Monday 3/9 Hope for Haleigh

[omsk99]

I'm not suprised at posts like this, matter of fact I expected to see more. Enabling seems to be an epidemic in our world at this time.

moo

I understand that the reason for your post here was the word "enabling", but unfortunately it has no point, apart from the continuous bashing, which frankly is getting quite old.

JMO

[kitty1182]

Exactly - great observation!

The worst day of your life (child abducted)......the happiest day of your life (your wedding day)......

The two TOGETHER, just do NOT jive! :confused:

imo

Not by a long shot.......

[kitty1182]

It has nothing to do with privilege. It is just common sense! And you can count me in that camp!

Scoot over, I'm in too........

[kitty1182]

Don't know about you Kitty, I'm looking forward to cousin Joe being named the best man.

moo

You know, that would not surprise me one bit......
I am appauled at this......:cursing:

[breeze53]

It's all about the white dress doncha know...... Haleigh wanted it. :confused:


Well they must know shes not comeing home or they would wait until she did to get married. jmo:sad::sad:

[emdragon]

Makes me wonder if this was really what Haleigh wanted. hmmm

Get rid of Haleigh and then she get proposed to? Jealousy and competition for Ron?

I can't believe how happy she was in that video. My god Haleigh is missing.

We all know from the Caylee case that tv stations pay a licensing fee for videos and pics. So I wonder if that is where the money is coming from for the tats, ring and wedding? I am sick to my stomach thinking about making money off a little girl. Just like Casey and them have.

imo

Isn't the licensing fees paid to the station where the video originates by other stations that want to use it? Never heard of the family being paid for video's of on the street/candid interviews.

Just wondering for all of those who have Ron strung up has there been an actual comment by him or Teresa on this news yet? I've only read Misti.
And does this really change your opinion that much from this morning that you would now think this man isn't dying inside for his daughter?

Poor PR moves aside how does it change his pain? If you honestly believed what you saw this morning this shouldn't change that.

How you think of him- sure, but if you felt he honestly loved and missed Haleigh and had nothing to do with her going missing this morning how does this really change that?

[omsk99]

Tell that to Ed Smart!!
Well I guess someone has to defend him! Good luck with that!!

That's what defense attorneys are for. All I look for is logic, and I see no logic in bashing & criticizing a family of a missing child, who - mind you - did not ask for their 'celebrity status'.

[sinagua]

Ronald is beginning to remind me of Drew P.

"If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas." MOO

[omsk99]

It has nothing to do with privilege or arrogance. It is just common sense! And you can count me in that camp!

You honestly don't think the last question in that post was arrogant or condescending or humiliating (towards the Cummings & Misty)? Then, I guess, you are rightfully counted in that camp...

[kitty1182]

Well they must know shes not comeing home or they would wait until she did to get married. jmo:sad::sad:

Yeah, she could be the flower girl........:sad:

[jammies]

Well they must know shes not comeing home or they would wait until she did to get married. jmo:sad::sad:


Good thinking, breezie.

(hope hubby is feeling better)

[Texas48]

It seems the paternal side of the family shows much more grief emotion than the people on the maternal side. The maternal side's emotions seems to be directed at anger toward RC. I don't know if this means anything as I guess some people are more emotional than others. But when the paternal side is interviewed, they break you heart. They are totally devastated. JMOI do believe that all people grieve in different ways.I do think that Ron's mom seems to be closer(grandma/grandkid) because she is around them much more than Crystal's mom is. This will make a difference. I have 7 grandkids and they each make up the pieces of my heart. I did take full-time care of my last grandson from the time he was 1year old to this day. There is a difference. He sees his other grandma every month or so and he does love her but is not as "close" to her as he is me. I just get a "feeling" that TN was around the kids more. jmo

[omsk99]

Scroll on by!!!!

I will; no wonder almost all the posters who were here in the beginning must be either 'scrolling on by' or have left the forum. That's very unfortunate, because the focus here completely shifted towards bad-mouthing and judging everyone involved. Have fun :rolleyes:

[Mimi428]

They would not have spousal privilege.


Thanks! I appreciate that info. I didn't think that it probably would, but who knows how it will work from one state to another.

Thank goodness Florida is not a state which recognizes common law marriage. But even if they were in a state that did, I don't think the two of them could give convincing enough testimony to claim they already had a common law marriage. She didn't use his last name, no one has claimed they presented themselves as married, etc. They started living together in November, so I seriously doubt they would have filed a joint tax return.

What a horribly misguided choice. I'm just floored by this.

JMO

[Leather&Lace]

:crying:

I've been thinking, amidst all the talk, I wonder if someone within LE has explained the odds of finding this child alive to Haleigh's family?

For every day that passes and Haleigh is not found, the odds of finding her alive are slim. I just hope that somewhere between the mud slinging, tattoo's and media drama that someone is straight talking to the family.

Tragic that another child is missing and no sign of where she may be or who took her. Well, that is unless LE has their theory and they are in a wait mode.
Praying for Haleigh

[5boxersmom]

Isn't the licensing fees paid to the station where the video originates by other stations that want to use it? Never heard of the family being paid for video's of on the street/candid interviews.

Just wondering for all of those who have Ron strung up has there been an actual comment by him or Teresa on this news yet? I've only read Misti.
And does this really change your opinion that much from this morning that you would now think this man isn't dying inside for his daughter?

Poor PR moves aside how does it change his pain? If you honestly believed what you saw this morning this shouldn't change that.

How you think of him- sure, but if you felt he honestly loved and missed Haleigh and had nothing to do with her going missing this morning how does this really change that?



I am talking about the home video's of Haleigh. We all know Casey was paid for ones of Caylee.

I never saw the video of Ron this morning. So I can't give an opinion. Do you have a link?

I don't know what to think of any of this family at this point. I tried to give Ron the benefit of the doubt but it is getting really hard to do.

imo

[odyssey]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Larger report .. quotes from Misty and her mother.

[breeze53]

Isn't the licensing fees paid to the station where the video originates by other stations that want to use it? Never heard of the family being paid for video's of on the street/candid interviews.

Just wondering for all of those who have Ron strung up has there been an actual comment by him or Teresa on this news yet? I've only read Misti.
And does this really change your opinion that much from this morning that you would now think this man isn't dying inside for his daughter?

Poor PR moves aside how does it change his pain? If you honestly believed what you saw this morning this shouldn't change that.

How you think of him- sure, but if you felt he honestly loved and missed Haleigh and had nothing to do with her going missing this morning how does this really change that?

My 2 cent is Haleigh would be the first and ONLY thing on my mind right now.
Marrige can come later finding my missing child would be the only thing i would want.
Take the money you have spent on rings, tatoos, gas money you have spent takeing the 2 to 3 hr trip to get the tat, money you spent at the engament party and put it all on a PI to help find your missing daughter. jmo

[Mimi428]

"Do you Misty, take the man that called you all of those degrading names on the 911 call to be your beloved husband?"


I'm sorry Haleigh. This should be all about you sweetheart. Not about wedding bells, not about tattoos...........praying for your safe return

OMiGosh - now Misty can look forward be being called his dumb, effing, b!t@h WIFE.

Already got the marriage license. I guess when Haleigh was telling the two of them how much she wanted them to get married, she forgot to say "And I can be the flower girl!".

This is utterly sickening.

JMO

[Ice Cycle]

I'm stunned. Marriage? At this time? :ohmy: Ron just does whatever HE feels like doing.

Where is all this money coming from? Ron isn't working right now, is he? Where did he get the money for those rings (the diamond) and the tattoos?! Who paid for the family Chilis Engagement Dinner?

imo

He is not that stupid and he knew people would be thinking these things and how it would look on him. If he didn't I am sure his Mother told him that. Can see a 17 year old being gitty.
More to this than meets the eye.

[Texas48]

For the life of me I cannot get passed this :

I'm 17, home with two very young children. I wake in the middle of the night and see the kitchen light on that I did not leave on and the back door wide open, with the screen propped open.

Now I'm to believe that I wouldn't freak out immediately and dial 911?????? 20 to 25 minutes later, 911 is called, but all this time Misty remains in the house alone where a potential intruder may be???? Why was she only concerned about Haleigh missing? Why wasn't she concerned for her own safety and that of Jr?

I just can't process that information. I can't get passed it I TRY (not easy) to put myself back to be 17 years old(now that would be a miracle) and I awoke..found the light on..back door open..Being close to the time Ron came home I would have thought maybe it was Ron. IMO most kids that age really don't have the fear that older people have. They have not seen the evil in the world. But....if she was scared/concerned then YES..she should have grabbed JR and RAN to the neighbors screaming at top of her lungs. Even when Ron got home and 911 was called did he go outside the MH and scream Haleigh's name? Did he go to the neighbors screaming for help? There are many things in this case that are off track. jmo

[playnice]

Has anyone but me noticed that the mornings start out with posters happy and peppy and bursting with joy, and as the day goes on the backs go up and the claws come out?

I try to stay away when there is bickering and drama and I try to respect everyone opinion even if I dont agree.
I think this latest development and Misti looking so happy when a child is missing and she was the last known person to see her has stunned everyone.

I understand why everyone is in an uproar.

If there is nothing sinister at all at the very least its very inappropriate. How could you be so happy when a child that you claimed you loves as your own is missing and most likely dead?

[emdragon]

Ha!! It appears with today's news that's exactly what Ron is looking for. Celebrity status.

Tell you what. Why don't you start a wedding fund for him. Bet he would love that.

moo

If Ron wanted Celebrity status why didn't he make the big announcement on the morning shows?
That sure would have gotten a bigger reaction.

[Leather&Lace]

My 2 cent is Haleigh would be the first and ONLY thing on my mind right now.
Marrige can come later finding my missing child would be the only thing i would want.
Take the money you have spent on rings, tatoos, gas money you have spent takeing the 2 to 3 hr trip to get the tat, money you spent at the engament party and put it all on a PI to help find your missing daughter. jmo


ITA!

I have always heard that it is not wise to make major decisions when under emotional stress. It is beyond me how the subject of marriage can be discussed in the face of this tragedy! The only priority should be finding Haleigh.
Speechless.

JMO

[Leather&Lace]

Whether LE explained the odds or not, getting engaged and your bride to be giddy as all get out, while your daughter could possibly be laying out in the elements with her body being ravaged by animals and buzzards brings me to the point of vomiting.

moo

I could not agree with you more!

[DenVIP]

WOW is all I can say. I guess, for whatever reason, you feel so privileged that you feel it's OK to be so judgmental and arrogant :blushing: (for you)

I can be judgmental because I actuall feel sad about a missing child....but I guess you think 4 weeks is long enough to grieve and move on.....

[emdragon]

Because regardless of whether he had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearanc or did, whether Misty or someone else in the family did or did not, the point here is he should have used his common sense and realized that proposing and marriage is inappropriate at this time. He should have realized that this would cast doubt upon him, whether deserved or not. He should have known that right now, everything should be about Haleigh and not his and Misty's upcoming happiness. It is in bad taste so close to the time she went missing. Maybe 6 months or a year from now, sure if nothing is solved, then yeah, start slowly moving on with your life and pick yourself up, but now?

I don't believe he had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance and I believe his tears and broken heart was genuine this morning, but on the heels of that you have Misty beaming and laughing away about her engagement...sorry I had to gag for a minute...

JMO

Well that was my point- you don't like what has transpired today but you still believe he loves his daughter,is in pain and wasn't involved.

There are posters who had an "epiphany" this morning that he was innocent who are now sure he is guilty.

Poor timing, illogical, self destructive & irrational to purpose at this time- but all of those things are classic responses to severe depression and PTSD

[breeze53]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Larger report .. quotes from Misty and her mother.

ummmmmmmmmmm he wouldn't even walk to the truck with her:scared:

[n/t]

Fasten Your Seat Belts!!! Your Going To Be In For A Bumpy Ride!!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Ron has asked Misty to marry him!

This is just awful. So inappropriate when his baby girl is still missing. I can't believe this news. Their focus should be on finding Haleigh not on getting an engagement ring, a marriage license and setting a wedding date. This is so wrong. :sad:

[odyssey]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Larger report .. quotes from Misty and her mother.


I am frustrated because my computer for some reason will not play the full interview with Misty mentioned within the above article.

I did notice in the small part of the interview they showed when they were speaking about the engagement that the earlier report was a little slanted. Misty did not really speak about Haleigh in the past tense. Misty said, "She's always talked about about." It's a small distinction but worth noting.

jmoo

[Texas48]

That's where i am too. Questioning my empathy or sympathy or whatever. I don't think Ron hurt Haleigh. Not sure what I think of Misty.
I don'tcare if Ron puts Haleighs face all over himself, it just really was a bad move at the time.

And to remark about whether Crystal should have kept her mouth shut about Ron, well, that is part of why we like to follow certain cases, the juice. If we are to be honest about it. If Crystal, Ron or Misty turned up in dirty photos (like Casey) you can't tell me we wouldn't be ALL over that.What each poster said was good. And I will say and I believe most will agree it is the JUICE of a case that keeps the media/public/US GREAT POSTERS/ coming back day after day. The Anthony case will always come to mind. It had all kinds even down to squirells and a toothpick chewing drug store cowboy. Will stop cause it is O/T. Anyway...so good to have good friends to post with...discuss with. Thanks ALL. jmo

[emdragon]

Thanks! I appreciate that info. I didn't think that it probably would, but who knows how it will work from one state to another.

Thank goodness Florida is not a state which recognizes common law marriage. But even if they were in a state that did, I don't think the two of them could give convincing enough testimony to claim they already had a common law marriage. She didn't use his last name, no one has claimed they presented themselves as married, etc. They started living together in November, so I seriously doubt they would have filed a joint tax return.

What a horribly misguided choice. I'm just floored by this.

JMO

YVW Mimi

Very odd choice for sure but it doesn't change my opinion of Ron as far as the case goes- and It sure showed Misti's true colors I think.

I don't believe Ron is rational right now- and asking her to get married and actually saying "I Do" are two different things.
(Heck I have friends who did the whole gather all the kids at a restaurant he purposed ring and all- she said yes they still aren't married almost 3 years later. but they did just buy a house together lol)

[Stellagant]

If Ron wanted Celebrity status why didn't he make the big announcement on the morning shows?
That sure would have gotten a bigger reaction.

My best guess is that someone has offered to pay for the rights to the wedding photos and it is an opportunity Ron couldn't pass up. People with no money get silly when they receive it in a windfall.

Which now begs the question: Was Haleigh really kidnapped? Or did Misty just stash her somewhere so that the disappearance could be exploited for profit?

[RoxyWest]

Well they must know shes not comeing home or they would wait until she did to get married. jmo:sad::sad:

Exactly! If this is what Haleigh wanted, surely Haleigh would want to be there. Their timing is unbelievable.

[Leather&Lace]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Larger report .. quotes from Misty and her mother.


TY for posting this link.

All I can say is that it may cause people who would donate or have been donating to back off.
Obviously, this family is not in as much pain and grief as I initially thought. There is no way a proposal of marriage fits into this tragedy!

An engagement announcement is just in extremely poor taste IMO!

[TxLady2]

I definitely agree with you on the urgency in one's voice thing. Also, it seems that you would throw your manners out the door if you were calling in during an emergency. If you were calling 911 because you were the culprit and you knew it had to be done eventually, you would most likely practice the conversation and it would be more polite.
I tried to be polite when I called 911 when my son had a seizure but I really can't even remember if I was or what I said. I would like to think that I said "my son" and "you have to hurry" probably a lot of times. I do remember being very impatient with them because they just weren't getting there as soon as I wanted them there.

We had to call 911 several years ago when our son had a seizure, but my husband talked to them so I don't know what he said. He doesn't usually panic, it's me that freaks out.
I did call them when my mother had a stroke about 15 years ago, but all I had to say was her name and address, and what happened, they were there in 5 minutes. We live in a very small town, all the emergency personnel know the family.
They expect people to be frightened, or panic, and they do try to calm the caller down, but it helps to remember that adding details they don't need right then just slows them down. It's not necessary to tell them, "I just got home from work" or "I was watching and just turned my back for a second." There is time for all that later, all they need to know is who you are, where you live, if the victim is still breathing, and so on. THEY ask the questions, YOU provide the answers, but not all at one time.

[playnice]

Could this marriage proposal be a ploy from LE? Im so stunned I cant think of any reason why he would do this except not good thoughts.

[emdragon]

I am talking about the home video's of Haleigh. We all know Casey was paid for ones of Caylee.

I never saw the video of Ron this morning. So I can't give an opinion. Do you have a link?

I don't know what to think of any of this family at this point. I tried to give Ron the benefit of the doubt but it is getting really hard to do.

imo

Oh yeah totally different, I'm on the same page with you now.

Video's have come from both sides of the family right?

I don't have the links but they were posted in the first few pages of today's thread - Ron was on GMA/Today show one or both of those I'm not sure.

[n/t]

Some very interesting comments on that link. Why is Ron marrying Misty now?

[FoxySly]

I am still just stunned by this news. It could be because he is afraid he will be arrested for shacking with Misti but the part that really really bothers me is this happened today and wasnt it Friday that the 2 state attorneys showed up?

If it turns out Ron had any involvement with Haleighs disappearance I will have been taken in for the 2nd time by guys in the past week.
(Bachelor Jason shocked me. I thought he was a decent guy).
Ive never until this moment doubted Ron. I just dont know what to think now.


Who in the heck is "Bachelor Jason"???
This is the first I have heard of him & I have followed this case since day 1.

TIA
Sly


~

[Leather&Lace]

From the Misty video, "This is what Haleigh always wanted".

I would have said, "This is what Haleigh wants".

Not sure why Misty uses words that make me think she is talking in the past tense. It could just be her lack of grammar skills. Not sure but the video sure made me want to hurl.

JMO

[emdragon]

Could this marriage proposal be a ploy from LE? Im so stunned I cant think of any reason why he would do this except not good thoughts.

I know some here think that very idea is hilarious but is it really so out of the question? After all look how at ease she is today and how she is feeling completely secure-and in my view it sure showed her true colors.

It will be interesting to see if LE interviews her again in the next couple of days.

[odyssey]

Could this marriage proposal be a ploy from LE? Im so stunned I cant think of any reason why he would do this except not good thoughts.

That crossed my mind as well. I am just not certain what to think. It would certainly put her at ease I would assume.

I did find Misty's mother to sound like she was telling the truth. I surely don't know that but she did say they had been after her to sign the papers for months now and since they were being trashed for the age thing she went ahead and decided to do it. She sounded genuine to me and it did not seem like a fabricated story.

I do, however think in general, at least from the outside looking in, think the timing is off. Maybe they are picking the papers up and they never get turned back in ..

I do not believe Ron had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.
I am not certain but I hope Misty had nothing to do with it and was honest about passing the ldt as well.

I really pray .. really pray that Haleigh is found soon. Alive i hope.


jmoo

[aproudmom]

Maybe he was lucky when he opened up his cracker jacks and there was a ring inside:shrug:

ok I know this is not the time to laugh but that was to funny I needed a good laugh thanks:laugh:

[emdragon]

From the Misty video, "This is what Haleigh wanted".

I would have said, "This is what Haleigh wants".

Not sure why Misty uses words that make me think she is talking in the past tense. It could just be her lack of grammar skills. Not sure but the video sure made me want to hurl.

JMO

I think this is one of the big problems with this case- Misti's complete lack of verbal skills. How can you tell if she is giving herself away or just not educated?

[DenVIP]

I think this is one of the big problems with this case- Misti's complete lack of verbal skills. How can you tell if she is giving herself away or just not educated?

to quote the police report ronald called he a "dumb *****" does that answer your question.....btw am I allowed to quote tthe police report....sorry in advance if its not allowed

[breeze53]

Sorry, my bad. This news has my blood pressure up and I think...I think I am running a fever. No that is me getting seriously hot over the link I viewed of Misty beaming and laughing...sorry, got to go throw up again...


Havent they only been going together 6 or 7 months? Mistys mom said they have been wanting to do this for 5 months I dont buy that story what so ever.

[Larkin]

Still shaking my head at this whole thing...but Misty's mother has to have a loose screw or two to let her minor daughter get married to a guy that has trashed her verbally himself on the 911 call. Wonder what goes on behind closed doors? *shivers* :sad:

Dumb Bio4@# sound familiar?

[5boxersmom]

Here's the link boxer. Today show this am.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29593696#29593696

TY. I just was watching it and saw your link when I came back.

Ron does seem heartbroken in that interview but I just don't know.

imo

[march27]

I understand that the reason for your post here was the word "enabling", but unfortunately it has no point, apart from the continuous bashing, which frankly is getting quite old.

JMO

Lol I thought the same thing. Some of the evil things being said on this board are crazy. You should be ashamed of yourselves, at this point all we know is that Ron, Misty and Crystal are not suspects and should not be continually bashed for the choices they are currently making. For heavens sake they have lost their little girl and yet most of you feel entitled to come on here and make yourselves feel better saying the most vile things. I have just one question.. how to you sleep at night?

Ps can we open another thread for those of us interested in finding Haleigh and not spreading hate?

[DenVIP]

There were together a whole 7 months.....wow!
let me see I'm 54 been married 31 years, and get this to the same women, can you believe it.....oh and I only have 2 boys.....oh yeah with the same woman;;;;;;geez thats just wierd......golly I need a 17 year old too.....oh wait that gets me jail....shucks....guess I'm keepin mine then......oh and btw when my boys go on vacation and I dont hear from them for a few days I pound there cell phone till they call

Guuess if I had a 5 year missing I would put off my social life a bit, but thats just me

Sorry for the rant but I'm PO

[breeze53]

I don't know if I just read this wrong somewhere, but I thought they (Ron and Misty) said they had been dating for 5 months, not 7 when interviewed before. Please correct me if I am wrong.

And even if they had been dating for 3 years, when Haleigh went missing, all plans for marriage would go out the window...

Of course this is jmo.
It would be out the window to if it was me and i think i heard 5 months to but i have heard so much i am about brain dead:w00t:

[crymeariver2006]

Lol I thought the same thing. Some of the evil things being said on this board are crazy. You should be ashamed of yourselves, at this point all we know is that Ron, Misty and Crystal are not suspects and should not be continually bashed for the choices they are currently making. For heavens sake they have lost their little girl and yet most of you feel entitled to come on here and make yourselves feel better saying the most vile things. I have just one question.. how to you sleep at night?

Ps can we open another thread for those of us interested in finding Haleigh and not spreading hate?

The police, to my knowledge, have not ruled out either Ron, Misty, or Crystal and they are still considered suspects with "the whole world".

Unless you have a link where they've been cleared?

[Leather&Lace]

TY. I just was watching it and saw your link when I came back.

Ron does seem heartbroken in that interview but I just don't know.

imo

There is no question that Ron has always seemed genuine to me in his grief. I am just floored with the engagement! So inappropriate with his little 5 year old missing. I would just have a problem finding any joy in life right now if my child was gone. I do not understand it at all.

Honestly, it makes me wonder if there is a reason for an engagement right now. How can you eat out and celebrate an engagement under the circumstances of not knowing where your baby is located. Especially not knowing if she is alive or dead.
Shocking to say the least!

[aproudmom]

I know some here think that very idea is hilarious but is it really so out of the question? After all look how at ease she is today and how she is feeling completely secure-and in my view it sure showed her true colors.

It will be interesting to see if LE interviews her again in the next couple of days.

I am still wondering she said LE said she past the Lie Det test has anyone been told that? I think she is just thinking since it has been a month she passed I see no reason for LE not to release the LD test to clear her. IMO

[Peaches]

Well that was my point- you don't like what has transpired today but you still believe he loves his daughter,is in pain and wasn't involved.

There are posters who had an "epiphany" this morning that he was innocent who are now sure he is guilty.

Poor timing, illogical, self destructive & irrational to purpose at this time- but all of those things are classic responses to severe depression and PTSD


Excellent post................and I agree with everything you said here.

[aproudmom]

The police, to my knowledge, have not ruled out either Ron, Misty, or Crystal and they are still considered suspects with "the whole world".

Unless you have a link where they've been cleared?

If anyone has seen it I guess I missed it the last I heard NO ONE had been cleared so I guess if anyone post they have then they should share the link with us.

[crymeariver2006]

I dont have a link but I called and he no longer is employed there. I think i got the same woman who had told me the shift hrs when I called a couple weeks back.:w00t: All she would say is he is no longer employed.

Are you freakin' kidding me????

:ohmy:

I read on another board that all his co-workers were donating leave time and such so that he would still be paid!

Surely he didn't get fired because Haleigh is missing? And surely he wouldn't quit a job when they're so scarce.

[Leather&Lace]

I dont have a link but I called and he no longer is employed there. I think i got the same woman who had told me the shift hrs when I called a couple weeks back.:w00t: All she would say is he is no longer employed.


That is not surprising to me at all. Ron most likely called and said he would not be coming back to work. You know that company would not have fired him under the circumstances.

Guess with the money, oops I mean donations rolling in he did not feel the need to hold on to the job. The Anthony's do not work either but yet are managing just fine from what I can tell. Disgusting to me actually.

I did not think much about the tattoo's thinking his way of handling his grief. With the engagement, I feel totally different. Poor choice. Makes me sick.

JMO

[emdragon]

Are you freakin' kidding me????

:ohmy:

I read on another board that all his co-workers were donating leave time and such so that he would still be paid!

Surely he didn't get fired because Haleigh is missing? And surely he wouldn't quit a job when they're so scarce.

I read the same thing cry. I'd guess the receptionist is just tired of nosy internet folks bothering her during the work day so she said he doesn't work there any more so they will all stop calling. :biggrin:

[aproudmom]

I dont have a link but I called and he no longer is employed there. I think i got the same woman who had told me the shift hrs when I called a couple weeks back.:w00t: All she would say is he is no longer employed.

Oh my I thought I heard he was just on a leave and co-workers were helping. Do you think they just said that to keep media away?

[IM4Truth]

There is no question that Ron has always seemed genuine to me in his grief. I am just floored with the engagement! So inappropriate with his little 5 year old missing. I would just have a problem finding any joy in life right now if my child was gone. I do not understand it at all.

Honestly, it makes me wonder if there is a reason for an engagement right now. How can you eat out and celebrate an engagement under the circumstances of not knowing where your baby is located. Especially not knowing if she is alive or dead.
Shocking to say the least!

Is there something about not having to testify against your spouse?

[TxLady2]

You know what really bothers me? Aside from the timing of this marriage thing right now and his apparent disregard for his little girl being possibly dead.... he was not man enough to marry the mother of his two children, but is eager to marry the girl who was supposed to be taking care of them. Crystal should be feeling very insulted about now. He got her pregnant, twice, but did not respect her enough to marry her, and now he is marrying Misty. Does he have no shame.
This is disgusting to me, I am floored!!
Haleigh, God Bless You, Sweetheart!! We love you and pray for you every day!

[aproudmom]

:beer:

Finally a voice of reason!

I agree the tat, the proposal and the 'engagement party' (like some here are calling it) could have been kept quiet...but isn't MY decision.

Apparently Ron trusts Misty's story is the truth.
He and his family seem to trust her even a month into this crime.

She hasn't been arrested no matter how many times she has been questioned.

They think they're in love. 'Nough said.

I would think we could/would better serve Haleigh if we don't trash her families decisions.

Even those we disagree with.

I would never trash any family that is going through this do I think it was good timing NO but that is just MO and I am not in thier shoes and not 17 and 25 either. I still do not think RC has any idea what happened to his daughter and I think they need to be looking for a PR person because misti should just shut her mouth she does not do well in front of the camera and RC pretty much does not want to be talked since the GR ambush. all JMO

[catdoc]

Sorry Folks the sympathy I had for Ron this am on the Today show, just went out the window. I'm now of the mind he is beginning to remind me of Drew Peterson.

moo

emdragon...no need to respond.

As if anybody that reads here thought you had even an IOTA of sympathy for Ron. Really, was that post a joke? You're the leading Ron Basher.

[emdragon]

You know what really bothers me? Aside from the timing of this marriage thing right now and his apparent disregard for his little girl being possibly dead.... he was not man enough to marry the mother of his two children, but is eager to marry the girl who was supposed to be taking care of them. Crystal should be feeling very insulted about now. He got her pregnant, twice, but did not respect her enough to marry her, and now he is marrying Misty. Does he have no shame.
This is disgusting to me, I am floored!!
Haleigh, God Bless You, Sweetheart!! We love you and pray for you every day!

And you know Ron was the one who didn't want to get married, How?

[crymeariver2006]

I read the same thing cry. I'd guess the receptionist is just tired of nosy internet folks bothering her during the work day so she said he doesn't work there any more so they will all stop calling. :biggrin:

What nosy internet folks?

breeze was kind enough to verify the shift hours so that was one less question we had regarding what time Ron was supposed to be at work. Some of us, after learning that, totally discounted his involvement in any way shape or form.

And, I expect, once this news gets around she'll be getting MORE calls, not less.

JMO

[IM4Truth]

Aha! Spousal privilege discussed on JVM. My first thoughts when I heard of the engagement.

[n/t]

Where is Junior in all of this? Is he still with Crystal? Is she getting custody?

[MrLucky917B]

to quote the police report ronald called he a "dumb *****" does that answer your question.....btw am I allowed to quote tthe police report....sorry in advance if its not allowed

Maybe that is a term of endearment in the south...

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Maybe that is a term of endearment in the south...

JMO

It is only if the retort is to knock someone's teeth out.

But maybe that's just my little corner of the south?

:laugh:

[n/t]

Aha! Spousal privilege discussed on JVM. My first thoughts when I heard of the engagement.

Many in the comments section of the link said the same thing.

1) Spousal privleges. She won't have to testify against him IF he is responsible.

2) He could avoid possible charges brought against him because she is underage but now has gotten parental consent to marry.

[breeze53]

Are you freakin' kidding me????

:ohmy:

I read on another board that all his co-workers were donating leave time and such so that he would still be paid!

Surely he didn't get fired because Haleigh is missing? And surely he wouldn't quit a job when they're so scarce.

I am not kidding that's what the lady said when I called today but she did ask me to not call back. She said I was the 10th person who had called asking that same question. Maybe there just not giveing out the right info because I found it hard to believe he no longer worked there either. I dont think anyone could fire you for takeing a LOA espically when your child is missing. And most places do chip in and help when you have to be out for awhile at least they do where i live.

[IM4Truth]

Many in the comments section of the link said the same thing.

1) Spousal privleges. She won't have to testify against him IF he is responsible.

2) He could avoid possible charges brought against him because she is underage but now has gotten parental consent to marry.

Wouldn't it work both ways? He wouldn't have to testify against her too IF she is responsible?

[odyssey]

I've been reading the Danielle Van Damme(sp) case. These cases scare me so. I fear for my son to even play on our front stoop with the door open.

I've been wondering if someone could have been playing peeping tom for some days at the mobile home and perhaps saw Haleigh get up to get a drink .. she went into the kitchen, turned on the light, maybe spilled some water on her shirt and took it off to change it and he came in and took her, either bumping the lock or the door was unlocked. I mean what I wonder is if someone had been peeping in the window(s) for more than just that one night and everything just kinda .. came together .. in a bad way... that night.


jmoo

[aproudmom]

And you know Ron was the one who didn't want to get married, How?

I agree with you we don't know that maybe crystal did not want to marry him who knows? I dont. I have never heard crystal say anything about him not wanting to marry her if anyone knows can you post a link for us please.

[IM4Truth]

White dress, huh? How about off-white just to be honest. Better yet maybe Misty's dress should be made out of an American flag, off-the-shoulder-like. Yeah, let's party! So inappropriate this marriage bit at this particular time. I do not know how either one can look forward to "living happily ever after". Is this going to be a church wedding? God, knows!

Not only that but where will they live? They have to break up camp and he doesn't want to live in the house where his daughter went missing. I don't understand that. I would want to be right there in that house waiting for her to come home!

[crymeariver2006]

Wouldn't it work both ways? He wouldn't have to testify against her too IF she is responsible?

I think someone posted the actual statute, spousal privilege DOES NOT apply to a crime committed before the marriage and if the crime involves a child victim, it wouldn't apply PERIOD.

IIRC

[VC2]

Well that was my point- you don't like what has transpired today but you still believe he loves his daughter,is in pain and wasn't involved.

There are posters who had an "epiphany" this morning that he was innocent who are now sure he is guilty.

Poor timing, illogical, self destructive & irrational to purpose at this time- but all of those things are classic responses to severe depression and PTSD

ITA. honestly i think ptsd is the best explanation bc it really is awful timing for the public but I still believe he is not guilty in any way.

Perhaps he just needs to feel something is still whole, we know that he believes misty and has so it makes sense if you look at it from that perspective that he wants to cement that or prove it if that makes sense.

Also...you know kids who like the partner of a parent often want them to marry so i believe that, and can just see ron being silly enough to think it is the right thing to do for her.

No it isn't smart or rational but then again, it probably is a little much for us to think he is rational right now.

[Peaches]

As if anybody that reads here thought you had even an IOTA of sympathy for Ron. Really, was that post a joke? You're the leading Ron Basher.



:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[IM4Truth]

A one carat diamond????????????

Where does his well of money come from???

[n/t]

Wouldn't it work both ways? He wouldn't have to testify against her too IF she is responsible?

Yes but considering he's the one who asked her to marry him, I assumed he could be the one responsible. If he loves his daughter as he claims he does, why would he want to marry the person who could possibly be responsible for her disappearance and possible death?

[bama__angel]

I've been reading the Danielle Van Damme(sp) case. These cases scare me so. I fear for my son to even play on our front stoop with the door open.

I've been wondering if someone could have been playing peeping tom for some days at the mobile home and perhaps saw Haleigh get up to get a drink .. she went into the kitchen, turned on the light, maybe spilled some water on her shirt and took it off to change it and he came in and took her, either bumping the lock or the door was unlocked. I mean what I wonder is if someone had been peeping in the window(s) for more than just that one night and everything just kinda .. came together .. in a bad way... that night.


jmoo


This has always been my thoughts on what possibly happened.....Some one had been watching this little girl for awhile and knew their routine.....This I think was a crime of opportunity.....right place at the right time......IMO

[Motomom]

Yes it is hinky. I never thought he was involved either but how could you think of such a thing when your child is missing? Wow. I do not get it.

imo

Sorry, I'm behind. I still don't think he has done anything to his daughter. I'm wondering how he can be so positive about Misti and not questioning her. Why he would choose to do it now is another issue..so not the time. I'll read on :)

[Themis]

Not only that but where will they live? They have to break up camp and he doesn't want to live in the house where his daughter went missing. I don't understand that. I would want to be right there in that house waiting for her to come home!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6ErLPt4t8

[JMO]

[cat3]

======================

I'm shocked................absolutely shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been here since word of their future wedded bliss,and I am still stunned and shaking my head.It's his life and none of our business,but I still can't imagine not waiting a bit until they find Haleigh one way or the other,and I also can't imagine his blind trust of Misty.

Did anyone notice that Misty in this last interview had none of the stumbling for words,sometimes sullen attitude she has when she speaks of Haleigh and what happened that night?

[VC2]

I think someone posted the actual statute, spousal privilege DOES NOT apply to a crime committed before the marriage and if the crime involves a child victim, it wouldn't apply PERIOD.

IIRC

right.

also..don't see this having anything to do with legal issues at all.

[odyssey]

Many in the comments section of the link said the same thing.

1) Spousal privleges. She won't have to testify against him IF he is responsible.

2) He could avoid possible charges brought against him because she is underage but now has gotten parental consent to marry.

I posted this earlier:

Florida Statute of 2008
'90.504 Husband-wife privilege.
(1) A spouse has a privilege during and after the marital relationship to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, communications which were intended to be made in confidence between the spouses while they were husband and wife.
(2) The privilege may be claimed by either spouse or by the guardian or conservator of a spouse. The authority of a spouse, or guardian or conservator of a spouse, to claim the privilege is presumed in the absence of contrary evidence.
(3) There is no privilege under this section:
(a) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse.
(b) In a criminal proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime committed at any time against the person or property of the other spouse, or the person or property of a child of either.
(c) In a criminal proceeding in which the communication is offered in evidence by a defendant-spouse who is one of the spouses between whom the communication was made.'

Privilege doesn't apply if one spouse is charged w crime against a child of either husband or wife.

courtesy of another poster on another Web Site .. I don't have the link so just putting jmoo

[breeze53]

You are correct but in order to qualify for FMLA you have to have been employed for a year full time. If he has only worked there 5 weeks that would mean he is ineligible.

Thats right he was only there 5 weeks. But people who have been there alot longer can still help out by giving him some of there time or vacation days can't they.

[crymeariver2006]

Well that was my point- you don't like what has transpired today but you still believe he loves his daughter,is in pain and wasn't involved.

There are posters who had an "epiphany" this morning that he was innocent who are now sure he is guilty.

Poor timing, illogical, self destructive & irrational to purpose at this time- but all of those things are classic responses to severe depression and PTSD

Couldn't the severe depression and PTSD also apply to Crystal, or is she somehow immune and worthy of scorn for her decisions (good and bad)?

I hope, if he is indeed suffering from such a malady that someone makes him seek treatment - preferably BEFORE he gets married to the one person who, in all likelihood, holds the answers of what happened to Haleigh.

[emdragon]

I am not kidding that's what the lady said when I called today but she did ask me to not call back. She said I was the 10th person who had called asking that same question. Maybe there just not giveing out the right info because I found it hard to believe he no longer worked there either. I dont think anyone could fire you for takeing a LOA espically when your child is missing. And most places do chip in and help when you have to be out for awhile at least they do where i live.

I was only kidding breeze- I just assumed there were lots of us nosy internet people and it sounds like there is.


We have high standing member of our community who worked for a company for years who got a rare virus last year and needed a heart transplant- The first week in Jan. he got the new heart- by the end of Feb they had let him go (he has a standing job with the company they just don't know when or where it will be). Kept him for months when he could only get into work for an hour or two if that- once he was going to get better- out the door (they did kindly hire his son).

So I guess when it comes to making money that is all that counts.

[n/t]

I've been reading the Danielle Van Damme(sp) case. These cases scare me so. I fear for my son to even play on our front stoop with the door open.

I've been wondering if someone could have been playing peeping tom for some days at the mobile home and perhaps saw Haleigh get up to get a drink .. she went into the kitchen, turned on the light, maybe spilled some water on her shirt and took it off to change it and he came in and took her, either bumping the lock or the door was unlocked. I mean what I wonder is if someone had been peeping in the window(s) for more than just that one night and everything just kinda .. came together .. in a bad way... that night.


jmoo


After seeing the video of the home....the lock doesn't seem as high as it was perceived to be at the beginning. It's about 3 feet....same height as Haleigh. She may have woken and noticed Misty wasn't in her bed and went to look for her. Someone could have taken her. 3AM may not have been when she went missing. It could've been shortly after her bedtime. Sometimes kids don't fall asleep as soon as they're put to bed.

I had another thought....what if Haleigh woke up and heard someone trying to come in through the back door. The person told her to unlock the door and she may have thought it was her daddy??? She was tall enough to reach that lock, imo.

[CC I See]

Misty says its what Haleigh always wanted. For them to get married. Too bad Haleigh isn't here to tell us that herself. :cursing:.... or whether Misty was even there that night to protect her. But then again maybe she was there......

[CC I See]

After seeing the video of the home....the lock doesn't seem as high as it was perceived to be at the beginning. It's about 3 feet....same height as Haleigh. She may have woken and noticed Misty wasn't in her bed and went to look for her. Someone could have taken her. 3AM may not have been when she went missing. It could've been shortly after her bedtime. Sometimes kids don't fall asleep as soon as they're put to bed.

I had another thought....what if Haleigh woke up and heard someone trying to come in through the back door. The person told her to unlock the door and she may have thought it was her daddy??? She was tall enough to reach that lock, imo...... does that surprise you? The more they talk, the more questions we have.

[n/t]

I posted this earlier:

Florida Statute of 2008
'90.504 Husband-wife privilege.
(1) A spouse has a privilege during and after the marital relationship to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, communications which were intended to be made in confidence between the spouses while they were husband and wife.
(2) The privilege may be claimed by either spouse or by the guardian or conservator of a spouse. The authority of a spouse, or guardian or conservator of a spouse, to claim the privilege is presumed in the absence of contrary evidence.
(3) There is no privilege under this section:
(a) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse.
(b) In a criminal proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime committed at any time against the person or property of the other spouse, or the person or property of a child of either.
(c) In a criminal proceeding in which the communication is offered in evidence by a defendant-spouse who is one of the spouses between whom the communication was made.'

Privilege doesn't apply if one spouse is charged w crime against a child of either husband or wife.

courtesy of another poster on another Web Site .. I don't have the link so just putting jmoo


Good to know. Thanks.

[odyssey]

================

Was it reported that he bought a one carat damond?

Someone will have to correct me if i am wrong but i do not think it is a carat diamond and i've not read that .. if it is hopefully someone will direct me to a link.

I have to say, seeing the ring, it looks exactly like the ring my ex gave me for Christmas our first year together .. but his was from WalMart and was not diamonds but cubic zirconia or however that is spelled .. honestly we don't even know if it is a real diamond.

jmoo

[aproudmom]

I've been reading the Danielle Van Damme(sp) case. These cases scare me so. I fear for my son to even play on our front stoop with the door open.

I've been wondering if someone could have been playing peeping tom for some days at the mobile home and perhaps saw Haleigh get up to get a drink .. she went into the kitchen, turned on the light, maybe spilled some water on her shirt and took it off to change it and he came in and took her, either bumping the lock or the door was unlocked. I mean what I wonder is if someone had been peeping in the window(s) for more than just that one night and everything just kinda .. came together .. in a bad way... that night.


jmoo

It is so scary these days I worry about my 18 and 13yr old boys so I can not imagine having younger kids these days I even have a notice sent via email to alert to SO moving around me so I can let my neighbors who have young children.

[odyssey]

After seeing the video of the home....the lock doesn't seem as high as it was perceived to be at the beginning. It's about 3 feet....same height as Haleigh. She may have woken and noticed Misty wasn't in her bed and went to look for her. Someone could have taken her. 3AM may not have been when she went missing. It could've been shortly after her bedtime. Sometimes kids don't fall asleep as soon as they're put to bed.

I had another thought....what if Haleigh woke up and heard someone trying to come in through the back door. The person told her to unlock the door and she may have thought it was her daddy??? She was tall enough to reach that lock, imo.

You know that would also work with my peeping tom scenario .. i mean could a pedo resist if he saw her taking off her shirt and heading for the laundry room while he was looking through the kitchen window?

jmoo

[Themis]

I've been here since word of their future wedded bliss,and I am still stunned and shaking my head.It's his life and none of our business,but I still can't imagine not waiting a bit until they find Haleigh one way or the other,and I also can't imagine his blind trust of Misty.

Did anyone notice that Misty in this last interview had none of the stumbling for words,sometimes sullen attitude she has when she speaks of Haleigh and what happened that night?
Reference Cat3's post 572 - my bolding

You noticed that, too, huh? At 1 minute into the video version I just watched she exhibits a cocky attitude while making that one statement.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Info: Misty stated she and Ron had been dated for 7 months.
It was Misty's Mother who said RC & MC had asked Mom 5 months ago to sign parent approval papers. [JMO]

[aproudmom]

Someone will have to correct me if i am wrong but i do not think it is a carat diamond and i've not read that .. if it is hopefully someone will direct me to a link.

I have to say, seeing the ring, it looks exactly like the ring my ex gave me for Christmas our first year together .. but his was from WalMart and was not diamonds but cubic zirconia or however that is spelled .. honestly we don't even know if it is a real diamond.

jmoo

ITA and I have not seen a link to me I just think it is the wrong time to do it and maybe RC was more mad that misti was talking about it to the media after watching the video again he seemed mad at her but JMO

[emdragon]

Thats right he was only there 5 weeks. But people who have been there alot longer can still help out by giving him some of there time or vacation days can't they.

He worked there longer than 5 weeks. His mother said he had only been on that SHIFT 5 weeks.

[odyssey]

Can anyone guesstimate how tall a person would have to be to look through the peep hole on the back door from outside the house please?

[VC2]

Where does his well of money come from???

same place yours does probably. He works hard and has savings.

IMO

[cat3]

Reference Cat3's post 572 - my bolding

You noticed that, too, huh? At 1 minute into the video version I just watched she exhibits a cocky attitude while making that one statement.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Info: Misty stated she and Ron had been dated for 7 months.
It was Misty's Mother who said RC & MC had asked Mom 5 months ago to sign parent approval papers. [JMO]

Yes.At times she seems a bit beligerent in my opinion.Could be due to her age though.

[odyssey]

Also .. has anyone read reports of LE checking for finger prints OUTSIDE on and around the windows? I cannot remember seeing any fingerprint powder in the pics but that doesn't mean they did not.

[n/t]

Reference Cat3's post 572 - my bolding

You noticed that, too, huh? At 1 minute into the video version I just watched she exhibits a cocky attitude while making that one statement.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

Info: Misty stated she and Ron had been dated for 7 months.
It was Misty's Mother who said RC & MC had asked Mom 5 months ago to sign parent approval papers. [JMO]


I noticed that too. Why did Ron look so pissed? :huh:

[StickyBeak]

My heart went out to GrandMom, TN on NG video. She thanked NG for keeping Haleigh in the news. Well this info will certainly bring some attention, all bad according to Misti comments after the engagement. Do they feel they have nothing to lose, they feel they have been trashed, so give em what we got, keep the media frenzied. JMO
I totally disagree with this announcenment at this time, it's my right to my opinion. I just wonder how suddenly all the donations will disappear,
new wife, new house, new baby. Maybe a new cowboy cadillac is next.
Not nice press, IMO

[Rushbo]

Where is Jerry Springer when we need him???:rolleyes:

[catdoc]

Provide the link to prove that or stop posting unsubstantiated rumors.

Please post a link to support that he has only worked there for 5 weeks. You repeatedly post that info, is it unsubstantiated? The GM said he had been on the night shift 5 weeks and I've missed the report on what you're claiming.

[KKKKKKatie]

I noticed that too. Why did Ron look so pissed? :huh:

After thinking about it for awhile IMO it was because the media was there

[koawally]

same place yours does probably. He works hard and has savings.

IMO

Yeah right...savings...if he had any savings his daughter would not have been sleeping on a mattress on the floor in the very same room as her father, her fathers 17 year old lover and her lil brother.

IMO this marriage proposal is a sham...AND A SHAME!!!

[texski]

i think the marriage is a great thing for this family. they have been so trashed here and on tv that to have him show that they love each other , have planned to marry as soon as she was 18, and are doing it now to show the world they are together , even if it has to be against the world. wish i could send a wedding present, is there a address?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Misty and her ring (http://i39.tinypic.com/fjlx1z.gif) :rolleyes:

Ok .. what did I miss today?

When did the ring happen?

[Peaches]

My heart went out to GrandMom, TN on NG video. She thanked NG for keeping Haleigh in the news. Well this info will certainly bring some attention, all bad according to Misti comments after the engagement. Do they feel they have nothing to lose, they feel they have been trashed, so give em what we got, keep the media frenzied. JMO
I totally disagree with this announcenment at this time, it's my right to my opinion. I just wonder how suddenly all the donations will disappear,
new wife, new house, new baby. Maybe a new cowboy cadillac is next.
Not nice press, IMO



New baby???????????????????????

Where did you hear this? TIA

[ICE]

I'm just blown away that thinking of marriage at this time is even a thought to either of them. I thought getting a tattoo seemed odd at this point, but wow.......

What do they know that we don't?

[texski]

add to above message. this was written by someone who married at 17 to a man age 19, because he was being sent to korea and neither of us knew if he would return. in moments of despair, that is when you can show your commitment.

[Peaches]

i think the marriage is a great thing for this family. they have been so trashed here and on tv that to have him show that they love each other , have planned to marry as soon as she was 18, and are doing it now to show the world they are together , even if it has to be against the world. wish i could send a wedding present, is there a address?


Yes..................I am sure you can find his mother's address since they will not be living in the MH ..............

I love your post!

[KKKKKKatie]

add to above message. this was written by someone who married at 17 to a man age 19, because he was being sent to korea and neither of us knew if he would return. in moments of despair, that is when you can show your commitment.


That is very sweet texski...but IMO this doesn't compare with being sent off to war.

[ICE]

A Chili's restaurant..........

[TaraCrazyHair]

Ron proposed at a Chilis restaurant with family and friends present :rolleyes:

How very odd is that ...

Double hmmmm

[StickyBeak]

add to above message. this was written by someone who married at 17 to a man age 19, because he was being sent to korea and neither of us knew if he would return. in moments of despair, that is when you can show your commitment.


May well be Texski, but at this point, Ron has no home and neither does his little boy. Just too premature IMO. Maybe 6 months ago they were going to disneyland too, maybe that was Halighs dream as well.

[n/t]

After thinking about it for awhile IMO it was because the media was there

Did he think this wasn't going to be leaked out to the media? According to the link, he announced it in a restaurant in front of everyone.

Ron will have to learn the hard way, I guess. It's the nature of the beast. Media will report the good and the bad.

[Themis]

I noticed that too. Why did Ron look so pissed? :huh:
Reference n/t's post 599

1. Because he was as unsuccessful at avoiding reporters/cameras this afternoon -- as he was when he drove 2 hours away to get his new tats?
2. Because he had told Misty and her Mother to avoid speaking on camera and they wanted and got their face time?
3. Because he was too tired from crying on camera this morning for the Today show?

Who knows? [JMO]

[DenVIP]

i think the marriage is a great thing for this family. they have been so trashed here and on tv that to have him show that they love each other , have planned to marry as soon as she was 18, and are doing it now to show the world they are together , even if it has to be against the world. wish i could send a wedding present, is there a address?

actually we agree a wedding would be a step up in class for this family.....ron good for you to be legit......for a change

[AmndaRcknwth]

But he just prefers to have his bed on the floor without a box spring right? And pillows without even pillow cases? and live with his mom prior to this house? And sleep in a tent too? OK!!!! :lol:

I also want to add... Where did the money come from for that new custom paint job on his truck windshield about Haleigh?

Dingdingding we have a winner.

Question, where can I find a pic of that truck?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Yup and Misty says she has a camera full of pics of the occassion.

moo


When did she speak of this?

I miss everything :(

[Leather&Lace]

Is there something about not having to testify against your spouse?

Yes, something about not having to testify against a spouse.
Anyway, if this case ever comes to trial, I hope that law will not apply to Ron and Misty.
ummm, I doubt the law would make an exception. Maybe someone else knows.
Curious at any rate.

[aproudmom]

After thinking about it for awhile IMO it was because the media was there

ITA thought the same thing he was already ambushed by GR and the informant thing which I think was so uncalled for but that is JMO

[DenVIP]

ok my last post was sarcastic...oh well

[catdoc]

That is right what you said, all we know is the 5 weeks. We do not know if it was longer. Why do I need to provide a link for it when you just backed it up btw? Thanks!

But you repeatedly post he has only WORKED for 5 weeks. Deliberately misleading perhaps???After all when EMdragon tried to correct you, you accused her of posting UNSUBSTANTIATED info.

[TaraCrazyHair]

yup pretty weird....

JVM reported that Ron got down on one knee in front of family and friends...

Misty is on cloud 9... barf

Interesting that yesterday we discussed pics of Ron with what appeared to be a wedding band and today they are engaged

Solidarity for the future?

[KKKKKKatie]

Yes, something about not having to testify against a spouse.
Anyway, if this case ever comes to trial, I hope that law will not apply to Ron and Misty.
ummm, I doubt the law would make an exception. Maybe someone else knows.
Curious at any rate.


would not apply for a crime committed before the marriage

[AmndaRcknwth]

Misty and her ring (http://i39.tinypic.com/fjlx1z.gif) :rolleyes:

Right-side up and enlarged.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24wzthi.jpg

[aproudmom]

I also thought it was very sad crystal put Jr on GR not a good thing on her part IMO

[ICE]

yup pretty weird....

JVM reported that Ron got down on one knee in front of family and friends...

Misty is on cloud 9... barf

I wonder if all the Chili's employees came out and sang to them.:rolleyes:

[Leather&Lace]

You know what really bothers me? Aside from the timing of this marriage thing right now and his apparent disregard for his little girl being possibly dead.... he was not man enough to marry the mother of his two children, but is eager to marry the girl who was supposed to be taking care of them. Crystal should be feeling very insulted about now. He got her pregnant, twice, but did not respect her enough to marry her, and now he is marrying Misty. Does he have no shame.
This is disgusting to me, I am floored!!
Haleigh, God Bless You, Sweetheart!! We love you and pray for you every day!

I feel the same way TxLady2, disgusted with this whole engagement announcement. Maybe part of the engagement is a retaliation for all the mud slinging by Crystal and her mom.

:shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

You never know Katie!
Depends on what kind of marriage its going to be!! lol


LOL you fruit cake :laugh:

[aproudmom]

Right-side up and enlarged.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24wzthi.jpg

IMO that does not tell me it is real diamonds could be a 50 dollar wal-mart ring

[Leather&Lace]

Maybe that is a term of endearment in the south...

JMO

It is not a term of endearment so please do not insult those of us who grew up or have lived in the south. That was not a nice thing to say at all.
Shame on you!

[ICE]

maybe by getting married, Ron does away with possible charges of statutory later.

[Themis]

Ron proposed at a Chilis restaurant with family and friends present :rolleyes:
In the video version I saw someone stated RC proposed with family and friends and in front of all the patrons. Must have been a grand occasion. Wonder if he got down on one knee, too? Ya know, in keeping with old fashioned traditions. [JMO]

[Leather&Lace]

Wouldn't it work both ways? He wouldn't have to testify against her too IF she is responsible?


My thoughts exactly!

[aproudmom]

I am behind - but, I seen this post and I can't find the picture of Misty. Am I just over looking it?

I will say....I am done..done...between the money for the Tattoo and the size of that ring...I am going to be perfectly HONEST HERE.....I was getting ready to donate money ( and I am not a rich person)....but, NO MORE...I will NOT be donating money.

Now if I feel that way - how many other people feel that way, but aren't on message boards.

I might get slammed for saying that, but it is the truth and it is my hard earned money.

To be perfectly honest...I do not know which I am more upset about...the engagement or the way .....Ron treated the person with the camera...did everyone watch that video?

Do you know how many missing children and adults would BEG for that kind of news coverage?...Did you see how RUDE he was and would not say anything to the camera?....I am in ' SHOCK".

Does the man carry a bottle of visine in his pocket?...I don't even know if those are real tears.

Ok...I need to be still not and just read. I am really to upset to be typing, because I am letting my true feelings show.

I will say this...I have supported Ron from day ONE...Unless a drastic change happens he just lost ALL of my support.

Oh, and I think TN seen this coming, that is why she is supporting Misty...and that has to be very hard on her to try and do for her son.

The above is MY OPINION ONLY

No bashing from me we all have our opinions and I respect everyones I do want to say it was sweet that you wanted to help by donating I will say I have donated to TEXAS EQS they help alot of families.

[Leather&Lace]

I think someone posted the actual statute, spousal privilege DOES NOT apply to a crime committed before the marriage and if the crime involves a child victim, it wouldn't apply PERIOD.

IIRC


TY for this information.

[TaraCrazyHair]

would not apply for a crime committed before the marriage


Not sure about Florida law but a husband/wife cannot be forced to testify against each other

Regardless

[IlliniFan]

IIRC Theresa Nevis said that Ron had worked the night shift for only 5 weeks or so, before that he worked the day shift. Now, I have no idea how long he worked the day shift. But, he clearly was employed by the company > 5 weeks, per Theresa.

[Themis]

ok my last post was sarcastic...oh well
I got it:wink::thumbsup:
Unfortunately subtle sarcasm is often lost in print. Post 629. [JMO]

[Leather&Lace]

Where does his well of money come from???


Sympathetic donations from people all over through the U.S. Mail.
I would sure hate to think money I sent to help them survive under the circumstances would go toward an engagement ring.
I'd be furious!
:cursing:

[IlliniFan]

I posted this earlier:

Florida Statute of 2008
'90.504 Husband-wife privilege.
(1) A spouse has a privilege during and after the marital relationship to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, communications which were intended to be made in confidence between the spouses while they were husband and wife.
(2) The privilege may be claimed by either spouse or by the guardian or conservator of a spouse. The authority of a spouse, or guardian or conservator of a spouse, to claim the privilege is presumed in the absence of contrary evidence.
(3) There is no privilege under this section:
(a) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse.
(b) In a criminal proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime committed at any time against the person or property of the other spouse, or the person or property of a child of either.
(c) In a criminal proceeding in which the communication is offered in evidence by a defendant-spouse who is one of the spouses between whom the communication was made.'

Privilege doesn't apply if one spouse is charged w crime against a child of either husband or wife.

courtesy of another poster on another Web Site .. I don't have the link so just putting jmoo


reposting: originally posted by oddesey....

[annalyzer]

So where is the link that he bought it from donation money as you claimed?

oh give it up. she didn't state it as a fact.

[KKKKKKatie]

reposting: originally posted by oddesey....


Thank you Illin...I was just looking for that :wub:

[aproudmom]

IIRC Theresa Nevis said that Ron had worked the night shift for only 5 weeks or so, before that he worked the day shift. Now, I have no idea how long he worked the day shift. But, he clearly was employed by the company > 5 weeks, per Theresa.

I was going to post that but had no link and did not want to be ask not to say things without it and Breeze was ask for the link also but I also remember her saying he had not worked night shift that long I thought it was 3 weeks but it could have been 5 weeks and I dont really want to have to search utube over how long he was working there but I also heard his mother say that. I also heard from a video that co-workers were helping but once again no link so just going to add JMO

[IlliniFan]

I sure cannot tell by looking at my tv if that ring is a diamond, or a cz, or the size for that matter????

[Rushbo]

In my personal opinion, it is time for both TN and MC to realize they are NOT Haleigh's mother and never will be.

[Kelly3820]

I had heard awhile ago that when Ron decided he wasn't going back to live in the trailer it was said that he had some money saved up and was going to may buy another place to live. Just maybe he used some of that savings for a ring.

[annalyzer]

Yes she did. As per the TOS she needs to provide a link to back up what she claimed.



Bratlings
Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,929

Quote:
Originally Posted by TREE TREE
EXCELLENT POINT!!

Hey if he is done looking for Haleigh, wonder when he is going back to work?

Work? Why would he need to do that when he can afford a 1 carat ring from donations?!
__________________
For where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them << Matthew 18:20 >>


She only stated that he could afford a one carat ring from the donations, not that he paid for the ring with donations.

oh and btw, that is how he paid for his tattoo.

[Leather&Lace]

I noticed that too. Why did Ron look so pissed? :huh:

IIRC, Ron said outside the Tat parlor in Tampa that he could not go anywhere without a camera in his face! :w00t:
Maybe he does not want a camera in his face. Just for the record, he looked a bit pizzed to me as well.

JMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

In my personal opinion, it is time for both TN and MC to realize they are NOT Haleigh's mother and never will be.


who are TN and MC?

[AmndaRcknwth]

Here is the video which shows his truck... At 2:20 seconds

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29593696#29593696


Thanks. Hmmm that is strange.

[KKKKKKatie]

who are TN and MC?

Ron's mother and Misty

[Former Juror]

Okay, I am just coming to the board for the first time in several days. Who bought a diamond ring and why?

[Rushbo]

In reference to the previous posting about the neighbor hearing yelling and screaming from Ron's house around 2:30 a.m., this also reminds me of TN telling NG that she arrived at Ron's home at 3:30 a.m.

IMO, I have always thought RC's and MC's version of the timeline was off.

[Rushbo]

Does anyone know if NG plans any Haleigh coverage tonight?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Ron's mother and Misty

K thanks

I am so confused right now over all this

Highly inappropriate in my opinion

[aproudmom]

I sure cannot tell by looking at my tv if that ring is a diamond, or a cz, or the size for that matter????

I agree I am a women and can't tell if it is but to me I really do not care it has nothing to do with this child.

[Themis]

who are TN and MC?
TN is Teresa Neves, Ron Cummings' mother

MC is Misty Croslin, Ron's betrothed

Good News Here! Misty doesn't have to discard all her monogrammed linens after marriage. [JMO]

[odyssey]

I sure cannot tell by looking at my tv if that ring is a diamond, or a cz, or the size for that matter????


I agree .. as I said earlier it looks exactly like the CZ ring my ex gave me.

[n/t]

Okay, I am just coming to the board for the first time in several days. Who bought a diamond ring and why?

Ron and Misty got engaged. Ron bought misty a ring. No wedding date yet.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I agree I am a women and can't tell if it is but to me I really do not care it has nothing to do with this child.

All it shows to me is he is more concerned about himself and Misty than his missing little girl who could be holed up somewhere being sexually molested, abused, starving and scared

(shaking my head)

[Rushbo]

Ron and Misty got engaged. Ron bought misty a ring. No wedding date yet.

I bet that wedding will be held as soon as MC's mom can get those papers filled out. Maybe tomorrow.

[Leather&Lace]

Reference n/t's post 599

1. Because he was as unsuccessful at avoiding reporters/cameras this afternoon -- as he was when he drove 2 hours away to get his new tats?
2. Because he had told Misty and her Mother to avoid speaking on camera and they wanted and got their face time?
3. Because he was too tired from crying on camera this morning for the Today show?

Who knows? [JMO]

4. Because RC is going to refuse all non-paid interviews and wait for the invites that will pay him $$.

Who knows?

If I had a child missing I would lunge at every camera I saw and beg for my child back.

JMO

[Former Juror]

Ron and Misty got engaged. Ron bought misty a ring. No wedding date yet.

Oh my. I didn't expect that.

[aproudmom]

Does anyone know if NG plans any Haleigh coverage tonight?

not yet I am watching her right now

[IlliniFan]

I believe Bank of America is where the donation funds are located. I suspect there is someone that administers those funds in a fair and reasonable fashion...

[odyssey]

MrLucky thank you for answering! The quote function is not working for me for this post for some reason.

I think maybe I was not clear .. i meant from the top or near the top of the ramp .. would a person need to stand on something to peer into the peephole please?

[MrLucky917B]

It is not a term of endearment so please do not insult those of us who grew up or have lived in the south. That was not a nice thing to say at all.
Shame on you!

It wasn't ment as an insult, remember we "cut" on the lights here...

[Rushbo]

not yet I am watching her right now

I may be the only one who is completely sick of NG's continual replaying of the Casey Anthony items. She needs to get off her butt and do some real reporting if CNN is going to continue her show.

[DenVIP]

you mean if you say he paid for the ring with donations?

he paid for the ring with savings?
he paid for the ring with drug money?

you cant ask a question you need to post a link to hypotheticals ?

[CC I See]

All it shows to me is he is more concerned about himself and Misty than his missing little girl who could be holed up somewhere being sexually molested, abused, starving and scared (shaking my head)
I agree very much with this statement, if my daughter was missing I would be heartbroken to the point that I would have to be hospitalized and sedated. I do realize that people grieved differently but this response is bizarre. Getting engaged is a festive activity for most people, not something you do in a crises when your child is missing. :angry:

[IlliniFan]

Tha t depends on how the account is set up. It could be his personal account and then there would be no rules of disbursement or it could be a trust which there would be rules. I believe that the rules only exist for tax reasons though and not to actually prevent mismanagement.


The donations were set up by the local funeral home, through BOA, I honestly do not think either family has carte blanche over those donations...imo

[aproudmom]

All it shows to me is he is more concerned about himself and Misty than his missing little girl who could be holed up somewhere being sexually molested, abused, starving and scared

(shaking my head)

oh man that was hard to hear but I do respect your opinion it is hard to think about that but could be true. I just dont know how people can even eat I just can not imagine this being my child. JMO

[Leather&Lace]

Oh please, if Ron is using that for an excuse to get engaged and marrying Misty he has serious issues. He doesn't need marriage, he needs therapy.

moo

Grasping in the dark because I cannot think of any logical reason why on earth a person would get engaged while their precious child missing!

JMO

[Rushbo]

IIRC, Ron said outside the Tat parlor in Tampa that he could not go anywhere without a camera in his face! :w00t:
Maybe he does not want a camera in his face. Just for the record, he looked a bit pizzed to me as well.

JMO

He has always looked a bit pizzed to me.

Also thought his eyes looked dialated on the morning show.

Noticed Misty sniffling at her "engagement" announcement interview.

[Themis]

Oh my. I didn't expect that.
Reference Former Juror's post 706

I think today's coverage of their engagement announcement has shocked everyone.

Even the reporter(s) in this linked video had a stunned look.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

[JMO]

[RoxyWest]

Is it possible that Ron and Misty don't realize that spousal privilege doesn't attach to events prior to marriage?

Just a thought. Not saying that I think Ron is involved and if Misty is, don't know why Ron would want to protect her. Just thinking out loud--on a message board.

[n/t]

Oh my. I didn't expect that.

He proposed to her at a Chilli Restaurant in front of friends and family yesterday. There's a link here somewhere. There's a video of Misty showing off her engagement ring. She said this is something Haleigh wanted.

[cloe23]

maybe by getting married, Ron does away with possible charges of statutory later.

This is what I am thinking. If this is the only thing that they fear LE might charge them with, then this supports their innocents of any other wrong doing even more in my book.
What their problem is... is not having a business degree from Harvard on what is the responsible thing to do with money. They may also be guilty of not owning the rule book on how to grieve. They are clueless about what is SOCIALLY acceptable, or just don't give a chit, this is not criminal. As long as they are on the up and up with LE then this is what matters in finding Haleigh.
I am rather pleased that Ron is not internalizing his emotions, his tattoo shows me that he is externalizing his emotions.
Just my opinion of course.

[Rushbo]

The donations were set up by the local funeral home, through BOA, I honestly do not think either family has carte blanche over those donations...imo

There is only one reason a funeral home would set up the account.

And it is not for Ron to use to buy tattoos or engagement rings.

[CC I See]

He has always looked a bit pizzed to me.

Also thought his eyes looked dialated on the morning show.

Noticed Misty sniffling at her "engagement" announcement interview......yes, I am so glad these two have found each other, they deserve to be together.

[Leather&Lace]

I had heard awhile ago that when Ron decided he wasn't going back to live in the trailer it was said that he had some money saved up and was going to may buy another place to live. Just maybe he used some of that savings for a ring.

It really does not matter to me what he used to buy the ring. I would still NEVER consider using any money $$ from any account/source that may be needed to find my child!
In poor taste as far as I am concerned. Just plain poor taste!

JMO

[Rushbo]

This is what I am thinking. If this is the only thing that they fear LE might charge them with, then this supports their innocents of any other wrong doing.
What their problem is... is not having a business degree from Harvard on what is the responsible thing to do with money. They may also be guilty of not owning the rule book on how to grieve. They are clueless about what is SOCIALLY acceptable, or just don't give a chit, this is not criminal. As long as they are on the up and up with LE the this is that matters.
I am rather pleased that Ron is not internalizing his emotions, his tattoo shows me that he is externalizing his emotions.
Just my opinion of course.

We normally expect people to show some decency.

[MrLucky917B]

MrLucky thank you for answering! The quote function is not working for me for this post for some reason.

I think maybe I was not clear .. i meant from the top or near the top of the ramp .. would a person need to stand on something to peer into the peephole please?

I deleted my post, I thought the question was how tall you would have to be to look through the kitchen window. Don't think you would have to stand on anything to look through the peephole on the sisde door.

JMO

[Themis]

I believe Bank of America is where the donation funds are located. I suspect there is someone that administers those funds in a fair and reasonable fashion...
Reference IliniFan's post 708

You pointed out the Bank of Amerida donation fund.
I would also add that I have read several articles and watched videos mentioning cash donations have been given directly to the respective camp sites. [JMO]

[Rushbo]

.....yes, I am so glad these two have found each other, they deserve to be together.

Poor little Junior.

[aproudmom]

Of course I can not tell if it is CZ or real either but I recognize the size.

I was just saying I can not tell what it is I have had CZ that look pretty real though not saying your opinion is wrong I just can not tell so until they say it is we just don't know I guess but like I posted I really dont care what it is. jmo

[Motomom]

Thanks. Hmmm that is strange.

It's graphics. Not a paint job. Probably cost less than a hundred bucks IMO.

[n/t]

Yeah but you and most posters here are normal. :shrug:

The sad thing is that today I was thinking about how some little girl who was scared of the dark was harmed and living her nightmare. Most kids have irrational fears but this child's fears came true and that makes it especially sad.

Now Ron & Misty are planning a wedding? What is wrong with these people?


I don't get it either. I think they'd have to put me in a psych ward. The pain would be unbearable.:sad:

[odyssey]

I deleted my post, I thought the question was how tall you would have to be to look through the kitchen window. Don't think you would have to stand on anything to look through the peephole on the sisde door.

JMO

But you would to look through the kitchen one you think?

[CC I See]

Yeah but you and most posters here are normal. :shrug:

The sad thing is that today I was thinking about how some little girl who was scared of the dark was harmed and living her nightmare. Most kids have irrational fears but this child's fears came true and that makes it especially sad.
Now Ron & Misty are planning a wedding? What is wrong with these people?

Thank you for saying this, I have lived the nightmare myself and know something about fear of the dark. What you said is very true and taking the focus off the search for answers may very well be the intent of this family after all.

[Motomom]

Twist all you want. She claimed he bought the ring with donation money and has nothing to back it up with. Funny she is demanding links from others and threatening to report them but when she is asked for a link to back up a rumor she is starting she can't manage to dig one up.

Bookie, it's always the same over and over.

I don't know how big the ring is. It may or may not be a carot. It may or may not be a real diamond either. It may have cost 150 bucks for all we know or he may have had it before Haleigh went missing. IF they had discussed it.. It's possible he had bought it for her earlier.

If I were him I would be questioning her up and down, not proposing to her.

[IlliniFan]

Reference IliniFan's post 708

You pointed out the Bank of Amerida donation fund.
I would also add that I have read several articles and watched videos mentioning cash donations have been given directly to the respective camp sites. [JMO]


I have seen a report of the families, both sides, selling buttons and such, to go to the reward fund.

[Leather&Lace]

It wasn't ment as an insult, remember we "cut" on the lights here...


Since you "cut on" your lights then you are forgiven.
:laugh:

lol, I haven't heard that in a long time ~

[DenVIP]

OMG! you're kidding me????

Ron paid for that horrible tattoo with DONATION money????

I didn't know that.... if that's the case I'm sickened!

barf barf barf

joan before you jump into the fire.....ron said the tattoo was donated....not paid for with donations

[aproudmom]

I guess Nancy Grace will not have anything on tonight about Haleigh:sad:

[n/t]

Poor little Junior.


I think of him all the time and wonder how this has effected him. I hope he's getting help. I'm sorry but the money being spent on a tattoo and engagement ring would be better spent helping this poor child get through the trauma of losing his sister.

I asked earlier who had him? Is he still with Crystal? What will happen to this poor child?

[cloe23]

We normally expect people to show some decency.

They clearly don't know how. Left to their own devices is only asking for ill behaviours. What they all need is someone who can help them with these behaviors and possibly stop them.

[odyssey]

OMG! you're kidding me????

Ron paid for that horrible tattoo with DONATION money????

I didn't know that.... if that's the case I'm sickened!

barf barf barf

no need to be sick .. he did not pay for his tattoo with donation money ... the tattoo was paid for by someone to the tattoo shop. He did not take any of the donation money and buy it.

jmoo since i am not going to go dig up a link

[MrLucky917B]

But you would to look through the kitchen one you think?

Yep, the home is at least 3 foot off the ground, you would need something to stand on.

JMO

[IlliniFan]

I guess Nancy Grace will not have anything on tonight about Haleigh:sad:

She has a few minutes left...but she sure covers the CA a lot...Not to diminish the sadness with respect to that case, though....

[Deb7]

maybe by getting married, Ron does away with possible charges of statutory later.


That is exactly what I was thinking... Good thing there is that other girl (the 17 y/o) Amber (I think it is) that he got pregnant, that they can still stick some charges to him with.
JMO

[aproudmom]

Sorry O/T another missing child mom was found dead:crying:this is so sad all these kids going missing. no link watching Nancy Grace

[Leather&Lace]

He has always looked a bit pizzed to me.

Also thought his eyes looked dialated on the morning show.

Noticed Misty sniffling at her "engagement" announcement interview.

It would not be unreasonable to me for RC to be on some type of medication. I'd need heavy amounts of medication if it were me so I cannot speculate on dilated eyes. Just being honest here.

As far as Misty goes, too bad she was not as articulate describing the circumstances the night Haleigh went missing. Misty looked to be on cloud 9 to me. Pathetic.

JMO

[Motomom]

Yep, the home is at least 3 foot off the ground, you would need something to stand on.

JMO

Like a cinderblock maybe?

[n/t]

We don't know that he even bought the ring recently. It could have been a family member's ring or one he had bought prior to Haleigh's disappearance. Misty's mom said they'd been trying to get her to sign for the marriage for awhile so he could have had the ring for months.

Still an inappropriate thing to do at this time. Haleigh is missing and she could be suffering incredible abuse in the hands of a monster while dad and girlfriend are celebrating an engagement at a chili restaurant and planning a wedding.

It's sickening.

[IlliniFan]

Hi Illini.....It certainly appears so.

Hey has that reward money gone up any?


The Spurs Saloon is collecting donations to be given to either LE or Crimestoppers that benefit the reward fund...that's about all I know..

Plus the families are selling buttons and such to the reward fund per Marie..

[MrLucky917B]

I guess Nancy Grace will not have anything on tonight about Haleigh:sad:

I think she doesn't want to get involved in today's news...

JMO

[Motomom]

Just curious, but how would you prove they had sex before??

LOL doneit.. I've been wondering that for a long time. How exactly does one prove such a thing?

[aproudmom]

She has a few minutes left...but she sure covers the CA a lot...Not to diminish the sadness with respect to that case, though....

I don't think she will tonight and I am glad she has caylee on there nightly but that video I saw months ago so it is not news to me and I am a Nancy Grace fan just wish Haleigh had got a few minutes on her show. I am so afraid she will be forgotten by the media I really dont care that Casey Anthony is buying lipstick in jail. I want this missing childs face on there JMO

Lou Dobbs suppose to have something on Haleigh sure it wont be much

[CC I See]

LOL doneit.. I've been wondering that for a long time. How exactly does one prove such a thing?.... I guess the only way would be to ask each one of them if they did.

[Rushbo]

It would not be unreasonable to me for RC to be on some type of medication. I'd need heavy amounts of medication if it were me so I cannot speculate on dilated eyes. Just being honest here.

As far as Misty goes, too bad she was not as articulate describing the circumstances the night Haleigh went missing. Misty looked to be on cloud 9 to me. Pathetic.

JMO

IMO, Ron and Misty are absolutely loving the media coverage. Also, IMO, they are just waiting for the big-bucks interviews, and I hope they never come for them.

[MrLucky917B]

Like a cinderblock maybe?

You would need at least 3 or 4 on top of each other, I pretty sure LE looked around for any evidence of that and didn't find any. (or they are not saying)

JMO

[n/t]

I think she doesn't want to get involved in today's news...

JMO

I don't blame her.

[emdragon]

There is only one reason a funeral home would set up the account.

And it is not for Ron to use to buy tattoos or engagement rings.

Actually the funeral home was involved from day one- donating the tent for the first vigil- and doing the buttons and handing them out (Before they started asking for donations for them)

[FrankieBones1]

I guess Nancy Grace will not have anything on tonight about Haleigh:sad:

I see that Lou Dobbs will be discussing the case tonight. It starts in a few minutes.

[IlliniFan]

I don't think she will tonight and I am glad she has caylee on there nightly but that video I saw months ago so it is not news to me and I am a Nancy Grace fan just wish Haleigh had got a few minutes on her show. I am so afraid she will be forgotten by the media I really dont care that Casey Anthony is buying lipstick in jail. I want this missing childs face on there JMO

Lou Dobbs suppose to have something on Haleigh sure it wont be much


I haven't really followed the CA case, but the little girl is so cute, like Haleigh....I just wish they would find her. If she is no longer with us, she needs to be brought home. Plus, finding her body (hard to type) might in some way direct the investigation?? I just don't know...

[TaraCrazyHair]

I may be the only one who is completely sick of NG's continual replaying of the Casey Anthony items. She needs to get off her butt and do some real reporting if CNN is going to continue her show.

AMEN!!!

Tired of her beating that dead horse

[koawally]

maybe by getting married, Ron does away with possible charges of statutory later.

B I N G O
:ohmy:

[Rushbo]

I don't think she will tonight and I am glad she has caylee on there nightly but that video I saw months ago so it is not news to me and I am a Nancy Grace fan just wish Haleigh had got a few minutes on her show. I am so afraid she will be forgotten by the media I really dont care that Casey Anthony is buying lipstick in jail. I want this missing childs face on there JMO

Lou Dobbs suppose to have something on Haleigh sure it wont be much

I personally think NG's show has lost its' effectiveness because she is basically covering Casey Anthony the majority of the time. LE has her incarcerated; NG needs to get back to work with all these other cases.

Greta made the same mistake with the Holloway case, while not providing any coverage for other items that were ongoing at the time.

[odyssey]

You would need at least 3 or 4 on top of each other, I pretty sure LE looked around for any evidence of that and didn't find any. (or they are not saying)

JMO


Do you think it possible they fingerprinted the exterior portions of the windows and around them?

[DenVIP]

this is amazing too that Misty just happened to have a camera to take a camera full of pictures of the surprise engagement......but she doesn't have one useful clue for the surprise abuction of the child she referred to in the police report as our daughter.....hmmm selection intuitive skill I guess

[KKKKKKatie]

presumed with co-habitation.


and the fact that she has announced on national TV that Jr. was asleep in their bed

[koawally]

wait a minute...I missed that one.

He has a third child?


Yes, he has another baby boy besides Jr. with another very young girl :thumbdown:

[IlliniFan]

supposedly he has a child with a girl named Amber? I thought she is now married....but,,so much misinformation out there, who knows..

[AmndaRcknwth]

Yes, he has another baby boy besides Jr. with another very young girl :thumbdown:

Jordan, approximately one year old, Mom Amber.
I don't know the last name.

[CC I See]

Yes, he has another baby boy besides Jr. with another very young girl :thumbdown:....she's seventeen as well if I remember correctly but then he hasn't said for sure that this child is his. No link for this but it was in Misty's interview when she said that she met Ron while babysitting for his child that this girl had with him. My question is if this girl is 17 and has a baby, how old was she when they "dated"

[Themis]

I think she doesn't want to get involved in today's news...

JMO
Reference MrLucky's post 766

I think you are quite right.
Nancy Grace has referred to 2 different women as her producers being in Satsuma for her show, Natisha Lance and Marlaina Schiavo. IMO, they both have spent enough time in the community to get a 'feel' for this case which may be the basis for NG's lack of coverage. [JMO]

[emdragon]

I may be the only one who is completely sick of NG's continual replaying of the Casey Anthony items. She needs to get off her butt and do some real reporting if CNN is going to continue her show.

No your not the only one. I think she might as well rename the show the Anthony Hour.

How many missing kids or women are going unnoticed because she has chosen to focus only on Caylee/Casey.

Sad to say but Nancy can't help Caylee anymore but she might be able to help Haleigh or some other poor child.

[CC I See]

Reference MrLucky's post 766

I think you are quite.
Nancy Grace has referred to 2 different women as her producers being in Satsuma for her show, Natisha Lance and Marlaina Schiavo. IMO, they both have spent enough time in the community to get a 'feel' for this case which may be the basis for NG's lack of coverage. [JMO]...... do you mean because it turns her stomach and she can't stand the family? Surely she is tougher than that......

[CC I See]

So that would make her what 16 years old when she got pregnant??.... maybe younger because the child is not a small baby, I think.

[aproudmom]

I was posting the same thing at the same time.

They are living this nightmare. He may know more than we do. He may know the results of her poly and/or the police may have told him they don't suspect Misty. We don't know because we are sitting on the sidelines.

I was wondering the same thing my only thing is why would LE not come out that they passed? or clear them to at least get the rumors/ media off of them I just dont know I am stuck on this one I dont see it being the right time to tell the media and IMO RC was not happy she was talking they need a PR person I guess. A ring and tat does not mean he is Guilty just poor judgement an timing

[CC I See]

Until MC and RC have been officially eliminated as suspects by LE or FLED or FBI, I think a dark cloud will hang over them and my feelings are also guarded about both of them. Misty will always be the person "who did not wake up" and divert an abduction of a child she was responsible for. I do not know about any lingering feelings about RC whatever the outcome of this situatiion. Will he be the "Dad who left his children" without proper supervision or with an irresponsible minor? We'll see...... and if Misty was out that night and not at home, I can see Ron forgiving that as well. Love is blind or so they say.

[Themis]

no, I don't think we "know" he paid for the tattoo OR the ring with donation money.

Let's be real here, and take away the suspicion of either Ron or Misty having anything to do with Haleigh missing (personally, IMO Haleigh was snatched when Misty was out partying or passed out).

It's fairly obvious, even though this is my opinion, we are not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here. I'm sure Ron is a hard working man, but a bright man doesn't have a 17 year old girlfriend living with him when it is against the law. A bright man doesn't get tattoos or propose to the teenage girlfriend in "Chilis".

As for Misty, I've always gotten the impression that not only is her education sorely lacking, but the look on her face just says "dull bulb" to me.

This is how this little cluster of family lives. Crystal and Ron have two babies. Ron and Crystal never bother to marry. Crystal loses custody of both kids to dad. Dad has 17 year old girlfriend. Instead of getting his children proper beds and bedrooms Dad spends his money on tattoos, trucks, etc. Mom Crystal has a third baby by another man. Did I read Crystal was engaged to her step-brother? It seems like every adult in this saga has some kind of arrest record for either petty crime or cheap drugs.

Quite frankly, this family (or thrown together family) has really perpetuated the redneck stereotype. As a matter of fact, not only do they seem to thrive on it, they don't seem bright enough to try to counter-act it in anyway.

This is what we are dealing with.

And oh yeah, a five year old girl is missing, and most probably, dead.
Reference Blackbird's post 777

You said it plainly. Also this is what all of the various Law Enforcement (LE) agencies have had to deal with since February 10.

I would only add to your post, Blackbird, is that there supposedly is another woman named Amber (age 17?) who also has a child by Cummings. As I recall, Misty was babysitting last year for Amber's child and that is how Misty met Cummings when Cummings came to visit.

P.S. You know, I've never heard mention of any girl friends/chums of Misty. I know Misty has at least one sister-in-law. Perhaps Crystal and Amber could be her bridesmaids. [JMO]

[Leather&Lace]

IMO, Ron and Misty are absolutely loving the media coverage. Also, IMO, they are just waiting for the big-bucks interviews, and I hope they never come for them.

You are most likely right. I doubt they would turn down an interview for $$.

It is so sad but it seems the uglier and more dysfunctional the family, the more coverage the missing child gets. Not to take anything away from any child missing but I believe it is the adults and their behavior that capture the attention of the media. Even with the Danielle Van Dam case, the swinging of the mom & dad made quiet the headlines.
JMO

[4Kids]

Um...just logging on to catch up on the news today and began reading this thread. I am stunned. What the heck? That is why this family should have representation. Good God, all I can sy is :crying:

I am no longer going to post my opinion here, because I really no longer have one. I don't really know what to think anymore. More bad decisions to top off the other ones. I guess I should offer congrats to the "happy couple"? Hope they hold off the wedding until this child is found..............no betting on it at this point.

Hope Haleigh comes home soon.
IMO

[Leather&Lace]

Reference Blackbird's post 777

You said it plainly. Also this is what all of the various Law Enforcement (LE) agencies have had to deal with since February 10.

I would only add to your post, Blackbird, is that there supposedly is another woman named Amber (age 17?) who also has a child by Cummings. As I recall, Misty was babysitting last year for Amber's child and that is how Misty met Cummings when Cummings came to visit.

P.S. You know, I've never heard mention of any girl friends/chums of Misty. I know Misty has at least one sister-in-law. Perhaps Crystal and Amber could be her bridesmaids. [JMO]

ummm, I am surprised the media has not tried to seek out Amber. Maybe Amber and her parents are trying to avoid the current events at all costs.
Wonder if RC was paying child support for that baby and if he ever saw that baby for visitation?

JMO

[MrLucky917B]

Do you think it possible they fingerprinted the exterior portions of the windows and around them?

I would assume so, since there were so many different LE's working on this case.

[aproudmom]

I haven't really followed the CA case, but the little girl is so cute, like Haleigh....I just wish they would find her. If she is no longer with us, she needs to be brought home. Plus, finding her body (hard to type) might in some way direct the investigation?? I just don't know...

OMG IlliniFan you talk about a crazy family it is the Anthony's I have followed it from day 31 since she never reported her child missing I just pray to GOD to bring little Haleigh home safe but the longer it goes the worse it looks and it is hard to type isnt it? all these children so sad so much pain families have to go through. I CAN NOT IMAGINE the PAIN

[TaraCrazyHair]

..... and if Misty was out that night and not at home, I can see Ron forgiving that as well. Love is blind or so they say.


This is the same man overheard on the 911 yelling to Misty ... "You B&%#H ... you got my child stole!"

Correct?



Ahem on love is blind ... must be plain stupid in their case

[TaraCrazyHair]

OMG IlliniFan you talk about a crazy family it is the Anthony's I have followed it from day 31 since she never reported her child missing I just pray to GOD to bring little Haleigh home safe but the longer it goes the worse it looks and it is hard to type isnt it? all these children so sad so much pain families have to go through. I CAN NOT IMAGINE the PAIN

This family dynamics is far crazier than the Anthony case

Maybe that is why the media staying away

Just far far far from normal

Hard to speak about it without sounding discriminating

[aproudmom]

..... and if Misty was out that night and not at home, I can see Ron forgiving that as well. Love is blind or so they say.

I am sorry but at 17 you dont know what love is or I didnt I guess also didn't someone say she left for 3 weeks and had just came back to RC? dont have a link just remember it from somewhere.