Friday 3/13 Hope for Haleigh

[Breazy]

I dont think she is afraid of him. she didnt have to marry him. she could have told her mom she was scared and not to sign those papers. Misti is the only one looking happy about this marriage.

I didn't say "scared", I said fear - meaning fear of what Ron would do to her. There are many abused women who still love their mate and choose to stay with them.

[Motomom]

Snipped to address.

Well He77, that just slapped my face awake. I'll blame it my being sick, LOL

HOpe you feel better.. why did it slap you in the face? Because MAYBE that IS what happened? You know he COULD be covering in that way, just so she doesn't look bad? You think he would do that though? I'd say this is his daughter but I'll share something personal. A friend came home from work and found her son dead. SIDS Her story changed a few times. She came home and fed him and laid him back down was one. She came home and checked him and he was fine, only to see a few minutes later he was gone. She attempted CPR but it was sadly too late. Husband was drunk that day. Husband was also a very abusive man. The baby died of SIDS..but because hubby couldnt walk a straight line, her story to us was always a bit different. I dont think she wanted to admit that her baby died in his drunken fathers care. It never sat right with alot of people. We knew (as much as you can) that he didnt harm the baby. We knew for a fact she was at work.. yet She insisted that she checked him when she got home and he was fine.. Soooooo...

[crymeariver2006]

Ron is either very smart or a da## fool.Wish I could figure out which one he is.I don't think they married for love.lol Misty looks scared in the Today show interview and Ron looks unhappy as he## since he married Misty.IMO

He looked unhappy on that day in front of the courthouse when they got the license.

That hasn't changed.

JMO

[FoxySly]

I found it..Her b'day is 12/09/1991

Okay. that's the beginning of our chart!

Anyone know where she was born?

Florida has open records for most everything.
Here's another search engine that use to be a good one don't know if it still is:http://www.zabasearch.com/

Sly

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[Motomom]

Well she was the last known person to be seen with her & I am sure that LE would be working to clear her just as hard as they would her bio parents.

Statistics show that it is usually a close family member.

I was so hoping it was crystal & team/family... better chance for her to be alive.

If it's a SO she suffered terrible & is most likely dead.

If a jealous misty ugg.

Sly

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I originally said all good points.. but I meant that your scenarios are right on.

[Breazy]

I'm not really up on the timeline, but does anyone know when the last time Haleigh was seen alive by anyone other than Misti, and what time Ron started his shift at work?


Supposedly she was seen by Ron's grandmother about 7:00 p.m. However, the timeline is coming strictly from Ron/Misty/Ron's family member. How do we really know that something didn't happen BEFORE Ron left for work?

[playnice]

Misti has been bouncing all over the place with excitement because she was getting married and boasting about it.
Well they got married. The bride got drilled last night so hard she walked out. that must have put a damper on things. She looked sad this morning. so her and Ron may have already had a problem after her questioning. She probably thought this show was about her wedding and she got smacked down again by Meredith. 2 alarms for Ron since last night.
Gosh Id like to be a fly on the wall and see what is going on.
Maybe it was planned to happen this way. Let her have her bubble and then just burst it and get her all vulnerable.
Something has been going on . I wish we knew what.

[5boxersmom]

Supposedly she was seen by Ron's grandmother about 7:00 p.m. However, the timeline is coming strictly from Ron/Misty/Ron's family member. How do we really know that something didn't happen BEFORE Ron left for work?

I thought the A/C man saw her and so did a neighbor after Ron went to work?

imo

[Owlface]

I dont think she is afraid of him. she didnt have to marry him. she could have told her mom she was scared and not to sign those papers. Misti is the only one looking happy about this marriage.


Misty wouldn't be the first one to think that everything will change once they get married.

[Motomom]

She looked at Ron to get his reaction and said "I dont know." I think she knew at that moment she has some explaining to do. I think she was caught completely off guard with that question of Why.

totally caught off guard!! She looked to him and he gave nothing.. GOOD.. All she has to do is tell the TRUTH..thats it.. just the truth.

[Hopeintown]

Supposedly she was seen by Ron's grandmother about 7:00 p.m. However, the timeline is coming strictly from Ron/Misty/Ron's family member. How do we really know that something didn't happen BEFORE Ron left for work?

That's a very good question.

[playnice]

Supposedly she was seen by Ron's grandmother about 7:00 p.m. However, the timeline is coming strictly from Ron/Misty/Ron's family member. How do we really know that something didn't happen BEFORE Ron left for work?

a few days ago, LE said a neighbor was the last person that saw her . They didnt release the time. So Im not sure they are going on family word. And they seem confident that Ron didnt have anything to do with it. Thats the most info they have given out.

[FoxySly]

Misty, Hank, and Destiney all have the same address.

Do they all have they same last name? What are their birth years?

Sly

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[playnice]

Id like to know what the neighbors were hearing at 2:30 because that throws Misti's timeline off.

[5boxersmom]

Do they all have they same last name? What are their birth years?

Sly

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I saw a post on one of the SIL's myspace asking about Uncle Hank. I can't remember if it was Lynsey's or Chelsea? Is that the brothers wives names?

imo

[Breazy]

I thought the A/C man saw her and so did a neighbor after Ron went to work?

imo

That may be true and I missed it. It's hard keeping up with all that goes on with this case, lol. So if true, that shoots my thought of Ron harming Haleigh out of the water but I still feel like Misty is covering for Ron for some reason. Maybe Haleigh did get into Ron's drugs, making both guilty in a way, Misty for being negligent and not watching her close enough and Ron for having drugs in the house that Haleigh could get into. I don't know but the control Ron has over Misty is quite apparent.

[kitty1182]

Okay. that's the beginning of our chart!

Anyone know where she was born?

Florida has open records for most everything.
Here's another search engine that use to be a good one don't know if it still is:http://www.zabasearch.com/

Sly

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I don't know where she was born..
Timmy (brother) 6/21/87
Tommy(brother) 9/26/86

[Politigal]

*If* Misty is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance....who would be the most likely person to help her out........

her mom or her brothers

According to phone searches, her mom did reside on Marlin St in Satsuma, but her drivers license shows a 2009 update to 202 Sunglow.

And of course, you turn right on Buffalo Bluff to get there.....

[MrLucky917B]

What airport would Ron and Misti fly in to?

I wonder if they are coming home today or spending the weekend in NY? No other shows would probably be doing interviews with them with it being the weekend. Unless they are on NG or Greta tonight. Is NG is NY? LKL is in LA? Right? I don't think they would be doing the Geraldo show this weekend.:biggrin:

Closest airport is Gainesville, but they don't have many flights, Daytona would be closer than Jacksonville but again not many flights, so it would probably be Jacksonville.

JMO

[RoxyWest]

That may be true and I missed it. It's hard keeping up with all that goes on with this case, lol. So if true, that shoots my thought of Ron harming Haleigh out of the water but I still feel like Misty is covering for Ron for some reason. Maybe Haleigh did get into Ron's drugs, making both guilty in a way, Misty for being negligent and not watching her close enough and Ron for having drugs in the house that Haleigh could get into. I don't know but the control Ron has over Misty is quite apparent.

Yet she looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. And he is not acting the happy bridegroom.

It's a puzzler!

[5boxersmom]

Closest airport is Gainesville, but they don't have many flights, Daytona would be closer than Jacksonville but again not many flights, so it would probably be Jacksonville.

JMO

TY. Going to check if any flights coming in from NY tonight.

[kitty1182]

The Today show might have put them up in room for the whole week-end since it's the honeymoon..lol

[Breazy]

Yet she looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. And he is not acting the happy bridegroom.

It's a puzzler!


But if Misty is covering for Ron in some way, the marriage makes sense. It would be a way for Ron to keep control over her and she wouldn't have to testify against him. Also, Misty gets what she wants by having Ron marry her.

[MrLucky917B]

TY. Going to check if any flights coming in from NY tonight.

Some media outlets said they will be up there over the weekend...

JMO

[bama__angel]

*If* Misty is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance....who would be the most likely person to help her out........

her mom or her brothers

According to phone searches, her mom did reside on Marlin St in Satsuma, but her drivers license shows a 2009 update to 202 Sunglow.

And of course, you turn right on Buffalo Bluff to get there.....



Her brothers....IIRC, Misty has a brother who lives near her.....or maybe in the same trailer park......IMO

[5boxersmom]

Some media outlets said they will be up there over the weekend...

JMO

Oh okay. Several flights coming in from NY anyway. Be to hard to track.

imo

[bama__angel]

But if Misty is covering for Ron in some way, the marriage makes sense. It would be a way for Ron to keep control over her and she wouldn't have to testify against him. Also, Misty gets what she wants by having Ron marry her.



Marital privalege doesnt not apply to anything that happened before they were married.......

[Peaches]

TY. Going to check if any flights coming in from NY tonight.


I read and heard that they were staying in NY for the week-end.

I read and heard that TN was watching Ron, Jr. during the time they are gone.

Why did they not allow Crystal to keep her son?

moo

[FoxySly]

I hope it alright to link this.
There is quite a long list of relatives from all sides of the family's.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0

Thank you Sammy.

Sly

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[Breazy]

Marital privalege doesnt not apply to anything that happened before they were married.......


According to the reporter that was speaking before they were interviewed on the Today Show that's not the case.

[CatS48]

He looked unhappy on that day in front of the courthouse when they got the license.

That hasn't changed.

JMO

Jumping right in here. He did not look happy at the wedding either. The clip from the Today show - she did not look at him as she said her vows.

For some reason I think Ronald was pressured into this wedding too. It is either that she is pregnant and all of the family thought he needed to do this, or it has to do with the "can not testify against a spouse" thing. Either way - he was not a happy camper at all.

[Beth Englema]

But if Misty is covering for Ron in some way, the marriage makes sense. It would be a way for Ron to keep control over her and she wouldn't have to testify against him. Also, Misty gets what she wants by having Ron marry her.

They might be covering for each other if something happened earlier before Ron went to work and the results did not become apparent until after he went to work. Also, Ron might be blackmailed by Misty with her saying that she might tell something to point LE in his direction. It might be unrelated to Haleigh going missing but he wouldn't want known nevertheless.

[Peaches]

According to the reporter that was speaking before they were interviewed on the Today Show stated otherwise.



Breazy,

Marital privalege doesnt not apply to anything that happened before they were married.......

Everyone I have listened to on tv has said this. Maybe person you listened to earlier had it incorrect.

moo

[5boxersmom]

I read and heard that they were staying in NY for the week-end.

I read and heard that TN was watching Ron, Jr. during the time they are gone.

Why did they not allow Crystal to keep her son?

moo

This is her weekend to have him. I think.

imo

[5swab5]

The Today show might have put them up in room for the whole week-end since it's the honeymoon..lol

I missed the very beginning of the Today Show this morning. Ron looked anything but happy.
Were they already seated or did it show them walking onto the set? Is Misty walking two steps behind him yet? MOO

[SwineFeld]

They were already seated. Here is the full interview.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

I missed the very beginning of the Today Show this morning. Ron looked anything but happy.
Were they already seated or did it show them walking onto the set? Is Misty walking two steps behind him yet? MOO

[justagal71]

wow,,,is all i can say. i just watched the today show. from the way i viewed it that wedding was a sham, ron did not look happy at all, they werent even looking at each other saying their vows. this is only my opinion, but either le has encouraged ron to gain mistys confidence and that is why he married her or they both know something and this way he has her at arms reach and thinks he can control the situation.

[Squeekie]

Susan Moss is the one on Nancy Grace the other night that said the spousal priviledge doesn't apply (at all) when it comes to a case involving a child.

Not sure what night it was so i'll label this JMO

[catdoc]

I seriosly doubt that NBC is paying for more than 1 night with 3 meals(probably in the hotel). They didn't even show any new pics or video that I've seen, so no licensing fees. I also doubt that Ron could pay for any extra time in NY. Their return flight was probably prearranged at time of booking. Usually nothing is paid for after the interview is over. That's been my personal experience but I'm no expert on morning news showsl

Very significant that Ron offered no support when Misti looked to him for help with the "Why the different stories?" question. I thought he was listening for the answer too. Didn't even meet her eyes. Acts like he was forced into the marriage and not happy about it. Wonder what "forced" him. :confused:

[Shells2]

I was just thinking somethin'..

Misty had guests over that night that left around six right?

IF Ron worked till 3am, he probably started at 7pm. What if something happened to Haleigh BEFORE Ron left for work..

Did anyone see Haleigh after Ron left for work?

[SwineFeld]

I thought it was said that Ron left for work around 4:30pm? And yes, I thought several people saw her after he was already gone.

I was just thinking somethin'..

Misty had guests over that night that left around six right?

IF Ron worked till 3am, he probably started at 7pm. What if something happened to Haleigh BEFORE Ron left for work..

Did anyone see Haleigh after Ron left for work?

[RoxyWest]

But if Misty is covering for Ron in some way, the marriage makes sense. It would be a way for Ron to keep control over her and she wouldn't have to testify against him. Also, Misty gets what she wants by having Ron marry her.

I agree, but the puzzle for me is what does she have on him.

Of course if that's true, that puts a whole new light on why he might be pizzed that all of a sudden her inconsistent statements seem to be at the center of the case.

[kitty1182]

I was just thinking somethin'..

Misty had guests over that night that left around six right?

IF Ron worked till 3am, he probably started at 7pm. What if something happened to Haleigh BEFORE Ron left for work..

Did anyone see Haleigh after Ron left for work?


HI Sis.I think he said he picked her up at the bus stop, dropped her off at the house and he went to work..If he worked a 12 hr.s shift, he must have had to been at work around 3pm..

[cat3]

Since the Today show interview is pretty much all we have today as far as information,I wondered if anyone caught the eye roll and mouth pucker from Misty when Ron said that the focus should be on Haleigh?
I hate to base a lot on body/facial language,but I do wonder after hearing how much Ron loved and doted on Haleigh,if Misty might have been jealous of their relationship.
Misty IIRC has had some abuse in her past.No links so JMO.

[FoxySly]

totally caught off guard!! She looked to him and he gave nothing.. GOOD.. All she has to do is tell the TRUTH..thats it.. just the truth.


Yup, but that nothing spoke volumes loud & clear.

Sly

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[Beth Englema]

Since the Today show interview is pretty much all we have today as far as information,I wondered if anyone caught the eye roll and mouth pucker from Misty when Ron said that the focus should be on Haleigh?
I hate to base a lot on body/facial language,but I do wonder after hearing how much Ron loved and doted on Haleigh,if Misty might have been jealous of their relationship.
Misty IIRC has had some abuse in her past.No links so JMO. She acted like the child that she is.... some teenagers are more mature than others and some get street smart but not much more.

I think that jealousy and bad behavior is her way of coping and acting out how to solve problems on how to get what she wants which is what children do. Yes, I do know that this does not apply to all children.

[SwFlorida]

Jumping right in here. He did not look happy at the wedding either. The clip from the Today show - she did not look at him as she said her vows.

For some reason I think Ronald was pressured into this wedding too. It is either that she is pregnant and all of the family thought he needed to do this, or it has to do with the "can not testify against a spouse" thing. Either way - he was not a happy camper at all.

I noticed that they didn't face each other during their vows also, thought it was quite odd, and her all dressed up and RC wearing jeans...True :wub:

[playnice]

Since the Today show interview is pretty much all we have today as far as information,I wondered if anyone caught the eye roll and mouth pucker from Misty when Ron said that the focus should be on Haleigh?
I hate to base a lot on body/facial language,but I do wonder after hearing how much Ron loved and doted on Haleigh,if Misty might have been jealous of their relationship.
Misty IIRC has had some abuse in her past.No links so JMO.

A senior sheriff's official, asked by the Daily News if investigators were satisfied with results of the interviews of the couple, expressed concern about "inconsistencies" in Croslin's statements.



Investigators are focusing on the eight hours from when Haleigh was last seen - about 7 p.m. on Feb. 9 - and when she was reported missing the next day at 3:27 a.m., Maj. Gary Bowling said Thursday.

"Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said.

Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said.Investigators also met with the 25-year-old Cummings, he said.

"We are satisfied with the interviews that we have had so far with Ronald, and his account of the eight hours in question," Bowling added.Detectives are building a timeline including anyone who had contact with Haleigh during that time. Bowling described the repeated questioning sessions as a normal part of a major investigation.


Bowling said investigators believe clearing up Croslin's inconsistent statements would help solve the disappearance.Croslin declined to be interviewed when contacted Thursday by the Daily News.



http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/13/news/news01.txt


For those coming on late and havent seen this.

[Themis]

<Respectfully snipped>
Very significant that Ron offered no support when Misti looked to him for help with the "Why the different stories?" question. I thought he was listening for the answer too. Didn't even meet her eyes. Acts like he was forced into the marriage and not happy about it. Wonder what "forced" him. :confused:
Reference Catdog's post 729
IMO, the driving force behind the marriage is Teresa Neves. I would not leave out her mother, Annette Sykes, either. RC having custody is of paramount importance to TN and so is the 'family image.' I think there has been a long standing feud between TN and Marie Griffis, hence all the sly and covert insults directed toward Sheffield/Griffis.
I believe both TN and AS think they easily can control Misty, and him now being married would look better in a custody battle and, hopefully, prevent charges against RC for his alleged relationship with a 17 year old.
No matter what TN and AS say, RC wanting to propose to Misty was not a surprise to them. Whether it was TN's engagement ring or AS's ring neither woman as I see them would pull a ring of her finger to give to Ron to give to Misty without a real incentive. That is, IF we believe it was a paternal family ring. Ron's history tells me he is not the marrying kind. So, why now and why Misty?

Another thing, there has to be some reason behind his being charged 3 times for drugs in one form or another and all 3 times having the charges dropped. It may be due to snitching or because of connection with local LE. Seems hard to believe all 3 times the charges were totally unfounded, but it is possible. [JMO]

[Shells2]

HI Sis.I think he said he picked her up at the bus stop, dropped her off at the house and he went to work..If he worked a 12 hr.s shift, he must have had to been at work around 3pm..

Oh darn.. I didn't realize it was a 12 hour shift .. ok.. nix that theory.. :thumbdown:

[KatyDid]

Ron does look miserable in the wedding video. They didn't kiss either.

Very weird.

From the photos released so far Misty is the only one happy in that union.

She didn't look so happy this morning during the interview. IMO

[Grandview]

Susan Moss is the one on Nancy Grace the other night that said the spousal priviledge doesn't apply (at all) when it comes to a case involving a child.

Not sure what night it was so i'll label this JMO

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/10/ng.01.html
GRACE: And Susan Moss, does this mean they cannot testify against each other, if it comes to that at trial?

MOSS: It does not mean that. There`s an exception to the spousal privilege if it involves hurting a child.


Plus lots of attorneys (TH's) have stated that the spousal immunity is NOT retroactive; meaning before the marriage then there is NO immunity.

imo

[Leather&Lace]

I keep turning this thing over and over in my mind. a couple things come to me. At first I thought Ron's reaction to hearing that his daughter was missing was off and I still do. I'm paraphrasing here but he immediately vowed to kill "them" even if he spent the rest of his life in jail for it. I thought a more common reaction would be to say:" quick, search the house, the yard, the woods etc. The door is open she must have wandered out, etc. etc." but then later as I was thinking about it I remember something he said that I think he wouldn't have said if he had been guilty of something that Misty was helping him "cover" for. he said something to the effect of "Bit**, why the f%** did YOU let my daughter get stole?" Now it seems to me that he would have to know that making a remark like that might cause a 17 year old to say somthing defensive like:" ME? YOU were the one who did xxxxx" If she were covering for him, that would have been a really incendiary remark to make. It would have incensed me in the same circumstances. Another thing that makes me think there is something really odd in his behavior at the wedding is that he didn't even show the respect of wearing a suit. Is that the way he would have dressed if the wedding had been in the church? It says something to me either about his feelings about the "wedding" or his personality and the message is not good. Is is possible that he married Misty to get out of a possible statuatory rape charge or to look more respectable in an upcoming custody case. He's married, I don't think Crystal is. That might count for something in a custody case. Is it possible that Haleigh saw Misty do something that night and threatened to tattle to her father when he returned home? It's not a stretch to imagine that a 17 year old might see a 5 year old as a tattletale who was going to get her in trouble with "Daddy". Maybe she decided that she needed to silence the tattletale for once and for all. Just some nagging thoughts I'm having.

Bold-ed your statement.. I have also played with the speculation that maybe Misty was going to handle a drug purchase that night while Ronald was off "trying to earn an honest living". Something went wrong during that exchange. Cannot put my finger on it but I still believe Misty is the key.

JMO

[playnice]

From the photos released so far Misty is the only one happy in that union.

She didn't look so happy this morning during the interview. IMO

I think the hard questions from LE last night took all the excitement out of the newlywed because she may have some explaining to do to her husband.

[heidi]

:angry:Meredith "I think part of the problem Misty has been a certain number of inconsistencies or what's perceived to be inconsistencies because you first said that haleigh was in bed with you then said she was on a mattress next to you, this is an opportunity to clarify you've had time to think through what happened that night, can you walk us through it one more time misty, your best recollection of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared?"

Misty: "Well i put her to bed at 8 o'clock, I was washing my blankets, OUR blankets..........." Big red flag, she switches from "my" blankets to "our blankets" I think Haleigh may have started off sleeping with Misty, pee'd the bed and it's anyones guess what happened after that. I also think that is why Misty can't keep the blanket story or who slept with her that night, straight.

moo
Yes,I have always suspected Haleigh wet the large bed and Misty tried to clean it up after throwing a fit someone probably threw the child against the wall or water heater<that was mentioned earlier>
opened the door to drag her outside.
MISTY knows I betcha

[FoxySly]

DAYTONA AVE
FLAGLER BEACH, FL

Is this a familiar address?

Sly

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[SwineFeld]

I'm sure she meant Haleigh's mattress. After all, who says mattress? You would naturally still call it a bed even if it was just a mattress on the floor.

I just listened to the video from the today show, twice, Misty specifically says haleigh was in the bed" BED" NOT the mattress.

[missinglink]

Well, I've come to the end of my rope trying to figure out what possibly could have happened to Haleigh.

You are going to probably make fun of me and think I'm crazy, but I am going to ask my grandma, spiritually, what happened.

I've done this many times before with all kinds of questions to her, and she has answered me every time.

I won't be back on the board until Tuesday, but hopefully I'll have my answer by then.

Throw stones, if you want to, but my grandma and I can communicate.

[Leather&Lace]

From the photos released so far Misty is the only one happy in that union.

She didn't look so happy this morning during the interview. IMO

Hi Katy, I noticed that. No telling what kind of night they had last night. Misty just look like a kid to me. Just really young looking and immature. Geesh. IA

[Breazy]

They might be covering for each other if something happened earlier before Ron went to work and the results did not become apparent until after he went to work. Also, Ron might be blackmailed by Misty with her saying that she might tell something to point LE in his direction. It might be unrelated to Haleigh going missing but he wouldn't want known nevertheless.


I agree. This case is mind boggling. I'll just be glad when LE gets it all figured out and explains it to us, lol.

[Breazy]

Breazy,

Marital privalege doesnt not apply to anything that happened before they were married.......

Everyone I have listened to on tv has said this. Maybe person you listened to earlier had it incorrect.

moo

Possibly so. I don't have a clue myself but I think I'll do some research . . .

[RoxyWest]

Well, I've come to the end of my rope trying to figure out what possibly could have happened to Haleigh.

You are going to probably make fun of me and think I'm crazy, but I am going to ask my grandma, spiritually, what happened.

I've done this many times before with all kinds of questions to her, and she has answered me every time.

I won't be back on the board until Tuesday, but hopefully I'll have my answer by then.

Throw stones, if you want to, but my grandma and I can communicate.

I hope grandma has the answer and gives it to you. Have a nice weekend. :seeya:

[kitty1182]

Well, I've come to the end of my rope trying to figure out what possibly could have happened to Haleigh.

You are going to probably make fun of me and think I'm crazy, but I am going to ask my grandma, spiritually, what happened.

I've done this many times before with all kinds of questions to her, and she has answered me every time.

I won't be back on the board until Tuesday, but hopefully I'll have my answer by then.

Throw stones, if you want to, but my grandma and I can communicate.

No stones from me......:smile:

[SwFlorida]

Well, I've come to the end of my rope trying to figure out what possibly could have happened to Haleigh.

You are going to probably make fun of me and think I'm crazy, but I am going to ask my grandma, spiritually, what happened.

I've done this many times before with all kinds of questions to her, and she has answered me every time.

I won't be back on the board until Tuesday, but hopefully I'll have my answer by then.

Throw stones, if you want to, but my grandma and I can communicate.
Not making fun or calling you crazy..But we have to wait until Tuesday to see what grandma said..

See you Tuesday..Have a wonderful weekend..:seeya:

[playnice]

Possibly so. I don't have a clue myself but I think I'll do some research . . .

There was a link posted here somewhere with the law that states that it doesnt apply if it happened BEFORE the marriage and NOT when involving a child if someone knows how to use the search function to find it. Im not any good at that.:sad:

[Beth Englema]

I think the hard questions from LE last night took all the excitement out of the newlywed because she may have some explaining to do to her husband.This is what I understand and please correct me if I am wrong. Ron and Misty got married on Thursday and then LE had her in for questioning and then they flew to New York.... all on the same day? WOW what a day that must of been.

Did I also understand correctly that she walked out of the questioning with LE because they were putting too much pressure on her to straighten out her story? If Misty was a teenage boy that was babysitting Haleigh, I think there would be fireworks instead of back pats with understanding concern from family and friends. Which of course is just my opinion.

[Breazy]

Not only that but marital privilege says you don't have to testify against your spouse, it doesn't mean you can't.

Sorry, you'll never convince me that Ron would protect Misty if he thought she harmed his daughter.


But do you believe that Misty would protect Ron?

[cat3]

She acted like the child that she is.... some teenagers are more mature than others and some get street smart but not much more.

I think that jealousy and bad behavior is her way of coping and acting out how to solve problems on how to get what she wants which is what children do. Yes, I do know that this does not apply to all children.

Good point.I also mentioned on another thread that part of this may be due to Misty's age.I just can't figure out why though,she gets an attitude when she is asked questions in regards to Haleigh.You can see it in every interview she has had.Could be she is just defensive and it is normal for her age group to resent being questioned.IMO

[RoxyWest]

This is what I understand and please correct me if I am wrong. Ron and Misty got married on Thursday and then LE had her in for questioning and then they flew to New York.... all on the same day? WOW what a day that must of been.

Did I also understand correctly that she walked out of the questioning with LE because they were putting too much pressure on her to straighten out her story? If Misty was a teenage boy that was babysitting Haleigh, I think there would be fireworks instead of back pats with understanding concern from family and friends. Which of course is just my opinion.

IIRC, the questioning was on Wednesday or Wednesday night--before the wedding. That's when she walked out.

[Themis]

HI Sis.I think he said he picked her up at the bus stop, dropped her off at the house and he went to work..If he worked a 12 hr.s shift, he must have had to been at work around 3pm..
Reference Kitty1182's post 734

A poster named Breeze53 actually called his employer and asked questions about shifts at the plant.

Here is the last post by Breeze53 on Ron Cummings Work Schedule:

Breeze53, 3-12-09, Post #245

"The info is in my posts that were some how lost on here but if someone can post again where he works i will call them again, i was thinking it was 430 til 3 am and weekends were 12 hr shifts."

So, RC worked 10 hour shifts -- 4 days per week. [JMO]

[kitty1182]

IIRC, the questioning was on Wednesday or Wednesday night--before the wedding. That's when she walked out.

I think that's right...

[catdoc]

I'm sure she meant Haleigh's mattress. After all, who says mattress? You would naturally still call it a bed even if it was just a mattress on the floor.

You're right, besides her bed was just a mattress too. Should she have said "the other mattress"?

[SwFlorida]

I know one thing, LE aren't throwing us any bones to naw on..

[kitty1182]

Reference Kitty1182's post 734

A poster named Breeze53 actually called his employer and asked questions about shifts at the plant.

Here is the last post by Breeze53 on Ron Cummings Work Schedule:

Breeze53, 3-12-09, Post #245

"The info is in my posts that were some how lost on here but if someone can post again where he works i will call them again, i was thinking it was 430 til 3 am and weekends were 12 hr shifts."

So, RC worked 10 hour shifts -- 4 days per week. [JMO]


Thanks..:smile:

[playnice]

I think that's right...

I wonder if Ron knew she walked out when it happened or just found out during that interview?

If he went ahead and married her he is really stupid or he is up to something.

[kitty1182]

I wonder if Ron knew she walked out when it happened or just found out during that interview?

If he went ahead and married her he is really stupid or he is up to something.

He might not have known she walked out..:sneaky:

[SwineFeld]

I'm pretty sure he knew about it. You would have to go back and watch the interview to be sure but I'm almost positive.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

ETA: I just watched that part again and it appears Ron knew because, when Misty complains how they were treating her, he even busts in and adds "even after she passed her LDT."

I wonder if Ron knew she walked out when it happened or just found out during that interview?

If he went ahead and married her he is really stupid or he is up to something.

[Beth Englema]

IIRC, the questioning was on Wednesday or Wednesday night--before the wedding. That's when she walked out. Thank you for clearing that up. Did she also state that the person who questioned her by asking really difficult questions was the reason that she walked out? I wonder what Ron thought of that since he has been pleading for information about Haleigh and Misty refused to clear up her story to LE.

[Breazy]

I think the hard questions from LE last night took all the excitement out of the newlywed because she may have some explaining to do to her husband.

It was Wednesday that she walked out of the police interview, the day before the marriage.

[SwFlorida]

I wonder if Ron knew she walked out when it happened or just found out during that interview?

If he went ahead and married her he is really stupid or he is up to something.
Oh come on..The cop was being rude to her..After all she didn't do "IT" :wink:..

[KatyDid]

I think the hard questions from LE last night took all the excitement out of the newlywed because she may have some explaining to do to her husband.

LE came right out and said today that there are problems with inconsistencies in Misty's statements. I'm not so sure she *passed* that polygraph.

I wondered if this morning during the interview was the first time Ron heard about the inconsistencies. When Meredith asked Misty about the inconsistencies and she couldn't answer (big red flag), did Ron start to wonder more then?

Surely he and his family have asked her over and over about the events of that night. Surely they know the girl's statements don't add up.

[kitty1182]

Thank you for clearing that up. Did she also state that the person who questioned her by asking really difficult questions was the reason that she walked out? I wonder what Ron thought of that since he has been pleading for information about Haleigh and Misty refused to clear up her story to LE.

Seems like she said the person told her she was lying..IIRC

[IlliniFan]

I posted this earlier:

Florida Statute of 2008
'90.504 Husband-wife privilege.
(1) A spouse has a privilege during and after the marital relationship to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, communications which were intended to be made in confidence between the spouses while they were husband and wife.
(2) The privilege may be claimed by either spouse or by the guardian or conservator of a spouse. The authority of a spouse, or guardian or conservator of a spouse, to claim the privilege is presumed in the absence of contrary evidence.
(3) There is no privilege under this section:
(a) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse.
(b) In a criminal proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime committed at any time against the person or property of the other spouse, or the person or property of a child of either.
(c) In a criminal proceeding in which the communication is offered in evidence by a defendant-spouse who is one of the spouses between whom the communication was made.'

Privilege doesn't apply if one spouse is charged w crime against a child of either husband or wife.

courtesy of another poster on another Web Site .. I don't have the link so just putting jmoo

originally posted by oddesey...

[playnice]

They are showing this on cnn and the look on Rons face is like he is gritting his teeth with disgust when she says she doesnt know.
I think he just got hit with a wammy this morning.

[Beth Englema]

Oh come on..The cop was being rude to her..After all she didn't do "IT" :wink:.. That is right, whatever IT is and only Misty knows what that IT is, in my opinion.

[Themis]

They are showing this on cnn and the look on Rons face is like he is gritting his teeth with disgust when she says she doesnt know.
I think he just got hit with a wammy this morning.
Do you suppose that Teresa Neves made sure Misty signed a
prenuptial agreement? [JMO]

[RoxyWest]

Thank you for clearing that up. Did she also state that the person who questioned her by asking really difficult questions was the reason that she walked out? I wonder what Ron thought of that since he has been pleading for information about Haleigh and Misty refused to clear up her story to LE.

HLN just showed part of the Today show clip. Don't have her exact words, but the new guy was rude and was accusing her of lying.

[IlliniFan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_privilege



The privilege is usually restricted to confidential communications made during marriage and does not include communications made before the marriage or after divorce. The privilege does, however, generally survive the divorce; that is, a person can be prevented from testifying about confidential communications with an ex-spouse made during the marriage.

snipped and bolded by me......

also.....Ron worked from 4:30 - 3:00Am

[FoxySly]

I saw a post on one of the SIL's myspace asking about Uncle Hank. I can't remember if it was Lynsey's or Chelsea? Is that the brothers wives names?

imo

Yup, Hank (named after his father) Thomas Croslin Jr (aka Tommy) is m. to Chelsea.

Croslin Hank Thomas Sr -------\
? ? Lisa--------------/ married & had Children:


Hank Thomas Jr (aka Tommy)
Timothy A. (aka Timmy)
Misty Jeanette b. 9 Dec. 1991

Unsure of birth order right now & dial up is way slow today.

Sly

~

[KatyDid]

They are showing this on cnn and the look on Rons face is like he is gritting his teeth with disgust when she says she doesnt know.
I think he just got hit with a wammy this morning.

That is what I thought too when watching it this morning. He looks mad. She is looking to him for help answering, and no way is he giving her the satisfaction.

[FoxySly]

I don't know where she was born..
Timmy (brother) 6/21/87
Tommy(brother) 9/26/86


Thanks Kitty.

Sly

`

[Beth Englema]

Seems like she said the person told her she was lying..IIRCReally?
As I said earlier, if I were innocent, I would tell them everything that happened that night from the minute Ron left until the moment he walked in the door. If LE said that I was lying, it would bother me but I would not walk but would stay to prove my point. But then I am a mature woman and Misty isn't and may have something to hide.

[5boxersmom]

ITA. If I slept on a mattress, or on the floor, or on a futon, I would say "I'm going to bed", not, "I'm going to mattress or floor or futon".

:biggrin::lol: True that. That was funny. I am still laughing.

imo

[5boxersmom]

That is what I thought too when watching it this morning. He looks mad. She is looking to him for help answering, and no way is he giving her the satisfaction.

Sure is different from the Greta interview ealry on when he would help her answer. Think maybe Ron did not have a clue about a few things until this morning. Wonder who tipped Meredith off?

imo

[Beth Englema]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4KvgPF8cak

I watched it again and something hit me like a ton of bricks just now.

Aside from the fact that Misty is back to saying that she woke up at 3:00am and then she "went to the bathroom" and noticed the kitchen lights were on and the back door was open she is saying that she then went back to her bedroom to get her phone to call Ron, notices Haliegh is missing and then calls Ron but that Ron was already there.
So my guesstimation is that it took 20 or so minutes from when she woke up until she was calling for Ron but that he was already there... From what I understand she went from her bed to the kitchen area where she ultimately noticed the door was open then walks back to the bedroom to get her phone to call Ron and notices Haleigh is gone she then calls Ron but then she says Ron was already home and Ron states she was either opening the door or standing in the door depending on which one of Ron's versions that you believe.

For Misty I'm thinking that all took approx 20 minutes minimum of her time including her search for Haleigh which she claims she did. Soooo what time did Ron get home exactly? Ron says around 3:00 am. Misty claims she woke up at 3:00am.
It just doesn't add up by my estimations.In one of Misty's stories, she only said that she noticed the number 3 on the clock and not sure the exact time.

[Themis]

Really?
As I said earlier, if I were innocent, I would tell them everything that happened that night from the minute Ron left until the moment he walked in the door. If LE said that I was lying, it would bother me but I would not walk but would stay to prove my point. But then I am a mature woman and Misty isn't and may have something to hide.
See last paragraph in the link below for what Misty said about Wednesday's interview and why she walked out of it.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1562416/haleigh_cummings_father_and_new_wife.html?cat=9

[JMO]

[KatyDid]

Sure is different from the Greta interview ealry on when he would help her answer. Think maybe Ron did not have a clue about a few things until this morning. Wonder who tipped Meredith off?

imo

Yeppers, it looked like Ron got blindsided by some information this morning. One thing Misty and Ron have continued to say is they *passed* the polygraph. Me thinks not on Misty's part if LE is stating on national media there are inconsistencies with her story.

I would love to know who tipped Meridith off too.

[Beth Englema]

See last paragraph in the link below for what Misty said about Wednesday's interview and why she walked out of it.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1562416/haleigh_cummings_father_and_new_wife.html?cat=9

[JMO]The cop wasn't nice to her was what I gather is the reason she left. Since when do investigators in a missing person case trying to find a missing 5 year old girl have to be nice to the last person known to have been with the child? If it were my child missing, I wouldn't care how nice they were as long as they were trying to do their job and get results.

[SwFlorida]

Do you suppose that Teresa Neves made sure Misty signed a
prenuptial agreement? [JMO]
:lol: I'm sorry..this is not a laughting matter, made me giggle.

Bring Haleigh home..:rose:

[?noanswer]

This is one time I cannot make up my mind about who might be involved.

RE MC looking to RC when asked about inconsistency, I'm thinking she might not know what the word means. She thought RC would explain it, but when he didn't she just said "I don't know". If someone had said you said so and so and then another day you said this and that is different. Which one is correct I think she may have answered.

I just feel really bad that there are two "camps" in this story. I don't think there should have been a marriage and I don't think CS should be going after custody at this point. If she waited and MC and or R/C was involved in the disapperance of Haleigh I think she would not have a problem of gaining custody. The woman who is her attorney sounded so mean last night on TV. She was saying she had all this information about things, but surely she knows that people close to CS will give information favorable to CS. I don't know it is all so sad that another beautiful, happy child has disappeared. JMO

[KatyDid]

See last paragraph in the link below for what Misty said about Wednesday's interview and why she walked out of it.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1562416/haleigh_cummings_father_and_new_wife.html?cat=9

[JMO]

From that article (paraphrasing), Misty said she would not speak to anybody except the investigators she already spoke with.


Why, because she thinks she can bamboozle them? If this girl is telling the truth why can't she just keep telling the truth no matter who the investigator is. I can't believe she walked out. It appears her feelings are more important than finding Haleigh.

IMO

[RoxyWest]

Yeppers, it looked like Ron got blindsided by some information this morning. One thing Misty and Ron have continued to say is they *passed* the polygraph. Me thinks not on Misty's part if LE is stating on national media there are inconsistencies with her story.

I would love to know who tipped Meridith off too.

I think the reporter doing the update before the interview provided the info that Mereith needed. Refer to this link as provided by Themis:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1562416/haleigh_cummings_father_and_new_wife.html?cat=9

[Grandview]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4KvgPF8cak

I watched it again and something hit me like a ton of bricks just now.

Aside from the fact that Misty is back to saying that she woke up at 3:00am and then she "went to the bathroom" and noticed the kitchen lights were on and the back door was open she is saying that she then went back to her bedroom to get her phone to call Ron, notices Haliegh is missing and then calls Ron but that Ron was already there.
So my guesstimation is that it took 20 or so minutes from when she woke up until she was calling for Ron but that he was already there... From what I understand she went from her bed to the kitchen area where she ultimately noticed the door was open then walks back to the bedroom to get her phone to call Ron and notices Haleigh is gone she then calls Ron but then she says Ron was already home and Ron states she was either opening the door or standing in the door depending on which one of Ron's versions that you believe.

For Misty I'm thinking that all took approx 20 minutes minimum of her time including her search for Haleigh which she claims she did. Soooo what time did Ron get home exactly? Ron says around 3:00 am. Misty claims she woke up at 3:00am.
It just doesn't add up by my estimations.

One of the first video's of Misti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl4PUY6o_E

"I seen three (3)". She did not know the exact time. It was a GUESS.
She never said Haleigh wet the bed (which some have made a BIG deal out of and it was a GUESS). She said her "blanket smelled like pee" and she washed the pee-smelling blanket and when washed/dried she put it on Haleigh. Her younger brother could have peed on the the blanket during nap time/movie watching. Her nephew could have peed on the blanket (see above). Boys are called "little squirts" for a reason. LOL and imo.

I am GUESSING too. Until the LE/FBI gives me something to go on, then I will "blame" someone. Right now I am clueless what happened, but that's imo.

Off the 'net now.

[KatyDid]

I think the reporter doing the update before the interview provided the info that Mereith needed. Refer to this link as provided by Themis:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1562416/haleigh_cummings_father_and_new_wife.html?cat=9

I am on there reading now.

I liked this the end of the article:

The two may not be lying. They may both be completely innocent in the matter of Haleigh Cummings turning up missing early that February morning.

But they certainly should acquaint themselves with the nuances of "propriety."

[march27]

Just curious regarding the marriage. Dont they still have to send off for the marriage certificate before its legal. I was married 7 years ago in Fla and for some reason I thought you still had to send the info to the state before its offical. Hopefully someone can clear this up.

[MrLucky917B]

I seriosly doubt that NBC is paying for more than 1 night with 3 meals(probably in the hotel). They didn't even show any new pics or video that I've seen, so no licensing fees. I also doubt that Ron could pay for any extra time in NY. Their return flight was probably prearranged at time of booking. Usually nothing is paid for after the interview is over. That's been my personal experience but I'm no expert on morning news showsl

Very significant that Ron offered no support when Misti looked to him for help with the "Why the different stories?" question. I thought he was listening for the answer too. Didn't even meet her eyes. Acts like he was forced into the marriage and not happy about it. Wonder what "forced" him. :confused:

You forgot the exclusive pictures of the wedding (thats where the licensing fees came from). I wonder if they were watching the live news as they were sitting there where the reporter mentioned the inconsistencies and if it was the first time they heard it.

JMO

[SwineFeld]

Not to be mean, but I think you are the only one getting confused. Haleighs mattress that was on the floor in M&R's room is obviously the bed she slept on. And if you were confused about the bed situation before, the fact that Misty and/or Ron said she, Haleigh, was in her bed about about 4 feet away from where Misty was sleeping should erase any questions/misunderstandings you have. 4 feet away would mean that mattress on the floor. Not the next room where her white bed frame was. JMO.

Not to be picky but I think it is very important to diffferentiate. Haleigh had a bed, a white metal bed in her room. there was a mattress also in Misty's room. I assume it was the mattress that belonged to Haleighs bed. that said. Melanie ( corrct name?) stated "let us get this straight. Haleigh was on the mattress( in Misty's room) and Misty stated Haleigh was in HER (Haleighs bed). If Haleigh was in Haleighs bed then she was in the other room. Where the heck was she? Misty knows the difference between a mattress and a bed. She was asked specifically so it could be established what ROOM Haleigh was in. Misty said Haleighs bed. what are we to assume. that is a tricky answer imo.

[march27]

Maybe he did know but all was planed. Then it was still them agaist the world but now w/ LE`s announcement, It has all changed!! For the 1st time LE made it clear. She holds the "key"......we know what that means. Maybe that is the new person of interest!!

Gosh his minister would not even marry them. I NEVER heard of that!!

Unless this is some crazy setup. Then I can see the minister not going along with a ruse marriage. Not that I believe that just sayin.

[Motomom]

Bold-ed your statement.. I have also played with the speculation that maybe Misty was going to handle a drug purchase that night while Ronald was off "trying to earn an honest living". Something went wrong during that exchange. Cannot put my finger on it but I still believe Misty is the key.

JMO

Hi leather. I had a pretty good post typed up and erased it all. Because I'd like to know what you base this opinion on, if you want to share. Do you think he does drugs? Or sells them? OR do you think Misty does or sells them? Users don't typically sell IMO, at least not addicts. I don't think he was involved in drugs at this time. I think he cleaned himself up a good bit. I would have expected other charges since 04-5 if he was still involved. See I'm getting long winded again but I'm curious as to why some people think he is still on or selling drugs.

[SwFlorida]

Issue's with JVM is on now talking about the case.

[FoxySly]

You're right, besides her bed was just a mattress too. Should she have said "the other mattress"?


Exactly!

I got questions (tunnel vision):

Why was Misty so worn out? IIRC she said she was exhausted.
When I was 17 I had 3 step-Children & my Baby Brother, it was just life & I loved them. Dang it at 17 unless an illness ya got a lot of energy!
Sooooooooooooooo way was misty exhausted???

Had she been partying???

Did she come unglued about HaLeigh wetting the bed???

She does say in that interview "my blanket" "our blanket" was she mad because it was "her blanket"???

HLN showing about Misty on TV right now.

Sly

~

[Themis]

GREAT POST Themis:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I agree. Now I cannot help but wonder about the family dynamics now the LE has practically cleared Ron yet done just the opposite w/ Misty. Kinda like a little wedding gift! If that ain't gonna stir up trouble I don't know what is. While the two were in NY, I think possibly the family back home might of done a little talking amongst themselves after the show. Perhaps pertaining to Misty they might be going hmmmmmm. I think their main concern is Ron. If Misty is pregnant OMG.........what a mess.

And take note of the fact she got the worst grilling by LE on the eve of her wedding!! No coincidence IMO!

Inconsistent statements the way I was raised are lies. I am saying it again.....I do not believe IMO she could of possibly past that LDT!! I think she told Ron in secrete that she did. Then when Greta asked her she tried to get out of the answer by saying she was not suppose to talk about it AND I saw her do this on another show.......then she says she passed as she is slightly shaking her head no. BODY LANGUAGE 101....when someone shakes there head when they are telling you something they are not telling the truth......IMO!! Watch at the courthouse she says she passed on the question about being home, BUT THATS IT.

My 16 yr old twins are not exactly perfect but no way would her behaviour fly around here. She is in a total different league........a street smart one. They would be afraid to hang out with someone like Misty.
Greetings Tree -- Before I forget ... if you are still having problems with this board moving at a slow pace it might be due to the Sprint Ad that sometimes shows up on the right side of your screen. I just discovered it does that to me. OTH, the Dove Hair Care commercial does not cause a lag waiting for it to appear.

Oh yeah, the family dynamics must be in tornado mode about now.
RC looked anything like a Happy New Husband starting with getting the papers on Monday. And then there was Teresa's answer only a week or so ago that she didn't know if RC & Misty were still a couple! HUH?
So, she (or Sykes) take off that heirloom engagement ring off their hand and hand it to Ron because he asked for it? Nonsense.

A new LE grills her with vigor on wedding eve; I'm with you -- no coincidence. And no way do I believe the rumors I've read on this message board that RC married her at the request of LE as some kind of under-cover agent. I don't think so.

One thing still bothers me, though, about RC-- and that is him saying to someone (can't remember who right now) that RC supposedly made the statement that he was about 75% sure who the 'kidnapper' was. Hmmm

[JMO] We liked each other's post -- how about that!

[catdoc]

You forgot the exclusive pictures of the wedding (thats where the licensing fees came from). I wonder if they were watching the live news as they were sitting there where the reporter mentioned the inconsistencies and if it was the first time they heard it.

JMO

I didn't watch it live, just went to the interview link on MSNBC. So if there were exclusive wedding pics I missed them. I was expecting them. I saw some on local links last night and thought "Well they must not be holding them for money from NBC"

[Motomom]

You're right, besides her bed was just a mattress too. Should she have said "the other mattress"?

I think you are right catdoc. I dont' think she would have said mattress, she would have said bed IMO

[Themis]

Yeppers, it looked like Ron got blindsided by some information this morning. One thing Misty and Ron have continued to say is they *passed* the polygraph. Me thinks not on Misty's part if LE is stating on national media there are inconsistencies with her story.

I would love to know who tipped Meridith off too.
Gee, I don't how Meridith got so knowledgeable about this. Maybe some people still caring about HALEIGH and wanting to get to the truth sent Meridith an e-mail. It would be nice to think that, huh? [JMO]

[KatyDid]

JVM on HLN talking about the Today show interview.

Good questions being asked.

[RoxyWest]

Exactly!

I got questions (tunnel vision):

Why was Misty so worn out? IIRC she said she was exhausted.
When I was 17 I had 3 step-Children & my Baby Brother, it was just life & I loved them. Dang it at 17 unless an illness ya got a lot of energy!
Sooooooooooooooo way was misty exhausted???Had she been partying???

Did she come unglued about HaLeigh wetting the bed???

She does say in that interview "my blanket" "our blanket" was she mad because it was "her blanket"???

HLN showing about Misty on TV right now.

Sly

~


Bolding mine
IIRC she had been away for three days--the weekend--and Ron had to haul her back. Wonder if they had had a fight? I got the impression she had been partying hardy and that's why she was so tired that she may have slept through an abduction. JMO

[FoxySly]

They are showing this on cnn and the look on Rons face is like he is gritting his teeth with disgust when she says she doesnt know.I think he just got hit with a wammy this morning.

I just seen it too & his eyes looked even further away...

Sly

~

[KatyDid]

Gee, I don't how Meridith got so knowledgeable about this. Maybe some people still caring about HALEIGH and wanting to get to the truth sent Meridith an e-mail. It would be nice to think that, huh? [JMO]

Yes it would. Hopefully there is truth in that. Someone mentioned earlier the reporter at the beginning of the interview tipped off Meridith.

[aproudmom]

Exactly!

I got questions (tunnel vision):

Why was Misty so worn out? IIRC she said she was exhausted.
When I was 17 I had 3 step-Children & my Baby Brother, it was just life & I loved them. Dang it at 17 unless an illness ya got a lot of energy!
Sooooooooooooooo way was misty exhausted???

Had she been partying???

Did she come unglued about HaLeigh wetting the bed???

She does say in that interview "my blanket" "our blanket" was she mad because it was "her blanket"???

HLN showing about Misty on TV right now.

Sly

~

I am watching it right now guess alot of people feel she is not adding up this case is crazy one minute I think this then I hear something and think something else.:scared:

[cherylt]

Originally Posted by catdoc
Very significant that Ron offered no support when Misti looked to him for help with the "Why the different stories?" question. I thought he was listening for the answer too. Didn't even meet her eyes. Acts like he was forced into the marriage and not happy about it. Wonder what "forced" him.


Very good point. Didn't meet her eyes, I saw that and didn't know what to make of it... ARE THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO RIVAL THE CASEY ANTHONY SAGA? Just when I think I heard it all (referring to the craziness), something in this case happens.

Sorry if u guys talked about this already - I've been reading but haven't posted here lately...

But how could Ron marry Misty (the person who last saw his daughter) when he can't even RETURN to his own house?! He said he can't bear the thought of being in there w/out his little girl but yet he MARRIES the woman who lost her?! I am so confused... If he were to follow a pattern, he would have dumped her soon after, IMO.

I thought from the beginning that the family didn't have anything to do w/ the disappearance, that it was a tragedy that Misty didn't wake up. But now, I not so sure. It is so fishy to get married when your dear daughter has been "taken" and I can't imagine why her and why now (as someone else has asked here)?

Are they involved somehow? Obviously no one knows; but this marriage just makes them look bad. Didn't anyone TELL them that?

WOW - I almost fell down (THUD) when I first heard it, and could not think of a "good" reason why they would get married now. All I can think of is that he doesn't want to be charged w/ statutory rape after this case is over (hopefully they will find her alive)... Others have tossed out maybe she is preggers, so that may be why. Still others have said spousal privilege, but that's not the case...

Baffling, just unbelievable! :confused:

[aproudmom]

I just seen it too & his eyes looked even further away...

Sly

~

Sly did you notice her looking at him for a few seconds when she was ask about her story changing that caught my eye just now like she did not want to answer or was wanting him to help her out with the question very odd IMO

[FoxySly]

:biggrin::lol: True that. That was funny. I am still laughing.

imo


Yup, wiping strawberry soda off my laptop.

Sly

~

[FoxySly]

Soooo what time did Ron get home exactly? Ron says around 3:00 am. Misty claims she woke up at 3:00am.
It just doesn't add up by my estimations.

~Snip to address

I have seen nothing that said Ron got home anytime before 3:20

Just like I never seen nothing about him going to work at 7.

Sly

~

[kitty1182]

Really?
As I said earlier, if I were innocent, I would tell them everything that happened that night from the minute Ron left until the moment he walked in the door. If LE said that I was lying, it would bother me but I would not walk but would stay to prove my point. But then I am a mature woman and Misty isn't and may have something to hide.

Me too.I would sit there till the stocks went back up before I walked out.In fact, they would want me to leave..
If you tell the truth the first time, you don't have to change anything..

[kitty1182]

In the interview I just watched, she was talking about two different blankets. Haleigh's that she thought had been peed on and hers that someone had put in a van. She washed them both and put Haleigh's on her.

That is what I want to know, what was Misty's blanket doing in the van..

[MrLucky917B]

I didn't watch it live, just went to the interview link on MSNBC. So if there were exclusive wedding pics I missed them. I was expecting them. I saw some on local links last night and thought "Well they must not be holding them for money from NBC"

I didn't realize it the first time I watched it but they show the wedding clips before the live interview. Ron say's in the clips and live "I don't know what happened, I was at work". I looks like a smirk on his face in both cases.

JMO

[psbperu]

Thanks to those who posted the video of the interview this a.m.

The body language of the couple says a lot to me...and I am no expert.

The pastor was certainly showing good sense in telling them he wouldn't marry them.

An engagement & a wedding are happy occasions in one's life ... but not when your child is missing.

Bizarre.

[playnice]

ITA. If I slept on a mattress, or on the floor, or on a futon, I would say "I'm going to bed", not, "I'm going to mattress or floor or futon".

:lol::lol:

[KatyDid]

Since when do you get to pick and choose who you talk to when your brought in by LE.
She will have a lawyer soon imo.

I agree. She got a little bratty in that last LE interview, imo.

[Politigal]

Can someone please tell me what things she has changed...her inconsistencies I keep hearing about. I've been looking this afternoon and so far the bed and the blanket is all I have seen but not what she changed about them. TIA

I don't really think that police have released info on exactly what the inconsistent statements consist of....

All they said today was, there are inconsistencies in what Misty said occurred during the evening til the time Haleigh disappeared.

[kitty1182]

Thanks to those who posted the video of the interview this a.m.

The body language of the couple says a lot to me...and I am no expert.

The pastor was certainly showing good sense in telling them he wouldn't marry them.

An engagement & a wedding are happy occasions in one's life ... but not when your child is missing.

Bizarre.

I agree..A wedding could have waited..IMO, I think she is pregnant..

Praying this child is safe and sound......

[aproudmom]

I didn't watch it live, just went to the interview link on MSNBC. So if there were exclusive wedding pics I missed them. I was expecting them. I saw some on local links last night and thought "Well they must not be holding them for money from NBC"

I didnt see it live just watched it on here is NBC the one that paid 200 grand for caylee's pictures? an put the anthonys and their team up in the ritz and feed them steak dinners the night the remains were found? ANYONE KNOW cause I am sure they are not that stupid to not get some money for pics I may be wrong. Most media says they do not pay for interviews but they do pay licensing fees.

[playnice]

Can someone please tell me what things she has changed...her inconsistencies I keep hearing about. I've been looking this afternoon and so far the bed and the blanket is all I have seen but not what she changed about them. TIA

She has been questioned so many times we dont know how much her stories have changed.
and I dont believe she passed a poly. They may let her think she did but---

[Themis]

From that article (paraphrasing), Misty said she would not speak to anybody except the investigators she already spoke with.


Why, because she thinks she can bamboozle them? If this girl is telling the truth why can't she just keep telling the truth no matter who the investigator is. I can't believe she walked out. It appears her feelings are more important than finding Haleigh.
IMO
I said some time ago, KatyDid, that underneath that uneducated and vapid exterior I detected someone tougher and with street-smarts.
On Wednesday night, remember, she knew she would be married the very next day. And with that she thinks she has some security. Without RC where would she be? Where would she go? Where can she get a job? Heck, I don't even know if she has a car. Does she have a small nest egg for herself ...has RC paid her a nanny salary? Was her family there with arms wide open, saying 'come home--this is not the time for marriage, too much turmoil'? She may look 13, talk like she's 13but she's tougher than she appears, IMO.

[5boxersmom]

She said my blanket that THEY put/had in the van. I don't know where she said she got it from.

But whose van?

[Politigal]

But whose van?

I think she was referring to the police evidence van....they took the bedcovers.

[IlliniFan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by breeze53
Ok thanks to a poster on here for pming me the number to the bridge company here is the shifts

1st shift---6am until 430 pm

2nd shift---430 until 3 am

weekend shift---6 am until 6 pm
______________________________________________

I did an advanced search and here is a post that Breeze53 made referencing the shifts at PDM where Ron works.....
Breeze called and said her husband was interested in a job there (lol) and wanted to know what the different shifts were....so she then posted what she was told...

just an fyi...

[playnice]

I agree..A wedding could have waited..IMO, I think she is pregnant..

Praying this child is safe and sound......



I think she could be too. He never worried about details like that bwefore but plenty to worry about now if Misti got preggers now that Haleigh is missing, Crystal gets lawyer and Misti a minor.

[cherylt]

I didn't realize it the first time I watched it but they show the wedding clips before the live interview. Ron say's in the clips and live "I don't know what happened, I was at work". I looks like a smirk on his face in both cases.

JMO


Right, and what is up w/ those DARK wrap around glasses so noone can see his eyes? He's taking to wearing them quite a bit lately. I'm not blaming him for anything, but it is again suspicious. Also, I've seen Crystal on iviews and she acts upset, but no tears, just dabs at her eyes and implores the person who took her to bring her back. IMO, the whole family is whacked and someone knows what happened to Haleigh, they are obviously not saying what they know...
(I really believed none of them knew what happened in the beginning but I have since changed my mind...)

[KatyDid]

I said some time ago, KatyDid, that underneath that uneducated and vapid exterior I detected someone tougher and with street-smarts.
On Wednesday night, remember, she knew she would be married the very next day. And with that she thinks she has some security. Without RC where would she be? Where would she go? Where can she get a job? Heck, I don't even know if she has a car. Does she have a small nest egg for herself ...has RC paid her a nanny salary? Was her family there with arms wide open, saying 'come home--this is not the time for marriage, too much turmoil'? She may look 13, talk like she's 13but she's tougher than she appears, IMO.

I conpletely agree with this. The wall is coming down now that she feels protected. I think she is in for a big wake up call, and soon. :wink:

[aproudmom]

I agree..A wedding could have waited..IMO, I think she is pregnant..

Praying this child is safe and sound......

I hope not just what they need. I was watching HLN one of the lawyers from Floridia said he could be charged because of their ages him being over 24 and her being under 18 but he did not think LE would ever have charged him married or not since the parents approved and their focus is on the child that is missing. I do not think RC married her because he was afraid of getting charged with rape or whatever it would be or because she is preg. imo

[playnice]

Right, and what is up w/ those DARK wrap around glasses so noone can see his eyes? He's taking to wearing them quite a bit lately. I'm not blaming him for anything, but it is again suspicious. Also, I've seen Crystal on iviews and she acts upset, but no tears, just dabs at her eyes and implores the person who took her to bring her back. IMO, the whole family is whacked and someone knows what happened to Haleigh, they are obviously not saying what they know...
(I really believed none of them knew what happened in the beginning but I have since changed my mind...)

There is not a shortage of suspects.

[KatyDid]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

:w00t: WOOT and WOW!!!

[Politigal]

Misty's initial statement - was that Haleigh was *in bed with her.*

I think that was closer to the truth than anything.

[SwineFeld]

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

[kitty1182]

I think she could be too. He never worried about details like that bwefore but plenty to worry about now if Misti got preggers now that Haleigh is missing, Crystal gets lawyer and Misti a minor.

I think he is scared of getting into trouble because of her age, so if she is pregnant he marries her..He sure didn't look like a happy groom to me....
I still think she knows what happen.....

[IlliniFan]

Breeze,

I found your post regarding your information from Ron's employer...I think there was some confusion about times..

I hope you don't mind that I posted it.....

hope your hubby is doing better..

[playnice]

:w00t: WOOT and WOW!!!

Does Jane have transcripts? This is certainly one for the links thread when they are posted.

[kitty1182]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

I hope Ron and all the family heard this!!!!!

[playnice]

I think he is scared of getting into trouble because of her age, so if she is pregnant he marries her..He sure didn't look like a happy groom to me....
I still think she knows what happen.....

Im starting to see shades of Casey in the deception department.

[aproudmom]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

Yep I heard that also that is what I have been waiting to hear so they have not been told they passed I am thinking they do not think RC knows anything but Misty did not pass parts of her test and bringing in a new detective to question her I think they are trying to get her to break and say more. JMO but something is not right here.

[IlliniFan]

Does Jane have transcripts? This is certainly one for the links thread when they are posted.

I believe she does! It takes a bit before they are posted online though..

[kitty1182]

I feel like they know she has done something with Haleigh and maybe there waiting for some more test to come back. They need to bring her back in and question her to just see if she refuses or walks out.

I hope they bring her back in as soon as she steps foot in Florida!!!!!

[kitty1182]

Im starting to see shades of Casey in the deception department.

Oh, me too.................Do you think she kept up with that case?

[playnice]

Oh, me too.................Do you think she kept up with that case?

Wouldnt surprise me.

[kitty1182]

Wouldnt surprise me.

At times, she even looks like her..imo

[playnice]

At times, she even looks like her..imo

Except Casey got creative and invented Zanny. All Misti could come up with is she was sleeping.

[aproudmom]

I think the parents need to be more worried about getting a lawyer rather than dresses and wedding cakes and flowers even if they dont think she has done any wrong because she is being watched and looked at an they can't force her to talk since she is a minor but they can put pressure on her in hopes of finding out the whole truth about that night a lawyer would be telling her to keep her mouth shut even if she had nothing to hide. imo

[playnice]

I think the parents need to be more worried about getting a lawyer rather than dresses and wedding cakes and flowers even if they dont think she has done any wrong because she is being watched and looked at an they can't force her to talk since she is a minor but they can put pressure on her in hopes of finding out the whole truth about that night a lawyer would be telling her to keep her mouth shut even if she had nothing to hide. imo

Well since she is now a married woman will they treat her like an adult?

[kitty1182]

Except Casey got creative and invented Zanny. All Misti could come up with is she was sleeping.

Yeah, Misty didn't have much time to come up with much...

[Themis]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.
Thank you, Tree, for the JVM update because I do not watch her or Nancy Grace.
Hey! Remember our exchange last night, #1349? You wrote:

"Originally Posted by TREE TREE
You know I have a sneaking suspicion somewhere mid flight at about the time appetizers arrive at least one of them is going to wonder what the heck they have gotten into. Perhaps they will ponder the KP interview on NG. If not they should!! Perfect timing!!
Hey! Remember what I posted just last night about this morning's interview on the Today Show?"

And I responded with: "Well, let me put it this way. I just hope the Newlyweds are so saturated with the glow of it all each will end up with both feet in their mouths."

Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!

[IlliniFan]

Hi BOXER!!
It has to be the sisters light blue van w/ the mysterious gash in it.
I'm telling you that family of Misty's is trying to pin it on CJ.....w/ the cinder block M/O!!.....IMO!!...If you are going to rat on a relative, you dont brag and alert him to the media. WEIRD!!....and what was it abou 2 weeks in?

It was impounded some one says it was back out then changed it to back still in??
Van, Blaket, Gash.......MISSING KID!!

Ok, I'm confused..I thought Misty's SIL said that CJ's van had a gash on it when he left...(and I thought she said he left the night Haleigh disappeared? I could be wrong...So much information....from sooo many people...

[Beth Englema]

Right, and what is up w/ those DARK wrap around glasses so noone can see his eyes? He's taking to wearing them quite a bit lately. I'm not blaming him for anything, but it is again suspicious. Also, I've seen Crystal on iviews and she acts upset, but no tears, just dabs at her eyes and implores the person who took her to bring her back. IMO, the whole family is whacked and someone knows what happened to Haleigh, they are obviously not saying what they know...
(I really believed none of them knew what happened in the beginning but I have since changed my mind...)It could be that he is wearing the sun glasses because a few posters on this board and other places have commented that they think that he might be on drugs or medication because the pupils of his eyes seem so dilated. JMO

[playnice]

wow hadn't thought about that. Who can we find to answer this one.

We need our lawyers from Caylee board. Where are they?

[KatyDid]

Except Casey got creative and invented Zanny. All Misti could come up with is she was sleeping.

LOL, because Misty WAS the nanny. :laugh:

[5boxersmom]

Hi BOXER!!
It has to be the sisters light blue van w/ the mysterious gash in it.
I'm telling you that family of Misty's is trying to pin it on CJ.....w/ the cinder block M/O!!.....IMO!!...If you are going to rat on a relative, you dont brag and alert him to the media. WEIRD!!....and what was it abou 2 weeks in?

It was impounded some one says it was back out then changed it to back still in??
Van, Blaket, Gash.......MISSING KID!!

Hi Tree

I wondered if it was the SIL's van that was impounded by LE or another vehicle.

Someone posted on Cousin Joe's myspace on 2-22 to go help find that little girl and clear his name. Did you see that? Someone named Thomas.

imo

[bama__angel]

It could be that he is wearing the sun glasses because a few posters on this board and other places have commented that they think that he might be on drugs or medication because the pupils of his eyes seem so dilated. JMO



Probably hasnt slept in a month.......Dark circles under his eyes I would imagine....IMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

Interesting that Misty threw a hissy fit and walked out when a new member of the LE questioned her without kid gloves

[Politigal]

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/juvenile-tried-as-an-adult.html

[IlliniFan]

snipped

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/New-Details-Emerge-In-Haleigh-Cummings/SKWv4u_xyUSGnQiDvzkemQ.cspx



Croslin says her nephew left the day Haleigh was abducted. She also tells us a light blue van her nephew might have drove was confiscated and analyzed by police. Croslin’s husband Hank says a mysterious gash appeared on the side of the van the night Haleigh disappeared.

__________________________________________________ _________

The croslin that is being quoted is Misty's Sister in Law who lives in the same trailer park

[bama__angel]

Interesting that Misty threw a hissy fit and walked out when a new member of the LE questioned her without kid gloves



I didnt know she threw a fit.......I thought she just refused to answer any more questions and walked out...........IMO

[playnice]

LOL, because Misty WAS the nanny. :laugh:

:lol::lol:

[sunstar]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

Hi TREE! I haven't had a chance to watch the Today video yet (just got home from work) so thanks for the update. I did read the article at msnbc.com and saw a photo of them this morning along with a wedding photo from yesterday ~ complete with Ron in his sunglasses. :laugh:

[KKKKKKatie]

Well since she is now a married woman will they treat her like an adult?

Edited because I misread the post you responded to...sorry

[catdoc]

Probably hasnt slept in a month.......Dark circles under his eyes I would imagine....IMO

Also bright light hurts your eyes when you've been crying a lot. (vs. pretending to cry a lot)

[FoxySly]

Gee, I don't how Meridith got so knowledgeable about this. Maybe some people still caring about HALEIGH and wanting to get to the truth sent Meridith an e-mail. It would be nice to think that, huh? [JMO]

I just messaged them a thank you & said Meridith asked the best questions so far.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29041920/

Sly

~

[bama__angel]

Also bright light hurts your eyes when you've been crying a lot. (vs. pretending to cry a lot)



I would imagine he is on some kind meds.......probably something for anxiety.....

[Themis]

I hope Ron and all the family heard this!!!!!
It's not just Misty's polygraphs either. From the transcript of Greta VS show of 2-12-09:

Cummings makes 2 different statements about them when Greta asked.

1. Absolutely, they did. And it was not today that we took a polygraph. We took the polygraph yesterday. And, yes, we both did pass.

and farther down

2. They told me that I passed.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492185,00.html

Questions and answers are down toward the end of the transcript. JMO

[5boxersmom]

snipped

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/New-Details-Emerge-In-Haleigh-Cummings/SKWv4u_xyUSGnQiDvzkemQ.cspx



Croslin says her nephew left the day Haleigh was abducted. She also tells us a light blue van her nephew might have drove was confiscated and analyzed by police. Croslin’s husband Hank says a mysterious gash appeared on the side of the van the night Haleigh disappeared.

__________________________________________________ _________

The croslin that is being quoted is Misty's Sister in Law who lives in the same trailer park

No Lisa is Misti's mom.

He might have used the van? So who does the van belong to? This is strange too from the link....

Croslin is talking about her nephew. The 19-year-old was in town a few weeks before Haleigh’s disappearance.

Then says he left the day of Haleigh's disappearance. So he was there for weeks?

imo

[sunstar]

Im starting to see shades of Casey in the deception department.

Me too, and right from the beginning. MOO

[Themis]

I hope they bring her back in as soon as she steps foot in Florida!!!!!
Yeah, they could probably use a ride from the airport to Satsuma. JMO

[cat3]

On JVM tonight, a reporter just got off the phone with that Sgt. Southland or something like that. He said no one has been told they passed a lie detector test so he disputes Misty telling that on the Today show. He also told the reporter that Misty's inconsitent statement are still a concern, incl what she said this morning.

Oh boy.Well that's one cat out of the bag.Wish LE had said something sooner.Funny thing is IIRC,Ron was the first one to mention on the Today show that Misty had passed her LD test.LE said no one has been told they passed.I wonder if they mean Ron hasn't passed as well,although LE has said that they believe he doesn't know where Haleigh is.
I wouldn't want to be Misty now.Alone with Ron in NY.She must have lied to him and everyone else.IMO

[kitty1182]

Yeah, they could probably use a ride from the airport to Satsuma. JMO

Oh Yeah..

http://bestsmileys.com/cops/8.gif

[TaraCrazyHair]

I didnt know she threw a fit.......I thought she just refused to answer any more questions and walked out...........IMO

Do you think she stoop up like a mature adult and simply said "I am not answering any more questions"?

Or are you not more inclined to agree she walked out in a huff after listening to her account this morning?

It was the most animated that she became during the entire interview

[IlliniFan]

No Lisa is Misti's mom.

He might have used the van? So who does the van belong to? This is strange too from the link....

Croslin is talking about her nephew. The 19-year-old was in town a few weeks before Haleigh’s disappearance.

Then says he left the day of Haleigh's disappearance. So he was there for weeks?

imo

My Bad...you're right not Misty's sil....sorry

I don't know what to make of it...it does say the van he might have used/driven...

I thought.....not sure...Joe was there staying w/family in Crescent City for awhile...not sure how long...

article is confusing...

[TaraCrazyHair]

No Lisa is Misti's mom.

He might have used the van? So who does the van belong to? This is strange too from the link....

Croslin is talking about her nephew. The 19-year-old was in town a few weeks before Haleigh’s disappearance.

Then says he left the day of Haleigh's disappearance. So he was there for weeks?

imo

Is this the same one who tried to steal one of Ron's guns?

[5boxersmom]

My Bad...you're right not Misty's sil....sorry

I don't know what to make of it...it does say the van he might have used/driven...

I thought.....not sure...Joe was there staying w/family in Crescent City for awhile...not sure how long...

article is confusing...

So who talked to Cousin Joe? LE in FL or LE in Tennesse? Wouldn't they have brought him back to FL if they thought he had anything to do with it?

And what about that gun in the ditch? Wonder what that is about? Did he steal it then throw it in the ditch when he knew Ron knew he stole it? Or did someone set him up? Hmmm.

imo

[5boxersmom]

Is this the same one who tried to steal one of Ron's guns?

Yep. But I think that gun was found in a ditch close to the home.

imo

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think the parents need to be more worried about getting a lawyer rather than dresses and wedding cakes and flowers even if they dont think she has done any wrong because she is being watched and looked at an they can't force her to talk since she is a minor but they can put pressure on her in hopes of finding out the whole truth about that night a lawyer would be telling her to keep her mouth shut even if she had nothing to hide. imo


What do you mean they cannot force her talk since she is a minor?

(Although now she technically isn't one since she is married I do believe)

[Themis]

I just messaged them a thank you & said Meridith asked the best questions so far.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29041920/

Sly
~
That was very nice of you, Foxy. It's always nice to hear 'you did a good job.' I am sure Meridith appreciated your e-mail. Thanks! JMO

[aproudmom]

I posted this earlier:

Florida Statute of 2008
'90.504 Husband-wife privilege.
(1) A spouse has a privilege during and after the marital relationship to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, communications which were intended to be made in confidence between the spouses while they were husband and wife.
(2) The privilege may be claimed by either spouse or by the guardian or conservator of a spouse. The authority of a spouse, or guardian or conservator of a spouse, to claim the privilege is presumed in the absence of contrary evidence.
(3) There is no privilege under this section:
(a) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse.
(b) In a criminal proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime committed at any time against the person or property of the other spouse, or the person or property of a child of either.
(c) In a criminal proceeding in which the communication is offered in evidence by a defendant-spouse who is one of the spouses between whom the communication was made.'

Privilege doesn't apply if one spouse is charged w crime against a child of either husband or wife.

courtesy of another poster on another Web Site .. I don't have the link so just putting jmoo

originally posted by oddesey...

IMO It should not be the law I would tell on my spouse before I did my child this law makes no since to me or why it's even used BUT JMO

[IlliniFan]

Kinda sorry I posted that!!!!

It is very confusing...ughhh

More Croslin's making inconsistant/confusing statments...?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Yep. But I think that gun was found in a ditch close to the home.

imo



Why steal a gun just to throw it in a ditch?

[aproudmom]

What do you mean they cannot force her talk since she is a minor?

(Although now she technically isn't one since she is married I do believe)

not at that time she was not

[Themis]

Oh Yeah..

http://bestsmileys.com/cops/8.gif
Wouldn't that be great -- those un-marked are so boring. ;-)

[IlliniFan]

So who talked to Cousin Joe? LE in FL or LE in Tennesse? Wouldn't they have brought him back to FL if they thought he had anything to do with it?

And what about that gun in the ditch? Wonder what that is about? Did he steal it then throw it in the ditch when he knew Ron knew he stole it? Or did someone set him up? Hmmm.

imo

It is weird....I thought he was spoken to in TN, but by what jurisdiction, I don't know.....

Joe was sort of cleared at one time, and iirc, that, too changed???

[sunstar]

Why steal a gun just to throw it in a ditch?

I've never heard of that happening unless it's been used to commit a crime between stealing it and tossing it. But I do think it's possible somebody could've put it there to get it out of the house and blame the cousin for stealing it. MOO

[TaraCrazyHair]

Let me see if I have all my ducks in a row ...

Cousin Joe is the one Misty accused of molesting her, right?

He came to visit them?

He stole Ron's gun?

He used somebody's van?

Haleigh's blanket was supposedly in that van?

If I have those points clear ... can anyone connect the dots for me as to why a cousin that molested you would be in your home in the first place let alone steal a gun and lastly have a little girl's blankey in his van?

Was she in the van as well?

:confused:

[aproudmom]

I didnt know she threw a fit.......I thought she just refused to answer any more questions and walked out...........IMO

bama we do not know if she threw a fit all she said is she walked out and told the other guy she would talk to them but not that guy cause he was mean and telling her she was lying and she is still a minor and on the day we are talking about she was not married not that it makes a difference other than I think her parent/parents would have to had been aware she was being questioned. I think this was done for a reason I think they brought someone in she was not comfortable with and ask the hard questions and she got up got mad and left she was not under arrest so they could not force her to stay.

[5boxersmom]

Why steal a gun just to throw it in a ditch?

To make it look like someone else stole it? :wink:

imo

[FoxySly]

I am watching it right now guess alot of people feel she is not adding up this case is crazy one minute I think this then I hear something and think something else.:scared:

I've had it down to 3 scenarios almost from the start but the one I was hoping for the most that crystal's family had her & she was safe ain't looking to good.

Today after the morning show I can help but (STRONGLY) ponder on misty. I wanna have a one on one talk with her. Something is not right, I don't wanna think it & tried hard to look at every possibility but today something snapped in me watching her today.

This has been my saddest day on this case.

Sly

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[KatyDid]

Let me see if I have all my ducks in a row ...

Cousin Joe is the one Misty accused of molesting her, right?

He came to visit them?

He stole Ron's gun?

He used somebody's van?

Haleigh's blanket was supposedly in that van?

If I have those points clear ... can anyone connect the dots for me as to why a cousin that molested you would be in your home in the first place let alone steal a gun and lastly have a little girl's blankey in his van?

Was she in the van as well?

:confused:

THAT is the question here. Why was cousin Joe at the house? Nobody is telling the whole story about it, imo.

[sunstar]

I'm watching Nancy's show and they just showed a clip from the Today show where Misty is asked about the inconsistencies. She just pauses, ummmmmmmmm, and when asked again just says "I don't know". To me she acts like she doesn't even understand the question! :rolleyes: It's so hard to imagine that if Haleigh is still alive and is found that this "child" would be her step-mother. After all, she is only 12 years older than Haleigh! :scared:

[5boxersmom]

It is weird....I thought he was spoken to in TN, but by what jurisdiction, I don't know.....

Joe was sort of cleared at one time, and iirc, that, too changed???

So here is what I am getting. The Van LE impounded belonged to someone in Misti's family. So they are saying Cousin Joe MIGHT have driven it and it has a gash on it. hmmm.

Cousin Joe stole the gun, later found in a ditch near the home and Might have driven the van LE impounded.

Does this sound fishy to anyone?

imo

[cat3]

Don't be to quick to jump the gun,LE also said Thursday search was just a routine search,no tip...Seven agencies called in, over 100 LE officer's searching. NO tip??? I don't believe them. Same LE, that waited a month to remove the back screen door??? Yes, if LE does NOT want the public to know Misty and Ronald passed their LDT,they will lie..

So do you think that LE are just saying (to keep the public in the dark)that no one has been told that they passed their LD test?
Why would they just now confront Misty on the LD test.She and Ron have said before that they have passed?
I'm not jumping the gun.There is a lot we don't know,but I'm glad that LE are letting a little info.out today.

[kitty1182]

Let me see if I have all my ducks in a row ...

Cousin Joe is the one Misty accused of molesting her, right?

He came to visit them?

He stole Ron's gun?

He used somebody's van?

Haleigh's blanket was supposedly in that van?

If I have those points clear ... can anyone connect the dots for me as to why a cousin that molested you would be in your home in the first place let alone steal a gun and lastly have a little girl's blankey in his van?

Was she in the van as well?

:confused:

It was Misty's blanket in the van..lol

[TaraCrazyHair]

I'm watching Nancy's show and they just showed a clip from the Today show where Misty is asked about the inconsistencies. She just pauses, ummmmmmmmm, and when asked again just says "I don't know". To me she acts like she doesn't even understand the question! :rolleyes: It's so hard to imagine that if Haleigh is still alive and is found that this "child" would be her step-mother. After all, she is only 12 years older than Haleigh! :scared:


Oh, I think she understood the question plain and simple ... she just did not know how to answer since Ron did not jump in and tell her what to say

MOO

[playnice]

So here is what I am getting. The Van LE impounded belonged to someone in Misti's family. So they are saying Cousin Joe MIGHT have driven it and it has a gash on it. hmmm.

Cousin Joe stole the gun, later found in a ditch near the home and Might have driven the van LE impounded.

Does this sound fishy to anyone?

imo

k. Let me ask this. What was Misti's brother driving that night when he came to see misti?

[aproudmom]

Don't be to quick to jump the gun,LE also said Thursday search was just a routine search,no tip...Seven agencies called in, over 100 LE officer's searching. NO tip??? I don't believe them. Same LE, that waited a month to remove the back screen door??? Yes, if LE does NOT want the public to know Misty and Ronald passed their LDT,they will lie..

I agree something is up even if they said they found nothing in the area they searched they did that for a reason LE said at a PC they had searched everywhere unless a tip came in they had no were else to search a few weeks ago SO why the door and the search and bring misty back in?????????kinda odd if ya ask me. but that just MO

Does anyone know if they are still in NY?

[TaraCrazyHair]

It was Misty's blanket in the van..lol


Misty's blanket in the van? The one she had to wash along with Haleigh's so she took a sheet off the window to cover her up while the blankets washed?

I am more confused than ever lol

[5boxersmom]

k. Let me ask this. What was Misti's brother driving that night when he came to see misti?

I don't know. Someone said one of the SIL's had a van. I do not know which one though.

imo

[FoxySly]

Sly did you notice her looking at him for a few seconds when she was ask about her story changing that caught my eye just now like she did not want to answer or was wanting him to help her out with the question very odd IMO

Yup, I did, & just again for about the 6th time. Each time it's like a hit with a cast iron skillet but I keep watching.

His silence I heard VERY LOUDLY it spoke volumes.

They got married yesterday & they ain't even holding hands.

I'm thinking Ron's mind is knowing but his heart ain't ready for it yet.

There is no way IMO that Ron would cover for misty if she has anything to do with HaLeigh missing.

IMO no way would Ron chose her over his Children & if I was misty & done something I'd be turning myself in to LE before Ron found out.

Sly

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[kitty1182]

Misty's blanket in the van? The one she had to wash along with Haleigh's so she took a sheet off the window to cover her up while the blankets washed?

I am more confused than ever lol

Yep, Misty's blanket..lol

[IlliniFan]

So here is what I am getting. The Van LE impounded belonged to someone in Misti's family. So they are saying Cousin Joe MIGHT have driven it and it has a gash on it. hmmm.

Cousin Joe stole the gun, later found in a ditch near the home and Might have driven the van LE impounded.

Does this sound fishy to anyone?

imo

I'd say inconsistancies...lol

I think LE is more interested in Misty than Cousin Joe at this point..?



No wonder LE is frustrated.....

[kitty1182]

I don't know. Someone said one of the SIL's had a van. I do not know which one though.

imo

I think he was driving a van, the same one Misty's blanket was left in..
Now why a 17 yr.old girl's blanket would be in a van is strange to me..
imo

[playnice]

Yup, I did, & just again for about the 6th time. Each time it's like a hit with a cast iron skillet but I keep watching.

His silence I heard VERY LOUDLY it spoke volumes.

They got married yesterday & they ain't even holding hands.

I'm thinking Ron's mind is knowing but his heart ain't ready for it yet.

There is no way IMO that Ron would cover for misty if she has anything to do with HaLeigh missing.

IMO no way would Ron chose her over his Children & if I was misty & done something I'd be turning myself in to LE before Ron found out.

Sly

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I dont think he would cover either. He either believes her or he is trying to get info from her.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think Misty & Ron would look like they are hiding something if they get a lawyer.

I didn't know that LE could force anyone to talk. But learn something new everyday here if they can't force minors. Do that mean they can force adults to talk? TIA

Misty is being considered a minor, does anyone why was she alone with the new detective? Was she alone when she took the LDT? This is a hard case to solve.


I am a bit confused about this questioning a minor thing too

I was not aware her mother was with her during each interview?

Or was she?

[5boxersmom]

I'd say inconsistancies...lol

I think LE is more interested in Misty than Cousin Joe at this point..?



No wonder LE is frustrated.....

Well I am too at this point. :biggrin:

imo

[IlliniFan]

Thank-you for the link...I should just bookmark it...Much easier than trying to dig through old posts!!

[SwineFeld]

I agree with all you said 100%!

Yup, I did, & just again for about the 6th time. Each time it's like a hit with a cast iron skillet but I keep watching.

His silence I heard VERY LOUDLY it spoke volumes.

They got married yesterday & they ain't even holding hands.

I'm thinking Ron's mind is knowing but his heart ain't ready for it yet.

There is no way IMO that Ron would cover for misty if she has anything to do with HaLeigh missing.

IMO no way would Ron chose her over his Children & if I was misty & done something I'd be turning myself in to LE before Ron found out.

Sly

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[5boxersmom]

I think he was driving a van, the same one Misty's blanket was left in..
Now why a 17 yr.old girl's blanket would be in a van is strange to me..
imo

Maybe they went on a picnic. :wink:

Yes it is strange.

imo

[Peaches]

I thought she was talking "they" and "the van" before Haleigh was missing. Like someone earlier had put her blanket in a van and she washed it because of that.

So the police have said there are inconsistencies but they haven't said what they are? That is a police tactic too. She could have said something about the time being 3 am and later said a little after 3 am and to get things going they would say that she was inconsistent with what she told them.
I know people are having a hard time about her walking out of the interview yesterday but I don't blame her a bit. When all the accusations started on her weeks ago, she should have contacted an attorney then. I don't see her as being "street smart" as some have said. I see a scared little girl. Scared of what I am not sure but so far I haven't seen this evil creature I have been reading here about.


Misty is a scared little girl and I too think she needs an attorney. It is time someone told her this! moo

Also, IF she only has a 7th grade education or even a 9th grade education which is what I would think is more likely - she might not have understood the questions being asked this morning.

My heart went out to her. She did look at Ron as if to say......."What?"
moo

My sincere prayer is that Misty / Ron / or anyone who HaLeigh loved and trusted did anything to her!

Are they searching tomorrow?

Why will LE not allow Tim and his volunteers to help? What are they thinking! Someone needs to find HaLeigh!

Hire a PI..............find HaLeigh -- not dig stuff up on Ron so that Crystal can get custody of Ron, Jr. Hey.............HaLeigh needs to be found soon!

Also............it looks as if Ron, Jr. is fine.............if LE thought Ron, Jr. was in danger, he would have been removed at that time.

Find HaLeigh..................Crystal, the PI you hired needs to find HaLeigh............other things can wait! MOO

[aproudmom]

I think Misty & Ron would look like they are hiding something if they get a lawyer.

I didn't know that LE could force anyone to talk. But learn something new everyday here if they can't force minors. Do that mean they can force adults to talk? TIA

Misty is being considered a minor, does anyone why was she alone with the new detective? Was she alone when she took the LDT? This is a hard case to solve.

I have heard some very good lawyers say they needed to have a lawyer just to help them with the media and what they were going to be dealing with alot of people who have done no wrong gets lawyers it is not telling anyone they are guilty as
far as force I mean she did not have to go talk to anyone if she did not want to I think LE would wonder more as to why she did not want to answer questions before they would think she is hiding something if she got a lawyer everyday people get lawyers Crystal has one.

I have even heard parents who have lost a child say they need lawyers to help them does not show guilt at all. LE deals with that everyday they just like it better when a lawyer is not there to tell them no more questioning.

I can not say for sure that her parents was or was not there but when she went in 2 other times it was on tv and her mom was getting in the car with her once and the other time she was walking out with her.

[bama__angel]

because le is now getting criticized on national tv about waiting so long to take the back door maybe. Takes the talk off their mistakes and put the light back on misty. Common practice.



what she said !!!!!!!!!!

[TaraCrazyHair]

Because LE is now getting criticized on national TV about waiting so long to take the back door maybe. Takes the talk off their mistakes and put the light back on Misty. Common practice.


Actually, I am thinking something came to light after the home was released back to Ron ... then the family was all in there and the news cameras .. etc

Maybe something was said or suggested in regards to the back door and LE jumped on it

Then Misty is brought back in for more questioning but this time by a hard nose detective and she decided he was rude and asked too many questions and was mean so she refused to talk to him anymore

And now LE has real concerns with her and her inconsistencies

[IlliniFan]

Well I am too at this point. :biggrin:

imo


Oh, well i just caused more questions by posting the darn link to the article...It really didn't answer much of anything...

[sunstar]

Oh, I think she understood the question plain and simple ... she just did not know how to answer since Ron did not jump in and tell her what to say

MOO

I'll watch the entire interview after Nancy's show is over, but from the little I saw, I got the same impression. It was almost like she was waiting for him to answer for her. MOO

[TaraCrazyHair]

OR, it's the other way around. She's covering for him.

I think that his sleazy lifestyle is why Haleigh was abducted. He knows it and probably knows who did it and she is covering for him.

It could also be that he lost his temper one too many times, something happened to Haleigh that worsened into the night and he chants he was at work in a CYA kind of way despite telling Misty what to do about it while he was gone ...

Then she called his bluff and forced marriage to keep her mouth shut

Almost blackmailed him to keep her story straight

(I watch a lot of movies so my imagination is rather vivid ... but the scenario could still be there!)

[5boxersmom]

Oh, well i just caused more questions by posting the darn link to the article...It really didn't answer much of anything...

I am glad you posted it. Makes for more discussion.:biggrin:

[nana6]

Bold-ed your statement.. I have also played with the speculation that maybe Misty was going to handle a drug purchase that night while Ronald was off "trying to earn an honest living". Something went wrong during that exchange. Cannot put my finger on it but I still believe Misty is the key.

JMO I still cannot get over the fact that 2 young girls ,Misty and Casey can go up against experienced law officials and not budge. These girls have ba--- of steel imo If I had been either one of them ,well I wouldn't have been but if I had been that age and got in any kind of trouble I know I would have been shaking uncontrollably and crying non stop. What is with these 2? Hard core to the bone imo

[cat3]

Because LE is now getting criticized on national TV about waiting so long to take the back door maybe. Takes the talk off their mistakes and put the light back on Misty. Common practice.

Could be that they are trying to divert attention to Misty,but it seems if they were wanting to correct Misty saying that she had passed they could have done it sooner than today.
I didn't know they were taking heat about the back door.I tend to agree with a poster on another thread that it was taken for more tests due to the smallness of the mesh in the screen.Maybe they decided later that more tests were needed.

[aproudmom]

Misty is a scared little girl and I too think she needs an attorney. It is time someone told her this! moo

Also, IF she only has a 7th grade education or even a 9th grade education which is what I would think is more likely - she might not have understood the questions being asked this morning.

My heart went out to her. She did look at Ron as if to say......."What?"
moo

My sincere prayer is that Misty / Ron / or anyone who HaLeigh loved and trusted did anything to her!

Are they searching tomorrow?

Why will LE not allow Tim and his volunteers to help? What are they thinking! Someone needs to find HaLeigh!

Hire a PI..............find HaLeigh -- not dig stuff up on Ron so that Crystal can get custody of Ron, Jr. Hey.............HaLeigh needs to be found soon!

Also............it looks as if Ron, Jr. is fine.............if LE thought Ron, Jr. was in danger, he would have been removed at that time.

Find HaLeigh..................Crystal, the PI you hired needs to find HaLeigh............other things can wait! MOO

I agree this child needs to be found and I pray this PI working for crystal is working to find Haleigh not to dig up stuff for a custody battle it is not the right time just as it was not the right time for them to marry. I do not know why they sent TES home but Tim Miller would have never left I know he is respected by LE but he did not have to leave if he did not want to it is just how he works they tell him what and where to search and his team goes there. I just think it was NOT enough time all the water and wooded area around there I just do not see every inch being searched. maybe I am wrong.

[Peaches]

What is LE saying that might not be true?



Because I watch "Law & Order".............I see it all the time. LE telling one person that another had ratted them out............and then the other one will talk...............:ohmy:

Where is HaLeigh???

And................do all of you have nothing to say.........I saw over 100 people on this site. Talk...........tell us where HaLeigh is and who has her. TIA

[crymeariver2006]

It could also be that he lost his temper one too many times, something happened to Haleigh that worsened into the night and he chants he was at work in a CYA kind of way despite telling Misty what to do about it while he was gone ...

Then she called his bluff and forced marriage to keep her mouth shut

Almost blackmailed him to keep her story straight

(I watch a lot of movies so my imagination is rather vivid ... but the scenario could still be there!)


IMO, the marriage is only one of convenience. I mean, hello...when the minister said "you may kiss the bride" - they hugged.

No, this marriage was brought about by Crystal getting the attorney. He thinks it will look better to CPS to have a wife instead of a "girlfriend slash babysitter" living in the home with two minor children and everybody sleeping in the same bed or same bedroom.

JMO

[IlliniFan]

I am glad you posted it. Makes for more discussion.:biggrin:


haha...you're just being nice....

I do wonder if Croslin Clan aren't trying to take the focus off of Misty, though....

[FoxySly]

That was very nice of you, Foxy. It's always nice to hear 'you did a good job.' I am sure Meridith appreciated your e-mail. Thanks! JMO

Thank you.

I send off bad ones too, can't count how many to NG trying to tell her the search for Caylee is over she isn't missing like she says starting off her show every single night.

I also messaged them here asking if they'd cover HaLeigh more:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29594662/

Sly

~

[TaraCrazyHair]

I still cannot get over the fact that 2 young girls ,Misty and Casey can go up against experienced law officials and not budge. These girls have ba--- of steel imo If I had been either one of them ,well I wouldn't have been but if I had been that age and got in any kind of trouble I know I would have been shaking uncontrollably and crying non stop. What is with these 2? Hard core to the bone imo

Has to be a personality thing

Although somebody posted earlier a comment that cracked me up ...


The difference with Casey and her police interviews was she thought it was "The Dating Game"

Too funny

(MOO)

[sunstar]

OR, it's the other way around. She's covering for him.

I think that his sleazy lifestyle is why Haleigh was abducted. He knows it and probably knows who did it and she is covering for him.

I'm really starting to lean toward this scenario because he's all too forgiving of her (by marrying her) for her being the one who was there when Haleigh got "abducted" and she was the one who was supposed to be taking care of Haleigh. That and him calling her his 'stupid ***** girlfriend' and at the same time telling LE he was going to kill whoever had Haleigh. MOO

[Leather&Lace]

Feb 17, 2009 CBS Early Show Interview with Teresa Neves and Misty Croslin

I just re-watched this interview with Teresa & Misty.
*If you take another look, notice when Teresa talks about Haleigh how Misty looks down.
*Also, I could not help but notice the emotion waiting to explode from Teresa while Misty appears to sit there.
*No hand holding or any touch of comfort between the two females.
* In this video, Misty expresses she just doesn't remember the questions asked of her re: the LDT ?
Interview starts at about 1:14

If you get a chance, take a look and share your opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HihQ_vPvn6c

[aproudmom]

I thought LE said today that they satisfied that Ron didn't know where Haleigh was or something like that?

I heard that also but was not satisfied with everything misty has said and the changing of stories. I am giving up on trying to figure out what is going on.

[TaraCrazyHair]

IMO, the marriage is only one of convenience. I mean, hello...when the minister said "you may kiss the bride" - they hugged.

No, this marriage was brought about by Crystal getting the attorney. He thinks it will look better to CPS to have a wife instead of a "girlfriend slash babysitter" living in the home with two minor children and everybody sleeping in the same bed or same bedroom.

JMO


Yikes

I am pretty certain they did kiss at that point

Also as far as the custody thing -- any Judge would completely understand the current circumstances in this case so marriage by Ron was not necessary

(Not to mention, show me a Judge that would decide a 17 year old bride of a 25 year old man was proper enough to solely decide custody??)

[Themis]

IIRC, Ron was the first one to claim that they both passed the LDT. He has said that more times than Misty.

They're both lying, imo. No one told them that. It's not what LE does.
You got it!

BTW, Tiffany, welcome to the board; I see you are a relative new poster. It's good to see new people.

[MrLucky917B]

I'll watch the entire interview after Nancy's show is over, but from the little I saw, I got the same impression. It was almost like she was waiting for him to answer for her. MOO

Thats exactly what I thought, if you can find the Greta interview it's the same thing there, see said something and looked at Ron for approval.

JMO

[sunstar]

Misty's blanket in the van? The one she had to wash along with Haleigh's so she took a sheet off the window to cover her up while the blankets washed?

I am more confused than ever lol

Yes, in one version, she said she had to take the window covering down because just that night she realized Haleigh had soiled her (Haleigh's) blanket the night before and her (Misty's) blanket was in the van. :sneaky: MOO

[Themis]

I think Misty & Ron would look like they are hiding something if they get a lawyer.

I didn't know that LE could force anyone to talk. But learn something new everyday here if they can't force minors. Do that mean they can force adults to talk? TIA

Misty is being considered a minor, does anyone why was she alone with the new detective? Was she alone when she took the LDT? This is a hard case to solve.L
LE has been treating Misty as a minor (and rightfully so) up to and including Wednesday.

Once she married she is considered an adult according to Florida law. JMO

[5boxersmom]

haha...you're just being nice....

I do wonder if Croslin Clan aren't trying to take the focus off of Misty, though....

No really I am glad you posted it. The most info I have seen about the van.

Thanks.

imo

[bama__angel]

?? I don't understand your response. Call me Duhhhhhh..
My point, LE does NOT like to be criticized, they messed up on not taking the door when they should have on the night Haleigh disappeared. That is NOT a small mess up....It is huge...



I totally agree with you.......All I meant

[sunstar]

I heard that also but was not satisfied with everything misty has said and the changing of stories. I am giving up on trying to figure out what is going on.

I think Nancy's show is too. With all the "news", they instead covered Casey Anthony in court and more of the jail videos and only a very brief mention of Haleigh and the number to call with tips. Sadly I think this is going to end up the same ~ that a stranger didn't abduct Haleigh. :sad: MOO

[TaraCrazyHair]

That is possible also. In fact, in the beginning that's what I thought happened. He has a terrible temper and it wouldn't be the first time that a child died as the result of a parent's uncontrolled temper.

I also thought that Misty may have hurt her because she wet the bed.

Imo, any of those scenarios are possible.

At this point, I'm pretty convinced that one of the two of them is responsible for what happened to Haleigh.

Traumatic injuries to the brain can present hours later ... Jr. would not understand his sister was hurt and not just sleeping

Two movies ...

Blanket washing (vomit?)

Coincidental timing ... wakes up to get a drink of water and calls ron as he is pulling into the driveway ..)

And the classic 911 call when he jumps to "stole" and the stupid B*&%ch let it happen (Almost rehearsed!)

This is pretty much where I am at with this case ...