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beachpatty
03-13-2009, 06:26 AM
G'Mornin;
I missed most of yesterdays posts so I'll start this and catch up, then I'll come back here and catch up. You guys are busy & quick, at least there are some folks still worrying about Haleigh & where she is! The 3 ring circus going on over in the Satsuma area is becoming a bit over the top and really bizarre. Their CHILD is MISSING, what part of that don't they understand? The whole family has nothing but excuses for their behavior, they are all "victims", and they wallow in it.

Hope for Haleigh:wub:
Beachpatty

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 06:32 AM
Morning. I missed a lot of stuff too.

It would be great if whoever starts the days threads, and even the part 2's, 3's, etc., could start it off and include a little recap of the previous days/evenings/threads events.

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 06:38 AM
Hoping for Haleigh's safe return in addition to Best Wishes to Ronald and Misty.

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 06:45 AM
Morning. I missed a lot of stuff too.

It would be great if whoever starts the days threads, and even the part 2's, 3's, etc., could start it off and include a little recap of the previous days/evenings/threads events.

I would be happy to do that IF I could ever get & be caught up :ohmy:

Maybe some kind soul would be kind enough to provide a "snapshot" of the ummm "highlights" (?), from the previous day??

Is it today that Ron (& Misty) are scheduled for "Today"? Anybody know?

Hope fpr Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 07:14 AM
LOL Yeah I know what you mean. Things do seem to go fast around here.

I would be happy to do that IF I could ever get & be caught up :ohmy:...............

n/t
03-13-2009, 07:15 AM
I would be happy to do that IF I could ever get & be caught up :ohmy:

Maybe some kind soul would be kind enough to provide a "snapshot" of the ummm "highlights" (?), from the previous day??

Is it today that Ron (& Misty) are scheduled for "Today"? Anybody know?

Hope fpr Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty


Good Morning,

Yes today at 7:30 from what I read.

"The couple is schedule to appear on NBC's "Today" show at 7:30 a.m. Friday. It will be shown on WESH 2."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/


Yesterday's highlights:

Dad gets married to last person allegedly to have seen Haleigh alive. 17 year old girlfriend/babysitter Misty Croslin while a search of about 100 law enforcement officials was going on along U.S. Highway 17 north of Crescent City but nothing was found.

Supposedly investigators took the door from the home. Go figure! After everyone's already touched it including reporters. :unsure:

I think that's it. I wasn't happy with NG last night. She needs to get off Crystal. Crystal is doing what she should've done early on but yet Nancy keeps harping on her attorney. In the meantime she blows off Ron's wedding as no big deal.

GRACE: And the family is saying this is what little Haleigh wanted. She wanted them to be married. I know the timing is a little off, but so be it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ng.01.html


Nancy, if you're reading here, I am one of your biggest fans but you are way off on this one. There is not one single person in this family who has Haleigh's best interest at heart. It's all about THEM!

Where's Haleigh?

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 07:33 AM
Good Morning,

Yes today at 7:30 from what I read.

"The couple is schedule to appear on NBC's "Today" show at 7:30 a.m. Friday. It will be shown on WESH 2."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/


Yesterday's highlights:

Dad gets married to last person allegedly to have seen Haleigh alive. 17 year old girlfriend/babysitter Misty Croslin while a search of about 100 law enforcement officials was going on along U.S. Highway 17 north of Crescent City but nothing was found.

Supposedly investigators took the door from the home. Go figure! After everyone's already touched it including reporters. :unsure:

I think that's it. I wasn't happy with NG last night. She needs to get off Crystal. Crystal is doing what she should've done early on but yet Nancy keeps harping on her attorney. In the meantime she blows off Ron's wedding as no big deal.

GRACE: And the family is saying this is what little Haleigh wanted. She wanted them to be married. I know the timing is a little off, but so be it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ng.01.html


Nancy, if you're reading here, I am one of your biggest fans but you are way off on this one. There is not one single person in this family who has Haleigh's best interest at heart. It's all about THEM!

Where's Haleigh?


AWESOME, Thank you :thumbup:

I'm already in front of the tv :)

Hope for Haleigh
Beachpatty

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 07:37 AM
You mean NG actually covered something other than Casey Anthony? I'm shocked!!!

I haven't been watching her lately because it's usually about Anthony. Which wouldn't be too bad, IF she had something new to say every now and then.

n/t
03-13-2009, 07:46 AM
You mean NG actually covered something other than Casey Anthony? I'm shocked!!!

I haven't been watching her lately because it's usually about Anthony. Which wouldn't be too bad, IF she had something new to say every now and then.

That's not entirely true. She usually starts off with Casey Anthony case but she does go on to other news later on in her show. Last night she discussed Haleigh and I believe the night before she had the Alabama shooting and Drew Peterson.

I guess it all depends on the breaking news. I much prefer NG to JVM because when she discusses a case, she usually allows a good half hour whereas JVM has so much on her plate that nothing really is discussed in detail.

That's just me though. :smile:

n/t
03-13-2009, 07:49 AM
I guess a child's disappearance gives one more time to do other things....like get married. I don't get her statement at all. :confused:

"Cummings' mother told WESH 2 that they're having the wedding now because they didn't have time before."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 07:52 AM
You mean NG actually covered something other than Casey Anthony? I'm shocked!!!

I haven't been watching her lately because it's usually about Anthony. Which wouldn't be too bad, IF she had something new to say every now and then.

Greta's was pre-recorded also. She said they did not get married!

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 08:01 AM
Just saw Ronald and Misty in the Today studio.

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 08:02 AM
Greta's was pre-recorded also. She said they did not get married!


They just showed a clip of the wedding on my local news channel - Ft. Myers.
:cuss:


Today is comming on now, they just showed them....
barf


At least Haleigh has us here, Hope for Haleigh:wub:
Beachpatty

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 08:03 AM
Just saw Ronald and Misty in the Today studio.


Sorry for the ditto post - we were posting at the same time!

Hope for Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

n/t
03-13-2009, 08:04 AM
Greta's was pre-recorded also. She said they did not get married!

Greta is obviously wrong because it's all over the news today. They didn't get married at the Church but they apparently got married in grandma's backyard.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:05 AM
WTH? I agree. What is that supposed to mean?

I guess a child's disappearance gives one more time to do other things....like get married. I don't get her statement at all. :confused:

"Cummings' mother told WESH 2 that they're having the wedding now because they didn't have time before."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 08:22 AM
Ronald looks very nice this morning!

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 08:30 AM
Ronald looks very nice this morning!

No comment!

Hope for Haleigh:wub:
Beachpatty

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 08:34 AM
The reporter on the today show just said that "they" (LE?) are now saying there are inconsistencies in misty's story.!!!

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:34 AM
First time I am hearing about all this "concern" from the LE regarding Misty.

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 08:35 AM
And can I say that Ron does not look happy at all in any of these wedding videos. Misty's smiling about shoving cake in his mouth and he just looks like he sounded in the 911 call. jmo

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 08:36 AM
The reporter on the today show just said that "they" (LE?) are now saying there are inconsistencies in misty's story.!!!

Wonder if LE told Ronald about the "inconsistencies" before the wedding?

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:37 AM
Maybe he was yelling at you because he thinks things that you say don't make sense either!

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 08:40 AM
They are not even touching! you would think having to hurry and marry cuz they are so in love that he would at least twine fingers w/ her. Oh did you all see her eyes darting when meridith asked why all the inconsistencies?? She waitied for ron to jump in and stumbled to say i dont know!!!

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:41 AM
YES! I totally saw her looking for him to jump in and save her.

I don't know man. After this here interview I really don't know about Misty and her story anymore. I questioned it somewhat before but now, just wow.

They are not even touching! you would think having to hurry and marry cuz they are so in love that he would at least twine fingers w/ her. Oh did you all see her eyes darting when meridith asked why all the inconsistencies?? She waitied for ron to jump in and stumbled to say i dont know!!!

kOOkie1
03-13-2009, 08:42 AM
Yes Ronald your personal life is everyone's business right now while your daughter is missing..scheech!!!!!!

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 08:42 AM
They are not even touching! you would think having to hurry and marry cuz they are so in love that he would at least twine fingers w/ her. Oh did you all see her eyes darting when meridith asked why all the inconsistencies?? She waitied for ron to jump in and stumbled to say i dont know!!!

She is just a young girl and probably thought they would be talking about the wedding. I am surprised at the way she was questioned on Today.

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 08:42 AM
My 8 yr old just said that little girl (misty) looks shady!!! Amen to the truth children speak.

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 08:45 AM
She is just a young girl and probably thought they would be talking about the wedding. I am surprised at the way she was questioned on Today.
But they wouldnt be there if it werent for his child being missing. This is only about Hayleigh not misty's pretend marraige. JMO

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 08:46 AM
O boy, Misty sure looks guilty of something and someone needs to let her know that "I don't know" is not an acceptable answer, especially when it concerns a missing child, not "who ate the last cookie?" or something. She appeared. to me, to look relieved, like she is "safe" now that they are married.

My hinky meter went off the dial and flew out the window with that interview!

MOO
More Hope for Haleigh:wub:
Beachpatty

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:50 AM
Misty says she walked out because this new investigator was being too rough with her. Too accusatory. I say that's exactly what this case needs! Someone who will comes down hard on these people in hopes of getting some answers.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 08:51 AM
G'Mornin;
I missed most of yesterdays posts so I'll start this and catch up, then I'll come back here and catch up. You guys are busy & quick, at least there are some folks still worrying about Haleigh & where she is! The 3 ring circus going on over in the Satsuma area is becoming a bit over the top and really bizarre. Their CHILD is MISSING, what part of that don't they understand? The whole family has nothing but excuses for their behavior, they are all "victims", and they wallow in it.

Hope for Haleigh:wub:
BeachpattyGood morning Patty. TY for our morning thread. You are the best. Just watched the Happy couple on Today Show. I am still stunned and can not think of the words I "Feel" about this mess. I would be Banned for Life from the boards and CW would be justified.lol...I will go as far and say I think this interview was a BIG mistake for Ron and Misty. BIG MISTAKE...JMO:thumbdown:

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 08:51 AM
I am going to agree with Ronald that we need to get back to finding Haleigh.

We have discussed the personal lives of everyone involved ad naseum; now let's get back to the important matter of finding Haleigh.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 08:52 AM
Just got here.. good morning!! I was very aggravated by the end of last night over this wedding. Not sure how I'm gonna be feeling today. I caught that last few minutes of Ron and Misty on the today show. I want to watch the whole thing though. What did yous think? I thought he looked good. Didn't sound like the wedding was what he wanted to talk about.. probably because there is NOTHING that can be said to jusitfy it. One thing Misty said that was curious was when she was talking about going to bed, she said she went to bed at what time.. like she was questioning it herself? Said she got up at 3.. well was it 3 on the dot? I'm glad he didn't talk much about the wedding (less he did in the beginning but I missed it). He also said he talked to the detective and the detective said they do not suspect misty.. He didn't look to solid about that.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:53 AM
I think what bothers me the most of these two are their simple answers. No elaboration whatsoever. Just "I don't know.", "I was at work.", sitting there in silence when asked a question, etc. Those kinds of answers aren't good enough.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 08:54 AM
Misty says she walked out because this new investigator was being too rough with her. Too accusatory. I say that's exactly what this case needs! Someone who will comes down hard on these people in hopes of getting some answers.

I missed all that. How was her demeanor during that tallk? She seem suhhh very monotonous to me. Bland..

I agree, investigators need to come down hard..

Motomom
03-13-2009, 08:57 AM
My 8 yr old just said that little girl (misty) looks shady!!! Amen to the truth children speak.

I've posted previously what my 10 yr old says about this case. She thinks Misty did something.. that was the first thing she said when she started following along with me. Yesterday she's standing here and sees me reading about the wedding and says MOm, I don't understand why they would think about getting married when Haleigh is missing..

playnice
03-13-2009, 08:57 AM
Wow. I wish I could see this but at work.
I think he rush married her either because of Crystal getting an attorney and possible custody suit or he was afraid they would charge him with stat. rape.
Can you imagine if he married her and it comes out she lied and wasnt there or some other story? OMG what a nightmare.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 08:57 AM
Well, when asked why she walked out she got all snippy like and started saying how she didn't like the way the new guy was talking to her (yelling at her saying he didn't believe her) and so she just left and said she would talk to the guys she has already been dealing with but not this new one.

YEAH RIGHT! You don't get say over that Misty!

I missed all that. How was her demeanor during that tallk? She seem suhhh very monotonous to me. Bland..

I agree, investigators need to come down hard..

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:00 AM
I still don't know if I believe Misty did something to Haleigh herself. BUT, I do think either she wasn't there when she went missing, or that she saw who came in to take her and allowed it (out of fear maybe?). But something definitely is not right with her story.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:01 AM
LOL Yeah I know what you mean. Things do seem to go fast around here. Board has been moving
pretty fast ever since the BIG new of the Wedding which took place in back yard. Happy couple then flew to New York for "Honeymoon" provided by the Today Show.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 09:02 AM
Wow. I wish I could see this but at work.
I think he rush married her either because of Crystal getting an attorney and possible custody suit or he was afraid they would charge him with stat. rape.
Can you imagine if he married her and it comes out she lied and wasnt there or some other story? OMG what a nightmare.

What a nightmare is right. IF she had anything to do with this, I hope that she isnt' home alone with ron when he catchs wind of it.. I think she'll be dead if that happens.. What ron said on the 911.. I beleive

Did they talk about the custody of junior at all? anyone know?

playnice
03-13-2009, 09:03 AM
If they told her they didnt believe her then she DID NOT pass those polys.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:04 AM
No talk of custody. But Ron was asked about Jr and what he said about a man in black. And Ron pretty much made it sound like he didn't believe Jr actually said that. And when the host asked him about his comment he just said something like "I don't know. I was at work so I can't say for sure."

What a nightmare is right. IF she had anything to do with this, I hope that she isnt' home alone with ron when he catchs wind of it.. I think she'll be dead if that happens.. What ron said on the 911.. I beleive

Did they talk about the custody of junior at all? anyone know?

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:05 AM
Good morning everyone. Well, LE have finally disclosed that they are having a problem with misty's timeline.

I can't imagine them having a problem with it.

/sarcasm

:rolleyes:

I guess the good news (if there is any) is that now Misty is a married woman (in the eyes of the law), not the babysitter slash girlfriend that needs to be handled with kid gloves.

JMO

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:08 AM
Misty says she walked out because this new investigator was being too rough with her. Too accusatory. I say that's exactly what this case needs! Someone who will comes down hard on these people in hopes of getting some answers.

She walked out of a police interview??????

:w00t:

playnice
03-13-2009, 09:13 AM
I hope Ron doesnt end up regretting he didnt go with his first instinct, "How did you lose my daughter and why didnt you call 911."
Something to that efffect.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:15 AM
Good Morning,

Yes today at 7:30 from what I read.

"The couple is schedule to appear on NBC's "Today" show at 7:30 a.m. Friday. It will be shown on WESH 2."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/


Yesterday's highlights:

Dad gets married to last person allegedly to have seen Haleigh alive. 17 year old girlfriend/babysitter Misty Croslin while a search of about 100 law enforcement officials was going on along U.S. Highway 17 north of Crescent City but nothing was found.

Supposedly investigators took the door from the home. Go figure! After everyone's already touched it including reporters. :unsure:

I think that's it. I wasn't happy with NG last night. She needs to get off Crystal. Crystal is doing what she should've done early on but yet Nancy keeps harping on her attorney. In the meantime she blows off Ron's wedding as no big deal.

GRACE: And the family is saying this is what little Haleigh wanted. She wanted them to be married. I know the timing is a little off, but so be it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ng.01.html


Nancy, if you're reading here, I am one of your biggest fans but you are way off on this one. There is not one single person in this family who has Haleigh's best interest at heart. It's all about THEM!

Where's Haleigh? What a great post n/t. I also have watched NG (aka The Bulldog) for years and cannot understand what is going on with her with this case. She is, for some reason, siding with TN and family and SO against Crystal. I was so shocked by her LAST WORDS on the show last night..."So be it." Thats it????? NEVER would Nancy have left it by saying what she did. She appears to be taking sides in this case and especially TN. jmo:confused:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:19 AM
She sure did. For the reasons I mentioned in a previous post.

She walked out of a police interview??????

:w00t:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:23 AM
Ooopps. Sorry. I posted a link to the Today show thinking it was today's show but it wasn't. Sorry.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:23 AM
That's not entirely true. She usually starts off with Casey Anthony case but she does go on to other news later on in her show. Last night she discussed Haleigh and I believe the night before she had the Alabama shooting and Drew Peterson.

I guess it all depends on the breaking news. I much prefer NG to JVM because when she discusses a case, she usually allows a good half hour whereas JVM has so much on her plate that nothing really is discussed in detail.

That's just me though. :smile:NOT just you n/t...I have the same feelings. I think it so funny when Jane gets scared if a guest makes a statement and Jane is scared SHE or CNN might be sued for what was said. :smile:

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:25 AM
Just saw Ronald and Misty in the Today studio.And..what was your impression of the Happy Couple and the interview?

n/t
03-13-2009, 09:25 AM
What a great post n/t. I also have watched NG (aka The Bulldog) for years and cannot understand what is going on with her with this case. She is, for some reason, siding with TN and family and SO against Crystal. I was so shocked by her LAST WORDS on the show last night..."So be it." Thats it????? NEVER would Nancy have left it by saying what she did. She appears to be taking sides in this case and especially TN. jmo:confused:


I don't understand her stance on this case either. I think she feels sorry for TN. Personally, I don't think she believes Misty's story.

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 09:25 AM
I still don't know if I believe Misty did something to Haleigh herself. BUT, I do think either she wasn't there when she went missing, or that she saw who came in to take her and allowed it (out of fear maybe?). But something definitely is not right with her story.



ITA Misty knows more than she is saying. I wonder if it also had something to do with Ron, like maybe a drug deal gone bad, or a payback for something, like maybe he wasn't there but knows what happened and knows Misty is protecting him, too? He does not look all that happy to be married, and there is certainly a lack of emotion for Misty.

My hubby walked thru (my lobby, our living room is huge, I feel like I'm in a hotel lobby), he looked at Misty and said "she got married"? she looks like she's 12".

When the camera was on her alone and Meredith had asked the question about why her stories were different, she was obviously waiting for Ron to rescue her, when he didn't, all she could say was "I don't know"??

I hope the new investigator, that she doesn't like, sticks with his questioning, with them publicly saying there were inconsistencies, just maybe they are on the right track now.

Hope for Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

3Monkeys
03-13-2009, 09:26 AM
I watched the interview this morning, and one thing is for sure, if my hinky meter for Misty wasn't high before, it's now headed off the chart.

The single statement of 'I don't know', when asked about her inconsistencies is what did it for me.

We learned a bit more about LE's thought on Misty, and - maybe it's just me that didn't know this - that the church disapproved of the wedding, and that's why it wasn't performed there (I thought it was because the officiants paperwork wasn't in order).

Finally, Ronald did state during this interview that LE advised him that Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance (paraphrasing). Hmmm... not sure what to make of that statement.

All JMO.

n/t
03-13-2009, 09:27 AM
Morning Cry! Did you see the interview this morning? misty did not come off well, imo. There should be a video posted on The Today Show site soon, well worth watching.

Can't wait to see it. I had to leave for work earlier than usual this morning so I didn't get to watch.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:27 AM
Today Show Video from today.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:28 AM
Morning Cry! Did you see the interview this morning? misty did not come off well, imo. There should be a video posted on The Today Show site soon, well worth watching.


I didn't get to see it when it came on. Yes, I will watch the video as soon as it's posted.

Misty hasn't come off well since 2/9. That's the problem so many of US have with her.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:31 AM
I watched the interview this morning, and one thing is for sure, if my hinky meter for Misty wasn't high before, it's now headed off the chart.

The single statement of 'I don't know', when asked about her inconsistencies is what did it for me.

We learned a bit more about LE's thought on Misty, and - maybe it's just me that didn't know this - that the church disapproved of the wedding, and that's why it wasn't performed there (I thought it was because the officiants paperwork wasn't in order).

Finally, Ronald did state during this interview that LE advised him that Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance (paraphrasing). Hmmm... not sure what to make of that statement.

All JMO.

Yeah, but remember he also said (the first week) that he and Misty both passed their LDT's with "flying colors".

I guess Misty's was so good that they called her back in for a second one? Or maybe a third?

n/t
03-13-2009, 09:31 AM
Today Show Video from today.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

LOL that was quick. Thank you! :smile:

Rigeljo
03-13-2009, 09:32 AM
Wow. I wish I could see this but at work.
I think he rush married her either because of Crystal getting an attorney and possible custody suit or he was afraid they would charge him with stat. rape.
Can you imagine if he married her and it comes out she lied and wasnt there or some other story? OMG what a nightmare.

My ex did so much of the same crap after we split. He was charged with stat. rape and married his minor girlfriend to keep her from testifying against him....Although there was still plenty of evidence. She was pregnant and the baby was his, but his attorney was able to get a plea deal. The whole situation was sick. This case really hits close to home for me.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:33 AM
You are welcome!!!!! :biggrin:

LOL that was quick. Thank you! :smile:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:35 AM
Watching the interview again I just want to slap that girl. Uggghhh! I hate the way she shakes her head back and forth with an attitude when she talks. :sneaky:

StickyBeak
03-13-2009, 09:36 AM
Oh the blanket again. Misty, "I washed OUR Blanket", I thought it was Haleighs blanket or is that in the van. Confused
She was definitely looking to Ron for the correct answer to inconsistent answers, JMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:41 AM
I guess a child's disappearance gives one more time to do other things....like get married. I don't get her statement at all. :confused:

"Cummings' mother told WESH 2 that they're having the wedding now because they didn't have time before."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657260/I missed the statement by TN and its a good to know that NOW that 1 child is out of the way they have alittle more time to do things they have been wanting to do and just could not find the time to do them with 2 children...?? WTH did that statement mean? This case is getting worse by the day very similar to KCA case and I thought we would NEVER see another case like that one...but...here we are. Last week this case was getting cold w/very little coverage from the media/Our Shows/Public/Boards...then I posted we needed some JUICE in this case to get it back UPFRONT and Ron and Misty gave us just that. Wedding proposal..Wedding..Honeymoon in New York...Big Time interview on Today Show....Yep..they have much more time now. WHERE IS HAELIGH? jmo:cursing:

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 09:42 AM
Interview just aired, central time..

Did I hear the reporter say that LE is satisfied that Ron doesn't know or wasn't involved in haleigh's disappearance???

StickyBeak
03-13-2009, 09:44 AM
Oh Boy

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/13/news/news01.txt

snipped from article

"Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said.

Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:44 AM
No comment!

Hope for Haleigh:wub:
BeachpattyDitto..:w00t:

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:46 AM
Today Show Video from today.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

OMG

The investigator was just a big ol' meanie being all rude to Misty. So she walks out.

Jiminy Christmas

You have got to watch this in full screen if you can. Pay close attention to the body language and the eyes.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:46 AM
The reporter on the today show just said that "they" (LE?) are now saying there are inconsistencies in misty's story.!!!Just heard that as well Toby. I wounder why they came out with that statement today? Very interesting indeed. :confused:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:47 AM
Just watch it here:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

A very good body language expert said that is a sure sign the person is lying. She is shaking her head no. She did it on GVS. Waiting for Today to start here!!

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 09:50 AM
Oh the blanket again. Misty, "I washed OUR Blanket", I thought it was Haleighs blanket or is that in the van. Confused
She was definitely looking to Ron for the correct answer to inconsistent answers, JMO

And here is her big chance on "national TeeVee" to tell a coherent story about what happened and she still says she noticed the kitchen light on BEFORE she notices Haleigh missing from her bed.

She would have had to look at Haleigh's bed as soon as her feet hit the floor - unless she stood up backwards.

This is unbelievable.

More blanket stories. This is why they can't "break" her. She's so rehearsed that all she has to do is tell the same story over and over again.

Rigeljo
03-13-2009, 09:52 AM
I guess they are just really young and maybe not the brightest. Ron is upset that people keep bringing up his personal life and that his personal life has nothing to do with his daughter missing.....And if Haleigh wanted them married so much, why not wait til they know what happened and/or til she is home safe......And it was also said that they have wanted to do this for a long time......Haven't they been together only 6 months.....This is so bizarre.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:52 AM
They are not even touching! you would think having to hurry and marry cuz they are so in love that he would at least twine fingers w/ her. Oh did you all see her eyes darting when meridith asked why all the inconsistencies?? She waitied for ron to jump in and stumbled to say i dont know!!!That statement caught that kid completely OFF Guard and she just did not have a clue. I really believe(and honestly not making fun at Misty) Misty did NOT know what "inconsistencies" meant. My quess would be Florida LE was all eyes and ears on this interview. BIG mistake on Ron and Misty's part. Maybe..just maybe..they should NOT have jumped at the chance for a New York Honeymoon and a Today Show interview. What ya think?? All JMO.:rolleyes:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:54 AM
I sure wish they'd allow us to interview them. We'd ask the hard questions and force them to elaborate on their answers.

RainyNiteNTx
03-13-2009, 09:54 AM
My BIL had a heart attack and clinically died 4 times before he got to the hospital. To this day my sister who is much older than Misty cannot recall certain details of that day. Her "story" has changed as she has recalled certain events that triggered her memory. She can't remember how she knew the number to call me at work - come to find out, SHE didn't call me - her grandson did. Thankfully my BIL survived.

I just wonder if the traumatic events of that night have more to do with Misty's inconsistencies than a deliberate act to hurt Haleigh. JAT

Ron and Misty both looked miserable to me in that interview.

MrLucky917B
03-13-2009, 09:56 AM
LOL that was quick. Thank you! :smile:

Misty knows a lot more than she is saying, they made a mistake by taking the free trip to New York.

JMO

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 09:57 AM
Again, it sounded to me like the reporter, prior to the interview, stated that LE does not believe Ron knows anything about Haleigh's disappearance..

Then, she goes on to talk about spousal priviledge, that I thought we had all figured out was not an option???

wish i had dvr'd??

RainyNiteNTx
03-13-2009, 09:58 AM
What traumatic events? As far as Misty says she was in a deep sleep.

Waking up and finding Haleigh gone would be traumatic IMO.

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 09:58 AM
Just heard that as well Toby. I wounder why they came out with that statement today? Very interesting indeed. :confused:

The quickie marraige, the door taken off, the searches, the LE coming out w/ that statement, misty walked out of the interview w/ LE wednsday (imo cuz she got her reward by way of the wedding) so she's feeling very cocky, ron looking not at all happy re: this wedding or anything to do w/ it, not touching in todays interview, ron not coming to misty's rescue when the questions got hard..... All very good signs to me that something has got to break soon. I keep going back and forth re: ron. I would say by his body language that he does not want to be married IMO I'm hoping he did it to try and get her to crack. Look how satisfied (even happy) misty is. Ron looks miserable as well he should but the quickie wedding has thrown me. JMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 09:59 AM
Yes Ronald your personal life is everyone's business right now while your daughter is missing..scheech!!!!!!His 5 year old little girl dissapeared without a trace from her bed in the middle of the night w/NO forced entry into the house and he can not figure out WHY his life and his business is being discussed and IS the bussiness of LE and has MUCH to do with this case. OMG...What is wrong with ALL these people? :cursing:

Motomom
03-13-2009, 09:59 AM
Today Show Video from today.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

Thank you Swinefeld for posting the link. Stilll absorbing it all. I dont think this interview put Ron in a bad light at all.. Misty Im not so sure. Now that shes married, shes a big girl IMO... let the investigaters at her.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 09:59 AM
Watch it here:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

Again, it sounded to me like the reporter, prior to the interview, stated that LE does not believe Ron knows anything about Haleigh's disappearance..

Then, she goes on to talk about spousal priviledge, that I thought we had all figured out was not an option???

wish i had dvr'd??

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 10:00 AM
It sounds like LE has been handling Misty w/kid gloves, and have now thrown them to the ground....Why would they not have done this before...I realize she's a minor....but....sounds like they were the good cop for too long....just now becoming the bad cop...ie..hammering her

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:00 AM
Ohhh ok. Well, thankfully you don't have long to wait huh?

Thaks so much Swine but I cannot get those either......in minutes I will get it.......goody!.......DVR SET!!

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 10:01 AM
Watch it here:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

thanks....

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:03 AM
She is just a young girl and probably thought they would be talking about the wedding. I am surprised at the way she was questioned on Today.With Respect Girl...What did she think she was going on the Today Show for? Why do you believe they were INVITED on the Show? Just to talk about their wedding? Better question yet..Why do you think they were on the Today Show? Just curious...and JMO

dixielover
03-13-2009, 10:03 AM
I haven't followed this case very closely but the first time I heard that they were getting married - I thought that they did it because they would not have to testify against each other. I also think it is strange that Ron said he did want anyone looking at his personal life but they tape a proposal, wedding and honeymoon for all to see. Ya'll are nicer than I am, because I do not believe a word they say. I don't believe the timeline or the story. He reminds me of my abusive ex husband - very controlling. I love him constantly saying- I don't know- I was at work!! IMO something extremely wrong here jmo

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:03 AM
I think by now, and after having given her plenty of LDT's, they have a right to be harder with her. They would if it were anyone else and any other case. Maybe that's what they need to do to make her break? I think if they do start being harder on her it won't take long before they get some useful info.

It sounds like LE has been handling Misty w/kid gloves, and have now thrown them to the ground....Why would they not have done this before...I realize she's a minor....but....sounds like they were the good cop for too long....just now becoming the bad cop...ie..hammering her

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:04 AM
Watching the interview again I just want to slap that girl. Uggghhh! I hate the way she shakes her head back and forth with an attitude when she talks. :sneaky:

I agree. I think it is her age though. At 17 its sometimes all about them. You'd think that she'd realize how serious this case is. Her walking out of the LE interview suggests that it may be a game to her IMO. How dare she walk out of that interview when it's to find that little girl. I wonder what Ron thought about that? He does NOT look sure about her IMO. I can't put my finger on it. He did not look happy at the wedding, when shes shoving cake in his mouth, shes giddy, he is not.. Something is wrong IMO.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:05 AM
Oh the blanket again. Misty, "I washed OUR Blanket", I thought it was Haleighs blanket or is that in the van. Confused
She was definitely looking to Ron for the correct answer to inconsistent answers, JMO

Yeah, I notice her looking at him and his head down. I'm glad he didnt' chime in. I believe him, he wasn't there. He cant answer with honesty if he wasn't there.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:05 AM
My 8 yr old just said that little girl (misty) looks shady!!! Amen to the truth children speak. Just goes to show you Toby...children can pick up on certain things better than some adults...jmo

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:06 AM
Interview just aired, central time..

Did I hear the reporter say that LE is satisfied that Ron doesn't know or wasn't involved in haleigh's disappearance???

Yes you did.

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 10:07 AM
I think by now, and after having given her plenty of LDT's, they have a right to be harder with her. They would if it were anyone else and any other case. Maybe that's what they need to do to make her break? I think if they do start being harder on her it won't take long before they get some useful info.

Yep..That's what I was getting at. But, the investigators, have to gain their trust, to a certain degree. It has been over a month. While I don't agree that the cops should be abusive, but they aren't going to get what they want, until they press the heck out of her....imo

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:08 AM
OMG

The investigator was just a big ol' meanie being all rude to Misty. So she walks out.

Jiminy Christmas

You have got to watch this in full screen if you can. Pay close attention to the body language and the eyes.

Cry I tried to see pick up on her body language and eyes but all I see is a blank stare it seems. she hardly moves her lips (Ron does this too IMO).. she shows no emotion and when she gets nervous about a question she looks to him..

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:09 AM
O boy, Misty sure looks guilty of something and someone needs to let her know that "I don't know" is not an acceptable answer, especially when it concerns a missing child, not "who ate the last cookie?" or something. She appeared. to me, to look relieved, like she is "safe" now that they are married.

My hinky meter went off the dial and flew out the window with that interview!

MOO
More Hope for Haleigh:wub:
Beachpatty How about that Patty..Your hinky meter is still working really good. Dear me..I still am shaking my head more now than ever.jmo

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 10:10 AM
Yes you did.

The reporter was talking as if spousal priviledge might come in to play....I thought we had figured out that anything before the marraige, or involving a child threw that out the window??

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:11 AM
That statement caught that kid completely OFF Guard and she just did not have a clue. I really believe(and honestly not making fun at Misty) Misty did NOT know what "inconsistencies" meant. My quess would be Florida LE was all eyes and ears on this interview. BIG mistake on Ron and Misty's part. Maybe..just maybe..they should NOT have jumped at the chance for a New York Honeymoon and a Today Show interview. What ya think?? All JMO.:rolleyes:

They jumped for the interview, not a "honeymoon" IMO. I dont' think it was a mistake at all to go on here. It did not put Ron in a bad light IMO.. but it sure makes me and just about everyone else question Misty that much more. Ron wants to find his daughter.. I believe that. Misty walked out on an LE interview, I dont think she wants her found as much as he does.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:11 AM
Yes, you are probably right about it being her age.

As for her walking out, she needs to get serious about this and quick. She should have been all along. It's not like a puppy is missing for goodness sakes! It's a human being!

I agree about Ron. Something is wrong.

I agree. I think it is her age though. At 17 its sometimes all about them. You'd think that she'd realize how serious this case is. Her walking out of the LE interview suggests that it may be a game to her IMO. How dare she walk out of that interview when it's to find that little girl. I wonder what Ron thought about that? He does NOT look sure about her IMO. I can't put my finger on it. He did not look happy at the wedding, when shes shoving cake in his mouth, shes giddy, he is not.. Something is wrong IMO.

Rigeljo
03-13-2009, 10:12 AM
Misty and Ron continue to state that they passed LDTs...But....Has anyone heard anyone of authority in the investigation state that ? The last "expert" I heard on HLN stated that it the tests are sent away and take time to decipher.

destiny1
03-13-2009, 10:13 AM
thanks....

did anyone notice that as he said "I love You" to Hayleigh, immediately, his eyes shifted to the left.

IlliniFan
03-13-2009, 10:13 AM
It seems pretty evident that Misty is not being honest about something the night that Haleigh vanished, but what motive would she have to be part of Haleigh's abduction unless she is covering for Ron??:confused:

Just my opinion, I have always thought she left to party that night, and maybe didn't have a key. I bet the doors were left unlocked...Although, if she was partying, surely someone could verify that..

And,,,I can't imagine Ron would cover for her, if he is the controlling kind of guy many think he is??

perplexed..

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:14 AM
What traumatic events? As far as Misty says she was in a deep sleep.


ITA. Or, she hasn't talked truthfully about what actual traumatic events happened.

destiny1
03-13-2009, 10:14 AM
I don't believe he had a hand in her disappearance, but I do believe that he knows something.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:14 AM
Misty says she walked out because this new investigator was being too rough with her. Too accusatory. I say that's exactly what this case needs! Someone who will comes down hard on these people in hopes of getting some answers. You could be right Swinefeld...Maybe they have been using kid gloves w/Misty because of her age. Haleigh DESERVES Answers.....Haleigh DESERVES to come first...Haleigh DESERVES to be found. To He77 with everything and everyone else. jmo:cursing:

Former Juror
03-13-2009, 10:15 AM
:mellow:They jumped for the interview, not a "honeymoon" IMO. I dont' think it was a mistake at all to go on here. It did not put Ron in a bad light IMO.. but it sure makes me and just about everyone else question Misty that much more. Ron wants to find his daughter.. I believe that. Misty walked out on an LE interview, I dont think she wants her found as much as he does.

That's probably true. So, WHY did he marry her?

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:15 AM
I guess they are just really young and maybe not the brightest. Ron is upset that people keep bringing up his personal life and that his personal life has nothing to do with his daughter missing.....And if Haleigh wanted them married so much, why not wait til they know what happened and/or til she is home safe......And it was also said that they have wanted to do this for a long time......Haven't they been together only 6 months.....This is so bizarre.


If he doesn't want his personal life dissected then he shouldn't televise his personal life on national television. As far as I'm concerned that makes him fair game.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Like I said before, I personally think she wasn't home when she went missing or that she was and saw her being abducted but was too afraid to do anything (maybe she was in the bed and saw what was happening but just stayed still and quiet out of fear?).

And, if it were under either of those circumstances or something similar, she's probably afraid to say so out of fear that she will get blamed. JMO

It seems pretty evident that Misty is not being honest about something the night that Haleigh vanished, but what motive would she have to be part of Haleigh's abduction unless she is covering for Ron??:confused:

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:16 AM
My BIL had a heart attack and clinically died 4 times before he got to the hospital. To this day my sister who is much older than Misty cannot recall certain details of that day. Her "story" has changed as she has recalled certain events that triggered her memory. She can't remember how she knew the number to call me at work - come to find out, SHE didn't call me - her grandson did. Thankfully my BIL survived.

I just wonder if the traumatic events of that night have more to do with Misty's inconsistencies than a deliberate act to hurt Haleigh. JAT

Ron and Misty both looked miserable to me in that interview.

I wanted to ask about memory. I have a very good memory..yet when I'm trying to think of exactly how the championship game my daughter played in went, with the score... I cant get it right. It seems the more I think on it, the more confused I get. Yet I watched every minute of it, and took note in my head on who got the first goal.. the second etc etc.. the time on the clock..yet now Its foggy. But a game is just a game, I'd like to think that had my child been stolen I'd remember every detail. Is it normal to " not know" when you were there? Or maybe when you know what has happened, but you dont like the details you get mixed up and forget what the original "story " is..or was suppose to be?

Rigeljo
03-13-2009, 10:16 AM
The reporter was talking as if spousal priviledge might come in to play....I thought we had figured out that anything before the marraige, or involving a child threw that out the window??

He can be charged for anything prior to the marriage, but she will not have to testify because they are now married. So, the "star witness" so to speak, will not get on the stand and unless she is pregnant and paternity is proven or there is an eye witness, it is all guessing. Now, if Misty admitted in her early interviews that there is a sexual relationship, that could be used.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:17 AM
Just got here.. good morning!! I was very aggravated by the end of last night over this wedding. Not sure how I'm gonna be feeling today. I caught that last few minutes of Ron and Misty on the today show. I want to watch the whole thing though. What did yous think? I thought he looked good. Didn't sound like the wedding was what he wanted to talk about.. probably because there is NOTHING that can be said to jusitfy it. One thing Misty said that was curious was when she was talking about going to bed, she said she went to bed at what time.. like she was questioning it herself? Said she got up at 3.. well was it 3 on the dot? I'm glad he didn't talk much about the wedding (less he did in the beginning but I missed it). He also said he talked to the detective and the detective said they do not suspect misty.. He didn't look to solid about that.
Good morning to you mom..Good to see you on the boards Tell us what you think after you watch the entire interview. IMO..Big mistake. jmo:ohmy:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:17 AM
Yeah I did see that he looked down/away as he said that.

did anyone notice that as he said "I love You" to Hayleigh, immediately, his eyes shifted to the left.

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:18 AM
His 5 year old little girl dissapeared without a trace from her bed in the middle of the night w/NO forced entry into the house and he can not figure out WHY his life and his business is being discussed and IS the bussiness of LE and has MUCH to do with this case. OMG...What is wrong with ALL these people? :cursing:

ITA and in my experience it's only people who have things to hid that complain about everybody being in their business.

spageddy
03-13-2009, 10:18 AM
One possible scenario is that Haleigh is "Daddy's little girl", and even Misty states that whatever she got, Haleigh also had to have (the shoes, etc), so...

I think she was jealous of Haleigh and no longer wanted to share him. I also believe that the wedding was more Misty's idea than Ron's.

JMO
or maybe :glare:Daddy needs another "little girl"?

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:18 AM
Yes, unless she got up backwards, as you said, and went around the corner out the door because in the first walkthru of the trailer didn't the reporter say that you couldn't see the kitchen light until AFTER you were out of the bedroom? Or am I remembering that wrong?

I'm sure she could have seen a glow from her room. I dont find it odd that she didnt notice Haleigh gone until she noticed a light because the blanket could have been crumpled some, making it appear Haleigh was there.. or she just wasn't paying attention. Ever walk past something only to say.. oh snap.. and go back and look again not knowing how you missed something?

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:21 AM
I agree. The not noticing Haleigh missing from the bed at first doesn't bother me. Depending on how the covers were piled up, layed out on the bed, it could very eaily look like a body was under there.

I'm sure she could have seen a glow from her room. I dont find it odd that she didnt notice Haleigh gone until she noticed a light because the blanket could have been crumpled some, making it appear Haleigh was there.. or she just wasn't paying attention. Ever walk past something only to say.. oh snap.. and go back and look again not knowing how you missed something?

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:21 AM
I think what bothers me the most of these two are their simple answers. No elaboration whatsoever. Just "I don't know.", "I was at work.", sitting there in silence when asked a question, etc. Those kinds of answers aren't good enough.
Once again..you are right..the words "I was at work" seems to work for Ron. He has used that several times sice Haleigh went missing. Even on 911 call dispatcher asked what she was wearing and Ron (not exact quote) said How the ........would I know..I was at work. Those few little words seem to WORK for Ron. jmo:cursing:

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Ok. I still say that Ronald had nothing to do with Haleigh's abduction. I think he may truely believe Misty when she states she had nothing to do with the kidnapping. I also believe that Misty is full of it and had everything to do with the kidnapping. She just confirmed it for me with the way she acted on the Today show (BTW, thanks for posting the link to that). I think Crystal and her attorney are trying to take advantage of a bad situation, but I also believe that it will backfire if they base their argument on "Haleigh was taken on Ron's watch, so Jr. may also be in danger." What is that??! So, every person who has a child abducted should have their other children taken from them? Ridiculous, in my opinion. I think Misty holds the key to finding Haleigh, whether it be dead or alive. And Ron is in for a rude awakening once he finds out for sure she had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

JMO

I agree with everything you said liz... hope shes not home alone with Ron when he figures out she DOES know what has happend IMO

dixielover
03-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Can anyone tell me if Ron has another child (other than the little boy)- I thought I heard at the first of this case that he did. If he does- what is the age of that women jmo

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:23 AM
Ok. I still say that Ronald had nothing to do with Haleigh's abduction. I think he may truely believe Misty when she states she had nothing to do with the kidnapping. I also believe that Misty is full of it and had everything to do with the kidnapping. She just confirmed it for me with the way she acted on the Today show (BTW, thanks for posting the link to that). I think Crystal and her attorney are trying to take advantage of a bad situation, but I also believe that it will backfire if they base their argument on "Haleigh was taken on Ron's watch, so Jr. may also be in danger." What is that??! So, every person who has a child abducted should have their other children taken from them? Ridiculous, in my opinion. I think Misty holds the key to finding Haleigh, whether it be dead or alive. And Ron is in for a rude awakening once he finds out for sure she had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

JMO

Bolding mine - From what I know of women in power and control relationships I believe that Crystal was railroaded out of custody of the children and it's only now when she has the power to stand up to Ron and right that wrong. I don't know who should have custody - Ron got it by default and not through any sort of investigation into what was in the children's best interest.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Ok. I still say that Ronald had nothing to do with Haleigh's abduction. I think he may truely believe Misty when she states she had nothing to do with the kidnapping. I also believe that Misty is full of it and had everything to do with the kidnapping. She just confirmed it for me with the way she acted on the Today show (BTW, thanks for posting the link to that). I think Crystal and her attorney are trying to take advantage of a bad situation, but I also believe that it will backfire if they base their argument on "Haleigh was taken on Ron's watch, so Jr. may also be in danger." What is that??! So, every person who has a child abducted should have their other children taken from them? Ridiculous, in my opinion. I think Misty holds the key to finding Haleigh, whether it be dead or alive. And Ron is in for a rude awakening once he finds out for sure she had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

JMO

It wouldn't be because the "abduction" happened on Ron's watch. It will be because of his choice of caregivers who, as you say are "full of it and have everything to do with the kidnapping".

JMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Wow. I wish I could see this but at work.
I think he rush married her either because of Crystal getting an attorney and possible custody suit or he was afraid they would charge him with stat. rape.
Can you imagine if he married her and it comes out she lied and wasnt there or some other story? OMG what a nightmare. This is already a NIGHMARE and a cluster .......... :cursing:

Peaches
03-13-2009, 10:24 AM
My BIL had a heart attack and clinically died 4 times before he got to the hospital. To this day my sister who is much older than Misty cannot recall certain details of that day. Her "story" has changed as she has recalled certain events that triggered her memory. She can't remember how she knew the number to call me at work - come to find out, SHE didn't call me - her grandson did. Thankfully my BIL survived.

I just wonder if the traumatic events of that night have more to do with Misty's inconsistencies than a deliberate act to hurt Haleigh. JAT

Ron and Misty both looked miserable to me in that interview.


You statment is so true............when under pressure/stress, we all respond differently. I know that when I was at the hopsital under stress, I could not remember my own home phone number. When my neice went into labor much too early, she could not remember her parents phone number..........but, for some reason, she remembered mine. (Thankfully!)

I am glad to see that LE has at least said that they believe that Ron is innocent. moo

Anyway............yes, we all behave differently.

As I have said many, many times, I hope that no one HaLeigh loved and trusted did anything to hurt her.

Come home today HaLeigh!

Jinxie
03-13-2009, 10:25 AM
I am going to agree with Ronald that we need to get back to finding Haleigh.

We have discussed the personal lives of everyone involved ad naseum; now let's get back to the important matter of finding Haleigh.

Yes we do need to get back to haleigh and off the topic of their personal lives I agree! In any case IMO if they actually really believed or had any indication that Misty did something to Haleigh you can bet your bottom dollar they would not be married right now, and LE would never, ever have let her get on a plane to NY!

My uncle has been with the Chicago PD for close to 25 years and has worked homicide and missing persons and is well seasoned. His thoughts are that this is most definitely an inside job-someone close to the family or extended family with a motive. While he also says it is not RC or MC. He says he would be looking heavily at the bio-mom and her side of the family for many, many reasons.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 10:26 AM
You could be right Swinefeld...Maybe they have been using kid gloves w/Misty because of her age. Haleigh DESERVES Answers.....Haleigh DESERVES to come first...Haleigh DESERVES to be found. To He77 with everything and everyone else. jmo:cursing:

Absolutely and IMO its time to take the gloves off.. shes not a child and now that she's married.. Id say she is a big girl. I hope they bring her back in to the station as soon as she gets home from NY

Peaches
03-13-2009, 10:28 AM
The quickie marraige, the door taken off, the searches, the LE coming out w/ that statement, misty walked out of the interview w/ LE wednsday (imo cuz she got her reward by way of the wedding) so she's feeling very cocky, ron looking not at all happy re: this wedding or anything to do w/ it, not touching in todays interview, ron not coming to misty's rescue when the questions got hard..... All very good signs to me that something has got to break soon. I keep going back and forth re: ron. I would say by his body language that he does not want to be married IMO I'm hoping he did it to try and get her to crack. Look how satisfied (even happy) misty is. Ron looks miserable as well he should but the quickie wedding has thrown me. JMO



It is MOHO that Ron is grieving/hurting for his daughter. He loved his daughter very much....................I hope that she is found and that she is alive.

I do not think that Ron had anything to do with her disappearance.

MOO

3girls
03-13-2009, 10:30 AM
I really don't know what to think in this case. I do think that this marriage was a marriage of convience. They didn't look at one another when they were saying their vows. Didn't look at each other on the Today show. Why are they afraid to look each other in the eye?

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:30 AM
I don't believe he had a hand in her disappearance, but I do believe that he knows something.

ITA. I remember his original 911 call - how he said he was going to kill whoever did this. It was at that moment that I believed that he believed that somebody he had crossed (a bad drug deal?) had taken Haleigh and he was vowing revenge. I wonder how truthful he has been with LE about his enemies? He strikes me as the type of guy who wants to handle it on his own - that's where the protestations about not wanting people to be in his personal business come from.

Also, his talking about somebody taking his "property" - that's how abusers consider their girlfriends, children, as their property that they can do what they want with but God help anybody who messes with their property.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 10:33 AM
Yes we do need to get back to haleigh and off the topic of their personal lives I agree! In any case IMO if they actually really believed or had any indication that Misty did something to Haleigh you can bet your bottom dollar they would not be married right now, and LE would never, ever have let her get on a plane to NY!

My uncle has been with the Chicago PD for close to 25 years and has worked homicide and missing persons and is well seasoned. His thoughts are that this is most definitely an inside job-someone close to the family or extended family with a motive. While he also says it is not RC or MC. He says he would be looking heavily at the bio-mom and her side of the family for many, many reasons.

Short of an arrest (for which they would need some convincing evidence), how would they stop her from getting married or going to NY?

spageddy
03-13-2009, 10:33 AM
Once again..you are right..the words "I was at work" seems to work for Ron. He has used that several times sice Haleigh went missing. Even on 911 call dispatcher asked what she was wearing and Ron (not exact quote) said How the ........would I know..I was at work. Those few little words seem to WORK for Ron. jmo:cursing:

Yup- you are so right about that. Ron does seem to wave the "I was @ work" flag a lot. People wonder why LE can't break Mysti, I think it's because she IS so slow and seems not too bright. I can't explain that - and I'm not suggesting that she's faking her dopey demeaner- but I don't know... Sorry. I had a thought there, but I just can't put my finger on it. When it comes to Mysti, the girl just ain't right.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Yes, LE defintiely needs to come out and say who passed these LDT's and who hasn't thus far. It's confusing.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Wow, boy did that interview backfire, imo. The pastors of the church they originally wanted to get married in issued a statement "we do not agree with this union." When Ron was questioned in his mh about Misty putting Haleigh to bed, Ron says "that's what I was told by the police, by Misty, by everybody, but personally I don't know, I don't know what happened, I was at work." Police are now concerned about Misty's inconsistencies, specifically regarding the critical time around the night/morning that Haleigh disappeared. Police believe Ron that he really doesn't know what happened to his little girl.

Ronald still seemed indifferent to me today, why wasn't he wearing a find Haleigh shirt? Misty did at least, even though her jacket was mostly covering up Haleigh's face. The weird part for me was when Meredith was questioning Ron about Jr's story regarding the man in black when Ron finally says "I don't know I can't say I WAS AT WORK", once again giving weight to his alibi that he was at work, however why did he need to say that with regards to the man in black and what his child said? It DOESN'T make sensel.

I truly believe NBC bamboozled these two, they probably didn't even think NBC would have asked any of these questions. Both Ron and Misty stated they passed their ldt, yet the le says Misty has inconsistencies, so which is it? Did she pass her ldt or not?

moo

And any statement Jr. made wouldn't have been made while Ron was at work.

Peaches
03-13-2009, 10:35 AM
They jumped for the interview, not a "honeymoon" IMO. I dont' think it was a mistake at all to go on here. It did not put Ron in a bad light IMO.. but it sure makes me and just about everyone else question Misty that much more. Ron wants to find his daughter.. I believe that. Misty walked out on an LE interview, I dont think she wants her found as much as he does.


And.............I agree with everything you have posted here.

Also, there is no way that Misty loves HaLeigh as much as Ron.

moo

beachpatty
03-13-2009, 10:36 AM
did anyone notice that as he said "I love You" to Hayleigh, immediately, his eyes shifted to the left.


Yup, I did, it was like an involuntary reaction, I wonder what the body language specialists would say about that!

Hope for Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:37 AM
I agree. Concern should be about finding Haleigh. NOT who's gonna get or keep Jr.

And, like you said, if there was talk of abuse before, why wait until now to do something about it? I call BS.

Seems like everyone's priorities are out of order.

I am not saying that Crystal should not try for custody of her children. Everyone who loves their children should fight for them. But, I think that the timing is suspect. Why now? Why not when she was told Ron backhanded Haleigh? Why not before when she supposedly knew he was abusive? (I do not believe he is abusive, BTW, I just think he yells really loud and has a potty mouth).

That is my point, to take advantage of the situation is just as cold hearted as anything else that has been done and said.

Except Haleigh's abduction. Goes without saying that is the top cruel thing that could have been done.

JMO

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:38 AM
You statment is so true............when under pressure/stress, we all respond differently. I know that when I was at the hopsital under stress, I could not remember my own home phone number. When my neice went into labor much too early, she could not remember her parents phone number..........but, for some reason, she remembered mine. (Thankfully!)

I am glad to see that LE has at least said that they believe that Ron is innocent. moo
Anyway............yes, we all behave differently.

As I have said many, many times, I hope that no one HaLeigh loved and trusted did anything to hurt her.

Come home today HaLeigh!

Bolding mine - LE has actually used those words - Ron is innocent?

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:38 AM
She's either realy stupid or really gutsy to have done that. If you were really innocent, why would you walk out and complain about someone interrogating you too harshly? She should realize that everyone will be questioned this way and it's a good thing. LE HAS to get to the bottom of this.
Really stupid or gutsy??? Well ocean..I just don't know which..Is is possible this girl/young woman doesn't realize how serious ALL this is? Does she think it is normal for a little 5 year old to dissapear/vanish/be missing/GONE..NO LONGER HERE. She believe she can just "walk out on LE" because she thinks LE is too harsh with her..not treating her "nice".....wanting to get to the truth...wanting to FIND HALEIGH. OMG ..I am beyound words right now. Doesn't she get it..HALEIGH is missing...I can understand going on a "show" to get the word out there about this little girl..to get the country involved..to get HELP. But is she thought she was invited on the Today Show to talk about their beautiful wedding...I have said enough. jmo:thumbup::cursing:

Former Juror
03-13-2009, 10:39 AM
Yup, I did, it was like an involuntary reaction, I wonder what the body language specialists would say about that!

Hope for Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

During Scott Peterson's interviews, it was said that looking down and to the left means deception. Did he look down to the left?

I just watched the video of the marriage. Oh my goodness. Outside in front of a run-down trailer. Ron in a wrinkled red shirt and then a muscle shirt for the 'reception'. You can't make this stuff up.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 10:41 AM
I am not saying that Crystal should not try for custody of her children. Everyone who loves their children should fight for them. But, I think that the timing is suspect. Why now? Why not when she was told Ron backhanded Haleigh? Why not before when she supposedly knew he was abusive? (I do not believe he is abusive, BTW, I just think he yells really loud and has a potty mouth).

That is my point, to take advantage of the situation is just as cold hearted as anything else that has been done and said.

Except Haleigh's abduction. Goes without saying that is the top cruel thing that could have been done.

JMO

Maybe the "abduction" confirmed what she had been trying to get CPS to believe all along, that the children were not being properly cared for.

Then when CPS shows up, GGM Sykes, Teresa, and Misty have "cleaned up" and have CPS believe there's nothing to see here?

JMO and nothing else.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:42 AM
Too bad they didn't get paid to have it on "My Big Redneck Wedding." :unsure:

Ok, that was low and wrong of me. :wink:

During Scott Peterson's interviews, it was said that looking down and to the left means deception. Did he look down to the left?

I just watched the video of the marriage. Oh my goodness. Outside in front of a run-down trailer. Ron in a wrinkled red shirt and then a muscle shirt for the 'reception'. You can't make this stuff up.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 10:43 AM
Bolding mine - LE has actually used those words - Ron is innocent?

No

.............

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:44 AM
Yup- you are so right about that. Ron does seem to wave the "I was @ work" flag a lot. People wonder why LE can't break Mysti, I think it's because she IS so slow and seems not too bright. I can't explain that - and I'm not suggesting that she's faking her dopey demeaner- but I don't know... Sorry. I had a thought there, but I just can't put my finger on it. When it comes to Mysti, the girl just ain't right.

Bolding mine

I agree - it's like she's too slow to know what's in her best interest so she just denies everything.

royals02
03-13-2009, 10:45 AM
Can anyone tell me, did anyone (other than Misty ofcourse) see Haleigh after Ron supposedly went to work?

Former Juror
03-13-2009, 10:45 AM
Too bad they didn't get paid to have it on "My Big Redneck Wedding." :unsure:

Ok, that was low and wrong of me. :wink:

There's nothing wrong with speaking the truth. :) Class transcinds money and status and job title, etc., and IMO, I don't see any of these people with an ounce of class.

My heart breaks for poor Haleigh. She deserved better.

playnice
03-13-2009, 10:45 AM
It has been verified by LE that Ron was at work so him saying that isnt a lie :shrug:

Texas48
03-13-2009, 10:46 AM
I watched the interview this morning, and one thing is for sure, if my hinky meter for Misty wasn't high before, it's now headed off the chart.

The single statement of 'I don't know', when asked about her inconsistencies is what did it for me.

We learned a bit more about LE's thought on Misty, and - maybe it's just me that didn't know this - that the church disapproved of the wedding, and that's why it wasn't performed there (I thought it was because the officiants paperwork wasn't in order).

Finally, Ronald did state during this interview that LE advised him that Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance (paraphrasing). Hmmm... not sure what to make of that statement.

All JMO.Morning Monkey..Kinda like the statement Misty made in front of the court house day before they were married..Not exact..I (Misty) was home cause I passed the LDT. Go figure...jmo

FoxySly
03-13-2009, 10:48 AM
What a nightmare is right. IF she had anything to do with this, I hope that she isnt' home alone with ron when he catchs wind of it.. I think she'll be dead if that happens.. What ron said on the 911.. I beleive

Did they talk about the custody of junior at all? anyone know?

I'm still waiting for it to come on here but they have shown some teasers.

I agree that if Misty has anything to do with HaLeigh's missing I believe Ron will come undone on her big time.

My mind has only cleared two people close to this case & Misty is not one of them for the reason being she was the last one we know was with HaLeigh.

It's hard to think about someone being so young would get rid of a Child but anyone who follows true crime sadly knows it happens.

As jealous as Misty sounds in the myspace post is concerning to me. Just what if she was that jealous over HaLeigh, she was most definitely a Daddy's girl.
I know of a mother that poisoned her own Daughter 3 times (she lived) over the love & affection her husband had for his little girl.

I wish we had some info on why this 17 year old was not in school, what kind of parents now days don't make sure their Children don't at least get the basic free education?

Than there is the pesky Child support not being paid, another reason why many Children are killed.

My thoughts before my 2nd cup of coffee.

Sly

~

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:48 AM
No it isn't a lie. BUT, it would be nice if he could elaborate a little more when answering. Let us know what he really thinks, feels about this situation, people involved, etc. I hate that they all give such short, one line answers. It's like pulling teeth to get any info out of these people!

It has been verified by LE that Ron was at work so him saying that isnt a lie :shrug:

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:51 AM
It has been verified by LE that Ron was at work so him saying that isnt a lie :shrug:

No, but his responding "I was at work" is not an answer to the question he was asked about Jr.'s story about a man in black.

Money Girl
03-13-2009, 10:51 AM
With Respect Girl...What did she think she was going on the Today Show for? Why do you believe they were INVITED on the Show? Just to talk about their wedding? Better question yet..Why do you think they were on the Today Show? Just curious...and JMO

I think she thought they would talk about the wedding and then get to say the pleas for Haleigh to be returned. I watched the complete show and thought Ronald and Misty looked very happy in the very first shot at 7 a.m.

I think Ronald and Misty were completely shocked when just prior to Meredith's interview with them, the reporter on location in FL was shown in the first interview I have seen where LE states they are concerned about Misty's inconsistencies. Then, Meredith's interview was the first one where they did not get treated with kids' gloves (a la NG and GVS).

skylark
03-13-2009, 10:52 AM
Ron and Misty's interview consists very much of "one liners", just no elaboration on anything, yeah we know Ron " I was out working" and Misty "I dont know". Unbelieveable!!!!

Former Juror
03-13-2009, 10:52 AM
I'm still waiting for it to come on here but they have shown some teasers.

I agree that if Misty has anything to do with HaLeigh's missing I believe Ron will come undone on her big time.

SNIP

Sly

~

I don't agree with this for a second. Their relationship has obviously been very strained since Haleigh went missing, yet Ron married her. IMO, something else is at play here. I just haven't figured out what it is, yet.

royals02
03-13-2009, 10:55 AM
sorry to repeat my question...its just that I remember seeing Ron's mom in an earlier interview and her saying something to the effect of somebody in the family going over to Ron's house that night. BUT....did anyone actually see Haleigh after Ron left for work? If not....then you can see what I'm thinking

spageddy
03-13-2009, 10:55 AM
I believe that Ron, Misti and their families live in a world that is so different from most of ours, that we just can't make sense of them. Some things that seem so wrong to us- in their world- apparently is just fine & dandy. Which is why this case is baffling. Their demeanor, their culture...even their language sometimes is so hard to decipher. I'm trying not to be judgemental ( I said TRYING) - but I think that their culture adds a different dimension to the case. JMO MOO

TaraCrazyHair
03-13-2009, 10:56 AM
I watched the Today show interview and cannot wait for the "experts" to dissect these two.

They certainly did not appear to be so much in love ... they did not even hold hands which would have shown solidarity. Instead her hands are clasped in lap and his were defensively crossed the entire time.

Ron could not even look straight in the camera when he spoke about Haleigh and to Haleigh .. eyes kept shifting

Anyone looking at these two and this case for the first time must be asking lots of questions

TobyWong
03-13-2009, 10:57 AM
No it isn't a lie. BUT, it would be nice if he could elaborate a little more when answering. Let us know what he really thinks, feels about this situation, people involved, etc. I hate that they all give such short, one line answers. It's like pulling teeth to get any info out of these people!
What bothers me about ron being at work is that most everyone i know works in the construction, steel, or cement industries, they all have alot of leeway(sp?) as to being able to leave. Some run home to grab something, some run to the store, some just plain abuse this leeway and just work when someone is watching. Even at a plant that is not like the big three or anything just 10 guys working the nite shift and one of them leaves to get stoned (& make drug deals) every single nite. You know what I mean?? I'd just really like it verified that ron was in one spot all that night.
Also imo ron and misty keep saying they passed the LDT, imo they think this way only because they made it throught the test and havent been arrested. Not anyone telling them they "passed"
JMO

Owlface
03-13-2009, 10:57 AM
Going back to the 911 call, I found it interesting that neither of them talked about looking around the area before, or after they realized she was missing. Ron was talking revenge before even looking to see if haleigh had wandered outside.

ITA thank you for saying this. 6 seconds after he finds out his daughter isn't in her bed his mind goes to "I'm going to kill whoever did this". Another person's first thought would be come help me look for her she must have wandered off! And the Haleigh's afraid of the dark etc talk was backtracking after the fact.

Peaches
03-13-2009, 10:57 AM
I'm still waiting for it to come on here but they have shown some teasers.

I agree that if Misty has anything to do with HaLeigh's missing I believe Ron will come undone on her big time.

My mind has only cleared two people close to this case & Misty is not one of them for the reason being she was the last one we know was with HaLeigh.

It's hard to think about someone being so young would get rid of a Child but anyone who follows true crime sadly knows it happens.

As jealous as Misty sounds in the myspace post is concerning to me. Just what if she was that jealous over HaLeigh, she was most definitely a Daddy's girl.
I know of a mother that poisoned her own Daughter 3 times (she lived) over the love & affection her husband had for his little girl.

I wish we had some info on why this 17 year old was not in school, what kind of parents now days don't make sure their Children don't at least get the basic free education?

Than there is the pesky Child support not being paid, another reason why many Children are killed.

My thoughts before my 2nd cup of coffee.

Sly

~


Excellent thoughts! I agree with you and am praying that Misty did not do anything to HaLeigh...................

I have read that Misty's parents kicked her out .............. maybe Ron was her answer to safety and love. Who knows? I am happy that she did not land up on the streets - doing you know what! moo

Hoping today will be the day for a BIG break in the case and that LE brings HaLeigh home!

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:58 AM
Yes, I can totally see where you are coming from.

I believe that Ron, Misti and their families live in a world that is so different from most of ours, that we just can't make sense of them. Some things that seem so wrong to us- in their world- apparently is just fine & dandy. Which is why this case is baffling. Their demeanor, their culture...even their language sometimes is so hard to decipher. I'm trying not to be judgemental ( I said TRYING) - but I think that their culture adds a different dimension to the case. JMO MOO

Peaches
03-13-2009, 10:58 AM
No it isn't a lie. BUT, it would be nice if he could elaborate a little more when answering. Let us know what he really thinks, feels about this situation, people involved, etc. I hate that they all give such short, one line answers. It's like pulling teeth to get any info out of these people!


I had to smile as I read this----------I just wish Ron would open his mouth when he talked. It looks as if her has trouble even saying the few words uttered. moo

kitty1182
03-13-2009, 10:59 AM
I just watched the Today show video......
I ain't buying Misty's story...Not at all....Sorry, but Ron is on my hinky meter too...

spageddy
03-13-2009, 10:59 AM
You were a lot more kinder than I was.

LOL, when I read your words I thought :"Oh, is that what I was tap-dancing around?"

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 10:59 AM
Yeah they looked like two kids sent to the principals office.

I watched the Today show interview and cannot wait for the "experts" to dissect these two.

They certainly did not appear to be so much in love ... they did not even hold hands which would have shown solidarity. Instead her hands are clasped in lap and his were defensively crossed the entire time.

Ron could not even look straight in the camera when he spoke about Haleigh and to Haleigh .. eyes kept shifting

Anyone looking at these two and this case for the first time must be asking lots of questions

KatyDid
03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
Misty speaks up immediately when Meredith asks Misty what she did when she woke up, both Ron and Misty say he was just pulling in the driveway when she called, boy did Misty speak up then "He was pulling into the driveway". Misty does acknowledge that there are inconsistencies in her story, but when Meredith asks why, a very *awkward* 5 seconds go by and finally Misty says, "I dunno".

How strange it all is, I'm going to rewind and count how many times Ron says "I dunno, I was at work" because so far, I'm up to five times.

moo

One thing I noticed during that awkward period of silence, Misty was looking at Ron like she was waiting for him to give her the answer. When he doesn't say anything, she says she doesn't know.

I can see how interviewing these two could be frustrating for LE.

JMO and observations

march27
03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
Thank you Swinefeld for posting the link. Stilll absorbing it all. I dont think this interview put Ron in a bad light at all.. Misty Im not so sure. Now that shes married, shes a big girl IMO... let the investigaters at her.

I agree seeing this interview makes me like Ron more...Misty not so much. Up until this point I havent had an opinion whether I think she did something or not... now I think shes guilty of something. I really liked Ron more when I thought they had broken up. I dont think he married her because he loves her its gotta be something else. Goodness Haleigh is so pretty.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
I'm telling ya. We need to compile a bunch of GOOD questions (the ones we've all been asking) to ask these people then have someone call and do an interview. Force them to elaborate. To expand on their answers. Not just give us a bunch of one liners "I don't knows" and "I was at work." :laugh:

kitty1182
03-13-2009, 11:05 AM
Ron has a supposed alibi, he has grieving tendancies, he comes off as this loving father....but I can't get him off my "full of crap" list! I don't know what it is...

I know....Something just seems off to me about him...
Misty, I don't believe at all..

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:06 AM
TELL me about it!!! I think I would have put my head through a wall a long time ago if I had to interview them. :biggrin:

One thing I noticed during that awkward period of silence, Misty was looking at Ron like she was waiting for him to give her the answer. When he doesn't say anything, she says she doesn't know.

I can see how interviewing these two could be frustrating for LE.

JMO and observations

KatyDid
03-13-2009, 11:07 AM
Misty doesn't "know" why there are inconsistencies?? What kind of an answer is this? Maybe they should have asked her "Why did you say this one time and something else later on?" Perhaps she would have understood that?

I bet she would have said the same thing...I don't know.

They both appear to be hiding *something*, imo. I can't put my finger on it though.

Peaches
03-13-2009, 11:08 AM
Ron has a supposed alibi, he has grieving tendancies, he comes off as this loving father....but I can't get him off my "full of crap" list! I don't know what it is...


ICE..............maybe it is because of the choices he has made in life.............maybe it is his language...............his body language.

Who knows.................I do not see Ron as the Father of the Year.........but I do see a young man who has had his heart pulled from him...........I see a young man who did his best to support his children............Of course, I see a young man who has mad many mistakes.

Not having all his baggage...........I can honestly say that there are things that I wish I could change about some of my choices but none of us can recall yesterday.

moo

Peaches
03-13-2009, 11:10 AM
Misty and Ron should have gotten married today . Much more appropriate. FRIDAY THE 13TH.:thumbup:


Today might be the day that they bring HaLeigh home.

The 13th is also a good day. My grandson was born on a Friday the 13th. He is a treasure!

moo

march27
03-13-2009, 11:12 AM
Why does Misty always wear oversized coats?

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 11:13 AM
sorry to repeat my question...its just that I remember seeing Ron's mom in an earlier interview and her saying something to the effect of somebody in the family going over to Ron's house that night. BUT....did anyone actually see Haleigh after Ron left for work? If not....then you can see what I'm thinking

Yes, TN says in an interview (on NG I believe) that she "sent a family member" to the house to drop off clothes. This was around the time that police (supposedly) had received a tip that Misty was not home at the time of the alleged abduction. Later, GGM Sykes said that she was the one who went to the house to drop off "clean clothes" and the children were on the front porch eating dinner at 7 p.m.

Misty never mentioned the GGM being there at the house. She only rattles off her brother and the A/C guy when asked by Greta.

Capt. Schauland on Mike Galanos' HLN show said that besides Misty, the only person who saw Haleigh was a neighbor who reported that they saw Haleigh "earlier in the evening". He did not elaborate on who the neighbor was or whether it was a male or female neighbor or whether the neighbor was actually a relative.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:13 AM
A lot of teens dress like that.

Why does Misty always wear oversized coats?

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:14 AM
Well Texas if you all have not seen this take a look. It is what a neighbor heard approx an hour BEFORE 911 call. Complements of Swarvoski (sp?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_sCan always depend on Swarvoski for the links to all the news. She is the best...This was all I needed to push me right over the edge. Have followed so many cases for so many years..thought I had seen it all in the last "missing child"case and then one comes along. In the last one we had ALL TYPES including dead crawling squirrells...but...this case..for me..has topped the other. I think mainly it is because LE has NOT release much info..that gets us all aggravated...I am at a loss for words with this bunch...jmo

march27
03-13-2009, 11:14 AM
To me their body language did not show "newly wed couple happy". I realize that Haleigh is missing but I just do not get a "in love" vibe from these two.

march27
03-13-2009, 11:15 AM
A lot of teens dress like that.

Oh crap I'm getting old. :scared:

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:17 AM
If he doesn't want his personal life dissected then he shouldn't televise his personal life on national television. As far as I'm concerned that makes him fair game.ITA Owl...and I will add..Ron became fair game when Haleigh went missing. jmo

FoxySly
03-13-2009, 11:18 AM
The reporter was talking as if spousal priviledge might come in to play....I thought we had figured out that anything before the marraige, or involving a child threw that out the window??

Spousal privilege don't apply as it happened before they were married.

And IMO it won't mean a dang thing if Ron finds out Misty had something to do with HaLeigh disappearing, no way do I think Ron would cover for her quite the opposite IMO she'd be safer in jail then with Ron.

Ron clearly loved his Children IMO. Look at the charges he had before them but nothing after their birth shows me that once they were born he put his priorities in order as well he should have.

Sly

march27
03-13-2009, 11:18 AM
Cuz she's a Gangsta'

Word :thumbsup:

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:21 AM
ITA and in my experience it's only people who have things to hid that complain about everybody being in their business.Exactly Owl...your baby is missing so WHY would you care about your past/your personal life/your business as Ron puts it ...???The important thing is helping LE find your child..no matter what. JMO

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:22 AM
I don't know about that. But anyway, if they wanted an interview and let's say she wasn't able to cross state lines, they would have just done the interview via satellite like they've done many times before. Then there wouldn't have been a need for them to go to NY.

Morning all! Still playing ketchup here from yesterday, so this may have been answered already (if so, please throw coffee, double milk no sugar). Is it possible Today set up the interview last week and Ron could not take Misty across state lines unless they were married due to her age?

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 11:22 AM
Mornin' Tree. The bolding is mine. It made absolutely no sense for him to continue saying it was nobody's business. Ron aggravates me, when Meredith asked him about the marriage and why now, he mumbled an "I don't know" and then said it was nobody's business. They give more detailed answers about the here and now, yet vague and shrug answers when it pertains to Haleigh.

I still don't "get" why Ron married Misty and probably never will. True, it is his own business whom he marries, however when one marries the last person that saw your daughter and that same one who has a million inconsistencies in her story, then what could he possibly be thinking? Then again, he seemed awfully immature in his interview today and that is not a slam against Ron. I only mean to suggest that he seems to be lacking a sense of maturity that I recognize in other 25 year old fathers.

moo

ITA, and Misty's totally lacking in the maturity department.

Geez Louise...."That mean ol' policeman thinks he can be all rude and stuff to Mrs. Ronald Cummings, he's got another think coming!"

Peaches
03-13-2009, 11:22 AM
As I was driving my gc to school this morning, I was listening to the radio. They were talking about a child who was terminally ill. He is 6 years old.

This child has missed many days of school that have been recorded as unexcused because of doctor appointment/cemo/etc. This is just unreal. The POPE invited him to visit so that he could give him his blessings and the school would not give permission because of his unexcused absences.

I can tell you right now.............if my child was not expected to live..............I would home school.................my child would be with me so that I could give them the love and attention they should have. Shoot..............who cares if they do not know how to read/write/do math if they are not going to be here more than 2 years at best.

Although I realise that HaLeigh's life expectancy is longer than 2 years, I believe that it is not even through her teens. I know that as normal of a life she can be given is good but there again, I would home school this baby. That way...........doctor appointments/illness could be handled so that she could maintain a good life.

Just think of the field trips she could enjoy...........and Ron Jr could go along. Children learn so much visiting places like "The Little White House" - Zoos - Capitals - Farms - Dairy - Library, etc. There are many groups of home schoolers who share time together.........

Anyway.............that would take care of unexcused absences. MOO

sammy
03-13-2009, 11:24 AM
During Scott Peterson's interviews, it was said that looking down and to the left means deception. Did he look down to the left?

I just watched the video of the marriage. Oh my goodness. Outside in front of a run-down trailer. Ron in a wrinkled red shirt and then a muscle shirt for the 'reception'. You can't make this stuff up.

Yes, Ron sure did look down/left when he was making his plea for Haleigh (near the end of his sentence when Merideth asked if he wanted to say anything). That caught my eye immedietely.
The rest of his answers ? Pfttt!!
All the man repeats over + over is "I don't know I was at work."
I imagine that is about all LE is getting out of him during his many interviews with them too.

The reporter at the beginning of the interview said that Misti just stopped answering questions when they were interviewing her.
Now we hear that she walked out of a LE interview ?
Who does that ?
Not someone who is desperate to get a missing child back that's for sure.

As for Misti + Ron saying they "passed" their lie detector tests.
LE doesn't use the term "passed" for LDT's. They don't send you on your way with a "Thank you very much - you passed"
Terms used by LE would be ... "shows discrepencies", or "inconcistancies", or if they had done well then "consistent answers" or "no signs of deception".
One of the talking heads of GVS show said the same thing a few nights ago.

One more rant ...
Ron and his whole 'I don't think my personal life is anyone's business' baloney.
What ??
God forbid I was ever in that position with a missing child, I would lay their entire life out for the world to tear apart - if that's what it takes to bring your little girl home.

Very bad mojo from both of these two.
I'm glad in a way that they went to NYC for this interview now - I'm sure LE was taking some good notes.

Above rant is all JMO.

sammy
03-13-2009, 11:29 AM
Maybe the "abduction" confirmed what she had been trying to get CPS to believe all along, that the children were not being properly cared for.

Then when CPS shows up, GGM Sykes, Teresa, and Misty have "cleaned up" and have CPS believe there's nothing to see here?

JMO and nothing else.

:thumbup: Great Post !!
Just what I have been thinking as well.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Bolding mine - From what I know of women in power and control relationships I believe that Crystal was railroaded out of custody of the children and it's only now when she has the power to stand up to Ron and right that wrong. I don't know who should have custody - Ron got it by default and not through any sort of investigation into what was in the children's best interest.ITA Owl..Crystal's attorney said last night on NG she has spoken to many people (friends..relatives..neighbors) that know some "not so nice" things that went on in Ron's/Misty's home before Haleigh vanished and everything was going to be investigated. Time will tell...jmo

Peaches
03-13-2009, 11:31 AM
ITA with you.
I know I have done some pretty stupid things including drinking and smoking "the stuff" when I was younger as has my husband. But when it was time to grow up, we straightened up and haven't done anything like that for...goodness close to 15 years or so now. Simply stated, if heaven forbid, one of my children came up missing, and the media got into it, they would find not so pretty things about my husband and I from our past. Of course we now look back and wonder what the he77 we were thinking, but we both have come from homes similar to Crystal,Misty, and Ronald and it took us wanting to have a better life for us and our future children to get us out of the cycle of drinking, drugging, and good times partying.

I believe once these children were born, Ronald decided it was time to "man up" and do what was right for them. Can't erase your past, no matter how bad it may have been, but you can do something with your future and for your children's future, and I believe that is what he did.

JMO


Thanks for sharing..............a Great story.

It's it wonderful what children can do for us...............at first sight, we love them without conditions.................we would give our own life that they live......be happy/etc.

Children are God's blessings for us..........as are grandchildren.

How can anyone hurt a trusting child? I hope that today is the day they find HaLeigh!

all moo

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 11:34 AM
Totally agree Cry...can you believe she had the guts to walk out of a police interview? This girl is a lot tougher than anyone gives her credit for. She will not break, they will need to find Haleigh to break this case. She and Ron getting married only fueled her strength. She's not smart, but she's stubborn and as long as the love of her life is buying what she's selling, she won't give a rip what anyone else thinks. Man, that's gotta take guts to walk out of a police interview. Unreal.

moo

I mean, even Casey Anthony didn't walk out of a police interview. Of course, she probably thought she was on The Dating Game, but still....

Along with the immaturity there is a total lack of respect for law enforcement, IMO.

march27
03-13-2009, 11:36 AM
As I was driving my gc to school this morning, I was listening to the radio. They were talking about a child who was terminally ill. He is 6 years old.

This child has missed many days of school that have been recorded as unexcused because of doctor appointment/cemo/etc. This is just unreal. The POPE invited him to visit so that he could give him his blessings and the school would not give permission because of his unexcused absences.

I can tell you right now.............if my child was not expected to live..............I would home school.................my child would be with me so that I could give them the love and attention they should have. Shoot..............who cares if they do not know how to read/write/do math if they are not going to be here more than 2 years at best.


Although I realise that HaLeigh's life expectancy is longer than 2 years, I believe that it is not even through her teens. I know that as normal of a life she can be given is good but there again, I would home school this baby. That way...........doctor appointments/illness could be handled so that she could maintain a good life.

Just think of the field trips she could enjoy...........and Ron Jr could go along. Children learn so much visiting places like "The Little White House" - Zoos - Capitals - Farms - Dairy - Library, etc. There are many groups of home schoolers who share time together.........

Anyway.............that would take care of unexcused absences. MOO

I didnt know that only to her teens?

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:37 AM
It wouldn't be because the "abduction" happened on Ron's watch. It will be because of his choice of caregivers who, as you say are "full of it and have everything to do with the kidnapping".

JMOGood morning cry..Good to read you this morning. Did you see the "interview"? I ranted till I couldn't rant any more.lol..had to get "it" out of me..lol..ITA with your post. I can not understand why some want to give Ron a pass and not Misty. Ron has everything to do with what happened. I have even seen it posted that ron has never lied..bull...what about the incident w/gun and kissing cousin Joe and the fight between them? Ron said incident happened weeks before Haleigh vanished and yet his mother says different. WTH..IMO..Ron is NOT entitled to a free pass. IMO..Ron is NOT as clean as some believe. And all this is just MO..

sammy
03-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Totally agree Cry...can you believe she had the guts to walk out of a police interview? This girl is a lot tougher than anyone gives her credit for. She will not break, they will need to find Haleigh to break this case. She and Ron getting married only fueled her strength. She's not smart, but she's stubborn and as long as the love of her life is buying what she's selling, she won't give a rip what anyone else thinks. Man, that's gotta take guts to walk out of a police interview. Unreal.

moo

Yep, I agree.
Misty may not have more than a 7th grade ed-u-ma-ca-tion, but that girl is stubborn and she is "street smart".
I remember looking at all those my space pages of her pals + relatives. They all seem to be into the wanna be gangsta life.
Her attitude seems even more brazen now that she is Mrs Ronnie Cummings.
Really ... who walks out of a LE interview ?

JMO

march27
03-13-2009, 11:38 AM
My husband finally watched it on NG with me last night for the first time and he said two things after it was over......"this is just like a soap opera but with real people" and "why haven't they arrested the babysitter yet?" I had not even talked to him about this case (he prefers wrestling LOL, sorry, we're rednecks here, too, and proud of it) but he "got it" right away. No, you can't make this stuff up!

The thing I thought of last night is if it were Crystal (who I dont care for) she had a 17 year old boyfriend watching the kids I would have no doubt who is guilty. I dont want to get sidetracked by the fact that Misty is a female. She is the most likely suspect. I also think Ron will kill her if she hurt Haleigh.

Owlface
03-13-2009, 11:39 AM
ITA with you.
I know I have done some pretty stupid things including drinking and smoking "the stuff" when I was younger as has my husband. But when it was time to grow up, we straightened up and haven't done anything like that for...goodness close to 15 years or so now. Simply stated, if heaven forbid, one of my children came up missing, and the media got into it, they would find not so pretty things about my husband and I from our past. Of course we now look back and wonder what the he77 we were thinking, but we both have come from homes similar to Crystal,Misty, and Ronald and it took us wanting to have a better life for us and our future children to get us out of the cycle of drinking, drugging, and good times partying.

I believe once these children were born, Ronald decided it was time to "man up" and do what was right for them. Can't erase your past, no matter how bad it may have been, but you can do something with your future and for your children's future, and I believe that is what he did.

JMO


I would like to point out that a lack of criminal charges post children's birth does not mean that he isn't involved in bad behavior now. Or perhaps it's chickens coming home to roost from before.

With what happened to my son I realized that if I were the type for revenge I wouldn't direct it at the person who hurt son but at that person's loved ones. JMHO

march27
03-13-2009, 11:43 AM
I agree, I have never heard that Haleigh had a short life expectancy and wonder if that is FACT or an educated guess.

moo

Did a little googleing and says it can cut 10 years off life expectancy.

KKKKKKatie
03-13-2009, 11:43 AM
Wow...just wow! I just watched the Today show.

Anybody else get the feeling that Ron is a ticking time bomb? He seems so angry....I'm just not sure at who?

I have never been thru what he has but I think I would be more heartsick than angry. Just something about him. :confused:

IMO

Peaches
03-13-2009, 11:46 AM
I didnt know that only to her teens?


I read that somewhere on these boards. I will check.

SandyO
03-13-2009, 11:48 AM
You mean NG actually covered something other than Casey Anthony? I'm shocked!!!

I haven't been watching her lately because it's usually about Anthony. Which wouldn't be too bad, IF she had something new to say every now and then.

I can't stand to hear the term "Tot Mom" again ---- not even one more time!

Motomom
03-13-2009, 11:51 AM
When I think of all the tree's, land, water...the miles and miles of it in the surrounding area....I have serious doubts that her small little body can be found.

Caylee was found though.. Hopefully Haleigh will be found as well.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Wow, boy did that interview backfire, imo. The pastors of the church they originally wanted to get married in issued a statement "we do not agree with this union." When Ron was questioned in his mh about Misty putting Haleigh to bed, Ron says "that's what I was told by the police, by Misty, by everybody, but personally I don't know, I don't know what happened, I was at work." Police are now concerned about Misty's inconsistencies, specifically regarding the critical time around the night/morning that Haleigh disappeared. Police believe Ron that he really doesn't know what happened to his little girl.

Ronald still seemed indifferent to me today, why wasn't he wearing a find Haleigh shirt? Misty did at least, even though her jacket was mostly covering up Haleigh's face. The weird part for me was when Meredith was questioning Ron about Jr's story regarding the man in black when Ron finally says "I don't know I can't say I WAS AT WORK", once again giving weight to his alibi that he was at work, however why did he need to say that with regards to the man in black and what his child said? It DOESN'T make sensel.

I truly believe NBC bamboozled these two, they probably didn't even think NBC would have asked any of these questions. Both Ron and Misty stated they passed their ldt, yet the le says Misty has inconsistencies, so which is it? Did she pass her ldt or not?

mooMorning to you Viking..I always agree with all your post...till now. You think NBC "bamboozled" Ron and Misty? What do you think NBC told them in order to get them on the show? I believe they were told ...to be interviewed about Haleigh geing kidnapped. Interviewing would lead me to think they would be asked questions about this case and that is exactly what Meredith did. Ron has used the "I was at work" over and over again. Even in the 911 call you will hear him say it. Seems as tho he can't say it Enough. and by the way...I most likely WILL agree with all of your post. jmo

sinagua
03-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Being Mrs. Ronald Peterson is about as attractive to me as being Mrs. Drew Peterson.

Boy, Misty looks young. She hasn't even grown up yet. She could easily pass for 14. In my opinion, she is about that mature, too.

It is obvious to me that she is unable to speak, w/o Ron's approval. She looks at him, when she starts to answer a question.

As far as Misty walking out of the police interview, I imagine that the cops were doing good cop, bad cop. That is why Misty needs an attorney.
If she is innocent, she needs to start getting some good advice.

She is not obligated to go to police interviews. She is not obligated to do news interviews.

I think the more she in on TV, the more damning she looks.

I am still praying for Haleigh.

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Oh I KNOW!!!! I stopped watching because it seems like the same ole', same ole' to me. But when I did watch, if my husband happened to be in the room or passing the room, he'd say, "Can't that woman say anything else?" LOL

I can't stand to hear the term "Tot Mom" again ---- not even one more time!

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 11:52 AM
If you watch the Today show interview they show some video. The link is a few pages back.

Getting here late sorry is there any videos of the wedding?

Texas48
03-13-2009, 11:53 AM
Yes and now BECAUSE of this attorney there is going to be a command center and investigators all over this. It is about time!!I agree TT. This case needed to be stirred up and that is what is about to happen. imo:thumbsup:

FoxySly
03-13-2009, 11:56 AM
Excellent thoughts! I agree with you and am praying that Misty did not do anything to HaLeigh...................

I have read that Misty's parents kicked her out .............. maybe Ron was her answer to safety and love. Who knows? I am happy that she did not land up on the streets - doing you know what! moo

Hoping today will be the day for a BIG break in the case and that LE brings HaLeigh home!

Thank you Peaches.

I just watched the Today show, strange they were just married yesterday & not once held hands. In fact in the teaser they each had their arms crossed.

I also seen misty stumbling to answer the question about why so many different stories as someone else posted she looked to Ron as if he was going to bail her out... didn't happen.

Misty looked so happy, Ron looked so sad.

I don't know what's up with this marriage unless Misty is pregnant because Ron sure don't look happy about it IMO he looks as if he can't stand being next to Misty & many a girl has gotten herself pregnant on purpose to trap a guy. Yeah, I know it takes two but many have said they were on the pill yet secretly stopped taking it.

Misty could be looking at Ron for security, someone to put a roof over her head. Wish I knew more about her upbringing.

Please HaLeigh be alright!!!

Sly

~

Motomom
03-13-2009, 11:57 AM
I mean, even Casey Anthony didn't walk out of a police interview. Of course, she probably thought she was on The Dating Game, but still....
Along with the immaturity there is a total lack of respect for law enforcement, IMO.

LOL on the bolded part :thumbsup:

This is what Im thinking right this minute.. I hope that LE did not lie to ron when they said they don't suspect Misty. I believe the reporter, that LE does not believe ron is involved. He threw out the detectives name IMO so it can be verified what he was told. Now if he is lieing... well.. I wont know what to think. Not like I do now anyways LOL. Do you think LE would lie to Ron about misty not being a suspect, knowing that he was going to marry her. Did Ron need that reassurance? Why get married now, I dont buy this Haleigh wanted it.

Mimi428
03-13-2009, 11:59 AM
I agree with everything you said liz... hope shes not home alone with Ron when he figures out she DOES know what has happend IMO

If the man has two working brain cells he would have noticed a month ago that Misty's story is full of inconsistencies.

I have been asking myself why in the world Ron would cover for Misty. Why would he tolerate the inconsistencies in her story? Why would he not have nailed her hide to the wall demanding coherent answers? He knows how to say HE doesn't know because he was at work, so why doesn't he look for answers from her? Why does it not infuriate him, or fill him full of frustration & anxiety when he finds out Misty keeps being called back in for questioning? Why did he not have a rippin' fit when he found out that Misty walked out of the interview? WHY WOULD HE DO ANY OF THAT?

Complete strangers who know only of Haleigh from what we have seen in pictures & videos have been driven to despair wondering where she could be. We have been half-crazed thinking that this innocent child if alive is most likely being tormented - & if she isn't alive, she probably suffered a horrific death. It makes us seethe with anger & frustration to realize that LE believes there are inconsistencies that Misty could clear up, yet instead of working harder to clear them up - she gets into a snit & walks out!

WALKS OUT

Did anyone hear her say something along the lines of, "I'm sorry, I am trying my hardest, I have been wracking my brain, I have spent hours upon days re-thinking every possible thing that happened that night. I have looked through everything in the house, trying to see if something would jolt my memory. Please, please, I want to get past this so Haleigh can be found - I'll do ANYTHING."??

H#LL NO

She's pizzed. She's insulted. She'll show THEM they can't talk to her that way. Eff you, Mr Investigator - she's outta there.

And RON justs SITS there for that, saying, "I don't know, I was at work. Everybody needs to stay out of my personal business" - with a sneer on his face. WHY would he cover for her? WHY does Misty act like she is home free, they got nothin' on her, while her husband keeps a constant look on his face like "I hope they don't find out more or dig too deep or my azz will be behind bars"??

Anybody got a rational explanation for all of that? I can't think of one. And believe me, I have tried.

JMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:01 PM
I am not saying that Crystal should not try for custody of her children. Everyone who loves their children should fight for them. But, I think that the timing is suspect. Why now? Why not when she was told Ron backhanded Haleigh? Why not before when she supposedly knew he was abusive? (I do not believe he is abusive, BTW, I just think he yells really loud and has a potty mouth).

That is my point, to take advantage of the situation is just as cold hearted as anything else that has been done and said.

Except Haleigh's abduction. Goes without saying that is the top cruel thing that could have been done.

JMOIt is my understanding Crystal only found out about the back hand incident when she got there the morning Haleigh vanished. And to add Crystal had filed for custody and it went by the wayside possibly because she did not have the money to pay the attorney and what a custody battle was going to cost. IMO..she is not doing it because she is "cold hearted". I believe there are some things about Ron's dealing w/lets say....not so good people and other things which I believe will be brought forth as Crystal's attorney seems to getting alot of dept. involved...including statements from neighbors/friends/family and others. Will be interesting to say the least. jmo

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 12:01 PM
When it comes to this whole situation, I can easily see Ron being worried and asking LE something like "So, did Missy pass?" and LE saying something like (not wanting to state the truth just yet) "Don't worry Ron. Everything will be ok." And he mistaken that for meaning she passed. That's just an example.

Unless and until we hear LE say she passed, I'm not believing she did.

LOL on the bolded part :thumbsup:

This is what Im thinking right this minute.. I hope that LE did not lie to ron when they said they don't suspect Misty. I believe the reporter, that LE does not believe ron is involved. He threw out the detectives name IMO so it can be verified what he was told. Now if he is lieing... well.. I wont know what to think. Not like I do now anyways LOL. Do you think LE would lie to Ron about misty not being a suspect, knowing that he was going to marry her. Did Ron need that reassurance? Why get married now, I dont buy this Haleigh wanted it.

Motomom
03-13-2009, 12:01 PM
Wow...just wow! I just watched the Today show.

Anybody else get the feeling that Ron is a ticking time bomb? He seems so angry....I'm just not sure at who?

I have never been thru what he has but I think I would be more heartsick than angry. Just something about him. :confused:

IMO

Im sure the emotions are like a rollarcoaster and someone who has been in his shoes could probably describe better the stages one goes through. YOU nailed it though.. ticking time bomb.. You are right. I really think that Haleigh missing is killing him inside and he has taken a beating in the media, bad. I can imagine that he is short on his information because of that. No matter what he does or doesnt do, says or doesnt, he gets ripped. IMO he wants the information out about his daughter.. not him.. rightfully so. Even though I realize he is a part of it, his past is his past.

playnice
03-13-2009, 12:02 PM
I watched the video even tho my puter froze up after. I agree that Ron does not look happy to have married her.
Im wondering if he truly trusts and believes her.
Could he married her thinking if she is happy and comfortable the little witch will let something spill? She looks like she got what she wanted and he looks angry and unhappy.
There is a story to this marriage and it isnt what they are saying.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:03 PM
Yup, I did, it was like an involuntary reaction, I wonder what the body language specialists would say about that!

Hope for Haleigh :wub:
BeachpattyI think specialists would have a field day with both Ron and Misty. jmo

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:04 PM
Bolding mine - LE has actually used those words - Ron is innocent? I am woundering that as well Owl as I have not heard those exact words. Will go back and read again just to make certain.

KKKKKKatie
03-13-2009, 12:06 PM
Im sure the emotions are like a rollarcoaster and someone who has been in his shoes could probably describe better the stages one goes through. YOU nailed it though.. ticking time bomb.. You are right. I really think that Haleigh missing is killing him inside and he has taken a beating in the media, bad. I can imagine that he is short on his information because of that. No matter what he does or doesnt do, says or doesnt, he gets ripped. IMO he wants the information out about his daughter.. not him.. rightfully so. Even though I realize he is a part of it, his past is his past.

I can agree Moto unless his past has something to do with this.....

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:06 PM
During Scott Peterson's interviews, it was said that looking down and to the left means deception. Did he look down to the left?

I just watched the video of the marriage. Oh my goodness. Outside in front of a run-down trailer. Ron in a wrinkled red shirt and then a muscle shirt for the 'reception'. You can't make this stuff up.Brought tears to my eyes..ummmmm :thumbdown:

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 12:06 PM
At that part when he says that, he makes me think that even he doesn't really know whether or not he believes Misty's story.

Or what about the part in the trailer where Ron says Misty told him but yet he really does not know what happened!! He tried to slip in there that LE also told him what happened that night......NOT!

Peaches
03-13-2009, 12:08 PM
jBecause I posted something incorrect, I extend my apology.........sorry folks. I will try not to do this again......

Anyway.............here is what I found:

www.familyvillagewisc.edu/Lib_turn.htm - 8k


There is not much information on this question. However, all things being equal, there is no reason why a woman with Turner syndrome should not lead a full, productive life. It is important though, to have competent medical care regularly.

There are many parts of the body effected by this disease. Also, said 1 in 2,500 girls are born with it. That is a lot of people folks!

moo

kitty1182
03-13-2009, 12:09 PM
I watched the video even tho my puter froze up after. I agree that Ron does not look happy to have married her.
Im wondering if he truly trusts and believes her.
Could he married her thinking if she is happy and comfortable the little witch will let something spill? She looks like she got what she wanted and he looks angry and unhappy.
There is a story to this marriage and it isnt what they are saying.

I agree and there is more to the story Misty "isn't" telling..imo

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:09 PM
Misty speaks up immediately when Meredith asks Misty what she did when she woke up, both Ron and Misty say he was just pulling in the driveway when she called, boy did Misty speak up then "He was pulling into the driveway". Misty does acknowledge that there are inconsistencies in her story, but when Meredith asks why, a very *awkward* 5 seconds go by and finally Misty says, "I dunno".

How strange it all is, I'm going to rewind and count how many times Ron says "I dunno, I was at work" because so far, I'm up to five times.

mooI am not meaning to be ugly or rude about Misty and is very unlike me to put anyone down ..with that said...I really believe Misty did NOT know what the word "inconsistencies" meant. jmo

Motomom
03-13-2009, 12:09 PM
Or what about the part in the trailer where Ron says Misty told him but yet he really does not know what happened!! He tried to slip in there that LE also told him what happened that night......NOT!

He was at work. all he knows is what Misti and LE have told him IMO. His employment can be verified easily and if LE suspected that he left, there'd be alot more pressure on him IMO. Did you hear the reporter state that LE does not beleive Ron is involved? He doesn't know what happened, he was at work. How can anyone expect him to know, when he wasnt there? There are no other answers he can give in regards to that because he was at work. JMO

Motomom
03-13-2009, 12:10 PM
I can agree Moto unless his past has something to do with this.....

It looks like hes been on the up and up the last few yrs though, so I don't beleive that his past has anything to do with it.. IF it comes out that it does.. different story..completely different story.

FoxySly
03-13-2009, 12:10 PM
I agree seeing this interview makes me like Ron more...Misty not so much. Up until this point I havent had an opinion whether I think she did something or not... now I think shes guilty of something. I really liked Ron more when I thought they had broken up. I dont think he married her because he loves her its gotta be something else. Goodness Haleigh is so pretty.

My heart broke for Ron from the very start, maybe because my Son went through so much at Ron's age getting custody of his Children.

This interview has made me wonder about Misty even more.

ITA with your last 2 sentences big time.

Sly

~

KHav
03-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Maybe Misty and Ron got married because Misty said:

"Ronald Cummings , marry me or I will tell what really happened "

She seems that type.

Maybe that is why Ron looks angry.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Maybe the "abduction" confirmed what she had been trying to get CPS to believe all along, that the children were not being properly cared for.

Then when CPS shows up, GGM Sykes, Teresa, and Misty have "cleaned up" and have CPS believe there's nothing to see here?

JMO and nothing else.
Very good points and post cry.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:12 PM
Too bad they didn't get paid to have it on "My Big Redneck Wedding." :unsure:

Ok, that was low and wrong of me. :wink:Yea..but it was funny. I do watch that show.lol

sammy
03-13-2009, 12:12 PM
LE believes if they can clear up Ms Croslin's inconsistancies - they can solve this disappearance.
Focus is on the 8 hour period between 7pm + 3:27am.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/13/news/news01.txt

SwineFeld
03-13-2009, 12:14 PM
In the Today interview the reporter said, when speaking of LE "They say they are satisfied that Ronald really doesn't know what happened to his little girl. It's his new bride they are concerned about."

I am woundering that as well Owl as I have not heard those exact words. Will go back and read again just to make certain.

kitty1182
03-13-2009, 12:14 PM
LE believes if they can clear up Ms Croslin's inconsistancies - they can solve this disappearance.
Focus is on the 8 hour period between 7pm + 3:27am.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/13/news/news01.txt

I think they are keeping a close eye on her, I hope so anyway...

tartangirl
03-13-2009, 12:15 PM
Haleigh's father and his new wife have a lot to say. You will not get what really happened out of them though. They appear so conflicted as to what they will or have agreed to say that their words do not match their body language. It comes across as two sneaky people pretending to tell the truth, their truth, that they want the public to know. I do not think they even care if anyone believes them. Both of them have told the facts as they want them to be known. I truly think that they believe it will stop there. :rolleyes:

Actions speak louder than words and today when I saw them they failed miserably in both those areas. Defensive, self serving and uncooperative for sure, caring and concerned, not so much. You can only consider their lifestyle and upbringing to a certain point when trying to bolster their behavior since Haleigh went missing. What these two adults have presented to the public and no doubt to LE is a couple hiding some pertinent facts. How very sad that this is yet again another innocent child in this horrible scenario that is at the mercy of a less than honest parent.

I will continue to hope and pray for Haleigh. These two, again, not so much. :glare:



~ as usual, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~

KKKKKKatie
03-13-2009, 12:15 PM
I am not meaning to be ugly or rude about Misty and is very unlike me to put anyone down ..with that said...I really believe Misty did NOT know what the word "inconsistencies" meant. jmo

I thought the same thing Texas

KatyDid
03-13-2009, 12:16 PM
Wow...just wow! I just watched the Today show.

Anybody else get the feeling that Ron is a ticking time bomb? He seems so angry....I'm just not sure at who?

I have never been thru what he has but I think I would be more heartsick than angry. Just something about him. :confused:

IMO

Yes, his anger is very evident. Like you, I'm not sure *who* he is angry at.

Misty was no longer grinning from ear to ear. Maybe she was coached and told it was not an appropriate emotion to display at this time.

4Kids
03-13-2009, 12:18 PM
I wonder if Ron just head the news that LE thinks Misty's story is inconsistent. Perhpas that is why he looked angry. It is the first I am hearing of it, directfly from LE. I would assume this is news to Ron as well. The dynamics between the two were definitely off this morning. I think he is doubting Misty...something he should have done some time ago. Question her and Cousin Joe together would be my suggestion. MOO

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Are you allowed to WALK OUT while being questioned by police? I would think that if Misty was really a suspect she would have immediately been stopped from doing so. JMO

Up until the point you are arrested, you are free to leave a police interview at any time. I'm sure she was told that and she took her opportunity for what she deemed "rudeness" on the part of the investigator.

They couldn't stop her unless they were planning on arresting her right then and there. Once that happens, she gets a lawyer and they get ZERO information from her from here on out.

KKKKKKatie
03-13-2009, 12:19 PM
Yes, his anger is very evident. Like you, I'm not sure *who* he is angry at.

Misty was no longer grinning from ear to ear. Maybe she was coached and told it was not an appropriate emotion to display at this time.


I think she was taken a back by the intro...with LE talking about her inconsistencies. JMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:20 PM
Ron and Misty's interview consists very much of "one liners", just no elaboration on anything, yeah we know Ron " I was out working" and Misty "I dont know". Unbelieveable!!!!lol Skylark...Misty did make a statement in from of court house .. Not Exact..I was at home cause I passed LDT....and...Alot of people probally don't agree with the wedding thingy but focus is still on Haleigh..Something like that..will have to back and get Exact wording. jmo

playnice
03-13-2009, 12:20 PM
Investigators are focusing on the eight hours from when Haleigh was last seen - about 7 p.m. on Feb. 9 - and when she was reported missing the next day at 3:27 a.m., Maj. Gary Bowling said Thursday.

"Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said.

Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said.

Investigators also met with the 25-year-old Cummings, he said.

"We are satisfied with the interviews that we have had so far with Ronald, and his account of the eight hours in question," Bowling added.


This tells me they do know Ron was at work and someone saw Haleigh after he went to work, be it the AC man, ggm or Mistis brother. I remember a neighbor saw her playing in the yard altho a time wasnt mentioned but LE have someone they believe that saw her.
What time was her brother there? What was he doing there? What happened when he was there?
Misti knows who took her or what happened to Haleigh.

crymeariver2006
03-13-2009, 12:21 PM
Yes, his anger is very evident. Like you, I'm not sure *who* he is angry at.

Misty was no longer grinning from ear to ear. Maybe she was coached and told it was not an appropriate emotion to display at this time.

Coached?

Not on your life. Who's going to do this coaching? Her mother who signed for them to get married because people were talking bad about her? Ron's mother who says that they didn't have time to get married before? GGM Sykes who says that Misty will be the new mommy?

That's blind leading the blind, IMO.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:23 PM
Meredith "I think part of the problem Misty has been a certain number of inconsistencies or what's perceived to be inconsistencies because you first said that haleigh was in bed with you then said she was on a mattress next to you, this is an opportunity to clarify you've had time to think through what happened that night, can you walk us through it one more time misty, your best recollection of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared?"

Misty: "Well i put her to bed at 8 o'clock, I was washing my blankets, OUR blankets..........." Big red flag, she switches from "my" blankets to "our blankets" I think Haleigh may have started off sleeping with Misty, pee'd the bed and it's anyones guess what happened after that. I also think that is why Misty can't keep the blanket story or who slept with her that night, straight.

mooViking...Was it not the balnket was on a window or in a van..Will go back and read it over but I recall something about a blanket being in a van...??

kitty1182
03-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Viking...Was it not the balnket was on a window or in a van..Will go back and read it over but I recall something about a blanket being in a van...??

I think at first she said her blanket(Misty's) was in the van...

KKKKKKatie
03-13-2009, 12:26 PM
I wonder if Ron came home for "lunch" during his shifts, like lets say does he get a half hour, or hour break during the shift, one would think so. I think he went home during a break and something happened to Haleigh, and he disposed of her, and I really think Misty has no idea. I think they should look into that.

jmo


Could be Pochet but I can't imagine that LE hasn't checked that out IMO

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:27 PM
ITA thank you for saying this. 6 seconds after he finds out his daughter isn't in her bed his mind goes to "I'm going to kill whoever did this". Another person's first thought would be come help me look for her she must have wandered off! And the Haleigh's afraid of the dark etc talk was backtracking after the fact.And you would be outside knocking on doors and screaming your head off for help....running around everywhere SEARCHING. I think that is what I would have done and I think that is what you would have done. KWIM.?

mustangtoni
03-13-2009, 12:28 PM
Totally agree Cry...can you believe she had the guts to walk out of a police interview? This girl is a lot tougher than anyone gives her credit for. She will not break, they will need to find Haleigh to break this case. She and Ron getting married only fueled her strength. She's not smart, but she's stubborn and as long as the love of her life is buying what she's selling, she won't give a rip what anyone else thinks. Man, that's gotta take guts to walk out of a police interview. Unreal.

moo


Misty may not be book smart, but that girl sure is street smart...She's not as innocent as some tend to think....She set her eyes on Ron back when she was babysitting Amber's child, and nothing was going to stop her from getting what SHE WANTED....

To me, Ron is the naive one...

playnice
03-13-2009, 12:28 PM
Could be Pochet but I can't imagine that LE hasn't checked that out IMO

They would have checked it out . They say they are satisfied with that time frame. They have checked with his boss and co workers to see if there was any time frame that Ron was unaccounted for.

Texas48
03-13-2009, 12:30 PM
Ron has a supposed alibi, he has grieving tendancies, he comes off as this loving father....but I can't get him off my "full of crap" list! I don't know what it is...lol..ICE..We must remember..Ron was at work...joke..lol..I agree w/your list.

KatyDid
03-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Coached?

Not on your life. Who's going to do this coaching? Her mother who signed for them to get married because people were talking bad about her? Ron's mother who says that they didn't have time to get married before? GGM Sykes who says that Misty will be the new mommy?

That's blind leading the blind, IMO.

I don't know who, if anyone, is talking with them. Being coached is just one of many things that could account for the difference in her *performance*. It's quite apparent Misty's persona changed from yesterday to this morning.

IMO

playnice
03-13-2009, 12:31 PM
lol..ICE..We must remember..Ron was at work...joke..lol..I agree w/your list.

so you think LE is lying now too?

FoxySly
03-13-2009, 12:33 PM
Why does Misty always wear oversized coats?

I noticed that too maybe because I also do during the cold season & mine are hand-me-downs from old boyfriends, cousins & such.

I don't know maybe it's all she has. I can't help but think her parents didn't do much & care about her a whole lot with the fact being she is not in school & hasn't been for who knows how long.

IMO parent aren't much at being parents if they don't at least make sure that their Children get the free education up to 12th grade.
I thought there were laws to throw such parents in jail for that.

With all these Florida cases going on it seems like a strange place to me.

Sly

~

PBJMOM4
03-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Misty may not be book smart, but that girl sure is street smart...She's not as innocent as some tend to think....She set her eyes on Ron back when she was babysitting Amber's child, and nothing was going to stop her from getting what SHE WANTED....

To me, Ron is the naive one...

I totally agree with you regarding Misty. Part of me thinks she is "afraid" of getting back handed by Ron, as if she needs permission to make a move, and stronger part of me believes she is nothing more than a manipulator.

Peaches
03-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Fellow Posters...............please, please find HaLeigh.

See you this afternoon!

psbperu
03-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Am stating this again:


Your child is missing so you get engaged & then marry a girl who looks like a child herself. A 17 year old that you entrusted with the care of your children.

The Today Show interview could have been done in Florida with a split screen...was it the offer of a paid honeymoon that influenced the "happy" couple to go to New York?

Whatever are these two thinking? Where are their priorities?

Leads one to think .. certainly not with finding out where Haleigh is.