Thursday March 12th - Hope for Haleigh

[beachpatty]

Here's a thread to start today, I imagine it will be a busy day, I believe the wedding is today.:thumbdown:


Continued Hope for Haleigh :wub:
Beachpatty

[beachpatty]

With it being a big day, I hope everyone can remain calm and cool to ensure this board doesn't close down. Remember, manners count!:smile:



Good reminder, yesterday got a bit hairy for awhile:ohmy: I would hate for us to be on "lock down" with the scheduled event today.

I can't wrap my mind around how the thought of any "joy" can even cross the minds of these folks?? Elizabeth Smart is living proof of miracles, my hope is that Heleigh will be the next "miracle".

Beachpatty

[n/t]

Good Morning,

Everyday I awaken to news about this family but nothing new about Haleigh.

Dad getting married and mom lawyered up.

Where's Haleigh?:sad:

[MoonFlwr]

Here's a thread to start today, I imagine it will be a busy day, I believe the wedding is today.:thumbdown:


Continued Hope for Haleigh
Beachpatty

BeachieWeach! :) *HUG*

Thanks for the new thread.

Yes, isn't it ....bizarre....I think, might be the word I am looking for.:confused:

And, I agree with you 51viking...about people remaining calm!

[n/t]

I don't know but boy the internet is buzzing. On one message board, someone asked if Ron and Misty were registered at the Dollar Store, it's bad out there so I hope people are prepped today as it's usually not so bad here, but step outside of InSession and you're sure to hear/read a lot of hate about what's shaking down today.

moo

This is an article in Jacksonville News. Reading the comments, I agree that people are very critical of this wedding. Why the rush? I haven't heard one decent reason on any of the talk shows as to why they need to get married now when their focus should be on finding Haleigh.

Interesting, however, that there was nothing I could find about Crystal lawyering up except for Nancy Grace transcripts. Nancy really caught the lawyer off guard last night....with this comment...Ouch!

GRACE: Why do you speak of Haleigh -- why do you speak of Haleigh in the past tense? I notice that you said Haleigh was a child with a lot of physical problems.

PICAZIO: Because she doesn`t have those physical problems anymore.


Both links below:


http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-03-11/story/haleighs_dad_girlfriend_set_for_thursday_wedding

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ng.01.html

[beachpatty]

BeachieWeach! :) *HUG*

Thanks for the new thread.

Yes, isn't it ....bizarre....I think, might be the word I am looking for.:confused:

And, I agree with you 51viking...about people remaining calm!


Hey Moonie,
I knew I'd find you here eventually :smile:

I know this all way too weird, I wonder what the undercurrent gossip is saying there locally? You can bet it's buzzin!

Hope all is well w/you!
Beachie

[crymeariver2006]

This is an article in Jacksonville News. Reading the comments, I agree that people are very critical of this wedding. Why the rush? I haven't heard one decent reason on any of the talk shows as to why they need to get married now when their focus should be on finding Haleigh.

Interesting, however, that there was nothing I could find about Crystal lawyering up except for Nancy Grace transcripts. Nancy really caught the lawyer off guard last night....with this comment...Ouch!

GRACE: Why do you speak of Haleigh -- why do you speak of Haleigh in the past tense? I notice that you said Haleigh was a child with a lot of physical problems.

PICAZIO: Because she doesn`t have those physical problems anymore.


Both links below:


http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-03-11/story/haleighs_dad_girlfriend_set_for_thursday_wedding

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ng.01.html

*bolded mine

You know, I took that statement by the attorney as Crystal doesn't have much hope that Haleigh is even still alive.

:sad:

But that's just me.

[n/t]

*bolded mine

You know, I took that statement by the attorney as Crystal doesn't have much hope that Haleigh is even still alive.

:sad:

But that's just me.

I agree.

I have a feeling that they've all come to that conclusion and sadly that's why we don't see any active searching on their part. No private searches but that could change if we believe Crystal's new attorney. She's supposedly looking at doing independent searches.

We'll see. Someone needs to be looking for this little girl. Dead or alive. :sad:

[Texas48]

Here's a thread to start today, I imagine it will be a busy day, I believe the wedding is today.:thumbdown:


Continued Hope for Haleigh :wub:
BeachpattyGood morning patty and as always Thank You for the morning thread. Always good to get up and see you have everything READY for the day for the rest of us. Mornings are always alittle bit slower which is good for me. I have a hard time keeping up later at night. Just getting older and hands and fingers are not what they used to be.lol..Yes..seems TODAY is the big day. I so hope we can all stay OUT of trouble. I posted 3 days ago that this case needed some JUICE as the case seemed to be going slow but gosh..I never would have dreamed there would have been a Wedding Announcement the very next day in a Missing Child Case. Sure did BUMP of the "interest" of the case....I thought for sure we would get shut down yesterday..:scared:as it was crazy here. I tried several times to get minds back on case and it just did not work.lol..lol..Hated to see my friends get banned..for that matter was afraid I was going to get banned as well.lol..So here we are today..still searching for a CHILD LOST...and going to see a wedding take place. Lets have a good day.

[Motomom]

GOOD MORNING!!

Hope today will be pleasant, but with the "wedding" going on today I doubt it.

I don't think Ron had anything to do with Haleigh missing, however this wedding thing isn't sitting well with me either. Very hard, if at all possible to justify this decision. I'm hoping that something will happen before this wedding takes place (not sure what time it is happening) Hope Ron comes to his senses or something.

[Texas48]

With it being a big day, I hope everyone can remain calm and cool to ensure this board doesn't close down. Remember, manners count!:smile:Good morning to you..Got to get ready and all for the Wedding. lol..

[Peaches]

Good morning patty and as always Thank You for the morning thread. Always good to get up and see you have everything READY for the day for the rest of us. Mornings are always alittle bit slower which is good for me. I have a hard time keeping up later at night. Just getting older and hands and fingers are not what they used to be.lol..Yes..seems TODAY is the big day. I so hope we can all stay OUT of trouble. I posted 3 days ago that this case needed some JUICE as the case seemed to be going slow but gosh..I never would have dreamed there would have been a Wedding Announcement the very next day in a Missing Child Case. Sure did BUMP of the "interest" of the case....I thought for sure we would get shut down yesterday..:scared:as it was crazy here. I tried several times to get minds back on case and it just did not work.lol..lol..Hated to see my friends get banned..for that matter was afraid I was going to get banned as well.lol..So here we are today..still searching for a CHILD LOST...and going to see a wedding take place. Lets have a good day.


Does anyone know what time the wedding will be today?

BTW...............I saw nothing different on this web yesterday. Same old things.................moo

[Motomom]

I agree.

I have a feeling that they've all come to that conclusion and sadly that's why we don't see any active searching on their part. No private searches but that could change if we believe Crystal's new attorney. She's supposedly looking at doing independent searches.

We'll see. Someone needs to be looking for this little girl. Dead or alive. :sad:

I don't understand why they are not searching in smaller groups already. How long did they search that body of water, where the dogs led up to anyone know? I've been saying that I think she is alive this whole time, but part of me thinks that water needs to be rechecked again. IF something did happen to her at that home, or in that general area I don't know why they aren't finding her. I would think her remains would be close.

[Texas48]

I don't know but boy the internet is buzzing. On one message board, someone asked if Ron and Misty were registered at the Dollar Store, it's bad out there so I hope people are prepped today as it's usually not so bad here, but step outside of InSession and you're sure to hear/read a lot of hate about what's shaking down today.

mooYou are so right about the "talk" going on everywhere. Would be great if LE received the TIP that finds Haleigh and brings her home today..safe and sound. I wounder if that would put a crimp in the wedding plans? Or......if there was an arrest made today...Now that might put a crimp.

[Texas48]

*bolded mine

You know, I took that statement by the attorney as Crystal doesn't have much hope that Haleigh is even still alive.

:sad:

But that's just me.Wasn't just you my friend. Had the same thoughts. Even NG is acting ..umm...strange? about this case. Can't put my finger on what the problem is but there is something not right w/her (NG) covering this story. Time will tell..

[Motomom]

Did they search the other side of the river?

I have no idea Bass. I think they should go back in there though. Anyone remember earlier that there were items supposedly found? I thought there were items the sheffield family had come across but I could be wrong in thinkin it was them. I'm wondering what it was that was found and I think LE ruled it out. I dont' remember seeing a link for it though, so maybe it was just rumor/gossip. Also curious as to what was missing that was very important.

[iluvspring]

I haven't heard anyone mention that an alligator could have gotten her. If she wandered off, which is unlikely, could that have happened? Or if someone killed her could they have dumped her in the river and then an alligator got her? If that were the case I suppose there would never be any evidence. This has bothered me right from the start - especially when they mentioned seeing a footprint near the water.

[Motomom]

Wasn't just you my friend. Had the same thoughts. Even NG is acting ..umm...strange? about this case. Can't put my finger on what the problem is but there is something not right w/her (NG) covering this story. Time will tell..

A few people have said the same Texas.. She seems angry IMO.

[Motomom]

I haven't heard anyone mention that an alligator could have gotten her. If she wandered off, which is unlikely, could that have happened? Or if someone killed her could they have dumped her in the river and then an alligator got her? If that were the case I suppose there would never be any evidence. This has bothered me right from the start - especially when they mentioned seeing a footprint near the water.

I'm not sure where the footpring was found spring.. but the water does bother me as well. wonder how far from the house the footprint was found. If someone snatched her from her bed, why didn't they carry her the whole time? (if the print is her)

[iluvspring]

Her approach to this case does seem very odd. It's almost as though she has some inside info that makes her unwilling to get too involved in this case, at this time. We all know how she zeroes in on people especially if she has the slightest instinct that they could be the perp. This has also struck me as highly unusual for her. I have tuned in every night and couldn't believe that she wasn't covering this story every single night. Not like her. Something is going on behind the scenes that is keeping her at arm's length.

[beachpatty]

I don't understand why they are not searching in smaller groups already. How long did they search that body of water, where the dogs led up to anyone know? I've been saying that I think she is alive this whole time, but part of me thinks that water needs to be rechecked again. IF something did happen to her at that home, or in that general area I don't know why they aren't finding her. I would think her remains would be close.


IF this were my child/grandchild, I would be personally out, with anyone I could drag with me, going over every inch of all those wooded areas. Look how close Caylee was! I would be bug bitten, scraped up for the brush and thorns, but I would still be out there from the very crak of dawn till I could no longer see at dark, the full moon this week really lit up the woods behind us, I sat out back, smoking, and trying to imagine, searching. I would not be able to just sit still and worry, and I certainly would not be getting married :mad:

I wonder if the wedding attire includes the t shirts with Haleigh's picture? I would imagine that is a subject that is not covered in any brides magazines or anywhere else, for that matter, this whole thing is so far from normal. Weddings (birhdays, etc) are supposed to be joyus occasions, making memories to last a lifetime. How can anyone rationally plan an event that is clouded in sorrow?

MOO
Beachpatty

[Texas48]

I agree.

I have a feeling that they've all come to that conclusion and sadly that's why we don't see any active searching on their part. No private searches but that could change if we believe Crystal's new attorney. She's supposedly looking at doing independent searches.

We'll see. Someone needs to be looking for this little girl. Dead or alive. :sad:
You are so right n/t..Just because they believe there is not much hope to find Haleigh is NO reason NOT to search. This is a child we are talking about..NEVER to be forgotten. I'm not sure I have ever seen an investigation go this way. I know all cases are different and all LE handles their investigations is their own way and In NO way am I putting down this LE. This case is....what is the word I'm looking for? :confused:

[crymeariver2006]

A few people have said the same Texas.. She seems angry IMO.

NG's just being NG. As bad as I thought her comments to Renee Rockwell were about her late husband (a couple of months ago), last night's remarks to Daniel Horowitz were just as bad. I'm no Horowitz fan, HOWEVER, when she started shrieking about people living in mobile homes, being poor, blah blah.....am I the only one that remembered Daniel's wife was killed in the doublewide that was set up while they were building their house?

Nobody thinks that someone should lose custody because of living in a mobile home.

JMO

[WillowInFlight]

I don't know but boy the internet is buzzing. On one message board, someone asked if Ron and Misty were registered at the Dollar Store, it's bad out there so I hope people are prepped today as it's usually not so bad here, but step outside of InSession and you're sure to hear/read a lot of hate about what's shaking down today.

moo
OMG I just heard they are getting married today. TODAY!!! why the rush?, This should be one of the most important, memorable days in her life. You do't need a whole lot of money to pull off a beautiful wedding, I did it 30 years ago. now I feel old

[Texas48]

GOOD MORNING!!

Hope today will be pleasant, but with the "wedding" going on today I doubt it.

I don't think Ron had anything to do with Haleigh missing, however this wedding thing isn't sitting well with me either. Very hard, if at all possible to justify this decision. I'm hoping that something will happen before this wedding takes place (not sure what time it is happening) Hope Ron comes to his senses or something.Morning mom..good your here early...I hope that none of these families had anything to do with this child missing...but..they are making that very difficult w/their actions. As each day comes and goes it just gets worse. I hope LE can find something that will help find this little girl. Just don't know....

[aproudmom]

Good Morning
I do not think the searched long enough all the woods an water around there IMO

[Former Juror]

May the DISTRACTIONS of the day NOT take away from the fact that a precious, 5 year old little girl is missing.

For Haleigh :rose:

[Texas48]

Does anyone know what time the wedding will be today?

BTW...............I saw nothing different on this web yesterday. Same old things.................mooI have heard nothing on the time Peaches but will agree...seems to be same ole each day. IMO LE just does not have anything or they just aren't saying. Maybe today will be the day. We can only hope.

[aproudmom]

I feel the same way, get the same vibe, almost like she knows something but cannot say and is playing along with someone? I don't know how else to describe it. And with the lawyer stepping in and saying Crystal is afraid for Junior to be in the same house Haleigh was taken from, that tells me they are afraid someone will come back for him which would mean it's someone they are familiar with because no SO that is a stranger would come back and take a second child from the same home (I wouldn't think MOO) or she is actually afraid of someone in the home.

I thought he moved out of there?

[cg007]

I wonder why they are rushing to get married also. Is there a law of some kind that says you don't have to testify against your spouse? I thought I saw that on a tv show one time.

[ICE]

Today is going to be really bizarre.

Even IF Haleigh was already found dead or alive, today is too soon to have a wedding, yet alone not knowing where she is.

Maybe Ron really is as sick as he looks and thats the reason for the rush?

Senseless.

[WillowInFlight]

hey hey hey LOL I got married for the first time over 30 years ago, we aren't old we're experienced!

:loveeyes: You're my new BFF:laugh:

[Texas48]

I have no idea Bass. I think they should go back in there though. Anyone remember earlier that there were items supposedly found? I thought there were items the sheffield family had come across but I could be wrong in thinkin it was them. I'm wondering what it was that was found and I think LE ruled it out. I dont' remember seeing a link for it though, so maybe it was just rumor/gossip. Also curious as to what was missing that was very important.I so many questionsremember them finding something but never heard what. So many questions that have not been answered. TES leaving really threw me off and all I heard was Tim saying she was not in the area. Still shaking my head again...

[WillowInFlight]

Today is going to be really bizarre.

Even IF Haleigh was already found dead or alive, today is too soon to have a wedding, yet alone not knowing where she is.

Maybe Ron really is a sick as he looks and thats the reason for the rush?

Senseless.

I agree, there is a reason for the rush, and if you look, lots of acting but little tears at the PC. reminds me of SS. Specially with Crystal.

[Motomom]

NG's just being NG. As bad as I thought her comments to Renee Rockwell were about her late husband (a couple of months ago), last night's remarks to Daniel Horowitz were just as bad. I'm no Horowitz fan, HOWEVER, when she started shrieking about people living in mobile homes, being poor, blah blah.....am I the only one that remembered Daniel's wife was killed in the doublewide that was set up while they were building their house?

Nobody thinks that someone should lose custody because of living in a mobile home.

JMO

I think she got all City on harowitz because one, she didn't let him finish his comment LOL.. but he went down the path of Junior being in danger because haleigh was taken, which would mean that all siblings of children stolen from their beds are in danger. HEck , all of our kids are in danger every day whether someone has stolen them from their beds, their yards etc.. So I think she knew where he was going..yet didnt' let him finish before going into a tyraid (sp) about it. Then went on a that raid about the home..which there is nothing wrong with the home they were living in IMO And she does not point the finger towards Ron I notice..

[DenVIP]

well the national media doesnt approve of the wedding....was listening to roversmorningglory show and he ripped ron and misty this morning

[iluvspring]

Do we know for sure no one is still searching? Well, I guess we know that family isn't searching - they're too busy with too much nonsense. It seems LE has been particularly careful not to release too much info in this case,despite the presser yesterday. Maybe the reasons for that is they already know who did this or exactly what happened and they are keeping it very quiet until they have all their ducks in a row. Very odd that LE returned and removed the back door from the home. I believe there is much more here than meets the eye.

[Texas48]

I'm not sure where the footpring was found spring.. but the water does bother me as well. wonder how far from the house the footprint was found. If someone snatched her from her bed, why didn't they carry her the whole time? (if the print is her)I also heard the same about the footprint and also did not the dogs lead toward the water and then stopped. Anytime there is water close by one suspects the worst or at least I do. It is just such a mystery that a little girl can vanish...without a trace. Haleigh is out there somewhere and LE and this family needs a break..just that one little break. Thats all it takes. jmo

[ICE]

I agree, there is a reason for the rush, and if you look, lots of acting but little tears at the PC. reminds me of SS. Specially with Crystal.


Hi Willow. I have been a supporter of Crystal from the start of this case, but I was bothered by the dry tears and constant tissue dabbing I saw. Maybe she's just all cried out?

[Motomom]

I so many questionsremember them finding something but never heard what. So many questions that have not been answered. TES leaving really threw me off and all I heard was Tim saying she was not in the area. Still shaking my head again...

That's one of the reasons I am/was led to believe that they do think someone came in and kidnapped her. How can they be so sure she isn't in that area, if she is dead? I've never been on a search, so I'm not sure how they do it, how they clear the area or not. Remember too the door was taken from the home. Would we know it if they went in front or are planning to take what they have to a grand jury? To indict someone? We know in the CA case but I'm not sure we were suppose to. Also, I realize since no arrests were made that they don't have to release anything, BUT I'm wondering..maybe I watch too many shows, the killer/kidnapper usually always leaves something behind right. LE always holds something back, you know, something that only the perp would know.. is there NOTHING that they can release? I mean, nothing to say ok we found fingerprints that matched nobody of the home/family. I would like to see some people cleared, namely the mother and father.. Just clearing those two would make me happy.. so either they have something and CANT clear them, or one of them. Or they really do have nothing? How do our babies just disappear??

[mariah79]

I have a question. If the attorney didn't file the appeal for Crystal, how is it people were able to find a copy of it online? :shrug:

[ICE]

Hmmmm, sick like how? And if he was sick, and I don't doubt for a moment that he is sick at heart, what would getting married to a 17 year old accomplish? Or marrying anyone for that matter? They decided to get married, which in MOO was bad enough, but it's a decision that has been made already, waiting, planning and having a large wedding further down the road would have been even more bizarre. OR they could just stay in the planning stage until Haleigh is found which would have been more appropriate.


He looks like a cancer patient if you compare him from the start to now. I understand you are gonna lose sleep and lose weight and look bad when your kid is missing, but after a week or two and some meds...you would regain some strength to help you carry on. However.....if it's guilt eating you alive, it may never go away. Misty looks fine and lively.

[TaraCrazyHair]

This is an article in Jacksonville News. Reading the comments, I agree that people are very critical of this wedding. Why the rush? I haven't heard one decent reason on any of the talk shows as to why they need to get married now when their focus should be on finding Haleigh.

Interesting, however, that there was nothing I could find about Crystal lawyering up except for Nancy Grace transcripts. Nancy really caught the lawyer off guard last night....with this comment...Ouch!

GRACE: Why do you speak of Haleigh -- why do you speak of Haleigh in the past tense? I notice that you said Haleigh was a child with a lot of physical problems.

PICAZIO: Because she doesn`t have those physical problems anymore.


Both links below:


http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-03-11/story/haleighs_dad_girlfriend_set_for_thursday_wedding

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ng.01.html

Good Morning

I am a bit confused by that statement?

I thought Turner's was a lifelong condition?

[iluvspring]

Do we know for sure no one is still searching? Well, I guess we know that family isn't searching - they're too busy with too much nonsense. It seems LE has been particularly careful not to release too much info in this case,despite the presser yesterday. Maybe the reasons for that is they already know who did this or exactly what happened and they are keeping it very quiet until they have all their ducks in a row. Very odd that LE returned and removed the back door from the home. I believe there is much more here than meets the eye.

[Motomom]

Yes, he did, sorry, I meant wherever Ron was living Crystal feels like Jr would not be safe. I meant a SO /stranger is not going to hunt them down so they must have good reason to fear someone from the past or someone in the house.

ahh I really think thats just being thrown out there for the custody issue myself.. Because IMO, if she thought Junior was that much at risk, why would she put him on national tv, telling the world that he saw someone in all black ? And why didnt' she make a call to dyfs first thing after haleigh went missing. Ok, the first few days I can see not doign anything, but if the concern for his safety is genuine, I think she would have done something sooner. JMO

[aproudmom]

Yes, he did, sorry, I meant wherever Ron was living Crystal feels like Jr would not be safe. I meant a SO /stranger is not going to hunt them down so they must have good reason to fear someone from the past or someone in the house.

oh ok I thought he did you know I would be worried to even if she is not the mother of the year I must agree I would be afraid also.

[Texas48]

Her approach to this case does seem very odd. It's almost as though she has some inside info that makes her unwilling to get too involved in this case, at this time. We all know how she zeroes in on people especially if she has the slightest instinct that they could be the perp. This has also struck me as highly unusual for her. I have tuned in every night and couldn't believe that she wasn't covering this story every single night. Not like her. Something is going on behind the scenes that is keeping her at arm's length.
ITA Spring..I have watched NG for years and she is "always" like a bulldog and especially when a child is involved. In every other case she would have been all over this "wedding." And the coverage..well...she just isn't covering it and there has to be a reason..Just another Question in this case. jmo

[ICE]

That's one of the reasons I am/was led to believe that they do think someone came in and kidnapped her. How can they be so sure she isn't in that area, if she is dead? I've never been on a search, so I'm not sure how they do it, how they clear the area or not. Remember too the door was taken from the home. Would we know it if they went in front or are planning to take what they have to a grand jury? To indict someone? We know in the CA case but I'm not sure we were suppose to. Also, I realize since no arrests were made that they don't have to release anything, BUT I'm wondering..maybe I watch too many shows, the killer/kidnapper usually always leaves something behind right. LE always holds something back, you know, something that only the perp would know.. is there NOTHING that they can release? I mean, nothing to say ok we found fingerprints that matched nobody of the home/family. I would like to see some people cleared, namely the mother and father.. Just clearing those two would make me happy.. so either they have something and CANT clear them, or one of them. Or they really do have nothing? How do our babies just disappear??


Well they may think someone kidnapped her, but they sure were quick to race back to the woods on a tip, and to the dumpster. I just don't know whats going on in thier heads.

[ICE]

He does, but you know how some men can be, no meds for them, they'll tough it through, and he may think the haggard look is garnering some sympathy for him, and I'm sure it's working. I do believe he's being consumed with guilt, though, for some past decisions that might not have anything to do with the present circumstances but may have brought the whole shebang home to him and now maybe he's trying to rectify things by marrying Misty.

Those were all really good points.:thumbup:

[beachpatty]

:sad:Do we know for sure no one is still searching? Well, I guess we know that family isn't searching - they're too busy with too much nonsense. It seems LE has been particularly careful not to release too much info in this case,despite the presser yesterday. Maybe the reasons for that is they already know who did this or exactly what happened and they are keeping it very quiet until they have all their ducks in a row. Very odd that LE returned and removed the back door from the home. I believe there is much more here than meets the eye.


LE coming back for the door, after a month, really throws me. Since not much of anything has been done since organized searches by LE and volunteers have been halted, what in the world what they want that door for? People have come and gone, tours given thru there, media people, camera people, family members, if there was any evidence on that door, it would be long gone or certainly worthless in a court proceding. "Tainted" comes to mind here! I also wonder what they covered the hole from the door with? Plywood, a tarp?

I also wonder where the newlyweds will reside, if it were my child missing, I would want to be there, to feel the memories we shared, her "stuff", things near and dear and favorite to her, would certainly provide at least a smidgen of comfort for me. If they just go buy or rent a new home/mobile home, that would just be another example, like the marriage, of "moving on". Way too soon to move, in my opinion. Sad, this is all so sad.
:sad:

All MOO
Beachpatty

[Texas48]

IF this were my child/grandchild, I would be personally out, with anyone I could drag with me, going over every inch of all those wooded areas. Look how close Caylee was! I would be bug bitten, scraped up for the brush and thorns, but I would still be out there from the very crak of dawn till I could no longer see at dark, the full moon this week really lit up the woods behind us, I sat out back, smoking, and trying to imagine, searching. I would not be able to just sit still and worry, and I certainly would not be getting married :mad:

I wonder if the wedding attire includes the t shirts with Haleigh's picture? I would imagine that is a subject that is not covered in any brides magazines or anywhere else, for that matter, this whole thing is so far from normal. Weddings (birhdays, etc) are supposed to be joyus occasions, making memories to last a lifetime. How can anyone rationally plan an event that is clouded in sorrow?

MOO
BeachpattyITA ...and proclaim this as POST OF THE DAY. :beer:to each at end of this day after the wedding and all festivaties.

[Motomom]

Hmmmm, sick like how? And if he was sick, and I don't doubt for a moment that he is sick at heart, what would getting married to a 17 year old accomplish? Or marrying anyone for that matter? They decided to get married, which in MOO was bad enough, but it's a decision that has been made already, waiting, planning and having a large wedding further down the road would have been even more bizarre. OR they could just stay in the planning stage until Haleigh is found which would have been more appropriate.

I think there is a reason, just not sure what exactly it is. I dont think there is any reason though, that can justify it kwim? I am not set on any one particular reason. part of me thinks LE is involved. another part of me thinks that he just doesn't know what else to do. Looking for something to make him happy. THinking this is the right move, when clearly it is not IMO.

[iluvspring]

Do we know for sure no one is still searching? Well, I guess we know that family isn't searching - they're too busy with too much nonsense. It seems LE has been particularly careful not to release too much info in this case,despite the presser yesterday. Maybe the reasons for that is they already know who did this or exactly what happened and they are keeping it very quiet until they have all their ducks in a row. Very odd that LE returned and removed the back door from the home. I believe there is much more here than meets the eye.

[WillowInFlight]

He does, but you know how some men can be, no meds for them, they'll tough it through, and he may think the haggard look is garnering some sympathy for him, and I'm sure it's working. I do believe he's being consumed with guilt, though, for some past decisions that might not have anything to do with the present circumstances but may have brought the whole shebang home to him and now maybe he's trying to rectify things by marrying Misty.
Misty does look fine and dandy, but remember she is not the bio mom. Ron, has always troubled me. Maybe it's just his monotone way of speaking, and lack of true emotions.

[ICE]

Originally Posted by iluvspring
Her approach to this case does seem very odd. It's almost as though she has some inside info that makes her unwilling to get too involved in this case, at this time. We all know how she zeroes in on people especially if she has the slightest instinct that they could be the perp. This has also struck me as highly unusual for her. I have tuned in every night and couldn't believe that she wasn't covering this story every single night. Not like her. Something is going on behind the scenes that is keeping her at arm's length.


I am right there with you! NG has danced on glass in this case. I also notice that she seems to side with not ruffling Ron and his mother. She must know something. Also...Greta has put this case on the back burner, and Geraldo ran away from this story after he seemed to think he knew what was going on. very strange.........

[Motomom]

I have a question. If the attorney didn't file the appeal for Crystal, how is it people were able to find a copy of it online? :shrug:

And if the attorney didnt' file the appeal, why wasnt' Crystal blowing up that phone? This new attorney, should have gotten all of her information before going on NG IMO She clearly did not have it all handy, she had just pulled up the papers for the previous hearing (i believe) that day and hadn't gone through it all yet. I think that is why ng was a bit aggravated with her too IMO.

[Peaches]

I have heard nothing on the time Peaches but will agree...seems to be same ole each day. IMO LE just does not have anything or they just aren't saying. Maybe today will be the day. We can only hope.


Thanks for responding................thought I had used invisible ink and no one could see my question................:biggrin:

I hope that whoever took HaLeigh was not someone she loved and trusted..................

And.............I am praying that today will be the day she comes home.

[ICE]

I think the only thing going on with NG is that she has gotten very comfortable in playing the reruns of Caylee/Casey data over and over and over. She has lost her edge and probably will not get it back again.

I agree. When I want TV info on this case, only JVM is on it!

[Peaches]

I can honestly say even never having been in their position that I, too, would be out there looking somewhere anywhere every day all day until I found my child. Nothing else would matter, my life, as I knew it, would be suspended as long as I searched, and I would never give up, no matter how long it took. I would go over the same ground again and again if I had to. I could loose my job, I could get evicted from my house, I would have to find new temporary homes for my birds simply because my time would be consumed with searching for my child. These people have given up way too easily, when was the last time they looked for Haleigh anywhere?

And............I feel just as you..............I would be out there looking and begging others to help. moo

[Texas48]

NG's just being NG. As bad as I thought her comments to Renee Rockwell were about her late husband (a couple of months ago), last night's remarks to Daniel Horowitz were just as bad. I'm no Horowitz fan, HOWEVER, when she started shrieking about people living in mobile homes, being poor, blah blah.....am I the only one that remembered Daniel's wife was killed in the doublewide that was set up while they were building their house?

Nobody thinks that someone should lose custody because of living in a mobile home.

JMO
I remember that as well cry. I have heard NG make really rude/hurtful comments over past years but this was pretty low even for her. It seems to me that she(NG) is the only one every bringing up the MH..poor..bla..bla...I do remember 1 time someone brought it up on JVM and she stopped them in their tracks. Anyone could cleary see Daniel H. was stunned. This was an all time low for Nancy..IMO:cursing:

[CANDYKISSES]

Could any wedding comments be put in another thread?

I thought this thread was for Haleigh.

Maybe you could ask Coldwater to put the wedding thread in ENTERTAINMENT as that seems to be what it generates for the posters who want to offer commentary and you are correct in stating it's not about finding Haleigh IMO. :sad:

[Motomom]

I hope you're right and I hope you aren't right (although in MO you are) but if you are right and they really know something......and are waiting for all the test results to come in, etc before they make an arrest, then it means that she is dead, doesn't it, and they just don't know right now where she is? Maybe they're hoping Misty will slip off after the wedding and secretly visit a spot in the woods or something to whisper, Haleigh, daddy and I got married.

God, I just creeped myself out.

Well, glad it wasn't only me you creeped out LMAO

If Misit's involved, the hubbub has to die down before Misti will be whispering those words. Course in her head she may be saing nannynanny boo boo... I don't know.. I really don't know what to think about this case at all. Other than my gut feeling and that is someone stole her.. my addition to that would be that its possible Misti knows and allowed it to happen.. but then where is Haleigh? it was also creepy when the other day someone posted about the RSO that is missing (reynolds) and how he was wearing all black when he was seen last..

[ICE]

I find it interesting that there are still supposed to be 2,400 tips in this case. Thats alot of tips for a small area. I know some of those are supposed sightings in other places, but with all those tips you would expect a couple HOT leads.

[Peaches]

I think we all should have learned from the Cynthia Sommer case to not judge people by their actions during a tragic situation. Her actions after Todd's death were choices she made that others wouldn't have but they were innocent actions. A wedding may not be something some of us would think of but it doesn't mean anything suspicious is or was going on.

Ron was out searching every day in the beginning. He was out with Tim Miller while he was still there. They have searched the entire area surrounding the home.

He cooperated with the police from day one and at the pc the other day the police thanked the family for cooperating. He took a polygraph very early one and has been on tv pleading for his child's return.



You are correct................and Ron begged Tim not to leave.

Also, I still do not believe that Ron did anything to his precious child. I do not think that Crystal does either.

Why else would she have stood before everyone the other day..........saying...............mommy loves you.........daddy loves you.

If Crystal suspects anyone it is Misty...............MOO

[Texas48]

OMG I just heard they are getting married today. TODAY!!! why the rush?, This should be one of the most important, memorable days in her life. You do't need a whole lot of money to pull off a beautiful wedding, I did it 30 years ago. now I feel oldWillow my friend..where have you been? Yes..today is the BIG DAY. I have had ALL my coffee and chores are all done and I have strapped myself in for the DAY. ALL I could wish for is LE finds Haleigh safe and sound....Wedding is process...LE makes an arrest. ALL in the order.

[Motomom]

:sad:


LE coming back for the door, after a month, really throws me. Since not much of anything has been done since organized searches by LE and volunteers have been halted, what in the world what they want that door for? People have come and gone, tours given thru there, media people, camera people, family members, if there was any evidence on that door, it would be long gone or certainly worthless in a court proceding. "Tainted" comes to mind here! I also wonder what they covered the hole from the door with? Plywood, a tarp?

I also wonder where the newlyweds will reside, if it were my child missing, I would want to be there, to feel the memories we shared, her "stuff", things near and dear and favorite to her, would certainly provide at least a smidgen of comfort for me. If they just go buy or rent a new home/mobile home, that would just be another example, like the marriage, of "moving on". Way too soon to move, in my opinion. Sad, this is all so sad.
:sad:

All MOO
Beachpatty


Someone suggested that LE came for that door to keep it for trial. maybe that's why they took it? Do they normally do that though?

[ICE]

Didn't the police say a lot of those tips were from angry women about their ex-husbands?


Hahahaha....I had not heard that.

[Motomom]

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I am right there with you! NG has danced on glass in this case. I also notice that she seems to side with not ruffling Ron and his mother. She must know something. Also...Greta has put this case on the back burner, and Geraldo ran away from this story after he seemed to think he knew what was going on. very strange.........


Good point about Geraldo. Did he have anything on this past weekend about it? Wonder if there will be any this coming weekend? Why has he steared clear now..when he was right up in the middle of the mess, putting Crystal on and confronting ron and then having junior on. He should run away from it IMO because I think he caused that dividing line to be even stronger. Greta is all politics now, she devotes a few minutes to these cases at the end of her show.. I dont' even turn her on at this point.

[Motomom]

Thanks for responding................thought I had used invisible ink and no one could see my question................:biggrin:

I hope that whoever took HaLeigh was not someone she loved and trusted..................

And.............I am praying that today will be the day she comes home.
I bolded.
You and me both Peaches.

[Peaches]

Hi Willow. I have been a supporter of Crystal from the start of this case, but I was bothered by the dry tears and constant tissue dabbing I saw. Maybe she's just all cried out?



Although I do not think Crystal has been a very good parent, I do not think that she had anything to do with the disappearance of her child. Also.............I do think she loves her daughter but I do not think she realized how much she should have done for her child.

That country song by Kelli Pikler (sp) to her mother comes to my mind in this case................

And............it is not all about the money Crystal did not give her children, it is about the time she did not give them.............and her moving so far away from them. She could have shared more of their life if she was close by.............and I certainly think that Ron would have welcomed the help.

All MOO

[CANDYKISSES]

Didn't the police say a lot of those tips were from angry women about their ex-husbands?


Yes indeed they did bookie, they said quite a few were attributed to women who had issues with their ex's. You know that old song....ex's in Texas????

Well, I guess they have migrated to Florida now in pursuit of men at large IMOO. :loveeyes:

[Texas48]

Today is going to be really bizarre.

Even IF Haleigh was already found dead or alive, today is too soon to have a wedding, yet alone not knowing where she is.

Maybe Ron really is as sick as he looks and thats the reason for the rush?

Senseless.It is too soon IMO. This wedding is....whats the word? And if Ron is sick why in the world would he want to get married? There has to be more to this....What is it?

[beachpatty]

Someone suggested that LE came for that door to keep it for trial. maybe that's why they took it? Do they normally do that though?


I dunno, just looks a little late in the investigation to be taking the door for evidence, almost like someone had an afterthought? CYA? I dunno, I just don't know. :huh:

MOO
Beachpatty

[ICE]

Originally Posted by Peaches
Thanks for responding................thought I had used invisible ink and no one could see my question................

I hope that whoever took HaLeigh was not someone she loved and trusted..................

And.............I am praying that today will be the day she comes home.



I am actually hoping it WAS someone she loved and trusted because there would be hope she is alive.

[mariah79]

And if the attorney didnt' file the appeal, why wasnt' Crystal blowing up that phone? This new attorney, should have gotten all of her information before going on NG IMO She clearly did not have it all handy, she had just pulled up the papers for the previous hearing (i believe) that day and hadn't gone through it all yet. I think that is why ng was a bit aggravated with her too IMO.

That attorney didn't have it together. It seemed like to me that she picked up where Crystal and her mom left off.

I think the former attorney filed the appeal or else no one could obtain a copy of it online. I see it as more mud slinging by them.

[Peaches]

I have a question. If the attorney didn't file the appeal for Crystal, how is it people were able to find a copy of it online? :shrug:


Yes..............I even read it again yesterday.............along with a statement from Crystal's father.

Can anyone point me to the very first December 2005 filing where Ron was granted custody...............not the one we talked about yesterday where they were going over the appeal ................. we read enough of that yesterday. TIA

[Motomom]

Didn't the police say a lot of those tips were from angry women about their ex-husbands?

I didn't hear that. I think alot of tips they get in cases like this come from mb posters (not necessarily this one). I think some people get certain things in their head and decide to call. Also, people should remember that just because someone is posting comments under and article or topixor wherever, claiming they are in the know... doesn't mean they are.

[kitty1182]

Originally Posted by Peaches
Thanks for responding................thought I had used invisible ink and no one could see my question................

I hope that whoever took HaLeigh was not someone she loved and trusted..................

And.............I am praying that today will be the day she comes home.



I am actually hoping it WAS someone she loved and trusted because there would be hope she is alive.




I am hoping that too.....

[Peaches]

He looks like a cancer patient if you compare him from the start to now. I understand you are gonna lose sleep and lose weight and look bad when your kid is missing, but after a week or two and some meds...you would regain some strength to help you carry on. However.....if it's guilt eating you alive, it may never go away. Misty looks fine and lively.


Even without guilt of actually causing the death of a loved one, you are always haunted about what you should have done...........what you did not do...............how you handled something and wished you had not done that.............

I hope you can understand what I have written..........because I certainly have know this pain.................wished I had done more............wished I had done it differently.

MOO

[ICE]

Motomom.....You are so right about Chad Reynolds. I know...I know....LE doesn't think he's tied to this case, but he's a piece of the puzzle that needs to be officially ruled out!

[Texas48]

Do we know for sure no one is still searching? Well, I guess we know that family isn't searching - they're too busy with too much nonsense. It seems LE has been particularly careful not to release too much info in this case,despite the presser yesterday. Maybe the reasons for that is they already know who did this or exactly what happened and they are keeping it very quiet until they have all their ducks in a row. Very odd that LE returned and removed the back door from the home. I believe there is much more here than meets the eye.Good points spring. I hope LE does have more than they are saying. I had not heard they removed the door..Very interesting. I still have not heard WHY LE tore out the wall by the water heater. I suppose there are many of these questions we all have and I quess we expect LE to answer all of them.lol...Lets ALL ...HOPE for HALEIGH.

[ICE]

Even without guilt of actually causing the death of a loved one, you are always haunted about what you should have done...........what you did not do...............how you handled something and wished you had not done that.............

I hope you can understand what I have written..........because I certainly have know this pain.................wished I had done more............wished I had done it differently.

MOO

I think that makes perfect sense.

[Texas48]

Hi Willow. I have been a supporter of Crystal from the start of this case, but I was bothered by the dry tears and constant tissue dabbing I saw. Maybe she's just all cried out?
There is a time that one can get CRIED OUT. There is a time there are no more tears just a broken heart. I believe that Crystal has gotten to this point. jmo:sad:

[Owlface]

Although I do not think Crystal has been a very good parent, I do not think that she had anything to do with the disappearance of her child. Also.............I do think she loves her daughter but I do not think she realized how much she should have done for her child.

That country song by Kelli Pikler (sp) to her mother comes to my mind in this case................

And............it is not all about the money Crystal did not give her children, it is about the time she did not give them.............and her moving so far away from them. She could have shared more of their life if she was close by.............and I certainly think that Ron would have welcomed the help.

All MOO


A lot of people have the same complaint about Crystal - that she only saw her children 4 days a month, didn't pay child support etc.

I can't help thinking that if it was a father who saw his children only 4 days a month, didn't pay - the spin would be a lot different. People wouldn't think it was particularly unusual and it might even be spun that it was mother's fault he spent so little time with his child and why should he pay when she's keeping him away from his kids. JMHO

[Motomom]

Even without guilt of actually causing the death of a loved one, you are always haunted about what you should have done...........what you did not do...............how you handled something and wished you had not done that.............

I hope you can understand what I have written..........because I certainly have know this pain.................wished I had done more............wished I had done it differently.

MOO

Good point Peaches. I had 2 incidence with 2 of my children where death could have occured had we not gotton to them in the nick of time. The third child got a very bad cut on her thigh last yr.. ohh I can't even talk about it.. After we returned from the hospital I was informed how there is a main artery or something and she could have bled out.. needless to say.. to this day I cringe thinking about it.. OMG what if.. what if what if what if. It's very...not even sure the word I'm looking for. So I cannot imagine my child gone missing... the what ifs would be that much worse than what I experienced. thank God all of my children are ok because I do not know how people handle it, I really don't and my heart breaks for them day in and day out. Sometimes these cases are too much, I see Caylee's sweet face, i see Adji's sweet face, I see Haleigh... and there are many others that I still see in my mind. That one little boy I think about often, his name always slips my mind though.. that sick pedophile family got a hold of him. Just makes me sick!!

[Peaches]

:sad:


LE coming back for the door, after a month, really throws me. Since not much of anything has been done since organized searches by LE and volunteers have been halted, what in the world what they want that door for? People have come and gone, tours given thru there, media people, camera people, family members, if there was any evidence on that door, it would be long gone or certainly worthless in a court proceding. "Tainted" comes to mind here! I also wonder what they covered the hole from the door with? Plywood, a tarp?

I also wonder where the newlyweds will reside, if it were my child missing, I would want to be there, to feel the memories we shared, her "stuff", things near and dear and favorite to her, would certainly provide at least a smidgen of comfort for me. If they just go buy or rent a new home/mobile home, that would just be another example, like the marriage, of "moving on". Way too soon to move, in my opinion. Sad, this is all so sad.
:sad:


All MOO
Beachpatty



Beachpatty..............every person is different.

Soooooooooooo for your suggestion that they stay close, no all feel that way.

My father, who loved my mother for 63+ years, could not stay in their house after she died. My siblings and I did not fault him for that. We thought that he should be allowed to deal with her death anyway he felt would be the easiest for him. He came to live with me and we kept his house until after his death.................It was just easier for him than staying there...............as I said............not everyone is alike.

moo

[Texas48]

I hope you're right and I hope you aren't right (although in MO you are) but if you are right and they really know something......and are waiting for all the test results to come in, etc before they make an arrest, then it means that she is dead, doesn't it, and they just don't know right now where she is? Maybe they're hoping Misty will slip off after the wedding and secretly visit a spot in the woods or something to whisper, Haleigh, daddy and I got married.

God, I just creeped myself out.OMG ocean...I got the chilly willys reading your post. I was imagining your post in my head. Don't want to do that again...all I have this am is coffee...wait till late afternoon. lol..:scared:ME

[Motomom]

IMO if it was the other way around he'd be called the biggest scumbag on earth and the excuses we've seen made for Crystal would be used to ridicule him.

Bookie you are so right IMO. There is NO excuse, no matter who it was. Man or woman. Some people side with women no matter what, others are harder on women. Maybe because as a mother, some can't understand giving up on getting your kids, if you really want them. I do not believe she was bamboozled in any way. I believe their relationship may have been toxic, due to both of them. It isn't always one persons fault.They were both young and both made mistakes.

Then they were living their lives, never expecting this to happen IMO

[Owlface]

It is too soon IMO. This wedding is....whats the word? And if Ron is sick why in the world would he want to get married? There has to be more to this....What is it?

Bolding mine - I believe he's marrying Misty in a vain effort to beat statutory rape charges. I also believe Misty's mom is going along with it to avoid child neglect charges.

As far as the connection to Haleigh's disappearance - I don't believe there necessarily is one, except that if this hadn't happened to Haleigh Ron's choices wouldn't have come to the attention of the authorities and he wouldn't be in trouble for having a young girlfriend.

[ICE]

Since last Friday, over 1100 tips have been called in.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/12/news/news02.txt

Thats alot of angry Ex-wives.

[Speedy30]

I don't know but boy the internet is buzzing. On one message board, someone asked if Ron and Misty were registered at the Dollar Store, it's bad out there so I hope people are prepped today as it's usually not so bad here, but step outside of InSession and you're sure to hear/read a lot of hate about what's shaking down today.

moo

Yeah, on one board I read a rumor that Ron is also Caylee Anthonys father:rolleyes:

Its too bad Geraldo burned his bridges with Ron and Misty, otherwise I am sure he would weasel a deal to cover the inside of this inappropriate wedding!

jmo

[?noanswer]

I have a question. If the attorney didn't file the appeal for Crystal, how is it people were able to find a copy of it online? :shrug:

That is the same question I have. Maybe the atty. that was on NG last night had not thoroughly investigated and was going by what someone told her. I know if I had paid an attorney to do something for me and he failed to do it, I would file a complaint with the bar association. JMO

[ICE]

I'm gonna chuck of either of them say.."This is the happiest day of my life!"

[Owlface]

Well..having been in a similar situation, I knew as soon as Crystal could get a lawyer the wedding would come and quick. This is still about having the upper hand over Crystal. I think the term is concubining. That is a no no in custody hearings. It was dejavue listening to what happened here, Crystal gets enough of abuse, leaves with children, Ron takes them (and they will because custody isn't established yet)Doesn't return them, goes to court(crystal isn't served papers), he gets custody and has more over her head with child support. We went thru this same mess and my ex-son-in-law made a career out of making my daughter's life miserable. He didn't want the child as soon as he got him, he was sent to his mother. Ron was awarded custody because he lived with his mother then, he moves out of mother's house and gets GF to care for children. Any responsible father who cared enough for his children would have seen it was in the best interest of the children if he was working nights and the mother unemployed to let the mother tend to the children during the week and get the children on his off days. I have always thought this whole thing was a control issue from the start.


Bolding mine - ITA with your whole post. My job involves working with domestic violence issues which are all about power and control - and those are the dynamics I totally see with Ron throughout this whole thing. JMHO

[CANDYKISSES]

I hope you're right and I hope you aren't right (although in MO you are) but if you are right and they really know something......and are waiting for all the test results to come in, etc before they make an arrest, then it means that she is dead, doesn't it, and they just don't know right now where she is? Maybe they're hoping Misty will slip off after the wedding and secretly visit a spot in the woods or something to whisper, Haleigh, daddy and I got married.

God, I just creeped myself out.

Oooohhhh, you got me on that one too nan. :chicken:

I am reminded of MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL.....

:w00t:JMO

[Texas48]

I think the only thing going on with NG is that she has gotten very comfortable in playing the reruns of Caylee/Casey data over and over and over. She has lost her edge and probably will not get it back again.Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that she(NG) started "loosing her edge" when JVM got a show of her own airing prior to NG show?

[?noanswer]

Good Morning

I am a bit confused by that statement?

I thought Turner's was a lifelong condition?

I didn't go to the links and read them, but IIRC on NG last night she mentioned something about not having asthma or respiratory problems anymore.

There was speculation on the board that maybe the item that TN mentioned was an inhaler or a machine that helped her breathe. I don't know if her statement was innoncent or if she was trying to dispel that "rumor". JMO

[ICE]

Please don't tell me that the wedding will be held in Chili's "Community Room."

[Texas48]

I think there is a reason, just not sure what exactly it is. I dont think there is any reason though, that can justify it kwim? I am not set on any one particular reason. part of me thinks LE is involved. another part of me thinks that he just doesn't know what else to do. Looking for something to make him happy. THinking this is the right move, when clearly it is not IMO.I agree mom but what I see in all is PRETEND even down to TN. JMO

[Peaches]

If Crystal had stayed closer, not working, she could have certainly helped with the kids on a daily basis, along with grandma, and maybe RC would not have had to find a sitter, let alone sleep with her. IMO.


And, these were choices she made.

No one can tell me she was not all about what made her happy...........dating.........living with bf..........having another child.........this all took her time and her attention.

I have seen this happen first hand.

All moo

[Peaches]

Honey, when you get to our age, chances are we have all had those moments at least once. But if we HAD done it differently we would be perfect, and that's just too unrealistic of an expectation to saddle yourself with. Please don't beat yourself up.


Thanks................and that you too ICE.

[Texas48]

Originally Posted by iluvspring
Her approach to this case does seem very odd. It's almost as though she has some inside info that makes her unwilling to get too involved in this case, at this time. We all know how she zeroes in on people especially if she has the slightest instinct that they could be the perp. This has also struck me as highly unusual for her. I have tuned in every night and couldn't believe that she wasn't covering this story every single night. Not like her. Something is going on behind the scenes that is keeping her at arm's length.


I am right there with you! NG has danced on glass in this case. I also notice that she seems to side with not ruffling Ron and his mother. She must know something. Also...Greta has put this case on the back burner, and Geraldo ran away from this story after he seemed to think he knew what was going on. very strange.........And to add to that...LE not giving us much...Grrrrr...:cursing:

[?noanswer]

I think the only thing going on with NG is that she has gotten very comfortable in playing the reruns of Caylee/Casey data over and over and over. She has lost her edge and probably will not get it back again.

I'm wondering if NG is not doing a lot of coverage on this right now is because there is not much going on re Haleigh. Most of what is being talked about everywhere could be classified as "pure garbage" and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh and/or what happened to her. If LE has nothing, then there is nothing to report. When/if there is some kind of resolution to the missing Haleigh, I think she will cover it again. JMO

[playnice]

Since last Friday, over 1100 tips have been called in.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/12/news/news02.txt

I wonder how many of these calls are from psychics ? I hope they arent getting boggled down chasing those leads and take the focus off local leads.

[Peaches]

Good point Peaches. I had 2 incidence with 2 of my children where death could have occured had we not gotton to them in the nick of time. The third child got a very bad cut on her thigh last yr.. ohh I can't even talk about it.. After we returned from the hospital I was informed how there is a main artery or something and she could have bled out.. needless to say.. to this day I cringe thinking about it.. OMG what if.. what if what if what if. It's very...not even sure the word I'm looking for. So I cannot imagine my child gone missing... the what ifs would be that much worse than what I experienced. thank God all of my children are ok because I do not know how people handle it, I really don't and my heart breaks for them day in and day out. Sometimes these cases are too much, I see Caylee's sweet face, i see Adji's sweet face, I see Haleigh... and there are many others that I still see in my mind. That one little boy I think about often, his name always slips my mind though.. that sick pedophile family got a hold of him. Just makes me sick!!


It is with much regret that I have looked into the faces of 2 mothers who lost their children. These are mothers who I love with all my heart. My sister lost her son when he was 2 and my mother lost my brother when he was 10...................the first a medical problem, the second - drunk driver hit and killed my brother as he crossed the street coming home from school.

My heart breaks for anyone who has lost a child. I saw my sister and my mother age right before my eyes..............

Sorry...............OT

My heart breaks for both Ron and Crystal; I do not think that they hurt their child. I believe that both love her.

MOO

[Texas48]

Thanks for responding................thought I had used invisible ink and no one could see my question................:biggrin:

I hope that whoever took HaLeigh was not someone she loved and trusted..................

And.............I am praying that today will be the day she comes home.I SEE YOU Peaches..I hope ALL bears with me as there are many typos in my post which takes alot of time to type as my hands and fingers aren't what they used to be.lol...I do try and take the time to read ALL post and I do find yours very informative...so Thank you. Hoping we have some GOOD NEWS today.

[Peaches]

You aren't kidding, if it was the other way around, and Ron was the parent who didn't pay child support and only saw the kids a few days a month I would be doggin him like there was no tomorrow. There is not much worse in my book than a parent who wants to "play" but then doesn't want to "pay". I have not spoken to one of my brothers for 10 years for that very reason. The money he owed my nieces in back child support would have certainly improved their quality of life in immesurable ways. But I have held back with Crystal because public opinion has seemed to side with her from the beginning.



I know that you have notice, I have not given Crystal a pass...........:laugh:

[Peaches]

Morning everyone I agree with you. Sometimes tears just dont come even tho your hurting. I seemed to have gotten my nic back but lost all my posts anyone have a clue whats going on around here? I hope Haleigh is found soon. Today would be great!


Hello breeze..................what happened...........last night you had another name.............got it all straightened out????????

[Texas48]

Didn't the police say a lot of those tips were from angry women about their ex-husbands?LOL..LOL..bookie. I had not heard about this. I quess they have to "vent" to someone and took advantage of a Tip Line to do just that.

[Peaches]

I SEE YOU Peaches..I hope ALL bears with me as there are many typos in my post which takes alot of time to type as my hands and fingers aren't what they used to be.lol...I do try and take the time to read ALL post and I do find yours very informative...so Thank you. Hoping we have some GOOD NEWS today.



Thanks for responding..............your post are perfect.........

Let's find HaLeigh!

[CANDYKISSES]

I didn't find it offensive and I'm a female. I know many ex-wives who have tried to cause problems for their exes, some just for spite. My own sister is one of them. She had 2 children after leaving and divorcing her ex but kept his last name so the girls have his last name and when she applied for welfare DFACS came after him even though he wasn't the father. She did it knowing they would go after him. It was a game to her.

Oh you can't even begin to imagine the kind of plotting angry ex's will engage in even if it's illegal. I think those women who abused the Haleigh tip line to wreak havoc on their ex's should be fined for wasting LE's time IMO. :cursing:

[KatyDid]

I see John Walsh is coming up on The Early Show. They say he has comments on missing Haleigh. Has anybody seen this? I am mountain time. Did he have anything to offer?

TIA

[Texas48]

With the exception of the wedding all of his actions are ones that we have been assured over and over again on here that innocent people would do.I don't want to believe Ron had anything to do with Haleigh missing or even knows anything or knows who is responsible..but..there is just something about Ron that does not ring true..starting with the 911 call and going forward. But..this is JMO.

[Texas48]

Although I do not think Crystal has been a very good parent, I do not think that she had anything to do with the disappearance of her child. Also.............I do think she loves her daughter but I do not think she realized how much she should have done for her child.

That country song by Kelli Pikler (sp) to her mother comes to my mind in this case................

And............it is not all about the money Crystal did not give her children, it is about the time she did not give them.............and her moving so far away from them. She could have shared more of their life if she was close by.............and I certainly think that Ron would have welcomed the help.

All MOOGreat Post Peaches. It is very possible ALL will carry a certain amount of guilt for the rest of their lives weather Haleigh is found or not. I would hate to have their guilt. jmo

[Speedy30]

I think that it is to avoid charges also.

He's marrying a child, I know this is going to turn into some Drew Peterson fiasco with this young girl, Misty will leave, point fingers at Ron, just like Drews new live in gal.

Ron is screwed if he thinks he is going to keep custody, its never going to happen.

I would present the Judge the videotape of Misty saying how she does not trust her cousin, and that there was a fight the night before about a gun, lets be real, was the cousin really there to see his fav cousin, or was he picking up drugs from Ron? I think its too coincidental theres a fight about a gun, then the little girl goes missing.
No court is going to give Ron Junior, hopefully, it would be a travesty.

jmo

[odyssey]

It would be wonderful if a private detective agency would go through the 3500 tips. Maybe they could get results from them that LE could not.

I would love to see a reputable private investigation firm taking this case. I just want Haleigh found.

[Speedy30]

Just as coincidental as a little girl going missing at the same time a mom is being hauled into court about back child support payments.

A gun takes presidence over child support. And that theory doesn't work, she would have to take both of the kids, do you think she took Haleigh just to cut payments in half? Do you think she was two hours away, had no money to pay child support, but paid someone to abduct her, and just by the grace of god the door was unlocked, talk about luck!!

She owes about 4k, its not the end of the world, hardly a kings ransom.

[ICE]

It seems like NG misses out on alot of info in this case because she is taping her show too early in the day.

[playnice]

I dont see anything wrong with a 17 year old babysitting.
Lots of teens babysit their way thru high school to earn money for name brand clothes etc.
Teens are high maintenance.

The lawyer mentioned teen taking Haleigh to Dr. Well, that seems responsible to me that she could be trusted to do that.

The problem here is that the teen babysitters usually arent sleeping with the dad.

[Texas48]

What gets to me the most is the way he "begs" for Haleigh's return. It gives me chills; his voice does not ring true with his appeals. IMO, he sounds like he knows exactly where she is and that she will not be returning.

MOOI am glad someone else sees the things that JUMP OUT at me when I watch/listen to his "begging for return of Haleigh"...All this JMO

[ICE]

"Originally Posted by Bratlings
I dont care what any of you say, a man who consistently seeks out teen age girls to date has serious issues. I wonder why? Is it because a woman his age might be smarter? More independent? Less needy? More responsible? Less willing to be abused? More likely to leave?"



Control over the young mind.

[KatyDid]

I wonder if Ron doesnt get custody of jr. just how long this great love for Misty will last? Will he go off and start blameing her then for what happened to Haleigh and that he didnt get custody of jr. I know this hasnt happened yet but if it does I would bet it dont take long for that love to go down hill real fast. all jmo

I agree! He showed his sentiments for Misty during the call to 911 the night Haleigh went missing. IMO

Something like my stupid ***** girlfriend.

I don't believe marrying her is going to change that sentiment. If anything, he will have more control.

JMO

[march27]

She did not have a choice. That was all she was allowed by court order and the kids had to be in school.

She did have a choice over whether she wanted to pay child support or not. Instead of getting a job, she got knocked up... good choice.

[Motomom]

At risk by Ron & Misty. Not the public.

Then she should have "mommied up" and did something about it before Haleigh went missing. And if she didn't realize until after Haleigh went missing that there was danger, she should have done something this past month. She didn't. The only reason I can think of that she didn't is because she doesn't fear for his safety like this lawyer suggested. JMO though :)

[Speedy30]

The comments were in regard to her being less than a good mother for seeing the kids only 4 days a month. That is what I was responding to.

As far as Crystal having another baby, that is her choice to do so. I will not discuss that unless you want to discuss Ron's children out of wedlock too. Including the one he doesn't seem to acknowledge or support.

No kidding, god forbid Crystal finds love and happiness in her life away from someone who smacked her in the head while pregnant, and seems to have ZERO respect for women, cue to the 911 call, I dont care how frantic he was there is no good excuse to cuss out a child.

jmo

[StickyBeak]

What gets to me the most is the way he "begs" for Haleigh's return. It gives me chills; his voice does not ring true with his appeals. IMO, he sounds like he knows exactly where she is and that she will not be returning.

MOO

ITA, I think yesterday on his plea was Baby if you are watching this, Daddy loves you, you are Daddys little girl, almost as if he was telling her the person you are with is lying to you. Then another comment, Give my Daughter back, she is Not your property. Gave me the willies.
JMO

[march27]

Then she should have "mommied up" and did something about it before Haleigh went missing. And if she didn't realize until after Haleigh went missing that there was danger, she should have done something this past month. She didn't. The only reason I can think of that she didn't is because she doesn't fear for his safety like this lawyer suggested. JMO though :)

Or she doesnt care. I think she sees what people are saying about her and is like "Oh crap, thats what a mom is supposed to do". I guess not everyone that has kids has the mom gene. Probably should stop after the first though. JMO only!

[march27]

ITA, I think yesterday on his plea was Baby if you are watching this, Daddy loves you, you are Daddys little girl, almost as if he was telling her the person you are with is lying to you. Then another comment, Give my Daughter back, she is Not your property. Gave me the willies.
JMO


So could this case be so hush-hush because they know who has her but dont want to give it away for fear they might hurt/kill her. It would explain alot.

[StickyBeak]

Sorry if previously posted, I am behind

Picture of Engagement

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/benzo_013/Proposal.jpg

[Peaches]

No kidding, god forbid Crystal finds love and happiness in her life away from someone who smacked her in the head while pregnant, and seems to have ZERO respect for women, cue to the 911 call, I dont care how frantic he was there is no good excuse to cuss out a child.

jmo


And how much respect is she showing herself............another child -----still an unwed mother?

Why not wedding date..............this child is almost 1 year old.........or is she older................I just know that she has had about 2 years and no wedding date set.................

Strange.........................

MOO

[MrLucky917B]

A lot has been made of the "property" comment. I myself am not sure what it means but I agree it was odd. I believe what he said is... Give her back "it" is not property you can just take. The "it" part really bothers me.

That statement didn't sit right with me either...

JMO

[MrLucky917B]

Wonder whats in that big bag on the table?

It looks like a ToGo bag, they were probably done eating when the question was popped.

JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Wonder whats in that big bag on the table?


Looks like left overs IMO

[beachpatty]

Wonder whats in that big bag on the table?


Leftovers? Doggie Bag, maybe? I wish there was a different shot, of them, they are wearing "Haleigh" shirts?

MOO
Beachpatty

[MrLucky917B]

Anyone know what time the wedding is, I can make it over to there in a hour if it's this afternoon.

[Peaches]

That statement didn't sit right with me either...

JMO


Mr. Lucky and others.............not everyone has a large vocabulary. Ron and Misty have to use words they know.............moo

Someone has said that Misty has a 7th grade education............most children have a 7th grade education at 12/13. Why 7th........she does not seem that slow to me...........but, who knows.

BTW...........my grandchildren amaze me with the words they know....sometimes, I will say.........what does that mean...........and they know. They are 4 and 5. Go figure.

all...........moo

[MrLucky917B]

Did that photo also say "courtesy of"?

That usually means licensing fees have been paid...

JMO

[KatyDid]

Wonder whats in that big bag on the table?

Chili's To Go?

[KKKKKKatie]

Anyone know what time the wedding is, I can make it over to there in a hour if it's this afternoon.


I don't think that has been announced MrLucky IMO

[Speedy30]

And how much respect is she showing herself............another child -----still an unwed mother?

Why not wedding date..............this child is almost 1 year old.........or is she older................I just know that she has had about 2 years and no wedding date set.................

Strange.........................

MOO

She is not obligated to get married just because she has a child with someone else, waiting is a good thing, unlike this Ron and Misty wedding, at least shes not being inappropriate while its a huge reality her child is dead or being tortured somewhere.

[MrLucky917B]

Mr. Lucky and others.............not everyone has a large vocabulary. Ron and Misty have to use words they know.............moo

Someone has said that Misty has a 7th grade education............most children have a 7th grade education at 12/13. Why 7th........she does not seem that slow to me...........but, who knows.

BTW...........my grandchildren amaze me with the words they know....sometimes, I will say.........what does that mean...........and they know. They are 4 and 5. Go figure.

all...........moo

I guess you are right, property would go with stolen as kidnapped would go with child.

JMO

[bama__angel]

She is not obligated to get married just because she has a child with someone else, waiting is a good thing, unlike this Ron and Misty wedding, at least shes not being inappropriate while its a huge reality her child is dead or being tortured somewhere.


Good morning Speedy......No she's not obligated to get married just because she has a child with someone.......But maybe our society has gotten things out of order.......Let's get married, have some stability, and then bring children into a stable loving home......It amazes me that Ron or Crystal would consider having other children when it has been a daily struggle to provide for the children they already have....IMO

[march27]

No, they look like they are gazing deep into each other's eyes and swearing silently to keep their mouths shut, JMO

Did I hear right a few minutes ago? Does Misty only have a 7th grade education???? For cryin out loud say it ain't so!!!!:ohmy:

I thought you had to be 16 to drop out of school? Someone dropped the ball somewhere. Why did her parents allow this? Why did the school board allow this? Thats one child that got left behind.

[caphill]

Don't know and don't care here, I'm wondering who will be looking for Haleigh while everyone else is at the nuptuals


I don't think the many members of LE and FBI that are working this case and chasing down leads will be attending the wedding. Why would anyone think an hour spend in church to exchange vows would cause the continuing search for Haleigh to stop.

[IlliniFan]

Breeze

Someone on the board figured out the Ron's work schedule, as in the time he was to clock in/out. I was thinking you posted that?

If so could you refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the post....

If it wasn't you, I'm sorry....I just know someone did.....tia

[Speedy30]

Good morning Speedy......No she's not obligated to get married just because she has a child with someone.......But maybe our society has gotten things out of order.......Let's get married, have some stability, and then bring children into a stable loving home......It amazes me that Ron or Crystal would consider having other children when it has been a daily struggle to provide for the children they already have....IMO

Good morning.

I totally agree, but its not like its out of the normal now a days, and that is very sad. Crystal has a right to have a family without Ron, as does Ron have the right to expand his family, there are so many people who are just longing to have children and some are running around breeding like rabbits, and its sad.

[IlliniFan]

Sorry i didnt have the clock in and out info. I did have the time his shifts were. And the weekend shift.


I didn't write my question very well..lol typical...

anyway, if you recall the time of Ron's shift would you mind posting..I think AMW has the info messed up?

[sickntired]

Do we know if they have honeymoon plans?

[IlliniFan]

Do we know if they have honeymoon plans?


No plans, per TN...

[bama__angel]

Do we know if they have honeymoon plans?



Ron's mom said no honeymoon at this time......I think....IMO

[FoxySly]

GOOD MORNING!!

Hope today will be pleasant, but with the "wedding" going on today I doubt it.

I don't think Ron had anything to do with Haleigh missing, however this wedding thing isn't sitting well with me either. Very hard, if at all possible to justify this decision. I'm hoping that something will happen before this wedding takes place (not sure what time it is happening) Hope Ron comes to his senses or something.


Oh my!!! The wedding is today???

It doesn't set well with me either so I keep remembering what Mr Sessions said on TV the other eve... paraphrasing something like around the 30 day mark you are real desperate & grasping at any happiness.

But IMO I just don't think this marriage will work out & for many reasons, such as I believe HaLeigh was/is a big time Daddy's girl.
I have no doubt they (H & R) love each other very, very much.
Ron seems to have changed his whole world for his Children & in every photo (& there's been many) of them together they are so truly happy.

How can Ron ever forget that Misty was the last one known to have seen HaLeigh. I don't know if Misty did any wrong & anyone who has followed these cases know that sadly MANY Children are snatched from right underneath adults noses... but still.

That post on myspace if indeed it was posted from Misty shows she has some IMO problems & needs some anger management.

I feel so sorry for Misty also because it seems to me that Ron is the best thing she has going for her but if she is found to have hurt HaLeigh MO will change in a heartbeat.

Why are her 'parents' not charged for Misty not being in school?
I thought the laws had changed for the better to protect Children & keep them in school.

I have known many girls in my lifetime who got married to escape a bad home life & if it's true Misty was kick out of her 'parents' home than maybe it was Ron's home or the streets?

Also Misty at her age can be confusing a bit of security for love, heck I know women in their 30's that have done that.

To bad everyone don't have to be evaluated before they're issued a marriage license. Dang it, you have to go through more adopting a dog than you do to get married & have Children.

My thoughts this morning.

Sly

~

[Peaches]

She is not obligated to get married just because she has a child with someone else, waiting is a good thing, unlike this Ron and Misty wedding, at least shes not being inappropriate while its a huge reality her child is dead or being tortured somewhere.



You are correct..............we certainly see that Crystal does not see that having a child with anyone means she should provide them with a home with 2 loving parents................

I also see ..............no morals/no family values...................

She has had 2 years to plan her wedding.............what is she waiting for...........baby number 2 with this guy.

MOHO

[Motomom]

Do we know if they have honeymoon plans?

According to one of the links posted yesterday TN said there are no plans for a honey moon or reception. That they would get married in the church with 20/30 people and that was that.. just going by memory though.

[IlliniFan]

The info is in my posts that were some how lost on here but if someone can post again where he works i will call them again, i was thinking it was 430 til 3 am and weekends were 12 hr shifts.

No no..don't calll..lol

4:30 - 3 am is exactly what I remembered you posting...

I went to AMW and they had 4pm...So I was confused...

I'm trusting your sleuthing on this one!!!! Thanks a bunch..

[skylark]

Hi all,

I have been following this case in the UK (Obsessively)! How inappropriate of them to be getting married when your child has been missing for so long i dont understand the emotional switch to a wedding (happiness, celebration) while at this time you dont know what has happened to your poor child.

Early stages i thought Ron kind of genuine and misty the sneaky one but after the proposal i think maybe the 2 of them are in on this.


Skylark

[IlliniFan]

Your welcome and I really did call and let on like my hubby wanted a job:scared: bless his heart I wish he could work his health is really bad. He looked at me that day like i was crazy calling them. Getting off for awhile as his nurse is on the way. I hope i come back to some good news and i dont mean the wedding planner:scared::

thank-you..sending good thoughts your way....

[KatyDid]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

Ground search for Haleigh Cummings continues
March 12, 2009

[KatyDid]

Search around Crescent City. Is that the area the cousin was staying when he visited?

[Peaches]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

ground search for haleigh cummings continues
march 12, 2009


great news!

[IlliniFan]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

Ground search for Haleigh Cummings continues
March 12, 2009


I'm really glad to hear that....Did the tracking dogs lose Haleigh's scent in that area?

Looks like Crescent City is several miles south.

[Motomom]

great news!

I second that!! Thank God they are searching... lets hope they find her. Now, I'm not familiar with that area. Is this close to the family home? anyone know where those roads, that us 17 leads to? IOW's anyone elses home? anyone's work? I don't believe they are searching there based on nothing though.. I think they got a tip in that they aren't saying.. Oh how wonderful would it be to find this little girl.

[MrLucky917B]

Do you think they have made arrangements with some kind of media for an exclusive coverage of the event?

moo

I think there will be some pictures in the media with the caption "courtesy of ......"

JMO

[KatyDid]

I'm really glad to hear that....Did the tracking dogs lose Haleigh's scent in that area?

I *think* this is the area the cousin was staying in when he visited just before Haleigh went missing.

no link, just think i recall that area being mentioned.

[sickntired]

At one point in the last month I remember someone asking TN if Ron and Misty were still a couple and TN said, I don't think so. This was right before he got his tattoo because I was surprised to see her with him at the tattoo parlor.

I can understand Misty being happy about her engagement/wedding....she is a very young girl. I'm not saying that I agree with this at all, but...she loves him.

[Peaches]

What kind of morals do you call:

-Physically abusing your children and their mother?
-Consistently dating teenagers while breaking the law?
-Denying another one of your children is yours?
-Calling your current minor aged girlfriend vulgar names?
-planning a wedding while your child is missing/dead ?
-Having your young children in the same room with you sex partner and you?


It seems you have no objectivity whatsoever. Only faults you can see are Crystal's. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

What?

Are these the answers to my statements? I think not.

[IlliniFan]

I *think* this is the area the cousin was staying in when he visited just before Haleigh went missing.

no link, just think i recall that area being mentioned.

That's interesting...ty..

[Speedy30]

You are correct..............we certainly see that Crystal does not see that having a child with anyone means she should provide them with a home with 2 loving parents................

I also see ..............no morals/no family values...................

She has had 2 years to plan her wedding.............what is she waiting for...........baby number 2 with this guy.

MOHO


No, maybe she doesn't feel she has to prove something by getting married.

Ron is marrying a child, he is a sex offender, not convicted yet, but he is, based on math and laws, maybe she wanted to have all that with ron, but she got too old for him?

jmo

[KatyDid]

Yesterday LE takes the back door off.
Today they are searching again.

Maybe they got a good lead yesterday, or somebody started talking after the reward money was upped to $35k.

[IlliniFan]

Yesterday LE takes the back door off.
Today they are searching again.

Maybe they got a good lead yesterday, or somebody started talking after the reward money was upped to $35k.


I hope you're right...

[frances1]

What kind of morals do you call:

-Physically abusing your children and their mother?
-Consistently dating teenagers while breaking the law?
-Denying another one of your children is yours?
-Calling your current minor aged girlfriend vulgar names?
-planning a wedding while your child is missing/dead ?
-Having your young children in the same room with you sex partner and you?


It seems you have no objectivity whatsoever. Only faults you can see are Crystal's. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And the same is true of your opinions, Bratlings. I don't even really follow this case continuously; only come here occasionally, but it never fails to amaze me how you are grinding your axe incessantly.

[Peaches]

No, maybe she doesn't feel she has to prove something by getting married.

Ron is marrying a child, he is a sex offender, not convicted yet, but he is, based on math and laws, maybe she wanted to have all that with ron, but she got too old for him?

jmo


As I said before..............no morals/no family values.

Thank God............she is not my child.

moo

[march27]

No, maybe she doesn't feel she has to prove something by getting married.

Ron is marrying a child, he is a sex offender, not convicted yet, but he is, based on math and laws, maybe she wanted to have all that with ron, but she got too old for him?

jmo


So are the laws that you cant date with this age difference but you can marry? If so the laws are backwards. Who gets married without dating first? Obviously they were issued a marriage license so it must be legal. I'm so confused.

[Peaches]

I never said they were answers to your questions. I asked you questions which you seem to be unable to answer! You want to talk about morals but you can only apply them to one party, that is hypocritical and minimizes the sincerity of your comments.


You know what Bratlings.............I have said nothing about you personally and I would appreciate if you would keep this on topic.

:cursing:

[Peaches]

And the same is true of your opinions, Bratlings. I don't even really follow this case continuously; only come here occasionally, but it never fails to amaze me how you are grinding your axe incessantly.



Just look in her next post, she is attacking me personally.

I really think this is againt rules on this board.

[march27]

The law applies to sexual consent not dating.

So maybe they want to have legal sex... I dont know. Still think it should be one way or the other.

[Themis]

At one point in the last month I remember someone asking TN if Ron and Misty were still a couple and TN said, I don't think so. This was right before he got his tattoo because I was surprised to see her with him at the tattoo parlor.

I can understand Misty being happy about her engagement/wedding....she is a very young girl. I'm not saying that I agree with this at all, but...she loves him.
Reference Sickntired's post 287 - Bolding is mine

As for the bolded sentence it tells me more about TN's lack of candor. If anyone knows whether RC & MC were still a couple she does. Hmmm
[JMO]

[Motomom]

What?

Are these the answers to my statements? I think not.

LOL Peaches, you know the drill.. support Crystal or nobody. You are quite objective as well.. as I am. Not so much with some others. Only CA gets mommy of the year :sneaky: neither of these two are perfect and I have yet to see YOU give either one a pass... I surely don't. Bad behavior all the way around. Saying someone doesn't have morals for allowing a child to sleep in their room is silly too, but so be it. There are no facts that Crystal was abused by Ron. I believe their relationship was probably volatile.. because of both Ron and Crystal. Two young people doing drugs, and having babies is not a good combination. You know you are not allowed to defend Ron here at all IMO.. whether you have explained your reasons or not.

Lets hope this search today leads to Haleigh though. One way or another. and lets hope that WHOEVER is responsible, Ron, Misti, the cousin, the brother, Crystal, her fiance, her mother.. whoever is responsible for hurting or taking this child should be held accountable.

[MrLucky917B]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-search-031209,0,3877048.story?track=rss

Ground search for Haleigh Cummings continues
March 12, 2009

Thats a long stretch of road the are searching...

[bama__angel]

LOL Peaches, you know the drill.. support Crystal or nobody. You are quite objective as well.. as I am. Not so much with some others. Only CA gets mommy of the year :sneaky: neither of these two are perfect and I have yet to see YOU give either one a pass... I surely don't. Bad behavior all the way around. Saying someone doesn't have morals for allowing a child to sleep in their room is silly too, but so be it. There are no facts that Crystal was abused by Ron. I believe their relationship was probably volatile.. because of both Ron and Crystal. Two young people doing drugs, and having babies is not a good combination. You know you are not allowed to defend Ron here at all IMO.. whether you have explained your reasons or not.

Lets hope this search today leads to Haleigh though. One way or another. and lets hope that WHOEVER is responsible, Ron, Misti, the cousin, the brother, Crystal, her fiance, her mother.. whoever is responsible for hurting or taking this child should be held accountable.



WHAT SHE SAID........ And thank you....

[TxLady2]

A few people have said the same Texas.. She seems angry IMO.

I caught that too. She does seem to be a little biased, and NOT in favor of Crystal.
I am trying to hold out hope that Haleigh is alive somewhere, but I would bet that LE has told both Ron and Crystal that hope is fading fast, and that is the reason for the somber and emotional reactions at the presser the other day.
I sensed a lot of hostility here yesterday. While it is normal for us to want to take sides, and to defend our views, I hope we can all remember that this is about Haleigh, and finding her. What the others do should not be our concern. I am as guilty as anyone else when it comes to stating my opinions, BUT this little girl needs to be found and brought home. BOTH her parents love her and miss her. And if she is alive, I'm sure she is scared and crying for her daddy and her mommy, and wants to come home. I pray that God will lead them to where she is, and soon.

[march27]

You know what? I'm so tired of hearing that Crystal should be paying her child support arrears, and all. Crystal, IMO got a raw deal at that hearing. IIRC, Ron was admitting to earning approx. $10 per hour. Which would amt to $1600 per mo. Crystal's income was given as $900 a mo, and she was assessed to pay child support at the rate of $325 a mo. That left her about $500, give or take to survive on. IMO, that was terribly inequitable. No wonder she fell behind.

moo

Yet she had another child. What amazes me is that people seem to think its ok to have babies and not take care of them. I dont care if its the mother or father, both parties need to take care of their children. In this one case Ron seems to be doing that. If Crystal had custody and Ron wasnt paying child support he would be a deadbeat IMO also but that is not the case.

[KatyDid]

Thats a long stretch of road the are searching...

It seems they may have a new credible lead. Yesterday they remove the back door and today they have a 100-man search in a specific area.

I recall Crescent City being mentioned weeks ago. Not sure, but it could be the area the Misty's cousin was staying in when he visited from Tenn.

I am still searching for a past article that speaks about that area.

[MrLucky917B]

Search around Crescent City. Is that the area the cousin was staying when he visited?

Thats what was said, although Crescent City is even shown on some maps as extending all the way to Buffalo Bluff Rd.

[Motomom]

Mr. Lucky can probably answer better than I can. But isn't this Crescent City area? Isn't that were cousin Joe was staying?:confused:


moo

I hope Mr Lucky answers. I guess google map would work too. Crescent City DOES sound familiar. Is the highway they mentioned, is it a busy one? Like a double laned highway eachway?

Do you think that they are doing this searched based on a tip and just not telling us?? Curious as to why today, they decide to search that area..think they are looking to find something before this marriage takes place? Not that it would matter one way or the other I guess but still. also wondering if where they are looking is inbetween anyone elses home or work.

[Beth Englema]

Thats a long stretch of road the are searching... So, let me get this straight, while searchers are out looking for Haleigh's remains today, Ron and Misty are getting married and celebrating a wedding. Is this correct?

[Peaches]

LOL Peaches, you know the drill.. support Crystal or nobody. You are quite objective as well.. as I am. Not so much with some others. Only CA gets mommy of the year :sneaky: neither of these two are perfect and I have yet to see YOU give either one a pass... I surely don't. Bad behavior all the way around. Saying someone doesn't have morals for allowing a child to sleep in their room is silly too, but so be it. There are no facts that Crystal was abused by Ron. I believe their relationship was probably volatile.. because of both Ron and Crystal. Two young people doing drugs, and having babies is not a good combination. You know you are not allowed to defend Ron here at all IMO.. whether you have explained your reasons or not.

Lets hope this search today leads to Haleigh though. One way or another. and lets hope that WHOEVER is responsible, Ron, Misti, the cousin, the brother, Crystal, her fiance, her mother.. whoever is responsible for hurting or taking this child should be held accountable.


Thank you for this post...............also, I hope they find clues as to where they can find HaLeigh.

I am going to pickup my grandchildren and take them to lunch/play. I'll be back later to see if you have any news.

BTW..............I really do not appreciate being bashed on this bb today. MOO is that it was uncalled for and if it happens again.........and I do not do this.........but I am going to send the post to CW.

[bama__angel]

Yet she had another child. What amazes me is that people seem to think its ok to have babies and not take care of them. I dont care if its the mother or father, both parties need to take care of their children. In this one case Ron seems to be doing that. If Crystal had custody and Ron wasnt paying child support he would be a deadbeat IMO also but that is not the case.



I totally agree with you.......I do have a problem with Ron if he knows that he has another baby and he is not taking care of that baby.......He should be paying child support to that child.....IMO the mom should nail his butt........if he is the father and I think he probably is.......

[march27]

It seems they may have a new credible lead. Yesterday they remove the back door and today they have a 100-man search in a specific area.

I recall Crescent City being mentioned weeks ago. Not sure, but it could be the area the Misty's cousin was staying in when he visited from Tenn.

I am still searching for a past article that speaks about that area.

Please please please let it be true!

[IlliniFan]

I caught that too. She does seem to be a little biased, and NOT in favor of Crystal.
I am trying to hold out hope that Haleigh is alive somewhere, but I would bet that LE has told both Ron and Crystal that hope is fading fast, and that is the reason for the somber and emotional reactions at the presser the other day.
I sensed a lot of hostility here yesterday. While it is normal for us to want to take sides, and to defend our views, I hope we can all remember that this is about Haleigh, and finding her. What the others do should not be our concern. I am as guilty as anyone else when it comes to stating my opinions, BUT this little girl needs to be found and brought home. BOTH her parents love her and miss her. And if she is alive, I'm sure she is scared and crying for her daddy and her mommy, and wants to come home. I pray that God will lead them to where she is, and soon.


I'm right there with you...nicely said..

[KKKKKKatie]

So, let me get this straight, while searchers are out looking for Haleigh's remains today, Ron and Misty are getting married and celebrating a wedding. Is this correct?

Sadly.....yes :sad:

[KatyDid]

Found it:

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.

[march27]

I totally agree with you.......I do have a problem with Ron if he knows that he has another baby and he is not taking care of that baby.......He should be paying child support to that child.....IMO the mom should nail his butt........if he is the father and I think he probably is.......


Absolutely. If the mother knows hes the dad she needs to take his butt to court. The only person that its hurting is the child by not getting support. It really doesnt matter whether she wants him in his life, she needs to be her childs advocate and get all the support she can and if he doesnt pay he too will be a deadbeat in mo.

[TxLady2]

NG's just being NG. As bad as I thought her comments to Renee Rockwell were about her late husband (a couple of months ago), last night's remarks to Daniel Horowitz were just as bad. I'm no Horowitz fan, HOWEVER, when she started shrieking about people living in mobile homes, being poor, blah blah.....am I the only one that remembered Daniel's wife was killed in the doublewide that was set up while they were building their house?

Nobody thinks that someone should lose custody because of living in a mobile home.

JMO

NG is making me very angry with her constant shrieking at anyone who disagrees with her. I'm surprised anyone agrees to be a guest on her show, she won't allow them to even get their answers out.
Seeing the inside of their mobile home, I told my husband I wish ours was that nice. We live in one that was built in the 70's, we bought it in '84. True, it's been remodeled pretty much, but it's still an old mobile home.
I wonder if this wedding today will be filmed in part by the media. I saw a picture on another board of the proposal in Chili's, so I am guessing that they will allow the media in. Should be interesting.

[IlliniFan]

Found it:

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.

Thank-you KatyDid....Seems to me that's why they are searing that stretch of road....at least to me...

[FoxySly]

What they think may not always be what's right. They have to investigate tips even if those tips lead in a different direction.

Yup... LE sure was wrong in the case of Tim Miller's Daughter which is why he does what he does now.

Hopefully LE is better here then the Trenton case.

I wish LE from Caylee's case were on this.

Sly

~

[Motomom]

I totally agree with you.......I do have a problem with Ron if he knows that he has another baby and he is not taking care of that baby.......He should be paying child support to that child.....IMO the mom should nail his butt........if he is the father and I think he probably is.......

I agree 100% with you Bama. IF he is this childs father he needs to pay up. IF he thinks he is this childs father, he needs to find out so this baby can be supported. It is the childs right to child support.. nobody elses. I cringe at all the young, unwed mothers who do NOT seek childsupport..because they are still with the baby's father or don't want the baby's father to attempt to get the baby. I've seen this first hand, in fact is happening in my own family as we speak. Absolutely he should pay up...no doubt about. The only thing, there are some girls out there are just as nasty. We do not know anything about this girl at all, so we dont' know if she slept around, if she knows who the father is or if she even wants the father in her life.. but still, the child has a right to support IMO.

[?noanswer]

So, let me get this straight, while searchers are out looking for Haleigh's remains today, Ron and Misty are getting married and celebrating a wedding. Is this correct?


When I read the article, I got the impression that the searchers were LE, not volunteer. LE does not want family members searching. JMO

[Motomom]

Thank-you KatyDid....Seems to me that's why they are searing that stretch of road....at least to me...

I know this is probably a silly question, but I thought Cousin Joe was cleared? Does anyone know for sure if ANYONE was cleared?

[Speedy30]

So are the laws that you cant date with this age difference but you can marry? If so the laws are backwards. Who gets married without dating first? Obviously they were issued a marriage license so it must be legal. I'm so confused.

Mistys Mom signed something so it would be legal.

Does anyone know when Mistys birthday is?

[KatyDid]

Mistys Mom signed something so it would be legal.

Does anyone know when Mistys birthday is?

Dec 9 or 19?? She isn't much past her 17th BD.

[Themis]

I know this is probably a silly question, but I thought Cousin Joe was cleared? Does anyone know for sure if ANYONE was cleared?
Motomom, I believe at this week's press conference it was stated NO ONE has been cleared.

[Speedy30]

Dec 9 or 19?? She isn't much past her 17th BD.

So basically Ron was messing with a 16 year old.

[KatyDid]

I know this is probably a silly question, but I thought Cousin Joe was cleared? Does anyone know for sure if ANYONE was cleared?

LE keeps saying everybody is still a suspect, or something like that.

[KKKKKKatie]

yes..But the good thing is, LE is out searching a stretch of highway to Crescent City, where some believe Cousin Joe was staying while in Florida...

Yes! I am praying they find find something!!!

[TxLady2]

Hi Willow. I have been a supporter of Crystal from the start of this case, but I was bothered by the dry tears and constant tissue dabbing I saw. Maybe she's just all cried out?

Did you all not see her hands shaking? She was crying! There is no such thing as "dry tears", tears are wet, her eyes were wet, her voice shook as she was speaking....she definitely was crying!
In contrast, there was not a visible emotion from Ron... he was like a robot. His speech sounded memorized. NO tears, NO shaky voice, NO emotion period.
For shame! :thumbdown:

[MrLucky917B]

I second that!! Thank God they are searching... lets hope they find her. Now, I'm not familiar with that area. Is this close to the family home? anyone know where those roads, that us 17 leads to? IOW's anyone elses home? anyone's work? I don't believe they are searching there based on nothing though.. I think they got a tip in that they aren't saying.. Oh how wonderful would it be to find this little girl.

US 17 goes south thru the peninsula, the first main road it hits is HWY 40 which goes between Ocala and Daytona, farther south the road goes through Deland and on to Orlando.

[Motomom]

Motomom, I believe at this week's press conference it was stated NO ONE has been cleared.

thanks Themis.. Now why am I thinking someone was cleared Uggg.. ok so all are fair game, including cousin Joe. I'm glad they are searching today.

[march27]

Can someone please pm me on where the banned list is on this site.

[Themis]

Because of the moderator's warnings yesterday I hope everyone remains courteous and civil today.

Sometimes people are so passionate ................... it excites others to respond in such a way ....................that tempers flare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KWIM?

I believe the best way to keep this thread open is to simply to scroll by incendiary posts. ;-) [JMO]

[MrLucky917B]

Mr. Lucky can probably answer better than I can. But isn't this Crescent City area? Isn't that were cousin Joe was staying?:confused:


moo

Yep thats what was mentioned.

[Motomom]

It could just be me, but I don't think its happenstance. LOL, is that a word. I think this search has been in the making. I'm looking back to the presser the other day, and there was something about the LE's demeanor that I thought, oh, oh, something's going to happen.

moo

I just got the goosebumps. First coast had cut out on LE talking while I was watching. I had to switch to HLN and missed most of it. I did hear SOME of it..but not the main parts I guess LOL

[IlliniFan]

I know this is probably a silly question, but I thought Cousin Joe was cleared? Does anyone know for sure if ANYONE was cleared?

At one point in time LE seemed to suggest that Joe was cleared or something to that effect...

I don't know, I can't help but think this is why LE is searching this stretch of highway.....???

[KatyDid]

Hmmm...HLN reporting the search is 100 deputies, area has not been searched before, and the search is not because of any new tips. 100 deputies is a lot to send out on a search just because the area has not been searched before, imo.

They also showed the house where the door was removed yesterday. It looks like all they took was the outside screen/storm door.

[ICE]

I refuse to get my hopes up with this LE because everything turns out to be a major nothing.

[MrLucky917B]

So, let me get this straight, while searchers are out looking for Haleigh's remains today, Ron and Misty are getting married and celebrating a wedding. Is this correct?

That's sure what it looks like, I'd hate to have them find something and then show up at the Church and make an arrest.

JMO

[Themis]

thanks Themis.. Now why am I thinking someone was cleared Uggg.. ok so all are fair game, including cousin Joe. I'm glad they are searching today.
You're welcome, Motoman. I thought it was interesting that LE continues to comment that they are still running a parallel investigation.
John Walsh was on one of the morning shows (sorry, can't remember which). He was actually talking about the huge drug smuggling problem from Columbia into Mexico. But when asked to comment on the Haleigh Cummings, he also used the phrase 'parallel investigation.'

That says no one, and I mean no one, has been excluded as a suspect.

I'm hopeful that LE in removing the back door is following up on some bit of evidence and trying to lock it in. Maybe, just maybe, this broader search to the Crescent City area will prove fruitful. [JMO]

[playnice]

I refuse to get my hopes up with this LE because everything turns out to be a major nothing.

I know what you mean. The dna got messed up. Why they are just remoiving that door since the crime scene has been released and now contaminated since people, media etc going thru the house.
The dumpster search weeks later. It is kind of scary. I hope there is a method to their madness. :w00t:

[CANDYKISSES]

Just as coincidental as a little girl going missing at the same time a mom is being hauled into court about back child support payments.

Yes it is, just the same kind of hair raising IMO and in the end it may all mean nothing.

On one hand we have Crystal not being very active in pursuing custody of her first two children, failing to pay court ordered child support, going on to create a new life and having another child by another man who was just a few months ago released from a protective order. Then we have her being the one taken to the cabin, asked for DNA and disappearing for a few hours and the fact she was recently put on notice about over $4,000 being owed in back child support.

On the other hand we have Ron who has managed to hold onto and provide for his children for several years now, entering into a relationship with an underage female five months ago, the underage female caring for the child as she went missing, people outraged at the age issue. Then we have some calling for statutory rape charges and her parents (who have an obligation to provide for Misty until age 18) having done nothing to stop it and literally granting permission for the nuptials, and they are quickly getting married.

Either scenario could be connected, but then again, neither one could have a thing to do with Haleigh Cummings being missing IMO.

[?noanswer]

That's sure what it looks like, I'd hate to have them find something and then show up at the Church and make an arrest.

JMO

I doubt if an arrest would be made immediately. First the find would have to be analyzed. If it was a body, then it would require identification, if it was evidence, then it would have to be connected to whomever was involved. JMO

[MrLucky917B]

Can someone please pm me on where the banned list is on this site.

Try this, scroll down.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showgroups.php

[ICE]

This feels different today Ice. Why today of all days. And 100 deputies. They sure seem committed for this search. I'm thinking they have a good tip.

moo

Well you are good, so I'm hoping you are right!

[MrLucky917B]

Is it still part of Putnam County? I need a map. lol

Yes it is, a couple miles south of Crescent City is where Volusia County starts.

[KatyDid]

So basically Ron was messing with a 16 year old.

yes, it seems that is true if they have 'been together' for 5 months.

[ICE]

Wow. That's interesting Katy, just the screen door. Wonder what that's all about. Fingerprints??


I'm not a cop, but wouldn't every door, knob, and window have been looked at for prints like.......the first day or two???

[TxLady2]

You are correct................and Ron begged Tim not to leave.

Also, I still do not believe that Ron did anything to his precious child. I do not think that Crystal does either.

Why else would she have stood before everyone the other day..........saying...............mommy loves you.........daddy loves you.

If Crystal suspects anyone it is Misty...............MOO

I agree, I don't believe either parent did anything to Haleigh, their grief is just too obvious. In fact, I don't think Misty did anything, either. I
am thinking that she was either too sound asleep for some reason, or she might have slipped out to friends' house for a few hours.
I think both these parents have made a lot of stupid mistakes in the past, but it does not make them killers. They loved their kids, I believe that. They might STILL be making mistakes, for that matter.... but it does not mean they killed their child, and we should not judge them for their past. And we don't know what their reasons are for what they are doing now, so the same thing applies.

[KKKKKKatie]

It's Haleigh's father, somehow I think there's a connection. Posters should common sense when discussing it and not make a joke of it on the 'tragic' event.


Thank you CW!

[ICE]

This is really sad, horrible and so uncouth of Ronald Cummings and Misty.

IT's a shame that LE didn't arrest them both this morning early before they woke up.

I'm firm believer that this is a case of family abuse, domestic violence on a child. Ronald Cummings eliciting sympathy from people? I dont see it; I'm not going to lamblast those who actually "feel" for .


Wow. How do you REALLY feel? :wink: You go girl!!

[Themis]

Here's a map link showing Crecent City and surroundings. You can zoom in and out.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Crescent+City&state=FL


North-east of Crescent City is Waleka. Isn't that where GGM Annette Sykes lives? I am trying to orient myself with regard to distance in miles from Satsuma. Sykes got from her house to the mobile home in 10-15 minutes -- maybe 12-15 milels? [JMO]

[KatyDid]

Wow. That's interesting Katy, just the screen door. Wonder what that's all about. Fingerprints??

My guess would be looking for some kind of forensic evidence, but that seems odd so late in the search.

Maybe there is no connection, but it seems connected since they took the door yesterday and today have a search team of 100 deputies. Deputies would have the background to identify something specific if they had some kind of new evidence. I wonder how long it takes to put a 100 deputy search team together.

JMO though.

[Motomom]

This feels different today Ice. Why today of all days. And 100 deputies. They sure seem committed for this search. I'm thinking they have a good tip.

moo

I agree with you here Swar.. I think you are right.. I think it's a tip.

[IlliniFan]

Ice,

You would sure think prints would have been taken a long time ago...

Plus, the MH has been turned over to the family for several days now...the media has touched those doors...dunno?

[MrLucky917B]

I doubt if an arrest would be made immediately. First the find would have to be analyzed. If it was a body, then it would require identification, if it was evidence, then it would have to be connected to whomever was involved. JMO

Thats right they would wait it tip off NG so she could catch the arrest live.

or maybe not, I forgot this is Putnam Co not Orange Co.

JMO

[playnice]

I agree, I don't believe either parent did anything to Haleigh, their grief is just too obvious. In fact, I don't think Misty did anything, either. I
am thinking that she was either too sound asleep for some reason, or she might have slipped out to friends' house for a few hours.
I think both these parents have made a lot of stupid mistakes in the past, but it does not make them killers. They loved their kids, I believe that. They might STILL be making mistakes, for that matter.... but it does not mean they killed their child, and we should not judge them for their past. And we don't know what their reasons are for what they are doing now, so the same thing applies.

ITA. I dont think either parent killed Haleigh.

[omsk99]

Here we go again :rolleyes:

Different day same c*ap :rolleyes:

Exactly! It's such a shame it's happening to this forum, it used to be an interesting discussion. :bored:

[day2day]

It's Haleigh's father, somehow I think there's a connection. Posters should use common sense when discussing it and not make a joke of it on the 'tragic' event.

Thank you, Coldwater!! :thumbsup:

[Speedy30]

Wedding ceremony to kick off at 4:00 pm. http://www.wftv.com/news/18915611/detail.html


Oh wonderful!

Why is anyone encouraging this wedding? Why dont they realize how bad this looks, take off the wedding clothes and go search for Haleigh? I have heard the LE does not want them to search. Well, the LE would never have stopped me from searching for my daughter if she was missing.

Does it phase Ron at all Haleigh, if alive could be in a bunch of distress, a sex offenders little playtoy? How can he have a celebration at this time, what is there to celebrate?

Why the rush? They should cancel it.

jmo

[ICE]

Exactly! It's such a shame it's happening to this forum, it used to be an interesting discussion. :bored:


I'm interesting. :smile:

[TxLady2]

There was a very high profile trial here a few weeks ago, to make a long story short, a front door to a dwelling was broken in by a battering ram and the actual front door AND the battering ram was brought into court and introduced asd evidence, also so the jury could actually see it. So yes, it happens.

They could also be testing to see if there was any signs of breaking in, or that the lock had been tampered with. Not sure how this might help the case, because the door could have been left unlocked.

[omsk99]

NG is making me very angry with her constant shrieking at anyone who disagrees with her. I'm surprised anyone agrees to be a guest on her show, she won't allow them to even get their answers out.
Seeing the inside of their mobile home, I told my husband I wish ours was that nice. We live in one that was built in the 70's, we bought it in '84. True, it's been remodeled pretty much, but it's still an old mobile home.
I wonder if this wedding today will be filmed in part by the media. I saw a picture on another board of the proposal in Chili's, so I am guessing that they will allow the media in. Should be interesting.

Sorry if this was answered before, but I read the media won't be allowed inside during the wedding.

[KKKKKKatie]

I'm interesting. :smile:

Yes you are! :lol:

[playnice]

The only way I see them taking an entire door, even if it's a screen door, for use in a trial is if the door had evidence on it like blood.

Its weird why they are just taking it.
If its for evidence a defense attorney will rip it apart. Its a contaminated crime scene now.

[ICE]

Yes you are! :lol:


awwwww....your so HONEST! :lol:

[MrLucky917B]

Just caught the update on CNN, LE is saying the search today isn't based on a new tip but is an area that wasn't searched :blink:

Then why was the search stopped and TES sent packing?

[5boxersmom]

HLN is on and reporting they are searching railroad tracks and thirty feet back from the road.

I saw the RR sign. How close is this to Haleigh's home?

[TxLady2]

Although I do not think Crystal has been a very good parent, I do not think that she had anything to do with the disappearance of her child. Also.............I do think she loves her daughter but I do not think she realized how much she should have done for her child.

That country song by Kelli Pikler (sp) to her mother comes to my mind in this case................

And............it is not all about the money Crystal did not give her children, it is about the time she did not give them.............and her moving so far away from them. She could have shared more of their life if she was close by.............and I certainly think that Ron would have welcomed the help.

All MOO

So far away? An hour and a half is not that far.
My husband came down here to Texas from Colorado after his divorce, and there is NO ONE who loves their kids more than he does. Distance has nothing to do with whether you love your kids or not.
I could be wrong, but I remember reading that Ron would not allow Crystal to even talk to the kids in between visits, and that she did not even know where they lived, she had to meet them outside town to pick them up for visitation. So whatever she did not do for her kids, might have had more to do with what he allowed and didn't allow, rather than through any choice of hers.

[FoxySly]

Wow, I had not seen this from bookie's link:

On Saturday, Sheffield and Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, apologized for making accusations that Cummings and his girlfriend may have been lying about what they knew. They were all side-by-side on Saturday night to pray for Haleigh.


Here's the part about the angry ex wives:

"We have gotten more than 500 leads so far," Ryan said, adding that many of the leads are angry ex-wives trying to get their former husbands in trouble.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902161002/0/ENTERTAINMENT02

Sly

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[Themis]

Speedy, personally I do not believe the 'Rush To Wedding' is entirely RC's idea. I think TN and AS are behind the scenes doing some more manipulating in what they think is the right thing to do.
But then I also allow for fact that Misty could really pushing The Wedding to happen quickly, too. [JMO]

[ICE]

Just caught the update on CNN, LE is saying the search today isn't based on a new tip but is an area that wasn't searched :blink:

Then why was the search stopped and TES sent packing?

Thats the million dollar question. It made NO sense at the time, and it makes even less sense now that they have returned a few times to re-search the area.

[IlliniFan]

So does anyone think the search to Crescent City is linked to Cousin Joe??? Maybe it's just a coincidence??? I think mapquest shows that stretch of road to be 12 miles or so...If this was unrelated to Joe, why search all way to Crescent City...Why not search farther, why all they to CC. But, without looking, maybe that is the next town on that stretch of road??

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it??

[Speedy30]

I sure don't see any mention of Crystal searching. Why are you giving her a free pass while slamming Ron? She isn't disabled or employed so she has plenty of time and the ability to walk.

Well, why should Crystal be combing the woods? The person who was left in charge with her daughter, the girls watch Haleigh was abducted on, shes not employed or disabled, yet the only walking shes doing is walking down an aisle to get married today, setting aside the fact Haliegh could be chained in a pedophiles basement or dead. I think its fact Crystal was two hours away at the time of her abduction, she wasn't there, Misty was.

jmo