Bad Time To Get Married!

[TannersMom]

I have two children and if one of them had really been abducted the last thing I would be thinking about is marrying my teenage lover. That is unless I wanted to make sure they could never be forced to testify against me. What is upsetting is up until now I truly felt like the father nor the girlfriend had anything to do with it. Now I cant help but think maybe she did lose it and harm her in some way. Either way it is so sad. I cannot imagine what I would do if my child was out there with a stranger, harmed or who knows what. I would lose my mind. Every night I pray that Haleigh will be found and every morning I get online and her name is the first thing I search for. Today is the first time that I thought maybe Misty did do something by accident, the dad probably knows and now they are just desperate to hide it. If they are innocent of harming her they are definately guilty of bad judgement. Him running with a teenager, she was way to bubbly on her way to the courthouse and showing off the engagement ring and now married? There is only one explanation for such a rush to get married... you cannot be forced to testify against your spouse! I cannot be the only one out there thinking this.

[bonniez45]

I think maybe it was bad time
I also think there is alot ,again, alot that we don't know
I also think Ron married Misty out of honor and to help her for all the attacks on her.
I also think yeah, Crystal loves her children but only has herself at heart.
I grieve for this family for their loss and the stories, hate they have had to deal with, they are so young and inexperienced to have to put up with the hell they are going through and it's good that Rons immediate family has been so supportive of them both.
I don't think Haleigh wll be coming home alive though I pray I'm wrong.
I also hope God will help the healing for this family and to the public that they deal with.

[Jinxie]

I have been married for 27 years to my sweetheart who is 7 1/2 years my senior. We've had many arguments and fights and made our share of mistakes. We met when I was 16 and began dating at my 17th birthday. In any case we're still happily married and have 3 lovely grown children. I wish that I had a dollar for every person who said it would never last!

Ron and Misty clearly love each other despite differences and arguments but do have bad judgement is all I believe. I also don't think that Misty did anything to Haleigh, nor Ron for that matter. However in my heart and soul I do believe that this is an insider job. Someone who is close to this family and knows them well took this child.

FYI Spousal privilege law doesn't apply in this case so that would not be the reasoning behind this.

[TannersMom]

FYI Spousal privilege law doesn't apply in this case so that would not be the reasoning behind this.

Please explain how it does not apply. Are there circumstances in which spousal privilege wouldn't apply?

[sofiesmom]

Please explain how it does not apply. Are there circumstances in which spousal privilege wouldn't apply?Last night someone said (either on JVM or NG) that it doesn't apply to things that occured before the marriage. but I could swear I've seen cases in which folks get married for just the benefit of spousal privilege. Maybe it varies by state? And if it doesn't apply in this case, surely they would have been advised by someone of this.

[psbperu]

Spousal privilege does not apply since this case is about a child & besides the event happened prior to the marriage.

[Carolyn2005]

I have two children and if one of them had really been abducted the last thing I would be thinking about is marrying my teenage lover. That is unless I wanted to make sure they could never be forced to testify against me. What is upsetting is up until now I truly felt like the father nor the girlfriend had anything to do with it. Now I cant help but think maybe she did lose it and harm her in some way. Either way it is so sad. I cannot imagine what I would do if my child was out there with a stranger, harmed or who knows what. I would lose my mind. Every night I pray that Haleigh will be found and every morning I get online and her name is the first thing I search for. Today is the first time that I thought maybe Misty did do something by accident, the dad probably knows and now they are just desperate to hide it. If they are innocent of harming her they are definately guilty of bad judgement. Him running with a teenager, she was way to bubbly on her way to the courthouse and showing off the engagement ring and now married? There is only one explanation for such a rush to get married... you cannot be forced to testify against your spouse! I cannot be the only one out there thinking this.


That was my first thought!

[Dunlurken]

Personally, I think a wife cannot testify against her husband and vice versa. Threw up HUGE flags for me.

Yeah, Haleigh would have wanted this. Why do they speak of her in the past tense? JMO.

[Breazy]

OK, I'm going to go against the grain here . . .

Up until I saw the video of the Today show interview, I did not suspect Ron nor Misty of being responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. However, a really bad feeling has overtaken me upon watching. I now believe that Ron himself is responsible and Misty is covering for him. He just did not look like a man in love that couldn't wait to marry. As they were saying their vows, they didn't even look at one another. Ron is just standing there looking like he couldn't wait to get out of there, no love in his eyes whatsoever. Misty looks enamored by Ron and like she would do anything in this world for him. Ron just looks so put out about the whole Misty thing, no affection or reassurance shown to her at all. Even sitting on the couch at the Today show, he never gave her a reassuring look or even reached over to take her hand. C'mon, that is NOT a man in love. I know I'll probably get bashed by many but felt compelled to post my thoughts. I haven't posted here since the beginning of this case, but have been following along.

[The Lion S]

So-- say there was a fight someone over a gun the night before. The following night that same someone takes Haleigh in retaliation. So that would mean both Ron and Misty know who took her. Wouldn't that be obstruction? To make it look like a kidnapping when they both know what happened, and have an idea who did it?

[Randy]

--I don't trust Misty---There's something hinky about her, imo---I believe Ron loves her--(and has a fixation on very young girlfriends)--

[kellabeck]

I would have worded the options differently and the one that would have fit my opinion would have been:

"I was already suspicious and the marriage doesn't help."

[Babes]

Spousal privilege does not apply since this case is about a child & besides the event happened prior to the marriage.


Right. LE can still question Misty about Ron any information or events before their marriage. Spousal priviledge only applies after the matrimony was executed.

IMO , there is more story behind the disappearance of Haleigh. There could be illegal activities or drug activities that Ron and Misty could be involved and they are trying to protect themselves by marrying to one another. It is possibly not even their idea to get married... but who really gets married when your daughter just go missing recently...:confused:

[BobbisAngel]

I have two children and if one of them had really been abducted the last thing I would be thinking about is marrying my teenage lover. That is unless I wanted to make sure they could never be forced to testify against me. What is upsetting is up until now I truly felt like the father nor the girlfriend had anything to do with it. Now I cant help but think maybe she did lose it and harm her in some way. Either way it is so sad. I cannot imagine what I would do if my child was out there with a stranger, harmed or who knows what. I would lose my mind. Every night I pray that Haleigh will be found and every morning I get online and her name is the first thing I search for. Today is the first time that I thought maybe Misty did do something by accident, the dad probably knows and now they are just desperate to hide it. If they are innocent of harming her they are definately guilty of bad judgement. Him running with a teenager, she was way to bubbly on her way to the courthouse and showing off the engagement ring and now married? There is only one explanation for such a rush to get married... you cannot be forced to testify against your spouse! I cannot be the only one out there thinking this.



I think it is just really bad judgment on their part. From what I understand they could still testify against each other even if they are married now because they weren't married when Haleigh was taken.
I don't think either of them are involved. I don't know why they made the decision to get married right now except that they are both young and not thinking straight. Twenty five yrs is still a kid in my book anyway. Maybe they really did think that they were doing it for Haleigh and that she would be thrilled when she gets home.

I think if Ron even thought that Misty had anything to do with Haleigh missing there would be hell to pay. He has loved his daughter for five years and I don't have a doubt of how much he loves and misses her. He would probably strangle anyone that took her if he could get his hands on them. I know I sure would if I were in his shoes. I don't think he would ever cover for anyone who has put him and Haleigh through such hell.

[Santa'sMom]

OK, I'm going to go against the grain here . . .

Up until I saw the video of the Today show interview, I did not suspect Ron nor Misty of being responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. However, a really bad feeling has overtaken me upon watching. I now believe that Ron himself is responsible and Misty is covering for him. He just did not look like a man in love that couldn't wait to marry. As they were saying their vows, they didn't even look at one another. Ron is just standing there looking like he couldn't wait to get out of there, no love in his eyes whatsoever. Misty looks enamored by Ron and like she would do anything in this world for him. Ron just looks so put out about the whole Misty thing, no affection or reassurance shown to her at all. Even sitting on the couch at the Today show, he never gave her a reassuring look or even reached over to take her hand. C'mon, that is NOT a man in love. I know I'll probably get bashed by many but felt compelled to post my thoughts. I haven't posted here since the beginning of this case, but have been following along.

I have to agree with you. I, however, have felt from the beginning that Ronald was the responsible party or that he had done something to someone and Haleigh was taken in retaliation and that Ronald knows who took her and why. His interview where he threw himself on the ground came across as phony to me. In every interview I've seen of him he comes across as someone who is full of rage. Sure, you're going to be mad as a hornet if someone takes your child but mostly you are going to be devastated and, mostly, worried as all get-out. I just don't see that in him. I see Misty as believing that Ronald is the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread. I don't see him holding any affection for her at all. I also don't see Misty as being bright enough to pull anything off by herself. She appears to be a nice girl to me but not "over qualified" in the brains department. Ronald mentioned, I believe, three times that he was at work when it happened. It almost seemed as though he was proud of that. It has been stated from the beginning that he was at work during the time that she reportedly came up missing. Does he have a problem saying his daughter's name? He doesn't even call her by a nickname. It's always "my little girl" or "my daughter." To me, it comes across as though he sees her as being a possession. I can't imagine not mentioning my kids' names if the horrible happened and one or both was missing. Saying my daughter or my little girl isn't in itself a bad thing but he has almost never called her by her name or even mentioned her name. I'm really, really hoping that the whole thing was a stunt in an attempt to get money and that Haleigh is hidden somewhere and will be "miraculously" located soon. I have wanted to see Ronald as the innocent father but the video of the wedding and the video of the Today Show threw away any current hope I see in that. But... I was wrong once (ok, maybe a bunch of times). I guess time will tell. Prayers for Haleigh, Trenton, Jennifer, Jailek, Adjir, .....

[BobbisAngel]

If I remember correctly I saw a picture of Ron down on one knee asking Misty to marry him. Misty also talked about it. So he was romantic in front of the families. I think they wanted to get married but I'm sure that Haleigh being gone took a lot of the joy out of the ceremony and afterwards. It would be hard to be all goggly eyed with each other when something much bigger has to be on their minds...especially Rons.
They may just not be outwardly affectionate in front of others. It's hard to tell but I wouldn't judge them to harshly for their behavior towards each other at a time like this and in front of the whole nation.

[Former Juror]

Ron didn't marry the mother of his first 2 children or the mother of baby number three, but he does decide to marry his 17-year old girlfriend who just so happens to be the last person to see his daughter.......while that little girl is still missing???????????

Something's up.

IMO

[iluvspring]

I have been married for 27 years to my sweetheart who is 7 1/2 years my senior. We've had many arguments and fights and made our share of mistakes. We met when I was 16 and began dating at my 17th birthday. In any case we're still happily married and have 3 lovely grown children. I wish that I had a dollar for every person who said it would never last!

Ron and Misty clearly love each other despite differences and arguments but do have bad judgement is all I believe. I also don't think that Misty did anything to Haleigh, nor Ron for that matter. However in my heart and soul I do believe that this is an insider job. Someone who is close to this family and knows them well took this child.

FYI Spousal privilege law doesn't apply in this case so that would not be the reasoning behind this.

I haven't been able to keep up with the posts the last couple days. Think it was a mild case of flu. Yuck. I ran across this post and it certainly agrees with the way I see this case. Late last night I stopped by Scared Monkeys and someone posted a "family tree." Quite some characters in both families that are capable of being the perps. There are a couple of SO's and some who are definitely of the criminal element (I'd bet many of them have rap sheets as long as your arm.)Whenever I listen to either of these families I think of the Beverly Hillbillies. They are so back woodsish...is that a word?....I could believe none have had more than a 6th grade education. Poor Misty comes from a real trashy family who have given her zero guidance and I honestly don't think she has lied in anyway. I think people have chosen to twist what she has said. What difference does it make whether she got up to get a drink or to go to the bathroom? No big deal as I see it. She isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and I don't think she has deliberately lied. None of us has 100% recall and in a situation like this details can become clouded. Ron is an ignorant, uneducated redneck who doesn't know how to articulate his feelings and, of course, he would be filled with rage. Someone has taken his beloved child. I can't even imagine what he is feeling. To think Ron, Misty or Crystal had a hand in this is ridiculous at best. I believe LE has some idea as to who it was...hence the removal of the screen door. They are prolly looking to build a solid case before they move to make an arrest. I say give this family a break and try to imagine what they are going through. Give LE a chance to do their job and pray that they are able to find poor little Haleigh and that she is still alive.
Just my opinion.

[msgatorslayer]

Horrible timing!! Getting married should be the last thing on their minds. All they should care about is finding Haleigh. JMO

[bonniez45]

I haven't been able to keep up with the posts the last couple days. Think it was a mild case of flu. Yuck. I ran across this post and it certainly agrees with the way I see this case. Late last night I stopped by Scared Monkeys and someone posted a "family tree." Quite some characters in both families that are capable of being the perps. There are a couple of SO's and some who are definitely of the criminal element (I'd bet many of them have rap sheets as long as your arm.)Whenever I listen to either of these families I think of the Beverly Hillbillies. They are so back woodsish...is that a word?....I could believe none have had more than a 6th grade education. Poor Misty comes from a real trashy family who have given her zero guidance and I honestly don't think she has lied in anyway. I think people have chosen to twist what she has said. What difference does it make whether she got up to get a drink or to go to the bathroom? No big deal as I see it. She isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and I don't think she has deliberately lied. None of us has 100% recall and in a situation like this details can become clouded. Ron is an ignorant, uneducated redneck who doesn't know how to articulate his feelings and, of course, he would be filled with rage. Someone has taken his beloved child. I can't even imagine what he is feeling. To think Ron, Misty or Crystal had a hand in this is ridiculous at best. I believe LE has some idea as to who it was...hence the removal of the screen door. They are prolly looking to build a solid case before they move to make an arrest. I say give this family a break and try to imagine what they are going through. Give LE a chance to do their job and pray that they are able to find poor little Haleigh and that she is still alive.
Just my opinion.

Thank goodness a voice of sanity.

[VII]

I haven't been able to keep up with the posts the last couple days. Think it was a mild case of flu. Yuck. I ran across this post and it certainly agrees with the way I see this case. Late last night I stopped by Scared Monkeys and someone posted a "family tree." Quite some characters in both families that are capable of being the perps. There are a couple of SO's and some who are definitely of the criminal element (I'd bet many of them have rap sheets as long as your arm.)Whenever I listen to either of these families I think of the Beverly Hillbillies. They are so back woodsish...is that a word?....I could believe none have had more than a 6th grade education. Poor Misty comes from a real trashy family who have given her zero guidance and I honestly don't think she has lied in anyway. I think people have chosen to twist what she has said. What difference does it make whether she got up to get a drink or to go to the bathroom? No big deal as I see it. She isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and I don't think she has deliberately lied. None of us has 100% recall and in a situation like this details can become clouded. Ron is an ignorant, uneducated redneck who doesn't know how to articulate his feelings and, of course, he would be filled with rage. Someone has taken his beloved child. I can't even imagine what he is feeling. To think Ron, Misty or Crystal had a hand in this is ridiculous at best. I believe LE has some idea as to who it was...hence the removal of the screen door. They are prolly looking to build a solid case before they move to make an arrest. I say give this family a break and try to imagine what they are going through. Give LE a chance to do their job and pray that they are able to find poor little Haleigh and that she is still alive.
Just my opinion.

I was cutting slack until the marriage.
IMO, the dang door SHOULD have been removed day 1 or day 2, at best.
Very poor investigative work and IF it yeilds any evidence, the room for it to be discounted by contamination is propped open with a concrete block (no pun intended).....

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[Sharmayla]

Hi everyone! I voted for "they have very bad judgement." When I saw Misty on The Today Show, she reminded me of myself - so young and innocent(?) and inexperienced and stupid and idiotic. Way too young to get married. She doesn't even know what love is yet. She's still a kid. She's making the biggest mistake of her life. She said Ron got down on "his knees" to propose. A man doesn't get down on his knees - he gets down on ONE KNEE. I feel so sorry for both of them. It's awful to be young and stupid. JMO

[CJSMOMMY]

I haven't been able to keep up with the posts the last couple days. Think it was a mild case of flu. Yuck. I ran across this post and it certainly agrees with the way I see this case. Late last night I stopped by Scared Monkeys and someone posted a "family tree." Quite some characters in both families that are capable of being the perps. There are a couple of SO's and some who are definitely of the criminal element (I'd bet many of them have rap sheets as long as your arm.)Whenever I listen to either of these families I think of the Beverly Hillbillies. They are so back woodsish...is that a word?....I could believe none have had more than a 6th grade education. Poor Misty comes from a real trashy family who have given her zero guidance and I honestly don't think she has lied in anyway. I think people have chosen to twist what she has said. What difference does it make whether she got up to get a drink or to go to the bathroom? No big deal as I see it. She isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and I don't think she has deliberately lied. None of us has 100% recall and in a situation like this details can become clouded. Ron is an ignorant, uneducated redneck who doesn't know how to articulate his feelings and, of course, he would be filled with rage. Someone has taken his beloved child. I can't even imagine what he is feeling. To think Ron, Misty or Crystal had a hand in this is ridiculous at best. I believe LE has some idea as to who it was...hence the removal of the screen door. They are prolly looking to build a solid case before they move to make an arrest. I say give this family a break and try to imagine what they are going through. Give LE a chance to do their job and pray that they are able to find poor little Haleigh and that she is still alive.
Just my opinion.

Total Hillbillies,hey I'm from Tn and I know hillbillies when I see em.I have to admit I got judgemental the first day when I saw the grandfather on tv with his "Git er done" hat.I think these poor people just don't know any better. Bad judgement all the way.

I just pray this poor baby girl is found soon.

[Adalena935]

I have two children and if one of them had really been abducted the last thing I would be thinking about is marrying my teenage lover. That is unless I wanted to make sure they could never be forced to testify against me. What is upsetting is up until now I truly felt like the father nor the girlfriend had anything to do with it. Now I cant help but think maybe she did lose it and harm her in some way. Either way it is so sad. I cannot imagine what I would do if my child was out there with a stranger, harmed or who knows what. I would lose my mind. Every night I pray that Haleigh will be found and every morning I get online and her name is the first thing I search for. Today is the first time that I thought maybe Misty did do something by accident, the dad probably knows and now they are just desperate to hide it. If they are innocent of harming her they are definately guilty of bad judgement. Him running with a teenager, she was way to bubbly on her way to the courthouse and showing off the engagement ring and now married? There is only one explanation for such a rush to get married... you cannot be forced to testify against your spouse! I cannot be the only one out there thinking this.

bolding mine

You are not alone.

[Adalena935]

Spousal privilege does not apply since this case is about a child & besides the event happened prior to the marriage.

Florida statute says AT ANY TIME. Also it cites a supreme court case #84-472 when the 3rd party in a crime/criminal proceeding is NOT her child.

I don't know how all that would play out in this case but there are exceptions as they apply to each case according to FL code & SC.

http://www.ccadp.org/valentine-writtenlaw.htm

Husband and Wife Privilege

Florida Statute 90.504

[Adalena935]

Hi everyone! I voted for "they have very bad judgement." When I saw Misty on The Today Show, she reminded me of myself - so young and innocent(?) and inexperienced and stupid and idiotic. Way too young to get married. She doesn't even know what love is yet. She's still a kid. She's making the biggest mistake of her life. She said Ron got down on "his knees" to propose. A man doesn't get down on his knees - he gets down on ONE KNEE. I feel so sorry for both of them. It's awful to be young and stupid. JMO

Sounds like you're talking about Haleigh '..she doesn't even know what love is yet..' She's younger still than age 17. She was only 5 and she's the victim here.

Them getting married is their bee's wax. But a child is missing and their house a crime scene. A crime so serious the FBI is involved by federal law.

[TannersMom]

[QUOTE=BobbisAngel;12891742]It would be hard to be all goggly eyed with each other when something much bigger has to be on their minds...especially Rons.
QUOTE]

Misty was all googly eyed at the courthouse when they went to get the marriage license and when she was showing off the ring.:thumbdown:

[TannersMom]

Im very new to this sight. Just found it and have learned a lot. I agree with most of the posts. In the end we all want the same thing and that is for sweet Haleigh to get home. I do think her dad is truly devestated and that Misty is very young and immature. Did one of them have something to do with it? Gosh I hope not. But I also think that if that is the case it will come out. The mother needs to get off her high horse with her accusations and insinuations. Her hands arent clean. Dont step up now that something bad has happened and you think your past can escape you. You were around for a reason.:thumbdown:

[VII]

"Very poor investigative work............"

Huh? You can tell all that from your seat in front of the computer? Boy, you're good! IMO This is just my opinion, but I bet the authorities are a whole smarter than any of us, and just might know what they're doing!! IMO

why YES, I can.
THANK you.
So,
if they're sooooo *smart*,
whyyyyy didn't they take the stinkin' door on day 1, no later than day 2?
Could it not be reasoned that by taking it THEN
they MAY have some CLUE/direction to take to find her?
or COULD have already found her by now?
why NOW that every relative and their dog has contaminated the door.
j/c
and
TIA!! :thumbup:

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[LordMisRule]

Horrible timing!! Getting married should be the last thing on their minds. All they should care about is finding Haleigh. JMO

ITA - horrible timing, bad judgement. And the excuse that Haleigh would have wanted it - no, I think Haleigh would want to be found, not for them to get married.

[Hey Paula]

I voted: The marriage is strictly to protect them from testifying against each other.


I think Ron was the one who wanted the marriage and the protection. However, I wonder if this marriage will offer any protection inasmuch as it occurred after Haleigh went missing, especially if it can be proved the marriage was arranged merely for protection? In such a case, Misty and/or Ron might not fall under that umbrella of protection.

[TealMermaid]

[QUOTE=BobbisAngel;12891742]It would be hard to be all goggly eyed with each other when something much bigger has to be on their minds...especially Rons.
QUOTE]

Misty was all googly eyed at the courthouse when they went to get the marriage license and when she was showing off the ring.:thumbdown:

Yes, that sickened me too. How could they plan a wedding celebration when Haleigh went missing only a month ago?:confused:

[GentleBreeze]

I think it is just really bad judgment on their part. From what I understand they could still testify against each other even if they are married now because they weren't married when Haleigh was taken.
I don't think either of them are involved. I don't know why they made the decision to get married right now except that they are both young and not thinking straight. Twenty five yrs is still a kid in my book anyway. Maybe they really did think that they were doing it for Haleigh and that she would be thrilled when she gets home.

I think if Ron even thought that Misty had anything to do with Haleigh missing there would be hell to pay. He has loved his daughter for five years and I don't have a doubt of how much he loves and misses her. He would probably strangle anyone that took her if he could get his hands on them. I know I sure would if I were in his shoes. I don't think he would ever cover for anyone who has put him and Haleigh through such hell.


ITA!

I think they just felt they should go ahead and do what they said Haleigh wanted them to do and hoping upon hope that if she returns safely, she will be happily surprised, and tickled they did get married.

I will never believe Ron would protect ANYONE that took or may have harmed Haleigh. In fact if LE does find out who took her, I think they will be making sure Ron has no access to them. Imo, he would probably try to rip their head off and I really can't blame him.

Getting married doesn't protect either one of them during the most pivotal time when Haliegh first went missing up until the marriage. They have given many statements already to LE.

imo

[Krystal]

[QUOTE=TannersMom;12894278]

Yes, that sickened me too. How could they plan a wedding celebration when Haleigh went missing only a month ago?:confused:

IT upsets me too. How could they even think about such a thing? Haleigh might be dead or being tortured, and Misty's gushing like a school girl with a crush!:loveeyes: YUCK!
I hear that they took a Honeymoon too? Is that true? I'm gonna puke!!!
barf

[KaraokeDiva]

I didn't vote as there was no choice that was applicable..

I think Ron married Misti cuz she has something on him....:(

[cookiedog]

I am still having a hard time keeping the many family members straight. Someone in this thread mentioned a family tree on SmartMonkeys. I have searched high and low at SMs and can not find the family tree.

Could someon provide a link please?

[tinkerbell]

I am still having a hard time keeping the many family members straight. Someone in this thread mentioned a family tree on SmartMonkeys. I have searched high and low at SMs and can not find the family tree.

Could someon provide a link please?

Try here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0

[cookiedog]

That's exactly what I was looking for!

[tinkerbell]

Great cookiedog; glad I could help!

[TannersMom]

Everyday I go read the latest news about Haleigh. In the beginning Ron really came off as truly devestated either because his baby was gone and he didnt know where she was or with who or... his baby was dead and he knew it but had to convince everyone she was abducted. I think the emotion he was showing was raw and very real. If I had to chose who did it in the beginning I would have thought Misty. But then he goes off and gets married:confused: I dont get that! Then on the other side you have Crystal who at first implies she wasnt buying the abduction story. Then she starts trying to make excuses for why Ron had Haleigh and how she had been tricked out of making it to court for the custody hearing. Now she is making accusations of physical abuse and creating drama with regard to custody of Jr. How about keeping the focus on Haleigh Crystal???? Junior could not be any safer!!! The police are not letting Ron nor Misty out of their sight! Stop trying to make yourself look better. Oh, ya and (this may have already been discussed on this board but I am very new) am I the only one who noticed that in the first interview Crystal ever gave she looked like she had two black eyes and a busted nose????? It was the first thing I noticed when I saw her in that first interview and I said out loud to my husband, "She got hit hard by somebody! Look at those racoon eyes." I waited and listened for somebody to comment on it on the news. I emailed Nancy Grace to no avail. The next interview you could see she had taken time to put makeup on but you could still see it. Was it ever mentioned? Did I just miss it? It seems like everybody involved in this case are focused on all the wrong things!:thumbdown:

[Sharmayla]

I don't understand. Why would I be referring to Haleigh? I'm referring to Misty. A 17yr old is still a baby. She has no idea what she's getting herself into, getting married so young. I made the same mistake, and it ruined my life. Hope she enjoys living in a trailer and possibly living with her mother-in-law because they're so poor. IMO, no 17yr old should EVER get married. JMO

Sounds like you're talking about Haleigh '..she doesn't even know what love is yet..' She's younger still than age 17. She was only 5 and she's the victim here.

Them getting married is their bee's wax. But a child is missing and their house a crime scene. A crime so serious the FBI is involved by federal law.

[Dunlurken]

They got married so they won't have to testify against each other. Or at least that's Ron's thinking. He is starting to rub me the wrong way with his stoopidness.

To even suggest Haleigh would have wanted this is ludicrous. JMO.

[Randy]

NGrace has Ron Cummings on for the full hour answering phone calls from callers with his mother---She is grilling him good too.

I still believe Misty knows waaay more than him and has pulled the wool over his eyes---No doubt he has a penchant for young girls---I still believe he is more naive than her---mo

[Miz Owl]

I think too much is being made of the age factor. It is stupid timing on thier part - on the other hand, maybe this is how they feel they can survive this crisis: together. Since when did that become a crime?

I married my husband when I was 17 years old. He was 24. My mother had to sign a permission form for me too - and we've been married for 34 years (35 this August) - proving all the naysayers wrong! We don't feel that we've had to work any harder at making our marriage work than anyone else.

Then again, we were both mature enough to make a lifetime commitment - some 40, 50, and 60 years old still can't seem to make that step!

[Not Telling]

ITA!

I think they just felt they should go ahead and do what they said Haleigh wanted them to do and hoping upon hope that if she returns safely, she will be happily surprised, and tickled they did get married.

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imo


How could a parent not know a child of that age would be very upset and not understand why, not only, his/her parent got married without them, but did it while they were missing....and especially if the child was fond of the new stepparent and wanted the marriage???...

[Moondancer]

They got married so they won't have to testify against each other. Or at least that's Ron's thinking. He is starting to rub me the wrong way with his stoopidness.

To even suggest Haleigh would have wanted this is ludicrous. JMO.

I think Ron married Misty because he's worried about statutory rape charges. If I were Crystal, I'd try to get custody of the kids based on that. This man technically can be charged as a sex offender. :ohmy:

[Moondancer]

NGrace has Ron Cummings on for the full hour answering phone calls from callers with his mother---She is grilling him good too.

I still believe Misty knows waaay more than him and has pulled the wool over his eyes---No doubt he has a penchant for young girls---I still believe he is more naive than her---mo

When was this on? Is there somewhere I can view this video? I'm so mad that I missed it!!!:mad:

[ortiga]

I think they got married because so many thoughtless, mean, nosey parkers were criticizing Ron for choosing someone of 17. Of course if it had been Alabama or Georgia we would never have heard the gossips going on and on about something that was none of their business and only caused more heartbreak for a devastated family.

IMO

[Tia]

I think its terrible timing getting married now. BUT, I think that this married is almost some sort of "pay-off" for "helping" out the other.

[akelly1999]

I'm sorry but shouldn't this guy's main objective be to find his missing 5 yr. old daughter? ANd wouldn't you want all of your family to be there at your wedding?? Instead of walking around the trailer park with his young wife smoking cigarettes, he ought to be out looking all over for his little girl. I want to know just how someone managed to get into the trailer, (apparently through the front door), went right into the bedroom, unlocked the back door and placed a cinder block in front of the door to keep it opened without wakening the girlfriend/wife and the little brother. Now I know kids have been taken out of homes before i.e. the Lundsford girl and the one in San Diego, but those 2 kids were sleeping in other rooms, not with their parents. How did someone get past this girlfriend? Her stories don't match up either. AS for them getting married, it won't protect them from what testimony they've given at the beginning when Haleigh disappeared. They weren't married then. Laws differ by state so maybe now they can't testify against each other but it didn't count at the beginning....I can't help it, I think they're both involved but hope I'm wrong. JMO

[Not Telling]

I think they got married because so many thoughtless, mean, nosey parkers were criticizing Ron for choosing someone of 17. Of course if it had been Alabama or Georgia we would never have heard the gossips going on and on about something that was none of their business and only caused more heartbreak for a devastated family.

IMO

How terrible of all the thoughtless, mean and nosey people for criticizing Ron for his continued and repeated statutory rape of an underage girl!!!

[forensicfan]

I think too much is being made of the age factor. It is stupid timing on thier part - on the other hand, maybe this is how they feel they can survive this crisis: together. Since when did that become a crime?

I married my husband when I was 17 years old. He was 24. My mother had to sign a permission form for me too - and we've been married for 34 years (35 this August) - proving all the naysayers wrong! We don't feel that we've had to work any harder at making our marriage work than anyone else.

Then again, we were both mature enough to make a lifetime commitment - some 40, 50, and 60 years old still can't seem to make that step!

Wow! Congrats on the marriage!

I do think that this was just bad judgement on the timing.

I do have one other theory as to why now. I remember the attorney for Crystal's custody case emphasizing on NG the age factor of Misty and that Ron "always had" teenagers watching the kids. Since it appears that Crystal is going ahead with a custody battle now, could he have married Misty to take that factor out of the equation?

[aubrey04]

I think they got married because so many thoughtless, mean, nosey parkers were criticizing Ron for choosing someone of 17. Of course if it had been Alabama or Georgia we would never have heard the gossips going on and on about something that was none of their business and only caused more heartbreak for a devastated family.

IMO

Isn't it against the law in Florida for a 25 year old to have sex with a 17 year old? Didn't they start dating when she was 16 and he was 24? If it is against the law and considered statutory rape - then I hardly think the people on here who are questioning the relationship, especially since a child is missing in the mix, are just "nosey parkers".

Personally I feel sick that Haleigh was brought up with this crowd. I hope that she is found safe..

My hinky meter is through the roof with this marriage. Something isn't right..

[DesertWalker]

We spoke to attorney Tom Slater of Pajcic & Pajcic about the issue to get clarification on what the rule really is.
"Any communications between a husband and wife are privilege, but its when they are made as husband and wife. Now, any communications between the two of them before they got married are not privileged, so if one of them confessed to the other prior to marriage, then those statements are not privileged," says Slater.


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=133721

[VII]

Wow! Congrats on the marriage!

I do think that this was just bad judgement on the timing.

I do have one other theory as to why now. I remember the attorney for Crystal's custody case emphasizing on NG the age factor of Misty and that Ron "always had" teenagers watching the kids. Since it appears that Crystal is going ahead with a custody battle now, could he have married Misty to take that factor out of the equation?

Does cause one to pause and consider what OTHER "bad judgements" have been made, eh?

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[spageddy]

About the marriage- to use one of Ron's favorite phrases: "I dunno". Sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with themselves. I do think the key to finding haileigh is with the people who were in the home that evening. I know that there was a repairman and Ggma, but I still don't know for sure if there was or was not a cousin-nephew uncle who visited. This was being discussed yesterday and it seems to be a fuzzy point. Who was it? was he actually there that day? and is he related to Misty or Ron?
My guess is that someone inside the home left the deadbolt unlocked and came back later knowing the door would be unlocked. Or person #1 unloced the bolt so person # 2 could come in later. It wouldn't be that hard to pop in for a visit and casually undo the lock when Misty wasn't looking. In fact Ron could have done it before he went to work. This of course is all just me thinking out loud. total speculation. just one of many scenarios I have thought about to solve this puzzle.

[i_pickle]

The timing of this marriage couldn't have been worse. What were these people thing? :huh:

[forensicfan]

Does cause one to pause and consider what OTHER "bad judgements" have been made, eh?

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Meaning what? I'm not sure if I understand your post.

I don't think he killed or did something to his daughter nor do I think Misty did. I also don't think Crystal did anything to her either.

But if you are referring to the custody battle right now, then yes, I think it's not the time for that either.