Thursday 2/26 Haleigh Cummings

[PBJMOM4]

OT also...my Priest said to give to charity instead of giving something up for Lent. I just love him LOL

Any more news of the search?

Wow, another great idea!

Anyone in Florida hearing anymore about the dogs or helicopter?

[crymeariver2006]

ITA, just happened around here last week, all kinds of drugs and weapons so completely possible. I wonder how many of the the Bad people would have known Ron moved to a different trailer though. Could be Misty was running a home based business after hours, you just never know. JMO

By "home based business", you mean Avon?

:laugh:

J/K

[Mandysmom]

I cant picture her killing someone but I know that looks can be deceiving. I do wonder if she left that house and left them alone.
I can just see LE asking Jr when he saw the MIB did he tell Misti and Jr saying Misti gone.
If she is lying I think that would most be likely what she is lying about.
I also have a hard time believing LE cant crack her.
She doesnt appear that tough to me.

I don't think she killed Haleigh either. I do believe it could very possibly be someone who just targeted the house because they knew she would be there alone with the kids.

I think that Misty is trying to tell the truth as best she can. I can certainly understand being confused about some things and the way LE questions, it would make it even worse. They are just trying to get to the truth but it can be very intimidating and confusing.

I do believe she needs an attorney to guide her through the questioning.

[Mandysmom]

O/T
I love the sig line but Chocoloate would have been easier to give up for Lent! You're going to hell now. :laugh:

I know. :scared: I try, goodness knows I try. lol

[CANDYKISSES]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

Why would they have torn James Batchelor's home apart? What's up with searching the buildings out there twice? Has someone implicated him in this? :confused:

JMO

[Mandysmom]

When people are innocent, they don't think they need a lawyer IMO. However, I watched about the Riley Fox case last night online (thanks to another poster who posted about her case). It is dispicable what happened in that case in regards to the interrogations and false arrest of her own father. Had they not focused and framed that father, IMO they may have been able to catch that baby girls killer. I also read a book called the innocent man.. again disgusting, the behavior of LE interrogations IMO.. So after just these two stories, I agree. LE would never question me without a lawyer if I was innocent and felt I was being singledout for a crime and they would never be allowed to interrogate one of my children without a lawyer either. Some of their tactics are quite disgusting IMO.. Now if they have PROOF and are trying to break someone that they KNOW did something.. maybe I'd feel different.. I'm sure it's a tough call, and they need to be tough..and with certain criminals it is well deserved.. I don't know, maybe that's why I'm not in LE LOL
I used to believe that innocent people didn't need lawyers too.

After I watched a few cases and the questioning that went on, I changed my mind.

My children know that if they are detained for any reason, they are to request an attorney. I know LE has a job to do, but an attorney isn't there to stop them from doing their job, just to make sure that your rights are protected.

Misty is basically just a kid herself. I don't like the idea of her being questioned over and over without an attorney.

:sad:

[CANDYKISSES]

ITA, just happened around here last week, all kinds of drugs and weapons so completely possible. I wonder how many of the the Bad people would have known Ron moved to a different trailer though. Could be Misty was running a home based business after hours, you just never know. JMO

What leads you to believe Misty was running a home based business and can you elaborate on what type of business you are referring to please?

:confused:

[Mandysmom]

Actually.. i thought the same thing. I also thought that the initial "tip" about her not being in the house was also a mb poster..not neccesarily from here..but from somewhere. Wonder if that tip was anonymous.

I thought I heard it was an anonymous tip also. If Misty was out partying, where are the people she was partying with?

In that small area, I can't see it happening without the whole town knowing.

I could be wrong though, they might just have clammed up.

[Texas48]

My hinky meter says shes right near that house:cursing: and my hinkey meter has been right about serveral things just ask Tia she knows. :w00t:"Hinky Meters" are a tool. It has been my experience to "trust" one's hinky meter.jmo

[Mandysmom]

Why would they have torn James Batchelor's home apart? What's up with searching the buildings out there twice? Has someone implicated him in this? :confused:

JMO
Maybe they're remembering how Couey had Jessica so close to home and they missed it, Candy.:sad:

[StickyBeak]

What leads you to believe Misty was running a home based business and can you elaborate on what type of business you are referring to please?

:confused:


I was replying to a earlier post with regard to LE, FBI, all kinds of enforcement doing a major drug or weapon bust in town without anyone aware and no media. The poster was thinking perhaps Ron new of some Bad people from his past or Ron may have been involved selling drugs himself. Could be a act of retaliation only Haleigh got in the way.
Just another possibility, or could it be that Misty was dealing out of the home after kids went to bed and Ron to work. Just spewing piffle scenarios. Ya never know. JMO

[emdragon]

Somebody call back and ask how long breaks are! lol and how many do you get? hehe Tell them you're weighing your options.

According to FL workers guides breaks must be 20 minutes or less and lunch at least 30 minutes.

[CANDYKISSES]

From what I understand, no one in the case, Ron, Misty or Crystal have retained a lawyer. That leads me to believe that none of them had anything to do with this. I do think it's odd that a stranger could come into a home in the middle of the night like that, but it has happened. IMO everyone is being too cooperative with LE for them to be involved. Just my opinion though. My thoughts and prayers go out to this family and all involved. How terribly sad!

My gut instinct tells me that Ron would have an attorney if he needed one. I too tend to believe that people who commit crimes don't sit around waiting for LE to accuse them prior to getting representation.

JMO tho.:sad:

[HI_CYCLE]

Actually.. i thought the same thing. I also thought that the initial "tip" about her not being in the house was also a mb poster..not neccesarily from here..but from somewhere. Wonder if that tip was anonymous. I wonder how many message board theories have been called in as tips. Hopefully none. Those kind of tips take up LE time and money. Many real tips may get missed or put on the back burners if so.

[StickyBeak]

Maybe they're remembering how Couey had Jessica so close to home and they missed it, Candy.:sad:

IIRC Jessica was found buried under the trailer after he kept her hidden in a closet. Hate to read that again.

[Mimi428]

thank you for the link..

Wow seven cadaver dogs and nine officers and Misty taken in for more questions. yep i think it's time for this young lady to get a lawyer.

SEVEN dogs?!

Wow, that's a lot of dogs. At least it will help LE to cover the most amount of area in good time, with that many dogs.

[Mandysmom]

The fact she is perpetuating the 'bombshell' Ron may be a police drug informant....started by a question asked by GERALDO!

Geraldo, people....!!! Geraldo. :thumbdown: :ohmy:
Who believes anything he says?
Still the media runs with the "story"

That ticks me off on every show I see it talked about.

These media types have no idea the danger they are putting this whole family in by these careless remarks.

None.Kathy, you took the words right out of my mouth.

They have run with that idiocy just as if it were fact. They have endangered these people by nothing more than speculation.

His daughter is missing and they are talking about him being an informant for LE.

Of course LE is not going to deny or confirm that. Why should they?

[CANDYKISSES]

Maybe they're remembering how Couey had Jessica so close to home and they missed it, Candy.:sad:

Oh dear, I hope not. :sad:

[kkmiausa]

Didn't scott peterson also claim the police advised him not to talk? Absurd, if he has nothing to hide he should be talking his head off in an all out effort to locate Haleigh. I'll say it again, something about all of this smells. Bad.
Until LE comes out and says Misty and Ron are ruled out and passed the lie detector then I will focus on it being someone else. Now I believe they are involved.:bored:

[JD1974]

My gut instinct tells me that Ron would have an attorney if he needed one. I too tend to believe that people who commit crimes don't sit around waiting for LE to accuse them prior to getting representation.

JMO tho.:sad:


I think most people who commit crimes wait until they are accused to get a lawyer. Because most people think they will get away with it.

[CANDYKISSES]

thank you for the link..

Wow seven cadaver dogs and nine officers and Misty taken in for more questions. yep i think it's time for this young lady to get a lawyer.

Yet, investigators are saying Thursday's search was not in response to leads received from the family or the public, but rather as a routine procedure that has helped in other missing child cases.
JMO

[kkmiausa]

Exactly. Very well said.\

IMO I don't think they are smart enough to get a lawyer. At this point they think they have us all fooled and the media is playing right into their hands. The man in black story a prime example. It was headline news Tuesday. I wanted to scream every time I heard it.

[CANDYKISSES]

I think most people who commit crimes wait until they are accused to get a lawyer. Because most people think they will get away with it.

If these were strangers or people Haleigh MIGHT have encountered somewhere say like the Carlie Bruccia case, then I would tend to agree.

But these are people closely involved with Haleigh on a daily basis for the most part IMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

I was replying to a earlier post with regard to LE, FBI, all kinds of enforcement doing a major drug or weapon bust in town without anyone aware and no media. The poster was thinking perhaps Ron new of some Bad people from his past or Ron may have been involved selling drugs himself. Could be a act of retaliation only Haleigh got in the way.
Just another possibility, or could it be that Misty was dealing out of the home after kids went to bed and Ron to work. Just spewing piffle scenarios. Ya never know. JMO

Do you remember what site the article was on about the big drug bust?

[CANDYKISSES]

hmmm wonder why they waited two weeks to bring the dogs out

I don't know as they state the group is not part of LE, so I would guess anything is possible. JMO tho.

[Texas48]

I thought I heard it was an anonymous tip also. If Misty was out partying, where are the people she was partying with?

In that small area, I can't see it happening without the whole town knowing.

I could be wrong though, they might just have clammed up.I watched Greta last night (half awake) she was talking to someone and said they had rec. tips that Misty was at a "Party House" and had left 2 people at the monile home w/the children. I am going to back and watch again to make sure that is what I heard.

[JD1974]

If these were strangers or people Haleigh MIGHT have encountered somewhere say like the Carlie Bruccia case, then I would tend to agree.

But these are people closely involved with Haleigh on a daily basis for the most part IMO.

Oh sorry I thought you were making a general statement about people who hire lawyers at the end of your comment.

[Tia]

hmmm wonder why they waited two weeks to bring the dogs out

I can't imagine. Unless they truly believed she was alive and found something that led the to believe otherwise?

[HI_CYCLE]

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IMO I don't think they are smart enough to get a lawyer. At this point they think they have us all fooled and the media is playing right into their hands. The man in black story a prime example. It was headline news Tuesday. I wanted to scream every time I heard it.
You mean someone like is in this photo on Misty`s cousin`s my space?

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=269248876&albumID=618342&imageID=11742591

[Texas48]

Well we know from the article and Ron's mom stating Ron and Misty are still together, which is unreal imo. I can't imagine the stress and pressure they are under, while trying to hold this *relationship* legal or otherwise, together.

I think Misty is going down.

jmoMe and thee 51.

[emdragon]

They've had dogs there already - I think they had dogs on the ground before 4 a.m.

I think they're wrapping this up. I think this is LE's last grand finale big push search before they feel like they've done all they can. I don't think they're close to anything, closer by one inch than they were when they were first called Feb. 10.

When I read that neighbor - Batchelor - say they've already searched twice, it seems like they can't think of anything else to do but search the very same spot, more meticulously.

There certainly is a chance that this major search will turn up real evidence - but if not, my guess is day after tomorrow they'll announce an end to a very active investigation.

They had sent dogs out the first day, this is the first time I have heard they have cadaver dogs working the area- that is a huge difference.

[Texas48]

That makes me think of poor little Caylee:sad: I hope to God this child doesnt end up this way.Me too breeze but I have this BAD feeling "hinky Meter" about little Haleigh. ALL we can do is Pray. jmo

[StickyBeak]

Do you remember what site the article was on about the big drug bust?

Sorry if I confused you, No Link or Article. Responding to a poster
MiMi, # 280 end of page 7 this thread.

[crymeariver2006]

I wonder how many message board theories have been called in as tips. Hopefully none. Those kind of tips take up LE time and money. Many real tips may get missed or put on the back burners if so.

Seven cadaver dogs take up LE time and money too.

Just sayin'.....IMO, I don't think they called them (the dogs) in on a whim, plus pick up Misty again for questioning. Sounds like more info than message board fodder.

But that's just me.

[5boxersmom]

Has anything more been said about the abandon house they took Crystal to yesterday? Could this be a "party house"? Maybe where Misty was? But then again why would they take Crystal there?

imo

[crymeariver2006]

IF someone was partying with Misty i would hope they would have come forward and report what time she was at their house and all that stuff ......

If they even remember partying with Misty....

:wink:

[Texas48]

If they even remember partying with Misty....

:wink:From what I understood there is a place in area that is called "Party House". Tip said Misty went and left 2 people at the house w/the kids. Have to watch it again. jmo

[caphill]

hmmm wonder why they waited two weeks to bring the dogs out


There have been dogs out since the moment Haleigh was reported missing. The first responding LE brought dogs to the trailer.

I keep thinking about the SO the LE arrested for violation of his curfew. LE said they had no link to him and Haleigh. That doesn't mean he is in the clear. He lived within a mile of the Cummings.

Bringing Misty in time and time again for questions doesn't seem hinky to me. She was the last to see Haleigh and she was the caregiver for some months. She would know more about Haleigh's clothes, toys etc than anyone else in case anything clothing etc was found in the searches.

All the rumors put out about her being away from the trailer needs to investigated. Crystal said she had been told Misty was out partying that night. Crystal needs to tell LE who told her that. If someone gave her that info, that person needs to be interrogated and determined if this true. Whether true or not, Misty is put in the position of having to be questioned about the rumors.

[Mimi428]

If they even remember partying with Misty....

:wink:

True. Sad, but true.

JMO

[emdragon]

There have been dogs out since the moment Haleigh was reported missing. The first responding LE brought dogs to the trailer.

I keep thinking about the SO the LE arrested for violation of his curfew. LE said they had no link to him and Haleigh. That doesn't mean he is in the clear. He lived within a mile of the Cummings.

Bringing Misty in time and time again for questions doesn't seem hinky to me. She was the last to see Haleigh and she was the caregiver for some months. She would know more about Haleigh's clothes, toys etc than anyone else in case anything clothing etc was found in the searches.

All the rumors put out about her being away from the trailer needs to investigated. Crystal said she had been told Misty was out partying that night. Crystal needs to tell LE who told her that. If someone gave her that info, that person needs to be interrogated and determined if this true. Whether true or not, Misty is put in the position of having to be questioned about the rumors.

You know LE said day one they were treating Misti as a minor and that meant that questioning her would be done differently. I believe that is why she is being re-interviewed over and over- that is how you deal with a Minor who is a witness.

I just don't see Misti not breaking if LE was really putting the screws to her.

[Mimi428]

Has anything more been said about the abandon house they took Crystal to yesterday? Could this be a "party house"? Maybe where Misty was? But then again why would they take Crystal there?

imo

They took Crystal to an abandoned house yesterday?

I missed that story completely. I thought they had taken her to a little shack, but that it was very early on.

[Ice Cycle]

Just a though:
That they keep calling them or her back in there because they can and their are some advantages to having a Attorney.
Also I find it odd that all supposedly having taking LDT but yet none of them have been cleared and it is known they can have results almost immediately.
I believe at least one of the reasons for that is simply because they don't have to. Though it could be that they suspect one of them and just don't want to let them or anyone else know it hoping they will slip up and it would look to obvious if they cleared all but one.

[kitty1182]

I keep getting a feeling this will be kinda like Susan Smith..
LE will have a PC and announce the arrests and we will be stunned..
IMO

[Peaches]

By "home based business", you mean Avon?

:laugh:

J/K



Tupperware...................:thumbsup:

[Mimi428]

I keep getting a feeling this will be kinda like Susan Smith..
LE will have a PC and announce the arrests and we will be stunned..
IMO

I feel that way too, about half the time. The other half of the time, I go in all sorts of different directions. Could it be like this? How about like that? What if...?

JMO

[Rick777]

One way to look at it is...

If Misty knows Haleigh is dead, she's going to hold out at all costs to not be in trouble.

If Misty thinks Haleigh is alive, she would tell the LE "I effed up, I left the house, I left these people with Haleigh, and we need to find her!"

[CANDYKISSES]

Sorry if I confused you, No Link or Article. Responding to a poster
MiMi, # 280 end of page 7 this thread.

Now that I read back, I see Mimi was posting information about Texas and what could happen and it grew from there. Thanks for the clarification. So in other words, we have no reason to believe there is a big drug ring or bust going on and that Misty would be selling from the home while Ron works and TAKING CARE OF HIS KIDS IN THE HOME TOO, right?

Just people speculating about what they've seen here or there.....:wink:

JMO

[RiverWalk]

I missed it too. Anyone have a link?

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/845635/haleigh_s_family_speaks

[lonetraveler]

From what I understood there is a place in area that is called "Party House". Tip said Misty went and left 2 people at the house w/the kids. Have to watch it again. jmo

---
Does "Party House" mean the same thing as "Crack House"? I know in this are, both terms are used for the same thing.

[kkmiausa]

You mean someone like is in this photo on Misty`s cousin`s my space?

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=269248876&albumID=618342&imageID=11742591

He was "excluded" by police. They said he was cleared. One of the few statements they have made.

[Motomom]

Now that I read back, I see Mimi was posting information about Texas and what could happen and it grew from there. Thanks for the clarification. So in other words, we have no reason to believe there is a big drug ring or bust going on and that Misty would be selling from the home while Ron works and TAKING CARE OF HIS KIDS IN THE HOME TOO, right?

Just people speculating about what they've seen here or there.....:wink:

JMO

Exactly Candy!! however it does/can happen that way. no real indication that is going on here though imo.

[5boxersmom]

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/845635/haleigh_s_family_speaks

TY my friend. I knew I had saw it I couldn't find it. It wasn't yesterday it was 3 days ago. Sorry if I confused anyone by saying yesterday.

imo

[RiverWalk]

TY my friend. I knew I had saw it I couldn't find it. It wasn't yesterday it was 3 days ago. Sorry if I confused anyone by saying yesterday.

imo

YW.

Also that "tip" on Greta's show last night was Crystal's mother calling on the phone. She was reporting on RUMORS she had heard 2nd and 3rd hand about a party house. She had no direct knowledge ... just heard it around the tent city.

moo

[RiverWalk]

Thanks!

Its hard for me to imagine what the value of Crystal going with them to search an abandoned house would be.

IA, but nothing about this case makes sense with this cast of "characters" and that includes the horrible reporting by the press.

[desmom]

Sorry if this is a duplicate post. I have been lurking more than posting on this case.

Detectives Want DNA from Haleigh's Mother
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

[Mandysmom]

I watched Greta last night (half awake) she was talking to someone and said they had rec. tips that Misty was at a "Party House" and had left 2 people at the monile home w/the children. I am going to back and watch again to make sure that is what I heard.

Thanks Texas. I didn't watch Greta last night. I remembered hearing last week that it was an anonymous tip which could have been anybody.

Even if these "tips" say that Misty was at a party house, where are the others who were there?

I wonder if they have questioned all of the people who were supposedly there and if they know the location.

[StickyBeak]

Now that I read back, I see Mimi was posting information about Texas and what could happen and it grew from there. Thanks for the clarification. So in other words, we have no reason to believe there is a big drug ring or bust going on and that Misty would be selling from the home while Ron works and TAKING CARE OF HIS KIDS IN THE HOME TOO, right?

Just people speculating about what they've seen here or there.....:wink:

JMO


No Rumors here, all speculation, Phew JMO

[Rick777]

I was wondering why NG completely left this case alone last night. Not even a blurb, wonder why? Also curious to see if she has anything on tonight.

ETA <bolding mind>


Greta finds a little space for it at the end of her show. I don't know why the media is backing off. LE has kept everything close to the vest with no results. Maybe it's time they release everything and let the media and public help find Haleigh.

[StickyBeak]

Sorry if this is a duplicate post. I have been lurking more than posting on this case.

Detectives Want DNA from Haleigh's Mother
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

Interesting, they are trying to track her down after going to wrong doctor office. I am getting that horrible feeling, JMO

[Mandysmom]

You know LE said day one they were treating Misti as a minor and that meant that questioning her would be done differently. I believe that is why she is being re-interviewed over and over- that is how you deal with a Minor who is a witness.

I just don't see Misti not breaking if LE was really putting the screws to her.

When I think of questioning as a minor, I think of Michael Crowe. That wasn't a gentle questioning and they were on the wrong track.

I don't know what to think about this right now. I am just not sure Misty knows any more than she's saying, but I'm not sure she doesn't.

That doesn't even sound right to me. lol

[Motomom]

YW.

Also that "tip" on Greta's show last night was Crystal's mother calling on the phone. She was reporting on RUMORS she had heard 2nd and 3rd hand about a party house. She had no direct knowledge ... just heard it around the tent city.

moo

Hmmmm interesting IMO

[Armchairdet]

Interesting, they are trying to track her down after going to wrong doctor office. I am getting that horrible feeling, JMO


Me too. :ohmy:

[Mandysmom]

I keep getting a feeling this will be kinda like Susan Smith..
LE will have a PC and announce the arrests and we will be stunned..
IMO
I never believed her from the very first time I saw her and felt guilty because I didn't. :laugh:

When they announced that she had been arrested, I wasn't surprised, but I was just sickened at what she had done to those babies.

:sad:

[5boxersmom]

Interesting, they are trying to track her down after going to wrong doctor office. I am getting that horrible feeling, JMO

Me too. Why couldn't they just wait for her to get back to the area? Why track her down? Something is up. Wonder what it is?

imo

[n/t]

Sorry if this is a duplicate post. I have been lurking more than posting on this case.

Detectives Want DNA from Haleigh's Mother
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

Uh oh....:ohmy:

Sounds like they're closing in on who may responsible.:crying:

[playnice]

Sorry if this is a duplicate post. I have been lurking more than posting on this case.

Detectives Want DNA from Haleigh's Mother
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

What does this say? ON junky puter at work and tried to open it twice and had to restart puter both times.

[Motomom]

Interesting, they are trying to track her down after going to wrong doctor office. I am getting that horrible feeling, JMO

I wonder if they took everyone elses DNA already? It could be nothing..or a big something IMO. Wonder why they were at the wrong doctors office? That's interesting..where was Crystal? Interesting that they went to the doctors office to get her, why not wait until she got back?? :scared:

[Rick777]

Would it not have been the norm to get DNA and fingerprints from Mom, Dad, and Girlfriend the first or second day Haleigh went missing????

[playnice]

It says Crystal has been asked to submit a DNA test, no indication which type, or exactly why, and that she's lost and they're trying to find her because she went to the wrong office.

Wow. Lost or disappeared?

[IlliniFan]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3


SATSUMA, FL -- Investigators want a DNA sample from Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh Cummings, while cadaver dogs scour the woods and fields around the girl's home for any signs of the missing girl.

The five-year-old has been missing since she went to bed on the night of February 9th.

Late Thursday afternoon, detectives came looking for Sheffield, who had apparently gone to the doctor.

The detectives are trying to track her down after going to the wrong office. Investigators would not comment on what type of DNA sample they need, or why.

`snipped`

here is the part of the article that refers to Crystal

[n/t]

Would it not have been the norm to get DNA and fingerprints from Mom, Dad, and Girlfriend the first or second day Haleigh went missing????

Not really unless they suspected something.

[RiverWalk]

Would it not have been the norm to get DNA and fingerprints from Mom, Dad, and Girlfriend the first or second day Haleigh went missing????

I would certainly think so. They need to be able to rule in or rule out any evidence that has come back (if it's come back) from any FBI lab results. Same thing with finger prints.

[Rick777]

Maybe not the first or second day, but I would have thought before now.

I still think this is a part of them wrapping this up. Do two days intense ground search, collect all DNA samples we might need to store for the future, wrap it up.


when you see wrap it up, you mean make an arrest, or just put the case on the back burner and assign two guys to the case????

[StickyBeak]

I wonder if they took everyone elses DNA already? It could be nothing..or a big something IMO. Wonder why they were at the wrong doctors office? That's interesting..where was Crystal? Interesting that they went to the doctors office to get her, why not wait until she got back?? :scared:

ITA, would LE normally just show up at your home? Then to track her down to a doctor appt. As you say, could be nothing, could be something. Did they find something in the woods or home possibly linking her? Yegads,

[n/t]

Maybe not the first or second day, but I would have thought before now.

I still think this is a part of them wrapping this up. Do two days intense ground search, collect all DNA samples we might need to store for the future, wrap it up.

So why didn't they say collect DNA from all family members? Why single out Crystal and this ordeal about looking for her at the wrong doctor's office?

You may be right but my hinky meter tells me they know something. They're very good on the way they word things without leaking anything.

[emdragon]

Uh oh....:ohmy:

Sounds like they're closing in on who may responsible.:crying:

That or they are closing in on Haley and maternal DNA is the best identifier.:sad:

I guess right now I'd rather believe they found DNA in the trailer that shouldn't have been there. If Crystal were involved I think Haleigh would still be alive.

[playnice]

So why didn't they say collect DNA from all family members? Why single out Crystal and this ordeal about looking for her at the wrong doctor's office?

You may be right but my hinky meter tells me they know something. They're very good on the way they word things without leaking anything.

Crystals mom creeps me out.
Maybe they are involved and thats why Crystal has tried to point suspicion in the media toward Ron.

[Motomom]

Would it not have been the norm to get DNA and fingerprints from Mom, Dad, and Girlfriend the first or second day Haleigh went missing????

That's what I question Rick and I wonder if they. They must have, or why would they be just asking for Crystals

[playnice]

So why didn't they say collect DNA from all family members? Why single out Crystal and this ordeal about looking for her at the wrong doctor's office?

You may be right but my hinky meter tells me they know something. They're very good on the way they word things without leaking anything.

Weird them going after her for a doctor visit. Wouldnt they just ask her to come in and give DNA?

[Armchairdet]

Weird them going after her for a doctor visit. Wouldnt they just ask her to come in and give DNA?

Also strange that tidbit made it to the media before they found her. IMO

[RiverWalk]

Don't forget they are inexperienced LE from Satsuma/Palatka, FL.

True, but the FBI is involved. There is DNA all over that trailer where Haleigh lived with her dad, Misty and little brother. All of their DNA would be required to do comparisons for an "unknown" DNA. Same thing for anyone that visited there that is known by LE.

Crystal's would be needed to get Haleigh's DNA = mitochondrial DNA, but they could get it from her hairbrush, toothbrush, etc.

[101Spots]

I used to believe that innocent people didn't need lawyers too.

After I watched a few cases and the questioning that went on, I changed my mind.

My children know that if they are detained for any reason, they are to request an attorney. I know LE has a job to do, but an attorney isn't there to stop them from doing their job, just to make sure that your rights are protected.

Misty is basically just a kid herself. I don't like the idea of her being questioned over and over without an attorney.

:sad:

Why is she being questioned without a parent if she's underage? Or is the Magic Age 16 in Florida? On TV it's usually 18, or so I recall.....

[Mandysmom]

Why is she being questioned without a parent if she's underage? Or is the Magic Age 16 in Florida? On TV it's usually 18, or so I recall.....

I've wondered about that too, unless the parents said it was okay, which I would never do.

They might just be trusting LE to do the right thing and they might be.

I hate being so suspicious. lol

[kitty1182]

Sounds like they need it immediately.

Sure does...

[Tia]

Bet they have found Haleigh and need to confirm.


Thats what I think.

Poor Haleigh.

[crymeariver2006]

Why do you think they need it immediately?

They asked her to submit, she went to do it and then got all lost.

Interestingly, they already HAVE her DNA, and Ron's, from the paternity tests when Ron sued for custody. It's right there, in the court papers so maybe that's why they haven't needed Ron's.

They probably wouldn't already have Chrystal's MtDNA, just the regular paternity test DNA.

If they have her DNA, they don't need her MtDNA. MtDNA cannot be narrowed down to match one particular person, just female family members.

I would have thought obtaining DNA from both father and mother would have been SOP. And I thought the FBI had been advising Putnam County all along.

Sounds like someone in the Sheffield camp's trying to make news when there's no there there.

JMO

ETA: Let me add that it is *possible* that a hair or hairs have been found that have no root, in which case they would need the MtDNA from Crystal to see if it is indeed Haleigh's. But I still say, DNA (including a hair sample) should have been SOP on Day 1.

[emdragon]

I've wondered about that too, unless the parents said it was okay, which I would never do.

They might just be trusting LE to do the right thing and they might be.

I hate being so suspicious. lol

I'm looking for information on that but I know here unless the minor is a suspect LE can legally speak to them without a parent. Unless the child's parent says they can not.

[KatyDid]

Sounds like they need it immediately.

I agree, that would indicate there was some urgency to needing her (crystal) dna.

[kitty1182]

I wonder if Misty is still at the Sheriff's office..

[KatyDid]

I wonder if Misty is still at the Sheriff's office..

Good question. I was wondering the same thing.

[Peaches]

Weird them going after her for a doctor visit. Wouldnt they just ask her to come in and give DNA?


Why the urgency to have this DNA...............???

If they just want to identify HaLeigh............could they just use something of hers............her toothbrush/etc..............or Ron?????I hope this is not what they are trying to do.

This is confusing to me.

[Deb7]

Yes it seems if Misty was out parting then someone would of came forward by now saying she was with them. UNLESS they were part of this crime and laying low. OR- Maybe they have told LE and we just do not know yet.

Without the Sunshine Law in effect there just is not a lot we know about here as we did from the start in the Casey case.

It could be that if anyone did see her that they may not want to let anyone know because their activities may be illegal, or they may not be of age, etc...

[Motomom]

Crystals mom creeps me out.
Maybe they are involved and thats why Crystal has tried to point suspicion in the media toward Ron.

I'm with you playnice..though I might not use the word creeps..but jsut the same. something has always irked me about her, namely her lack of emotion. She over talks the daughter, inserting all of the bad things about ron.. i agree with you.. The paternal grandmother has shown so much emotion, completely opposite crystals mom IMO and I believe that is because the paternal gm is obviously much more involved in the childrens life.

[Motomom]

Sadly, i have to agree with you! :(

Would she be unrecognizable at this point? It's only been 3 weeks.

[Santa'sMom]

After Trenton Duckett had been missing for awhile they asked for DNA samples. This may be something similar. Crossing of T's and dotting of I's. As for the experience/inexperience of the local LEO, the FBI has been there since shortly after Haleigh was reported missing. I think they have more than a little experience.

[emdragon]

So far this is what I have found..

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2000/rpt/olr/htm/2000-r-0282.htm

SUMMARY

New York does not prohibit police from interrogating 16, 17 or 18 year olds unless their parent or guardian is present. It does provide certain protections for children under 16 years of age who are taken onto custody. We describe these protections below.

We did not find any states that prohibit the interrogation of 18 year olds unless a parent or guardian was present. But we found two states with laws that prohibit police from interrogating 16 or 17 year olds before they have had the chance to consult with a parent or guardian (Alabama and Arkansas). And we found six states with laws requiring in one way or another that a parent or guardian be present before police can interrogate a 16 or 17 year old (Colorado, Hawaii, Missouri, Maine, North Carolina, and North Dakota).

[Mandysmom]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.
The way I read the link Rachel was that she had gone to the doctor, they went to look for her and they went to the wrong office.

I might be confused though.

[n/t]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.

Where are you getting that they sent her on an errand? She went to the doctor and she wasn't at the office they thought she was supposed to be at.

To me, it sounds like LE went to the wrong office. I'm confused

[RiverWalk]

Sounds to me as if some sort of forensics has come back and this has given LE some new information. IMO

It *could* be but then I remembered Crystal has never been in the trailer where Haleigh lived with her dad.

[emdragon]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.

They didn't send her on an errand. They went to get her to obtain the DNA and she was not there she was at the Doctors- LE went to the wrong Doctor's office when they went to find her.

[Tia]

Where are you getting that they sent her on an errand? She went to the doctor and she wasn't at the office they thought she was supposed to be at.

To me, it sounds like LE went to the wrong office. I'm confused

Thats how I read it n/t, that LE went to the wrong office.

[KatyDid]

The way I read the link Rachel was that she had gone to the doctor, they went to look for her and they went to the wrong office.

I might be confused though.

That is how it read to me too.

[KKKKKKatie]

The way I read the link Rachel was that she had gone to the doctor, they went to look for her and they went to the wrong office.

I might be confused though.

that is how I read it also :confused:

[crymeariver2006]

It *could* be but then I remembered Crystal has never been in the trailer where Haleigh lived with her dad.

So she said.......

[Motomom]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.

I have to reread the article I think because I took it to mean that they went to get her DNA and she had went to the doctors, so they went to the doctors but it was the wrong office.. I'm confused now..

[KKKKKKatie]

It *could* be but then I remembered Crystal has never been in the trailer where Haleigh lived with her dad.


she said that she had never been in the house on one of her TV interviews.

IMO...no link

[Peaches]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.



OH............is that what happened. They sent her. I thought she had just gone to the doctor for an appointment...........

Today, I guess I just am not taking in what I am reading. I thought that they went to get her from her very own dr appt.

Now I understand. They sent her to the doctor's office but she got lost. They are trying to find her.

I feel certain that she has a cell phone................moo

Please everyone keep posting!

I am praying that this little girl is indeed alive!

Also, if someone hurt her, I am praying that it was NOT someone she loved and trusted!

[RiverWalk]

So she said.......

True. So she said.

[101Spots]

So far this is what I have found..

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2000/rpt/olr/htm/2000-r-0282.htm

Thank you for looking this up.

Apparently TV shows lie. Imagine that.

[Elle]

Peaches it's much harder to ID someone by hairbrush or toothbrush DNA. You do that if you have no other way to do it.

Interesting again, they already HAVE Haleigh's DNA on file from the paternity suit, but they wouldn't have Crystal's MtDNA.

That's my guess about this.

If there was any rush to do this, they would have escorted her to the lab, not sent her on an errand to get lost. Again, MOO.

I am not reading where it is stated that she was sent to the doctor. I understood it to mean they went to find her to obtain DNA and she apparently had gone to the doctors.
I would think she has a cell phone. Strange she cannot (as of the time the article was written) be located.
imo

[crymeariver2006]

In the very beginning on one of the shows the question of Misty's age was brought up as to if LE could question her same as an adult and an attorney from Fl said no problem.

Anyone know if they have read her or any of the others their Miranda Rights?


I hope they were advised that they were free to leave at any time, they were not required to answer questions and they could have an attorney present......

'Cause if one of them is eventually arrested and charged in this crime and they didn't advise them.....holy cow! The inept Jose Baez could get this thrown out without batting an eye....

[Mandysmom]

that is how I read it also :confused:

Thank goodness y'all are seeing the same thing I am. I thought I was all turned around for a minute.

Which wouldn't be much of a stretch for me.

[crymeariver2006]

I have to reread the article I think because I took it to mean that they went to get her DNA and she had went to the doctors, so they went to the doctors but it was the wrong office.. I'm confused now..

I think you and I read it the same way.

They wouldn't send her to a doctor to get DNA. The FBI is quite capable of obtaining swabs and samples.

If they sent her to a doctor, who's there from LE to control the sample and take custody of it?

[Larkin]

I think you and I read it the same way.

They wouldn't send her to a doctor to get DNA. The FBI is quite capable of obtaining swabs and samples.

If they sent her to a doctor, who's there from LE to control the sample and take custody of it?

Good point...chain of custody.

[Peaches]

I think you and I read it the same way.

They wouldn't send her to a doctor to get DNA. The FBI is quite capable of obtaining swabs and samples.

If they sent her to a doctor, who's there from LE to control the sample and take custody of it?



Me too..............I took the article to mean the same many on here and the same as you 2.

BUT.............after rereading it..........it is not very clear.............just like this case.

[Texas48]

Bet they have found Haleigh and need to confirm.I PRAY you are wrong..believe you are right. My heart hurts.

[caphill]

They didn't send her on an errand. They went to get her to obtain the DNA and she was not there she was at the Doctors- LE went to the wrong Doctor's office when they went to find her.


I'm confused also. Have the LE found her yet. I had seen her on her cell, so I know she has one.Why wouldn't LE call her on her cell and make arrangements for the DNA sample.

Maybe it is as simple as the LE directed her to a doctors office and she never showed up. If that were the case, then why not call her to see where is she. Did I read report right that the LE actually went to the doctors office. Maybe she just dropped off the radar for a little while.

I don't get too excited about the initial news reports because of the history of many of them being inaccurate. This one is rather strange though. I would agree with other posters that LE would have likely already taken DNA samples from the parents, Haleigh and likely Misty too.

[forensicfan]

It could be that if anyone did see her that they may not want to let anyone know because their activities may be illegal, or they may not be of age, etc...

Good point! I'm wondering myself why the doctor visit. Did they make her go? Do we know it is for DNA? Could it maybe be for a drug test?

Then again, they could have taken one through a hair sample but I think maybe if they want to determine if pot is currently in her system and if so, what amount, a hair sample may not show that.

Maybe they believe the person who said she was not home or are still trying to determine the validity of that statement.

I don't know what to think anymore! I still don't think she, Ron or Crystal had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance but I'm really confused as to how someone got in without leaving evidence of forced entry if they are so adamantly certain that they locked the doors.

[Texas48]

Crystals mom creeps me out.
Maybe they are involved and thats why Crystal has tried to point suspicion in the media toward Ron.IMO..if Crystal wanted to "point suspicion" WHY did she inform media that Haleigh loved Misty and how good Misty was to the kids? Crystal certainly DID NOT have to say anything nice about Misty.

[forensicfan]

I am not reading where it is stated that she was sent to the doctor. I understood it to mean they went to find her to obtain DNA and she apparently had gone to the doctors.
I would think she has a cell phone. Strange she cannot (as of the time the article was written) be located.
imo

:blushing: I did it again! I should have read previous posts before posting! I thought she was sent to the doctors. Never mind my previous post. :blushing:

[IlliniFan]

I'm assuming the information regarding Crystal and the DNA must be some sort of leak. I doubt LE would be telling the media this, when they have basically said nothing prior to this....

[Texas48]

Don't forget they are inexperienced LE from Satsuma/Palatka, FL.I had not heard that LE is inexperienced. FBI is on scene and I heard LE in Satsuma is getting assist from another county as well. I believe LE will do their job. jmo

[Speedy30]

----------------------

Yep...........Crystal did say that. But in another interview with Crystal's mother, she said that Crystal had been in the trailor. I remember that very well. jmo

Maybe.... she was in the trailer before and does not want her fiance or Misty to know, maybe her and Ron were sometimes messing around, it happens.

jmo

[odyssey]

Has it been reported at any time how Ron and Crystal transfer custody on her weekends? Do they meet somewhere in the middle or are the kids picked up by Crystal or dropped off by Ron?

I heard in interviews both Crystal and her mother stating Crystal had never been in the trailer. Never heard her mom stating she had.



moo

[Texas48]

It might be because she's being questioned as a witness, rather than a suspect. I don't think children who are questioned as witnesses have to have any particular support. Thought Misty was 17?

[caphill]

Just reported on HLN that Crystal is missing. I hope I am quoting correctly. LE asked for a DNA and she said she had a Dr. appointment and could do at that time.

[Texas48]

Why do you think they need it immediately?

They asked her to submit, she went to do it and then got all lost.

Interestingly, they already HAVE her DNA, and Ron's, from the paternity tests when Ron sued for custody. It's right there, in the court papers so maybe that's why they haven't needed Ron's.

They probably wouldn't already have Chrystal's MtDNA, just the regular paternity test DNA. I thought Crystal went to a doctor's visit..LE went to look for her and LE got lost. I am confused once again.

[Motomom]

The doctors thing is confusing me still. Crystal is reported to live about 100 miles away from Ron. Wouldn't her doctors be closer to her home, than Rons? I mean, we don't know what doctors office she went too but if LE went to the wrong office, or did Crystal say she was going to be at one office and when they went there, she wasn't at that office? I guess I'll have to wait until more comes out.

[Texas48]

If they have her DNA, they don't need her MtDNA. MtDNA cannot be narrowed down to match one particular person, just female family members.

I would have thought obtaining DNA from both father and mother would have been SOP. And I thought the FBI had been advising Putnam County all along.

Sounds like someone in the Sheffield camp's trying to make news when there's no there there.

JMO

ETA: Let me add that it is *possible* that a hair or hairs have been found that have no root, in which case they would need the MtDNA from Crystal to see if it is indeed Haleigh's. But I still say, DNA (including a hair sample) should have been SOP on Day 1.You are so smart cry..and usually right w/your thought/opinions..which is JMO..lol

[caphill]

Just to clarify- they reported that Crystal is missing?


Yes. That was what was reported

[IlliniFan]

Is this news? LE is now back inside the trailer.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3



Thanks, interesting.....

[StickyBeak]

Just to clarify- they reported that Crystal is missing?


The article states the Mother and Father watched as searchers entered the home,

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

Guess they found Crystal

SATSUMA, FL -- Investigators are back in the home where Haleigh Cummings was last seen. Her mother and father were watching as vehicles and search crews came back to the house.

[IlliniFan]

I wonder if HLN has the story all wrong...hmm

[KKKKKKatie]

Just to clarify- they reported that Crystal is missing?

that is what I just heard on HLN

[crymeariver2006]

Is this news? LE is now back inside the trailer.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

I believe it's new.

The article also states that "her mother and father" were watching when LE went back in.

What time did they go in the house and what time did they want Crystal's DNA?

[Peaches]

yeah well when you figure it out can you explain it all to me really slow because i'm so confused it's unreal.


Me too................this is such a sad case.............no wonder it is leaving us all confused.

First of all, as parents, we can not see anyone who is a parent doing anything to hurt their child...............

Maybe if Crystal took HaLeigh or if she had it done..............HaLeigh is alive!

Hopeing HaLeigh is found soon and alive!

[caphill]

They still reporting on this right now. The report is that she was told the LE needed a DNA sample and she said "if they come tell them I have a Dr. appointment and she immediately left.

They are using words like "she is on the run."

[emdragon]

The link about them searching inside the trailer again states that Haleighs mother and father were watching.

So sounds like they found Crystal and I would think got their DNA sample.

[KKKKKKatie]

The article states the Mother and Father watched as searchers entered the home,

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132277&catid=3

Guess they found Crystal

SATSUMA, FL -- Investigators are back in the home where Haleigh Cummings was last seen. Her mother and father were watching as vehicles and search crews came back to the house.

not what is being reported form outside the house.

[KatyDid]

Just to clarify- they reported that Crystal is missing?

That is what Mike said on HLN. He is covering it now on his show. Now saying there is no sense of urgency. saying le said they will see her when they see her.

TH's saying something is up. Saying suspicious Crystal would go to doctor office instead of helping with dna in search for her daughter.

Hmmm...lots of speculation going on by TH's.

[Texas48]

Would she be unrecognizable at this point? It's only been 3 weeks.My quess is YES.

[Speedy30]

Yeah that's what i was thinking

(( hey i love your name,..it's the name of my new purse )) :)

Yeah, something is amiss, lol.

And I just got my new speedy today actually! congrats, my fav too!

[Peaches]

Crystal Sheffield is missing now?

She was asked for her DNA and told them she had a doctor appt.... and then she didnt come back??!?!?

what in the world is going on?

Just heard it on HLN


Is Crystal's BF mising too?

Where is Chloe?

Anyone know?

[StickyBeak]

no no no it was AFTER that they came and asked for DNA and she left.


With Apology, I am on a roll today, did not notice the time of the article. So she has gone missing according to HLN. So she was with Ron earlier when the searches started? Interesting, I wonder if the doctors appt. was local with the little ButterBean or for herself.

[RiverWalk]

The link about them searching inside the trailer again states that Haleighs mother and father were watching.

So sounds like they found Crystal and I would think got their DNA sample.

HLN is reporting LIVE from the scene and NO Crystal to be seen.

[Texas48]

The way I read the link Rachel was that she had gone to the doctor, they went to look for her and they went to the wrong office.

I might be confused though.I KNOW I am usually confused Mandy but your post is what I thought as well. :confused:

[KatyDid]

Mike on HLN still reporting Crystal missing. I wonder how long it's been since she went to the doctor. :scared:

[happy2bme]

HLN is reporting LIVE from the scene and NO Crystal to be seen.

HLN made it sound as if she took off.

[crymeariver2006]

HLN is reporting LIVE from the scene and NO Crystal to be seen.

I'm calling KidFinders!

Maybe they'll have better luck finding an adult. :wink:

[RiverWalk]

--------------------------

Crystal said "If they come?" If who comes? confused here

LE. She knew they were coming, but left for a doctor's appointment.

[RiverWalk]

I'm calling KidFinders!

Maybe they'll have better luck finding an adult. :wink:

LOL. No please don't. lol.

[IlliniFan]

Cadaver dogs and DNA.... this is not looking good :(

JMO

Misty being questioned ...again...today, too...A lot of activity!

[5boxersmom]

I'm calling KidFinders!

Maybe they'll have better luck finding an adult. :wink:

:biggrin:

Maybe she went to get Haleigh a put an end to all of this. I hope and wish.

imo

[Texas48]

Where are you getting that they sent her on an errand? She went to the doctor and she wasn't at the office they thought she was supposed to be at.

To me, it sounds like LE went to the wrong office. I'm confused OMG..now there are several of us CONFUSED. We are in big trouble n/t.

[Leanne Weich]

...sorry, I don't remember the poster who stated this theory. But she said that the area is full of septic tanks.... so easy to throw a body down one.

My personal theory is that Misty is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, this could be where she hid her. Either in a septic tank or in the water close by. Remember how close to home Caylee was? I believe that Haleigh is as well.

Cadaver dogs should be able to pick this scent up.... weren't they only using tracking dogs before?

I do not believe in a mysterious man in black took her theory at all. I also believe that Misty has a strong motive to have done this.

If Haleigh was killed at home and her body not left in the home for approximately 2 hours, it is unlikely a cadaver dog will pick up her scent. Of course, if they find a location where her body has been dumped, the dog will pick it up.

[crymeariver2006]

LE. She knew they were coming, but left for a doctor's appointment.

That's what I don't understand.

Would she get advance warning that they needed the sample? Would her family get advance warning that they needed Crystal for a sample? Would LE tell anyone what they needed a person for?

This is not making sense.

[emdragon]

Em they searched the trailer two hours before asking for the DNA....

thanks I was just going by the news article and searching the trailer was added after the DNA stuff.

Chalk it up to the media.

But Crystal not thinking it was important enough to wait and give her DNA bothers me. I guess she could just want to put off the inevitable if she believes the DNA is to ID Haleigh..but still..... very odd.

[RiverWalk]

HLN made it sound as if she took off.

Yep. T.J. Hart (sp?) was reporting LIVE that she just took off and hasn't been found. I wonder if she went all the way back to Baker County to the doctor?

[crymeariver2006]

:biggrin:

Maybe she went to get Haleigh a put an end to all of this. I hope and wish.

imo

Wouldn't that be something!

[caphill]

Is Crystal's BF mising too?

Where is Chloe?

Anyone know?


Is ther anyone on the thread that is from the Fla area to hear what is being reported locally.

The HLN report was she took off in her car after being told the LE were coming to get a DNA sample. It was reported she said to tell them she had a Dr appointment and left immediately.

She has a cell phone. Why can't she be located by answering her phone unless she has gone on the lam.

[RiverWalk]

That's what I don't understand.

Would she get advance warning that they needed the sample? Would her family get advance warning that they needed Crystal for a sample? Would LE tell anyone what they needed a person for?

This is not making sense.

The report didn't say how she knew about the DNA sample being needed, but she said "If they need me I'll be at a doctor's appointment". LE tried to find her, but couldn't.

ETA: Wasn't she in the hospital right at the first of this case?

[CANDYKISSES]

Wow, I can't help but notice Crystal is keeping HER Dr.s appt. when she wasn't so hot about Haleigh's appointments. :confused:

Yeah, interesting isn't it....:bored:

[Peaches]

This is so not a funny matter..but i just spewed pop all over my monitor!! Get here fast to help me clean up!!:tonguewag:


See you are from the north..............saying "pop"..............

Do you think Crystal took BF and Chloe?

[psbperu]

Is ther anyone on the thread that is from the Fla area to hear what is being reported locally.

The HLN report was she took off in her car after being told the LE were coming to get a DNA sample. It was reported she said to tell them she had a Dr appointment and left immediately.

She has a cell phone. Why can't she be located by answering her phone unless she has gone on the lam.



Certainly strange that she wouldn't re-schedule her Dr.'s appt. & be available for the DNA sample. Doesn't sound good to me.

[Texas48]

I'm confused too, because it's written confusingly. Here, from FirstCoast News is the quote:

" Investigators want a DNA sample from Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh Cummings, while cadaver dogs scour the woods and fields around the girl's home for any signs of the missing girl.

The five-year-old has been missing since she went to bed on the night of February 9th.

Late Thursday afternoon, detectives came looking for Sheffield, who had apparently gone to the doctor.

The detectives are trying to track her down after going to the wrong office. Investigators would not comment on what type of DNA sample they need, or why."


I take that to mean she was sent to give DNA, and then didn't arrive at the right place and now they don't know where she is.

But it could mean almost anything, including she was at the doctor for some completely unrelated thing and they went to the wrong place. ?? I read it as Crystal went to a doctor's visit..LE went to find her to give DNA and ended up at wrong office. jmo

[Elle]

Yep. T.J. Hart (sp?) was reporting LIVE that she just took off and hasn't been found. I wonder if she went all the way back to Baker County to the doctor?

I don't believe she had a doctor's appointment in the first place. I also find it curious that she has not been able to be reached via cell phone, surely she has one of those.
imo, somethings up.

[WhiteShark]

I have stopped watching JVM...I'm tired of her attitude towards men...In her eyes they have to be the ones that are wrong....Hasn't she ever heard of women criminals?....I really do not care for her attitude....and she rarely knows what she is saying.....she puts on that voice of authority that really goes thru me....


I think she is the one with the "issues"......JMOO

ditto, and all that hollering...........gives me a headace, so I use my option to change channels.:blink:

[KatyDid]

Is ther anyone on the thread that is from the Fla area to hear what is being reported locally.

The HLN report was she took off in her car after being told the LE were coming to get a DNA sample. It was reported she said to tell them she had a Dr appointment and left immediately.

She has a cell phone. Why can't she be located by answering her phone unless she has gone on the lam.

It's sounding rather peculiar isn't it. :sneaky:

[crymeariver2006]

The report didn't say how she knew about the DNA sample being needed, but she said "If they need me I'll be at a doctor's appointment". LE tried to find her, but couldn't.

ETA: Wasn't she in the hospital right at the first of this case?

Yes she was.

If she said that, it's an innocent statement.

Somehow I think this is much ado about nothing. If her doctor is in her hometown, that's a hundred miles away - 1 1/2 hours there and 1 1/2 hours back.

Probably more like a game of telephone and it spread like wildfire.

JMO though 'cause the police have been so tight lipped about everything else, I honestly can't see them telling the media that they needed a DNA sample from Crystal and that she was missing now.

[Peaches]

Is ther anyone on the thread that is from the Fla area to hear what is being reported locally.

The HLN report was she took off in her car after being told the LE were coming to get a DNA sample. It was reported she said to tell them she had a Dr appointment and left immediately.

She has a cell phone. Why can't she be located by answering her phone unless she has gone on the lam.


You would think that her mother could get in touch with her via phone.

Also.............I keep remembering that when Crystal was ratting out Ron that she said

He loved HaLeigh and would not hurt her unless he got really6 angry and then maybe he would

Also.............at one time during this interview, she referred to HaLeigh as being his child............not our child..............I found that odd.

I hope that if she took HaLeigh that she is safe and alive!

[Dells]

LE. She knew they were coming, but left for a doctor's appointment.

I wonder how/why she got the head's up the LE was coming for her DNA?:confused:

[VC2]

Mike on HLN still reporting Crystal missing. I wonder how long it's been since she went to the doctor. :scared:

whoa.. LE says they need to get dna, and are coming now..and she leaves? This is weird.

Le going to the right or wrong doctor, makes no difference, why did they follow her to any doctor! If it was just routine then wait for her to get back from her appt. Its not like they didn't have Haleigh's dna from the house and paternal dna to do a match with.

this is weird.

imo

[CANDYKISSES]

Maybe Crystal's medications are more "interesting" to Crystal than Haleigh's were. :blink:

I was thinking that too Lavenia, but we're bad....to the bone.....:sneaky:

[KatyDid]

The report didn't say how she knew about the DNA sample being needed, but she said "If they need me I'll be at a doctor's appointment". LE tried to find her, but couldn't.

ETA: Wasn't she in the hospital right at the first of this case?

Odd her doc appt is more important than aiding LE in the search for her missing daughter. Just odd to me. I would have called my doc office and rescheduled.

[5boxersmom]

What was Crystal in the hospital for?

[kitty1182]

Well now..What if Crystal took her and Misty was in on it? I hope this is the case and she's alive and well.....

[annalyzer]

IMO..if Crystal wanted to "point suspicion" WHY did she inform media that Haleigh loved Misty and how good Misty was to the kids? Crystal certainly DID NOT have to say anything nice about Misty.


Also Crystal having anything to do with this doesn't explain why Misty didn't wake up or the whole sheet/blanket story. There is a reason LE have not released the polygraph results and the trailer is still being held after over two weeks.

[Peaches]

Maybe Crystal's medications are more "interesting" to Crystal than Haleigh's were. :blink:


Not ONLY that but butterbean was around 6 months old when Ron and his mother were granted custody............well, Ron custody with the note that he had help from his mother.

ButterBean around 6 months old and HaLeigh around 2............He has had the ever since -----------

It is my understanding that Crystal missed about 12 doctors appointments she was suppose to take HaLeigh -------------------

BUT............she can not miss one in order to help find her daughter

What kinda of a mother is this..............???????? Poor HaLeigh!

[RiverWalk]

Odd her doc appt is more important than aiding LE in the search for her missing daughter. Just odd to me. I would have called my doc office and rescheduled.

Me too. ----

[TunaMelt]

ditto, and all that hollering...........gives me a headace, so I use my option to change channels.:blink:

Let me just jump in here and second that ditto.

If you don't have a headache before her show, you will most assuredly have one five minutes into it.

A know-it-all man-hater.

We give her the "mute" treatment. If I could find something else to watch I would.

[RiverWalk]

What was Crystal in the hospital for?

dehydrated or something like that IIRC.

[VC2]

That's what I don't understand.

Would she get advance warning that they needed the sample? Would her family get advance warning that they needed Crystal for a sample? Would LE tell anyone what they needed a person for?

This is not making sense.

i can see calling and saying "we need a dna sample, will send a tech down for it", there is no reason to suspect that she would take off and they aren't saying why they need the sample (except blows my mind they didn't get one from the first day since there would be some interest if they found crystals dna where she didn't live and said she had not been..one of those rule them out things you do early and not bc of suspicion imo) but there is no reason to be upset or think its bc they want "you" as opposed to just putting things in order if haleighs body is found.

imo

[Myka]

Wow, I can't help but notice Crystal is keeping HER Dr.s appt. when she wasn't so hot about Haleigh's appointments. :confused:

Thank You!!!

[Mandysmom]

Well now..What if Crystal took her and Misty was in on it? I hope this is the case and she's alive and well.....

That would be a true miracle, wouldn't it?

[Dells]

Certainly strange that she wouldn't re-schedule her Dr.'s appt. & be available for the DNA sample. Doesn't sound good to me.

I think so too. Odd, very odd. I would think giving a DNA sample would more important than a doctor's appt at this point in time. I would think that Haleigh's family would cancel any appts that weren't a life or death matter in order to do whatever they can to find their child. I also think it sounds like she took off very abruptly. Did she mention to anybody previously that she had a doctor's appt? I hope she is found soon and can provide some answers, but as of right now it is giving me a very uneasy feeling.:unsure:

[Speedy30]

:biggrin:

Maybe she went to get Haleigh a put an end to all of this. I hope and wish.

imo

Oh, I hope thats what it is, I wish.

[kitty1182]

That would be a true miracle, wouldn't it?

It sure would Sissy..Crystal might go to jail, but at least the child would be safe.....

[emdragon]

What was Crystal in the hospital for?

She collapsed from Dehydration I believe.

[Myka]

wait a minute....shouldn't LE already have a DNA sample from Ron, Crystal and Misti already?

[VC2]

You and me both Katy. I'm sure you're like me and you've put off seeing the dr a many of day just so you can take care of what your babies need.

yeah.. especially when dna could be needed bc a body was found. (which i am not inferring here but with a missing child...)



IMO

[5boxersmom]

dehydrated or something like that IIRC.

TY again. :biggrin: This was after Haleigh went missing?

Sounds like she might be preggers again. Dehydration and Dr. appointment. :w00t:

imo

[KKKKKKatie]

I really hadn't considered Crystal a suspect but it would explain why Haleigh didn't make any noise....if it was her Mother taking her out of bed IMO

[caphill]

It's sounding rather peculiar isn't it. :sneaky:


Very strange. If my child were missing I would have my cell charged and with me every second. She has been seen many times with her phone in her tent and walking around.

According to the report she took off in her car when she was notified the LE needed a DNA sample. It was reported she said to those around her that "when they come, tell them I have a Dr's appointment"

To clarify a poster's earlier question....the "they" she referred to was the LE.

I sounded as she took off alone in her car. That is an assumption simply because it was not reported that she had her baby with her.

[KatyDid]

You and me both Katy. I'm sure you're like me and you've put off seeing the dr a many of day just so you can take care of what your babies need.

Yes FA, and it seems like such a critical time right now in the search for Haleigh. Surely somone had told Crystal that cadaver dogs had been brought out this morning. Then, she gets a call that LE needs her dna, but she needs to go to the doctor, and now is 'missing'. :confused:

[~jomomma~]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/5pm/default.aspx

moving to a dumpster!!!

sorry...tried to post it so quick...lol

they reported that they are just now moving to search this dumpster. they should be back to report at 6:00

[KKKKKKatie]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/5pm/default.aspx

moving to a dumpster!!!

Hi my friend :wub:

I missed it what did it say???

[Myka]

Maybe i'm wrong...but i thought i heard Ron and Misty say they gave DNA so they could test stuff in the house..........but i've never heard of Crystal giving DNA...

ok Thanks FA.....you could be right, however you would think LE had DNA on all in the house....but look how long it took for DNA from the A's.

[Texas48]

I'm calling KidFinders!

Maybe they'll have better luck finding an adult. :wink:Serious sad case and your post came at the right time cry. I needed to laugh right about now so..thank you..that was funny. lol:thumbsup:

[KatyDid]

wait a minute....shouldn't LE already have a DNA sample from Ron, Crystal and Misti already?

That is what many here think too. Not sure why they wouldn't already have dna from crystal.

[RiverWalk]

TY again. :biggrin: This was after Haleigh went missing?

Sounds like she might be preggers again. Dehydration and Dr. appointment. :w00t:

imo

I hope not. Gads. :crying:

[KatyDid]

Very strange. If my child were missing I would have my cell charged and with me every second. She has been seen many times with her phone in her tent and walking around.

According to the report she took off in her car when she was notified the LE needed a DNA sample. It was reported she said to those around her that "when they come, tell them I have a Dr's appointment"

To clarify a poster's earlier question....the "they" she referred to was the LE.

I sounded as she took off alone in her car. That is an assumption simply because it was not reported that she had her baby with her.

Yes, the cell phone seems very odd. Seems LE could just call her. Things aren't adding up.

[KKKKKKatie]

Are they covering it live there Mr. Lucky???

[Peaches]

Just doesn't make sense to me. you know any dr would have worked with crystal and rescheduled her appt.

ohhhhhh yeah she knew they brought the dogs. No doubt in my mind she knew. then after that she left. and hasnt come back.


Dumpster..............

My heart is hurting.............my inside just sick.

This poor child!

[playnice]

Well now..What if Crystal took her and Misty was in on it? I hope this is the case and she's alive and well.....

That thought crossed my mind before Kitty. What if Crystal and Misti were friends and Misti moved in on Ron to help Crystal get him.
Big stretch I know.

[JD1974]

Yes, the cell phone seems very odd. Seems LE could just call her. Things aren't adding up.



Well if it is true that they are saying she literally ran off, chances are some of that would come from her not answering her cell.

[kitty1182]

That thought crossed my mind before Kitty. What if Crystal and Misti were friends and Misti moved in on Ron to help Crystal get him.
Big stretch I know.

Nothing would surprise me anymore...:sad:

[Texas48]

That's what I don't understand.

Would she get advance warning that they needed the sample? Would her family get advance warning that they needed Crystal for a sample? Would LE tell anyone what they needed a person for?

This is not making sense.I am not for sure that LE would have given advance notice to Crystal..after all..LE has not let anything out so far. What is going on here? jmo

[KatyDid]

Just doesn't make sense to me. you know any dr would have worked with crystal and rescheduled her appt.

ohhhhhh yeah she knew they brought the dogs. No doubt in my mind she knew. then after that she left. and hasnt come back.

Hmmm...and Crystal is the one that said the little brother talked about a man dressed in black coming in and getting his sister. The little guy didn't mention it to anybody else.

[~jomomma~]

Are they covering it live there Mr. Lucky???

they didn't stay on it long. geesh! guess we have to wait til 6:00.

mr. lucky....did they say WHY they are searching there? was it a tip?

[JD1974]

I am not for sure that LE would have given advance notice to Crystal..after all..LE has not let anything out so far. What is going on here? jmo


Probably just called and said we need a DNA sample...the odd thing is why would that request make her run off?

[JD1974]

Those anchors really need their mic's turned off during the breaks....

[SameHere1]

Maybe LE saying they needed a DNA from Crystal was a PLOY - and they were coming to arrest her - and she knew it.

If she is in fact MIA - I hope to God that she has Haleigh hidden somewhere safe and sound!

[VC2]

The report didn't say how she knew about the DNA sample being needed, but she said "If they need me I'll be at a doctor's appointment". LE tried to find her, but couldn't.

ETA: Wasn't she in the hospital right at the first of this case?

more curious to me than her taking off for the doctors appt is that LE went to find her. That is a fast and strong reaction to someone saying "im going to a doctors appt"

THAT is extremely curious.

[RiverWalk]

I would have thought LE would have checked out Crystal's alibi from day one?

Her mother said that she and Chad were at their home/trailer (in her yard) in Baker County, Florida. FWTW.

[Leanne Weich]

Why?????? if he is innocent and IMO he is, why feed the attorney`s??
I would suggest to everyone that LE has strongly suggested to Ronald that he not speak to media so the attention can get back on Haleigh instead of him.
As far as the mother`s side of the family, maybe LE wants them to keep running their gator. I am sure LE is analyzing every word spoken by Crystal and her family including her boy friend.

Someone posted her boy friend would NOT be liable for paying Crystal`s child support. You are absolutely correct. BUT......... Is he going to stand by and see her go to jail for contempt of court or will he pay it for her??? Just something to think about.

I think you're probably right about LE asking RC to cool it in the talking dept. When my ex-late husband kidnapped my kids after we split up (a disgustingly sordid break up btw), I was asked by LE not to discuss anything pertaining to the kidnap with anyone because all anyone was interested in was him stabbing me before pushing me off a building and closing me in a suitcase - the kids being missing were of secondary importance. At the time, I was just about to turn 19 and didn't know better than to answer any and all questions put to me and was unintentionally feeding into the sensationalism.

[KKKKKKatie]

Just reports here and there, next time shoud be at 6, but they are live

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/5pm/default.aspx


Thank you :seeya:

[RiverWalk]

Maybe in her heart she knows that they may have found Haleigh and they need it for comparison. I am not saying that is it but I know I wouldn't want to face that either. IMOO

OR it's about that abandoned house they took her to the other night???

MOO

[KatyDid]

Probably just called and said we need a DNA sample...the odd thing is why would that request make her run off?

maybe that request coming after the cadaver dogs were back on the property is what spooked her.

[5boxersmom]

OR it's about that abandoned house they took her to the other night???

MOO

Oh you could be right. Maybe that is where she hid out and waited to get Haleigh. I so hope she does have her and she if safe. I hope this with all my heart.

imo

[CC I See]

Maybe in her heart she knows that they may have found Haleigh and they need it for comparison. I am not saying that is it but I know I wouldn't want to face that either. IMOO.... I am in agreement here. She might just be afraid of knowing that they need the Mother's DNA for ID. Remember, the news media always makes things more serious than it is.....

[Armchairdet]

OR it's about that abandoned house they took her to the other night???

MOO

I wonder if they found some evidence in the abandoned home, and took her there to see her reaction? It seems like they would take Ron since Haleigh lived with him. I mean, at least took him as well. I just don't know what to think of any of this. I wonder if she does have Haleigh hidden somewhere, and is now on the run with her?

[5boxersmom]

I think you're probably right about LE asking RC to cool it in the talking dept. When my ex-late husband kidnapped my kids after we split up (a disgustingly sordid break up btw), I was asked by LE not to discuss anything pertaining to the kidnap with anyone because all anyone was interested in was him stabbing me before pushing me off a building and closing me in a suitcase - the kids being missing were of secondary importance. At the time, I was just about to turn 19 and didn't know better than to answer any and all questions put to me and was unintentionally feeding into the sensationalism.

OMG :w00t: Glad you are here with us today.

Ron has been quiet so it seems like he is obeying LE.

imo

[TunaMelt]

Please, someone:

Who is Little Butterbean?

:huh:

[playnice]

maybe that request coming after the cadaver dogs were back on the property is what spooked her.

If she did do something I hope she dont pull a Melinda Duckett.
Her mom looks evil enough to me to hide Haleigh out to cast suspicion on Ron as a parent to get the kids for Crystal and get her out of child support. jmo.
Im sorry but there is something about that woman I dont trust.

[Armchairdet]

Please, someone:

Who is Little Butterbean?

:huh:

Jr. Haleighs little brother.

[RiverWalk]

So she knows LE wants a DNA sample and just goes to the Dr's and then home?! Whats wrong with people!

No, no. I was talking about where she was the morning that Haleigh went missing . . . in her mother's yard in her trailer with Chad.

Not today. Today it was reported that LE wanted her DNA, she knew that and left anyway to go to the doctor. Have heard nothing since about her whereabouts.

HLN will repeat at the top of the hour.

[5boxersmom]

wow so they went home after being asked about DNA?

No Crystals mom said they were home the night Haleigh was kidnapped.

[RiverWalk]

wow so they went home after being asked about DNA?

No. I was answering about her whereabouts when Haleigh went missing.

[5boxersmom]

Wonder what time the Drs. appointment was? It is almost 6 pm in Fl.

[mustangtoni]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132315&catid=3

Haleigh Search Moves to Nearby Dumpster

SATSUMA, FL -- Late Thursday afternoon, investigators, who have had their busiest day in about a week, went to the neighborhood behind Haleigh Cummings' house and began searching through a construction dumpster.

After 5 p.m., the search moved into the Villas neighborhood, which is just on the other side of a fence from where Ronald and Haleigh Cummings' house is.

First Coast News Erich Spivey says investigators were following a tip from area neighbors.

It is not clear if this is the first time this area has been searched, or specifically what searchers are after as they looked through the large dumpster.

[odyssey]

Please, someone:

Who is Little Butterbean?

:huh:

It is what Crystal called Ron jr. on her myspace account. I was there today and noticed she had been adding new friends whiled logged into on the 23rd (Monday). There are several new "thanks for the add" comments on her myspace.

moo

[5boxersmom]

ohhhhhhh ty. i was confused

YW. These two cases Haleigh and Caylee have had me confused many many times. :confused::biggrin:

imo

[Texas48]

TY again. :biggrin: This was after Haleigh went missing?

Sounds like she might be preggers again. Dehydration and Dr. appointment. :w00t:

imo
LOL..dehydration+dr. appt. = pregnant..??????:ohmy:

[KKKKKKatie]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132315&catid=3

Haleigh Search Moves to Nearby Dumpster

SATSUMA, FL -- Late Thursday afternoon, investigators, who have had their busiest day in about a week, went to the neighborhood behind Haleigh Cummings' house and began searching through a construction dumpster.

After 5 p.m., the search moved into the Villas neighborhood, which is just on the other side of a fence from where Ronald and Haleigh Cummings' house is.

First Coast News Erich Spivey says investigators were following a tip from area neighbors.

It is not clear if this is the first time this area has been searched, or specifically what searchers are after as they looked through the large dumpster.

thanks mustang....so it appears it came from a tip and not something they found IMO

[Armchairdet]

Wonder what time the Drs. appointment was? It is almost 6 pm in Fl.


Not saying it is the case here, but some people who don't have insurance, and even some that do use urgent care centers as their primary Doctor so to speak. They are open after usual hours. IMO

However, it has been a couple of hours so I think perhaps she may not have actually been 100% truthful about having a Dr. appointment. Again, IMO.

[Kip]

Wow, I can't help but notice Crystal is keeping HER Dr.s appt. when she wasn't so hot about Haleigh's appointments. :confused:

My thoughts exactly. Here's a mother who can't be bothered to take her daughter to the doctor for treatments to maintain her health. But when asked by LE to stay home for a 2-min test that might help find or identify her daughter, scoots out the door fast to get herself to the doctor. There's something very wrong with this picture.

[TunaMelt]

Jr. Haleighs little brother.

Oh.
My.


Thanks for answering!
:wink:

[Mandysmom]

I've got to leave for awhile, but I'll be praying that they find little Haleigh and bring her home safe and alive.

Y'all take care.

[TunaMelt]

It is what Crystal called Ron jr. on her myspace account. I was there today and noticed she had been adding new friends whiled logged into on the 23rd (Monday). There are several new "thanks for the add" comments on her myspace.

moo

How heartwarming.
:rolleyes:

But thanks for the explanation!

[Armchairdet]

Oh.
My.


Thanks for answering!
:wink:


Your welcome. :seeya:

[caphill]

So she knows LE wants a DNA sample and just goes to the Dr's and then home?! Whats wrong with people!


She never arrived at the Dr's office. The LE went to the Dr office and she was not there. Maybe another Dr's office? Why suddenly take off when she was notified the LE were coming by to get her for a DNA sample. Why not answer her cell phone or make a call back on where the LE can find her?

I think she is on the lam.

[RiverWalk]

Sorry for the confusion RiverWalk!! Hmm so her alibile is her Mom. That doesn't surprise me a bit...!!
Waiting patiently for the top of the hour..(biting my nails)

Today has been nothing but confusion, but it's par for the course with this case. :w00t:

[5boxersmom]

Are you all watching HLN? Oh my. :ohmy:

imo

[RiverWalk]

Searching the dumpster. :(

[Texas48]

I really hadn't considered Crystal a suspect but it would explain why Haleigh didn't make any noise....if it was her Mother taking her out of bed IMOKatie..when I was going over event in my head that is the one thing I kept coming back to. I know children sleep hard and some do not wake up even when you move them but an "unknown" person/kidnapper could not have taken that chance of Haleigh not waking up and screaming her head off. IF..BIG IF...it was Crystal then Haleigh would not have been scared and if Crystal told her to be quite..IMO Haleigh would have done so. I hope I am so wrong. I have not thought of Crystal as a suspect what so ever but this thought keeps coming around. I PRAY this case does not end the way the last case ended. I PRAY this little girl is alive. jmo

[WhiteShark]

OMG!:ohmy::sad::sad:

[KKKKKKatie]

Crystal on live....she did give DNA...never disappeared
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/5pm/default.aspx

[JD1974]

No, no. I was talking about where she was the morning that Haleigh went missing . . . in her mother's yard in her trailer with Chad.

Not today. Today it was reported that LE wanted her DNA, she knew that and left anyway to go to the doctor. Have heard nothing since about her whereabouts.

HLN will repeat at the top of the hour.


I am watching her talk to one of the reporters and she said all the rumors about her disappearing are bs

[Vixerz]

They've taped off certain area around a dumpster, setup generators with lights, and are going through a dumpster piece by piece. :(

[WhiteShark]

LE asked for DNA from bio-mom, she had left mesage for whomever spoke with LE that she had a md appointment and would give it later.......not seen since.....:cursing: