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kellabeck
02-14-2009, 08:45 PM
It's early, I know. But you probably have a gut feeling.

Kelly3820
02-14-2009, 09:55 PM
My first gut reaction the gf did it. But after seeing her interview I just don't feel she did. I mean if she did it I think her story would be perfect but it sure isn't. I truly believe and this disturbs me that some sicko grab Haleigh.

Politigal
02-14-2009, 10:39 PM
With 44 sex offenders in a 5 mile radius...I fear the worst.

I think someone near them took the child...someone who is probably aware the father works evenings or nights.....someone aware there's only a young woman there with the kids.

I think it's possible that it's someone who is very familiar with their home...who's been inside the home before...someone who may have recently visited there.

The first 36 hrs are crucial in child abductions and if not found in that time frame....it's usually a tragic ending....

I just pray they find her soon and find the evidence to convict whoever took her.

n/t
02-14-2009, 10:54 PM
I just don't know. There are still a lot of things that don't make sense as many of us have pointed out. The light, the sleeping pattern, the back door, and now the blanket....but stranger abductions do happen as we have seen in other cases.

I just hope little Haleigh is found alive. I keep hoping maybe she just wandered off somewhere but after 5 days and all the searches, I think they would have found her. It breaks my heart when I see her photos on television. :sad:

Bird
02-14-2009, 10:56 PM
Misty looks evasive when answering--her eyes shift around or she closes them. I think she's hiding something, but I don't know what it is. I voted that she did it because there was no other choice close to what my instinct tells me, but I don't exactly think she *did* it, it's more that I think in some way she's responsible for what happened to Haleigh and she knows it, so she's lying and covering up the actual details of what happened and when it happened. Did she have a boyfriend over while her official boyfriend was at work? Is that why the kids were in their own room when the daddy thought they would have been in the bed with Misty during his absence? Dunno. Did she let someone into the house who molested Haleigh and things went bad so the child had to be carried off somewhere and hidden/buried? Dunno. Did she punish the child and somehow that went bad? I just don't know--but what I do feel strongly that she's hiding something to protect herself, for some reason, and I base this on her body language and evasive eyes whenever answering a question.

Regina.Lampert
02-15-2009, 08:05 AM
I just can't shake a bad feeling about Misti not calling 911 until she is told to by Ronald. Something just not right about that, imo.

msgatorslayer
02-15-2009, 08:25 AM
Still to early for me to form an opinion.

I'm leaning towards a stranger abduction though.

The 44 registered SO's have been interviewed. Those are the ones within a 5 mile radius though and I'd like to see LE go to the 10 mile mark. Also, it could be someone who is not a registered SO, like Joseph Smith.

ellegna
02-15-2009, 08:51 AM
I'm leaning more towards someone close to the family.
Don't know why. Call it a gut feeling.

Justins Mom
02-15-2009, 09:31 AM
Just coming on board and am asking a question - If its been covered, forgive me.

Misty ( funny, that is our 16-1/2 year old ( today - happy B-D) Lab Mix's name......)

Misty.. Very young to be given that kind of responsibility...

When did misty begin watching the kids this way (over night)
Living w/BF or staying overnight to baby sit?

Dating others? Is she from this area too?

I'm leaning towards either someone who knows her..... Someone in her family.... A party or get together where someone became aware of a little girl in a house under this situation - A friend brought a friend... One of the 44 s-o's....

I still have the hinky meeter ringing over her story of how the child was missing under the circumstances she says.

Her mom and family? Knew the situation and took her? dont think so right now.

I am praying she will be found but as the days go by with nothing.....:sad:

Spry
02-15-2009, 10:52 AM
With 44 sex offenders in a 5 mile radius...I fear the worst.

I think someone near them took the child...someone who is probably aware the father works evenings or nights.....someone aware there's only a young woman there with the kids.

I think it's possible that it's someone who is very familiar with their home...who's been inside the home before...someone who may have recently visited there.

The first 36 hrs are crucial in child abductions and if not found in that time frame....it's usually a tragic ending....

I just pray they find her soon and find the evidence to convict whoever took her.

I believe I heard a report that all the registered sex offenders in the area checked out.

SavannahStar
02-15-2009, 11:42 AM
Leaning toward stranger abduction.

Ice Cycle
02-15-2009, 11:47 AM
I believe it probably was a stranger/ stalker or a acquittance/stalker
and not a spare of the moment thing. That is if it is true both of
them passed the L.D. test.

iluvmua
02-15-2009, 12:43 PM
I'm leaning towards stranger abduction

GentleBreeze
02-15-2009, 01:30 PM
I don't think the family is involved. I believe they all are hurting and wanting Haleigh back safe and sound.

I do think it was someone that knew the work schedule of the father and knew that the little children were left there with Misti alone.

I don't know if this is someone that knows them or someone who was watching this family and made their move.

imo

Pebbles
02-15-2009, 03:37 PM
I feel as though something happened to Haleigh the afternoon or morning before, and Misti and Haleigh's dad worked on a story together. It seems strange that just as Haleigh's dad was coming home from work, Misti was searching for Haleigh.

Deep down I just don't believe something happened in the early morning hours, which is why there is so many changes in the story.

TxLady2
02-15-2009, 07:55 PM
I say I don't know enough yet to form an opinion.
A child predator will sometimes wait for days or weeks, watching the house and the people in it, to get a feel for when the man of the house is not home, or when the children might be more vulnerable.
It very well could have been a stranger to them, but that stranger could easily have watched them from a distance for weeks.
I've been reading on some other boards and I have to be amazed that a few have already formed opinions as to exactly what happened and who did it..... in detail. Sounds like a mystery novel in the making.
My opinion of both the dad and the g/f is that they are both very immature, the dad has an anger management problem, and the g/f is just too scared right now to make much sense.
These types of people are not used to media attention, they don't know how to react on camera, and they are not functioning too well because of worry and concern, and the more time passes, their hopes are getting thin. I am going to give them a pass until I see or hear something that makes me think otherwise, but at this point, I don't think the mom, the dad, or the girlfriend are involved at all... nor any of the other family members. JMO.

Kazzle
02-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Misty looks evasive when answering--her eyes shift around or she closes them. I think she's hiding something, but I don't know what it is. I voted that she did it because there was no other choice close to what my instinct tells me, but I don't exactly think she *did* it, it's more that I think in some way she's responsible for what happened to Haleigh and she knows it, so she's lying and covering up the actual details of what happened and when it happened. Did she have a boyfriend over while her official boyfriend was at work? Is that why the kids were in their own room when the daddy thought they would have been in the bed with Misty during his absence? Dunno. Did she let someone into the house who molested Haleigh and things went bad so the child had to be carried off somewhere and hidden/buried? Dunno. Did she punish the child and somehow that went bad? I just don't know--but what I do feel strongly that she's hiding something to protect herself, for some reason, and I base this on her body language and evasive eyes whenever answering a question.


I agree Bird. Her body language is .... disturbing. What struck me the most was watching her with the father. His body language is of a man who is totally defeated and devasted. His shoulders are down, his expression is one of complete and utter despair. Misti, on the other hand was walking with her shoulders sort of swinging, up, and she looks much more in control. In fact, watching her I had the impression that the whole thing was a bore to her. She's way too young to have been left alone with those children. Little kids can try your patience and 17 year old may not be able to deal with it. My guess and impression is that she lost her temper and killed the child. She did sound as if she was crying on the 911 call but that could have been in response to father's reaction, ie, he was angry, yelling at her, blaming her. She SOUNDS like she's upset and in the next second she's seems completely composed. I smell a rat. Father said he made sure the door was locked so who unlocked it? Cinder block will likely have skin cells and that means dna. I feel sorry for her parents, no matter what mistakes they might have made. They're obviously deastated....girlfriend not so much.

Kazzle
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
I feel as though something happened to Haleigh the afternoon or morning before, and Misti and Haleigh's dad worked on a story together. It seems strange that just as Haleigh's dad was coming home from work, Misti was searching for Haleigh.

Deep down I just don't believe something happened in the early morning hours, which is why there is so many changes in the story.

I thought about that, but he's totally believable. He didn't murder that baby and neither did her mother. They might not have been the best parents, but looking at the pictures on tv of the baby and her family, he adored her. I do agree that it happened earlier...while gf was with her. She killed her, set it up and waited for him to come home. I might be wrong,. but I thought I heard on NG that the father was at work when the child came home from school and was at work all night until he got home shortly before the 911 call.

Unfortunately, its not all that unusual for a child to be murdered by the bf or gf of the child's parent. Its known as a "boyfriend" murder when a man does it. I had a criminal justice professor who opined it's evolutionary, the way a tomcat will kill the kittens of a female cat he wants to mate with in order to force her intop estrus. The GF is young. I wonder if she felt some jealousy of Haliegh and her relationship with her father.

Kazzle
02-15-2009, 08:54 PM
I just can't shake a bad feeling about Misti not calling 911 until she is told to by Ronald. Something just not right about that, imo.

Totally. She wasn't too worried about it until he got there.

Pebbles
02-15-2009, 09:22 PM
I thought about that, but he's totally believable. He didn't murder that baby and neither did her mother. They might not have been the best parents, but looking at the pictures on tv of the baby and her family, he adored her. I do agree that it happened earlier...while gf was with her. She killed her, set it up and waited for him to come home. I might be wrong,. but I thought I heard on NG that the father was at work when the child came home from school and was at work all night until he got home shortly before the 911 call.

Unfortunately, its not all that unusual for a child to be murdered by the bf or gf of the child's parent. Its known as a "boyfriend" murder when a man does it. I had a criminal justice professor who opined it's evolutionary, the way a tomcat will kill the kittens of a female cat he wants to mate with in order to force her intop estrus. The GF is young. I wonder if she felt some jealousy of Haliegh and her relationship with her father.



Could Misty of been jealous of the relationship between Haleigh and her dad?

Noahs ARK
02-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I haven't decided yet.

I keep flip-flopping back and forth.

velvetbrown
02-16-2009, 02:26 AM
I feel there is something 'off' with the Dad and Gfriend's behavior... First, she changed her story sleeping arrangements,,,the children slept alone, vs sleeping with gf. second, why did she not call 911 immediately? Thirdly, that area where they live gets DARK Most children don't like the dark...

gino1234
02-16-2009, 08:08 AM
At first I thought Misti could of been lying/ but now with the missing sex offender in florida...... anything is possible... Everyone is a suspect at this point! But one thing I know for sure I wish this people would leave this poor little children alone!!!!



All of them deserve to die from that slim ball Coey sp? to Casey Anthoney! I dont want my tax money to pay for them to just take up space.....

2boysMom
02-16-2009, 08:34 AM
Does anyone know who this "AC" guy is and has he been cleared? I'm guessing he is an air conditioner repair man? If this has been discussed already, I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Thanks.

gino1234
02-16-2009, 08:35 AM
sp correction Slim Ball Couey

gino1234
02-16-2009, 08:36 AM
Nancy Grace said friday that AC guy was cleared.

2boysMom
02-16-2009, 09:06 AM
Nancy Grace said friday that AC guy was cleared.

Thanks, gino1234. I'm hoping that they are strongly focusing on Misti's predator cousin.

2boysMom
02-16-2009, 09:11 AM
I'm praying that there is not a connection between Misti and her cousin in some bad way. Has it been determined whether or not Misti is on drugs? Like LaveniaRedux, I feel a motherly protectiveness for Misty.

gemsbmw
02-16-2009, 09:21 AM
From day one I got the feeling as I did with Susan Smith. The GF cannot look into the camera and this bothers me.

i_pickle
02-16-2009, 09:52 AM
I voted someone known to the family. I'm not ruling out family members. I have the same concerns about the Dad's temper that I read here. I also think it's plausible that the g/f did it because she changed her story so much.

Altho I agree that SO's stalk their prey, I don't think a stranger did this.

FrankieBones1
02-16-2009, 10:55 AM
I believe it probably was a stranger/ stalker or a acquittance/stalker
and not a spare of the moment thing. That is if it is true both of
them passed the L.D. test.

Has LE come forward to the media to say that they both passed the poly?

TealMermaid
02-16-2009, 12:12 PM
I'm praying that there is not a connection between Misti and her cousin in some bad way. Has it been determined whether or not Misti is on drugs? Like LaveniaRedux, I feel a motherly protectiveness for Misty.

I do too. This girl should be shopping for prom gowns, not the live in girlfriend of a grown man with two kids.

She seems vulnerable to me. I suspected she was a victim of sexual abuse, and that proved to be true. I pray she's not involved, and the little girl is found alive.

TealMermaid
02-16-2009, 12:17 PM
Father did it, he's shown the most propensity for violence so far. I dont believe him at all. This is another case of familial family violence and or abuse. Plain and simple.

Kat

I disagree. What violence are you talking about? He's distraught and angry that his daughter is missing. He was at work when this occurred.
He's frustrated that it happened on his girlfriend's watch. He probably feels that if he was home, it wouldn't have happened.

Mamie
02-16-2009, 03:37 PM
Ohh, I need to be clarified as to what "stranger abduction" VS "someone the family knows, means".

I think it is an abduction by someone that the family has ties to, but they don't necessarily know they do. For example, I don't think it's someone who just randomly popped in out of the blue without knowing *something* about the family or home, or Haleigh in advance. But, I don't know if the family could identify that person now. It could have been someone who attended a party at their home at one time, a repairman, a neighbor's friend, someone Ron met in jail, etc.

I'm leaning away from *direct* family members as of yesterday. Leaning.


I was just going to bring up the part about it could be someone who has been in that mobile home before and knows the layout of it. They could have been friends with the renters before Ron and his family. They could be known to Ron without his realizing he knows them, until they are caught. It would be hard to remember or recite to someone everyone you know either well or just as an acquaintance, I would imagine there would be a few people that got left out. JMO

Mamie
02-16-2009, 03:40 PM
Father did it, he's shown the most propensity for violence so far. I dont believe him at all. This is another case of familial family violence and or abuse. Plain and simple.

Kat

Just curious------what do you think his motive would be?

i_pickle
02-16-2009, 04:08 PM
Just curious------what do you think his motive would be?I'm not KTee but imo, it's a possibility there was no motive. It's a possibility that she died during a beating.

I'm not saying that's what happened, I'm saying it's a possibility.