare her to get her to talk?

Ice Cycle

04-11-2009, 04:24 PM

Something else I would like to know is if Sandra's sister was actually at her house that day, or if that was just a lie.

oodi

04-11-2009, 04:25 PM

As I understand, she was very small for her age.

I thought I heard/read somewhere that she only weighed 45 lbs.

Ice Cycle

04-11-2009, 04:26 PM

So do you thinnk she was arrested to scare her to get her to talk?

Possibly, maybe they thought a murder charge would do it. I have a feeling she will be lawyering up soon.

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:27 PM

And where was the 5 yr old when this went down? SC was a good sized girl. Wonder if she fought back. Perhaps she was drugged first and that is why they are waiting Tox results before a COD is established.

I think the 5yr. old was at home with her gp's..I think MH called for SC to come to her while she was walking home and got her in her car, took her to the church, questioned her, got mad and killed her...
OR, MH is a sexual child offender...She might have made a pass at SC and SC said she was going to tell,so she had to kill her....

MOO

bama__angel

04-11-2009, 04:28 PM

I guess no felonies.
Is there a pic of her?

Yes.....there is a pic.....I cant do links from this computer.....She was on cnn.com.........Not a flattering picture of her IMO....

oodi

04-11-2009, 04:30 PM

I guess no felonies.
Is there a pic of her?

Here's one:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30159623

titanfan217

04-11-2009, 04:31 PM

California doesn't have "Sunshine" laws like Florida. I wouldn't expect to see or hear much evidence before the hearings or the trial.

Can I say good though doubt NG would have time to cover it anyhow?

StickyBeak

04-11-2009, 04:32 PM

As much as I abhor what Sandra's grandpa was doing, why take it out on Sandra? I'm just not figuring out at all what the motive could possibly be, maybe because I was sure it would've been a SO instead of MH.

Well Sandra was a people person, seemed to talk to everyone, so maybe Mom also spoke with them. Took the sunshine off MH if she was also part of this group. God only knows what Sandra May have seen MH do or do to her daughter that infuriated enough to kill. Guess we wait, doubt we will hear any circumstance on Tuesday JMO

Anakerie

04-11-2009, 04:34 PM

Can I say good though doubt NG would have time to cover it anyhow?
Nancy seems to be too busy with the Caylee Anthony case to cover any other cases in depth... :shrug:

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:35 PM

Wow Kitty. This is just so bizarre!! It is hard for me to wrap my mind around this one.

In this day and time, nothing would surprise me.....
I am thankful she was arrested....

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:35 PM

Yes I agree their is just not something adding up here. I guess I just find it hard to believe that this was deliberate, for one being that she is the Mother of a child herself. I still wonder if she is covering for someone.

It would make a lot more sense if she was involved with somebody else, like a b/f. MOO

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:39 PM

It would make a lot more sense if she was involved with somebody else, like a b/f. MOO

Sure would..

I was setting my table today for Easter dinner tomorrow and stopped to say a prayer for Sandra's family...
Sandra should be coloring and hiding eggs with her family and friends...
My heart breaks for the family, especially the mother...
God bless them..

MOM0F4

04-11-2009, 04:39 PM

I think there has to be a male involved in all this. The more I think about it the less it makes sence.

kelloggirl

04-11-2009, 04:39 PM

I have a few questions...I still question whether or not this monster had help, even if it was just help hiding evidence. How did she know where to hide the body? LE made a comment at one point (can't remember when) that he didn't even know that the retention pond was THERE.

Actually, she herself told one of the reporters she talked to prior to her arrest that she was familiar with the farm and had spent time there when she was younger. It was one of the many red flags in her story that led me to be not at all surprised when I heard of her arrest.

She's a liar, just like Casey Anthony. None of her story about Sandra's visit, her cell and keys, etc. made any sense.

A 55 or 60 pound suitcase? Not that hard to maneuver and lift if you are desperate. C'mon gals, don't sell ourselves short by saying we need help from the menfolk for everything. This gender bias of "there must be a man involved" is very pervasive and would be downright insulting if we weren't talking about the murder of a little girl.

One only need look at how many female teachers have been arrested for sexual relations with students both male and female recently to erase doubt that females can be sexual predators too.

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:40 PM

And where was the 5 yr old when this went down? SC was a good sized girl. Wonder if she fought back. Perhaps she was drugged first and that is why they are waiting Tox results before a COD is established.

My mind's really wandering on this especially after the arrests for the child porn ring. Maybe MH was the lure, drugged Sandra and then something went terribly wrong with the plan ~ Sandra died from the drugs? MOO

oodi

04-11-2009, 04:41 PM

Thanks Oodi.
I just wonder how hard it would be for her to carry that suit case around an toss it in the water. Wonder if she had help????

I've heard that Sandra was only 45 lbs, and the suitcase probably less than 5 lbs. I'm 5'5" 125 lbs and in my younger years, I used to carry a 50 lb bag of dog food with no sweat. I don't think it would be too hard.

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:43 PM

I really have my doubts she was a sunday school teacher, she may have said that thinking the LE would never suspect her. I think she made it up. Doesn't appear she's well versed in the 10 commandments let alone teaching kids about religion. I don't think she's insane, I think maybe another Lying Murderer.JMO

RIP Sandra

God Bless the 5 yr. old( I remember her name but won't use it, she's innocent in all this.

To top it off, she was a sunday school teacher at her grandfather's church...

titanfan217

04-11-2009, 04:43 PM

I think the 5yr. old was at home with her gp's..I think MH called for SC to come to her while she was walking home and got her in her car, took her to the church, questioned her, got mad and killed her...
OR, MH is a sexual child offender...She might have made a pass at SC and SC said she was going to tell,so she had to kill her....

MOO

I'd be surprised if SC would have gone willingly without telling someone she was leaving the park. If not willingly, surprised nobody heard something. And if it happened at the church, did MH keep it there or how did it get there?

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:43 PM

Sure would..

I was setting my table today for Easter dinner tomorrow and stopped to say a prayer for Sandra's family...
Sandra should be coloring and hiding eggs with her family and friends...
My heart breaks for the family, especially the mother...
God bless them..
I know, kitty. :sad: It's a small comfort to her family that LE has made an arrest, but at the same time, how sad and troubling that she was a Sunday school teacher.

bearwds

04-11-2009, 04:45 PM

Thanks Oodi.
I just wonder how hard it would be for her to carry that suit case around an toss it in the water. Wonder if she had help????

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The cops say no....:shrug:

A five foot three, 125# woman vs. a struggling 45# child.

Plus weight of suitcase.

...unless there was no struggle.

...even so.

bearwds

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:45 PM

I've heard that Sandra was only 45 lbs, and the suitcase probably less than 5 lbs. I'm 5'5" 125 lbs and in my younger years, I used to carry a 50 lb bag of dog food with no sweat. I don't think it would be too hard.

I agree, it's not uncommon for a packed suitcase to weigh 60 lbs. And where there's a will ~ she'd be able to pick it up easily. MOO

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:45 PM

I've heard that Sandra was only 45 lbs, and the suitcase probably less than 5 lbs. I'm 5"5" 125 lbs and in my younger years, I used to carry a 50 lb bag of dog food with no sweat. I don't think it would be too hard.

I don't think it would be hard either...

KKKKKKatie

04-11-2009, 04:45 PM

I've heard that Sandra was only 45 lbs, and the suitcase probably less than 5 lbs. I'm 5'5" 125 lbs and in my younger years, I used to carry a 50 lb bag of dog food with no sweat. I don't think it would be too hard.

and besides that I'm sure it had rollers IMO so she really would only have to lift it in and out of the car....roll it to the edge of the pond and let it go into the water.

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:47 PM

I'd be surprised if SC would have gone willingly without telling someone she was leaving the park. If not willingly, surprised nobody heard something. And if it happened at the church, did MH keep it there or how did it get there?

MH could have told her she needed some help at the church for Easter things and since SC knew her, she went with her...mo

sunstar

04-11-2009, 04:48 PM

Sorry Sun.......I am not caught up on this case............What child porn ring?

I got it from this ~

"Now, according to the Tracy Press, investigators in the case say they are looking at 60 individuals in the Tracy area who have been identified trafficking in child pornography, along with 78 "registered" sex offenders.

It is believed to be the first time in the U.S. that police have publicly acknowledged the huge population of known but not arrested child pornography suspects in a missing child case.

While visiting the homes of "registered" sex offenders is common in missing children cases, the public is mostly unaware that U.S. law enforcement has also identified hundreds of thousands of criminals trafficking in child pornography. "

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april062009/child_porn_connect_4-6-09.php

beamer

04-11-2009, 04:49 PM

It just doesn't fit into my head a mother of a young girl killing an inocent girl herself.

God only knows what her own daughter went threw living with this person. I still think She had help and i think it was the church keeper. jmo

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:49 PM

If there is anyone else involved, I hope MH starts singing!

Ice Cycle

04-11-2009, 04:50 PM

MH could have told her she needed some help at the church for Easter things and since SC knew her, she went with her...mo

Yes but LE said it happened right after seeing her on the video so what is it she could of done in that time frame, let alone why?
Unless they are wrong about the time frame.

ginky41

04-11-2009, 04:51 PM

So do you thinnk she was arrested to scare her to get her to talk?

I may be going out on a limb here but it seemed to me that Sheneman said (without really saying) that MH confessed. IMOO.

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:52 PM

Yes but LE said it happened right after seeing her on the video so what is it she could of done in that time frame, let alone why?
Unless they are wrong about the time frame.

She could have gotten in the car with MH and went to the church..The church is within walking distance, not far....At the church is where it went down, didn't take long..MOO

oodi

04-11-2009, 04:52 PM

and besides that I'm sure it had rollers IMO so she really would only have to lift it in and out of the car....roll it to the edge of the pond and let it go into the water.

You would also have to add in the adrenalin factor, which I'm sure would make it easier for MH to move it.

titanfan217

04-11-2009, 04:54 PM

MH could have told Sandra that she had spoken to her mother and gotten the okay. Probably easier since she was female.

That makes more sense.

MrLucky917B

04-11-2009, 04:57 PM

Possibly, maybe they thought a murder charge would do it. I have a feeling she will be lawyering up soon.

Since lenny is right up the road do you think he will try and bail her out :lol:

StickyBeak

04-11-2009, 04:58 PM

Yes, I'm sure. A friend of mine who lives in Tracy was out with the search parties with his dog in the area of those ponds. Those ponds are used for the processing of cow excrement.

Wow, so they process waste, wonder if they add lime and other break down chemicals. Must make for some killer tomator plants, LOL.

My Dad always gardened with manure, preferably horse but years later science discovered unprocessed can cause some morbid diseases. Makes you wonder how everyone lived to a ripe ole age.
The pictures of the "ponds" remind me of our cranberry bogs here, driving around these ponds can be harrowing. Someone had to know the area JMO

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 04:58 PM

Since lenny is right up the road do you think he will try and bail her out :lol:

lol..Thank goodness she has no bail......

ginky41

04-11-2009, 04:59 PM

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/a...ect_4-6-09.php

Regarding the article saying that Tracy police are now looking a possible ring....that was BEFORE Sandra's little body was found. It sounds to me like that was also BEFORE they had any idea what really happened. Child goes missing > it's not readily obvious who's to blame > first place you check is sexual predators, etc. etc.

*MoonRider*

04-11-2009, 05:02 PM

***************************

The cops say no....:shrug:

A five foot three, 125# woman vs. a struggling 45# child.

Plus weight of suitcase.

...unless there was no struggle.

...even so.

bearwds

Did the suitcase have wheels? tia

sunstar

04-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Thanks Sun and all of you great posters for the info. I have to go. I will try to check in later.

You're most welcome, TREE! :smile:

ginky41

04-11-2009, 05:05 PM

Did the suitcase have wheels? tia

I listened for the first 25 min or so....IIRC they didn't say anything about the suitcase having wheels. He did make it very clear, IMO, that they do not believe anyone else was involved in THIS crime.

sunstar

04-11-2009, 05:05 PM

StickyBeak

04-11-2009, 05:07 PM

Come on Over to new Evening Thread, we are over 1000 posts.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=351789

dinojen

04-11-2009, 05:09 PM

Just a heads up about KRON's broadcast tonite at 5. PST.

KRON 4 will have complete coverage during the 5:00 p.m. news. We will also broadcast a special report on the developments in this case Saturday evening between 7:00 and 8:00. KRON 4's Kimberlee Sakamoto will live blog during that same time right here on KRON4.com

http://www.kron.com/

MOM0F4

04-11-2009, 05:10 PM

That makes more sense.

If she did this then she premiditated the whole thing.

sunstar

04-11-2009, 05:11 PM

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 05:13 PM

If she did this then she premiditated the whole thing.

I agree........

Anakerie

04-11-2009, 05:51 PM

Since lenny is right up the road do you think he will try and bail her out :lol:
Lordy... I hope he's smarter than that!

Why on earth would he want to get involved with another murdering mom?

Ice Cycle

04-11-2009, 05:52 PM

Since lenny is right up the road do you think he will try and bail her out :lol:

Just was able to get back on and saw this- lets hope not but I bet he does already have it figured out for the 10th time.

Di Z

04-11-2009, 06:44 PM

Hi there Sis!!!!!:smile:

Hi back to you Sissie! Good to see you. This is just so awful. Seems like little kids just don't stand a chance. I am getting sick of it!!:angry:

kitty1182

04-11-2009, 06:46 PM

Hi back to you Sissie! Good to see you. This is just so awful. Seems like little kids just don't stand a chance. I am getting sick of it!!:angry:

I am too Sis....There is a new thread on here too..
So good to see you!!!!

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=351789