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n/t
03-16-2009, 08:35 PM
Hi all,

Please let's keep this forum open for Haleigh's sake. Let's remember that we're all here for the same purpose and that's to find out what happened to this little girl.

Nancy Grace will be up at 8 pm Eastern and she will be interviewing Ron. I'd like to watch and discuss it with you all.

Thanks!

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for starting this and I agree with you.

The fact is, we all have differing opinions. No one persons is better than anyone else's. We may never all agree but that's just fine. We are all different and I wouldn't expect us all to agree all the time. But, I do think we can at least be civil to one another. I'd hate to see anyone stop posting, leave, go back to lurking or get banned. JMO

Hi all,

Please let's keep this forum open for Haleigh's sake. Let's remember that we're all here for the same purpose and that's to find out what happened to this little girl.

Nancy Grace will be up at 8 pm Eastern and she will be interviewing Ron. I'd like to watch and discuss it with you all.

Thanks!

n/t
03-16-2009, 08:42 PM
I'm really looking forward to this inteview. Hopefully it will shed some light on what may have happened on that fateful night.

Will Misty be with him? I haven't heard whether or not she was going to be there. They keep mentioning Ron but not Misty.

n/t
03-16-2009, 08:46 PM
Thanks for starting this and I agree with you.

The fact is, we all have differing opinions. No one persons is better than anyone else's. We may never all agree but that's just fine. We are all different and I wouldn't expect us all to agree all the time. But, I do think we can at least be civil to one another. I'd hate to see anyone stop posting, leave, go back to lurking or get banned. JMO


Exactly and that's what's great about this board. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. I may not necessarily agree but there's always the option to agree to disagree and move on.


Any word on what that clue may be that was found on Florida Highway? Nothing was mentioned on HLN. I was hoping they would say what it might be.

kitty1182
03-16-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm gonna get a glass of vino and relax to watch NG...
I want to see how Ron reacts to questions tonight.....
See you all after while!!

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 08:48 PM
No clue. In fact, I hadn't heard about a clue/finding on a highway until I read this forum today.

Exactly and that's what's great about this board. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. I may not necessarily agree but there's always the option to agree to disagree and move on.

Any word on what that clue may be that was found on Florida Highway? Nothing was mentioned on HLN. I was hoping they would say what it might be.

n/t
03-16-2009, 08:53 PM
I'm gonna get a glass of vino and relax to watch NG...
I want to see how Ron reacts to questions tonight.....
See you all after while!!

I hope Nancy will ask the hard questions. Frankly, I don't want to hear what time Misty put the children to bed or what time Misty went to bed and rehatching of the same 'ole. We know the answers to those questions. 8...10...bathroom....light on....back door open....Haleigh gone.

I want more.

I'd love for her to ask him who was at the house that day? What was Haleigh doing when he last saw her? Was anyone there? Does he think someone took Haleigh out of revenge? Does he feel he knows who has Haleigh? etc etc etc.

I'll be very disappointed if it's the same ole.

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 08:53 PM
I agree. I want more too. Something new. Not the same ol', same ol'.

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm really looking forward to this inteview. Hopefully it will shed some light on what may have happened on that fateful night.

Will Misty be with him? I haven't heard whether or not she was going to be there. They keep mentioning Ron but not Misty.

I think it will be a bust, unless NG starts banging on her desk.

JMO

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 08:55 PM
LOL You may be right. It better not be a bust. I usually watch LPBW on Monday nights and am skipping that to watch NG. :laugh:

I think it will be a bust, unless NG starts banging on her desk.

JMO

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I'm gonna get a glass of vino and relax to watch NG...
I want to see how Ron reacts to questions tonight.....
See you all after while!!

Me too! Starts in 5 min here in Texas. 7 p.m.

BG

n/t
03-16-2009, 08:56 PM
Off to watch....see you all in a bit.

Mimi428
03-16-2009, 08:57 PM
Exactly and that's what's great about this board. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. I may not necessarily agree but there's always the option to agree to disagree and move on.



<snipped>

Adding on to this thought, what I like about opposing viewpoints is that it helps you (if you let it) clarify your own thoughts. Many times one person or another will post about an aspect that I have not even thought about.

JMO

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 08:58 PM
<snipped>

Adding on to this thought, what I like about opposing viewpoints is that it helps you (if you let it) clarify your own thoughts. Many times one person or another will post about an aspect that I have not even thought about.

JMO

Yep, I agree Mimi

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 08:59 PM
I agree. This is so true. That's why I like that we all don't think the same.

<snipped>

Adding on to this thought, what I like about opposing viewpoints is that it helps you (if you let it) clarify your own thoughts. Many times one person or another will post about an aspect that I have not even thought about.

JMO

?noanswer
03-16-2009, 08:59 PM
Brought over from other thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandview http://boards.insessiontrials.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12899224#post12899224)
Let's go to the documents. I hope I did this right.

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16 Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE

Date Docket Description
2005-09-16 001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
2005-09-16 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-16 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-16 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER
2005-09-16 005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER
2005-09-16 006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED
2005-09-16 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005
2005-09-16 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221
2005-09-16 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05
2005-10-18 012. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER
2005-10-18 012. ANSWER FILED BY RESPONDENT
2005-10-26 008. MOTION TO SET HEARING
2005-10-26 009. MOTION FOR DEFAULT
2005-10-27 010. DEFAULT ENTERED
2005-10-27 011.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE
2005-11-01 013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-11-01 014.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-11-01 015. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH
2005-11-01 016.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH
2005-11-01 .PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF
2005-11-01 .FILED BY PETITIONER
2005-11-22 017. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP
2005-11-22 .PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY
2005-12-01 018. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES,
2005-12-01 .C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH
2005-12-01 .FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY
2005-12-01 .RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL
2005-12-01 .FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY
2005-12-01 .WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD
2005-12-01 .VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE
2005-12-01 .CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE
2005-12-01 .VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE
2005-12-01 .STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR
2005-12-01 .FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT
2005-12-05 021.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP
2005-12-05 .PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED
2005-12-05 .PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING
2005-12-05 .PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION
2005-12-05 .ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO
2005-12-05 .PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED
2005-12-05 .BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH
2005-12-05 .CHILDREN
2005-12-05 019. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD
2005-12-05 020.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT
2005-12-06 022. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE:
2005-12-06 .REHEARING
2005-12-08 023. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP.
2005-12-13 024. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS
2005-12-13 .MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
2005-12-13 025. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP -
2005-12-27 026.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS
2005-12-27 RESPONDENT
2005-12-27 027.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
2006-01-03 028.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP
2006-01-06 029. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS
2006-01-06 OF MAGISTRATE
2006-01-20 030.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING
2006-01-20 AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER
2006-01-24 031.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30
2006-01-24 EEH-COURTROOM 305
2006-01-25 032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH
2006-01-31 033.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND
2006-02-28 034.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
2006-03-02 035.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00
2006-03-09 036.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER
2006-03-15 037.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
2006-03-16 038.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION
2006-03-16 CENTER
2006-03-20 039.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2006-03-20 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
2006-03-20 CHILDREN
2006-03-21 040.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
2006-03-22 041.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN
2006-03-22 042.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2006-03-22 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
2006-03-22 CHILDREN
2006-04-04 043.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
2006-04-12 044.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE
2006-08-17 045.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE
2006-08-17 HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH
2006-10-04 046.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT
2006-10-04 RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT
2006-12-28 047.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/017 @ 3:30
2007-01-04 048.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT
2007-01-26 049.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS
2007-01-26 OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH
2007-02-13 050.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR
2007-02-22 051.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM
2007-05-11 052.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH
2007-11-08 053.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE
2007-11-26 FL#200754636011
2008-06-16 054.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08
2009-02-10 055.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30
2009-02-20 056.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL

2008-06-16 054.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08. DOR is Dept. of Revenue (http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/). The sum of $48.00 was intercepted and collected by the State for RC. IMO.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

I'm not an attorney nor have I been through a divorce. (disclaimer)


2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION
2006-03-16 CENTER

Wonder why they subpoenaed this person. Also this case began 9-05 and was not resolved until 11-07. JMO

march27
03-16-2009, 09:00 PM
Please keep me updated on NG. I have no cable. Thanks in advance.

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:01 PM
NG on now. Will hang around!

HumblePie
03-16-2009, 09:02 PM
More wacko "bombshells" from NG. This is going nowhere, fast. :cursing:

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:02 PM
Says Ron isn't afraid to answer questions. Now let's just hope Nancy asks the right ones!

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Sheba from Illinois will ask a loaded question

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:07 PM
Says Ron isn't afraid to answer questions. Now let's just hope Nancy asks the right ones!

We will see and hear.

BG

march27
03-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Just highlights and video clips we have all seen before. (this is for the person who wants play by play)

You guys are the best :thumbsup:

HumblePie
03-16-2009, 09:09 PM
NG has nothing. This is all about ratings. Sick. :thumbdown:

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:11 PM
I think he is truthful.

IlliniFan
03-16-2009, 09:13 PM
Too bad Nancy takes callers..sometimes seems like a waste of time..

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:14 PM
Ms Nancy?????


I think that is a very sweet Southern thing!

Justy
03-16-2009, 09:15 PM
Says Ron isn't afraid to answer questions. Now let's just hope Nancy asks the right ones!



You never will have to worry if NG asks the right questions!

HumblePie
03-16-2009, 09:15 PM
Too bad Nancy takes callers..sometimes seems like a waste of time..

That's the point of her show. 10 minutes of rehashed video tape and the rest, ridiculous phone questions. She's a media ho. :cursing:

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:15 PM
NOT A HoneyMOON??? To NY. Well, I be dipped.

He has nothing to offer. HIS daughter is missing.

Why go to NY. I don't believe a word he says. Sumptin' not right. IMOO

BG

eta: I can watch this again at 9 pm and midnight here.

IMHO

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Ms Nancy?????


Very very common in the south.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Didn't he say they hadn't discussed it?

Yes....makes me go

Hmmmmmmm

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Wonder why Ron is there with his mom and not his wife..And sure doesn't seem like he and Misty discussed much about that nite

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Ronald said he was not sure where people got the idea that she went to the bathroom across the hall (something like that, but this was the jist).

I heard it as he hasn't heard that story yet.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:17 PM
My dinner dishes and messy house can wait right? LOL

I'm not mistaken am I that Ron is back in FL?

He looks much smaller to me here, I think he has lost weight. He's being very polite and I think he has caught on to the opinions out there about him.. miss nancy..

So far he believes misty it seems. Hope we get some more callers with some GOOD questions.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:18 PM
I heard it as he hasn't heard that story yet.


Could be...I will have to listen to the answer again

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:18 PM
Ok, so about the bathroom. Nancy asks why Misty didn't use the one right in the master bedroom. Ron says he never heard that version of the story before. I believe it. Because, in Misty's last interview all she said was that she GOT UP to use the bathroom and noticed the kitchen light on. That does not mean that she went across the house to use the bathroom.

I think that people on the forums assumed she must have used the one across the home and that's how that rumor got started.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Is anyone else watching?
I wonder who told Ron to stare into the camera like that? He's focusing on that camera so hard that he is hardly even blinking. Very weird. IMO


At least his voice is stronger....he seems not as "down" as in the last few interviews IMO

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Come on NG don't broadcast where Jr is at!

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Beacuse he prob got word of how we all complained that he couldn't even look at the camera during his last interview.

Is anyone else watching?
I wonder who told Ron to stare into the camera like that? He's focusing on that camera so hard that he is hardly even blinking. Very weird. IMO

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Ron, You should have left Mommy at home.

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:21 PM
Blockbuster-Ron doesn't want to answer who is taking care of JR now, then says grandma- What about Misty.

JMO

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:21 PM
yes....makes me go

hmmmmmmm

yep yep

bg

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Awww Mark Klass....always tells it like it is! IMO

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:23 PM
Yup. And he's right. Ron does need to convince Misty to cooperate as much as she can.

Awww Mark Klass....always tells it like it is! IMO

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:23 PM
At least his voice is stronger....he seems not as "down" as in the last few interviews IMO

His voice is strong and he is speaking pretty clearly but he looks bad to me :sad: He looks thin, he's taking deep breaths, I really don't think he knows what has happened to his little girl.

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:24 PM
After the way she has been treated since Friday morning, I wouldn't be there either.

Maybe LE is questioning her again.

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:24 PM
Her 2nd birthday if I heard correctly.

Talked about custody issue...didn't get it all as I was typing...but he said he took physical custody of the kids on Haleigh's b-day. Went to court, she didn't show...she wah, wahed to the court and got another hearing about custoday, and lawyered up, and he still got custody because he is the better parent, the better provider.

Mark Klass was on giving support to Ron and said some other things but I was typing and didn't catch it.

I couldn't be a transcriptionist (is this a word) lol

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:24 PM
Talked about custody issue...didn't get it all as I was typing...but he said he took physical custody of the kids on Haleigh's b-day. Went to court, she didn't show...she wah, wahed to the court and got another hearing about custoday, and lawyered up, and he still got custody because he is the better parent, the better provider.

Mark Klass was on giving support to Ron and said some other things but I was typing and didn't catch it.

I couldn't be a transcriptionist (is this a word) lol

lol Liz...you are doing just fine!

Mark told Ron he needs to get Misty to clear up the time line and inconsistencies so LE can move on

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:25 PM
Blockbuster-Ron doesn't want to answer who is taking care of JR now, then says grandma- What about Misty.

JMO

hhhhmmm good ? I really wish Nancy had guts to ask him why he married Misty?

Good Lord. I believe I am losing it. For an angry father in 911 call, he is toooooooo calm and collected. Fishy

BG

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:26 PM
I also agree with Ron that this entire custody crap during this time is just wrong. Bad timing.

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the new thread
Dont think NG will push him tonight but marc K will tell him to get her a talkin

JUSTSAYIN
03-16-2009, 09:26 PM
first time I heard him call her haleigh

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:27 PM
Ron says that Misty didn't call 911 right away because she wanted to look for Haleigh herself in case she was in another room or something. She didn't want to make a false call.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:27 PM
Talked about custody issue...didn't get it all as I was typing...but he said he took physical custody of the kids on Haleigh's b-day. Went to court, she didn't show...she wah, wahed to the court and got another hearing about custoday, and lawyered up, and he still got custody because he is the better parent, the better provider.

Mark Klass was on giving support to Ron and said some other things but I was typing and didn't catch it.

I couldn't be a transcriptionist (is this a word) lol

He got a bit upset it seemed when Mark Klass was talking.. took deep breaths.. Has Mark klass met him in person anyone know.

TunaMelt
03-16-2009, 09:29 PM
Well you can't blame him for not wanting to tell everyone where his son is with his daughter missing...

Absolutely agree with you.

If it were me I'd probably have said "Miz Nancy, with all due respect, that's none of anyone's dam business."

:wink:

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:29 PM
He got a bit upset it seemed when Mark Klass was talking.. took deep breaths.. Has Mark klass met him in person anyone know.


Not that I have heard, Motomom

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:29 PM
I also agree with Ron that this entire custody crap during this time is just wrong. Bad timing.

Sorry not to agree with you, but Crystal needs to get Jr. away from Ron & Misty immediately.

FoxySly
03-16-2009, 09:29 PM
I think that is a very sweet Southern thing!

Yup, I raised my Son way down south Texas from age 10 to adult & that's how he talks. He also says yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir.

Just manners IMO & glad my Son uses them.

Sly

~

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:30 PM
Blockbuster-Ron doesn't want to answer who is taking care of JR now, then says grandma- What about Misty.

JMO

What about protecting your child from a TV broadcast?

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:30 PM
I just think if she was so "concerned" she would have done this sooner. Not now.

Sorry not to agree with you, but Crystal needs to get Jr. away from Ron & Misty immediately.

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:30 PM
I do like these TH's...

I guess I'm the only person that does Not like MK. He rubbed me the wrong way during the Elizabeth Smart case. He tried to strong-arm Ed into doing something for the show MK was doing at the time.

Is the little one really at GGM????

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:30 PM
NG asked Ron about the time...Ron said she was still searching, and didn't want to make a false 911 call, and NG said, so when you pulled up she was still looking, and he said absolutely.

JMO-I would not care if I looked like a fool, after the first couple of minutes, I would be calling 911.

Previously, he said Misty was at the door looking out.

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:31 PM
NG asked Ron about the time...Ron said she was still searching, and didn't want to make a false 911 call, and NG said, so when you pulled up she was still looking, and he said absolutely.

JMO-I would not care if I looked like a fool, after the first couple of minutes, I would be calling 911.

Especially after seeing the light on in the kitchen and the back door open.

JMO

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:32 PM
No. I disagree with that reporter about the bathroom. You can see the light from that room.

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:32 PM
Yup, I raised my Son way down south Texas from age 10 to adult & that's how he talks. He also says yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir.

Just manners IMO & glad my Son uses them.

Sly

~

We were commenting on the southern "Miss" thang. Not ma'am and sir.

JS

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Boy Richard R made it in for this one after being treated for cancer he looks so tired GET WELL Richard...sorry O/T

I can not even believe RC has not ask misty those questions we have seen his temper and if he wants to get the focus off her tell her to talk so they can move on and find out where this little girl is.

I really hope crystal holds off on this custody right now

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Ron just said what I have kept saying...you can see the kitchen light shining from the bedroom!

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Is that Ron sniffing like that????:w00t:

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:33 PM
lol Liz...you are doing just fine!

Mark told Ron he needs to get Misty to clear up the time line and inconsistencies so LE can move on

I am confused. However, I believe Ron and yet I don't. Maybe he is smarter than I am giving credit. I am not sure about him. I am not sure about Misty. Geese,

I need to watch more than post.

BG

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:34 PM
Yes! I agree and just said that above that that reporter is wrong.

Ron just said what I have kept saying...you can see the kitchen light shining from the bedroom!

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:34 PM
Ron is sniffing a ton.

LOL, I just asked my DH if that was him, allergies and all ya know.
What a hoot.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:34 PM
I am confused. However, I believe Ron and yet I don't. Maybe he is smarter than I am giving credit. I am not sure about him. I am not sure about Misty. Geese,

I need to watch more than post.

BG

you and me both BG! I can't make heads or tails out of this one. :sad:

TunaMelt
03-16-2009, 09:35 PM
Ron is sniffing a ton.

Is that where that sniffing is coming from?

I couldn't figure out who was doing it -- it's loud.

I wonder if he's got a cold LOL.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:35 PM
I just think if she was so "concerned" she would have done this sooner. Not now.

I agree with this. It's just an opportunity for her now IMO

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 09:35 PM
Crap ... did I miss Nancy Grace?

Will it air again at 10:00 EST?

Anything interesting come out of it?

Scanning posts ...

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:35 PM
Ron bought deadbolt....no one else has key

IlliniFan
03-16-2009, 09:36 PM
Ron just said what I have kept saying...you can see the kitchen light shining from the bedroom!


Right...the kitchen and LR are one big room...the br door opens to the LR...so while you cannot see the Kitchen fixture itself....the light would illuminate the LR room...I just have never been able to figure out why people were so befuddled by this...

tinkerbell
03-16-2009, 09:36 PM
I wonder if Misty had a key to the house; and I wonder if she did, does she still have it now?

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:37 PM
Right...the kitchen and LR are one big room...the br door opens to the LR...so while you cannot see the Kitchen fixture itself....the light would illuminate the LR room...I just have never been able to figure out why people were so befuddled by this...


me either Illini

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:37 PM
Is that where that sniffing is coming from?

I couldn't figure out who was doing it -- it's loud.

I wonder if he's got a cold LOL.

Yea but the sniffing is going on while Ron is talking, who is sniffing?
Rons mom? It's her.

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:38 PM
Ron said he replaced the locks on the house. No one has a key

Then he had to leave it unlocked. Right??

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:38 PM
Yea but the sniffing his going on while Ron is talking, who is sniffing?
Rons mom? It's her.

she was crying so I think it is her

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:39 PM
His mom's been crying and sniffing. Not Ron IMO.

Yea but the sniffing is going on while Ron is talking, who is sniffing?
Rons mom? It's her.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Then he had to leave it unlocked. Right??


Or Misty or someone else in the house that night after Ron left.

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:39 PM
What he said was that he had all the locks replaced when he moved in.

Then he had to leave it unlocked. Right??

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Looks like the Ms Nancy has been dropped...

TunaMelt
03-16-2009, 09:40 PM
Yea but the sniffing his going on while Ron is talking, who is sniffing?
Rons mom? It's her.

You think?

I've got my face as close as I can to the teevee screen and I can't see who's doing it.

But you're right, while he's talking, there's sniffling going on big time.

So unless he can talk n' sniff at the same time, it's his mother.

:mellow:

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:40 PM
she was crying so I think it is her

Those poor people. How can they have any tears left!

FoxySly
03-16-2009, 09:40 PM
We were commenting on the southern "Miss" thang. Not ma'am and sir.

JS


Yes, I know... My post again

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxySly
Yup, I raised my Son way down south Texas from age 10 to adult & that's how he talks. He also says yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir.

Just manners IMO & glad my Son uses them.

Sly

~

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:40 PM
Sorry...I wasn't including him. I meant the other two right before the break who thinks the cops should quit worrying about which bathroom and to find this little girl. I don't have a problem with Mark though...He's been through more than I can ever imagine...

Good job Ron on correcting them on this light/bathroom thing...

I'm glad that was cleared up.... I could never understand why they were insisting that the light couldn't be seen. Of course it would leave off a glow IMO

tmw
03-16-2009, 09:41 PM
Or Misty or someone else in the house that night after Ron left.

I thought he said HE was the only one with a key?

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 09:41 PM
Oh good!

Stole the remote and it is still on ..

Where is Misty?

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:41 PM
No mention of Misty bros being there

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:41 PM
HE blew it, talking about deadbolt on door. NG asked him and he said he bought new locks after NG asked him the preacher bought the deadbolts/

Ron said yes I did, caught what he said. Yes, I did to prevent/stop this (paraphrase). I will watch again. At 9 pm central. IMHO

Nancy is hitting him hard.

BG

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:42 PM
When he says that I'm sure what he means is that no strangers have a key. Doesn't mean Misty can't have one, or his mom. IMO

I thought he said HE was the only one with a key?

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:42 PM
she was crying so I think it is her

I agree. Just put my back up for a bit.
Can you imagine? She is suffering from double pain, the suffering of her son and her own suffering.

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Getting a little hostile now about the kitchen light switch.

moo

you know I have wondered that so I am really glad it was cleared up she may have only seen the light not been going to that bathroom across the living room so I am glad he cleared that up I figured if the bedroom door was open she could see it on. jmo

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Nancy said the previous owner said he bought locks. And Ron said he did too once he moved in and had them replaced because he didn't want strangers/previous owners having a key to his home. I see nothing wrong with that.

HE blew it, talking about deadbolt on door. NG asked him and he said he bought new locks after NG asked him the preacher bought the deadbolts/

Ron said yes I did, caught what he said. Yes, I did to prevent/stop this (paraphrase). I will watch again. At 9 pm central. IMHO

Nancy is hitting him hard.

BG

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Ron bought deadbolt....no one else has key

Yes and I'm also glad that was cleared up.. because of the previous owner saying he put the lock on..Ron just replaced that lock is all.

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Is anyone else watching?
I wonder who told Ron to stare into the camera like that? He's focusing on that camera so hard that he is hardly even blinking. Very weird. IMO

What's so weird about facing the camera? :confused:

I think he might have called his child by her NAME which some here worry about too.

I wouldn't call either WEIRD tho, so I'm interested in your interpretation. TIA:smile:

tinkerbell
03-16-2009, 09:44 PM
When he says that I'm sure what he means is that no strangers have a key. Doesn't mean Misty can't have one, or his mom. IMO

I wondered if Misty had a key and if so; does she still have it? Could she have given/loaned it to someone?

TunaMelt
03-16-2009, 09:44 PM
Can I please ask, have they investigated the AC repair man?

I believe that he's been investigated and to my knowledge, he's in the clear.

If I've got this wrong, please someone correct me so this poster can get the right answer.

TIA,

:smile:

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:44 PM
I watched some of it his mom looks really bad. Where was Misty I bet she is watching jr. because Ron didnt really want to answer.

I thought he stated his grandmother was watching Junior. :confused:

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:45 PM
I would like to know what the lady who did the home tour feels about all this. Ron was saying that the door was bumped.

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Interesting that neither Ron or Theresa mentioned Misty's brother and kids being there. And tonight is the firt time I have heard officialy from them that Misty's cousin Joe was there. Are they back to throwing Joe under the bus?

moo

I thought I heard Ron say NO that the cousin wasn't there, but Nancy didn't hear him

Ice Cycle
03-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Ok, been watching NG and kind of fuming. Reply to question about their marriage (something like) " We need to not focus on that but finding Haleigh, my question is why did she not turn around and say that to him???
My opinion is it is pure damage control, he having his Mother on there with him to give him some credibility when is needed. To smooth over his remarks and actions.
I believe NG will continue to loose viewers but probably not too worried about it as long as the CA saga is on going, since she airs it so much.

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 09:46 PM
HE blew it, talking about deadbolt on door. NG asked him and he said he bought new locks after NG asked him the preacher bought the deadbolts/

Ron said yes I did, caught what he said. Yes, I did to prevent/stop this (paraphrase). I will watch again. At 9 pm central. IMHO

Nancy is hitting him hard.

BG

HE did say that...

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:46 PM
You think?

I've got my face as close as I can to the teevee screen and I can't see who's doing it.

But you're right, while he's talking, there's sniffling going on big time.

So unless he can talk n' sniff at the same time, it's his mother.

:mellow:

I hope I was not the only one that was trying to talk and sniff at the same time LOL..

I didn't even notice the sniffling till someone mentioned it.

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:47 PM
No mention of Misty bros being there

I noticed that. Don't know who said they were there originally.

cloe23
03-16-2009, 09:47 PM
I believe that he's been investigated and to my knowledge, he's in the clear.

If I've got this wrong, please someone correct me so this poster can get the right answer.

TIA,

:smile:

You are correct.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:48 PM
HE blew it, talking about deadbolt on door. NG asked him and he said he bought new locks after NG asked him the preacher bought the deadbolts/

Ron said yes I did, caught what he said. Yes, I did to prevent/stop this (paraphrase). I will watch again. At 9 pm central. IMHO

Nancy is hitting him hard.

BG


He replaced the locks.. so something like this did not happen.. nothing wrong with that IMO. I check my kids windows to make sure nobody can get in and steal them.

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:48 PM
You know I am not so sure RC knows who was there that night since he was working how does he know misty is not lying about no one being there we dont know that nor has LE said they know it is a fact.
That caller said she even called the Tip Line about someone being in the home that night such as Cousin, A/C man, whoever coming back that night after RC left:confused:

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:48 PM
Nancy said the previous owner said he bought locks. And Ron said he did too once he moved in and had them replaced because he didn't want strangers/previous owners having a key to his home. I see nothing wrong with that.

I will re watch. TY ..Not good at multi-tasking.

BG

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:49 PM
It was Ron's mom that was sniffing and after getting a good look at her, she seems quite sick. Anyone else think she looks like she is running a fever???

I don't know about a fever but she looks terrible too.. so does ron imo

TunaMelt
03-16-2009, 09:49 PM
I hope I was not the only one that was trying to talk and sniff at the same time LOL..

I didn't even notice the sniffling till someone mentioned it.

LOL.

I noticed it because I thought it was my husband :scared: who isn't the sniffling type.

:wink:

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:50 PM
HE blew it, talking about deadbolt on door. NG asked him and he said he bought new locks after NG asked him the preacher bought the deadbolts/

Ron said yes I did, caught what he said. Yes, I did to prevent/stop this (paraphrase). I will watch again. At 9 pm central. IMHO

Nancy is hitting him hard.

BG

I didn't perceive it that way. How is it you think he blew it BG? :confused:

I do not in the furthest chambers of my mind believe Nancy is being hard on Ron and do strongly believe she has confidence that Ron and Teresa wouldn't be there if they had been involved in the disappearance of Haleigh. JMO THO. :sad:

Ron stated he does not believe Misty left the children unattended.

tinkerbell
03-16-2009, 09:50 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a deadbolt lock positioned below the doorknob... Anyone else?

MOO

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:51 PM
I watched some of it his mom looks really bad. Where was Misty I bet she is watching jr. because Ron didnt really want to answer.

Help me out here, isn't Ron staying with the grandmother now? Not sure if I heard it on NG or read it..

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Well, so much for NG's "Bombshells."

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:51 PM
The dealbolt on their door was above the handle. And yes. I have seen that.

I don't think I've ever seen a deadbolt lock positioned below the doorknob... Anyone else?

MOO

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:51 PM
I don't know about a fever but she looks terrible too.. so does ron imo

Did Ron just say that he starts his day off right now kissing Junior when he wakes up????? :crying:

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:52 PM
Didn't someone post an article earlier that said they have a place to live now but will not say where it's at?

Help me out here, isn't Ron staying with the grandmother now? Not sure if I heard it on NG or read it..

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
I thought I heard Ron say NO that the cousin wasn't there, but Nancy didn't hear him

Glad I'm not crazy.. I thought I heard that too..or something along those lines. I thought there was confusion about WHO (brother or cousin) that was there that night.

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah that woman is a mess.

Lord, Theresa is an emotional mess. She's feeling it more than Ron. I hope she is getting medical treatment, she's going to collapse. That poor woman.

FoxySly
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Mark IMO is totally correct when he says that misty's inconsistencies needs to be cleared up.

I can see when this happened being all confused but by now misty should be able to put all the pieces of what happened together IMO.

Sly

~

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
I thought I heard that too.

Ron did say that. But, didn't TN say the cousin was there?

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Help me out here, isn't Ron staying with the grandmother now? Not sure if I heard it on NG or read it..

That is what was stated this evening Motomom. Teresa is in her home and Ron is with his grandmother/Teresa's mother. That was my understanding. JMO tho.:sad:

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Did Ron just say that he starts his day off right now kissing Junior when he wakes up????? :crying:

Yes and that Jr. sleeps in bed with Ron

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
That's what I think too. Ron was hesitant to answer. And to say he wanted to safeguard Junior by not disclosing, everyone knows that GGM's house, that's where the wedding was.

moo

I thought that also but he could be afraid of someone coming and harming his other child we just do not know what he is thinking right now other than they have not removed the child from his care and I would hope LE would do that if they felt him or Misty had anything to do with this. I bet him and crystal are going to have a horrible custody fight and this little boy is going to go through U know what I pray they get him some help.

Januarybaby
03-16-2009, 09:54 PM
Every time I see RC mother in an interview or whatever she is sniffling. I can understand I would be too because you can tell she loves Haleigh so much.

However, I really wish someone would give her a box of tissues, the sniffling sound is getting nerving.

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 09:55 PM
Instead of repeating the same things we have heard over and over and viewing the previously shown videos, it would be nice if some reporter would question him about taking the kids and visiting at SO homes.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:55 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a deadbolt lock positioned below the doorknob... Anyone else?

MOO

Actually yes.. My mothers doors have the lock below the handle.. I think both doors, but the front one definitely has the lock below the hand..

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 09:55 PM
Ron did say that. But, didn't TN say the cousin was there?

Yes she did then he said NO he wasn't so which is it:confused:

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:56 PM
Did Ron just say that he starts his day off right now kissing Junior when he wakes up????? :crying:

Not sure about waking up, I didn't hear it.. but going to bed, he kisses him before he goes to bed with Ron, in his bed.

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 09:56 PM
Mark IMO is totally correct when he says that misty's inconsistencies needs to be cleared up.

I can see when this happened being all confused but by now misty should be able to put all the pieces of what happened together IMO.

Sly

~

WELL, if LE is trying to MAKE IT FIT THEIR THEORY and suggesting this seventeen year old is LYING right to her face....if it was me I do believe I would be getting an attorney. So, after seeing some SHODDY LE WORK when they are hell-bent on making a story fit their theory, the idea she walks out is not shocking to me. JMO:sad:

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 09:57 PM
Well it's over. No bombshell and no talk of supposed evidence found along the road like some thought they heard earlier.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 09:58 PM
Lord, Theresa is an emotional mess. She's feeling it more than Ron. I hope she is getting medical treatment, she's going to collapse. That poor woman.

I think she's showing it more than Ron. Notice he closes his eyes and his head bobs a bit.. I think that is part of his pain if that makes any sense. I hope she is seeing someone too..this is just a dreadful case

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 09:58 PM
You can tell that Nancy Grace likes Ron and is not too fond of Crystal...

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 09:59 PM
I didn't perceive it that way. How is it you think he blew it BG? :confused:

I do not in the furthest chambers of my mind believe Nancy is being hard on Ron and do strongly believe she has confidence that Ron and Teresa wouldn't be there if they had been involved in the disappearance of Haleigh. JMO THO. :sad:

Ron stated he does not believe Misty left the children unattended.

Candy, I do best I can. I was trying to watch, listen and post. Multi task is not my best.

However, IMO Nancy asked so many questions and to the pundits. I will watch it again.

I hope I am wrong the way I preceived. :)

Yes, very sad. I pray Haleigh comes home alive. I do not want to believe or think family members had anything to do w/her disappearance.

Truly, w/ the Anthony case I had to leave the board. I am very concerned where Haleigh is. I hope she comes home.

TY for your post.

BG

trucrime
03-16-2009, 09:59 PM
Im not convinced Misty had a direct hand in Haleigh's dissapearance -- BUT I think she could be hiding something, like she wasnt there for a period of time at night. OR someone (or plural some people) were over at some point before Ron got home. with her changing stories, something is NOT right.

Why did Ron marry this woman before she was cleared? Goes to show he didnt think things through all the way... a teen bride. This doesnt look good. IMO.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:00 PM
When Nancy was asking Teresa questions about who was there that night Teresa mentioned the cousin and I am almost certain I heard Ron say that the cousin was not there that night.
I'm confused.
Anyway I believe that Mr. Klaas is right that the best thing Misty could do at this time is to speak to the investigators and get that all squared away so that things can proceed from there.
IMOO

the stupid phone rang and I missed this part :cursing: I will have to watch on youtube tomorrow!

I just noticed (because of your post) that I misspelled Mark Klaas's name in my post. I apologize!

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Can someone find out pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.

OK first it was said her brother was thier with his kids but TN just said yes that the cousin was there from out of town. I wonder if she did not mean to say yes about him and was not thinking clear she is so torn up more than any of them so maybe she just answered before Nancy got it out and then RC said NO the cousin was NOT there...more and more and more questions everyday

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Yes and that Jr. sleeps in bed with Ron

Hi Toni, LTNS. Thank you. I still believe Ron is not involved in this and my heart goes out to their family. Every time I see Teresa I want to crawl through the screen and hug her tight. :wub: She is melting away and all she wants is to bring Haleigh home alive. Oh how I am praying for a miracle.

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
WELL, if LE is trying to MAKE IT FIT THEIR THEORY and suggesting this seventeen year old is LYING right to her face....if it was me I do believe I would be getting an attorney. So, after seeing some SHODDY LE WORK when they are hell-bent on making a story fit their theory, the idea she walks out is not shocking to me. JMO:sad:

Yes. The Duke case comes to mind Candy. DA was determined to make the case fit, for a number of reasons. If I were Misty...I would have a lawyer, especially due to her age.

As my good father always tells me, if you ever get arrested, your one phone call should not be to me (a retired coal miner), but your uncle, a practicing criminal law attorney. To date, I have never had to consider his advice. LOL MOO

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
I wasn't trying to downplay what others heard. Sorry If I came off like that. I just meant that we didn't see or hear about what other reported on earlier.

It wasn't just what some thought they heard...It was plastered all over HLN since last night...in print. Something along the lines of, "Did LE find a clue along a major highway"....

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
I dont understand, why didnt they mention this "new clue found on the highway"????

Hopefully it is in evidence.

Destini
03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
Lord, Theresa is an emotional mess. She's feeling it more than Ron. I hope she is getting medical treatment, she's going to collapse. That poor woman.

I feel really bad for her. I can't remember, does she live alone? Why in the world would Ron & Misty not stay with Theresa? Even since the beginning, I haven't been able to understand why his side of the family is staying in tents, especially him & Misty. I would think it would be supportive for both of them to stay with his mom.

But he's staying with his grandmother now?

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:03 PM
Hi Toni, LTNS. Thank you. I still believe Ron is not involved in this and my heart goes out to their family. Every time I see Teresa I want to crawl through the screen and hug her tight. :wub: She is melting away and all she wants is to bring Haleigh home alive. Oh how I am praying for a miracle.

ITA! I think that so many wrong stories are out there! did you see his head shaking when the callers called in! JMO

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 10:03 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a deadbolt lock positioned below the doorknob... Anyone else?

MOO

I can't recall seeing any that way either, maybe because of the handicap ramp the deadbolt was put below the door knob. The impression I got was that Ron changed the locks, not put them in for the first time.

JMO

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 10:03 PM
I assume Rionald is sleeping with his new bride. So, Jr. has to sleep with both of them. Not good.

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Did Ron just say that he starts his day off right now kissing Junior when he wakes up????? :crying:

and he sleeps in the same bed?

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:05 PM
You know I am not so sure RC knows who was there that night since he was working how does he know misty is not lying about no one being there we dont know that nor has LE said they know it is a fact.
That caller said she even called the Tip Line about someone being in the home that night such as Cousin, A/C man, whoever coming back that night after RC left:confused:

I got that same feeling. Not sure if anyone else caught it but Teresa acknowledged that cousin was there but Ron said the cousin wasn't there....so there's a big inconsistency right there.

Also, the light being on has just become a major sticking point for me. Ron said that the kitchen light filters through the bedroom.....Misty would have seen Haleigh NOT in her bed!!

Very interesting interview. I think Ron only knows what Misty is telling him and IMO, it is not the truth and nothing but the truth. I agree with Marc Klaas. He's a smart man. It's not only the police, FBI but they have child abduction experts on this case and if Misty is NOT cleared, there is a reason for that.

At least Ron accepts the fact that it could very well be someone who knows the family!!!

Time to bring Misty and Cousin whatshisface back in for questioning!!

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:05 PM
I assume Rionald is sleeping with his new bride. So, Jr. has to sleep with both of them. Not good.

Did Ron say junior is sleeping in the bed while they have marital activities? I didnt hear that! jmo

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Couple, three questions



Didn't LE already state there were no tool marks on the door?

Doors with deadbolts cannot just be undone from the outside without a key?

Who had keys to the back door?

FoxySly
03-16-2009, 10:06 PM
WELL, if LE is trying to MAKE IT FIT THEIR THEORY and suggesting this seventeen year old is LYING right to her face....if it was me I do believe I would be getting an attorney. So, after seeing some SHODDY LE WORK when they are hell-bent on making a story fit their theory, the idea she walks out is not shocking to me. JMO:sad:

I have been very scared that LE in this case might be as bad as in the Trenton case but I'm hoping that they are at least as good as in Caylee's case.

To many Children's cases in Florida!

:sad:
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Sly

~

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:06 PM
I feel really bad for her. I can't remember, does she live alone? Why in the world would Ron & Misty not stay with Theresa? Even since the beginning, I haven't been able to understand why his side of the family is staying in tents, especially him & Misty. I would think it would be supportive for both of them to stay with his mom.

But he's staying with his grandmother now?

Maybe her place is too small? Could be something as simple as that.

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:07 PM
Candy, I do best I can. I was trying to watch, listen and post. Multi task is not my best.

However, IMO Nancy asked so many questions and to the pundits. I will watch it again.

I hope I am wrong the way I preceived. :)

Yes, very sad. I pray Haleigh comes home alive. I do not want to believe or think family members had anything to do w/her disappearance.

Truly, w/ the Anthony case I had to leave the board. I am very concerned where Haleigh is. I hope she comes home.

TY for your post.

BG

I try hard to push the dark thoughts away right now with little to no real evidence found (that we know about anyway). It's almost like the old "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" for me. IF there isn't something Misty is holding back on, I am sickened to think about what a sex offender might do to that sweet innocent child HALEIGH and that's about all I'm left with if Misty knows nothing more. :crying:

I think the Junior story about a black man in black is a bunch of hooey and that if it was true, it would have come out long before that visit IMO. :blushing: It just doesn't wash given the two ways I've heard it come out and on that I might have to agree with what Ron thinks about someone feeding it to Junior.

AGAIN, JMO. IT'S good to see you back posting BG.

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 10:07 PM
Hi Toni, LTNS. Thank you. I still believe Ron is not involved in this and my heart goes out to their family. Every time I see Teresa I want to crawl through the screen and hug her tight. :wub: She is melting away and all she wants is to bring Haleigh home alive. Oh how I am praying for a miracle.

Hi Candy...I agree..this is killing Teresa...and I too hope that Haleigh is found

Ice Cycle
03-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Yes, but when a cop keeps yelling at you and saying that you are lying when you know you are not, what else can she do?

She could hire a Attorney or tell the story right.

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:08 PM
I got that same feeling. Not sure if anyone else caught it but Teresa acknowledged that cousin was there but Ron said the cousin wasn't there....so there's a big inconsistency right there.

Also, the light being on has just become a major sticking point for me. Ron said that the kitchen light filters through the bedroom.....Misty would have seen Haleigh NOT in her bed!!

Very interesting interview. I think Ron only knows what Misty is telling him and IMO, it is not the truth and nothing but the truth. I agree with Marc Klaas. He's a smart man. It's not only the police, FBI but they have child abduction experts on this case and if Misty is NOT cleared, there is a reason for that.

At least Ron accepts the fact that it could very well be someone who knows the family!!!

Time to bring Misty and Cousin whatshisface back in for questioning!!

Cousin Joe was cleared as a suspect by the police

The only question I have for/about him is the van ... was that the van he was driving that Misty said her blanket was in?

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:09 PM
I assume Rionald is sleeping with his new bride. So, Jr. has to sleep with both of them. Not good.

I disagree. Let me ask, would you leave one child sleep alone in their room when your other child went missing? I wouldn't. My 12 yr old climbs into our bed at night. I realize we are his parents.. (the 10 yr old, and 7 yr old do this too, along with the 76 lb dog and the 20 lb old dog and if the pug is out of his cage his fat butt is in there too... .. oh I am so tired and none of what I posted sounded like fun LOL

But seriously, I personally see nothing wrong. If it was reversed I would. Maybe a double standard but the way I feel.

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:10 PM
Cousin Joe was cleared as a suspect by the police

The only question I have for/about him is the van ... was that the van he was driving that Misty said her blanket was in?

NO Tara...he was not cleared. MOO

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
Couple, three questions



Didn't LE already state there were no tool marks on the door?

Doors with deadbolts cannot just be undone from the outside without a key?

Who had keys to the back door?

Too bad Nancy didn't follow up with that question when Ron talked about changing the lock.

I would like to know who in the family had a key also.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
when i went a couple weeks ago to this same vicinity, I asked everyone what they thought and the same consenses was the sheriff has no idea! JMO

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
and he sleeps in the same bed?



I do not agree much concerning Ron and his way of life but I would also have my child as close to me as possible every nite under the circumstance

Probably the only thing about the man I agree with

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
It wasn't just what some thought they heard...It was plastered all over HLN since last night...in print. Something along the lines of, "Did LE find a clue along a major highway"....

Yep Pia that was the banner all day on CNN, until they announced that Ron would be on live.

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
I highly doubt that the same investigator used in that interview will be speaking to her again. JMO. Even still if she is not lying then why should she care what he says? The truth is the truth plain and simple.

Tell that to the Duke Boys. MOO

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
I got that same feeling. Not sure if anyone else caught it but Teresa acknowledged that cousin was there but Ron said the cousin wasn't there....so there's a big inconsistency right there.

Also, the light being on has just become a major sticking point for me. Ron said that the kitchen light filters through the bedroom.....Misty would have seen Haleigh NOT in her bed!!

Very interesting interview. I think Ron only knows what Misty is telling him and IMO, it is not the truth and nothing but the truth. I agree with Marc Klaas. He's a smart man. It's not only the police, FBI but they have child abduction experts on this case and if Misty is NOT cleared, there is a reason for that.

At least Ron accepts the fact that it could very well be someone who knows the family!!!

Time to bring Misty and Cousin whatshisface back in for questioning!!


NT misty may not have looked in the bed first.. or the blanket/sheet may have been crumpled up. It's easy to miss a child or think a child is covered up when blankets are crumpled up.

I completely missed that Ron accepts the fact that it could be someone who knows the family. Do you remember what he said.. Geeze I was sitting right here but instead of giving 100% attention I'm chitchatting with you fine people LOL

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
the stupid phone rang and I missed this part :cursing: I will have to watch on youtube tomorrow!

I just noticed (because of your post) that I misspelled Mark Klaas's name in my post. I apologize!

It did not answer to many questions to tell you the truth Nancy used her kid gloves with him. I still can not imagine that he has not ask misty what happened the night in question he has a temper as we have seen I am sure he has nailed her down to tell him minute by minute he does not fool me on that one he knows what she has said and what they have asked her

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
Cousin Joe was cleared as a suspect by the police

The only question I have for/about him is the van ... was that the van he was driving that Misty said her blanket was in?

From what I understand, he was originally questioned and released but I don't think anyone has been cleared at this point.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
Tell that to the Duke Boys. MOO

ITA! :thumbup:

Mamie
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
I've wanted to say this for a long time and every time I get on here I get sidetracked

Very photogenic is this child. She is just a beautiful little girl. I pray that whoever has this little girl, has let her live so she can come home to her family who loves her so. JMO

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
Yes. The Duke case comes to mind Candy. DA was determined to make the case fit, for a number of reasons. If I were Misty...I would have a lawyer, especially due to her age.

As my good father always tells me, if you ever get arrested, your one phone call should not be to me (a retired coal miner), but your uncle, a practicing criminal law attorney. To date, I have never had to consider his advice. LOL MOO

I agree 4kids and there are many LE agencies under scrutiny these days with funding cut IMO. I have seen it in my community and witnessed firsthand LE coming to apologize for really pressing on an innocent person. We know this group puts on a good front when addressing the public, but we don't know much about what's going on behind the scenes at this time.

I saw Mark Klass saying all cases like this have parallel investigations running, so the idea that's something telling isn't so much now after hearing him. JMO tho.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:15 PM
Yes, but when a cop keeps yelling at you and saying that you are lying when you know you are not, what else can she do?

Good point.. I'd like to referr to the Riley Fox case once again for this almost exactly. BTW CANDY..did you ever look it up? If so you can just pm me as to not be off topic.

I don't like the fact that LE has coerced people into false confessions before. but I understand that an intense interrogation needs to be done and needs to be thoroughly, especially in regards to a missing child.. I suppose it could be a catch 22.

?noanswer
03-16-2009, 10:15 PM
Couple, three questions



Didn't LE already state there were no tool marks on the door?

Doors with deadbolts cannot just be undone from the outside without a key?

Who had keys to the back door?

The best I could see the locks, both of them were opened by turning a knob. I have heard that the best deadbolt is the one that has to be locked with a key both inside & outside. JMO

Destini
03-16-2009, 10:15 PM
Maybe her place is too small? Could be something as simple as that.

That's true ... just hope she has someone close staying with her.

I think it's very odd about her saying the cousin was there & Ron saying no, he wasn't. Several weeks ago, didn't she say there was a fight between Ron & this cousin & then next day Ron says no, there wasn't. He even went so far as to say whoever was saying this didn't know what they were talking about. Right after that Theresa backed down about the cousin & said there wasn't a fight.

I can't help but wonder if Theresa knows something about this cousin that Ron is trying to hide and this could be another reason for her breaking down so on NG tonight. Wouldn't it just tear you up to hear your child lie about something that important (if it is a lie)????

Can you imagine? As a mother it would just tear you up to have your grandchild missing & feel like your own child was not being upfront about events of the evening? Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but something strikes me wrong about this.

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:15 PM
It did not answer to many questions to tell you the truth Nancy used her kid gloves with him. I still can not imagine that he has not ask misty what happened the night in question he has a temper as we have seen I am sure he has nailed her down to tell him minute by minute he does not fool me on that one he knows what she has said and what they have asked her

I got the impression that he knows that the cousin was there but for some reason I got the sense that he was trying to hide it. Why?

Is this guy a SO and he shouldn't have been there?

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:16 PM
He did but he ask Nancy do I have to answer that and then he finally said his grandmother. I think Misty was most likely watching him imo

Well I don't think he was lieing because I believe he is staying at the grandmothers for now, with Misty I assume and Junior..

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:16 PM
I'll replay the tape later and see what it was exactly he said but it was one of the two...brother/cousin



I read tracing things the other day all the people there that day and there was something about a brother

Not a cousin

They had a few people in the home for about half an hour around 4ish if I recollect right

?noanswer
03-16-2009, 10:17 PM
Maybe her place is too small? Could be something as simple as that.


I think the grandmother lives much closer to his trailer than his mom. I guess he wants to stay as close as possible. I think the reason he didn't want to say where he was staying was he was thinking of JR safety. JMO

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:17 PM
I find the sniffling strange absent tears but I agree.

her face and eyes were bright red. I believe the tears were real IMO

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:18 PM
NT misty may not have looked in the bed first.. or the blanket/sheet may have been crumpled up. It's easy to miss a child or think a child is covered up when blankets are crumpled up.

I completely missed that Ron accepts the fact that it could be someone who knows the family. Do you remember what he said.. Geeze I was sitting right here but instead of giving 100% attention I'm chitchatting with you fine people LOL

IIRC, when the question was asked he nodded and said it's possible....he followed up by saying he wouldn't be there if he knew who had Haleigh.

Taybug
03-16-2009, 10:19 PM
My suspicion lies with Misty. I'm not sure if she directly had something to do with Haleigh missing or if she was just an enabler (i.e. not being at home). I agree with Mark Klaas that if she IS innocent, she needs to try and get their eyes off of her.

Something that stood out to me when listening back over Misty telling the camera about what happened that night: she says (not word for word) that she went to go use the bathroom and saw the kitchen light on. While walking through the kitchen she said she noticed the door wide open and she then says .. "I walked into the room" and, basically, Haleigh wasn't there. If she HAD of been in the room previously, do you think she would have said "I walked back into the room to check on the kids" or something of that nature? I kind of got the impression that maybe she returned home (?), walking through the wide open door, noticed the kitchen light on, and then ran to the bedroom to check on the children. JMO as always.

All of the above is MOO.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:19 PM
I thought it was funny how Ronald didnt disagree with the advocate about Misty being "unsophisticated"

lol

WOW! he disagreed with things he thought were wrong! He shook his head with callers. Hes not sophisticated either. just the average Joe trying to do better JMO

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:20 PM
I thought it was funny how Ronald didnt disagree with the advocate about Misty being "unsophisticated"

lol

I know where I come from, we unsophisticated folks are happy being that way...and not bothered when called such. Call us what you will...but we are paying out bills, loving our kids and enjoying our lives. Perhpas that is how Ron sees it. MOO

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:20 PM
I think the grandmother lives much closer to his trailer than his mom. I guess he wants to stay as close as possible. I think the reason he didn't want to say where he was staying was he was thinking of JR safety. JMO

Exactly. I'm glad the question was answered because I fear for that little boy but I understand their reluctance to answer.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:22 PM
My suspicion lies with Misty. I'm not sure if she directly had something to do with Haleigh missing or if she was just an enabler (i.e. not being at home). I agree with Mark Klaas that if she IS innocent, she needs to try and get their eyes off of her.

Something that stood out to me when listening back over Misty telling the camera about what happened that night: she says (not word for word) that she went to go use the bathroom and saw the kitchen light on. While walking through the kitchen she said she noticed the door wide open and she then says .. "I walked into the room" and, basically, Haleigh wasn't there. If she HAD of been in the room previously, do you think she would have said "I walked back into the room to check on the kids" or something of that nature? I kind of got the impression that maybe she returned home (?), walking through the wide open door, noticed the kitchen light on, and then ran to the bedroom to check on the children. JMO as always.

All of the above is MOO.

In the Today Show interview she said she went back in the room to get her phone to call Ron...that is when she saw Haleigh was gone IMO

Mamie
03-16-2009, 10:22 PM
I find the sniffling strange absent tears but I agree.


Maybe she has allergies-----perfect time of year for them. Some times you have runny eyes with allergies but not all the time. JMO

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:22 PM
I thought they seemed very honest, but thats jmo!

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:23 PM
I am honestly starting to believe that this "tip" they got about her not being there is what is setting them off. For whatever reason I think they believe she wasn't and are trying to nail her on it. If the tip was unfounded and just malicious gossip or some "gut feeling" someone in LE has, she can't do anything but deny it. With no one but her and the children there how can she prove it? I can see her being frustrated over that.

At this point, if she is innocent, she should lawyer up. If she is guilty, she should lawyer up. MOO

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:24 PM
That isn't going to work and if she does conitnue to "walk out" then it will only prolong the investigation. If she is telling the truth then she has nothing to be afraid of right?
The biggest issue with all of this is knowing that it is not about Misty.
It is 100% about finding little Haleigh and if Misty cares one iota for that little girl no one and I do mean NO ONE would stop her from simply and clearly stating the facts and clearing her name.

Not necessarily as far as having nothing to fear Patricia. Sometimes we have to fear those who are there to help when they are one track minded IMO. I witnessed that with a woman from church who was too accommodating for LE and by the time they got done with that thirty year old woman (SEVEN STRAIGHT HOURS IN A SMALL ROOM), she was on the floor crying for her mother.

Thank goodness the nightmare eventually ended for her, but not before she went through a trial, served some time and won her appeal. JMO:sad:

IF they are treating her like a suspect or person of interest, then she should have an attorney to protect her rights period IMO. That won't stop her from talking to THEM, BUT MAY CAUTION them to treat her with RESPECT IMO.

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:24 PM
NT misty may not have looked in the bed first.. or the blanket/sheet may have been crumpled up. It's easy to miss a child or think a child is covered up when blankets are crumpled up.

I completely missed that Ron accepts the fact that it could be someone who knows the family. Do you remember what he said.. Geeze I was sitting right here but instead of giving 100% attention I'm chitchatting with you fine people LOL


Don't forget that originally Haleigh was in bed with her

Something you do not mistake in the heat of the moment

It was only after questioning it morphed into she was on the mattress on the floor

IlliniFan
03-16-2009, 10:25 PM
Kind of but not really. There is a 3/4 wall there with a counter bar cut out. But they are not one room.


Light would still illuminate the LR...

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:25 PM
OT....ohhhh it sure is wonderful to see Richard Herman back on NG :rose:

Is it just me but did he look really different??

BobbysGirl
03-16-2009, 10:27 PM
I try hard to push the dark thoughts away right now with little to no real evidence found (that we know about anyway). It's almost like the old "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" for me. IF there isn't something Misty is holding back on, I am sickened to think about what a sex offender might do to that sweet innocent child HALEIGH and that's about all I'm left with if Misty knows nothing more. :crying:

I think the Junior story about a black man in black is a bunch of hooey and that if it was true, it would have come out long before that visit IMO. :blushing: It just doesn't wash given the two ways I've heard it come out and on that I might have to agree with what Ron thinks about someone feeding it to Junior.

AGAIN, JMO. IT'S good to see you back posting BG.

It is good to be back posting. Past year has been h***. And if Misty is holding back, something, I don't really know. I dislike speculating. Truly. Times, I can't help it.

I don't believe Jr knows.

I grew up with no news is good news as well.

But, sheltered. Bad news were not discussed. Takes years to learn.

When life dumps the bad, hard to swallow. I have my share of horrors. Unknown. Sick yes. Still, have to plug on. When it gets too intense and too famliar then I relieve myself from posting.

Phone

BG

teresa
03-16-2009, 10:27 PM
That isn't going to work and if she does conitnue to "walk out" then it will only prolong the investigation. If she is telling the truth then she has nothing to be afraid of right?The biggest issue with all of this is knowing that it is not about Misty.
It is 100% about finding little Haleigh and if Misty cares one iota for that little girl no one and I do mean NO ONE would stop her from simply and clearly stating the facts and clearing her name.

Tell that to all the innocent people who have been released from prison after being cleared by DNA. She needs a lawyer instead of walking out, though. I admire them in one way for not getting one but it really is a bad choice for them.

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:28 PM
ITA! I think that so many wrong stories are out there! did you see his head shaking when the callers called in! JMO


Hey Jewel, :wub: I have the same suspicions regarding WRONG INFO out there and feel Ron and Teresa are just rolling with the punches at this time trying to keep one foot in front of the other PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE.

I am too at this point. BRING HALEIGH HOME! :rose:

Money Girl
03-16-2009, 10:29 PM
IMO, Nancy Grace is a complete waste as far as solving Haleigh's disappearance and bringing her home. I will not bother tuning in to her nonsense again.

IMO, we have not heard the inconsistencies that LE is talking about concerning Misty.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:30 PM
Did i hear them correctly when they said Crystal went back home? How far does she live from Ronalds house?

About an hour and a half! JMO

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:30 PM
Yes ma'am,...He has Leukemia.

http://getwellrichardherman.com/

I know :sad:

I sure hope he is going to beat it!

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:30 PM
I thought they seemed very honest, but thats jmo!

My heart breaks for Teresa. I really believe she has no clue but I have to say that I think Ron knows more than he's letting on. He and Misty are hiding something. What that is, I can only speculate. I think this cousin may be the key....and the blanket being in the van. I understand there are misunderstandings about what van and whose van but I think the blanket and the van hold the answers.

Also, I believe what was said tonight regarding taking the door down. They want to prove that nobody else could've entered that home and it had to be someone from inside.

I just pray that little girl is safe but as time goes by, I really fear the worse.

I hope whoever has her finds it in their heart to let her go. :sad:

aproudmom
03-16-2009, 10:31 PM
I got the impression that he knows that the cousin was there but for some reason I got the sense that he was trying to hide it. Why?

Is this guy a SO and he shouldn't have been there?

I agree It really hit me as soon as she said yes and he said NO he was not real fast. I am not to sure what this cousin has on him I do know misty said he did things to her if I recall and if that is true why in the heck would he every be allowed in that house with kids. SO or not if he tried things on misty he should never have been around the kids. She said she did not trust him also but he was there visiting makes you wonder

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:32 PM
I think he showed signs of defiance throughout the interview. Did you notice his facial expressions when he wasn't answering questions?

moo


At the very end of the segment, his Mom was crying and asking God to bring her back ... something like that ... and my daughter who is here tonight was watching with me and asked why he looks so ashamed

She knows zero about the case and I found her question quite intriguing

I would have taken it as he was helpless for her tears until my daughter said that and now I ask, why didn't he grab her arm, hand hug her, something?

He just sat with his eyes in a weird expression

My heart was breaking for her!

:(

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:33 PM
i'm so glad Ronald talked about the kitchen light. and you can see it from the bedroom.

I believed that from the day NG's producer got into the home. I am still perplexed about this, but strongly feel Teresa and Ron are not involved and quite frankly don't believe Crystal herself is either. I simply don't have much good to say there given the way things have gone south once she was being scrutinized too. JMO tho.

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:33 PM
I thought they seemed very honest, but thats jmo!

ITA. But I will re watch it at 9. I thought Ron's appearance was very open and his mother is crashing over this.

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 10:34 PM
Trouble with the door is..they took the screen/storm door...not the interior door with the deadbolt on it...

So I have no idea what evidence they can get from that...

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:34 PM
I agree It really hit me as soon as she said yes and he said NO he was not real fast. I am not to sure what this cousin has on him I do know misty said he did things to her if I recall and if that is true why in the heck would he every be allowed in that house with kids. SO or not if he tried things on misty he should never have been around the kids. She said she did not trust him also but he was there visiting makes you wonder

What I don't get though is Misty and her family have told LE about this cousin so why isn't LE pursuing this??

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:35 PM
Marc Klass is not a hater and neither are we who may disagree with her. That was uncalled for by Nancy.


She made it quite clear she was not talking about Marc

openminded
03-16-2009, 10:35 PM
It is cute. It was a suprise to me to see Theresa beside him and not Misty. That would have proved more solidarity.

moo

My guess would be Misty realized she didn't do that great in her New York interview and may not be available to the media any more. IMO.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:35 PM
At the very end of the segment, his Mom was crying and asking God to bring her back ... something like that ... and my daughter who is here tonight was watching with me and asked why he looks so ashamed

She knows zero about the case and I found her question quite intriguing

I would have taken it as he was helpless for her tears until my daughter said that and now I ask, why didn't he grab her arm, hand hug her, something?

He just sat with his eyes in a weird expression

My heart was breaking for her!

:(

My heart aches for her also :sad: I am thinking that being on TV not knowing exactly how to act/what to do???

I don't know Tara...this whole thing is so confusing to me!

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:36 PM
Miss and Mr are used in a southern slang to show respect for elders. I have taught my children the same. I have encountered people through my journeys in this country and other countries who do not know. It does not mean anything bad. please all southerners chime in! JMO

Destini
03-16-2009, 10:37 PM
At the very end of the segment, his Mom was crying and asking God to bring her back ... something like that ... and my daughter who is here tonight was watching with me and asked why he looks so ashamed

She knows zero about the case and I found her question quite intriguing

I would have taken it as he was helpless for her tears until my daughter said that and now I ask, why didn't he grab her arm, hand hug her, something?

He just sat with his eyes in a weird expression

My heart was breaking for her!

:(

OMG, that's exactly what I was thinking at the time, too. She was bawling at the end & he was just staring at the camera. Most children would be unnerved by their mom falling apart like that & would be upset.

I can't help but wonder if she believes he knows something & it's tearing her up.

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:37 PM
That caught my attention also and I don't understand. Misty is his wife now, so would it not be reasonable to think his son is with his wife?..can someone explain that to me?..why would he not say Misty?

MOO

I don't think the question was who's taking care of Junior...IIRC the question was where is Junior and he said he's with his grandma.

I didn't find anything strange about that at all. I did sense the reluctance to say where he was and I think it was for Junior's safety.

KKKKKKatie
03-16-2009, 10:37 PM
That caught my attention also and I don't understand. Misty is his wife now, so would it not be reasonable to think his son is with his wife?..can someone explain that to me?..why would he not say Misty?

MOO


I'm thinking that he didn't want to say exactly where he is? He daughter has been kidnapped...I would be afraid for my son also :shrug:

Ice Cycle
03-16-2009, 10:37 PM
My suspicion lies with Misty. I'm not sure if she directly had something to do with Haleigh missing or if she was just an enabler (i.e. not being at home). I agree with Mark Klaas that if she IS innocent, she needs to try and get their eyes off of her.

Something that stood out to me when listening back over Misty telling the camera about what happened that night: she says (not word for word) that she went to go use the bathroom and saw the kitchen light on. While walking through the kitchen she said she noticed the door wide open and she then says .. "I walked into the room" and, basically, Haleigh wasn't there. If she HAD of been in the room previously, do you think she would have said "I walked back into the room to check on the kids" or something of that nature? I kind of got the impression that maybe she returned home (?), walking through the wide open door, noticed the kitchen light on, and then ran to the bedroom to check on the children. JMO as always.

All of the above is MOO.

Don't know about that as if she did leave and came back and found her gone why would she not of just got in the bed and pretended to be asleep instead of up calling him and then lying about it.
The part that I have always found odd is that screen door being propped open though and the more I think about it the more I wonder if it has nothing to do with it at all. As maybe she opened it as it was hot in there (as trailers do get hotter faster) and just does not want to say that. But even if so and a stranger walked by and saw it they would not know what was going on inside and why would they prop it open as they are leaving or coming. Does not make sense and I wonder if LE is thinking that also. Makes me think if he is innocent that someone had a key to the front door.

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:39 PM
Trouble with the door is..they took the screen/storm door...not the interior door with the deadbolt on it...

So I have no idea what evidence they can get from that...


LE took the screen door?

I thought they took the back door

Why the screen door?

How odd

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Yes, I did. I found some of them inappropriate too.

I thought he only showed defiance when the callers called in and it was all wrong. He would shake his head. i figured its media misconstruing stuff.JMO

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Didnt TN also say that bedroom door is always closed? Tonight Ron said it is always open and TN nodded her head as if that it is correct? What the heck is going on here?

When they did the tour on Nancy Grace, she said it was open. They never closed the door.

openminded
03-16-2009, 10:41 PM
Ron says that Misty didn't call 911 right away because she wanted to look for Haleigh herself in case she was in another room or something. She didn't want to make a false call.

The odd thing about that, to me, is that if the back door was open she didn't have a clue whether there are still an intruder in the house. And so you would think her first thought would be to call 911, not look around for Haleigh for however many minutes and, maybe, run into an intruder hiding somewhere.

You might look around if the back door hadn't been open but I'm not buying that she did that with an open back door. Doesn't make sense.

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:42 PM
Just my opinion, but I think it's a little premature to be saying "LE is trying to MAKE IT FIT THEIR THEORY..." and suggesting "SHODDY LE WORK."

You could be right, but I am on the side of LE for the time being. They are wiser and keener than we give them credit for sometimes.

JMO, but you might have missed "if " in my post, prior to the LE quote you captured and in the post itself more than once. Then you might have missed the preface to the quote you captured on shoddy LE work too.

IF that is what happened and you were quickly scanning, it's certainly likely that helped you form your opinion. :wink: JMO

playnice
03-16-2009, 10:42 PM
Didnt TN also say that bedroom door is always closed? Tonight Ron said it is always open and TN nodded her head as if that it is correct? What the heck is going on here?

On the walk through Teresa said the door is always open and the tv on.

Larkin
03-16-2009, 10:42 PM
At the very end of the segment, his Mom was crying and asking God to bring her back ... something like that ... and my daughter who is here tonight was watching with me and asked why he looks so ashamed

She knows zero about the case and I found her question quite intriguing

I would have taken it as he was helpless for her tears until my daughter said that and now I ask, why didn't he grab her arm, hand hug her, something?

He just sat with his eyes in a weird expression

My heart was breaking for her!

:(

That was my same thought! Why when TN was sobbing her eyes out towards the end of the interview..didn't Ron at least put his arm around his mother... if not hug her??? My hinky is turbo blinking!

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:44 PM
Don't know about that as if she did leave and came back and found her gone why would she not of just got in the bed and pretended to be asleep instead of up calling him and then lying about it.
The part that I have always found odd is that screen door being propped open though and the more I think about it the more I wonder if it has nothing to do with it at all. As maybe she opened it as it was hot in there (as trailers do get hotter faster) and just does not want to say that. But even if so and a stranger walked by and saw it they would not know what was going on inside and why would they prop it open as they are leaving or coming. Does not make sense and I wonder if LE is thinking that also. Makes me think if he is innocent that someone had a key to the front door.



Very good point. The back door seems to be the big mystery but what about the front. We heard tonight that Ron changed the locks to the back door. Did he change the locks to the front door?

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:44 PM
Trouble with the door is..they took the screen/storm door...not the interior door with the deadbolt on it...

So I have no idea what evidence they can get from that...

Gotta link? I mean no disrespect, but this is huge imo and needs to be supported.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:46 PM
Gotta link? I mean no disrespect, but this is huge imo and needs to be supported.

It was on nancy. Ron said they took the door. I guess they found nothing! JMO

Mamie
03-16-2009, 10:46 PM
Maybe so but I did not hear Ron addressing Meredith as Miss Meredeth...Hmm...Maybe he lost his southern style somewhere along that long flight to NYC?
Anything is possible.
JMO

It could be because Meredith is not southern like NG. And it could be because Meredith ticked him off with her attitude before she even opened her mouth to ask them questions-----I can see that happening real easy with her! JMO

SwineFeld
03-16-2009, 10:47 PM
It's been noted numerous places and also on NG tonight. It comes on again in 15 minutes. You should try to catch it.


Gotta link? I mean no disrespect, but this is huge imo and needs to be supported.

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:47 PM
It was on nancy. Ron said they took the door. I guess they found nothing! JMO

Which door?

TaraCrazyHair
03-16-2009, 10:47 PM
Didnt TN also say that bedroom door is always closed? Tonight Ron said it is always open and TN nodded her head as if that it is correct? What the heck is going on here?


I think anyone with a child afraid of the dark would keep the door open and a light on

I am a grown adult, still keep my bedroom door open and a nite light on

( I am not afraid of the dark ... just needed to have the ear and eye open with five children)

So haleigh either had a nite light in the bedroom or a hallway light?

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:47 PM
Theresa said they were all told they could not camp out anymore so Ronald , Jr and Misti are staying with his grandmother and then the producer said and and Crystal went back to her house. I might be wrong but i think Crystal lives a few hours away.

I loved the part where Ronald said the Judge gave Crystal several attempt to try and work things out so she could have the children and she wouldn't do it and he was granted custody.

I'm just shocked a mother would admit to being to lazy to go with her children to the dr :(

Regarding Crystal admitting to her laziness on doctor appointments, I think she was jammed up tight. IIRC Ron had offered for her to drop Junior off the previous night and he would take responsibility for the appointment in the morning OR if she kept the kids, then she could take JUNIOR TO THE CARDIOLOGIST....

She opted for keeping them and was supposed to take him early to the doctor, but alas it didn't happen. That's what I remember from the transcript and I believe it was explained to the Magistrate or he asked very explicitly.

JMO and a sad opinion concerning the medical care....:crying:

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 10:48 PM
Miss and Mr are used in a southern slang to show respect for elders. I have taught my children the same. I have encountered people through my journeys in this country and other countries who do not know. It does not mean anything bad. please all southerners chime in! JMO

I agree Jewel, however you would use it all the time, I don't remember on Friday him saying Ms Merideth.

JMO

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:48 PM
i'm so glad Ronald talked about the kitchen light. and you can see it from the bedroom.

That sure shed some light (no pun intended) for me. I'm really questioning where Misty was.

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:49 PM
I have seen it before. Maybe they put the handle higher so a child couldn't reach it and then added the deadbolt later. Putting it above would make it difficult to reach and turn by key from the outside maybe?

One thing I did notice from the close up of the lock was that when Ron said something like, the lock is turned sideways on the 911 tape that he was definitely referring to it being locked! So was it locked at the time of the 911 call? Maybe the back door being open was an after thought altogether and it was never opened!

My mom's house is old, so her door and lock is old as well. that deadbolt on her door I wouldn't even consider a deadbolt it's that old lol..

I don't think it was locked when he got home.

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:49 PM
It's been noted numerous places and also on NG tonight. It comes on again in 15 minutes. You should try to catch it.

That is my plan.

RainyNiteNTx
03-16-2009, 10:49 PM
Miss and Mr are used in a southern slang to show respect for elders. I have taught my children the same. I have encountered people through my journeys in this country and other countries who do not know. It does not mean anything bad. please all southerners chime in! JMO

Yes, it is a term of respect and in some cases, a term of endearment, like men touching the brim of their hat. It doesn't matter Jewel, no matter what is said from Ron, or how it is said, people will find fault with it. My heart breaks for all of them - moreso tonight than before. Not sure why. Maybe it just feels like Haleigh isn't coming home.

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:50 PM
I agree Jewel, however you would use it all the time, I don't remember on Friday him saying Ms Merideth.

JMO

Maybe meridith was not respectful from the get go! JMO :

mustangtoni
03-16-2009, 10:50 PM
LE took the screen door?

I thought they took the back door

Why the screen door?

How odd


Exactly...that's what I don't understand...If you watched NG tonite...you can see the back door still there...but not the screen door...

Mamie
03-16-2009, 10:51 PM
We don't even know what she has said to LE. We don't know any of the "inconsistencies"...she doesn't appear to me to be anything like CA.

I agree. And I think that her "leap" to thinking first and then saying it that she'd passed the polygraph was just her misspeaking. I think in her little mind because they hadn't put any cuffs on her and hauled her away that she thought she passed. She thought she must have passed. JMO

P.S. On another note, I'm sure glad we had a caller tonight that said that she, herself, used to go and use the bathroom in the hallway so she didn't wake the little ones. So finally, since that bit of common sense hadn't dawned on anyone on camera but it did with us here, and the caller tonight, I'm glad for that. Maybe they'll finally put that one to bed----no pun intended. JMO

Casecase
03-16-2009, 10:51 PM
Miss and Mr are used in a southern slang to show respect for elders. I have taught my children the same. I have encountered people through my journeys in this country and other countries who do not know. It does not mean anything bad. please all southerners chime in! JMO


I'm in the midwest and I've taught my child to do the same thing.

cloe23
03-16-2009, 10:52 PM
This was the best part of the interview in my opinion. So, that clears that up, now why did the police wait for over 30 days to take the screen door and they still as far as I know have not taken the main door, which has the dead bolt.

MOO

Yea but check out the bounty hunter utube posted here. No key required. JMO Locks are picked.

n/t
03-16-2009, 10:53 PM
This was the best part of the interview in my opinion. So, that clears that up, now why did the police wait for over 30 days to take the screen door and they still as far as I know have not taken the main door, which has the dead bolt.

MOO

They must have a theory, imo and are putting the pieces together.

4Kids
03-16-2009, 10:53 PM
She's beginning to remind me of Casey, giving out stories to find one that LE will believe. LE most be so totaly frustrated with her.

moo

Which is why she needs counsel ASAP. Wouldn't you agree Swaro? MOO

CANDYKISSES
03-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Nope, not even close in comparison regarding the subject of the original post. JMO

I disagree given that you took what you chose to comment on OUT OF CONTEXT. But hey, that's JMO. :w00t:

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Yea but check out the bounty hunter utube posted here. No key required. JMO Locks are picked.

My kids took the hinge off my front door the other day and laughed about it! :crying: I have three locks on it! jmo nauseating in my opinion. :angry:

Justy
03-16-2009, 10:55 PM
We were commenting on the southern "Miss" thang. Not ma'am and sir.

JS

If you read this carefully you would see she said her son ALSO said:
yes ma'am, and no ma'am, yes sir, no sir.
I assume she meant because she raised her son in the south he had manners and said "Miss" AND the others too.

"Yup, I raised my Son way down south Texas from age 10 to adult & that's how he talks. He also says yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir."

"Just manners IMO & glad my Son uses them."

And I also believe that your post was uncalled for. Not very "mannerly"
was it?

MrLucky917B
03-16-2009, 10:55 PM
That sure shed some light (no pun intended) for me. I'm really questioning where Misty was.

No reports of any Misty sightings since fridays interview, maybe she is keeping out of sight.

JMO

Motomom
03-16-2009, 10:56 PM
I felt he seemed a bit defiant or standoffish when he said that too. Did anyone else perceive that also? I wonder why.

he did. not sure which word i would use but i know what you mean. i assume that is because of the hoopla surrounding the kids in his room, but that's just a case. sorry for improper capitalization, i swear my computer keyboard is haunted.. every few days a new key is sticking driving me crazy. this time it's the left hand shift key uggg.

Mamie
03-16-2009, 10:56 PM
Those were your children and I hope your husbands children correct?

Turn this around and assume you had your daughter in the bed with your boyfriend and you and he was not her father... would it still seem completely natural?

Kind of like what Michael Jackson does with little boys he is unrelated to? Still completely natural?


Not that I'm a fan of kids sleeping with their parents especially when they are Junior's age, but Junior was already sleeping with Misty when Ron was working. Because they ony had two beds and little Haleigh had a bed-wetting problem so she had the junior bed. It looks like a junior mattress----not a full twin sized mattress. So in this case, I would tend to let it slide and besides, he has to go back to work some time and then it won't be three-in-the-bed anymore. LOL. JMO

jewel6
03-16-2009, 10:57 PM
I use this term a lot but not with everyone I know. Sometimes I may use it for a person and the next time not.

I agree. im sure Merdith would of flipped a wig! JMO