TUESDAY, FEB.10th, PART2

[3Monkeys]

He should have been thanked as should have all the searchers but I suspect he was on THE list!

I agree he should have been acknowledged... do you really suspect he was asked not to come? Gosh, why would they oppose to him being there?

[crimeq]

she'll never see it. Baez screens her mail, she only gets Casey-friendly mail...in other words, she gets very little mail.


Baez screens her mail? Are you sure? I thought this was a jail function, not an atty. function. ???

[happy2bme]

George's speech got to me the most, Especially when he said he misses her kisses on the cheek. :crying:

Me too. Then he had to go and drop that little line about people writing Casey letters. He should know that can't be good. IMO

[sinagua]

Newsjunkie, you are so right. This child's memorial should not have become a public spectacle. moo

It was obvious to many, 3 days into this nightmare, that Kaylee's dead body had been in the trunk of the Anthony car.

This was too little, too late, for me.

I hope to never see anything like it, again.

I just wish that all of the missing children in the US, got this kind of attention.

[desmom]

They are replaying the show NG did earlier today on HLN.

[scillak]

I think the service was beautiful and I feel bad that we're all picking it apart. That being said, here I go..... I didn't like how much Cindy kind of preached at the end. I felt like the religion talk would have been appropriate coming from one of the ministers, but it was kind of weird to hear her giving instruction. I'm being very picky saying this, though.

[Callie]

Here is the link, for now it's on the front page.....

http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

*Adding* or here is the story with the links to the video...

http://www.wftv.com/news/18679461/detail.html *End of Add*

Thanks bunches! You're a sweetie!

[crimeq]

I could if they weren't hindering the judicial system by doing the above. If anyone else had hurt Caylee do you think they would be asking for their forgiveness?

Everyone is always someones child. imo

Great point. ^5.

Anybody else would be dog meat, but Casey is Mother of the Year.

[Xmygrits]

if ppl write her, what are the chances she will write back?

Dear Jane Doe,
Got your letter, wow you killed your kid too but got off scott free? Wow, that gives me hope. Hey! lets be BBFs now huh?
See you on the outside
CMA

??

:thumbsup:

I was trying to ease my anger this afternoon by thinking what possible new "careers" inmate casey could embark on next. How about Jail Pole Dance Instructor?

[taylor63]

I wasn't watching this case as closely before Christmas as I have been since. So I don't know all that went on as far as the "black-listed" people. I was surprised that Amy was on there, though. She's the person who took Cindy to Casey on that fateful July 15th day.

Does anyone happen to know exactly who was on the "uninvited" list? Asides from Padilla,Mr.Miller,and the Grunds.

[happy2bme]

I think the service was beautiful and I feel bad that we're all picking it apart. That being said, here I go..... I didn't like how much Cindy kind of preached at the end. I felt like the religion talk would have been appropriate coming from one of the ministers, but it was kind of weird to hear her giving instruction. I'm being very picky saying this, though.


I don't think you are. I didn't care much for it myself.:closedeyes:

[ishkabibble]

I agree he should have been acknowledged... do you really suspect he was asked not to come? Gosh, why would they oppose to him being there?

I don't think Roy Kronk wants the attention. he did what he did and I think has behaved admirably since. The media frenzy surrounding him has ebbed and I don't think he wants it stirred up again.

[crimeq]

I'm always a step and a half behind....:wub:

I can't think of anything that the great brains on this board didn't already know at least 10 minutes before me. except maybe that I'm going to eat a ham sandwich now


I knew that :-) But then, I also post on the Foodie Forum :-)

Enjoy your ham sandwich and is it with, or without, mayo-mustard-cheese-pickles, and is it rye or wheat or Wonder-white. :-)

Just kidding ;-)

[gaelicpeas]

Thanks! Can you tell me what page?Callie, go to this page and you will find a link to the full service:

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

[trich]

I don't feel bad for George anymore.
I did until he had a chance to free himself of the pressure and chose not to.
He is where he is because he wants to be.


He looked fine to me.
I still think his "supposed" suicide attempt was and is all bull!
Sure he feels sad, and upset...who wouldn't...anyone would if their daughter killed their grandaughter.....but I don't for a minute think he was going to kill himself.

[happy2bme]

Yes she was so ecstatic, that Casey waited seven months to tell her (if that is true).:confused:

[scillak]

I knew that :-) But then, I also post on the Foodie Forum :-)

Enjoy your ham sandwich and is it with, or without, mayo-mustard-cheese-pickles, and is it rye or wheat or Wonder-white. :-)

Just kidding ;-)

And, for goodness sakes, finish the whole thing. Do NOT put in the trunk of your car. We all know where even a fake ham sandwich in the trunk can lead.

[crimeq]

I don't know if it has any relevance but Saint Patrick is kind of like the Saint of the downtrodden and excluded, people who no one wants to have anything to do with. Apparently because he was inprisioned/enslaved for years and later brought Christianity to the Irish.

Shamrocks though, relating to this Saint, are kind of a myth. So as I said, could be relevant or could not.

Somehow I think this is more a case for Saint Jude, the saint of hopeless causes.

[CelticDawn]

But why ask forgiveness of the public, (other sinners) when it is only necessary to ask GOD's forgiveness?

another thing is....I personally dont care if they ever ask ME for forgiveness.....I might be a maggot but I have empathy for what theyre going through....I do sympathize.....

Just because I may think theyre horrid people <with George being questionable> doesnt mean that I cant care can it???

[marshmallow]

Great point. ^5.

Anybody else would be dog meat, but Casey is Mother of the Year.



look how they treated the Grunds.

[SavannahStar]

George's speech got to me the most, Especially when he said he misses her kisses on the cheek. :crying:


What got to me most was when he was talking about her coming out of the bedroom with her silly sunglasses and all the beads. I will always see her in those crazy sunglasses! And little blue crocs! What a sweetheart. They must miss her so much. :sad:

[marshmallow]

Yes she was so ecstatic, that Casey waited seven months to tell her (if that is true).:confused:

perhaps she was estatic because Casey finally told her what everyone already knew...

[Loves2Read]

So you think God won't forgive them unless they stop loving Casey? They didn't murder anyone. They are guilty of loving their daughter and grandaughter. period.

No, that's not what I think nor is that what I said or implied...but then you knew that didn't you.

[lonetraveler]

For what it's worth: I missed part of the first of the memorial but from what I did watch I thought it was very beautiful. I don't know what to say about the family mentioning Casey. I personally didn't care for it but I had to admit to myself that I don't think there is a written code of conduct for parents who have such a catastrophe happen in their family. Just how are you suppose to act at the funeral of your precious granddaughter when the murderer is your only daughter? I agree with some of you posters who stated that "the Anthonys are damned if they do and damned if they don't. First, theywere blasted for not having a funeral, then they planned and held the memorial and yes, some people don't like that either. I'm glad that they did decide to have the memorial for Caylee. It was becoming very clear that Casey and Jose had no intention of acknowledging that Caylee was in need of a funeral or memorial or some recognition for her very short life. I don't think that Casey was bothered at all for Caylee's remains to stay in a cardboard box; why would she when she didn't care if she was tossed into the woods as garbage. She is not about to grow a conscience now. I'm sure that there is no way for the Anthonys to mention their daughter in any way that would be received in a positive way. Face it, she is the lowest of low and murdered her own baby. I try very hard to overlook and even ignore what these grieving parents do or how they act. They are grieving for both Caylee and Casey. They may even feel guilty when they grieve for Casey because of what she did to Caylee. I was very close to my little brother who died way too young and know alittle of what Lee must feel. I do however feel that his message was to Casey, not Caylee during the memorial. To day I found tears for the first time while watching a sweet little girl who deserved so much more. George's statement did bother me more than the other two. I can't help but feel that he is in the most pain of them all. I think that Caylee may have been the only one in that house who really loved him. I think that Casey is being Casey. She didn't get her way on the funeral so she threw her little hissy fit and had Jose read her statement so that she could hurt her family alittle bit more. Hope that now, George, Cindy and Lee will come forward with all they know and finally bring justice for Caylee.

[crimeq]

Wonder if Lee's anger was about the public memorial vs. the private one his little sister supposedly would have preferred?

Lee and Casey seemed particularly united in their disdain for the publicity their little case was garnering. Lee demonstrated full-on hatred for the media during one of his jailhouse visits, and Casey has made more than a few remarks about how the "media will have a frickin field day with this."


I agree, and that makes me believe even more that Lee was complicit in this with Casey, that he helped in the cover-up. Of course if that's the case, neither of them would want ANY publicity because "silence is golden" and if there is silence for a long enough period of time, well, it all fades and goes away.

Obviously this public memorial focuses a huge Klieg light on the case.

Maybe Lee wasn't involved but just wants Casey to get away with what she did, out of his love for her--but focusing light on the subject is dangerous. They want to let it fade away and die.

Caylee died. The truth will not die; the truth will out.

[bhardy1956]

Did Cindy say that when Casey first told her that she was pregnant , cindy was ecstatic? Your teenager comes home pregnant and you are ecstatic. Was that another lie???

I noticed that right away when she said that, made my head spin!
Yeah, IMO it was! Not only that, wasn't said by Cindy's brother, Rick that casey looked preggers and Cindy didn't even know it? That doesn't sound like casey announced anything, they found out and probably confronted casey. So, yes I believe it to be another spin/lie.

[3Monkeys]

I don't think Roy Kronk wants the attention. he did what he did and I think has behaved admirably since. The media frenzy surrounding him has ebbed and I don't think he wants it stirred up again.

And if true (I have no reason to think it isn't) then I admire him even more for not attending. But I'm still surprised that the A's didn't directly acknowledge him. But I may be off base... this is the first case I've followed as closely as I am, and maybe thanking the person that found a loved ones remains is not typically done.

[OneUp]

What got to me most was when he was talking about her coming out of the bedroom with her silly sunglasses and all the beads. I will always see her in those crazy sunglasses! And little blue crocs! What a sweetheart. They must miss her so much. :sad:I bet they miss her dear little self too! I suspect that, like many people, they got wrapped up in their own lives and never REALLY appreciated her until she was gone. I've seen that happen many times before in the death of little ones.
It's so easy for a parent/grandparent to be too tired to read that story or to pop a video in to occupy a child rather than spend REAL and meaningful time with them. When our loved ones are gone we recall all of our lost moments. Even myself...and I've ALWAYS made a great effort to invest in my children.
Mayeb we can all at least take that from Caylee's death...to truely treasure every second that we are given with our loved ones.
JMO.

[Unperson1984]

He should have been thanked as should have all the searchers but I suspect he was on THE list!

I do wish one of the Anthonys had thanked all the volunteer searchers.

[happy2bme]

perhaps she was estatic because Casey finally told her what everyone already knew...


Maybe.....:mellow:

[Xmygrits]

I noticed that right away when she said that, made my head spin!
Yeah, IMO it was! Not only that, wasn't said by Cindy's brother, Rick that casey looked preggers and Cindy didn't even know it? That doesn't sound like casey announced anything, they found out and probably confronted casey. So, yes I believe it to be another spin/lie.

Bolding is mine.

Not only did Rick state Cindy didn't know it, but she also was in denial about it and made excuses for Casey's extended tummy. Rick told her, either the girl is pregnant or she is dying of a tumor the size of a baby...or something very similar.

[ishkabibble]

look how they treated the Grunds.

Were any of Casey's more recent friends there? Amy, Ricardo, Tony? What about Kio?

Do you think Jeff Hopkins surfaced? They were practically engaged prior to Caylee's disappearance according to Cindy. You would think that he would make an effort to be there. IF HE WERE A REAL PERSON!!!

How does Cindy even wrap her head around the extent to which Casey BS"D her during the past couple of years? Doesn't Baez wonder how much of what Casey tells him is fiction? She must be in 7th heaven as she sits and spews her lies to someone who actually seems to believe them. Are his private investigators coming back and telling him that everything she says checks out, the way the Anthony's PI told them?

[sukapi]

I'm aware of that. The point, the ONLY point, is that there is a whole lot of bereavement/memorial jewelry out there. NOT just the kind that holds cremains. If I hadn't spent two days last week looking for some, I'm not sure I would have had quite the appreciation for just how much IS out there.

Could be that any of the Anthonys were wearing bereavement jewelry of the sort that holds cremains. Could be that any of the Anthonys were wearing bereavement jewelry that does NOT hold cremains. I think most of us just wanted to know if there was verification for it, since it was posted at least twice that I recall, in a fashion indicating it WAS the cremains kind.

JMO

I'm sorry, I guess I totally misunderstood your post - :unsure:

[newsjunkie]

For what it's worth: I missed part of the first of the memorial but from what I did watch I thought it was very beautiful. I don't know what to say about the family mentioning Casey. I personally didn't care for it but I had to admit to myself that I don't think there is a written code of conduct for parents who have such a catastrophe happen in their family. Just how are you suppose to act at the funeral of your precious granddaughter when the murderer is your only daughter? I agree with some of you posters who stated that "the Anthonys are damned if they do and damned if they don't. First, theywere blasted for not having a funeral, then they planned and held the memorial and yes, some people don't like that either. I'm glad that they did decide to have the memorial for Caylee. It was becoming very clear that Casey and Jose had no intention of acknowledging that Caylee was in need of a funeral or memorial or some recognition for her very short life. I don't think that Casey was bothered at all for Caylee's remains to stay in a cardboard box; why would she when she didn't care if she was tossed into the woods as garbage. She is not about to grow a conscience now. I'm sure that there is no way for the Anthonys to mention their daughter in any way that would be received in a positive way. Face it, she is the lowest of low and murdered her own baby. I try very hard to overlook and even ignore what these grieving parents do or how they act. They are grieving for both Caylee and Casey. They may even feel guilty when they grieve for Casey because of what she did to Caylee. I was very close to my little brother who died way too young and know alittle of what Lee must feel. I do however feel that his message was to Casey, not Caylee during the memorial. To day I found tears for the first time while watching a sweet little girl who deserved so much more. George's statement did bother me more than the other two. I can't help but feel that he is in the most pain of them all. I think that Caylee may have been the only one in that house who really loved him. I think that Casey is being Casey. She didn't get her way on the funeral so she threw her little hissy fit and had Jose read her statement so that she could hurt her family alittle bit more. Hope that now, George, Cindy and Lee will come forward with all they know and finally bring justice for Caylee.


The memorial was beautiful until the family spoke.
They didn't casually mention Casey they went over the top about her.
Including her in the closing prayer well....think what you like.
I am almost done with this story.

[crimeq]

i think Cindy thought this was her chance to audition for AMERICAN IDOL :lol:

and her whole swaying back and forth in her seat, mouthing the words... geeeez... she looked like a teenager at a rock concert.. all she needed was a lighter to hold in the air.


Rocky Horror Picture Show :-) This case qualifies. This family qualifies.

[ishkabibble]

I am happy that is over. God Bless that beautiful child and may she rest in peace in Heaven. I hope Cindy, George and Lee go inside their house and I do not have to look at them or Casey again.

I hope the next time I see her is as she is taken from the courthouse to the Big House. After that, a mention in the news that she was denied parole for the 20th time.

[grammaw]

They could have expressed that all at a private service to people who want to hear it.
This was public and I believe many took offense. JMO

I Did! I took GreatOffense at that "standing ovation"What the H was that all about,I for one can't wait for this trial and All the evidence!Bring it on,PROS!!

[OneUp]

I do wish one of the Anthonys had thanked all the volunteer searchers.Me too...it could have been as general and simple as ..." thank you to all who searched for Caylee. We had hoped to bring her home safe, & we are grateful to those who worked tirelessly to bring her home."
That is where they lose me...even the most basic courtesies seem to escape them or be "beneath" them. I was taught to always, always say thank you for the effort...even if the gift/act/gesture wasn't to my preference.
JMO.

[Zeus]

I do wish one of the Anthonys had thanked all the volunteer searchers.

You would think ONE of them would have had the decency to do that. Actually, they all should have included their thanks but for none of them to do so is sad. And they're going to start a foundation for Missing Children?

[trich]

Did Cindy say that when Casey first told her that she was pregnant , cindy was ecstatic? Your teenager comes home pregnant and you are ecstatic. Was that another lie???

I thought nobody admitted Casey was pregnant until she was 7 months along.
this is why nothing this family says can be believed.

[WillowInFlight]

What got to me most was when he was talking about her coming out of the bedroom with her silly sunglasses and all the beads. I will always see her in those crazy sunglasses! And little blue crocs! What a sweetheart. They must miss her so much. :sad:

And how every night he made her, her own little bowl of pop corn. It's going to be those little things that they are going to miss so much.

[WillowInFlight]

I Did! I took GreatOffense at that "standing ovation"What the H was that all about,I for one can't wait for this trial and All the evidence!Bring it on,PROS!!

I wasn't offended, I saw it as the crowd showing their support.

[newsjunkie]

To anyone who thinks my posts are of the bashing nature or that no matter what happened I would have felt this way you are wrong.

I really hoped i could see some good and some heart in those people.
It didn't happen and I feel real bad that it didn't. I wanted closure to this freak show myself so maybe I will just have to close it off myself.
RIP lil one!:rose:

[Jpanda]

And how every night he made her, her own little bowl of pop corn. It's going to be those little things that they are going to miss so much.

So heartbreaking. I really enjoyed hearing more about Caylee and what she was like. Sounds like she was such a precious, charming little girl.

jmo

[ishkabibble]

Me too...it could have been as general and simple as ..." thank you to all who searched for Caylee. We had hoped to bring her home safe, & we are greatful to those who worked tirelessly to bring her home."
That is where they lose me...even the most basic courtesies seem to escape them or be "beneath" them. I was taught to always, always say thank you for the effort...even if the gift/act/gesture wasn't to my preference.
JMO.

They made sure not to mention OCSD or Tim Miller. I would have thought OCSD would have gotten a mention as they went out of their way to expedite things when George went "missing" Cut thru the red tape for them right away. It is not the fault of John Allen or Yuri Melich that this turned out exactly the way they said it would that first night.
The blame can only be placed on one set of shoulders.. Casey.

[desmom]

Me too...it could have been as general and simple as ..." thank you to all who searched for Caylee. We had hoped to bring her home safe, & we are grateful to those who worked tirelessly to bring her home."
That is where they lose me...even the most basic courtesies seem to escape them or be "beneath" them. I was taught to always, always say thank you for the effort...even if the gift/act/gesture wasn't to my preference.
JMO.

I agree.

Even if the family could not speak the words, they could have asked the minister to express the family's appreciation to the searchers. jmo

[Zeus]

To anyone who thinks my posts are of the bashing nature or that no matter what happened I would have felt this way you are wrong.

I really hoped i could see some good and some heart in those people.
It didn't happen and I feel real bad that it didn't. I wanted closure to this freak show myself so maybe I will just have to close it off myself.
RIP lil one!:rose:

First Clue: As soon as it became known they were going to restrict who could pay their respects

[WillowInFlight]

So heartbreaking. I really enjoyed hearing more about Caylee and what she was like. Sounds like she was such a precious, charming little girl.

jmo

Knowing some of the personal things makes it so much sadder for me. She is more than just a picture now.

[WillowInFlight]

ITA- George is different from the rest and he did do a great job. IMO

ITA, George really broke my heart.

[WillowInFlight]

HLN said only one person was asked to leave, a blogger.

[lonetraveler]

I do wish one of the Anthonys had thanked all the volunteer searchers.


---
I don't think that they were very happy that Caylee was found. I think that they were aware that Casey had murdered Caylee and did not want her body found. Maybe that is why they never thanked any of the searchers who were looking for a dead Caylee.

[CelticDawn]

I thought nobody admitted Casey was pregnant until she was 7 months along.
this is why nothing this family says can be believed.

THE ONLY way that I would be ecstatic if MY kid came home pregnant would be if I had previously suspected something horrid like Uterine cancer or something worse....and found out that it was a baby...


....other than that...??? no education no financial stability.....actually no stability at all....

[happy2bme]

HLN said only one person was asked to leave, a blogger.

Possibly Murt? Or the lady (can't think of her name) that was saying things about DC & CA?

[Mimi428]

I'm sorry, I guess I totally misunderstood your post - :unsure:

Not to worry, not to worry.

Every case, every board get information posted in the form of a statement before the facts are known. It ends up creating no end of problems down the line because 3, 6, 12 months later, someone remembers it being posted as a FACT, when it reality, it was simply just an opinion.

I have no problem with anyone's opinions. But for as few trials as I get to follow, I have seen several that end up with boatloads of erroneous information that were originally posted as affirmative statements, as FACTS, when they were not verified at all.

JMO

[crimeq]

I was actually curious about Lee going first and the things he spoke of FOR THE FAMILY....such as, "we are united in solidarity"..."we are not complete"...."We are united". Sometimes his speech made me feel like he was the "family spokesperson" and the speech was written for him....with a bit of his own sprinkled in through it.

Even when he spoke of it being so long since he was able to talk to her or to hug her.....I felt like he was speaking to Casey, not Caylee.....because he didn't say it in a sense of "I will never get to talk to you again or hug you again"....he just spoke of it being "so long" like they will someday but it was so hard to wait.

It is interesting that Lee was the first speaker and paved the ground for family solidarity. Then came George, then came Cindy at the last--the KEYNOTE speaker. Interesting in and of itself ... but shows a dynamic into the family as well, IMO.

I did not for one moment, not one instant, think he was talking about Caylee. It was clear that he was directing his message to Casey and he was adamant, insistent--over the top, really, in all the emphasis.

So I wonder what that's about, because Lee did that and did NOT say one danged word about Caylee. So his presence on that stage (and even at the event) was, for him, to send a coded message to Casey.

This family is really, really ... well, you know what I'm thinking ;-)

[Mimi428]

Did she happen to mention anything about being downright mean and nasty, by chance?

She did, she did.

<said in my best Greater Tuna voice>

[OneUp]

THE ONLY way that I would be ecstatic if MY kid came home pregnant would be if I had previously suspected something horrid like Uterine cancer or something worse....and found out that it was a baby...


....other than that...??? no education no financial stability.....actually no stability at all....You've got that right! If it was suspected to be illness..or MAYBE if she had thought she couldn't have children.
If my 17 y.o. came home with such an announcement, I'd smack her reset button!....and I'm not ANY sort of a proponent of smacking your kids or being ugly with them in any way!
was nineteen, paying my own way in life and college when I got PG, and my mother STILL did slap me, full in the face and gave me a full dressing down as well. That wasn't right or fair, but I think it is typical!
I'm not surprised that Cindy chose to not only rewrite history to her liking, but to try and sell it to the public. This is the woman who told us we will someday want to vote Casey MOTY! It's is just her normal way of operating and dealing with parts of life that she doesn't like...at least the things we have seen ourselves and heard reported indicate that it is.
JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

TH on HLN saying parts of the memorial were "creepy" specially when George asked for prayers for Casey.

[crimeq]

Hi everyone,

I watched the memorial this morning and just got around to posting. I realize my below opinion will not be a favored one, but after watching this memorial, I think I completely understand where the Anthonys are coming from.

I thought the memorial was absolutely beautiful and I think it was very healing for the Anthonys to be surrounded by supporters for once. I was skeptic at first about whether a public memorial was a good idea, but I think everyone in that church had a common goal today and that was to remember and hear about Caylee.

One thing that I truly got out of this memorial is the genuine realization that the Anthonys are not only dealing with the loss of their grandaughter, but also the fact that their daughter murdered her (which also could be by accident, in their minds). This whole experience I'm sure has changed each and every one of them and has challenged them in ways I'm sure they have never been challenged before.

I believe they are learning to accept that Caylee is deceased, and from what I can see, they are trying their hardest to forgive Casey. I can't condemn them for that. There are many victim's family members who somehow find the strength to forgive their loved one's murderers. It's hard for some people to fathom, including myself, but if I can understand that, then I can certainly understand their forgiveness for their 22 year old daughter. I'm sure it's hard, but someone once told me that the harder thing to do is usually the "right" thing, and in my opinion it would be a whole lot easier to just turn their backs on Casey.

I truly believe that they will attend court to show their support and forgiveness for Casey, but I also believe that they will ultimately accept her punishment when she receives it.

I have no doubt in my mind that if any of the Anthonys would have predicted that this would happen, they would have done a million things differently. But the bottom line, in my opinion, is that they never asked for any of this.

Anyway, just my two cents, and I respect all the alternative opinions out there as well.

JMO

I don't see that they've done anything differently than they've always done, and that's to deny.

I think that's where they'll always be. End of story.

[Elle]

I noticed that right away when she said that, made my head spin!
Yeah, IMO it was! Not only that, wasn't said by Cindy's brother, Rick that casey looked preggers and Cindy didn't even know it? That doesn't sound like casey announced anything, they found out and probably confronted casey. So, yes I believe it to be another spin/lie.

Hello

I do not think she was lying. I do think that her memory of the event has been romanticized. IMO it is not strange, considering many memories are never exactly how things happened. Caylee is gone and I think Cindy wants to remember every thing about her as positive and wonderful, including the very first time she heard of her existance.

jmho

[FrankieBones1]

Hi all! I missed the services. I guess it was televised? Is there anyway of seeing it on the net?

I imagine it's on YouT*be by now. I'm a little upset that Nancy Grace didn't replay the service at 4:30pm today like she said she would. I rushed home for it.

[nana6]

Hi friends, As some of you may know my hubby and \I are out of the country on vacation. Last week I was upset because I was going to miss the memorial. Last night I changed my mind. I started to think that this might be a show on the A\s part and I knew very well I did not want to look at that. From reading posts today I see I was right. It sounds like a show. I am so glad I did not witness this memorial. I took many times today to think of Caylee Marie Anthony. I stopped and thought of what a lovely little child she was. Her sweet smile and pretty eyes and darling voice. I said prayers for her, and remembered her last video at the home where her great grandfather was. Sweetness was the word that came to my mind. I for one am so glad I had my own little memorial for Caylee and now \I do not have to be upset about seeing her family in action. GOD is with her now and I know she is at peace.

[crimeq]

OK, I watched part of it even though I said I wouldn't. I was curious. And now that I've had some time to think about it, here's my two cents: It wasn't a complete travesty.

I think the memorial (except for some of the stuff the Anthonys said) was fine. Caylee was only two, so there was a limit to what they could say about her talents, accomplishments and life goals. They said things that were appropriate: How much they miss her, she loved green beans, she liked her funny glasses and beads, she called George "Jo-Jo" and Cindy "CC," and all the things that made her their grandaughter. And those things were heartfelt--even when it was said that Caylee loved her mother.

But they also told us two things we may not have wanted to hear: First, they are a united family. They are supporting their sister and daughter. Second, they think it's time to focus on forgiveness. They don't know how repulsed and unforgiving people are by what their daughter did. They think it's time for us to move on; they don't understand that people need to see justice served in cases like this. Justice is the only thing that can give us a collective sense of hope.

Lee's speech was the most emotional. I think he used CMA instead of Caylee's name because his feelings of loss are for both Caylee Marie and Casey Marie. That's what I think it was--it wasn't a coded conspiracy. It was saying to the world--without saying it--that he still loves and misses his sister as well as his niece. There could be more he has to face.

Not as many people were there as I thought would be. And it wasn't a circus.


Interesting interpretation re: the CMA and that would also explain why he kissed his wrist twice, perhaps one time for each CMA.

I still have difficulty understanding his anger? animosity? whatever was showing. He was definitely on edge.

[True2Blues]

The memorial was beautiful until the family spoke.
They didn't casually mention Casey they went over the top about her.
Including her in the closing prayer well....think what you like.
I am almost done with this story.

I'm glad I didn't watch it. Just knowing that it was a stage for the A's convinced me there was nothing I wanted to see.

[FrankieBones1]

We've hit our post limit on this thread. There's been a new one started by one of our members here.

[nana6]

Mark this day, Lomar. We are about to see the real Casey Anthony and this is going to get much more ugly before it's over. Lee's promise to Casey was that he would never tell and he expects her to do the same. She is not going to do that. If she had any intention of doing that, she would have send a message back showing solidarity with those people. She did not.

Baez has her so detached that she is no longer lying or covering up, she is no longer deceiving and she is going to roll over on those people one at a time. You are so right about statements. Grab a note book and hang on tight. This is going to get nasty.

Hi January, I was just wonding what you mean by Lee telling her he would never tell Did something new come out or is this old and i have forgotten thank you

[WillowInFlight]

Honestly Willow- what else can you do for her except pray. If we all get wrapped up in the "madness" then it is going to change us as well. KC is going to have to face what she has to for the rest of her life, and the best that we can hope for is the truth. IMO

ITA, I had no problem with George asking for prayers for Casey. I don't think that this was the time or the place for Cindy to go on about what a great loving mom Casey was though.

[lonetraveler]

The memorial was beautiful until the family spoke.
They didn't casually mention Casey they went over the top about her.
Including her in the closing prayer well....think what you like.
I am almost done with this story.

---
I did not say that I agreed with the Anthonys mentioning Casey, I also did not say that they "casually" mentioned Casey. I just said that they did and yes, they did. I didn't wish to hear anything about Casey either, I just acknowledged that I don't think they know how to act or what to say. I don't know of any "rules" that parents follow when their grandchild is murdered by their child. I personally would not have had a public memorial. I am very glad it is over. It was a bit "over the top" as you say, when they were imploring the public not to judge Casey and they insisted on including her in the memorial. It wasn't something I didn't expect though. They want so bad not to believe that Casey could have done this and maybe one day they will come to terms with that, right now, it is too fresh. I'm not going to put too much energy into thinking about how they act now, but I am going to expect them to come forward and tell the truth to LE, now that Caylee's memorial has been held.

[True2Blues]

TH on HLN saying parts of the memorial were "creepy" specially when George asked for prayers for Casey.


I pray for Casey. I pray that she gets what she so richly deserves.

[crimeq]

I'm not arguing about that... all i said was i didnt know how the poster was so certain that they all were wearing cremain jewelry with caylees ashes.... i looked at a bunch of pics, i enlarged them and i tried to see if i could see for sure and i couldnt because none of them were clear enough.

I'm not saying they werent... all I'm saying is if someone has a picture where it's obvious and thats what they are basing their statement on then post the picture because I can't find it and I'd like to see it.

JMO, but somehow I don't think it would be noteworthy if it were not significant, and I don't see that a locket with just Caylee's picture or name would do that. They've been wearing bracelets for Caylee for months, and it's not really newsworthy anymore. I think it was very MEANINGFUL for George that he had some special pendant he was wearing beneath his shirt that was about Caylee, and made him "feel better". Also, Cindy touched the pendant she wore often, and at one point, touched the pendant and looked directly at George in some kind of what seemed to be "meaningful" way.

I don't know. Can't confirm. But I can speculate and I do think they were all wearing jewelry that contained Caylee's ashes.

Frankly, the idea appeals to me personally and emotionally.

[bonniez45]

I've calmed reviewed the As' again,
Lee and George did give more than one thought to Caylee and I honor George for prayer and understanding and feel Lees' anger and grief , but why oh why when will they quit letting this girl destroy them.
I still believe that Cindy still has alot of anger toward the public and I understand that where else can she go with it? She's a controller but she was put in that position and I think until she can get her real anger toward the person it belongs to that will not change.
Lee young and his anger and confusion will eventually go where it belongs I just hope Mallory can hang in there.
George sometimes I want to yell at him and other times I feel he has been the most honest wih his pain I hope therapy will give him inner strength.
My biggest prayer is Casey will be honest to herself and family. So many want that so that healing can begin but, I don't see that happenng.
I had really hoped that the service would have remained just for the baby, I'm not going to write and say Hi and Lee is not fooling me, Cindy just stop.
Caylees' spirit I hope will eventually bring an honesty for all that is to come.

[True2Blues]

ITA, I had no problem with George asking for prayers for Casey. I don't think that this was the time or the place for Cindy to go on about what a great loving mom Casey was though.

I knew they'd do that and it's one reason I didn't watch. It should have been about Caylee and only Caylee. Instead, the A's tried to bend everyone to their will by including Casey in the prayers. They have no shame that bunch.

[cady]

George did say he was wearing a locket that had Caylee's name? or picture? on it, and that putting it on, made him feel better.

He was wearing it under his lavender shirt, that he wore because it was Caylee's favorite color. The locket would not be visible but George spoke of how meaningful it was for him to have it close to him.

I'm think George mispoke....he probably meant "in it" rather than "on it." Jmo

and I'm also thinking the "jewelry" George was asked to pick out was his choice of a locket to put the ashes in...as in cremation "jewelry."

The statement by Casey (read by Baez) threw in "I KNOW THEY CREMATED HER" That sentence is completely out of context....so why would it even be in there if it wasn't true? JMO

[Barbara fl.]

I wasn't offended, I saw it as the crowd showing their support.



Exactly....that is just how I saw it....The murderer is behind bars...the family did not murder Caylee....Casey did....I find no reason to blame them for this horrible thing.....

Unless we have walked in their shoes, we can not say for sure what we would do....I do not THINK I would act like them, I do no THINK i would try and cover for my daughter...I would like to think that I would only stand by my child and not say a word....but I am not them....

I know when my husband passed away...my son was only 13 and he was very close to his father...he started acting out almost immediately, that I didn't have time to grieve my husbands passing, I was too busy keeping up with my sons next rebellous act....it was a good year and a half before I actually was able to cry for my husband...

It could very well be that this family knows that they are no where near to closure in this and that their plight has just begun with their daughter being accused of Caylee's murder....I do not think that I would be able to get thru something like this....I wouldn't want to think that the child I brought into this world was capable of doing something like this....

We don't know Casey when she was born or was a little girl like Caylee...her parents do....we didn't see her take her first step and say her first words...her parents did.....

It has got to be very hard to get past those times and to come to terms that the child that you saw through all of her growing up turned into a murderer....Although I do not agree with how they handled this...at the same time I can not hate them for it...because I do not know for sure how I would be reacting to something this horrible...JMOO

[crimeq]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,6804558.story


"The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child"



Since we know that that Cindy wrote this it seems odd that she says "their beloved child" as opposed to our beloved grandaughter.
Maybe another swipe at Casey.

She was their beloved child -- I would like to see a return of the extended family, over the 50s nuclear family inception that isolated family members from each other -- I think much is to be gained by an extended family. In such a family, any child would be "our" beloved child.

[Barbara fl.]

ITA, I had no problem with George asking for prayers for Casey. I don't think that this was the time or the place for Cindy to go on about what a great loving mom Casey was though.



I also certainly agree with that part of it....it would have been better for them to just leave well enough alone....I don't expect them to stand up and say "my daughter is a cold blooded murder and should get the DP for what she did", but I also do not expect them to call her a good and loving mother.....or that Cayle was got her compassion from Casey....

It was not the place or time to be saying this.....JMOO

[desmom]

Psst...new thread

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=348939

[Libertie]

and when Cindy spoke about Casey, Lee rocked back and forth, took his hands out of his pockets, his left hand tounched his right wrist, ( like to adjusting his watch) then he brought his hands together infront of himself
When he mentioned CMA during the service, he kissed his right wrist several times. What do you think the significance is of his right wrist?

[tisamystery]

Are they going to air the memorial service again? I missed it - had to work.

[crimeq]

I believe this church will be criticized about this for a long time to come and rightly so. I agree with Mr.Grund, it's ashame the family could not have set aside their differences and personal grudges, so that he and his family, and others who also loved Caylee could have come and mourned her properly.

All that aside, I will say I do think it was a beautiful service apart from the unwanted list, and when Cindy said Caylee was so much like Casey. I had to turn the tv off when she said that it just upset me too much

I have certain differences with "organized religion" in our society, and what this church just allowed confirms that I don't need to change my mind.

I think it's sinful, if I may be allowed use of the word, that a large and significant church allowed a service where specific individuals were excluded. I used to be a Bible drill champ :-) (grew up in a fundamentalist Baptist home) and at one time could have quoted chapter and verse to support any view I hold. I didn't keep up with that skill ....

But what I believe is that this large Baptist church in Orlando just took hold of a huge media moment to cash in, on its own.

I could say more but I'll stop right there.

[crimeq]

I disagree. He never once mentioned CAylee's name yet in his statements before this he never once referred to Caylee as CMA.

Bingo. Lee had nothing to say about his murdered niece at her memorial. He was speaking in code to his incarcerated sister.

There has to be more to this to make it make sense ....

[*MoonRider*]

oooooo no they got murt.....

My guess is Sean klass sp?

[gaelicpeas]

Are they going to air the memorial service again? I missed it - had to work.Tis, go to this page and you will see the links to the full service:

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

[crimeq]

Why would he send a cryptic message to Casey who they say did not watch the service when he could just write her a letter, or go see her? Maybe everyone is reading way to much into this.


To fulfill HIS need, not hers. Speaks of some great pathology.

[SavannahStar]

I wonder if CW closed the wrong thread again accidentally?

Anyway, I'm going to answer this one here. Tried to over there and got "thread closed."

ITA it was odd, and I do wonder if he was speaking out to Casey, but I was just thinking, CMA might have been his pet name for Caylee.

That's possible. And I go back to the CMA on Caylee's wall. And it could have been a pet name too, that we have not heard.

Whenever my mom would write names down, of our family, she would always use our three initials, not our names. Like when she was making notes about stuff...........(yes, I do realize those are Casey's initials also).

And as a few others have pointed out, if he wanted to send a message to Casey, he could easily do it through Baez. And she supposedly wasn't going to watch the memorial anyway...what purpose would he possibly have in "talking" to her? Naw, I believe it was for Caylee.

[WillowInFlight]

What happened to part III..it's locked.

I don't know.

[sunbunny]

Anyone know what just happened to the other thread? :scared:

i think the rest of the posters got locked inside of it, too!! :scared:

[Myka]

When he mentioned CMA during the service, he kissed his right wrist several times. What do you think the significance is of his right wrist?

IDK, but when Cindy starts to talk about Casey, watch Lee..I just saw it again, he is messing w/ something on his right wrist

IIRC, he kissed his wrist twice......some ppl are saying it was once for Caylee and once for Casey

[SavannahStar]

I can picture them all beating on the glass with their fist begging CW to let them out. HA- that is funny. :biggrin:

:laugh: What an image.

I just figured the same thing happened as happened the other day. She maybe accidentally locked the wrong one.

Someone could PM her. I'm getting ready to go out for a bit.....

[Myka]

i think the rest of the posters got locked inside of it, too!! :scared:

ok good, it happened to you guys too.....whew!

[crimeq]

Did Cindy say that when Casey first told her that she was pregnant , cindy was ecstatic? Your teenager comes home pregnant and you are ecstatic. Was that another lie???

Especially when this daughter is sporting a 7-month pregnant bump and everyone else is telling Cindy that Casey is PG

and Cindy says NO, she'd have to have sex to be PG

and then a baby is born, oooops can't deny that out of existence

so did Cindy just learn that Casey was PG when the baby was born?

Methinks there was a whole other scenario here, and lots and lots and lots of fights over it in the House of Anthony

I do think Cindy melted when holding newborn Caylee in her arms, who wouldn't, but I think she gave Casey He** when she acknowledged the pregnancy -- as well as all the machinations to keep the father's ID secret -- the pregnancy was NOT a thrill to Cindy. When she held the born babe in her arms, yes, that was a thrill.

Once again, Cindy lies. IMO.

[n/t]

I wonder if CW closed the wrong thread again accidentally?

Anyway, I'm going to answer this one here. Tried to over there and got "thread closed."



That's possible. And I go back to the CMA on Caylee's wall. And it could have been a pet name too, that we have not heard.

Whenever my mom would write names down, of our family, she would always use our three initials, not our names. Like when she was making notes about stuff...........(yes, I do realize those are Casey's initials also).

And as a few others have pointed out, if he wanted to send a message to Casey, he could easily do it through Baez. And she supposedly wasn't going to watch the memorial anyway...what purpose would he possibly have in "talking" to her? Naw, I believe it was for Caylee.

IIRC he said something about making a promise to her...if it was Caylee what do you think he meant?

[marshmallow]

what did I post that was wrong? I went back to correct a couple of post errors and the thread's closed.

[sachae]

http://search.hp.my.aol.com/aol/search?fromPage=HPSidebar&query=casey+anthony+commisary

Thank you so very much, I was not sure if the public could see that, here in Ontario, I do not think we are able to see that.

[SavannahStar]

IIRC he said something about making a promise to her...if it was Caylee what do you think he meant?


"I promise I will always love you Caylee."

[Myka]

how many ppl think Casey watched the service on JB's laptop?

[n/t]

Did Cindy say that when Casey first told her that she was pregnant , cindy was ecstatic? Your teenager comes home pregnant and you are ecstatic. Was that another lie???

Yes she did. Casey had a glow. :huh:

[bchand]

what did I post that was wrong? I went back to correct a couple of post errors and the thread's closed.

I'm sure you didn't post anything wrong marshmallow.

This happened the other night too when CW closed the wrong thread?

We'll have to wait and see. Maybe whoever created that thread could pm CW and ask.

[magnolia]

You better believe it PP. This should have been open to all hearts who longed to say good-bye to that beautiful child. Adults should have put their differences aside and the HOUSE OF GOD should have been open to all for worship and paying their respects to CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

I will hazard to guess that because of the DESIRES of the ANTHONY FAMILY to SHOW THEIR SOLIDARITY, they didn't want any participation that could be construed as SEEKING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE in that church.

Shame on the LEADERS of the CHURCH who allowed for such negativity when the service itself was beautiful. What were they thinking with the UNINVITED LIST? This kind of criticism could have been easily avoided by having a small gathering that was invitation only IMO. I've never seen a memorial or a church who allowed for an UNINVITED LIST. Then again, I've never known of a situation like this either where the disappearance of a child has destroyed reputations of strangers to the family, had nothing to do with her disappearance, and yet the entire tragedy started in the home with the child being found not far from the backyard. :sad:

Terribly sad IMO.

The Anthonys have the right to invited or uninvited who they want. And the church made the right decision to respect their decision. "Churches" (people) do it all the time...at weddings, funerals, etc. Not everyone is welcomed at all church functions.

As opposed to what I heard from a local citizen today, Caylee is not part of anyone's family other than the Anthonys. That's it, except whoever the father's family is. I've heard it said time and time again, that Caylee is part of some stranger's family. The stranger has declared it so...but it's just not true. I've heard people on here claim Laci Peterson as their girl. That's likely not true either.

Whether or not to have a public memorial, invited certain people, what to do and say was not a group decision. It was the Anthonys and the leaders of the church obviously had no problem with their decisions.

Terribly sad that people think they can tell others what to do.

[Auburngirl]

Is there no one here who sees the irony in George asking folks to take a moment to write a little letter to Casey saying "hey Case, I was just thinking about you..." and yet NONE OF THE ANTHONY'S have bothered to visit their daughter or call their daughter in months?


I do January. I've wondered this afternoon if George planned on making the request for letters to her or not. I don't think so.

I want to send a piece of paper with nothing but a heart drawn on it.

[WillowInFlight]

"I promise I will always love you Caylee."

Or "Caylee I will never forget you"

[scillak]

IIRC he said something about making a promise to her...if it was Caylee what do you think he meant?

The only thing I can figure is that he promised never to forget her. He said something like .....I won't forget my promise to you. I won't forget. Who knows.

[Myka]

Is there no one here who sees the irony in George asking folks to take a moment to write a little letter to Casey saying "hey Case, I was just thinking about you..." and yet NONE OF THE ANTHONY'S have bothered to visit their daughter or call their daughter in months?

what are you suppose to say to her?

hey casey, heard you tried some cole slaw not to long ago, sorry no one is there to comfort you?

lol maybe Geo wants us to write her a letter and sign it Geo, Cindy & Lee?

[n/t]

how many ppl think Casey watched the service on JB's laptop?

Is he allowed a laptop in jail? I don't think she watched any of it. She couldn't care less, imo

[SavannahStar]

I have to say that you are entitled to what you believe, Savannah. And that's good. But this " he could easily do it through Baez" is wrong. Baez has cut her off from her family and has been doing that systematically for months now. She is not getting any messages through Baez from those people. He has a job to do and he is accomplishing that. It is to disengage his client emotionally so that he can have her mentally comfortable with throwing them under the bus if need be. I highly doubt he even allowed her to view the memorial. Even if he did, according to Nancy Grace, the jailers said she did not even request to view or listen to the memorial. That is Baez doing his job.

Other than that, if you want to believe that Lee is pure of heart in all of this, that is your prerogative. Carry on!

Now don't put words in my mouth January......"pure of heart" is not exactly how I'd describe Lee. I think you were taking a nap earlier, didn't you say?....anyway this afternoon I posted quite a bit about him. I won't repeat it all now though. Suffice to say I think he's a weird duck. Marches to the beat of a different drummer. Has A LOT of anger inside him. Anger at the cards life has dealt him, being in the middle of this nightmare.

I believe he loves his family dearly. And loved Caylee very, very much.

His "speech" today was just plain weird....but I'm not picking him apart to much because I think I can see where he's coming from. Lee is Lee.

I said similar things when people were talking about him refusing to give up his DNA without an order. Lee does what he wants and that was his way of saying, "screw you" to LE. He's filled with hatred and turmoil.

But I don't think he's guilty of anymore than just that. He doesn't seem a very "likeable" fellow, that's for sure. He's in a lot of pain, I think.

[?noanswer]

I started another Part III thread.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12765463#post12765463

I asked CW to delete it if she didn't approve. JMO

[bchand]

Is he allowed a laptop in jail? I don't think she watched any of it. She couldn't care less, imo

Yes he is and Nancy Grace's producer just confirmed that he "could" have shown her the service via his computer since it was live-streamed on the internet.

[n/t]

"I promise I will always love you Caylee."

It didn't come across that way to me. Promise to love her? Not to say you're wrong but why didn't he just say that if that's what he meant? Why would he say I'll never forget the promise I made to you. What promise?

[newsjunkie]

Thank you so very much, I was not sure if the public could see that, here in Ontario, I do not think we are able to see that.


I am in Ontario and I see it :confused:

[newsjunkie]

Yes she did. Casey had a glow. :huh:

Even though she wanted to give it up for adoption?

[crimeq]

---
I don't think that they were very happy that Caylee was found. I think that they were aware that Casey had murdered Caylee and did not want her body found. Maybe that is why they never thanked any of the searchers who were looking for a dead Caylee.


100% agree.

They knew, accepted it however they did but felt their own lives must go on, and the worst thing that could happen is that Caylee's body would surface.

I really think the Anthonys' mindset is, OK that happened, so now how do we make the best of it?

Our granddaughter died, we have such pain about it, how can we be compensated for going through this pain?

[?noanswer]

I am going to have to stick with my gut reaction and face the fact that he thought he was being smart by getting a message to KC. I don't think you are going to have to wait too long before whatever charges that were pending are followed thru on. Honestly though- he is a very angry man and has been for a while, so I only hope that someone recognizes this before he goes off the deep end himself. IMO

He does appear to be very angry and has looked that way for a while. He may need help more than G. JMO

[n/t]

Yes he is and Nancy Grace's producer just confirmed that he "could" have shown her the service via his computer since it was live-streamed on the internet.

I think the only reason Baez would let her watch would be to get something out of her. Perhaps get her hyped that her parents and brother were on TV. Remember when she mentioned Cindy's cameos? She sounded jealous. She was totally against this memorial per her statement. She wanted Caylee buried but the Anthonys cremated her.

There must be a strategy behind this, imo. Can't figure it out just yet.

[n/t]

Now we have 2 part 3's, a part3a, and a part 4:thumbsup:


:laugh:

I'll try again. I was locked out on one of part 3's.

[bchand]

I think the only reason Baez would let her watch would be to get something out of her. Perhaps get her hyped that her parents and brother were on TV. Remember when she mentioned Cindy's cameos? She sounded jealous. She was totally against this memorial per her statement. She wanted Caylee buried but the Anthonys cremated her.

There must be a strategy behind this, imo. Can't figure it out just yet.

Me neither. He'll spin it his way sooner or later.

Ok, I'm ready for the trial now. I'm hoping not to see any of the Anthonys from now til then.

[CANDYKISSES]

The Anthonys have the right to invited or uninvited who they want. And the church made the right decision to respect their decision. "Churches" (people) do it all the time...at weddings, funerals, etc. Not everyone is welcomed at all church functions.

As opposed to what I heard from a local citizen today, Caylee is not part of anyone's family other than the Anthonys. That's it, except whoever the father's family is. I've heard it said time and time again, that Caylee is part of some stranger's family. The stranger has declared it so...but it's just not true. I've heard people on here claim Laci Peterson as their girl. That's likely not true either.

Whether or not to have a public memorial, invited certain people, what to do and say was not a group decision. It was the Anthonys and the leaders of the church obviously had no problem with their decisions.

Terribly sad that people think they can tell others what to do.

Who knew it? Maybe Caylee's mother had the right idea and her wishes should have been followed to avoid the critiquing....:ohmy:

Oh well, I don't know of any weddings or funerals held in churches who advertise a "public funeral" or a "public wedding", only to have an UNINVITED LIST as well. :confused:

[bchand]

I just turned off HLN . that's it I have had enough of this saga.morning ,noon and night. What are they going to do after this is over. from 5 to 9 . Caylee, Casey, Cindy George lee, Geez, I am not going to watch it anymore. Jane and Nancy tonight will be torture. My daughter said she will not watch it with me. ma, change it please. my nerves are shattered. I will not HLN anymore but will read this forum for anything relevant. I have heard nothing but this memorial since 10 o'clock this morning, enough is enough. Isn't HLN embarrassed?

Whaaa? You mean you weren't up at 4 am watching people get in line?

[BobbisAngel]

I was wondering does anyone know if Tim Miller was on the Anthony's boycott list like the Grunds were?


Tim Miller wasn't on the list but he is deeply involved in another case and couldn't make it back for the memorial.

[Myka]

I think the only reason Baez would let her watch would be to get something out of her. Perhaps get her hyped that her parents and brother were on TV. Remember when she mentioned Cindy's cameos? She sounded jealous. She was totally against this memorial per her statement. She wanted Caylee buried but the Anthonys cremated her.

There must be a strategy behind this, imo. Can't figure it out just yet.

maybe JB told her Lee was going to send her a message

[islandgirl36542]

Is there no one here who sees the irony in George asking folks to take a moment to write a little letter to Casey saying "hey Case, I was just thinking about you..." and yet NONE OF THE ANTHONY'S have bothered to visit their daughter or call their daughter in months?

could they use web cams~JB & A's ?

[CANDYKISSES]

Yes he is and Nancy Grace's producer just confirmed that he "could" have shown her the service via his computer since it was live-streamed on the internet.

I have visions of her SCREAM FACE as her and Jose sit down with the laptop myself. :unsure: That face when her family does something she doesn't like is to be feared IMO. :scared:

[bchand]

could they use web cams~JB & A's ?

Good question. It's possible to do a live chat on his laptop. Don't know if the jail would approve it though.

[crimeq]

Hello

I do not think she was lying. I do think that her memory of the event has been romanticized. IMO it is not strange, considering many memories are never exactly how things happened. Caylee is gone and I think Cindy wants to remember every thing about her as positive and wonderful, including the very first time she heard of her existance.

jmho


Cindy didn't even acknowledge the presence of the growing child (Caylee) inside her 17 yo daughter.

Cindy was NOT happy about this growing child, at the time she became aware of it.

She adjusted. It's very hard to turn a blind eye or a closed heart to a brand new baby in your arms. But I think she did have the blind eye and closed heart before the reality of that living and breathing child, in her arms.

I suspect she was not AT ALL comfortable with Casey's unwed, teen pregnancy and took pretending that it didn't exist, to unprecedented levels.

This entire family is Master of Denial.

So of course Casey didn't kill Caylee.

[bchand]

I have visions of her SCREAM FACE as her and Jose sit down with the laptop myself. :unsure: That face when her family does something she doesn't like is to be feared IMO. :scared:

We'll never know, but IMO if she watched this service, she cried:

1. When Lee was speaking
2. When George said he missed his daughter

Not sure how she would react to Cindy's messages to her.

[aubrey04]

OOPS nevermind I have no clue where the new thread is - there are three open. :(

[CelticDawn]

You've got that right! If it was suspected to be illness..or MAYBE if she had thought she couldn't have children.
If my 17 y.o. came home with such an announcement, I'd smack her reset button!....and I'm not ANY sort of a proponent of smacking your kids or being ugly with them in any way!
was nineteen, paying my own way in life and college when I got PG, and my mother STILL did slap me, full in the face and gave me a full dressing down as well. That wasn't right or fair, but I think it is typical!
I'm not surprised that Cindy chose to not only rewrite history to her liking, but to try and sell it to the public. This is the woman who told us we will someday want to vote Casey MOTY! It's is just her normal way of operating and dealing with parts of life that she doesn't like...at least the things we have seen ourselves and heard reported indicate that it is.
JMO.
same here
we hid out and had to use cousins as diplomats....were still living under Mom and Dads fatwah til we "made things right" ...:chicken:


cindy ...as obnoxious as she is probably was extremely disappointed and ashamed....and with the personality that she has.....things kinda went haywire and never got straight again

[n/t]

Me neither. He'll spin it his way sooner or later.

Ok, I'm ready for the trial now. I'm hoping not to see any of the Anthonys from now til then.

Me too, bchand!! Time for the trial now. Caylee is laid to rest, people paid their respects either in public or private. It's now time for justice for Caylee Marie Anthony. She died a horrific death. Somehow that was lost in this memorial. I think it's sad. She did not die from natural causes. She was MURDERED.

[Janz]

I think they do understand that she is not playing ball with them anymore and that's where the panic comes in and the pleading by Lee. Those tears were not the tears of a man that misses his beloved sister, those tears were the tears of a man who is afraid that his sister is about to spill some huge secret she is keeping for him. That's my take on it. I think they both hold secrets for each other. I think his promise to her was that he would never tell and vice versa hers but I think she is about to tell hers and he knows it. He's :chicken:

That's why the focus for Lee today was on Casey and not Caylee. Manipulation via guilt.

January, I agree with ya, and am really sick and tired to death of G and C trying to manipulate public opinion in favor of their murdering daughter. I hope to hear no more from them until trial, but I just know when a very little time goes by, they will be back in front of any camera they can find.....

[Myka]

I think that JB would be more than stupid if he decided to play carrier pigeon between the Anthony's and his client. First off, he needs to emotionally detangle her from them so she can blame them in some way for this tragedy. Second, it's not his job to carry messages back and forth between these people. His only concern should be his client, and his client ONLY.

Why would he be so stupid?

how long did it take him to pass the bar exam?

[Neffy]

Cindy didn't even acknowledge the presence of the growing child (Caylee) inside her 17 yo daughter.

Cindy was NOT happy about this growing child, at the time she became aware of it.

She adjusted. It's very hard to turn a blind eye or a closed heart to a brand new baby in your arms. But I think she did have the blind eye and closed heart before the reality of that living and breathing child, in her arms.

I suspect she was not AT ALL comfortable with Casey's unwed, teen pregnancy and took pretending that it didn't exist, to unprecedented levels.

This entire family is Master of Denial.

So of course Casey didn't kill Caylee.

OH hale no. Enbracing the fact that your unmarried single daughter is going to give birth in a few months is another of the last straws in the Cindy lies. GEEZ! I wish this were the last straw.

[n/t]

maybe JB told her Lee was going to send her a message

Could be. The statement he made about not foregetting the promise he made to CMA has me puzzled.

[??WHATthe??]

OMGoodness!!!

Where is everyone???? I was in this thread... called #3... and then, it was like the twilight zone... everyone was gone, and I was just chattin it up with myself... I kept hitting refresh... refresh... refresh...

But nothing... I think I'm lost right about now...:blink:

[n/t]

I'm hiding out on this thread until someone tells me where to go.:unsure:

[crimeq]

Exactly....that is just how I saw it....The murderer is behind bars...the family did not murder Caylee....Casey did....I find no reason to blame them for this horrible thing.....

Unless we have walked in their shoes, we can not say for sure what we would do....I do not THINK I would act like them, I do no THINK i would try and cover for my daughter...I would like to think that I would only stand by my child and not say a word....but I am not them....

I know when my husband passed away...my son was only 13 and he was very close to his father...he started acting out almost immediately, that I didn't have time to grieve my husbands passing, I was too busy keeping up with my sons next rebellous act....it was a good year and a half before I actually was able to cry for my husband...

It could very well be that this family knows that they are no where near to closure in this and that their plight has just begun with their daughter being accused of Caylee's murder....I do not think that I would be able to get thru something like this....I wouldn't want to think that the child I brought into this world was capable of doing something like this....

We don't know Casey when she was born or was a little girl like Caylee...her parents do....we didn't see her take her first step and say her first words...her parents did.....

It has got to be very hard to get past those times and to come to terms that the child that you saw through all of her growing up turned into a murderer....Although I do not agree with how they handled this...at the same time I can not hate them for it...because I do not know for sure how I would be reacting to something this horrible...JMOO

Barbara, thank you for this. I wonder how parents cope, when their child has done something so abominable that it cannot be condoned ... and I have no answer for that ... for each parent, their child was that little one who took first steps and said first words.

I don't know. There must be tremendous denial for a parent to disavow that their child committed a truly heinous deed, in this case murdering a darling young baby ... I don't know how coping is possible.

I "think" the Anthonys should know or accept more than they do, by now, because it's so apparent. But wishing won't make it so--so at what point do the parents cry "uncle"?

But I think there must be some humility in that, and I don't see anything like humility or acceptance in the Anthony family, in fact I see quite the opposite.

[BobbisAngel]

Yup. It sounds like NG believes he was talking about Casey, not Caylee.

:thumbdown:


If he had been talking to Caylee he would have just said "Caylee Marie......." He wouldn't have tried to be so sneaky and so obvious at the same time. Why didn't he just send her a card or letter!!!!! Caylee's memorial wasn't the place for that. Shame on him. Guess everyone knows where he stands now without a doubt.

[Myka]

According to what I read, he passed the bar on his first try. It took him 8 years to decide to pursue a career in law AFTER being in another career which I can't recall what exactly that was. I know a few lawyers who had late starts, one of which is a woman who decided to go to law school at age 50 after her kids left the nest. Another was a man in his late 40's who decided to pursue his legal career after being in insurance sales for decades. It is not an oddity nor is it something to be ashamed of deciding to pursue a career in law after trying something else. Why do you ask this question?

I read somewhere it took him 8 yrs to pass the bar. But I do hear what you are saying about his plan to keep her away from everyone. She HAS been detached from her family for some time now

[marshmallow]

I'm hiding out on this thread until someone tells me where to go.:unsure:

me too .. . . ..

[nothingnew]

I can only speak for myself and what I would do if this was my daughter. I wouldn't give a flying fig what the officials/guards said. I would still show up there every day, sign in and be sent home only AFTER someone comes to me and says point blank "your daughter is refusing your visit". Fine I will come back again tomorrow and try again. Are the Anthony's doing that? Ummmmmm. nope.

If the jail officials went against caseys wishes baez would have a field day with "my client is being harassed after specifically requesting not to be bothered. caseys rights are being trampled, yada yada" (something like that and not just in english but in espanol because he is out there representing). I also doubt it would benefit cindy and george to be shown loitering at a jail with the media taking videos for Nancy to yell "WHY?" at every night on her show. I think if an 'innocent until proven guilty' inmate has a "Do Not Disturb" sign hanging on their door then you do not violate their 'rights' and 'peace of mind' by telling them "cindy anthony is waiting downstairs for ya!" jmo
I'm not a jail visitor but I don't think you get to be seated at a booth unless you have an appointment, parent or not. Not sure but I am not going down to the local jail to find out, although I am sure there are lovely people there as well.

[bchand]

there are 4 now

I'm staying here til CW sorts it out. lol

[n/t]

If he had been talking to Caylee he would have just said "Caylee Marie......." He wouldn't have tried to be so sneaky and so obvious at the same time. Why didn't he just send her a card or letter!!!!! Caylee's memorial wasn't the place for that. Shame on him. Guess everyone knows where he stands now without a doubt.

2 thoughts come to mind when he said he won't forget the promise and that's why I also believe that he was addressing Casey when he referred to CMA

1) Casey confessed to him and he promised never to tell.

2) He promised to go down with her. Maybe he had some involvement in either the murder or cover up.

His parents may not even know about it.

[~layla~]

hi everyone.... miss being here and so many of you!! ... pc still in a coma... maybe in a week or so Ill find out if its able to live on or if I need to pull the plug... even then replacing will take a few months... hopefully before trial!!

Anyway... WOW... What a mess of a memorial.
Cindys first words were again... about HER!
UGH.
Lee... WTH? CMA... did he think he was being stealth? Cuz he sucks at it.

and uhhh Geo... I dont think most of us would write Casey any words of comfort.... So stop asking us to believe in her fantasy world.

There is so many things that have been on my mind... and Ive been reading for a bit, you guys said them all.

Caylee .... Ill always remember her life.

PS .. eta... Do yall think JB went to the jail to let her watch via his laptop/live feed? (that way no one knows what she sees or emotes from it?)

[~layla~]

I'm staying here til CW sorts it out. lol

LOL I went out there and saw the mess and came back... and Im a huge proponent of New Threads.

[Neffy]

hi everyone.... miss being here and so many of you!! ... pc still in a coma... maybe in a week or so Ill find out if its able to live on or if I need to pull the plug... even then replacing will take a few months... hopefully before trial!!

Anyway... WOW... What a mess of a memorial.
Cindys first words were again... about HER!
UGH.
Lee... WTH? CMA... did he think he was being stealth? Cuz he sucks at it.

and uhhh Geo... I dont think most of us would write Casey any words of comfort.... So stop asking us to believe in her fantasy world.

There is so many things that have been on my mind... and Ive been reading for a bit, you guys said them all.

Caylee .... Ill always remember her life.

:seeya:

Can everyone write to Casey. CMA, CMA, CAM, from the first day I heard of the pregnancy..........MY PRESENT it was the best, other kidnapped and missing children.

Gimme a break! NONE OF IT'S REAL. I believe they thought because no one objected that everyone believed them.

Lee's about as sneeky as Casey was pullling this off. They're all like that unbelievable.

[Myka]

:seeya:

Can everyone write to Casey. CMA, CMA, CAM, from the first day I heard of the pregnancy..........MY PRESENT it was the best, other kidnapped and missing children.

Gimme a break! NONE OF IT'S REAL. I believe they thought because no one objected that everyone believed them.

Lee's about as sneeky as Casey was pullling this off. They're all like that unbelievable.

was Lee reading from a lap top?

[~layla~]

was Lee reading from a lap top?

yes.


:seeya:

Can everyone write to Casey. CMA, CMA, CAM, from the first day I heard of the pregnancy..........MY PRESENT it was the best, other kidnapped and missing children.

Gimme a break! NONE OF IT'S REAL. I believe they thought because no one objected that everyone believed them.

Lee's about as sneeky as Casey was pullling this off. They're all like that unbelievable.
Girl! They so suck at code. Seriously a 6y/o could figure that out. He kiss the rubber bracelet twice... once for Casey. PFFT. They just irk me.
Oh and Cindys fake azz-ness... Ooooo I wanted to reach in and slap her.

[legalmania]

I thought the memorial ceremony was done with respect and dignity. It was all about Caylee as it was suppose to be. So I want to dedicate this song to you Caylee because this was your day.

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Now playing: Bette Midler - Wind Beneath My Wings (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/bette_midler/track/wind_beneath_my_wings)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[Janz]

:seeya:

Can everyone write to Casey. CMA, CMA, CAM, from the first day I heard of the pregnancy..........MY PRESENT it was the best, other kidnapped and missing children.

Gimme a break! NONE OF IT'S REAL. I believe they thought because no one objected that everyone believed them.
Lee's about as sneeky as Casey was pullling this off. They're all like that unbelievable.

Exactly, Neffy. I am outraged at HLN and all the sympathy for this family of "grifters". HLN should be ashamed, good grief are they all trying to "kiss up", because of NG and the lawsuit by the Trenton Duckett family??

[Neffy]

was Lee reading from a lap top?

LOL! Not to my knowledge why would you think that?

[Loves2Read]

2 thoughts come to mind when he said he won't forget the promise and that's why I also believe that he was addressing Casey when he referred to CMA

1) Casey confessed to him and he promised never to tell.

2) He promised to go down with her. Maybe he had some involvement in either the murder or cover up.

His parents may not even know about it.

Very interesting ...... That could be a possibility.

[Neffy]

Exactly, Neffy. I am outraged at HLN and all the sympathy for this family of "grifters". HLN should be ashamed, good grief are they all trying to "kiss up", because of NG and the lawsuit by the Trenton Duckett family??

I don't think NG's stance is because the Ducket case. O/T but IMO Duckett's mother was a timebomb waiting to blow as soon as she got closed in. It just happened to be Nancy.

I haven't read anything today on this memorial sham. Is anything being written. Yes, they are the grifters. Falsely accusing others, falsely taking up causes to divert attention from what really happened.

[breezie]

LOL! Not to my knowledge why would you think that?

he had a laptop up there with him. Wonder if he was IM'ing Casey...er Baez.

[Janz]

camera + $$$$$ that is Cindy's philosophy. remembe all my fellow posters, that this woman who wants our respect told the FBI that she suspected Amy and or Jessie or murdering /kidnapping Caylee. Think about it. How rotten, evil can a human being be? I am suppossed to watch this family today and grieve for them.? I grieve for caylee and her papa. This production today was for the benefit of the anthony family, it spells media coverage, media exposure, = celebrity=$$$$

Right there with you, gogo. Nah, this woman doesn`t have me fooled, she who told us to Get off our azzes and find Caylee, called people maggots and then went on to implicate even the Grunds.

[grammaw]

I thought the memorial ceremony was done with respect and dignity. It was all about Caylee as it was suppose to be. So I want to dedicate this song to you Caylee because this was your day.

----------------
Now playing: Bette Midler - Wind Beneath My Wings (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/bette_midler/track/wind_beneath_my_wings)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

The music and prayers were great,the words about casey----GRRRRRR.I hope the prayers will help her tho,but somehow.....

[Loves2Read]

camera = $$$$$ that is Cindy's philosophy. remember all my fellow posters, that this woman who wants our respect told the FBI that she suspected Amy and or Jessie of murdering /kidnapping Caylee. Think about it. to throw LE off Casey, knowing Casey murdered Caylee, she threw them under the bus. she was ready to accuse innocent people. How rotten, evil can a human being be? I am suppossed to watch this family today and grieve for them.? I grieve for caylee and her papa. This production today was for the benefit of the anthony family, it spells media coverage, media exposure, = celebrity=$$$$

You have made some very good points in this post. IMO

[Neffy]

he had a laptop up there with him. Wonder if he was IM'ing Casey...er Baez.

OH your kidding. I missed that! I had to get some work done so I just had the sound on in another screen and I'd pop over when I was able to take a peek.

Geez. That's as bad as having your cell phone ring if that's what he was doing.

[Neffy]

It was sitting on the podium Neff-


:thumbsup:

Tx up to speed now

[Janz]

I don't think NG's stance is because the Ducket case. O/T but IMO Duckett's mother was a timebomb waiting to blow as soon as she got closed in. It just happened to be Nancy.

I haven't read anything today on this memorial sham. Is anything being written. Yes, they are the grifters. Falsely accusing others, falsely taking up causes to divert attention from what really happened.

I agree with you about TD`s mother, but can find no other excuse for HLN.

[Neffy]

he had a laptop up there with him. Wonder if he was IM'ing Casey...er Baez.

Did anyone catch him typing? Geez I'd say this is astonshing but there's no end to lowering that dignity bar with them.

[debkay]

Did anyone catch him typing? Geez I'd say this is astonshing but there's no end to lowering that dignity bar with them.

Maybe they had their privet meeting after all??? Could they have had the web cam so they could all see each other??

[legalmania]

Did anyone catch him typing? Geez I'd say this is astonshing but there's no end to lowering that dignity bar with them.

The have lap tops that both have voice activation and automatic web cams installed in the top.