April 6

[GentleBreeze]

I noticed the article about the man reporting the tip was timed this morning before the container was found. Could be they decided they better check it out & then found it.

I'm curious now about who lives on that dairy farm.

As soon as I replied to you, Destini, I went back and looked at the time that article was published very early this morning.

Is this a coincidence? Imo no. I think LE called the farm and ask them to drain the pond and they found the bag.

I do wonder if anyone that lives in that trailer park works at the dairy farm. I think the perp went there because he was familiar with that area.

imoo

[aproudmom]

http://twitter.com/TracyPress

Tracy press twitter.

Investigators drive off with suitcase to open it and see if it's contents are related to the missing Sandra Cantu, 8.about 1 hour ago from web

[5boxersmom]

Here is a link.

http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_12083966?nclick_check=1

A coroner's van arrived at about 3 p.m. at the scene, a farm near Bacchetti Road in northeast Tracy about two miles north of the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park where Sandra was living when she disappeared after returning home from school on March 27.

TY.

This is Sandra's father at the scene. I have only saw him once but I think this picture is him.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news

[lune3]

Your post just reminded me of something I read earlier today, don't know if it's connected or not .....

http://cbs13.com/crime/tip.boat.sandra.2.977073.html

(snipped)

An Oakland man wants answers from Tracy Police. He claims he gave them a tip about Sandra Cantu's whereabouts and they didn't follow up.

Johnny Williams says he called a tip into police Friday, but never got a response. He said he saw a man in a boat with a girl where the police had been searching. He says the man in the boat's behavior was erratic and suspicious.

I came across mention of this earlier today. But if it's true he saw a man in a boat WITH a girl, then the suitcase thing doesn't make sense. Also I'd think it would be difficult to drag a suitcase onto a boat. I'm not sure what to think of that tip.

[GentleBreeze]

Wait, I thought the ME was notified and went there today Am I wrong?

No you aren't wrong...... they arrived around 3 pm.

[aproudmom]

As soon as I replied to you, Destini, I went back and looked at the time that article was published very early this morning.

Is this a coincidence? Imo no. I think LE called the farm and ask them to drain the pond and they found the bag.

I do wonder if anyone that lives in that trailer park works at the dairy farm. I think the perp went there because he was familiar with that area.

imoo

I agree or someone that knew when it was searched or had been searched..someone close to what was being done in the searches the one guy they took in the other day was at every vigil not saying he did anything I have a feeling this will be someone that knew what was going on..may have even been searching I pray this is nothing but I think it is not good I hope I am wrong.

[~jomomma~]

i can't imagine anybody putting a boat in those ponds. wonder what kind of boat? and is this the location this guy is talking about?

i agree that the ME (and FBI for that matter) would go to a scene if it was just a piece of luggage found. somebody smelled something or someone from the farm took a peek.

dang i'm gonna have to head to bed soon. wish we'd hear something!

[5boxersmom]

As soon as I replied to you, Destini, I went back and looked at the time that article was published very early this morning.

Is this a coincidence? Imo no. I think LE called the farm and ask them to drain the pond and they found the bag.

I do wonder if anyone that lives in that trailer park works at the dairy farm. I think the perp went there because he was familiar with that area.

imoo

Did he say where he saw the man in the boat? I didn't watch the video just read the story.

[IlliniFan]

has this been posted...been away from my computer

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/


UPDATE: Announcement expected

[Tia]

Tia, they don't want the media to get the front line on this one, not until they have secured the evidence, I can understand that.
All these little girls should be skipping and getting ready to collect easter eggs, not be found thrown away like trash, as you say.
Its unthinkable what this family is going through.
Its safe to say they are not dining at the Ritz tonight with the media, though.

I am really happy to see that they are blocking the media on this one.

Sandra's mother is in so much pain.........I can't imagine what she is going through, and as you say, I'm sure she is not dining at the Ritz tonight.........:angry: She is most likely a complete disaster, hoping like we all are that Sandra is NOT in that container.

:rose:

[dinojen]

Farmworkers discovered the container in a pond that had been drained for the first time in two weeks and called San Joaquin Sheriff's Department at 10:30 a.m. today.

The Tracy Police Department was called, and an immediate roadblock was set up on Tracy Boulevard, close to Bacchetti and Whitehall roads, about two miles north of the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, where 8-year-old Sandra Cantu was reported missing on March 27.

Sheneman said there is no indication that there is a body inside the container; however, a coroner's van arrived at the farm off Tracy Boulevard around 3 p.m.


The Tracy Police Department have said they'll have a press conference at 8 tonight to report the latest findings regarding a suspicious container found this morning.

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

[GentleBreeze]

i can't imagine anybody putting a boat in those ponds. wonder what kind of boat? and is this the location this guy is talking about?

i agree that the ME (and FBI for that matter) would go to a scene if it was just a piece of luggage found. somebody smelled something or someone from the farm took a peek.

dang i'm gonna have to head to bed soon. wish we'd hear something!

A john boat would do just fine in the size pond. It is light weight and it can even be hauled in the back of a pickup without having to have a trailer. One man can launch it by themselves.

imo

[5boxersmom]

has this been posted...been away from my computer

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/


UPDATE: Announcement expected

TY. I had not seen that. Be 11 p.m here in the East.

[Motomom]

Hi everyone. Haven't posted on this case but have been following it. Doesn't look like any word on what is in the suitcase yet? I'm praying it is not this beautiful little girl. :crying: I am just so sick and fed up with these sickos in this world. I'll never forget the video of Joseph Smith walking off with Carlie Bruscia and I'll always remember the skipping and happy Sandra we see on the video.

My heart breaks for this family.

[adpilove]

Man, we have to wait another hour for the next press conference? If I'm having serious anxiety, what on earth is that family going through? Please God, come through for this family!!

[darjeeling]

How long until it gets dark there?

It's around 7 pm here so about another 45 minutes or so of day light.



BTW, just for people's reference, that place where they found her, it's not exactly a pond. To me, a pond is a small thing. The body of water, at least from what I have seen, looks more like a big, man-made lake...at least 3 Olympic-sized pools. :sad:

[IlliniFan]

Oh dear. That's in just more than 1 hour from now. I'm so sad.

Thank you so much for the head's up. We can still hope!

I know, it doesn't necessarily mean bad news...

[aproudmom]

I came across mention of this earlier today. But if it's true he saw a man in a boat WITH a girl, then the suitcase thing doesn't make sense. Also I'd think it would be difficult to drag a suitcase onto a boat. I'm not sure what to think of that tip.

CS who was called a POI early on did have a canoe and the oakdale resident he is linked to had a boat but it was a larger boat I would think someone would have seen a boat that big...I am not sure if his cars have been returned yet was trying to ask his SIL who was a poster on here but she has not been on for awhile

[Destini]

As soon as I replied to you, Destini, I went back and looked at the time that article was published very early this morning.

Is this a coincidence? Imo no. I think LE called the farm and ask them to drain the pond and they found the bag.

I do wonder if anyone that lives in that trailer park works at the dairy farm. I think the perp went there because he was familiar with that area.

imoo

I don't know what to think. I'm wondering if this is the same body of water the tipster was calling about. If it is & it is her, I'd say the tipster is an eyewitness & most likely lives somewhere right around that farm himself. Tipster could actually be one of the farm workers. Hmm.

But he did say he saw a man and a little girl in the boat, not a bag ..... so I don't know.

[dinojen]

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, Calif. -- Investigators are unsure if a piece of luggage found Monday in a San Joaquin County irrigation pond is tied to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu.

Images: Investigators Arrive At Discovery Site

Cantu, 8, was last seen March 27 inside Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, just off West Clover Road.

Tracy police said farmworkers found a black, sealed case Monday while they were draining a pond near Bacchetti Road, about two miles from Orchard Estates.

It was a black piece of luggage of significant size with both hard and soft sides.

"There are no indications that there are human remains in there," Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html

[aproudmom]

It's around 7 pm here so about another 45 minutes or so of day light.



BTW, just for people's reference, that place where they found her, it's not exactly a pond. To me, a pond is a small thing. The body of water, at least from what I have seen, looks more like a big, man-made lake...at least 3 Olympic-sized pools. :sad:

it looked like a irrigation pond like you said 3 large sized bodies of water close together...not sure how deep they are..

[adpilove]

Does anyone know where this press conference can be viewed online when it occurs at 8pm?

[~jomomma~]

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, Calif. -- Investigators are unsure if a piece of luggage found Monday in a San Joaquin County irrigation pond is tied to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu.

Images: Investigators Arrive At Discovery Site

Cantu, 8, was last seen March 27 inside Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, just off West Clover Road.

Tracy police said farmworkers found a black, sealed case Monday while they were draining a pond near Bacchetti Road, about two miles from Orchard Estates.

It was a black piece of luggage of significant size with both hard and soft sides.

"There are no indications that there are human remains in there," Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html

i read that earlier a few times but i keep going back to why the ME and FBI would be there then :mellow:

[aproudmom]

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, Calif. -- Investigators are unsure if a piece of luggage found Monday in a San Joaquin County irrigation pond is tied to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu.

Images: Investigators Arrive At Discovery Site

Cantu, 8, was last seen March 27 inside Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, just off West Clover Road.

Tracy police said farmworkers found a black, sealed case Monday while they were draining a pond near Bacchetti Road, about two miles from Orchard Estates.

It was a black piece of luggage of significant size with both hard and soft sides.

"There are no indications that there are human remains in there," Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html

OK guys all we can hope for since no one has let it out that any smell came from the luggage it may not be bad...lets just pray...it isn't her..I for one think they knew when they took it the smell of dec is very distinct to LE as we know in the Anthony case...though caylees body was not found in the car it still smelled...positive thoughts..pray it is nothing and she is still found safe...:crying:

[ttcRider]

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, Calif. -- Investigators are unsure if a piece of luggage found Monday in a San Joaquin County irrigation pond is tied to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu.

Images: Investigators Arrive At Discovery Site

Cantu, 8, was last seen March 27 inside Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, just off West Clover Road.

Tracy police said farmworkers found a black, sealed case Monday while they were draining a pond near Bacchetti Road, about two miles from Orchard Estates.

It was a black piece of luggage of significant size with both hard and soft sides.

"There are no indications that there are human remains in there," Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html

Bolding is mine. I don't know what to think now.. Maybe it didnt smell like decomp? :confused:

[dinojen]

i read that earlier a few times but i keep going back to why the ME and FBI would be there then :mellow:

They called the FBI in right after she went missing.. I think they are just covering their investigation so nothing is compromised... JMOOC...

It's possible this could be nothing.. at least let's hope so.

For those of you not in the Bay Area.. try any of the local news channel websites and they should cover the PC.

www.kcra.com
www.ktvu.com
www.cbs5.com
www.kgo.com

[aproudmom]

Does anyone know where this press conference can be viewed online when it occurs at 8pm?

Is there any locals on here that can let us know if and when the press conf. will be TIA I keep refreshing all these media sites it is 10:13 here so 8 would be less than a hour right?

[ttcRider]

i read that earlier a few times but i keep going back to why the ME and FBI would be there then :mellow:

IIRC the police made a few statements regarding the high number of investigators and LE involved so maybe its just par for the course? Everyone is there to check it out because there are so many involved?

[aproudmom]

They called the FBI in right after she went missing.. I think they are just covering their investigation so nothing is compromised... JMOOC...

It's possible this could be nothing.. at least let's hope so.

For those of you not in the Bay Area.. try any of the local news channel websites and they should cover the PC.

www.kcra.com
www.ktvu.com
www.cbs5.com
www.kgo.com

thanks you so much dino all I see on my tv is Casey Anthony:cursing:

[aproudmom]

They called the FBI in right after she went missing.. I think they are just covering their investigation so nothing is compromised... JMOOC...

It's possible this could be nothing.. at least let's hope so.

For those of you not in the Bay Area.. try any of the local news channel websites and they should cover the PC.

www.kcra.com
www.ktvu.com
www.cbs5.com
www.kgo.com

http://twitter.com/TracyPress
12 min ago from twitter on tracy
Press conference at 8 p.m. at City Hall. Sgt. Sheneman is expected to talk about the container.
12 minutes ago from web

[Destini]

Bolding is mine. I don't know what to think now.. Maybe it didnt smell like decomp? :confused:

Well, I'm just hoping and praying this was all just being overly cautious and it is not her and she is alive somewhere ..... on the other hand, would you be able to smell decomp if she was put inside a plastic bag?? Ugh, I hate to think it.

There's some reason there were so many LE there today, possibly IMO a combination of the man-and-little-girl-in-boat tipster combined with the bag found in pond by farm workers.

But I hope I'm totally wrong & think I'll wait for the press conference before I speculate anymore.

[~jomomma~]

They called the FBI in right after she went missing.. I think they are just covering their investigation so nothing is compromised... JMOOC...

It's possible this could be nothing.. at least let's hope so.

For those of you not in the Bay Area.. try any of the local news channel websites and they should cover the PC.

www.kcra.com
www.ktvu.com
www.cbs5.com
www.kgo.com


oh, i know the FBI was called in but today, they had their evidence trucks, collecting evidence and placing red flags around.

i hope it's nothing.

thanks for the links!

[lune3]

I know but to be honest I think they knew there was a decomposing body in the container. Hate to say it but they don't call out the FBI & medical examiner and close off air space for every discarded item.

I lean to the same conclusion.

But, looking for some hope here, what if they ARE taking all these extra precautions. These are smallish towns and are relatively close together. The FBI, and ME might be more available than in say Los Angeles.

But then....a suitcase in an irrigation pond, dumped there within the last 2 weeks? What are the chances for such a weird and coincidental occurence?

[ttcRider]

Well, I'm just hoping and praying this was all just being overly cautious and it is not her and she is alive somewhere ..... on the other hand, would you be able to smell decomp if she was put inside a plastic bag?? Ugh, I hate to think it.

There's some reason there were so many LE there today, possibly IMO a combination of the man-and-little-girl-in-boat tipster combined with the bag found in pond by farm workers.

But I hope I'm totally wrong & think I'll wait for the press conference before I speculate anymore.

I agree Destini, I am going to try and wait too. :bored:

[GentleBreeze]

Bolding is mine. I don't know what to think now.. Maybe it didn't smell like decomp? :confused:

I think it is just police-ism and the way they phrase everything. They say the luggage or container is sealed so imo the decomp maybe has not escaped but they will continue to say there is no indication of a human body because they have not opened it up yet.

They are not going to get caught saying something that turns out to make them look inept if it happens not to be Sandra or a body and I really hope it isn't.

So I don't find that phrasing odd at all but typical speak-isms by LE.

imo

[dinojen]

thanks you so much dino all I see on my tv is Casey Anthony:cursing:

No prob.. I would try www.kcra.com first as it's a Sacramento station.. also www.tracypress.com might carry it being that's the local newspaper...

[darjeeling]

I think it is just police-ism and the way they phrase everything. They say the luggage or container is sealed so imo the decomp maybe has not escaped but they will continue to say there is no indication of a human body because they have not opened it up yet.

They are not going to get caught saying something that turns out to make them look inept if it happens not to be Sandra or a body and I really hope it isn't.

So I don't find that phrasing odd at all but typical speak-isms by LE.

imo

Good point

[GentleBreeze]

Here's some info about irrigation ponds. They're a dirt hole in the ground. No boat launches.

http://www.plumbingknowledge.com/irrigation-systems/pond-irrigation-system.html

Pond Irrigation System

The sides slope. It is a piece of cake to take a john boat out of the back of a pickup truck and just push it down the sloped embankment into the water.

It doesn't need a boat launch.

imo

[shadowdiana]

Escondido is down by Sab Diego
Tracy is near Sacramento/Bay area.

Hundreds of miles apart

[darjeeling]

It's about 7:35 on the West Coast and starting to get dark.

[lune3]

Well FBI is federal and it says on their web site that missing children are one of the instances that they investigate.

The LE official's statement was "There are no indications that there are human remains in there," Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman said.

the word human is the adjective, so that kind of tells me they know it's decomp remains of some sort.

I agree that a suitcase in an irrigation pond would be suspicious. Especially since it apparently materialized there within the last two weeks (since it was last drained)

But LE would recognize the difference between human and animal decomp, no? If it's an animal, why in a suitcase, why not dump it somewhere (much as that makes me seethe) or bury it ?

[aproudmom]

No prob.. I would try www.kcra.com first as it's a Sacramento station.. also www.tracypress.com might carry it being that's the local newspaper...

seems as though the tracy press is down twitter and the link above..must be busy

[lune3]

Mapquest; Tracy, CA to Escondido, CA

Total Estimated Time: 6 hours 47 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 437.83 miles

That's in light traffic probably. More like an 8 hr drive if one is lucky.

I agree, 6 3/4 hours is optimistic to say the least!

[MrLucky917B]

is it true that Escondido is only 35 miles from the Tracy area? I am thinking of Amber and just how close this case is to her disappearance as well?

Escondido is a couple of hundred miles from Tracy

[dinojen]

seems as though the tracy press is down twitter and the link above..must be busy

Probably overloaded...try kcra... best bet.

15 mins. till 8 here...

[lune3]

They must know by now.
I can't imagine how Sandra's parents are handling this awful wait.

[dinojen]

Escondido is a couple of hundred miles from Tracy

Your right.. Escondido is south of San Diego.. that's a good 7 hour drive..no where near Tracy

[ttcRider]

he said no indication it's human remains. I assume they smell decomp and just haven't determined if it's a dog or such.

I think it's most likely human and I think they believe so, too.

I know I promised to wait until the pc but one more thought... maybe its a litter of puppies or kittens rather than a dead pet? :blink:

[MrLucky917B]

Your right.. Escondido is south of San Diego.. that's a good 7 hour drive..no where near Tracy

Escondido is about 35 miles north of San Diego

[TXbeaver]

They must know by now.
I can't imagine how Sandra's parents are handling this awful wait.

I assme that LE would call Sandra's parents well before any press conference. They may already know whether or not there were human remains found.

[ttcRider]

huh? ........

It's the LE officer who said no indication of HUMAN remains. not me.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean you. I was just thinking 'dog' in your post. :wub:

[darjeeling]

A coroner's van arrived at the farm off Tracy Boulevard around 3 p.m. Sheneman said that the coroners were called in merely as a precaution.

Hope it's not a repost.

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

[adpilove]

On Twitter a few min ago....

Coming up at 8PM on SearchForSandra.com - live streaming press conference from Tracy on sealed container contents and Sandra Cantu update

[adpilove]

Looks like its been pushed to 8:15

[Former Juror]

I have been away all day and am trying to catch up. Can someone give me a quick synopsis? It seems that a container/suitcase was found that might have human remains in it. I saw something about a red ribbon on it? What is the significance of that? I also haven't seen where it was found.

Since LE doesn't think this was an abduction, do they think it was a family member?

Thanks so much!

[TXbeaver]

I have always been a staunch opponent of the death penalty. I used to picket TX executions as a college student. Cases like this make me rethink my position. Whoever took that little girl deserves bad, bad things.

[aproudmom]

I assme that LE would call Sandra's parents well before any press conference. They may already know whether or not there were human remains found.

O yeah I am sure of that.

[darjeeling]

Looks like its been pushed to 8:15

Chit, what is that mean?

[5boxersmom]

huh? ........

It's the LE officer who said no indication of HUMAN remains. not me.

It was reported four people lifted it out of there,so I would say something is in there. Wouldn't you?

imo

[adpilove]

I have been away all day and am trying to catch up. Can someone give me a quick synopsis? It seems that a container/suitcase was found that might have human remains in it. I saw something about a red ribbon on it? What is the significance of that? I also haven't seen where it was found.

Since LE doesn't think this was an abduction, do they think it was a family member?

Thanks so much!

They haven't disclosed any info. They haven't even opened up the suitcase/container. Press conference in about 15 min about what's inside.

[aproudmom]

On Twitter a few min ago....

Coming up at 8PM on SearchForSandra.com - live streaming press conference from Tracy on sealed container contents and Sandra Cantu update

thank you I have been going to every site trying to find out were to see it I will go to the searchforsandra.com site..

[5boxersmom]

Looks like its been pushed to 8:15

Has it? Hmmmmm

[adpilove]

Chit, what is that mean?

Huh? It means they've pushed the press conference to 8:15pm PST

[dinojen]

Escondido is about 35 miles north of San Diego

Hell I get lost everytime I go down there... fly into San Diego then drive up to Carlsbad... but going back to the airport I screw up everytime..

Either way it's a hell of a drive from the bay area.

[ttcRider]

my post #336

he said no indication it's human remains. I assume they smell decomp and just haven't determined if it's a dog or such.
I think it's most likely human and I think they believe so, too.

I didn't say dog. I said IF. I didn't say dog I said OR SOME SUCH

I think it's human. I think they just carefully worded their answers to the press for the sake of not grieving Sandra's family before they know for sure.

Again, sorry. i saw the word 'DOG' in your post, made me think of a litter. Won't quote you anymore. No worries. gheesh

[~jomomma~]

On Twitter a few min ago....

Coming up at 8PM on SearchForSandra.com - live streaming press conference from Tracy on sealed container contents and Sandra Cantu update


thanks! this is perfect!

[adpilove]

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

[5boxersmom]

Would they have had time to notify the family if it is Sandra?

[~jomomma~]

again, sorry. I saw the word 'dog' in your post, made me think of a litter. Won't quote you anymore. No worries. Gheesh

lol!!!!......

[dinojen]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/main

[aproudmom]

at the very top click on the link and I am seeing the press room right now..


Now Streaming: Awaiting press conference at 8PM from Tracy Police on contents of sealed container
http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

[5boxersmom]

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Thanks. That is the link I am using.

[GentleBreeze]

Would they have had time to notify the family if it is Sandra?

Do you even think they would do that this soon? I mean (gosh how I hate to write this) but she may not be recognizable even if it is her and they may have to do DNA.

I don't think we are going to know much more tonight but I guess we might.

imo

[5boxersmom]

Do you even think they would do that this soon? I mean (gosh how I hate to write this) but she may not be recognizable even if it is her and they may have to do DNA.

I don't think we are going to know much more tonight but I guess we might.

imo

That's true. I don't know. If it is a body would they go tell her mom before they put it out in a presser even if they are not sure it is her?

[psbperu]

Thanks posters for the links to streaming video...

[Keegan]

Do you even think they would do that this soon? I mean (gosh how I hate to write this) but she may not be recognizable even if it is her and they may have to do DNA.

I don't think we are going to know much more tonight but I guess we might.

imo

They could identify her by dental records. She had temporary caps on her back teeth.

[aproudmom]

Do you even think they would do that this soon? I mean (gosh how I hate to write this) but she may not be recognizable even if it is her and they may have to do DNA.

I don't think we are going to know much more tonight but I guess we might.

imo

I am hoping they do not have a body and that is why they are having this press conf. I dont know but the waiting is killing me.

[GentleBreeze]

I think we'll know. I can't imagine they'll call a press conference if they haven't opened the container and looked - and it's either the remains of a little girl, or it isn't. I think just by the hair color and length it will be obvious, if in fact it's human remains, although obviously they'll have to do the forensics.

You are probably right. I guess I am dreading it in a way.

I thought they said the container had to be taken out of town. Do you think they have had time to do all of this

imoo

[~jomomma~]

They could identify her by dental records. She had temporary caps on her back teeth.


:sad:

this is sooo sad

[MrLucky917B]

Do you even think they would do that this soon? I mean (gosh how I hate to write this) but she may not be recognizable even if it is her and they may have to do DNA.

I don't think we are going to know much more tonight but I guess we might.

imo

I think the only thing they will say is if it was a false alarm or not, if it is a body they will not be able to confirm who it is yet.

[PBJMOM4]

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Thanks for the link!
I don't know the whole "twitter" deal :(

[aproudmom]

did anyone catch that website..
missing childrens chp or something like that? it is on the front of the podium

[GentleBreeze]

I am hoping they do not have a body and that is why they are having this press conf. I don't know but the waiting is killing me.

I have mixed emotions. If Sandra is no longer here with us then I want her home with her family so she can have a proper burial.

And then I hope that it isn't her at all but maybe some stolen items from a robbery or something.

I am conflicted.

imo

[aproudmom]

Thanks for the link!
I don't know the whole "twitter" deal :(

I don't use twitter but a lot of live trials I watch people update through it so that is why I usually read what they are saying..have no idea what it is..heck I just now got texting down...

[GumShoeJoe]

Oh no. Just saw this come across on Twitter:
A source says it is her:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_12083949?nclick_check=1

I hope it is not true.

[~jomomma~]

Oh no. Just saw this come across on Twitter:
A source says it is her:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_12083949?nclick_check=1

I hope it is not true.


oh no!!! :crying:

[PBJMOM4]

I don't use twitter but a lot of live trials I watch people update through it so that is why I usually read what they are saying..have no idea what it is..heck I just now got texting down...

LOL @ texting! K, now your 2 steps ahead of me!
<<technically challenged>>:blushing:

[5boxersmom]

I wish they would hurry up. I am a nervous wreck. My clock says it is 11:16, so 8: 16 in CA.

I so want Sandra to come home safe.

[royals02]

I know I can look it up online but thought it would be easier just to ask you nice people here.....whats the time difference between west coast and east coast.
Thanks so much

[GentleBreeze]

The delay is really making me nervous.

Are they talking with her family.

My heart is in my throat.

imo

[PBJMOM4]

I know I can look it up online but thought it would be easier just to ask you nice people here.....whats the time difference between west coast and east coast.
Thanks so much

3 hour difference

[5boxersmom]

I know I can look it up online but thought it would be easier just to ask you nice people here.....whats the time difference between west coast and east coast.
Thanks so much

3 hours......

[GentleBreeze]

I know I can look it up online but thought it would be easier just to ask you nice people here.....whats the time difference between west coast and east coast.
Thanks so much

3 hours

It should be starting now. EST and they are running late it seems

[Former Juror]

The press or whoever is in that room is sure noisy. Laughing, loud talking, etc. I would think that, regardless of the results, the fact that there even needs to be a press conference regarding a missing child should constitute a solemn occassion.

[aproudmom]

I have mixed emotions. If Sandra is no longer here with us then I want her home with her family so she can have a proper burial.

And then I hope that it isn't her at all but maybe some stolen items from a robbery or something.

I am conflicted.

imo

I know I am the same the families that never know or find their kids say they would much rather now or have them back no matter what..you know I was looking they have a lot of robberies there I was looking at the police log the other night..

My son who worked in CA for a month just told me he was in that park it is a team of teens an young adults 18-21 that go around selling magazines door to door...he remembered the park as soon as he came in here said it was a nice place...

[PBJMOM4]

The delay is really making me nervous.

Are they talking with her family.

My heart is in my throat.

imo

OMG, I can't even imagine. I can only pray for them.

[oxfordfox]

What network is this on, Please?

[5boxersmom]

Did he just say moved to 8:30?

[aproudmom]

8:40 now just put it back again

[psbperu]

Just someone say..pc at 8:40

[ttcRider]

Pushed to 8:40

[darjeeling]

Oh no. Just saw this come across on Twitter:
A source says it is her:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_12083949?nclick_check=1

I hope it is not true.

TRACY — Sources are saying that police will announce later tonight that the body of a missing Tracy girl was found inside a black container discovered in a farm pond just 2 miles away from where the child was last seen 10 days ago.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_12083949?nclick_check=1

I'm so sorry

[Taybug]

Now it's gonna be at 8:40. This is killing me. I can only imagine how her family feels.

MOO

[adpilove]

I just heard some guy on the live stream say its been pushed to 8:40. I could be wrong though......

[GentleBreeze]

What did that guy just say?

They are going to be even later?

tia

[aproudmom]

What network is this on, Please?

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

[~jomomma~]

oh my gosh!

[5boxersmom]

It's 8:20p.m. California time & they just stopped the live stream.

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Mine is still working. Click on it. It stops if you don't click it every once in awhile.

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

[royals02]

OH SO SAD...in my opinion, all these delays in the press conference are not a good sign:sad:

[psbperu]

Perhaps they are getting their ducks in a row..as to who will speak first & so on?

[VC2]

yes details please, i am on dial up.

this is so sad if its her. yet...i cant imagine thise many hours without letting ppl know it was a bunch of clothes in a garment bag

[GentleBreeze]

I just heard some guy on the live stream say its been pushed to 8:40. I could be wrong though......

thanks, I couldnt make it out.

imo

[PBJMOM4]

It's 8:20p.m. California time & they just stopped the live stream.

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Sometimes the screen turns black due to "inactivity"
look on the bottom of the player to refresh. My came right back up.
Hope that helps.

[aproudmom]

They stopped the live stream at 8:20p.m.

it is still on I have it on 2 diff ones here is one
http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

[5boxersmom]

Pushed to 8:40

Thanks. I thought he said 8:30. Must be something.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

Mine is still working. Click on it. It stops if you don't click it every once in awhile.

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Right, I just hit my refresh button and it comes back up.

imo

[VC2]

Press conference at 8:40, according to a voice in the background at the news conference podium.


It seems clear they aren't going to announce that the container held nothing of interest. : (
perhaps informing all the family is taking longer than expected?

[aproudmom]

yes details please, i am on dial up.

this is so sad if its her. yet...i cant imagine thise many hours without letting ppl know it was a bunch of clothes in a garment bag

yuck dial up ok so far nothing pushed back to 8:40 I am sure everyone on here will keep it updated

[rosieposett]

Oh no. Just saw this come across on Twitter:
A source says it is her:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_12083949?nclick_check=1

I hope it is not true.

Oh no. Oh,my. I have tears running down my face. I am so hoping it is not her, but I have had a fear all evening. If it is a body and is not her then someone else's love one was in that bag. This is too sad.

[titanfan217]

LOL @ texting! K, now your 2 steps ahead of me!
<<technically challenged>>:blushing:

Me too, and I'm not technically challenged but having to type on those little keys makes no sense.

[rosieposett]

yes details please, i am on dial up.

this is so sad if its her. yet...i cant imagine thise many hours without letting ppl know it was a bunch of clothes in a garment bag

I used to be on dial-up. Now I have broadband. It's nicer than dial-up but not anywhere close to DSL. But an improvement nonetheless.

[ttcRider]

I think I need to learn how to twitter, that seems like the fastest way people are getting their information these days. :mellow:

[emdragon]

Anyone know if her father is still in the area or back in Mexico? If he left that could be a reason for the hold up.

I'm hopeful but realistic and it all just points to bad news and they can't reach someone so can't announce it.

[psbperu]

If it is Sandra perhaps they are waiting for confirmation of same?

[emdragon]

Me too, and I'm not technically challenged but having to type on those little keys makes no sense.

Get an Iphone the keyboard is bigger and easier to use.

VC I am on dial up at work and couldn't watch any of the coverage today.

[~jomomma~]

Anyone know if her father is still in the area or back in Mexico? If he left that could be a reason for the hold up.

I'm hopeful but realistic and it all just points to bad news and they can't reach someone so can't announce it.

he was at the scene earlier today emdragon

[5boxersmom]

Anyone know if her father is still in the area or back in Mexico? If he left that could be a reason for the hold up.

I'm hopeful but realistic and it all just points to bad news and they can't reach someone so can't announce it.

It was reported he was at the scene today.

[ttcRider]

You and me both ttc! We are not up to date on our technology!

I use to be cool you know! :crying: :wink:

[SwFlorida]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/main

This one is working good.

[royals02]

You and me both ttc! We are not up to date on our technology!

I'm with you guys....I dont even really understand what twitter is or how it works....Im still in the dark ages I guess

[GumShoeJoe]

I think I need to learn how to twitter, that seems like the fastest way people are getting their information these days. :mellow:

You don't have to "twitter" to see it, you can view what others are saying on twitter, just go to:

search.twitter.com

and type in Sandra Cantu in the s earch box.

You will get a list of twitter posts that have her name, then it keeps updating and tells you to refresh" when there are new ones.

Hope that helps. Most of the news outlets are on Twitter so you see their stuff there pretty fast.

[titanfan217]

Get an Iphone the keyboard is bigger and easier to use.

VC I am on dial up at work and couldn't watch any of the coverage today.

Thanks but I'll stick to voice especially since I can call anywhere in the country with no extra charges.

[GentleBreeze]

Anyone know if her father is still in the area or back in Mexico? If he left that could be a reason for the hold up.

I'm hopeful but realistic and it all just points to bad news and they can't reach someone so can't announce it.

Since he was at the scene today I would think he is still right there waiting.

imo

[lune3]

That Twitter link, I can't open it. I hate to ask this but it says the source is confirming it's Sandra???

[~jomomma~]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

Police Sources: Sandra Cantu's Body Recovered From Luggage

ohhhh noooo! :crying:

[ttcRider]

You don't have to "twitter" to see it, you can view what others are saying on twitter, just go to:

search.twitter.com

and type in Sandra Cantu in the s earch box.

You will get a list of twitter posts that have her name, then it keeps updating and tells you to refresh" when there are new ones.

Hope that helps. Most of the news outlets are on Twitter so you see their stuff there pretty fast.

thanks GumShoeJoe! Cool :thumbup:

[PBJMOM4]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

Police Sources: Sandra Cantu's Body Recovered From Luggage

Ugh...The Father?!

[emdragon]

Thanks everyone for the info on the dad- like I said dial up at work no streaming video so I missed that..

But that just seals it for me, asking him there means something.

[adpilove]

ohhhh noooo! :crying:

Oh i'm going to throw up now!!

[5boxersmom]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

Police Sources: Sandra Cantu's Body Recovered From Luggage

I figured it was. :sad:

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

Police Sources: Sandra Cantu's Body Recovered From Luggage


:rose::rose::crying:

[oxfordfox]

Thanks for the link. Can somebody recommend a good pair of computer speakers for not too much money? My speakers died and all I have is whatever is built into my flat screen. I can barely hear anything! Help! :cursing:

[~jomomma~]

Oh i'm going to throw up now!!

i know. my body has chills.

i'm just so sick of this!!! and we just saw her skipping away without a care in the world (the way it SHOULD be)

:mad:

[aproudmom]

Oh no. Oh,my. I have tears running down my face. I am so hoping it is not her, but I have had a fear all evening. If it is a body and is not her then someone else's love one was in that bag. This is too sad.

Hi rosie
did someone say it came across twitter it was her????????

[GentleBreeze]

Ugh...The Father?!


:confused: What do you mean?

thanks

imo

[5boxersmom]

i know. my body has chills.

i'm just so sick of this!!! and we just saw her skipping away without a care in the world (the way it SHOULD be)

:mad:

I believe she is skipping in Heaven now.

Still makes me mad though.

imo

[Destini]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

Police Sources: Sandra Cantu's Body Recovered From Luggage

Oh, no ..... what we were all afraid of.

RIP Sandra:rose:

I hope they found lots of evidence.

[GumShoeJoe]

thanks GumShoeJoe! Cool :thumbup:


Oh, my pleasure, I thought it was much more complicated ,myself until someone showed me how to do this, so I thought I'd just pass along the favor.

With all the news outlets "twittering" their breaking news, it is a really good way to get them fast.

search.twitter.com

and type in the name.

[threesnugbugs]

Poor Sandra and her family....

[5boxersmom]

Thanks for the link. Can somebody recommend a good pair of computer speakers for not too much money? My speakers died and all I have is whatever is built into my flat screen. I can barely hear anything! Help! :cursing:

Got any headphones?

[oxfordfox]

Thanks! I was hoping to get something on ebay!

[oxfordfox]

I do have headphones. if I can find them that is. Would they help?

[Destini]

I can't help but hope they are late with the PC because they are in the process of an arrest.

[GentleBreeze]

These crimes are beyond horrible. I hope they catch whoever did this and bring them to justice. I know they're entitled to their appeals, but after that they should be put down like the deranged dogs they are.

Remembering Sandra's Mother and her family (especially the little ones) in my prayers.

Sandra's mom and dad have to be hysterical.

This may be what is taking so long. I think a lot of emotions are flowing now.

So sad.

Rest in peace, beautiful Sandra.

[GumShoeJoe]

I can't help but hope they are late with the PC because they are in the process of an arrest.


Oh! That is an interesting thought.

[5boxersmom]

I do have headphones. if I can find them that is. Would they help?

I would think so. I use mine all the time when hubby is watching tv in the same room.

8:44. Wonder if it will start this time?

[MrLucky917B]

I think they delayed the presser until the end of the basketball game:cursing:

[aproudmom]

OMG:crying:
http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

TRACY - Sources within local law enforcement tell FOX40 News the body of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu was recovered from inside a piece of luggage pulled from a drained irrigation ditch north of Tracy.

[Crispy]

Cameras are turning away from podium towards the back of the room....family maybe?

[PBJMOM4]

:confused: What do you mean?

thanks

imo

I apologize, I clicked alink that took me to the cover page stating something like "Father accused"
(That apparently was for a different storym where a Father stabbed his son I believe}
Again, I typed BEFORE I read!
Sorry!

[adpilove]

I think those women crying in that room are a CLEAR indication of what's coming our way.

[aproudmom]

Oh! That is an interesting thought.

We can only hope
Authorities have not made any arrests in the case, although their investigation has focused on several persons of interest

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Sources-Sandra-Cantus-Body-Recove=1&blockID=260015&feedID=190

[5boxersmom]

Looks like a man is on twitter sitting in front of the podium.

[adpilove]

Why do I keep hearing people laughing in that room? Are you kidding me? Is this a night to be laughing out loud? Come on now.

[Destini]

I think those women crying in that room are a CLEAR indication of what's coming our way.

Were those family members?

[Taybug]

I literally have tears after seeing those women at the back of the room. Were any of those women her mother and/or sister(s)? This is horrible. :crying:

[~jomomma~]

I can't help but hope they are late with the PC because they are in the process of an arrest.

i hope it's not one of her parents


someone mentioned a b-ball game? is it almost over? gosh, i hope that's not what they're waiting for

[SwFlorida]

I literally have tears after seeing those women at the back of the room. Were any of those women her mother and/or sister(s)? This is horrible. :crying:

I think they were.

[5boxersmom]

Looks like a man is on twitter sitting in front of the podium.

As soon as I posted this he put his computer away and got on the phone. :biggrin: Maybe he was reading here.

[Luckys_Wife]

I don't understand how the reporters can laugh and carry on like their doing. Maybe I'm a little sensitive right now, but I find their behavior offensive. IMOO

[psbperu]

I know these people are working but don't they realize they are on live video...? They sound like this is a picnic or something.

[5boxersmom]

i hope it's not one of her parents


someone mentioned a b-ball game? is it almost over? gosh, i hope that's not what they're waiting for

It's over. NC won.

[Dietcokefan]

They are reporting on our local news that her remains have been located in a container in a pond.

[darjeeling]

Sorry for shouting but can someone update us on important details from the presser? My livestream link is very dodgy and keeps on freezing. TIA.

[Luckys_Wife]

PC in 3 minutes

[Taybug]

Sorry for shouting but can someone update us on important details from the presser? My livestream link is very dodgy and keeps on freezing. TIA.

Yes. It hasn't started yet.

[lune3]

I hope they have so much evidence from the site that they get this savage tonight. It's unspeakable that people like this walk the earth.

I don't understand how people in the room can laugh at a time like this.

[IlliniFan]

i hope it's not one of her parents


someone mentioned a b-ball game? is it almost over? gosh, i hope that's not what they're waiting for

NCAA Basketball championship,,,,it's over tho

[Luckys_Wife]

Our local news is reporting that Sandra Cantu's body HAS been found!

[Dietcokefan]

They've just began having scrolling messages across local staions with the breaking news. I heard earlier tonight that they were investigating the suspicious container at an aqueduct...now they are saying her remains were located in the containter at a pond.

[aproudmom]

I think those women crying in that room are a CLEAR indication of what's coming our way.

is it crying was not going to say it thought maybe someone had a laugh that sounded that way..but sounded more like a cry to me..o good lord can not wait to much longer may have to jump back on and see what the presser said.. my kids keep telling me this is why I have panic attacks..they may be right..:crying:

[adpilove]

I know these people are working but don't they realize they are on live video...? They sound like this is a picnic or something.

SERIOUSLY, they ought to be ashamed of themselves!

[aproudmom]

does not look good

[aproudmom]

omg RIP Sweet Sandra I hope someone rots in Prison..how could anyone do this..:crying:

[5boxersmom]

:sad:It is her.

[IlliniFan]

Bless this family....sweet baby...

[adpilove]

Please Lord watch over this family!

[SwFlorida]

She was still wearing her clothes.

[GumShoeJoe]

Q&A at Press Conference: LE Officer: she was identified by the clothes she was last seen wearing.

[oxfordfox]

they just confirmed that there was a body in the suitcase and it was Sandra. Poor little girl.

[lune3]

The police chief was on the verge of tears, could barely get the words out of her mouth when she had to say it. Oh my god, this is horrible.

[psbperu]

Was hoping against hope that the bag did not contain this sweet child.

[Former Juror]

She was still wearing her clothes.

I don't think an SO would have redressed her, so I think this is a huge clue.

RIP, Sweet Sandra. :rose:

[Taybug]

Did a reporter just ask if she was pulled apart and he answered "yes"? Please tell me no.

MOO

[Crispy]

ID's by the clothes she was seen last wearing...nothing in the suitcase....won't know until autopsy complete...won't know how long in water.

Searchers were there last weekend and this weekend, the bag was submerged...no identifying marks on the bag, large type of rolling luggage...body fully clothed..conducting autopsy in morning...family notified prior to the conference...asks for patience and compassion for family.

[Crispy]

The pond has been filled for at least two weeks....no information on the condition of the remains...no comment on specifics of investigation

[psbperu]

I don't think they are going to reveal any evidence found in the search of the surrounding area.

[~jomomma~]

unbelievable

[aproudmom]

I can not imagine the pain this family is going through I am glad they have their baby back but I sure hope they find who did this and they go away forever..I still think someone in that park took her luggage to me does not mean anything such as the motel being close..jmo

RIP Sandra AMERICA loves you

[threesnugbugs]

Did he say she was still wearing her clothes? Or maybe the clothes were in the suitcase with the remains? I know he said she was ID'd through clothing, but there was a sound blip and I couldn't understand it he said the clothes she was wearing.

If she's still wearing her clothing, this is a very odd case, and hard to understand. And different than what I am suspecting.


I didn't hear fully clothed either, and I was left wondering by statements made, if she was clothed, or just some clothing was on, or in the suitcase.

[loretta]

Bless her heart...She is with the Angels now.

[Squidward]

prayers for Sandra and family :crying:

CATCH THIS MONSTER!!

[emdragon]

\lm/ sweet one. Rest in peace..

[Crispy]

can't comment on how it was sealed or if there was a red ? on the bag...spent hours combing area around pond..a lot of things looked at, photographed....trace evidence that could be on or in the bag that is why they waited to open. Area has been farmed repeatedly, farm crews out there off and on for several days that is a concern....found lots of footprints and tire tracks can't say if they will lead anywhere. don't know if she was redressed. 3:30 PC tomorrow. advise parents in Tracy to do the same thing as always..watch your children and give them a hug tonight

[Pinetree]

She was fully clothed in the clothes she was last seen wearing. Nothing in the suitcase but her.....large, rolling type suitcase.

RIP sweet Sandra....

[5boxersmom]

Presser is over.

Said to watch your children and give them a hug tonight.

[VC2]

can't comment.
don't have that info.
prior to us coming here

can't hear the questions, but those were his answers

Unimaginable loss for the family. asking press to be patient and compassionate toward family.

cant answer, until results of autopsy
this morning during the course of normal farming operations they were draining pond.

info is that pond was full for the past 2 wks.
that is correct
correct
that's what I was told
don't have any info about condition of Sandra until autopsy is completed
we'll work hard as possible to bring person or persons involved to justice
this evening? because of notification to the family

I don't know, that'll be up to coroner
we're continuing to talk to many people. waiting for results of investigation relating to where she was found today before we can....

I can't hear the questions

difficult for everyone involved. we were hoping to find sandra
I don't know
I can't comment on that

thanks adalena. so dressed...not a normal SO thing to do but possible..my mind goes to the grandfather though. Especially using a suitcase instead of a garbage bag, something "protective" of the body.

imo

[koawally]

:rose: Another precious girl...gone to soon

:sad:

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[SwFlorida]

RIP Sandra Cantu..

[rosieposett]

Hi rosie
did someone say it came across twitter it was her????????

Hi ProudMom. Yes she has been identified by her clothing. I am hoping they get a lot of evidence so they can arrest whoever did this to her. Poor child. Poor Family.

[BobbysGirl]

I have been trying to keep up w/ news.

They found Sandra's body? I cannot link to any sites posted and nothing on news as of now.

Sad, so very sad. I did not want to hear any more news about a child/children dead.

God Bless the family. I am so angry. I hate to read and post, any more. Breaks my heart?

Does the LE have any idea who did this?

BG

:rose:

[lune3]

I can't believe this, just can't.
sweet Sandra rest in peace, prayers for the family

[SwFlorida]

Did I hear that there would be a PC tomorrow at 3? :shrug:

[emdragon]

My cat died a week ago I am just going to believe he went ahead to meet her and be her cuddly friend...

My heart is breaking and tears are falling- this one haunted me from day one, there was something about her there was something so familiar about her.

But thanks God at least she has been found.

[Crispy]

Did I hear that there would be a PC tomorrow at 3? :shrug:

I thought he said 3:30 ?

[Taybug]

RIP Sandra :rose: You will be missed.

[royals02]

I understand the media has a job to do...however some of their questions so obviously cannot be answered...Now I just hope that they leave the family alone to grieve.:sad:

[SwFlorida]

I thought he said 3:30 ?
Thanks.. I'll be ready..

[5boxersmom]

My cat died a week ago I am just going to believe he went ahead to meet her and be her cuddly friend...

My heart is breaking and tears are falling- this one haunted me from day one, there was something about her there was something so familiar about her.

But thanks God at least she has been found.

I am sorry. You could be right. They are together now in Heaven.


RIP Sweet Little Sandra :rose:

[CC I See]

I wouldn't automaticaly assume anything based on fact she was wearing clothes. I've seen cases where the murderer re-dressed the victim before dumping their body.

So have I. The Perpetrator was going to let the child go home after threatening her to not tell what happened, but she started crying and he panicked so she was killed. The child was fully dressed and about to walk out the door when it happened.

[lune3]

The suitcase HAS to be traced to someone, just has to. I wonder if the interior of the suitcase could still have fingerprints.

[nanieliz]

Another Angel got her wings to soon!


Prayers for her family.


Prayers for LE.

[IlliniFan]

Didn't that luggage/garment bag have a red ribbon around it? Odd..

[GentleBreeze]

Did I hear that there would be a PC tomorrow at 3? :shrug:

3:30 pm tomorrow

[teresa]

RIP pretty Sandra. I pray for your family to have strength.

Thank you beautiful people for caring the way you do.

[darjeeling]

Thanks for updates on the presser.

I had hoped for a different ending but if we can't have her back alive, I hope justice will be done.

:rose::rose:

[sunstar]

:rose:Rest in Peace, sweet angel, Sandra.:rose:


Prayers for Sandra's family and that LE will find whoever did this horrible thing.

[GentleBreeze]

Didn't that luggage/garment bag have a red ribbon around it? Odd..

In fact he said nothing was unique about the bag.

imo

[Taybug]

Didn't that luggage/garment bag have a red ribbon around it? Odd..


When asked the LE officer said he didn't know, IIRC.

MOO

[IlliniFan]

In fact he said nothing was unique about the bag.

imo

hmm. I thought it was in an article earlier...? well, strike that then...

[psbperu]

It is so early in this investigation now that she has been found..I don't think LE is going to release much information.

[aproudmom]

Presser is over.

Said to watch your children and give them a hug tonight.

I just hugged mine they don't like it since they are boys and 13 and 19 but I kiss them and hug them everyday and never go a day without saying I love you..god bless this family and I have hope they will find this person or persons who did this I for one do not think a SO did this why put the clothes on..o don't even like saying that..I know he did not say they were on her but to me that tells me a lot..so sad her poor family..

as far as footprints and tire tracks they have had searches out there it will be so hard to pin point who's is who's...I guess no dogs were out there or if they were they never picked up a scent or she may not have been in there all this time I think imo she has been there just did not notice it until it was drained did they maybe ask them to drain it..one report said they had a tip so perhaps it was ask to be drained but if that is true why would LE not have been there before they were called...

presser at 3 tomorrow right?

[~jomomma~]

Didn't that luggage/garment bag have a red ribbon around it? Odd..

that's what we've heard all afternoon but when he was asked, i think he said he didn't know?

[BobbysGirl]

My cat died a week ago I am just going to believe he went ahead to meet her and be her cuddly friend...

My heart is breaking and tears are falling- this one haunted me from day one, there was something about her there was something so familiar about her.

But thanks God at least she has been found.

Good Lord, Sorry about your cat. For past 3 days we have been caring and nurturing a feral cat in our yard. Gave birth to kittens under our shed.

I pray the for the family. My heart aches and am emotional between the new life and now a death of another innocent child.

No words can really explain how I feel.

BG

[GentleBreeze]

The suitcase HAS to be traced to someone, just has to. I wonder if the interior of the suitcase could still have fingerprints.

I am hoping that it has trace evidence in it like fibers from his clothing or hairs that he may have left behind.

The officer said the bag was nondescript and nothing made it unique. So I say probably a cheaper one bought at Walmart or some place like that.

imo

[psbperu]

It IS odd, you're right. If the zipper was in working order, and the ribbon wasn't needed to actually seal the suitcase closed, a red ribbon is VERY odd.

Like, a loved one would do.

This child was not killed by a sexual predator. But by someone who loved her.

Is it a fact that it is a red ribbon? Could it have been one of those straps that you use around luggage?

I don't know, just asking.

[IlliniFan]

It IS odd, you're right. If the zipper was in working order, and the ribbon wasn't needed to actually seal the suitcase closed, a red ribbon is VERY odd.

Like, a loved one would do.

This child was not killed by a sexual predator. But by someone who loved her.


Rachel, earlier information indicated the red ribbon, apparently LE said there was nothing unusual about it?? So, I don't know..

[~jomomma~]

Flash back to Baby Grace, Riley Ann Sawyers, from Houston this year.

Fully clothed, beaten to death, placed in a container and dumped in the water by her mother and her new husband.

I don't think this case is as I thought it was - that a pedophile abducted her and molested her.

This is something different from that.

i'm right there with you Rachel. i won't say what i'm thinking tonight.

as much as my heart breaks for Sandra, i'm just glad she's been found.

:crying:

[GentleBreeze]

I wonder if that means the clothes were in the bag with her but not on her, or if it means they were on the body.

It's really sick these horrible people can't be stopped by better means than what society has.

I got the impression she had her clothes on.

imo

[kelloggirl]

Just watched the press conference. At first, I had talked myself into believing it wasn't her, but throughout the late afternoon and early evening it became clearer that it was more than likely her, but hearing the news officially was like a punch in the gut. :crying:

I don't believe she ever made it out of that mobile park alive. However, I don't suspect the family at all, however I do think it was someone that knew her and felt bad about what they did afterwards. I think the suitcase would be an easy means of getting her out of there without arousing that much suspicion.

I have a good feeling (the only one) that they will find out who did this relatively quickly. I feel LE has a lot of good leads and that limited pool/ narrow focus of the mobile park as the highest probability of containing the suspect will help a great deal.

It could be as easy as someone's wife or family member noticing a missing piece of luggage. If their really was a red ribbon, it may not be significant other than just an identifying characteristic of the suitcase. A lot of people tie a ribbon or something around their suitcase handle to help them identify it when comes out of the baggage claim since so many bags look alike.

For Sandra and her family :rose:

[IlliniFan]

Is it a fact that it is a red ribbon? Could it have been one of those straps that you use around luggage?

I don't know, just asking.

LE didn't indicate any red ribbon or strap this evening. It was mentioned earlier in the day. I wouldn't rely on that as fact, now anyway...imo

[GentleBreeze]

hmm. I thought it was in an article earlier...? well, strike that then...

Now I don't know about the red ribbon. I couldn't hear what he said about that but the bag itself seems to be a generic one and has no uniqueness, like I had so hoped it would.

imo

[~jomomma~]

now i need to go to bed.

RIP sweet Sandra :crying:

[Taybug]

As stated before .. when asked about a "red band" being around the luggage, the LE officer said he didn't know.

[darjeeling]

I think the culprit is a relatively big guy in decent physical shape because it has to be someone strong enough to lug a 50-pound suitcase into the middle of a large irrigation ditch. I also wonder about the suitcase. I think they will be able to trace it with all the resources that they have nowdays.

Does anyone remember whether there is a surveillance camera at the entrance of the mobile park?

[GentleBreeze]

Just watched the press conference. At first, I had talked myself into believing it wasn't her, but throughout the late afternoon and early evening it became clearer that it was more than likely her, but hearing the news officially was like a punch in the gut. :crying:

I don't believe she ever made it out of that mobile park alive. However, I don't suspect the family at all, however I do think it was someone that knew her and felt bad about what they did afterwards. I think the suitcase would be an easy means of getting her out of there without arousing that much suspicion.

I have a good feeling (the only one) that they will find out who did this relatively quickly. I feel LE has a lot of good leads and that limited pool/ narrow focus of the mobile park as the highest probability of containing the suspect will help a great deal.

It could be as easy as someone's wife or family member noticing a missing piece of luggage. If their really was a red ribbon, it may not be significant other than just an identifying characteristic of the suitcase. A lot of people tie a ribbon or something around their suitcase handle to help them identify it when comes out of the baggage claim since so many bags look alike.

For Sandra and her family :rose:

If I were LE I would have a forensic photographer take a very good clear picture of the bag and run it in the media. It may have a dent or a scratch that someone would know right off.

No one goes around and is all of a sudden missing a piece of luggage especially if they haven't even been on a trip anywhere.



imoo

[cat3]

Rest In Peace Sandra.After following so many of these missing children cases it still shocks me that people could do the things they do.
Such a sweet looking little girl.

[Squidward]

LE didn't indicate any red ribbon or strap this evening. It was mentioned earlier in the day. I wouldn't rely on that as fact, now anyway...imo

I wouldn't either in the pictures of the bag earlier I did not gsee a red ribbon.

sorry for typing errors, very mad right now, I hope they catch this MONSTER soon, sick of people preying on children.

so sad :sad:

RIP Sandra
:rose:

[IlliniFan]

As stated before .. when asked about a "red band" being around the luggage, the LE officer said he didn't know.

Was that a question in the PC? Honestly, I couldn't even hear the questions...?

[Taybug]

I think the culprit is a relatively big guy in decent physical shape because it has to be someone strong enough to lug a 50-pound suitcase into the middle of a large irrigation ditch. I also wonder about the suitcase. I think they will be able to trace it with all the resources that they have nowdays.

Does anyone remember whether there is a surveillance camera at the entrance of the mobile park?

I don't know that it was confirmed but I remember reading on here some time ago that there was a surveillance camera at the entrance. Anyone have a link to that info?

MOO