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[paddy01]

SANDRA CANTU 8 Year Old Girl, Missing 3/27/09 From Tracy, CA

Endangered Missing
SANDRA CANTU
DOB: Mar 8, 2001
Missing: Mar 27, 2009

Age Now: 8
Sex: Female
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Race: Hispanic
Height: 4'0" (122 cm)
Weight: 45 lbs (20 kg)

Missing From:
TRACY, CA

Sandra was last seen on March 27, 2009. She may still be in the local area. Sandra was last seen wearing a pink Hello Kitty shirt and a striped dress.

ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)

Tracy Police Department (California) 1-209-831-4550

Link:http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US

I'm not sure if I started thread correctly.

[paddy01]

Paddy, I couldn't get your links to work.

Trying again with the second one - maybe this will take this time.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/8-Year-Old-Girl-Missing-in-Tracy.html


RR, thanks for letting me know about link, darn there's no edit button!:confused:

[paddy01]

Police have searched all night. The FBI, California Highway Patrol, San Joaquin Sheriff's Office, Stanislaus County Sheriff's Office, Tracy Volunteers in Police Services, Tracy Community Emergency Response Team, Tracy Fire Department and National Center for Missing and Exploited Children are helping in the investigation.



I just realized that I haven't seen an Amber Alert issued for Sandra. You would think with all of the above agency's looking for her that one would have been issued already. :confused:

[Danette44]

All these young girls missing, they also have a 15 yr old teen from Stockton, that's only about 30 minutes from Tracy and they think it was an abduction, that happen today, I'm not good at post a new link, but the story is on the same page as this young girl's story.....hope they are both found safe!

[n/t]

Paddy, she doesn't fit the criteria for an Amber Alert.

To activate an alert, a witness has to have actually witnessed an abduction, and be able to describe the car and perpetrator.

I don't understand these Amber Alerts criterias. Are they different in every state or what?

Haleigh Cummings has an Amber Alert and there is absolutely no description of an abductor or vehicle. As a matter of fact, they can't even rule if it was indeed an abduction. I just don't get it.

I think once it's determined a child is in danger, an Amber Alert should be issued. Period.

It just makes me so angry because we know Amber Alerts are very effective and a child's life can be saved.

[n/t]

Another article with pics, not much news, from the Tracy Press.

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17659/2268/

The details are still so sketchy. Was she actually ever seen in the trailer park after school? They keep saying she was supposed to be at her friend's house, but she "wasn't found" there. What does that even mean?

The only thing that I can come up with is perhaps Sandra was supposed to go to her friend's house after school and have sleep over but she never showed up. Something must've happened on her way over there. I hope they clear that up soon.

I'd like to know if this friend was with her after school. Did Sandra change her mind and was headed home instead? Did something happen at the friend's house and Sandra left? Did the girls have an argument and Sandra decided to go home?

[n/t]

I just finished reading the updated link and apparently she was at this friend's house but headed home?? Why are there so many conflicting reports? :confused:

[n/t]

All these young girls missing, they also have a 15 yr old teen from Stockton, that's only about 30 minutes from Tracy and they think it was an abduction, that happen today, I'm not good at post a new link, but the story is on the same page as this young girl's story.....hope they are both found safe!

Hi Danette,

I'll start a new thread for Cynthia Medina. Not much online that I could find though except that one story. :sad:

[msgatorslayer]

All these young girls missing, they also have a 15 yr old teen from Stockton, that's only about 30 minutes from Tracy and they think it was an abduction, that happen today, I'm not good at post a new link, but the story is on the same page as this young girl's story.....hope they are both found safe!

:sad: I feel asleep lastnight watching MSNBC's special on human trafficing. Eye opening on so many levels.

I hope both girls are found safe. :rose:

[msgatorslayer]

I don't understand these Amber Alerts criterias. Are they different in every state or what?

Haleigh Cummings has an Amber Alert and there is absolutely no description of an abductor or vehicle. As a matter of fact, they can't even rule if it was indeed an abduction. I just don't get it.

I think once it's determined a child is in danger, an Amber Alert should be issued. Period.

It just makes me so angry because we know Amber Alerts are very effective and a child's life can be saved.

The criteria is suppose to be the same for all but I've noticed that it is not. Sometimes there is a missing child alert, other times, Amber Alert.

I think it is iffy when it is teenager compared to a small child. JMO

[Kip]

Just recently updated..

http://www.ktvu.com/news/19037015/detail.html#-


Sandra Cantu, a second grader from Jacobsen Elementary, was last seen around 4 p.m. Friday afternoon after leaving her neighbor's house in the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park.

“We saw her yesterday at our house,” said neighbor Nahum Diaz. “She was playing with my 5-year-old sister. Then she left, she told her she had to go do her homework, and I didn't see her anymore.”


Apparently she was there at the neighbors and left to go home.. but never made it there...

Hopefully they find her safe and unharmed.

I think I'd question the 15-year-old neighbor. What 8-year-old has to go home to do homework on a Friday night? Maybe Sandra said that to leave gracefully because she just didn't want to play with the 5-year-old anymore, but something just doesn't sound right about it.

[n/t]

The criteria is suppose to be the same for all but I've noticed that it is not. Sometimes there is a missing child alert, other times, Amber Alert.

I think it is iffy when it is teenager compared to a small child. JMO

I agree that it's iffy when it's a teenager but Sandra is 8 years old.

Even the way they treat missing teens is wrong, imo. They don't all runaway. LE is so quick to dismiss them as runaways. Amber Dubois case was an eye opener. Her poor parents had to hire a private investigator because LE wasn't doing anything to find her even after repeatedly telling them there was no reason to believe she ran off.

I pray for them all and hope they're found safe soon. I can't imagine the unbelievable heartache these parents are going through. :sad:

[n/t]

http://www.foxreno.com/news/19037015/detail.html

Here's a snip from above link
"The family told KTVU about an incident at the mobile home park pool two years ago, when a middle aged male resident came up to the then 6-year-old kissed her on the mouth."

Police say they've searched several homes in the mobile home park and have no persons of interest and no evidence of an abduction.



I'm curious if this middle aged male still lives in the park!?

I hope the family is able to give LE a description of this creep.

[Danette44]

Hi Danette,

I'll start a new thread for Cynthia Medina. Not much online that I could find though except that one story. :sad:


Hi n/t Thank you - she is a pretty girl also and Hispanic, those are not bad towns at all, I grew up around there and still have friends there. It is very sad, these young girls missing and police aren't saying much. O/T - on AMW tonight is a neighbor that was killed 20 minutes before she was due to walk out of the store and retire.....I see her husband and son almost everyday and they are so upset no arrest made yet. Linda wasn't even suppose to work that night - she came in for a young guy that didn't want to work......prayers we find Linda's killer....:(

[msgatorslayer]

Here's an update from 20 minutes ago.

She came home from school around 3, and left to go to her friend's trailer.

She left there around 4 and was seen around 4 outside her own trailer, doesn't say who saw her.

Then, she was gone. Narrowing down the timeline is SO HELPFUL for those who might have clawing suspicions.

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=56978&provider=top

I wonder why they are not saying who it was that saw her last. Weird!!

[aproudmom]

SANDRA CANTU 8 Year Old Girl, Missing 3/27/09 From Tracy, CA

Endangered Missing
SANDRA CANTU
DOB: Mar 8, 2001
Missing: Mar 27, 2009

Age Now: 8
Sex: Female
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Race: Hispanic
Height: 4'0" (122 cm)
Weight: 45 lbs (20 kg)

Missing From:
TRACY, CA

Sandra was last seen on March 27, 2009. She may still be in the local area. Sandra was last seen wearing a pink Hello Kitty shirt and a striped dress.

ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)

Tracy Police Department (California) 1-209-831-4550

Link:http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US

I'm not sure if I started thread correctly.

Thanks for opening this I just saw it on Fox news alert. I pray she is found safe.

[aproudmom]

Paddy, she doesn't fit the criteria for an Amber Alert.

To activate an alert, a witness has to have actually witnessed an abduction, and be able to describe the car and perpetrator.

True but also sad:sad:

[paddy01]

More details here. A video camera mounted on Sandra Cantu's mobile home filmed the girl running down the street to play and also she apparently told one of her friends she was running away.

Odd for an 8 year old to say something like that.:sad:



http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090329/A_NEWS/903290310


It also states in article at link:She also wasn't seen leaving Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, whose entrance at 812 W. Clover Road also is monitored by security camera, said Sandra's cousin, Janet Anderson.

My guess is Sandra's still in the park or was put in a car...:sad:

[n/t]

Are there any ponds, lakes, rivers in the area?

[n/t]

It also states in article at link:She also wasn't seen leaving Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, whose entrance at 812 W. Clover Road also is monitored by security camera, said Sandra's cousin, Janet Anderson.

My guess is Sandra's still in the park or was put in a car...:sad:

If true about her wanting to run away maybe she got in a car with a stranger. Highly unlikely but who knows. I question why an 8 year old would even think to run away in the first place. :sad:

[KKKKKKatie]

If true about her wanting to run away maybe she got in a car with a stranger. Highly unlikely but who knows. I question why an 8 year old would even think to run away in the first place. :sad:

I question that also n/t. She is a year younger than my grandson....he would be scared to death to go off his own street alone. Can't imagine him going off elsewhere on his own at 8.

I truly hope they find this little one alive and well!

[Cheri_G]

I don't understand these Amber Alerts criterias. Are they different in every state or what?

Haleigh Cummings has an Amber Alert and there is absolutely no description of an abductor or vehicle. As a matter of fact, they can't even rule if it was indeed an abduction. I just don't get it.

I think once it's determined a child is in danger, an Amber Alert should be issued. Period.

It just makes me so angry because we know Amber Alerts are very effective and a child's life can be saved.

Hi n/t,

They do vary state to state. This is California's criteria:

AMBER ALERT Guidelines

AMBER ALERT may be activated only by law enforcement agencies.
AMBER ALERT is intended only for the most serious, time-critical child abduction cases.
AMBER ALERT is not intended for cases involving runaways or parental abduction, except in life-threatening situations.


Criteria for activating an AMBER ALERT
Law enforcement agencies ensure these conditions are met before activating an AMBER ALERT:

The investigating law enforcement agency confirms an abduction has occurred.
The victim is 17 years of age or younger, or has a proven mental or physical disability.
The victim is in imminent danger of serious injury or death.
There is information available that, if provided to the public, could assist in the child's safe recovery.
http://www.chp.ca.gov/amber/index.html

[Pinetree]

Do all the mobile homes have video cameras mounted on them, or just hers? Did the family put it there?? Are any of her things missing?? Clothes...whatever else an 8 year old would take when running away?

[darjeeling]

I really wish they would issue an Amber Alert for Sandra so her case can get the media attention it deserves. As it is, there is very little in the news about her today.

[Luckys_Wife]

I really wish they would issue an Amber Alert for Sandra so her case can get the media attention it deserves. As it is, there is very little in the news about her today.

I agree Darjeeling..this should be all over the local and national news being that she's an eight year old child that's been missing since Friday. I didn't even hear about her missing until I came on here last night, and I live near Tracy. In fact we drove through there yesterday on our way home from Santa Cruz. Nothing on the radio either. Strange. I hope she's found soon.

[paddy01]

snip: Here's what a neighbor had to say about Sandra

Alfred Costello, who has lived near the family for three years, said she has helped him with chores around his yard, and has baked with his wife. He said last week Sandra came over and played with his granddaughter.

"She's the type of girl who's looking for a lot of love," he said, adding that he feared she would be easily persuaded to go off with a stranger. "She would go," Costello said. "No hesitation. I know her."


"]http://http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12024823 (http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12024823[/url)

This just sends chills through me...:sad:

[Heidi J.]

snip: Here's what a neighbor had to say about Sandra

Alfred Costello, who has lived near the family for three years, said she has helped him with chores around his yard, and has baked with his wife. He said last week Sandra came over and played with his granddaughter.

"She's the type of girl who's looking for a lot of love," he said, adding that he feared she would be easily persuaded to go off with a stranger. "She would go," Costello said. "No hesitation. I know her."


"]http://http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12024823 (http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12024823[/url)

This just sends chills through me...:sad:

You got that right.. me too..

[dulcinea]

Has LE searched each home in the park? According to an earlier post, she was not captured on camera leaving the trailer park. I say bring in the dogs and go door-to-door.

[merical]

Looks like they are doing everything they can.:sad:

It sure does and they've turned up empty-handed. Doesn't sound too promising, does it? Poor baby. The problem is that although they have set up a checkpoint at the entrance of the mobile home park, and are checking trunks, she was probably long gone by the time they set it up. So scary.

[BevAnn]

Bless her little heart. :crying: I hope they search and DOUBLE search every home, every shed, every square inch of that trailer park. Because I believe something happened right in that park to this poor sweet little angel.

Bev

[BevAnn]

I bet that poor grandfather never realized when he installed those cameras, how important they would turn out to be. :sad:

She's in that park some where...or very close by. I hope they find her soon.

[darjeeling]

According to an update on a local TV station, the authorities told a reporter that they have some "credible" leads on the case from a tipline. No further details on the leads but there will be another vigil tonight.

[Riverwalk!]

Sgt. Tony S on CNN's Headline news

Spoke with the man that kissed Sandra several years ago on Sat. He is a resident of the MH park still.

Have survel. tape provided by mom and it established the time line for LE

Over 200 tips and having a hard time keeping up with them.

Mom (Maria Chavez) pleading to bring her daughter home.

Show will repeat in about 1 hour or less. So sad. :sad:

[n/t]

Sgt. Tony S on CNN's Headline news

Spoke with the man that kissed Sandra several years ago on Sat. He is a resident of the MH park still.

Have survel. tape provided by mom and it established the time line for LE

Over 200 tips and having a hard time keeping up with them.

Mom (Maria Chavez) pleading to bring her daughter home.

Show will repeat in about 1 hour or less. So sad. :sad:


Hi Riverwalk,

Did you see the photos of Sandra shown on TV. Her hair looks so much lighter than in the original pic. It really caught my attentiion how different she looked.

Praying Sandra is found soon. :rose:

[n/t]

Family Says Tracy Girl Was Likely Abducted


http://www.kcra.com/news/19043413/detail.html



Makes me ill to think some perv has her! Praying that she's found safe.

How weird. Not sure if they updated the story in the link you just posted but police think this is not an abduction? :confused:

Girl's Disappearance Not Considered Abduction

TRACY, Calif. -- Police said Monday that an 8-year-old Tracy girl's disappearance is being considered a missing persons case and not an abduction.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19043413/detail.html



ETA: The photo in this link shows what appears to be blonde highlighted hair and not brown.

[paddy01]

How weird. Not sure if they updated the story in the link you just posted but police think this is not an abduction? :confused:

Girl's Disappearance Not Considered Abduction



http://www.kcra.com/news/19043413/detail.html



ETA: The photo in this link shows what appears to be blonde highlighted hair and not brown.


It was a paragraph in the article from the above link, the family states that they think it was an abduction. Sorry, I should have made my post more clear. :blushing:

[n/t]

It was a paragraph in the article from the above link, the family states that they think it was an abduction. Sorry, I should have made my post more clear. :blushing:

No need to be sorry. :smile: So the family believes it's an abduction but the police don't think it is? She's 8 years old! What do they think happened to her? Even if she wanted to run away, someone obviously took her.

Sometimes LE puzzles me. Is that the reason they haven't issued an Amber Alert? I try to give LE the benefit of the doubt but it's becoming so difficult when they come out with these statements without giving us a reason to believe in them.

[Maelstrom5]

Hi All,

Here is the updated NCMEC poster with both pictures of Sandra.
Endangered Missing Alert: SANDRA CANTU from TRACY CA United States: http://tinyurl.com/dd43ef

I agree with you the two pictures look very different which many times can be the case. As a example take a look at the many faces of Morgan Shonfelt a teen missing from Tucson, Arizona
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2107074&imageID=31067859

[paddy01]

No need to be sorry. :smile: So the family believes it's an abduction but the police don't think it is? She's 8 years old! What do they think happened to her? Even if she wanted to run away, someone obviously took her.

Sometimes LE puzzles me. Is that the reason they haven't issued an Amber Alert? I try to give LE the benefit of the doubt but it's becoming so difficult when they come out with these statements without giving us a reason to believe in them.


I know what you mean, and I asked the same question regarding Amber Alert not being issued. Personally I think Amber Alert should be issued immediatley for children this young. IMO, it shouldn't matter whether someone saw an abduction! I will never believe that this little girl ran away, nor do I believe that Adji Desir left on his own accord... :(

[paddy01]

Snippet:

Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman said they have received more than 150 tips so far, with investigators believing that a handful of them are credible.

``We have no evidence to indicate she's been harmed and is not alive,'' Sheneman said. ``So it is our belief that she's alive and unharmed.''

Cadaver dogs picked up a scent Sunday morning along a river north of Tracy, Sheneman said. Divers searched the water while others searched along the water line. He said there was no sign anyone had been there and nothing was found.

link:http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_12030198?source=most_viewed


WTH, does that mean!?

[ttcRider]

great to see NG covering this story. Hopefully this will bring new leads.

[merical]

Okay, so on the one hand, the dogs picked up the scent of a cadaver but nobody found a body, yet they think the child is alive? Okay, so we should assume a dead body was there at one time and has been moved? How do they know its not her?

Nancy Grace just showed a map of the area and there are approximately 78 registered sex offenders within a 6 mile radius of the mobile home park. Not good.

So sad.

[merical]

sorry, forgot to add, the mother knows the child went to a friends house to play but the child left that house and went to another child's house after that. The mother is unaware of whether or not the child reached that house. Didn't they question the occupants of the house? Maybe they weren't home? Why would the mother not know if the occupants had seen her child? That part of NG interview seems odd. Not suggesting Sandra's parents are involved, I just wonder why the LE hasn't told her anything??

[merical]

A caller on NG had a good question. She asked if the mother had seen the registered sex offender list, if perhaps she might know one of them, see a familiar name on it. She indicated that she had not seen the list and the LE had not provided her with it. That seems odd. I would think that would be on the top of the LE list, then again, I don't know the standard operating procedure in something like this.

[~jomomma~]

how sad :sad:

she's a beautiful girl. hope she's found safe.

[merical]

One article stated she went to a different friend's house, no one was home but because of that it's unknown whether she actually made it to the house or not.

Okay, that makes sense, thanks for clearing that one up for me, I was confused.:huh:

[ttcRider]

One article stated she went to a different friend's house, no one was home but because of that it's unknown whether she actually made it to the house or not.

I see... well wouldnt the other friend know approximately when Sandra left to go there? I guess I need to keep reminding myself these are just little kids, 8 yrs old. It must be hard to get a good time line.:sad:

[Track292003]

Greta interviewed (by phone) a police officer in Tracy who's working Sandra's case. He said that search warrants are being issued "as we speak." They hope to get some information that MAY lead them to Sandra rather than hoping to find her at the location(s) that they're searching....or words to that effect.

I hope there's encouraging news in the morning; the officer was quite open about the matter.

JMO

The woman beside the mother (on TV) was described as a family spokesperson.

[doctor_J]

That was as odd appearance on NG. I just assumed the mom was overcome with emotion and couldn't speak. The lady in blue beside her was the same lady mentioned in the early links as a volunteer who offered her services because she lost her 16 yr old son in a car accident. I don't know if she has any qualifications or just helping because the mom seems incapable of answering questions. Update on Greta. Phone interviews with Sheriff said they were executing search warrants (several) "as we speak".

Sounds like they might know what happened and it's not good. Best I could interpret the legal-speak by LE it's not an abduction because she didn't leave the park. Can it be a kidnapping but not an abduction???
Strange the way LE feel compelled to speak cautiously regarding any suspects or even naming the crime. A lot of that has come about because of the Richard Jewel affair.

No amber alert. All I can think was it would not help. So I'm thinking she's confined to park and they know it. Amber alerts must be very expensive and disruptive because of how hesitant LE are to issue one.

The sheriff sounded very confident to GVS even though he gave no reassuring info. Said nothing about needing the public's help. :confused:

[Riverwalk!]

Hi Riverwalk,

Did you see the photos of Sandra shown on TV. Her hair looks so much lighter than in the original pic. It really caught my attentiion how different she looked.

Praying Sandra is found soon. :rose:

She looks totally different. The lighter hair looks more recent????

Transcripts are up for NG

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/30/ng.01.html

[Track292003]

Doctor J,
I think an Amber Alert is issued only when there is a description of a vehicle that can be included and...as you said...it appears the poor child never left the mobile home park. And, as I said, I hope there's encouraging news in the morning.

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.foxnews.com/ Greta 3/30/09

click on her sweet little face for the video (right hand side)

[merical]

whats the problem with the mother in this case? She can't even take questions asked of her on NG but will show up? She couldn't speak to LE the day before as it was "took upsetting" for her? No I have a problem with the mother. Mercial may not want to say it but I will.

Who is that lady talking next to her, her lawyer?? :eek:

You caught me, actually. I know that when we start pointing fingers it can cause a huge ruckus on the boards, so I thought I'd better not say it. However, I did have a couple of things that bothered me about the mom. Possibly, I'm just getting jaded and would be better off keeping my mouth shut (or hands off the keyboard as the case may be) but she left me a little unsettled. It was the crying, then when asked a question about other children, she immediately stopped crying and calmly answered the question. Does that make her guilty of something? Probably not. It just left me with an odd feeling, and again, I may be totally wrong. I hope I am because its like the boy who cried wolf. If the media puts out info on missing kids that aren't missing, the public becomes less inclined to take it seriously, which puts a whole lot of legitimately missing children in more danger.

I just hope this little one is found safe and sound and whoever did this be caught and punished.:sad:

[ttcRider]

You caught me, actually. I know that when we start pointing fingers it can cause a huge ruckus on the boards, so I thought I'd better not say it. However, I did have a couple of things that bothered me about the mom. Possibly, I'm just getting jaded and would be better off keeping my mouth shut (or hands off the keyboard as the case may be) but she left me a little unsettled. It was the crying, then when asked a question about other children, she immediately stopped crying and calmly answered the question. Does that make her guilty of something? Probably not. It just left me with an odd feeling, and again, I may be totally wrong. I hope I am because its like the boy who cried wolf. If the media puts out info on missing kids that aren't missing, the public becomes less inclined to take it seriously, which puts a whole lot of legitimately missing children in more danger.

I just hope this little one is found safe and sound and whoever did this be caught and punished.:sad:

I'm glad you guys open this up, I was sitting on my hands.. I found that rather odd too the way she was crying and then stopping to answer questions and then starting up again, it was weird. I really try hard to keep an open mind when these cases first break because there are so many conflicting reports and emotions are all running high but like you I think over time I have become so jaded and quickly get suspicious. There is something bugging me about this one, I'm just not sure what it is yet. jmo

[doctor_J]

I found the GF's behavior very disturbing but wasn''t going to get on that soapbox but---he wanted to kill cats and other small animals enough to invest in video surveilance. That's a level of cruelty that can cause a lot of enemies. But no normal person would take revenge in a innocent child. Makes me wonder about cruelty in the household. A lot of people living in one mobile home- that can often lead to domestic abuse. I have a neighbor that keeps saucers of antifreeze in his yard because he doesn't want pets walking on his grass.
Wasn't that episode of a neighbor kissing her on the lips at the pool 2 yrs. ago WEIRD? Noone reported that? Very strange.

I can't get past the sheriff's tone with Greta. He was close-lipped but gave the impression that he had this one sewn up so everyone just calm down....Maybe he's just a confidant guy. He surely had not conveyed any info to the mom,though. I think we will hear something from those SW's soon. I fear it won't be good news.

I agree her pics are very different. Hard to believe those were natural changes in a Hispanic girl's hair.

I have seen Amber Alerts without a car and suspects description. AL is a federal guideline/law. Anyone know a link to criteria?

[n/t]

Investigators Search Six Locations in Cantu Disappearance

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=57068&provider=top

[paddy01]

FBI: Two Persons Of Interest In Missing Girl Case

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has identified two people as persons of interest in the disappearance of an eight-year-old Tracy girl.

Agents searched at least one home in the mobile home park where Sandra Cantu vanished on Friday afternoon, and have searched at least five other locations. The two men, who have not yet been publicly named, are described as residents of different homes in the mobile home park, but are not related to the family.

Authorities are not willing to release any specific evidence that was found or information about why they are investigating the men as persons of interest. The two men have not been detained.

http://cbs13.com/local/girl.missing.tracy.2.972001.html

[n/t]

FBI: Two Persons Of Interest In Missing Girl Case

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has identified two people as persons of interest in the disappearance of an eight-year-old Tracy girl.

Agents searched at least one home in the mobile home park where Sandra Cantu vanished on Friday afternoon, and have searched at least five other locations. The two men, who have not yet been publicly named, are described as residents of different homes in the mobile home park, but are not related to the family.

Authorities are not willing to release any specific evidence that was found or information about why they are investigating the men as persons of interest. The two men have not been detained.

http://cbs13.com/local/girl.missing.tracy.2.972001.html

Gosh, I pray they didn't harm her. :crying:

[aproudmom]

More details here. A video camera mounted on Sandra Cantu's mobile home filmed the girl running down the street to play and also she apparently told one of her friends she was running away.

Odd for an 8 year old to say something like that.:sad:



http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090329/A_NEWS/903290310

n/t I just don't see her running away maybe she got mad and someone grabbed her I have a bad feeling she was kidnapped
her mother was on NG last night. I pray she is found soon. But the stats if abducted they are usually killed within 3 hours of being taken:sad:

[aproudmom]

FBI: Two Persons Of Interest In Missing Girl Case

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has identified two people as persons of interest in the disappearance of an eight-year-old Tracy girl.

Agents searched at least one home in the mobile home park where Sandra Cantu vanished on Friday afternoon, and have searched at least five other locations. The two men, who have not yet been publicly named, are described as residents of different homes in the mobile home park, but are not related to the family.

Authorities are not willing to release any specific evidence that was found or information about why they are investigating the men as persons of interest. The two men have not been detained.

http://cbs13.com/local/girl.missing.tracy.2.972001.html

does anyone have her address I wonder if there is any SO living there did I hear they think she is ok and alive? ok the video makes no since they have reason to think she is alive:confused:

http://cbs13.com/local/girl.missing.tracy.2.972001.html

[Maelstrom5]

Hi All, I am going out on a limb, but I have found the GF’s statements about the surveillance camera strange. In one report they said he got them installed because someone had slashed his car tires recently.

Could this case be similar to a couple of others we followed?

Cole Puffinburger.. Recovered 10/18/08.. Nevada
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2152182&imageID=27582425

Liliana Iboa, and Karen Cervantes.. Recovered 11/10/08.. Arizona
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2152182&imageID=28530041

Could Sandra have been taken in retaliation for something GF did? Could her abduction be a attempt to smoke her father out of hiding?

[n/t]

n/t I just don't see her running away maybe she got mad and someone grabbed her I have a bad feeling she was kidnapped
her mother was on NG last night. I pray she is found soon. But the stats if abducted they are usually killed within 3 hours of being taken:sad:

Why is LE saying it's not an abduction though? I don't get it. From paddy's link, they now have 2 POI's? Did she go to these houses willingly? Did these men befriend her and she trusted them? Maybe they're not related to the family but they could be friends of the family.

I think LE and the family know more than they're saying, imo.

[n/t]

Hi All, I am going out on a limb, but I have found the GF’s statements about the surveillance camera strange. In one report they said he got them installed because someone had slashed his car tires recently.

Could this case be similar to a couple of others we followed?

Cole Puffinburger.. Recovered 10/18/08.. Nevada
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2152182&imageID=27582425

Liliana Iboa, and Karen Cervantes.. Recovered 11/10/08.. Arizona
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2152182&imageID=28530041

Could Sandra have been taken in retaliation for something GF did? Could her abduction be a attempt to smoke her father out of hiding?

Could be, Peter. They installed a camera for a reason. Was someone after the family for some reason? I just pray they didn't harm Sandra for something the GF did, if that's the case. :sad:

[n/t]

Another thing that keeps nagging at me is earlier reports, IIRC, mentioned that Sandra's father was not part of her life. Why is he suddenly appearing after his daughter goes missing? Where was he?

[aproudmom]

Greta interviewed (by phone) a police officer in Tracy who's working Sandra's case. He said that search warrants are being issued "as we speak." They hope to get some information that MAY lead them to Sandra rather than hoping to find her at the location(s) that they're searching....or words to that effect.

I hope there's encouraging news in the morning; the officer was quite open about the matter.

JMO

The woman beside the mother (on TV) was described as a family spokesperson.

So they are getting warrants I take from what they said in a press conf they think she is well and alive. I wonder why they think that or even said it since she has not been found yet. OMG all these missing kids so so sad.

[aproudmom]

I have heard a lot of people on here talk about this and never heard of it but when I googled for new updates this came up anyone here know about this Astrology stuff?
http://www.astrologyexplored.com/
The Missing Person

In the event chart, the moon is 23 degrees of Aries. The asteroid Sandra is at 23 degrees of Aries,

The Location

The trailer park where Sandra lives is a little closed off community, though it is frighteningly close to Interstate 205. (note that the Sun and Venus are at 7 degrees Aries at the time, which 205 reduces to) There is one entrance in and out. In a small community such as this it is logical to assume that the residents would be aware of any unfamiliar persons coming or going.

The Event
In the event chart, the Sun, Venus and Mercury are sitting very close together. Mercury is the friend that Sandra just left, close, but not next to her. Venus and Mercury are three degrees apart. She was reportedly seen around 3:30 PM, but of course the details are being withheld by the police.

Notice that Venus is retrograde which means that it appears to be going backward in its orbit from earth’s perspective. Sandra passed this individual going to the friend’s house, and met the individual coming back to her home. She is with this person at 3:40 PM. She has seen him before. It is likely he isn’t a stranger.

Pluto is in Capricorn, representing a male authority figure. It squares the Sun, Venus and Mercury. Pluto often represents abductions and Capricorn often represents the father. Is is possible that Sandra was abducted by her father?


What Could Be The Outcome?

This is an open police case, so too much speculation is not appropriate. But a chart cast for Noon, March 29 is not entirely unhopeful. The Moon, which had Sandra’s name all over it on Friday, has moved into the sign of Taurus, which is ruled by Venus. This moon is now in easy energetic connection with event Saturn, representing the physical body, which leaves hope that she is alive and well. Her natal Saturn is now in the eleventh house of friends. This is another encouraging sign. Later tonight the transiting natal moon will hit her natal Saturn, and there could be some news regarding her whereabouts. Let’s hope and pray it is positive news.

I have no idea about this stuff but have heard alot of posters talk about it...I just pray she is safe and found soon

[BevAnn]

Well I am so confused now. 2 possible POI, and they think she may be alive. If she's alive, then WTH is she?? Just doesn't make sense.

And the gf with the camera - yes it was because some had slashed his tires in retaliation to his trapping cats. But taking his grand daughter would be such a HUGE step up on the retaliation ladder!! Granted, there are some idiots out there, but geez. I'm not sure someone would go to that extreme. :confused:

I figure the dad coming back into the picture is a 15mins of fame deal. That's just MHO.

Bev

[aproudmom]

Man who kissed missing girl questioned

A man who lived in a trailer behind the one in which Sandra Cantu lives has been questioned three times by police, but he's no more a suspect now than anyone else, investigators say.

No one answered the door today at the man’s trailer, and neighbors declined to disclose his name. He is not a registered sex offender, according to the California Department of Justice. In fact, the department lists that no registered sex offenders live in the mobile home park. Police already interviewed all the area’s registrants.


http://tracypress.com/content/view/17666/2242/

[aproudmom]

Well I am so confused now. 2 possible POI, and they think she may be alive. If she's alive, then WTH is she?? Just doesn't make sense.

And the gf with the camera - yes it was because some had slashed his tires in retaliation to his trapping cats. But taking his grand daughter would be such a HUGE step up on the retaliation ladder!! Granted, there are some idiots out there, but geez. I'm not sure someone would go to that extreme. :confused:

I figure the dad coming back into the picture is a 15mins of fame deal. That's just MHO.

Bev

So the dad has came into the picture? if so then I am sure you are right if he has not been apart of her life.

[aproudmom]

Could be, Peter. They installed a camera for a reason. Was someone after the family for some reason? I just pray they didn't harm Sandra for something the GF did, if that's the case. :sad:

OK this is just so odd they feel she is safe and alive but then also ask for anything someone may have seen out of the ordinary. They have searched homes have 2 POI getting warrants I am so confused:confused:

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17667/2242/
Tracy police Sgt. Tony Sheneman — the department’s spokesman — recapped what’s been done

In the meantime, he asked people to tell police about anything out of the ordinary, whether it’s that someone changed their appearance or hasn’t been seen for a few days when they’re normally seen all the time.

“They may seem insignificant when looked at individually, but there could be some common thread,” he said. “We are depending on information from the community.”

Police also urged parents to talk to their kids to find out if they knew Sandra or had talked to her recently. If so, he said investigators would like to interview them.

Investigators have already watched all the surveillance footage from a camera placed outside Sandra’s home as well as footage from cameras outside local businesses, including two nearby hotels. Nothing suspicious showed up, police told the public.Monday, 30 March 2009

[aproudmom]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17668/2242/

Possible break in case
Written by Associated Press
Tuesday, 31 March 2009

[BevAnn]

I'm sorry, I may have misspoken (mistyped!) - I guess I was reading that the dad HAD come back into the picture....it seems that is still up in the air....my bad for assuming he had. You know what happens when you ASSume!! LOL

So, now, do they think 2 men are involved in doing something with Sandra?? If so, hopefully one will turn on the other!

Bev

[aproudmom]

I'm sorry, I may have misspoken (mistyped!) - I guess I was reading that the dad HAD come back into the picture....it seems that is still up in the air....my bad for assuming he had. You know what happens when you ASSume!! LOL

So, now, do they think 2 men are involved in doing something with Sandra?? If so, hopefully one will turn on the other!

Bev

O no problem I totally understand we are all human I thought I did read though that it was not true the father had not been in her life I may go back and see if I can find it again that was why I thought maybe you saw it on a media link..I pray she is OK it is very confusing if you ask me the reports seem to contradict each other they say they think she is alive and well but then say only because they have no reason to beleive foul play at this time then the search of these homes 2 POI very odd. I hope we get good news soon. jmo

BTW I am not one of those nit picking posters who demand everyone to provide me a link I am here to talk about these cases not call others out...Thanks Bev and have a great day I pray the taking of things out of these homes and taking the cars to send for forensics does not mean they think someone has harmed her or worse:sad:

[VC2]

Why is LE saying it's not an abduction though? I don't get it. From paddy's link, they now have 2 POI's? Did she go to these houses willingly? Did these men befriend her and she trusted them? Maybe they're not related to the family but they could be friends of the family.

I think LE and the family know more than they're saying, imo.

i really get ticked when LE says its not an abduction. An 8 year old can run away but when they don't come backits absolutely wrong to assume its not an abduction. tey can be taken in by someone then not allowed to leave.

My question is this..if its not an abduction then go get her. The only way they can be certain of that is if they know where she is.

imo

[SpecialK]

I didn't find a specific address but Sandra lives in Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park with a listed address of 812 West Clover.

Also, here are the individuals taken into custody in San Joaquin County in the last 24 hours. I'm guessing the two POIs they've got are listed here...

http://207.104.50.87/whosincustody/RecentBookings.aspx

JMO

[aproudmom]

I'm sorry, I may have misspoken (mistyped!) - I guess I was reading that the dad HAD come back into the picture....it seems that is still up in the air....my bad for assuming he had. You know what happens when you ASSume!! LOL

So, now, do they think 2 men are involved in doing something with Sandra?? If so, hopefully one will turn on the other!

Bev

ok Bev is this her father or step-father

Dad Pleads For Daughter's Safe Return
Tracy Girl Missing Since Friday

TRACY, Calif. - The father of a missing Tracy girl made an emotional plea for her return.

Eight-year-old Sandra Cantu was last seen at 4 p.m. Friday outside of her Tracy mobile home

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29955096/


This is from another site her father is Danny Cantu

Danny Cantu, Sandra’s father, is believed to be in Mexico, and Sheneman said he isn’t considered a kidnapping suspect.

“The mother said he hasn’t been involved in the family for a long time,” he said. The family does not believe that.
:confused:

[aproudmom]

I didn't find a specific address but Sandra lives in Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park with a listed address of 812 West Clover.

Also, here are the individuals taken into custody in San Joaquin County in the last 24 hours. I'm guessing the two POIs they've got are listed here...

http://207.104.50.87/whosincustody/RecentBookings.aspx

JMO

O thank you so much SpecialK hope to hear more soon if they have someone in custody

[aproudmom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29958450/

Police, FBI Search Homes In Tracy
Tracy Police Missing Girl May Still Be Alive
updated 1:46 a.m. CT, Tues., March. 31, 2009
TRACY, Calif. - Tracy police confirm that the FBI and its department are searching six properties in connection to an 8-year-old Tracy girl's disappearance.
Six properties are being searched. Four of those properties are within the mobile home community, two are outside the mobile home community, but within city of Tracy, police said. The search warrants are related to two persons of interest

Tracy police said they believe 8-year-old Sandra Cantu is still alive.

6? omg does anyone know the names of any of the owners of these homes I got your link SK just dont know which one or ones could be the POI..

[SpecialK]

60 sex offenders in her zip code. I cross-checked with the San Joaquin recent bookings -- no matches. Does that mean we can assume those in custody are NOT (registered) sex offenders? That's a good thing, right?

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?searchby=ZipList&ZipCode2=95376&SB=0&PageNo=1

There IS a command post set up on West Clover.

JMO

[aproudmom]

ITA. Just catching up here. I read that she wanted to run away but I think if she did they would have found her by now. If someone was caring for her in their home they would have come forward by now. Is anyone posting her picture out there? Do they have a command post set up? Any news conference daily.

ITA yes they do have a command post set up have since Friday I think. If they arrested someone last night I can not see any address on the bookings it just gives the police station I was trying to find someone arrested or 2 arrested about the same time so far I can not figure it out....alot of arrest last night 30th/31:confused:
http://207.104.50.87/whosincustody/RecentBookings.aspx

[aproudmom]

60 sex offenders in her zip code. I cross-checked with the San Joaquin recent bookings -- no matches. Does that mean we can assume those in custody are NOT (registered) sex offenders? That's a good thing, right?

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?searchby=ZipList&ZipCode2=95376&SB=0&PageNo=1

There IS a command post set up on West Clover.

JMO

yeah I read there was not any SO in the actual park not sure if the media was correct but usually they look within so many miles I did read one person they talked to was not a SO. They showed a command post set up near the home not sure if it is still there some media report was after they searched the homes and towed the cars they stopped road blocks that is media saying it so not sure they get it wrong alot of times...

[aproudmom]

This says no arrest yet


Two men questioned about missing Tracy girl

Tuesday, March 31, 2009

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/30/BA7K16PM1Q.DTL&tsp=1

[aproudmom]

Thanx. I'll take a look. I do that for a living. Enter arrests into computer.

cool they may just be saying no arrest as of yet since they have not had a press conf. I was trying to find a map that gave the names in the park I did it when Caylee Anthony was missing just cant remember what site I went to that listed the last names for the addresses..

[kelloggirl]

I didn't read in any of the articles that the POIs were taken into custody, only that search warrants had been issued in conjunction with the two POIs, so it's possible that registered SOs could be the POIs. (If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.)

I agree with all of you that I just don't get why LE never says it's an abduction. Do they think if they don't, they'll lull the non-abductors into complacency? Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever. I hope it's just a PR thing, and that behind the scenes, they are working fast and furious as if her life was in danger. Given the relatively quick progress in this case relative to others, it seems like at least that's the case. I just don't have a good feeling about poor little Sandra AT ALL.

[royals02]

What is wrong with parents these days. Why in the world would an 8 year old be allowed to walk even one house away without being watched by a parent. Especially knowing the way the world is today....I just dont get it....it makes me soooooooo angry.
Even today, if I drive one of my son's friends home (and we are talking about teenage boys here) I wait until they are inside of the house before pulling away. You just can NEVER be too careful....yet here is another story of a young child "missing" who apparently wasn't being watched.:cursing:

[aproudmom]

I didn't read in any of the articles that the POIs were taken into custody, only that search warrants had been issued in conjunction with the two POIs, so it's possible that registered SOs could be the POIs. (If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.)

I agree with all of you that I just don't get why LE never says it's an abduction. Do they think if they don't, they'll lull the non-abductors into complacency? Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever. I hope it's just a PR thing, and that behind the scenes, they are working fast and furious as if her life was in danger. Given the relatively quick progress in this case relative to others, it seems like at least that's the case. I just don't have a good feeling about poor little Sandra AT ALL.

yeah I had not heard they arrested anyone I think SK was just looking at the booking to see the arrest made..and ITA LE searching 6 homes and taking cars but says they feel she is alive??:confused:

[aproudmom]

I didn't read in any of the articles that the POIs were taken into custody, only that search warrants had been issued in conjunction with the two POIs, so it's possible that registered SOs could be the POIs. (If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.)

I agree with all of you that I just don't get why LE never says it's an abduction. Do they think if they don't, they'll lull the non-abductors into complacency? Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever. I hope it's just a PR thing, and that behind the scenes, they are working fast and furious as if her life was in danger. Given the relatively quick progress in this case relative to others, it seems like at least that's the case. I just don't have a good feeling about poor little Sandra AT ALL.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/30/BA7K16PM1Q.DTL&tsp=1

The search warrants were served on property and vehicles associated with two men, who were interviewed by police in connection with the disappearance of Sandra Cantu, who failed to return to her home at the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park on West Clover Road on Friday, said Tracy police Sgt. Tony Sheneman.

"They are persons of interest," Sheneman said. "Information was gathered from leads generated from the community and information gathered in interviews with the two people. We were searching for information that would lead to the whereabouts of Sandra."
Four of the search warrants were served inside the mobile home park, and the others were served in Tracy and Oakdale (Stanislaus County), Sheneman said. All items collected during the searches were taken to an FBI laboratory in Sacramento for analysis, he said.

Sheneman did not disclose what relationship, if any, the two men had with the Cantu family or why they attracted attention, but he said investigators also were focusing on associated vehicles.

"The two men are not related to each other, and they do not live together," he said.

The men were not arrested and were not named as suspects.

ok so POI not named as suspects I sure hope they figure out which one it is soon if they feel she is well and alive.

[aproudmom]

She lives so close to main roads and a highway I sure hope she did not leave the park and was picked up looks like a store and a lot of other homes and business are around her address

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/5-_zAcMm3cMa8Gj1TPLWp3

[aproudmom]

This is the first I heard she came in and was going to go to a movie but did not have enough money so went back out to play, I see they have talked to the older man who kissed her at the pool when she was 6. I do not see how they can say she is alive from what I have read I think they should just stick with they have no evidence of her being kidnapped...

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090331/A_NEWS02/903310332/-1/A_NEWS

TRACY - After three full days of searching for 8-year-old Sandra Cantu and few clues, Tracy investigators reported their first major developments in the mysterious case late Monday:

Police reviewed surveillance video from businesses that surround the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park. Detectives scanned a list of hundreds of guests at nearby motels.

The more than 90 mobile homes in the park were searched at least twice, police said. Family members and park residents also were questioned, Sheneman said.

That includes one adult resident who allegedly kissed Sandra on the lips two years ago at the trailer park's pool, Sheneman said. That man, who was about 60 at the time, is being questioned and had not been named a suspect earlier in the day


When Sandra arrived home - around 4 p.m., according to a surveillance camera attached to her house - she talked about going to church and a movie with her two older sisters, her grandfather said.

When the girls realized they didn't have enough money to go to a movie, Sandra left again to play, Chavez said.

The video camera recorded her exit from the house. It was the last time Sandra was seen.

[aproudmom]

This is from this morning sounds like so far they have nothing if they say they are not even ruling out she ran away which I really doubt. I am very worried I do not think she would run away at that age and not return she is 8 someone could have took her after 4 when she left the home again.


Search continues for Tracy girl
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090330/A_NEWS/903300323

He refused to discuss any clues authorities are following, however, and said they have not ruled out any theories - including that Sandra ran away.

[concerned]

What is wrong with parents these days. Why in the world would an 8 year old be allowed to walk even one house away without being watched by a parent. Especially knowing the way the world is today....I just dont get it....it makes me soooooooo angry.
Even today, if I drive one of my son's friends home (and we are talking about teenage boys here) I wait until they are inside of the house before pulling away. You just can NEVER be too careful....yet here is another story of a young child "missing" who apparently wasn't being watched.:cursing:



My thoughts exactly! I wanted to scream as soon as it came outta there mouths that she...at 8 years old...was roaming around the neighborhood on her own. I am sick of people letting this happen. I honestly think it's just to get them out of their own hair sometimes! I had a neighbor that let her children do the very same thing and it burned me up. They honestly came to my door on more than one occasion, to see if their child was at my house after dark. I wanted to give them a piece of my mind.....it's their child, but dang it....makes me wanna shake some sense into them! :mad:

[royals02]

My thoughts exactly! I wanted to scream as soon as it came outta there mouths that she...at 8 years old...was roaming around the neighborhood on her own. I am sick of people letting this happen. I honestly think it's just to get them out of their own hair sometimes! I had a neighbor that let her children do the very same thing and it burned me up. They honestly came to my door on more than one occasion, to see if their child was at my house after dark. I wanted to give them a piece of my mind.....it's their child, but dang it....makes me wanna shake some sense into them! :mad:

OH Thank God...I just knew there had to be someone else out there who felt the same way I did. I was truly surprised that no one else was asking this same question
When I heard this story on NG last nite, believe me I was screaming at the TV...I was like are you f-ing kidding me....why in the world was the "little" girl out all by herself unsupervised. Look, apparently kids are getting stolen right out of their own beds nowadays (poor Haleigh), so why would anyone think their child is "safe" on the streets. I just dont get it and I never will

[Riverwalk!]

HLN:

Christian Sinclair was arrested (and released) for interfering with this investigation.

Neighbors are saying she was too friendly with all the neighbors.

2 POI are not under arrest and hopes "they won't take off"??????

Lots of evidence at the MH park and other residences are being processed by FBI.

[Dogmatic]

HLN:

Christian Sinclair was arrested (and released) for interfering with this investigation.

Neighbors are saying she was too friendly with all the neighbors.

2 POI are not under arrest and hopes "they won't take off"??????

Lots of evidence at the MH park and other residences are being processed by FBI.


This does not sound good for little Sandra.

May she be safe

[Riverwalk!]

Video of the two cars taken away last night and update

http://www.ktvu.com/video/19054999/index.html

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.kron.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/898/reftab/36/Default.aspx?t=Family-Says-Sondra-Cantu-was-Abducted;-Police-Search-Homes-of-Two-Men-as-Persons-of-Interest

Video of Marc Klaas discussing this case. (click on the left hand side)

[Riverwalk!]

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6738066

Click on the picture of the creepy dude for the video. That's Christian Sinclair.

One of the two people of interest is a man named Chris Sinclair. FBI agents arrested him at his house Monday night on an unrelated matter. He says when it comes to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu, he is an innocent man.


They took his cars, but it's not related. :confused:

[BevAnn]

oh my...I will certainly apologize if I am wrong...but geez...he even looks creepy! He may be the sweetest guy on the earth and wouldn't harm a soul, but man he kinda set my hinky meter off. :blink:

I wonder HOW he was obstructing...what did he do?

Bev

ETA: Trigger's link was a little messed up...here it is - http://www.kcra.com/news/19053042/detail.html
:)

[Dogmatic]

This is sounding dire and I had hoped she ran away!
:rose:


Agreed. I had hoped for a happy ending.

[Riverwalk!]

Myspace of this precious child.

http://www.myspace.com/findmissingsandra

[n/t]

From this link:
"This person was interfering with the execution of the search warrant and was arrested for interfering and obstructing justice," explained Sgt. Tony Sheneman.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6738066

[n/t]

Hard to tell by one video but the question is why him? LE must've had something to lead them to this home. Also, if you're totally innocent and have nothing to hide and want to help this child be found, why make a big fuss about LE searching the home? Doesn't that make you look even more suspicious? I'd let them search my home if I knew I did nothing wrong. Why did he make such a big stink and even got arrested for it? :thumbdown:

OK..who's the other guy? Do we know his name or anything about him? TIA

[Kip]

Hard to tell by one video but the question is why him? LE must've had something to lead them to this home. Also, if you're totally innocent and have nothing to hide and want to help this child be found, why make a big fuss about LE searching the home? Doesn't that make you look even more suspicious? I'd let them search my home if I knew I did nothing wrong. Why did he make such a big stink and even got arrested for it? :thumbdown:

OK..who's the other guy? Do we know his name or anything about him? TIA

If anyone in my neighborhood (child or adult) were missing, I'd let LE search my property and home. But some people may have nothing to do with the missing person's disappearance but have something illegal laying around (drugs, weapons, child porn).

When Jessica Lunsford was first missing, I wondered about the possibility of walking up to houses with a tracking dog, ringing the bell and asking if they could come in and let the dog have a quick sniff around. I wonder if the dog would alert on the missing person's scent even if they were in a back bedroom.

[juliekan]

n/t, I don't know the whole story- but if I was completely innocent, and they came and took BOTH my cars (presuming his wife/girlfriend and he both work, and need their cars) I might get upset too.

Looking at this whole situation it doesn't appear he's a man with a great deal of money - and now what's he going to do for transportation for the next week or so? They took his cars.

If it turns out he had anything to do with Sandra's appearance I'll obviously feel differently - but now his name has been vilified and his cars are gone and it may be for nothing, I've got sympathy for him. Depending on how belligerent he actually got, it seems a bit heavy handed to arrest him and take him to jail for being justifiably upset.

My opinion only - and maybe I'm just a little sensitive after watching that Moats video of that jerk cop who kept him there while the nurse pleaded with the cop to allow the Moats' to go into the hospital, where their relative had "coded" and been revived already 4 times waiting for their arrival. So sad.

He may have something in his past, or someone who's been spreading stories about him, that alerted LE. That's sad and if he's totally innocent, that's gotta be tough.

[Riverwalk!]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/

A popular Tracy martial arts instructor who had his home and business searched Monday night said today that he was “just trying to be nice” when he kissed the missing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu on the lips two years ago.

[merical]

For the cops to search the guys house and then take his cars (both of them) they must have justifiable reasons for doing so. Why would they take a car and spend time going over it looking for clues that they couldn't see upon initial examination in the trailer park? I don't think it has to do with him becoming upset and not wanting his home searched. The dogs probably were brought in and alerted on something or they found something incriminating in his place.

I keep getting the feeling that the LE knows a lot more than they are telling and that they are doing so in an effort to keep a suspect from running. I wonder if they are just attempting to be purposefully vague so as not to give away their suspicions. So much that we don't know.

[Riverwalk!]

Sicko dude, imo.

In my post #138 link, Christian Sinclair WAS named a POI regarding the disappearance of Sandra Cantu.

MOO and reading the link.

[n/t]

If anyone in my neighborhood (child or adult) were missing, I'd let LE search my property and home. But some people may have nothing to do with the missing person's disappearance but have something illegal laying around (drugs, weapons, child porn).

When Jessica Lunsford was first missing, I wondered about the possibility of walking up to houses with a tracking dog, ringing the bell and asking if they could come in and let the dog have a quick sniff around. I wonder if the dog would alert on the missing person's scent even if they were in a back bedroom.

If he's doing illegal stuff, he should be in jail! The point is if you have nothing to hide there's no reason to hinder an investigation of a missing 8 year old little girl.

[n/t]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/

A popular Tracy martial arts instructor who had his home and business searched Monday night said today that he was “just trying to be nice” when he kissed the missing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu on the lips two years ago.

ok..this guy is a sicko and I'm glad they're checking him out. Even if he has nothing to do with Sandra's disappearance, he needs to be monitored. Why would he kiss an 8 year old on the lips? :mad:

[juliekan]

ok..this guy is a sicko and I'm glad they're checking him out. Even if he has nothing to do with Sandra's disappearance, he needs to be monitored. Why would he kiss an 8 year old on the lips? :mad:

even worse, it was 2 years ago...a 6 yo

[n/t]

even worse, it was 2 years ago...a 6 yo

Sickening. :cursing:

[n/t]

Well this is confusing. This article says the investigation is wide open and there is nobody that's been eliminated.

Does this mean the family is also under suspicion?:confused:

http://www.news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=57134&catid=2

[n/t]

I don't know what to think of that story, n/t.

The last line says something like it hasn't even been ruled out that she left with a relative. ??

Maybe they know something more, that possibility doesn't even seem remotely on the table from my perspective.


News to me too. I never even knew they considered Sandra leaving with a relative. hmmmmm

[n/t]

Incredible dedication from LE working on this case.

Per the link, there are 150 to 200 people working on the case and officers are working 12-hour shifts and putting vacation days on hold to accommodate the investigation.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19059082/detail.html

[~jomomma~]

NG just said Lenny put up a $10,000 reward

[odyssey]

Why does Leonard Padilla seem to always put time limits on his rewards? Just curious.
He has put up ten thousand dollars for the safe return of Sandra if she is returned by sunday night.
That takes the reward money up to seventeen thousand dollars.

[n/t]

NG just said Lenny put up a $10,000 reward

Yay for Lenny! I think that puts the reward to more than $15,000

[girlspell]

I'm so worried about that little girl. I'm praying she'll turn up unharmed. Very upsetting. I have an 8 year old daughter.

[VC2]

Why does Leonard Padilla seem to always put time limits on his rewards? Just curious.
He has put up ten thousand dollars for the safe return of Sandra if she is returned by sunday night.
That takes the reward money up to seventeen thousand dollars.

He reminds me joe mammana (sp) who was a thug who got rich...i always called him counter top joe bc he beat a women with a piece of counter top...and tried to make himself look like a wonderful guy by putting up rewards. They either had time limits or they were worded in such a way that he almost never had to pay out but until his rearrest was considered a savior to crime victims.

imo

[CANDYKISSES]

ok..this guy is a sicko and I'm glad they're checking him out. Even if he has nothing to do with Sandra's disappearance, he needs to be monitored. Why would he kiss an 8 year old on the lips? :mad:

Even worse, Didn't I hear them say he first did that when she was SIX YEARS OLD???

Why is this freak in any way associated with children or a karate studio?

JMObarf

[Riverwalk!]

3/31 Nancy Grace

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/31/ng.01.html

GRACE: Out to Daniel Horowitz, joining us from San Francisco. Daniel, you have made a unique offer as well. Could you quickly explain it.

HOROWITZ: Yes, Nancy. If you`re out there and you know where she is, and you`ve done anything wrong, whether you`ve taken her or you`ve helped to hide her, I will represent you free of charge if, and only if, you bring her back safely.

If you do that, free of charge. You`ll get representation by me for whatever you have done.

[Riverwalk!]

Yay for Lenny! I think that puts the reward to more than $15,000

GRACE: Everyone, I want to announce the reward tonight offered up by bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. $10,000 for the safe return of little Sandra by midnight Sunday. $10,000.

There is also another reward, $7,000 in total from Carole Sund/Carrington, that`s the families who created that foundation, and the Tracy CrimeStoppers and FBI. That`s a total of $17,000 on the table regarding this little girl.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/31/ng.01.html

[doctor_J]

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/feb/28/search-adji-two-missing-children-two-different-ale/?partner=RSS

This link give a pretty good explanation about when Amber Alerts are used versus Missing Child Alerts. Especially the fact that Haleigh got an Amber Alert and Adji Got a Missing Child Alert. It varies some from state to state and is a judgement call. A description of perp and vehicle is desired but obviously not reguired since Haliegh's case did not have those. The key point seems to be whether LE can confidently classify it as a abduction. Both cases in Fl. but Adjii might have wondered off (also this Ca. child,Sandra). The main advantage of an Amber is that they get instant flashing highway signs. This helps with cross country truck drivers,etc. That would explain why LE has rdfused to call this an abduction. That would cause the question "Why no Amber Alert?"
They do not think she left the park so AL would not help.http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/feb/28/search-adji-two-missing-children-two-different-ale/?partner=RSS

[doctor_J]

In post above the 1st link did not work so I tried again. I paraphrased to prevent copyright violation (which I don't quite understand).

[Maelstrom5]

Candy what is it about this martial arts guy and why does this sound familiar to me? There must have been another case, yrs ago about a Martial Arts instructor in CA. I swear this case sounds so very familiar. Karate black belt instructor, child molester case. Anyone remember one in CA specifically? I do.

I wonder what this guy's rap sheet looks like, or if he in fact has one.

You have a good memory. Here is the case

Tera Smith.. Missing 8/22/98.. Redding, California
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2107074&imageID=26055811

[n/t]

I'm kind of irritated by Horrowitz and Padilla.

NO one is going to return her "unharmed" at this point, so it seems a bit self-serving to announce at this late juncture free legal help and a huge reward.

If she were spending the night at another friend's house though a miscommunication, that would have been over 4 days ago. No one is holding this girl in their home and feeding her homemade cookies and reading her storybooks.

I'm not sure why I'm so irritated by these two, but really, your money and professional time won't be required here if you put the stipulation that the person returns this girl unharmed.

I would like to see them both pony up with if you are a WITNESS, or you know something but have been afraid to come forward until now, you'll get the reward. Not gonna happen.

I'm not a big Padilla fan nor Horowitz for that matter but I think they should be commended for their offer to help. They may not be able to help in the search for Sandra so this may be their way of expressing their willingness to help find her.

Yes, it could be too late but there's always hope that she's still alive.

[RainyNiteNTx]

In looking at the pictures NG was showing last night, I'm amazed at the stark difference in Sandra's pictures they show. In the one where she has the long dark hair, she almost has a Jon-Benet type look. Beautiful little girl.

[aproudmom]

Why does Leonard Padilla seem to always put time limits on his rewards? Just curious.
He has put up ten thousand dollars for the safe return of Sandra if she is returned by Sunday night.
That takes the reward money up to seventeen thousand dollars.

I am not sure but if you ask me I think he wants someone to come forward soon he may be hated by a lot but he does care he didn't put a reward for Haleigh that I know of so don't think it is just wanting attention is he from CA I think he is isn't he??
also the lawyer that lost his wife to murder Daniel horowitz or something like that said he would help anyone who was involved with this bro bono if they just returned the child I think he is also from CA. I am very happy NG is covering it some of these other news stations need to they have for a lot of others. JMO

[aproudmom]

In looking at the pictures NG was showing last night, I'm amazed at the stark difference in Sandra's pictures they show. In the one where she has the long dark hair, she almost has a Jon-Benet type look. Beautiful little girl.

she is so pretty isn't she. in some pics she has lighter hair I noticed.
I guess all we know so far is they have got LDT from someone just not sure who or if more than one person and they spent many hours with the guy that kissed her 2 years ago..other than that has anyone heard anything new?

[aproudmom]

I'm not a big Padilla fan nor Horowitz for that matter but I think they should be commended for their offer to help. They may not be able to help in the search for Sandra so this may be their way of expressing their willingness to help find her.

Yes, it could be too late but there's always hope that she's still alive.

I am with you n/t I think we should thank them they are stepping up for this little girl and I am trying to keep hope she is safe even if the stats are not in her favor.

I got to thinking last night and her grandpa said she was going to go to a movie and church but then did not have enough money I wonder if she got upset and did leave the park not planning on running away and someone grabbed her or even someone in the park that she knew saw she was upset and took advantage of that..o I hate it when I have to think of what could have happened.

I for one would have beat that old pervs U know what 2 years ago if he had kissed my child he even admitted to it to LE that is so gross who does that and says that they just wanted to be friendly with the kids...yuck he is sick even if he has nothing to do with this...jmo

Good Morning eveyone
Happy April Fools Day make sure your computers are safe I have heard about this bad virus watch what you open it is not a joke either been on news all morning.

[aproudmom]

Candy what is it about this martial arts guy and why does this sound familiar to me? There must have been another case, yrs ago about a Martial Arts instructor in CA. I swear this case sounds so very familiar. Karate black belt instructor, child molester case. Anyone remember one in CA specifically? I do.

I wonder what this guy's rap sheet looks like, or if he in fact has one.

Boy you have a good memory

[aproudmom]

Hi n/t and everyone. I was going through the threads tonight here and well I wanted to post this:
See this story in WA state:

www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_033109WAN-ellensburg-am-pm-robbery-LJ.8c9bc86d.html?btm

It seems such a desperate move, to rob a conv store with a child. I wish we could zoom in on her face because I wondered if it was Sandra.
The age fits, the timeline, easy. It's less than 18 hours to WA state from the OC. Not that far fetched either.

good find bugout
I am not so sure it is her unless her hair has been changed and looks a little heavier than the pics we have saw of her but you know the ones I have seen she has lighter hair in one so they really should pull photos of her as she looks now cause I don't know if her hair is back to the darker color or still light anyone know which picture is most recent???

here are the 3 pics from your link
http://www.king5.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=15486&nextimage=2

Here is a link about the martial arts guy has his pic and also a pic of Sandra in this picture she does not look like the little girl that was with the guy who robbed the store but not sure how recent the picture is.

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/

[Cheri_G]

You have a good memory. Here is the case

Tera Smith.. Missing 8/22/98.. Redding, California
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=143252708&albumID=2107074&imageID=26055811

I noticed that Sandra, in the pictures where her hair is lighter, bears some resemblence to Tera. I wonder where this Troy Zink guy is these days.

[aproudmom]

I noticed that Sandra, in the pictures where her hair is lighter, bears some resemblence to Tera. I wonder where this Troy Zink guy is these days.

yeah after looking again you are right she does. not sure have you googled his name to see what it brings up anything is possible so I know we are all just grasping for anything right now..I for one think this Martial arts guy is a odd person and have no idea why her family would ever allow her to go near his home after kissing her on the lips..he scares me Just trying to be nice??????JMO

Frank Wohler at his martial arts dojo.
He said he knew Sandra and that the girl would come over to his yard occasionally, asking if he needed help with small jobs around the garden.

When asked after Wohler finished teaching a martial arts class today about a report that he kissed Sandra at the mobile swimming pool two years ago, he said, “Yeah, it was me. We were in the pool, and I was just trying to be nice.”:mad:

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/

[BevAnn]

I would guess the Delta Martial Arts school just lost a whole BUNCH of clients. :glare:

Bev

[Cheri_G]

yeah after looking again you are right she does. not sure have you googled his name to see what it brings up anything is possible so I know we are all just grasping for anything right now..I for one think this Martial arts guy is a odd person and have no idea why her family would ever allow her to go near his home after kissing her on the lips..he scares me Just trying to be nice??????JMO

Frank Wohler at his martial arts dojo.
He said he knew Sandra and that the girl would come over to his yard occasionally, asking if he needed help with small jobs around the garden.

When asked after Wohler finished teaching a martial arts class today about a report that he kissed Sandra at the mobile swimming pool two years ago, he said, “Yeah, it was me. We were in the pool, and I was just trying to be nice.”:mad:

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/

Yeah, I did. Looks like if he's not still in prison he's probably back in the Redding area, so about 200 miles from Tracy, with possible family ties in San Francisco which is closer but still over 60 miles away.

So yeah, its really just grasping at straws since there's nothing similar between the two cases.

[aproudmom]

Yeah, I did. Looks like if he's not still in prison he's probably back in the Redding area, so about 200 miles from Tracy, with possible family ties in San Francisco which is closer but still over 60 miles away.

So yeah, its really just grasping at straws since there's nothing similar between the two cases.

I did to and it looks as if he has stayed in the same area and may work for his father in a mall. he spent 4 years in prison for rape and firearms and it is odd but I doubt he has anything to do with this case...I do hope that the parents who have heard about this Martial Arts guy takes their kids out of his class kissing a 6yr old is sick IMO I would not want my kids around him.

I wonder how long it will take for them to get forensics from the cars and whatever they took from the homes and business he said they took his cell phone so I am sure they will look at the cell pings.

[aproudmom]

I would guess the Delta Martial Arts school just lost a whole BUNCH of clients. :glare:

Bev

I would say so he kinda hurt himself by telling the media he had kissed her to only be nice and working with kids that is a little scary if you ask me. I am not saying he did anything but I do think his excuse for the kiss was very strange like it was no big deal..JMO

[odyssey]

I'm kind of irritated by Horrowitz and Padilla.

NO one is going to return her "unharmed" at this point, so it seems a bit self-serving to announce at this late juncture free legal help and a huge reward.

If she were spending the night at another friend's house though a miscommunication, that would have been over 4 days ago. No one is holding this girl in their home and feeding her homemade cookies and reading her storybooks.

I'm not sure why I'm so irritated by these two, but really, your money and professional time won't be required here if you put the stipulation that the person returns this girl unharmed.

I would like to see them both pony up with if you are a WITNESS, or you know something but have been afraid to come forward until now, you'll get the reward. Not gonna happen.

I am probably wrong but I take unharmed, at least when the attorney said it, as in "not dead" .. I don't take that to mean not abused, and I am just putting my two cents in and that may be worth nothing.

jmoo

[odyssey]

I am not sure but if you ask me I think he wants someone to come forward soon he may be hated by a lot but he does care he didn't put a reward for Haleigh that I know of so don't think it is just wanting attention is he from CA I think he is isn't he??
also the lawyer that lost his wife to murder Daniel horowitz or something like that said he would help anyone who was involved with this bro bono if they just returned the child I think he is also from CA. I am very happy NG is covering it some of these other news stations need to they have for a lot of others. JMO

He did put a reward up for Haleigh if she was returned unharmed by the Saturday after she disappeared. That is when I learned about his time limits so that is why i was curious.
Sorry for the o/t
and I have a very bad feeling about this case and this beautiful little girl Sandra.

jmoo

[aproudmom]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17670/2268/


I love this picture, it looks like the mighty martial arts, child kisser is about to get hit in the nards by one of his students.

Even if this guy had nothing to do with Sandra's disappearance he's a freak, looks like a freak and acts like a freak. What kind of old shriv hangs out at the local pool kissing 6 year olds on the mouth?

Then makes his living hanging out with kids in a hands on fashion. He should change his last name to Yuck.


ITA justamama
I must agree with everything you just said and we are not saying he took her he did admit to the kiss and his home and business has been searched not sure if he is the one that took a LDT If so then maybe he has nothing to hide and has nothing to do with her being missing. I think he is sick just for kissing a little girl just to be nice buy her a soda or some candy not a kiss on the lips...yuck

she went missing on Friday right? that was the same day the officer from CA was laid to rest he was from tracy I am sure this town has had so many emotions in the past week losing a Police officer who was shot down with 3 other cops and then a 8 yr old goes missing this town has got to be hurting.

[VC2]

I would say so he kinda hurt himself by telling the media he had kissed her to only be nice and working with kids that is a little scary if you ask me. I am not saying he did anything but I do think his excuse for the kiss was very strange like it was no big deal..JMO

i keep wondering if it perhaps was not a big deal when it happened, just playing in the pool, a joke or a sweet comment and he just gave her a smacking kiss in response with "what a jokester you are, or what a nice thing to say" while they were playing or splashing around.

Not saying it was appropriate but i have seen men and women not related swing up a little girl or boy and give them a kiss just in fun with no icky intent whatsoever and since Sandra didn't seem afraid of him it may have been nothing more.

jmo

[Jpanda]

I watched NG last night and I think it's wonderful that LP is putting up a reward, and that Dan Horowitz offered his free legal representation if someone brings back Sandra unharmed. These two guys are not my favorite people in the world, but if there was one thing I learned from the Elizabeth Smart case, it's to never give up hope. There is a good chance that Sandra might still be alive, and I think it's well worth it to offer rewards and such to give someone the option of returning her.

Praying really hard for this sweet little girl!

jmo

[Abbie]

Did you watch the video in the link? Looks like LE towed half the trailer park out!

[happy2bme]

I watched NG last night and I think it's wonderful that LP is putting up a reward, and that Dan Horowitz offered his free legal representation if someone brings back Sandra unharmed. These two guys are not my favorite people in the world, but if there was one thing I learned from the Elizabeth Smart case, it's to never give up hope. There is a good chance that Sandra might still be alive, and I think it's well worth it to offer rewards and such to give someone the option of returning her.

Praying really hard for this sweet little girl!

jmo

ITA! :thumbsup:

[happy2bme]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17668/2268/

This says that 2 men questioned are now persons of interest?

Says their names have not been released. Are these two men not the same ones that have been discussed? I am confused?

[aproudmom]

i keep wondering if it perhaps was not a big deal when it happened, just playing in the pool, a joke or a sweet comment and he just gave her a smacking kiss in response with "what a jokester you are, or what a nice thing to say" while they were playing or splashing around.

Not saying it was appropriate but i have seen men and women not related swing up a little girl or boy and give them a kiss just in fun with no icky intent whatsoever and since Sandra didn't seem afraid of him it may have been nothing more.

jmo

I think these days you can not trust any one around your kids and I do think kissing a 6yr old on the lips is sick and for them to remember it if I recall her brother from 2 years ago it had to be a little more I just think it is odd I see your side also but I just can not imagine someone kissing my children in that matter if it were my child he would have got a knock on his door.

[aproudmom]

Did you watch the video in the link? Looks like LE towed half the trailer park out!

yes I did alot of stuff plus cars right?

[aproudmom]

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17668/2268/

This says that 2 men questioned are now persons of interest?

Says their names have not been released. Are these two men not the same ones that have been discussed? I am confused?

Yeah they said POI a couple days ago just will not call them suspects
but something must have really lead them to these homes to get the warrants and remove cars and cell phones and LDT being done they must think there may be more just can not say until they get all the forensics back. JMO:confused:

[museumgirl]

I am very affectionate w/the children our family is close to and I will kiss and hug them and tell them I love them each time I see them... but I have never kissed anyone elses child on the lips!!! It's a forehead or cheek ONLY.

Which to me is a kiss of affection... on the lips to another persons child is strange IMO.

I so hope this little girl comes home and is able to recover from this.

[GentleBreeze]

I'm not a big Padilla fan nor Horowitz for that matter but I think they should be commended for their offer to help. They may not be able to help in the search for Sandra so this may be their way of expressing their willingness to help find her.

Yes, it could be too late but there's always hope that she's still alive.

I totally agree.

We see those who make offers and it doesn't have to come immediately after the child goes missing. Increasing the reward amount is always a good thing. It shows others care about this missing child.

And Dan is trying to get the child back safely. Imo trying to reach out to the POS is the only way that can ever happen if she is alive.

There must always be hope that she will be found safe. Without hope we have nothing left but despair. The family of Sandra still have hope in their hearts. It is what drives them onward to make another step.

Other little children have been found alive when they were nabbed by some creep.

I continue to hope that Sandra is still alive and will be found. Never would I have thought Shasta Greone would ever be found alive again or Elizabeth Smart and others but I was so happily wrong. We never know until they find them.

imo

[aproudmom]

Guess he drank a little to much the comments left on the link said he was upset and drank a little to much..don't know if true other than they did arrest him and released him.

Man who police say interfered with search arrested
http://tracypress.com/content/view/17669/2242/

Sheneman said Sinclair verbally badgered agents and officers as they searched a mobile home. His arrest is “unrelated to the investigation” of the girl’s disappearance, the spokesman said.

Police searched four mobile homes in the park, a building in Tracy and another in Oakdale, police announced. What they found remains undisclosed, and the FBI is analyzing evidence, Sheneman said.

Sheneman would not say whether Sinclair is one of two “persons of interest” police have identified as the investigation into Sandra’s disappearance intensifies.

[happy2bme]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Tips-Pour-In-For-Missing-Tracy-Girl-.html


Scary info in this link about SO's that live within a mile of this child.

[aproudmom]

I totally agree.

We see those who make offers and it doesn't have to come immediately after the child goes missing. Increasing the reward amount is always a good thing. It shows others care about this missing child.

And Dan is trying to get the child back safely. Imo trying to reach out to the POS is the only way that can ever happen if she is alive.

There must always be hope that she will be found safe. Without hope we have nothing left but despair. The family of Sandra still have hope in their hearts. It is what drives them onward to make another step.

Other little children have been found alive when they were nabbed by some creep.

I continue to hope that Sandra is still alive and will be found. Never would I have thought Shasta Greone would ever be found alive again or Elizabeth Smart and others but I was so happily wrong. We never know until they find them.

imo

GB O/T but have wondered what did the kid get in Dans H. wife's murder
I have wondered I remember when it happened it was so so sad did not even think he would come back to defend ever again.

TIA if you know if not I can google it

[aproudmom]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Tips-Pour-In-For-Missing-Tracy-Girl-.html


Scary info in this link about SO's that live within a mile of this child.

OMG but none lived in the trailer park right?
they seem to really be looking at these 2 POI for some reason and they live in the park if I am correct.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Tips-Pour-In-For-Missing-Tracy-Girl-.html

A search on the Megan's Law database shows that there are 12 registered sex offenders living within a mile of where Sandra Cantu disappeared. Of those 12, eight were arrested on charges of lewd acts with a child, three were found guilty of forcible rape and one had contact with a minor with intent to commit a sexual offense

[aproudmom]

Does anyone know which pic is the most recent her hair color is not the same from the missing poster she does not look the same they should put the most recent picture out there. IMO

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march312009/samdra_cantu_3-31-09.php

[odyssey]

Does anyone know which pic is the most recent her hair color is not the same from the missing poster she does not look the same they should put the most recent picture out there. IMO

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march312009/samdra_cantu_3-31-09.php

The pictures with the lighter hair are from her birthday two or three weeks ago.

[n/t]

Live Presser at 1030at kcra.com ....

Is that in an hour? It's 12:20 Eastern now and I believe CA is 3 hours behind which would make it 9:20.

[aproudmom]

From what I pulled up these 2 would be very close can someone give me her address if you know it. to see the pictures you have to copy and paste it in your browser or you can just click on the url below and it shows homes just click on them and it will bring up pictures also.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowMap.asp?frm=0

288 CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN/LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS

649 WEST ST # 10
TRACY, CA 95376
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ViewOffenderConvictions.asp?oID=CA1869408332459&aID=178918848&at=1&sid={6174EAA6-DD54-46CB-9296-A8B4AA67C395}&lat=37.737316&long=-121.425803&clr=%23ff0000&rm=0


24 W 11TH ST # 281
TRACY, CA 95376
http://www.familywatchdog.us/ViewOffenderConvictions.asp?oID=CA1869503803423&aID=178931261&at=1&sid={6174EAA6-DD54-46CB-9296-A8B4AA67C395}&lat=37.737316&long=-121.425803&clr=yellow&rm=0

m647.6 ANNOY/MOLEST CHILDREN

261(a)(2) RAPE BY FORCE/FEAR/ETC

[n/t]

Well if its at 1030 in Ca.. its 130 in NY. Right?

Yes. I hope it's good news. :rose:

[Dogmatic]

Hey all,

I'm so saddened by yet another missing child. Has it really become normal for an eight year old to walk away at 4 pm and not be reported missing until 8 pm?

I know the family is probably feeling absolutely horrible right now and I don't want to increase their pain, but I just feel sad.

She is only eight years old..............

[royals02]

Hey all,

I'm so saddened by yet another missing child. Has it really become normal for an eight year old to walk away at 4 pm and not be reported missing until 8 pm?

I know the family is probably feeling absolutely horrible right now and I don't want to increase their pain, but I just feel sad.

She is only eight years old..............

I so agree with you...I'm sorry to say this, but parents NEED to be more responsible. I don't care how safe you feel your neighborhood may be...Look, children are stolen out of their own homes...why would any parent feel their child is "safe" on the streets, alone. This means, if your child is going to a friend's house...you take them there yourself, if you child is involved in sports, you stay during their practice and not use it as a babysitter. YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO CAREFUL OR OVERPROTECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR CHILDREN!!!!!!

[aproudmom]

thank you so much

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowList.asp full list and how close they live to her address


This guy was just in a video I watched his place was searched at 4am is what he said the night or next morning after she went missing some were not even talked to for over 24 hours

First Name: JOSEPH
Last Name: FLORES
11637 W LARCH
TRACY, CA 95304
0.37 distance
288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS
Offender's age at conviction not reported


GARCIA, GEORGE MARIO
1667 W LARCH RD
TRACY, CA 95304
0.44 distance
261(a)(2) RAPE BY FORCE/FEAR/ETC

GAARDE, JOHN MARVIN
1820 ALEGRE DR
TRACY, CA 95376
0.62

288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS



First Name: VICTOR
Middle Name: RAY
Last Name: CALLAHAN

10607 W LARCH RD
TRACY, CA 95304
0.63
261(2) RAPE BY FORCE


JOHN
MERRITT

1800 MELLO CT
TRACY, CA 9537
0.67

288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS


OK I got to stop there are way to many to look at but there are alot and if the address of the 2 POI are in the park then it may be a SO thay have made it very clear the search warrants were for mobile homes in the same park...

[Dogmatic]

I so agree with you...I'm sorry to say this, but parents NEED to be more responsible. I don't care how safe you feel your neighborhood may be...Look, children are stolen out of their own homes...why would any parent feel their child is "safe" on the streets, alone. This means, if your child is going to a friend's house...you take them there yourself, if you child is involved in sports, you stay during their practice and not use it as a babysitter. YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO CAREFUL OR OVERPROTECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR CHILDREN!!!!!!

Have there been any news updates on the two "persons of interest"?

[Dogmatic]

thank you so much

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowList.asp full list and how close they live to her address


This guy was just in a video I watched his place was searched at 4am is what he said the night or next morning after she went missing some were not even talked to for over 24 hours

First Name: JOSEPH
Last Name: FLORES
11637 W LARCH
TRACY, CA 95304
0.37 distance
288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS
Offender's age at conviction not reported


GARCIA, GEORGE MARIO
1667 W LARCH RD
TRACY, CA 95304
0.44 distance
261(a)(2) RAPE BY FORCE/FEAR/ETC

GAARDE, JOHN MARVIN
1820 ALEGRE DR
TRACY, CA 95376
0.62

288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS



First Name: VICTOR
Middle Name: RAY
Last Name: CALLAHAN

10607 W LARCH RD
TRACY, CA 95304
0.63
261(2) RAPE BY FORCE


JOHN
MERRITT

1800 MELLO CT
TRACY, CA 9537
0.67

288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS


OK I got to stop there are way to many to look at but there are alot and if the address of the 2 POI are in the park then it may be a SO thay have made it very clear the search warrants were for mobile homes in the same park...


This information is gut wrenching. Why in the world won't the people of our nation protect our children and pass a one strike law.

You rape a child, you go to prison for life. These low lifes should not be living among us

[Jpanda]

I can't find any news on the press conference.....anyone?

[odyssey]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/01/earlyshow/main4910122.shtml

[Dogmatic]

The family has a security camera installed at their home?

Did I read that correctly?

[aproudmom]

This information is gut wrenching. Why in the world won't the people of our nation protect our children and pass a one strike law.

You rape a child, you go to prison for life. These low lifes should not be living among us

I know it is so scary these days I always use the watchdog site my kids are older but I have a email alert so I can let my neighbors know to watch out for their kids,

I did find 2 SO with the same last name they both kinda look alike and are very close to were she lives but they do not live togather. less than a mile from her home.
GARCIA

[aproudmom]

The family has a security camera installed at their home?

Did I read that correctly?

yeah they said someone was messing with the grandpas car or something so he put them up 2 weeks ago I think.

[aproudmom]

I have found 5 addresses with the last name of GARCIA is this a common name they all live with in a few miles of each other if even that. I put her address down in case anyone wants to look at the SO list I use this site all the time and love it gives me alerts to my email. anyway I can not look at one more SO today after reading what some have done makes me wanna throw up and that is no joke..lol..BTW Thank you trigger for getting me her address

812 w clover rd
Tracy, CA 95376

http://www.familywatchdog.us/Search.asp


cant remember who got this the other night but it shows who is booked into jail never know when you may want to see if they have arrested someone anyway here is the link just thought I would share

http://207.104.50.87/whosincustody/RecentBookings.aspx

Hope to come back and hear good news have a wonderful afternoon:seeya:

[n/t]

I was called to a meeting. Any updates from the PC? TIA

[odyssey]

I have found 5 addresses with the last name of GARCIA is this a common name they all live with in a few miles of each other if even that. I put her address down in case anyone wants to look at the SO list I use this site all the time and love it gives me alerts to my email. anyway I can not look at one more SO today after reading what some have done makes me wanna throw up and that is no joke..lol..BTW Thank you trigger for getting me her address

812 w clover rd
Tracy, CA 95376

http://www.familywatchdog.us/Search.asp


cant remember who got this the other night but it shows who is booked into jail never know when you may want to see if they have arrested someone anyway here is the link just thought I would share

http://207.104.50.87/whosincustody/RecentBookings.aspx

Hope to come back and hear good news have a wonderful afternoon:seeya:

"Garcia" would be the english equivalent in popularity of Johnson or Jones or other similarly common names .. so yes.

[Kip]

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6739929

TRACY, CA (KGO) -- Tracy police are working on a hundred new leads in the frantic search for a missing 8-year-old girl. Tracy police held a news conference at 10 am - about little Sandra Cantu's disappearance, five days ago.

[paddy01]

Code Amber News Service (CANS) Amber Alert has been issued for Sandra.

http://www.codeamber.com/cummingsfl/

CANS Missing Endangered Alert Issued for 8 Year Old California Girl
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:22 PM CT

Code Amber News Service (CANS) issued this Missing Endangered person Alert after the girl disappeared from outside her home in the Orchard Park Mobile Home Park in Tracy California on Friday (03-27). Law Enforcement have questioned two men who they consider "persons of interest" although no suspect has been identified. Two vehicles have been towed and searched and registered sex offenders in the area are being questioned. A reward is being offered for information leading to the safe return of the child. No Amber Alert has been issued in this case.

Sandra Cantu a white female, 8 years old, 4 feet tall with brown hair and brown eyes and weighs 45 pounds. She was last seen wearing a Hello Kitty T-shirt and a striped dress.

There are no suspects in this case at this time. However, due to the circumstances of the child's disappearance an abduction is strongly suspected.

There is no suspect vehicle at this time.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Tracy Police Department at 209-831-4550 or dial 911.

Search For Sandra. The aunt of Sandra Cantu, a missing 8-year-old Calif. girl, spoke with Maggie Rodriguez about details of her disappearance. Police are investigating sex offenders in the area.

[Maelstrom5]

Searchers scour Tracy dump for evidence in case of missing Tracy girl
www.contracostatimes.com/crime/ci_12047807

"Volunteers and police have been searching the Tracy waste facility today for evidence in the case of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, missing since Friday.."

[Dogmatic]

Searchers scour Tracy dump for evidence in case of missing Tracy girl
www.contracostatimes.com/crime/ci_12047807

"Volunteers and police have been searching the Tracy waste facility today for evidence in the case of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, missing since Friday.."


Dang. Not sounding good for little Sandra

[HeatherinFL]

Still nothing...
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090401/A_NEWS/90401008/-1/rss02

So sick of reading these things...

[Gapryncess]

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6738066

Click on the picture of the creepy dude for the video. That's Christian Sinclair.

One of the two people of interest is a man named Chris Sinclair. FBI agents arrested him at his house Monday night on an unrelated matter. He says when it comes to the disappearance of Sandra Cantu, he is an innocent man.


They took his cars, but it's not related. :confused:

That "creepy dude" happens to be my husbands brother and he was hungover in the pic and the interview-he was arrested because he was drunk when the police came to search. That is why he was arrested for interfering.

[doradoll]

I thought I read that he was interfering in the search in the surrounding neighborhoods, not his own house. Being drunk in your own home should not be a crime.

[n/t]

I thought I read that he was interfering in the search in the surrounding neighborhoods, not his own house. Being drunk in your own home should not be a crime.

It is if you're hindering an investigation into the disappearance of a little 8 year old girl.

Being drunk is not an excuse.

[n/t]

Code Amber News Service (CANS) Amber Alert has been issued for Sandra.

http://www.codeamber.com/cummingsfl/

CANS Missing Endangered Alert Issued for 8 Year Old California Girl
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:22 PM CT

Code Amber News Service (CANS) issued this Missing Endangered person Alert after the girl disappeared from outside her home in the Orchard Park Mobile Home Park in Tracy California on Friday (03-27). Law Enforcement have questioned two men who they consider "persons of interest" although no suspect has been identified. Two vehicles have been towed and searched and registered sex offenders in the area are being questioned. A reward is being offered for information leading to the safe return of the child. No Amber Alert has been issued in this case.

Sandra Cantu a white female, 8 years old, 4 feet tall with brown hair and brown eyes and weighs 45 pounds. She was last seen wearing a Hello Kitty T-shirt and a striped dress.

There are no suspects in this case at this time. However, due to the circumstances of the child's disappearance an abduction is strongly suspected.

There is no suspect vehicle at this time.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Tracy Police Department at 209-831-4550 or dial 911.

Search For Sandra. The aunt of Sandra Cantu, a missing 8-year-old Calif. girl, spoke with Maggie Rodriguez about details of her disappearance. Police are investigating sex offenders in the area.


5 days later. Good grief.:thumbdown:

[n/t]

Dang. Not sounding good for little Sandra

It sure doesn't. :sad:

[doctor_J]

Does anyone know why this child's hair seems to have been lightened and streaked? The original pic on AL looks nothing like her. Glad they finally released new pics but why did it take so long. She is listed as having light brown hair with picture of dark brown hair.

So hoping LE was on to something last night when the sheriff sounded so confident. Still don't understand why they were saying "not an abduction" last night. Now the MCA says looks like abduction.

[doctor_J]

I just figured out they finally issued an Amber Alert. Why Now? or better- Why not sooner? The sheriff said last night it was not an abduction. Sheeesh.

[darjeeling]

Sandra, we are rooting for you. Be safe and hope you come home soon.

[doradoll]

It is if you're hindering an investigation into the disappearance of a little 8 year old girl.

Being drunk is not an excuse.

n/t,

sorry it wasn't obvious as to what I was saying, which was.....

he obviously wasn't arrested for just being drunk as his SIL alluded

not saying that he has anything to do with this, as he is only one of many people questioned

[aproudmom]

That "creepy dude" happens to be my husbands brother and he was hungover in the pic and the interview-he was arrested because he was drunk when the police came to search. That is why he was arrested for interfering.

I heard his home was being searched and he was drunk and arrested for that reason and let go sorry we don't know these people other than what we read or hear on the net so I am sure no one meant your family any harm. I think at this time they have not ruled anyone out so we are only looking for answers at this time. jmo

[aproudmom]

I just figured out they finally issued an Amber Alert. Why Now? or better- Why not sooner? The sheriff said last night it was not an abduction. Sheeesh.

Hi doc
It seems like LE had something and now they don't or am I just not reading it right I thought for sure they had a good idea what happened and now they are saying no goshhh I hate this so many children going missing and no answers. I pray she is ok.:sad:

[aproudmom]

And this is why, with all due respect to LE, the statements made that there is no evidence that she's been abducted just makes me want to :cursing:!!

An 8 year old may shout out spontaneously "Fine, I'm running away!" and run off to a friends house for an hour or to the barn or behind the garage but I submit that an 8 year old would have to be extraordinarily street savy in order to stay gone this long.

Maybe in India where there's street children but not in this case.

I also think (MHO) that even though LE makes these statements they don't believe them either or they wouldn't be so aggressive in their efforts to find her.

This just breaks my heart as I know it does the rest of you. Imagine this family sees and reads about other children going missing and then in the blink of an eye they become the family of a missing child.

It must be like waking up in a horror show.

ITA with your post Justamama
I really thought they had something and sad to see they are kinda backing off these 2 POI now or that is how I took it on NG last night.
I pray this child comes home soon. I am wondering has anyone noticed the SIL said the father has not been in her life for at least 6 yrs and now he shows up then they said they had no idea where he was thought maybe MX but then said CA seems they had no idea what or where he was until now...I really do not think he did anything just think he his coming forward because if not they would be hunting him down anyway.

[aproudmom]

I hate posting this early and then new thread get opened does anyone know are we suppose to strart a new thread for each day? I know when it gets to 1000 post they usually open a second one even if it is the same day. I have no idea how to do it or would...Also who decides when a case is opened on the front of the board such as in Haleigh or Caylee's case? just wondered I am not aware of how this all works on here.

Good Morning everyone pray we get some good news soon

[Cheri_G]

I hate posting this early and then new thread get opened does anyone know are we suppose to strart a new thread for each day? I know when it gets to 1000 post they usually open a second one even if it is the same day. I have no idea how to do it or would...Also who decides when a case is opened on the front of the board such as in Haleigh or Caylee's case? just wondered I am not aware of how this all works on here.

Good Morning everyone pray we get some good news soon

Good morning aproudmom,

No new thread is necessary. Daily threads are only done on cases that have their own forum.

[n/t]

ITA with your post Justamama
I really thought they had something and sad to see they are kinda backing off these 2 POI now or that is how I took it on NG last night.
I pray this child comes home soon. I am wondering has anyone noticed the SIL said the father has not been in her life for at least 6 yrs and now he shows up then they said they had no idea where he was thought maybe MX but then said CA seems they had no idea what or where he was until now...I really do not think he did anything just think he his coming forward because if not they would be hunting him down anyway.

I thought that was very odd too. After 6 years he suddenly cares? Whatever.

I missed NG last night and the transcripts aren't up yet. Were there any new developments?

[aproudmom]

Good morning aproudmom,

No new thread is necessary. Daily threads are only done on cases that have their own forum.

Thanks Cheri that was another question how do they decide who has thier own forum? just wondered

BTW Good Morning

[aproudmom]

I thought that was very odd too. After 6 years he suddenly cares? Whatever.

I missed NG last night and the transcripts aren't up yet. Were there any new developments?

Morning n/t hope your having a wonderful morning
I watched NG last night and just seems so odd to me that all of a sudden he is found and not in MX but CA I am in no way saying he had anything to do with her being missing but the family or SIL really had no idea anything about him and has never met him since she has been in the family for 6 yrs....I pray he is there for the right reasons and to just help not to make anything off of his daughter he had not seen for years....

I saw the guy that got arrested the other night his SIL came on to let us know he was just drinking I think she felt some were bashing him but as I replied we don't know anyone and we are all grasping at straws that no one means to cause heartache on anyone...anyway did not know if you saw her post to someone calling him creepy I think is what it said.....

[Cheri_G]

Thanks Cheri that was another question how do they decide who has thier own forum? just wondered

BTW Good Morning

You're welcome. I think usually it happens when a case is seeing a lot of discussion and somebody PM's CW and asks her if it can have its own forum.

[n/t]

Morning n/t hope your having a wonderful morning
I watched NG last night and just seems so odd to me that all of a sudden he is found and not in MX but CA I am in no way saying he had anything to do with her being missing but the family or SIL really had no idea anything about him and has never met him since she has been in the family for 6 yrs....I pray he is there for the right reasons and to just help not to make anything off of his daughter he had not seen for years....

I saw the guy that got arrested the other night his SIL came on to let us know he was just drinking I think she felt some were bashing him but as I replied we don't know anyone and we are all grasping at straws that no one means to cause heartache on anyone...anyway did not know if you saw her post to someone calling him creepy I think is what it said.....


Good Morning to you too :smile:

Did they say how the dad found out about Sandra being missing? On the news or did someone contact him?

[aproudmom]

Good Morning to you too :smile:

Did they say how the dad found out about Sandra being missing? On the news or did someone contact him?

No not that I heard from what I got he saw it on the news or someone else did and told him. I am sure when it started going around he was in MX he figured he best come and talk to them if he had nothing to do with it so like I said I just hope those are his reasons so far I have not heard any statements from him other than 1 pleading for her return a few days ago..

Kinda shocked NG has not been on top of him for not being in her life if that is true..she was mad about the guy that kissed her 2 years ago and I was happy to hear they called the cops back then even though they still allowed her to go ask him if he had any chores she could do..I would not allow my child around him. I just do not feel his I was just being nice story that is one odd guy IMO. I could understand if he was close to the family but on the lips as NG said if he did that to my kids he would have got a knuckle sandwich with no mayo..lol
Not saying he did anything to her but that was most of the story on NG last night pretty much had to do with him and the father the SIL was on and a local reporter and LE was on the phone to answer some questions which was nothing if you ask me..jmo

[aproudmom]

You're welcome. I think usually it happens when a case is seeing a lot of discussion and somebody PM's CW and asks her if it can have its own forum.

one again thank you for letting me know so I dont have to wonder anymore..lol..:smile:

[BevAnn]

Good morning gang,

Well I hate to see she hasn't been found yet. The ups and downs in this case have been awful. UGH. :bored:

I'm still on my first cup of sweet tea, and really don't wanna go dig...so would someone tell me what the MX stands for when we are referencing Sandra's bio dad?

:smile: Thanks
Bev

[n/t]

Good morning gang,

Well I hate to see she hasn't been found yet. The ups and downs in this case have been awful. UGH. :bored:

I'm still on my first cup of sweet tea, and really don't wanna go dig...so would someone tell me what the MX stands for when we are referencing Sandra's bio dad?

:smile: Thanks
Bev


Mexico.....

[paddy01]

Missing California Girl's Father Tells Her to 'Kick, Scream' to Escape
Thursday, April 02, 2009


The father of a missing 8-year-old California girl pleaded with her to "scream, kick, do what you need to do" to escape her captors as police sifted through dumpsters and a landfill for signs of the child.

Sandra Cantu's dad Daniel said he has spoken at length with police, according to FOX San Francisco affiliate KTVU.

"I've just gotten through a couple hours of being interrogated," Cantu said.

He is divorced from Sandra's mother and lives in Mexicali, along the California border with Mexico.

He hasn't seen his daughter in a year, he said, but he does want to get a message to her.

"Honey, if you can get to a phone, dial 911, babe," KTVU quoted him as saying. "Scream. Kick. Do what you need to do."

Cantu said he hadn't taken Sandra to Mexico.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512176,00.html

[BevAnn]

Mexico.....

oh yeah...DUH! :blushing: Thanks nt...told ya I wasn't awake!

Now that I am, that makes perfect sense.

I kind of feel sorry for the dad...wonder why they have shifted to dumpsters and landfills. Something they were told in an interrogation?

So sad. :sad:

Bev

[paddy01]

Dad of missing 8-year-old California girl to undergo polygraph
April 2, 2009

The father of an 8-year-old California girl missing since last Friday has agreed to undergo a polygraph test. Daniel Cantu said he will do anything to help find his daughter, Sandra, who disappeared from a park near her home in Tracy last week.

“She’s only eight years old. She’s small, she’s alone, she’s scared,“ Cantu said. “And I love her very much. And if she can get to a phone, please run, dial 911. Do what you need to do, honey.“

Cantu says he is frustrated and upset because police in Mexico raided his home there and threatened his new wife.

http://www.counton2.com/cbd/news/national/article/dad_of_missing_8-year-old_california_girl_to_undergo_polygraph/23045/

[n/t]

Missing California Girl's Father Tells Her to 'Kick, Scream' to Escape
Thursday, April 02, 2009


The father of a missing 8-year-old California girl pleaded with her to "scream, kick, do what you need to do" to escape her captors as police sifted through dumpsters and a landfill for signs of the child.

Sandra Cantu's dad Daniel said he has spoken at length with police, according to FOX San Francisco affiliate KTVU.

"I've just gotten through a couple hours of being interrogated," Cantu said.

He is divorced from Sandra's mother and lives in Mexicali, along the California border with Mexico.

He hasn't seen his daughter in a year, he said, but he does want to get a message to her.

"Honey, if you can get to a phone, dial 911, babe," KTVU quoted him as saying. "Scream. Kick. Do what you need to do."

Cantu said he hadn't taken Sandra to Mexico.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512176,00.html


hmmm..interesting. Didn't they say yesterday that he hadn't seen Sandra since she was 2? Now it's a year?

What's with the inconsistencies in some of these missing children cases? *sigh*

[merical]

hmmm..interesting. Didn't they say yesterday that he hadn't seen Sandra since she was 2? Now it's a year?

What's with the inconsistencies in some of these missing children cases? *sigh*

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here's my ongoing list of inconsistencies in this case:

1. She was supposed to spend the night at a friend's house, now she's just out playing at a friend's house.

2. She went to one house to play/She went to two houses to play.

3. She said she was running away/She said she was going home to do homework.

4. The video cameras were installed due to random vandalism/installed to help grandpa trap cats/installed to help grandpa prevent car from being vandalized by vengeful kitty owners

5. Not a kidnapping/May be a kidnapping/could be a runaway

6. Dad is in Mexico/Dad is in Mexicali/Dad is in L.A.

7. Somebody saw her come home at least once/Nobody saw her come at least once.

So what gives???? Basically, we aren't getting any information!

[Dogmatic]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here's my ongoing list of inconsistencies in this case:

1. She was supposed to spend the night at a friend's house, now she's just out playing at a friend's house.

2. She went to one house to play/She went to two houses to play.

3. She said she was running away/She said she was going home to do homework.

4. The video cameras were installed due to random vandalism/installed to help grandpa trap cats/installed to help grandpa prevent car from being vandalized by vengeful kitty owners

5. Not a kidnapping/May be a kidnapping/could be a runaway

6. Dad is in Mexico/Dad is in Mexicali/Dad is in L.A.

7. Somebody saw her come home at least once/Nobody saw her come at least once.

So what gives???? Basically, we aren't getting any information!

Good list. I'm just guessing here, but the more I hear, the more I think that this little eight year old girl had alot of freedom to run around the neighborhood. I think the inconsistencies are stemming from the media trying to soften the fact that nobody really knew or checked up on Sandra's coming and going.

In light of the fact that a stranger had kissed her on the lips at a pool in 2006, no red flags went up to watch this child a bit closer.

That's my take on the case, but it sure doesn't make her disappearance any less important. It's just very frustrating, because her abductor probably had several hours head start before anyone even noticed that Sandra was missing. I hate it when perverts get a head start.............pulling for you Sandra

[kelloggirl]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here's my ongoing list of inconsistencies in this case:

..snip...
6. Dad is in Mexico/Dad is in Mexicali/Dad is in L.A.
...snip..



I agree with your others, but this one isn't really an inconsistency. Mexicali is in Mexico (the state of Baja California is part of Mexico), which is where the dad was when the abduction took place. Then when the dad heard of the abduction, he traveled to LA.

I'm glad he's taking a polygraph willingly. Step one is to eliminate the family. Marc Klass would approve. Hope the mom also does.

[merical]

I agree with your others, but this one isn't really an inconsistency. Mexicali is in Mexico (the state of Baja California is part of Mexico), which is where the dad was when the abduction took place. Then when the dad heard of the abduction, he traveled to LA.

I'm glad he's taking a polygraph willingly. Step one is to eliminate the family. Marc Klass would approve. Hope the mom also does.

Thanks for clearing that up, actually, I need a geography lesson...I just assumed Mexicali was a border town on the U.S. side.:blushing: Didn't the talking heads at first say he lived in L.A.? I might have misheard that, too. I should have ended my post with "but don't take my word for it" LOL.

[cutiepatootie61]

Good list. I'm just guessing here, but the more I hear, the more I think that this little eight year old girl had alot of freedom to run around the neighborhood. I think the inconsistencies are stemming from the media trying to soften the fact that nobody really knew or checked up on Sandra's coming and going.

In light of the fact that a stranger had kissed her on the lips at a pool in 2006, no red flags went up to watch this child a bit closer.

That's my take on the case, but it sure doesn't make her disappearance any less important. It's just very frustrating, because her abductor probably had several hours head start before anyone even noticed that Sandra was missing. I hate it when perverts get a head start.............pulling for you Sandra

Had to comment on the part I bolded, what in the hey are these parents thinking?
Was the mother aware that the karate king was kissing on her 6 yr old in the pool a couple of years ago? Who was watching this child in the pool 2 yrs ago? This pervert plays with kids all day teaching them martial arts? Still lives in the same park, and this woman just let's her kid roam around the park that the pervert lives in? Were charges pressed on this nasty old man for kissing on little girls? Your kid wants to go to a friends house and you know that she was violated in the past, you get off your *** and drive her or walk her there. I realize the mom is not responsible for what has happened, but for Christ sake people, watch your kids better! imo

[juliekan]

Thanks for clearing that up, actually, I need a geography lesson...I just assumed Mexicali was a border town on the U.S. side.:blushing: Didn't the talking heads at first say he lived in L.A.? I might have misheard that, too. I should have ended my post with "but don't take my word for it" LOL.

I heard this exact statement on tv this am, and only just now looked up Mexicali: it's the capital of Baja in Mexico.

[kelloggirl]

Thanks for clearing that up, actually, I need a geography lesson...I just assumed Mexicali was a border town on the U.S. side.:blushing: Didn't the talking heads at first say he lived in L.A.? I might have misheard that, too. I should have ended my post with "but don't take my word for it" LOL.

No worries, Merical! I suspected it was in Mexico, but had to look it up to make sure. The whole Baja California is actually in Mexico is very confusing!

Also, having followed lots of missing cases, it is very much the case that in the first days of the disappearance, there is a lot of misinformation reported as journalists rush to be the first to report without doing a lot of fact-checking. Unfortunately, it never gets corrected, and then these unanswered questions linger.

[Leanne Weich]

Just heard on Fox News that a press conference from Tracy, coming up shortly/ Praying for good news.

[Gapryncess]

:tongue:He actually looks the way I feel most days!

Thank you for coming on here this can't be easy for anyone. When something like this happens the finger pointing just becomes chaos and I'm just as guilty as anyone.

Since you are courageous enough to come on here (I applaud you for that) maybe you can help us/me understand what's going on with your brother in-law?

You obviously know him, he's your husbands brother. I've been married twice and I know how all that goes, even if they aren't close to each other the siblings talk about one another. Do you think that your brother in-law could have actually done this?

I watched him very carefully in that video. I watched his body language and even though he looked away during some of the questions I didn't get the impression that he was looking away because he was lying. I think he may have even been putting out a cigarette.

As far as him not wanting to talk to the media I can understand that, right now they have nothing to go on and they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to keep this story alive and also to attempt to be the 'first' station to 'break the case'.

I look forward to reading your response and I thank you in advance.

This is very hard for us also to see our family being dragged through this, and NO I do not think Chris had anything to do with this-Everyone's number one priority should be to have Sandra Cantu come home safe and unharmed. Everyone should be focusing on that 100%! I am not sure why it is neccessary for the media to bring up things that are not relevant to the case from all the news sites I have read. As far as I am concerned, the media are bottom feeders and will print anything to sell a paper or watch their show on TV-you can not believe everything you read in print, on the internet, or see on TV. As for Chris turning away at the TV interview, he was putting out a cigarette and he was hungover.

[Pinetree]

This is very hard for us also to see our family being dragged through this, and NO I do not think Chris had anything to do with this-Everyone's number one priority should be to have Sandra Cantu come home safe and unharmed. Everyone should be focusing on that 100%! I am not sure why it is neccessary for the media to bring up things that are not relevant to the case from all the news sites I have read. As far as I am concerned, the media are bottom feeders and will print anything to sell a paper or watch their show on TV-you can not believe everything you read in print, on the internet, or see on TV. As for Chris turning away at the TV interview, he was putting out a cigarette and he was hungover.

Hi....welcome to the board...and, thanks for giving us some facts. The media is probably THE last place to go for information.

[paddy01]

Search for missing Tracy girl expands to the San Joaquin Delta
04/02/2009 11:04:28 AM PDT


TRACY — Deputies today are searching the San Joaquin Delta for 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, who has been missing from her Tracy home for almost a week.

Authorities announced at a press conference this morning that the search of Old River via boats is precautionary and that the number of leads in the case has grown to 560.

Personal family videos of the Jacobsen Elementary School second-grader are expected to be released to media outlets this afternoon, as well as additional photos, to help publicize the case.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12055833

[aproudmom]

Was hoping to come and here good news:sad:


Missing California Girl's Father Tells Her to 'Kick, Scream' to Escape
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512176,00.html

The father of a missing 8-year-old California girl pleaded with her to "scream, kick, do what you need to do" to escape her captors as police sifted through trash for signs of the child.:sad:

[aproudmom]

This is very hard for us also to see our family being dragged through this, and NO I do not think Chris had anything to do with this-Everyone's number one priority should be to have Sandra Cantu come home safe and unharmed. Everyone should be focusing on that 100%! I am not sure why it is neccessary for the media to bring up things that are not relevant to the case from all the news sites I have read. As far as I am concerned, the media are bottom feeders and will print anything to sell a paper or watch their show on TV-you can not believe everything you read in print, on the internet, or see on TV. As for Chris turning away at the TV interview, he was putting out a cigarette and he was hungover.

I am really sorry your family is having such a hard time and I know the media and LE can make you think more than what it really is I am glad they searched every place in that park and have done what they need to do to find this little girl but as you said things get said that may lead people to believe someone is guilty...That statement below would scare me and really thought he had something to hide if he was only drunk they should not lead anyone to think he had anything to do with her being missing being drunk and taking cars big difference so why did they take his car did he not want his place searched?cause when they say they have 2 POI and then turn around and say no they are not so much POI it has mislead people to think they really had something on these people who's homes and cars were searched and taken

..I wish you all the best. and pray they find her soon.


Police say they're investigating two men in the case, but Watney cautioned against calling them persons of interest or suspects.

One of the men was questioned after allegedly obstructing parts of the investigation, according to Watney.

The men's homes have been searched and their vehicles confiscated, and the evidence collected is undergoing forensic analysis

Police talked to the other after learning of an incident two years ago when he reportedly kissed then 6-year-old Sandra on the mouth in a swimming pool.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512176,00.html

[aproudmom]

hmmm..interesting. Didn't they say yesterday that he hadn't seen Sandra since she was 2? Now it's a year?

What's with the inconsistencies in some of these missing children cases? *sigh*

Me and you both think a lot is odd I just read a year now since he has seen her..goshhh..nice for someone to get it right for one her own family said he was never in her life and in MX they thought then the SIL said she knew 6yrs so who said 2 and now dad says 1 year..o good god.:thumbdown:

Daniel Cantu is divorced from Sandra's mother and lives in Mexicali, along the California border with Mexico. He hasn't seen his daughter in a year, he told KTVU

[aproudmom]

Had to comment on the part I bolded, what in the hey are these parents thinking?
Was the mother aware that the karate king was kissing on her 6 yr old in the pool a couple of years ago? Who was watching this child in the pool 2 yrs ago? This pervert plays with kids all day teaching them martial arts? Still lives in the same park, and this woman just let's her kid roam around the park that the pervert lives in? Were charges pressed on this nasty old man for kissing on little girls? Your kid wants to go to a friends house and you know that she was violated in the past, you get off your *** and drive her or walk her there. I realize the mom is not responsible for what has happened, but for Christ sake people, watch your kids better! imo

They said they called the cops when it happened but I agree with your post we as parents have to watch our kids these days to many are going missing...

[aproudmom]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here's my ongoing list of inconsistencies in this case:

1. She was supposed to spend the night at a friend's house, now she's just out playing at a friend's house.

2. She went to one house to play/She went to two houses to play.

3. She said she was running away/She said she was going home to do homework.

4. The video cameras were installed due to random vandalism/installed to help grandpa trap cats/installed to help grandpa prevent car from being vandalized by vengeful kitty owners

5. Not a kidnapping/May be a kidnapping/could be a runaway

6. Dad is in Mexico/Dad is in Mexicali/Dad is in L.A.

7. Somebody saw her come home at least once/Nobody saw her come at least once.

So what gives???? Basically, we aren't getting any information!

don't forget grandpa said she was going to go to church or a movie but did not have enough money so then she left and was going to another friends house. at first she had not been seen in person since she left the first friends house..so I think we are getting a lot of stories if you ask me...plus I do not like the fact that it took 24 hours to search the SO within 5 miles not bashing LE but time is crucial in a kidnapping she did not run away she is close to a major hwy and not sure how from from the border...now they are going through trash and a river:sad:

[aproudmom]

I wonder why her hair was lightened at that age..glad they are getting more pics out

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,6937,00.html#5_0

[LostinSpace]

I wonder why her hair was lightened at that age..glad they are getting more pics out

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,6937,00.html#5_0



I think it is a combination of actual lightening and the poor quality of the first picture. The first one with the darker hair, I recognize as a school picture. This picture is much darker than the others and it would make her hair look darker. The other thing is that this may have been taken last spring and her hair could have lightened over the summer from being out in the sun. My girls' hair gets very blonde in the summer and darkens over the winter months.

She does not have any dark roots, so whatever the explanation, I don't think her hair has been lightened chemically unless the pictures were right after she had it done.

JMO

[CC I See]

I wonder why her hair was lightened at that age..glad they are getting more pics out

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,6937,00.html#5_0

.... I looked at the various pictures and also wonder why someone would allow their daughter to bleach their hair blond when the natural color is so pretty. She looks much older with it light.

My opinion is that a SO living in that mobile home park abducted Sandra. It would be just too easy for it to happen.

There was a case in Texas a few years back where a mom let her little four year old daughter out to play and in an instant she was gone. It turned out the man living next to their apartment lured her inside and killed her. They found her body still in the apartment since he didn't know how to get rid of it without being seen. Seems they did a unit to unit search and he just gave it up when LE came to the door.

In a situation when a child goes missing, I would like to see the area locked-down in an area restricting movement like they do in schools, hospitals and other buildings so that the perpetrator can't leave the area. Having a four hour head start is unacceptable.:angry:

Why did no one check on this child before then.... or did they?

[BevAnn]

Also from swimming - my boys are white blonde by August and dark brown right now!!


Bev

ETA: CC-LE said there are no SO living in the trailer park...or registered ones at least!

[CC I See]

Also from swimming - my boys are white blonde by August and dark brown right now!!


Bev

ETA: CC-LE said there are no SO living in the trailer park...or registered ones at least!

Thank you for the explanation as to hair coloring.... I guess it has to do with the texture of hair and the amount of sun exposure.

As for SOs, they are everywhere... I did a recent check in my neighborhood and was astonished. This does take in account for the ones that have moved into the area and failed to notify LE, either.

In the apartment complex where I live there are very few children. But occasionally I will see a child walking around by themselves and wonder about WHO else might be watching as well. I want to knock on their parents door and yell at them about it. That's just the MOM in me that tries to tell others how to raise their kids and following too many missing kids cases on this board. :smile:

[CC I See]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here's my ongoing list of inconsistencies in this case:

1. She was supposed to spend the night at a friend's house, now she's just out playing at a friend's house.

2. She went to one house to play/She went to two houses to play.

3. She said she was running away/She said she was going home to do homework.

4. The video cameras were installed due to random vandalism/installed to help grandpa trap cats/installed to help grandpa prevent car from being vandalized by vengeful kitty owners

5. Not a kidnapping/May be a kidnapping/could be a runaway

6. Dad is in Mexico/Dad is in Mexicali/Dad is in L.A.

7. Somebody saw her come home at least once/Nobody saw her come at least once.

So what gives???? Basically, we aren't getting any information!

...so it looks like Sandra was allowed to wander around wherever she felt the need to go and no one seem to keep up with where that was. In other words, she wasn't being properly supervised by parents or caregivers and the person responsible was somewhat neglectful in that area.

[paddy01]

Police searching for missing 8-year-old Tracy resident Sandra Cantu are taking a close look at surveillance video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJZng8vnXI

[CC I See]

Late Monday, the Tracy police did confirm that a search of mobile homes at the park where Cantu disappeared from last Friday has turned up evidence, but said the child has still not been located....

http://www.ktvu.com/news/19051010/detail.html

Has anything new come up about this information?

[paddy01]

Surveillance video is of motel near Sandra's mobile home park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJZng8vnXI

[catpaws]

[QUOTE=
As for SOs, they are everywhere... I did a recent check in my neighborhood and was astonished. This does take in account for the ones that have moved into the area and failed to notify LE, either
[/QUOTE]

And doesn't include the many that have avoided LE so far.

MOO

[paddy01]

Late Monday, the Tracy police did confirm that a search of mobile homes at the park where Cantu disappeared from last Friday has turned up evidence, but said the child has still not been located....

http://www.ktvu.com/news/19051010/detail.html

Has anything new come up about this information?

CC, I saw this too, haven't heard anything further on it, but it was in regards to one of the POI's homes. IMO, this means that she was in his home at some point in time...

[CC I See]

And doesn't include the many that have avoided LE so far.MOO

There is a news story about a girl being abducted in San Antonio and ended up in Corpus Christi, TX. She was sold for sex but was able to get away from her abductor. She still had duct tape wound around her when she was able to walk to a nearby store and yell for help.

http://www.kristv.com/global/story.asp?s=10112978

Sandra can still be alive and found... this story gave me hope not only for her but for other missing children not yet found.

[CC I See]

CC, I saw this too, haven't heard anything further on it, but it was in regards to one of the POI's homes. IMO, this means that she was in his home at some point in time...

... I wonder is it was photos they found? :scared:

[paddy01]

... I wonder is it was photos they found? :scared:


I read somewhere, not sure if it were news article or other forum that it was men'a hair dye and cuttings of long hair? LE went so far as to ask Sandra's mother for her hair brush, and pillow case.

I have searched all day today for that article! If you should come across it, please, please post it. I know I read it, just don't know where...

[CC I See]

I read somewhere, not sure if it were news article or other forum that it was men'a hair dye and cuttings of long hair? LE went so far as to ask Sandra's mother for her hair brush, and pillow case.

I have searched all day today for that article! If you should come across it, please, please post it. I know I read it, just don't know where...

...there is something about hair dye on this link.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/31/sandra-cantu-missing-ca-girl-2-poi-being-questioned/

[msgatorslayer]

There is a news story about a girl being abducted in San Antonio and ended up in Corpus Christi, TX. She was sold for sex but was able to get away from her abductor. She still had duct tape wound around her when she was able to walk to a nearby store and yell for help.

http://www.kristv.com/global/story.asp?s=10112978

Sandra can still be alive and found... this story gave me hope not only for her but for other missing children not yet found.

:scared: I watched an MSNBS special on prostitution and human trafficing last weekend.

A teenager was befriended by another girl who she thought was her own age. Long story short, she went to spend the night with the girl and ended up being held hostaged, drugged, raped, and beaten for 3 days. By many, many, men. As soon as she arrived at the house she drank some water and felt weird. Managed to call her Mom and say "help me".

When she was found, she was in the process of being 'moved'. She had been 'sold'.

It was an eye opening program.

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/02/BAT016RI7F.DTL&tsp=1

+ video to watch

04-02) 11:37 PDT Tracy -- It's been nearly a week since 8-year-old Sandra Cantu vanished from a Tracy mobile home, and police and the FBI are no closer to finding her, despite searching a local landfill, rivers and the homes of two men who live nearby.

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Eye-Oakdale-Property-in-Search-fo=1&blockID=256041&feedID=190

On Thursday, April 1st, police expanded their search to the Tracy landfill as well as a home in Oakdale. Authorities tell us the home belongs to a relative of Chris Sinclair, a resident of the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park who has been identified as a person of interest in the case. FOX40 spoke with Sinclair, who says he's not sure why he's under investigation. Sinclair said he returned home earlier this week, and both of his cars were gone. He says police asked if he knew anything about Sandra's disappearance. Martial arts instructor, Frank Wohler, is another person of interest who has been questioned by police. He lives a few houses down from Sandra and peaked the interest of investigators when they learned he kissed Sanda on the lips at the community pool two years ago. Wohler says he was just being friendly and nice. "It's kinda my nature and I haven't talked to her since. I've seen her in the park, but that's it," Wohler said.

[Leather&Lace]

I read somewhere, not sure if it were news article or other forum that it was men'a hair dye and cuttings of long hair? LE went so far as to ask Sandra's mother for her hair brush, and pillow case.

I have searched all day today for that article! If you should come across it, please, please post it. I know I read it, just don't know where...

:scared:Oh my, clippings from long hair and then men's hair dye! Maybe the person that took her was trying to disguise her as a boy to get her out of the area.

8 years old and allowed to roam around the trailer park. Never a good idea for children this age to have free roam. Even though no RSO live in the trailer park, that does not mean that no SO (uncaught) do not live there. What about a RSO that could visit some one else there?

Why would an 8 y/o little girl runaway? I know it happens but according to her family, she had no reason to just runaway.

[Leather&Lace]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_local_headlines/?Police-Eye-Oakdale-Property-in-Search-fo=1&blockID=256041&feedID=190

On Thursday, April 1st, police expanded their search to the Tracy landfill as well as a home in Oakdale. Authorities tell us the home belongs to a relative of Chris Sinclair, a resident of the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park who has been identified as a person of interest in the case. FOX40 spoke with Sinclair, who says he's not sure why he's under investigation. Sinclair said he returned home earlier this week, and both of his cars were gone. He says police asked if he knew anything about Sandra's disappearance. Martial arts instructor, Frank Wohler, is another person of interest who has been questioned by police. He lives a few houses down from Sandra and peaked the interest of investigators when they learned he kissed Sanda on the lips at the community pool two years ago. Wohler says he was just being friendly and nice. "It's kinda my nature and I haven't talked to her since. I've seen her in the park, but that's it," Wohler said.

What grown man in his right mind goes around kissing little 6 y/o girls on the mouth? Bet the parents of the children he teaches Martial Arts to :scared: were shocked to hear that one! As a parent of one of his students, I would be sitting my child down and asking some questions.

[Riverwalk!]

JVM's show
LE on the phone: found a pink Hello Kitty shirt in the trash search, but the mom said it wasn't Sandra's.
???????????

[GentleBreeze]

JVM's show
LE on the phone: found a pink Hello Kitty shirt in the trash search, but the mom said it wasn't Sandra's.
???????????

That sure is some coincidence isn't it?

I wonder if it is the correct size but for some reason the mom doesn't think it is hers. What if her mom is mistaken.

I hope it isn't her shirt but I fear that something very horrible may have happened to Sandra.

imo

[Riverwalk!]

That sure is some coincidence isn't it?

I wonder if it is the correct size but for some reason the mom doesn't think it is hers. What if her mom is mistaken.

I hope it isn't her shirt but I fear that something very horrible may have happened to Sandra.

imo

LE on the phone did say they were taking it into evidence anyway, but it just seems odd that Sandra was reported last seen with a pink Hello Kitty shirt on and some other person just happens to throw one away?

According to LE they are going through this entire weeks trash for Tracy to make sure nothing is missed. It would be too late next week to do it. Good for them.

Flyer info:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedsblog/3404091197/in/pool-bloggingbaby

[StickyBeak]

LE on the phone did say they were taking it into evidence anyway, but it just seems odd that Sandra was reported last seen with a pink Hello Kitty shirt on and some other person just happens to throw one away?

According to LE they are going through this entire weeks trash for Tracy to make sure nothing is missed. It would be too late next week to do it. Good for them.

Flyer info:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedsblog/3404091197/in/pool-bloggingbaby

Gagging here, what are the chances of a pink "Hello Kitty" shirt.
I am glad someone brought up the hair color. Was this 8 yrs old allowed to dye or streak her hair? Maybe I am too old school but I pray the answer is no. The chlorine theory makes me feel better.
I don't have good feelings just yet, runaway? Just not feasible, but hey, how many times do you hear 8 going on 25. Sickening to think, "shut off TV, no more brittany or Miley, go back to girl scouts, books, we are talking children here. JMO
Please find her safe and bring her home soon, Prayers

[Adalena935]

This is very hard for us also to see our family being dragged through this, and NO I do not think Chris had anything to do with this-Everyone's number one priority should be to have Sandra Cantu come home safe and unharmed. Everyone should be focusing on that 100%! I am not sure why it is neccessary for the media to bring up things that are not relevant to the case from all the news sites I have read. As far as I am concerned, the media are bottom feeders and will print anything to sell a paper or watch their show on TV-you can not believe everything you read in print, on the internet, or see on TV. As for Chris turning away at the TV interview, he was putting out a cigarette and he was hungover.

Please know my prayers are with you and your family and for the safe return of the beautiful little girl.

[kelloggirl]

Have I gone completely daft? (don't answer that), from the missing poster itself it says "Sandra was last seen wearing a pink "Hello Kitty" shirt...".

HUH?

Is there a chance that in the mother's grief she just isn't thinking straight?

Is there a chance that in the mother's absolute denial that this is happening she refuses to believe that the shirt is the one Sandra was wearing? I could understand it. The brain is a mysterious thing.

Let's hope LE keeps on operating as if it were hers...

Not just you...it's confusing as to why she's sure it's not the same. I'm sure there are a few pink Hello Kitty shirts made, but what on earth are the chances would one turn up in the garbage from the mobile home park the same week Sandra went missing from the very same place?

P.S. Thanks for the Baja map, Adalena. It illustrates how close Mexicali really is to the border - Merical, you were right, you just picked the wrong side!

[royals02]

Had to comment on the part I bolded, what in the hey are these parents thinking?
Was the mother aware that the karate king was kissing on her 6 yr old in the pool a couple of years ago? Who was watching this child in the pool 2 yrs ago? This pervert plays with kids all day teaching them martial arts? Still lives in the same park, and this woman just let's her kid roam around the park that the pervert lives in? Were charges pressed on this nasty old man for kissing on little girls? Your kid wants to go to a friends house and you know that she was violated in the past, you get off your *** and drive her or walk her there. I realize the mom is not responsible for what has happened, but for Christ sake people, watch your kids better! imo

I could not agree with you more. I know its not "directly" the mom's fault....however the lack of supervision just speaks volumes as does the fact of her allowing the bleaching of her daughters hair at 8 years old....I just dont get it. This whole situation makes me sooooooo angry. Guess some people find it too hard to put the child's best interest before their own. Also seems like alot of people knew about the 60 year old man kissing this child on the mouth, yet I have not heard that the mom did anything about, like maybe at least filing a complaint with the authorities.

[BevAnn]

gapryncess, I know you fully believe in Chris Sinclair's innocence, but it seems they have reason to really be zeroing in on him...

How is he related to the Cantu family?

Bev

[juliekan]

gapryncess, I know you fully believe in Chris Sinclair's innocence, but it seems they have reason to really be zeroing in on him...

How is he related to the Cantu family?

Bev

from the article: "The FBI searched the Oakdale, Calif., home of a man related to the neighbor of a missing 8-year-old girl."

sounds like he's related to a neighbor, not the Cantu family