Thursday March 12th - Hope for Haleigh

[odyssey]

Search around Crescent City. Is that the area the cousin was staying when he visited?

That is where Chad Reynolds' grandparents live.

[omsk99]

I'm interesting. :smile:

Good to see you here again! :seeya:

[MrLucky917B]

I saw the RR sign. How close is this to Haleigh's home?

The road they are searching parallels the RR tracks all the way down the peninsula.

Just noticed that that area is an issmus and not a penninsula.

[playnice]

That is where Chad Reynolds' grandparents live.

Wow. I didnt realize he had family that close.

[ICE]

Wow. I didnt realize he had family that close.

wow. me neither.

[Themis]

Thanks Themis....Great map!!A 100 miles a minute??? No way, IMO.
You're welcome. It is a good map.

Just to re-emphasize my guess at Waleka was just from memory about where Sykes lives. Some of these names, which I assume are American Indian derivatives, are confusing to me. And so is the 10-15 minutes time frame.
I hope somewhere more familiar with Sykes address and prior statements will correct me if I am wrong. [JMO]

[5boxersmom]

The road they are searching parallels the RR tracks all the way down the peninsula.

Thanks.

imo

[TxLady2]

Well..having been in a similar situation, I knew as soon as Crystal could get a lawyer the wedding would come and quick. This is still about having the upper hand over Crystal. I think the term is concubining. That is a no no in custody hearings. It was dejavue listening to what happened here, Crystal gets enough of abuse, leaves with children, Ron takes them (and they will because custody isn't established yet)Doesn't return them, goes to court(crystal isn't served papers), he gets custody and has more over her head with child support. We went thru this same mess and my ex-son-in-law made a career out of making my daughter's life miserable. He didn't want the child as soon as he got him, he was sent to his mother. Ron was awarded custody because he lived with his mother then, he moves out of mother's house and gets GF to care for children. Any responsible father who cared enough for his children would have seen it was in the best interest of the children if he was working nights and the mother unemployed to let the mother tend to the children during the week and get the children on his off days. I have always thought this whole thing was a control issue from the start.

That is my thinking too. It's all about control! And if Crystal's lawyer is any good, he is going to lose control of even Jr.
This wedding is just an "in your face" thing. I do not blame her one bit for pushing this custody issue right now. I would do the same.

[omsk99]

So does anyone think the search to Crescent City is linked to Cousin Joe??? Maybe it's just a coincidence??? I think mapquest shows that stretch of road to be 12 miles or so...If this was unrelated to Joe, why search all way to Crescent City...Why not search farther, why all they to CC. But, without looking, maybe that is the next town on that stretch of road??

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it??

I thought LE cleared "cousin Joe"? :confused:

[KatyDid]

That is where Chad Reynolds' grandparents live.

I went searching for the info on the cousin after I posted that. It is also where the cousin was visiting just prior to Haleigh's disappearance.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.

[iluvspring]

No cousin Joe wasn't cleared. LE backtracked on that in the last week or so.

I'm not exactly a mathmetician, but if you start adding things up here you just might come up with Cousin Joe is a very strong suspect. He was never cleared and he was looked at again recently. Now there is the search in the vicinity where he had been staying and if they already have his prints or dna they are prolly in the process of building a case. Maybe they are expecting/hoping to find his prints or dna on the door.

[omsk99]

Well, why should Crystal be combing the woods?

jmo


Because she is her mother?.. :shrug:

(Snipped for space, not content.)

[IlliniFan]

Wow, I had not seen this from bookie's link:

On Saturday, Sheffield and Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, apologized for making accusations that Cummings and his girlfriend may have been lying about what they knew. They were all side-by-side on Saturday night to pray for Haleigh.


Here's the part about the angry ex wives:

"We have gotten more than 500 leads so far," Ryan said, adding that many of the leads are angry ex-wives trying to get their former husbands in trouble.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902161002/0/ENTERTAINMENT02

Sly

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I wonder if the new spokesperson or lawyer suggested this...I doubt either one thought the numerous accusations on National Television was good move.

[ICE]

again.....I'm not a cop (Although after this I should sign up), but if the dogs went to the tracks early on, why not follow the tracks both ways in a search?

[IlliniFan]

Thanks Themis....Great map!!A 100 miles a minute??? No way, IMO.


I thought it was TN that drove to Ron's that night...??

Does TN live in Crescent City...confused

[playnice]

again.....I'm not a cop (Although after this I should sign up), but if the dogs went to the tracks early on, why not follow the tracks both ways in a search?

And do it early on too.

[bama__angel]

If this has already been mentioned, please ignore.....I saw John Walsh on the CBS morning show this morning and he talked about Haleigh's disappearance.......He said as time goes on without locating Haleigh the chances of finding a living Haleigh decrease greatly. But he also said you never ever give up hope and pointed out the Elizabeth Smart case.. He was also asked about the wedding of Ron and Misty today. This was a kind of different attitude than we have heard....He said and this is based on his personal experience, This type of tragedy either brings people closer or it completely tears people apart......He wouldnt criticize Ron or Misty at all......

[iluvspring]

Sheesh, if it turns out to be someone other than Ron, Misty, Crystal I hope you folks will be apologizing to each other.
I'm sorta new to InSessions, but I was a court tv poster with another nic before. CW has been pretty generous with you folks. I would have expected her to be giving time outs or complete bans by now. PM's are for bashing - if you really have to do that.

[Themis]

Wow, I had not seen this from bookie's link:

On Saturday, Sheffield and Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, apologized for making accusations that Cummings and his girlfriend may have been lying about what they knew. They were all side-by-side on Saturday night to pray for Haleigh.


Here's the part about the angry ex wives:

"We have gotten more than 500 leads so far," Ryan said, adding that many of the leads are angry ex-wives trying to get their former husbands in trouble.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902161002/0/ENTERTAINMENT02

Sly

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Yeah ... well with regard to Marie Griffis apology, FoxySly, you cannot un-ring that bell can you?

As for angry ex-wives and such flooding the tip line with phony tips, it's a shame they won't/cannot be tracked down and fined at least $100 for wasting LE's precious time where Haleigh's very life is at stake.:cursing: [JMO]

[mustangtoni]

HLN is on and reporting they are searching railroad tracks and thirty feet back from the road.

Doesn't sound like they are searching for a live Haleigh

[Former Juror]

HLN saying it's not just local deputies called in for the search, they are walking along the railroad tracks as well, largest search area they've seen about a 13 mile area, starting in Satsuma, going down 13 miles along highway 17 to crescent city. Very heavily wooded area, coastguard and fish and wildlife helping with the search. Father Ronald will not be helping with the search, he is planning on getting married today. Ron's proposal consisted of bending down on one knee and saying "baby I love you, will you marry me?" Also, family is saying "they are concerned about what people may think about this, but once again this is about Haleigh because this is what Haleigh always wanted."

Oh, please. How long have Ron and Misty even dated? This family...... :unsure:

(And, I'm addressing the family's comment NOT your post.)

[ICE]

If this was not so sad, it would be comical. They hafta get married TODAY with a search going on behind them. If these people had any onions at all, they would say "we are gonna get married at a later date."

[omsk99]

No cousin Joe wasn't cleared. LE backtracked on that in the last week or so.

Do you happen to have a link to that? The last I heard/read, they cleared Joe:

"Saturday afternoon, Dick Schauland, of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said that cousin has been interviewed in Tennessee. Schauland said the cousin is not a suspect or person of interest in the case."

http://www.wesh.com/news/18768154/detail.html

TIA!

[playnice]

Yeah ... well with regard to Marie Griffis apology, FoxySly, you cannot un-ring that bell can you?

As for angry ex-wives and such flooding the tip line with phony tips, it's a shame they won't/cannot be tracked down and fined at least $100 for wasting LE's precious time where Haleigh's very life is at stake.:cursing: [JMO]

There was slamming, then apologizing and then the big Geraldo thing where the slamming got really bad. .

[IlliniFan]

That apology was from a week or so ago so it wasn't the spokespersons doing. I do think someone else pointed out to Marie that she should shut up.


thanks bookie...

[Motomom]

If this was not so sad, it would be comical. They hafta get married TODAY with a search going on behind them. If these people had any onions at all, they would say "we are gonna get married at a later date."

I think the "wedding" date came before the news of this search. But I do agree with you, especially now that it 's been announced a search is going on..they should postpone IMO

[sickntired]

And what about the horrible absolutely horrid face on that leg tattoo. It was so horrible that I recoiled every time I saw it. Not only was it a horrible tat it was not even a correct portrayal of what she looked like. It was scary to me :( Truly. BBL


Kat

SNIPPED FOR SPACE

I'm so glad you said that, I felt the same way. The tat of Ron Jr. didn't look too bad, but Haliegh's was awful IMO.

Has it been confirmed that the tattoo on his chest is his mother's name? If true that is creepy...I was thinking he had a girlfriend with that name.

[omsk99]

No, no no no one is cleared

IIRC, they cleared the AC man and the cousin, unless something new emerged in connection with them?..

[playnice]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Holy S**t. Again. Good grief.You like throwing me out of my chair. That is twice this week you have done it now.:mad:j/k

[FoxySly]

That usually means licensing fees have been paid...

JMO

I send photos to the TV station I use to work for all the time & they put or say courtesy of myshopsname but I ain't never got any money.

Sly

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[ICE]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx


Let the Onions grow!

[islandgirl36542]

Is Tom Arnold hosting this Wedding? Is in being broadcast on CMT?

[odyssey]

I went searching for the info on the cousin after I posted that. It is also where the cousin was visiting just prior to Haleigh's disappearance.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Yes, which means they had at least two reasons to have already searched that area. Boggles the mind. mine anyway

jmoo

[Themis]

Do you happen to have a link to that? The last I heard/read, they cleared Joe:

"Saturday afternoon, Dick Schauland, of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said that cousin has been interviewed in Tennessee. Schauland said the cousin is not a suspect or person of interest in the case."

http://www.wesh.com/news/18768154/detail.html

TIA!
OMSK99: LE saying someone is 'not a suspect of person of interest' is NOT the same as 'John Smith has been cleared.' [JMO]

[KKKKKKatie]

What the heck?????? Is it because something is really going on with the search????


Really makes you wonder????

[ICE]

Is Tom Arnold hosting this Wedding? Is in being broadcast on CMT?

Totally!:laugh:

[5boxersmom]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Hmm. I don't see how you could go get married when LE is searching for the body of your child.

imo

[Motomom]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Hold it tight... I didn't read that as postponed.. although I guess it is.. It said that they were looking for someone else to wed them didn't it? Do you think they are actively looking for today?? If it is because of the newest search, why not just say that? What's up with this, something isn't right.. do you think this church is refusing to marry them now?

[crymeariver2006]

I thought it was TN that drove to Ron's that night...??

Does TN live in Crescent City...confused

TN did drive to Ron's house that night.

GGM Sykes said she is the one who went with Jr. to the police station for him to be questioned that night.

[KatyDid]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Yes, :thud: here too, especially about the part where they asked the funeral director to perform the wedding. :ohmy:

[crymeariver2006]

Hold it tight... I didn't read that as postponed.. although I guess it is.. It said that they were looking for someone else to wed them didn't it? Do you think they are actively looking for today?? If it is because of the newest search, why not just say that? What's up with this, something isn't right.. do you think this church is refusing to marry them now?


Is that the same minister who appeared side by side with Ron? The one that was on NG?

Oh, and o/t but I didn't think notaries could perform marriage ceremonies?

[crymeariver2006]

Yes, :thud: here too, especially about the part where they asked the funeral director to perform the wedding. :ohmy:

See, I don't get that. What happened to the minister that Ron was so close to?

[odyssey]

I wonder if the new spokesperson or lawyer suggested this...I doubt either one thought the numerous accusations on National Television was good move.


I am certain that is an old article. She said something about not knowing about MIsty early on and then backpedaled and said she feared she had said something that hurt Misty's heart and she would not want to do that and then .. along came Geraldo ...

[bama__angel]

Hold it tight... I didn't read that as postponed.. although I guess it is.. It said that they were looking for someone else to wed them didn't it? Do you think they are actively looking for today?? If it is because of the newest search, why not just say that? What's up with this, something isn't right.. do you think this church is refusing to marry them now?


Evidently the pastor at this Dumas Baptist Church asked that ant statements made that Ron and Misty were getting married at his church on Thursday March 12, 2009 be retracted.....Now that is unusual.....Dont you think?

[KKKKKKatie]

Hold it tight... I didn't read that as postponed.. although I guess it is.. It said that they were looking for someone else to wed them didn't it? Do you think they are actively looking for today?? If it is because of the newest search, why not just say that? What's up with this, something isn't right.. do you think this church is refusing to marry them now?

Dunns Creek Baptist Church emailed a statement to our newsroom stating that there is no wedding scheduled to take place on Thursday, March 12, 2009. The statement provided by Associate Pastor David Dixon asked that any announcements made regarding the Cummings-Croslin wedding at the church be retracted.

http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

[crymeariver2006]

Saying his notary status is expired seems like a pretty weak excuse, notarys are a dime a dozen anywhere, they could pull one in off the street if they wanted to probably.

You bet! The courthouse would be full of them.

Can notaries perform marriage ceremonies in Florida?

[KatyDid]

See, I don't get that. What happened to the minister that Ron was so close to?

I dunno. My first thought was Misty's age. Maybe the church has an issue with that. Just a thought.

[MrLucky917B]

Hold The Phone!!!

Media Reporting Wedding Postponed!!

*Thud*


http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Unreal, wonder how it will be before CNN mentions this... good thing I didn't drive over there

[crymeariver2006]

I'm just getting here, but if anybody can give me the cliff notes on a search?

[bama__angel]

I dunno. My first thought was Misty's age. Maybe the church has an issue with that. Just a thought.



I truly dont believe that Misty's age is an issue......There is something else.....

[Themis]

Yes, :thud: here too, especially about the part where they asked the funeral director to perform the wedding. :ohmy:
Dunn's Creek Baptist Church only issued a denial that a wedding is scheduled at their church today.

In the linked article the church was not named. I think people jumped to the conclusion that the wedding was at Dunn's because of its pastor being conneccted to the Cummings/Neves/Sykes contingent.

I do find it Watts' denial statement was curious. [JMO]

[Motomom]

I don't get it either bookie. One gets excused for everything she hasn't done right, the other gets hog tied to the fire pit for the same.
I personally don't believe, yet, that mom, dad, or Misty had anything to do with Haleigh being gone. Until something is proven by LE, I will stick to that.
jmo

I'm with you doneit..btw did you get the pm i sent you yesterday? :laugh:

I'm thinking maybe this cousin Joe does have something to do with Haleigh.

[playnice]

Is that the same minister who appeared side by side with Ron? The one that was on NG?

Oh, and o/t but I didn't think notaries could perform marriage ceremonies?

true. They cant.

[cloe23]

Where are people getting this direct information regarding this search?
Please? PM me if you want.

[ICE]

ok....I always feel like I'm on diff planet, but if you were getting married...would you not make sure all your ducks are in a row, ESPECIALLY the Church and Pastor BEFORE the wedding day???

[Themis]

Is that the same minister who appeared side by side with Ron? The one that was on NG?

Oh, and o/t but I didn't think notaries could perform marriage ceremonies?

Well, yeah, but .... they do a lot of things differently in that neck of the woods.:wink: [JMO]

[bama__angel]

ok....I always feel like I'm on diff planet, but if you were getting married...would you not make sure all your ducks are in a row, ESPECIALLY the Church and Pastor BEFORE the wedding day???



At the very least.....LOL

[playnice]

ok....I always feel like I'm on diff planet, but if you were getting married...would you not make sure all your ducks are in a row, ESPECIALLY the Church and Pastor BEFORE the wedding day???

They could just go to the court house or find a JP to marry them. So what is up?

[crymeariver2006]

100 LE from 8 different agencies walking along the rr tracks and in the brush along a road that leads to the are where Cousin Joe was staying. The police are saying it isn't the result of a tip, it's just a search that needed to be done....in a nutshell and paraphrased.

Thank you!

Kind of like the cadaver dogs weren't the result of a tip?

:wink:

(Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen anything so bass-ackwards in my life. The whole investigation. JMO)

[odyssey]

I dunno. My first thought was Misty's age. Maybe the church has an issue with that. Just a thought.

Do you think they may have received hate mail?
though, and perhaps I am naive, I would not think the pastor would lie about the reason there was no wedding?

I wrote someone a pm last night saying a theory i did not want made public until the day was over .. i am beginning to really think i may have been on the right track .. scary lol .. to get something right i mean haha

jmoo

[Themis]

ok....I always feel like I'm on diff planet, but if you were getting married...would you not make sure all your ducks are in a row, ESPECIALLY the Church and Pastor BEFORE the wedding day???
ICE: You took the words right out of my mouth!
Dang! This is a real tragedy for Misty; I wonder if she can still get a refund on the two (2) wedding dresses she bought for today's wedding? [JMO]

[Motomom]

Well as wrong as I think it is for any church to distance themselves from anyone for bad PR, that is what I think it is.

Could very well be Brat.

[Motomom]

Evidently the pastor at this Dumas Baptist Church asked that ant statements made that Ron and Misty were getting married at his church on Thursday March 12, 2009 be retracted.....Now that is unusual.....Dont you think?

I think so. all so strange on this day.. may this please be the day they find little Haleigh.

[MrLucky917B]

Dunns Creek Baptist Church emailed a statement to our newsroom stating that there is no wedding scheduled to take place on Thursday, March 12, 2009. The statement provided by Associate Pastor David Dixon asked that any announcements made regarding the Cummings-Croslin wedding at the church be retracted.

http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx

Is it possible that the media got it wrong and were assuming that the ceremony would be at Dunn's Creek and it is actually somewhere else and the wedding is still on or the E-mail sent to that station is bogus.

JMO

[KatyDid]

Do you think they may have received hate mail?
though, and perhaps I am naive, I would not think the pastor would lie about the reason there was no wedding?

I wrote someone a pm last night saying a theory i did not want made public until the day was over .. i am beginning to really think i may have been on the right track .. scary lol .. to get something right i mean haha

jmoo

I hadn't thought of that odyssey...about the hate mail. You could be on to something. I can't believe the church wasn't aware yesterday of a wedding being announced at their location.

[ICE]

Something is up. The urgency that Ron and Misty have to get married NOW is awfully suspicious. So they are gonna chase around for someone to marry them today?

[playnice]

If they didnt want the attention to begin with that is what they would have done. But instead they showed off a ring, provided a picture of the proposal, announced a white dress, and when & where it would happen. I think they clearly wanted the publicity. I guess & I hope it is true that Crystal and her attorney have them scared!

I think that is what this wedding is all about. They caught word about Crystal getting an attorney and they are worried about custody.
Misti is glowing but Ron just doesnt look that happy to me about marrying her.

[Themis]

The reports state Ron and Misty are trying to find someone else to marry them, searching for a person who can marry them. Wish they'd search for Haleigh with half that energy.:thumbdown:

I'm really tired of Teresa spouting off about how much Haleigh and Jr wanted Misty to be their mom, no wonder Crystal lawyered up to fight for custody. Misty will NEVER be their mom and Misty is the one who is ultimately responsible for not waking up or whatever her excuse is.

“Misty is actually fulfilling the wishes of Haleigh. Haleigh and Junior (Haleigh’s brother) have often talked about how they would love to have Misty for their Mommy. They’ve asked daddy several times why you don’t marry Misty?” http://www.cbs47.com/mostpopular/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx


If that's not bashing Crystal with tongue in cheek mode, I don't know what is and pretty much, shame on her. I see right through Teresa and I don't like what I see.
jmo
Bolded sentences are mine: I completely agree with you, 51Viking. She's been really :sneaky: since the early days. [JMO]

[KatyDid]

Something is up. The urgency that Ron and Misty have to get married NOW is awfully suspicious. So they are gonna chase around for someone to marry them today?

That is my thought too...the urgency about it. Something isn't right about that, imo.

[Motomom]

Yes Moto, I think its the church that's refusing to marry them. Didn't they approach the funeral director also? What a mess! They should just postpone it for awhile, this is just too much. It would elevate Ron in the public's eye to just delay this for awhile.

moo

Absolutely.. it would be best IMO to postpone for a LONG WHILE. So we dont' know if they are actively searching to get married TODAY still? Hopefully they aren't, especially with the news of the search. Ron needs someone to go talk to him I think. Someone other than MB posters has to see the problem with this marriage at this time. I have no problems with them getting married .. just not right now. Wait a little longer is MOO. He may need some sense slapped into him. I feel bad for him if he was/is doing this to find some sort of happiness, because it is not going to replace that hole in his heart.

[Motomom]

I truly dont believe that Misty's age is an issue......There is something else.....

An LE setup? maybe :w00t: To force someone's hand possibly?

[5boxersmom]

So yesterday LE comes and takes the storm door. Today they are searching along a road. What is up with this? Are they going through the many tips and that is what is leading to all of this?

I don't understand about the door. Why wasn't it taken to begin with? How many people have touched it since they released the home?

Then we have that strange press conference the other day.

I am :confused:

imo

[Texas48]

Wonder whats in that big bag on the table?
Party Favors...????

[Motomom]

100 LE from 8 different agencies walking along the rr tracks and in the brush along a road that leads to the are where Cousin Joe was staying. The police are saying it isn't the result of a tip, it's just a search that needed to be done....in a nutshell and paraphrased.

I'm not trying to be harsh on LE, I dont' want anyone to take it that way.. BUT WTHECK..why was it NOT searched yet? THey had Tim miller there.. yet he left and I'm not 100% positive why. THey should have used him until they could not use him any longer!! Where excactly did they search? That railroad shoudl have been searched, up and down, both ways to see if there was ANYTHING at all, such as throwing clothes out..anything..

[playnice]

Well George & Cindys crazy behavior with the hammer, garden hose, rotting pizza, squirrels and decomp kept Caylees case in the media for months. The media should be off and running with the latest developments the past couple of days. Maybe they will spend more time on Haleighs case.

[aproudmom]

Hold it tight... I didn't read that as postponed.. although I guess it is.. It said that they were looking for someone else to wed them didn't it? Do you think they are actively looking for today?? If it is because of the newest search, why not just say that? What's up with this, something isn't right.. do you think this church is refusing to marry them now?

Sounds like to me that they just wont marry them so they have to go search for a new place and someone that feels it is ok to marry a 17yr old.

[MrLucky917B]

well even shotgun weddings in Las Vegas take a degree of planning.:biggrin:

or a lot of drugs or booze..

Since CNN is still saying the wedding is on I think it will turn out to be a bogus E-mail sent to 1 station...

JMO

[Motomom]

Do you think they may have received hate mail?
though, and perhaps I am naive, I would not think the pastor would lie about the reason there was no wedding?

I wrote someone a pm last night saying a theory i did not want made public until the day was over .. i am beginning to really think i may have been on the right track .. scary lol .. to get something right i mean haha

jmoo

Man..what a tease Odyssey :sneaky: I'm waiting to hear your theory :w00t: and hopefully you will post it at days end... please :)

[aproudmom]

I'm not trying to be harsh on LE, I dont' want anyone to take it that way.. BUT WTHECK..why was it NOT searched yet? THey had Tim miller there.. yet he left and I'm not 100% positive why. THey should have used him until they could not use him any longer!! Where excactly did they search? That railroad shoudl have been searched, up and down, both ways to see if there was ANYTHING at all, such as throwing clothes out..anything..

yeah I agree what are they thinking I said they searched way to fast

[KatyDid]

From the church's website:

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/

statement at this link states they are not involved with the marriage...

[Speedy30]

I dunno. My first thought was Misty's age. Maybe the church has an issue with that. Just a thought.

Thank heavens! I hope Misty does not marry Ron.

jmo

[Texas48]

Misty being giddy over how much attention her engagement has gotten. You know not many girls get their ring, and engagement picture moment shown all over national TV. I am sure she is very proud. barflol Bratlings..I think my favorite statement so far is from Misty at the court house..NOT exact wording..I was at home cause I passed my LDT......and......I know not everybody is gona take this wedding thingy the right way but.........Its not funny but I had to laugh when I heard her interview...Gotta love real life.:rolleyes:

[Motomom]

Something is up. The urgency that Ron and Misty have to get married NOW is awfully suspicious. So they are gonna chase around for someone to marry them today?

As much as I support Ron, I do get the impression that he is one that isn't easy to reason with sometimes. I have a sister like this.. Oh boy... try getting someone like that to take the smallest piece of advice is a chore..if not impossible. IMO

[ICE]

I think we are giving this LE too much credit to think everything that happens is a setup, or staged to find Haleigh's abducter. I don't think they have anything. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Zippo. The goose egg.

[MrLucky917B]

From the church's website:

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/

statement at this link states they are not involved with the marriage...

I have to retract my bogus E-mail thought:confused:

[Themis]

I'm not trying to be harsh on LE, I dont' want anyone to take it that way.. BUT WTHECK..why was it NOT searched yet? THey had Tim miller there.. yet he left and I'm not 100% positive why. THey should have used him until they could not use him any longer!! Where excactly did they search? That railroad shoudl have been searched, up and down, both ways to see if there was ANYTHING at all, such as throwing clothes out..anything..
Motomom: What's that old saying? "Too many cooks spoil the broth." ?

It is beginning to sound as if their were coordination problems in the original search.

I've read that there were (are) at least 15 different agencies involved.

This might be another occasion where I can use the phrase:

It's like herding cats. [JMO]

[Jpanda]

I think we are giving this LE too much credit to think everything that happens is a setup, or staged to find Haleigh's abducter. I don't think they have anything. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Zippo. The goose egg.

Unfortunately, I agree with this too.

jmo

[ICE]

Is everybody but me at home watching tv?:mad:

I'm at work scanning this board. ERRRRR...I mean...I'm working really hard and OCCASSIONALLY looking here.:rolleyes:

[bama__angel]

I think we are giving this LE too much credit to think everything that happens is a setup, or staged to find Haleigh's abducter. I don't think they have anything. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Zippo. The goose egg.



I think you may be right.......And how in the he!! does a 5 year old child vanish without any trace and no one sees or hears anything??Could her kidnapper have been that organized and smart?

[Texas48]

So yesterday LE comes and takes the storm door. Today they are searching along a road. What is up with this? Are they going through the many tips and that is what is leading to all of this?

I don't understand about the door. Why wasn't it taken to begin with? How many people have touched it since they released the home?

Then we have that strange press conference the other day.

I am :confused:

imo
That was a PRESS Conference?? Thanks for clearing that up for me boxermom.:confused:

[MrLucky917B]

Is everybody but me at home watching tv?:mad:

Sure looks like it, today is a double header, Casey in Court and the wedding..

[Motomom]

I think that is what this wedding is all about. They caught word about Crystal getting an attorney and they are worried about custody.
Misti is glowing but Ron just doesnt look that happy to me about marrying her.

I see the same thing play. Also does not look happy in that proposal picture either. Neither one of them did, but moreso him. I dont' know why they thought this would make it better if it's about the custody. He was able to get custody before.. It's easier to keep then get I believe.

[FoxySly]

I wonder if the new spokesperson or lawyer suggested this...I doubt either one thought the numerous accusations on National Television was good move.

No, I don't think so as the story was dated Feb. 19 IIRC.

Sly

~

[kitty1182]

I think you may be right.......And how in the he!! does a 5 year old child vanish without any trace and no one sees or hears anything??Could her kidnapper have been that organized and smart?

Maybe she wasn't really kidnapped...:wink:

[Motomom]

You got it!! The subtle, underlining comments, about wanting Misty to be their mom, was just another effort on Theresa's part to continue enabling Ron, and an insult to who really is Haleigh's and Junior's mom, for eternity. Misty will never be the mom, in the truest sense, no matter how Theresa wants it.

moo

I do think it's a dig and a purposeful one at that. Or it could be retaliation on her part too.

[Themis]

As much as I support Ron, I do get the impression that he is one that isn't easy to reason with sometimes. I have a sister like this.. Oh boy... try getting someone like that to take the smallest piece of advice is a chore..if not impossible. IMO
Motomom: I hear you. There are just some people in life who when making choices always, always, make the wrong one.

At the heart of it I keep hearing/seeing Ron saying outside the tattoo parlor:

"Nobody leaves me alone to do what I want to do."

[kitty1182]

Sure looks like it, today is a double header, Casey in Court and the wedding..

LOL...I hope the wedding isn't at 3:30........:laugh:

[KatyDid]

whoa just jumps right off the page at you, pretty harsh

yup, they want it made clear they are not associated with the marriage, imo.

[playnice]

Sadly I am starting to believe the same thing. From the dumpster fiasco, to not searching long enough, to stating they are no closer to finding Haleigh then they were on day 1, to the removal of the door yesterday. But how can they screw it up if they have FBI and other agencies working with them? Could all of them really have botched it that bad? I hope not.

jmo

And something happened to the DNA didnt it?

[CANDYKISSES]

It's Haleigh's father, somehow I think there's a connection. Posters should use common sense when discussing it and not make a joke of it on the 'tragic' event.

I'm glad you weighed in, as the derogatory commentary, snickering about anything from doggie bags in the engagement photo, to joking about registering at the Dollar Store, to questioning statements by the grandmother concerning the ring being a family heirloom, and of course needing to know if the dress is a donation too.... seem to generate laughter IMO. If it's not yucking it up at a low key wedding then it moves to accusing them of spending monies donated with no proof whatsoever IMO.

:sad:

[Texas48]

I'm not trying to be harsh on LE, I dont' want anyone to take it that way.. BUT WTHECK..why was it NOT searched yet? THey had Tim miller there.. yet he left and I'm not 100% positive why. THey should have used him until they could not use him any longer!! Where excactly did they search? That railroad shoudl have been searched, up and down, both ways to see if there was ANYTHING at all, such as throwing clothes out..anything..How long did it take LE to search the dumpsters? TN said she had requested/suggested it several times...???

[aproudmom]

I truly dont believe that Misty's age is an issue......There is something else.....

I have to disagree alot of people will not marry someone of that age and they may also feel they are not in their right state of mind with Haleigh being missing. I wouldn't they need counsling imo

[ICE]

I think you may be right.......And how in the he!! does a 5 year old child vanish without any trace and no one sees or hears anything??Could her kidnapper have been that organized and smart?


I have my doubts, but maybe the "perfect crime" was pulled off in ol' Satsuma, Florida.

[Texas48]

Well George & Cindys crazy behavior with the hammer, garden hose, rotting pizza, squirrels and decomp kept Caylees case in the media for months. The media should be off and running with the latest developments the past couple of days. Maybe they will spend more time on Haleighs case.Be careful for what you wish for...3 days ago I posted we needed more juice in this case as it was getting so slow and even media did not seem interested..the next day Ron popped the question and down on one knee. Today they are getting married..WITHOUT HALEIGH..WTH..

[bama__angel]

I'm glad you weighed in, as the derogatory commentary, snickering about anything from doggie bags in the engagement photo, to joking about registering at the Dollar Store, to questioning statements by the grandmother concerning the ring being a family heirloom, and of course needing to know if the dress is a donation too.... seem to generate laughter IMO. If it's not yucking it up at a low key wedding then it moves to accusing them of spending monies donated with no proof whatsoever IMO.

:sad:


I find it amusing when we who like to believe we are very classy and so high above others make remarks about victims or players in a tragedy like this that are just "tasteless" and "spiteful"........

[Motomom]

I agree.

When the dogs stopped at those tracks the first thing LE should have done was walk those tracks.

What time and type of train runs through there? Anyone know? Were the trains stopped? our train comes through same round about time every day and night.

[5boxersmom]

I missed the press conference...what happen?

They upped the reward by $8000. Total $35000. LE talked about how great they were and patted everyone on the back. Ron said I love ya baby, Crystal cried. Then they released balloons.

:biggrin:

imo

[kitty1182]

They upped the reward by $8000. Total $35000. LE talked about how great they were and patted everyone on the back. Ron said I love ya baby, Crystal cried. Then they released balloons.

:biggrin:

imo

And a guy sung a song...

[5boxersmom]

And a guy sung a song...

Oh yes. I forgot that. Thanks.

[Themis]

"I beg to differ. Cats can be herded, directed, and made to do all sorts of interesting stuff, like synchronized dancing. What is required is an adjustment of perception by the person who wishes to do so, and a basic understanding of cat psychology."

http://www.sunfell.com/herding.htm

:lol:

I dont know why that many LE agencies on hand didnt think of it sooner. For shame!
Thank you, Bratlings, I needed that. I really did. As a long time feline aficianado your link gave me just the lift I needed today.

[FoxySly]

Yeah ... well with regard to Marie Griffis apology, FoxySly, you cannot un-ring that bell can you?

As for angry ex-wives and such flooding the tip line with phony tips, it's a shame they won't/cannot be tracked down and fined at least $100 for wasting LE's precious time where Haleigh's very life is at stake.:cursing: [JMO]

Nope, they can't un-ring that bell they so loudly banged on but still this is lots better than to keep banging.

Yup, I too wish there was a $100. fine on all those bitter women!!!
And that money going to LE, searchers or reward.

Dang it!!! There sure are LOTS of bitter women IMO with all those calls!!!

Sly

~

[Texas48]

From the church's website:

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/

statement at this link states they are not involved with the marriage...
That has got to be the strangest comment I have ever read especially posted by the Church...I have to wounder why they felt the need to make that statement..?? I am really confused now.

[ICE]

I'm not sure anyone is out there saying "As soon as the reward hits 50,000, I'm going to LE!".

[bama__angel]

What time and type of train runs through there? Anyone know? Were the trains stopped? our train comes through same round about time every day and night.



I thought about trains......IMO it would be difficult to slide the doors open, and get in a car with Haleigh with the train going 50 -55 MPH..
Unless of course Satsuma is a stop for a cargo train...........I dont know.......

[bama__angel]

It is not yours or Candyk's place to be admonishing anyone, move on and knock off the grandiose attitude. This stuff is OT. Back to Haleigh which you and candy so often state this thread should be about...


Does anyone know where the link is to that full length press conference is by the Justice coalition? I havent been able to find it.



If I were talking to you I would have said to Brat ok...

[Motomom]

Motomom: I hear you. There are just some people in life who when making choices always, always, make the wrong one.

At the heart of it I keep hearing/seeing Ron saying outside the tattoo parlor:

"Nobody leaves me alone to do what I want to do."

Not to be O/T.. course it is.. my sister was given advice in regards to a house, and a marriage. Over and over by numerous people. (two houses not one mind you) STILL did she learn her lesson? No. I hear, I should have listened to you and everyone else.. Riiiiigghttt. Guess what, now the situation is huge and although she says we were right..she's starting to do the same things all over again LOL It's a never ending circle. they have to fall flat on their face before they truely learn anything at all. Misty looks full of glee to me and Ron does not.. yet they are going to go ahead with this marriage. Maybe Ron thinks this is better for him and there is no telling him otherwise?

[MrLucky917B]

What time and type of train runs through there? Anyone know? Were the trains stopped? our train comes through same round about time every day and night.

2 passenger, 1 auto train and various freight trains use that route daily, the 1st stop north is Palatka and south is Deland.

[ICE]

After reading the Church sites comment, I got the impression that they are trying to distance themselves for Ron and Misty. JMO.

[bama__angel]

2 passenger, 1 auto train and various freight trains use that route daily, the 1st stop north is Palatka and south is Deland.



Auto Train..............Now that's interesting.............Do you know the time MrLucky?

[CANDYKISSES]

An LE setup? maybe :w00t: To force someone's hand possibly?

What are you thinking there motomom?:confused:

[Texas48]

A brief message from Dunn Street Church

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/Good to see you still here..I was about to ask what happened to you. Worried me there for a minute..Vanishing without a trace and all...KWIM..lol Glad your fingers are still working Swar.

[aproudmom]

I think that is what this wedding is all about. They caught word about Crystal getting an attorney and they are worried about custody.
Misti is glowing but Ron just doesnt look that happy to me about marrying her.

You may have just hit the nail on the head I never thought of that. huh

[sammy]

The reports state Ron and Misty are trying to find someone else to marry them, searching for a person who can marry them. Wish they'd search for Haleigh with half that energy.:thumbdown:

I'm really tired of Teresa spouting off about how much Haleigh and Jr wanted Misty to be their mom, no wonder Crystal lawyered up to fight for custody. Misty will NEVER be their mom and Misty is the one who is ultimately responsible for not waking up or whatever her excuse is.

“Misty is actually fulfilling the wishes of Haleigh. Haleigh and Junior (Haleigh’s brother) have often talked about how they would love to have Misty for their Mommy. They’ve asked daddy several times why you don’t marry Misty?” http://www.cbs47.com/mostpopular/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx


If that's not bashing Crystal with tongue in cheek mode, I don't know what is and pretty much, shame on her. I see right through Teresa and I don't like what I see.

jmo

It seems I am always at least a page behind in reading everyone's posts ... this board moves fast. :smile:
But I am in total agreement with your thoughts here 51viking.
Great post.

This is total baloney that Ron + Misti are trying to pull this wedding fiasco b/c it is "fulfilling the wishes of what Haliegh + Jr. wanted." :thumbdown:

TN has her motives ... covering up for her lil' boy Ronnie. She has probably been covering his tracks and cleaning up the messes he has got himself into for years. JMO
Her comments yesterday + today about those kids wanting Misti to be their Mommy is totally insulting to Crystal - and she knows it. (again JMO).
Those children have a Mommy, and I am so pleased that Crystal has sought legal help.

[penguinlady]

You bet! The courthouse would be full of them.

Can notaries perform marriage ceremonies in Florida?

This has probably been answered several times already...but yes, notaries can perform marraige ceremonies in Florida. I am a notary AND I was married by a notary.

K

[aproudmom]

Mistys Mom signed something so it would be legal.

Does anyone know when Mistys birthday is?

december i think

[Speedy30]

yup, they want it made clear they are not associated with the marriage, imo.

Can Misty Croslin be put in foster care still?

[MrLucky917B]

Auto Train..............Now that's interesting.............Do you know the time MrLucky?

From recall the southbounds go through between 10- 12 in the morning and the northbounds are between 6-8 in the evening, don't know what time the auto train goes through.

http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/Schedules_Page

[Speedy30]

It seems I am always at least a page behind in reading everyone's posts ... this board moves fast. :smile:
But I am in total agreement with your thoughts here 51viking.
Great post.

This is total baloney that Ron + Misti are trying to pull this wedding fiasco b/c it is "fulfilling the wishes of what Haliegh + Jr. wanted." :thumbdown:

TN has her motives ... covering up for her lil' boy Ronnie. She has probably been covering his tracks and cleaning up the messes he has got himself into for years. JMO
Her comments yesterday + today about those kids wanting Misti to be their Mommy is totally insulting to Crystal - and she knows it. (again JMO).
Those children have a Mommy, and I am so pleased that Crystal has sought legal help.

What a great post, and in reality it seems like Ron Cummings has a mother much like Casey Anthony.

jmo

[ICE]

I Like Ron's mom.

I Don't Like Ron.

I like Crystal.

I Don't like Crystals mom.

I didn't think either way about Misty until last week. I Don't like Misty.

I've always been really good at judging people after reading them.

Interesting how the dad's are so silent.

[Themis]

That has got to be the strangest comment I have ever read especially posted by the Church...I have to wounder why they felt the need to make that statement..?? I am really confused now.
Because they have been--and are being hounded by dozens and dozens of media reps?

Personally, I think their unequivocal statement is due to their staunch congregation members having made their disapproval known to the pastor, assistant pastor, deacons, etc.

I could be wrong, but I just don't see Ron and Misty as attending weekly services.

I'm thinking it most likely the connection with Dunn's Baptist church as more of a Neves and/or Sykes connection. [JMO]

[bama__angel]

Can Misty Croslin be put in foster care still?


She could possibly be charged as a truant or an ungovernable......Maybe placed in a group home........I dont know about foster care because of her age...........My opinion is that she would run away from wherever she was......And I dont even know if she could be charged as a truant because legally I think she could quit school at 16 ......

[Texas48]

The reports state Ron and Misty are trying to find someone else to marry them, searching for a person who can marry them. Wish they'd search for Haleigh with half that energy.:thumbdown:

I'm really tired of Teresa spouting off about how much Haleigh and Jr wanted Misty to be their mom, no wonder Crystal lawyered up to fight for custody. Misty will NEVER be their mom and Misty is the one who is ultimately responsible for not waking up or whatever her excuse is.

“Misty is actually fulfilling the wishes of Haleigh. Haleigh and Junior (Haleigh’s brother) have often talked about how they would love to have Misty for their Mommy. They’ve asked daddy several times why you don’t marry Misty?” http://www.cbs47.com/mostpopular/story/Cummings-Marriage-Postponed/qI5s7C_ZJU2s1zjxplaNig.cspx


If that's not bashing Crystal with tongue in cheek mode, I don't know what is and pretty much, shame on her. I see right through Teresa and I don't like what I see.

jmo

ITA with your post. All the talk about the children wanting this wedding and such has to be hurting Crystal. No wounder she and her mom seemed to on the defensive from early on. My quess would be Crystal and mom not welcomed with open arms from TN and family..JMO

[Motomom]

2 passenger, 1 auto train and various freight trains use that route daily, the 1st stop north is Palatka and south is Deland.

Thanks Mr lucky..

[penguinlady]

I'm at work scanning this board. ERRRRR...I mean...I'm working really hard and OCCASSIONALLY looking here.:rolleyes:


Me too! :read:

K

[ICE]

I totally agree..........at first i was really trying to defend Ronald and Misty but now with this quickie wedding and everything i've started to see them in a new light.

Well it's about time! We have been waiting for you over here on the Dark side....:smile:

Ron and Misty make it hard to believe in them.

[Speedy30]

Ok, I have a question.

Now when Haleigh disappeared, all three of them, Jr, Misty and Haleigh were all sleeping in the same room, why?

How many bedrooms does this place have?

[ICE]

Funny you should mention the husbands. From personal experience I have noticed that when the wives are so outspoken the men have nothing left to say. I dont like any of these people. I would not befriend a single one.

Yeah, that does seem to be that way it is with men and women.

[bama__angel]

Funny you should mention the husbands. From personal experience I have noticed that when the wives are so outspoken the men have nothing left to say. I dont like any of these people. I would not befriend a single one.

But you know I dont see Crystal as being outspoken.....Maybe her mom...I think Crystal has been pushed around her whole life...

And I agree....I dont like any of these people

[CANDYKISSES]

Why do you keep telling us about your marriage? How does that apply to most of the general public? For the majority of people it does not work like that and exceptions are not representative of this situation.

Not emdragon, but I will weigh in.

Could it be the same reason you use with posters as stated in post #75 on this link?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12870524&highlight=lost+child#post12870524


:confused: Your offensive posts directed at individuals who offer experience and insight contrary to your beliefs are not appreciated or necessary IMO, but alas that is JUST MY OPINION and I am entitled to it just as you are yours.

I believe the moderator offered guidelines concerning the joking and snarky commentary regarding a wedding on a missing child's thread, so you can't blame me for your failure to read what is posted here by her. :sneaky:

Big search and a door taken, yet LE says this is not the result of any tips. Interesting to say the least IMO.

[missinglink]

thank you.........

wow that does sound strange.

5boxersmom explained it well, in a nutshell that's what happened.

But by reading your reply, I hope you don't think Ron was telling Crystal he loved her! LOL.

Ron was telling Haleigh that he loved her. Then Crystal was next up to talk.

(Maybe you took it the right way...just didn't think Ron was referring to Crystal) :tonguewag:

[Motomom]

What are you thinking there motomom?:confused:

I have no idea Candy.. none.. I'm trying to make sense of it all, trying to come up with different theories is all.. I thought maybe this wedding was to get misty comfortable.. maybe it is to give the impression that they are moving on.. and whoever has haleigh (if she's alive) may slip and bring her out somewhere to be notices. Then today I think they got a tip. I don't think they are searching just to search today. I'm also curioius as to what Le's opinion is on this wedding, if they have one.

[bama__angel]

But you know I dont see Crystal as being outspoken.....Maybe her mom...I think Crystal has been pushed around her whole life...

And I agree....I dont like any of these people

Amending above......It's not that I dont like them.........I truly dont understand why these people have not tried to provide more for their children......That I will never understand.....so its hard for me to see them in a good way.....

[Owlface]

Just as coincidental as a little girl going missing at the same time a mom is being hauled into court about back child support payments.

As has been pointed out before - not having to pay child support is a poor motive for doing away with one of the children. She'll always owe the back child support and will still have to pay child support for Jr. Child support for one child compared to two is not a whole lot less.

[caphill]

I wonder if the screen door was taken to try to attempt to get some forensics from the screen. Maybe it was a mesh screen that might capture some skin cells or oil.

Maybe there is private place where the marriage is being preformed to avoid the media hounds and the curiosity seekers.

[penguinlady]

Just a weird thing here.

The day Caylee was found, CA was in court and the Anthony's were in Cali after being on Larry King. Posters found that odd.

Today is the day of "the wedding" and there is a large search going on. We are finding that odd...

Just a weird coincidence (if you want to call it that). IMO

K

[bama__angel]

I wonder if the screen door was taken to try to attempt to get some forensics from the screen. Maybe it was a mesh screen that might capture some skin cells or oil.

Maybe there is private place where the marriage is being preformed to avoid the media hounds and the curiosity seekers.



I dont have a link for this.....but IIRC Teresa said yesterday that the media wouldnt be invited to the wedding....It was private but that Ron and MIsty would speak to the media after the wedding.....IMO

[ICE]

I wonder if the screen door was taken to try to attempt to get some forensics from the screen. Maybe it was a mesh screen that might capture some skin cells or oil.

Maybe there is private place where the marriage is being preformed to avoid the media hounds and the curiosity seekers.


I betcha those screen prints would have been fresher 4 weeks ago.

[Leather&Lace]

Just getting in and checking the board for updates.

One thing for sure, LE could have arranged to search that area yesterday but are doing the foot search today. What? A coincident the search is taking place on the wedding day? ummm, I don't think so. If nothing else, it helps put the focus back where it belongs and that is a missing Haleigh!

Wonder if the foot search will have an affect on anyone attending the nuptials? That includes the wedding couple.
I remain flabbergasted.

[CANDYKISSES]

That has got to be the strangest comment I have ever read especially posted by the Church...I have to wounder why they felt the need to make that statement..?? I am really confused now.

A possibility is due to requirements of the church to be married there IMO.

IE - IF you want to get married in some churches, you must attend services regularly for at least six months, go to marriage encounter classes for six weeks, have your intentions announced a certain number of times in a weekly bulletin, and both be confirmed in that particular faith. :unsure:

Again, that is just a possibility and if they have requirements, it would send a bad message to others trying to get a variance on the terms set by the church IMO.

[Themis]

Not to be O/T.. course it is.. my sister was given advice in regards to a house, and a marriage. Over and over by numerous people. (two houses not one mind you) STILL did she learn her lesson? No. I hear, I should have listened to you and everyone else.. Riiiiigghttt. Guess what, now the situation is huge and although she says we were right..she's starting to do the same things all over again LOL It's a never ending circle. they have to fall flat on their face before they truely learn anything at all. Misty looks full of glee to me and Ron does not.. yet they are going to go ahead with this marriage. Maybe Ron thinks this is better for him and there is no telling him otherwise? Bolding is mine.
Actually, Motomom, I don't agree with the question you pose.
Ron's history does not show he is the marrying kind of man. I don't think he wants to marry Misty now.
I think he has enjoyed having Misty living with him for the past several months for all the obvious reasons.

I think his mother and probably his grandmother, Sykes, are behind the scenes pushing for the wedding. I think they believe it will help improve the 'family image.'

[Motomom]

But you know I dont see Crystal as being outspoken.....Maybe her mom...I think Crystal has been pushed around her whole life...

And I agree....I dont like any of these people

I dont' care for Crystal's mother at all! She gave me bad vibes from the get go to be honest.

[Leather&Lace]

HLN keeps showing the pictures from Chili's when Ron proposed to Misty. They show the one picture we have all seen, Ron on bended knee, but then they show a wider angle which includes a picture of Jr (Hey! I thought they were above showing Jr.'s picture? Something, something fear or Jr being abducted, scared for his safety, etc.?) Anyway, there is Jr, cute as can be and then another child by Jr. Has anyone else seen it? Do you know who this child is? TIA!

moo


HLN just flashed that picture and I thought the same thing. What? There is Ronald Junior in the picture big as day. I have no idea who the other child is attending the birthday & popping the question party.

JMO

[playnice]

I dont' care for Crystal's mother at all! She gave me bad vibes from the get go to be honest.

She does me too. I dont know why but I get bad vibes from her too.
I do believe that she has way too much control over Crystal, is domineering and Crystal cant stand up to her.

[Texas48]

Try to stay on topic, this is about Haleigh. :thumbsup:My compliments Bratlings...Calm..cool..collective..moving forward. :thumbsup:

[Leather&Lace]

I dont' care for Crystal's mother at all! She gave me bad vibes from the get go to be honest.


Crystal's mom, Marie, seems to be a very intrusive mother. I thought that right off the bat when Haleigh was first reported missing. With 3 children, one would think that Crystal could do her own talking. Then, when Marie started the mud slinging and bashing, it really put her in an unfavorable light with me. So, IA.

JMO

[Motomom]

Did CW give you her job???

Does anyone know for sure if the wedding is on or not?? I do wish they would hold off for now, but thats just me.

**done** Cw was here not that long ago and it's ironic that after she leaves, the mood changes again LOL HLN is still saying the wedding is on.. so I am not sure. I wish they would hold off too... o/t 1 hour till the Casey show

[catdoc]

What a great post, and in reality it seems like Ron Cummings has a mother much like Casey Anthony.

jmo

This is so over the top wrong, Imo. TN has nothing to resemble even remotely Cindy Anthony. It's all in your imagination, apparently-unless you can post some links of her lying, or calling her son the Father of the year, or attacking the media as maggots or destrying evidence.

[Leather&Lace]

The sisters child probably.

You are most likely right about the other child being a family member.

I'll give the people of this family one thing, they have adorable children.

JMO

[ICE]

I wish they would get married already and move on to finding Haleigh!

[CANDYKISSES]

I have no idea Candy.. none.. I'm trying to make sense of it all, trying to come up with different theories is all.. I thought maybe this wedding was to get misty comfortable.. maybe it is to give the impression that they are moving on.. and whoever has haleigh (if she's alive) may slip and bring her out somewhere to be notices. Then today I think they got a tip. I don't think they are searching just to search today. I'm also curioius as to what Le's opinion is on this wedding, if they have one.

I am curious too Motomom, but still think maybe it's more about the public outcry concerning the living situation. JMO tho.

Given that Florida does not recognize retro-active spousal privilege, I'm at a loss as to what other motive outside of a possible pregnancy regarding a motive for marriage.

Maybe Misty's mother is being honest about all the derogatory remarks being made about her daughter. Somehow I doubt that's the case, but it's possible just like many other scenarios IMO. After all, if the law came calling, the first place would be a visit to Misty's parents via Social Services inquiring about a minor child and from there, it could get ugly for all of them IMOO. :sad:

Meanwhile, it appears this is the highest number of persons on foot searching in an organized effort in quite some time. Coincidental???

Maybe, maybe not. I continue to pray for a miracle and that Haleigh is returned to her family in the best of health. JMO:wub:

[Speedy30]

Interesting about that phone ringer, does sound like a clock.

[Leather&Lace]

:wub: Hello my friend!

Great point. Even through we do not know for sure, I'd lay bets that everyone involved in this case has a cell phone. We can only hope that LE has already pulled the records of those cell users.
In fact, I am confident that LE has done that and continues to monitor pings and calls.

JMO

[FoxySly]

I have to disagree alot of people will not marry someone of that age and they may also feel they are not in their right state of mind with Haleigh being missing. I wouldn't they need counsling imo

A MOST EXCELLENT POINT!!!

Sly

~

[caphill]

I betcha those screen prints would have been fresher 4 weeks ago.

I didn't speak of fingerprints. I would think fingerprints from a screen would difficult. It might be possible to collect DNA from the oil of a finger or palm touching the screen.

This new touch DNA advancement might be a possibility. The problem with that screen door is how many people have touched it over the last months. It is a possibility the LE is looking for fine body hair that is not visible to eye.

This is just my speculation as I have no clue as to why the LE is taking that door at this late date.

[KKKKKKatie]

Snipped



Good? He would have to be a miracle worker.

Crystal is still $4000 + behind on court ordered child support payments.
She still has no job.....which means no insurance for the kids.

I hate to break it to you, but unless and until Ron and/or Misty are found guilty of some wrong doing concerning Haleigh, those kids are not going to be returned to a dead-beat mother.

IF in fact this attorney has signed on for that reason. IF...which I doubt.

IIRC he is simply a "spokesman"

Before you jump on Ron's preference for young girls getting him locked up and his children removed from his home.......a family member would need to file a complaint first.

I don't see that happening. IMHO


I don't think it is true that someone can only be charged/locked up if a parent files a complaint IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Did CW give you her job???

Does anyone know for sure if the wedding is on or not?? I do wish they would hold off for now, but thats just me.

Amazing, isn't it?

I don't think anyone knows for sure about the wedding being on or off at this point, but the church has made a statement FWIW. I say FWIW because it could be more related to policy in my opinion only. Just reflecting on the policy of our local churches.

:sad:JMO

[Owlface]

I have my doubts, but maybe the "perfect crime" was pulled off in ol' Satsuma, Florida.


"Perfect crimes" are committed all the time. Many, many, many people get away with, well, murder, and never get caught. My son's murderer has, so far.

[cat3]

As has been pointed out before - not having to pay child support is a poor motive for doing away with one of the children. She'll always owe the back child support and will still have to pay child support for Jr. Child support for one child compared to two is not a whole lot less.

She won't have to pay child support if she gets custody of Ron Jr. and it looks like it's heading in that direction per her attorney on NG last night.
Having said that,I don't think Crystal had anything to do with Haleigh being missing.I have had a few doubts/thoughts about her boyfriend Chad.
I also don't think Ron had anything to do with Haleigh being missing.
I don't trust Misty though.Just because of her attitude,and she was the last person,that we know of that saw Haleigh.

[ICE]

"Perfect crimes" are committed all the time. Many, many, many people get away with, well, murder, and never get caught. My son's murderer has, so far.

Sorry for your loss Owl. :sad:

[caphill]

Interesting about that phone ringer, does sound like a clock.


Who's phone has a ringer that sounds like a clock?

[Leather&Lace]

"Perfect crimes" are committed all the time. Many, many, many people get away with, well, murder, and never get caught. My son's murderer has, so far.


ITA Owlface

For those who do not believe this, just go to the Exploited & Missing Children's site and look at the hundred's of faces of children missing.
One can also read about the cold cases where the murderer has not been identified. It is possible.

So sorry about your son. Prayers.

[Speedy30]

Who's phone has a ringer that sounds like a clock?

Ron or Geraldos, and when it started chiming, Ron looked down and appears to make his phone silent.

jmo

[Motomom]

Interesting about that phone ringer, does sound like a clock.

I think it is the clock in the persons house who is taping the geraldo show.

[Owlface]

It seems I am always at least a page behind in reading everyone's posts ... this board moves fast. :smile:
But I am in total agreement with your thoughts here 51viking.
Great post.

This is total baloney that Ron + Misti are trying to pull this wedding fiasco b/c it is "fulfilling the wishes of what Haliegh + Jr. wanted." :thumbdown:

TN has her motives ... covering up for her lil' boy Ronnie. She has probably been covering his tracks and cleaning up the messes he has got himself into for years. JMO
Her comments yesterday + today about those kids wanting Misti to be their Mommy is totally insulting to Crystal - and she knows it. (again JMO).
Those children have a Mommy, and I am so pleased that Crystal has sought legal help.


Not to mention the fact - Why the heck would anybody think it is rational to allow a 5 year old to dictate who and when 2 adults (kind of) marry?

[caphill]

HLN says they will be covering the Casey Anthony gig live. So hopefully someone local will cover the wedding.

I fully believe that if Crystal goes back to court to fight for custody, she will be rewarded at least with joint custody, if not full custody. With this new attorney, it will be a cake walk.

jmo


Joint custody doesn't work for children in school and parents that live miles apart.

[crymeariver2006]

Interesting about that phone ringer, does sound like a clock.


:ohmy:

Whose phone was that?

[awareness]

It couldn't be the one that has been speculated about, the other child Ron may be a father to? I have no idea.

jmo

Ron has a child with Amber as well, a young baby boy IIRC. Misty commented on Amber's myspace page, there's a link to her comments in the "Links Only" thread on Haleigh's page here at IS. Her comments were really catty and rude IMO stuff like "I got your man, I will get your baby" (not verbatim).

Misty IMO will be pregnant ASAP. The wedding is in poor taste, its just too soon.

Im glad Crystal got an attorney, I hope she can really help her get the custody she needs. Crystal seems like she's been bullied a lot, with her Mom, Ron, seems really timid. Hope the new attorney can help be an advocate for her, so she can be the nurturing mom she is. Honestly I dont think the kids should be with Ron and Misty. And i think it set a bad example to them to get sexually involved with a MINOR.
JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

:ohmy:

Whose phone was that?


Wasn't it reported as the sound of a g/f clock? Didn't sound like that to me.

Don't know whose phone it was

[KatyDid]

Sorry, that was my post about the ringer sounding like a clock. I was looking at some video and heard it on the video. I thought it was coming from a cell phone in the interview. I listened again, and don't believe it is. I listened to another youtube of the same interview and it is not there.

I deleted the post, but too late before comments.

My apologies. :unsure:

[crymeariver2006]

Ron or Geraldos, and when it started chiming, Ron looked down and appears to make his phone silent.

jmo


Creeeeeeepy!

:w00t:

[sickntired]

Interesting about that phone ringer, does sound like a clock.

Yes that is interesting and a good catch to whomever posted this (I can't find that post now???) I think someone should send this info to LE since they were trying to track down that noise with the neighbor. It must mean something to them.

[Owlface]

I totally agree. I was once of the belief that maybe she was genuinely hurting but now I see someone who is genuinely hurting but also spiteful and conniving. Then I start to believe even more so that she was behind the tricks that Ron pulled on Crystal in the custody case.

Bolding mine - Whoa! I hadn't thought of that angle - that Misty was encouraging Ron to get custody. Considering that Ron and Misty met 'cause Misty didn't feel the child she was babysitting was being cared for properly I really think you may be on to something. Hmmm

[caphill]

I think it is the clock in the persons house who is taping the geraldo show.


I am still confused. Where is anyone hearing anything that sounds like a clock?

[Speedy30]

:ohmy:

Whose phone was that?

Someone said they thought it was whoever was taping the episode, maybe, I guess we would have to see two different airings of that clip, to me it makes the sound, and Ron looks down, and then its done, you think something in the home would continue?

[KKKKKKatie]

Sorry, that was my post about the ringer sounding like a clock. I was looking at some video and heard it on the video. I thought it was coming from a cell phone in the interview. I listened again, and don't believe it is. I listened to another youtube of the same interview and it is not there.

I deleted the post, but too late before comments.

My apologies. :unsure:

No prob Katy :biggrin:

[Motomom]

Sorry, that was my post about the ringer sounding like a clock. I was looking at some video and heard it on the video. I thought it was coming from a cell phone in the interview. I listened again, and don't believe it is. I listened to another youtube of the same interview and it is not there.

I deleted the post, but too late before comments.

My apologies. :unsure:

No need to apologize katy.

[playnice]

I hope someday soon we are fighting like crazy over who will be getting custody of Haleigh.

:thumbsup:Post of the day.

[teresa]

I hope someday soon we are fighting like crazy over who will be getting custody of Haleigh.

Amen ICE. I'm still holding out for a miracle. I'm really worried about this search today.

[Motomom]

I am still confused. Where is anyone hearing anything that sounds like a clock?

Katy deleted the post. The ringer sound was coming from the home that was taping the geraldo show, using a camera, not recording from their cable. So you can hear their noises as well sometimes. I was watching one the other day and didn't realize how it was being recorded and was freaked out when I started hearing what sounded like a small child LOL.

[crymeariver2006]

Joint custody doesn't work for children in school and parents that live miles apart.

It can, but it takes some work, scheduling.

And you've got to like to drive. LOL

Worked just fine for us, but it depends a lot on the child, their needs, and how flexible everyone is.

(Speaking from experience here. :wink:)

[KKKKKKatie]

*whispers* only the ones over 60. shhhhhhh

:wink:

I resemble that remark :cursing:

:lol:

[playnice]

I see an emergency hearing coming. I think she will get custody, and not just because there is too much in question surrounding Misty. Ron's actions are not easily justified.

Brat I disagree. The court will most likely put him in foster care if they feel he is in danger.
Crystal cant prove to the court she can support him.
They will NOT count her BF income since he has no legal responsibility for Jr.

[Deb7]

Ok, I am not referring to today (wedding) but for this whole month that Haleigh has been missing. Where has Ron JR been? Who has been watching him and caring for him? I would think that if one of children was missing that you would want to keep a very close eye on the remaining child out of fear that the same thing might happen. If it was me, I wouldn't let him out of my sight.

So, has anyone heard where he is? Besides that he is staying with his gma who clearly is not watching him because she is always with Ron it seems.

[Money Girl]

A "secret location" is now mentioned as the site of the wedding in this WESH item that was updated at 2:07 pm, today.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

[Leather&Lace]

Sorry, that was my post about the ringer sounding like a clock. I was looking at some video and heard it on the video. I thought it was coming from a cell phone in the interview. I listened again, and don't believe it is. I listened to another youtube of the same interview and it is not there.

I deleted the post, but too late before comments.

My apologies. :unsure:

Hi friend.
No apologies necessary. So much going on in this case until anything is possible.

JMO

[Speedy30]

Snipped



Good? He would have to be a miracle worker.

Crystal is still $4000 + behind on court ordered child support payments.
She still has no job.....which means no insurance for the kids.

I hate to break it to you, but unless and until Ron and/or Misty are found guilty of some wrong doing concerning Haleigh, those kids are not going to be returned to a dead-beat mother.

IF in fact this attorney has signed on for that reason. IF...which I doubt.

IIRC he is simply a "spokesman"

Before you jump on Ron's preference for young girls getting him locked up and his children removed from his home.......a family member would need to file a complaint first.

I don't see that happening. IMHO



Actually, Crystals lawyers will argue that Ron is also a deadbeat Dad to the child he fathered with another teenage girl.

Then cue to the video that will be played of the child bride crying talking about a fight between her sexually abusive cousin, and Ron, over a GUN, then Misty let a sex offender in the home around the children, and theres a gun?

His power over Crystal is about to be taken away, thank god.

jmo

[Leather&Lace]

Here's those MySpace links... you can see the comments Misty leaves for Amber.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=375142511

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=375142511&albumID=77694&imageID=297932


Ummm, those comments are amazing, makes me think of high school!
JMO:rolleyes:

[KKKKKKatie]

FWIW

A poster from Fla on another board needs to pick her child up at the Crescent City School, and asked if its common for firetrucks, ambulances and media to be at a search scene. :confused:

moo

:eek: Keep us posted Swarvie

[catdoc]

I'm confused about those AMber Myspace postings. How could someone with nic of "Please Bring Hayleigh HOme" post a comment in Nov. 08????

[IlliniFan]

Trying to catch up


Does Crystal live w/Chad or her Mom??? Also, does her fiance (isn't his name chad, too?) have children..I wonder if he has custody of his children..

If anyone knows tia....just wondering...(not implying or suggesting anthing)...lol

[KKKKKKatie]

ooops....did I say 60? I meant....80. *nods* :laugh:

Much better :biggrin:

[MrLucky917B]

A "secret location" is now mentioned as the site of the wedding in this WESH item that was updated at 2:07 pm, today.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

I think the media assumed that the wedding would be at Dunn's Creek, since there were no direct quotes from the family where it would be.

I can see the satellite trucks racing around Putnam Co now.

[KKKKKKatie]

I'm confused about those AMber Myspace postings. How could someone with nic of "Please Bring Hayleigh HOme" post a comment in Nov. 08????

your nic changes whenever you change it on your page....even old posts

[Themis]

"Perfect crimes" are committed all the time. Many, many, many people get away with, well, murder, and never get caught. My son's murderer has, so far.
What you said is sadly so very very true.

My sincere condolences for the loss of your son.

[Leather&Lace]

FWIW

A poster from Fla on another board needs to pick her child up at the Crescent City School, and asked if its common for firetrucks, ambulances and media to be at a search scene. :confused:

moo

:scared: Not unless a searcher has been overcome with heat or some kind of accident with a searcher.

Also, if they have found anything there might be emergency vehicles and personnel.

JMO

[MrLucky917B]

I'm confused about those AMber Myspace postings. How could someone with nic of "Please Bring Hayleigh HOme" post a comment in Nov. 08????

If you change your name it changes your name on all previous comments on anyone's page.

[mustangtoni]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

The family told WESH 2 News that Ronald Cummings, 25, is scheduled to marry 17-year-old Misty Croslin at 4 p.m. The family earlier said the ceremony will be at the Dunn's Creek Baptist Church in the town of San Mateo, which is just north of Satsuma, but the church said that wasn't the case. Now the family says it will be at a "secret location."

[catdoc]

your nic changes whenever you change it on your page....even old posts

Thank you Katie. Definitely hi school tripe. Sad that an infant is involved, whoever his father is.

[bama__angel]

I don't know whether to be praying please let them have found something or please don't let them have found something....



I just pray for Haleigh to come home.......

[KatyDid]

Hi friend.
No apologies necessary. So much going on in this case until anything is possible.

JMO

TY E!!! and everybody else for understanding. :blushing:

[sickntired]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

The family told WESH 2 News that Ronald Cummings, 25, is scheduled to marry 17-year-old Misty Croslin at 4 p.m. The family earlier said the ceremony will be at the Dunn's Creek Baptist Church in the town of San Mateo, which is just north of Satsuma, but the church said that wasn't the case. Now the family says it will be at a "secret location."

Vegas Baby:w00t:

[caphill]

FWIW

A poster from Fla on another board needs to pick her child up at the Crescent City School, and asked if its common for firetrucks, ambulances and media to be at a search scene. :confused:

moo

Is Crescent City School next to the search area that is being done today?

[crymeariver2006]

I'm confused about those AMber Myspace postings. How could someone with nic of "Please Bring Hayleigh HOme" post a comment in Nov. 08????

Because she changed her profile name and pic after Haleigh went missing. Any thing she had posted to somebody else's MySpace would show the new photo and name.

Just like your sig lines here. If you change it today, any post you had in the past would show your new sig line.

[sickntired]

I don't know whether to be praying please let them have found something or please don't let them have found something....

Let's pray that they have found her safe, and unharmed...maybe a little dehydrated. Wouldn't that make for a wonderful day! :rose:

Be careful what you read on some "other" sites, some people have been known to stir up stuff for no reason.

[MrLucky917B]

Is Crescent City School next to the search area that is being done today?

All the schools are located near HWY 17 where the searches are being done today..

[Leather&Lace]

I don't know whether to be praying please let them have found something or please don't let them have found something....


Awe, I know it is a tough call.

I do hope & pray if Haleigh's little body is laying out in the woods that she is found. :crying:

Right now, I am still holding out hope that she is found alive.

[teresa]

then maybe it should be Crystal that's getting married today, just sayin

I don't believe her fiance is divorced yet.

[MiamiNice1]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

The family told WESH 2 News that Ronald Cummings, 25, is scheduled to marry 17-year-old Misty Croslin at 4 p.m. The family earlier said the ceremony will be at the Dunn's Creek Baptist Church in the town of San Mateo, which is just north of Satsuma, but the church said that wasn't the case. Now the family says it will be at a "secret location."

Found this: (I guess Ron doesn't believe in "signs" and plans to marry anyway....)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/031209Missing_girls_father_to_wed_today

"A family member tipped FOX 35's sister station in Jacksonville and confirmed that Ron and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty, plan to marry at 4 p.m. The ceremony will be held at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church in San Mateo, which is approximately two miles from where the girl was last seen."

imo

[Leather&Lace]

I agree with you and the others that posted about NG.

I have watched NG for a long time almost every night and something is wrong here. She would normally be all over this IMO

MOO

Yep, yep, yep.
After years of watching Nancy Grace, I believe the "Melinda Duckett" incident put a damper on Nancy speaking her opinion in these later cases.

I really wish Nancy would just let it fly. I would certainly be interested in her thoughts on this case. Same with Caylee Anthony case as well.

JMO

[IlliniFan]

I don't believe her fiance is divorced yet.



Do he and his wife/x-wife have children?? just curious..tia

[Leather&Lace]

It's too bad that neither Ron nor Misty take the church bailing out as a sign, a sign to not get married and a sign to get off their duff and help le out or if nothing else, act a little concerned fgs.

moo


If it were me, I'd be standing on the side of the road where the search is being conducted! Waiting for any word on my daughter.
I sure as heck would not be dressing for my wedding. :cursing:

JMO

[sickntired]

After 33 days?

Yeah, a big dream, but....everyone has to have a dream!:wub:

[Leather&Lace]

I don't believe her fiance is divorced yet.

I was going to post this exact same thing a few minutes ago but did not have a link. IIRC, several places I have read state that Chad is still married and not divorced.

:thumbdown:Not a good thing IMO. Are Chad and Crystal living together? If so, I would think the courts would frown on this arrangement. JMO tho.

What is that old saying ~ Two wrongs do not make a right.

[teresa]

Yep, yep, yep.
After years of watching Nancy Grace, I believe the "Melinda Duckett" incident put a damper on Nancy speaking her opinion in these later cases.

I really wish Nancy would just let it fly. I would certainly be interested in her thoughts on this case. Same with Caylee Anthony case as well.

JMO

I think her attitude is speaking for her. She does not approve of the mother's side trashing Ron or the socio-economic bashing of them. She for sure doesn't approve of a custody hearing right now. She cuts someone off every time they start.

I think she would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

[Speedy30]

I was going to post this exact same thing a few minutes ago but did not have a link. IIRC, several places I have read state that Chad is still married and not divorced.

:thumbdown:Not a good thing IMO. Are Chad and Crystal living together? If so, I would think the courts would frown on this arrangement. JMO tho.

What is that old saying ~ Two wrongs do not make a right.

Aww, so Ron, having the teen lover living in his trailer unmarried has been just as horrid?
Personally, I would rather be married to someone else and living with my current lover, than committing child rape, but thats just me.
Do Ron and Misty have a child together?

[Leather&Lace]

Yeah it does - but then again we're dealing with girls who are 17, 18. They're uncalled for, especially on a page that's marked "Public", I notice Misty's myspace was "Private".

Why doesnt Misty ever mention Amber's baby Jordan when she says how much she loves the kids? JMO a woman needs to love ALL her boyfriends children before they get married.
JMO


I so agree!

It is so sad to me. These teen girls act just like they are fighting over their high school boyfriend. The only difference is there are children/babies involved. How sad!
JMO

[teresa]

Do he and his wife/x-wife have children?? just curious..tia


Two I believe. His wife filed some kind of restraint to keep him away for a time (I think...it could have just been away from her). That has expired if IRC. The documents are linked somewhere. Maybe here?

[Money Girl]

SATSUMA, FL -- First Coast News has learned the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his teen girlfriend and be in New York City Friday for a morning appearance as newlyweds on The Today Show on NBC.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3

[Leather&Lace]

Aww, so Ron, having the teen lover living in his trailer unmarried has been just as horrid?
Personally, I would rather be married to someone else and living with my current lover, than committing child rape, but thats just me.
Do Ron and Misty have a child together?

Don't take my comment so personal.

Personally, I do not think either home is fit for children from what I have read thus my comment for two wrongs don't make a right.

As far as Ron & Misty having a child.. not that I have heard.
JMO

[MrLucky917B]

Honeymoon in New York

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3

[Money Girl]

Janitor charged with theft of Haleigh Cummings reward cash
Man cleaned Baker County school bus garage where girl's grandmother drives


http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-03-12/story/deputies_charge_janitor_with_stealing_reward_money _in_haleigh_cumm

[sickntired]

Yeah it does - but then again we're dealing with girls who are 17, 18. They're uncalled for, especially on a page that's marked "Public", I notice Misty's myspace was "Private".

Why doesnt Misty ever mention Amber's baby Jordan when she says how much she loves the kids? JMO a woman needs to love ALL her boyfriends children before they get married.
JMO


I don't know a whole lot about myspace, but why would Misty even leave that message for her in November 2008 as it appears the other girl hasn't logged in since April of 2008?

[CANDYKISSES]

Trying to catch up


Does Crystal live w/Chad or her Mom??? Also, does her fiance (isn't his name chad, too?) have children..I wonder if he has custody of his children..

If anyone knows tia....just wondering...(not implying or suggesting anthing)...lol

Well, currently Chad and Crystal are undergoing makeovers on Myspace. However, prior to the introduction of a spokesperson and attorney, both myspaces were a bit saucy and yes, it would appear Chad has two children IIRC.

Check Mimi428 posts for family trees and it might appear there. Chad had an order, IIRC Ex-Parte concerning a child that is posted here somewhere and the order was lifted November 2008. Based on reading that, I don't think he has custody of his other children, but his picture still shows with the baby Crystal alleges she has with him, Chloe.

His myspace had the naked ladies wallpaper before the makeover started this week coupled with fun comments about liking to drink "jen and juice" with Crystal and her sister IIRC.

Crystal's myspace had many photos of Chloe, her ten month old allegedly born of her relationship with Chad according to Crystal and Chad. She had some pics of all her children and an album of a car accident and her bruises from the accident.

She also had a comment about watching Chloe, Chad and the brats IIRC, so I don't know who the brats are, but I am sure by Sunday night we will see a whole new picture of this couple IMOO.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=418138401

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=395122639

JMO

[teresa]

I don't think she approves of either side and quite frankly, I think the entire case is disgusting in her view, but that's just me speculating. I think it gets under Nancy's skin when Teresa and Misty pour salt in open wounds, claiming the kids loved Misty like a mom and wanted her for a mom. I hardly doubt Nancy Grace would condone that type of behavior, imo.


She's been defending Ron awfully hard. I'm sure she doesn't approve of his lifestyle choices but she is pretty clear that she doesn't approve of a mother who never tried to get her kids back if she thought they weren't safe. Or the missing 12 doctor appts when she wasn't working. She was pretty PO'd over that.

[FoxySly]

I don't think it is true that someone can only be charged/locked up if a parent files a complaint IMO

I don't know if that's correct.

From my own experience many years ago (in the state of NV) a lot of people tried even begged for my 1st marriage not to be allowed but at 17 years, 1 month & 1 day old I was literally dragged out of my Granny's arms to be married off to a pervert older than my bio father with my bio mom happily signing the papers.
I know my Granny did/tried everything with the powers that be to save me from that yet I was legally married but not in my heart.

I do wonder if reports for Misty not being in school would/could help her?

Sly

~

[bama__angel]

SATSUMA, FL -- First Coast News has learned the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his teen girlfriend and be in New York City Friday for a morning appearance as newlyweds on The Today Show on NBC.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3



This is what I would like to see.....No publicity at all for anyone in either family about anything other than publicity about what is going on to find Haleigh.....IMO nothing else but Haleigh is newsworthy at this point in time.............

Keep all news on HALEIGH......Not what her crazy family is doing...........

[Leather&Lace]

SATSUMA, FL -- First Coast News has learned the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his teen girlfriend and be in New York City Friday for a morning appearance as newlyweds on The Today Show on NBC.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3


OMG, Brings on that barf feeling!

[sickntired]

Well there not planning to search at all. Honey moon in NY


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3

I wonder if they'll do Nancy Grace while their in NY. I remember Josh Duckett going to NY to do her show.

[catdoc]

Aww, so Ron, having the teen lover living in his trailer unmarried has been just as horrid?
Personally, I would rather be married to someone else and living with my current lover, than committing child rape, but thats just me.
Do Ron and Misty have a child together?

Ron is not committing child rape. Saying it 1000 times does not make it true. With Parental consent, 16 or 17 is legal.

[KKKKKKatie]

I don't know if that's correct.

From my own experience many years ago (in the state of NV) a lot of people tried even begged for my 1st marriage not to be allowed but at 17 years, 1 month & 1 day old I was literally dragged out of my Granny's arms to be married off to a pervert older than my bio father with my bio mom happily signing the papers.
I know my Granny did/tried everything with the powers that be to save me from that yet I was legally married but not in my heart.

I do wonder if reports for Misty not being in school would/could help her?

Sly

~

Hey Sly...I wasn't talking about the marriage. I was speaking of charging Ron with sex with a minor (or whatever the charges are in Fla). You don't need a parent to press charges...a person can be charged by the DA.

[MrLucky917B]

I wonder if they'll do Nancy Grace while their in NY. I remember Josh Duckett going to NY to do her show.

I think NG is out of Atlanta..

JMO

[sickntired]

I don't know if that's correct.

From my own experience many years ago (in the state of NV) a lot of people tried even begged for my 1st marriage not to be allowed but at 17 years, 1 month & 1 day old I was literally dragged out of my Granny's arms to be married off to a pervert older than my bio father with my bio mom happily signing the papers.
I know my Granny did/tried everything with the powers that be to save me from that yet I was legally married but not in my heart.

I do wonder if reports for Misty not being in school would/could help her?

Sly

~

Wow Sly, sounds like a horrible past. I hope you have some peace in your life now.:rose:

[Owlface]

Hey Sly...I wasn't talking about the marriage. I was speaking of charging Ron with sex with a minor (or whatever the charges are in Fla). You don't need a parent to press charges...a person can be charged by the DA.

Right. And in this case the prosecutor is not going to file charges unless Misty is pregnant. A baby with Ron's dna is the only proof that a jury would accept that Ron and Misty were intimate since neither one of them seems likely to testify to that fact and (Hopefully!) there are no witnesses to their intimacy to offer the proof/probable cause.

[mustangtoni]

SATSUMA, FL -- First Coast News has learned the father of Haleigh Cummings will marry his teen girlfriend and be in New York City Friday for a morning appearance as newlyweds on The Today Show on NBC.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3

OMG...and I'll leave it at that...

[catdoc]

Says alot about the parent, doesn't it??

Yes, It certainly does. Mom's comments when they got the license make me sick. Doubt Misti's ever had any real parenting.

[Themis]

With regard to the current search going on in the Crescent City area:

Here is a link to a Crescent City area map:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Crescent+City&state=FL

Custody Hearing between Cummings and Sheffield, page 6 and 7, December 27, 2005.

Link to Custody Hearing: http://www.cbs47.com/media/news/e/4/2/e42078af-0580-47ab-8b13-b60c9d0f9ac3/cummings1.pdf

RC gives as his current address on 12/27/05 as: 111 Sharon (phonetic), Satsuma
(a 3/2 mobile home LEASED BY HIS MOTHER and has been living there for 3 months)

Magistrate Prugh asked for RC's former address.

RC responds: 145 (inaudible)

Magistrate asks for a repeat

RC responds: 105 (inaudible)

Magistrate: And which city is that in?

Lake Como. I believe the address is Crescent City, so ----

Magistrate: ... Were the children in your custody while you lived there?

RC responds: Well, yes, they were with me and the Mother. We were together when I lived there.

....................

I knew both Lake Como and Crescent City rang a bell & now I have tracked it down!:smile:

Note that the former address was never clearly given nor transcribed.

Note: Lake Como is due east of Waleka. Crescent City is south of Lake Como.

Interesting in light of today's search. [JMO]

[mustangtoni]

I dont know what to say. I am horrified at this behavior.

Wonder how much they are getting paid for this...What a shame...

[3Monkeys]

Honeymoon in New York

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133570&catid=3

Thanks for the heads-up.

[sinagua]

Unfortunately, some parents can't or don't try to parent their teens. Does anyone know if Misty ever went to school? I don't remember any of her classmates speaking up.

Do we know if Misty had any relationships prior to Ron?

I don't think that either of these families care how old anyone is, if that person happens to be a prospective date.

I would be out of my mind looking for Haleigh, if she was mine. But, Ron and Misty keep making this about them.

[Leather&Lace]

Does NG pay for interviews? This just makes me sick.

No, NG does not pay for interviews. They had said this many times on her show.
No link so will just state MOO.