Friday 3/13 Hope for Haleigh [Archive] - Page 2

Texas48

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

Morning Texas and hey, I agree with all your posts too! I think my wording just came up wrong, by bamboozled I mean that I don't think Ron or Misty saw the video clip which preceded their interview. I don't think Misty thought they were going to call her out on her inconsistencies that le now stated she has. I know NBC told them they'd be interviewing them about Haleigh, I just don't think Ron and Misty had their wits about them, thinking they were going to be asked the hard questions (soft questions to me, but hard to Ron and Misty).

Not only did Ron exclaim he was at work over and over, did you see the part where they were asking about Jr and he says "I don't know, I was at work" and then lifts his chin as to be somewhat defiant about it?

I agree with the other poster (sorry, forgot name) who said until Ron is accounted for throughout his entire shift, I won't buy it. Especially such a long shift and like that poster said, many who work in Ron's field leave for a lunch, drug hit or whatever.

Hope this makes sense, but just my opinions anyway.Does make sense and I think your opinions are good ones Viking. "I was at work" is getting old and NOT good enough. Some posters give him slack because "He was at work."...well...quess what? Many guilty people have also used the alibi..'I was at work." Doesn't make you innocent by NO means. I am certain I will be slamed for pointing finger at poor Ron but this is MO.

solar

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

I think we might see lil' miss Misty Lawyer up now.

As well she should. I believe all parties involved should seek legal counsel. I am surprised that they haven't, if only to give them guidance on how to deal with the media.

I am of the opinion that when you are dealing with any LE agency you should seek legal counsel even if you know you are innocent.

solar

annalyzer

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

And you would be outside knocking on doors and screaming your head off for help....running around everywhere SEARCHING. I think that is what I would have done and I think that is what you would have done. KWIM.?

Of course. While Misty was making the 911 call Ronald should have been outside yelling for Haleigh and looking for her outside. But he is heard in the background saying he is going to kill the person who stole his daughter.

4Kids

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

Misti definitely is hiding a secret. Ive wondered if she was seeing another guy when Ron was working?

Partying with Cousin Joe? that is my opinion. MOO

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

What else went away in that van???????

I wonder what was on or in that blanket..

KKKKKKatie

03-13-2009, 11:41 AM

so you think LE is lying now too?

Not out of the realm of possibility. It is allowed IMO

Owlface

03-13-2009, 11:42 AM

Beth Englema

03-13-2009, 11:44 AM

I'm more inclined to believe he married her to shut her up. Keep those you suspect and your enemies, close.

annalyzer

03-13-2009, 11:45 AM

Ronald again today with his oh so fake "please bring my daughter home, blah blah blah, I love you".

playnice

03-13-2009, 11:45 AM

Partying with Cousin Joe? that is my opinion. MOO

Could very well be.:scared:If he and Ron had a fight Ron may have forbid her to let him come around. Maybe he did and Misti let him. When he left he took Haleigh with him.
A possibility. The secret could be cousin Joe was there. Ron would be pi**ed for sure.

Owlface

03-13-2009, 11:45 AM

Are you allowed to WALK OUT while being questioned by police? I would think that if Misty was really a suspect she would have immediately been stopped from doing so. JMO

If she's not under arrest she most certainly can walk out. They then have the choice of arresting her. Then she has the choice of "lawyering up."

Further, nobody could make Casey talk and nobody, not even us, would be able to MAKE her talk.

jerry50

03-13-2009, 11:47 AM

She's either realy stupid or really gutsy to have done that. If you were really innocent, why would you walk out and complain about someone interrogating you too harshly? She should realize that everyone will be questioned this way and it's a good thing. LE HAS to get to the bottom of this.

I think that Misty feels she has convinced LE that she has nothing to do with the disappearance. LE has probably led her down this path in the hopes that she will say something incriminating.
For me it all goes to to Ron being involved. He doesn't seem to be the type to protect Misty, the f---ing b---h girlfriend who lost his daughter.
He would throw her under the bus without a second thought.
If Misty was involoved by herself she doesn't seem bright enough to have been able to hide Hayleigh's body where LE or someone else has been able to find it. Does anyone know if she had access to a car? If not then there has to be more than one person involved.
If something happened before Ron went to work then the possibilities of where to dump a body are almost endless. LE knows when Ron arrived at work but there is no way to know how long it took him to get there if he was disposing of something on the way there.

4Kids

03-13-2009, 11:48 AM

Could very well be.:scared:If he and Ron had a fight Ron may have forbid her to let him come around. Maybe he did and Misti let him. When he left he took Haleigh with him.
A possibility. The secret could be cousin Joe was there. Ron would be pi**ed for sure.

I think they my have been out partying...and Haleigh wandered away.

I think Ron was stunned about LE's stance on Misty that was announced today. He certainly did not bother to help her answer her questions...like I have seen him do in the past. They seemed a united front before. Not so much today. MOO.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

Or in it????

Yes........

Mimi428

03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

Keep those you suspect and your enemies, close.

One of the things that troubles me about Ron is that he answers as if he is a POW - name, rank, serial number - that's all you are going to get from him. "I don't know, I was at work". Name, rank, serial number.

Half the time I think the reason he looks so pizzed is because Misty isn't doing the same thing. She keeps answering, at least to some degree. He gives me the impression that he wants her to answer the same as he does, just give name, rank, serial number. "I don't know, I was asleep".

JMO

playnice

03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

I think that Misty feels she has convinced LE that she has nothing to do with the disappearance. LE has probably led her down this path in the hopes that she will say something incriminating.
For me it all goes to to Ron being involved. He doesn't seem to be the type to protect Misty, the f---ing b---h girlfriend who lost his daughter.
He would throw her under the bus without a second thought.
If Misty was involoved by herself she doesn't seem bright enough to have been able to hide Hayleigh's body where LE or someone else has been able to find it. Does anyone know if she had access to a car? If not then there has to be more than one person involved.
If something happened before Ron went to work then the possibilities of where to dump a body are almost endless. LE knows when Ron arrived at work but there is no way to know how long it took him to get there if he was disposing of something on the way there.

They are starting their timeline at 7:00pm tho which tells me they have a credible witness that saw her after Ron was at work.

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 11:54 AM

And they could have at least faced each other when taking their vows. :unsure:

I literally cringed when I heard Meredith Veira say, Ron and Misty Cummings.

I want to know if he was so in a hurry to marry her, to the point of getting on one knee at Chillis, why was he so miserable at the wedding, I mean he could have at least put a nice shirt on, it was the oddest thing I have ever seen.

jmo

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 11:55 AM

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 11:58 AM

Yup. Sounds like a possibility to me. I even think Misty could have been awake and he could have taken her and she would have allowed it (out of fear of him?). IMO.

Maybe Joe came by and he and Misty got to partying..She falls asleep, he takes Haleigh and leaves in the van.....She would probally go with him without making a fuss because she knew him..
This is MOO...

playnice

03-13-2009, 11:58 AM

Gma Sykes maybe? If so I question that theory.

A few days ago and I dont remember which show LE said the last person to see Haleigh was a neighbor.
I hope someone else remembers that too and where it can be found.

4Kids

03-13-2009, 11:58 AM

Maybe Joe came by and he and Misty got to partying..She falls asleep, he takes Haleigh and leaves in the van.....She would probally go with him without making a fuss because she knew him..
This is MOO...

As I stated above...I think (if the scenario is correct) that Joe and Misty were out partiyng...in that shack perhaps...came in right before Ron gets home and find Haleigh gone. That would explain no evidence to date. MOO

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:00 PM

I am new here but have been lurking for quite a while. Hi everyone! :smile:

I watched the Today show interview on widescreen Tv and then several times without the sound too. (By the way my husband also said, how old is that girl she looks 10?) During the so called wedding and reception he was noticeably detached. He did not face her, look at her, or connect with her then either. When she shoved the cake in his face you could tell he did not find any humor in that but Misty seemed shockingly giddy.

I originally suspected that whatever has happened to haleigh definitely involved knowledge on Ron's part but now I feel differently. I was struck by a couple things I want to mention. 1. Ron's leg was shaking, which indicates nervousness or maybe even annoyance. 2. He leaned away from Misty the entire interview and towards Meredith Viera. Which suggests to me that his nervousness or annoyance was not with her but instead with Misty who he was leaning away from. 3. he showed no connection whatsoever with Misty during the entire interview except to verbally defend her lie detector test and whether he believes her innocence. 4. Crossing his arms is indicative of being standoffish and resenting. 5. Ron was very stiff and his body language also indicates some type of deception although I do not believe in regard to Haleigh. He did his best to minimize his hand gestures.

With Misty I couldnt get passed the way she acted while speaking. Several times she looked up and left which indicates lying. (Her left would be to Ron's direction) She tried her best to keep her hands between her legs to hide her natural gestures.

I now strongly suggest that Ron might have married her to gain her trust and find out more information.
I am anxious to hear others opinions on this. Here is more information about body language and lying.

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php?showall=true
http://dating-advice.suite101.com/article.cfm/spotting_lies_with_body_language

yeah I think its very possible that is the reason he married her because he sure doesnt look happy about it.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:00 PM

Yet she coincidently makes no call till Ron drives up.

Yes cause she knows he would probally go off the deep end if Joe had been there and his daughter was gone..imo

Owlface

03-13-2009, 12:02 PM

And you would be outside knocking on doors and screaming your head off for help....running around everywhere SEARCHING. I think that is what I would have done and I think that is what you would have done. KWIM.?

It's totally what I would have done. Saying what he did on the phone call and everything that he's done since then has led me to believe he immediately knew what had happened to Haleigh and he's going to deal with it himself just as soon as everybody gets out of his face.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:03 PM

Yes cause she knows he would probally go off the deep end if Joe had been there and his daughter was gone..imo

She could pass on poly too if she was passed out and didnt see him take her. But in her heart she knows. Thats why sending LE after Joe.

I think something like this very well could have happened.

I do think someone was there that she doesnt want Ron to find out about.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:05 PM

She could pass on poly too if she was passed out and didnt see him take her. But in her heart she knows. Thats why sending LE after Joe.

I think something like this very well could have happened.

I do think someone was there that she doesnt want Ron to find out about.

I do too..I think she passed out and he took Haleigh..He could have told Haleigh he was taking her to the store or to see daddy......Misty knows the truth..imo

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:06 PM

And Cousin Joe is alledgedly the one who had the fight with Ron over the gun.......keep going......

Correct..:wink:

Owlface

03-13-2009, 12:06 PM

Not once did he say he got married because he loved Misty. Something is way off base here. They didnt even LOOK at each other while saying there vows and there own church wouldnt marry them.
I look for them to arrest Misty soon. jmo

Yeah - I think it is really stupid to get married because a 5 year old wants you to.

However, I don't for a minute believe, until I hear it from Haleigh's own mouth, that she repeatedly said I want dad and Misty to get married.

Owlface

03-13-2009, 12:09 PM

so you think LE is lying now too?

It's not so much that LE is lying but more they're parsing their words. They may not have had every minute of Ron's shift accounted for but they also don't have any solid information that he left work. What else can they say under those circumstances?

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:10 PM

I am thinking something happened and she called perhaps him or her sis and they used the van. Misty either went and came home and "cleaned" or as she said never left staying to "clean" instead.

Notice how she mentions cleaning in the 911. Who does that?

Remember there is a nieghbor who heard yelling about 1 hr before 911. Maybe Misty was on the phone w/ whoever helped her and she was freaking out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_s
WEIRD!

I hope they haul her back in till they get some truth out of her......:cursing:

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 12:13 PM

I hope they haul her back in till they get some truth out of her......:cursing:

My feeling is that there will be an arrest when they get back to Florida, anyone know when they get back.

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:15 PM

I am really starting to think that this Joe came over. He had intentions of taking Haleigh to "get even" or whatever with Ron for their previous fight. He and Misty argued (what the neighbor heard) about him taking her. Misty may have even tried to stop him. He could have threatened to harm her or Haleigh if she said anything or called police.

Maybe at first she didn't tell Ron. But maybe since then, Joe has made some demands of Ron and so, Misty has since told Ron. That may be why they both look guilty as of lately. Like they know something. Maybe they are trying to get money together for this Joe in hopes of getting Haleigh back safe and alive. Of course they can't tell LE because then Joe could do something rash. Like kill Haleigh.

I don't know. Anymore neither of them really looked concerned. It's almost as if they know Haleigh is ok. That there isn't anything to worry about. As long as they do what they are told.

Of course this all may sound batty but it's just one suggestion and only MO. At this point I think anything is possible. The only thing that may go against any of that is Jr. If there was arguing, a fight, some kind of commotion, don't you think he would have seen or heard it?

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:15 PM

My feeling is that there will be an arrest when they get back to Florida, anyone know when they get back.

I hope you are right.....I have no clue as to when they will get back....Today I hope..

ETA..She kinda reminds me of someone else..(CA)

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 12:17 PM

I think they my have been out partying...and Haleigh wandered away.

I think Ron was stunned about LE's stance on Misty that was announced today. He certainly did not bother to help her answer her questions...like I have seen him do in the past. They seemed a united front before. Not so much today. MOO.

The way he sat there with his arms folded was very telling, and the way see looked at him as asking for guidance..

JMO

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 12:19 PM

It's certainly as likely theory as any we have heard so far.

I agree.......

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:21 PM

Watch this end up totally different than any of us ever thought.

It's certainly as likely theory as any we have heard so far.

Motomom

03-13-2009, 12:32 PM

Good you got my point I think Moto misunderstood that is what I meant.

No, I dont think I misunderstood. All I am saying is that he was at work LOL.. I dont know if he beleives misty or not.. I mean he married her but still..there is something in his face.. cant put my finger on it. How can he be 100 percent sure? He cant.. I know I couldnt. All he knows is what he was told, i believe that.. if I still sound like im misunderstanding.. I might be LOL

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 12:33 PM

Thanks for sharing..............a Great story.

It's it wonderful what children can do for us...............at first sight, we love them without conditions.................we would give our own life that they live......be happy/etc.

Children are God's blessings for us..........as are grandchildren.

How can anyone hurt a trusting child? I hope that today is the day they find HaLeigh!

all moo

Yup, Liz thanks for sharing.

Peaches, as a little girl all I dream of was being a Mommy. My Baby Brother's bassinet went right into my room when I was 8 years old, I loved it, I loved him so much.

I understand drugs are addicting but I will never understand that addiction being stronger than the love addiction to a Child.
To not be able to get out of bed to take your Child to very important doctors appointments is IMO inexcusable!

My whole life changed just finding out I was carrying a baby. Raising my Son was the most important task in my life & my greatest joy.

I don't get that some don't want that same task but I highly respect those that know they don't want Children & don't give in just because others think they should have babies. It's the ones that keep having babies and not taking care of them. There is just no excuse with so much birth control to choose from IMO.

Sly

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SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:34 PM

Well, my first assumption/thought was that Misty was out when Haleigh went missing. That she left the back door propped open so that she could get back in before Ron got home. Either she was out partying, at the store, whatever. And, while she was gone, Haleigh woke up looking for her, saw the back door open, and went outside to look for Misty.

And, because they said search dogs tracked her scent to the woods, out of the woods, down the street, passed the house and to the tracks, that to me sounds like poor little Haleigh got confused while outside looking for Misty. And, somewhere along her wandering, some freak picked her up.

Misty of course came home and found her gone and then told the story she's been telling. But we really don't know.

Well, the only option that has not been seriously discussed involves Haleigh's mother's side of the family. Otherwise, unless she was abducted by space aliens, I think you guys have covered about every scenario. We haven't talked enough about Chad Reynolds, for my peace of mind, but it's hard to do when he's been missing since four days before Haleigh was taken/disposed of. It's fascinating, really, the way you all work, you don't just dive through the mountain of rocks to get at what is hidden at the bottom, you turn every rock over and over again wondering how it was placed there and why.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:35 PM

He was holding the shotgun!......lol

Yeah Ron looks like he is forced into this marriage. He does not look happy even a bit.

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 12:39 PM

Yeah Ron looks like he is forced into this marriage. He does not look happy even a bit.

I know. He even said he wanted to wait until Haleigh was found. :w00t:

JD1974

03-13-2009, 12:41 PM

Interview just aired, central time..

Did I hear the reporter say that LE is satisfied that Ron doesn't know or wasn't involved in haleigh's disappearance???

Wow that is what I just heard...LE is satisfied Ron doesn't know what happened to Haleigh, it is his new wife they aren't sure of....that is pretty damning imo.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:42 PM

I think Ron's body language during the interview is that of a person who just heard what the news correspondant had to say about Misty's inconsistencies. I do not believe up til now, that it had clicked in his mind that Misty may be full of it.

Another telling thing to me is when Meredith asked why they got married, he did NOT say, "Because it is something Haleigh wanted." or something to that effect like everyone else is saying.

I still believe Misty holds the key to getting Haleigh back.

JMO

I wasnt until today and now I do believe so.
LE has said very little up until now so that press release today happened for a reason as well as this marriage.

Owlface

03-13-2009, 12:43 PM

Surely if LE truly suspects misty, they have alerted ronald so that he can also pressure her for the truth. Divide and conquer, so to speak. But, instead ronald pops the question. I just don't understand.

LE's role is to find out what happened to Haleigh of course but its role also is to gather airtight evidence of wrongdoing so the person responsible can be convicted. They are not going to encourage Ron to do any of their investigation for them for a million reasons.

RoxyWest

03-13-2009, 12:43 PM

Can you imagine CA on that show?????

They kinda looked like they had been in a fight.
Certainly did not look like they wanted to be there.
Why did they go again?.......I am not getting it.

Bolding mine.

Just a guess ... $$$$$ ... ?

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 12:44 PM

I don't know. What has really changed since they left for New York? It seems they could have nabbed them before they left if they wanted to.

Prior to today's interview nothing had been said by LE about inconsistency's in her statements, when she said today that she didn't know why she changed her statements that was a big red flag.

JMO

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:44 PM

So true. Up until what we saw and heard from them today, all we heard from LE was "We can't discuss that at this time." I was frankly getting tired of hearing it. Now all of a sudden we hear how they are "concerned" they are and how they question the timeline, etc.

I wasnt until today and now I do believe so.
LE has said very little up until now so that press release today happened for a reason as well as this marriage.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:46 PM

He has a myspace page if i remember right.

I think the link was posted in the first few pages of last nights thread.

JD1974

03-13-2009, 12:47 PM

Bolding mine - From what I know of women in power and control relationships I believe that Crystal was railroaded out of custody of the children and it's only now when she has the power to stand up to Ron and right that wrong. I don't know who should have custody - Ron got it by default and not through any sort of investigation into what was in the children's best interest.

How was she railroaded? She recieved the paperwork and even wrote a response. After she lost, she retained a lawyer and tried to get it overturned.

JD1974

03-13-2009, 12:52 PM

I agree. Concern should be about finding Haleigh. NOT who's gonna get or keep Jr.

And, like you said, if there was talk of abuse before, why wait until now to do something about it? I call BS.

Seems like everyone's priorities are out of order.

Who was it that speculated early on that this was a ploy to get custody of the kids back? I remember reading it. If Haleigh disappeared during Ron's watch then Crystal would go for custody....whoever said it wondered if Haleigh is safe somewhere and will re-appear after custody is resolved.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:52 PM

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:53 PM

Hmmm....I don't know. I don't recall reading that.

Who was it that speculated early on that this was a ploy to get custody of the kids back? I remember reading it. If Haleigh disappeared during Ron's watch then Crystal would go for custody....whoever said it wondered if Haleigh is safe somewhere and will re-appear after custody is resolved.

playnice

03-13-2009, 12:55 PM

Who was it that speculated early on that this was a ploy to get custody of the kids back? I remember reading it. If Haleigh disappeared during Ron's watch then Crystal would go for custody....whoever said it wondered if Haleigh is safe somewhere and will re-appear after custody is resolved.

Ive thought that before but after todays developments I think Misti knows who took her.

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 12:57 PM

I can totally see that being possible too. Lots of people here have brought up some good scenarios/points.

Seriously, people, what if it was Misty and Cousin Joe who was arguing an hour before all hell broke loose, and what if Misty had already called Ron at work, and he was bustin butt to get home, and what if he was actually angry because she DID call 911? What if what he is really mad at her for is for making that call......maybe he thinks if she didn't this would all be over by now, Haleigh would be home, and the media would never have gotten involved.

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:00 PM

When asked why he and Misty got married, his answer should be somewhere along the lines of "Because I love her.", "Because she has been there with me through this nightmare." "She means so much to me." etc. Not, "Because Haleigh wanted it."

CANDYKISSES

03-13-2009, 01:01 PM

I am going to agree with Ronald that we need to get back to finding Haleigh.

We have discussed the personal lives of everyone involved ad naseum; now let's get back to the important matter of finding Haleigh.

I couldn't agree more MONEY! :thumbup:

JD1974

03-13-2009, 01:01 PM

Totally agree Cry...can you believe she had the guts to walk out of a police interview? This girl is a lot tougher than anyone gives her credit for. She will not break, they will need to find Haleigh to break this case. She and Ron getting married only fueled her strength. She's not smart, but she's stubborn and as long as the love of her life is buying what she's selling, she won't give a rip what anyone else thinks. Man, that's gotta take guts to walk out of a police interview. Unreal.

moo

I was thinking (scary) but what if Ron married Misty thinking she would tell him things because of the maritial privledge? Ron doesn't look happy that he is married...so I wonder if he thinks he can get something out of her if she thinks nothing she says to him can be used against her?

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:01 PM

She's talking about what was mentioned on the Today show. Back on page 3, I believe, I left a link to the video clip.

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Todays developments? Please fill me in. TIA

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 01:02 PM

Hi Sly and that is exactly why LE is not going to tell him if she is a suspect. For her sake if she had anything to do w/ this, then she ought to start thinking of getting into protective custody because I have a feeling this is gonna start tumbling down around here. LE will be the least of her worries. She will have Ron and 2 families coming at her.

Really after 4 weeks LE still has concerns w/ her inconsistencies.......well Houston we have a problem.

Come on, remember in the beginning we tried to make excuses for her like she was uneducated/young/bad childhood/media shy etc...... Well then why the heck can she stand there to the cameras and relate word for word how Ron proposed to her. It is like Casey calling 911 after she got out of jail......she knows how to do it!! If Misty has a truth to tell, her whole body language is totally different than when it is a lie. BODY LANGUAGE 101!

I agree TT,
Following true crime we know that the family is going to be looked at just as SO & the last one known to be with the Child which is Misty.

Her NOT calling 911 asap IMO is a major red flag.

Dang it!!! after watching her on TV today I have a very bad feeling way worse then the nulling feeling I had before.

The one myspace message has always made me feel uneasy... like how could one so young have so much jealousy & intense dislike in her? And over a guy I don't think she really knew at the time.

She set her sites on Ron big time when she made that post IIRC back in November... could she have been jealous of HaLeigh???

I seen both male & females be all nice to their boyfriend's/girlfriend's children but turned into monsters on them afterwards.

Sly

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MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 01:02 PM

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Todays developments? Please fill me in. TIA

Just watch the tape of the Today Show that will bring you up to date....

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:03 PM

NP. You are welcome!

I wanted to thank you Swinefeld for posting that link. I did not get to see it and I was so hoping someone would post it here.

Ron made me think of my brother, when my brother gets really nervous his leg shakes.

Could it be from going on National TV?...for some reason I did not picture Ron to be shy.

Misty walking out of the interview really bothers me and Ron holding up for Misty bothered me also.

Ok..back to reading everyone's thoughts.

Thanks again Swinefeld

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:03 PM

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Todays developments? Please fill me in. TIA

LE is satisfied that Ron had nothing to do with it.
Misti is a different story. She hold the key.
Timeline 7pm to 3.25 AM
Misti didnt like the way she was being questioned and walked out of the interview with LE.
The interviewer told her she was lying.

Brief breakdown with links somewhere in todays thread.

Mimi428

03-13-2009, 01:05 PM

I don't know. Anymore neither of them really looked concerned. It's almost as if they know Haleigh is ok. That there isn't anything to worry about. As long as they do what they are told.

<snipped>

I don't get the impression from either Ron or Misty that they think Haleigh is OK. I get the impression from both of them that their mindset is "what's done is done, believe what I tell you & let me go on with what I want to do".

Why they decided to get married at this time is beyond me. I don't, however, think Ron has been doubting her & has decided to marry her in order to win her confidence & then see if he can trip her up in inconsistencies. From all that we have seen of him, he has not one time demonstrated that he has the patience, the presence of mind, the composure in his demeanor, the temperment or the sophistication that sort of endeavor would require. It would require a HUGE amount of all of those things to stay in the same room with someone you believe knows why your child is missing.

If he had even the slightest notion of trying that sort of thing then I think we would be seeing him trying to make an effort of showing he has confidence in Misty. He doesn't show he has confidence in her, all he manages to do is cover for himself - "I was at work, I wasn't home, I don't know".

JMO

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:06 PM

Looks like a gangsta wannabe. If I remember correctly, he had way more pics in his profile before. Lots of him and his "crew" acting gangsta. Posing all stupid and smoking dope.

dude looks hispanic.

Owlface

03-13-2009, 01:07 PM

Ron did not get custody by default. There was a hearing and both Ron and Crystal testified. At the end of the hearing the judge left the kids in Ron's custody. She wasn't railroaded out of custody.

I understand there was quite a discussion about this but it is my understanding that there was a hearing that Ron appeared at, but, for whatever reason, Crystal didn't. The judge granted Ron custody because, in his opinion, since Crystal, by her absence, didn't contest it - happens all the time. At some later point there was another hearing, but the judge decided not to transfer custody to Ron because Crystal hadn't met the burden of proof for a change in custody - this happens all the time too. I have not seen any evidence that there was a guardian ad litem appointed or a custody evaluation done, anything like that where an independent third party investigated both parents and made a recommendation to the judge about the children's best interest. Ron got custody by default and once custody is assigned the other party has to prove them unfit for a change in custody. This is the way it goes in my state anyway.

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:07 PM

And the grilling on the eve of the wedding that got so bad she walked out!

How the heck does someone pass a LDT and yet LE has questions about inconsistent statements.......That is impossible!!...IMO...I think she is lying to Ron, what else can she tell him?? So of course she has to lie to us.

I think you just hit the nail on the head.

5swab5

03-13-2009, 01:09 PM

He sure didnt say because i love Misty did he:scared:

Not that I heard. This whole thing is so silly, bad..no...horrible timing and then Ron says they are going to have another fancier wedding. Why even bother with this one?

Not like we can't count to 9 months. MOO and MEOW, if I need it.:wink:

JD1974

03-13-2009, 01:09 PM

Misty may not be book smart, but that girl sure is street smart...She's not as innocent as some tend to think....She set her eyes on Ron back when she was babysitting Amber's child, and nothing was going to stop her from getting what SHE WANTED....

To me, Ron is the naive one...

I had Misty pegged from the beginning. I stated over and over that people like her (dealing with LE) are very street smart.

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 01:09 PM

I watched the video even tho my puter froze up after. I agree that Ron does not look happy to have married her.
Im wondering if he truly trusts and believes her.
Could he married her thinking if she is happy and comfortable the little witch will let something spill? She looks like she got what she wanted and he looks angry and unhappy.
There is a story to this marriage and it isnt what they are saying.

Ditto!!! I'm more scared & have a greater sicking feeling now/today than I have been.

I've been hoping & praying that maybe crystal & family took HaLeigh but after that show damn I think she did something to/with HaLeigh.

Please, please LE search close by!!! She couldn't have taken her far if it was Misty!!!

Sly

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CANDYKISSES

03-13-2009, 01:10 PM

She walked out of a police interview??????

:w00t:

Cryme, bottom line is that LE IS ALLOWED TO LIE to you when questioning you UP UNTIL THE TIME OF CHARGES, so why on earth would anyone NOT EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO REFUSE TO COOPERATE???

This is a good example of how easy it would be for LE to basically coerce a young person into a false confession if they did not exercise their right to get up and walk out when they start trying to push their way into making their thought or theory FIT YOU IMOO. :cursing:

IF Misty has some knowledge she hasn't revealed or IF SHE IS RESPONSIBLE for HALEIGH GOING MISSING, they need to do this the right way. Please take note, Mr. and Mrs. Cummings still have yet to LAWYER UP or CHANGE MYSPACE ACCOUNTS that are followed by the public IMHO, but someone else certainly has. :w00t:

JMO

mags

03-13-2009, 01:11 PM

I was thinking (scary) but what if Ron married Misty thinking she would tell him things because of the maritial privledge? Ron doesn't look happy that he is married...so I wonder if he thinks he can get something out of her if she thinks nothing she says to him can be used against her?

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even LE suggested this to Ron. It seemed for awhile that they were not even together anymore than the next thing you know they are getting married.

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:13 PM

Who was it that speculated early on that this was a ploy to get custody of the kids back? I remember reading it. If Haleigh disappeared during Ron's watch then Crystal would go for custody....whoever said it wondered if Haleigh is safe somewhere and will re-appear after custody is resolved.
It is a good senerio....but...this is a 5 year old little girl...not a baby that could NOT talk. Haleigh would be able to tell LE exactly where she was and who had for her. I don;t think that would work out too well for Crystal. jmo

Mimi428

03-13-2009, 01:16 PM

I had Misty pegged from the beginning. I stated over and over that people like her (dealing with LE) are very street smart.

Oh, I definitely think that she is street smart. I also include Ron in that category. He is 8 years older than she is, has been arrested several times, been issued traffic tickets in several counties in Florida & been in court more than a handful of times as well. If she is street smart when it comes to dealing with LE then Ron, by comparison, has extended past street smart into street genius.

JMO

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:18 PM

JD1974

03-13-2009, 01:18 PM

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even LE suggested this to Ron. It seemed for awhile that they were not even together anymore than the next thing you know they are getting married.

What makes me think so even more is Ron standing by her even after hearing the comment about inconsistent statements...if he married her and is just acting like he is sticking by her that would explain that to me. Kind of like dealing with the devil to get his daughter back.

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:19 PM

<bolding mine>

When Ron was questioned by Meredith as to why the marriage now, Ron responded with "I don't know I think that my little girl would have wanted it, I would have rather her to have been there so obviously when we get her back and we will do it in a much larger, better way but um, that's still drawing the focus off Haleigh, we need to be focused on Haleigh and not what I'm doing in my personal life."

mooWasn't it TN that said they got married now was because that is what the kids wanted and they just never had the time before..now they have the time? I remember hearing this but can not remember when..I think it was yesterday. Going to go back and check..

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 01:20 PM

Unless you are under arrest anyone can walk out of a police interview. It doesn't show guts or toughness. And IIRC the police will tell people at the beginning that they can leave at any time.

Why would you want to get up and leave if you are telling the truth?

JD1974

03-13-2009, 01:21 PM

Oh, I definitely think that she is street smart. I also include Ron in that category. He is 8 years older than she is, has been arrested several times, been issued traffic tickets in several counties in Florida & been in court more than a handful of times as well. If she is street smart when it comes to dealing with LE then Ron, by comparison, has extended past street smart into street genius.

JMO

Oh I have no doubt about that! I was refering to the posters who said LE would have cracked Misty by now, I posted over and over again that just because she does not have a good education does not mean she is not street smart when it comes to dealing with the police. Repeat over and over...I was asleep, I don't know what happened.

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:24 PM

<snipped>

I don't get the impression from either Ron or Misty that they think Haleigh is OK. I get the impression from both of them that their mindset is "what's done is done, believe what I tell you & let me go on with what I want to do".

Why they decided to get married at this time is beyond me. I don't, however, think Ron has been doubting her & has decided to marry her in order to win her confidence & then see if he can trip her up in inconsistencies. From all that we have seen of him, he has not one time demonstrated that he has the patience, the presence of mind, the composure in his demeanor, the temperment or the sophistication that sort of endeavor would require. It would require a HUGE amount of all of those things to stay in the same room with someone you believe knows why your child is missing.

If he had even the slightest notion of trying that sort of thing then I think we would be seeing him trying to make an effort of showing he has confidence in Misty. He doesn't show he has confidence in her, all he manages to do is cover for himself - "I was at work, I wasn't home, I don't know".

JMOITA and will futher add I do NOT believe Ron is all that innocent. jmo

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 01:25 PM

Yes, Teresa said that's what Haleigh always wanted and she couldn't wait for her to be her "mommy" as if that wasn't a slap in the face, talk about slinging mud.

moo

Good thing I'm not Crystal...I wouldn't like that remark...:no:

Former Juror

03-13-2009, 01:26 PM

Something is going to break on this case.....and soon, IMO.

The quick engagement, after reports that they aren't even together anymore, plus a wedding in the same week, both tell me that something major is up.

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 01:26 PM

Cryme, bottom line is that LE IS ALLOWED TO LIE to you when questioning you UP UNTIL THE TIME OF CHARGES, so why on earth would anyone NOT EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO REFUSE TO COOPERATE???

This is a good example of how easy it would be for LE to basically coerce a young person into a false confession if they did not exercise their right to get up and walk out when they start trying to push their way into making their thought or theory FIT YOU IMOO. :cursing:

IF Misty has some knowledge she hasn't revealed or IF SHE IS RESPONSIBLE for HALEIGH GOING MISSING, they need to do this the right way. Please take note, Mr. and Mrs. Cummings still have yet to LAWYER UP or CHANGE MYSPACE ACCOUNTS that are followed by the public IMHO, but someone else certainly has. :w00t:

JMO

Don't wag your finger at me. That was the first I heard about her walking out of a police interview. Walked out. Because she claims that the officer was rude to her. Rude.

How is that cooperating with the police?

They have been cooperating, right?

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:28 PM

I understand there was quite a discussion about this but it is my understanding that there was a hearing that Ron appeared at, but, for whatever reason, Crystal didn't. The judge granted Ron custody because, in his opinion, since Crystal, by her absence, didn't contest it - happens all the time. At some later point there was another hearing, but the judge decided not to transfer custody to Ron because Crystal hadn't met the burden of proof for a change in custody - this happens all the time too. I have not seen any evidence that there was a guardian ad litem appointed or a custody evaluation done, anything like that where an independent third party investigated both parents and made a recommendation to the judge about the children's best interest. Ron got custody by default and once custody is assigned the other party has to prove them unfit for a change in custody. This is the way it goes in my state anyway.IMO this is how it works in most states. I keep going back to CPS had Ron/Misty and Home and children on radar prior to Haleigh missing. Will go and look for that also.

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

It's possible, but so many things would have had to go RIGHT for an offender to walk in, prop the door with a brick (did he bring the brick himself?), turn on the kitchen light, walk into a room with more then one person, and lift up a child with no disturbance from others, or the child.

I always thought SO to until just the past few days. Now Im not so sure and believe Misti does have a big clue.
R U January?

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Why would you want to get up and leave if you are telling the truth?

Exactly. What part of "they are cooperating fully" squares with walking out of a police interview?

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:31 PM

Tia

03-13-2009, 01:32 PM

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:32 PM

I'm not so convinced Ron saw through Misty in the Today Show interview because at the end of the interview when Meredith asks if Misty thought the police viewed her as a suspect, she says "No I don't" adamantly and ron follows it up with "I don't either, I talked to lead detective, his name is john merchant, nope he doesn't think she's a suspect".

Both of these people have EVERYTHING to do with Haleigh's disappearance, imo. I am now more convinced of that than ever. Why wouldn't Misty say "I don't know if le suspects me" instead she defiantly and immediately assumes that le doesn't consider her a suspect? If anyone should know that le has said over and over again that no one is ruled out, everyone is a person of interest, it would be Misty, Ron and Crystal. Ron goes onto further defend her and state that John Merchant said so. I bet le found that little nugget interesting.

mooI'm jumping right out there with you Viking and say ITA w/this post. So many believe Misty is guilty of "something" and poor Ron married her just to get more information as to where Haleigh is at and what happened to her. I disagree...IF Misty KNOWS anything...then Ron KNOWS the exact same things. jmo

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:33 PM

Huh? I was born in December, why?

Someone I posted on Caylee board liked to poke holes.
Just thought maybe you were her.:biggrin:

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 01:33 PM

There are 3 major rumors that could mean something.

1) Did Ron and Misty break up, and Misty bail for a couple days before Haleigh went missing?

2) Was there an altercation with Ron and ANYONE before Haleigh disapeared?

3) was Misty home the ENTIRE TIME the night Haleigh went missing?

I am one that feels Misty has a role in this, But I don't see her as pulling this off by herself, or killing Haleigh by herself.

I had seen somewhere were Misty made the comment "I had a tiring weekend" (or something like that), what was that all about and when did it end since she didn't have to report back for baby sitting duty until Ron went to work at 4.

JMO

omsk99

03-13-2009, 01:38 PM

Greta's was pre-recorded also. She said they did not get married!

I saw that too, and was just about to post that :seeya:

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:38 PM

hahahaha....no...I'm a dude.

Oh. That explains the hole poking. j/k

Texas48

03-13-2009, 01:39 PM

Unless it is someone who did it for Crystal, but did not tell Crystal, and is guiding her towards filing for custody........and has Haleigh safe and sound. But why not take both......because leaving one child would give her one to file for custody for? Can she file for custody of Haleigh even if she is missing? Is Jr potty trained? Just askin.....its the squirrels in my brain again...... Are those squirrels crawling? lol

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 01:39 PM

That's not entirely true. She usually starts off with Casey Anthony case but she does go on to other news later on in her show. Last night she discussed Haleigh and I believe the night before she had the Alabama shooting and Drew Peterson.

I guess it all depends on the breaking news. I much prefer NG to JVM because when she discusses a case, she usually allows a good half hour whereas JVM has so much on her plate that nothing really is discussed in detail.

That's just me though. :smile:

You are correct she did have Haleigh on I watch her every day sometimes 2 times just to make sure I dont miss anything. I think people should just be happy she still talks about these kids I did not see the little boy adji or something like that I NEVER saw him on GVS or GR I may have missed it since I pretty much stopped watching them.

I thank NG for all she does she may not be what some like but I do she gets right down to it.

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 01:40 PM

I think LE should set the home up exactly as it would have been that night, and go thru a step by step with Misty and her every movement. She would have to explain what angle she could see the kitchen light on, what bathroom she was going to use, etc...

Hopefully that was done a long time ago.

What side of the bed was JR on?

Former Juror

03-13-2009, 01:41 PM

splain it to me, lucy.....are you really a former juror? Am I allwed to ask that? Because you would be in a good position to put some perspective in what is happening.

I really am a former juror, but I don't think it gives me any more insight than anyone else because my case was not a missing person's case.

I just think there have been some bizarre behaviors that are leading to a break in this case. In the beginning, I was not strongly suspicious of Ron and Misti. I feared it was another sexual predator with the opportunity to get into a house and get a young child. (My guess is that, IF Misti had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance, she was NOT home at the time she was taken.)

Then came the reports of CPS visits and Haleigh's school absences and abuse allegations with pictures and rumors of a party house and Ron's criminal history and his reaction to Geraldo and the tattoo and the supposed break-up and the engagement and the immediate wedding and now reports of Misti's inconsistencies. It all leads me to believe that something is going to happen soon.....with or between those two people. Misti concerns me most, but I can't get away from the fact that he married her.

I have not been suspicious of Crystal, although I strongly question her judgement.

cloe23

03-13-2009, 01:47 PM

I have been reading on here and am interested as to why LE wouldn't
clue Ron in that they are leaning towards Misty being guilty of killing Haleigh? Then for sure the wedding wouldn't of taken place. IMO
Ron could of been a good investagating tool, maybe ware a wire and get her to confess.
Or is LE only confused about Misty's time line, not her involvement?

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:47 PM

What...did everyone fall asleep at the same time?

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 01:47 PM

You are correct she did have Haleigh on I watch her every day sometimes 2 times just to make sure I dont miss anything. I think people should just be happy she still talks about these kids I did not see the little boy adji or something like that I NEVER saw him on GVS or GR I may have missed it since I pretty much stopped watching them.

I thank NG for all she does she may not be what some like but I do she gets right down to it.

(I wish Adji got some more attention) :sad:

Mimi428

03-13-2009, 01:50 PM

Yeah I don't think it was a SO or stranger either. They'd have to be REALLY lucky to just walk into a house they know nothing about, turn on a kitchen light not knowing who or what was inside, then carry someone out. I just don't believe it. Whoever it was was comfortable in that house and with the occupants inside.

Especially when you consider they would have to get right to the floor level before they could pick Haleigh up off of that little mattress on the floor. That is too far down from a standing up level for a person to be able to just lean over & scoop her up in their arms while they kept standing on their feet. I think it would take at least a little bit of kneeling down on at least one knee.

JMO

Search4U

03-13-2009, 01:51 PM

I am at work and appreciate the updates! Is Misty with Ron in New York? Was there a presser?

Wake up everyone!! :)

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 01:51 PM

I'm not so convinced Ron saw through Misty in the Today Show interview because at the end of the interview when Meredith asks if Misty thought the police viewed her as a suspect, she says "No I don't" adamantly and ron follows it up with "I don't either, I talked to lead detective, his name is john merchant, nope he doesn't think she's a suspect".

Both of these people have EVERYTHING to do with Haleigh's disappearance, imo. I am now more convinced of that than ever. Why wouldn't Misty say "I don't know if le suspects me" instead she defiantly and immediately assumes that le doesn't consider her a suspect? If anyone should know that le has said over and over again that no one is ruled out, everyone is a person of interest, it would be Misty, Ron and Crystal. Ron goes onto further defend her and state that John Merchant said so. I bet le found that little nugget interesting.

moo

I missed it do they have it on the net anywhere????

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:52 PM

Oh ok. LOL Everyone got quiet all at once.

lunch break lol

cloe23

03-13-2009, 01:52 PM

Maybe Ron is in NYC to do just that.

Why wouldn't LE clue him in so he didn't marry her? I think that is sad he is already suffering. JMO

SwineFeld

03-13-2009, 01:52 PM

The link to the Today show interview can be found on page 3, I believe.

I missed it do they have it on the net anywhere????

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 01:53 PM

I have been reading on her and am interested as to why LE wouldn't
clue Ron in that they are leaning towards Misty being guilty of killing Haleigh? Then for sure the wedding wouldn't of taken place. IMO
Ron could of been a good investagating tool, maybe ware a wire and get her to confess.
Or is LE only confused about Misty's time line, not her involvement?

IMO, it would not be a good idea for LE to tell Ron of any suspicions they have of Misty. For the simple fact that he himself (Ron) is not cleared and might possibly have knowledge of something before or after the fact.

I believe the wedding was set into motion upon hearing that Crystal got an attorney. IMO, that shows he might have something to fear. Otherwise, he and Misty would have gone about their merry way.

Again, IMO

skylark

03-13-2009, 01:53 PM

Sorry to jump in here!.. but in the UK a crime scene would have been reconstructed here (child abducted from their home!).

Will the LE go down that road?

Skylark

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 01:54 PM

Going back to the interview this morning I think Misti was taken by surprise when she was nailed down about her inconsistances and point blank asked why? Misti looked at Ron to see his reaction. I think this hit him out of no where too.
Misti said, "I dont know." I think the Honeymoon just ended this morning.

I think you're right!!!

He didn't look happy getting married & even way more unhappy this morning.

"Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said.

Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said.
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/13/news/news01.txt

Who ever posted this link THANK YOU!!!

Sly

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Mimi428

03-13-2009, 01:55 PM

Maybe Ron is in NYC to do just that.

I sure can't imagine why or how. He has shown zero capacity up to this point of being the sort who could play the role of secret agent or undercover spy.

And there is NO WAY in his world I can believe LE would recruit him to trip Misty up. She is 17 years old, if she is arrested for anything & it was found out Ron was playing secret agent at the behest of LE - her defense attorney would have a field day blowing a hole the size of a barn door through the prosecution's star witness - her darling husband, Ron.

JMO

PBJMOM4

03-13-2009, 01:56 PM

haha..yeah...then I really screwed up and called her a chick.:tongueside:

BWAHAHA! That was good!

Jsut curious, Did Ron or Misty mention any places of intersest they were going to, or mention any plans for today on the Today Show?

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 01:58 PM

playnice

03-13-2009, 01:58 PM

Maybe Ron is clued in. Maybe that explains the quick marriage. Maybe Ron is telling Misty right now that she can tell him anything now cuz they are married.

R they legally married or was this a fake minister or jp?

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 01:59 PM

I am at work and appreciate the updates! Is Misty with Ron in New York? Was there a presser?

Wake up everyone!! :)

Yes she is with him..

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

Dunlurken

03-13-2009, 02:00 PM

Ron is stupid and does not care about his child. Guess he needs a little "happiness" to keep him going.

It's kind of difficult to take myself down to their level. JMO. Yeah, my kid is missing, so think I'll get married because it's what Haleigh "have" would want. :confused: Everyone speaks of her in the past tense.

Am I missing something?

summer4meplz

03-13-2009, 02:00 PM

Maybe Ron is clued in. Maybe that explains the quick marriage. Maybe Ron is telling Misty right now that she can tell him anything now cuz they are married.

that would sure explain it....

Mimi428

03-13-2009, 02:01 PM

Spy vs. Spy?

I love it!

:laugh:

Wayellllllllll, you notice they have already got the Alfred E. Neuman "what, me worry?" postures downpat...

JMO

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 02:01 PM

If you are telling the truth but the police keep accusing you of lying I could see getting frustrated to the point of walking out.

I wouldn't if I knew I was telling the truth..

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 02:01 PM

Maybe Misti is pregnant and Ron married her so if she goes to jail he will get the baby instead of her parents. :shrug:

imo

Dunlurken

03-13-2009, 02:01 PM

Yes she is with him..

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

They are on their "honey moon". :mellow: Paid for by the media, while Haleigh is probably out in the elements somewhere.

playnice

03-13-2009, 02:01 PM

JD1974

03-13-2009, 02:03 PM

I sure can't imagine why or how. He has shown zero capacity up to this point of being the sort who could play the role of secret agent or undercover spy.

And there is NO WAY in his world I can believe LE would recruit him to trip Misty up. She is 17 years old, if she is arrested for anything & it was found out Ron was playing secret agent at the behest of LE - her defense attorney would have a field day blowing a hole the size of a barn door through the prosecution's star witness - her darling husband, Ron.

JMO

Maybe they don't care about charges, they just want Haleigh back. I would take having my child returned to me over not being able to make charges stick anyday. IF she is just missing, if she is no longer alive it won't matter what Ron says...happened before they were married.

Dunlurken

03-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Maybe Misti is pregnant and Ron married her so if she goes to jail he will get the baby instead of her parents. :shrug:

imo

I think you're right. She's preggers.

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 02:04 PM

I've only got a few minutes and wanted to thank everyone for the updates and links today!

HLN is not covering a lot of the happenings yesterday or this morning.:sad:

Dunlurken

03-13-2009, 02:05 PM

Yes. Todays interview and LE press statement. Start there.

I watched it live. At first Misty had only the haleigh shirt on. Then the studio got a bit cold, so she put on a sweater thing, but made sure Haleigh's picture was there.

I dislike these people intensely. JMO. Both of them.

JD1974

03-13-2009, 02:06 PM

I think you're right. She's preggers.

So? He didn't marry any of the other women pregnant with his children.. I just can't see a person like Ron marrying for propriety's sake!

JD1974

03-13-2009, 02:07 PM

Of course I do. ok..ok....cute was not the right word....I'm Handsome. :laugh: You?

I was going to say something about love connection but all I can really do is laugh about you two :lol::lol:

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Oh come on! LE has not recruited Ron to sniff out the truth from Misty in some covert operation.

I think some of you have been watching too much tv!

ITA. LE doesn't deal in weddings and schemes worthy of a Broadway production.

cloe23

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Maybe Ron is clued in. Maybe that explains the quick marriage. Maybe Ron is telling Misty right now that she can tell him anything now cuz they are married.

Hum, I hope LE gets to the bottom of this soon.
As far as I am concerned I don't believe Misty about the kitchen light being on. I think she was or is scared chitless to tell Ron that she noticed Haleigh missing much sooner then 3am. JMO

playnice

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Oh come on! LE has not recruited Ron to sniff out the truth from Misty in some covert operation.

I think some of you have been watching too much tv!

:biggrin: It is hinky that Ron got a quicky marriage and looks very unhappy about it and LE take the mute off their mouth and announce they are satisfied with Ron not being involved but think the new Mrs Cummings is lying and holds the key .

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Darnit. I was hoping you would say "people think I look like Shania Twain!"

hehehehe

Get a room! :laugh:

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 02:14 PM

K. I have a way off the wall theory.
Just about a week ago it was reported they broke up. IIRC Theresa said she didnt know.
What if this is a trap and Ron is involved in it.
Mitsi is very happy. Seems to have gotten what she wants.
What if the church was in on it to refuse to marry them because Misti picked that one out. So they bring a fake minister or JP in to marry them.
Today LE come off mute and damned near say Misti is a liar.Last night they really kick in the pressure on her and she walks out.

Now they start really coming down and Ron is new hubby. She breaks down and tells him.

What ya think? Maybe I have a vivid imagination. I dont know.

I think your vivid imagination could just be right!

I don't know anything anymore after that show!!! I'm more scared for HaLiegh than ever!!!

Ron didn't want to get married way easy to figure that one.
Misty way happy to be married easy to see.
Misty walks out of LE interview... RED FLAG
Misty has to be told by Ron "Why you callin' me!!! You need to be callin' 911... RED FLAG

PLEASE LE search close to the home!!! Bring in the cadaver dogs!!!

Sly

~

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 02:15 PM

No disrespect but it isn't you. What you or I would or wouldn't do means nothing. Everyone of us can sit here and say "I wouldn't do this" or "I would do that" but unless/until we are in that situation we don't know what we would or wouldn't do.

I was robbed at gunpoint last year. I didn't act the way I always thought I would act if I ever got robbed. In fact I did the exact opposite of how I always thought I would act. I was so calm afterward that the detective investigating it briefly thought I was involved.

That was MO and a message board is for opinions......
:wink:

cloe23

03-13-2009, 02:15 PM

Oh come on! LE has not recruited Ron to sniff out the truth from Misty in some covert operation.

I think some of you have been watching too much tv!

Ouch..................

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 02:16 PM

if they are staying at the ritz and eating at tavern on the green, my head will explode.

lol.............

sammy

03-13-2009, 02:17 PM

I am at work and appreciate the updates! Is Misty with Ron in New York? Was there a presser?

Wake up everyone!! :)

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

Hi Search ...
LE made some interesting statements in this news story from today.
LE says that if they can resolve Ms Croslin's inconsistent stories - they should be able to solve this disappearence.
Also that they are focused on the time period of 7pm -> 3:27am.

**for some reason my link is not working --- I posted it in the "link thread" here though and it works there.**

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 02:19 PM

lol

.

Hi............:smile:

cloe23

03-13-2009, 02:21 PM

I sure can't imagine why or how. He has shown zero capacity up to this point of being the sort who could play the role of secret agent or undercover spy.

And there is NO WAY in his world I can believe LE would recruit him to trip Misty up. She is 17 years old, if she is arrested for anything & it was found out Ron was playing secret agent at the behest of LE - her defense attorney would have a field day blowing a hole the size of a barn door through the prosecution's star witness - her darling husband, Ron.

JMO

I tend to agree, thanks for the reminder of Ron's anger issues. If he had or has any suspicion then imo, Ron would knock the truth right out of Misty.

playnice

03-13-2009, 02:23 PM

Gosh. Just had flashbacks.LE says Misti holds the key.
How many times did we hear LE say Casey holds the key?
Just gave me shivers. :eek:

skylark

03-13-2009, 02:26 PM

byw Oceanviewnan.... I am off work thank you... not 10!.. Guess your post is referring to me!! Everyone has an opinion and I am giving mine!!

Skylark

IlliniFan

03-13-2009, 02:29 PM

I tend to agree, thanks for the reminder of Ron's anger issues. If he had or has any suspicion then imo, Ron would knock the truth right out of Misty.

I think so too. I think if Ron thought Misty harmed his daughter, Misty would be missing.....I don't know...why..he would cover for her...I just am not seeing that Ron is involved in Haleigh's disappearance..imo

playnice

03-13-2009, 02:29 PM

I would like to see Chad Reynolds captured. The more ruled out, the more focus can move inward.

Yep. ITA. I wonder if Misti knew him because I believe I read his gp live close by.

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 02:29 PM

My only problem is why has LE not came out to the public and said they did or did not pass the LDT's one day they have the next day they are bringin them back in for interviews and I think Misty is hiding something maybe not anything to do with Haleigh but afraid to say she was not there when she was taken.
I am sorry I see NO reason for LE not to rule them out since they are so sure RC knows nothing. I took from one part of todays interview was RC saying I ASK HIM and gave the detectives name IF MISTY was Lying IMO if RC was told they were not sure he would never marry her he would kill her just my words. I see Misty as a young girl who is afraid not so much telling lies.
I dont know does anyone know if Crystal has said she knows for a fact she herself passed the LD test? if crystal has been told then maybe RC and Misty have been told also so far I have not heard they passed. I also wonder if the changing storys of the night is why they keep bringing her in because she has passed and they are trying to see if she may have just not told them the whole truth. I Dont know man I can not figure this out LE needs to start talking alittle more if they feel they had nothing to do with it.

I wish TES would return because seems LE has not checked and cleared all areas as they said they had. I wonder if the family has called him and begged him to come back.

They were not married when Haleigh became missing so they can't say that is why they married

I even ask a few days ago why misty was not around I wonder if she left because everyone was looking at her and she felt RC was not supporting her and standing up for her and he ask LE if they felt she had done something they said NO so he ask her to come back and then ask her to marry him.

just throwing things out there.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

cloe23

03-13-2009, 02:33 PM

I would like to see Chad Reynolds captured. The more ruled out, the more focus can move inward.

Sure would be nice.

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 02:37 PM

Sorry one more thing I caught Misty said she went back into the bedroom to get her phone to call RC but he was pulling up to me I take that as they both had cellphones if they did I would think LE would have ask them to hand them over to see who was called and when and check the pings from towers. these days as we saw in Caylee's case the phone records told alot and the only way it would not ping is if it had been shut off you do not have to be on the phone for them to check the pings. I also remember seeing her walking just days after she had a cell phone in her hand. JMO

KKKKKKatie

03-13-2009, 02:40 PM

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 02:43 PM

K. I have a way off the wall theory.
Just about a week ago it was reported they broke up. IIRC Theresa said she didnt know.
What if this is a trap and Ron is involved in it.
Mitsi is very happy. Seems to have gotten what she wants.
What if the church was in on it to refuse to marry them because Misti picked that one out. So they bring a fake minister or JP in to marry them.
Today LE come off mute and damned near say Misti is a liar.Last night they really kick in the pressure on her and she walks out.

Now they start really coming down and Ron is new hubby. She breaks down and tells him.

What ya think? Maybe I have a vivid imagination. I don't know.
I just got up from my nap ( love my naps) and was going to post something very similar. I am thinking something isn't as it appears here. Watching RC & MC interview and the things that has been going on this past week..The ring, proposal, marriage and RC keep sayings"I don't know I was at work." TN real quick with a reply to NC about how she believes Misty.. I too think something is up..

Vivid imagination..:shrug:..maybe maybe not

cloe23

03-13-2009, 02:46 PM

Maybe Chads finger prints will show up on the door that LE took.

KKKKKKatie

03-13-2009, 02:48 PM

I just got up from my nap ( love my naps) and was going to post something very similar. I am thinking something isn't as it appears here. Watching RC & MC interview and the things that has been going on this past week..The ring, proposal, marriage and RC keep sayings"I don't know I was at work." TN real quick with a reply to NC about how she believes Misty.. I too think something is up..

Vivid imagination..:shrug:..maybe maybe not

Could it be that LE is not involved in this scenario at all?

Ron has a suspicion about Misty and did this on his own to try to gain her trust so she will talk?

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 02:48 PM

Yes. Todays interview and LE press statement. Start there.

:thumbup:

Sly

~

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 02:49 PM

Finally! Someone mentions Chad Reynolds besides me! Where IS that boy? Do you think he must have met with foul play, too? There is NO new news on him.

I agree I think something happened to him foul play I thought that early on.

aproudmom

03-13-2009, 02:52 PM

well that just grossed me out, the fact that they have known each other for 4 years, which would make her 13 when they met and him 21? I don't think they met until fairly recently, when she actually was babysitting for his alledged other babymama, and encouraged him to get custody of that child. I cold be wrong......but I don't think I am. if I am, someone throw a cinderblock at me, willya?

From what I heard they met in Nov 08 not 4 yrs ago. I think she babysit for Amber at one time and that was how she met RC correct me if I am wrong.

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 02:52 PM

I agree I think something happened to him foul play I thought that early on.

I think so too. Wasn't a fight mentioned in a bar or something?

imo

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 02:54 PM

snip

I wish TES would return because seems LE has not checked and cleared all areas as they said they had. I wonder if the family has called him and begged him to come back.

snip

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#29674806

TES will not be back, they were asked to leave. LE does not want anyone except other LE sesrching. There are local members of TES and they were not invited to yesterdays search .

JMO

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 02:54 PM

Actually I read where they have known each other for 4 years. She must live in the same neighborhood. I also think they have been living together for 5 months. MOO no link.

Really? So she would be 12-13 and he would have been 21?

What on earth would they have had in common?

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 02:56 PM

Finally! Someone mentions Chad Reynolds besides me! Where IS that boy? Do you think he must have met with foul play, too? There is NO new news on him.

Last news on him was that his relatives think it is foul play...

JMO

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 02:57 PM

Could it be that LE is not involved in this scenario at all?

Ron has a suspicion about Misty and did this on his own to try to gain her trust so she will talk?

Ummmm.....

NO

Peaches

03-13-2009, 02:58 PM

It may be Ronald's excuse,think about what is going on in his head. I wish I had bought that Barbie she wanted last week, I wish I had let her have those little shoes she wanted, i am just saying maybe this is a real reason in his head. I said MOO. It would be natural thoughts IMO.
I don't need to make excuses for him, he is a grown man...None of my business if he got married in the nude or on the tail gate of his truck. His decision, he proposed, not Misty.

bam bam,

You are right on target here. It is very normal to have regrets.....no matter no good you were to the person that you have lost. And, at this moment HaLeigh is lost to Ron. He does not know where she is; if she is alive. If not, ????????????????????????

I can not figure out why Ron married Misty unless it was suggested to his mom by one of the PD personnel that she works with/for so that he would not be charged with all the charges mentioned on this bb in the past.

OR

She could be going to have a baby herself and those who have influence over Ron told him he needed to marry so that more rumors were not running rampant. MOO

:shrug:

KKKKKKatie

03-13-2009, 02:58 PM

Ummmm.....

NO

Why not???

Motomom

03-13-2009, 02:58 PM

I did not want you to think I thought he was the one lying. You see today was the first time I seen him doubt her word. Before he said he believe her. LOL.......no biggie Moto!

Back on page 12.. just got done doing SOME of my chores grrr.. I gotcha now LOL. ..

So far some really good points are being made.. Someone said maybe it clicked when he saw that news footage. YOu think it was the first time he saw that, where LE sounds like they are suspicious of her? Her inconsistent stories... Lots of good points so far and it's rather pleasant too :) course I'm only on page 12 right now lol. I think LE might not want to tell him their real concerns about Misty because I think he'll freak on her if he even THINKS shes a part of it.. ok off to read..we'll see how my opinion changes LOL

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 02:59 PM

the same thing they have in commone now? Babysitting and sex? Just guessing.....

Gag me with a cinder block.

barf

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 02:59 PM

Do you believe anyone in Ronald's family would cover up for Misty? I think they would get the information from her if she knew anything that would help find Haleigh.

No..no cover up..IMO..if anyone in Ronald's family knew anything I think LE would be told..I don't see them standing up for Misty/anyone that has knowledge of where Haleigh is.
Misty is the key to this.

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 03:00 PM

TES will not be back, they were asked to leave. LE does not want anyone except other LE sesrching. There are local members of TES and they were not invited to yesterdays search .

JMO

I don't understand that. TES could cover so much more ground.

Strange.

imo

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 03:02 PM

TES will not be back, they were asked to leave. LE does not want anyone except other LE sesrching. There are local members of TES and they were not invited to yesterdays search .

JMO
Why? weren't they invited? I never understood why Tim left so soon.

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 03:03 PM

Yep. ITA. I wonder if Misti knew him because I believe I read his gp live close by.

I'm wondering since misty went & slept where she wanted with no parents seemingly concerned where else did she stay & what did she do & who did she do it with before Ron??? and just maybe still while with Ron???

Sly

~

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 03:04 PM

Why not???

Ron marrying Misty to get her to trust him?

No way. If she didn't trust him before, a legally binding marriage isn't going to change that. If he trusted her, as he said, then he doesn't need to marry her.

No, Ron married Misty because of Crystal getting an attorney. IMO, but you can bank on it.

Nothing more, nothing less. He thinks it'll look good to CPS or the courts.

JMO

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 03:05 PM

Maybe neighbors?? That would be my guess.

Would that have been the same time that Ron and Crystal were together?

KKKKKKatie

03-13-2009, 03:14 PM

Ron marrying Misty to get her to trust him?

No way. If she didn't trust him before, a legally binding marriage isn't going to change that. If he trusted her, as he said, then he doesn't need to marry her.

No, Ron married Misty because of Crystal getting an attorney. IMO, but you can bank on it.

Nothing more, nothing less. He thinks it'll look good to CPS or the courts.

JMO

I agree about the custody thing but (trying to think like a 17 yr old lol) I still think the marriage (in Misty's eyes) would lead her to believe that Ron believes/trusts her. Could be part of why he married her. IMO

He is not a very good actor and that could explain his demeanor :shrug:

Just thinking out loud.....

bama__angel

03-13-2009, 03:16 PM

:laugh:

True. I coulda gone with the ol' Hair down my back, one eye situated nicely in the middle of my forehead, I drool, and a limp when I walk.

You are my ex arent you lol?

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 03:19 PM

Why? weren't they invited? I never understood why Tim left so soon.

He was told by local LE that he was not needed anymore, within days LE said they were not searching anymore except for tips, then yesterday over 100 searchers go out searching in an area that was not searched before that was not a tip. Something is hinky here.

JMO

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 03:19 PM

it's sad the LE won't let TES get involved :(

Yup, it's sad when LE don't do their job which is why Tim Miller turned his life around & became a hero.

Sly

~

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 03:22 PM

He was told by local LE that he was not needed anymore, within days LE said they were not searching anymore except for tips, then yesterday over 100 searchers go out searching in an area that was not searched before that was not a tip. Something is hinky here.

JMO

Sure is hinky.....

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 03:29 PM

bama__angel

03-13-2009, 03:30 PM

I thought he had three eyes? *jk* Don't laugh...I'll get in trouble.

It's good to laugh......And if someone wants to chastise me today, they gots to stand in line and take a nunber.........

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 03:30 PM

Yup, it's sad when LE don't do their job which is why Tim Miller turned his life around & became a hero.

Sly

~

I'm not ready to start knocking LE yet, we have no idea of what information they do have. LE did find Tim's daughter after a long time.

JMO

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 03:33 PM

Was it NG I heard they were looking for something throwed out of a car?

imo

It was mentioned somewhere, could have been JVM.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 03:34 PM

I'm not ready to start knocking LE yet, we have no idea of what information they do have. LE did find Tim's daughter after a long time.

JMO

Could be LE knows something very important and are making sure all the i's are dotted and all the t's are crossed and just waiting for one wrong move...

bama__angel

03-13-2009, 03:35 PM

Not really sure what a "nunber" is, but I'll take one anyway. :tongue:

Sorry.....number...........I can spell....I just cant type lol.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 03:40 PM

early on I thought LE knew alot more then they were saying. But if you look at things like repeated searches, checking the dumpster late, taking the screen door just the other day...those aren't signs that they are moving forward. ya know?

Taking the door is strange to me at such a late date...I still think they know something and are just waiting for the right moment..

cat3

03-13-2009, 03:41 PM

You said it not me!!

Boy Misty sure was all happy and smiles at the courthouse. Then you get her in front of someone w/ real question it is like putting a cat in a bag!! Odd!!

Mmmhmm.I've noticed that as well about Misty.You can tell as soon as the conversation turns to Haleigh,Misty's chin tilts up,and she gets an attitude.
I imagine that is why she had a problem with the last interview with LE.That was probably their goal to make her angry enough to spout out something,but it didn't work and she walked out.
I would like to know more about Misty's background,but since she is a minor,I don't think much is available about her.I also wonder as another poster wondered,where she went after her parent's kicked her out(if they did kick her out) before she started staying with Ron.IMO

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 03:41 PM

I'm not ready to start knocking LE yet, we have no idea of what information they do have. LE did find Tim's daughter after a long time.

JMO

Me neither as I don't really know what they're up to but I am ready to knock misty!!! After what I saw today & what little we do know.

Today is the most frightened I've been for HaLeigh & I wish LE would bring back the cadaver dogs.

Sly

~

cat3

03-13-2009, 03:58 PM

She seems to skate by in some ways because for instance her age, or when people get too caught up in the Ron/Crystal saga.

Well LE said it, she holds the truth. As far as inconsistent statements, the way I was raised, my daddy would call it lies.
mo

I agree.I think everyone is holding back due to her age.I've always thought that Misty either wasn't home that night,or knows more than what she is saying.

missinglink

03-13-2009, 03:59 PM

Are posts disappearing right before my eyes? :unsure:

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:00 PM

Are posts disappearing right before my eyes? :unsure:

Well, you are the missinglink..:biggrin:

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:01 PM

How can you be making jokes and laughing about evidence in a case where a child is most likely dead. Sick............. Disgusting..........You need to take your jokes to PM's.
Prayer's for Haleigh's safe return and strength to her family.

IA & looks like Coldwater had to clean up their mess. Thank you Coldwater.

After the tv show today I am totally focused on misty!!!

How do we find out more about her? Even if she is just a year to young to see any records what about her parents? What kind of people were they besides parents that did not make sure that their Child had at least a 12 grade education???

Tunnel vision here & misty is at the end of my tunnel.

Sly

~

missinglink

03-13-2009, 04:02 PM

Well, you are the missinglink..:biggrin:

LOL!

I really feel something big is about to go down too kitty (I think you're the one who said that). And I think it has to do with Misty. JMO.

Owlface

03-13-2009, 04:06 PM

Your sentence that I bolded is why I said she wasn't railroaded out of custody. She had the chance to testify and present evidence. During that testimony she admitted to using cocaine during the time she would have been pregnant with Junior and also admitted that she missed some of Haleigh's dr appt's because she didn't feel like getting out of bed to take her.

That is pretty damning testimony during a child custody hearing. And it came straight from her. The judge saw no reason to change his previous order because Crystal gave him no reason to change it. She proved herself unfit during that hearing.

The point that's being lost is once Ron had custody it was very difficult for him to lose it. Way different matter than having enough objective information for the judge to decide which parent should have custody.

missinglink

03-13-2009, 04:06 PM

Anyone know where Ron and Misty are going to live when they get back to Florida?

It would be the perfect opportunity to bug their place before they get off the plane. Does it take more than "inconsistant" statements to get a bug, etc?

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:09 PM

LOL!

I really feel something big is about to go down too kitty (I think you're the one who said that). And I think it has to do with Misty. JMO.

I do believe that......I don't think it will be long either.....

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:09 PM

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

Hi Search ...
LE made some interesting statements in this news story from today.
LE says that if they can resolve Ms Croslin's inconsistent stories - they should be able to solve this disappearence.
Also that they are focused on the time period of 7pm -> 3:27am.

**for some reason my link is not working --- I posted it in the "link thread" here though and it works there.**

Thanks for the link Sammy.

I am glad that LE is putting the pressure on Misty. She is the key and has been the key from day one. I've never believed for one minute that she just woke up to go to the bathroom. I've also never once believed that a stranger perp/SO would turn on the kitchen light!:scared:

Had Ron come in from work and found Haleigh gone himself then I think this story would be more believable but certainly not as it stands currently. JMO

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:13 PM

I agree.I think everyone is holding back due to her age.I've always thought that Misty either wasn't home that night,or knows more than what she is saying.

I dont understand why they would hold back. Ive seen snippets of video where children get interrogated, and the few minutes that I see blow me away. So I dont' understand why they would be using kid gloves with her (if that is what they are doing)

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:14 PM

The link to the Today show interview can be found on page 3, I believe.

I had the opportunity to view a bit of the interview from this morning. Misty looks like she is all of about 14 or 15 years old. :scared:
I know a lot of girls at 17 look young for their age but between her physical appearance and her immaturity, she just looks like a kid. :crying:

WTH is Misty's mom thinking? I don't get it. WTH is Ronald Cummings thinking or his mother, Teresa Neves? I don't get it. Why wouldn't full grown adults in this family try to talk some sense into Ronald. Geesh.
Shocking to say the least for me.
JMO

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:15 PM

Are posts disappearing right before my eyes? :unsure:

I think so. There were 18 pages, now 15 and I see at least one new name in band camp.

I wish we would get some REAL news today about Haleigh. I was hoping that Ron and Misti would return home today, so I would feel better about that fiasco but I suppose no such luck.

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:17 PM

Wow I tried to post then it dissappeared as I was typing...MISSING LINK!!!!
Nah lol don't know what happened but anyway I agree with you L&L!
I don't believe her "other" story about getting a drink of water neither.

:laugh:Must have been a glitch in the server or something. I got a page that said I had hit an invalid link :scared:. That skeered me!

hahahaha technology.

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:17 PM

IA & looks like Coldwater had to clean up their mess. Thank you Coldwater.

After the tv show today I am totally focused on misty!!!

How do we find out more about her? Even if she is just a year to young to see any records what about her parents? What kind of people were they besides parents that did not make sure that their Child had at least a 12 grade education???

Tunnel vision here & misty is at the end of my tunnel.

Sly

~

You know, now that you have mentioned it.. has anyone looked to see what has gone on with her parents? I dont' recall? Everyone else seems to have SOMETHING.. what about them. May at least give us a bit more insight into her?

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:20 PM

LOL!

I really feel something big is about to go down too kitty (I think you're the one who said that). And I think it has to do with Misty. JMO.

Well with everyone thinking that its giving me some anxiety LOL Just waiting and waiting. I wonder if Ron did realize for the first time today, about the inconsistencies... wonder what hes thinking today.

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:21 PM

Right on Sister Sly!! LOL!!:smile:

I always hate knocking LE and it takes quit a bit for me to do so. It makes the case much less interesting and depressing! Because we want justice and need a hero. Human nature......unless you are a criminal I guess.
I sure hope his family was watching closely to that show. Maybe the tide will turn amongst them now that Ron and Misty are away. They are faced w/ 2 facts Ron as been all but cleared, Misty not so much!! Perhaps the tide would turn.

Yup, I have known so many really good cops & only a few bad ones.

Yup, I also hope the family not only saw this but taped it & replayed it over & over.

Many of us said yesterday that they should of had counseling before getting married.

I don't think misty was/is to young to babysit, dang I started watching others Children when I was 11 or 12. I had a live in sitting job the Summer I was 14 for a professional woman.

I wanna know where misty was staying before she started staying at Ron's.

Just maybe she set her mind on him because she was homeless.
Just maybe she was as jealous about HaLeigh as she was amber.

Sly

~

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:26 PM

And the family back home!!

Do you remember when Misty will turn 18? I can't remember her b'day..

Politigal

03-13-2009, 04:26 PM

I've read several forums about Misty's extended family, but don't think I've really seen anything before today on "Destiney Croslin."

I thought brother Hank was married to Lindsy and Timothy was married to Chelsea.

So who the heck is Destiney?

and looking at google maps...Daytona Beach is only approx 58 miles from Satsuma...about 1 hr away.

http://tinyurl.com/bk5wug

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:27 PM

:smile:
I think I am the newbie. I have been reading the threads for a while though does that count?
Hi to everyone. :)

What bothers me the most right now is the way Ron uses his "I was a work" comment entirely to much. We already know he claims he was at work. Le confirms he was "spotted" at work so why the repetativity and nothing else? He has no other thoughts? Even if he were at work the entire time it seems to me he would have more interest in talking about the facts that he does know thus far and at least "TRY" to help come to some kind of conclusion there at that point where questions are being asked. All we keep getting is "I was at work."
As for Misty man I'd love to see her being interrogated.
Her "I don't know" answer just isn't working for me.

That is what my five and seven year old say when I ask them where the candy bars that are missing from the fridge are..."Uh I don't know" as they look down and to the left.

Sheesh!
I hope that LE meets Ron and Misty at the airport.
That's all I'm saying.

Hi and Welcome...I hope LE meets them there too....

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:27 PM

Well with everyone thinking that its giving me some anxiety LOL Just waiting and waiting. I wonder if Ron did realize for the first time today, about the inconsistencies... wonder what hes thinking today.

I was thinking about "gut instinct". How could so many people be wrong on that "gut instinct" regarding Misty? If you go read through some of the other boards, the theme always comes back to Misty being the key.
Even if you read blogs on the media links, you get the same train of thought on "Misty". At 17 y/o, I would think her memory would have been sharp as a tack on the events leading up to finding Haleigh gone.

JMO

Breazy

03-13-2009, 04:28 PM

I posted this on the "Bad Time to Get Married!" thread and thought I'd bring it here also . . .

OK, I'm going to go against the grain here . . .

Up until I saw the video of the Today show interview, I did not suspect Ron nor Misty of being responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. However, a really bad feeling has overtaken me upon watching. I now believe that Ron himself is responsible and Misty is covering for him. He just did not look like a man in love that couldn't wait to marry. As they were saying their vows, they didn't even look at one another. Ron is just standing there looking like he couldn't wait to get out of there, no love in his eyes whatsoever. Misty looks enamored by Ron and like she would do anything in this world for him. Ron just looks so put out about the whole Misty thing, no affection or reassurance shown to her at all. Even sitting on the couch at the Today show, he never gave her a reassuring look or even reached over to take her hand. C'mon, that is NOT a man in love. I know I'll probably get bashed by many but felt compelled to post my thoughts. I haven't posted here since the beginning of this case, but have been following along.

Beth Englema

03-13-2009, 04:30 PM

The way he sat there with his arms folded was very telling, and the way see looked at him as asking for guidance..JMO
Do you think that Ron married Misty thinking that she is the key to what happened to Haleigh and the link to where she is and the only way of finding out is to keep at her until she cracks?

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:30 PM

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Thank you for the info. ;) Helps to know.

cat3

03-13-2009, 04:32 PM

I dont understand why they would hold back. Ive seen snippets of video where children get interrogated, and the few minutes that I see blow me away. So I dont' understand why they would be using kid gloves with her (if that is what they are doing)

Not just LE holding back,but everyone in general.No one wants to accuse a young girl that may be totally innocent of a crime.I know I sure don't like thinking she is guilty,but I can't help but think she might be.IMO
Her guilt could be as small as knowing more than she is saying,to actually having done something to Haleigh.It could be she is covering for Ron,although I don't think he had anything to do with Haleigh being missing,but it is possible.
LE could have used the 'we're all buddies' type of questioning in the beginning,and then tried a tougher method on Wednesday just to see if they could get more information from her.
To be fair Misty could be innocent and it could be that she is telling the truth,but I don't trust her,and haven't from the start.IMO

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 04:32 PM

In your opinion Mr. Lucky, why did LE just now remove the outer side door to this trailer. That one has me puzzled.

Because in addition to carrying a cinder block on his belt, Joe the Cousin also replaces doors with one that is more easily propped?

:shrug:

(Trying to think like Misty here.....)

RoxyWest

03-13-2009, 04:32 PM

I posted this on the "Bad Time to Get Married!" thread and thought I'd bring it here also . . .

Breazy, I can't help thinking that Misty has something on Ron, because I agree, I've never seen an unhappier looking groom. Just really can't wrap my head around him harming Haleigh though. But somethings definitely not right between the two of them. IMO

Leather&Lace

03-13-2009, 04:33 PM

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:33 PM

And the family back home!!

I wonder if their hinky meter is going off. You know, when I watch the part about the wedding and when Ron is saying that he wants the focus to be on Haleigh.. I get a distinct impression from Mistis..that shes ..you know, not so much wishing for that. Maybe disappointment that her wedding wasnt' being discussed? I hate when everyone looks too deeping into things, and adds meanign when there is none..which is what I am doing right about now LOL. I just cant put into words the feeling I got with her today. I kind of feel bad because if she did have some involvment, she had NO idea IMO, what she was really getting herself into. If shes involved, i dont think she will be able to hold out much longer. If she is involved, do you think she'd go to her mother and tell and if so..what would mommy do?

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 04:34 PM

Do you remember when Misty will turn 18? I can't remember her b'day..

December 8th, I believe.

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:35 PM

You know, now that you have mentioned it.. has anyone looked to see what has gone on with her parents? I dont' recall? Everyone else seems to have SOMETHING.. what about them. May at least give us a bit more insight into her?

I'll start a genealogy chart if anyone can come up with the names.
So far I have only heard her brother's names Tommy & Timmy IIRC.

Sly

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kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:35 PM

No but IIRC.....she is barely 17......I could be wrong!

I found it..Her b'day is 12/09/1991

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 04:36 PM

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:36 PM

I disagree. Crystal made a bunch of claims in her filings. If she had been able to prove any of them she would have gotten custody. Instead she admitted she was an unfit parent who couldn't be bothered to get out of bed and take her child to the dr and IMO that is why Ron kept custody.

Yup EXACTLY!!! It's all in black & white court papers.

Sly

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catdoc

03-13-2009, 04:37 PM

I think so. There were 18 pages, now 15 and I see at least one new name in band camp.

I wish we would get some REAL news today about Haleigh. I was hoping that Ron and Misti would return home today, so I would feel better about that fiasco but I suppose no such luck.

Motomom, do u have a link to that groups thread that shows band camp. I've seen it before but can't find it now.

Politigal

03-13-2009, 04:37 PM

From the address, I highly doubt that this is a relative...

JMO

No, it's definitely relatives...and Misty's driver's license per publicdata.com is at a different address (that also shows Destiney there..)

crymeariver2006

03-13-2009, 04:38 PM

From the address, I highly doubt that this is a relative...

JMO

Misty, Hank, and Destiney all have the same address.

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 04:38 PM

Do you think that Ron married Misty thinking that she is the key to what happened to Haleigh and the link to where she is and the only way of finding out is to keep at her until she cracks?

I don't think so..

JMO

Hopeintown

03-13-2009, 04:38 PM

I do believe that......I don't think it will be long either.....

I hope something happens soon. After watching the Today interview I was stunned, not by the fact that Ron and Misti are now married (which is odd enough in itself), but by Misti's answers to the questions Merideth asked her. All this time I was under the impression there had been some sort of mix up with the details of what was originally said about where Haleigh was sleeping. But no, Misti gave different accounts and when asked why she did this her answer was "I don't know". Wow, that means when they both sat in an interview on Greta and she asked Misti where Haleigh was sleeping and she demonstrated with her hands that Haleigh was less than a foot away, then Ron intervened and said "No, it was more like this" and then he goes on to correct Misti and then Misti tells Greta Haleigh was in a seperate bed altogether. Hmm, someone is sure lying here.

And I know some people on here are giving Ron the benifit of the doubt in believing he knows nothing, but I don't buy it. The whole "I don't know, I was at work" is sounding a bit over used, because he says it ALL the time.....for some reason.

Beth Englema

03-13-2009, 04:41 PM

I don't think so..

JMOWant to say why?

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:42 PM

Well with everyone thinking that its giving me some anxiety LOL Just waiting and waiting. I wonder if Ron did realize for the first time today, about the inconsistencies... wonder what hes thinking today.

I'm thinking YES, & I'm glad about this trip because I think it opened his eyes. With all that's been going on & what reveria? did to him, all the family members around & misty... maybe he has not even watched the news until this trip.

Sly

annalyzer

03-13-2009, 04:43 PM

I hope something happens soon. After watching the Today interview I was stunned, not by the fact that Ron and Misti are now married (which is odd enough in itself), but by Misti's answers to the questions Merideth asked her. All this time I was under the impression there had been some sort of mix up with the details of what was originally said about where Haleigh was sleeping. But no, Misti gave different accounts and when asked why she did this her answer was "I don't know". Wow, that means when they both sat in an interview on Greta and she asked Misti where Haleigh was sleeping and she demonstrated with her hands that Haleigh was less than a foot away, then Ron intervened and said "No, it was more like this" and then he goes on to correct Misti and then Misti tells Greta Haleigh was in a seperate bed altogether. Hmm, someone is sure lying here.

And I know some people on here are giving Ron the benifit of the doubt in believing he knows nothing, but I don't buy it. The whole "I don't know, I was at work" is sounding a bit over used, because he says it ALL the time.....for some reason.

Yeah, that's what I thought, that the media was getting the stories mixed up when all along they were just reporting what they were told!
I just don't think Ron looks or sounds sincere when he "pleads" for his daughter to the media. :unsure:

annalyzer

03-13-2009, 04:44 PM

Want to say why?

He didn't have to marry her to keep her around.

playnice

03-13-2009, 04:48 PM

Good cop.......Bad cop!!
She certainly got the bad one on the eve of her wedding!
Then they come out and practically clear Ron and do just the opposite w/ Misty!!......not for a good honeymoon that makes!!!:smile: KWIM!
LE has their ways & I would not doubt the FBI is calling the shot in that area.

After all this time LE finally say something. I think they do have some information and now the pressure is on. I bet they will call her back in when they get home.

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 04:49 PM

Misty, Hank, and Destiney all have the same address.

Mr Lucky admits he was wrong, looked at the address too fast and thought it was a different area of town..

oxfordfox

03-13-2009, 04:50 PM

I keep turning this thing over and over in my mind. a couple things come to me. At first I thought Ron's reaction to hearing that his daughter was missing was off and I still do. I'm paraphrasing here but he immediately vowed to kill "them" even if he spent the rest of his life in jail for it. I thought a more common reaction would be to say:" quick, search the house, the yard, the woods etc. The door is open she must have wandered out, etc. etc." but then later as I was thinking about it I remember something he said that I think he wouldn't have said if he had been guilty of something that Misty was helping him "cover" for. he said something to the effect of "Bit**, why the f%** did YOU let my daughter get stole?" Now it seems to me that he would have to know that making a remark like that might cause a 17 year old to say somthing defensive like:" ME? YOU were the one who did xxxxx" If she were covering for him, that would have been a really incendiary remark to make. It would have incensed me in the same circumstances. Another thing that makes me think there is something really odd in his behavior at the wedding is that he didn't even show the respect of wearing a suit. Is that the way he would have dressed if the wedding had been in the church? It says something to me either about his feelings about the "wedding" or his personality and the message is not good. Is is possible that he married Misty to get out of a possible statuatory rape charge or to look more respectable in an upcoming custody case. He's married, I don't think Crystal is. That might count for something in a custody case. Is it possible that Haleigh saw Misty do something that night and threatened to tattle to her father when he returned home? It's not a stretch to imagine that a 17 year old might see a 5 year old as a tattletale who was going to get her in trouble with "Daddy". Maybe she decided that she needed to silence the tattletale for once and for all. Just some nagging thoughts I'm having.

Beth Englema

03-13-2009, 04:51 PM

Good cop.......Bad cop!!
She certainly got the bad one on the eve of her wedding!
Then they come out and practically clear Ron and do just the opposite w/ Misty!!......not for a good honeymoon that makes!!!:smile: KWIM!
LE has their ways & I would not doubt the FBI is calling the shot in that area. If I were innocent of something I was accused of, I would spend as long as it takes to clear my name. You couldn't MAKE me keep quiet, I would tell the world about it. If I were on TV, they would have to gag me to keep me quiet.

That is why I find Misty's behavior so strange..... this missed opportunity to explain what happened that night.

MrLucky917B

03-13-2009, 04:52 PM

Want to say why?

Too many possibilities, I'm really not leaning towards one

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 04:52 PM

After all this time LE finally say something. I think they do have some information and now the pressure is on. I bet they will call her back in when they get home.
When are they arriving back?

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 04:53 PM

Was afraid I was way off.....Thats young Kitty!!
She's not even 17 1/2..:wink:

Breazy

03-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Breazy, I can't help thinking that Misty has something on Ron, because I agree, I've never seen an unhappier looking groom. Just really can't wrap my head around him harming Haleigh though. But somethings definitely not right between the two of them. IMO

Possibly Ron harmed Haleigh accidentally as the result of anger or drugs. It's even a possibility that Haleigh got into some of Ron's drugs and accidentally overdosed. I just don't think Misty is responsible but rather the demeanor she is portraying is caused by her covering for Ron. I think her fear of Ron would have way more control over her than her desire to go out or even anger at Haleigh that went too far.

playnice

03-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Hopeintown

03-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Yeah, that's what I thought, that the media was getting the stories mixed up when all along they were just reporting what they were told!
I just don't think Ron looks or sounds sincere when he "pleads" for his daughter to the media. :unsure:

It sure suprised me. And then when Merideth asked her "why did you give different storis" (or something like that), her answer is "I don't know", WHAT? Haleigh goes missing and she gave different accounts as to where Haleigh was sleeping that night? why? and then just says "I don't know" when asked why she did this. There is a reason she did it, because she knows something and had to change her original story that Haleigh was sleeping in the same bed because something happened that night, that she KNOWS and she had to make a more believeable story that Haleigh was in a different bed.

As for Ron, he is not sincere to me either. I can't put my finger on it, but as I said the "I was at work" over and over is sounding more odd all the time.

FoxySly

03-13-2009, 04:55 PM

I always go back to Misty!!

Well she was the last known person to be seen with her & I am sure that LE would be working to clear her just as hard as they would her bio parents.

Statistics show that it is usually a close family member.

I was so hoping it was crystal & team/family... better chance for her to be alive.

If it's a SO she suffered terrible & is most likely dead.

If a jealous misty ugg.

Sly

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PBJMOM4

03-13-2009, 04:56 PM

Is LE still searching in Florida? Has there been any news from down there today? While all the news has been on Ron and Misty's Today Show appearance, was Crystal and her family out looking anyone know?

playnice

03-13-2009, 04:56 PM

Possibly Ron harmed Haleigh accidentally as the result of anger or drugs. It's even a possibility that Haleigh got into some of Ron's drugs and accidentally overdosed. I just don't think Misty is responsible but rather the demeanor she is portraying is caused by her covering for Ron. I think her fear of Ron would have way more control over her than her desire to go out or even anger at Haleigh that went too far.

I dont think she is afraid of him. she didnt have to marry him. she could have told her mom she was scared and not to sign those papers. Misti is the only one looking happy about this marriage.

Motomom

03-13-2009, 04:56 PM

I hope something happens soon. After watching the Today interview I was stunned, not by the fact that Ron and Misti are now married (which is odd enough in itself), but by Misti's answers to the questions Merideth asked her. All this time I was under the impression there had been some sort of mix up with the details of what was originally said about where Haleigh was sleeping. But no, Misti gave different accounts and when asked why she did this her answer was "I don't know". Wow, that means when they both sat in an interview on Greta and she asked Misti where Haleigh was sleeping and she demonstrated with her hands that Haleigh was less than a foot away, then Ron intervened and said "No, it was more like this" and then he goes on to correct Misti and then Misti tells Greta Haleigh was in a seperate bed altogether. Hmm, someone is sure lying here.

And I know some people on here are giving Ron the benifit of the doubt in believing he knows nothing, but I don't buy it. The whole "I don't know, I was at work" is sounding a bit over used, because he says it ALL the time.....for some reason.

I dont think Ron does know what happened, because I do think he was at work so I'm glad that his story isn't changing in that regard.

You mentioned about Misti saying " I dont know" in regards to why her stories changed, she even had to think a few seconds for that response. Why not say something like.. With everything happening, I got confused.. Could be believable at that point IMO..but now.. not so much.

playnice

03-13-2009, 04:57 PM

Well she was the last known person to be seen with her & I am sure that LE would be working to clear her just as hard as they would her bio parents.

Statistics show that it is usually a close family member.

I was so hoping it was crystal & team/family... better chance for her to be alive.

If it's a SO she suffered terrible & is most likely dead.

If a jealous misty ugg.

Sly

~

I dont think Misti hurt her. I think she had someone there that she couldnt tell Ron about or she just wasnt there at all.

Hopeintown

03-13-2009, 04:58 PM

Possibly Ron harmed Haleigh accidentally as the result of anger or drugs. It's even a possibility that Haleigh got into some of Ron's drugs and accidentally overdosed. I just don't think Misty is responsible but rather the demeanor she is portraying is caused by her covering for Ron. I think her fear of Ron would have way more control over her than her desire to go out or even anger at Haleigh that went too far.

I'm not really up on the timeline, but does anyone know when the last time Haleigh was seen alive by anyone other than Misti, and what time Ron started his shift at work?

Squeekie

03-13-2009, 04:58 PM

SwFlorida

03-13-2009, 04:59 PM

I dont think Ron does know what happened, because I do think he was at work so I'm glad that his story isn't changing in that regard.

You mentioned about Misti saying " I dont know" in regards to why her stories changed, she even had to think a few seconds for that response. Why not say something like.. With everything happening, I got confused.. Could be believable at that point IMO..but now.. not so much.

That is what I kept waiting for her to say. Spit it out girl!! She couldn't..Just shrugged it off..

sammy

03-13-2009, 04:59 PM

I'll start a genealogy chart if anyone can come up with the names.
So far I have only heard her brother's names Tommy & Timmy IIRC.

Sly

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I hope it alright to link this.
There is quite a long list of relatives from all sides of the family's.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0

playnice

03-13-2009, 04:59 PM

I dont think Ron does know what happened, because I do think he was at work so I'm glad that his story isn't changing in that regard.

You mentioned about Misti saying " I dont know" in regards to why her stories changed, she even had to think a few seconds for that response. Why not say something like.. With everything happening, I got confused.. Could be believable at that point IMO..but now.. not so much.

She looked at Ron to get his reaction and said "I dont know." I think she knew at that moment she has some explaining to do. I think she was caught completely off guard with that question of Why.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 04:59 PM

Motomom, do u have a link to that groups thread that shows band camp. I've seen it before but can't find it now.

pm check.............

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 05:00 PM

She looked at Ron to get his reaction and said "I dont know." I think she knew at that moment she has some explaining to do. I think she was caught completely off guard with that question of Why.

I think so too......

cat3

03-13-2009, 05:01 PM

Good cop.......Bad cop!!
She certainly got the bad one on the eve of her wedding!
Then they come out and practically clear Ron and do just the opposite w/ Misty!!......not for a good honeymoon that makes!!!:smile: KWIM!
LE has their ways & I would not doubt the FBI is calling the shot in that area.

Ron is either very smart or a da## fool.Wish I could figure out which one he is.I don't think they married for love.lol Misty looks scared in the Today show interview and Ron looks unhappy as he## since he married Misty.IMO

playnice

03-13-2009, 05:01 PM

I can't make sense out of the aloof interactions between Ron & Misty. It makes you wonder if the marriage is just a sham, Misty doesn't know it and Ron is working with the cops. I know that's reaching, but it's all so bizarre.

JMO

He has NOT looked like a groom to be and happy hubby since the moment they showed him walking ahead of her looking angry at the courthouse.

kitty1182

03-13-2009, 05:02 PM

He has NOT looked like a groom to be and happy hubby since the moment they showed him walking ahead of her looking angry at the courthouse.

I agree...........

5boxersmom

03-13-2009, 05:05 PM

What airport would Ron and Misti fly in to?

I wonder if they are coming home today or spending the weekend in NY? No other shows would probably be doing interviews with them with it being the weekend. Unless they are on NG or Greta tonight. Is NG is NY? LKL is in LA? Right? I don't think they would be doing the Geraldo show this weekend.:biggrin:

missinglink

03-13-2009, 05:05 PM