Sprocket's Updates [here only/leaves discussion flowing]

[Nic99]

Apologies:

By Sprocket:

1:39 pm: I'm inside the courtroom and I just got the times. They stopped at 12:12 pm and restarted at 1:07 pm

[Nic99]

Sprocket update:

1:41 pm: Answering a comment. Allan Parachini is the department head for the Public Information Office. That is the department that handles all liaison between the court and the public for all LA County Courts. He is in the courtroom with us now as the PIO officer to answer any questions. He's working on a laptop sitting at the big table on the defense side.

Nic

[Nic99]

Sprocket:

1:51 pm: CNN has a reporter sitting inside the courtroom, waiting on a verdict. I do not know if they will be live streaming or not. From what I understand, Beth was just here for the Howard K. Stern arraignment. She has not indicated to me that she will be covering the verdict watch for Spector. I don't think so since there already is a CNN reporter in the room.

Hope you don't mind me doing this?
Nic

[Nic99]

Sprocket:

1:56 pm: Answering a question. This jury only heard (in testimony) that Lana's thumbnail was broken. That's it. There was nothing presented like the last time, with that mini trial within a trial investigating.

The jury heard in closing arguments from Jackson that the piece of nail was never found at the crime scene by the criminalists. This was in response to Mr. Weinberg's point #14, that the nail was broken and that proved that Lana Clarkson was holding the weapon.

In my opinion, this was brilliant strategy by Jackson to argue this in closing.


Nic

[Nic99]

Glad I can help those of you who don't have access, etc. I'm in UK and its evening so can easily access at the moment.

Nic

Sprocket:

2:04 pm: Linda Deutsch enters 106.

[Nic99]

Sprocket:

2:04 pm: Linda Deutsch enters 106.

Alan Parachini and Linda Deutsch chat about various subjects. Other than their conversation, it's quite silent in 106. Linda and Sherri are reading books, Lindy, the CNN reporter is reading a magazine and there is another news/reporter person who has been in here before but I don't know his name.

[Nic99]

Sprocket:

2:11 pm: Answering a comment. Linda Deutsch is highly respected among her peers. She is a legend at the Associated Press.

2:12 pm: Answering a comment. The schedule. We were told on Monday it is on a day by day basis because at any time, the jury could come back with a verdict. So, there are no projected days/times off. We will be notified if there is any change.

Posted by Sprocket

[Ellie]

Hey Susan! Welcome aboard, happy to have you along!

To answer your questions below and give you my opinions...

1. No, none of us have any way of seeing any live coverage, not even feeds, other than our wonderful Sprocket who is attending the trail every day (and My2Cents was as well until a family member became ill--- thanks M2C for everything!). Stay tuned here, updates are almost as live as on Sprocket's page.

2. You're right... the wonder of the cyber-net. Any of us could really be anyone. :thumbup: Ha.

3. I agree with you as do many others here, I'm sure. The majority here do believe that Phil is guilty, and possibly of Murder 1, but the whole 'premeditation' thing would be tougher to prove than going for M2 or involuntary manslaughter. He killed her, no doubt, but how long did he think about it? That's where the issue lies, at least with me. A verdict of M2 is fine with me.

4. I don't think Phil was an addict who relapsed... I think his claim of 'hardly ever drinking' is a line of complete BS. I think Phil drinks. A lot. From what I've read about that night he was good and toasty when he talked Lana into going home with him--- if I remember correctly, she had to help him walk to his car. So I don't think he blacked out at all. Also, the fact that he was telling one of the police officers who went to the 'castle' that he "didn't mean to shoot her" and could "explain" tells me that Phil was at least aware of what was going on. Only later did he change his story about her committing suicide (anyone think maybe Shapiro suggested this scenario?), and again, in typical Phil fashion, he put her down and called her names the whole time (classy, sympathetic guy that he is you know).

Hope to get more of your input as the hours progress... but I *really* hope that the verdict comes in today.

The posts we were invited to review in the last thread did not appear to be the ones listed, so--???

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I've been using your verdict watch threads for several days to see if the verdict is in yet.

A couple of areas of interest:

1. Have I missed the CourtTV (I know, it's changed) coverage in, at least, the legal news segments?!?!? No crawl on the screen, no verdict watch icon-- it's so weird. Did they cover this AT ALL? (How did you all get your news?)

2. I could post that I'm Juror #42, but how would you know? (If #9 really is #9, apologies and thanks.)

3. I have wondered for a long time why they did not go for FELONY MURDER-- any death that occurs during the commission of another felony. IMO the first trial PROVED that Lana had been held against her will-- there's the felony right there, with the previous history of alcohol-related gunplay with other women showing the pattern, and the scene evidence showing she was trying to leave. IMO, that theory of the case would have been so much easier to prove than taking on the question of who fired the gun-- altho I agree with all the right-thinking people here :laugh: who say the prosecution DID prove that.

4. Regarding alcoholism/addiction, in case it hasn't been mentioned. When an addict relapses, they go right back to the point they were at when they stopped using, neurologically. That mean PS could very well have been in a blackout when he blurted out the confession to Souza, but later did not recall the events and really, really thinks he is telling the truth now to deny it all. Sad, but true-- and of course, he still has to go to jail. Alcohol + misogyny is a lethal combination and if you know you are likely to offend, you have the choice not to drink and start it all over again, so--- [prison door slamming]. Was surprised not to see addiction theory presented just like that, by expert witnesses, in the first trial-- another slam dunk missed.

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I'm not here much, but if you reply using the numbers I used above instead of quoting the whole thing over and over, I'll try to interact when I can. I did watch every minute of the first trial, BTW, and would have watched this one, too, if it had been available.

THANKS, and keep watching!!!

~Susan

[KathR]

Yes, this is the way I understood CW.

I believe Jester asked for clarification that we could post a link but I don't know if a response was given. :confused:

I feel today is the day. :thumbsup:

It looks like it's been worked out. NIC is quoting Sprocket in a seperate thread here. That's the best of both worlds. Those of us who can't get to Sprockets Blog can read it here, but the quotes are all in one place, out of the main stream.

[dref99]

It looks like it's been worked out. NIC is quoting Sprocket in a seperate thead here. That's the best of both worlds. Those of us who can't get to Sprockets Blog can read it here, but the quotes are all in one place, out of the mains stream.

I think you will find that thread was locked

[coinoutlet]

It looks like it's been worked out. NIC is quoting Sprocket in a seperate thread here. That's the best of both worlds. Those of us who can't get to Sprockets Blog can read it here, but the quotes are all in one place, out of the main stream.

That thread is closed....has a lock on it.

[tartangirl]

It looks like it's been worked out. NIC is quoting Sprocket in a seperate thread here. That's the best of both worlds. Those of us who can't get to Sprockets Blog can read it here, but the quotes are all in one place, out of the main stream.

It was locked a short time ago when I first got here. Unless it has been re-opened...:smile:

~as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[cook4andy]

It looks like it's been worked out. NIC is quoting Sprocket in a seperate thread here. That's the best of both worlds. Those of us who can't get to Sprockets Blog can read it here, but the quotes are all in one place, out of the main stream.


Yes, I saw that. Now I hear it is locked. So, I don't know. :confused:

[tampa-mom]

Anyone else feel like that little kid in the lastest anti-smoking commercial where he's temporarily lost his Mom and is crying....
Where's Sprocket????? I feel scared.

[Nic99]

Anyone else feel like that little kid in the lastest anti-smoking commercial where he's temporarily lost his Mom and is crying....
Where's Sprocket????? I feel scared.


Sprocket's back Day 6 here we go !!

[cook4andy]

Anyone else feel like that little kid in the lastest anti-smoking commercial where he's temporarily lost his Mom and is crying....
Where's Sprocket????? I feel scared.


She's there now. I was getting scared too. lol

[oodi]

Ok i have a stupid question......since we can't quote Sprocket anymore :( but we can post her link . Do we just say UPDATE and put her link? i'm really confused.

I think a lot of us are confused about it. Hopefully, CW will answer Nic's question about it soon.

[KathR]

Ok i have a stupid question......since we can't quote Sprocket anymore :( but we can post her link . Do we just say UPDATE and put her link? i'm really confused.

I don't think so. The links belong in the link thread. But we can surely discuss what she has posted. Let's say, she tells us about raspberry sherbet, we can say that the jury just had dessert, can't we?

[tampa-mom]

There is going to be a Dateline show airing Friday night on NBC at 10pm with Alan Jackson on a three person panel per Sprocket. I will definately be watching.

[oodi]

Nothing matters except whether you're on the right side of the grass:tonguewag:


And still pumping air in and out! :wink:


There is going to be a Dateline show airing Friday night on NBC at 10pm with Alan Jackson on a three person panel per Sprocket. I will definately be watching.

I will be watching that one too!!

[Details]

It's nearly always OK to say in your own words what you've read - so I'd say posting updates from Sprocket that are not a direct copy/paste would be fine.

Without a CW ruling, at the very least, I'd expect that the worst that will happen is the posts will be deleted.

[bballgrl]

Happy Birthday a day early!!!

As far as whether or not 37 is old... it depends on which side of it you're on! :blushing:

Awww, Thanks. I have to work 2 jobs tomorrow, so I don't know how "Happy" it will be... but I will be smack dab 37 years old. I don't feel old, so I guess that is all that counts! LOL

Yay.. Sprocket is in da (big) house! :thumbup:

[cherylt]

the jury has deliberated almost 19.75 hours...up to break this am


Thanks all. Where are you getting this info? Sprocket?

[tampa-mom]

Does anyone know if the court house will be dark friday?

FA, Sprocket said that scheduling was on a day by day basis this week.

[tampa-mom]

Sprocket said they were kicked out right at 12 noon, it would take a little time to bring in the food so maybe they've only been at lunch about an hour.

[Carol25]

Sprocket said they were kicked out right at 12 noon, it would take a little time to bring in the food so maybe they've only been at lunch about an hour.
Didn't she say they were done? No, sorry SHE was done with her lunch. Why bother saying that and getting me confused? :(

[coinoutlet]

nope. she's done eating but the jurors haven't buzzed back form lunch yet :(

We won't know for sure what the jurors did until Sprocket gets back into the court room.

[cook4andy]

We won't know for sure what the jurors did until Sprocket gets back into the court room.


Yep, that's what happened yesterday.

[dreamlawyer]

Sprocket doesn't think that there will be a LIVE feed of the verdict since there is no satellite truck there.:sad:

Who knew that a satellite truck was necessary for live feeds? I thought that these things magically appeared on my tv and computer LOL...:huh:

[True2Blues]

Sprocket doesn't think that there will be a LIVE feed of the verdict since there is no satellite truck there.:sad:

Who knew that a satellite truck was necessary for live feeds? I thought that these things magically appeared on my tv and computer LOL...:huh:

:laugh: You mean they don't? Shocking!

[KathR]

Sprocket doesn't think that there will be a LIVE feed of the verdict since there is no satellite truck there.:sad:

Who knew that a satellite truck was necessary for live feeds? I thought that these things magically appeared on my tv and computer...:huh:


I am so often amazed at all this world has to offer now. I spent the weekend nursing a bad tooth. I went out and bought some temporary filling and filled my own tooth! Then I took a cab to the dentist and watched the news during the whole cab ride. Finally got to my destination and again watched the news, this time on a little TV in the elevator taking me up to the dentist.

When I got my first job, we used something called ditto to make copies. Xerox didn't exist yet.

Back to the waiting game. Hope we hear the three bells soon. Guilty as charged.

[vonna]

Sprocket doesn't think that there will be a LIVE feed of the verdict since there is no satellite truck there.:sad:

Who knew that a satellite truck was necessary for live feeds? I thought that these things magically appeared on my tv and computer LOL...:huh:

As far as I'm concerned that is exactly how they get there!

[coinoutlet]

She"s baack!

[dreamlawyer]

Hmmm, maybe there WILL be a truck since there will be about an hour to get someone there. BUZZ, BUZZ, BUZZ - right to the media and "whoola"! there the cameras may be....
(I sure hope I'm right on that, to not see HIS face in any verdict would be way more than we should have to bear!)

Oh that may be true, there was a CNN truck there yesterday per Sprocket, maybe the truck isn't far away and once there are 3 buzzes it can race over to the courthouse! :thumbsup:

[dreamlawyer]

I'm sure they would already have announced a day off if that was the case.

Sprocket had posted that they are setting the schedule on a day to day basis since the verdict could come in at anytime.

[dreamlawyer]

well everyone......I dont see us getting a verdict today :(

Sprocket says we shouldn't be worried.....Do ya'll agree?

Sprocket has her opinion, I'M WORRIED! :sad:

[cook4andy]

Sprocket has her opinion, I'M WORRIED! :sad:

We all have our opinions and yes I'd be a liar to say I'm not worried.

I'm hoping for the best but who would have thought PS1 would turn out like it did. :cursing:

[Carol25]

well everyone......I dont see us getting a verdict today :(

Sprocket says we shouldn't be worried.....Do ya'll agree?

No. Just thinkling of Ben Ten.

[tartangirl]

well everyone......I dont see us getting a verdict today :(

Sprocket says we shouldn't be worried.....Do ya'll agree?


So far I still have faith and hope that the right verdict will be soon. Positive thoughts here. Just the only way I know how to think. :wink:


~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[Curlyjo]

Hey the link for the radio show is:http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dennisngriffin/2009/04/09/Juror-Thirteen Juror #9 is on also.

dang...I had question for sprocket but they had a problem opening up the phone lines.....:huh:

[cook4andy]

Good morning,

Has the jury started deliberating yet? It's almost 9:30 here.

Good afternoon from the East coast :)

They should start at 9:30.

Still no word from Sprocket at 9:29 CA time.

Correction: Sprocket just posted.

[Details]

Good morning,

Has the jury started deliberating yet? It's almost 9:30 here.No Sprocket updates since last night. She could be running late, or they could be. Usually she comments on her arrival at court, so for all we know, they're already hard at work, and she's sitting on a train that is running late.

[tampa-mom]

Thanks for the responses.

It's nice to know they are hard at work--hoping for the verdict before lunch today.

So far per Sprocket there has been no buzz indicating that they've begun this morning.

[Details]

So far per Sprocket there has been no buzz indicating that they've begun this morning.Sounds to me like the buzzer happened before she got there - the jury is there, no buzz for 20 minutes - I suspect that means that they started, and there's no one there to tell the reporters that they already started.

She said she didn't know if they started, not that they hadn't, so anything is possible.

Nope - I was all wrong - one juror was late - toxic spill likely was the cause. He's there now, so hopefully a buzz will happen soon.

[Details]

New Sprocket information - some discussion with the PIO about why the court does not allow late deliberation, why the hours they work with, etc. Has a lot to do with the number of staff needed to keep the courthouse open, the amount of driving the jurors may need to do combined with the LA traffic that can turn a 5 mile drive (let alone a 20 mile drive) into a multi-hour nightmare.

[newsjunkie]

Sprocket says to cut this jury some slack BUT they started late didn't miss a beat on their break and started lunch a bit early.
How can they get into it mentally with so many timeouts?

[WYSIWYG]

Sprocket says to cut this jury some slack BUT they started late didn't miss a beat on their break and started lunch a bit early.
How can they get into it mentally with so many timeouts?

Well, every desk job I have ever had came with some built-in stopping points-- where you wrap up one part of a project and take a break before starting the next part? They have to manage their focus SOME way.

~S~

[Details]

Sprocket says to cut this jury some slack BUT they started late didn't miss a beat on their break and started lunch a bit early.
How can they get into it mentally with so many timeouts?People need breaks - mentally. An hour of discussion is productive, 2 hours less productive, 3 hours and most have tuned out - in my experience. Breaks make meetings more productive. And even when the juror is late (19 minutes - nothing that bad), people still need their smoke/bathroom/stretch break.

And we don't know that they started lunch early - we just know the courtroom was cleared - maybe so they can set lunch up and have it ready for the jurors, a mere 8 minutes early. There was no buzz. They've been taking a shorter lunchbreak than they're entitled to.