Haleigh Cummings, 4/10, 4/11, 4/12 [Archive]

CANDYKISSES

04-10-2009, 10:35 AM

A miracle for sure is what's needed.

Has this case gone pretty cold?

I don't know if LE would call it that Amanda, but I am afraid it's not looking good IMOO. :sad:

Rumors and innuendo about the days prior to her disappearance are leading the charge and no real answers on the DCF investigation...

Just think, this was last Easter....it's heartbreaking....:wub:

What a lovely child she is and I can tell she liked being the big sister "sissy".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h69zFz1kpRo&feature=related

I'll bet everyone in her family would give just about anything to see her like this again Sunday. The miracle is all that's left at this point Amanda.

JMO

Politigal

04-10-2009, 10:59 AM

I don't know if LE would call it that Amanda, but I am afraid it's not looking good IMOO. :sad:

Rumors and innuendo about the days prior to her disappearance are leading the charge and no real answers on the DCF investigation...

Just think, this was last Easter....it's heartbreaking....:wub:

What a lovely child she is and I can tell she liked being the big sister "sissy".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h69zFz1kpRo&feature=related

I'll bet everyone in her family would give just about anything to see her like this again Sunday. The miracle is all that's left at this point Amanda.

JMO

such a very sweet video.....thx for posting

AmndaRcknwth

04-10-2009, 11:19 AM

beachpatty

04-10-2009, 11:41 AM

Nice vid, she is truly adorable.

I know there is no 'handbook' so to speak for missing people families, but man oh man... if this family had done things a bit more united, even if it was an act, I have to believe there would be more answers and more interest.

I find it hard to believe that so much focus is still on Caseys case, and dwindled to less than a peep on Haleigh. That dollbaby is out there somewhere.

The same thing happened with little Adji, Immokalee, Fl, he is a special needs child, too. Nothing about him locally and he disappeared not far from here. Nancy Grace keeps pounding casey anthony and the rest of that side show, night after night. sad.

I know it's so hard when the babies are missing, the holidays are worse. I can't fathom ho Sandra Cantu's family will survive this weekend, she was such a happy, adorable little princess.

moo
beachpatty

JD1974

04-10-2009, 11:54 AM

The same thing happened with little Adji, Immokalee, Fl, he is a special needs child, too. Nothing about him locally and he disappeared not far from here. Nancy Grace keeps pounding casey anthony and the rest of that side show, night after night. sad.

I know it's so hard when the babies are missing, the holidays are worse. I can't fathom ho Sandra Cantu's family will survive this weekend, she was such a happy, adorable little princess.

moo
beachpatty

I had never heard of little Adji until someone on one of the boards mentioned him on another thread. I cannot understand why CA still gets so much attention, I didn't follow the case all that much and I am about as pro-defense as they come yet I think that girl is stone cold guilty...

Haleigh is still missing, so is Adji so are so many others, I really wish the focus would be taken off the cases that are pretty much solved (until trial of course) and put back onto the missing kids and adults who haven't been found yet.

I agree it will take a miracle to find Haleigh, I really hope there is one for her... Just like on Valentine's Day when I watched my girls go out and hand out Valentine's to their little friends, I thought of Haleigh and how she should be doing the same thing. I will also think about her with sadness when they are coloring their eggs...search for them on Easter morning, excitedly going through their Easter baskets..someone robbed Haleigh of being able to do all of these things and whoever it is needs to pay dearly.

JD1974

04-10-2009, 01:45 PM

I know what you mean, but look at the threads. Caylee's thread continues on all day everyday, Sandra Cantu's is right behind her. Haleigh's? Not so much, hasn't even gotten past the first page yet today.:sad: With no new info coming out, NONE, what can we continue to discuss? Last night some posters and I were talking about Sheriff Hardy, but there is no news on poor little Haleigh and that's what makes the interest go way down, imo.

Does anyone know what happened to the thread for yesterday? Does that get deleted or merged into the normal thread?

moo

I follow Sandra's case also, because there is still the mystery of who murdered her. I agree with you about nothing to really discuss, so I guess until something breaks Haleigh will be on the backburner which breaks my heart.

Politigal

04-10-2009, 01:48 PM

CNN has a new imagesource Beta --- just search Haleigh Cummings and it brings up several videos/images related to the case

http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesource/ViewAsset.action?viewAsset=&_sourcePage=%2FWEB-INF%2Fpages%2Fbrowseaction%2FsearchResults.jsp&cnnId=05996438&searchResultsActionBeanClass=com.cnn.imagesource.a ction.search.BrowseActionBean&damId=5996438

KKKKKKatie

04-10-2009, 02:03 PM

Talking to myself I guess, lol. Why did last nights thread get deleted? :confused: Anyone?

it probably was moved to the regular Haleigh forum

Squidward

04-10-2009, 03:12 PM

Two months since Haleigh
disappeared

here's an article, but it has no new news :sad:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/041009haleigh_missing_two_months

Texas48

04-10-2009, 03:21 PM

The same thing happened with little Adji, Immokalee, Fl, he is a special needs child, too. Nothing about him locally and he disappeared not far from here. Nancy Grace keeps pounding casey anthony and the rest of that side show, night after night. sad.

I know it's so hard when the babies are missing, the holidays are worse. I can't fathom ho Sandra Cantu's family will survive this weekend, she was such a happy, adorable little princess.

moo
beachpattyOhhh..You mentioned little Adji..I mentioned him last week on Haleigh Thread..Have thought about him so much and cannot begin to imagine NOT ever finding this child. None of the shows even show his picture any more much less talk about him..Sad. ..and yes for Sandra Cantu's family..I don't think this family will ever be able to live even a partial normal life after this childs death. My heart was breaking for her mother when she tried to address the public...The words just will not come. Then there is little Haleigh..Another child lost into the night. I can only speak for myself when I say I/my family is certainly blessed. To ALL please have a great Easter...

Texas48

04-10-2009, 03:24 PM

I know what you mean, but look at the threads. Caylee's thread continues on all day everyday, Sandra Cantu's is right behind her. Haleigh's? Not so much, hasn't even gotten past the first page yet today.:sad: With no new info coming out, NONE, what can we continue to discuss? Last night some posters and I were talking about Sheriff Hardy, but there is no news on poor little Haleigh and that's what makes the interest go way down, imo.

Does anyone know what happened to the thread for yesterday? Does that get deleted or merged into the normal thread?

mooas always you are correct 51..I saw how many was on the Caylee thread..and I felt so sad for little Haleigh. But you said it..NO NEWS. that is what we are left with. Happy Easter 51Viking.

cat3

04-10-2009, 05:28 PM

titanfan217

04-10-2009, 05:48 PM

I have a question about the "greg story".

Didn't he say he didn't see MC after early Sunday? If so, how would he know she spent Monday at the hospital with her dad? Was that mentioned somewhere else & has it been verified?

Oh, I finally saw the photo of Haleigh with her dad on the Haleighbug website. It's a part of a slideshow of a number of photos and doesn't come up all that often.

FrankieBones1

04-10-2009, 05:54 PM

I hadn't heard anything about Misty/hospital/dad...what is that all about?
Greg talked about it in his interview with Art Harris.

Texas48

04-10-2009, 06:03 PM

Talking to myself I guess, lol. Why did last nights thread get deleted? :confused: Anyone?Not to be confused 51Viking..the threads are there and not deleted..I thought the same early this am and I searched till I found them..

FrankieBones1

04-10-2009, 06:04 PM

In our interview, Page says he last saw Misty about 4 a.m. Sunday, Feb, 8, and learned later she was going to visit her father, laid up in the hospital from a car accident, busted leg.

Pia, you can hear Greg for yourself on audio.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/03/exclusive-white-boy-greg-and-misty-cummings/#more-1526

Texas48

04-10-2009, 06:09 PM

I follow Sandra's case also, because there is still the mystery of who murdered her. I agree with you about nothing to really discuss, so I guess until something breaks Haleigh will be on the backburner which breaks my heart.
I try and look in on all but have been trying to spend the most time on Haleigh's board as it just seems she has the least.. The only time I saw posters outnumber Caylee's board was when the news broke of the marriage. So I suppose something has to happen among the families in order to get her little name back on top. What can it be?

Texas48

04-10-2009, 06:16 PM

Happy Easter to you to Texas:biggrin:. I just wonder why the thread last night got deleted, it wasn't merged and all posts are deleted, strange. I had posted last night that I found it strange that Ronald and Sheriff Hardy belonged to the same church, even though the church wouldn't marry Ronald and Misty. Also found it strange that Sheriff Hardy worked in the narcotics unit and the school system for so long and I wondered if maybe there were ties along that line.:confused:

jmo You never know in small communities like they live in..Everyone is usually kin to the next and everyone knows everybody's business and if they know whats going on they make it up..sound familiar? lol..only kidding but that is daily life in places like that. I feel certain the LE in that town is very familiar with ALL involved and then some. kwim? lol..

Texas48

04-10-2009, 06:19 PM

I just checked the Art Harris site,and it looks as though Art will be on Geraldo this Saturday.From the blurb on the AH site it looks as though it will be yet another smear of Ron Cummings.

I can't imagine how the family will get through this Easter holiday.,especially Jr.So sad for all of them.I have no doubt that Haleigh is/was a much loved child.

This is one of my favorite video's as far as pics,although the song is kind of cheesy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWEWJWZ-Ts&feature=channelAs much as I would like for the media to be covering Haleigh which they are not I wish GR or anyone else could let it all rest for Easter. Its going to hard enough for the families of Haleigh to get through the weekend as it is.

Texas48

04-10-2009, 06:22 PM

titanfan217

04-10-2009, 08:21 PM

I had not heard anything about Misty's dad being in the hospital but me missing something is nothing new. Where did you read this?? Please and TY

It's in the Art Harris interview.

There's a link in response #26. That would probably work better than my trying to do a link. I'm still learning.

Mimi428

04-10-2009, 08:40 PM

Happy Easter to you to Texas:biggrin:. I just wonder why the thread last night got deleted, it wasn't merged and all posts are deleted, strange. I had posted last night that I found it strange that Ronald and Sheriff Hardy belonged to the same church, even though the church wouldn't marry Ronald and Misty. Also found it strange that Sheriff Hardy worked in the narcotics unit and the school system for so long and I wondered if maybe there were ties along that line.:confused:

jmo

Are you sure that was deleted? I just saw a post of yours on the 4/9 thread, written about 1:45 in the morning (CDT) & it mentioned Ron & Sheriff Hardy belonging to the same church.

Mimi428

04-10-2009, 08:50 PM

As much as I would like for the media to be covering Haleigh which they are not I wish GR or anyone else could let it all rest for Easter. Its going to hard enough for the families of Haleigh to get through the weekend as it is.

Considering how little the media is covering this story right now, I am happy to hear someone, anyone is going to do an update on the story. If it has to be Geraldo, so be it.

I don't have much hope that Haleigh is alive after this length of time, but I try to keep just a tiny bit of hope up that she might be. On the small chance that she is - & is hoping desperately for someone to find her - I don't think she would appreciate hearing at a later date the excuse that they couldn't look on April 12, 2009, because it was Easter. I know if I were in her family's shoes, I sure wouldn't want to hear that everything was put to the side because of the holiday.

JMO

grammie/va

04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

I come here and read everyday and check the links for updates, Haleigh is not forgotten. I just don;t like all the taking sides with the families, the bashing and all of that, I just don;t think that helps in solving what happened to Haleigh, and for me that is what is important. All the other people have to answer for themselves JMOO

titanfan217

04-10-2009, 10:12 PM

OT IS NG worth watching tonight?

titanfan217

04-11-2009, 12:08 AM

Just a lot more OC tantrums. Quiet here now, I guess everybody has gone over Sandra's forum. Lots going on there.

Thanks. I'll pass.

TaraCrazyHair

04-11-2009, 01:29 AM

TaraCrazyHair

04-11-2009, 01:36 AM

I think it is the Sandra case I read that when LE is unusually quiet that means they are close to an arrest

Could that be the case here?

Maybe they have been watching, following, phone tapping and big news of an arrest will come soon?

One can hope

TaraCrazyHair

04-11-2009, 02:04 AM

I hope you're right Tara, but some posters have been saying that for a month now and still, nothing.

I wonder if Geraldo and Art will bring anything new tomorrow night or if they will just rehash old stuff. Can we get just a little something new? Something for the public/community to help with or details to look for? I always wondered why, if Misty said that the pink shirt was found and Haleigh wasn't wearing it, what was she wearing and why couldn't Ronald and Misty have gone through the laundry to see if something else was missing? If le came out and said no clothing was missing, it may change the case and further point to an SO taking her.

jmo

Well, obviously some clothes had to missing

She wore something to bed!

But if Ron didn't care to ask if Misty noticed Haleigh missing before she got up to pee or afterwards ... I guess what she was wearing didn't matter either

Pag Boi

04-11-2009, 07:44 AM

I took it to mean that Ron tried to get the caseworker to vouch for him but it didn't work.

I doubt if anyone form DCS will be on because I don't think they can talk about their cases publicly, so I don't really know what Art and Geraldo will be revealing tomorrow night.

I could be completely wrong but that's how I read it.

I took it to mean that Art & Cobra will never dazzle anyone with brillance, much less the truth, so he baffles em with bullsh!t.

Ron has DCF vouching for him. Did you miss the beg of the investigation? DCF said they had been called about the family BUT the kids were still w/Ron. IOW, there was NO ONE to vouch that the kids should be removed.

Ron had the caseworker and the jurist vouch for him in the custody hearings. Despite Crystal's many attempts, she couldn't get anyone to vouch that Ron was a crappy father.

Why even Crystal HERSELF said on national tv, that Ron would never hurt Haleigh. Surely no one is accusing biomom of being a liar?:tonguewag:

I can't believe anyone is taking AH's come-ons seriously. IF he had info, he'd tell the cops STAT. There is no reason to hold back info in this case. Just as there is no reason for KP/CS NOT to seek emergency custody of JR if there is any truth to the abuse allegations.
JMOO

Texas48

04-11-2009, 09:59 AM

I mean, what is he saying? Is he saying that Ronald is claiming that a person is vouching for his character? Or that he is going to have someone from DCS on? I'm not understanding what exactly Art is getting at. I need a translation, lol. I'm tired and not getting what Art is saying?TY for the link 51...I am right along side of you so when someone explains it to you make sure you pass it to me..????????:confused:

Texas48

04-11-2009, 10:02 AM

Texas48

04-11-2009, 10:05 AM

I'm so glad too. For a few days I thought maybe Art (and Geraldo) were going to pass Haleigh by too, like most other reporters are doing. I can't, for the life of me, understand why everyone is dropping this. A lot of people say it's because of the drama there, but I don't buy that excuse because generally the reporters love this kind of story.

I think NG focusing solely on "tot mom" is disgusting, imo. I have lost so much respect for her.
jmoI agree that the *shows* should be reporting on all but what is report anymore..All the media hype seems to be focused on KC..George and Cindy...Will be glad when this trial gets started and is OVER..

titanfan217

04-11-2009, 10:07 AM

Texas48

04-11-2009, 10:07 AM

I think it is so sad that virtually everyone seems to have forgotten this little girl or just don't really care

It is almost like "well we know what the end result is going to be so why bother" type thingI hate to believe LE/FBI forgets about a missing child and it
they just don't know or...they know and are waiting..Is a toss up at this point.

Texas48

04-11-2009, 10:14 AM

'Night viking.

At least we got a good start on the second page tonight!And I TY you both for that 2nd page. I tried yesterday and just could not do it by myself...lol.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 10:20 AM

Comments after too early morning after too late night.

Breaking news -- CA already has an arrest and what stuck out was that her story kept changing. Where are we hearing that one?

Comment -- If what I'm reading is correct, TN worked at least someone connected with LE, that's a big red flag with me. sounds like what we use to call CMA and I'm not talking about another case in FL.

OT, but allegedly Melissa had been accused of drugging a child before and she was offering up contradictory stories to a NEWSPAPER for some kind of attention that might actually take LE somewhere.

But take the idea Melissa 28, was there FIVE HOURS WITH LE vs MISTY 17, FOR THIRTY HOURS and that might speak for why there is still no arrest in Haleigh's case IMO.

I still don't buy that the 17 year old is keeping the cops at bay and putting the kabosh on the investigation AS FAR AS HER INVOLVEMENT GOES...JMO THO and I am not married to the idea she is innocent, just don't believe Misty has done something to Haleigh and that there's absolutely no forensic evidence to work with....clean kill would be an understatement IMO.

Still PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE FOR HALEIGH AND HER FAMILY. :wub:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 10:21 AM

More drivel from AH.:glare:

That last one is pathetic IMO. I almost feel sorry for ART. He must be spread pretty thin Lizzie. :sad:

:wub:BRING HALEIGH HOME AND GIVE THE FAMILY A MIRACLE!

Pag Boi

04-11-2009, 10:42 AM

OT, but allegedly Melissa had been accused of drugging a child before and she was offering up contradictory stories to a NEWSPAPER for some kind of attention that might actually take LE somewhere.

But take the idea Melissa 28, was there FIVE HOURS WITH LE vs MISTY 17, FOR THIRTY HOURS and that might speak for why there is still no arrest in Haleigh's case IMO.

I still don't buy that the 17 year old is keeping the cops at bay and putting the kabosh on the investigation AS FAR AS HER INVOLVEMENT GOES...JMO THO and I am not married to the idea she is innocent, just don't believe Misty has done something to Haleigh and that there's absolutely no forensic evidence to work with....clean kill would be an understatement IMO.

Still PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE FOR HALEIGH AND HER FAMILY. :wub:

Thank you, CANDYKISSES, for pointing out the first of many diffs in the cases. Those that want to condemn LE in FL fail to mention that the FBI was involved from early on w/Haleigh's case. They fail to remember that LE has had 17yo Misty interviewed by "some of the finest criminal investigators in the country" and they still haven't come up with a single charge against Misty OR Ron.

HOPE FOR HALEIGH :ROSE:

Pag Boi

04-11-2009, 10:52 AM

Wow, that was a bit long winded and pretty left field to anything I said but at least you got to trash Crystal in the process. :drool:

You're so sweet to speak up on my behalf.

However, I wouldn't want your biased interpretation of Art's (aka the unknown blogger) babble to somehow morph into a "fact."

crymeariver2006

04-11-2009, 11:20 AM

OT, but allegedly Melissa had been accused of drugging a child before and she was offering up contradictory stories to a NEWSPAPER for some kind of attention that might actually take LE somewhere.

But take the idea Melissa 28, was there FIVE HOURS WITH LE vs MISTY 17, FOR THIRTY HOURS and that might speak for why there is still no arrest in Haleigh's case IMO.

I still don't buy that the 17 year old is keeping the cops at bay and putting the kabosh on the investigation AS FAR AS HER INVOLVEMENT GOES...JMO THO and I am not married to the idea she is innocent, just don't believe Misty has done something to Haleigh and that there's absolutely no forensic evidence to work with....clean kill would be an understatement IMO.

Still PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE FOR HALEIGH AND HER FAMILY. :wub:

So was she convicted of drugging a child or was she just accused?

'Cause there's been a lot of accusations, but no convictions in this case and people think that it doesn't mean anything.

Pag Boi

04-11-2009, 11:26 AM

Wow, that was a bit long winded and pretty left field to anything I said but at least you got to trash Crystal in the process. :drool:

Tiff - I am so sorry I came across as hostile. Rereading your post above, I see that you are very kind and speak so gently. I can only apologize and try to emulate your way with words.

.

grammie/va

04-11-2009, 11:34 AM

Just making the rounds of all the boards that are pertaining to our wonderful children. It is beyond me what is going on in this world that our kids are not safe in their own enviroment. I just don't understand!!!! Hoping for some resolution in this case soon. Maybe LE is just taking a good look at everything and will find WHAT they are missing. JMOO

Mimi428

04-11-2009, 11:39 AM

I took it to mean that Ron tried to get the caseworker to vouch for him but it didn't work.

I doubt if anyone form DCS will be on because I don't think they can talk about their cases publicly, so I don't really know what Art and Geraldo will be revealing tomorrow night.

I could be completely wrong but that's how I read it.

That's how I read it, too. That Ron was unhappy with the confrontation with GR & the accusations of drug use & that he (Ron) believed he would be able to get something like a good character reference from a case worker he had prior dealings with.

I don't think there will be any revelations about any DCF investigations, there are some pretty strict privacy laws covering that, so it does make me wonder what will be reported on GR's show.

I'm frustrated that there is so little information from LE, but I still think that some day soon we will learn more about typical goings-on in Ron's household & his life - & I just don't think it is going to be along the lines of 'dedicated father spends every moment taking care of his children, sacrificing mightily in the process. My guess is it will be more along the lines of Teresa & Annette provided the lion's share of caretaking, babysitting & general day-to-day responsibilities while Ron did pretty much what he wanted.

JMO

Mimi428

04-11-2009, 12:08 PM

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm also glad that at least someone is keeping Haleigh in the news but I've gotten pretty cynical about these th's that rehash old news and hook you in with words like BREAKING NEWS and BOMBSHELL so I'm not holding my breath.

Btw, AH has a new interview w/ WBG on his site, if you haven't seen it already.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/11/exclusive-white-boy-greg-on-the-bald-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-31843

Thanks for that link. I listened again yesterday to the audio interview of WBG & I was thinking about a couple of things that I found pretty disturbing. The main one was that he indicated that Misty told him that Ron was physically violent - I could not catch whether the specifics were that she was talking about past behavior or whether it was the reason she left the house. Either way, if what he indicated turns out to be essentially accurate, it sure doesn't sound as if that household was a place of peacefulness.

JMO

Pag Boi

04-11-2009, 12:18 PM

Mimi428

04-11-2009, 12:57 PM

It's the second time he mentioned it. In the first interview, WBG said virtually the same thing about how he and Misty got together in the first place. Her and Ron broke up, she hung out w/ Nay Nay to party and get her mind off of Ron and they ran into WBG who knows Nay Nay.

If I'm interpreting it correctly, he's saying that Misty left RC because they fight all the time and he gets physical. I'm not at all surprised. Ron's violent tendencies were pretty apparent from the first 911 call, imo.

That is the way I was understanding it, too. That Misty was relating that Ron was physically violent. And if the other stories are true, Amber also has related the same, essential information to one person or another - like Nay Nay.

Another thing that I think supports the notion that Ron is no stranger to committing physical violence was in seeing the actions of the other people who were near him when GR confronted him with the accusations of drug use, etc. You notice that other people decided to step inbetween the two of them. That is a very common scenario when it comes to violent people - you will see their parents, their spouse, their friends step in to try to intervene when they see them looking as if they are about to strike out. I sure don't think they believed that Geraldo was going to do something like smack Ron - I think what they were concerned with was that Ron was going to get physical.

JMO

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 01:01 PM

So was she convicted of drugging a child or was she just accused?

'Cause there's been a lot of accusations, but no convictions in this case and people think that it doesn't mean anything.

Honest to Pete, I don't think I put convicted anywhere in my post. I thought it was pretty clear as was the comparison of NUMBER OF HOURS interviewed IIRC and the age difference too.

Apples and oranges IMOO. :sneaky:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 01:07 PM

I don't understand why Crystal tells so many inconsistent stories. I mean either Ron would never hurt Haleigh or he was abusive.

Either she had a custody dispute or not.

Either she has a seizure disorder or she does not.

She either had a clean drug test or she had Xanex in it

She either passed the LDT or she made it up

That's my 1st set of questions :)

JMOO

OMG, can't forget that Haleigh is his heart, but now I guess not if she has gone back to reporting. I guess time will tell if it was like the FALSE REPORT ON A FELONY Crystal allegedly committed.....:sad:

And some posters gripe about LE coming out and mentioning the false leads from angry ex's. Imagine that???

I'm shocked anyone wouldn't believe everything coming from this cast of characters. jMO.

Poor Haleigh, she deserves better. :wub:

Mimi428

04-11-2009, 01:27 PM

I think it's pretty unlikely that so many people are lying on poor Ron, but that's jmo.

I think a lot of people are protecting him but I also think that he'll bully Misty once too often and she'll roll over on him. Then we may find out what really happened to Haleigh.

AMO

I keep wondering why her family does not step up for her. It sure seems as if she was tossed out to fend for herself at a very young age.

I was originally under the impression that she had met WBG some time earlier than the weekend before Haleigh disappeared - but after hearing him say that the first time they met up was just a few days before Haleigh disappeared - & that it very quickly included intimate relations - well, that sort of information really concerns me about what her life has been like.

JMO

Texas48

04-11-2009, 01:44 PM

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 01:44 PM

~~rimshot~~:tongue:

Lizzie, in the new interview with Greg, he sounds like everyone wants to portray poor Crystal IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkAPOfXZKQ

SPLICED AND EDITED CLIP MIND YOU....

You know the mantra, not responsible for their own behavior, someone else made them do it, victim of circumstances....I almost feel sorry for him just like I used to for Crystal before reality sank in. JMO

OMG, he don't even know Kim & Co. are the ones who throwed him out there as the mystery man or he wouldn't be doing his show for ART the new BFF of COBRA IMOO.

"I don't know I NEVER DEALT WITH HIM...." edited by Art too....oh Greg, I'll bet you believe he'll help you get your school money too by putting you up there on his site.

barf

Oh goodness, now Greg himself is saying others are comparing him to Ronald, you know the guy on the news with having a lot of charges and no convictions and working with police and all that....OMG...

WHAT A WINNER...

"SOMEBODY HAS THE HEART TAKE A GUN TO ROB A DRUG MAN IN THE DRUG HOLE"

barf GREG at 1:04 in the video.

This is without a doubt the worst shoddy piece of garbage to hit youtube under Art's name. Sad to think he sold himself into this kind of role IMOO.

crymeariver2006

04-11-2009, 01:48 PM

Honest to Pete, I don't think I put convicted anywhere in my post. I thought it was pretty clear as was the comparison of NUMBER OF HOURS interviewed IIRC and the age difference too.

Apples and oranges IMOO. :sneaky:

No, you said there were "accusations" that she had drugged a child in the past, that's why I asked if she had been convicted of those "accusations".

IMO, there were two different parts to your post. I was only addressing the part about the accusations of drugging a child by MH.

IMO, on the one hand you have "accusations" about Ron Cummings and drugs, but no convictions. Then you state that MH has had "accusations" about drugging a child, but no information on any convictions. I don't believe that is apples to oranges. Two people with accusations and no convictions. What is implied on this board is that because there are no convictions of Ron Cummings then the allegations of drug use/abuse MUST NOT be true, but because MH also has an allegation of drugging a child, but no convictions, then somehow it MUST be true.

Double standard, IMO.

cat3

04-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Lizzie, in the new interview with Greg, he sounds like everyone wants to portray poor Crystal IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkAPOfXZKQ

SPLICED AND EDITED CLIP MIND YOU....

You know the mantra, not responsible for their own behavior, someone else made them do it, victim of circumstances....I almost feel sorry for him just like I used to for Crystal before reality sank in. JMO

OMG, he don't even know Kim & Co. are the ones who throwed him out there as the mystery man or he wouldn't be doing his show for ART the new BFF of COBRA IMOO.

"I don't know I NEVER DEALT WITH HIM...." edited by Art too....oh Greg, I'll bet you believe he'll help you get your school money too by putting you up there on his site.

barf

Oh goodness, now Greg himself is saying others are comparing him to Ronald, you know the guy on the news with having a lot of charges and no convictions and working with police and all that....OMG...

WHAT A WINNER...

"SOMEBODY HAS THE HEART TAKE A GUN TO ROB A DRUG MAN IN THE DRUG HOLE"

barf GREG at 1:04 in the video.

This is without a doubt the worst shoddy piece of garbage to hit youtube under Art's name. Sad to think he sold himself into this kind of role IMOO.

That was the worst,well almost the worst I have seen from AH.I think the winner was the TN/Cobra debacle.I agree with you about Greg saying the media put him out there when it was Cobra and KP.My favorite part was Greg saying that he got caught with someone elses drugs,and that he isn't a bad guy,really he isn't.lol. Seems as though he wants some consideration for his past,but then goes on to talk s**t about RC.Shouldn't he afford RC the same consideration he asks for?
I imagine we will hear the parts that AH left out tonight on Geraldo,or maybe AH is saving them for later use.IMO

cat3

04-11-2009, 03:24 PM

That is the way I was understanding it, too. That Misty was relating that Ron was physically violent. And if the other stories are true, Amber also has related the same, essential information to one person or another - like Nay Nay.

Another thing that I think supports the notion that Ron is no stranger to committing physical violence was in seeing the actions of the other people who were near him when GR confronted him with the accusations of drug use, etc. You notice that other people decided to step inbetween the two of them. That is a very common scenario when it comes to violent people - you will see their parents, their spouse, their friends step in to try to intervene when they see them looking as if they are about to strike out. I sure don't think they believed that Geraldo was going to do something like smack Ron - I think what they were concerned with was that Ron was going to get physical.

JMO

My take on family members stepping between Ron and Geraldo was that they were upset on Ron's behalf and wanted Geraldo to leave.
Ron,in my opinion showed great restraint with Geraldo.Not many people would take kindly to allegations of being a narc.Geraldo was looking for a reaction from Ron,and was probably sorry he didn't get one.No doubt Geraldo is still stewing about being told not to come back,or charges of trespassing would be filed against him.IMO

forensicfan

04-11-2009, 04:13 PM

forensicfan

04-11-2009, 04:17 PM

Tiffany, this time I had to bold your post. I so agree, and if had been one dog that hit, personally I would have thought that dog made a mistake. I do not see 3 dogs making the same mistake though.

I also don't know why they didn't lay everything on the ground and let the dogs do another search. Then if the dogs hit, on anything or inside the dumpster, send it to the lab, and I don't care if it didn't seem to be connected to the case, they should have sent it to the lab.

Now, if they did this and I don't know it, then I would feel bad for saying that. I don't think they did though, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

I agree with you apple. I don't think they did lay everything out for the dogs to go through again but I could mistaken as well. I was also thinking the same thing as far as the dogs hitting on the dumpster. SOMETHING had to have been in there for three different dogs to hit on it. Could have been a towel or napkin or anything but they would have at least had something to go on. It could be that her body (or somebody's body) could have been in there at one time and then removed but still, they would at least have something else to go on I think.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 04:50 PM

The double standard seen here is a strange attraction to the criminal element in RC, kind of like lonely women that write to convicts to later go on to marry them. IMO

Now, seriously, looking at your offensive post aimed at posters who seek the truth and refuse to rewrite the history of the biological parents and the COURT RECORDS as well as their OWN STATEMENTS ON THE RECORD whether it's in a court transcript, GERALDO RIVERA transcript, or a 911 call....

Just how would you like the finger pointed back at you in the manner you not so graciously point yours?

Say a poster were to come along and point all four fingers back at your one pointing finger and allege all of you defending Crystal and trying to prop her up as Mother of the YEAR are really women who shirked your duties as mothers, left your children, went on to create another family and only spent the minimum amount of time with your children and didn't really want custody of them to start with much less to support them? Suppose another finger chimed in and accused you of doing cocaine? Then what if the third finger came along and found you guilty of compromising a child for your own gain (see my signature line)?

I just think it's extremely unfair of you to make those kind of personal attacks when no posters have done that to you from what I've seen so far. JMO tho. Oh, and I was just asking if you would like that after you made your personal attack as I don't have experience with inmates or their correspondence. :confused:

Are you implying you know women here who seek a dating service thru the jail? Really, I am confused and don't have the knowledge you speak of on the lonely women after inmates. AGAIN, JMO. :blushing: 4u

Texas48

04-11-2009, 04:52 PM

She sure did get tossed out at a very young age, Mimi and it is disturbing that sex, drugs and alcohol was her way of dealing with her problems with Ron.

I feel for her on that level but if she's hiding things about Haleigh, for whatever reason, my sympathy ends there.You and Mimi are right as far as I'm concerned. This girl/child/teen/girlfriend/teenbride/stepmother was and is very young. I Was not impressed by Misty's mom when I saw and heard her the day at the courthouse and together with that and knowing how long Misty has been out of her house w/no adult supervision...enough said. I am aware there are some kids that can't be controlled and this very well could be the case between Misty and her parents..but..There is a time when parents say..I am the Mother and you are the child..Oh..forgot to add..mothers need to say this with a 2/4 in there hand. Now thats what you call a switch..lol..I hope ALL enjoys Easter in their own way.

Texas48

04-11-2009, 05:05 PM

Tiffany, this time I had to bold your post. I so agree, and if had been one dog that hit, personally I would have thought that dog made a mistake. I do not see 3 dogs making the same mistake though.

I also don't know why they didn't lay everything on the ground and let the dogs do another search. Then if the dogs hit, on anything or inside the dumpster, send it to the lab, and I don't care if it didn't seem to be connected to the case, they should have sent it to the lab.

Now, if they did this and I don't know it, then I would feel bad for saying that. I don't think they did though, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.Hello my friend apple..You are so right about the dogs/dumpster incident...imo LE should have done that search early on...even TN stated she begged time and time again to check the dumpsters w/no results...but..that did not happend and thats the end of that..

Texas48

04-11-2009, 05:17 PM

In light of the Sandra Cantu case and what has transpired in the last 24 hrs or so, MAYBE just MAYBE LE might take a closer look at those closer to Haleigh aside from family members i.e. friends parents, teachers, etc.)

I was stunned to learn that a woman had been arrested in the murder of Sandra Cantu because I had expected it to be a male sex offender. I'm sure LE has already interviewed people Haleigh knew but maybe they will do that again. Did any of the friends of the adults have a key to the home in case they got locked out? My aunt and mother have a key to my house for that reason.

It's just a thought since all other leads seem to have gone nowhere.Maybe..just maybe LE will look at this case with different eyes and maybe change up whatever they are doing as far as an investigation goes cause what they have been doing doesn't prove to be working..Ya think LE has a *plan B* ??? As for little Sandra..more than sad. It goes to prove EVIL has NO FACE..

Texas48

04-11-2009, 05:20 PM

My bold, but I think you forgot Crystal. Also, who is Melissa, I am lost?Thanks for posting about "Crystal" ..Since no one has been rulled out or in I think it would safe to post Crystal's name as well to Pag Boi's post.

cat3

04-11-2009, 05:21 PM

Huh...guess I struck a nerve

I think you struck a nerve with several posters on this board.Shouldn't we ALL be free to express our opinions on ALL the players in this case,without being told that we are expressing hatred or that we are attracted to a criminal element? IMO

cat3

04-11-2009, 05:30 PM

never did I say anything about expressing hatred and never used any names in the post....just a generalization.....but, if it applies......IMO

It doesn't apply in my case.I just found it offensive that you tried to label posters for expressing an opinion.IMO

Mimi428

04-11-2009, 05:39 PM

My take on family members stepping between Ron and Geraldo was that they were upset on Ron's behalf and wanted Geraldo to leave.
Ron,in my opinion showed great restraint with Geraldo.Not many people would take kindly to allegations of being a narc.Geraldo was looking for a reaction from Ron,and was probably sorry he didn't get one.No doubt Geraldo is still stewing about being told not to come back,or charges of trespassing would be filed against him.IMO

I certainly can see how the family members would be upset. Upset on Ron's behalf, upset for themselves, upset about everything. But when it got to the point where they chose to step in & get between them - well, that's the point where it reminded me how typical that kind of behavior is for the people who are friends & family of someone who is prone to physical violence.

They (friends & fam) don't want to have to bail them out of jail, they don't want to have to clean up after them & the mess they make, they don't want to see things get worse than they already are, etc., etc. So they run interference for them.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion that their motives were different, but people in LE or in corrections, social workers, DCF workers, health care personnel & others can attest how often it is that a person with an undeniable record of violence has friends & family members who have pretty much turned themselves inside out trying to calm down the violent person, trying to 'head him off at the pass', so to speak. And it looks pretty much the same as what we saw in the Geraldo/Ron exchange.

JMO

Texas48

04-11-2009, 05:46 PM

Why the hostility?

What I said was I doubt if a caseworker will be on the show and I don't know what GR and Art will talk about tonight.

How is that "biased?"

You, on the other hand have taken the opportunity to not only attack me but display your hatred of Crystal, Art and whoever else doesn't agree with you.

I don't come here to argue. I come here to rationally discuss what happened to Haleigh.

Go find someone else to dump on. I don't believe I have ever seen a post so well thought out and written. Some posters just don't want to *play* if everyone doesn't agree with them..What a shame.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 05:54 PM

It doesn't apply in my case.I just found it offensive that you tried to label posters for expressing an opinion.IMO

Unfortunately, not much will change in that arena Cat. I have no trouble at all stating that these children deserved better. Up until the gross misreporting and rehabbing of character, I didn't see any reason for anyone to be attacked. But now it seems like if you remind a poster about anything concerning the bio-mom that is actually on record and easy to locate, it's met with some wild eyed accusations about the bio-dad and there seems to be nothing other than Cobra and his ilk to substantiate it. I don't find him credible and notice much editing with Art and his BFF's as they try to portray someone different from what we know in the transcripts between the courts and Geraldo's show IMO.

I don't think we have to go there. I didn't say that women were calling in false leads, FGS, the SHERIFF SAID IT...I believe he referred to angry ex's. JMO tho.

Just get down to business, and someone please provide an accurate tip, not a dream, not a fantasy and hate speak to bringing Haleigh home. :wub: She should be coloring EASTER EGGS like she was last year at this time IMO. :loveeyes:

cat3

04-11-2009, 05:59 PM

I certainly can see how the family members would be upset. Upset on Ron's behalf, upset for themselves, upset about everything. But when it got to the point where they chose to step in & get between them - well, that's the point where it reminded me how typical that kind of behavior is for the people who are friends & family of someone who is prone to physical violence.

They (friends & fam) don't want to have to bail them out of jail, they don't want to have to clean up after them & the mess they make, they don't want to see things get worse than they already are, etc., etc. So they run interference for them.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion that their motives were different, but people in LE or in corrections, social workers, DCF workers, health care personnel & others can attest how often it is that a person with an undeniable record of violence has friends & family members who have pretty much turned themselves inside out trying to calm down the violent person, trying to 'head him off at the pass', so to speak. And it looks pretty much the same as what we saw in the Geraldo/Ron exchange.

JMO

I agree.I have seen family and friends step between two people that are getting ready to come to blows.From what I saw it seemed as though the family in this situation just wanted to be rid of Geraldo,so he didn't cause even more pain at what must have been an already painful time for the family.I think we can admit that Geraldo was out of line going after RC and his family so soon after Haleigh went missing.I would feel the same if Geraldo had went after Crystal or her family.No doubt Geraldo wanted to confront Ron and provoke a reaction.In my opinion Ron handled himself well and kept control of any anger he may have felt.IMO

cat3

04-11-2009, 06:14 PM

Unfortunately, not much will change in that arena Cat. I have no trouble at all stating that these children deserved better. Up until the gross misreporting and rehabbing of character, I didn't see any reason for anyone to be attacked. But now it seems like if you remind a poster about anything concerning the bio-mom that is actually on record and easy to locate, it's met with some wild eyed accusations about the bio-dad and there seems to be nothing other than Cobra and his ilk to substantiate it. I don't find him credible and notice much editing with Art and his BFF's as they try to portray someone different from what we know in the transcripts between the courts and Geraldo's show IMO.

I don't think we have to go there. I didn't say that women were calling in false leads, FGS, the SHERIFF SAID IT...I believe he referred to angry ex's. JMO tho.

Just get down to business, and someone please provide an accurate tip, not a dream, not a fantasy and hate speak to bringing Haleigh home. :wub: She should be coloring EASTER EGGS like she was last year at this time IMO. :loveeyes:

I'm just waiting like everyone else to get some details from LE.We do not have enough information to assign guilt to anyone yet.We need credible sources,and Cobra,Art and Geraldo can't be trusted to be fair.They have their own agenda.IMO

Texas48

04-11-2009, 07:03 PM

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 08:19 PM

I'm just waiting like everyone else to get some details from LE.We do not have enough information to assign guilt to anyone yet.We need credible sources,and Cobra,Art and Geraldo can't be trusted to be fair.They have their own agenda.IMO

ITA, and hope that soon the Sheriff will perhaps divulge just a bit more if he has anything that might jog someone's memory about missing Haleigh Cummings.

What a true miracle it would be if Haleigh were returned tomorrow even if it's just as she disappeared without a clue, but SAFE and UNHARMED IMO. :thumbsup:

For this time I'm going to pray for it in a big way as I know all of the family is just sick over this missing child IMO. :wub:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 08:24 PM

Hi Tex. Yes it is a shame. I thought we were all individuals with our own opinions. Wonder when this change came about where we can't think differently, on our own? Cuz someone forgot to tell me. But thats ok, cuz I'm not going to go along with someones opinion just for the sake of doing so.

I can understand and respect that too Bully. There are so many possibilities with this case and it seems to perplex LE and some of the finest legal minds too with regard to HOW HALEIGH CUMMINGS became a member of the MISSING CHILDREN in the USA, nevertheless she has become a missing child and people have to continue to search for her IMO. :crying: I can't believe LE is just giving up, but it appears they might be caught up in the unknown without a plan to proceed with searching. This is one reason I wish they would come out and say just a bit more if they have important info that's leading them to stop searching. JMO and nothing more. :crying:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2009, 08:28 PM

Are they supposed to be on GR tonight? Fox, 10 PM EST? or is it 9 PM?

Pia, I think on the east coast Geraldo airs at 10PM. While I'm not sure what he and Art have going regarding the Cummings case, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with giving LE any new and/or credible leads since the media has pretty much been silent other than chronology articles IMO. :sad:

baywench

04-11-2009, 08:37 PM

baywench

04-11-2009, 08:59 PM

The last known person to see her was Misty....I don't believe that Misty did anything to her so I don't think she was the very last person to actually see her.

And the beat goes on. Back to lurking until there is news, much as I would love to debate this point for the 100th time. jmo

forensicfan

04-11-2009, 10:37 PM

Maybe..just maybe LE will look at this case with different eyes and maybe change up whatever they are doing as far as an investigation goes cause what they have been doing doesn't prove to be working..Ya think LE has a *plan B* ??? As for little Sandra..more than sad. It goes to prove EVIL has NO FACE..

I'm not sure what you mean but obviously whatever they've done thus far has not produced a lead in this child's disappearance.

I refuse still and will continue to refuse to point the finger at any of the family members until I hear FACTS from LE that make me think they are guilty of her disappearance. Until then, my opinion is that it was a stranger that took her and it will remain that way until I feel otherwise.

crwofter1

04-12-2009, 01:16 AM

Nothing apple, absolutely nothing. Not a blurb, not a mention, not a picture of little Haleigh. And as far as my dvr shows, Geraldo is NOT on tomorrow night, so he skipped right on by Haleigh's story. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. More like disgusted. You'd think Art would update his site and at least post what Geraldo FAILED to report, but no such luck.

jmo
Hi viking
no mention of Little Haleigh that I'm aware of. He's (GERALDO) is getting as bad as N.Disgrace. IMO!!:cursing: I got lost for a couple of days, I just found you guys. Glad to be back. I'm caught up in the Sandra case. So happy for the arrest, now it's time for something in the Haleigh case. SO TIRED OF NOTHING HAPPENING:thumbdown:

crwofter1

04-12-2009, 01:23 AM

Good night everyone
Happy Easter
PRAYING FOR LITTLE HALEIGH ALWAYS!!:wub:

titanfan217

04-12-2009, 01:39 AM

Just checked Harris' site and he had received word that the segment had been canceled in favor of Sandra and the also the pirates.

Didn't sound as if it was going to be rescheduled.

BitterSweet

04-12-2009, 03:36 AM

Thinking of Haleigh.
Happy Easter, sweet girl.

BitterSweet

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:03 AM

LOL, speaking of bully, mine wants to play awhile.
lol..lol..gonna let this slide right on by..lol..no comment needed.lol

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:14 AM

Where are Ron and Misty living now? This case is so frustrating, I can't stand the fighting endlessly over who is bashing who. There is enough bad behavior in this family to keep the media happy forever but it does no good. The last person to see her alive was Misty....the LAST person to see her alive was Misty. I am losing faith that LE is just waiting until they have a sure case to charge her. You would think after the Madeliene Mccann case I would learn my lesson about trusting LE to know they are doing. jmo
Wench..lol....I believe..or the last I head Ron..Misty and Jr. were living at GGM's house which if this is correct I think is great. It has always been my belief that GMs and GGMs all over the world would shower their grandchildren with nothing but pure LOVE so this is most likely the best place fo Jr. at this time is his life and as well..helping them in their daily life to *survive* this horrific time. I can only hope that ALL the family of Jr. can come together in a time of *peace*. That is what would be best for Jr. and for them. Maybe this will be the day.

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:38 AM

I'm not sure what you mean but obviously whatever they've done thus far has not produced a lead in this child's disappearance.

I refuse still and will continue to refuse to point the finger at any of the family members until I hear FACTS from LE that make me think they are guilty of her disappearance. Until then, my opinion is that it was a stranger that took her and it will remain that way until I feel otherwise.Maybe it is time for LE to take a *second* look..Maybe call in other Det. from joining town w/more experience..That is NOT unusal for small PDs to do that. Maybe release *alittle* info that they do have to media/public. Gosh darn..the public(us) does not even know what the last clothes Haleigh actually was wearing. They say they can't get the *right* answers from Misty..OK..they have a timeline from when GGM said she saw her and then you have the 911 call..so..work w/that. DO SOMETHING..ANYTHING..DIG and then DIG deeper...Oh my..this is turning into one of my rants and didn't want to go there..so...will leave it as I hope and pray LE gets a break that leads to little Haleigh.

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:50 AM

Hi viking
no mention of Little Haleigh that I'm aware of. He's (GERALDO) is getting as bad as N.Disgrace. IMO!!:cursing: I got lost for a couple of days, I just found you guys. Glad to be back. I'm caught up in the Sandra case. So happy for the arrest, now it's time for something in the Haleigh case. SO TIRED OF NOTHING HAPPENING:thumbdown:Hi there crwofter..am so glad you found your way back..have missed ya on the boards and your post..I agree..With GR we never know what he will be showning and with NG..we *know* what will be showing. and JVM is obssessed w/OctoMom. anyway..good to have you back and hope you and family have a great Easter.

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:51 AM

Wishing ALL on the boards a very good Easter..

FrankieBones1

04-12-2009, 08:59 AM

ITA forensics. I too will stick with an abductor until proven otherwise.

I agree with you both and I have a terrible feeling that this make take forever to solve.

TxLady2

04-12-2009, 01:59 PM

Reaching here because Haleigh's name and face seems to have fallen off the face of the earth....

What if LE did find something in that dumpster?
We know they can/will distort the truth when necessary...
How long do forensic tests take? 4-6 weeks?
How long has it been? :mellow:

In order to identify a body? Three or four days, tops. Maybe less.
If not a body found, but maybe blood or other body fluids, then forensics might take a little longer. BUT I cannot see LE not announcing to the public at least that something was found. I keep seeing that presser right after the dumpster search when Crystal was so emotional and Ron was as well, but not breaking down, just... spaced out, almost. And since then, LE has not allowed any searches... giving the excuse that the woods are dangerous places. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

5boxersmom

04-12-2009, 03:38 PM

Thinking of Haleigh today. :rose:

Texas48

04-12-2009, 05:44 PM

ITA Texas, you are exactly right. I feel like ranting right along with you. Could LE be that baffled that they don't even know what Haleigh was wearing when she disappeared? And some say that FBI were/are there, so how could the likes of Ron or Misty throw LE so far off that they have no clue? If LE has nothing, then they should release what they do have so that the public can help. I have a deep feeling that Haleigh's case is going to go cold. Even these threads about her are dying off, how much longer can we rehash over and over the same things? Geraldo blowing off Haleigh's story last night was nothing short of disgusting. He could have put a measley 5 minutes to the side for her, but nope, talking about the two teenage girls who went off to Mexico to party, then were abducted, then found was way more important than a 5 year old girl who is STILL missing.:cursing:

Apologies for the rant. Hope Sheriff Hardy and le are enjoying their easter dinners while Haleigh is still missing.:sad:

jmoNothing better than to *rant together* lol..makes me feel better and you did all the ranting. How good is that? Many many prayers today for ALL missing and murdered children.

cat3

04-12-2009, 06:05 PM

MoonFlwr

04-12-2009, 08:15 PM

Happy Easter everyone,

No news on Haleigh today.I wonder if an email campaign would help put any pressure on LE? Maybe contact the mayor? I found a website for the mayor and it has an email option.IMO

Hi cat

Care to share that with me/us? I think it'd be good to email SOMEONE about not letting this case slip away into obscurity!

(I am wondering, now, if Ron was advised to do something like get married, in order to stir up media attention for Haleigh? It seems you have to vie for attention about your missing child even! Against more sensationalistic stories! How sad.)

Texas48

04-12-2009, 08:19 PM

Happy Easter viking!

Yes, you are right...they aren't pirates, they are fisherman and thugs and now they're dead fisherman and thugs and the Captain is ok.

When I say I understand, I mean I understand the media. That doesn't mean I agree because I don't. I think Haleigh and those that are missing but not mentioned in the media are just as important as those who remain in the spotlight. I think it's shameful that so many have fallen under the radar, but it is what it is.There are *many* that have fallen through the cracks..As much as I rant about LE/media/the shows...what is for them to report? I have posted before that the marrige/trip to NY kept this case upfront for a week or so...KP and Cobra coming on scene helped some...WBGreg...Crystal having a seizure and MVA added alittle. That about wraps up on news that kept little Haleigh in the spotlight and none of that had anything to do w/finding Haleigh. Media can only go over this fo so long..stretching it out and then what? The public wants news about many subjects and that is the media's job to give it to them. I'm certain the Captured Captain's wife/children/family wanted as much info as the media could provide. I suppose I can understand just as Tiffany posted. Lets all hope for a break in Haleigh's favor.

cat3

04-12-2009, 08:33 PM

Hi cat

Care to share that with me/us? I think it'd be good to email SOMEONE about not letting this case slip away into obscurity!

(I am wondering, now, if Ron was advised to do something like get married, in order to stir up media attention for Haleigh? It seems you have to vie for attention about your missing child even! Against more sensationalistic stories! How sad.)

Hi MoonFlwr
The only one that I could find for mayor is for Palatka.I'm not sure if that covers Putnam County and Satsuma.I thought contacting the mayor might be the way to go as the mayor should be over LE,or at least that's how it is in my city.IMO

http://www.co.putnam.fl.us/palatka/Mayor%20Karl%20Flagg.htm

Also found some #'s for LE

http://www.pcso.us/phone-directory

cat3

04-12-2009, 08:40 PM

Well, I have talked to some people and we think a HUGE e-mail campaign would be GREAT!

We want to send the e-mails all in ONE DAY.

I think we will start discussing it tomorrow and try to find the best way to do this and also, to see how MANY people we can get to do this. Of course, the more people we can get the better.

I hope we can get this going next week.

I will post something or someone will tomorrow.

I feel we NEED to let Satsuma know we are watching and we want Justice for Haleigh.

In the e-mails, I have discussed with a few people, the family's lives will be LEFT OUT. I hope we can all agree on that.

Sounds like a good idea,apple.I thought also if we could get enough people it would be great to bombard them with emails in one day.
Are you thinking media,or LE for the emails.Either way it would be something.IMO

teresa

04-12-2009, 08:56 PM

I'm in on a mass email campaign!

I can't decide who would be most effective. In some ways, I think it is the media. If Haleigh had been taken from a city with major media presence, they would be hounding LE constantly for updates. That isn't happening in Satsuma and they have no one to put pressure on them.

There also is no media there who has good sources in LE to get leaks from. Nothing seems to be happening and I'll do whatever you all decide is best to get Haleigh's name out there.

grammie/va

04-12-2009, 09:19 PM

Count me in on the emails to the mayor or whom ever. Not sure we should bother LE but we need to let them know we stand for justice for Haleigh and hopefully everyone will leave the bashing and family choosing of sides alone for this one day. We all can be united for the Haleigh justice cause.

Ice Cycle

04-12-2009, 09:28 PM

Hello and I hope everyone has had a Happy Easter.
I check in here ofter in hopes that this child has been found.
It does seem that after the first couple of days her parents issues took persistent and LE just seemed to back off. You would thought they would of gave this more attention after seeing how juvenile the parents were acting. I don't see how any parent could rest not knowing if she was alive and in the hands of some psycho or not.
They need to do something and not let her just fade away.

titanfan217

04-12-2009, 09:43 PM

All I can say to this post is I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT! I would be happy to eat my own words.

I would think they would put a rush on it since it has to do with a missing child, but I can't remember the date of the dumpster search.

I did forget to say in this post and other's about the dumpster, I hope Haleigh is alive! After all of this time though, it is hard to think that, so that is one reason the dumpster search bothers me. What I am trying to say is OF COURSE, I would prefer Haleigh to be alive instead of in the dumpster at some time. Gosh, that was even hard to type.

Rush & government are pretty much foreign to each other.

MoonFlwr

04-12-2009, 10:24 PM

If we're going for the mass email movement...please let us know who and when.

Thanks :)

:rose: for Haleigh

:rose: for Jr.

ttcRider

04-12-2009, 10:35 PM

Happy Easter to all of you. I'm glad you can understand Tiffany, because I can't. By the way, I think calling those people "pirates" is a glorified term when referring to nothing short of terrorists, kwim?

While I am thrilled they found Haleigh's killer and sad about what happened to poor little Sandra, a slight blurb on Haleigh would have been beneficial. Day in and day out Haliegh gets pushed to the side, and neither she nor her perp have been found. Does this all boil down to le not doing their job? Hopefully someone will start putting some pressure on someone down there to get the ball rolling again because in my opinion it is disgusting how they handled Haleigh's case and continue to do so.

jmo

OMG, i just got here. who and where!!??

ttcRider

04-12-2009, 10:49 PM

Ok, I skimmed all the posts... I am chalking that up to a typo?? :sad:

Does everyone have me on iggy?? ;)

bookie

04-12-2009, 11:02 PM

Ok, I skimmed all the posts... I am chalking that up to a typo?? :sad:

Does everyone have me on iggy?? ;)

I don't. I think that post should have read Sandra's killer, not Haleigh's.

cat3

04-12-2009, 11:37 PM

Well, I had been thinking about doing this for about a week, but I was too embarrassed to bring it up. After, I finially got my nerve up, so far a lot of people have been up for it.

Honestly, I don't care how " we " do it, as long as " we" do it.

So, from my understanding, we will discuss it starting tomorrow when the board picks up.

I don't know if there is a way to set a poll up on here or not. I guess, we should all just think, which way would the best way be? LE, newspaper, TV stations, etc.

I sure hope we can all do this.

I hope we can all be a team for one full day and whoever everyone decides we need to e-mail, we can all do it the same day.

I know I will NOT be writing my own e-mail. I am horrible at writing, so I think I will have my son write what I want to say.

I made this very long, sorry - I am basically saying whatever the majority thinks is the best route to take. I personaly am open to any options.

I also hope to do it next week ( all the e-mails), I am afraid if we do not do something soon, it will be too late.

I'm glad that you thought about it.I actually didn't think about it until 51 Viking mentioned putting pressue on LE.Strength in numbers.I'm open for whatever or whoever we decide to contact.For people that have cell phones,or don't mind long distance calls, we could also make some calls,but maybe we should start with emails first.I think there is a poll option on this board,but I have never used it.We can do more tomorrow when more people are on board.IMO

Ice Cycle

04-13-2009, 12:51 AM

That sounds great, yes I would LOVE to leave the family out of this.

I think the town of Satsuma and LE, need to know that people all over the USA, etc. is watching and wanting justice for Haleigh.

Yes I also agree the family should not be involved. I do think it might be a good idea to also send it to some of the media's, not that I am that much on them but they do have a way of getting things rolling.

Politigal

04-13-2009, 02:00 AM

Pat

04-13-2009, 08:00 AM

IMO, to assume Satsum LE haven't been proactive enough because they haven't released every bit of evidence or aren't keeping Haleigh in the news is unreasonable.

We hear about cold cases solved many years later and LE always holds back something from the public. It could be there is evidence linking a specific person to Haleigh's abduction, but not enough to make an arrest. Or it could be there isn't evidence of any specific person. We don't know because LE isn't telling us. "We" aren't entitled to know every detail of an ongoing police investigation.

There are two cases discussed regularly on InSessions that would be considered "old"...one is that of District Attorney Ray Gricar who just seems to have disappeared into thin air, and the other is the horrific murder of Michelle Fisher Young. Both cases have long been out of the media spotlight, especially nationally, but that doesn't mean LE has moved on and they are forgotten.

In poor little Haleigh's case, there is nothing to report in the media regarding her disappearance. I'm sure there is plenty that could be reported about the on-going battle regarding Crystal, Ron and all those allegations, but it looks to me like there is a good possibility someone has been silenced by lawyers. Except for a few posters on message boards, the general public isn't interested in the personal battles being carried out over the airwaves. The fact Geraldo dropped his interview with Art Harris in favor of coverage of other news grabbing the headlines is proof of that. The sad thing is, that coverage wasn't ever going to be about Haleigh anyway.

I can only hope Haleigh is recovered sooner rather than later so this family can have some closure.

CANDYKISSES

04-13-2009, 08:45 AM

I was thinking alot about the reported inconsistencies in Misty's statements to police about the timeline for that evening...and the fact that police apparently haven't found any evidence actually linking Misty to Haleigh's disappearance or she would have been arrested...IMO.

What I think is most likely now...is that police have a specific suspect in mind...and this person has a span of time unaccounted for....but it doesn't fit into Misty's timeline for that night.

I think that's why they're so desperate for Misty to tell what really happened that night....probably that she passed out before the kids did...or something like that.

Just a possible theory....

Morning PG, I have yet to miss a post of yours on this case and find many of them thought provoking and quite possible. Thanks for your input.

This could very well be the case and they certainly can't spoon feed Misty a new time line IMO. She must come to that reality if it's something like her passing out and the kids still being awake or if she left the house. That said, I believe LE would have been able to cut through the BS and find out what Misty was really doing along with obtaining some credible witnesses. That keeps me thinking that just maybe Misty was there all night. JMO but I am still praying for a miracle.

:wub:Come home Haleigh Cummings!