Phil Spector closing arguments begin today

[logbump]

FINALLY Jeffrey!

[KatyDid]

Prosecutor Jackson attacks Spector defense's 14 points. Says stats that 99% of intra-oral gunshot wounds are self-inflicted mean nothing.

michael linder

[kennedy06]

I wonder where he is going with Joe D., hmmm Joe was married to Marilyn Monroe and stepped in after her death to take care of everything.:confused: PS was born after or at the end of the depression. I'm sure it wil make sense in the end!

I mean those are the only connections I can think of to the case.

[oodi1]

AJ is aiming for the center field fence!!!

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: Partial fingerprint in wet blood on gun grip must be Spector’s, refuting claims he never held gun.

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: Spector's DNA not on gun is "red herring." Gun never tested for Spector DNA, he says, labs only tested DNA in blood on gun

[SHORTSIRKT]

Hi everyone
Just lurking and on pins and needles checking in making lunch can't wait to hear AJ's closing. I absolutely can't believe what DW did with the " death" chair. I was appauled. How creepy.

[QueeeenBeeee]

Jackson: Spector's DNA not on gun is "red herring." Gun never tested for Spector DNA, he says, labs only tested DNA in blood on gun

EXCELLENT point AJ:thumbsup:

thanks curlyjo..............really appreciate the twitter updates

[Tracian]

Hi everyone
Just lurking and on pins and needles checking in making lunch can't wait to hear AJ's closing. I absolutely can't believe what DW did with the " death" chair. I was appauled. How creepy.

The man has no soul. As I posted the other day, he shows no compassion for anyone. Even if I bought this was an accident, why does he display such hostility to Lana?

[Curlyjo]

EXCELLENT point AJ:thumbsup:

thanks curlyjo..............really appreciate the twitter updates

no problem...I so wish I could be there myself but having these twitters along with sprocket and M2C bringing these updates sure help us!!!!

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: No GSR on clothing because clothing never tested. Demo on asst showing why no blood spatter on Lana's right sleeve

[SHORTSIRKT]

Could they have tested the gun and jacket after the first trial? To see if PS's DNA was on the gun?

[Curlyjo]

Could they have tested the gun and jacket after the first trial? To see if PS's DNA was on the gun?

I don't know it may be degraded or not enough to run tests needed

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: Bruises on LC's hands, , tongue contrary to defense claims of no evidence of struggle. "Except for a dead women in foyer."

[bearwds]

Jury Brought in . .
AJ says he will take about 1/2 hour

i will post later - need to listen to this.

AJ talking about baseball, the great depression and Joe Di Maggio.

. . . I hope this ENDS with a HOMERUN!

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Bless your heart 2-cents...appreciate your time and trouble.

Tried to speculate what those 3 subjects had in common.

"baseball, Di Maggio and great depression".

Here we go... The triumph of the will over adversity..??

Di Maggio and baseball... as an immigrant who overcame severe injuries and physical pain to be inducted in the Hall of Fame in 1955.

The Great Depression.. The great mass of people who overcame severe economic problems.

Refer...to Lana overcoming career setbacks and horrible injuries to wrists..but able to pick herself up and continue.

My take/guess only.


bearwds

[QueeeenBeeee]

Jackson: Bruises on LC's hands, , tongue contrary to defense claims of no evidence of struggle. "Except for a dead women in foyer."

omg i love him:thumbsup:

yeah, everything was fine except for that little problem

justice for Lana!

[mbmb]

I just asked Michael Linder to tell us if AJ uses the famous *DON'T GO* Lana from the 1st Trial...we'll see!

[kennedy06]

Ok that makes sense bear!

[QueeeenBeeee]

I just asked Michael Linder to tell us if AJ uses the famous *DON'T GO* Lana from the 1st Trial...we'll see!

perfect mbmb................thanks for thinking to ask him that......

i'm dying to know if AJ uses that again, so powerful!

[lane99]

Interesting! Blow by blow account here in real time. Nice.

Ok, I can see how this is going. Considering what they had to work with, the defense actually did a very good job in their closing argument. Well crafted smoke and mirrors.

But it looks like the prosection is going to unmask the deceptions. So the jury is going to have everything they need to make the right decsion and will have no one to blame but themselves if they don't.

But expect that they will. Cue the fat lady.

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: Tooth fragment evidence proves Spector' location within two feet and to LC’s right. Says 5 "abused" women witnesses credible.

[mbmb]

perfect mbmb................thanks for thinking to ask him that......

i'm dying to know if AJ uses that again, so powerful!

That one was for bearwds :wub:

[Curlyjo]

Jackson: Says of each female witnesses, Spector's pattern is indelibly etched: Women, alcohol, loss of control, pulls a gun.

[tartangirl]

This is so exciting! Reading as it happens, so to speak!

way to go AJ!


Pretty good and a lot of people here for a trial that had no interest to the MSM :w00t:


~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her~

[QueeeenBeeee]

i'm on pins and needles here:sad:

i'm sitting in court (here, wish i was there) and praying my battery doesn't give out, or y'all will hear me scream from Georgia:rolleyes:

question.............will the jury deliberate tomorrow since a friday and they haven't been working those?? I can't remember if i've read this or not

thanks

[bearwds]

Jackson: Says of each female witnesses, Spector's pattern is indelibly etched: Women, alcohol, loss of control, pulls a gun.

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That's why, in both trials, the defense fought so desperatly to keep PBA witnesses excluded.

PBA's were the first nail.

(not forgetting De Souza)


bearwds

[coinoutlet]

i'm on pins and needles here:sad:

i'm sitting in court (here, wish i was there) and praying my battery doesn't give out, or y'all will hear me scream from Georgia:rolleyes:

question.............will the jury deliberate tomorrow since a friday and they haven't been working those?? I can't remember if i've read this or not

thanks

YES they will!....IF NECESSARY!

[oodi1]

i'm on pins and needles here:sad:

i'm sitting in court (here, wish i was there) and praying my battery doesn't give out, or y'all will hear me scream from Georgia:rolleyes:

question.............will the jury deliberate tomorrow since a friday and they haven't been working those?? I can't remember if i've read this or not

thanks


I think they will on Friday... court is dark on Monday and Tuesday.

[Curlyjo]

In barely audible whisper, Jackson recounts events of 2/3/2003 starting at House of Blues. “You’d tell Lana, 'Don’t go.'”

[SHORTSIRKT]

Yes I think Sprocket said they would be working this Friday. But Monday and Tuesday court will be dark because it's a California State Holiday.

[mbmb]

i'm on pins and needles here:sad:

i'm sitting in court (here, wish i was there) and praying my battery doesn't give out, or y'all will hear me scream from Georgia:rolleyes:

question.............will the jury deliberate tomorrow since a friday and they haven't been working those?? I can't remember if i've read this or not

thanks

Yes, I'm almost positive they will.

[Curlyjo]

In barely audible whisper, Jackson recounts events of 2/3/2003 starting at House of Blues. “You’d tell Lana, 'Don’t go.'”

You rock AJ:thumbsup:

[oodi1]

He swings... he connects... it's going, going, GOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!! HOMERUN FOR ALAN JACKSON!!!!

[KatyDid]

GO AJ!!!!

He is using the don't go closing!! :thumbup:

[QueeeenBeeee]

thanks for the responses guys......i appreciate it

so glad they will deliberate!!

YIKES, no monday or tuesday???:angry:

well, i can't wait that long..........lol..............so hopefully verdict today or tomorrow:thumbsup:

[alldone]

AJ said it "don't go"...and there are just as many tears in my eyes as the first time

[QueeeenBeeee]

In barely audible whisper, Jackson recounts events of 2/3/2003 starting at House of Blues. “You’d tell Lana, 'Don’t go.'”

OMG

I HAVE CHILLS

and more than one tear in my eye:sad:

[Curlyjo]

Jackson wraps up: Lana Clarkson "is entitled to your justice. Thank you." Judge to read jury instructions after break.
less than 10 seconds ago from web

[mbmb]

In barely audible whisper, Jackson recounts events of 2/3/2003 starting at House of Blues. “You’d tell Lana, 'Don’t go.'”

Thank Goodness AJ used it again :smile:

[QueeeenBeeee]

Jackson wraps up: Lana Clarkson "is entitled to your justice. Thank you." Judge to read jury instructions after break.
less than 10 seconds ago from web

i'm crying

thank you sooooooooooooo much for these updates friends!!

justice for lana, at long last!!!

[SHORTSIRKT]

After the break the Jury will get the instructions. I can't believe it's coming to and end. FINALLY deliberations!!!!

[Curlyjo]

Jury gone, judge denies defense move for mistrial. Argue: Did coroner Dr. Lee "steal" acrylic nail fragment? Still a mystery.

[bearwds]

i'm on pins and needles here:sad:

i'm sitting in court (here, wish i was there) and praying my battery doesn't give out, or y'all will hear me scream from Georgia:rolleyes:

question.............will the jury deliberate tomorrow since a friday and they haven't been working those?? I can't remember if i've read this or not

thanks

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Hey Beeeee... LTNS

My recollection is that court will be in session this Friday. Judge Fidler usually uses that day to assign cases as part of his administrative duties. Jurors could reach a verdict and a call to principles for a session, probably within an hour.

Monday and Tuesday are dark court days.

My guess is a verdict Friday..though it may be today if Foreperson allows a vote within 3 days....


bearwds

[cook4andy]

Juror #9 or anyone else who might know. How did the prior jury react to AJ's "Don't go"?? His words had a big impact on me. :crying:

Thank you and may justice be served this time.

[tartangirl]

Alan Jackson really is the whole ball of wax, the cat's meow and all and any other good and complete thing there is on this earth right about now. :wub:


~as always, my proud opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her~

[Curlyjo]

We'lll be on verdict watch. Tune back in for reaction from the courtroom. For now, that's a wrap from Criminal Courts in Los Angeles

[QueeeenBeeee]

thanks everyone for allowing me to jump in here at the end, i appreciate the responses...

my family and friends don't "get" my addiction..........rofl

jumping off to find an outlet to recharge laptop during jury charge and one of my cases is about to be called.

see you all later i hope!

[SoggyBayou]

Navy Grog anyone?

[sunstar]

Pretty good and a lot of people here for a trial that had no interest to the MSM :w00t:


~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her~


Good afternoon! :seeya: thanks to everybody for the updates!! I'll keep reading through here during the day just in case the jury has a nice surprise for us. Good work, AJ! :smile:

[KatyDid]

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Hey Beeeee... LTNS

My recollection is that court will be in session this Friday. Judge Fidler usually uses that day to assign cases as part of his administrative duties. Jurors could reach a verdict and a call to principles for a session, probably within an hour.

Monday and Tuesday are dark court days.

My guess is a verdict Friday..though it may be today if Foreperson allows a vote within 3 days....


bearwds

What happens if they take a first vote and all are guilty? TIA!

[sunstar]

What happens if they take a first vote and all are guilty? TIA!
Hi Katy! :seeya: wouldn't that be so nice??!!

[tartangirl]

Navy Grog anyone?


I have always wanted to try one of those...at least a few sips of it anyway. I would like a Mexicali or a very dry
vodka Martini with three olives and a twist if we are doing any fantasy drinking here....:w00t:


~as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[SHORTSIRKT]

Got some housework to do. Be back later

[gmiller]

Sprocket has a 10:28 update.

[mbmb]

What happens if they take a first vote and all are guilty? TIA!

This actually happened to me. The 1st jury I ever sat on. We elected a foreman, took a secret vote: all guilty. So we sat there and chatted for about a half hour.

[cook4andy]

I can't wait for Sprocket's update of the Jury's reaction to AJ's "don't go".

[gmiller]

Am I reading this right...is there another problem with jury instructions?

[KatyDid]

I think the deliberations would be over!

Seriously. I think they would at least wait a decent length of time before ringing the buzzer. Maybe get lunch first?

I would love that!! Verdict today. :biggrin:

[tartangirl]

http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/full-court-press/from-criminal-courts-building/






~ as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[penguin01]

I would love that!! Verdict today. :biggrin: I know I always say this, but .........Your lips to God's ears:thumbsup:

[Moe76]

Does anyone know if the verdict will be televised?

[My 2 Cents]

W-O-W. . .

I had welled up tears in my eyes when he finished and at one previous point. WHAT AN AMAZING ATTORNEY.

One juror was crying softly when Aj finished.

[cook4andy]

W-O-W. . .

I had welled up tears in my eyes when he finished and at one previous point. WHAT AN AMAZING ATTORNEY.

One juror was crying softly when Aj finished.


Thank you SO much My 2 cents:thumbsup: For all the updates.

I pray someome shows a clip of AJ's ending.

[KatyDid]

Hi Katy! :seeya: wouldn't that be so nice??!!

Hello friend sunstar :wub:

Yes, it would be a wonderful sight to behold, IMO.

[KatyDid]

This actually happened to me. The 1st jury I ever sat on. We elected a foreman, took a secret vote: all guilty. So we sat there and chatted for about a half hour.

COOL!!!! I'm praying for the same with this jury. :thumbsup:

[KatyDid]

W-O-W. . .

I had welled up tears in my eyes when he finished and at one previous point. WHAT AN AMAZING ATTORNEY.

One juror was crying softly when Aj finished.

Awesome that you can be there. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and comments. :smile:

[spydernweb2006]

I am so happy were in deliberations but sad that I couldnt see the closings. I honestly think we'll see a verdict by tomorrow. I dont think the jury wants to hang around any longer then necessary. IMO PS2 was alot stronger Pro case then Defense case and the jury wont be out long.


JMHO

Hugs,
Spyder

[My 2 Cents]

The morning break is over and JF is going over JURY INSTRUCTIONS. He said it will take about 45 minutes.

Before break JF advised Gallery that they could stay for instructions, but that NO ONE COULD LEAVE DURING INSTRUCTIONS.

AND IF ANYONE'S CELL PHONE VIBRATED, MADE A NOISE ETC . . . (DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PENALTY WOULD BE)

FILDER JUST MADE JOKE TO JURORS ABOUT NOT EATING PISTACHIO NUTS BEFORE COVERING JURY INSTRUCTIONS - - THEN GAGS A LITTLE. HE SAYS, "NOW I KNOW HOW MY CAT FEELS WHEN SHE GETS A HAIRBALL".

AFTER BREAK: (and before Jury brought in)

Weinberg addresses court:

Weinberg readdresses rewriting that info he wanted left in jury instructions. DW wants it left in and left written "as is". He states why.
(This is what JF had stated previously that it was "argument" and argument is NOT allowed.)

JF denied this request by DW again

[tartangirl]

W-O-W. . .

I had welled up tears in my eyes when he finished and at one previous point. WHAT AN AMAZING ATTORNEY.

One juror was crying softly when Aj finished.


My eyes were also leaking and I was here across the country. I feel as though each time AJ or Truc Do was there to present that Lana was there with them. :wink:

Thank You Again for you you do for us.

~ as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[penguin01]

Bet the jury was dry-eyed when Whine-berg finished yesterday.

Not sure about where the issue of Dr. Lee and the allegedly missing piece of fingernail came in (mentioned on ML's Twitter site): what exactly did AJ say about it?
I'm thinking that it might have been more evidence of a struggle - like the bruises and the tongue .... and that they think Dr. Lee may have "disappeared" it because he was working for the defense. Am I remembering that correctly?

[bearwds]

Hope DW gets his paycheck before verdict....:mellow:


bearwds

[Curlyjo]

Hope DW gets his paycheck before verdict....:mellow:


bearwds

LOL that was great:thumbsup:

[KatyDid]

Bet the jury was dry-eyed when Whine-berg finished yesterday.

Not sure about where the issue of Dr. Lee and the allegedly missing piece of fingernail came in (mentioned on ML's Twitter site): what exactly did AJ say about it?
I'm thinking that it might have been more evidence of a struggle - like the bruises and the tongue .... and that they think Dr. Lee may have "disappeared" it because he was working for the defense. Am I remembering that correctly?

I didn't understand that either and was wondering what it meant.

[breezie]

Hope DW gets his paycheck before verdict....:mellow:


bearwds

I hope he doesn't and has to sue Phil. Talk about justice...lol.

[wasapi]

We have all known this moment was coming for a long time. Little did I know how emotional I would feel.

Lana, your justice is almost here. You can rest in peace.

[cook4andy]

We have all known this moment was coming for a long time. Little did I know how emotional I would feel.

Lana, your justice is almost here. You can rest in peace.


I pray justice is served this time.

My heart breaks for Lana's family, forced to watch the defense degrade her.

[penguin01]

We have all known this moment was coming for a long time. Little did I know how emotional I would feel.

Lana, your justice is almost here. You can rest in peace. I was just thinking the same thing. I have come to feel as though I know her - and love her as a friend. So glad that soon she can rest in peace.

[KatyDid]

Hope DW gets his paycheck before verdict....:mellow:


bearwds

:laugh::laugh:

That cracked me up!!

[hiitsme]

:laugh::laugh:

That cracked me up!!

Me too. I don't think the "Mrs." will be in any hurry to pay off his debts!

[My 2 Cents]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THET STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did weinberg just admit that dr lee found lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.

[GPSpector]

It is Ms. Clarkson that I hope can get some peace out of all this turmoil.
♥May Lana RIP (Finally)♥

[GPSpector]

Yea, it's starting to snow :thumbsup:

Well, it's been snowing for about an hour but it's now actually starting to add up.

[oodi1]

ok, just got here,..,. what did i miss? is it to the jury yet? is the twitter guy twitting or tweeting?


I think they are getting ready for jury instructions. Probably won't start deliberating until after lunch.

[oodi1]

Yea, it's starting to snow :thumbsup:

Well, it's been snowing for about an hour but it's now actually starting to add up.


Send some to California!! We desperately need it!! :biggrin:

[My 2 Cents]

Jury instructions are over

weinberg states he only needs about 15 minutes once a verdict is reached. Aj says fine.

Read backs - does ps want to be present in court for read backs?

Ps - yes

[penguin01]

Yea, it's starting to snow :thumbsup:

Well, it's been snowing for about an hour but it's now actually starting to add up. Ooooh send some over here! I missed taking photos last time (a few weeks ago). It was so pretty - and gone too fast.

[Curlyjo]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THET STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did weinberg just admit that dr lee found lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.

WOW!!!!! :w00t:

[Curlyjo]

Tru TV is reporting on trial right now

[warhorse46]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THET STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did weinberg just admit that dr lee found lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.



Awesome! Go AJ!!!

[penguin01]

Jury instructions are over

weinberg states he only needs about 15 minutes once a verdict is reached. Aj says fine.

Read backs - does ps want to be present in court for read backs?

Ps - yes Did the jury instructions cover the stuff that happened last time? I mean is Fidler clear that he is available to the Jury?

[tartangirl]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THE STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did Weinberg just admit that Dr lee found Lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.



How I wish that I had seen all of that. Wowsa....drama still in the courtroom......will you keep your eye on DW's nose for me? See if it starts to grow....telltale sign don't you know? :wink:


~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

[gogo]

One of the most disappointing things in my life was missing A.J. try this case again. I adore him and his style. Question, will we ever be see the closing ? will it be published on some video site. I am not comp. savvy but often times this happens. Was any outlet allowed to tape it.? thanks. gogo

[Curlyjo]

Hurry they are showing clips of closing arguements from defense right now...maybe we will get to see AJ

[oodi1]

Tru TV is reporting on trial right now


What time is it where you are now?

[GPSpector]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THET STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did weinberg just admit that dr lee found lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.


DW has done nothing but disappoint me. I'm sure I could have helped my father better then he did. Shame he had no interest in talking with his sons. At least I tried to call during the 1st trial.

Well, it's now in the hands of the Jury.

[Curlyjo]

What time is it where you are now?

11:50am az

[oodi1]

11:50am az

It's the same time here, but it isn't on.... still covering that New Mexico trial. :sad:

[warhorse46]

If I am not mistaken, after I actually spoke with Juror #9, it was the Foreman that had convinced the other Jurors that it is only the Foreman that can bring issues to the Judge. If what he said was true (and I fave no reason to doubt him), do you honestly believe that Juror #10 would have submitted a complaint about himself?? You are welcome to ask him yourself if he has not already replied.

I do not know how he was able to grant himself any power over them but that is what he did. It was not until after the hung Jury that they found out that the Foreman has no other privileges other then just being the one that reads the vote.

Also, to a prior comment, I do believe the quote "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God" came from a time when it seemed best to put the fear of God in someone to tell the truth and it worked, then.

It seemed that you implied that the Bible, or more specifically, the 10 Commandments are referred to in our modern day Court System. Sorry, it is not. They may have been the back done to early Law, again using the Fear of God to promote good behavior, that is no longer the case with the exception of those strongly focused in their religion.

Here's a link that discuses a Case regarding the 10 Commandments at Courthouses:
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=15483

10 Commandments on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

How many of those Commandments are really enforced in our Laws and in the Courtroom? Sorry, none of them as they are all superseded by our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

They are however, a great guild for living life but no legal entity will enforce them on the grounds of Separation of Church & State.



Thank you. You said what I was trying to say so much better than I.

[jusdafacts]

It's the same time here, but it isn't on.... still covering that New Mexico trial. :sad:

Try this link:

http://www.blinkotv.com/

[oodi1]

Try this link:

http://www.blinkotv.com/

Thanks! I got to see about 2 seconds. But it looks like the coverage is on Ford and Banfield which doesn't come on till 1PM here, so I'll catch it then.

[Curlyjo]

It's the same time here, but it isn't on.... still covering that New Mexico trial. :sad:


Weird...they showed a bit of Truc Do and the DW but no AJ. :confused: Hopefully, they will tomorrow when the update US :w00t: on the trial!!!!

[Curlyjo]

Sprocket just posted:11:40 am: The jury entered the jury room. 11:43 am: Court is out of session and we are on VERDICT WATCH.

[Curlyjo]

and it will be the last 15 minutes of their show... no pics of aj for you though

NOPE....:sad:

[bearwds]

Thanks! I got to see about 2 seconds. But it looks like the coverage is on Ford and Banfield which doesn't come on till 1PM here, so I'll catch it then.

************************************

Just the last 10-minutes of Banfield ("I'm no lawyer") and Ford.

Beth looks as yummy as ever.

Amazed that DW addressed Lee and the broken item in the way he did.

Amazed.


bearwds

[Curlyjo]

Sprocket also posted: I will try to find out if the jurors will deliberate through lunch.

[Daisy'sMom]

DW has done nothing but disappoint me. I'm sure I could have helped my father better then he did. Shame he had no interest in talking with his sons. At least I tried to call during the 1st trial.

Well, it's now in the hands of the Jury.

How are you holding up? I know it is a hard day for you today and whatever the outcome, please know that I am thinking of you.

Peace for the Clarkson Family and the Spector Children.

[oodi1]

and it will be the last 15 minutes of their show... no pics of aj for you though

Thanks Why! I'll turn the channel from Tiger Woods for 15 minutes to catch this.

[GPSpector]

Ooooh send some over here! I missed taking photos last time (a few weeks ago). It was so pretty - and gone too fast.

I do not recall how long since the last real snow fall and Feb - April are usually our heaviest snow falls.

Well, it's really coming down hard now. I just heard on CNN (Blinko) that Denver is getting buried.

I hope this is a good sign for the Trial's outcome.

By the way, I've had BlinkoTV (at the recommendation of a poster) on all morning and I have yet to hear so much as 1 word about this case. I've switched from TruTV & CNN. Seems to be a waste of my time.

[newsjunkie]

DW has done nothing but disappoint me. I'm sure I could have helped my father better then he did. Shame he had no interest in talking with his sons. At least I tried to call during the 1st trial.

Well, it's now in the hands of the Jury.


This must be very conflicting for you. A great big hug from Canada. You will be alright :mellow:

[dreamlawyer]

Just checking in to see how this retrial is coming (haven't been on the boards in quite a while) I saw a crawl acrossed the bottom of the screen the other day that closings were taking place. Is there anywhere that I can see a replay of closings or are these available no where?

[GPSpector]

How are you holding up? I know it is a hard day for you today and whatever the outcome, please know that I am thinking of you.

Peace for the Clarkson Family and the Spector Children.

I'm ok, I'm just tired of trying to chase down all the video clips that I keep missing. I really do not like BlinkoTV. Next time there is a clip shown, please say what channel.:sad:

[newsjunkie]

I believe the abc camera that was allowed in was probably for a 20/20 or 60 minutes program. That would explain why not much camera coverage on the news.
I would check youtube after the verdict. JMO

[KatyDid]

AFTER CLOSING ARGUMENTS BY AJ AND JURY LEAVES, WEINBERG GETS UP BEFORE JUDGE AND HE IS PI$$#@ OFF.

DURING AJ'S CLOSING - HE WENT STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE "DEFENSE'S 14 POINTS" that Weinberg used to support SPECTORS's innocence - - over the 1 3/4 days.

During these 14 points (I will post in detail later about all of them) NUMBER 14 was:

14. BROKEN ACRYLIC NAIL

AJ discussed the "broken nail" on Lana Clarkson's hand.
AJ asked the jurors . . . WHERE'S THE NAIL? IF IT BROKE WHEN THE GUN WAS FIRED - - WHERE IS IT? THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE WENT THROUGH THE CRIME SCENE AREA WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE DIDN'T FIND ANY BROKEN NAIL. WHERE IS IT? IF IT BROKE IN THAT HOUSE WE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT. SO WHERE IS IT? ITS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE THAT NIGHT OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE FOUND IT.

OMG . . . that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

So AJ finishes his closing and Jury Leaves and Weinberg jumps up and asks for MISTRIAL . WEINBERG CLAIMS - - UNFAIR!!!
DW says it is not fair - no way to fix this error now. must allow mistrial. Its not the defense's fault that Dr Henry Lee not allowed to testify, yadda yadda yadda.

AJ: I AM FLABBERGASTED. FLABBERGASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DR HENRY LEE FOUND SOMETHING . . .AND HE STOLE IT! STOLE IT! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS . . .BUT HE STOLE IT.WHAT DID HENRY LEE FIND - I DON'T KNOW.

DW: NOW STATES THAT DR LEE DID FIND A NAIL, "EVERYONE BELIEVES IT WAS A NAIL AND HE WAS KEPT OFF THE STAND"

JF: I DIDN'T KEEP HIM OFF THET STAND. THAT WAS THE DEFENSES DECISION. NOTHING WAS EVERY ESTABLISHED AS TO WHAT HE FOUND. AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO CALL HIM TO TESTIFY.

MOTION DENIED

ha, ha . . did weinberg just admit that dr lee found lana's nail? ha, ha i think he did.

OMG!!!! This is TERRIFIC!!!! I am LMBO!! That desreves a :w00t:

[dreamlawyer]

any idea if he will be free pending sentencing or appeal?

I am almost positive that if he's convicted he will be handcuffed and taken away to jail after the verdict.

[KatyDid]

verdict watch :thumbsup:


ps----------->:scared:

:laugh: That would be my guess too.

[dreamlawyer]

not available.. just snippets here and there......

most detailed is at http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/ a blog

Thank you, much appreciated :thumbsup:

[newsjunkie]

any idea if he will be free pending sentencing or appeal?

I do not think he will serve any time in prison if they let him out until sentencing. Just a gut feeling I have......sorry GP
I have been lurking here but been following sprockett through both trials. I want to thank her and My2Cents especially but most of all, all you posters. It was almost as good as following it on stream :thumbup:

[jusdafacts]

12:10 pm update on: Sprocket's Blog (http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/)

[softballmom]

12:10 pm: I'm down in the cafeteria right now. I don't have a "precise" jury clock at this point. While Harriet Ryan, myself, and the CNN reporter were asking Pat Kelly from the PIO office about notifications, a single buzzer went off. That was about 11:50 am. We find out from the bailiff later that a single buzzer means they have started deliberations. Two buzzes means they have a question. Three buzzes means they've reached a verdict.

The bailiff did tell us that they would not be having a working lunch today. They were going to break, have a relaxing lunch and then get back to work. I hope to report when they've selected a foreperson.

I'm going to eat my lunch now, and then work on getting an entry up on the final part of Jackson's rebuttal closing.

[dreamlawyer]

I'm on a 3 hour tape delay in the west, is IS giving any updates at all about this today? As of now Jamie Floyd is still on here with the triple homicide trial.

[jusdafacts]

I'm on a 3 hour tape delay in the west, is IS giving any updates at all about this today? As of now Jamie Floyd is still on here with the triple homicide trial.

Yes, the last 15 minutes of Banfield & Ford shows some clips of closing arguments and a breakdown by Beth Karas

[penguin01]

I do not think he will serve any time in prison if they let him out until sentencing. Just a gut feeling I have......sorry GP
I have been lurking here but been following sprockett through both trials. I want to thank her and My2Cents especially but most of all, all you posters. It was almost as good as following it on stream :thumbup: I think that the court is as aware as we are that PS might do something to end this. I'm sure they are keeping a sharp eye on him and will not give him the opportunity to hurt himself or take his own life. Hope so, anyway.

[Curlyjo]

I believe the abc camera that was allowed in was probably for a 20/20 or 60 minutes program. That would explain why not much camera coverage on the news.
I would check youtube after the verdict. JMO

I think you are right and I won't miss that show~ :thumbsup:

[Curlyjo]

12:10 pm: I'm down in the cafeteria right now. I don't have a "precise" jury clock at this point. While Harriet Ryan, myself, and the CNN reporter were asking Pat Kelly from the PIO office about notifications, a single buzzer went off. That was about 11:50 am. We find out from the bailiff later that a single buzzer means they have started deliberations. Two buzzes means they have a question. Three buzzes means they've reached a verdict.

The bailiff did tell us that they would not be having a working lunch today. They were going to break, have a relaxing lunch and then get back to work. I hope to report when they've selected a foreperson.

I'm going to eat my lunch now, and then work on getting an entry up on the final part of Jackson's rebuttal closing.

When she mentions buzzes is gives me goosebumps:smile:

[coinoutlet]

Wasn't it 20/20 that did a program during PS1 that caused a big ruckus?

I think it was Dateline

[Daisy'sMom]

I am having a hard time right now. I am trying to start dinner, making a roast and it's hard to cut onions and carrots when I want to be checking back here to see what is happening.
I wish I could have buzzer here to let me know what is going on.:wink:

[dreamlawyer]

Yes, the last 15 minutes of Banfield & Ford shows some clips of closing arguments and a breakdown by Beth Karas

Thanks! Great news! Can't wait to see it but couldn't they have devoted a little more time than 15 minutes?!?!?
I'll take what I can get though.

[dreamlawyer]

Wasn't it 20/20 that did a program during PS1 that caused a big ruckus?

It was Dateline, is the ABC camera the only one in the courtroom...could be used as a pool camera for all outlets.

[sunstar]

DW has done nothing but disappoint me. I'm sure I could have helped my father better then he did. Shame he had no interest in talking with his sons. At least I tried to call during the 1st trial.

Well, it's now in the hands of the Jury.
My thoughts are with you, GP. :smile:

[Laura]

Today one of the commentators mentioned that a witness spoke Brazilian. Brazilians speak Portugese. But, I hope Spector is convicted.

[gogo]

:thumbsup::laugh: yes she does

beth is a beautiful woman. I noticed today that her eyes looked dark brown. I thought perhaps it was my tv. Her eyes are usually gorgeous turquoise blue , are they not? also I loved her hair thick and curly the way she used to wear it. she looks beautiful anyway. Am I going coo coo?

[sunstar]

Today one of the commentators mentioned that a witness spoke Brazilian. Brazilians speak Portugese. But, I hope Spector is convicted.

They must have been referring to Adriano. I remember back to the first trial the defense was trying to make like he didn't understand English and I think it was them who implied he spoke Spanish (in a derogatory way). :mad:

[newsjunkie]

PS! did the jurors always go home about 4pm? I don't ever remember them working late or on weekends. :confused:

[newsjunkie]

I think it was Dateline


I think the rukus was that one of the jurors worked for Dateline.

[GPSpector]

Do any of these shows feed live to the Internet. If not, are they on CNN or Tru-TV? If so, what are the times.

I only have the Internet and now BlinkoTV. I have no clue about times or the channels for the shows that are being mentioned here.

[Curlyjo]

Do any of these shows feed live to the internet. If not, are they on CNN or Tru-TV? If so, what are the times.

I only have the internet and now BlinkoTV. I have no clue about times or the channels for the shows that are being mentioned here.

I have Direct TV so that channel is 246. I also checked the CNN site already to see if they have those clips available to view...nothing. Sorry:sad:

[dreamlawyer]

Do any of these shows feed live to the Internet. If not, are they on CNN or Tru-TV? If so, what are the times.

I only have the Internet and now BlinkoTV. I have no clue about times or the channels for the shows that are being mentioned here.

I haven't found anything on the internet, sorry I have Tru-TV on a 3 hour tape delay here in the west on Cox Cable. I miss the days when the old court tv showed things live here.

[jusdafacts]

Harriet Ryan (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/03/phil-spector-1.html) of the LA Times:

In a final argument to jurors before they began deliberations, a prosecutor seized on the actress’ chance meeting with Spector, three hours before her death, at a Sunset Strip club where she was a VIP room hostess.

He asked jurors to imagine they could speak one sentence to her before she got in Spector’s chauffeured Mercedes.

“You are all thinking the same thing,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Alan Jackson said. Dropping his voice to a whisper, he continued, “You’d say, ‘Lana, whatever you do, don’t go.’”

He said the impulse to warn Clarkson came from jurors’ knowledge of “the real Phil Spector” -- a “demon” with a history of menacing women with guns.

[kellabeck]

Could you imagine CM and PS as room mates :scared:

And they had a mutual friend!! Terry Melcher, son of Doris Day, and whose home had been the Cielo Drive home occupied by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate. It's been long thought that Charlie picked it out to target Melcher, not knowing he had vacated.

[GPSpector]

I have Direct TV so that channel is 246. I also checked the CNN site already to see if they have those clips available to view...nothing. Sorry:sad:

Ok, I have CNN listed in BlinkoTV but who's on CNN that I need to wait for?

[dreamlawyer]

Harriet Ryan (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/03/phil-spector-1.html) of the LA Times:

In a final argument to jurors before they began deliberations, a prosecutor seized on the actress’ chance meeting with Spector, three hours before her death, at a Sunset Strip club where she was a VIP room hostess.

He asked jurors to imagine they could speak one sentence to her before she got in Spector’s chauffeured Mercedes.

“You are all thinking the same thing,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Alan Jackson said. Dropping his voice to a whisper, he continued, “You’d say, ‘Lana, whatever you do, don’t go.’”

He said the impulse to warn Clarkson came from jurors’ knowledge of “the real Phil Spector” -- a “demon” with a history of menacing women with guns.

AJ did the same thing in the first trial, was the most effective moment of his closing IMO! Only a foolish engineer would not get the common sense of that question.

[dreamlawyer]

Ok, I have CNN listed in BlinkoTV but who's on CNN that I need to wait for?

You need to find Tru TV, that's where Banfield and Ford will be showing an update.

[oodi1]

Ok, I have CNN listed in BlinkoTV but who's on CNN that I need to wait for?


Gary,

It was on Banfield and Ford on TruTV. It already aired on Blinko (I only saw the last 2 seconds of it) unless they have an "on demand" feature.

[jusdafacts]

Ouch.


The Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1164974/Frazzled-Phil-Spector-awaits-fate-murder-trial-comes-close.html)

Pasty-faced and with tousled hair hanging lank over his shoulders, a haggard Phil Spector awaits to hear his fate....

Today the reclusive producer, who pioneered the 1960s 'wall of sound' recording technique, is a shadow of his former self.

The 67-year-old's face appears to be collapsing in on itself - as does his hair, usually coiffed into flamboyant styles.

Not even dabs of blusher on his cheeks could hold back the ravages of time.

'Spector looks catatonic,' Royal Oakes, a legal analyst, claimed on U.S. television.

'You couldn't imagine anyone who seems more disengaged or disinterested. He seems heavily medicated.

'But how his overall appearance would affect the verdict is anyone's guess.'

[logbump]

I don't think Mackey is doing much here. Plus she's getting argumentative.
Oops. Sorry, wrong thread.

[mbmb]

Ok, I have CNN listed in BlinkoTV but who's on CNN that I need to wait for?

I hate to say it, but I really do think it's the economy and that is why we are not getting streaming internet coverage of this trial. Every thing has been cut back on, including live trial coverage. You can tell when you go to local news websites. And, there is little or no updates for days. Tell me do you think this is the case or not?

[dreamlawyer]

Hopefully, THIS jury will base it's opinion on the facts of the case like they should....the way that PS looks now should not factor into their verdict in anyway.

[Ellie]

Ouch.


The Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1164974/Frazzled-Phil-Spector-awaits-fate-murder-trial-comes-close.html)

Pasty-faced and with tousled hair hanging lank over his shoulders, a haggard Phil Spector awaits to hear his fate....

Today the reclusive producer, who pioneered the 1960s 'wall of sound' recording technique, is a shadow of his former self.

The 67-year-old's face appears to be collapsing in on itself - as does his hair, usually coiffed into flamboyant styles.

Not even dabs of blusher on his cheeks could hold back the ravages of time.

'Spector looks catatonic,' Royal Oakes, a legal analyst, claimed on U.S. television.

'You couldn't imagine anyone who seems more disengaged or disinterested. He seems heavily medicated.

'But how his overall appearance would affect the verdict is anyone's guess.'

Oh my gosh... if you haven't gone to the link above and looked at the photos.... what is going ON with Phil? He didn't look like the picture of health in the last trial but now he looks positively eerie and ill (and somewhat reminiscent of Michael Jackson) and WHO IS PUTTING ALL THAT PINK BLUSH ON HIM?

....wait... I guess I know the answer to that question. WTH is she thinking..... and what is Phil thinking letting her?

[GPSpector]

Ok, I'm getting very frustrated trying to get information here. It's like pulling teeth :confused:

Some of you seem to refer me to CNN but no name for the show and the other refers me to Tru-TV and neither side is giving me any times. I get the feeling they come and go and I missed it again.

I do not want to leave this BlinkoTV app running 24-7 in hopes that I "might" get lucky and catch something. I have no TV Guide and I am not psychic.

If you can't tell, I am really hating this BlinkoTV and I want to shut it off but every time I think about doing that, someone posts about a show commenting about this trial. I get the feeling I'm on the wrong channel, again and I switch to the other channel, just to switch back after another post.

[KathR]

Hi folks. It's 4:12 pm in NY now. How long has the jury been deliberating? This is awful. Just like pre-Internet days. How spoiled I am. I sure miss CTV and streaming trials. Guess we won't know anything more until tomorrow.

[KathR]

It was reported over a radio station that Spector has been acquitted!!!!! It was a rock station.

What? Oh no.

[Details]

They've been deliberating anywhere between zero and an hour and 15 minutes time - depending on how long of a lunch they took. 11:30 deliberation start - no doubt that's a bunch of, "OK, let's figure out how we do this" - then it's lunch time, then when they get back, and start - and it's now 1:15. It hasn't been long yet.

[oodi1]

Ok, I'm getting very frustrated trying to get information here. It's like pulling teeth :confused:

Some of you seem to refer me to CNN but no name for the show and the other refers me to Tru-TV and neither side is giving me any times. I get the feeling they come and go and I missed it again.

I do not want to leave this BlinkoTV app running 24-7 in hopes that I "might" get lucky and catch something. I have no TV Guide and I am not psychic.

If you can't tell, I am really hating this BlinkoTV and I want to shut it off but every time I think about doing that, someone posts about a show commenting about this trial. I get the feeling I'm on the wrong channel, again and I switch to the other channel, just to switch back after another post.

I think the times vary so greatly because it depends on the time zones and/or the tv service. Satellite tv airing times are different than for those with cable tv.

[Details]

It was reported over a radio station that Spector has been acquitted!!!!! It was a rock station.No doubt someone goofing off. There hasn't really been enough time to fill out the forms, let alone elect the foreman, become incredibly stupid, and buy into defense case.

[newsjunkie]

What? Oh no.


We would have heard from Sprocket or My2Cents if that was so.

[jusdafacts]

No doubt someone goofing off. There hasn't really been enough time to fill out the forms, let alone elect the foreman, become incredibly stupid, and buy into defense case.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[dreamlawyer]

Ok, I'm getting very frustrated trying to get information here. It's like pulling teeth :confused:

Some of you seem to refer me to CNN but no name for the show and the other refers me to Tru-TV and neither side is giving me any times. I get the feeling they come and go and I missed it again.

I do not want to leave this BlinkoTV app running 24-7 in hopes that I "might" get lucky and catch something. I have no TV Guide and I am not psychic.

If you can't tell, I am really hating this BlinkoTV and I want to shut it off but every time I think about doing that, someone posts about a show commenting about this trial. I get the feeling I'm on the wrong channel, again and I switch to the other channel, just to switch back after another post.

If you go to cnn.com/crime they have video covering the live trial of the triple murder trial, I don't think that there's is anyway to get the update from TruTv's Banfield and Ford show except to watch it in a couple of hours on cable.

[GPSpector]

It was reported over a radio station that Spector has been acquitted!!!!! It was a rock station.

Any chance the station was KROQ?

[KathR]

No doubt someone goofing off. There hasn't really been enough time to fill out the forms, let alone elect the foreman, become incredibly stupid, and buy into defense case.

I hope you are right. But juries seem to work at warp speed when it they become incredibly stupid. Remember OJ.

[dreamlawyer]

What time did the jury go to lunch? It's 1:25pm PT now they should be deliberating now right??? I don't expect anything today, but just want to know if they are deliberating or not right now.

[Details]

I don't think so. According to the report he was acquitted.

Two jurors voted to acquit.Funny - that is a good joke.

Reporting the verdict of the previous case.

[oodi1]

I don't think so. According to the report he was acquitted.

Two jurors voted to acquit.


This really isn't funny when Gary is trying to find ACCURATE information about his father's case.

[dreamlawyer]

Yes I do. :cursing:



I also hate it when an aging, has-been kills a defenseless person.
:cursing:

I couldn't agree with you more or both statements:thumbup:

[GPSpector]

What I saw was a short wrap up at the end of the Banfield & Ford show on TruTV. For me that is Cox Cable 64 and the show ended 2PM CST. Hope that helps.

Thank you. So does Banfield & Ford, only air once a day or should I look on the web for a later showing?

[Ellie]

I don't think so. According to the report he was acquitted.

Two jurors voted to acquit.

Sweetheart, they're (or you're) reading an article from PS1 in 2007....

Seriously. 1, the jury hasn't been gone long enough if they didn't have a 'working lunch'. 2, Sprocket or M2C or the Twitter dude would have said something. And 3, no freakin' way.

[dreamlawyer]

This really isn't funny when Gary is trying to find ACCURATE information about his father's case.

What? Who's Gary and who is his father....I'm confused.

[kennedy06]

Here is a few second clip of DW and PS, I didnt realize how big that gun was until I seen it in DW hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x-otnhj5hc

[KathR]

Whatever happened to The Legal Edge? When this trial began they were debating covering it. I haven't heard of them since then. I just looked at their site and nothing is happening there.

I've lost my old links to the LA stations. Are any of those doing a verdict watch?

[mbmb]

What? Who's Gary and who is his father....I'm confused.

I'm sorry but are you serious?

[Ellie]

Thanks FA, I didn't even notice that. I was sitting here frozen in a cold sweat, nauseated. Besides our Tweeter said he was on jury watch, I think we would hear from him first.

Bolding is mine because I WAS TOO!!!! Just about packed up and left work early to go home and sulk before picking my daughter up from daycare. lol!!

[logbump]

Gps, Blinko carries Insession till 1 pm mountain time then it's Trutv and they DON'T give updates. You can close after Banfield and Ford. We are all at the mercy of bloggers now for info.:crying:

[Details]

With all these people watching, it's simply a fact - we'll hear plenty of warning here before the verdict comes in, from at least 2 or 3 sources. So no rumor disturbs me.

[CarolinaMoon]

Thank you. So does Banfield & Ford, only air once a day or should I look on the web for a later showing?

Banfield and Ford only airs live once a day. So sorry you are having trouble getting information.

My suggestion is to see if you can get HLN (formerly CNN Headline News). They have breaking news. Other than that, the best you can do is to stay online and monitor here and on T&T with Sprocket.

Then there are those Twitter reports.

My2Cents, Sprocket, and the twitter guy are all in the courthouse and will be the first to know and let us know what's happening.

[dreamlawyer]

Here is a few second clip of DW and PS, I didnt realize how big that gun was until I seen it in DW hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x-otnhj5hc

Thanks for the link! I don't think that PS looks any worse than he did in the first trial JMO, still crazy and quilty as ever!

OT: I'm disappointed that Zac Efron won't be doing the remake of Footloose, I was looking forward to that! :wub:

[Details]

Gps, Blinko carries Insession till 1 pm mountain time then it's Trutv and they DON'T give updates. You can close after Banfield and Ford. We are all at the mercy of bloggers now for info.:crying:Several different bloggers, all dedicated to the case, and all of us searching for any info being published anywhere - even the short little blurb on an obscure show.

We're better covered than we would be even with CTV.

[Crispy]

Sweetheart, they're (or you're) reading an article from PS1 in 2007....

Seriously. 1, the jury hasn't been gone long enough if they didn't have a 'working lunch'. 2, Sprocket or M2C or the Twitter dude would have said something. And 3, no freakin' way.

add in 4) what about the other 10 people on the jury?

I think the jury will come back Friday afternoon with a guilty verdict. I just don't see them going the whole weekend and then Monday and Tuesday and coming back to deliberate next Wednesday. Of course I've been wrong before. jmo

[mbmb]

Whatever happened to The Legal Edge? When this trial began they were debating covering it. I haven't heard of them since then. I just looked at their site and nothing is happening there.

I've lost my old links to the LA stations. Are any of those doing a verdict watch?

They would have covered it if there was enough people to pay $30.00 a month. But, I asked this question yesterday...there is nothing new on their website since last December. I wonder if they too are victims of this economy? I need correct myself, no new blog entries since last December.

[dreamlawyer]

GPSpector, who is posting.... he is Phil's son....

Oh WOW! Sorry, I haven't been on these boards in a while obviously :ohmy:

I'm sorry for you GPSpector, I know what it's like to have a father that really isn't one. The children are always the most helpless victims....

[GPSpector]

If you go to cnn.com/crime they have video covering the live trial of the triple murder trial, I don't think that there's is anyway to get the update from TruTv's Banfield and Ford show except to watch it in a couple of hours on cable.

Ok, so are you saying that I have wasted about 4 hours of my time with BlinkoTV. Good, I can shut this app off. I really hate it running in the back ground switching from Tru-TV & CNN. Also have Twitter and IS up on my screen. I'm going nuts trying to keep all these screens updated.

[dreamlawyer]

Is Colorado now the same time as Arizona, right now in AZ it's 1:40, in about an hour Banfield and Ford will be doing their update on TruTV.

GPSpector if you can get to a tv with TruTv that's on a tape delay you may be able to see the update. HTH!

[kellabeck]

I am sorry if I hurt anyone’s sensibilities here but in PS1 I believe that the jury as a whole failed the system. Not just the foreperson. Another Juror and we should all know who that was IIRC claimed to be a bully, “a bully for justice”. Then why may I ask did he or the rest of the jurors allow three days to pass before he forced the first sample vote on where everyone stood with regards to his innocence or guilt? Were 10 other jurors intimidated by the foreperson to the extent that they wouldn’t advise the Judge that he refused to deliberate? They could have had him removed and elected another foreperson. Why did the “bully for justice” let this happen? It was only on the last day, IIRC that he forced the issue and buzzed the court to let them know that they were hopelessly deadlocked against the wishes of the foreperson. As I recall, the foreperson said he was “still listening”. Listening to what may I ask? I will not announce my belief as to the guilt or innocence of Phil Spector as it is not my place to do so since I wasn’t at the trial on the jury nor at the crime scene when it happened. Two people know what happened and one of them is sadly deceased and cannot speak for her self. All the lawyers, experts, talking heads and armchair detectives are never going to solve this tragedy. All the theories and opinions mean nothing. I personally will not jump for joy if Phil Spector is convicted and I will respect what this new jury decides. It will not affect my life in any way nor should it yours with the exception of his family and friends. It saddens me that so many want such vengeance. For vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

IIRC, there was a juror who was frustrated by the refusal of the foreman to allow a vote to be taken and threatened to go to the judge if a poll wasn't held. The foreman relented.

This was unfortunate only in that it would have been better had the juror just sent a note to the judge explaining the situation. I believe strongly that #10, the foreman, would have been replaced and deliberations would have resumed and a guilty verdict would have been reached, imo.

I don't recall the expression "a bully for justice" but I will let that pass. The first "sample" vote would not have been to establish innocence or guilt, rather the jury has to determine whether the State has met its burden of proof (beyond a reasonable doubt) and then vote guilty or not guilty, that is, proven or not proven. A jury never declares a defendant "innocent."

Of course the jury was hopelessly deadlocked "on the last day." The judge declared a mistrial and dismissed them and the trial was over.

Since, as you say, you were not present on the jury or at the crime scene, you choose not to render an opinion...that's up to you. But having watched the entire first trial I feel absolutely qualified to have a very informed opinion based on the testimony and exhibits, the FACTS, and they scream out not for "vengeance" but J U S T I C E. Justice long delayed by the power of the defendant's purse.

No where in the jury's charge are actual instructions on how to deliberate. Each jury has to feel its way to doing that on its own. It's a big responsibility, a great burden, especially in a high-profile, six-month trial. I'm not surprised that the jury was intimidated. While I am disappointed they didn't revolt and go to the judge, I don't blame them. They did ultimately speak up when polled and that's when Fidler discovered the problematic jury intruction which had been wrongly given, thanks to the prodding of the defense, and which had to be amended.

Solve this tragedy?? Do you mean bring Lana back to life? No, all the pundits and lawyers and bloggers can't do that. But we who followed the evidence know all but the tiniest details (i.e. precisely how it happened) and can imagine the rest courtesy of the women who experienced the terror of a loaded Spector with a loaded gun.

And most of all, we know from Spector's own excited utterance that he had killed someone. So it's no mystery to any but the willfully ignorant, imo.

If you feel that the only permissable judgement comes only from God, please do the Republic a favor and never serve on a jury which is tasked with dispensing justice here on earth. "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's," said Christ, who was not opposed to taxation, and wouldn't have been against juries either, imo.

I WILL be jumping for joy when Spector is finally led off to the rest of his life behind bars. Not because I thirst for "vengeance" but for
J U S T I C E-- Justice for Lana.

[coinoutlet]

do we need to start a new thread? Coldwater usually closes at between 900 and 1000 posts......

verdict watch!

[Ellie]

Sweetheart, It was a reply to a poster who said one juror voted to acquit in the first trial and I said it was two. If you had read the post I replied to you'd know that. Next time read the quote.

This trial: A radio station reported he was acquitted. I think he is guilty and it's a travesty of justice he has been acquitted. He's probably on his way to celebrate. Sad.

Sorry, I must have misunderstood your point/post then. What state is the station in that you heard it on, can you or someone call them and ask where they got their information?

JAYNE, WHERE ARE YOU?

[dreamlawyer]

Sweetheart, It was a reply to a poster who said one juror voted to acquit in the first trial and I said it was two. If you had read the post I replied to you'd know that. Next time read the quote.

This trial: A radio station reported he was acquitted. I think he is guilty and it's a travesty of justice he has been acquitted. He's probably on his way to celebrate. Sad.

He hasn't been aquitted, the jury just started deliberating, give me a break!

[Crispy]

1:30 update from T&T...defense might be going over the evidence book..looks like it's not even in the jury room yet.

[Curlyjo]

Sprocket reports: 1:30 pm: I'm back inside the courtroom in the back row. Weinberg and his paralegal are setting up on the defense table. Ah. I think they are going over their evidence book. Apparently, that's still not inthe jury room yet.

[Curlyjo]

Sprocket reports more: 1:43 pm: All counsel are back in the courtroom. It looks like they are doing a last minute run through of exhibits and something with the jury instructions. When the instrucitons were read to the jury, there was one instruction that should have had a few sentences removed and it was not removed. So, before they were given to the jury in the jury room, both parties agreed to just have those sentences removed before the jury would be given their copies.

1:45: pm: Truc and Weinberg are going over it looks like copies of the instructions.

[jusdafacts]

Sprocket's update (http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/)

1:46: pm: My2Cents is here on their computer as well as the CNN reporter. Louis Spector and his companion, Frieda are here. A man I don't recognize is here in the back row in the plastic seats. In a jacket, shirt, no tie and black jeans.

1:48: pm: Wendy tells both parties, "I want each of you to go through each other's books and go through them because I'm not turning anything over until you've both approved each other's books."

[KathR]

Is Colorado now the same time as Arizona, right now in AZ it's 1:40, in about an hour Banfield and Ford will be doing their update on TruTV.

GPSpector if you can get to a tv with TruTv that's on a tape delay you may be able to see the update. HTH!

There is no way Tru TV will report anything that happens after 3PM Eastern Time. They are dead on the air after that. Nothing but reruns.

[GPSpector]

Banfield and Ford only airs live once a day. So sorry you are having trouble getting information.

My suggestion is to see if you can get HLN (formerly CNN Headline News). They have breaking news. Other than that, the best you can do is to stay online and monitor here and on T&T with Sprocket.

Then there are those Twitter reports.

My2Cents, Sprocket, and the twitter guy are all in the courthouse and will be the first to know and let us know what's happening.

If it's not available through a live stream, I can't get it. as I mentioned before, I only have the bare basic cable and Internet. Besides, my TV is not in the same room as my PC.

[Curlyjo]

sprocket reports: 1:51: pm: Truc and Weinberg are going through a book together and Susan and Jackson are going through something together. Ah. Jackson and Susan are done.

[KathR]

I started a new thread.....verdict watch, so when this is closed, it is ready to go

Good. I was hoping someone would do that. I'll switch to it now.

[Curlyjo]

If it's not available through a live stream, I can't get it. as I mentioned before, I only have the bare basic cable and Internet. Besides, my TV is not in the same room as my PC.


I am sorry if I made trying to find this so confusing and frustrating for you. I have tried to find it other was but can't:sad:

[GPSpector]

Here it is only one once a day beginning at 12N. Presently they are showing Caribbean Cops, that's useful to us :thumbdown:

Ya, I was watching it and I was not very happy. I really could not care less about some guy getting busted for trying to bring Pot back from Jamaica. Ya, he got lucky and did not get arrested but if I wanted to waste my time watching useless TV, I'd be in the other room.

Well, now I will turn on BlinkoTV only if someone posts that there is an update on at that time and not that an update just ended.

[Curlyjo]

Sprocket reports: 1:54: pm: Just a reminder, for those of you who may not remember, the jurors from now on will be escorted to their cars out of the courthouse by a different route. They will go through a hallway that's behind the clerk's desk. Linda from San Diego and Louis are discussing moies.

[kennedy06]

What is moies? Is that a judicial term or is that suppose to be movies??

[GPSpector]

Is Colorado now the same time as Arizona, right now in AZ it's 1:40, in about an hour Banfield and Ford will be doing their update on TruTV.

GPSpector if you can get to a tv with TruTv that's on a tape delay you may be able to see the update. HTH!

Sorry, I only have 1 TV and no place to go for another one. It is right now 3:10pm. We just went though a Daylight savings change. I know AZ does not do that.

[jusdafacts]

Sorry, I only have 1 TV and no place to go for another one. It is right now 3:10pm. We just went though a Daylight savings change. I know AZ does not do that.

Sprocket says "Hello Gary"!

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

2:07 pm: Weinberg, Susan, Truc Do and Jackson are still going over some last items. Louis just told me that he just got off the phone with Gary and to tell me Gary said "Hello." HI GARY!!!

[GPSpector]

Sweetheart, It was a reply to a poster who said one juror voted to acquit in the first trial and I said it was two. If you had read the post I replied to you'd know that. Next time read the quote.

This trial: A radio station reported he was acquitted. I think he is guilty and it's a travesty of justice he has been acquitted. He's probably on his way to celebrate. Sad.

Ya, that's why my brother just called me about 2 minutes ago to say that the Jury has still not returned a verdict. Please, give it a rest.

[oodi1]

WE HAVE MOVED. YOU CAN FIND THE NEW THREAD HERE:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=350955

[GPSpector]

Sprocket says "Hello Gary"!

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

2:07 pm: Weinberg, Susan, Truc Do and Jackson are still going over some last items. Louis just told me that he just got off the phone with Gary and to tell me Gary said "Hello." HI GARY!!!

I'm glad you got the message.

[Dave]

On the (tape-delayed) west coast, the TruTV Spector update is about to begin.

[Jayne]

What is moies? Is that a judicial term or is that suppose to be movies??

HAHA..kennedy..that threw me too. No it's not a judicial term..it's an obvious "typo"..must be movies..but I first thought "monies"...as in how much this has cost Spector (or CA)? Then..tried to think of other possible "typos"..made a list!

monies
movies
mogies
motives
mobiles

I'd guess it was Movies...

you're quick to the draw!

[kennedy06]

That was a good list Jayne:biggrin: since it was reported I thought I might as well try to understand what it was! Thanks Jayne:smile: