Tuesday 3/3 - Haleigh Cummings

[4Kids]

I sure hope they aren't now reduced to just following tips from psychics, but I sure don't know what to make of the doorbell tip. It really is mystifying.

JMO

I hope they aren't either. If that is the case....LE obviously has nothing..no evidence either way. Then I have to ask, if you have no evidence, why were more than 30 SO's cleared in days? That fact really bothers me either way. MOO

[CelticDawn]

Ummm... I think you quoted the wrong person. I never said anything about trailer parks or being careless. I actually asked for clarification of the post.

Since I live in a MH, it would be stupid for me to knock down someone else for it.

I thought I was agreeing with you about Ron....and rambled some...apologies for any confusion...

[CC I See]

I hope they aren't either. If that is the case....LE obviously has nothing..no evidence either way. Then I have to ask, if you have no evidence, why were more than 30 SO's cleared in days? That fact really bothers me either way. MOO..... it could be that they were electronically monitored and LE knows where they were that night and they weren't close to Haleigh's home.

[Erin26GA]

That was totally unnecessary, Erin26GA

maybe so, but very true. :wink:

[4Kids]

..... it could be that they were electronically monitored and LE knows where they were that night and they weren't close to Haleigh's home.

All of them? Perhaps. Would that be a reasonable assumption? Are all SO's electronically monitored? Weren't there close to 40 in this area? I am truly asking this question. I didn't know elecctronic monitoring was done that much? MOO

[breeze53]

I hope they aren't either. If that is the case....LE obviously has nothing..no evidence either way. Then I have to ask, if you have no evidence, why were more than 30 SO's cleared in days? That fact really bothers me either way. MOO

Is there a post # or a link to the doorbell info. I am only 10 pages behind:rolleyes::rolleyes: thanks to anyone who will anser me.

[CelticDawn]

Are you seriously saying that Ron was careless because he had to be at work when this happened? If so, I don't even think that requires a response...

We really need some new developments on here, the same discussion is being recycled over and over again! :bored:

I repeat RON left his children in the care of MISTY.....I dont know Misty so I dont KNOW if he was careless in doing that....but HE WAS WORKING<which I consider RESPONSIBLE>...thus not there to stop any intruder. Nothing more, nothing less to my post. :read:

[5swab5]

Was that Misty with him in that video? I'm trying not to judge, but I don't think getting a tattoo would be on my mind right now if I was in his position. And if what the people at the Tattoo shop said was true about him talking about all the money he is getting from his daughter being missing...that's a damn shame.:thumbdown:

Perhaps after hearing about all the money, that fools all across the world have sent the Anthonys, these bright people decided to perpetrate a little get-rich-quick scam of their own.

I hope Haleigh is safely tucked away someplace. MOO

[CelticDawn]

i've never lived in a trailer or trailer park but what's wrong with people living in trailers and trailer parks? and yes i'm sure some love it.

if Misty wasn't Rons girlfriend and she was just the neighbors daughter that spent the night while he was at work and they lived in a million dollar estate would that make everything better for you?

ANOTHER one that misunderstood my post. I was DEFENDING Ron...He was WORKING and I dont know...Misty may have it more together than the kids' mother for all any of us know.

[IlliniFan]

Door bell info

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18838209/detail.html

[Peaches]

Can you really say who is a 'good old boy' or not? Sorry, but is it really so black and white to you? OK, he smoked some pot, and doesn't have a condo in Miami Beach or Santa Monica, but the court awarded him custody of his two children, so he is obviously capable of taking care of them, and I am sure his little boy has enough food, clothes and shelter. He has been as involved in the search for Haleigh as it has been possible for him without jeopardizing the investigation, and even though I may or may not agree with his choice of lifestyle, I do not see how that's relevant here, because Haleigh's disappearance has nothing to do with Ron smoking pot or getting tattoos (and maybe that's his way of unwinding, whereas others might take walks or drink heavily).

JMO



And.................I agree with all of the above. :thumbsup:

[4Kids]

I repeat RON left his children in the care of MISTY.....I dont know Misty so I dont KNOW if he was careless in doing that....but HE WAS WORKING<which I consider RESPONSIBLE>...thus not there to stop any intruder. Nothing more, nothing less to my post. :read:

There are thousands of children in our country left alone for days, abused, starved, homeless, exposed to drugs in their system and molested by their caregivers (just to name a few). That Ron was at work while his girlfiend watched the children is certainly not the height of irresponsiblity. Perhaps he should have skipped the job and collected welfare. I'm sure he wouldn't be bashed for that...LOL. MOO

[breeze53]

All of them? Perhaps. Would that be a reasonable assumption? Are all SO's electronically monitored? Weren't there close to 40 in this area? I am truly asking this question. I didn't know elecctronic monitoring was done that much? MOO

Me either but i think they should make it mandatory. At least that way we could keep up with them better.

[CelticDawn]

My bold.

Yes, they do. I know quite a few people who live in trailers and/or trailer parks. Some lots by a an inlet run 4K a month. Way out of my league.
As for the man in black, if someone wants to take a child, I don't think it matters if there is an adult man living there. We have seen too many cases where the whole family was in the house when a child was taken.
jmo

I am not referring to the type of trailer part that you refer to....Obviously the neighborhood in which Ron lives is not the type that you refer to.

[breeze53]

Door bell info

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18838209/detail.html


Thank you so much!:smile:

[crymeariver2006]

It is easy for some to slam Ron, but I didn't see anywhere in your post a mention regarding Crystal not paying child support.
Notice, I didn't say she was evil, or non-caring because she didn't pay or try to pay, just that she wasn't helping with buying food, diapers etc. Ron was the one putting out the costs for his children. Crystal got to be the "good one", visiting every other weekend, without worrying about paying for school clothes, school insurance, books, backpacks, shoes, clothing, 3 meals a day, etc. She wasn't paying for any of that, walking around scott free. Now that is wrong, and I don't blame Ron for asking the state to force her to pay. The timing was lousy, but he had no idea this was gonna happen.......if he did know, I don't think he would have gone the aggravation of pursuing the child support, or lack there of.....
I know, the first thing I will read is that she was pregnant, in a car wreck and couldn't afford to pay. True, but she should have been paying before she had all that trouble. Once all that happened to her, she should have gone to court with an explanation. She could have at least tried to obtain and adjustment. I know this is possible for an absolute fact.

To be fair, we don't know for a fact that she didn't ask for an adjustment or explain any extenuating circumstances.

There are other court documents later than the one from 12/05 that are not live-linked so we have no idea what they contain.

People get behind in child support as well as other bills. That doesn't make them horrible people who don't care. If she didn't care, I would think that she would have never paid a dime for the past 3 1/2 years, moved away from Florida, changed her name, and never visited the children. As opposed to just owing about a year's worth of child support. Economics are what they are and if she hasn't been able to find a job, she's not alone.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Well, Misty seemed to think it's true. It was reported that she told Ron that the child wasn't being cared for properly (in her opinion) and that he needed to try and get it. Why would she say that if Ron wasn't the father? What business of it would be his?

Then Misty leaves that hateful message on the girl's MySpace about getting her man and her baby too.

I'm no Barry Scheck, but I'd say there's at least a 99.99% chance that the other baby is his. :wink:


Where was it "reported"? I have only seen a myspace account that may or may not contain a comment from Misty since we have no IT forensics here IMO.

Barry Scheck or not, Cindy was corresponding with Casey's account without her approval while Casey was in the same room according to one of the interviews with someone outside the family, so I don't have much confidence in that allegation. JMO:wink:

[WhiteShark]

Not sure where the Tat info is coming from and how true it is, but I know it doesn't matter if it were false as these same people attacking Ron for getting a Tat would then be attacking him for NOT getting one. The guy can't win and I myself am happy he isn't trying.
The posters who feel their lives are so perfect that they can throw stones clearly do not understand a couple of things-
the first is depression, to be in the bowls of darkness with no light at the tunnel is pure Hell. You do what you have to in order to feel better even if for only 20 minutes or so.
Then I would say you don't understand "cutters" cutters, usually female- feel so much pain on the inside that they cut themselves in order to feel a different pain for just a few minutes- the best way I can describe it is wanting to hurt outside more than you do inside.
Now take both of those thoughts and add the culture of Tattoos- Tats HURT the bigger they are and the closer to bone they are the more pain you feel.
perhaps you can stop and think that Ron putting himself in physical pain honoring Haleigh could have saved his life- it gave him a relase of all the pain he holds inside- it will never go away but now he has Haleigh with him always no matter what.


I love this post!
You put into words one thing I was really feeling and thinking. The pain of tattoos and the pain of a missing child.

I never had a tattoo, but I have had a child kidnapped and not being able to see them or know where they were at for 5 years. It is pain you can't imagine unless you have been there. To have a child or as in my case both children, MISSING, (from my home at night, the babysitter was overpowered, I was at work):cursing:--------hopefully walking the face of the earth and you can't find them. As someone posted above about hiring PI's. I did this, spent over 20 grand traveling and looking for the boys because the cops did nothing as the kidnapper was their father. Finally I found them and brought them home.
The pain is almost unbearable. I can't imagine if someone took my child and killed my child...:cursing:...the only good thing about a child being kidnapped and murdered is you know where they are..it wouldn't help, be at least you would know......
God Bless all the parents and families who have and are living thru this nightmare.:rose:

[CelticDawn]

There are thousands of children in our country left alone for days, abused, starved, homeless, exposed to drugs in their system and molested by their caregivers (just to name a few). That Ron was at work while his girlfiend watched the children is certainly not the height of irresponsiblity. Perhaps he should have skipped the job and collected welfare. I'm sure he wouldn't be bashed for that...LOL. MOO

working? Leaving kids with girlfriend<at least she wasnt some stranger>....I would never and am not bashing the man for working....

[crymeariver2006]

Perhaps after hearing about all the money, that fools all across the world have sent the Anthonys, these bright people decided to perpetrate a little get-rich-quick scam of their own.

I hope Haleigh is safely tucked away someplace. MOO

Me too.

IF it is a scam, whoever is behind it needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

[CelticDawn]

well i'm sorry if i misunderstood.

No Problem...Its such an emotional thing when we see kids being lost like this.

[Pag Boi]

It is easy for some to slam Ron, but I didn't see anywhere in your post a mention regarding Crystal not paying child support.
Notice, I didn't say she was evil, or non-caring because she didn't pay or try to pay, just that she wasn't helping with buying food, diapers etc. Ron was the one putting out the costs for his children. Crystal got to be the "good one", visiting every other weekend, without worrying about paying for school clothes, school insurance, books, backpacks, shoes, clothing, 3 meals a day, etc. She wasn't paying for any of that, walking around scott free. Now that is wrong, and I don't blame Ron for asking the state to force her to pay. The timing was lousy, but he had no idea this was gonna happen.......if he did know, I don't think he would have gone the aggravation of pursuing the child support, or lack there of.....
I know, the first thing I will read is that she was pregnant, in a car wreck and couldn't afford to pay. True, but she should have been paying before she had all that trouble. Once all that happened to her, she should have gone to court with an explanation. She could have at least tried to obtain and adjustment. I know this is possible for an absolute fact.


IA, WhiteShark!

Crystal was unemployed in the 12/27/05 hearing when the judge gave her the amended child support amount she was to pay. His first amount was based on her earning min.wage.

Wasn't Crystal's car wreck in Oct. 2007? She couldn't work but she could get pregnant and have another child without supporting the ones she already? But it's not okay for Ron to have another tattoo? Hmmm.
JMOO

[4Kids]

working? Leaving kids with girlfriend<at least she wasnt some stranger>....I would never and am not bashing the man for working....

I understood your OP and was just giving you a "right on bro/sis" high five sort of thing. Feel the love. Not much on the board today....MOO

[Erin26GA]

Perhaps after hearing about all the money, that fools all across the world have sent the Anthonys, these bright people decided to perpetrate a little get-rich-quick scam of their own.

I hope Haleigh is safely tucked away someplace. MOO

This scenario has crossed my mind a time or two also. But, I'm not so sure anymore. The way things are looking...I wish it was the case.

[crymeariver2006]

Where was it "reported"? I have only seen a myspace account that may or may not contain a comment from Misty since we have no IT forensics here IMO.

Barry Scheck or not, Cindy was corresponding with Casey's account without her approval while Casey was in the same room according to one of the interviews with someone outside the family, so I don't have much confidence in that allegation. JMO:wink:

It was reported in one of the media links about how Misty and Ron met while she was babysitting the child in question.

Oh yes, I'm sure it's a vast consipiracy by MySpace and the Misty-haters to allow someone to pretend to be Misty and BACKDATE postings when they don't allow anyone else to post anything but by the current date. Tom should be made aware of this phenomenon! :ohmy:

[4Kids]

O/T Todays Oprah will deal w/ just what you are talking about.

Thanks Double T. I'll have to TiVo....soon out the door for my Autism Support meeting...hope some big news comes back while I am away. MOO

[CelticDawn]

Some do, some don't.

I think I owe you an apology on your earlier post. I think I misconstrued it, like some others.

No problem...Im so frustrated that that little girl hasn't been found that I only come to read once or twice a day ,...and the borad moves so fast I can see why people misunderstand each other.

[WhiteShark]

Who said he lost her yet? Does he know something everyone else doesn't. If he stays effed out of his mind he is of no benefit to her or the search for her. I'd also venture to say a xanax is waayy beyond his threshold, especially after seeing his rap sheet.


his rap sheet..........how many of those charges was he actually convicted of. And when he had to wreck, he passed a drug test. Although Crystal and her family seem to forget to include that info.

Also, how long ago were his last charges.......seems to me, he was the only one working and supporting his children. He couldn't afford to stay messed up. The kids sure weren't getting any support from their mother.

Ron probably doesn't know who to trust in the media, after all, that idot gr, sucker punched him. And a majority of the others seem more focused on his and Misty's past instead of talking about Haleigh.

[CC I See]

JonBenet Ramsey's parents were hounded by LE, the News Media and Public Opinion when she was found murdered. To this day, some people are still convinced that one or the other or both killed her.

It doesn't seem to make a difference if someone lives in a big Mansion or a Mobile Home, when a child goes missing or murdered, the family or caregivers are the first suspects and sometimes the only suspects when there is little evidence to prove otherwise. It also is called blaming the victim(s), whether it is fair or not, it goes on.

I think the big extended Haleigh's family feels horrible right now, I don't want to add to their misery by making any unkind remarks to add to that pain.

For those of you who followed the Jessica Lunsford case, you understand...... John Couey killed Jessica and the family had absolutely nothing to do with it yet they were absolutely vilified throughout the days before he was named and arrested for her murder. I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I only want to find out what happened to Haleigh and the person responsible to pay for what they did.

For what it's worth, I think that LE knows exactly who is responsible but has yet to locate her remains or has been unable to break this person. Until that happens, some of us will continue to spin around and around going nowhere with this case.

[TunaMelt]

WOW!!!! I guess you have never been in a project then??? Some people can only do with what they have. They have no choice. Some don't even understand that they could have a choice. KWIM??
As for Misty watching the kids, what is the problem???
jmo

No, I've never lived in a project. ETA: I've been in a project. I've never lived in one.

Some people do with what they have. Yes, that's true. And some try to do better by themselves and their families by leaving a bad environment and working like there is no tomorrow. They know that if they repeat the lives of their fathers and mothers, they can expect nothing better than the lives of their mothers and fathers.

On the other hand, some people take what little they have and make it a lot worse by complicating their lives and those in their families with drugs, abuse (physical and verbal), and a host of other behaviors that can and do ruin lives. Being Money Poor doesn't mean you have to make yourself poorer in other ways. There is poverty in riches, and there is poverty in spirit. KWIM?

Misty watching the kids is wrong. She's not just babysitting for them for a long evening, she's living in, trying to behave like their mother, and she's a kid herself.
The fact that Ron Cummings made the decision to have her there in that position, a child overseeing other children in their mother's role, was another wrong decision that Ron Cummings made.

As for not knowing there's a better life to be had outside of the trailer park, I don't buy that. He's got a television in that tent he lives in. He knows most people in this country don't live in tents, just by watching teevee.
So he knows.
He just hasn't done anything about it.

For his son's sake, I wish he would.

[Peaches]

People kill themselves all the time over losing a child. Do you really think 'a mild Xanax here and there' even touches that kind of pain? Wow.


It is my opinion..................you can tell by the post................who have suffered a loss and who has not.

You are correct...................Xanax is necessary for many to get out of bed...............

And for some to say.............he got up as if from sleeping...............when you experience such an event............you can not sleep.

MOO

[omsk99]

No problem...Im so frustrated that that little girl hasn't been found that I only come to read once or twice a day ,...and the borad moves so fast I can see why people misunderstand each other.

ITA, sorry I misunderstood you before :seeya:

[Peaches]

LMAO......Mimi......Hey we are saying what the public is thinking. The same public Ron needs if he wants to find his daughter.


Some of us who do not agree with you are ................some of the public too...........................

the ones Ron needs to help find his daughter.

[DenVIP]

can someone tell me how long Ron knew Misty....I know I saw that they were "together" 5 months...... but did they know each other longer?

[Peaches]

Was that were he was drugged out of his mind,robbed a bank ,shoot 3 tellers and LE would not charge him because they knew he was an informant and would be found NG.
Did that help madge?? Now will you be my friend?:laugh::laugh:



Thanks for the laugh.

I would consider it an honor to be your friend............:rose:

[Peaches]

Okay heres a link if you are having trouble with the Bay News one. CRYMEARIVER 1st posted it.

There is an article and to the right is video that deals with what he was saying about all the money he was getting as per the folks inside shop:


http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/lo...NKoYu8SYg.cspx


All hear say................not one person would speak to the reporter.................so I do not believe it was said.

moo

[Texas48]

No problem...Im so frustrated that that little girl hasn't been found that I only come to read once or twice a day ,...and the borad moves so fast I can see why people misunderstand each other.Hello Celtic. IMO..we are all frustrated by now. So strange a baby/child can be with us one day and then "poof" gone the next. It is an extremely sad case and , for me, sadder because Haleigh cannot be found alive or dead. We are all good people here on our boards and we have alot of different opinions which is GOOD and many can disagree with a post with RESPECT. jmo

[Peaches]

Actually, if you listen to the GR interview again, he asks Ron if he is on drugs, if he is a drug runner, is an informant, etc. He does not ask if he was any of these things and does not ask if "in the past" he did any of these things. GR was speaking in the present sense and as such, Ron answered no. So, regardless of what his rap sheet says, I don't think there was anything on it to say he has done anything drug related in the last...3 or 4 years. Therefore the answer he gave was truthful if he is not doing anything now.

IMo


Excellent post.

That is what I heard while listening to the interview too................are you on drugs................not were you.................

Big difference!

Even our president admitted to doing drugs.................maybe he is a bad father.

[Pag Boi]

It was reported in one of the media links about how Misty and Ron met while she was babysitting the child in question.

Oh yes, I'm sure it's a vast consipiracy by MySpace and the Misty-haters to allow someone to pretend to be Misty and BACKDATE postings when they don't allow anyone else to post anything but by the current date. Tom should be made aware of this phenomenon! :ohmy:

I wonder why Amber hasn't come out to slander Ron or Misty the way that Crystal has? Would't that be a wish come true for so many on here.

[TunaMelt]

It is easy for some to slam Ron, but I didn't see anywhere in your post a mention regarding Crystal not paying child support.
Notice, I didn't say she was evil, or non-caring because she didn't pay or try to pay, just that she wasn't helping with buying food, diapers etc. Ron was the one putting out the costs for his children. Crystal got to be the "good one", visiting every other weekend, without worrying about paying for school clothes, school insurance, books, backpacks, shoes, clothing, 3 meals a day, etc. She wasn't paying for any of that, walking around scott free. Now that is wrong, and I don't blame Ron for asking the state to force her to pay. The timing was lousy, but he had no idea this was gonna happen.......if he did know, I don't think he would have gone the aggravation of pursuing the child support, or lack there of.....
I know, the first thing I will read is that she was pregnant, in a car wreck and couldn't afford to pay. True, but she should have been paying before she had all that trouble. Once all that happened to her, she should have gone to court with an explanation. She could have at least tried to obtain and adjustment. I know this is possible for an absolute fact.

In no way at no time did I say that Crystal shouldn't pay her child support.
I said only that the $400 used to pay for a tatoo could be better used to pay for his little boy's care, such as food and clothes.
But I don't think Crystal should get a pass.

Good god she's as much of the problem as is Ron. They both share the blame for this life they live and have dumped on their children -- they created the hell that Haleigh and Junior have to live in.

That doesn't seem real smart to me, and it doesn't seem fair -- but that's what we can expect from the likes of Ron and Crystal and their selfish, careless lives.

[Texas48]

JonBenet Ramsey's parents were hounded by LE, the News Media and Public Opinion when she was found murdered. To this day, some people are still convinced that one or the other or both killed her.

It doesn't seem to make a difference if someone lives in a big Mansion or a Mobile Home, when a child goes missing or murdered, the family or caregivers are the first suspects and sometimes the only suspects when there is little evidence to prove otherwise. It also is called blaming the victim(s), whether it is fair or not, it goes on.

I think the big extended Haleigh's family feels horrible right now, I don't want to add to their misery by making any unkind remarks to add to that pain.

For those of you who followed the Jessica Lunsford case, you understand...... John Couey killed Jessica and the family had absolutely nothing to do with it yet they were absolutely vilified throughout the days before he was named and arrested for her murder. I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I only want to find out what happened to Haleigh and the person responsible to pay for what they did.

For what it's worth, I think that LE knows exactly who is responsible but has yet to locate her remains or has been unable to break this person. Until that happens, some of us will continue to spin around and around going nowhere with this case.EXCELLENT POST..will NOT snip. ITA CC I SEE. :thumbsup:

[crymeariver2006]

I wonder why Amber hasn't come out to slander Ron or Misty the way that Crystal has? Would't that be a wish come true for so many on here.

Maybe she's been interviewed by the police and maybe that's why they can't clear anybody in those families.

I wouldn't take her media silence as anything more than what it is.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

All hear say................not one person would speak to the reporter.................so I do not believe it was said.

moo

Why would the reporter lie about such a thing?

That wouldn't make any sense especially knowing it was going to be broadcast on the evening news. The tattoo guys would probably beat the crap out of him if he lied about them like that.

JMO

[Peaches]

(Colored what I am going to respond to)

Geraldo said " You don't do drugs.", not "You didn't do drugs?" or "You have never done..."

don't is present...didn't and done is past

JMO

JMO


Thank you so much for clearing this up......................

GR asked do you do drugs............and Ron said NO............I beleive him

[Mimi428]

Oh so you really think he is in a position to choose?

If he is, he is a rare person, indeed.

JMO

(p.s. a little PM housekeeping is in order, tyvm. Even if you live in trees)

[Mimi428]

Even our president admitted to doing drugs.................maybe he is a bad father.


<snipped>

OK, so Crystal admitted it, 'our president' admitted it. When did Ron admit anything? I think I missed it.

TIA

[Pag Boi]

Maybe she's been interviewed by the police and maybe that's why they can't clear anybody in those families.

I wouldn't take her media silence as anything more than what it is.

JMO

Of course you wouldn't. Why take anyone's media silence as anything more than what is? Picking & choosing what is appropriate behavior is silly JMOO

[CANDYKISSES]

It was reported in one of the media links about how Misty and Ron met while she was babysitting the child in question.

Oh yes, I'm sure it's a vast consipiracy by MySpace and the Misty-haters to allow someone to pretend to be Misty and BACKDATE postings when they don't allow anyone else to post anything but by the current date. Tom should be made aware of this phenomenon! :ohmy:

Is this an example of your attempt at humor because you don't have a credible link to support your claim? :sneaky: I think you can do better.

[Pag Boi]

Is this an example of your attempt at humor because you don't have a credible link to support your claim? :sneaky: I think you can do better.


There is so much misinformation in this case, there is prolly a link to support every claim :lol: Heck, when there is a link and a quote, some want to bend it and explain others "what it really meant." JMOO from reading here.

[CANDYKISSES]

Why would the reporter lie about such a thing?

That wouldn't make any sense especially knowing it was going to be broadcast on the evening news. The tattoo guys would probably beat the crap out of him if he lied about them like that.

JMO

Oh my, this is rich Cryme. They would probably "beat the crap out of him", yet they didn't want to put their name or face on the reporter's words......:rolleyes:

Think about it, that makes no sense whatsoever IMO. Are you stereotyping the tattoo artists now too? Good grief, maybe they were trying to hide their designer jeans because they read the web. :wink:

I can think of a plethora of reasons the reporter would embellish his story starting with Ron's refusal to malign Crystal and ending with his refusal to give him something to start things up with Geraldo again. Hmm....yeah, that might fit for why he embellished his story, but that's JMO.

[TunaMelt]

All my post in red. All my opinions.

And your opinions are well-founded and I respect them.

I still don't see in him what you do, but that's what discussion is all about.

[CANDYKISSES]

Good Point.......The Tat guys I know are twice the size as that reporter!!

AND you got right from Ron's lips him complaining about the cameras.

It is NEVER a good thing when people start questioning where public donations are going.......why even take that chance?

Up the reward........TATS CAN WAIT!!

Other than right here, just exactly where are these people you claim are questioning donations? :confused: How are you so sure his mother didn't give him the money?

Here we go with the stereotyping again. If it's not the KIND OF PEOPLE that live in a trailer, it's the kind of people who are tattoo artists. Here is a FYI, here in my hometown THERE ARE probably as many women as men doing the tattoos, and they come in many colors too. It's almost like opening a box of CRAYOLA CRAYONS. We all seem to fit in the box just fine, but look different. Imagine that. :ohmy:IF YOU DARE. JMO

[Peaches]

IA, WhiteShark!

Crystal was unemployed in the 12/27/05 hearing when the judge gave her the amended child support amount she was to pay. His first amount was based on her earning min.wage.

Wasn't Crystal's car wreck in Oct. 2007? She couldn't work but she could get pregnant and have another child without supporting the ones she already? But it's not okay for Ron to have another tattoo? Hmmm.
JMOO



Exactly.................

Also, I heard that she received or is going to receive a big settlement from that accident.

moo

[playnice]

HHN. No one-Not even cousin Joe-has been cleared per Captain ? .
Community rumors is Joe used blocks to prop open doors in his past crimes.:w00t:

[IM4Truth]

HHN. No one-Not even cousin Joe-has been cleared per Captain ? .
Community rumors is Joe used blocks to prop open doors in his past crimes.:w00t:

I just heard that part on HLN that no one has been cleared yet, but did they mention Joe and propping open doors with blocks? I didn't hear that.

[CANDYKISSES]

The reporter said it right in front of the shop. If he was going to lie, for no good reason at that, then he would not of done it with people coming and going from the shop!!

Why wouldn't the reporter have used his camera just like he did with Ron? That makes no sense, but we certainly know he wanted to refuel the Geraldo fiasco and was hoping to get some scoop on Crystal and her family IMO. :ohmy:

[CANDYKISSES]

Read my post again.......I said the Tat artist I know!!......NOT you know!!
How is that sterotyping?
You really think the people here are going to be the only ones questioning where funds are going after seeing that report?........Hey email the reporter Call his station........I sure would if I thought he was lying!! Dont kill the messengers go to the source!!

TATS CAN WAIT!!.........UP THE REWARD!!

Nobody has said anything about missing funds and if the reporter is trying to incite some action, I'm sure someone will come out and address the concerns eventually. Again, thusfar all I've seen is right here. JMO.

I see posters ashamed that anyone might think they lived in a trailer who need to qualify their posts with a pre-requisite of only visiting the project. Pretty soon we'll see posters needing to qualify their tattoo artist comments by alluding to just walking by the tattoo parlor and never having been inside IMO. :wink:

[Peaches]

Read my post again.......I said the Tat artist I know!!......NOT you know!!
How is that sterotyping?
You really think the people here are going to be the only ones questioning where funds are going after seeing that report?........Hey email the reporter Call his station........I sure would if I thought he was lying!! Dont kill the messengers go to the source!!

TATS CAN WAIT!!.........UP THE REWARD!!


Up the reward??????????????????????

Millions were offered for Natalee Holloway .............did not help.

[IM4Truth]

Why wouldn't the reporter have used his camera just like he did with Ron? That makes no sense, but we certainly know he wanted to refuel the Geraldo fiasco and was hoping to get some scoop on Crystal and her family IMO. :ohmy:

I'm not sure how sig lines work, but this one doesn't have anything to do with this case. I read both cases and got confused which case I was on when I saw the sig line. Just wondering?

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm not sure how sig lines work, but this one doesn't have anything to do with this case. I read both cases and got confused which case I was on when I saw the sig line. Just wondering?

Signature lines are universal on the forums if that's what you are questioning. When you elect to use a signature line, it appears each time you post. The option is available in your user control panel. :smile:

[5swab5]

(snipped)

up the reward........tats can wait!!

thank you!

[Mimi428]

TATS CAN WAIT!!.........UP THE REWARD!!

And - contact the Polly Klaas Foundation -


http://www.pollyklaas.org/yourchild/


Keep The Hope Alive.

Let Us Help You Find
Your Runaway or Missing Child

This is your time of greatest need. We can provide concrete help:

Professional caseworkers counsel you on ways to search for your child.
Create a personalized missing child poster for your child.
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Work directly with the police handling your child’s case.
Help you work with your community, law enforcement and the media.

I'm thinking that Mark Klaas would have a lot to suggest to Ron & the others on how to make productive use of their time.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

HHN. No one-Not even cousin Joe-has been cleared per Captain ? .
Community rumors is Joe used blocks to prop open doors in his past crimes.:w00t:

I believe he said the rumors were coming from the "Croslin side of the family".

I guess if Misty can't make him a pedophile because he "messed with her" when they were children, might as well make him the "Cinder Block Bandit".

:wink:

[crymeariver2006]

Misty probably remembered that. IMO, she would have set him up in a minute.

IMO, she is suspect #1


I agree. The police even said that the only person that saw Haleigh (besides Misty) after Ron went to work was a neighbor.

Not the A/C guy.

Not Misty's brother.

[Mimi428]

I agree. The police even said that the only person that saw Haleigh (besides Misty) after Ron went to work was a neighbor.

Not the A/C guy.

Not Misty's brother.

Not Annette Sykes, either?

Oh dear.

[crymeariver2006]

Oh my, this is rich Cryme. They would probably "beat the crap out of him", yet they didn't want to put their name or face on the reporter's words......:rolleyes:

Think about it, that makes no sense whatsoever IMO. Are you stereotyping the tattoo artists now too? Good grief, maybe they were trying to hide their designer jeans because they read the web. :wink:

I can think of a plethora of reasons the reporter would embellish his story starting with Ron's refusal to malign Crystal and ending with his refusal to give him something to start things up with Geraldo again. Hmm....yeah, that might fit for why he embellished his story, but that's JMO.


Stereotyping the tattoo artists?

Heck no. I'd probably beat the crap out of anybody that lied about me on national tv. Or at least correct the record.

We shall see if this happens though. I'll be sure and save the link. :wink:

That reporter has a boss and if that boss thought that his reporting consisted of "embellishing" because of Geraldo nonsense, he would be fired or called out on it.

I'll wait to see if that happens too.

[crymeariver2006]

Not Annette Sykes, either?

Oh dear.

Nope.

Not even Great Grandma.

[emdragon]

Stereotyping the tattoo artists?

Heck no. I'd probably beat the crap out of anybody that lied about me on national tv. Or at least correct the record.

We shall see if this happens though. I'll be sure and save the link. :wink:

That reporter has a boss and if that boss thought that his reporting consisted of "embellishing" because of Geraldo nonsense, he would be fired or called out on it.

I'll wait to see if that happens too.

My daughter works at a Television station would you like me to have her fill you in on how the news works?

There are very gray areas and ways of wording things reporters do it all the time and they get away with it.

[crymeariver2006]

Is this an example of your attempt at humor because you don't have a credible link to support your claim? :sneaky: I think you can do better.

Humor?

I think you've been following this case just as long as I have and I'm pretty sure you've seen the media links that talked about "Misty's babysitting of Ron's other child". Whether you read them or believe them is up to you.

I don't need a credible link that says Myspace lets you backdate posts on somebody else's page. It doesn't happen.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

My daughter works at a Television station would you like me to have her fill you in on how the news works?

There are very gray areas and ways of wording things reporters do it all the time and they get away with it.


Mine does too. We can compare notes!

[Politigal]

JonBenet Ramsey's parents were hounded by LE, the News Media and Public Opinion when she was found murdered. To this day, some people are still convinced that one or the other or both killed her.

It doesn't seem to make a difference if someone lives in a big Mansion or a Mobile Home, when a child goes missing or murdered, the family or caregivers are the first suspects and sometimes the only suspects when there is little evidence to prove otherwise. It also is called blaming the victim(s), whether it is fair or not, it goes on.

I think the big extended Haleigh's family feels horrible right now, I don't want to add to their misery by making any unkind remarks to add to that pain.

For those of you who followed the Jessica Lunsford case, you understand...... John Couey killed Jessica and the family had absolutely nothing to do with it yet they were absolutely vilified throughout the days before he was named and arrested for her murder. I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I only want to find out what happened to Haleigh and the person responsible to pay for what they did.

For what it's worth, I think that LE knows exactly who is responsible but has yet to locate her remains or has been unable to break this person. Until that happens, some of us will continue to spin around and around going nowhere with this case.

What a wonderful post....and so compassionate...

[Mimi428]

The doorbell tip/lead:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18842351/detail.html

Let's discuss this tip/lead. What could it have been about? (Yes I read back, but the MIS-information also said a house where they didn't live???)

So.... could this be:
1) a "noise" heard on a ransom call?
2) a "noise" heard on one of the "tapes" taken from the scene?
3) a "noise" heard on a tip call?
4) OR what?

Let's keep the focus on HALEIGH CUMMINGS. Stop the bickering, please.

Has there BEEN a ransom call?

[Mimi428]

God Bless Ed Smart. He's trying to HELP. Let's help Haleigh's family, PLEASE.

Surviving Parents Coalition http://www.survivingparentscoalition.org/


I think the Surviving Parents Coalition does good work, but I do not believe their mission is to work with parents who are in the middle of a missing child case.

From your link...

OUR MISSION:
To prevent predatory crimes against children and young people.

WHAT WE DO:
Advocate for comprehensive prevention education for children and families and educate the public and lawmakers about best practices to stop predatory crimes.

[march27]

Sorry if I missd this but what link says no one saw Haleigh but neighbor after Ron went to work? TIA just hopped on.

[playnice]

I agree. The police even said that the only person that saw Haleigh (besides Misty) after Ron went to work was a neighbor.

Not the A/C guy.

Not Misty's brother.

wow Cry. I didnt know that. Interesting that the AC man didnt see her.

[TunaMelt]

Nobody has said anything about missing funds and if the reporter is trying to incite some action, I'm sure someone will come out and address the concerns eventually. Again, thusfar all I've seen is right here. JMO.

I see posters ashamed that anyone might think they lived in a trailer who need to qualify their posts with a pre-requisite of only visiting the project. Pretty soon we'll see posters needing to qualify their tattoo artist comments by alluding to just walking by the tattoo parlor and never having been inside IMO. :wink:

"I see posters ashamed that anyone might think they lived in a trailer who need to qualify their posts with a pre-requisite [sic] of only visiting the project."

Your snide attitude doesn't work with me. Please drop it.

Now: My comment that I have never lived in a project was directly in response to the question that was put to me.

One more time: I was answering a question, I was not apologizing for anything. Not one thing, one way or another.

ETA: I'm not aware of ever walking by a tatoo parlor. And if I ever did, I walked right by. Never went in. Never will. There are those who do, and those who don't. I guess you do. LOL.

[kitty1182]

wow Cry. I didnt know that. Interesting that the AC man didnt see her.

Very interesting!!!!!

[Politigal]

I agree. The police even said that the only person that saw Haleigh (besides Misty) after Ron went to work was a neighbor.

Not the A/C guy.

Not Misty's brother.

Do you have a link? I've never seen that info.

[IlliniFan]

wow Cry. I didnt know that. Interesting that the AC man didnt see her.

I totally missed that? Where did the info come from, sorry fixing supper.....tia

[IlliniFan]

I have no clue what you are talking about. More info/explain, please. Who the heck has a throw away phone? I'm S L O W.


You can buy tracfones at Walmart etc..you add the minutes...I'm not sure they can be traced back to the owner

[Pag Boi]

Nobody has said anything about missing funds and if the reporter is trying to incite some action, I'm sure someone will come out and address the concerns eventually. Again, thusfar all I've seen is right here. JMO.

I see posters ashamed that anyone might think they lived in a trailer who need to qualify their posts with a pre-requisite of only visiting the project. Pretty soon we'll see posters needing to qualify their tattoo artist comments by alluding to just walking by the tattoo parlor and never having been inside IMO. :wink:

LOL

The psychologist on the JVM show said there was no reason to judge Ron for getting a tattoo of his daughter. That no one should judge the actions of the families since they have never been in this situation. None of the "experts" on the show raisded any concerns about Ron's actions.

I guess some here think that LE isn't up to snuff. As if poster complaints about Ron's tat will have any effect on the investigation.
JMOO

[IlliniFan]

I got that part but what does that have to do with this link about the doorbell and the ? I asked/supposed?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18842351/detail.html

SO ... a throw away phone was used for WHAT? To call in and a doorbell was heard and the neighbor said they had no doorbell that sounded like that. K?

I was responding to the throw away phone info..(sorry for the confusion)

I thought maybe jr. heard a chiming noise ...but why they checked that man's house I don't know?

Someone else mentioned that cars with the keys left in the ignition, and door open can make a chiming noise..

People can get all kind of ringtones...Probably even one that chimes?

How that associates to the man's trailer is beyond me.....


Sorry, not too helpful.....

[breeze53]

Hi Breeze........Sorry I just saw where you asked fme or the link......
CRYMEARIVER 1st posted it.

There is an article and to the right is video that deals with what he was saying about all the money he was getting as per the folks inside shop, it also shows Ron now complaining about the cameras:


http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/lo...NKoYu8SYg.cspx


IMO he didnt look stressed at all, I am leaning more and more towards him kmowing what happed to Haleigh. Thanks for the link.

[breeze53]

Gotcha. I said I was S L O W. lol.

But why check the neighbor's (close by) house for a doorbell or a grandfathers clock for the SOUND IF untraceable? Makes no sense to me, but heck I am S L O W.

Peace.


This grandfather phone thing has got me puzzled:rolleyes:It don't take much.

[VC2]

on Issue's have a transcript after her show?

If so, and this may be where the other poster heard it.

I was watching JVM and " IF " I understood correctly, Ron seen Haleigh after school and then the neighbor seen her outside playing and the neighbor was the last one to see her alive. ( besides Misty of course)

Did anyone else see the show?...Is that how they understood it?

This day has been full of " shocks" as far as I am concerned.

the thing is that Junior will have been able to tell them when he saw Haleigh. Whether or not you believe his man in black statement, at 4 years old he is definitely old enough to tell LE if haleigh was there for dinner or in bed when he went to bed in the same room. Same with a fight with misty or something.

He has been questioned by trained professionals who know how to talk to children.

IF he had told LE that haleigh was gone before bed, or something happened then i think misty would be under arrest already so it seems like he must have seen her at least. This is not a case where there is no witness all evening long, jr is one