Friday March 20, 2009 Part 2 [Archive] - In Session Message Boards

Money Girl

03-20-2009, 09:30 PM

I just finished reading the transcript of JVM from last night, (thurs), and I'm trying to locate Wed.'s, does anyone have it? Someone mentioned that Ron was out dunebugging or whatever you call it Wed. or Thurs., and I have to admit, I was bothered by that. Jane's transcript didn't mention it on Thurs. but perhaps its on Wed. I know some will be annoyed with me that I am bothered by it. But I am, I just don't think while your child maybe out there, God knows what is or has happened to her, that dune bugging should be on your plate. But that's just me, and I'm too old to change.

moo

Maybe he was also looking for Haleigh, or other leads, at the time.

Money Girl

03-20-2009, 09:31 PM

Is there any new news tonight?

First Coast News had an interesting story tonight. It should be posted on their website - firstcoastnews.com - later.

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 09:33 PM

If you mean NG or JVM, they are usually a day or two behind us. :biggrin:

Have the other print reporters grabbed it??

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 09:35 PM

Maybe he was also looking for Haleigh, or other leads, at the time.

And maybe he's never seen , heard of , or knows what a dunebuggy is----maybe that's called starting another rumor.

Peaches

03-20-2009, 09:35 PM

First Coast News had an interesting story tonight. It should be posted on their website - firstcoastnews.com - later.

Care to share with us?

MrLucky917B

03-20-2009, 09:36 PM

Have the other print reporters grabbed it??

Not that I have seen, the only place is the radio station that had the original interview.

bama__angel

03-20-2009, 09:41 PM

Have the other print reporters grabbed it??

I havent seen this reported anywhere else......

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:42 PM

I just finished reading the transcript of JVM from last night, (thurs), and I'm trying to locate Wed.'s, does anyone have it? Someone mentioned that Ron was out dunebugging or whatever you call it Wed. or Thurs., and I have to admit, I was bothered by that. Jane's transcript didn't mention it on Thurs. but perhaps its on Wed. I know some will be annoyed with me that I am bothered by it. But I am, I just don't think while your child maybe out there, God knows what is or has happened to her, that dune bugging should be on your plate. But that's just me, and I'm too old to change.

moo

I thought that was the weekend before she went missing??

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:45 PM

Have the other print reporters grabbed it??

The radio guy reporting this...is he the one on Nancy Grace tonight?

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 09:47 PM

I'm surprised that none of the mainline news programs have made a mention of Cobra's radio interview today, or are the staying away from it.

NG and some other shows are pre-recorded. They very seldom have the latest info.

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:48 PM

It wasn't between Ron and Cobra. It was between Cobra and Cobra (or Cobra and TJHart, if you will)

Who was on Nancy and didn't mention this BOMBSHELL?? The very same?

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 09:49 PM

No reporter has even approached Ron or his new attorneys (spokespersons) to ask about it. Tells me crediblity cannot be confirmed. No BOMBSHELLS, no SHOCKING AUDIO, nothing.

How do you know that "no reporter has even approached Ron or his new attorneys (spokespersons) to ask about it?"

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:49 PM

NG and some other shows are pre-recorded. They very seldom have the latest info.

Even when they have the bombshell breaker on their show?

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 09:51 PM

Have the other print reporters grabbed it??

Someone posted a link in the other thread.

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:52 PM

Swar...if you go to this page, you can get CNN transcripts for the past 10 days. It includes Jane's show.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/

MrLucky917B

03-20-2009, 09:52 PM

NG and some other shows are pre-recorded. They very seldom have the latest info.

But the tape was out mid-morning, plenty of time to get to NG and JVM

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 09:53 PM

And maybe he's never seen , heard of , or knows what a dunebuggy is----maybe that's called starting another rumor.

Actually, there are photos of Ron and Haleigh with a dunebuggy and it is listed on some information sheets as one of the activities they did together in addition to fishing.

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 09:56 PM

How do you know that "no reporter has even approached Ron or his new attorneys (spokespersons) to ask about it?"

They have not reported it.

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:57 PM

No way! TJ Hart, or "Cobra"?

TJ unless I'm dreaming. I was waiting on him to talk about his scoop!

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Actually, there are photos of Ron and Haleigh with a dunebuggy and it is listed on some information sheets as one of the activities they did together in addition to fishing.

Are u willing to confirm that Ron has been dunebuging since Hayleigh's diappearance even though that was one of the things u say they enjoyed together?

teresa

03-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Exactly! Otherwise there would have been BOMBSHELLS and BREAKING NEWS! everywhere tonight.

Didn't happen.

But I'm sure Geraldo will have it.

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 10:01 PM

Even when they have the bombshell breaker on their show?

I did hear NG saying "bombshell" over and over tonight about new documents released in the Anthony case. (They must have leaked out earlier, because I had already heard most of it.)

Don't remember if she said "bombshell" about DS or not, but she had evidently just found out about him.

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 10:07 PM

No, this is something JVM supposidly said this week. I've been looking at myspace pages and it seems *mudbogging* is quite the rage around there.

moo

I just did a search for dunebuggy and dune buggy on "search on forums" for posts and the only posts that came up are the ones here tonight. JMO

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 10:07 PM

Are u willing to confirm that Ron has been dunebuging since Hayleigh's diappearance even though that was one of the things u say they enjoyed together?

How the heck would I know? I'm not the original poster of that information. I was just offering reasons on why he may have been doing this activity - same as some other posters.

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:08 PM

No, this is something JVM supposidly said this week. I've been looking at myspace pages and it seems *mudbogging* is quite the rage around there.

moo

I left you a link on the last page for the past ten day's transcripts.

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 10:08 PM

But I'm sure Geraldo will have it.

Is he covering Haleigh on his show this weekend?

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:10 PM

Is he covering Haleigh on his show this weekend?

Since he has already determined that Ron beat Haleigh to a bloody pulp, I expect to see Kim and Crystal on his show, unless Mark Klaas got through to them. He (MK) also made some pretty angry statements tonight.

Mimi428

03-20-2009, 10:13 PM

Since he has already determined that Ron beat Haleigh to a bloody pulp, I expect to see Kim and Crystal on his show, unless Mark Klaas got through to them. He (MK) also made some pretty angry statements tonight.

What show was Marc Klaas on tonight? TIA

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 10:14 PM

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:16 PM

What show was Marc Klaas on tonight? TIA

Nancy if you can wait through about 40-45 minutes of Casey A stuff.

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:17 PM

Oh thanks Theresa, I missed it.

:wub:

You're welcome. It's come in handy lately because I can't remember half of what I watch anymore. It's all blending together.

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 10:18 PM

Me too. I don't doubt for a second that "Cobra" told his own sons about putting guns in mouths, or asked Ron whether it bothered him that his g/f was snogging a black guy. He's a "good ole boy" so the probabilities of him talking like that are high.

Whether what he reports as conversations with Ron are true or not -- I don't believe him for a second.

Cobra obviously doesn't care who he hurts, whether it's a man grieving for his lost daughter, or some "black guy" who he thinks is incidental to his goal.

Or most importantly, an innocent little girl who is just waiting to be found.

You know, I have been thinking the same thing about Misty. She should know how much she is hurting her new husband and in-laws through her inconsistencies.

MrLucky917B

03-20-2009, 10:19 PM

oops. Sorry!

Cobra probably did say much of this stuff. I just don't know how much of it to believe. If I was a black guy in that area named Greg "or White Boy Greg" as Cobra put it, if I did nothing wrong, I'd be seeing a lawyer.

I wonder if ZFG's attorney is trying to find this guy also..

Mimi428

03-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Nancy if you can wait through about 40-45 minutes of Casey A stuff.

Thanks! I appreciate the info.

Rushbo

03-20-2009, 10:29 PM

I'm not as worried about her new husband and in-laws as I am about Haleigh being hurt any further through her inconsistencies. I'm surprised you didn't mention Haleigh. Has everyone forgotten about her already?

Of course, nobody has forgotten about Haleigh.

That's why everyone is here.

CANDYKISSES

03-20-2009, 10:33 PM

I havent seen this reported anywhere else......

Perhaps the extremely foul language, the accusations levied at a minor - married or not, and the general tone and references to the "black guy" could lead some people to really question the airing of such a tape. JMO:scared:

Oh and don't forget the remark about Misty grinning that he didn't want to air publicly. :rolleyes:

IF Misty was grinning then I am back to Ron deciding to do what COBRA was allegedly doing....JMO tho.:unsure:
P.S. I realize the 911 tapes includes such too, but with it all being hearsay on the tape today....not so much in favor of such a mess IMO.

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:38 PM

This is a great site teresa. I 'm adding it to my favorites. So far nothing on JVM Wed or Thur on mudbogging. It does sound like fun, never heard of it before. It just hit me the wrong way that Ron would be ups for this kind of social activity when he still doesn't know what happened to Haleigh. I suppose I'll get over it, eventually.

I think you heard wrong Swar. Or read a rumor somewhere. I haven't missed her show all week and I didn't hear it but maybe I just missed it. I think we would have discussed it to death by now, though. I have read recently that he went the weekend before she was gone but I can't remember why that was pointed out.

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 10:41 PM

How the heck would I know? I'm not the original poster of that information. I was just offering reasons on why he may have been doing this activity - same as some other posters.

Gothcha, it's all good. Thanks.

CANDYKISSES

03-20-2009, 10:47 PM

I think you heard wrong Swar. Or read a rumor somewhere. I haven't missed her show all week and I didn't hear it but maybe I just missed it. I think we would have discussed it to death by now, though. I have read recently that he went the weekend before she was gone but I can't remember why that was pointed out.

I've not seen or heard anything about it either.

Hoping for Haleigh to come home! :wub:

teresa

03-20-2009, 10:54 PM

I have not got to read the boards all day. Swarovski.. or anyone.. has Ron been out dune bugging?

Also, what Cobra Tape?...Can someone tell me what was on it..or lead me to a place I can listen?

I would appreciate any help on getting caught up today.

Swarovski seems to be the only one who heard that. I've researched everywhere and can't find it.

The link to the radio show used to be on page 8 of the previous thread but I don't know how much has been deleted.

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 10:57 PM

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 10:59 PM

Here Horse,

Cobra tape......
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Some posters have said they listened to a part 2. Did you see a part 2? JMO

playnice

03-20-2009, 10:59 PM

I found Rons attorney. Noticed he has practed criminal law too and used to be a assistant state attorney.

http://www.kimballsniderlaw.com/attorney.html

Cant find Snider tho.

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 11:01 PM

I found Rons attorney. Noticed he has practed criminal law too and used to be a assistant state attorney.

http://www.kimballsniderlaw.com/attorney.html

Cant find Snider tho.

I wonder if is he is a new partner since there is no bio on him. JMO

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:03 PM

I wonder if is he is a new partner since there is no bio on him. JMO

Must be.

I dont know his first name but couldnt find nothing googling.

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 11:04 PM

No. Is there a part 2??

I can't find it if there is. Just read other posters saying they listened to it. JMO

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:13 PM

Me too. I don't doubt for a second that "Cobra" told his own sons about putting guns in mouths, or asked Ron whether it bothered him that his g/f was snogging a black guy. He's a "good ole boy" so the probabilities of him talking like that are high.

Whether what he reports as conversations with Ron are true or not -- I don't believe him for a second.

Cobra obviously doesn't care who he hurts, whether it's a man grieving for his lost daughter, or some "black guy" who he thinks is incidental to his goal.

Or most importantly, an innocent little girl who is just waiting to be found.

Ouch!

Just catching up and not understanding this?

What have I missed?

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 11:15 PM

So i wonder why cobra would put that on here where everyone can hear? do you think Misty knows ron thinks shes lying?

I can't answer that.

1st. I don't know if what Cobra is saying really happened. If a conversation took place I wonder if he took the part about "Greg" out of context. IIRC he said when he mentioned the name Ron said he knew. Did Ron know that it happened or did Ron know it as a rumor?

2nd. If it happened I don't know if Ron or anyone else told her about it. Course if what Cobra said is true, I guess she was there for part of the conversation.

JMO

?noanswer

03-20-2009, 11:16 PM

Ouch!

Just catching up and not understanding this?

What have I missed?

Cobra tape......
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:17 PM

Brandon's MySpace. One of Joe's Overstreets Three brothers.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=269248876&albumId=618342&page=3

Lots of interesting characters on there.

Be Very Careful when going to myspace links from this case

I do not think all of them are valid links if you surf from one to another within the pages

I got a virus/trojan type thing from one of them

I refuse to go to any more of them related to this case

(scaredycat)

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:19 PM

Cobra tape......
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Thanks!

Interesting ...

I am sure LE did a reenactment with her, why not with Cobra?

And Ron was aware of Misty "cheating" on him?

Huh?

Money Girl

03-20-2009, 11:20 PM

I wonder if is he is a new partner since there is no bio on him. JMO

Not finding Snider in Martindales.

teresa

03-20-2009, 11:22 PM

Please scroll down to post 1131.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4718.1120

One thing you will learn about me is I have no reason to post anything false that I haven't read or seen before. I have no agenda, other than to find the truth wherever it leads.

moo

so you read a rumor on another board. Did you find that on Jane's transcripts? The only thing I heard was that he was with his lawyer yesterday for a long time.

We have discovered that two of your links didn't say what you said they said (and you owned up to it to your credit) so that's why I am asking for proof. I don't believe much of anything those "insiders" there say. I have found too many errors and misstatements and give them zero credibility. I know you try your best Swar so please don't be mad at me. We've all made mistakes in this case with so much info/rumors/press. The press has made more errors than all of us.

And if he went searching where Cobra and Teresa went, I wouldn't go by foot either (if it was said that he went). I'll read the transcripts in case I missed it on the show.

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:25 PM

sounds like he was just getting misty to tell the story to him to see what she said but she backed out? do you think she knew what he was up to? If ron just believed that about his wife from a rumor then he wouldn't think too much of her. maybe he knew about this guy before and maybe the gun argument had something to do with misty and this other guy and then a neighbor heard someone scream at 230am so maybe it was misty cause her other boyfriend took haleigh or something then.

Which neighbor heard a scream at 2:30 AM?

I thought the neighbor who claimed to have heard something heard it after 3:30?

doctor_J

03-20-2009, 11:26 PM

Money Girl

03-20-2009, 11:27 PM

http://katfishponders.blogspot.com/

The Drama Unfolds, Will It Help Haleigh

Thanks. You have some neat links!

tinkerbell

03-20-2009, 11:31 PM

so you read a rumor on another board. Did you find that on Jane's transcripts? The only thing I heard was that he was with his lawyer yesterday for a long time.

We have discovered that two of your links didn't say what you said they said (and you owned up to it to your credit) so that's why I am asking for proof. I don't believe much of anything those "insiders" there say. I have found too many errors and misstatements and give them zero credibility. I know you try your best Swar so please don't be mad at me. We've all made mistakes in this case with so much info/rumors/press. The press has made more errors than all of us.

And if he went searching where Cobra and Teresa went, I wouldn't go by foot either (if it was said that he went). I'll read the transcripts in case I missed it on the show.

teresa, I'm pretty new here; however, I have read a number of posts including many from sw. While you may have discovered one or maybe two of his/her posts to be questionable, please remember the other 100 or so that are right on. The last time I graded a paper, a 98% or above still rated a grade of "A"!

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:34 PM

Well its the weekend and there never is much news. 6 weeks now and I dont think they are any closer to finding Haleigh.
Im really afraid this is going to end up like Trenton Duckett case. :sad:

teresa

03-20-2009, 11:36 PM

I don't know anything about why posters on SM say whatever they do- but I watched JVM every day this week, twice each day, and this dunebuggy stuff was not said.
Nevermind why Im stuck in front of the TV, it O/T- don't want ban camp, lol

I read the transcript again, searched for dune and buggy, and nothing. They just dream up stuff over there IMO.

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:38 PM

who is jvm??? Tara i seen a video that it said a neighbor heard a scream at 230am and i thought they said it was a women scream from their trailor.

Just did a search and did not come up with much, then again i am very tired so not up to my usual standard

What I did find was a neighbor said this two weeks after Haleigh went missing .. which if true, is questionable

?

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:40 PM

I haven't seen it either whether it's on TV or in the news. I don't consider info without links that are copied from other message boards like SM any better than heresay. I'm starting to wonder if that's why there's so much misinformation posted here that people repeat as truth that gets us nowhere.

Where is Haleigh?

There is so much misinformation and rumors and very little truth and facts coming out in this case.

Actually some of the reporters arent doing a really good job either.
The Cobra tape. I suppose its how you interpret it.
Did Ron know about Misti and the black guy or was he confirming he knew about the rumor? Cobra said there was a rumor. Then he said ron confirmed it. Confirmed what? That it happened or that there was a rumor and he knew about it?

Mamie

03-20-2009, 11:40 PM

Here Horse,

Cobra tape......
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

I clicked on the audio thingy on this link but it didn't work for me. I did think that Ron's statement to the guy sounded a little weird, when the guy asked why he married Misty if Ron was aware of "Greg" and Ron said that Misty is the closest thing to Haleigh and he'd keep her until he got Haleigh back.

i_pickle

03-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Even when they have the bombshell breaker on their show?When do they ever have a bombshell breaker on their show?

They're always behind and they hype up old stuff.

I hope no one is suggesting that if it isn't on NG or JVM, it can't be true.

teresa

03-20-2009, 11:41 PM

I have no reason to doubt what that poster reported. She even cited where she heard it from. This board is just like any other, lots of rumors and speculation. I don't hold this board as a factor of truth over any other board. I find that board and other, where their research and fact finding has been outstanding.

moo

She sited it wrong then. Already, posters on here have stated it as fact when it isn't. Opinions are fine but facts shouldn't be debatable. Just like the too long to list rap sheet, it is important to be accurate. Read but verify is my recommendation of that place.

tinkerbell

03-20-2009, 11:41 PM

I wasn't able to get the link to work; I tried two different browsers and still nothing...

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:42 PM

Well its the weekend and there never is much news. 6 weeks now and I dont think they are any closer to finding Haleigh.
Im really afraid this is going to end up like Trenton Duckett case. :sad:

It does seem like the news stops on weekends!!

Like the only crime and updates are Monday thru Friday for some odd reason

I always thought LE worked 24/7

And that brings me to another thing that bothers me in this case -- LE being so tightlipped!

Doesn't that almost suggest an "inside job"?

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:44 PM

I clicked on the audio thingy on this link but it didn't work for me. I did think that Ron's statement to the guy sounded a little weird, when the guy asked why he married Misty if Ron was aware of "Greg" and Ron said that Misty is the closest thing to Haleigh and he'd keep her until he got Haleigh back.

As unhappy as Ron looked about the marriage it wouldnt surprise me thats why he married her or else the custody thing.
But would he go around telling people?
Did he trust cobra and Cobra just told the whole world and cut off any chances of getting more info from Ron and Misti?

teresa

03-20-2009, 11:45 PM

When do they ever have a bombshell breaker on their show?

They're always behind and they hype up old stuff.

I hope no one is suggesting that if it isn't on NG or JVM, it can't be true.

But he was on her show. Why didn't he bring it up? Straight from the horse's mouth.

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:46 PM

It does seem like the news stops on weekends!!

Like the only crime and updates are Monday thru Friday for some odd reason

I always thought LE worked 24/7

And that brings me to another thing that bothers me in this case -- LE being so tightlipped!

Doesn't that almost suggest an "inside job"?

Not really. It suggest to me they may have told the truth when they said they had no idea what happened.

This whole case is so frustrating because there are a ton of suspects.

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:46 PM

I clicked on the audio thingy on this link but it didn't work for me. I did think that Ron's statement to the guy sounded a little weird, when the guy asked why he married Misty if Ron was aware of "Greg" and Ron said that Misty is the closest thing to Haleigh and he'd keep her until he got Haleigh back.

The only tie to Haleigh ... hence, the last person to see/be with her but oddly worded that he will only keep her until she returns

(I still say he only married Misty to rectify the underage situation before Court and custody)

MOO

i_pickle

03-20-2009, 11:47 PM

But he was on her show. Why didn't he bring it up? Straight from the horse's mouth.Who was on her show?

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:48 PM

Not really. It suggest to me they may have told the truth when they said they had no idea what happened.

This whole case is so frustrating because there are a ton of suspects.

Tons of suspects?

They have yet to name a single suspect?

teresa

03-20-2009, 11:48 PM

It does seem like the news stops on weekends!!

Like the only crime and updates are Monday thru Friday for some odd reason

I always thought LE worked 24/7

And that brings me to another thing that bothers me in this case -- LE being so tightlipped!

Doesn't that almost suggest an "inside job"?

I think either 1) they have an idea where she is or who took her and don't want to tip them off, or 2) they don't have a clue. The second choice really worries me. I'm afraid we will never know!

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:50 PM

Tons of suspects?

They have yet to name a single suspect?

They have cleared no one. They have stated everyone is a suspect.

"All the answers to why you'd want to take a 5-year-old are ugly," Bowling said.

Police have no official suspects, but are treating everyone they interview as one.

"All the world's a suspect" now, Bowling said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/11/missing.florida.girl/index.html?eref=time_us

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:50 PM

As unhappy as Ron looked about the marriage it wouldnt surprise me thats why he married her or else the custody thing.
But would he go around telling people?
Did he trust cobra and Cobra just told the whole world and cut off any chances of getting more info from Ron and Misti?

Must have been the sweet tea at Memaw's that caused loose lips

(:

TobyWong

03-20-2009, 11:52 PM

i wonder where people got those other pictures of misty the one day on here , they were from someone's myspace page i guess? it was saying about some old boyfriend she had or something and pics of them together . does anyone know?
I saw them the other day too. but didnt save them. It was on ikimi or ikimi photos online. A bunch of her & a long time boyfriend. (first?) and 1 pic of another boyfriend.

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:53 PM

They have cleared no one. They have stated everyone is a suspect.

"All the answers to why you'd want to take a 5-year-old are ugly," Bowling said.

Police have no official suspects, but are treating everyone they interview as one.

"All the world's a suspect" now, Bowling said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/11/missing.florida.girl/index.html?eref=time_us

In that sense, yes

But LE has not named any official suspect

Not even Misty who they seem to lean to the most at this point

playnice

03-20-2009, 11:57 PM

TaraCrazyHair

03-20-2009, 11:59 PM

They have cleared no one. They have stated everyone is a suspect.

"All the answers to why you'd want to take a 5-year-old are ugly," Bowling said.

Police have no official suspects, but are treating everyone they interview as one.

"All the world's a suspect" now, Bowling said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/11/missing.florida.girl/index.html?eref=time_us

That was in the very beginning of the case

I think they have narrowed it down from "the world"

(:

Ok ... how do we find more out about this Greg?

Interesting that he is black, Jr saw "something in black" ... and heard squeaky shoes (could it have been the bed springs?)

Criminelly!! ... I want more info!

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:02 AM

The thing that bothers me is Jrs story morphed to a man in black to a black man in black and cobra goes and finds a black man.
Not sure I buy into that.

Then we can add the couch shaking thing.
Its almost like someone keeps adding details to Jrs story for a reason. Im not sure Jr saw a thing.

I have not heard the tape -- just reading what the tape says

Is Ron actually speaking on the tape or is Cobra saying what Ron told him?

(too quiet here for me to play the audio ...)

I assumed Ron told Cobra and not that Cobra made this up?

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:04 AM

I have not heard the tape -- just reading what the tape says

Is Ron actually speaking on the tape or is Cobra saying what Ron told him?

(too quiet here for me to play the audio ...)

I assumed Ron told Cobra and not that Cobra made this up?

Ron is not on the tape. This is all cobra telling the story.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:04 AM

Inside job.

That is the impression I have as well

Otherwise they would not be so quiet about facts IMO simply because they would be alerting others to be careful

And we hear none of that

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:05 AM

I have not heard the tape -- just reading what the tape says

Is Ron actually speaking on the tape or is Cobra saying what Ron told him?

(too quiet here for me to play the audio ...)

I assumed Ron told Cobra and not that Cobra made this up?There's a transcript of the tape on the previous thread but I don't know what page it's on.

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 12:05 AM

But he was on her show. Why didn't he bring it up? Straight from the horse's mouth.

The show is pre-recorded. Posters on this board has been complaining for weeks that she is pre-recording too much and not getting the latest news.

SavannahStar

03-21-2009, 12:06 AM

It all starts with the reporters and goes downhill from there. Unfortunately, people are ready and anxious to make judgements of guilt or innocence based on faulty reporting and/or people's interpretations of faulty (or even accurate!) reporting.

Who pays for it? Haleigh. Because at the end of the day, not one person who makes their living as a reporter (or the posters who tear apart each word to justify which "side" their on) really cares where Haleigh has laid her head for the night for the past almost 40 days. Not one.

(bolding and underlining mine, to address).......*sigh* ....how very true.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:07 AM

Ron is not on the tape. This is all cobra telling the story.

Cobra did not record the convo?

Interesting

So, he knows he would be liable for slander if untrue -- so we should believe him, right?

(the gun to Misty's mouth is all Cobra too?)

Sheesh Louise! he better be able to back those statements up!!!

Ron has a lawyer now

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:08 AM

Really, I just puled it from the links thread on this page. I didn't listen, but the heading said neighbor hears something at 2:30 am.

Nope, nothing

(shrug)

teresa

03-21-2009, 12:09 AM

The neighbor in the video says no such thing about hearing anything at 2:30 in the morning.

Sigh...SWIM?

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 12:10 AM

The neighbor in the video says no such thing about hearing anything at 2:30 in the morning.

Here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_s

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:11 AM

(bolding and underlining mine, to address).......*sigh* ....how very true.No, not true, imo. No one knows with certainty how posters or anyone else feels about anything.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:13 AM

Just like we never were told to beware of kidnapping nannies in the last case.

Exactly ... but at least for awhile Zanny was in the forefront of the news

Nobody is here but Ron and Misty (not Ron so much)

Tells me where LE is headed

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 12:13 AM

I just tried it again and it worked for me. Nothing on that tape surprises.

I think Misty is being pushed into a corner. When someone has her figured out she runs.

Hi all. I hope they can corner her, but she has proven to be slippery like an eel. She walked out on an interview by detectives because they were being "rude" to her. She has guts. Plus she is a minor. Still I hope they can reel her in. Misty is the key. No doubt about that. She has answers that LE needs. Those answers might incriminate her, but still a child is gone, possibly dead, and Misty is just like "ho hum", "oh well". Grrrrrrr jmo

~jomomma~

03-21-2009, 12:14 AM

I think you heard wrong Swar. Or read a rumor somewhere. I haven't missed her show all week and I didn't hear it but maybe I just missed it. I think we would have discussed it to death by now, though. I have read recently that he went the weekend before she was gone but I can't remember why that was pointed out.

i heard it

i'm sure it was JVM. i just looked thru all her transcripts for this week and couldn't find it. wonder why it wouldn't be in them?

i did hear it tho

SavannahStar

03-21-2009, 12:15 AM

No, not true, imo. No one knows with certainty how posters or anyone else feels about anything.One can get the gist by reading posts. Which I do.......FAR more than I respond. :wink:

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:15 AM

Hi all. I hope they can corner her, but she has proven to be slippery like an eel. She walked out on an interview by detectives because they were being "rude" to her. She has guts. Plus she is a minor. Still I hope they can reel her in. Misty is the key. No doubt about that. She has answers that LE needs. Those answers might incriminate her, but still a child is gone, possibly dead, and Misty is just like "ho hum", "oh well". Grrrrrrr jmo

I dont think she is considered a minor now tho is she? maybe thats why Ron married her to take away that status?

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:16 AM

That's what I don't understand. I would think if it's not true, Mr. Cobra Man has a really good case against him, IMO and if nothing else, I wouldn't exactly want RC (or family) pizzed at me for running my mouth all over hell's half acre. :chicken:

I am leaning toward Ron indeed spoke of these things to Cobra

Which brings me back to this Greg character

Because no way in Hades do I believe Ron accepted this information and let it ride

Not from what we have seen of his personality

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:17 AM

Here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_sYep, the reporter said the neighbor heard the disturbance at 2:25 in the morning.

SavannahStar

03-21-2009, 12:19 AM

I have a question and a opinion about Cobra.

I think this Cobra guy brags too much on himself - that is a real turn off to me and also makes me wonder - is he their to find Haleigh or to get attention???

Also, why would he just put all that information for the world to listen to?

I think by him saying what he did in the radio interview or whatever that was...he just LOST MISTY. She will NO LONGER help him and I do not think Ron will either.

Personally, I think if this guy is as good as he " thinks" he is - then why did he not keep that information to himself and try to get in good with Misty?...Then he had a chance at another night to do the step by step of the night Haleigh disappeared. Now, I do not feel like he has any chance at all for Misty to do the step by step.

I think he has lost Ron's trust also - Why would Ron telling him anything again?...He does not want his information all over the radio..I would not think anyway.

I am not surprised that Ron married her to keep her close. When I first heard about the marriage I was so angry. Then I seen the pictures and personally I thought - Ron married her, just to get her information about little Haleigh.

I honestly think Ron would do ANYTHING to find out the truth about where little Haleigh is.

Gosh, I am tired and I am sure this does not make since.

Basically, I am saying if Cobra wanted any kind of information from Misty...he just BLEW IT...by talking on the radio.

MOO

Can we say.....another Leonard Padilla?....... :biggrin:

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:20 AM

Yep Horse I think so too.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:21 AM

I dont think she is considered a minor now tho is she? maybe thats why Ron married her to take away that status?

Legally still a minor but would never fly in the eyes of the Court -- even before the marriage

Maybe Ron is true to his kids and the abuse stuff is crap and he knows he could lose JR because Misty was underage and by law .. unless married, the Courts would take Jr away

Not that any of that would matter in the scheme of things but to his mind, maybe it would

I guess I wish I could take my hinky meter off Ron but I just cannot yet

Something is still not right

(I did see the alleged abuse pics and I would not say they were signs of abuse)

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 12:22 AM

Really, I just puled it from the links thread on this page. I didn't listen, but the heading said neighbor hears something at 2:30 am.

I wonder how this tape evolved into a neighbor heard a scream at 2:30. Actually a neighbor heard the commotion around 3:30 of the police arriving, found out a child was missing, etc. I quess people just make things up. Not your fault. Maybe just leave off a title unless you've checked it yourself. Personally, I'd be pretty lost without your links and I appreciate the fact that you just admitted you had an agenda (a voice for Crystal) even though you previously stated you did not. I quess we all editorialize because we have opinions.

Well that came out convoluted. I really just wanted to say I appreciate the research and links and have no objections to the agenda.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:22 AM

One can get the gist by reading posts. Which I do.......FAR more than I respond. :wink:You can draw your own conclusions but you can't know with certainty what someone else cares about from reading posts on a message board.

I have never once doubted that anyone here cares about finding Haleigh, whether I agree with them over minutia or not. I find it not only unfounded but offensive but I'll consider the source and move on.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:23 AM

Man if true it quite something. Why would "Cobra" (I feel foolish calling a man that. :rolleyes:) have spilled the beans now? Why not talk to Ron more and get more "goods" I wonder? He won't be able to gain his confidence again, that's for sure.

I would say if true, he more than got enough goods

And LE hopefully is on board with it

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 12:23 AM

Yep, the reporter said the neighbor heard the disturbance at 2:25 in the morning.

I finally put this one in the links because we were discussing it on the board every week and it was very time consuming to find it each time.

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:25 AM

Im almost sure I heard/read they were broke up just a few days before they got married.
Maybe Misti told Ron if he didnt trust and believe her it was over and he didnt want to lose an opportunity to keep her close. one thing most agreed on after seeing that wedding video and today show that he had a motvie for marring her and it wasnt because Haleigh wanted it.
So maybe he did tell cobra.
Gosh. I need to borrow Cindys hammer because I cant figure this case out.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:26 AM

I finally put this one in the links because we were discussing it on the board every week and it was very time consuming to find it each time.Thanks for doing that.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:26 AM

Yes and it surprises me none that she would not do a walk through. She left that to others on NG. When she did it with LE, did not work out in her favor. Think pink shirt!

I forgot about the pink shirt!

She said she had it on when she went to bed but it was in the laundry basket by the back door, right

Something else in the inconsistencies

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 12:26 AM

Strange. In post #90 you said:

"One thing you will learn about me is I have no reason to post anything false that I haven't read or seen before. I have no agenda, other than to find the truth wherever it leads."

Pick a lane, Swarovski. You also posted that you've been posting with a person with inside info on another board whose home LE had used as a command post several blocks away from where Haleigh lived, yet you had to Google the street name tonight when asked.

Others may want to continue to believe you but, after seeing your track record, I sure don't.

Hey, don't pick on Swaroski! I agree with the other poster - 98% correct!

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:28 AM

Im almost sure I heard/read they were broke up just a few days before they got married.
Maybe Misti told Ron if he didnt trust and believe her it was over and he didnt want to lose an opportunity to keep her close. one thing most agreed on after seeing that wedding video and today show that he had a motvie for marring her and it was because Haleigh wanted it.
So maybe he did tell cobra.
Gosh. I need to borrow Cindys hammer because I cant figure this case out.

I'm sorry -- I am not sure I understand your post

You think they DID get married because Haleigh wanted it?

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:29 AM

I'm sorry -- I am not sure I understand your post

You think they DID get married because Haleigh wanted it?

Not what I said.well it was but wasnt supposed to be. Ill see if I can change it.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:29 AM

That's true. Why do you think he went public with this, though?

My personal opinion?

He doesn't trust Ron

(shrug)

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:30 AM

Not what I said.well it was but wasnt supposed to be. Ill see if I can change it.

Didn't think so but was unclear (:

I don't think anyone beleives they married for Haleigh

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:31 AM

Thanks to you Money. I grabbed your link on the last page of the link thread. Glad you had the forebearance to save it.

Guess we need a Bible around these parts to swear on.I wouldn't worry about it. What you stated is true and the link is on post #159 for anyone that cares to check it out.

4Kids

03-21-2009, 12:32 AM

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:33 AM

Didn't think so but was unclear (:

I don't think anyone beleives they married for Haleigh

Misti was very happy until after the I do's. It looked like the honey moon was over already on The Today show. then she didnt appear at all with him on NG.
Id like to be a fly on the wall at Mr Mrs Cummings house.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 12:34 AM

Ok after all these months I finally figured out what KWIM and SWIM means! I had to learn the hard way instead of asking.

LOL Sanity. I'm in that same boat with you. I didn't ask either. :laugh:

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:36 AM

Geeze how crazy can it get?

Well the circus has come to town so I expect there is alot more crazy to come.I dont think it will top the A case but will come in 2nd.
Probably 3rd.
Tot mom
Octo mom
babysitter slash girlfriend slash teen bride

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:37 AM

Misti was very happy until after the I do's. It looked like the honey moon was over already on The Today show. then she didnt appear at all with him on NG.
Id like to be a fly on the wall at Mr Mrs Cummings house.

I agree

It was like she got what she wanted then the door was slammed in her face

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:39 AM

I agree

It was like she got what she wanted then the door was slammed in her face

Yep. Burst her bubble.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:40 AM

Well the circus has come to town so I expect there is alot more crazy to come.I dont think it will top the A case but will come in 2nd.

This has far surpassed the Anthony case IMO ... but the media has walked away from it

You could not make up a better cast of characters!!

On that note, I am dead tired and will bid a good nite

As always, a prayer for that poor little child and fire and brimstone to whomever took her

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:41 AM

does anyone think Misti killed Haleigh?
Of all the things Ive thought, Ive never thought Misti, Ron or Crystal has killed that baby.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:42 AM

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:43 AM

This has far surpassed the Anthony case IMO ... but the media has walked away from it

You could not make up a better cast of characters!!

On that note, I am dead tired and will bid a good nite

As always, a prayer for that poor little child and fire and brimstone to whomever took her

Night Tara. I think Im going to follow.

TaraCrazyHair

03-21-2009, 12:44 AM

does anyone think Misti killed Haleigh?
Of all the things Ive thought, Ive never thought Misti, Ron or Crystal has killed that baby.

Last post for the nite ...

I think something happened accidental and the coverup is making it difficult for LE because they are not smart yet they are smarter than what people give them credit for

IMO

(Walking away ... going to bed .. nite)

playnice

03-21-2009, 12:45 AM

Right out the wood works. Just last night i changed my sig and LP crawls right back out of his hole. Both of these men, totally inappropriate, inserting themselves into these cases. Bounty Hunters, all of a sudden who prefer missing child cases where there is no actual bounty? Yeah, Right. GMAB!

Media makes me sick, actually by playing into both of these chasers, and then gives them air time. Please I say..............

LOL. It was good to see Lenny. He grew on me even tho I didnt believe alot of his theorys. I think he has a good heart.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:46 AM

does anyone think Misti killed Haleigh?
Of all the things Ive thought, Ive never thought Misti, Ron or Crystal has killed that baby.I won't go so far as to say I think any of them killed her, but I also won't discount the possibility entirely.

What I feel sure of is that Misty and Ron know way more than they're telling and that's what I hope Cobra gets to the bottom of. Once we get past all the lies and omissions, then maybe we'll know what happened to Haleigh

MoonFlwr

03-21-2009, 12:48 AM

does anyone think Misti killed Haleigh?
Of all the things Ive thought, Ive never thought Misti, Ron or Crystal has killed that baby.

Reading your post - I just realised I hadn't thought that either.

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 12:48 AM

That's true. Why do you think he went public with this, though?

I still think he was calling Ron out. Put up or shut up. Show you have a pair. You only married Misty as a form of keeping your enemy close, then you are admitting you have doubted her. If you HAVE been doubting her, why haven't you done something about it.

Etc, etc, etc.

JMO

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 12:53 AM

My personal opinion?

He doesn't trust Ron

(shrug)

I share that opinion.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:54 AM

Couldn't agree more with you KTee, only thing I will say about Padilla is he did have one or two bits of info that were interesting. It's like these type of characters are the comedy relief in this almost movie-like tragedy.

I was glad Cobra gave the interview, gives everyone something new to talk about, something new to speculate. I hate to say it, but as long as these people keep the fire burnin', then media and people in general will pay closer attention to the case, helping to keep Haleigh in the public eye. I don't agree with the media crying that somehow all of this distracts from Haleigh, I can only see it helping, even if they are all acting like 2nd graders.:rolleyes:

If Misty does know more, her jig will be up very soon. It's got to be exhausting to be her at this point. Also wanted to add, someone up thread said for Misty to call Ron 10 times is a bit excessive for a teen. Not really imo, I wouldn't be surprised if Misty called him 100 times, she's that transparent to me.
jmoThat was me. :smile:

They're both transparent and deserve each other, imo.

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 12:57 AM

Geez...just checking in. I am lost. WTH? Guide me latenighters...I was up to date as of last evening. Cobra? Dunebuggy? 2:30? Blacj Man? Misty Cheating? Anyone interested in giving me a brief overview...or do i have to read the entire 1st thread? I'm begging here....LOL

There is an unofficial transcript here of an interview the PI guy named Cobra did -

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4718.1080

Scroll down to the post by scuterputer

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 12:58 AM

Are you 12? Does "Swaroski" need your help to be more than 98% correct? I think Haleigh deserves 100% accuracy, personally.

The video link that was provided didn't indicate that a neighbor heard anything at 2:30 a.m. In fact, the neighbor said the opposite.

Try again.The link has been provided for you. Why don't you listen to it? Swarovski is correct. The reporter stated the neighbor heard a disturbance at 2:25 AM. It's post #159.

At least try to keep up.

BitterSweet

03-21-2009, 01:04 AM

Prayers for Haleigh.

I am hoping and praying for your SAFE return, sweet girl.

BitterSweet

“"I don't see much sense in that," said Rabbit.
"No," said Pooh humbly, "there isn't. But there was going to be when I began it. It's just that something happened to it along the way."”~Winnie the Pooh~

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 01:04 AM

Playing one against the other. Letting all family members know she backed out of the walk through. LE started this a week ago. Puts pressure on Misty. Her frantic calls tells me it is working.

I think it is, too.

I also think it was very clever to tell the whole bunch of witnesses at the vigil what Cobra wanted Misty to do regarding the re-inactment. All those people can attest that Ron was there, Ron heard Misty say what she said & so on.

And if it is true & if Misty backed out - all those witnesses can now wonder what the devil is Ron waiting for? Why is he willing to bide his time, mosey along, twiddling his thumbs while Misty stalls & stalls & stalls?

Somebody in that bunch is bound to wonder why Ron isn't shaking her until her teeth rattle. Somebody is likely to think along the lines of "it has nearly been six weeks! Way overdue for clearing up inconsistencies".

JMO

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 01:04 AM

Thanks Pickle. I'm on my old clunker laptop (Bessie I call her, lol) and she doesn't like paging backwards, so thanks.

Oh and I agree with you, course there are some other players in this that seem to be extremely transparent to me, but not so much to others. Would you agree or disagree that Teresa Nieves is as transparent?

jmoYou're welcome.

Yes, I agree. I think TN is transparent as well. I think she is a huge enabler for Ron. She's changed a couple of things to coincide with his story. I think she knows more than she's saying also. Ditto ggma Sykes.

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:08 AM

Are you 12? Does "Swaroski" need your help to be more than 98% correct? I think Haleigh deserves 100% accuracy, personally.

The video link that was provided didn't indicate that a neighbor heard anything at 2:30 a.m. In fact, the neighbor said the opposite.

Try again.

I posted the correct link for you previously. I will do so again. It would be nice if you would listen to it and acknowledge the timeframe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_s

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:13 AM

The link has been provided for you. Why don't you listen to it? Swarovski is correct. The reporter stated the neighbor heard a disturbance at 2:25 AM. It's post #159.

At least try to keep up.

We've been burned three times this week...two apologies and still waiting on the long rap sheet. This is a message board, but should we state facts as facts and theories as theories or "maybes" or "I think" or something?

As far as the neighbor in the second video, why do you think LE says their timeline is 7-3:20 something? They must have interviewed this neighbor and not found it credible OR they do find it credible and don't want Misty to know that while they try to figure out the timeline.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 01:15 AM

Just getting ready to say the same Pickle.

I have seen and heard another video that clearly says another neighbor heard noises coming from Ron's trailer approximately 1 hour prior to 911 call. Too late to look up. It is there on youtube. it was discussed here MANY times!!

Thanks for links Swarovski and Moneygirl.
Sorry someone wants to kill the messenger.It has been discussed here many times and I heard the report myself so I knew what the neighbor said .

The messenger killing is getting old.

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:17 AM

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 01:18 AM

You're welcome.

Yes, I agree. I think TN is transparent as well. I think she is a huge enabler for Ron. She's changed a couple of things to coincide with his story. I think she knows more than she's saying also. Ditto ggma Sykes.

A comment was made on another website that I hadn't thought of before - that if Ron ever hit Teresa herself, she would still deny it to protect him. (notice I did say IF).

I have gotten the suspicion over the past week or so that part of her crying is because she is distraught over thinking that Ron knows more than he has been willing to say to LE.

I'm taking a guess that both Teresa & GGM Sykes were present & accounted for during the vigil & when Cobra the PI laid out for the audience what he wanted Misty to do - & why.

Now Teresa & her mother can sit & wonder why Misty backed out. And why Ron is not pushing Misty to cooperate. Teresa was on NG's show on Monday & I KNOW she had to have heard Marc Klaas' remarks to Ron - how Ron had to impress upon Misty that she MUST clear up her inconsistencies with LE, so they can move on with the investigation.

JMO

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:19 AM

I think it is, too.

I also think it was very clever to tell the whole bunch of witnesses at the vigil what Cobra wanted Misty to do regarding the re-inactment. All those people can attest that Ron was there, Ron heard Misty say what she said & so on.

And if it is true & if Misty backed out - all those witnesses can now wonder what the devil is Ron waiting for? Why is he willing to bide his time, mosey along, twiddling his thumbs while Misty stalls & stalls & stalls?

Somebody in that bunch is bound to wonder why Ron isn't shaking her until her teeth rattle. Somebody is likely to think along the lines of "it has nearly been six weeks! Way overdue for clearing up inconsistencies".

JMO

Maybe he is trying? What if he is cooperating with LE because they think she knows something? What if he's wired for them and now she won't trust him at all? I agree it's not likely but if he is trying to get Ron to get something out of her, why make her more scared of him? That would be the opposite of what he (Cobra) should want. What was the benefit?

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:20 AM

There is an unofficial transcript here of an interview the PI guy named Cobra did -

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4718.1080

Scroll down to the post by scuterputer

Thanks for the link!

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 01:23 AM

We've been burned three times this week...two apologies and still waiting on the long rap sheet. This is a message board, but should we state facts as facts and theories as theories or "maybes" or "I think" or something?

As far as the neighbor in the second video, why do you think LE says their timeline is 7-3:20 something? They must have interviewed this neighbor and not found it credible OR they do find it credible and don't want Misty to know that while they try to figure out the timeline.It's been my observation that when wrong, she admits it. In this instance she was not wrong and I agree with Money Girl, after all the accusations, it would be nice if that is at least acknowleged.

It's probable that LE interviewed the neighbor and isn't releasing their findings.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 01:25 AM

does anyone think Misti killed Haleigh?
Of all the things Ive thought, Ive never thought Misti, Ron or Crystal has killed that baby.

Hi Playnice. Either way, Misty is part of the cover up. jmo

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:31 AM

We've been burned three times this week...two apologies and still waiting on the long rap sheet. This is a message board, but should we state facts as facts and theories as theories or "maybes" or "I think" or something?

As far as the neighbor in the second video, why do you think LE says their timeline is 7-3:20 something? They must have interviewed this neighbor and not found it credible OR they do find it credible and don't want Misty to know that while they try to figure out the timeline.

Teresa,
What do you mean by "burned three itmes this week...two apologies and still waiting on the long rap sheet?"

Thanks!

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 01:31 AM

Thank goodness there are posters who have been around here much longer who can warn us of the troublemakers/fakers. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but at least now I know the warning signs from the more seasoned ones. :)

Were the more seasoned ones kind enough to tell you that you may be at risk for being put in time out or going to banned camp if you keep discussing other posters & not the case?

Believe it or not, some of us actually have seen that happen more than a couple of times over the years. I'm not the moderator & I don't make the rules, but I hope I know 'the law' around here.

JMO

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:32 AM

It's been my observation that when wrong, she admits it. In this instance she was not wrong and I agree with Money Girl, after all the accusations, it would be nice if that is at least acknowleged.

It's probable that LE interviewed the neighbor and isn't releasing their findings.

My bold

I've thought about this too. I can't figure out, though, if something happened to Haleigh around 2:25, how did Misty get rid of Haleigh in an hour? And do it so well that LE can't find a body or a clue? And again, we are taking a reporter's word for it and we've seen so many reporting errors in this case.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 01:33 AM

There is an unofficial transcript here of an interview the PI guy named Cobra did -

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4718.1080

Scroll down to the post by scuterputer

The problem I have with this guy, Cobra, is this interview. Why on earth if he is serious about getting to the bottom of this case would he spill all this information? It makes me think he just wants the media attention.
If no one was sitting at that table but this guy and Ronald Cummings then it is his word against Ronald's this stuff was said.

Once Ronald Cummings reads or hears this interview, cooperation with Ronald is over. This guy needs to pack his bag and go on home.
MOO

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:36 AM

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 01:38 AM

LOL. It was good to see Lenny. He grew on me even tho I didnt believe alot of his theorys. I think he has a good heart.

I have to agree playnice I think he did more than caylee's family and if this cobra is there for Haleigh kudos to him he is working without pay.

Man I am so lost just got over here and trying to catch up my head hurts already

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:38 AM

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 01:39 AM

Swarovski provided a link that did not substantiate her claim. The neighbor was very clear on video in what he said.

Money Girl then tried to provide a link where a reporter claimed briefly, and without substantiation, that a neighbor heard something.

At least try to grow up.This is my last post to you because it's clear to me what your agenda is and it's not worth anymore of my time.

Money Girl didn't TRY to provide a link. She DID provide a link. And if you would listen to that link you will hear the reporter state that the neighbor heard a disturbance at 2:25AM.

Move on if you can't admit you're wrong.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 01:40 AM

<bolding mine>

Totally agree with you again, wow. For a long time I felt like I was all alone out on that branch. GGM Sykes is very protective (as I would only expect out of a ggm) over Ronald. I think her story of dropping off laundry that night is a big ole fibberooni, course that's just my opinion.

Some people are saying Ronald married Misty to keep her close, but I cannot agree with that. The way he acted with her and toward her in the first few days after Haleigh disappeared does not jive with that theory. imo.

Gotta agree with you Viking about GGM Sykes. When she waited several days to tell she had been by the house on Mon. and saw Haleigh and Jr., her story seemed suspicious. jmo

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Maybe she just discovered her missing around 2:25. IMO

Innocently? And she waited until Ron got home to tell anyone?? Actually, I could see her doing that. IF the reporter is right, I assume LE has talked to the neighbor and determined if they believe them.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 01:45 AM

Were the more seasoned ones kind enough to tell you that you may be at risk for being put in time out or going to banned camp if you keep discussing other posters & not the case?

Believe it or not, some of us actually have seen that happen more than a couple of times over the years. I'm not the moderator & I don't make the rules, but I hope I know 'the law' around here.

JMO

HEY just asking were is band camp I have heard of it but never been there I never got time out either so I must be a good student..lol..I also try my hardest to be kind to others and never bash anyones post may not agree sometimes. I have been on caylees thread and seemed everyone was getting along and then a post by CW was posted still dont know why it was actually a quiet night.

ok now why I am here Haleigh can I ask who is this overstreet guy I can not keep up with all these people in the 2 cases
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=269248876
TIA If someone can help me out

btw hello to everyone

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 01:47 AM

My bold

I've thought about this too. I can't figure out, though, if something happened to Haleigh around 2:25, how did Misty get rid of Haleigh in an hour? And do it so well that LE can't find a body or a clue? And again, we are taking a reporter's word for it and we've seen so many reporting errors in this case.We have seen a lot of reporting errors, I agree. And we don't know when Haleigh went missing. All we have is Misty's account(s) and imo, they aren't credible because they change and by Misty's own admission, even she doesn't know why.

Imo, it's highly probable that Misty wasn't in the mh the entire night. I think she's lying about that.

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 01:47 AM

Innocently? And she waited until Ron got home to tell anyone?? Actually, I could see her doing that. IF the reporter is right, I assume LE has talked to the neighbor and determined if they believe them.

She could have spent that time looking for Haleigh. IMO

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 01:48 AM

<bolding mine>

Totally agree with you again, wow. For a long time I felt like I was all alone out on that branch. GGM Sykes is very protective (as I would only expect out of a ggm) over Ronald. I think her story of dropping off laundry that night is a big ole fibberooni, course that's just my opinion.

Some people are saying Ronald married Misty to keep her close, but I cannot agree with that. The way he acted with her and toward her in the first few days after Haleigh disappeared does not jive with that theory. imo.

Hi 51 I think at times we are reading each others mind I agree with everything you just said. jmo

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:48 AM

Gotta agree with you Viking about GGM Sykes. When she waited several days to tell she had been by the house on Mon. and saw Haleigh and Jr., her story seemed suspicious. jmo

rosie, she talked to LE within a few minutes of them getting there. Do you really believe that because it wasn't on TV until 8 or 9 days later, that she didn't tell them? LE isn't that stupid. Their timeline starts at 7:00 so they believe her. They say that they offered LDT's to all family members but won't confirm who took them. Don't you think they either asked her or she volunteered? Either way, the timeline is 7:00.

JackiBlu

03-21-2009, 01:50 AM

teresa, I'm pretty new here; however, I have read a number of posts including many from sw. While you may have discovered one or maybe two of his/her posts to be questionable, please remember the other 100 or so that are right on. The last time I graded a paper, a 98% or above still rated a grade of "A"!

Aren't you needed at Murts? JMO

Mimi428

03-21-2009, 01:52 AM

The problem I have with this guy, Cobra, is this interview. Why on earth if he is serious about getting to the bottom of this case would he spill all this information? It makes me think he just wants the media attention.
If no one was sitting at that table but this guy and Ronald Cummings then it is his word against Ronald's this stuff was said.

Once Ronald Cummings reads or hears this interview, cooperation with Ronald is over. This guy needs to pack his bag and go on home.
MOO

I believe a lot of reverse psychology was going on in the way Cobra chose to deal with Ron & Misty.

Ron's story about how he married Misty as a way to "keep your enemies closer" does not make rational sense. Misty can keep saying nothing, which doesn't help the case. Misty can still leave if she wants to - that wedding band isn't a shackle, after all.

She had enough 'whatever' to get up & walk out of an interview with LE when she got P/O'd - she can sure walk out of the door where she & Ron are staying.

If that unofficial transcript is essentially accurate - Cobra taped in front of an audience his spiel to Ron, Misty & all those attending the vigil what he wanted Misty to do - & WHY. Called her out in front of an audience.

And he called Ron out,too. 'Do you want to get these inconsistencies cleared up so we can find your daughter? Good, here's how that can happen. Ooops, your new wife doesn't want to do that now? Why not? And WHY are you just sitting there twiddling your thumbs & not doing a thing in the world to resolve the case of your daughter being missing?'

CWIM?

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 01:53 AM

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 01:54 AM

We have seen a lot of reporting errors, I agree. And we don't know when Haleigh went missing. All we have is Misty's account(s) and imo, they aren't credible because they change and by Misty's own admission, even she doesn't know why.

Imo, it's highly probable that Misty wasn't in the mh the entire night. I think she's lying about that.

I do not feel misty is telling LE everything for one we do not know just like you said pickle she is the only one that knows since no adult was there past 7:30 if grandma is telling the truth. I dont know that she did anything to her on purpose but she in my heart knows more the van still bothers me dont know why but it does. jmo

teresa

03-21-2009, 01:55 AM

She could have spent that time looking for Haleigh. IMO

As in, she comes home from somewhere, finds Haleigh gone, screams for her and then settles down and pretends she just woke up at 3 whatever? Possible I'd say. Or maybe even probable that she found her gone if the neighbor is verified. Even if she just woke up and is innocent of wrongdoing. I sure wish we knew her LTD results.

I think if LE could prove she left them, they would arrest her for child neglect to try to get the truth out of her. I'm so back and forth in this case.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 01:57 AM

Hi 51 I think at times we are reading each others mind I agree with everything you just said. jmo

I agree with every word of it too. Time will tell hopefully. jmo

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:00 AM

As in, she comes home from somewhere, finds Haleigh gone, screams for her and then settles down and pretends she just woke up at 3 whatever? Possible I'd say. Or maybe even probable that she found her gone if the neighbor is verified. Even if she just woke up and is innocent of wrongdoing. I sure wish we knew her LTD results.

I think if LE could prove she left them, they would arrest her for child neglect to try to get the truth out of her. I'm so back and forth in this case.

I was personally thinking she woke up about 2:30 and discovered her missing. I have not seen any evidence that Misty was not at home that evening.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:01 AM

Hey hey ProudMom, great minds and all that, right? lol. I just don't buy into the theory that Ron would take such a huge step as marrying Misty, just to keep his enemies close. Nope, gotta think like Ron on that one, it goes much deeper. In my humblest of opinions, :laugh:

yeah I agree that is a huge step and if he was doing it to get her to talk more no not even going there I do not think that is why I do not think LE ask him to. I just plan do not know..lol..help me out 51 I am going insane. It is just so hard to think someone comes in your home and takes a child 4 feet away leaves light on and a door open and you hear nothing but I guess she may have been very tired then when you see the light on you dont freak out and call 911 or family to get over there I would have been scared to death thinking someone was still in there actually I would have had a light on in the first place seems like a remote dark area. jmo

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:01 AM

I do not feel misty is telling LE everything for one we do not know just like you said pickle she is the only one that knows since no adult was there past 7:30 if grandma is telling the truth. I dont know that she did anything to her on purpose but she in my heart knows more the van still bothers me dont know why but it does. jmoI think the van bothers a lot of people. I've seen it mentioned many times. LE doesn't seem to think it's important so I don't know what to make of the van.

I wonder why Misty never mentioned ggma Sykes being there that night. One of them is lying.

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:01 AM

You're a good person Teresa, I always admire a person who can see something for what it is. I don't like to insult people on this board, or any board, because when you get to the guts of it, does it really matter?

Some people need to step away for a while and then come back to the boards, especially when they are needling, like I've seen tonight.

Swar is a phenomenal poster, always posting links, always bringing us news. I would hate to insult such a valued poster and person such as Swar is. I don't know her from you, I'm just sayin' that usually she's right on the money and I value her input and information/news/links/opinions greatly. No right or wrong here, just think it was nice of you to write what you wrote and move along. Hopefully more will follow with your line of thinking, enabling this board to stay open.

Sorry for buttin' in, but jmo.

Same to you 51. I spent 20 years proof reading and fact checking reports to the SEC and I can't help but ask for proof of things. I was good at my job! But, I should have dropped it. We all want the same outcome here, I do believe that.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:04 AM

As in, she comes home from somewhere, finds Haleigh gone, screams for her and then settles down and pretends she just woke up at 3 whatever? Possible I'd say. Or maybe even probable that she found her gone if the neighbor is verified. Even if she just woke up and is innocent of wrongdoing. I sure wish we knew her LTD results.

I think if LE could prove she left them, they would arrest her for child neglect to try to get the truth out of her. I'm so back and forth in this case.

You are not the only one teresa I go back and forth to it is so hard. so your not alone so many:confused:

JackiBlu

03-21-2009, 02:05 AM

I would think she had to have help, was the van back when Ron came home or when the police got there? or Maybe if Misty had a visitor and Haliegh saw him, they(Misty and the visitor) were both afraid of Ron, he took Haleigh by the river and who knows what happened. We know her tennis shoes weren't on but he changed her shirt and hid it in the bottom of the laundry?? That really doesn't make sense at all. I don't think she was home but what I think really doesn't matter. I would still like to know if she had on pj's, she couldn't have slept in the nude cause she was sleeping with a little boy and who would take the time to change when a child was missing?

Where did you hear Haleigh's shirt was HIDDEN in the bottom of the laundry?

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:07 AM

I don't know if Misty actually said she awoke at 3. I think she originally just said she saw a 3 on the clock. Maybe it was 2:30.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:10 AM

mema? just listening to cobra I am pretty lost is this guy for real.
you know if this is for real and he is saying these things and they are lies can you not get sued?is this really this guy someone help me:tonguewag:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:11 AM

I was personally thinking she woke up about 2:30 and discovered her missing. I have not seen any evidence that Misty was not at home that evening.

Then why wait to call for help? Stupidity? Fear of Ron? She had to face him when he got home. Wouldn't she at least have gone to the next door neighbor for help? You know, we really have no clue what time Haleigh was taken if Misty really did fall asleep between 10-11:00.

JackiBlu

03-21-2009, 02:12 AM

Oh yes, that van bothers me greatly. I do not think LE will say so. I just think this story has too many coincidences and that van is a major one.

If the van was important to Haleigh missing I don't think LE would have released it back to the owners. JMO

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:13 AM

Oh yes, that van bothers me greatly. I do not think LE will say so. I just think this story has too many coincidences and that van is a major one.Didn't they release it TREE? That's when I questioned the importance of the van. But you could be right. They may have gotten what they needed and just aren't saying anything.

Lol, that does seem to be the pattern with them. They say virtually nothing.

justagal71

03-21-2009, 02:14 AM

I believe a lot of reverse psychology was going on in the way Cobra chose to deal with Ron & Misty.

Ron's story about how he married Misty as a way to "keep your enemies closer" does not make rational sense. Misty can keep saying nothing, which doesn't help the case. Misty can still leave if she wants to - that wedding band isn't a shackle, after all.

She had enough 'whatever' to get up & walk out of an interview with LE when she got P/O'd - she can sure walk out of the door where she & Ron are staying.

If that unofficial transcript is essentially accurate - Cobra taped in front of an audience his spiel to Ron, Misty & all those attending the vigil what he wanted Misty to do - & WHY. Called her out in front of an audience.

And he called Ron out,too. 'Do you want to get these inconsistencies cleared up so we can find your daughter? Good, here's how that can happen. Ooops, your new wife doesn't want to do that now? Why not? And WHY are you just sitting there twiddling your thumbs & not doing a thing in the world to resolve the case of your daughter being missing?'

CWIM?

this is just my opinion of course....but i think ron knows misty wasnt home the night haleigh was taken, and knows if it comes out he'll more than likely lose custody of jr, and if haleigh is ever found her too. he was already being investigated by cps before she went missing, he knew he'd lose them if it was found out.

MoonFlwr

03-21-2009, 02:14 AM

I don't know if Misty actually said she awoke at 3. I think she originally just said she saw a 3 on the clock. Maybe it was 2:30.

Yes, I remember that from the initial reports. (She saw a 3 on the clock).

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:15 AM

Then why wait to call for help? Stupidity? Fear of Ron? She had to face him when he got home. Wouldn't she at least have gone to the next door neighbor for help? You know, we really have no clue what time Haleigh was taken if Misty really did fall asleep between 10-11:00.

Maybe she spent that time looking for her.

The only times I have seen guesstimated for the kidnapping is 12:39-12:40 by the Forensic Astrologer (Soulscape).

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:18 AM

this is just my opinion of course....but i think ron knows misty wasnt home the night haleigh was taken, and knows if it comes out he'll more than likely lose custody of jr, and if haleigh is ever found her too. he was already being investigated by cps before she went missing, he knew he'd lose them if it was found out.I think that's very likely. Good point.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:18 AM

You and me both Proud and in fact, I am alone at night and for the very reason you stated, I keep a light on both levels just to make me feel a little more safe. I also stay awake late, as you can tell, lol and I do NOT sleep light at night, at all. Which is why I find Misty's story so odd, unless there are drugs involved, I see no reason how a 17 yo can be so exhausted that she doesn't hear a thing. Can't compare my life to Misty's, it's like night and day, but I just don't buy the whole "exhaustion" story. That girl is lying as good as Casey A., imo. I watch her video pleas and how she tries to convince everyone of her love for those children, how much they loved her and how she would never hurt a child and as many times as I have watched it, I still cannot find one shred in me that believes her, hopefully I am proven wrong.

jmo
I do to 51 I always have a light on and I stay up late also as you can see..lol..what do you think of this cobra interview and what he is saying I just got over here and I am so lost I heard him say misty was not there more than likey and had been with someone a week before this. does anyone remember when it was reported that RC went back and got misty cause they broke up right before this all happened. I am almost positive someone said this can not remember if it was that weekend but I dont have a link.

Does anyone else know or did they also hear this?

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:20 AM

If the van was important to Haleigh missing I don't think LE would have released it back to the owners. JMO

The van was released to the owners. Following is the link.

"Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said the technicians at the FDLE lab did not find any information on the van that is linked to the Haliegh Cummings' case."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=134179&catid=295

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:21 AM

Maybe she spent that time looking for her.

The only times I have seen guesstimated for the kidnapping is 12:39-12:40 by the Forensic Astrologer (Soulscape).

Now you've really got me wanting to find that Chad Reynolds guy again. The one that went from "Endangered" to "Absconded/Fugitive" on his wanted posters in the same district Haleigh lives in.

Still, why would she lie? Even if she only saw a 3, wouldn't she know she looked for an hour before Ron came home instead of just a few minutes? I know she's not too bright but that's a pretty big difference.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:21 AM

Maybe she spent that time looking for her.

The only times I have seen guesstimated for the kidnapping is 12:39-12:40 by the Forensic Astrologer (Soulscape).

Hi Money Girl
can I ask what a Forensic Astrologer is and why that time? never heard of that

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:24 AM

We have seen a lot of reporting errors, I agree. And we don't know when Haleigh went missing. All we have is Misty's account(s) and imo, they aren't credible because they change and by Misty's own admission, even she doesn't know why.

Imo, it's highly probable that Misty wasn't in the mh the entire night. I think she's lying about that.

I have to agree with you on Misty being out of the MH for a period of time that night. There is just simply no other way around her not being able to recap correctly what happened when she found Haleigh gone. She was trying to wing it with her story and it just does not flush!

MOO

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:27 AM

Yes they did. I think many of us are used to the fact that LE kept Casey's car. That is not how it always happens though. I just cannot imagine it going missing as such a coincidence. Also sounds to me they found no foreign DNA or fingerprints in it. I just want more info on it and who all had been in it previously.

Hi TREE I feel real stupid I have ask so many things just trying to catch up but as far as the van if they were trying to pull prints if misty or anyone such as family has used it then their prints would be all over it. I just can not get over the fact of the SIL saying it had been moved and the big scratch down the side I am sure LE got dirt samples and prints and looked for any stains and once they were done handed it back over and just have kept everything hush hush. JMO

JackiBlu

03-21-2009, 02:27 AM

The van was released to the owners. Following is the link.

"Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said the technicians at the FDLE lab did not find any information on the van that is linked to the Haliegh Cummings' case."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=134179&catid=295

That is what I said.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:28 AM

You're a good person Teresa, I always admire a person who can see something for what it is. I don't like to insult people on this board, or any board, because when you get to the guts of it, does it really matter?

Some people need to step away for a while and then come back to the boards, especially when they are needling, like I've seen tonight.

Swar is a phenomenal poster, always posting links, always bringing us news. I would hate to insult such a valued poster and person such as Swar is. I don't know her from you, I'm just sayin' that usually she's right on the money and I value her input and information/news/links/opinions greatly. No right or wrong here, just think it was nice of you to write what you wrote and move along. Hopefully more will follow with your line of thinking, enabling this board to stay open.

Sorry for buttin' in, but jmo.

Great Post 51.
I know Swar from another board and we have been posting together for a long time.

ITA with your post!

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 02:28 AM

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:29 AM

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:30 AM

Hi Money Girl
can I ask what a Forensic Astrologer is and why that time? never heard of that

Forensic Astrology is the art of using Horary and Birth Charts in combination to determine the nature of events as they occurred in unsolved crimes and missing persons cases. (I don't know anything about it; found this description on the internet.)

What I read was something about birth charts/event charts/planetary positions. It is all Greek to me, but I picked up on Soulscape's name becaue of her success in some things about Caylee Anthony.

This isn't even my opinion; it's just things I found when researching this.

MoonFlwr

03-21-2009, 02:32 AM

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:32 AM

I have to agree with you on Misty being out of the MH for a period of time that night. There is just simply no other way around her not being able to recap correctly what happened when she found Haleigh gone. She was trying to wing it with her story and it just does not flush!

MOOI think that Ron knows she wasn't there but also knows that he could lose custody if Misty admitted that, So they agreed to cover it up and maybe thought getting married would help. I also suspect that TN and ggma Sykes know she left the kids alone but are also covering it up for the same reason.

I don't believe any of their stories. They don't add up, imo.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:34 AM

I may be a gullible fool but I may be the only one here that thinks that Misti is telling the whole truth. It's not much of a story, but if it happened like she says, the fact that she has not tried to embellish it no matter how much pressure they apply to her says it all. I think the final step was for LE to announce publicly that she was inconsistent (when she really wasn't). If she had been lying this would have make her start adding to her story. She's not that smart or cunning or arrogant. I think we're seeing an innocent, unsophicated, underpriveleged girl telling a simple, horrifying story but WITHOUT GUILE.

The families are flawed, but none of them know anything about this child's disappearance and probable murder.

I can appreciate what you wrote about Misty. So, having said that maybe Misty is telling the truth on what parts of the story she is telling. Maybe there is an omission in the recap. An omission that would fill in the blanks on how someone could get in and take the child.

MOO

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:36 AM

I may be a gullible fool but I may be the only one here that thinks that Misti is telling the whole truth. It's not much of a story, but if it happened like she says, the fact that she has not tried to embellish it no matter how much pressure they apply to her says it all. I think the final step was for LE to announce publicly that she was inconsistent (when she really wasn't). If she had been lying this would have make her start adding to her story. She's not that smart or cunning or arrogant. I think we're seeing an innocent, unsophicated, underpriveleged girl telling a simple, horrifying story but WITHOUT GUILE.

The families are flawed, but none of them know anything about this child's disappearance and probable murder.

Factually, I think you are correct. As far as I know, nothing Misty told has been proven false. I think everyone started questioning "everything" when LE first mentioned the inconsistencies prior to the Today Show interview. Hopefully, everything is correct as stated, and we can all quit grasping at straws. Like the families, we just want Haleigh found safely.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:37 AM

Mimi is right guys. I had to sign up again because I couldn't remember my userid/password from 2005 and we are going to get in trouble. Swar apologized and I'm willing to go forward as all friends.

We all want Haleigh found and if anyone has hurt her a hair on her body, for them to see justice. No matter who did this.

I agree teresa I try to sign off when I feel I have had enough or I am getting cranky cause I take things the wrong way and hate to be neg. against anyone on here. I appreciate everyones post and we do not all have to agree but alot of you have brought up things I never thought of so Kudos to you I agree love ya all like family..lol..

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:39 AM

I may be a gullible fool but I may be the only one here that thinks that Misti is telling the whole truth. It's not much of a story, but if it happened like she says, the fact that she has not tried to embellish it no matter how much pressure they apply to her says it all. I think the final step was for LE to announce publicly that she was inconsistent (when she really wasn't). If she had been lying this would have made her start adding to her story. She's not that smart or cunning or arrogant. I think we're seeing an innocent, unsophicated, underpriveleged girl telling a simple, horrifying story but WITHOUT GUILE.

The families are flawed, but none of them know anything about this child's disappearance and probable murder.

No, not the only fool :smile: If I had to take a stance, I would agree to that because her inconsistencies are easily explainable to me. But if anyone from the two families is hiding something, I do believe it would have to be her. The only way I could see Crystal's side involved would be if some member of her family arranged it without her knowledge not expecting it to blow up into a national story like this.

I still go with a SO as the culprit unfortunately. I do see Misty getting more defensive so if she is hiding something, I expect her to make a mistake very soon.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:43 AM

I think that Ron knows she wasn't there but also knows that he could lose custody if Misty admitted that, So they agreed to cover it up and maybe thought getting married would help. I also suspect that TN and ggma Sykes know she left the kids alone but are also covering it up for the same reason.

I don't believe any of their stories. They don't add up, imo.

I'd hate to believe that ggma Sykes and TN are lying to cover up something horrible that happened to Haleigh. Their love for Haleigh seems genuine to me and especially TN. Maybe they just believe what Misty is telling them.

MOO

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:44 AM

That is what is confusing me...WHY..would Cobra open his mouth like that?...I mean, if he really wanted that walk through ( which I think is an excellent idea)....I think Cobra BLEW IT..it will never happen now..imo.

I am also confused ( and tired)..but, I don't hear on the tape where he say's Ron married Misty to keep her close and to get information from her...can someone tell me what I am missing here?

I have thought that about Ron...but, I thought is was on the tape and I did not hear it.

MOOIt's on there but probably not in those exact words. The transcript link has been posted on this thread but I'm too lazy to look for it. :smile:

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:44 AM

I agree teresa I try to sign off when I feel I have had enough or I am getting cranky cause I take things the wrong way and hate to be neg. against anyone on here. I appreciate everyones post and we do not all have to agree but alot of you have brought up things I never thought of so Kudos to you I agree love ya all like family..lol..

You're such a sweetie. I also have a splitting headache. I need to be in bed but you all keep me up!

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:46 AM

OK, I am new to this board, I should not have used the word hidden, I have googled as to where I heard the shirt was at the bottom of the laundry for the last 1/2 hour, I have watched and read too many things about this case and really don't know where I heard it, so this was a lesson well learned! Sorry!!!

Welcome doglover
It is fine it is very hard to keep up all I heard was it was found by misty as LE was walking her through the house and it was by the back door now I also heard TN say when she was walking through with NG show that usually there was a bunch of laundry back there in the floor when we saw it that was after they cleaned it up all questions are welcomed most posters try thier hardest to help out if you ask and if they know they will correct you. so welcome to the board.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 02:48 AM

I'd hate to believe that ggma Sykes and TN are lying to cover up something horrible that happened to Haleigh. Their love for Haleigh seems genuine to me and especially TN. Maybe they just believe what Misty is telling them.

MOOThey probably don't believe that Misty or Ron did anything to Haleigh. I meant they are covering up because if Misty was gone, Ron could lose custody.

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:48 AM

If Jr. saw a man in black take Haleigh wouldn't he wake up Misty and tell her? I guess no one knows what a child that age would do and I would assume that Jr. has been asked if Misty was there when he took her. Did GR ask him that?

They asked him and he said yes. Crystal asked him if he went back to sleep after the man took Sissy and I believe he answered yes. I just watched that video again yesterday and I think I'm right but my head hurts so don't hold me to it.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:51 AM

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 02:51 AM

I've tried for many hours to envision a scenario in which Hayleigh is still alive and safe. All of them are probably fairy tales. :crying:

I even theorized that Chad R. had the most motive (paying child support on 2 more kids plus listening to Crystal's tales of Ron being abusive) so he gets some unsavory associates to pull it off (the kidnapping) thinking he would have them release the child in a few days at a safe place or even a street corner (like the kidnapped child in Las Vegas). Well as in most evil plans something goes awry and the child smothers in the trunk or at someone's hands trying to keep her quiet. I did not think Crystal knew about his involvemsnt. He looked very underhanded at the Geraldo interview. I was hoping she would show up safe and the bad quys would be caught.

It's gone on too long though for anything less than murder to have happened. There is no happy ending as much as I've tried to dream one up. I think a stranger did it, not Chad or any family but I thought he was the only one with a motive, the best, money and love.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:54 AM

That is what is confusing me...WHY..would Cobra open his mouth like that?...I mean, if he really wanted that walk through ( which I think is an excellent idea)....I think Cobra BLEW IT..it will never happen now..imo.

I am also confused ( and tired)..but, I don't hear on the tape where he say's Ron married Misty to keep her close and to get information from her...can someone tell me what I am missing here?

I have thought that about Ron...but, I thought is was on the tape and I did not hear it.

MOO

Hi horse
I just listened to it he did say RC told him remember to always keep your enemys close so dont know if maybe that is what you heard but I took it as he was talking about misty. If true Cobra blew it by putting it out there he should have kept it close to his vest if he wanted help from RC or misty. jmo

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 02:55 AM

They probably don't believe that Misty or Ron did anything to Haleigh. I meant they are covering up because if Misty was gone, Ron could lose custody.

Oh, gotcha!

I've been reading all the Casey Anthony docs tonight :blink:
Too much reading.

teresa

03-21-2009, 02:55 AM

Money Girl

03-21-2009, 02:55 AM

If Jr. saw a man in black take Haleigh wouldn't he wake up Misty and tell her? I guess no one knows what a child that age would do and I would assume that Jr. has been asked if Misty was there when he took her. Did GR ask him that?

I haven't heard when Jr was placed in Misty's bed. I had assumed it was around the same time as Haleigh, but this week I heard he was originally on the sofa.

SwineFeld

03-21-2009, 02:57 AM

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 02:57 AM

Apologies for the persistent typos. I can spell but I have to type with one hand. I know, excuses, excuses. :glare:

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 02:59 AM

That's what I am thinking also. Most importantly w/ touch DNA, you just cannot wipe those cells away like you can fingerprints. Who took the van that night, then brought it back to the same area? I sure wish someone would ask the SIL more questions......like if there was a difference in the gas missing.......etc. LE has kept so much about the van on the down low......KWIM?

oh my gosh yes the gas I know I alway look at my gas gauge good thinking TREE see I never thought of that. thank ya go give me one more thing to think about..lol...I hope they ask also who had keys if they locked it up I would think LE would have ask all those things since she said it had been moved and the scratch is this the SIL of the brother that was at RC place that night? and the blanket misty was talking about.

doctor_J

03-21-2009, 03:00 AM

You mean Chad G, right? I thought that a lot at first, but he says he took a LDT. Chad R is the one who worries me. If he is hid out in that forest he spent parts of his childhood in, he could have Haleigh and be hid out with her. That's the only hope I have for her being alive even though she would be going through an awful awful experience with him.

Yes, of course, Sorry.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 03:02 AM

That is what is confusing me...WHY..would Cobra open his mouth like that?...I mean, if he really wanted that walk through ( which I think is an excellent idea)....I think Cobra BLEW IT..it will never happen now..imo.

I am also confused ( and tired)..but, I don't hear on the tape where he say's Ron married Misty to keep her close and to get information from her...can someone tell me what I am missing here?

I have thought that about Ron...but, I thought is was on the tape and I did not hear it.

MOO

I posted earlier about this same thing. Why on earth would this guy (Cobra) come out with all this information now. Sure fire guarantee that all bets are off for a trusting relationship with Ron after this!

Crazy if you ask me. Why tell all this stuff that went on right now?
More to it, got to be.
MOO

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:04 AM

Hello

I am new here, I have been following this board for about a week now, and just registered. I had only heard about Haleigh once right after this happened, I don't have cable anymore so I can't watch NG (but that's probably a good thing :laugh: ). I knew a little girl was missing, but I saw nothing else about it till the Today Show last week. I have learned alot about this case in the past week from this forum and others.

Anyway just wanted to introduce myself and say that I hope Haleigh is found soon:wub: and that the person(s) responsible are dealt with:cursing:

Welcome Trinity
glad to have you here

MoonFlwr

03-21-2009, 03:06 AM

Hello

I am new here, I have been following this board for about a week now, and just registered. I had only heard about Haleigh once right after this happened, I don't have cable anymore so I can't watch NG (but that's probably a good thing ). I knew a little girl was missing, but I saw nothing else about it till the Today Show last week. I have learned alot about this case in the past week from this forum and others.

Anyway just wanted to introduce myself and say that I hope Haleigh is found soon:wub: and that the person(s) responsible are dealt with:cursing:

Welcome, Trinity and doglover! :seeya:

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:06 AM

How long has Misty been with Ron? How long has she been living with him? Where did/how did they meet? I don't think I ever heard a sure answer.

Anyway, I was looking at the comments left on Misty's cousin Brandon's myspace page and Misty's one comment to him says she can't go home. That her dad kicked her, Tim and Chel (I assume Tim's wife Chelsea....Tim is her brother) out of the house. It was dated Sept. 26, 2008. I guess soon after she moved in with/hooked up with Ron?

When you click the link, go to page 3. Look about halfway down the page. Her name is !!Please bring Haleigh home!!

http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=269248876&MyToken=9d406ddd-5300-4b16-858d-2c693ffc876f

The link goes to the myspace login page for me. That sounds about the right time frame, though. I would guess she was hanging out a little bit with Ron before that if it's true that her parents were asking him his age. Is Chelsea the SIL that's a neighbor or the other SIL?

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:09 AM

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:09 AM

How long has Misty been with Ron? How long has she been living with him? Where did/how did they meet? I don't think I ever heard a sure answer.

Anyway, I was looking at the comments left on Misty's cousin Brandon's myspace page and Misty's one comment to him says she can't go home. That her dad kicked her, Tim and Chel (I assume Tim's wife Chelsea....Tim is her brother) out of the house. It was dated Sept. 26, 2008. I guess soon after she moved in with/hooked up with Ron?

When you click the link, go to page 3. Look about halfway down the page. Her name is !!Please bring Haleigh home!!

http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=269248876&MyToken=9d406ddd-5300-4b16-858d-2c693ffc876f

HI
I am just going to tell you what I think is right without a link someone can correct me if I am wrong
misty and RC got togather in November how they met I heard she was babysitting someones child and that is how they met for some reason I thought it was Ambers whos baby may be RC. I dont have a link so I will put JMO.

Leather&Lace

03-21-2009, 03:09 AM

How long has Misty been with Ron? How long has she been living with him? Where did/how did they meet? I don't think I ever heard a sure answer.

Anyway, I was looking at the comments left on Misty's cousin Brandon's myspace page and Misty's one comment to him says she can't go home. That her dad kicked her, Tim and Chel (I assume Tim's wife Chelsea....Tim is her brother) out of the house. It was dated Sept. 26, 2008. I guess soon after she moved in with/hooked up with Ron?

When you click the link, go to page 3. Look about halfway down the page. Her name is !!Please bring Haleigh home!!

http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=269248876&MyToken=9d406ddd-5300-4b16-858d-2c693ffc876f

Good Lord, Misty would have been 16 y/o in September. What kind of dad kicks a 16 y/o out of the house? I've got a mental picture of him.
Geesh.

MOO

SwineFeld

03-21-2009, 03:12 AM

Ok, try this. Then scroll down to his comments and click on VIEW ALL. Then go to page 3. Hope this works.

http://www.myspace.com/brandon12345b

The link goes to the myspace login page for me. That sounds about the right time frame, though. I would guess she was hanging out a little bit with Ron before that if it's true that her parents were asking him his age. Is Chelsea the SIL that's a neighbor or the other SIL?

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:12 AM

Well if there is an arrest we might just see the walk through LE did. Once Ron lawyered up, I think there went the opportunity for him to get Misty to do it. Now the same family who has done various interviews and walkthroughs know Misty will not even do that in hopes of finding a little girl who is their blood relative. Lots of pressure on Misty who is backed into a corner.

He only lawyered up for the child custody and they do not represent Misty at all. I'm sure they will advise him to do everything he can to get Misty to cooperate as best as she can.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 03:12 AM

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:13 AM

Apologies for the persistent typos. I can spell but I have to type with one hand. I know, excuses, excuses. :glare:

I forgive you I have typos and I am using 2 hands:laugh:

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:15 AM

HI
I am just going to tell you what I think is right without a link someone can correct me if I am wrong
misty and RC got togather in November how they met I heard she was babysitting someones child and that is how they met for some reason I thought it was Ambers whos baby may be RC. I dont have a link so I will put JMO.

I thought they moved from the other MH in November but were already together? They may just be me assuming. I think Ron's old neighbor that Swarovski reads said she lived at the old one too??

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:22 AM

He only lawyered up for the child custody and they do not represent Misty at all. I'm sure they will advise him to do everything he can to get Misty to cooperate as best as she can.

I must agree with you teresa
he has 2 right? I can see them advising him on what he should not do such as media or having them during all interviews but they made it clear they would not be rep. misty only RC with this custody of Jr.

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:25 AM

I just got around to listening to the radio interview with COBRA. I was floored! I have never heard anyone talk like that on a public radio program( if it is a public one). Is this broadcast on the same channel that Howard Stern is on? Vinnie Politan,too? Does the FCC allow that subject matter and language on a radio station that is an open broadcast? This man did not preface any of this "he said,she said" with words like alledged,imo, according to his (the person quoted) observations, an unnamed source or any disclaimer! He just flat out put all this hearsay out there and even stated "WE did a well-check (along with law enforcement)." Do you think police (LE),especially state and federal, would give this man any inside information? They have been so guarded. Please someone tell me is he a PI,bounty hunter or what? And what kind of licensure/accreditation/training/state authorization do people of this ilk have to have in the State of Florida? I believe there are reputable people in this field (I think). If he can break this case wide-open fine but to state all the things he did more or less as fact without back-up is incredible! Who are these people he is talking about? I thought he said white Greg,then I thought he said black Greg. How many Greg's are there? He even was quoting someone and said they said the "n-word Greg". How politically correct of him after possibly slandering/libeling a whole bunch of people! And he said, "I almost broke this case" (paraphrase) if Misty (or Missy I though I heard) had gone through with the re-creation. Did he call re-creating the events of the evening Haleigh of Haleigh's disappearance a "visual"? Never heard that term. And if he does find out something significant from whatever source-his investigation/interviews/observations/"he said, she said" , can it be used as expert testimony or even valid information in a Court of Law? Please someone help me out here! Who is this person and how can he spout out all this "stuff" as if his mouth is a Prayer Book? How do other posters feel? Is this a 15 minutes of fame ploy? Yes, I listened TWICE (guilty as charged!) and now after 37/38 days I do not know anything more than the factual truth that Haleigh's disappeared! ALL JMOVHO :confused::ohmy::glare:

Yes, yes. Also, how would a walk through with Misty solve anything other than possibly her timeline? That's not "breaking the case" at all. I always thought there was a difference between PI's and bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are looking for guilty parties that run away, not solving child abductions or murders. They try to find people not solve crimes.

He wants Dog's show. I promise I won't watch it.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:28 AM

I thought they moved from the other MH in November but were already together? They may just be me assuming. I think Ron's old neighbor that Swarovski reads said she lived at the old one too??

Thanks alot was not real sure and did not have a link but I am sure you are right he wanted a bigger place didnt he so I am thinking you are right. I heard them say they had been togather for 5 or 6 months when this happened so that would be about right.

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 03:32 AM

I just got around to listening to the radio interview with COBRA. I was floored! I have never heard anyone talk like that on a public radio program if it is a public one. Is this broadcast on the same channel that Howard Stern is on? Vinnie Politan,too? Does the FCC allow that subject matter and language on a radio station that is an open broadcast? This man did not preface any of this "he said,she said" with words like alledged,imo, according to his (the person quoted) observations, an unnamed source or any disclaimer! He just flat out put all this hearsay out there and even stated "WE did a well-check (along with law enforcement)." Do you think police (LE),especially state and federal, would give this man any inside information. They have been so guarded. Please someone tell me is he a PI,bounty hunter or what? And what kind of licensure/accreditation/training/state authorization do people of this ilk have to have in the State of Florida? I believe there are reputable people in this field (I think). If he can break this case wide-open fine but to state all the things he did more or less as fact without back-up is incredible! Who are these people he is talking about? I thought he said white Greg,then I thought he said black Greg. How many Greg's are there? He even was quoting someone and said they said the "n-word Greg". How politically correct of him after possibly slandering/libeling a whole bunch of people! And he said, "I almost broke this case" (paraphrase) if Misty (or Missy I though I heard) had gone through with the re-creation. Did he call re-creating the events of the evening Haleigh of Haleigh's disappearance a "visual"? Never heard that term. And if he does find out something significant from whatever source-his investigation/interviews/observations/"he said, she said" , can it be used as expert testimony or even valid information in a Court of Law? Please someone help me out here! Who is this person and how can he spout out all this "stuff" as if his mouth is a Prayer Book? How do other posters feel? Is this a 15 minutes of fame ploy? Yes, I listened TWICE (guilty as charged!) and now after 37/38 days I do not know anything more than the factual truth that Haleigh's disappeared! ALL JMOVHO :confused::ohmy:Wow, that's a lot of questions. :smile: He's a PI and bounty hunter that imo, has a proven track record and despite all the unfounded accusations and name calling from a few, I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary.

He claims to have 30 yrs experience in his field and again, I have not seen any credible evidence that he's lying about that or anything else he claims.

I googled him when I first heard he was coming into the case and found an article about him being responsible for the capture of a terroist. In that article, LE, I think it was the FBI praised him for that particular case, so I assume that LE is aware of him and what he does.

I don't have a link but it has been posted here so maybe it's in the links thread. At any rate, info on him is available if you want to take the time to find it.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:37 AM

Good Lord, Misty would have been 16 y/o in September. What kind of dad kicks a 16 y/o out of the house? I've got a mental picture of him.
Geesh.

MOO

OK I think we know why this girl is out with a 25 yr old if her dad kicked her out at 16..omg..no matter the reason they were responsible for her. wonder why they did not just allow her to marry months ago then since they kicked her out. sorry that is wrong for any parent to do.

Rushbo

03-21-2009, 03:39 AM

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/21/news/news02.txt

sleuth

03-21-2009, 03:41 AM

I have not got to read the boards all day. Swarovski.. or anyone.. has Ron been out dune bugging?

Also, what Cobra Tape?...Can someone tell me what was on it..or lead me to a place I can listen?

I would appreciate any help on getting caught up today.
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http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
here is cobra's report

i_pickle

03-21-2009, 03:46 AM

TY for your response, pickle. And teresa, you are one of nicest posters I have encountered on a forum. And Swar you are a jewel and assett on this forum. MOHOYou're welcome. Sorry if I sounded cranky and not very helpful but I'm tired and should probably just go to bed, lol.

Again, my apologies. Have a good one, JustUs and everyone.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:46 AM

SanityCheck...I have really TRIED to ignore your post...but, PLEASE can we stay with talking about Haleigh????

I don't have the time to read a lot and this board is the BEST IMO, and I depend a lot on the links that Swaroski provides for little Haileigh..if not for her and a few others, I could not keep up with what is going on in the news.

Ok, to my question.....I have said from day 1 Misty hold the clue to little Haleigh missing and I still beleive that.

When I listen to the tape of Misty Croslin's ( SIL..I think it is) and she talks about Misty calling her that night and saying...please tell me you put the scratches on " my" van.

Is that Misty's van?

That is the first information that I have seen that...Misty does not know what happened...did anyone else take it that way? ( the phone call from Misty).

The above is MOO

Hi horse
I read it was used by the family but you are correct at one time misty does say her van. If I could remember were I seen they all used it I would send you the link cause it confussed me when she said my van maybe someone else read it also. I know they did return it to the SIL. I have no clue maybe she was allowing them to use it. I figured since she said the blanket was in there is why they took it to be tested for things.

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:52 AM

TY for your response, pickle. And teresa, you are one of nicest posters I have encountered on a forum. And Swar you are a jewel and assett on this forum. MOHO

Thank you JustUs. Being too nice has certainly make my life harder! I've been a little snippy tonight and I feel really bad about it. I really appreciate your knowledge.

My brother was a defense attorney (he died really young) and through him, I learned to give people the benefit of the doubt. I just want the right person arrested instead of just any person. Soon I hope, because I have become obsessed.

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 03:58 AM

Thank you JustUs. Being too nice has certainly make my life harder! I've been a little snippy tonight and I feel really bad about it. I really appreciate your knowledge.

My brother was a defense attorney (he died really young) and through him, I learned to give people the benefit of the doubt. I just want the right person arrested instead of just any person. Soon I hope, because I have become obsessed.

It's ok Teresa. We all get snippy at times.

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:58 AM

OOPS! Slow on the Trigger! and please always excuse my typos/spelling-hunt and peck/no spell check! How do you get spell check and use it as u type? Anyone?:rolleyes:

Download google's toolbar. It has a great spell check. You wouldn't believe my errors before I check it!

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 03:59 AM

HIGHLIGHTS: of the tape with COBRA I think if this is true why in the world would he put this out there the last one got me when he ask Ron why he married misty he replied that “she is the only tie he has to Haleigh and that he will keep her until Haleigh returns. :sneaky:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Ron and Misty initially were both onboard.

Misty got cold feet, but was urged at vigil for Haleigh by others there to do it.

They were about to get the re-enactment underway when Misty balked again.

Misty said she didn’t remember things –didn’t want to do it at all and got angry

Ron got angry at Misty---talked about it with Cobra at Memaw's over some sweet tea.

Cobra told Ron about "Greg"—a young African American male with whom Misty was rumored to have been having sex

Cobra said Ron confirmed that he knew all about "Greg"

Cobra asked Ron why he married Misty anyway

Ron replied that “she is the only tie he has to Haleigh and that he will keep her until Haleigh returns”

teresa

03-21-2009, 03:59 AM

It's ok Teresa. We all get snippy at times.

I know but I still feel bad. I think we're all getting frustrated with the lack of information.

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 04:03 AM

Download google's toolbar. It has a great spell check. You wouldn't believe my errors before I check it!

teresa it works on spell check for the board I never knew that. I need to download it then thanks alot

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 04:12 AM

It's ok Teresa. We all get snippy at times.

I agree I have and felt so bad so I just shut the computer down for the night but hey my kids thank all of you cause I dont get cranky to them I take it out on some of you..:tonguewag:lol..just kiding. we all are human I will say I have got off in tears before cause I have a soft heart and when someone attacks you like your stupid or if you have a typo they make you feel dumb that is what bothers me but I am getting used to it and I try my hardest to be kind to everyone most of our post are opinions and we all have one.

We all here for 1 reason and it is Haleigh and praying for her safe return and when we get no info it is very hard. jmo

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 04:19 AM

Why would it be necessary to include, as part of the "HIGHLIGHTS" that Cobra describes, that a rumored sex partner of Misty's is an "African American" male?

Would it make any difference to the disappearance and finding of Haleigh if this alleged sex partner was white or Asian?

You know I thought the same but then started thinking about what crystal said JR told her may not mean anything but sure caught me off guard at first then I went back to crystal saying jr said a black man not a man in black but like you I see NO reason for him to say that. You think he was trying to tell RC things to get him to turn on misty? I just do not get it either Sanity. jmo

aproudmom

03-21-2009, 04:21 AM

rosieposett

03-21-2009, 04:23 AM

teresa it works on spell check for the board I never knew that. I need to download it then thanks alot

I just downloaded it. Haven't tried it out yet but will next time I start up my computer. Wish it could help with my memory loss. Not computers memory loss but MINE. I swear I forget things so easily. The kids are always reminding me it's time for lunch money again. :rolleyes:

teresa

03-21-2009, 04:28 AM

I know that. What I am saying is once he lawyered up he quit talking. This Cobra fellow knew the well of info he would get from Ron had done dried up. With it went any chance he could use Ron to presure Misty into cooperating with a walk through, interview or anything.

I see. Probably very true. Ron doesn't seem to take advice well so we'll see if his attorneys keep him quiet. I don't think he'll talk to the media but I'm sure they'll have him in constant contact with LE.

I wonder if this new spokesperson will be a little more leak-prone? I hope reporters ask for a comment on the Cobra thing so we can see what they say.

I just went to the kitchen to get some water and straighten up a little. While doing that I was thinking about Haleigh and what will happen if we never know. Like with Caylee, Laci P, and Natalie H, I knew they were gone as soon as they went missing. I just can't get rid of this hope for Haleigh and I cannot imagine for one minute being in the shoes of all those who loved her. However dysfunctional both families are, I know they love her so much.