View Full Version : Anna Nichole Smith's death re-examined
Tokyo Rose
04-10-2009, 08:43 AM
Let's not forget Anna, Daniel, and Dannylyn this Easter.
:rose::rose::rose:
Hoping Florida will come to the right conclusion and charge Howard for Anna's untimely death.
For Gabriel
04-10-2009, 09:14 AM
Let's not forget Anna, Daniel, and Dannylyn this Easter.
:rose::rose::rose:
Hoping Florida will come to the right conclusion and charge Howard for Anna's untimely death.
Guess DL will have a egg hunt or two to attend! Such fun! Thanks for opening another thread for the holiday, TR!
With such heartfelt thoughts one would think Dannielynn's name could be spelled correctly. MO
Tokyo Rose
04-10-2009, 10:18 AM
With such heartfelt thoughts one would think Dannielynn's name could be spelled correctly. MO
Thanks YoYo,
Happy hard boiled eggs to you too.:wink:
Tokyo Rose
04-11-2009, 12:11 PM
I wonder if Howard is going to enjoy Easter Sunday watching Dannylyn hunt eggs with Larry and Virgie?:biggrin:
shiloh2000
04-11-2009, 12:24 PM
I wonder if Howard is going to enjoy Easter Sunday watching Dannylyn hunt eggs with Larry and Virgie?:biggrin:
What? Virgie is now in Dannielynn's life? Boy have I missed out on alot.
Katt2
04-11-2009, 12:32 PM
What? Virgie is now in Dannielynn's life? Boy have I missed out on alot.
You haven't missed anything! Virgie is not in Dannielynn's life.
Tokyo Rose
04-11-2009, 03:24 PM
We don't know for sure if VA is seeing the baby. It could be she very well is. It is just something I believe they would all keep very quiet.
jmo
Tokyo Rose
04-11-2009, 03:34 PM
It's a sure bet Howard couldn't say anything about VA seeing the baby. He never really could, but now that he has been arrested and charged, he would get no where with his demands.
I'll never forget the arrogance of Howard saying he would not stand in the way of giving the baby to Larry as long as VA wouldn't get to see her.
He was making demands of the baby's bio father and bio grandmother when he wasn't even related to the child. This was after he kept the baby from her father all that time. If it wasn't for DNA, he would still be clutching onto the baby he knew wasn't his.
JMO
Tokyo Rose
04-12-2009, 08:04 AM
Here's hoping next week will bring some good news from Florida. Maybe someday we will get some good news from the Bahamas too.
I didn't see any pigs fly by my window yesterday so I guess VA didn't have that Easter visit with Dannielynn, huh? MO
Here's hoping next week will bring some good news from Florida. Maybe someday we will get some good news from the Bahamas too.
Looking forward to hearing that Florida and the Bahamas have no action planned since they have already determined the cause of both Anna's and Daniel's death.
You have a good day now, 'ya hear.................
Tokyo Rose
04-12-2009, 08:11 AM
YoYo, you always bring a smile to my face.
Today is Easter, so keep watching for your flying pigs.:wink:
redhead56
04-12-2009, 12:26 PM
Going back over previous news links I had provided:
Dr. E "assists" Perper in explaining the drug combinations in ANS' system. Perper actually states there was 2 to 3 TABLESPOONS in ANS' system when NORMAL dosage was between 1 -2 TEASPOONS. And, Dr. E stated ANS had a HIGH TOLERANCE.
Is it just me or is this a GLARING quantity difference? And is it just me or is it ludicrous to simply take one's "word" that ANS had a "high tolerance?" Where were the medical records and notes to show this "build up tolerance" history on the patient?
I have said it before however when I have to go once a month to the doctor for blood pressure tests (and I have no known heart problems, blood pressure problems, etc), weight, and asked a bunch of questions just for them to "monitor" the anti depressant they have given me AND it can only be renewed once every three months direct from the doctor (no automatic refill after 3 months) and the pharmacy only provides one month of the prescription at a time,............................
how does one give the type of drug/s to ANS without those same types of checkups, monitoring, notes in a file, etc?
Looking forward to a trial to learn what type/s of monitoring were done with her, especially in light of the various combinations being proferred at the SAME TIME!
redhead56
04-12-2009, 12:37 PM
Here's another instance of Dr. E stating "ANS had a high tolerance"...
"snip"
Many respected medical journals describe the safety of taking methadone during pregnancy. But the other drugs Eroshevich ordered surprised Kapoor, friends say, especially since he had never heard her name until that day in September.
"Stern told him Eroshevich was a longtime friend," a source said. "He said that they hadn't given Anna anything for pain after her C-section. And Eroshevich said she would be with Anna Nicole 24/7 and that she would administer the drugs herself."
Kapoor responded that he would not send them, and that he was particularly concerned about the dose of Dalmane, which was 12 times the limit. (bolding mine)
"Eroshevich told him Anna Nicole was really tolerant of Dalmane," a source said
(bolding mine) "
from the link previously provided: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513009,00.html
12 times the amount? Is anyone else picking up on these extreme quantities? Warnings, dangerous, toxic, fatal, etc and Dr. E's attorney states at the news conference after the postponed arraignment that Dr. E chose to "help" her patient?
:crying:
For Gabriel
04-12-2009, 05:22 PM
With such heartfelt thoughts one would think Dannielynn's name could be spelled correctly. MO
Did I spell it incorrectly? DL is shortened, course you must have known that....
For Gabriel
04-12-2009, 05:24 PM
And that's a shame. It's ok for that skanky drug user Sandy Serrano to be around DL, but not even a visit to her grandmother? That Birkhead is a loser. Is he still going to use DL for a reality show? Blech :thumbdown:
Wasn't that in the works at one time? Lord knows that's the last thing that lil girl needs!
Tokyo Rose
04-12-2009, 05:53 PM
No, it is not just you, Redhead.
Lots of people have been debating about this for 2 years now. I want to know what patient records she showed Perper when the indictment shows she was not even a patient. False paperwork in a death investigation? uh oh And Perper is in cya mode, he needs to retire or be fired, he obviously is too gullible to continue in that position.
I'm still incensed over Perper's ruling!! I can remember exactly what I was doing when I caught that press conference on TV. I remember just staring at his head. It took me an hour to get my chin up off the floor.
To hear him say on Geraldo recently, shortly after E was arrested, he relied on her to reach his determination!! It's like a doctor's brotherhood. Whatever one says the other agrees. It makes me sick. E had a reason to sway his decision. I think the man is senile. I actually think he was shocked he was jumped all over by everyone on that show.
Shortly after that, Florida re opens the case. I wonder if it has dawned on Perper how really stupid he looks.
The medications that killed Anna were in Howard's name and should not have been in Anna at all. How in the world that could be ruled accidental, I'll never know.
I also remember Perper being pizzed Kapoor refused to answer his calls. Who could blame Kapoor for trying to stay out of it. Kapoor knew that wasn't accidental. He had warned them this could happen.
I hope we all get to see Perper testifying at the trials in CA and FL, should they occur. That should be priceless!!
JMO
OctaviaSwirl
04-12-2009, 06:45 PM
I wonder if Howard is going to enjoy Easter Sunday watching Dannylyn hunt eggs with Larry and Virgie?:biggrin:
From what I have heard Virgie has not seen the child since she has been back in the states. Has their been further developments? And if so, where can we read about this reconciliation?
Tokyo Rose
04-12-2009, 07:18 PM
From what I have heard Virgie has not seen the child since she has been back in the states. Has their been further developments? And if so, where can we read about this reconciliation?
The thing is we really don't know. Where have you heard VA has not seen the baby since she has been back in the states?
Now that Howard is in deep do do, he really has no right to his demands of Larry not to let VA see her own grandchild. I think Larry is distancing himself from Howard. Also, it is possible both Larry and VA will end up testifying at Howard's trial. It seems Larry and VA may be drawn back together again because of the circumstances. Anna was the mother of Larry's child, and I don't believe he will care for the amount of drugs Howard got for her.
I never figured VA would never see her grandchild, did you? I believe she already has, and if it was agreed to, there wouldn't be anything to see as far as further developments go. The media has given up following them around now.
JMO
Tokyo Rose
04-12-2009, 07:27 PM
I have no doubt that sometime in the future, Larry and VA will move Anna and Daniel back to Texas where they belong.
JMO
I have no doubt that sometime in the future, Larry and VA will move Anna and Daniel back to Texas where they belong.
JMO
Yes, that will happen right after pigs fly and hell freezes over. MO
DesertWalker
04-13-2009, 03:22 AM
I didn't see any pigs fly by my window yesterday so I guess VA didn't have that Easter visit with Dannielynn, huh? MO
Darn ,,, you missed the flying Easter pigs? :thumbsup:
Tokyo Rose
04-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Does anyone really think DL should be kept from her mother and brother's side of the family? She would grow up to resent her father for that IMO.
It's DL's right to separate fact from fiction when it comes to her family on both sides.
Let's not hope for DL to be put in a position to have to guess and search for the truth.
I don't believe Howard should ever see that baby again. Just saying..........
JMO
Darn ,,, you missed the flying Easter pigs? :thumbsup:
You didn't see those pigs either, did you? :)
I think Dannielynn should spend as much time with her grandmother as her mother and Daniel did in the last ten + years of their lives. MO
Tokyo Rose
04-13-2009, 08:39 AM
You didn't see those pigs either, did you? :)
I think Dannielynn should spend as much time with her grandmother as her mother and Daniel did in the last ten + years of their lives. MO
If VA wouldn't have been so against Anna's drug use and wouldn't tolerate it, or the people Anna hung around with, like Howard, Anna would have spent much more time with her. I think Daniel knew that too. By the way, Daniel kept in touch with his grandmother as much as he could even with his mother not allowing it.
It turns out VA was right about Howard. Anna was next.
imo
Katt2
04-13-2009, 08:46 AM
If VA wouldn't have been so against Anna's drug use and wouldn't tolerate it, or the people Anna hung around with, like Howard, Anna would have spent much more time with her. I think Daniel knew that too. By the way, Daniel kept in touch with his grandmother as much as he could even with his mother not allowing it.
It turns out VA was right about Howard. Anna was next.
imo
Anna was going to be next with or without Howard.
If VA wouldn't have been so against Anna's drug use and wouldn't tolerate it, or the people Anna hung around with, like Howard, Anna would have spent much more time with her. I think Daniel knew that too. By the way, Daniel kept in touch with his grandmother as much as he could even with his mother not allowing it.
It turns out VA was right about Howard. Anna was next.
imo
VA is also the one who flew down with Splash and had her picture made at Daniel's grave ...... the same VA who did not fly down when Daniel died. Enough said. MO
Anna was going to be next with or without Howard.
Anna would probably have gone a lot sooner had it not been for Howard. MO
Here's another instance of Dr. E stating "ANS had a high tolerance"...
"snip"
Many respected medical journals describe the safety of taking methadone during pregnancy. But the other drugs Eroshevich ordered surprised Kapoor, friends say, especially since he had never heard her name until that day in September.
"Stern told him Eroshevich was a longtime friend," a source said. "He said that they hadn't given Anna anything for pain after her C-section. And Eroshevich said she would be with Anna Nicole 24/7 and that she would administer the drugs herself."
Kapoor responded that he would not send them, and that he was particularly concerned about the dose of Dalmane, which was 12 times the limit. (bolding mine)
"Eroshevich told him Anna Nicole was really tolerant of Dalmane," a source said
(bolding mine) "
from the link previously provided: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513009,00.html
12 times the amount? Is anyone else picking up on these extreme quantities? Warnings, dangerous, toxic, fatal, etc and Dr. E's attorney states at the news conference after the postponed arraignment that Dr. E chose to "help" her patient?
:crying:
Thanks for your links, redhead. I think the State of California has Stern, Eroshevitch and Kapoor dead to rights.
If they, the DEA and DOJ started an investigation immediately following the death of ANS, they have had ample time to pour over every document, prescription, public statement and medical record available.
What I am most interested in at this point will be how Kapoor's handling of Eroshevitch's drug requests affects the way he is handled by the State. Of the three, he is the one, IMO, who would most likely have rolled on Stern and Eroshevitch. He knows plenty and I wonder how much he's told the prosecutors.
Obviously Stern was aware Kapoor wouldn't cooperate with Eroshevitch, and was aware she was having trouble getting prescriptions filled.
This is going to be an interesting trial.
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