Michelle Fisher Young 3-11-2009

[bsatis]

Can you explain why he stayed around the hotel for at least an hour, he checks in at 10:50 approx, and is still there at a minute to midnite?

I would think he would in a hurry to get this murder done, and back in time for breakfast or another trip to Cracker Barrel.

Makes no sense, he didn't have that much time to play with, as it was.

Kat

He was trying to make the window as TIGHT as possible in hopes that the video of him at the front desk would help him with his alibi. IT DIDN'T.

[Tia]

Definitely agree that they've looked at other folks. What is not known is the % of their finite resources spent on JY vs. those other folks. Some will say that it appears the majority of resources have been spent investigating him and have good reasons for thinking that. The info in the public domain certainly supports that.


I just can't get past the fact that he has done NOTHING to assist LE or even himself.

Another no-show today.

[Tia]

He was trying to make the window as TIGHT as possible in hopes that the video of him at the front desk would help him with his alibi. IT DIDN'T.


Right. Its still very doable!

And he may still be free, which seems to excite some here, but he has lost it all. I don't think life behind bars will be much different that the miserable life he has created for himself.

[Kat4Eagles]

His being lost between Clintwood and Wytheville could very well have something to do with the murder. No one can prove that he was really lost...or that he perhaps had more nefarious things to do along the way. Lost or tossing out a striped shirt and a pair of hushpuppies? No one knows at this point do we?

So, you are saying that he is still driving around with "stuff" , knowing that at anytime he could be pulled over driving a car with an out of state license plate, and have his background pulled up and then guess what?

"Oops, seems your wife was murdered last nite in Raleigh, have a nice day, Sir?"

Kat

[jerzeegirl]

I just can't get past the fact that he has done NOTHING to assist LE or even himself.

Another no-show today.


youre right tia, hes done nothing to help himself in this whole thing, nevermind his wife, children, inlaws. Everybody else has been running around in circles since day one trying to find michelles killer, JY sits on his butt and plays catch me if you can. He thinks its a big joke i guess, well the joke will be on him in the end.

[Kat4Eagles]

He was trying to make the window as TIGHT as possible in hopes that the video of him at the front desk would help him with his alibi. IT DIDN'T.

OMG, I am soooooooooo glad you said this!!

So, why was he wearing 2 different shirts for the camera?
When he knew that all his clothing would have to be accounted for?

Why doesn't he look nervous on the camera?
He is about to end 2 people's life, right?
All in a days work?,
Just like finding a body and not knowing a murder happened?
Something like that?

Boy, people in NC are so laid back...
Kat

[achristie]

Definitely agree that they've looked at other folks. What is not known is the % of their finite resources spent on JY vs. those other folks. Some will say that it appears the majority of resources have been spent investigating him and have good reasons for thinking that. The info in the public domain certainly supports that.

I don't know what their resources are. Maybe that has contributed to the length of time it's taking to investigate? I'm not well versed on the ins and outs of all this.

MOO Aggie

[trucrime]

So, with Jason's super~glue alibi of being in Hillsville, you think he is going to take the chance of speeding and being pulled over with all that incriminating stuff in his car?
:rolleyes:
Kat

The alibi isnt "super glue", and I think Jason felt he was above the law.
Why are you "rolling your eyes" at me, Im entitled to my opinion. IMO.

[Doorbell]

So, with Jason's super~glue alibi of being in Hillsville, you think he is going to take the chance of speeding and being pulled over with all that incriminating stuff in his car?
:rolleyes:
Kat

Given his history of speeding tickets, and the adrenaline produced by committing such a crime, I think it quite possible.

[trucrime]

OMG, I am soooooooooo glad you said this!!

So, why was he wearing 2 different shirts for the camera?
When he knew that all his clothing would have to be accounted for?

Why doesn't he look nervous on the camera?
He is about to end 2 people's life, right?
All in a days work?,
Just like finding a body and not knowing a murder happened?
Something like that?

Boy, people in NC are so laid back...
Kat

Ive only seen one snapshot of Jason at the front desk, a black and white security camera image. Is there other footage showing Jason for at least a few minutes? Like VIDEO footage? Hard to tell if he's nervous or not since its Ive only seen ONE PHOTO. But perhaps you can show me footage Ive never seen?

By the way, the person he visited at the hospital the next day for his work, I heard that allegedly that person thinks Jason seemed nervous and hyper. IMO.

[trucrime]

Given his history of speeding tickets, and the adrenaline produced by committing such a crime, I think it quite possible.

Exactly. IMO. I think its quite possible. Does the timeline "cut it close" yes it does, but its not impossible that he did in fact kill Michelle & Rylan. IMO.

[Tia]

Given his history of speeding tickets, and the adrenaline produced by committing such a crime, I think it quite possible.

And if he didn't do it, why is he sitting back watching his world crumble and doing nothing about it?


LIVE updates from the Courtroom at the "other thread".

[jerzeegirl]

ive never heard anyone claim that they think Jason is smart anyway. He leaves his lovers underwear in his bed, ya think hes not going to speed to avoid blowing his alibi for murder? cmon.

[Doorbell]

I don't know what their resources are. Maybe that has contributed to the length of time it's taking to investigate? I'm not well versed on the ins and outs of all this.

MOO Aggie


IMO, part of the problem may be the small number of accredited DNA testing labs. It seems to take forever to get results. I think there was probably a lot of DNA and fingerprints of innocent people to eliminate, as the couple seemed to entertain a lot.

It takes a long time to track down fingerprints that are not in a LE database, when the husband isn't telling who all has been there to leave them.

IMO

[5swab5]

ive never heard anyone claim that they think Jason is smart anyway. He leaves his lovers underwear in his bed, ya think hes not going to speed to avoid blowing his alibi for murder? cmon.

Really! At that point, he had to go for broke. He had a quasi alibi on the front end of the slaughters, he had to preserve the alibi on the back end. His goose was cooked if he blew off the meeting entirely. 35 minutes late, hyper and nervous was preferable to nothing.

Too bad Michelle didn't cooperate with the strangling and he forgot to use his key card again. He could be sitting pretty about now, instead of watching his whole world go down in flames. MOO

[trucrime]

I would think that one would be both nervous before and after killing someone, and not stopping for grits at a Cracker Barrel?

Was he nervous at CB?
Did he hit on the server?
Did L E check out his demeanor there?
Is there video?

Kat

I wasnt aware Jason ate "grits". Do you have a link to show what he ate at Cracker Barrel?

You didnt answer my question about the front desk at the hotel. Was there a VIDEO released?

There hasnt been a photo or video of the Cracker Barrel stop as far as Im aware, do you have a link to maybe enlighten me as to the "lack of nervousness" you claim? Who's to say LE didnt interview the staff at Cracker Barrel, that he even stopped there was new news to those following the case with the release of the latest seach warrant. Im sure LE did as due diligence, question the staff at CB. I dont think LE has released all their info to us yet that they have implicating Jason in the crime. IMO.

[trucrime]

Really! At that point, he had to go for broke. He had a quasi alibi on the front end of the slaughters, he had to preserve the alibi on the back end. His goose was cooked if he blew off the meeting entirely. 35 minutes late, hyper and nervous was preferable to nothing.

Too bad Michelle didn't cooperate with the strangling and he forgot to use his key card again. He could be sitting pretty about now, instead of watching his whole world go down in flames. MOO

I dont think he ever went back to the hotel that night. IMO.

[Tia]

Fisher testified Monday that her daughter was an intelligent woman and caring mother.

"She's the kind of person who didn't know how beautiful she was. She was a sincere, confident woman to everybody around," Fisher said. "(Cassidy was) what completed Michelle. That's what made her a total woman. She was such a natural mother."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4745442/

[5swab5]

IMO, part of the problem may be the small number of accredited DNA testing labs. It seems to take forever to get results. I think there was probably a lot of DNA and fingerprints of innocent people to eliminate, as the couple seemed to entertain a lot.

It takes a long time to track down fingerprints that are not in a LE database, when the husband isn't telling who all has been there to leave them.

IMO

That's the thing, Jason doesn't want LE to know who all has been there. He wants to preserve his hope for "reasonable doubt".

Strange thing for an innocent man to hinge his life and liberty on. MOO

[5swab5]

I dont think he ever went back to the hotel that night. IMO.

IF he did, as soon as he discovered that his rock in the lock was missing, I'm sure he beat it outta there. I don't think he wanted to be seen walking in the front door in the AM. MOO

[Doorbell]

I wasnt aware Jason ate "grits". Do you have a link to show what he ate at Cracker Barrel?

You didnt answer my question about the front desk at the hotel. Was there a VIDEO released?

There hasnt been a photo or video of the Cracker Barrel stop as far as Im aware, do you have a link to maybe enlighten me as to the "lack of nervousness" you claim? Who's to say LE didnt interview the staff at Cracker Barrel, that he even stopped there was new news to those following the case with the release of the latest seach warrant. Im sure LE did as due diligence, question the staff at CB. I dont think LE has released all their info to us yet that they have implicating Jason in the crime. IMO.


LOL! To a person raised in the south, grits are comfort food. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did eat grits.

IMO

[jerzeegirl]

LOL! To a person raised in the south, grits are comfort food. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did eat grits.

IMO

so now it is odd that a killer ate a meal before killing his wife but its not odd that an innocent person would give up primary custody of his daughter to someone that killed his wife. Geez, i have people all wrong.

[Tia]

so now it is odd that a killer ate a meal before killing his wife but its not odd that an innocent person would give up primary custody of his daughter to someone that killed his wife. Geez, i have people all wrong.


Crazy huh???!

[Doorbell]

so now it is odd that a killer ate a meal before killing his wife but its not odd that an innocent person would give up primary custody of his daughter to someone that killed his wife. Geez, i have people all wrong.

If you hang around here long enough, you get the sensation of having stepped 'through the looking-glass!"

IMO

[jerzeegirl]

Crazy huh???!


Yeah very crazy, jason leaves nasty undies for michelle to see. BUT would NEveR speed or eat at cracker barrel if he killed her.

SMIth: Your Honor, the defense rests, Jason young has proven to have eaten at Cracker bArrel prior to the murder.

PROSECUTION: We drop all charges. We were unaware of the Cracker Barrel theory. We apologize to the defendent.

[5swab5]

so now it is odd that a killer ate a meal before killing his wife but its not odd that an innocent person would give up primary custody of his daughter to someone that killed his wife. Geez, i have people all wrong.

You can't win. Not too long ago, posters were claiming when Jason was spotted in the hallway at midnight, that he had to be going to get something to eat, because he couldn't possibly have driven all that way and gone to his meeting the next day without eating.

Now that there is proof that he did eat, he isn't supposed to have.

Any man that can slay his wife and unborn child than call his sweet thang first thing the next morning, shouldn't have had any trouble eating at the Cracker Barrel the evening before. MOO

[achristie]

Picture of Linda on the stand. My heart breaks for her.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

[bsatis]

So, you are saying that he is still driving around with "stuff" , knowing that at anytime he could be pulled over driving a car with an out of state license plate, and have his background pulled up and then guess what?

"Oops, seems your wife was murdered last nite in Raleigh, have a nice day, Sir?"

Kat

I was saying it was possible...that is all. Wouldn't be bright. But then again, neither is calling your mom 28 times that day or texting/msging your lover 980 times in a month either.

[Tia]

Picture of Linda on the stand. My heart breaks for her.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

What a coward Jason is for not facing up to anyone!


JMO

[jerzeegirl]

I was saying it was possible...that is all. Wouldn't be bright. But then again, neither is calling your mom 28 times that day or texting/msging your lover 980 times in a month either.


or leaving nasty undies in your bed,
or giving up primary custody of your child
or not answering a wds
or not putting a headstone on your wifes grave (but you can afford Puerto Rico,..,.....twice)
or sleeping with wifes bf
or sleeping with campers
etc

[janesdeaan]

According to updates from the courthouse audience, Jason Young called two different friends Nov 2 and told them both DIFFERENT stories. One he said how tired he was from driving mountain roads, Det. Spivey testified that the road to Hillville was smooth sailing ! He told the other friend he was going to stop to watch the ballgame. Also reported, GA friend brought a casserole for Michelle, Jason and herself, Jason wasn't hungry. Hmmmm...then he went straight to Cracker Barrel ?

[janesdeaan]

Spivey testified Monday that, based on the evidence he's collected in the case over the last 23 months, he believes Jason Young planned his wife's slaying.

The evidence includes computer searches on Jason Young's computer for "head trauma" and "the anatomy for the rear part of the skull," Spivey said.

"That ties in with the nature of her death," he said. "In my opinion, (her death) was premeditated."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4745442/

[janesdeaan]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/4748327/

[achristie]

Spivey testified Monday that, based on the evidence he's collected in the case over the last 23 months, he believes Jason Young planned his wife's slaying.

The evidence includes computer searches on Jason Young's computer for "head trauma" and "the anatomy for the rear part of the skull," Spivey said.

"That ties in with the nature of her death," he said. "In my opinion, (her death) was premeditated."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4745442/

I had read earlier that we may learn something new today.
Never dreamed it would be premeditation.
Kudos to the members that have kept us up to date with the latest.

Wow, just wow.

MOO Aggie

[janesdeaan]

I had read earlier that we may learn something new today.
Never dreamed it would be premeditation.
Kudos to the members that have kept us up to date with the latest.

Wow, just wow.

MOO Aggie

Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.

[Tia]

I had read earlier that we may learn something new today.
Never dreamed it would be premeditation.
Kudos to the members that have kept us up to date with the latest.

Wow, just wow.

MOO Aggie

Wow is right!

I makes me feel good to know that our "source" has once again been proven correct!

[jerry50]

It's not that they haven't looked, there is something that they are struggling with, that's for sure..

Kat

Do we have a link that says that all of the forensic evidence has come back from the lab?

[janesdeaan]

Fisher broke into tears a number of times throughout her testimony, and spent a lot of time talking about Michelle's mothering skills.

"That's what completed Michelle, that's what made her a total woman," said Fisher. "She was such a natural mother."

One of the tensest moments of the day occurred when lawyers played a DVD of Michelle and her daughter, Cassidy, playing together.

Those in the court could not see the video, but could plainly hear the two giggling when all of a sudden Cassidy exclaimed: "I love you mommy."

http://raleigh.mync.com/site/raleigh/news|Sports|Lifestyles/story/29661/jason-young-a-no-show

[jerzeegirl]

i didnt know spivey was going to be there today. WOW testifying to facts of the case. Awesome!

[achristie]

i didnt know spivey was going to be there today. WOW testifying to facts of the case. Awesome!

Yep. This is big!!!!!!! HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!

MOO Aggie

[jerzeegirl]

so is that it? is the hearing over? What is the outcome?

[5swab5]

According to updates from the courthouse audience, Jason Young called two different friends Nov 2 and told them both DIFFERENT stories. One he said how tired he was from driving mountain roads, Det. Spivey testified that the road to Hillville was smooth sailing ! He told the other friend he was going to stop to watch the ballgame. Also reported, GA friend brought a casserole for Michelle, Jason and herself, Jason wasn't hungry. Hmmmm...then he went straight to Cracker Barrel ?

I am speechless. I would love to be a fly on the wall in Brevard today. MOO

[jerzeegirl]

Yep. This is big!!!!!!! HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!

MOO Aggie


Oh definitely HUGE. More stuff to be substantiated.

[trucrime]

so now it is odd that a killer ate a meal before killing his wife but its not odd that an innocent person would give up primary custody of his daughter to someone that killed his wife. Geez, i have people all wrong.

Yeah me too, I must have it all wrong. After all my opinion seems to be met with eye rolling icons and no answers to my queries about how they form their train of thought, ie evidence. IMO.

[janesdeaan]

so is that it? is the hearing over? What is the outcome?

No they broke for lunch, Spivey will testify about the crime scene after the break. What time is it there ? lol i always forget

[Tia]

so is that it? is the hearing over? What is the outcome?


They are on a lunch break.

[trucrime]

Do we have a link that says that all of the forensic evidence has come back from the lab?

Not that Im aware of Jerry. Ive just seen bits released in the SW's, no conclusive list of all the evidence (in general). IMO.

[reborn]

[QUOTE=janesdeaan;12898205]Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.[/QUOTE

Pre- Meditiated means nothing without an arrest. Does anybody else think spivey is really sticking his neck out?

[jerzeegirl]

No they broke for lunch, Spivey will testify about the crime scene after the break. What time is it there ? lol i always forget


its 2:55 here now. Hes going to testify about the crime scene? Oh geez, this is probably going to be horrible.

[janesdeaan]

[QUOTE=janesdeaan;12898205]Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.[/QUOTE

Pre- Meditiated means nothing without an arrest. Does anybody else think spivey is really sticking his neck out?

Nope, I believe Spivey would NEVER in a million years testify or give his opinion that Jason Young murdered Michelle or that it was pre-meditated UNLESS he was damn sure of it.

[trucrime]

Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.

I agree! All of the predictions have come true. You'd think that would make someone that supports Jason Young wonder if their personal judgement was accurate. IMO.

[jerzeegirl]

[QUOTE=janesdeaan;12898205]Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.[/QUOTE

Pre- Meditiated means nothing without an arrest. Does anybody else think spivey is really sticking his neck out?

no, wrong, pre-meditated means that a killer planned a murder, could be seconds, minutes, days, hours. Means alot without an arrest. Maybe not to you who is cheering on the killer.

[Doorbell]

[QUOTE=janesdeaan;12898205]Yes, and pre-meditation means DEATH PENALTY !!! I agree Aggie, that group of members have been consistently informative in this case as well as being correct in their reporting. KUDOS is right, can't believe they are not welcome here, that is an injustice IMO.[/QUOTE

Pre- Meditiated means nothing without an arrest. Does anybody else think spivey is really sticking his neck out?

He is testifying under oath.

[achristie]

Yeah me too, I must have it all wrong. After all my opinion seems to be met with eye rolling icons and no answers to my queries about how they form their train of thought, ie evidence. IMO.

Sometimes it's best to just scroll on by.:wink:

I'm blown away that premeditation has been put out there. No wonder this is taking so long.

MOO Aggie

[trucrime]

[QUOTE=reborn;12898251]

Nope, I believe Spivey would NEVER in a million years testify or give his opinion that Jason Young murdered Michelle or that it was pre-meditated UNLESS he was damn sure of it.

This could very well be a death penalty case... which may be why its taking so long. You want to have any possible evidence together before proceeding with such a case. IMO.

[jerzeegirl]

[QUOTE=janesdeaan;12898256]

This could very well be a death penalty case... which may be why its taking so long. You want to have any possible evidence together before proceeding with such a case. IMO.


i dont believe it would ever make it that far. Scaredy cat jason would definitely take a plea IMO.

[5swab5]

Pre- Meditiated means nothing without an arrest. Does anybody else think spivey is really sticking his neck out?

I think it is great that Spivey is willing to testify to his convictions. Premeditated seems to be the operative word for the day. MOO

[bsatis]

OMG, I am soooooooooo glad you said this!!

So, why was he wearing 2 different shirts for the camera?
When he knew that all his clothing would have to be accounted for?

Why doesn't he look nervous on the camera?
He is about to end 2 people's life, right?
All in a days work?,
Just like finding a body and not knowing a murder happened?
Something like that?

Boy, people in NC are so laid back...
Kat


Perhaps he wasn't planning on ruining his shirt. And...how the heck can you determine if someone looks nervous on still shots shot from feet away. Wow, you are good.

[Doorbell]

[QUOTE=trucrime;12898266]


i dont believe it would ever make it that far. Scaredy cat jason would definitely take a plea IMO.

But...but...but...wouldn't he have to talk?

[bsatis]

Wonder if LE knows if Jason met someone at CB? Maybe that someone followed him on to Hillsville and spent the night. Maybe that someone was cold the next morning and worn the so called missing shirt. Maybe that someone is married and doesn't want to come forward unless absolutely necessary.

Anyone but Jason, eh? You would THINK they would be seen on camera at some point, don't you think?

[jerzeegirl]

[QUOTE=jerzeegirl;12898269]

But...but...but...wouldn't he have to talk?

hmm i dont think he would have to talk, wouldnt his lawyer arrange all that? IDK

[Barbara2]

Anyone but Jason, eh? You would THINK they would be seen on camera at some point, don't you think?

I'm trying to figure out why this married woman who didn't want her husband to find out that she was fooling around would not give her lover's shirt back to him but instead would wear it home. Wouldn't her husband wonder why she was wearing some strange man's shirt? :shrug:

[jerzeegirl]

I'm trying to figure out why this married woman who didn't want her husband to find out that she was fooling around would not give her lover's shirt back to him but instead would wear it home. Wouldn't her husband wonder why she was wearing some strange man's shirt? :shrug:

Id like to know why Jason is protecting this married lover. If this person exists, its the best alibi one could ask for, why would he protect her and be declared a slayer and lose primary custody of his child?

[janesdeaan]

Is it 2:20 in NC right now ? They'll be back in court at 2:30.

[Barbara2]

Id like to know why Jason is protecting this married lover. If this person exists, its the best alibi one could ask for, why would he protect her and be declared a slayer and lose primary custody of his child?

Yes, that theory doesn't seem to have been thought through very well.

[jerzeegirl]

Is it 2:20 in NC right now ? They'll be back in court at 2:30.


no its 320 now

[Barbara2]

Is it 2:20 in NC right now ? They'll be back in court at 2:30.


It's 3:20 right now in NC.

[reborn]

Id like to know why Jason is protecting this married lover. If this person exists, its the best alibi one could ask for, why would he protect her and be declared a slayer and lose primary custody of his child?

Maybe because LE made him mad so he decided to let Wake Co. bankrupt themselves trying to prove him guilty. Its just a theory. Its as good as any I've heard.

[trucrime]

Im guessing just as LE looked at the footage from the hotel that night, they looked at ALL the guests to elimiate them. IMO.

I also noticed in the WRAL article, it says the money from the judgement would be used for Cassidy - just as several of us thought. Those who were suggesting Meredith & Linda were just trying to get rich must have been wrong. Not to mention, how could they get rich when Jason is unemployed and has few assets. IMO.

[Tia]

Yes, that theory doesn't seem to have been thought through very well.

As more evidence comes out, the theories get weaker and weaker.

[jerzeegirl]

Maybe because LE made him mad so he decided to let Wake Co. bankrupt themselves trying to prove him guilty. Its just a theory. Its as good as any I've heard.


so he would hand over primary custody of his child just so he could see wake co. go bankrupt? Cmon, id believe a giant swarm of moths came in his hotel and ate his shirt before id believe that.

[reborn]

I'm trying to figure out why this married woman who didn't want her husband to find out that she was fooling around would not give her lover's shirt back to him but instead would wear it home. Wouldn't her husband wonder why she was wearing some strange man's shirt? :shrug:


Wouldn't you think if her husband was home she wouldn't have been out all night?

[Doorbell]

Maybe because LE made him mad so he decided to let Wake Co. bankrupt themselves trying to prove him guilty. Its just a theory. Its as good as any I've heard.

Methinks this theory leave Jason more bankrupt than wake County.

IMO

[Doorbell]

so he would hand over primary custody of his child just so he could see wake co. go bankrupt? Cmon, id believe a giant swarm of moths came in his hotel and ate his shirt before id believe that.

:laugh::rolleyes:

[Doorbell]

Wouldn't you think if her husband was home she wouldn't have been out all night?

Hey. This is your theory; you explain it.

[5swab5]

so he would hand over primary custody of his child just so he could see wake co. go bankrupt? Cmon, id believe a giant swarm of moths came in his hotel and ate his shirt before id believe that.

The denial and excuses for Jason have hit an all time low today. I bet he is so inspired. Think mommie will give him a ten spot so he can go out and drown his sorrows at the local pub tonight? Or does he only drink when he takes care of toddlers? MOO

[reborn]

Methinks this theory leave Jason more bankrupt than wake County.

IMO

According to what I've read Jason didn't have anything but debts. Big house with 2 mortages. Two nice cars not paid for. A condo with mortage. What did he have to start with?

[jerzeegirl]

According to what I've read Jason didn't have anything but debts. Big house with 2 mortages. Two nice cars not paid for. A condo with mortage. What did he have to start with?



and how is this helping him>?

[Doorbell]

According to what I've read Jason didn't have anything but debts. Big house with 2 mortages. Two nice cars not paid for. A condo with mortage. What did he have to start with?

A home
A daughter, and a son on the way
A beautiful, intelligent wife with a VERY GOOD job
A not-too-shabby job of his own

Now he has nothing.

[trucrime]

According to what I've read Jason didn't have anything but debts. Big house with 2 mortages. Two nice cars not paid for. A condo with mortage. What did he have to start with?

I think he has interest in the condo still. As well, any FUTURE earnings should be garnished to help meet the civil judgement. IMO.

[janesdeaan]

The report from our members in the courtroom audience is this, and it is very graphic

"The judge has just retreated to his chambers. Spivey took the stand to continue. He said he had seen 100s of homocide scenes but this one was by far the worst. He had several exhibits. There WERE tiny footprints in the master bedroom near the closet area. There was a baby doll lying beside Michelle that likely Cassidy had placed there. :'( At first examination the medical examiner thought maybe Michelle had been stabbed in the jaw because of the clean wound, but later it was determined that the jaw was broken.That tells you just how hard she was hit. Michelle's side of the bed was covered in blood. There was a ton of blood splatter as if arteries had been severed. Next post will be about the monetary damages they are seeking."

http://frictionpowered.hqforums.com/6-vt134.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125

[janesdeaan]

That alone tells me it wasn't Jason Young. He wouldn't have to fight a 5 month pregnant woman. He could have just over powered her and that would be it.

He didn't have to fight her, he had to chase her.

[reborn]

From warrants we know Jason was in Hillsville at midnight. The earliest he could have been in Raleigh would be around 3 AM. I would have to think at 3 AM Michelle would be in deep sleep. She had a 2 year old getting up next morning . If someone went there with the intent to kill her she wouldn't have made it out of the bed. Unless that someone was much weaker than Jason Young.

[janesdeaan]

I don't know , but look what it does to the 911 call now!
Blood all over the room, and the result was a fall.
Strange conclusion for 36 million.
Bet they get less than half.
Kat

I cannot comprehend your post, the result was a fall ? And the next comment as well, what are you saying ?

[reborn]

I don't know , but look what it does to the 911 call now!
Blood all over the room, and the result was a fall.
Strange conclusion for 36 million.
Bet they get less than half.
Kat


I bet they don't get any. I think the real killer with eventually show their hand and this all will be set aside.

[janesdeaan]

From warrants we know Jason was in Hillsville at midnight. The earliest he could have been in Raleigh would be around 3 AM. I would have to think at 3 AM Michelle would be in deep sleep. She had a 2 year old getting up next morning . If someone went there with the intent to kill her she wouldn't have made it out of the bed. Unless that someone was much weaker than Jason Young.

I think it's been said it is an under 3 hour drive, and we have NO way of knowing if Michelle was up or asleep, or what type of sleeper she was, heavy or light. I think it is absolutely (more than) possible it was Jason, and an attempt was made to strangle her first, that alone woke her up immediately, then she got away but not far enough, sadly. imo

[reborn]

I cannot comprehend your post, the result was a fall ? And the next comment as well, what are you saying ?


MF asked Cassie if mommy fell.

[janesdeaan]

I don't know , but look what it does to the 911 call now!
Blood all over the room, and the result was a fall.
Strange conclusion for 36 million.
Bet they get less than half.
Kat

the "they" in your post being Cassidy Young.

[achristie]

OMG, how sad and terrible.

God bless Meredith. Walking into that, she certainly did a stellar job handling Cassidy.


Amen to that, Tia. I don't know how you feel, but I think it's over for JY. What an evil being. Heart breaking to read this stuff. And that sweet child toddling around with her baby doll? Did she say" I wuv you, mommy"?

MOO Aggie

[janesdeaan]

MF asked Cassie if mommy fell.

After unending discussion didn't the majority of posters decide Meredith was asking Cassidy GENTLY about her knowledge of what had ocurred ?

[janesdeaan]

"Send some sort of message to the community that what happened here to Michelle Young is not the way to end a marriage," offered Attorney Jack Michaels.
In the end, the judge decided on $3.9 million compensatory and $11.7 MILLION punitive.


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

[reborn]

the "they" in your post being Cassidy Young.


Are you that naive. Look who has primary custody of her. Remember this.

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-347843.html#347843

[Tia]

He didn't have to fight her, he had to chase her.

Can you even imagine??? Chasing her around the room and beating her head in!!

[achristie]

After unending discussion didn't the majority of posters decide Meredith was asking Cassidy GENTLY about her knowledge of what had ocurred ?

Yep. Been there, done that. Ad nauseum. Why revisit it when all this latest info has been revealed?

And thank you for pointing out that the money is for CY and no one else.

MOO Aggie

[reborn]

After unending discussion didn't the majority of posters decide Meredith was asking Cassidy GENTLY about her knowledge of what had ocurred ?


I didn't know there was a vote.

[jerry50]

I bet they don't get any. I think the real killer with eventually show their hand and this all will be set aside.

:lol::lol:

[5swab5]

Are you that naive. Look who has primary custody of her. Remember this.

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-347843.html#347843


Isn't it against TOS to link to a vulgarity filled site? IF it isn't, it ought to be. MOO

[reborn]

Amen to that, Tia. I don't know how you feel, but I think it's over for JY. What an evil being. Heart breaking to read this stuff. And that sweet child toddling around with her baby doll? Did she say" I wuv you, mommy"?

MOO Aggie

It was right in a warrant she was clean. It said even her feet. So how could she have been alone in that room?

[jerzeegirl]

Yep. Been there, done that. Ad nauseum. Why revisit it when all this latest info has been revealed?

And thank you for pointing out that the money is for CY and no one else.

MOO Aggie


words cant even describe how i feel today with all this. He sat home today, or wherever and didnt even care to deny all this. How could he, how could any husband/father sit there? I just cant believe it. With all that came out in sw's in the past few months and now all this. Im so disgusted.

[Tia]

the "they" in your post being Cassidy Young.


Some don't understand that Cassidy, Linda and Meredith will most likely never see a dime, BUT, Jason Lynn Young cannot profit from Michelle's death. Thats is what is most important to a victim's family.

[reborn]

Isn't it against TOS to link to a vulgarity filled site? IF it isn't, it ought to be. MOO

Read what it says . You guys just said a little while ago the guy that told this rocks.

[janesdeaan]

Fisher testified Monday that her daughter was an intelligent woman and caring mother.

"She's the kind of person who didn't know how beautiful she was. She was a sincere, confident woman to everybody around," she said. "I feel for myself there's an emptiness, it's like my heart's been ripped out of me."

No one can fill the void in Cassidy's life left by her mother's death, Fisher said.

"We try to hug her and love her as much as we could, but it's never enough," she said.

Last month, Jason Young and Fisher reached a settlement in a custody case involving Cassidy. Under that agreement, he will share custody of the child with Michelle Young's sister, Meredith Fisher.

Meredith Fisher testified that Cassidy still has questions about her mother.

"I just grabbed her real tight and told her that her mom loved her so much and that she would squeeze her and hug her like this every chance she could," Meredith Fisher said as she wiped away tears.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4745442/

[Stellagant]

That alone tells me it wasn't Jason Young. He wouldn't have to fight a 5 month pregnant woman. He could have just over powered her and that would be it.

I wonder if Spivey was asked if he thought Jason acted alone because you're right, Jason would have easily overpowered Michelle.

[Tia]

Yep. Been there, done that. Ad nauseum. Why revisit it when all this latest info has been revealed?

And thank you for pointing out that the money is for CY and no one else.

MOO Aggie

Its nothing more than a baiting tactic now. Old news. I recommend scrolling by or ignoring.

Anyone who has or has been near a toddler can see exactly what Meredith was trying to do, and and what an excellent job she did!

[achristie]

Fisher testified Monday that her daughter was an intelligent woman and caring mother.

"She's the kind of person who didn't know how beautiful she was. She was a sincere, confident woman to everybody around," she said. "I feel for myself there's an emptiness, it's like my heart's been ripped out of me."

No one can fill the void in Cassidy's life left by her mother's death, Fisher said.

"We try to hug her and love her as much as we could, but it's never enough," she said.

Last month, Jason Young and Fisher reached a settlement in a custody case involving Cassidy. Under that agreement, he will share custody of the child with Michelle Young's sister, Meredith Fisher.

Meredith Fisher testified that Cassidy still has questions about her mother.

"I just grabbed her real tight and told her that her mom loved her so much and that she would squeeze her and hug her like this every chance she could," Meredith Fisher said as she wiped away tears.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4745442/

Jason Young has had custody of Cassidy, but Michelle's sister, Meredith Fisher, is in the process of slowly taking over those duties.

She said the 4-year-old often asks about her mother.

"She just said 'How did my mom used to hold me?' So I just grabbed her real tight," said Meredith Fisher. "And told her that her mom loved her so much and that she would squeeze her and hug her like this every chance she could."


What a sweet, caring Auntie. Must have been a heart wrenching day for the Fishers.

MOO Aggie

[Stellagant]

It sounds like someone was chasing her around with a baseball bat or golf club or hockey stick , jmo and all that!!

Kat

interesting tidbit about a possible knife wound.

[jerzeegirl]

Jason Young has had custody of Cassidy, but Michelle's sister, Meredith Fisher, is in the process of slowly taking over those duties.

She said the 4-year-old often asks about her mother.

"She just said 'How did my mom used to hold me?' So I just grabbed her real tight," said Meredith Fisher. "And told her that her mom loved her so much and that she would squeeze her and hug her like this every chance she could."


What a sweet, caring Auntie. Must have been a heart wrenching day for the Fishers.

MOO Aggie


such a bitter sweet day! Does anyone know if JYs wages will be garnished? I know here in NJ, it would be a judgement against someone that would garnish ones wages. Dont know about NC, where is Leanne and AE?

[Tia]

Jason Young has had custody of Cassidy, but Michelle's sister, Meredith Fisher, is in the process of slowly taking over those duties.

She said the 4-year-old often asks about her mother.

"She just said 'How did my mom used to hold me?' So I just grabbed her real tight," said Meredith Fisher. "And told her that her mom loved her so much and that she would squeeze her and hug her like this every chance she could."


What a sweet, caring Auntie. Must have been a heart wrenching day for the Fishers.

MOO Aggie

I hope that Cassidy is with someone else today. After the day Jason has had, who knows what he may be capable of?


JMO

[5swab5]

interesting tidbit about a possible knife wound.

There was no such thing posted. It was reported that the jaw injury was first thought to be a knife wound until it was further examined. Does accuracy mean nothing? MOO

[reborn]

I see that.
Sure is strange that they can't arrest him, since they are so sure of other stuff.
Gosh, I wonder what it could be that keeps an arrest from happening.
That darn timeline:
:wink:

Kat


Yep thats where the problem lays.

[reborn]

I hope that Cassidy is with someone else today. After the day Jason has had, who knows what he may be capable of?


JMO


What a terrible thing to say.

[Doorbell]

That alone tells me it wasn't Jason Young. He wouldn't have to fight a 5 month pregnant woman. He could have just over powered her and that would be it.

One word: rage.

[5swab5]

I hope that Cassidy is with someone else today. After the day Jason has had, who knows what he may be capable of?


JMO


No kidding, when he can't finish his chores, I could kill u for not letting me finish the yard this morning, he takes beer and Cassidy to the pool. 15.6 million dollars is bound to generate more anger than that. MOO

[Doorbell]

MF asked Cassie if mommy fell.

What was she supposed to say to a two-year-old?

"Did somebody beat Mommy with a ball bat?"

[Doorbell]

After unending discussion didn't the majority of posters decide Meredith was asking Cassidy GENTLY about her knowledge of what had ocurred ?

Reborn seems a bit confused about what has been discussed before his/her membership.

[Doorbell]

Are you that naive. Look who has primary custody of her. Remember this.

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-347843.html#347843

If it's not against the rules to post links to that tripe, it should be.

IMO

[gorealtors]

such a bitter sweet day! Does anyone know if JYs wages will be garnished? I know here in NJ, it would be a judgement against someone that would garnish ones wages. Dont know about NC, where is Leanne and AE?


There are no wages to garnish.:laugh:

[reborn]

Reborn seems a bit confused about what has been discussed before his/her membership.

Not at all . I have read all the warrants.

[trucrime]

Are you that naive. Look who has primary custody of her. Remember this.

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-347843.html#347843

That board has SLANDERED the Fisher's to no end.

First sentence in that post:
According to cyber gossip
:rolleyes:

Can I get a REAL link to back up your slander? IMO.

[Jester]

Can you even imagine??? Chasing her around the room and beating her head in!!

Thanks. That supports my comment on the weekend where I remembered that it was a prolonged beating while Michelle fought for her life, but the article I was looking for was no longer available.

[trucrime]

There was no such thing posted. It was reported that the jaw injury was first thought to be a knife wound until it was further examined. Does accuracy mean nothing? MOO

Not to some, they just twist everything around. IMO.

[trucrime]

" It was" the most severe physical beating I've ever seen anyone encounter"

"This was pretty extreme,a pretty vicious attack,that she underwent"

This does not line up at all with the 911 call in not determining what happened , and would certainly leave the attacker with some marks, scratches, or injuries.

Jmo

Kat


That's because Meredith,

was probably in a STATE OF SHOCK. IMO.

[Jester]

It was right in a warrant she was clean. It said even her feet. So how could she have been alone in that room?

As you know, that has been discussed. Cassidy could have been awake at the time of the murder and made the footprints. Jason could have washed her feet, over-medicated her, and put her to bed on his side of the bed shortly before he left for his morning meeting.

[trucrime]

What a terrible thing to say.

Not really IMO. Jason is slime of the earth for what he did to Michelle & her unborn son. Tia is just being honest. No wonder Pat accompanied Jason on trips after Michelle was murdered. She was probably worried about Cassidy's well-being. IMO.

[trucrime]

If it's not against the rules to post links to that tripe, it should be.

IMO

Rules in this folder vary depending on what side of the fence you are on. IMO.

[reborn]

That board has SLANDERED the Fisher's to no end.

First sentence in that post:
According to cyber gossip
:rolleyes:

Can I get a REAL link to back up your slander? IMO.

The real link was here. Its tells you who reported it. I hear in some circles he rocks. Oh I heard that here today. Post 567 page 15. Any conplaints see the one that reported it.

[5swab5]

Thanks. That supports my comment on the weekend where I remembered that it was a prolonged beating while Michelle fought for her life, but the article I was looking for was no longer available.

Jester, I remember that story too. It is a shame that we can no longer access some of the very early news reports. I know that I transcribed some of WRAL and WTVD's broadcasts myself. Unfortunately what makes it to their web sites, is not always exactly what is reported live. Kinda like that interview with Steve Money...all the time I wasted...I had no idea that MSNBC purges their site within a certain time frame. MOO

[reborn]

As you know, that has been discussed. Cassidy could have been awake at the time of the murder and made the footprints. Jason could have washed her feet, over-medicated her, and put her to bed on his side of the bed shortly before he left for his morning meeting.


Boy he sure was busy in that hour and 20 minutes he had there. Do you think he showered too? I guess he had to change shoes a couple of times. Wonder how come there wasn't blood in his car? LE thought there might be blood in Michelles car over a year later. I'm giving him the benefit of leaving at 4:20 to make his trip back. What if LE can't prove the delivery man/woman saw the car till 5AM. Then what?

[5swab5]

As you know, that has been discussed. Cassidy could have been awake at the time of the murder and made the footprints. Jason could have washed her feet, over-medicated her, and put her to bed on his side of the bed shortly before he left for his morning meeting.

I'm having a hard time believing that anyone could be cruel enough to place a child, even on the "clean" side of that bed. Course I don't believe in watering down adult meds for children either. Sure seems more and more like Cassidy was not meant to survive. No wonder Jason didn't ask about her on the way back to Raleigh. MOO

[trucrime]

The real link was here. Its tells you who reported it. I hear in some circles he rocks. Oh I heard that here today. Post 567 page 15. Any conplaints see the one that reported it.

ie you have no actual PROOF to back up that slanderous link you posted. IMO.

[Doorbell]

Boy he sure was busy in that hour and 20 minutes he had there. Do you think he showered too? I guess he had to change shoes a couple of times. Wonder how come there wasn't blood in his car? LE thought there might be blood in Michelles car over a year later. I'm giving him the benefit of leaving at 4:20 to make his trip back. What if LE can't prove the delivery man/woman saw the car till 5AM. Then what?

Jason has HOW many speeding thickets?

IMO

[reborn]

ie you have no actual PROOF to back up that slanderous link you posted. IMO.


I could get signed affidavits of who brought that to court tv . Is that what you want?

[tiny paw-prints]

Jason has HOW many speeding thickets?

IMO

Many speeding tickets! And too, HOW many times did he check his voicemail within those hours after Meredith found her sister and just prior to falling to his knees?

[Doorbell]

I could get signed affidavits of who brought that to court tv . Is that what you want?

No. I know all that. I also know that the person who brought it here later posted that he was misinformed and that the statement was not true.

I guess you missed that part.

We I would like to see, is

a) a link that proves it true, and not "cyber gossip," or

b) to stop seeing it used to vilify both Meredith and the person who was misinformed. Or,

c) to stop seeing it, period.

IMO

[reborn]

Jason has HOW many speeding thickets?

IMO

What would that have to do with anything? You think he is dumb enough to speed yet smart enough to stay free for over 2 years?

[reborn]

No. I know all that. I also know that the person who brought it here later posted that he was misinformed and that the statement was not true.

I guess you missed that part.

We I would like to see, is

a) a link that proves it true, and not "cyber gossip," or

b) to stop seeing it used to vilify both Meredith and the person who was misinformed. Or,

c) to stop seeing it, period.

IMO


Well you know how things stick once they are posted on the web.

[Doorbell]

Well you know how things stick once they are posted on the web.

With help from people who choose to perpetuate the misinformation.

IMO

[reborn]

Originally Posted by reborn

Nope, I believe Spivey would NEVER in a million years testify or give his opinion that Jason Young murdered Michelle or that it was pre-meditated UNLESS he was damn sure of it.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------I never made this post. Whoever did please correct it. TIA

[trucrime]

reborn, contact the moderator if you feel your account was hijacked. IMO.

[trucrime]

Well you know how things stick once they are posted on the web.

What kind of weak excuse is that for posting libelous FALSE info about Meredith Fisher? IMO.

[Barbara2]

reborn, contact the moderator if you feel your account was hijacked. IMO.

It wasn't hijacked. She messed up a post early on when she deleted a bracket around the word "QUOTE". Then someone quoted the messed up post and then another quote. That's why the quote function got messed up. It was post #556 by "reborn" at 2:54 east coast time.

[achristie]

It wasn't hijacked. She messed up a post early on when she deleted a bracket around the word "QUOTE". Then someone quoted the messed up post and then another quote. That's why the quote function got messed up. It was post #556 by "reborn" at 2:54 east coast time.

:thumbsup:

So happy for a veteran poster , such as yourself, to clarify the mess.
I was so confused by the bolixed up mess that ensued.
How do we go about getting this fixed?
One solution would be to scroll on by, I guess.
It's quite distracting.

MOO Aggie

[5swab5]

It wasn't hijacked. She messed up a post early on when she deleted a bracket around the word "QUOTE". Then someone quoted the messed up post and then another quote. That's why the quote function got messed up. It was post #556 by "reborn" at 2:54 east coast time.

Exactly, I had to go back in and fix it when I quoted her. Being new and all I just thought she was confused about the quote function, so no problem. MOO

[Barbara2]

:thumbsup:

So happy for a veteran poster , such as yourself, to clarify the mess.
I was so confused by the bolixed up mess that ensued.
How do we go about getting this fixed?
One solution would be to scroll on by, I guess.
It's quite distracting.

MOO Aggie

If a person notices that the post they quoted is messed up, they can fix it by editing (within the allotted time) and adding the missing bracket back into the original post. (Did that make sense?)

[trucrime]

He is not going to take the chance of getting a speeding ticket after committing murder.

Kat

Do you know him? Im curious how you are so certain this must be fact.

IMO he killed them and was likely speeding all along the way. IMO.

[Doorbell]

If a person notices that the post they quoted is messed up, they can fix it by editing (within the allotted time) and adding the missing bracket back into the original post. (Did that make sense?)

Yes. To me. but then, I'm not confused.

[trucrime]

Maybe it was not such a good idea for Jason to have lost his job after all, how ever will he pay this judgement now? :no:
Just think, he would have had to pay some of this, now, he can just claim hardship.
Kat

:no: perhaps it wasnt such a good idea for him to brutally murder his wife and unborn son. IMO.

[Cardinal]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.

[Barbara2]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.

I can see based upon today's testimony how some of Jason's family and/or friends could have given out misinformation in the beginning. I'm guessing that a lot of the so called "conflicting statements" made by Meredith were actually their misinterpretations. Like Meredith saying that Cassidy had been in there with her mother and they translated that to "Meredith found Cassidy with her mother". The more you hear, the more it all comes together. IMO

[annalyzer]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.

Oh my. I just got here. Guess I need to read back.

[Cardinal]

I can see based upon today's testimony how some of Jason's family and/or friends could have given out misinformation in the beginning. I'm guessing that a lot of the so called "conflicting statements" made by Meredith were actually their misinterpretations. Like Meredith saying that Cassidy had been in there with her mother and they translated that to "Meredith found Cassidy with her mother". The more you hear, the more it all comes together. IMO

The more I hear, the more it tears at me, Barbara. Whoever killed Michelle, and I say that with the last remnants of my objectivity, there is no he11 hot enough for them.

[trucrime]

Not proven.......
Besides, who needs to look up head trauma or knockout, if they are going to hit someone on the head?
That is dumb..........
Kat

I doubt Michelle looked up those internet searches. Criminals do stupid things! Casey Anthony's computer also showed damaging internet searches for "cloroform" for one example. IMO. And dont you worry, it will be proven, its becoming more and more clear with each SW released or court hearing. Jason killed them. IMO.

[trucrime]

So, you think that someone who is supposed to be 167 miles away at the time of the crime, is going to risk speeding?

Kat

Yes, that's what I said (quoted below), not sure why you are questioning what I already stated.

IMO he killed them and was likely speeding all along the way. IMO.

[trucrime]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.

Yes apparently that came out during the hearing today.

Along with Det. Spivey saying it was the worst homicide scene he'd ever seen. Blood splatter everywhere, showing that Michelle was probably going around the room trying to get away/fight off Jason. IMO.

[Cardinal]

Yes apparently that came out during the hearing today.

Along with Det. Spivey saying it was the worst homicide scene he'd ever seen. Blood splatter everywhere, showing that Michelle was probably going around the room trying to get away/fight off Jason. IMO.

That just tears me all to pieces. That poor sweet child should never have had to go through that. And when I think about how terrified and shocked Michelle must have been........omg.

Goodnight, everyone. I can't do this right now.

[trucrime]

Imagine walking into that room with blood splatter everywhere, and the scene described as it has been repeatedly over and over,
bloody, horrific, gruesome, gory, etc, and not being scared that whoever did this might still be there.!!

WOW.

Kat


Who's to say Meredith WASNT worried? Are you insinuating something more sinister about Meredith? WOW. Then again, the real killer Jason sent her over there, she knew he wasnt around at least. Meredith was clearly in shock during the 911 call. IMO.

[bsatis]

Imagine walking into that room with blood splatter everywhere, and the scene described as it has been repeatedly over and over,
bloody, horrific, gruesome, gory, etc, and not being scared that whoever did this might still be there.!!

WOW.

Kat

Imagine seeing it...really. Now tell me if you might have went into shock. Apparently people in shock don't get a pass, though.

And no, if anyone is going to say she didn't sound like she was in shock -- I do not believe anyone on this board is qualified to make that determination. So if you are going to make that argument, please link me to your psychology degree. Thanks.

[bsatis]

Anyone else thinking that perhaps JY had to get rid of a pair of Cassidy's jammies when he got rid of the shirt and shoes? When now hearing there was a teddy bear next to Michelle, I am guessing that JY found her comforting her dead mom. She probably had blood on more than her feet....

[5swab5]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.


You are not the only one. WRAL and WTVD showed Spivey when he was talking about that on the stand. It looked very difficult for him as well. MOO

[trucrime]

Anyone else thinking that perhaps JY had to get rid of a pair of Cassidy's jammies when he got rid of the shirt and shoes? When now hearing there was a teddy bear next to Michelle, I am guessing that JY found her comforting her dead mom. She probably had blood on more than her feet....

I heard it was a doll, FYI. Yeah you are right, perhaps he did have to get rid of Cassidy's PJ's. I think he washed her feet post-murder and drugged her at that time. IMO.

[bsatis]

I thought it was a doll, now a teddy bear?
And, is there a link?
I would like to read this.
Kat

It was a baby doll. Sorry about that. Just trying to catch up with everything. I have Monday brain.

But, baby doll or teddy bear -- both provoke the same reaction from me. Extreme sadness.

[Stellagant]

I thought it was a doll, now a teddy bear?
And, is there a link?
I would like to read this.
Kat

Anybody who believes a toddler will place a doll next to her lifeless Mommy but not touch her lifeless Mommy or in any way get blood all over herself really has been reading too many bad novels.

[bsatis]

Cassidy put her baby doll beside her mommy? I thought my heart had broken all it could over this case. I was wrong.

:crying::crying:

I literally cried upon reading that as well, Cardinal.

[bsatis]

Anybody who believes a toddler will place a doll next to her lifeless Mommy but not touch her lifeless Mommy or in any way get blood all over herself really has been reading too many bad novels.

Has anyone said she didn't touch her mommy? I just posted above that she probably was bloody and more than her feet had to be cleaned. I even ventured a guess that there are a pair of Cassidy's jammies that are probably missing after reading what transpired today.

It still changes nothing about the case.

[Cardinal]

I thought it was a doll, now a teddy bear?
And, is there a link?
I would like to read this.
Kat

Here you go, Kat. Watch the video.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

[tiny paw-prints]

Anybody who believes a toddler will place a doll next to her lifeless Mommy but not touch her lifeless Mommy or in any way get blood all over herself really has been reading too many bad novels.

Unfortunately, "bad novels" are sometimes taken directly from "true crime" events. BTW, do you recall the "bloody sock experiment"?

[annalyzer]

Here you go, Kat. Watch the video.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

No more questioning the 911 call from me.

[Cardinal]

No more questioning the 911 call from me.

That's large from you, anna.

Goodnight for real, this time. :seeya:

[Doorbell]

No more questioning the 911 call from me.

Thank you. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

[Barbara2]

I always hate when people come in late on a case and ask what what what?? instead of just reading.

But I'm doing that now.

In the beginning, I believed Jason hired a hit. That seemed fairly obvious, and sad. He hired a hit.

Now, it's believed he killed her himself? How could he have done that while on a business trip far away? I've tried to search around, and read round, and I can't figure out this answer - how could he have done it from a distant business trip?

Sorry to be one of the what what whaters.

He stopped at a hotel only two and a half hours from his home.

[Doorbell]

I always hate when people come in late on a case and ask what what what?? instead of just reading.

But I'm doing that now.

In the beginning, I believed Jason hired a hit. That seemed fairly obvious, and sad. He hired a hit.

Now, it's believed he killed her himself? How could he have done that while on a business trip far away? I've tried to search around, and read round, and I can't figure out this answer - how could he have done it from a distant business trip?

Sorry to be one of the what what whaters.

He has 7 hours unaccounted for.

[trucrime]

Anybody who believes a toddler will place a doll next to her lifeless Mommy but not touch her lifeless Mommy or in any way get blood all over herself really has been reading too many bad novels.

I think Jason washed her feet off after he killed Michelle/Rylan and then drugged her, put her back to bed. More like anyone who insinuates Meredith was anything BUT in a TOTAL state of shock during the 911 call - has been reading too many bad novels. IMO.

[trucrime]

He has 7 hours unaccounted for.


Yes he does, no cell phone pings, no one to account for his whereabouts. Wasnt tracked using the keycard in the morning, nor seen at the hotel. He does have a lead foot though, Im sure that's accounted for as he was speeding to and from their home.

[Barbara2]

Yes he does, no cell phone pings, no one to account for his whereabouts. Wasnt tracked using the keycard in the morning, nor seen at the hotel. He does have a lead foot though, Im sure that's accounted for as he was speeding to and from their home.

Don't forget that there is a discrepancy in the amount of gas used. He should have needed to gas up before he did after leaving his meeting.

[Tia]

No more questioning the 911 call from me.

Wow!

:w00t:

[Doorbell]

Thanks Barbara and Doorbell.

That makes complete sense.

You're welcome.:smile:

[achristie]

Unfortunately, "bad novels" are sometimes taken directly from "true crime" events. BTW, do you recall the "bloody sock experiment"?

Bloody sock experiment?
I remember it well.
Who could forget that?
I remember the experiment AND the experimenter.

MOO Aggie :wink:

[trucrime]

And from what was said in court today there were tiny bloody footprints. Yet Cassidy had clean feet, I think Jason washed her up after killing Michelle. I think Cassidy probably wandered in after the killing was done, perhaps when Jason was cleaning himself up - then he put her back to bed and drugged her. IMO.

[achristie]

No more questioning the 911 call from me.

Glad to hear that, Anna. Welcome into the light.

MOO Aggie

[achristie]

And from what was said in court today there were tiny bloody footprints. Yet Cassidy had clean feet, I think Jason washed her up after killing Michelle. I think Cassidy probably wandered in after the killing was done, perhaps when Jason was cleaning himself up - then he put her back to bed and drugged her. IMO.

I hope you are right. I hope she wandered in after the fact. I hope.

MOO Aggie

[reborn]

He stopped at a hotel only two and a half hours from his home.

You are shaving off 20 minutes each way. Mapquest says 2 hrs 56 mins. yahoo says 2 hrs 50 minutes. Saying 2 and a half hr doesn't make it true.

[Barbara2]

You are shaving off 20 minutes each way. Mapquest says 2 hrs 56 mins. yahoo says 2 hrs 50 minutes. Saying 2 and a half hr doesn't make it true.

I have never known those maps to be accurate. I've always found that you get there much quicker than they estimate. IMO

[daddydidit]

I haven't seen this either.

Kat

obviously.

[Tia]

I have never known those maps to be accurate. I've always found that you get there much quicker than they estimate. IMO


So true! The calculations are based on following the exact speed limits along the route.

[daddydidit]

I have never known those maps to be accurate. I've always found that you get there much quicker than they estimate. IMO

My experience, also. They seem to be a little outdated.

[reborn]

Here you go, Kat. Watch the video.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003


I watched the video. I don't think I have ever seen a witness reading off a paper before. I guess thats one way to keep a story straight.

[reborn]

I have never known those maps to be accurate. I've always found that you get there much quicker than they estimate. IMO


Then why would you bother with them?

[bsatis]

You are shaving off 20 minutes each way. Mapquest says 2 hrs 56 mins. yahoo says 2 hrs 50 minutes. Saying 2 and a half hr doesn't make it true.

And, a map on the internet doesn't make that time true either. It is as simple as the number of miles divided by the miles per hour. No one knows how long it took him unless they knew his speed. Period. If he was going 100...it would have taken even less time! Imagine that. Math.


p.s. No, I am not saying he went 100. It was an illustration.

[bsatis]

I watched the video. I don't think I have ever seen a witness reading off a paper before. I guess thats one way to keep a story straight.

She was looking at a picture of Michelle and Cassidy, not reading off of a paper. :cursing:

[reborn]

She was looking at a picture of Michelle and Cassidy, not reading off of a paper. :cursing:


Sure looked like she was reading to me.

[bsatis]

Sure looked like she was reading to me.


Both Linda and Meredith were looking down at a picture during their testimony. Now, make up something derogatory about that.

[Tia]

I watched the video. I don't think I have ever seen a witness reading off a paper before. I guess thats one way to keep a story straight.


Are you talking about Meredith?

[Barbara2]

Then why would you bother with them?

I don't. I have GPS.

[bsatis]

Are you talking about Meredith?

Yes, she/he was I believe.

[annalyzer]

I watched the video. I don't think I have ever seen a witness reading off a paper before. I guess thats one way to keep a story straight.


You've never seen victim impact statements being read in court? It happens all the time.

This was the first time I've heard publicly from Meredith. Sounded and looked genuine to me.

Where was Jason?

[Barbara2]

Sure looked like she was reading to me.

There were people in the courtroom today who saw the testimony with their own eyes. Michelle's mother and sister had a picture of Michelle and Cassidy to focus on to try and keep it together. I'm sure you can appreciate how difficult that testimony was for them. At some point, you need to realize that the most likely scenario is that you have been misled. Imagine if this were your daughter/sister. How would you feel?

[Tia]

Sure looked like she was reading to me.

And if she was, what difference would that make?

No comment on why Jason didn't show up..........again?

Both Meredith and Linda looked completely broken by the loss of Michelle.


IMO

[Tia]

You've never seen victim impact statements being read in court? It happens all the time.

This was the first time I've heard publicly from Meredith. Sounded and looked genuine to me.

Where was Jason?

I have seen that in just about every victim impact statment I have ever watched. Maybe the poster doesn't know that that is how it is usually done?

[caffeinated]

You've never seen victim impact statements being read in court? It happens all the time.

This was the first time I've heard publicly from Meredith. Sounded and looked genuine to me.

Where was Jason?

Probably hiding somewhere, wonder if he is drowning his sorrows tonight, texting his main squeeze and getting a beer buzz. He needs to wake up and get a job or turn himself in. I sure wish Meredith and Linda had Cassidy with them, altho not Michelle, I think she is probably a great comfort in their lives. I am so glad she will eventually be with them more time than not, and will be nurtured in their unconditional love
My opinion, and my opinion only

[reborn]

I don't. I have GPS.


You just said you found them to be wrong. How can you find them wrong if you don't look at them?

[Barbara2]

You just said you found them to be wrong. How can you find them wrong if you don't look at them?

It's because I found them wrong that I don't use them. Experience is a great teacher.

[kingbuff]

Lotta noise on the board tonight. Did anyone see anything new in the court hearing today? I kept looking and reading for a revelation, but was disappointed.

And where did the doll come from, anyway? Who placed it by Michelle's body? Nice touch by someone. Did Spivey mention fingerprints on the doll? Did Spivey mention why the cops waited more than a month before returning for the carpet section with the tiny footprints? Seems Spivey was rather particular about the info he released.

And why was Spivey testifying for this woman anyway? Seems to me a chief investigator would seek to kept himself 'neutral' or at least 'objective' toward someone he claims is a primary suspect. But maybe that only applies to the professionals.

[reborn]

You've never seen victim impact statements being read in court? It happens all the time.

This was the first time I've heard publicly from Meredith. Sounded and looked genuine to me.

Where was Jason?

I never seen a trial . You know what I was thinking watching Meredith today? I wish Michelle could have seen her look that nice. Michelle's death seems to have awakened Meredith.

[Tia]

Lotta noise on the board tonight. Did anyone see anything new in the court hearing today? I kept looking and reading for a revelation, but was disappointed.

And where did the doll come from, anyway? Who placed it by Michelle's body? Nice touch by someone. Did Spivey mention fingerprints on the doll? Did Spivey mention why the cops waited more than a month before returning for the carpet section with the tiny footprints? Seems Spivey was rather particular about the info he released.

And why was Spivey testifying for this woman anyway? Seems to me a chief investigator would seek to kept himself 'neutral' or at least 'objective' toward someone he claims is a primary suspect. But maybe that only applies to the professionals.

"This woman" happens to be the victim's mother. Det. Spivey happens to be the lead investigator.

[Barbara2]

I never seen a trial . You know what I was thinking watching Meredith today? I wish Michelle could have seen her look that nice. Michelle's death seems to have awakened Meredith.

From what I've read, I don't think Michelle was that shallow.

[Tia]

I never seen a trial . You know what I was thinking watching Meredith today? I wish Michelle could have seen her look that nice. Michelle's death seems to have awakened Meredith.

What do you mean by this post?

[Tia]

Probably hiding somewhere, wonder if he is drowning his sorrows tonight, texting his main squeeze and getting a beer buzz. He needs to wake up and get a job or turn himself in. I sure wish Meredith and Linda had Cassidy with them, altho not Michelle, I think she is probably a great comfort in their lives. I am so glad she will eventually be with them more time than not, and will be nurtured in their unconditional love
My opinion, and my opinion only



I wonder if today's events will effect the custody schedule at all? IMO, Cassidy should be as far away from the slayer as possible. Who knows what a desperate man would do, and Jason is definately a desperate man at this point. His life is over, all is lost.

JMO

[reborn]

From what I've read, I don't think Michelle was that shallow.


What do you mean? I thought it would make Michelle proud.

[kingbuff]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.

[reborn]

Lotta noise on the board tonight. Did anyone see anything new in the court hearing today? I kept looking and reading for a revelation, but was disappointed.

And where did the doll come from, anyway? Who placed it by Michelle's body? Nice touch by someone. Did Spivey mention fingerprints on the doll? Did Spivey mention why the cops waited more than a month before returning for the carpet section with the tiny footprints? Seems Spivey was rather particular about the info he released.

And why was Spivey testifying for this woman anyway? Seems to me a chief investigator would seek to kept himself 'neutral' or at least 'objective' toward someone he claims is a primary suspect. But maybe that only applies to the professionals.

First we've heard about the doll KB. No wonder LE couldn't figure why Cassie was clean.

[reborn]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.

It was my understanding from the custody there would be no videos shown of Cassie.

[caffeinated]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.

Go back to your bourbon, no permission needed, it was pre murder video obviously,
Please enlighten us on how JY is tonite,is he happy with the judgment/ Is he still moving on? Is he working at a real job yet?

[Tia]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.


That video has been out there for ages. If Jason was concerned, he had every right to show up and do something about it.

Obviously, he could have cared less.

JMO

[Allyson]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.

Raise you hand if you think the father asked his wife's permission before he boinked his wife's friend two times. Okay. Now, raise your hand if you think the husband should have asked his wife if his female camp friend could stay over for a few days while his wife was out of town. Okay. Now, raise your hand if you think the father should have asked Cassidy's permission to use her picture to troll the internet for dates.

Okay. Thanks.

[Tia]

It was my understanding from the custody there would be no videos shown of Cassie.

Oh Puuuhlease! That video can be found on any local news site whne doing a search for Jason Young. If Jason had a problem with it, he could have contacted them and had it removed.

Obviously, Jason could care less.

This hearing was about Cassidy and the loss she will suffer without her loving mother. That video drove the point home.



JMO

[kingbuff]

$15.6 million? That's the value the judge put on this young pregnant mother's life? What an insult! Hardly enough to build a mile of highway. Anything under $100 million would be an insult. Really. Anyone who deigns to put a monetary value on a life should....well, you get the idea. The judge was far too cheap.

[Allyson]

We learned today that:

We were not told the truth when we were told by the teacher that Jason had a nice family dinner with his wife and daughter before he hit the road for his <yawn and stretch> looooong trip to Hillsville.

Found out today that nooooo....Jason refused a nice homemade casserole because he wasn't hungry, but he stopped to eat an hour down the road?

I am so glad I didn't play follow the leader.

[reborn]

What do you mean by this post?
video of the old Meredith.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2044700/




Video of the new Meredith.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

[Tia]

Raise you hand if you think the father asked his wife's permission before he boinked his wife's friend two times. Okay. Now, raise your hand if you think the husband should have asked his wife if his female camp friend could stay over for a few days while his wife was out of town. Okay. Now, raise your hand if you think the father should have asked Cassidy's permission to use her picture to troll the internet for dates.

Okay. Thanks.

Very well said Allyson:thumbsup:

[Allyson]

$15.6 million? That's the value the judge put on this young pregnant mother's life? What an insult! Hardly enough to build a mile of highway. Anything under $100 million would be an insult. Really. Anyone who deigns to put a monetary value on a life should....well, you get the idea. The judge was far too cheap.

Jason put a value on Michelle's life a few months before she was murdered, and it was well below 100 mill. Yet another way Jason insulted his wife while she was alive.

It was enough to get Jason out of debt, though.

[reborn]

Go back to your bourbon, no permission needed, it was pre murder video obviously,
Please enlighten us on how JY is tonite,is he happy with the judgment/ Is he still moving on? Is he working at a real job yet?


Why are you accusing this poster of drinking? I think that is against TOS.

[Tia]

video of the old Meredith.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2044700/




Video of the new Meredith.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6711003

She is thinner. Big deal. Her sister was murdered and she has some other health issues that contributed to her weight loss. She will loose even more taking care of a 5 year old!! Lots of running around after them:biggrin:

[caffeinated]

Why are you accusing this poster of drinking? I think that is against TOS.

Then get me banned, I can come back as born again or some such foolishness

[achristie]

We learned today that:

We were not told the truth when we were told by the teacher that Jason had a nice family dinner with his wife and daughter before he hit the road for his <yawn and stretch> looooong trip to Hillsville.

Found out today that nooooo....Jason refused a nice homemade casserole because he wasn't hungry, but he stopped to eat an hour down the road?

I am so glad I didn't play follow the leader.

Not to mention the bloody baby footprints by her mother's side.

[reborn]

Then get me banned, I can come back as born again or some such foolishness


You are one rude person.

[kingbuff]

Premeditated? Is he serious? Jason's computer search proved that? He researched how to beat someone to death? He decided that was the best way to kill his wife? And then had to chase her around the small bedroom, spraying blood everywhere?

I think Investigator Spivey should have another scenario in mind just in case that one doesn't work out.

[reborn]

Not to mention the bloody baby footprints by her mother's side.


I thought the footprints were by the closet?

[caffeinated]

You are one rude person.

took lessons from you... how many nics have you had??????

[Tia]

Premeditated? Is he serious? Jason's computer search proved that? He researched how to beat someone to death? He decided that was the best way to kill his wife? And then had to chase her around the small bedroom, spraying blood everywhere?

I think Investigator Spivey should have another scenario in mind just in case that one doesn't work out.

IMO, his scenario is right on. Death Penalty will be on the table, this explains the 2 + year delay.


JMO

[Allyson]

Not to mention the bloody baby footprints by her mother's side.


ooooooh, yeah. Forgot about that.

We have been told all along that there were no bloody baby footprints anywhere in the home except in the hall bathroom, right? Didn't a poster here claim to have seen the actual pictures of the crime scene?

Another lie that I accepted as the truth. I KNEW I should have asked for a link!

[Doorbell]

And the poignant moment when the lawyer played the touching video of the young mother and her baby....was that touching moment to convince the judge how valuable Michelle was so he would up the judgment money? These lawyers have their tricks, but I would hope the judge's eyes were dry ("not a dry eye....") and he was versed in lawyer's tricks.

And by the way....raise your hand if you think Linda got the father's permission to shop that tender video of his child to the "news" vendors a year or so before she showed it to the judge. Okay. Now raise your hand if you think Linda or anyone else should seek a father's permission before violating his baby's privacy. Okay. Thanks.

Raise your hand if you think Jason violated a lot more than the privacy of his wife and unborn son!

[achristie]

And if she was, what difference would that make?

No comment on why Jason didn't show up..........again?

Both Meredith and Linda looked completely broken by the loss of Michelle.


IMO

Indeed. They must be exhausted this evening. I know I am, and I wasn't even a part of it.

MOO Aggie

[Doorbell]

$15.6 million? That's the value the judge put on this young pregnant mother's life? What an insult! Hardly enough to build a mile of highway. Anything under $100 million would be an insult. Really. Anyone who deigns to put a monetary value on a life should....well, you get the idea. The judge was far too cheap.

Why would Cassidy need a mile of highway?

[caffeinated]

Raise your hand if you think Jason violated a lot more than the privacy of his wife and unborn son!

both hands :thumbsup:

[kingbuff]

Go back to your bourbon, no permission needed, it was pre murder video obviously,
Please enlighten us on how JY is tonite,is he happy with the judgment/ Is he still moving on? Is he working at a real job yet?

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.

[trucrime]

Raise your hand if you think Jason violated a lot more than the privacy of his wife and unborn son!

Raising both hands & everyones hands around me! IMO.

[Allyson]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.

LOL, you are funny in a sick and twisted kind of way. It's sad, really.

Jason couldn't go down to the Sears in town and buy himself a new pair of Franklin's right now.

[trucrime]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.

Im sure his mentors have already informed him. IMO.

[annalyzer]

We learned today that:

We were not told the truth when we were told by the teacher that Jason had a nice family dinner with his wife and daughter before he hit the road for his <yawn and stretch> looooong trip to Hillsville.

Found out today that nooooo....Jason refused a nice homemade casserole because he wasn't hungry, but he stopped to eat an hour down the road?

I am so glad I didn't play follow the leader.

What is the significance of him stopping somewhere to eat?

[caffeinated]

[QUOTE=kingbuff;12900057]I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.[/QUOTE

No reconsideration needed...maybe u should...
Wow, guess he is really in hiding if he doesn't know the results of the decision today, what is he afraid of????

[Tia]

Im sure his mentors have already informed him. IMO.


Oh, he knows! Its been all over the local news stations!!

And I don't think he'll be "paying THIS bill and moving on".....


JMO

[jerzeegirl]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.



He'll pay it? LOL, now thats hilarious

[jerzeegirl]

What is the significance of him stopping somewhere to eat?


Well it was stated in court today that the GA friend said she brought casserole for jason and michelle and that jason said he wasnt hungry, he left, stopped at cracker barrel. Other than that IDK.

[Allyson]

What is the significance of him stopping somewhere to eat?


He refused a home cooked meal because he was not hungry, but yet stopped to eat at a Cracker Barrel an hour or so later. He chose to stop at a non- fast food restaurant that serves huge portions of southern style food. Thick, greasy stick to your ribs made with lard kind of food. Not a quick bite to eat because he wanted to get down the road to get as close to his meeting as possible before he retired for the night. Makes no sense.

[achristie]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.


The same father that shopped his daughter's photo on Craigs list ?
That father? The one that said his daughter is the center of his universe? Is she the same daughter that he said pissed on the floor? The same daughter he was annoyed with when the power went out? The same daughter that prevented him from doing yard work?
Is he the same man that said to the little girl's mother " I could kill you,
I'm in a worse mood than Myrtle beach"?
The same father that could care less who picks his daughter up from school?
Someone needs to get that father's permission?
You doubt he knows about the judgement?
Are you kidding me?
Of course he knows about it.
Glad to hear he will quickly pay the bill when it comes.
I trust that, you being the family spokesman, and all.
Just let him know it won't be one bill.
It will be several.

MOO Aggie

[Stellagant]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.

Spivey and officials in the sheriff's office apparently are not on the same page. Officials said Jason is not a suspect.

http://www.newsobserver.com/1565/story/1445471.html

[Tia]

The same father that shopped his daughter's photo on Craigs list ?
That father? The one that said his daughter is the center of his universe? Is she the same daughter that he said pissed on the floor? The same daughter he was annoyed with when the power went out? The same daughter that prevented him from doing yard work?
Is he the same man that said to the little girl's mother " I could kill you,
I'm in a worse mood than Myrtle beach"?
The same father that could care less who picks his daughter up from school?
Someone needs to get that father's permission?
You doubt he knows about the judgement?
Are you kidding me?
Of course he knows about it.
Glad to hear he will quickly pay the bill when it comes.
I trust that, you being the family spokesman, and all.
Just let him know it won't be one bill.
It will be several.

MOO Aggie


What a great Daddy!!

barfbarf

[Doorbell]

I hope it was pre-murder video, whatever that means. Maybe it means it's okay to shop around video of a child without the father's permission? You oughta reconsider that.

About Jason? I doubt he knows about the judgment. I should think when he gets the bill he'll pay it and then move on.

Considering that it was a video of MICHELLE and Cassidy, it had to be made before Michelle's death.

Showing it in court is hardly "shopping it around." It has been on the news sites before this. Get over it.

Let us know how Jason will pay the $15,000,000 bill. TIA.

[Stellagant]

Well it was stated in court today that the GA friend said she brought casserole for jason and michelle and that jason said he wasnt hungry, he left, stopped at cracker barrel. Other than that IDK.

Is it an impossibility that over an hour later he might actually be hungry? I hardly see how the tidbit that he stopped to eat is proof of murder. The DA must not believe it's worthy evidence. Still no indictment and officials STILL won't call him a suspect.

[Stellagant]

What is the significance of him stopping somewhere to eat?

If anything, it shows normal behavior. Certainly hasn't managed to get the guy indicted.