Thursday March 19, 2009 [Archive] - Page 3

Motomom

03-19-2009, 05:36 PM

well it's good IMO because there was no signs of a dead Haleigh. I honestly think someone kidnapped her. It's really a sad sad case.

I agree with you Angel. I also think someone came in and kidnapped her. I'm not set in stone that Misty doesn't know who though. I don't think Misty killed her because I think we'd have heard evidence of it and I think they would have found her already. I am curious about the van and wish LE would share something with us. I have thought all along that Haleigh was still alive.. I'm not so sure now, time is marching on. I fear Crystal and Ron may never hear her giggling again.

CANDYKISSES

03-19-2009, 05:38 PM

Lots of women with kids don't have a job but usually try to take their kids with them when leaving an allegedly abuser.

No one in Crystals family has a drivers license or car????
jmo

I wonder who owned the car Crystal falsely reported as stolen and exactly when it was? :unsure: JMO

doctor_J

03-19-2009, 05:38 PM

Bottom line, Ron had a job, Crystal didn't. Follow the almighty dollar. JMO.

ETA: And Crystal didn't have a drivers license so how was she supposed to take the kids to the doctor? You think Ron would have come and gotten them. Me thinks not.

That's the lamest excuse Crystal has given yet. Even with a 10th grade education, she could get her DL. It only takes a simple test and a basic driving test. She could have gotten it the first month after leaving Ron IF (and I don't believe it for a minute) kept her from getting it sooner. She had a whole clan of family to take her to get it. Shows more irresponsibility.
I got one at 14. So did my son. That was part of her responsibility as a mother.

Were are the "beaten to a bloody pulp" pics? The one on the Bald site. BMAB! This attorney and Crystal's credibility is shot.

Her lies and oppurtunism in the face of a missing child have caused me to have suspicion of her possible involvement that I didn't have before.

Riverwalk!

03-19-2009, 05:38 PM

Lots of women with kids don't have a job but usually try to take their kids with them when leaving an allegedly abuser.

No one in Crystals family has a drivers license or car????
jmo

Crystal didn't like driving with Ron's grandmother. She'd doze off and run them into the bar ditch. LOL. It's not funny, but I just don't see Mrs. Sykes as THAT old, but that's JMO.

crymeariver2006

03-19-2009, 05:39 PM

Um....that's why I said "reporters suck lol".

Except that the reporters never said it was Lisa's van. You did.

First it was Chelsea's van now it's Lisa's? Reporters suck lol

Peaches

03-19-2009, 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=emdragon;12910561]I don't have a DL either and yet I manage to get my daughter where she needs to be.

How about all those times she said she just didn't want to get up and go? If Crystal were telling the truth that Ron didn't have anything to do with the kids who was watching them when Crystal didn't want to get up?

************************************

Crystal also said that she did not want his gm taking her to the doctor because of her driving...............in the court documents.

As are the statements about not wanting to get out of bed........before a judge.............so it will come into evidence because the doctor said he would testify.

Also, the judge offered Crystal 10 days to get her evidence/witnesses together and she said NO>

moo

doctor_J

03-19-2009, 05:41 PM

she had no drivers license and yet she moved two hours away and couldn't take them to the doctor...did she really think Ronald should take off work...drive TWO HOURS take them to the dr and then drive TWO HOURS back to work?

So did she drive to pick them up every two weeks?
Fact is, she told the judge the REASON she didn't take them to the DR. was because she was too lazy to get out of bed.

Texas48

03-19-2009, 05:44 PM

Who would marry their step brother???????? I believe crystal
is taking the focus off little Haleigh. What kind of Mother walks away from their kids? I'm sick of hearing from her, she is a proven liar.
That's a FACT!With respect..how does anything that any of these ppl do hinder or stop LE/FBI from investigating or searching for Haleigh? I just don't believe is putting Chad being Crystal's stepbrother and marriage on the "to do" list as far as this investigation. WE are the ones agreeing or disagreeing and discussing and nit picking and even this doesn"t take the Focus OFF Haleigh..JMO

doctor_J

03-19-2009, 05:46 PM

Talking about lack of credibility--Crystal said she gave up drugs, only used drugs because Ron gave them to her, wah wah wah. BUT-2 days agao we saw pics of the "Mary Jane Party" she had on her 23rd birthday in April 08. It was High Times for all. Marijuana decorations everywhere, BIG picture of a marijuana leaf on the wall. This was not under Ron's watch. This was 11 months ago.

BTW, How old is Chloe? Was she pregnant with that child on her 23rd birthday?

Politigal

03-19-2009, 05:46 PM

On the topic of the van that was released back to the family....

It's interesting IMO that police said no evidence was found *on* the van....maybe none was *on* the van but what about *inside*??

IlliniFan

03-19-2009, 05:48 PM

crymeariver2006

03-19-2009, 05:51 PM

Um.... I ASKED it (that's what question marks are for, in case you didn't know that already).

Nice try.

:sneaky:

Riverwalk!

03-19-2009, 05:51 PM

Texas48

03-19-2009, 05:51 PM

Bottom line, Ron had a job, Crystal didn't. Follow the almighty dollar. JMO.

ETA: And Crystal didn't have a drivers license so how was she supposed to take the kids to the doctor? You think Ron would have come and gotten them. Me thinks not.
Ahhhh..so good to see your name and your post. I believe Crystal stated in an interview the same..Ron had a job and could provide health ins. for the kids...she could not. I also believe Crystal was under the impression Ron and children were going to be living with TN so she had no reason to worry and that the children would be safe. Perhaps..just perhaps Crystal thought this was the BEST for their children AT THE TIME....Things change and ppl change..Now Haleigh has vanished..Crystal has been told things that have given her cause to be concerned...Possibly Crystal thought of the children FIRST. jmo

Texas48

03-19-2009, 05:57 PM

Apparently they do. Everything Ron does seems to be okay for some. They don't want it investigated and have already made up their minds that CS is lying.

No wonder battered women don't speak out as often as they should. Look what kind of responses they get.

It's frightening, imo.ITA...this is the exact reason will NOT report abuse.....and here I thought we had come a long ways out of the dark ages. jmo

doctor_J

03-19-2009, 05:57 PM

I guess I didn't see those pictures...Isn't Chloe 10 or 11 months old??

I don't know the baby's age but if over 2 months Crystal was pregnant when she threw herself a "Mary Jane Party". The pics were posted on the evening of the 16th or 17th on this thread. Quite enlightening. I think it was Riverwalk who posted them, may she forgive me if I'm mistaken. Now why would a pregnant woman have adrug themed birthday party, or even a mother of 3?

That was the moment I knew I could not believe any of Crystal's allegations. Maybe her ambulance chaser should have research her client.

Texas48

03-19-2009, 06:00 PM

I do. If anyone from Crystals side had taken Haleigh to the dr.s or hospital, then there would be legal documentation. Thus, counter acting the pix she is putting out there now for abuse from RC.
Hope I said that right.
jmoSay again????? lol doneit..only kidding. you said it or at least I understood it..thats not saying much though.lol

Riverwalk!

03-19-2009, 06:01 PM

I don't know the baby's age but if over 2 months Crystal was pregnant when she threw herself a "Mary Jane Party". The pics were posted on the evening of the 16th or 17th on this thread. Quite enlightening. I think it was Riverwalk who posted them, may she forgive me if I'm mistaken. Now why would a pregnant woman have adrug themed birthday party, or even a mother of 3?

That was the moment I knew I could not believe any of Crystal's allegations. Maybe her ambulance chaser should have research her client.

lol. Wasn't me, but here's the posts
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=350540&page=28

Crystal smokes too. :scared:

Texas48

03-19-2009, 06:02 PM

Ditto. That and helping her lie and slander on national television.So now we know for a FACT that it was slander?

Texas48

03-19-2009, 06:04 PM

I agree with you. I think she's doing that now so she doesn't have to pay child support. She never paid before though. Wasn't she to be in court the day after haleigh was gone for back child support?NOTHING will help with NOT paying the back support. It was court ordered and Crystal will have to pay..no matter what. jmo

KKKKKKatie

03-19-2009, 06:06 PM

yeah for all we know those bruises could have happen at her house

You don't think Ron would have reported her if that were the case?

Mimi428

03-19-2009, 06:06 PM

If she was backhanded across the face (which is what I believe the accusation is but I may be wrong ) she would not have fallen ON HER FACE IMO. So what would be the point of backhanding her in the back of the head. It would hurt HIS hand more than her IMO. So why would he do that if his intent was to HURT her?

<snipped>

You are leaving out the force that he could apply to her by backhanding her across the face. You are leaving out the size disparity between them.

YES, absolutely YES could she have fallen on her face if she had been backhanded across the face.

It could have knocked her back against something & then she bounced forward, in a ricocheting motion.

It could have spun her around & she then fell forward.

There are numerous ways a backhand across the face could result in a fall forward. As little as Haleigh weighed she could have been bounced all over & hit no telling what as she went sailing through the air.

JMO

teresa

03-19-2009, 06:10 PM

Yeppppppppp IMO she probably never stopped drugs. I wonder if her, Ronald, Misty and Chad have taken a drug test.

Was the date of her fiance's cocaine arrest 2007?

?noanswer

03-19-2009, 06:12 PM

Yes + 9 more arrests (battery, assault, assault with deadly weapons)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO
2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-31 2 INFORMATION (CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING)
2004-09-14 3 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14 4 ARREST REPORT - CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING -
2004-10-14 4 BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14 5 $1004.00 A-1 BAIL BONDS II - #2004-AA-77111
2004-10-14 6 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2004-10-14 7 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (11-10-2004)
2004-10-18 8 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2004-11-10 9 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT (BILL BOOKHAMMER)
2004-11-10 9 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 12/14/2004
2004-11-10 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2004-11-10 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2004-11-10 12 ORDER FOR PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE
2004-11-16 13 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12-14-2004)
2004-12-14 14 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2004-12-14 14 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2004-12-14 14 CONTINUED TO 01/18/2005 AT 1:30 PM
2004-12-17 15 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-18-2005)
2005-01-18 16 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-18 16 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2005-01-18 16 SET FOR PLEA DAY 01/20/2005
2005-01-20 17 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-20 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CRUELTY TO
2005-01-20 17 ANIMALS
2005-01-20 17 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE
2005-01-20 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING - DEFENDANT
2005-01-20 17 ADJUDGED GUILTY, ORDERED TO PAY $241.50 COURT COST, $250
2005-01-20 17 COST OF PROSECUTION AND $40 PUBLIC DEFENDER APP FEE,
2005-01-20 17 COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN, SENTENCED TO 1 DAY PCJ
2005-01-20 17 WITH 1 DAY CREDIT
2005-02-03 18 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT MIN CIR CT BK PG
2005-02-04 19 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
2005-02-22 20 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE
2005-02-22 20 RECORDED OR BK 1017 PG 753
2005-09-23 21 NOTICE OF HEARING RETURNED UNEXECUTED
2005-09-23 21 DEFT NOT IN JAIL
2005-09-23 22 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
2005-09-23 22 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-26 23 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2005-09-26 23 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-29 24 MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY
2005-09-30 25 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES - COURT HEARD
2005-09-30 25 DEFENSE MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY - GRANTED -
2005-09-30 25 SONY CAMCORDER SERIAL #1528521 RET'D TO DEFT

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Sheffield, Johnny Marcus

I was going to ask why he is former sheriff >>>>. I think I have figured out the answer.

Also in all those pictures of someone's arm?/leg?, how can the identity of the person those limbs belong to be established? JMO

Motomom

03-19-2009, 06:13 PM

<snipped>

You are leaving out the force that he could apply to her by backhanding her across the face. You are leaving out the size disparity between them.

YES, absolutely YES could she have fallen on her face if she had been backhanded across the face.

It could have knocked her back against something & then she bounced forward, in a ricocheting motion.

It could have spun her around & she then fell forward.

There are numerous ways a backhand across the face could result in a fall forward. As little as Haleigh weighed she could have been bounced all over & hit no telling what as she went sailing through the air.

JMO

Ok, I'll take your explanation of the force, causing her to spin around, fall on her face, bounce back off of the wall, falling on her face.. That would be alot of force, a very angry man.

Now.. does it make sense to you that he did this in front of his Ex's family?????

Riverwalk!

03-19-2009, 06:17 PM

NOTHING will help with NOT paying the back support. It was court ordered and Crystal will have to pay..no matter what. jmo

How? No job = no $ to pay back child support. Her dad did have to go to jail for not paying Marie over $10K, but then one child ended up not being his and it got reduced and then she married the Griffis guy, etc. This whole thing went on from 1994-2003. What a mess.

CANDYKISSES

03-19-2009, 06:17 PM

Birth Announcement:
http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1375&Itemid=79

Chloe is a doll baby and I have a feeling just like Haleigh is the heart in Ron, Chloe is the heart in Crystal. JMO tho after viewing some of the original albums etc...:unsure:

DOES ANYONE remember when Crystal was talking to the Magistrate in the early hearings and the car was brought up where she claimed Ron insisted on parking behind her car?

I remember a smart remark she made about THAT WAS ONLY WHAT SHE WAS TELLING HIM, with him being RON.

I was trying to piece that back together and for some reason your original document isn't downloading for me River. It's on my end, not yours. :rolleyes::cursing:

?noanswer

03-19-2009, 06:17 PM

A little off topic, but I just thought about something.

If this has been discussed already I do apologize.

All the screen/storm doors I have ever seen have a little screw like thing that you slide across to keep the door OPEN.

Ok, to me ...whoever used that screen/storm door to take Haleigh had to know that little screw ( I don't know the correct word for it), but the little screw that slides to hold the door open...must have been broken. That is why a block had to be used.

If it was a stranger, they would have just slid the screw over to hold the screen/storm door open ...right?

I know what I am trying to say...I hope someone can understand it.

I have wondered if LE took the door to see if there were fingerprints where someone tried to use that device to keep the door open. Since that device is at the top of the door there is a possibility that noone else touched it before LE took it. If it was broken, then that is why they used a block to prop it open. JMO

teresa

03-19-2009, 06:19 PM

You don't think Ron would have reported her if that were the case?

I think he would have. I just don't think the scratch adds up to being hit with a fist or whatever. It looks exactly my crash into the concrete wall. If it was only bruises, it would look more incriminating to me.

Either way, with a doctor visit, we'll know eventually if this is the same incident.

Mimi428

03-19-2009, 06:22 PM

Why hasn't Crystal's cousin been interviewed by anyone and verified this claim? I'm sure her buddy Geraldo could have softballed some questions to that cousin.

I have no idea who has been interviewed by whom. No idea about what subjects came up in any interview by any person.

The wording of your question asserts her cousin has NOT been interviewed. Why do you think that? How could you know one way or another?

JMO

CANDYKISSES

03-19-2009, 06:22 PM

All this time we've heard how TN's position as a dispatcher helped enable Ron to become the town bada$$ that has everyone cowering in fear but it seems Crystal's dad is a bigger bada$$. We're supposed to believe a crooked cop(former?) was scared of Ron???

EX MARINE....oh yeah okay, SKEERED of SCRAWNY RON....please it's ludicrous the silly stories they try to pedal on RC. :blush: I am embarrassed for this lot. Now Kim is saying "some pics Crystal believes...."

Yeah okay...maybe she should have given those children the same consideration she took for herself IMO if any of these allegations are true.

What a shame to try and put him on trial NOW for her poor choices in the past....that dog doesn't hunt here. The woman needs to accept responsibility for her part in this story and stop trying to portray herself as an innocent, cuz it just ain't so IMO. :thumbdown:

?noanswer

03-19-2009, 06:23 PM

so it does belong to the SIL afterall. According to this article anyway!

That's what so confusing. In the video the SIL is saying that Misty called her asking if the SIL put scratches on her (Misty's) van. If not for the actual words spoken by the SIL, then I would say the reporter got the information wrong. Now I can't figure it out. JMO

MrLucky917B

03-19-2009, 06:24 PM

New thread open

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12910713&posted=1#post12910713

CANDYKISSES

03-19-2009, 06:24 PM

I seem to remember reading something like that.

I am starting to remember it as an ADDRESS she had lied about regarding some notice IIRC. Hopefully my PC will stop acting so CRANKY and let me download the pdf files again later tonight. :cursing:

Riverwalk!

03-19-2009, 06:27 PM

I read the original post and find that interesting. If the slide that holds the spring to keep the door open was broken, then how would the intruder know that it was broken and needed to hold the door open with a brick/cement block. He would have been familiar with the door. If this is a fact. gogo

Here's the video from NG show. The top of the door is not shown, but it does slam. So...........

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/03/06/ng.haleigh.home.cnn

Mimi428

03-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Ok, I'll take your explanation of the force, causing her to spin around, fall on her face, bounce back off of the wall, falling on her face.. That would be alot of force, a very angry man.

Now.. does it make sense to you that he did this in front of his Ex's family?????

I don't think it would take a whole lot of force. I have seen an adult at least 2 feet taller than Haleigh & at least 100 lbs heavier get backhanded by another adult & it spun her around like a top. One shoulder hit the wall, she bounced back & her hip hit a table & when she ricocheted off that her entire body went right over the edge of the deck.

As for whether Ron would do that in front of Crystal's family, I do not know. I have known of some cases where it seemed as if the abuser got a great deal of satisfaction in doing stuff in front of other loved ones, knowing it caused them torment. I've known of others where the abuser was careful to not have an audience. So, who can say? I think either is in the realm of possibility, I have no idea of the probability of either one specifically.

JMO

?noanswer

03-19-2009, 06:32 PM

True here Peaches. I just spoke to my brother and he and my SIL are both school teachers. He stated they have to report direct to DCF and it's a requirement now. It used to be you could notify the counselor or your principal and let them have the final word, but not anymore. IT IS your responsibility to REPORT if you see or hear anything indicating a possibility of abuse. JMO :sad:

This is looking more and more shady hour by hour IMO.

If that is true, then if she had shown up at school with those injuries, then the school should have reported it. Also if the ER thought it was abuse, then they would have reported it too. JMO

forensicfan

03-19-2009, 06:33 PM

Crystal's mother said on NG herself that the picture that was taken that she claims Haleigh is "beat to a pulp", the school nurse told her that she had fallen in school. It was Crystal's mother that doesn't believe that. She said she didn't believe the scrapes were from concrete. Why she doesn't believe the school nurse, I do not know.

I'm wondering if the school nurse was shown the picture and asked if the injuries in the picture coincide with what she saw that day.

If I remember correctly, when the case first came on the news, Crystal said she thought Misty was "a responsible person". I'll have to try to find the link to that.

?noanswer

03-19-2009, 06:36 PM

That's the lamest excuse Crystal has given yet. Even with a 10th grade education, she could get her DL. It only takes a simple test and a basic driving test. She could have gotten it the first month after leaving Ron IF (and I don't believe it for a minute) kept her from getting it sooner. She had a whole clan of family to take her to get it. Shows more irresponsibility.
I got one at 14. So did my son. That was part of her responsibility as a mother.

Were are the "beaten to a bloody pulp" pics? The one on the Bald site. BMAB! This attorney and Crystal's credibility is shot.

Her lies and oppurtunism in the face of a missing child have caused me to have suspicion of her possible involvement that I didn't have before.

Don't leave out GR. He was waving that picture and saying she was beaten to a pulp!!! JMO

FoxySly

03-19-2009, 06:38 PM

Show me ONE post that claims what I bolded? I have YET to read a post from anyone that does not want him investigated.. We didn't have much to do about making up our minds about CS lying, that was proven last night on NG.. now it's just a matter of what else she may be lieing about IMO

Ahh she can't because you have not done so.

IMO it's women like crystal that make it real hard on & for the REAL WOMEN WHO ARE REALLY BATTERED, she was caught in many, many lies last night on NG, she has no creditability with me just like she had no creditability in court. It's IMO easy to see why.

Sly

~

teresa

03-19-2009, 06:42 PM

Chloe is a doll baby and I have a feeling just like Haleigh is the heart in Ron, Chloe is the heart in Crystal. JMO tho after viewing some of the original albums etc...:unsure:

DOES ANYONE remember when Crystal was talking to the Magistrate in the early hearings and the car was brought up where she claimed Ron insisted on parking behind her car?

I remember a smart remark she made about THAT WAS ONLY WHAT SHE WAS TELLING HIM, with him being RON.

I was trying to piece that back together and for some reason your original document isn't downloading for me River. It's on my end, not yours. :rolleyes::cursing:

So there were two cars? I thought she said she didn't drive and had no license??

CANDYKISSES

03-19-2009, 06:46 PM

If that is true, then if she had shown up at school with those injuries, then the school should have reported it. Also if the ER thought it was abuse, then they would have reported it too. JMO

Yes, and I have seen a hospital and ER doctor taken to trial over failure to recognize....JMOOC. :sad:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:IYk1qhZrdfAJ:www.bookrags.com/highbeam/medical-malpractice-suit-goes-to-jury-hb/+sprague+civista&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

sydney

03-19-2009, 06:55 PM

FrankieBones1

03-19-2009, 06:58 PM

Frankie, I just watched that part again, and if you get a chance look at it on HLN. You will see Crystal look down as KP puts that one out there....JMO, but it is sheer BS from what I've seen. She liked and likes to party as much as anyone else in this tragedy.<<snipped for length only>> JMO tho.
I watched Crystal closely. She was rarely in agreement with what the lawyer was saying. Body language is everything.

sydney

03-19-2009, 07:00 PM

Possibly Crystal thought of the children FIRST. jmo

<snipped for space>

if that were the case, why haven't i heard her even mention haleigh in the last interview instead of having her attorney say what a bad guy ron is?

aproudmom

03-19-2009, 07:02 PM

RC got a lawyer it is about time.

baywench

03-19-2009, 07:04 PM

I watched Crystal closely. She was rarely in agreement with what the lawyer was saying. Body language is everything.

ITA did ya'll see the lawyer reach out and either smack at Crystal's hand or pat it to get her to stop saying something? Crystal's face looked annoyed. This lawyer is something else....I feel terrible for the women that are truly abused. I don't believe Crystal is one of them. When you are with an abusive man the last thing in the world you would do is leave your young children with him imo (but an opinion based on experience). jmo

sydney

03-19-2009, 07:09 PM

OMG she doesn't know yet if Crystal will go to court and get custody.......she said FIRST she wants an investigation and IF the state feels like they are in danger then they MIGHT bark up that tree of getting custody...

Does anyone else think thats ODD?

yes. seems to me she's changed her tune a bit. as i said, if she was so convinced jr was really in danger and had all this alleged "proof", why not file an emergency motion to transfer custody?

aproudmom

03-19-2009, 07:12 PM

someone help me here - crystal said she didn't get her license until she was 20 because ron wouldn't LET her. still wondering exactly what that means.......

how long were those two together? what i mean is, if she turned 20 AFTER she left/split with ron, what was the reason she didn't get her license?

i recall someone saying that if you don't pay support, florida takes your dl away. is that correct? if that is correct, shouldn't crystal NOT have a license now, either?

tia for the help

HI Sydney
I think they were saying he controlled her and did not allow her to get her drivers lic. she left when JR was 6 months old I am not saying she is telling the truth but I was in a 6 yr relationship and he had me so brainwashed I thought it was all my fault so I can not tell if she was so afraid of him to tell you the truth I still to this day shake in fear if I see him and it took me finding out I was preg at 18 because I was not allowed to take BC when I lived with him so I went into hiding for a year that was 19yrs ago. I do not see fear in her but maybe she is no longer afraid on him JMO

IMO you should never lose your lic for child support what good does that do they need to be able to get out and work and pay support but I do think in some states they do that.

kitty1182

03-19-2009, 07:13 PM

leaving in the morning to go see my brother......
I pray this child is found soon....
Ya'll play pretty, see you Monday......
:seeya:

legalmania

03-19-2009, 08:29 PM

I watched Crystal closely. She was rarely in agreement with what the lawyer was saying. Body language is everything.

Where were you the other night when I was fighting with a poster about the same thing? The attorney is going to need an attorney.

bkwits

03-19-2009, 08:33 PM

This whole subject, being discussed primarily by women, it seems, is throwing me for a loop! Did you mean to say REAL WOMEN WHO ARE REALLY BATTERED? To now be believed Cyrstal should have thought to have pictures taken when she was hurt. I would guess that only a small percentage of women think about having photos taken of their injuries.

What happens on a TV show and what happens in a courtroom are snapshots of a person's life. Why are people on this board dissecting a woman they do not know, and why are injuries to children being down-played?

I am wondering what kind of a society we have created?

Responding to "Sly's" post, but actually addressing almost everyone here who finds it necessary to tear apart a human being, to decide what bruises are ok for children to have, and to defend a man who publicly threatened murder.

I for one have thoughts about what happened to Haleigh, and though I don't believe Ron Cummings, to say he has zero credibility is not something I can claim. Why are we behaving like a pack hungry wolves?

I was reading here for over a month before signing up. Maybe like others here something about this whole story struck a deep cord. This whole forum idea is new to me, but when I saw so many kind and thoughtful souls, I overcame my hesitation and joined. How in the world can so many mothers and grandmothers here defend a man who doesn't even attempt to hide his violent and anti-social tendencies? I guess I better say that this is just my opinion.

Well, I am a mother and a grandmother and a very peace loving woman. However, if someone kidnapped my small child or grandchild I would feel at a certain moment like killing that person.

I don't know what kind of person Ron is. I just know that he is not very likeable. That being said, at this point, I don't think he has had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. I could change my mind, but that is the way it seems to me. I always support battered women and children. However, in this case, I am suspicious of Crystal and her motives. The important thing is to find Haleigh and get her home. This abuse allegation is a distraction. The other child, the boy, is with his grandmother and greatf-grandmother, so I believe he is being well cared for and is not in danger. This custody and abuse allegations can be settled when we find out what happened to Haleigh. IMO.

BTW, Haleigh appears to e very fair complexted. My granddaughter is a redhead and very fair. When she was small, she was a real tomboy and a climber. She had so many bruises that I used to pray that I never would have to take her to an emergency room or clinic. My DIL started putting long pants on her because her legs were so bruised. Believe me, no one was hurting her. She would climb and fall and any little bump caused a bruise.

cloe23

03-19-2009, 08:36 PM

My deepest apologizes for coming back, I admit I am hooked.
Has anyone considered that due to Haleigh's medical DX that she is anemic? Sure would explain to me obsessive/unexplained bruising.
JMO

cloe23

03-19-2009, 08:42 PM

leaving in the morning to go see my brother......
I pray this child is found soon....
Ya'll play pretty, see you Monday......
:seeya:

Have a great trip, hope your brother is well! Haleigh will be found. JMO

cloe23

03-19-2009, 08:50 PM

Alrighty then, good night.

kkmiausa

03-19-2009, 09:02 PM

It doesn't matter. It's just one more way to throw slurs at Crystal.

Ron marries a minor in a quickie marriage that couldn't even wait the two weeks his pastor required for pre-marital counseling, has said minor watching his children and living with him as soon as he started "dating" her, she's the last one to see Haleigh (supposedly) and can't tell the same story twice and police are openly questioning her statements about the night Haleigh disappeared....

But noooooooooo, that's not important......

Crystal's engaged to her step brother!

Stop the presses!

I read that she and her boyfriend Chad introduced their parents and they married, then making Chad her step brother. Nothing incestuous about it. Please get the facts straight. It isn't like they were children who grew up together.

jewel6

03-19-2009, 09:33 PM

I don't believe 1 word that comes out of Crystal BSheffield's mouth. I do not believe Ron ever abused the kids, nor Misty. Crystal comes off (to me) as a phony and wants revenge because she didn't win. My hinky meter goes off the charts when she talks. Bet they( Ron's family) has 100's of pics that the kids don't have bruises or scratched. My grandaughter( age 3) is learning to ride her bike, she fell over, should could have gottena bruise from , but didn't. Bruises and scratches don't prove abuse. C BSheffield needs to worry where Haleigh is, not phony abuse claims. JMO

welcome!! ITA!

Deb7

03-19-2009, 09:47 PM

Does anyone here happen to know if Haleigh had a full day of school or if she went for a half day like many kindergarten students do?

TIA

Leather&Lace

03-19-2009, 10:15 PM

That's the lamest excuse Crystal has given yet. Even with a 10th grade education, she could get her DL. It only takes a simple test and a basic driving test. She could have gotten it the first month after leaving Ron IF (and I don't believe it for a minute) kept her from getting it sooner. She had a whole clan of family to take her to get it. Shows more irresponsibility.
I got one at 14. So did my son. That was part of her responsibility as a mother.

Were are the "beaten to a bloody pulp" pics? The one on the Bald site. BMAB! This attorney and Crystal's credibility is shot.

Her lies and oppurtunism in the face of a missing child have caused me to have suspicion of her possible involvement that I didn't have before.

Just signed on and read your post. Right on!!

After this latest from Crystal Sheffield, I would not put anything past her! Disgusting, no, beyond disgusting IMO.

Leather&Lace

03-19-2009, 10:17 PM

EX MARINE....oh yeah okay, SKEERED of SCRAWNY RON....please it's ludicrous the silly stories they try to pedal on RC. :blush: I am embarrassed for this lot. Now Kim is saying "some pics Crystal believes...."

Yeah okay...maybe she should have given those children the same consideration she took for herself IMO if any of these allegations are true.

What a shame to try and put him on trial NOW for her poor choices in the past....that dog doesn't hunt here. The woman needs to accept responsibility for her part in this story and stop trying to portray herself as an innocent, cuz it just ain't so IMO. :thumbdown:

:thumbsup:

DITTO ITA

day2day

03-19-2009, 10:31 PM

Don't leave out GR. He was waving that picture and saying she was beaten to a pulp!!! JMO

Yep-IMHO he started ALOT of this! I think this is terrrible that instead of searching for Haleigh -we seem to have fallin into a terrible child custody battle. Very very sad..imo!

Tia

03-19-2009, 10:37 PM

Yep-IMHO he started ALOT of this! I think this is terrrible that instead of searching for Haleigh -we seem to have fallin into a terrible child custody battle. Very very sad..imo!

Very sad. I am watching the "second showing" of NG.

Poor Haleigh.

day2day

03-19-2009, 10:43 PM

Very sad. I am watching the "second showing" of NG.

Poor Haleigh.

Hi Tia-
Yea -it really is heartbreaking!! My heart breaks for Haleigh...

Tia

03-19-2009, 10:52 PM

Hi Tia-
Yea -it really is heartbreaking!! My heart breaks for Haleigh...

Who is paying for Crystal's lawyer?

Deb7

03-19-2009, 11:30 PM

I have never heard of kindergarteners having half days. At least not in my county, Im in Florida.

Thanks sam1986. I am originally from the NE and kids there went to kindergarten for a half day. Where I live now ME the kids also go for a half day as well. I do know that some schools do the whole day thing now, but I was really curious.

Thank you.

Deb7

03-19-2009, 11:36 PM

Lots of kindergartners have half days, but I'm not sure how this is relevant in her case.

She arrived home in the afternoon, say 2:45, and her dad picked her up.

After that, a Great grandmother, and an uncle and two cousins saw her in the home.

I'm not sure why it's relevant if she had half or full days. She was at school that day, and came home, and was seen by unimpeachable witnesses after that.

Rachel, I was thinking beyond that. Sorry, it had to do with her absences, which while the number would stay the same, technically for a half day kindergartener to miss that much school is extreme IMO. If you were there for a full day 5 days a week you have much more time to learn things. If you are there for a half day 5 days a week, you clearly have less time to learn things. Makes sense right?

ALSO, if it was a half day and she got out at 2:45 that would mean she went to school at what time? Most likely noonish. I just noticed a lot of tardies on there and if she is a half timer, I think getting your child to school on time wouldn't be so terribly difficult.
But then again, that is JMO.

Besides someone from FL already said they think FL is a full time kindergarten state. I have no idea, that is why I asked.

Anyway, it was just something to think about. And JMO.