TUESDAY, FEB.10th, PART2

[SavannahStar]

agreed, I think Lee was asking for the truth, what exactly took place that night/day. Only one person can give them that truth and she hasn't done so yet. I think he also has no love for the media and knew they would speculate wildly as to the "CMA" and that may give him some satisfaction.

George knows, he is steadying himself for the task ahead, testifying in court.

CIndy knows too, she just is desperate to believe Casey loved Caylee, and that whatever happened was an accident. She doesn't want to or can't face the fact that perhaps Casey just didn't care.

GREAT POST, IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I bolded and underlined: you hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!

Lee is a very angry young man. And a VERY "odd duck." But I think you have him pegged correctly.

[bballgrl]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No. They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO


Of course they shouldn't stop LOVING her.... just stop defending her and trying to make US love her! :w00t:

[Regina.Lampert]

ITA with you postergeist

we DON'T know that caylee was cremated (the reports conflict, some say yes others say no)

Lee was NOT asked to go get jewelry, George was

I looked at the jewelry that was visible on each of them (i enlarged the pics) and the bracelet lee has on doesnt look to me like it has any locket on it... it looks like leather and chain

I did not see a locket that looked like it would hold ashes on george

I dont know why some people are jumping to the conclusion that it's creamation jewelry and they were all wearing it.

Please whoever says they can SEE that it's cremation jewelry with lockets for ashes please post the pictures that make that so clear to you because I'd like to see them and I can't find any such pics after looking at a ton of pics.


Joan, since you enlarged the bracelet he wore, does it look anything like this:



http://www.evrmemories.com/narrow-titanium-urn-keepsake-bracelet-p/evr509tn.htm

[daHawg]

I would have sworn cremated. But now with out a link...
anyone?

He states her remains are still at the funeral home not at the Anthony home and that they will not be at the service. He does not say anything about cremation.

about 2:56 in the video and 5:38 as well.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html

[Neffy]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO

They haven't left it at that. Unconditional love. They've named other people as the kidnapper/murderer, they're insisting this was a kidnapping and the refuse to show any kind of decency or humbleness. They've used this as a platform to start a career in an organization for missing children which is not even the case.

They are so far fetched in their stories it's almost laughable until you realize this is about a senseless murder and they've done nothing to get to the bottom of why their granddaughter was murdered. They distracted from the real public issue. Parents that kill and try to get away with it.

[Barbara fl.]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO


Very well put.....I actually took up the memorial as the Anthony's asking for forgiveness for Casey (at least George was)....I didn't hear once that they were proclaiming her being innocent....

Againg, I would not want to be in their shoes.....

[sailordog]

Cindy's stroking of Lee's back while he spoke and her half smile looked contrived - like it was for the cameras. She doesn't have a genuine emotion in her body. Not since that initial 911 call.

[FrankieBones1]

The turnout was much smaller than expected and I guess those "wackos" from Kansas never showed up.moI'm glad the Kansas Wackjobs stayed home. I think a good majority of the audience was the regular congregation.

[taylor63]

I still find it terribly crass that there was no mention of TES in the eulogy where KIDFINDERS was mentioned, not to mentioned the suggested donation list.

For that I am :blushing:for Cindy as she has continued to show a low level of humanity while professing to have found hope, faith and love in GOD. I hope some day she reaches down deep and expresses gratitude to all those who helped her family with Tim Miller on the list too. JMO.


I felt the same way. I could tell Mr. Miller really cared about little Caylee and his first priority was to find her little body, so she could have a proper burial. So sad that has not happened yet. I just wonder if he was on the boycott list along with Leonard Padilla,the Grund family,Mark Klass and other people who dared to badmouth Casey.

[Lilly12]

I don't really get the whole family speaking thing personally since I'm Catholic and we have mass and let the Priest speak. (we don't even do contemporary music either)
So of course, I'm especially perplexed at having a memorial service and then speaking about the accused murderer. The CMA thing, write letters to Casey, shamrocks, and Cindy preaching to us and thanking Casey just ....:blink: I ... I'm all buggered up.

I loved the video of Caylee but forgive me for saying, I think its creepy to have Michael Jackson near even a living child much less using his music for a child's memorial.

I am Catholic as well. My mothers three grandsons spoke at her Mass . It was beautiful. My moms name was Rose, and I will never forget this line from her grandson, he said like the rose she had her thorns too.
moo

[FrankieBones1]

Nancy Grace will replay the service at 4:30pm today.

[NikkiG77058]

anymore disrespectful than a preacher crying out to Cindy, "sing it, girl!"

Are you kidding?? Um, I think that's my queue to come back a different day...what a joke!

For Cayleee :rose:

[newsjunkie]

Your opinion is most likely correct.....I believe that Casey didn't want to watch the memorial because it would have showed her the attention that Caylee's was receiving once again....while she is sitting in jail....


Casey got PO'd when she heard that her parents had a dinner at their home of " Chili" Casey's favorite dish......so can you just imagine how PO'd she is about this memorial for her "daughter" and she is sitting in jail.......

Where is belongs, might I add.......JMOO


I believe Casey did watch the memorial, on JB's laptop!
He was there at that exact time and for that purpose IMO.

[Mimi428]

Some things are just obvious (like who murdered Caylee)....They all were wearing lockets and were holding them and kissing them during the service....

Recently, Cindy had asked Lee to go get the jewelry.....We know Caylee was cremated...and we know the jewelry that was purchased was "funeral Jewelry".....So my conclusion is that they all carried part of Caylee's remains, which would be very appropriate.......JMOO

I disagree that it is obvious that the jewelry contains cremains.

I spent several days last week looking at bereavement jewelry & there are plenty of similar items that are NOT going to hold cremains. Pictures, locks of hair, special engraved dedications, etc.

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, IOW.

JMO

[aubrey04]

Personally, I don't think that is what anyone was expecting. I think that most (if not all of us) were hoping that they could just keep the focus on Caylee. There was no reason to throw in the please for forgiveness for Casey, or the request for the public to WRITE to Casey... that is what is so disgusting. 90% of the public believes that Casey murdered her baby..... why glorify the murderer at the MEMORIAL. To me that is in POOR TASTE. JMO

To beg the public to write to the murderer of the victim - at the victim's memorial is just over the top. There would be no memorial if Casey hadn't have killed little Caylee.

As someone said earlier - the Anthony's had a chance to really redeem themselves today and they blew it. I was crying hard during Lee's speech until the end when I started to realize that C.M.A. was most likely NOT Caylee, but he was referring to Casey.

Cindy was gushing over Caylee's murderer, Casey - her beauty and how much she loved Caylee.yada yada yada.. What a bunch of garbage.

[8BellesFan]

Cindy's stroking of Lee's back while he spoke and her half smile looked contrived - like it was for the cameras. She doesn't have a genuine emotion in her body. Not since that initial 911 call.

the first thought that came to my mind was Edgar Bergan and Charlie McCarthy...the hand controls the mouth...

[SavannahStar]

Very well put.....I actually took up the memorial as the Anthony's asking for forgiveness for Casey (at least George was)....I didn't hear once that they were proclaiming her being innocent....

Againg, I would not want to be in their shoes.....

Addressing what I bolded: that is an excellent point, Barbara!

[Barbara fl.]

Thanks for you reply......I can understand being curious.....

Of course that last comment is ridiculous.....and if it ever happened you can opine all you want.



That is probably why she wanted Caylee buried...so she can eventually be forgotten about before she gets out of jail (so she thinks she is getting out).....Casey can not stand all the attention that has been given to Caylee....it is ripping her apart inside....and for that I am glad....I don't usually like to see revenge but this case is different....there is no doubt in my mind that she murdered her daughter because she hated her just that much....her pretense of loving her child was a charade...

No loving mother that murdered her child in a fit of anger or in any other way....would be fighting to get off....no loving mother would have the strength to try and fight the charge....they would just throw themselves at the mercy of the court and take whatever punishment was coming to them......because a real loving parent would not want to even live after something like this and they would welcome punishment in any form......JMOO

[sailordog]

I also find it odd that Casey said (through Jose yesterday) "I miss Caylee" that's it.

Wouldn't you say, "My heart is broken, my world is over, my life will never be the same?" Something more heartfelt? I KNOW I would.

Cripes, she can't even "fake" love for Caylee.

[Barbara fl.]

I believe Casey did watch the memorial, on JB's laptop!
He was there at that exact time and for that purpose IMO.


I believe he was there so that at the trial he can say that he had to comfort her.....JMOO

[8BellesFan]

It was so creepy I was floored and instantly knew he was talking to his little "sister" not Caylee Marie Anothony. Talk about reducing someone to an abbreviation....it was horrible.

CMA, I will never forget that. He is off tilt.

Kat

the one day that was for Caylee and Caylee alone he didn't say her name. I don't care how much he was shaking or crying, it didn't seem like it was for Caylee. He may be incomplete but not because Caylee is gone..moo

[aubrey04]

Yeah, and too bad that show of solidarity is not a two way street, because I have been saying for weeks now that Baez is preparing her mentally to roll over on her family to save her own hide. Last night's statement against her family was the green light. And let the games begin.

I've thought that as well. The nanny story just won't work and soon Baez/Linda Kenney Baden are going to realize it, especially LKB.. Who else can they pin this on? I suspect it will be George.

jmo, of course.

[Rigeljo]

I have never been to a funeral where the priest did not do all the talking. However, this is a memorial service so there is a huge difference. It is supposed to be an opportunity for those that knew the deceased to pay oral tribute to him or her and most of the time the pulpit is open to anyone that wants to come up and speak. This was not a mass, not a funeral. Only a memorial service. And unfortunately it was used as a spring board to garner sympathy for Casey. Too bad Casey isn't playing along with that game.

I just had a wild thought.......Maybe Lee is angry because they believe Casey is about to roll over on her family and this was the only venue for the family to tell her that they aren't rolling on her and she should not roll on them....That very well could have been the type of promise a family member would make....

[kellabeck]

So was the entire service broadcast? I tivo'd HLN starting at noon and NG was showing highlights. Does anyone know if it's going to be put up on youtube?

I too, see Lee's statement, the bit I have seen anyway, as very bizarre. I have never heard his calling Caylee "CMA" before and I do see his statement as code to Casey.

[Postergeist]

Yes and I also noticed that he did not applaud at the endings of the songs for Caylee. I saw the anger in his face, the distance, his g/f gripping his arm and yet no affection toward her either and leaning out and away from his mother. No I did not see any arms draped around his mother, as the other poster said. I will take a second look tonight when it's posted on YouTube.

January- you don't have to wait to see it on YouTube.

The service videos are all contained here, I've posted this link earlier for others to see- it has the footage and still photos from the service.

If you care to see the Anthonys speak, it's video Part 3

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

on the left of the page are the links

Anthony Family Speaks At Emotional Caylee Memorial
Hundreds of mourners remembered Caylee Anthony in a music-filled service Tuesday. Full Story ››
UNEDITED MEMORIAL: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4
MEMORIAL CLIPS: Anthonys Speak | Caylee Video
IMAGES: Inside Memorial Service | Mourners Arrive
MEMORIAL PROGRAM: Read Memorial Program

[newsjunkie]

the one day that was for Caylee and Caylee alone he didn't say her name. I don't care how much he was shaking or crying, it didn't seem like it was for Caylee. He may be incomplete but not because Caylee is gone..moo


He looked bizarre, hostile and full of contempt IMO

[Heyes]

He states her remains are still at the funeral home not at the Anthony home and that they will not be at the service. He does not say anything about cremation.

about 2:56 in the video and 5:38 as well.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html
Thank you!
I guess I heard it from one of the news shows?

[desmom]

I don't know if I buy the CMA being code-speak. She had a big CMA initial wall hanging in her room, and maybe it was just his little nickname for her. When I was in HS my nickname was my initials. I would think that if he wanted to get a message to Casey, he would just do it through Jose.


CMA may be a nickname his nickname for Caylee. You can watch Lee at http://www.wftv.com/video/18682272/index.html

Lee said, "CMA each day you continue to teach me about life and about the way it should be lived. Each day you give me the ability to be strong or to be weak. It has been so long since I have been able to see you or to hug you or how to tell you how much you mean me. CMA I miss you. I love you. CMA I am so proud of you. I hope you are proud of me too. I need you to know that I will never forget the promise that I made to you. I will never forget."

jmo

[kate482000]

Newbie here, but have lurked since July. Like others here, I've been compelled to follow this very, very sad and tragic story. Reading your posts daily since then, giving me different insights and thoughts. I had hoped today would be a day peace for Caylee... FOR Caylee. I too had to link up at work and watch the memorial. I had such mixed emotions about watching it but I felt the need to see if this family would be true to their word (by that I mean having a memorial FOR CAYLEE) where we would hear sweet stories of this beautiful precious child. I'm sorry to say that I could not bear to listen to the family after Cindy started speaking. I tried to believe that this would be only about Caylee, but they tore that thought from me after Lee, George and Cindy spoke. I'm sorry I watched this memorial as I would have been better off keeping Caylee in my thoughts throughout this day. Sorry for rambling. It just makes me so sad.

It was beautiful up till the A's spoke and then I had to tune them out...

[need2no]

I think that Jose has been blocking his client from that family for a long time. And another thing, I am starting to sense that Casey is wanting to be found guilty. She makes no attempt, no effort to tell the public (a potential jury pool) that she loved her baby or that she is innocent and did not kill her baby. Jose Baez and his sidekick Linda K. Baden are the only ones so far coming out publically saying they "believe their client is innocent" Notice the wording. Not "our client is innocent" but "we believe our client is innocent" big difference. The Anthony's attorney came out the other day saying they don't know what they believe anymore. I think that he was speaking the truth and then something turned them around. I don't know if it is Cindy trying to put on a solid front or Baez reaming them that if they don't get on board they will lose their daugther forever, but something has turned this family from being on the verge of doubting the innocent of their daughter to using their granddaughter's memorial as a springboard to put on a case for Casey.

I suspect the statement about the Anthony's not knowing what to think anymore, and Conway's media confirmation of the same was nothing more than a way to pump up sales for The People mag which was claiming the A's are no longer convinced casey didn't kill Caylee.
Of course anyone who read the mag saw that statement was waaaayyy
exaggerated.

Media blitz....

[sailordog]

I just had a wild thought.......Maybe Lee is angry because they believe Casey is about to roll over on her family and this was the only venue for the family to tell her that they aren't rolling on her and she should not roll on them....That very well could have been the type of promise a family member would make....

What speaks to that theory is the line where he said "CMA I am very proud of you - I hope you are proud of me."

DUH - it JUST occured to me that Casey's initials are CMA too - DUH! Ok - I "get" why people say codespeak now!! *smacking myself in the head!*

[Barbara fl.]

I disagree that it is obvious that the jewelry contains cremains.

I spent several days last week looking at bereavement jewelry & there are plenty of similar items that are NOT going to hold cremains. Pictures, locks of hair, special engraved dedications, etc.

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, IOW.

JMO



I'm not trying to be a defense attorney trying to convince a jury....I gave my opinion of what I thought would be most logical of funeral jewelry.....lockets that carry "lockets of hair" or other items would not be considered funeral jewelry....because some people put the first locket of hair cut from their child as a keep sake also....or other such items....

but I would consider "funeral jewelry" as being something that would carry ashes and would be the most logical in this family as they can all carry Caylee near them......but AGAIN...this is JMOO

[DeeN]

I am also not going to watch Nancy Grace tonight.

Also, I think it's wonderful that only about 25% of those they thought would show up showed up.

How many of those were with the media?????? Probably close to a half.

What I will watch. Is the trial of Casey for murdering Caylee. :thumbdown:



I thought some of you were being pretty hateful toward the anthonys' for the memorial service before it evan started.
It was beautiful until they spoke GA was doing good until he said write her evan if it is just to say hi,!
Listen again to what they say, they spoke one thing of the baby and the rest was about Casey.
What do they want for eveyone to totally forgive eveything and let her go home? Yeah CA would be so loving then.
Of course this is all my own opinion.

[PROPROS]

To beg the public to write to the murderer of the victim - at the victim's memorial is just over the top. There would be no memorial if Casey hadn't have killed little Caylee.

As someone said earlier - the Anthony's had a chance to really redeem themselves today and they blew it. I was crying hard during Lee's speech until the end when I started to realize that C.M.A. was most likely NOT Caylee, but he was referring to Casey.

Cindy was gushing over Caylee's murderer, Casey - her beauty and how much she loved Caylee.yada yada yada.. What a bunch of garbage.
I thought the service was beautiful up until that point...Also, mentioning how much Caylee was like Casey...Caylee represents everything good and innocent...Casey everything bad and evil!mo

[daHawg]

Thank you!
I guess I heard it from one of the news shows?
You're welcome. Personally I don't trust anything the attorneys are telling the press.:glare:

[*MoonRider*]

I'm glad you put your JMOO in there, as IMO I did not see George wearing a locket or holding one or kissing one during the service. I saw him use a hankerchief to wipe away tears.

You saw them all doing that and wearing the jewelry today, I didn't however see anything that I would specifically identify as being adornments that hold the incinerated remains of a human.

I don't have x-ray vision to see what they are wearing under their dress shirts and undershirts and Cindy had asked GEORGE to pick out jewelry (per media reports and per their attorney Brad Conway), I wasn't aware that Lee had been asked to go on that shopping mission.

And I don't know that her remains were cremated- I've heard Lenny say he "heard that" and I've heard Baez's reading of the statement from his client. I've yet to see any confirmation of that, other than your posts here.

George said "I have a locket right now with me, and it has has my sunshine, my Caylee ON it " I took it to mean it held a photo of his granddaughter- you say it holds cremains.

imo

Here is the police incident report regard George's suicide attempt.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3737535/george-anthony-incident-report-SUICIDE-attempt

It mentions funeral jewelry.

[need2no]

I just had a wild thought.......Maybe Lee is angry because they believe Casey is about to roll over on her family and this was the only venue for the family to tell her that they aren't rolling on her and she should not roll on them....That very well could have been the type of promise a family member would make....

I don't find your thought wild at all.

[Mimi428]

but what other reason would George have to buy funeral jewelry? I think it is pretty obvious the jewelry is going to be used for Caylee's ashes. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Just common sense.


<snipped>

Do a Google search on "bereavement jewelry" & you get about 24,000 hits - & a whole lot of the items are NOT the kind that can hold cremains. The crystal teardrop is very common, for example.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22bereavement+jewelry%22&btnG=Search

Here one version of the crystal teardop on a heart-shaped pendant.

http://www.collectiblestoday.com/ct/product/prdid-111543001.jsp

[8BellesFan]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

[newsjunkie]

What speaks to that theory is the line where he said "CMA I am very proud of you - I hope you are proud of me."

DUH - it JUST occured to me that Casey's initials are CMA too - DUH! Ok - I "get" why people say codespeak now!! *smacking myself in the head!*


Who in their right mind would speak to a small child using CMA? Of course it was codespeak :ohmy:

edited to add I just used your quote to post sailor...I hope you don't bruise easily :)

[Barbara fl.]

So was the entire service broadcast? I tivo'd HLN starting at noon and NG was showing highlights. Does anyone know if it's going to be put up on youtube?

I too, see Lee's statement, the bit I have seen anyway, as very bizarre. I have never heard his calling Caylee "CMA" before and I do see his statement as code to Casey.


The big part that threw it off as being directed to Casey...was the part where he said "I'm so proud of you"....and "I hope your proud of me"...I can not see that coming to view for Casey.....JMOO

[Neffy]

It was so creepy I was floored and instantly knew he was talking to his little "sister" not Caylee Marie Anothony. Talk about reducing someone to an abbreviation....it was horrible.

CMA, I will never forget that. He is off tilt.

Kat

Lee should have man'd up not this juvenile cryptic nonsense. It speaks volumes for his character.

[Heyes]

I just had a wild thought.......Maybe Lee is angry because they believe Casey is about to roll over on her family and this was the only venue for the family to tell her that they aren't rolling on her and she should not roll on them....That very well could have been the type of promise a family member would make....

Interesting.. and I think you may be right! That makes sense. Especially after hearing biaz.

[crimeq]

I agree that Lee seemed to be angry. There was no asdness.

Do you suppose at least some of that anger could have been aimed at Casey? My thoughts are that "You (Casey) let this happen. I helped you out and things didn't happen the way you said they would." that is the simplified form.

He never as casey, acknowledged Caylee, almost as if he also thinks of her as a mistake.

Very complicated and very tragic.

I didn't get the feeling that he had anger aimed at Casey--but at Caylee? Wow, sure hope not.

HOWEVER -- Lee was basically "not there" at Caylee's memorial, IMO. He sat angry in the pew, he had his arms crossed around him while he was on the podium, he never mentioned Caylee's name, not once--nor gave an indication that he was talking about Caylee. It seemed clear to me that all he was doing was communicating a message to CASEY -- and also, that he was attending that service against his will or the service was against his belief (makes more sense, and would be aligned with Casey not wanting the public service).

WTH is the bond between Casey and Lee? This is the kind of bond that may be seen in twins, but in plain old regular sibs? There is something radically wrong here.

I do believe we will find out that Lee has some complicity; we will learn that as more information comes out.

Perhaps that's what his passion is all about. Maybe he recognizes he's going to have to bite the bullet soon, but he's communicating to Casey that even so, and he's angry about it, he's still loyal to her and wouldn't change his complicity. This is all my speculation only ....

[newsjunkie]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?



I only know that Casey was into shamrocks and lee had on a shamrock, no Caylee button!

[Auburngirl]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

It was posted on the 1st thread today that KC loved shamrocks.

BTW, Eight Belles touched my heart so much. I think of her every time I see you post.

[SavannahStar]

The big part that threw it off as being directed to Casey...was the part where he said "I'm so proud of you"....and "I hope your proud of me"...I can not see that coming to view for Casey.....JMOO

Agree. I also keep remembering the big CMA on her wall. I think this was for Caylee. But.....he can be a real jerk. As someone posted earlier, this was his own way of showing his anger...and knowing it would get the public angry, and talking about it.

[need2no]

I can't see it clearly enough to make an outright bold statement that yup definitely Lee is wearing a cremain bracelet with caylees ashes.

It MIGHT be... or maybe its just a chain and leather bracelet.

I dont see any picture with George wearing a locket with ashes (maybe i just havent found the right picture of George.


The poster who says its DEFINITELY cremain lockets on all 3 of them should post the pictures because i can't find any pics that are clear enough to make a statement like that and i'd like to see what the poster is basing it on.


Nor can I, but I think the A's wanted to play a little game today....let the public wonder whether we have, or haven't cremated Caylee.

Sick, just plain sick....

[daHawg]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

Casey was born 2 days before St Patricks day. Birthday March 19.

[sachae]

Nancy lies again. 2000 people at this memorial. her producer said 1200.

On T.V. here in Ontario it reported that more than 1/2 of the people were media etc..... that went,
also I watched it on N.G. this morning, and as soon as Lee used the C.M.A. I did feel he was sending a coded message to his sister, just confirming to her whatever he knows he is going to never disclose that information, he is going to protect her now and forever, there is a lot more to come out of this case, I think we only know a tip of the entire situation, and I believe that is really what caused George to have the breakdown, I believe that since they have lost the little one, they are going to protect Casey, I truly believe that it has to do with the little one's true father, we shall see down the road. In other words I think they are protecting Casey, so that we the public never find out the true "Father" I use to believe that it was because Casey did not know, but not so much now. I believe that she killed her, no question about that!

[gaelicpeas]

I think you are correct.


http://www.evrmemories.com/narrow-titanium-urn-keepsake-bracelet-p/evr509tn.htm
I agree. And from that same website, IMO this one looks like Cindy's:

http://www.evrmemories.com/Everlasting-Silver-Infinity-p/evr193ss.htm

(sorry if someone has already posted this, but I am a little behind)

[8BellesFan]

I only know that Casey was into shamrocks and lee had on a shamrock, no Caylee button!


just found it...March 19th

so the shamrocks are for Casey, IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I can't see it clearly enough to make an outright bold statement that yup definitely Lee is wearing a cremain bracelet with caylees ashes.

It MIGHT be... or maybe its just a chain and leather bracelet.

I dont see any picture with George wearing a locket with ashes (maybe i just havent found the right picture of George.


The poster who says its DEFINITELY cremain lockets on all 3 of them should post the pictures because i can't find any pics that are clear enough to make a statement like that and i'd like to see what the poster is basing it on.


Thank you for checking on that Joan. I just can't see lee anthony kissing just any old bracelet. IMO, that is a bracelet urn. Been wrong before to, I guess time will tell.

[8BellesFan]

March 19th, to be exact.

And the shamrock theme shows up in a lot of pictures. Some of Caylee, but mostly Casey.


dayum....just dayum

[bhardy1956]

I thought some of you were being pretty hateful toward the anthonys' for the memorial service before it evan started.
It was beautiful until they spoke GA was doing good until he said write her evan if it is just to say hi,!
Listen again to what they say, they spoke one thing of the baby and the rest was about Casey.
What do they want for eveyone to totally forgive eveything and let her go home? Yeah CA would be so loving then.
Of course this is all my own opinion.

What really baffles me is that GA and CA got a standing ovation!!!! What the he77 was that about!!! For freaking sake, it was suppose to be a memorial for a little girl that was murdered! :cursing:

[Unperson1984]

Thank you!
I guess I heard it from one of the news shows?

I'm inclined to believe the body was cremated.

[WillowInFlight]

He looked bizarre, hostile and full of contempt IMO

I thought he looked angry too, but I guess it's to be expected, none of them should have had to have a memorial for Caylee. That child should be alive.

[8BellesFan]

It was posted on the 1st thread today that KC loved shamrocks.

BTW, Eight Belles touched my heart so much. I think of her every time I see you post.


unlike Casey, Belles had heart, so much heart and an enduring spirit

[Postergeist]

ITA with you postergeist

we DON'T know that caylee was cremated (the reports conflict, some say yes others say no)

Lee was NOT asked to go get jewelry, George was

I looked at the jewelry that was visible on each of them (i enlarged the pics) and the bracelet lee has on doesnt look to me like it has any locket on it... it looks like leather and chain

I did not see a locket that looked like it would hold ashes on george

I dont know why some people are jumping to the conclusion that it's creamation jewelry and they were all wearing it.

Please whoever says they can SEE that it's cremation jewelry with lockets for ashes please post the pictures that make that so clear to you because I'd like to see them and I can't find any such pics after looking at a ton of pics.

The links that several have posted for "funeral jewelry" sure seem to have a hefty price tag, imo. Something that Casey sure would've have never been able to afford without having sticky fingers to possess one.

It did look like Mallory and Cindy were wearing similar white bracelets, but since both their arms held several bracelets (sorta a gypsy bangle vibe) I couldn't tell what was what.

Suffice it to say, both ladies like wearing jewelry.

imo

Postie

[Januarybaby]

Originally Posted by Daisy'sMom
I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO

Copied and pasted.........

No, they dont have to stop loving their daughter, no parent should or would but they do not have to cover up, lie about, or condone that she murdered their grand daughter.

[desmom]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

March 19, 1986

[Barbara fl.]

Agree. I also keep remembering the big CMA on her wall. I think this was for Caylee. But.....he can be a real jerk. As someone posted earlier, this was his own way of showing his anger...and knowing it would get the public angry, and talking about it.


Now, that suggestion I will go along with....it makes more sense...then for him trying to get a message to Casey.....he can actually get as many message to her as he wants...the family has not had a hard time getting messages to Casey since her arrest...Baez brings them back and forth all the time....they can also write these "so called coded messages".....I just can not see using Caylee's memorial for such a thing......jmoo

[SavannahStar]

Thank you for checking on that Joan. I just can't see lee anthony kissing just any old bracelet. IMO, that is a bracelet urn. Been wrong before to, I guess time will tell.

Good point.....I can't see him kissing just any old bracelet either!

[WillowInFlight]

Casey was born 2 days before St Patricks day. Birthday March 19.

Did you mean after? Isn't St Patrick's day the 17th?

[Rick777]

All I know for SURE is this is one of the most messed up families I have ever witnessed.

[PROPROS]

I only know that Casey was into shamrocks and lee had on a shamrock, no Caylee button!The shamrocks are Casey all the way...The girl even has a Shamrock tattoo...IMO, this is going to be the new support Casey Logo. Didn't CA point to the Shamrock and say Casey and then above that the ribbon for missing children.mo

[court~critic1®]

Casey was born 2 days before St Patricks day. Birthday March 19.


Do you not mean 2 days after. St Pats day is the 17th. My DH birthday. He always kids that everyone celebrates his birthday. LOL

[need2no]

The big part that threw it off as being directed to Casey...was the part where he said "I'm so proud of you"....and "I hope your proud of me"...I can not see that coming to view for Casey.....JMOO

Exactly!

Why would Lee be proud of his 2 year old niece? Love her, remember her fondly, compliment her, miss her... but proud of her? And what did Lee do that Caylee could be proud of?

[Regina.Lampert]

I agree. And from that same website, IMO this one looks like Cindy's:

http://www.evrmemories.com/Everlasting-Silver-Infinity-p/evr193ss.htm

(sorry if someone has already posted this, but I am a little behind)

Thanks Gael, can you post the pic of cynthia wearing hers for Joanie and me?

[grammaw]

I really hope we don't have to continue to hear about all the other "wackos" either, that were supposed to show up today. Or the protesters. All the scary, dangerous people who were going to take pictures with their cell phones, carry weapons and put Cindy in harm's way. Please. That was just a bunch of sensationalism started by Conway, propagated by the media, and lapped up right here on this board.

ITA,and absolutely all Make UP

[crimeq]

Whatever they say it always comes back to what they want, need, don't have, how they feel, what we should do to help them feel how they want. Their health, their habits, their highs and lows. I shouldn't know more about them than my own grandmother. lol

Re: George's mentions of his command center; this is really bothering me now; previously I mentioned that I thought it may have made him feel powerful or in control, for the first (or one of the first) time in his life. I'm feeling something more sinister nagging at the edges of my mind. I do believe that George knew form the first, has always known, that darling Caylee was dead and gone forever. So why did the command center make George feel important? He was perpetuating a lie on the public and at times it seemed to be working; I can't get my mind around what this means about his personality, but it shrieks "denial" and a re-working of reality, and he got off on it.

Whatever it was, he remembers the "command center" as his glory days, and that's spelling something sick to me, not about Caylee about his perceived power.

Just speculating here but that focus on command center was just weird, very strange.

[cassidy]

He looked bizarre, hostile and full of contempt IMO

I can't quite figure out exctly why Lee is angry and hostile. But I agree that he is. His speech was bizarre to me. And I'd like to know what promise he made and to whom. Casey or Caylee?

JMO

[Barbara fl.]

Exactly!

Why would Lee be proud of his 2 year old niece? Love her, remember her fondly, compliment her, miss her... but proud of her? And what did Lee do that Caylee could be proud of?



Well, what did Casey do to be proud of? murder her daughter? I am always telling my grandchildren that I am proud of them....down to the little one....


Maybe that's just me.......

[Ladyhawk]

The behavior of all the A's is so completely inappropriate, imo. It's like watching 4 aliens from some alternate universe, who are wearing Human Being suits and trying to mimic the way real human beings speak and act.

It freaks me out a little. :unsure:

I have often thought of the family as Coneheads minus the levity. I have also thought what are the odds that all four of them have personality disorders that are similar yet different but keep them feeding off each other for their own psychological existence.

[8BellesFan]

oh my...Cindy starts out with herself....

[bhardy1956]

Did you watch the same service I watched? Lee had his arm draped around his mother's back for a good part of the service

Well, he sure stood apart "on stage"! Not singing, not reaching, not nothing!!

[Auburngirl]

Re: George's mentions of his command center; this is really bothering me now; previously I mentioned that I thought it may have made him feel powerful or in control, for the first (or one of the first) time in his life. I'm feeling something more sinister nagging at the edges of my mind. I do believe that George knew form the first, has always known, that darling Caylee was dead and gone forever. So why did the command center make George feel important? He was perpetuating a lie on the public and at times it seemed to be working; I can't get my mind around what this means about his personality, but it shrieks "denial" and a re-working of reality, and he got off on it.

Whatever it was, he remembers the "command center" as his glory days, and that's spelling something sick to me, not about Caylee about his perceived power.

Just speculating here but that focus on command center was just weird, very strange.


Excellent post. From the outside looking in it would appear that the only place GA had any sense of control was while working with the command center. Heck, even his inlaws thought he was worthless.

Does anyone recall GA saying something today about living in a house with three determined women? If so, what's your take on that? What three women?

[comemonday]

just found it...March 19th

so the shamrocks are for Casey, IMO

So much for it being for Caylee, huh? I'm certain that Casey will have seen this memorial. JMO... Shamrocks... for Casey.... figures.....

[need2no]

The shamrocks are Casey all the way...The girl even has a Shamrock tattoo...IMO, this is going to be the new support Casey Logo. Didn't CA point to the Shamrock and say Casey and then above that the ribbon for missing children.mo

She also had a shamrock on the back windshield of her car.

Was Annie there today...I keep picturing her wearing the shamrock cap.

[happy2bme]

he sounded like my daughter when she was 10, on the phone with her best friend and goofing around calling each other by their nicknames and discussing boys or something

it DID NOT sound appropriate for the 30ish UNCLE of a murdered toddler. (or however old he is)

and what would he have to be proud of caylee for and her in turn being proud of him... and how did caylee teach him to live his life and teach him patience blah blah and what promise did he make caylee?

the whole thing sounded STUPID, JUVENILE and like something Lee and casey would do (look at how they were high 5'ing each other and giggling like a couple idiots when Caylee was supposedly *missing*)

Both of them are very childish and petty for their age

If he was talking to Caylee then be respectful and say her name.... why say CMA,,,CMA...CMA I MISS YOU... CMA I LOVE YOU?... good grief grow up already! you're a man not a 12 yr old girl discussing the last episode of Hanna Montana


IIRC when this story first broke, it was said that Lee hadn't seen Casey in awhile. So if this were true then he wouldn't have been around Caylee either. Then we find out he lives a couple of streets over. I AM CONFUSED BY THE WHOLE DARN THING.

[cathiesblogs]

I just don't understand why Lee had to do the initials...that was really too too weird !!!...If I was his girlfriend...I would head for the hills !!!..or..Why Cindy had to say to Casey "I just want to wipe away your tears" comfort you...Please..all I have seen from Casey is ..My heart went out to George...inside..he knows all is wrong with this..he just don't know what he would do without Cindy !!..laughing !!!..there was some sweet things said..most of it was weird when the anthony's spoke.

[8BellesFan]

just caught this...forgive me but I am just getting up and going for the day and watching the service.

Cindy apparently had picked up the baby from the sitter before. She speaks of picking her up from Holly's. But in a year and a half she was never even privvy to ZFG's phone number??????? IMO, Cindy perpetuated a lie and she knows it.

[gaelicpeas]

Thanks Gael, can you post the pic of cynthia wearing hers for Joanie and me?Let me go look for it... I think it was Steff that posted 3 good shots earlier... brb

[happy2bme]

I can't quite figure out exctly why Lee is angry and hostile. But I agree that he is. His speech was bizarre to me. And I'd like to know what promise he made and to whom. Casey or Caylee?

JMO


I would say he has been reading the docs and newslinks.

[Unperson1984]

Did you mean after? Isn't St Patrick's day the 17th?

I think so, I know I always have a hangover on the 18th.

:wink:

[TisMeAgain]

Lee should have man'd up not this juvenile cryptic nonsense. It speaks volumes for his character.

Look who raised him...

[crimeq]

I will never understand how Caylee's demise has been funneled into a kidnapped missing child plea for others.

Not one single or shred of evidence says this is the case. A verbal story given by Casey. No more no less.


Neffy, I agree completely and I hope there are segments of the media that keep this in mind so the public is not deceived. Caylee was never a missing child. Caylee was an innocent child murdered by her own mother, who ALWAYS knew where she had put the body of her dead child. Caylee was never missing, only a body the murderess hoped would never be found, as any good murderer :-( would desire.

I certainly hope media keeps items in the news about NON-Kid-Finders and squelches any possiblity of Cindy trying to raise herself to be a representative for missing children.

[court~critic1®]

Well, what did Casey do to be proud of? murder her daughter? I am always telling my grandchildren that I am proud of them....down to the little one....


Maybe that's just me.......



What did Casey do for the male sib to high five her???


I also tell my little ones and even the older ones (grand and great grandchildren ) that I am proud of them, but it is for something they did. Not because they murdered by their own mother.

[Postergeist]

Here is the police incident report regard George's suicide attempt.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3737535/george-anthony-incident-report-SUICIDE-attempt

It mentions funeral jewelry.

Yes, thanks- but I guess that is up for interpretation too-

"She (Cynthia) stated she asked George yesterday to pick out some jewelry for Caylee for her funeral."

(from page 1 of the Incident Report)

So some could take it as some jewelry was FOR Caylee- to be placed with Caylee's remains- whenever the "funeral" takes place.

However, BarbaraFL has posted several times that funeral jewelry was purchased for all the Anthony family, (apparently including Mallory) and all were wearing them today at the memorial service and they were all touching and rubbing the jewelry. However, she didn't say if any jewelry was placed with Caylee.

imo

[Stella]

anymore disrespectful than a preacher crying out to Cindy, "sing it, girl!"

Cindy's big debut. :smile:

[crimeq]

Well, he is the middle finger...he played his part well.

Yep -- but why did he decide to stick it out, stick it up, at the memorial for his niece? Lee had an agenda all his own at the circus and he played it the way he planned, but I wish I had a code-book so I'd understand :-(

[SavannahStar]

I just don't understand why Lee had to do the initials...that was really too too weird !!!...If I was his girlfriend...I would head for the hills !!!..or..Why Cindy had to say to Casey "I just want to wipe away your tears" comfort you...Please..all I have seen from Casey is ..My heart went out to George...inside..he knows all is wrong with this..he just don't know what he would do without Cindy !!..laughing !!!..there was some sweet things said..most of it was weird when the anthony's spoke.


Re his girlfriend....she seems to have really stuck with him, through thick and thin. Hasn't headed for the hills yet.

Personally, I find him a bit offensive. He's a very strange guy. Prior to today, I didn't think that quite so much. Maybe Mallory understands him and loves him.

I don't really totally "get" his speaking today....but I understand that is his personal need to vent his anger. That's the only way I can think of it.

He did appear to be in tears at times. Sometimes men show their sadness with anger.....I think that may be a little of it also.

[kelloggirl]

CMA may be a nickname his nickname for Caylee. You can watch Lee at http://www.wftv.com/video/18682272/index.html

Lee said, "CMA each day you continue to teach me about life and about the way it should be lived. Each day you give me the ability to be strong or to be weak. It has been so long since I have been able to see you or to hug you or how to tell you how much you mean me. CMA I miss you. I love you. CMA I am so proud of you. I hope you are proud of me too. I need you to know that I will never forget the promise that I made to you. I will never forget."

jmo

His whole speech was in the present tense - IMO, said to someone who is alive, not deceased. CMA - Casey Marie Anthony.

All of Lee's actions seem to be nothing but defiance. I'm almost starting to believe that all the bizarre statements by his attorney that Lee was about to be charged were Lee's idea to yet again, give Casey a message that he has been working on her behalf, even to the point of getting criminally charged. SO bizarre.

[ishkabibble]

I think that Jose has been blocking his client from that family for a long time. And another thing, I am starting to sense that Casey is wanting to be found guilty. She makes no attempt, no effort to tell the public (a potential jury pool) that she loved her baby or that she is innocent and did not kill her baby. Jose Baez and his sidekick Linda K. Baden are the only ones so far coming out publically saying they "believe their client is innocent" Notice the wording. Not "our client is innocent" but "we believe our client is innocent" big difference. The Anthony's attorney came out the other day saying they don't know what they believe anymore. I think that he was speaking the truth and then something turned them around. I don't know if it is Cindy trying to put on a solid front or Baez reaming them that if they don't get on board they will lose their daugther forever, but something has turned this family from being on the verge of doubting the innocent of their daughter to using their granddaughter's memorial as a springboard to put on a case for Casey.

You may be right, she told Lee "maybe this should have been done a long time ago"

The wording of the statement Baez read from her was also very different from the way we have heard her speak on tapes. It seemed much more childlike, no big words, no attempt to sound "educated".
Hard to explain but it just was so very different.

[Remy]

They probably wish that they can "wish" it all away.....What I believe and feel is that George was asking us to forgive Casey.....which is something that the family will have to do....not the public....but I believe he took that moment after the sermon to try and put love in everyones hearts to forgive Casey....

They all know that Casey is the murderer.....I had more respect for Susan Smiths family when they asked the public to forgive their daughter because she had to be ill to have done something like that....at least they were not trying to erase what their daughter did.....JMOO

But, I wouldn't want to be in either of their shoes....and for that I will have compassion for all but Casey.....

I don't have to respect someone to have compassion for them.....JMOO

Now that is a post that encapsulates what I have been feeling/thinking :beer:

I can understand how they love and miss Casey and how many memories of the good times they spent with Caylee included Casey.

I didn't like the appeal to KidFinders, letter writing campaign to Casey, banning of people when speaking of forgiveness and all being God's children, everything that came of out of Lee's mouth and Cindy speaking about her health first.

However, I have compassion for the family and all the milestones that they will miss without Caylee and the grief and loss must be unbearable for them at times and I hope I never have to feel anything close to that. jmoho

[Cury-us Coyote]

I only know that Casey was into shamrocks and lee had on a shamrock, no Caylee button!

LA also did NOT wear a lavendar shirt like GA & BC.
jmo

[TisMeAgain]

After Lee's performance today, it's my opinion that 3 of the 4 have significant personality disorders that make them dangerous to be around, from an emotional/psychological perspective. (And as the disorder pertains to Casey, she was a physical danger to Caylee as well. Obviously.)

George just seems simple to me, but not especially disordered. Or if he is, it's a result of living with the other 3. I don't see him as the schemer others here do, but I could change my opinion based on what might be coming down the pike.

As for Cindy, Casey and Lee ... wow. I don't care how many belongings they own or how neat and tidy their house appears, there are some very serious psych issues there. imo

Great post! That is how I feel!

[WillowInFlight]

Good question... both Lee and Casey act very immature for their age.

I wouldn't know what to do if my 27yr old son acted like that at a BBQ in our backyard let alone at a serious memorial for a murdered child!!!

I would think he was off his rocker because he would never talk like that...

I think Lee comes across as a spoiled little brat.

[bhardy1956]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO


Do they keep lying about how Caylee went missing?

Caylee never went missing, she was killed by her own mother, it is very hard to sympathize with a family that continues to lie for casey, the murderer!

[crimeq]

I noticed that Cindy was rubbing his back, I thought she looked very supportive of him.

But that was her show of supporting Lee; Lee did seem very set off from Cindy and George. While he was speaking, if Cindy was rubbing his back, there wasn't much he could do about it. He may not have been pleased but -- whatchagonnado? when you're giving a speech in front of a large audience.

Cindy, OTOH--is rubbing his back for real support, or for show? She is quite the showperson, IMO. Rubbing his back could be her thinking "this is what I"m supposed to do to make it look real".

[PROPROS]

She also had a shamrock on the back windshield of her car.

Was Annie there today...I keep picturing her wearing the shamrock cap.I have only seen one picture of her so I wouldn't know...That and I am somewhat vision impaired so unless she was in front I wouldn't have seen her...Something tells me that not many (if any) of Casey's old gang would have been welcomed...but who knows...Maybe we'll get a rundown of the attendees later today.mo

[marshmallow]

I liked the service. I didn't like the mentioning of the murderer.

My husband refused to watch it and sent me an email telling me what he thinks of the entire Anthony family.

At one point he came into the room and heard George ask ppl to write Casey, and well he wants to know where to send her a letter.
Ya, ohoh.

Casey will get some hate mail from this, I don't know what George was thinking when he said we should be forgiving to Casey.

I WANT JUSTICE!




she'll never see it. Baez screens her mail, she only gets Casey-friendly mail...in other words, she gets very little mail.

[Remy]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO

I could if they weren't hindering the judicial system by doing the above. If anyone else had hurt Caylee do you think they would be asking for their forgiveness?

Everyone is always someones child. imo

[Regina.Lampert]

Let me go look for it... I think it was Steff that posted 3 good shots earlier... brb

Thanks Gael, I looked at the first video and I think you can catch a good look at it on there. I think you're right, it is the one you posted.

[8BellesFan]

Love ya, girlie :wub: ... but now tell is something we didn't know. lol


I'm always a step and a half behind....:wub:

I can't think of anything that the great brains on this board didn't already know at least 10 minutes before me. except maybe that I'm going to eat a ham sandwich now

[kOOkie1]

I can only say the "Service" itself, to me, was beautiful. I have issues with the first thing out of Cindy's mouth was about herself and to make it worse couldn't wait to mention Casey. I just think it would have been better coming from one of the Clergy, if they wanted Casey brought up at all during this Memorial. I will never understand Cindy..George either. The whole Lee thing is very very weird.. :sneaky:

[RiverWalk]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

That was a 4 leaf clover. A shamrock has 3 leaves.

[crimeq]

Someone speculated ealier that the remaining ashes are probably in the bear that was given to Cindy after the service. The one that was sitting in front.


It would be interesting to know if Cindy carried out that bear when the pastor arranged for the family to leave separately. If so, I'd think the bear could contain Caylee's ashes; if not, no, no way.

[gaelicpeas]

lol... well, Regina, I can't find where those shots were posted of Cindy, but here is the slideshow:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18681287/detail.html

Pic 12 seems to be the best.

[Kokopelli]

Cindy's big debut. :smile:
its' a good thing the Reverend didn't say "Shake dat Tang"...Sing it girl is a little more respectful at a solemn ceremony. :scared:

[funkyflower]

just found it...March 19th

so the shamrocks are for Casey, IMO

I don't know if it has any relevance but Saint Patrick is kind of like the Saint of the downtrodden and excluded, people who no one wants to have anything to do with. Apparently because he was inprisioned/enslaved for years and later brought Christianity to the Irish.

Shamrocks though, relating to this Saint, are kind of a myth. So as I said, could be relevant or could not.

[8BellesFan]

That was a 4 leaf clover. A shamrock has 3 leaves.

one leaf for each Anthony...not counting Caylee of course....imo

[Cury-us Coyote]

She also had a shamrock on the back windshield of her car.

Was Annie there today...I keep picturing her wearing the shamrock cap.

Did you spot Holly? IMO, CinA recalled a Holly story and looked toward a section of the audience.
jmo

[ishkabibble]

it appears that Cindy is wearing a mother and child pendant. I have seen them on the cremation jewelery websites and regular jewelery websites. It just seems strange that she picks that one, is it another example of the rivalry between her and Casey?

Her description of finding out she was to be a grandmother was so different than her brother has described it. I wonder whose version is closer to reality?

George did mention his mother in law and two brothers in law as well as his family so I guess the rift has healed at least for now.

[Stella]

its' a good thing the Reverend didn't say "Shake dat Tang"...Sing it girl is a little more respectful at a solemn ceremony. :scared:

That's true.

But "shake dat Tang' is appropriate at a pep rally... which is what the service became.

[crimeq]

asking for forgiveness and prayers for Casey and having photos of her on the alter was okayfine with the church but there was a list of unwelcomes for the church service who apparently are not forgiven or offered compassion......

and I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, I'll leave it at that too.

But noted. Big time.

[need2no]

I think Lee comes across as a spoiled little brat.

Agree, my way or the highway. Seems to run in the family.

[Nellie]

Good point.....I can't see him kissing just any old bracelet either!

He actually didn't kiss ANY bracelet! He kissed his wrist! Twice!

[need2no]

OMG you mean the Ants read here?????

They did NOT memorialize their precious grandaughter. They did however throw flowers their daughters way. The killer of their grandaughter.

I wonder what the final tally for this PRODUCTION cost the annoymous donors?

[marty]

I liked the service. I didn't like the mentioning of the murderer.

My husband refused to watch it and sent me an email telling me what he thinks of the entire Anthony family.

At one point he came into the room and heard George ask ppl to write Casey, and well he wants to know where to send her a letter.
Ya, ohoh.

Casey will get some hate mail from this, I don't know what George was thinking when he said we should be forgiving to Casey.

I WANT JUSTICE!


What I found odd is that not 1 time did they mention they want Justice for Caylee and the killer to be found, I would have thought if they thought there daughter was that innocent they would have at least mentioned Justice for Caylee.

[need2no]

He actually didn't kiss ANY bracelet! He kissed his wrist! Twice!

Perhaps this action is something only Lee and casey would understand. :scared:

[daHawg]

Did you mean after? Isn't St Patrick's day the 17th? Yeah I meant after.:blushing:

[Postergeist]

But she was correct. Some of us have been taught that Jesus does indeed love ALL his children, unconditionally, that would have to include Casey as well as ALL the IS posters, whether we think they are deserving or not.

yes- however, recall the two thiefs- one ridiculed Jesus and the other did not- one said "remember me", one was told he would be in Paradise.

So in this faith- there are conditions as far as who is received and who is not.

imo

[sachae]

CMA may be a nickname his nickname for Caylee. You can watch Lee at http://www.wftv.com/video/18682272/index.html

Lee said, "CMA each day you continue to teach me about life and about the way it should be lived. Each day you give me the ability to be strong or to be weak. It has been so long since I have been able to see you or to hug you or how to tell you how much you mean me. CMA I miss you. I love you. CMA I am so proud of you. I hope you are proud of me too. I need you to know that I will never forget the promise that I made to you. I will never forget."

jmo


Thsi is all code for his sister, when you read it, this was not for a 3 year old, it is for Casey!! As I said that family has secrets that they do not want out!!!

[SavannahStar]

LOL.....sorry it just reminds me of my girlfriend......most people don't get me, but she does.


:laugh: Awwwwwwww, well she's a lucky lady, Narc! :seeya:

[crimeq]

First words out of her mouth were that she had a cold...mo

Yes, and then about her jewelry -- that it "makes her feel better". All about Cindy.

I do have compassion that she lost her beloved granddaughter and that her daughter is a murderer, but I really don't care if Cindy has a cold, is losing weight, can't sleep, or that jewelry makes her feel better.

I care a lot about that darling little Caylee who is lost to this world forever, and who never got to live her full life.

[aubrey04]

anyone know why the big shamrock bear? was Casey born in March?

Yeah. March 19th, 1986..

[CANDYKISSES]

Yes, GA spoke of forgiveness...However, they could not forgive the people on the "banned" list ( for one day) and let by gones be by gones.I blame the church leaders for this. They should never have agreed IMO to that stipulation.mo

You better believe it PP. This should have been open to all hearts who longed to say good-bye to that beautiful child. Adults should have put their differences aside and the HOUSE OF GOD should have been open to all for worship and paying their respects to CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

I will hazard to guess that because of the DESIRES of the ANTHONY FAMILY to SHOW THEIR SOLIDARITY, they didn't want any participation that could be construed as SEEKING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE in that church.

Shame on the LEADERS of the CHURCH who allowed for such negativity when the service itself was beautiful. What were they thinking with the UNINVITED LIST? This kind of criticism could have been easily avoided by having a small gathering that was invitation only IMO. I've never seen a memorial or a church who allowed for an UNINVITED LIST. Then again, I've never known of a situation like this either where the disappearance of a child has destroyed reputations of strangers to the family, had nothing to do with her disappearance, and yet the entire tragedy started in the home with the child being found not far from the backyard. :sad:

Terribly sad IMO.

[need2no]

i think Cindy thought this was her chance to audition for AMERICAN IDOL :lol:

and her whole swaying back and forth in her seat, mouthing the words... geeeez... she looked like a teenager at a rock concert.. all she needed was a lighter to hold in the air.

:lol:

You're funny...

I'd like to see Simon critic Cindy's performance. YIKES!

[Auburngirl]

i think Cindy thought this was her chance to audition for AMERICAN IDOL :lol:

and her whole swaying back and forth in her seat, mouthing the words... geeeez... she looked like a teenager at a rock concert.. all she needed was a lighter to hold in the air.


Free Bird!!!!!!!

[taylor63]

Has anyone heard anything about the alternate memorial? I hope the Grunds are doing OK today, I feel so bad for them they were denied access to the memorial. It's very obvious that they loved that little girl so much. I also wonder if Cindy's brother was not allowed because he believes Casey is guilty, and the rest of her family, who from what I hear believe Casey is guilty as well. I sure didn't see many elderly looking people sitting in,or around George,Cindy,and Lee.

[marty]

Thsi is all code for his sister, when you read it, this was not for a 3 year old, it is for Casey!! As I said that family has secrets that they do not want out!!!



ummmmmmmmmm that promise could have been to Caylee as in I am your daddy and I will always protect you. I still think oh Lee is the dad. jmo by the way did he look fat today or has he always been that big? and whats with the bald head:ohmy:

[court~critic1®]

I wonder what the final tally for this PRODUCTION cost the annoymous donors?


I believe the Ants did not pay for one thing. So whatever it cost ,they didn't have to worry about paying for it.

[need2no]

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

We've witnessed the 'don't', we are still waiting for the 'do', which probably will never happen.

[Mimi428]

If he was talking to Caylee then be respectful and say her name.... why say CMA,,,CMA...CMA I MISS YOU... CMA I LOVE YOU?... good grief grow up already! you're a man not a 12 yr old girl discussing the last episode of Hanna Montana


<snipped>

Almost made you think he was going to say something along the lines of "CMA you'll be my BFF".

[Cury-us Coyote]

Has anyone heard anything about the alternate memorial? I hope the Grunds are doing OK today, I feel so bad for them they were denied access to the memorial. It's very obvious that they loved that little girl so much. I also wonder if Cindy's brother was not allowed because he believes Casey is guilty, and the rest of her family, who from what I hear believe Casey is guilty as well. I sure didn't see any elderly looking people sitting in,or around George,Cindy,and Lee.

Was Jessie actually at the discovery site memorial or just the senior Grund? TIA

[need2no]

I believe the Ants did not pay for one thing. So whatever it cost ,they didn't have to worry about paying for it.

Correct, it was stated annoymous donors were paying for EVERYTHING, and didn't want the A's to have to be concerned about any expenses.

[8BellesFan]

Nah, you're usually way out in front ... making me laugh. :laugh:

Enjoy your ham sandwich. Skip the pork rinds and the Ding Dongs, though. Casey's supply is running low.


I will forever be skipping the pork rinds and ding dongs as a tribute to Caylee who's killer loves them more than she loves her daughter. The commisary orders continue while no time is made to honor her small daughter who brought brightness to the lives of others. Caylee was a shooting star who raced across our skies always out of our grasp only to disappear too quickly, leaving only questions behind. Damn you CMA

[Nellie]

But that was her show of supporting Lee; Lee did seem very set off from Cindy and George. While he was speaking, if Cindy was rubbing his back, there wasn't much he could do about it. He may not have been pleased but -- whatchagonnado? when you're giving a speech in front of a large audience.

Cindy, OTOH--is rubbing his back for real support, or for show? She is quite the showperson, IMO. Rubbing his back could be her thinking "this is what I"m supposed to do to make it look real".

I was actually curious about Lee going first and the things he spoke of FOR THE FAMILY....such as, "we are united in solidarity"..."we are not complete"...."We are united". Sometimes his speech made me feel like he was the "family spokesperson" and the speech was written for him....with a bit of his own sprinkled in through it.

Even when he spoke of it being so long since he was able to talk to her or to hug her.....I felt like he was speaking to Casey, not Caylee.....because he didn't say it in a sense of "I will never get to talk to you again or hug you again"....he just spoke of it being "so long" like they will someday but it was so hard to wait.

[CANDYKISSES]

Thsi is all code for his sister, when you read it, this was not for a 3 year old, it is for Casey!! As I said that family has secrets that they do not want out!!!


While I am more inclined to believe or WANT TO BELIEVE that Lee is speaking about Caylee, I offer the following.

He could be having a bad time saying the words out loud that put her in a PAST TENSE. Sometimes it's really hard for some people.

Perhaps when he speaks about a promise, it's to see her all the way to JUSTICE here on earth.

*I too find myself thinking there was ALSO A MESSAGE to dear Casey in that he might have been letting her know that the family is united and standing behind her. After all, they have lost a child they can't get back, and it's not too late to try and keep Casey out of a LIFE SENTENCE IMO. Just thinking here. :sad:

:wub:ALWAYS SEEKING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FIRST and FOREMOST.

[RiverWalk]

Was Jessie actually at the discovery site memorial or just the senior Grund? TIA

I thought Jesse moved to Georgia?

[need2no]

Was Jessie actually at the discovery site memorial or just the senior Grund? TIA

I didn't see Jesse.

[ishkabibble]

and that wrist had a bracelet on it!

yes it did, perhaps it was one of those that have a picture under some sort of crystal. You used to be able to get little charms at the Sears Portrait Studio. My mom used to have them for her grandchildren, she updated it every year when the grand kids would have new photos taken.

Maybe Cindy, George and Lee all got different styles. It appears that Lee had sort of an ID type bracelet.

[kelloggirl]

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

If the Anthony's wanted to talk all day about Casey without criticism, they could've had a private funeral.

Also, if posters here want to post all day, let them, you don't have to read.

[Nellie]

and that wrist had a bracelet on it!

Yes....a bracelet, watch, or something....

[Cury-us Coyote]

Caylee Anthony's memorial service: What I saw
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-memorial-what-i-saw-021009,0,4702049.story

[CANDYKISSES]

ITA. I watched this memorial with tears and mixed emotions. I have always been in the camp of scepticisim re Cindy.

Today, I think she made a major mis-step in making comments which embraced Casey as a loving Mother.

I still can't get my mind around all this..............

Crying for Caylee................:crying::crying:

I cry for Caylee too Cala, but don't forget that Cindy herself told us when all was said and done CASEY WOULD BE SHOWN AS MOTHER OF THE YEAR, and her and CASEY both acknowledge THEY ARE JUST ALIKE.

Take from that what you will and know Caylee will live forever with the HOLY FATHER at PEACE IMO. :rose:

Gone too soon is an understatement period.

[funkyflower]

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are <bleeped> if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here. Oh, but you should believe it. Its happening and we'll continue to give our opinions in the form of comments. It is a forum.

They CHOSE to have a public memorial and tv cameras on top of that. I chose to listen and I choose to talk about it.

[PROPROS]

You better believe it PP. This should have been open to all hearts who longed to say good-bye to that beautiful child. Adults should have put their differences aside and the HOUSE OF GOD should have been open to all for worship and paying their respects to CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

I will hazard to guess that because of the DESIRES of the ANTHONY FAMILY to SHOW THEIR SOLIDARITY, they didn't want any participation that could be construed as SEEKING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE in that church.

Shame on the LEADERS of the CHURCH who allowed for such negativity when the service itself was beautiful. What were they thinking with the UNINVITED LIST? This kind of criticism could have been easily avoided by having a small gathering that was invitation only IMO. I've never seen a memorial or a church who allowed for an UNINVITED LIST. Then again, I've never known of a situation like this either where the disappearance of a child has destroyed reputations of strangers to the family, had nothing to do with her disappearance, and yet the entire tragedy started in the home with the child being found not far from the backyard. :sad:

Terribly sad IMO.Great Post CANDY and I'm not going to snip a word. ITA about the reputations being destroyed.... Like Tim Miller said...everyone involved in this case gets body slammed.mo

[AMS]

Here's the Kid Finders mobile board in front of the church today.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/funeral2.jpg

IMO.

[need2no]

Has anyone heard anything about the alternate memorial? I hope the Grunds are doing OK today, I feel so bad for them they were denied access to the memorial. It's very obvious that they loved that little girl so much. I also wonder if Cindy's brother was not allowed because he believes Casey is guilty, and the rest of her family, who from what I hear believe Casey is guilty as well. I sure didn't see many elderly looking people sitting in,or around George,Cindy,and Lee.

Shirley and her son (Cindy's brother), Dan sat directly behind Lee and Mallory. Actually I am just assuming that was Dan, but I know it was Shirley.

[Ladyhawk]

I find it sad that no matter what the Anthonys do, alot of people feel the need to tear them apart, to analyze their every movement and words. I can never begin to comprehend their pain. Not only do they have to deal with their grief, but they also have to come to terms with the reason for their grief.
Not one of us know how they feel, or what they are thinking. Perhaps they are trying to heal by forgiveness like all Christians are taught to do. They have unconditional love for their child. It must be unbearable for them to realize that this child has commited such a despicable act.
Do I believe that their daughter has commited this crime. Yes. Should they stop loving their child because of this? No.
They are grieving the loss of two loved ones. Can't we just leave it at that? JMO

Bolding to address...

That includes you...we don't know if they have unconditional love for anyone, including themselves. We don't know if it's unbearable for them or not because they don't appear to have come to any realization that their child committed a despicable act....the family is united behind the belief that Casey is innocent. moo

[crimeq]

ITA with you postergeist

we DON'T know that caylee was cremated (the reports conflict, some say yes others say no)

Lee was NOT asked to go get jewelry, George was

I looked at the jewelry that was visible on each of them (i enlarged the pics) and the bracelet lee has on doesnt look to me like it has any locket on it... it looks like leather and chain

I did not see a locket that looked like it would hold ashes on george

I dont know why some people are jumping to the conclusion that it's creamation jewelry and they were all wearing it.

Please whoever says they can SEE that it's cremation jewelry with lockets for ashes please post the pictures that make that so clear to you because I'd like to see them and I can't find any such pics after looking at a ton of pics.

George did say he was wearing a locket that had Caylee's name? or picture? on it, and that putting it on, made him feel better.

He was wearing it under his lavender shirt, that he wore because it was Caylee's favorite color. The locket would not be visible but George spoke of how meaningful it was for him to have it close to him.

[Mimi428]

she'll never see it. Baez screens her mail, she only gets Casey-friendly mail...in other words, she gets very little mail.

Unless Casey's mail is being sent to Baez's office, I don't know how he would even know what she receives in the mail, unless she chooses to tell him.

Anything sent to the jail is screened by jail personnel & then given to Casey - it wouldn't be forwarded to Baez first.

JMO

[Jpanda]

Hi everyone,

I watched the memorial this morning and just got around to posting. I realize my below opinion will not be a favored one, but after watching this memorial, I think I completely understand where the Anthonys are coming from.

I thought the memorial was absolutely beautiful and I think it was very healing for the Anthonys to be surrounded by supporters for once. I was skeptic at first about whether a public memorial was a good idea, but I think everyone in that church had a common goal today and that was to remember and hear about Caylee.

One thing that I truly got out of this memorial is the genuine realization that the Anthonys are not only dealing with the loss of their grandaughter, but also the fact that their daughter murdered her (which also could be by accident, in their minds). This whole experience I'm sure has changed each and every one of them and has challenged them in ways I'm sure they have never been challenged before.

I believe they are learning to accept that Caylee is deceased, and from what I can see, they are trying their hardest to forgive Casey. I can't condemn them for that. There are many victim's family members who somehow find the strength to forgive their loved one's murderers. It's hard for some people to fathom, including myself, but if I can understand that, then I can certainly understand their forgiveness for their 22 year old daughter. I'm sure it's hard, but someone once told me that the harder thing to do is usually the "right" thing, and in my opinion it would be a whole lot easier to just turn their backs on Casey.

I truly believe that they will attend court to show their support and forgiveness for Casey, but I also believe that they will ultimately accept her punishment when she receives it.

I have no doubt in my mind that if any of the Anthonys would have predicted that this would happen, they would have done a million things differently. But the bottom line, in my opinion, is that they never asked for any of this.

Anyway, just my two cents, and I respect all the alternative opinions out there as well.

JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

I thought Jesse moved to Georgia?

I recalling reading that Jessie planned to move. JG & RG have travelled the media circuit together and the Grund(s) were mentioned, just wondering?
jmo

[comemonday]

I don't consider myself a "hater" and I agree it WAS NOT a day for protesters..In my opinion their Grandaughter was entitled to a day without her Murderer being mentioned. I dont Hate the Family..I just don't understand them or agree with the way they have disgraced Caylee's memory for 7 months in front of the world to endure.



(jmo)

Well said. Today was to be a day of rememberance for CAYLEE.

[Postergeist]

I will forever be skipping the pork rinds and ding dongs as a tribute to Caylee who's killer loves them more than she loves her daughter. The commisary orders continue while no time is made to honor her small daughter who brought brightness to the lives of others. Caylee was a shooting star who raced across our skies always out of our grasp only to disappear too quickly, leaving only questions behind. Damn you CMA

Well 8Belles- maybe today Casey will order green beans in honor of her daughter's favorite food today- or purchase a Veggie Tale book with her monies.

Apparently George has been made aware that Casey is not receiving enough mail (she seems to be receiving plenty of monetary donations for her prison purchases) that she'll write her thank you's on lavender stationery.

(stickers may not be allowed tho, in jail- not sure)

Today the family got another chance to honor and praise their daughter, and finally today to memorialize their granddaughter- I don't think they will ever be able to disconnect one from another, and see Caylee as her own separate and unique entity- but always tied with Casey.

imo

[Cinsd]

I would have sworn cremated. But now with out a link...
anyone?

I thought the ashes were in the bear, by the way George touched it.

[VenusFlyTrap]

Hi everyone,

I watched the memorial this morning and just got around to posting. I realize my below opinion will not be a favored one, but after watching this memorial, I think I completely understand where the Anthonys are coming from.

I thought the memorial was absolutely beautiful and I think it was very healing for the Anthonys to be surrounded by supporters for once. I was skeptic at first about whether a public memorial was a good idea, but I think everyone in that church had a common goal today and that was to remember and hear about Caylee.

One thing that I truly got out of this memorial is the genuine realization that the Anthonys are not only dealing with the loss of their grandaughter, but also the fact that their daughter murdered her (which also could be by accident, in their minds). This whole experience I'm sure has changed each and every one of them and has challenged them in ways I'm sure they have never been challenged before.

I believe they are learning to accept that Caylee is deceased, and from what I can see, they are trying their hardest to forgive Casey. I can't condemn them for that. There are many victim's family members who somehow find the strength to forgive their loved one's murderers. It's hard for some people to fathom, including myself, but if I can understand that, then I can certainly understand their forgiveness for their 22 year old daughter. I'm sure it's hard, but someone once told me that the harder thing to do is usually the "right" thing, and in my opinion it would be a whole lot easier to just turn their backs on Casey.

I truly believe that they will attend court to show their support and forgiveness for Casey, but I also believe that they will ultimately accept her punishment when she receives it.

I have no doubt in my mind that if any of the Anthonys would have predicted that this would happen, they would have done a million things differently. But the bottom line, in my opinion, is that they never asked for any of this.

Anyway, just my two cents, and I respect all the alternative opinions out there as well.

JMO

Great Post!! It bears repeating...

[bhardy1956]

OMG you mean the Ants read here?????

They did NOT memorialize their precious grandaughter. They did however throw flowers their daughters way. The killer of their grandaughter.

I totally agree! The name Caylee was hardly spoken, it was mostly "the little girl", "my granddaughter", "CMA (WTH?), oh, and "casey" (I won't even capitialize her name), it's hard enough to type it!

[Pretty Leaf]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,6804558.story


"The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child"



Since we know that that Cindy wrote this it seems odd that she says "their beloved child" as opposed to our beloved grandaughter.
Maybe another swipe at Casey.

[SavannahStar]

OK, I watched part of it even though I said I wouldn't. I was curious. And now that I've had some time to think about it, here's my two cents: It wasn't a complete travesty.

I think the memorial (except for some of the stuff the Anthonys said) was fine. Caylee was only two, so there was a limit to what they could say about her talents, accomplishments and life goals. They said things that were appropriate: How much they miss her, she loved green beans, she liked her funny glasses and beads, she called George "Jo-Jo" and Cindy "CC," and all the things that made her their grandaughter. And those things were heartfelt--even when it was said that Caylee loved her mother.

But they also told us two things we may not have wanted to hear: First, they are a united family. They are supporting their sister and daughter. Second, they think it's time to focus on forgiveness. They don't know how repulsed and unforgiving people are by what their daughter did. They think it's time for us to move on; they don't understand that people need to see justice served in cases like this. Justice is the only thing that can give us a collective sense of hope.

Lee's speech was the most emotional. I think he used CMA instead of Caylee's name because his feelings of loss are for both Caylee Marie and Casey Marie. That's what I think it was--it wasn't a coded conspiracy. It was saying to the world--without saying it--that he still loves and misses his sister as well as his niece. There could be more he has to face.

Not as many people were there as I thought would be. And it wasn't a circus.

Nice post!

[aubrey04]

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

And similarly, if posters on here want to comment on the Anthony's and the memorial all day.. Let them. You don't have to read it.

It works both ways. :)

[crimeq]

I think that Jose has been blocking his client from that family for a long time. And another thing, I am starting to sense that Casey is wanting to be found guilty. She makes no attempt, no effort to tell the public (a potential jury pool) that she loved her baby or that she is innocent and did not kill her baby. Jose Baez and his sidekick Linda K. Baden are the only ones so far coming out publically saying they "believe their client is innocent" Notice the wording. Not "our client is innocent" but "we believe our client is innocent" big difference. The Anthony's attorney came out the other day saying they don't know what they believe anymore. I think that he was speaking the truth and then something turned them around. I don't know if it is Cindy trying to put on a solid front or Baez reaming them that if they don't get on board they will lose their daugther forever, but something has turned this family from being on the verge of doubting the innocent of their daughter to using their granddaughter's memorial as a springboard to put on a case for Casey.

If Casey wanted to be found guilty, all she'd have to do is confess. Could be that she "subconsciously" wants to be found guilty? Nope, I don't buy it, because she doesn't have a subconscious that works like normal people have. She's a sociopath. She believes she is going to get away with this.

She makes no attempt to tell the public she loves her daughter because she really doesn't know that's important. She hasn't learned to project that, from watching other people--and she doesn't have it in her, herself. We're watching a true sociopath while she's still young and hasn't yet mastered all the tricks of watching normal peoples' reactions, so she can duplicate them.

She doesn't know it's important to project an image of loving, missing, grieving, because she didn't have the time to model that from others before she killed Caylee.

We, as a world, are lucky that Casey stumbled over herself so quickly so others were not harmed by her, as they most certainly would have been, and that she is incarcerated for the rest of her life.

[8BellesFan]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,6804558.story


"The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child"



Since we know that that Cindy wrote this it seems odd that she says "their beloved child" as opposed to our beloved grandaughter.
Maybe another swipe at Casey.


well, she did say that she had three children....

[VenusFlyTrap]

I concur, as well as Fresca's post, also a Great Post.


I agree, both were great.

[bhardy1956]

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

You can only be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. casey hasn't asked for forgiveness. The A's have not asked for forgiveness for the lying and covering up, so unfortunately they cannot be forgiven.
I can pray for them to see the error of their ways, so they will ask for forgiveness, but in the meantime. Nope!

[Pat]

If you believe Lee was wearing a bracelet that contained Caylee's ashes, then wouldn't it be logical he was speaking about and to Caylee rather than Casey?

[happy2bme]

I am glad myself that the A's finally had the memorial...whether it had been private or public.

I am curious what happens with them from here on out.jmo

[crimeq]

CMA may be a nickname his nickname for Caylee. You can watch Lee at http://www.wftv.com/video/18682272/index.html

Lee said, "CMA each day you continue to teach me about life and about the way it should be lived. Each day you give me the ability to be strong or to be weak. It has been so long since I have been able to see you or to hug you or how to tell you how much you mean me. CMA I miss you. I love you. CMA I am so proud of you. I hope you are proud of me too. I need you to know that I will never forget the promise that I made to you. I will never forget."

jmo


I just don't see this as being about Caylee, but about a direct address to Casey. And I don't know what could engender that kind of passion between siblings. Lee is screaming his message to Casey, not Caylee. There is something very, very wrong here ....

[court~critic1®]

You can only be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. casey hasn't asked for forgiveness. The A's have not asked for forgiveness for the lying and covering up, so unfortunately they cannot be forgiven.
I can pray for them to see the error of their ways, so they will ask for forgiveness, but in the meantime. Nope!


Bravo! I concur.

I do not believe they ever will ask.

[8BellesFan]

I am glad myself that the A's finally had the memorial...whether it had been private or public.

I am curious what happens with them from here on out.jmo

the four D's
depositions
DNA
Deception
Denial

[taylor63]

You better believe it PP. This should have been open to all hearts who longed to say good-bye to that beautiful child. Adults should have put their differences aside and the HOUSE OF GOD should have been open to all for worship and paying their respects to CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

I will hazard to guess that because of the DESIRES of the ANTHONY FAMILY to SHOW THEIR SOLIDARITY, they didn't want any participation that could be construed as SEEKING JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE in that church.

Shame on the LEADERS of the CHURCH who allowed for such negativity when the service itself was beautiful. What were they thinking with the UNINVITED LIST? This kind of criticism could have been easily avoided by having a small gathering that was invitation only IMO. I've never seen a memorial or a church who allowed for an UNINVITED LIST. Then again, I've never known of a situation like this either where the disappearance of a child has destroyed reputations of strangers to the family, had nothing to do with her disappearance, and yet the entire tragedy started in the home with the child being found not far from the backyard. :sad:

Terribly sad IMO.

I believe this church will be criticized about this for a long time to come and rightly so. I agree with Mr.Grund, it's ashame the family could not have set aside their differences and personal grudges, so that he and his family, and others who also loved Caylee could have come and mourned her properly.

All that aside, I will say I do think it was a beautiful service apart from the unwanted list, and when Cindy said Caylee was so much like Casey. I had to turn the tv off when she said that it just upset me too much

[8BellesFan]

Do you know that they have not asked for forgiveness? Who have they not asked forgiveness? I mean do they have to ask for your forgiveness?

I mean if that is your belief, then that is fine. Just curious.

you cannot be forgiven for things you don't acknowledge

[~tj~]

When tomorrow starts without me, And I'm not there to see, If the sun should rise and find your eyes all filled with tears for me. I wish so much you wouldn't cry the way you did today, While thinking of the many things, We didn't get to say. I know how much you love me, As much as I love you, And each time that you think of me, I know you'll miss me too. But when tomorrow starts without me, Please try to understand, that an angel came and called my name, And took me by the hand. And said my place was ready, In heaven far above, And that I'd have to leave behind all those I dearly love. But as I turned to walk away, A tear fell from my eye, For all my life, I'd always thought, I didn't want to die. I had so much to live for, So much left yet to do, it seemed almost impossible, that I was leaving you. I thought of all the yesterdays, The good ones and the bad, I thought of all that we shared, And all the fun we had. If I could relive yesterday, Just even for a while, I'd say good-bye and kiss you and maybe see you smile. But then I fully realized, That this could never be, For emptiness and memories, would take the place of me. And when I thought of worldly things, I might miss some tomorrow, I thought of you, and when I did, My heart was filled with sorrow. But when I walked through heaven's gate, I felt so much at home. When God looked down and smiled at me, From His great golden throne, He said, 'This is eternity, And all I've promised you.' Today your life on earth is past, but here life starts anew. I promise no tomorrow, But today will always last, and since each day is the same way, There's no longing for the past. So when tomorrow starts without me, don't think we're far apart, For every time you think of me, I'm right here, in your heart :rose:

[comemonday]

Thank you for the receptive welcome. Time for me to go (leaving work)... Today I had a heavy heart, especially after watching the service. Many sad, sad feelings for this beautiful child and even some for George, Cindy and Lee. I continue to have mixed emotions with George, Cindy & Lee but I still see that they did lose a grandchild and a niece in a very tragic way. Being hopeful that the truth will come out, al beit in due time, I hope that Caylee gets the justice she so deserves as her little life was cut so very short. Prayers for Caylee, may she be at peace now.

[SavannahStar]

You can only be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. casey hasn't asked for forgiveness. The A's have not asked for forgiveness for the lying and covering up, so unfortunately they cannot be forgiven.
I can pray for them to see the error of their ways, so they will ask for forgiveness, but in the meantime. Nope!

We really don't know who has asked forgiveness or not. That is and should be private, not public. IMO.

[8BellesFan]

Oh yeah casey loved caylee so much she murdered her. :rolleyes:


I never said Casey loved her only that she deserved a mother's love...no need for rolly eyes:confused:

[happy2bme]

the four D's
depositions
DNA
Deception
Denial

I wonder if they are really gonna help with missing kids. They have one now near them that needs to be found.

[Regina.Lampert]

Hi everyone,

I watched the memorial this morning and just got around to posting. I realize my below opinion will not be a favored one, but after watching this memorial, I think I completely understand where the Anthonys are coming from.

I thought the memorial was absolutely beautiful and I think it was very healing for the Anthonys to be surrounded by supporters for once. I was skeptic at first about whether a public memorial was a good idea, but I think everyone in that church had a common goal today and that was to remember and hear about Caylee.

One thing that I truly got out of this memorial is the genuine realization that the Anthonys are not only dealing with the loss of their grandaughter, but also the fact that their daughter murdered her (which also could be by accident, in their minds). This whole experience I'm sure has changed each and every one of them and has challenged them in ways I'm sure they have never been challenged before.

I believe they are learning to accept that Caylee is deceased, and from what I can see, they are trying their hardest to forgive Casey. I can't condemn them for that. There are many victim's family members who somehow find the strength to forgive their loved one's murderers. It's hard for some people to fathom, including myself, but if I can understand that, then I can certainly understand their forgiveness for their 22 year old daughter. I'm sure it's hard, but someone once told me that the harder thing to do is usually the "right" thing, and in my opinion it would be a whole lot easier to just turn their backs on Casey.

I truly believe that they will attend court to show their support and forgiveness for Casey, but I also believe that they will ultimately accept her punishment when she receives it.

I have no doubt in my mind that if any of the Anthonys would have predicted that this would happen, they would have done a million things differently. But the bottom line, in my opinion, is that they never asked for any of this.

Anyway, just my two cents, and I respect all the alternative opinions out there as well.

JMO

Very nicely written J. I'm glad you posted.

[CANDYKISSES]

Great Post CANDY and I'm not going to snip a word. ITA about the reputations being destroyed.... Like Tim Miller said...everyone involved in this case gets body slammed.mo

You bet PP, and I find it really upsetting they thought nothing of taking all those people down, found GOD/HOPE/FAITH, declared their family solidarity in supporting CASEY, managed to put together a lovely church service with very UNGODLY stipulations in the name of memorializing sweet CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

JMO

:rose:Always seeking JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY :rose:

My heart goes out to THE GRUND FAMILY, JESSE, AMY, and TIM MILLER for what has been done to them all IMO.

[grammaw]

Hmmmmm.....could be said of many people that attack the A's that claim to be religious.

Not making a judgement, just making an observation. ;)

Now,all the peeps here that have heard about the fights between this family,stand up and be counted!And also when Cindy called Casey a physco to her friend Amy,wonder about all the GOOD TIMES memories?

[sickntired]

and that wrist had a bracelet on it!

I went back and looked at the service because I found it so odd. I wonder if he has a locket on his bracelet. Remember George saying he was given a locket a couple days ago that says You Are My Sunshine? And it looks as though Cindy had one around her neck. I also noticed Lee twiddling something on his wrist while his father spoke. Maybe it is a locket. Just guessing.

[crimeq]

March 19th, to be exact.

And the shamrock theme shows up in a lot of pictures. Some of Caylee, but mostly Casey.

Ummm hmmmm, lots of shamrocks, and lots of hearts.

Casey loves shamrocks and hearts.

ETA: Notice that while there were lots of shamrocks present at the service, there weren't any "hearts". Go figure.

[Jpanda]

I wonder if they are really gonna help with missing kids. They have one now near them that needs to be found.


Hi Happy! :wub:

I honestly think that they will, IMO. I think that is what will give them the strength to move on, especially George. As George put it in an interview to the media awhile back, they are now a part of this "club" that they never wanted to be part of.

jmo

[marshmallow]

Agree. I also keep remembering the big CMA on her wall. I think this was for Caylee. But.....he can be a real jerk. As someone posted earlier, this was his own way of showing his anger...and knowing it would get the public angry, and talking about it.

I disagree. He never once mentioned CAylee's name yet in his statements before this he never once referred to Caylee as CMA.

[lonetraveler]

CMA.. CMA...CMA










why couldn't he have said "Caylee" ...


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Because IMO, he wasn't talking to Caylee, he was talking to Casey. Maybe he was letting her know that he was going to keep his part of the promise. This proves to me and I now have no doubt that Lee knows everything about what happened to Caylee. He was letting Casey know how much he missed her and that he would keep his promise to her......for what I can only imagine but I have a very creative imagination.

[sachae]

I will forever be skipping the pork rinds and ding dongs as a tribute to Caylee who's killer loves them more than she loves her daughter. The commisary orders continue while no time is made to honor her small daughter who brought brightness to the lives of others. Caylee was a shooting star who raced across our skies always out of our grasp only to disappear too quickly, leaving only questions behind. Damn you CMA


Can soneone post a link where we may see what she orders every day, or is that not for the public.

[Loves2Read]

Bolding to address...

That includes you...we don't know if they have unconditional love for anyone, including themselves. We don't know if it's unbearable for them or not because they don't appear to have come to any realization that their child committed a despicable act....the family is united behind the belief that Casey is innocent. moo

ITA! We have no idea of what is going on in their heads.... All we have is their behavior and demeanor. IMO that is speaking volumes and very little of it feels genuine.

[need2no]

Ummm hmmmm, lots of shamrocks, and lots of hearts.

Casey loves shamrocks and hearts.

ETA: Notice that while there were lots of shamrocks present at the service, there weren't any "hearts". Go figure.

Right, and are we to believe just another coincidence....hardly.

[8BellesFan]

Can soneone post a link where we may see what she orders every day, or is that not for the public.

http://search.hp.my.aol.com/aol/search?fromPage=HPSidebar&query=casey+anthony+commisary

[WillowInFlight]

I went back and looked at the service because I found it so odd. I wonder if he has a locket on his bracelet. Remember George saying he was given a locket a couple days ago that says You Are My Sunshine? And it looks as though Cindy had one around her neck. I also noticed Lee twiddling something on his wrist while his father spoke. Maybe it is a locket. Just guessing.

I think HLN is going to replay the memorial this afternoon.

[8BellesFan]

Do they have to acknowledge that to Jesus or you? Or do you believe they have to do both? I don't want to turn this into a religious debate.....

just curious of your belief....if they have to make a public declaration.

I know some people are Catholic here......if you Confess to a Priest, and he tells you to do so many Hail Mary's......

I believe in atonement and righting your wrongs......but does that mean you have to make a public proclamation?


I believe it, but it's also a basic of psychology...that you cannot fix what you don't acknowledge. 12 step programs use it as well as religions. they don't need to ask anyone but their God, but when they keep doing the same wrong it would seem insincere

[happy2bme]

Hi Happy! :wub:

I honestly think that they will, IMO. I think that is what will give them the strength to move on, especially George. As George put it in an interview to the media awhile back, they are now a part of this "club" that they never wanted to be part of.

jmo


Hi Jpanda! Good to see you.

I hope your right. I do think George will be the most devoted one.

[OneUp]

you cannot be forgiven for things you don't acknowledgeI agree. I was raised believing that forgiveness will only come if you "own" your act, generally in public ( often with "testifying" to the church). Now, that doesn't mean everyone need go on CNN and broadcast their faulty behavior, but it would mean making amends, asking forgiveness from those you have hurt with your actions, and admitting at every turn that you did wrong (not making excuses and shifting blame).
I know of no apology to either the Grunds, Tim Miller, or local LE for the nasty things said about them and actions that created difficulty for them...therefore, I have to believe that the Anthony's aren't interested in/or believing that they need forgiveness for anything.
If they choose to go to God alone for forgiveness, then that's certainly their choice. I was not brought up to think that God allows us to achieve forgiveness while escaping the consequences. I'm sure there are MANY different POV's on forgiveness on this forum, so I by no means am trying to portray my own as "right" or best....they are just my views.
Ithink that to "get" forgiven, they would need to do everything in their power to "undo" their wrongs.
JMO.

[Unperson1984]

its' a good thing the Reverend didn't say "Shake dat Tang"...Sing it girl is a little more respectful at a solemn ceremony. :scared:

With all due respect, that sounds as though you are mocking the Reverend because he is black.

[WillowInFlight]

they aren't supposed to ask you for forgivness. They are supposed to ask god, and you would have no earthly way of knowing whether they have or not.

ita..............

[Cury-us Coyote]

ITA! We have no idea of what is going on in their heads.... All we have is their behavior and demeanor. IMO that is speaking volumes and very little of it feels genuine.

AFAIK, all three A's completed their speeches without profanity.
jmo

[Postergeist]

I disagree. He never once mentioned CAylee's name yet in his statements before this he never once referred to Caylee as CMA.

agree- I can't recall seeing "cma" in any of the doc dumps, the transcripts from texts, chats, emails, etc. that we've all seen links to and discussed for the past 7 months. Thankfully, at least no one referred to the toddler as a "snothead" today.

But if this was a common acronym for the littlest member of the family, I'm sure there will someone that can suss that out of all the info out there.

imo

[happy2bme]

With all due respect, that sounds as though you are mocking the Reverend because he is black.

Oh my, please lets don't go down that path.:sad:

[Loves2Read]

They aren't supposed to ask you for forgivness. They are supposed to ask God, and you would have no earthly way of knowing whether they have or not.

But after you have asked God for forgiveness you are to turn away from that evil and change what you are doing. You should be able to SEE some sort of change in attitude, actions, and so on.

IMO that would be the earthly way of knowing.

[crimeq]

I have often thought of the family as Coneheads minus the levity. I have also thought what are the odds that all four of them have personality disorders that are similar yet different but keep them feeding off each other for their own psychological existence.

One personality disorder can breed others in the surrounding close individuals, or at least some of the same characteristics. In borderline personality-speak, it's called "cooties".

[bhardy1956]

Do you know that they have not asked for forgiveness? Who have they not asked forgiveness? I mean do they have to ask for your forgiveness?

I mean if that is your belief, then that is fine. Just curious.

I'm saying how can you be forgivin if you have not asked for forgiveness? IMO, the A's have not asked for forgiveness by their actions, banning people from memorial for Caylee, calling people "maggots", pointing suspicion towards innocent people, telling the public to get off their azzes and search for Caylee, I could go on and on and on....
As far a casey, IMO, she has not asked for forgiveness, if she did she would have confessed.
So there ya have it, yes, my belief.

[CANDYKISSES]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,6804558.story


"The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child"



Since we know that that Cindy wrote this it seems odd that she says "their beloved child" as opposed to our beloved grandaughter.
Maybe another swipe at Casey.

Pretty Leaf, what seems odd to me is when Cindy is asking for pure hearts, it seems eerily similar to when she was making her cameo appearances :blushing: and telling the public to get off their buns and look for a live Caylee.

IOW, it seems she is still far too caught up in the double standards she's lived by and I can't understand UNINVITING GUESTS to a MEMORIAL for a CHILD and held in a CHURCH.....but that's just me. :crying:

[newsjunkie]

Do they have to acknowledge that to Jesus or you? Or do you believe they have to do both? I don't want to turn this into a religious debate.....

just curious of your belief....if they have to make a public declaration.

I know some people are Catholic here......if you Confess to a Priest, and he tells you to do so many Hail Mary's.....*adding* (is that correct?) *end of add*

I believe in atonement and righting your wrongs......but does that mean you have to make a public proclamation?


Just curious after reading a few of your posts........did you watch the memorial?

[desmom]

I disagree. He never once mentioned CAylee's name yet in his statements before this he never once referred to Caylee as CMA.

I agree Marshmallow. I went back and looked at the few videos of Lee speaking to the media. Today was the only time I heard him refer to Caylee as CMA. The use of CMA and talking in present tense makes me believe he was talking to his sister Casey. jmo

[sukapi]

<snipped>

Do a Google search on "bereavement jewelry" & you get about 24,000 hits - & a whole lot of the items are NOT the kind that can hold cremains. The crystal teardrop is very common, for example.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22bereavement+jewelry%22&btnG=Search

Here one version of the crystal teardop on a heart-shaped pendant.

http://www.collectiblestoday.com/ct/product/prdid-111543001.jsp


This info is in your very first link - capable of holding a small amount of cremains

Discount Ash Jewelry
Starting at $87.95
35 total products

[newsjunkie]

I agree. I went back and looked at the few videos of Lee speaking to the media. Today was the only time I heard him refer to Caylee as CMA. The use of CMA and talking in present tense makes me believe he was talking to his sister Casey. jmo


There is no doubt IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm saying how can you be forgivin if you have not asked for forgiveness? IMO, the A's have not asked for forgiveness by their actions, banning people from memorial for Caylee, calling people "maggots", pointing suspicion towards innocent people, telling the public to get off their azzes and search for Caylee, I could go on and on and on....
As far a casey, IMO, she has not asked for forgiveness, if she did she would have confessed.
So there ya have it, yes, my belief.

Are you in my head bhardy? :wink:

But on a serious note, IF I HARBOR anger, pain or grief over something another individual has done to me, I can choose to forgive them and they may never know or acknowledge it, but I will feel and be better for it. JMO tho and I respect that we all have different beliefs. :mellow:

[spageddy]

I've been thinking about this Memorial all day, and have a few thoughts/questions:

I couldn't help but notice Cindy saying she loved Caylee from the first moment she held her in her arms- a little dig perhaps-? Didn't she hold Caylee before Casey?

Didn't anyone know what Lee was gonna say before he said it? That was SO weird. It INVITEDcriticism and speculation. Can they just not do ANYTHING without controversy?

Is Mallory married to Lee? If not- she shoul getd far,far away from these folks. Even if she is...she should get away.
Has anyone ever heard an interview or statement by her?

Cindy looks way worse for the wear than George & Lee. JMO

That's it for me today. Enough ant antics for one day. See ya all in the AM

[court~critic1®]

Hi Happy! :wub:

I honestly think that they will, IMO. I think that is what will give them the strength to move on, especially George. As George put it in an interview to the media awhile back, they are now a part of this "club" that they never wanted to be part of.

jmo

You honestly think they will look for someone elses missing child when they NEVER looked for their own grandaughter???

Unbelievable.

:ohmy:

[scillak]

You bet PP, and I find it really upsetting they thought nothing of taking all those people down, found GOD/HOPE/FAITH, declared their family solidarity in supporting CASEY, managed to put together a lovely church service with very UNGODLY stipulations in the name of memorializing sweet CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY.

JMO

:rose:Always seeking JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY :rose:

My heart goes out to THE GRUND FAMILY, JESSE, AMY, and TIM MILLER for what has been done to them all IMO.

I wasn't watching this case as closely before Christmas as I have been since. So I don't know all that went on as far as the "black-listed" people. I was surprised that Amy was on there, though. She's the person who took Cindy to Casey on that fateful July 15th day.

[crimeq]

Excellent post. From the outside looking in it would appear that the only place GA had any sense of control was while working with the command center. Heck, even his inlaws thought he was worthless.

Does anyone recall GA saying something today about living in a house with three determined women? If so, what's your take on that? What three women?


Auburn, he was talking about these three females: Cindy, Casey, Caylee.

He was powerless against them--AND it could be because they emasculated him and made him feel powerless, or just that he is so inept that they correctly identified him as powerless.

However it happened, he's said it before (to the police) that he lived in an environment of powerful women and it wasn't easy.

Ergo: he, himself, was "powerless".

So the command center was his way of being important and in control. Sad to say, it was like his "treehouse", on a level with Caylee's backyard playhouse.

The command center epitomizes George's glory days of being powerful, perceived as being in control, being catered to as a "leader". First time ever for him, IMO.

I feel very sad for George. I think we may lose him.

[steffaroob4]

AFAIK, all three A's completed their speeches without profanity.
jmo

I found the use of stickers just bizarre.

I found it beyond strange they decided to show so much casey support at a public memorial, the risk factor alone was high for something to go wrong, why add more fuel to a fire?

I never liked the idea of this event and I sure didn't think today was about Caylee. Caylee is gone, she is not on this earth, it was her day, not casey's. I feel like we were used for something today, I am just not sure what.

[CelticDawn]

You can only be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. casey hasn't asked for forgiveness. The A's have not asked for forgiveness for the lying and covering up, so unfortunately they cannot be forgiven.
I can pray for them to see the error of their ways, so they will ask for forgiveness, but in the meantime. Nope!

we can not know if they asked for forgiveness .....They did not ask US for forgiveness....by us I mean the searchers...TES .....the general public....but forgiveness by God is another thing...

that being said....re the ants asking forgiveness...they have to FIRST have acknowledged their sins.

[Stella]

I think HLN is going to replay the memorial this afternoon.

The whole 2 hour show?

[newsjunkie]

Auburn, he was talking about these three females: Cindy, Casey, Caylee.

He was powerless against them--AND it could be because they emasculated him and made him feel powerless, or just that he is so inept that they correctly identified him as powerless.

However it happened, he's said it before (to the police) that he lived in an environment of powerful women and it wasn't easy.

Ergo: he, himself, was "powerless".

So the command center was his way of being important and in control. Sad to say, it was like his "treehouse", on a level with Caylee's backyard playhouse.

The command center epitomizes George's glory days of being powerful, perceived as being in control, being catered to as a "leader". First time ever for him, IMO.

I feel very sad for George. I think we may lose him.


I don't feel bad for George anymore.
I did until he had a chance to free himself of the pressure and chose not to.
He is where he is because he wants to be.

[Callie]

Hi all! I missed the services. I guess it was televised? Is there anyway of seeing it on the net?

[Daisy'sMom]

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Because IMO, he wasn't talking to Caylee, he was talking to Casey. Maybe he was letting her know that he was going to keep his part of the promise. This proves to me and I now have no doubt that Lee knows everything about what happened to Caylee. He was letting Casey know how much he missed her and that he would keep his promise to her......for what I can only imagine but I have a very creative imagination.

Why would he send a cryptic message to Casey who they say did not watch the service when he could just write her a letter, or go see her? Maybe everyone is reading way to much into this.

[newsjunkie]

I'm not speaking of Casey......but the A's.....and you still have no idea that they haven't asked for forgiveness from HIM......

The only thing recent you have mentioned was the Memorial.....and yes I'd have hoped they would have allowed everyone to come....if that is really true....and maybe one day they will look back and realize that it may have been the wrong choice to do so.....but they may look back and see that it was the best choice because it didn't turn into a circus with some of the characters that may have shown up.


The people they blacklisted would not have caused trouble. Throughout this mess they did all they could to find that child.
More than the family IMO

[bhardy1956]

They aren't supposed to ask you for forgivness. They are supposed to ask God, and you would have no earthly way of knowing whether they have or not.

I am not asking them to ask me for forgiveness.

I am responding to the post below:

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

God cannot forgive casey, if she has not asked for forgiveness. IMO, if she had asked GOD, she would have confessed to GOD and been forgivin. IMO, there is no sign that this has happened. IMO

Ok, I have stopped beating a dead horse...

[Dells]

What I found odd is that not 1 time did they mention they want Justice for Caylee and the killer to be found, I would have thought if they thought there daughter was that innocent they would have at least mentioned Justice for Caylee.

Now that you mention it, that is kinda odd.:unsure: Probably didn't mention it because they know in their hearts that Casey murdered Caylee and I don't think they even want to go there any longer.

[3Monkeys]

Kronk. Does anyone know if he was he at the service, or acknowledged?

[Daisy'sMom]

we can not know if they asked for forgiveness .....They did not ask US for forgiveness....by us I mean the searchers...TES .....the general public....but forgiveness by God is another thing...

that being said....re the ants asking forgiveness...they have to FIRST have acknowledged their sins.


But why ask forgiveness of the public, (other sinners) when it is only necessary to ask GOD's forgiveness?

[WillowInFlight]

The whole 2 hour show?

No at 4:30 they are going to have a replay of the NG show. Sorry.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I found the use of stickers just bizarre.

I found it beyond strange they decided to show so much casey support at a public memorial, the risk factor alone was high for something to go wrong, why add more fuel to a fire?

I never liked the idea of this event and I sure didn't think today was about Caylee. Caylee is gone, she is not on this earth, it was her day, not casey's. I feel like we were used for something today, I am just not sure what.

The curtain has dropped on the CinA show, bring on a next doc drop.

FWIW, in the CF13 video Josh Ducket was wearing a Helping Heroes ID pendant.

[desmom]

Hi all! I missed the services. I guess it was televised? Is there anyway of seeing it on the net?

Callie, several of the area media have the memorial on their websites. I posted the info in the links thread.

[Loves2Read]

So you think God won't forgive them unless they stop loving Casey? They didn't murder anyone. They are guilty of loving their daughter and grandaughter. period.

Please re-read my post. I didn't say a single word of what you just posted here.

You have no idea of what I am thinking.

If this post really is directed at me ....( I wonder because it is just so far off the mark)

Let me just say you got it WRONG.

[Xmygrits]

Ok y'all.. is anybody gonna write Casey a letter like George wants us to ??? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dear Casey,

Your father suggested that I should write to you. He wants everyone to let you know we are thinking of you.

Well, honestly, I don’t think much of you.

Karma’s comin sister.

Sincerely, and I mean sincerely,

Xmygrits

Here is how you can send Casey a letter:

http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/BUSINESS/jail/InmateMail.htm

[newsjunkie]

I am not asking them to ask me for forgiveness.

I am responding to the post below:

They are reminiscing about Caylee…let this family be.

And yes, God bless Casey and forgive her…she is sick.

If they want to talk all day, let them, you don’t have to listen.

These people are damned if they do and if they don’t.

Can’t believe the horrid comments on here.

God cannot forgive casey, if she has not asked for forgiveness. IMO, if she had asked GOD, she would have confessed to GOD and been forgivin. IMO, there is no sign that this has happened. IMO

Ok, I have stopped beating a dead horse...

They could have expressed that all at a private service to people who want to hear it.
This was public and I believe many took offense. JMO

[cassidy]

Why would he send a cryptic message to Casey who they say did not watch the service when he could just write her a letter, or go see her? Maybe everyone is reading way to much into this.

Casey did not request TV time to watch the memorial. which is not to say she didn't view the entire 2 hours on Jose's laptop. He was at the jail with it and with her in the attorney/client room. It is not against regulations for her to wathc it on Jose's laptop (according to a reporter on TV today. So she could have watched it and I'm betting she did.

But that just my opinion.

[Virgo]

When tomorrow starts without me, And I'm not there to see, If the sun should rise and find your eyes all filled with tears for me. I wish so much you wouldn't cry the way you did today, While thinking of the many things, We didn't get to say. I know how much you love me, As much as I love you, And each time that you think of me, I know you'll miss me too. But when tomorrow starts without me, Please try to understand, that an angel came and called my name, And took me by the hand. And said my place was ready, In heaven far above, And that I'd have to leave behind all those I dearly love. But as I turned to walk away, A tear fell from my eye, For all my life, I'd always thought, I didn't want to die. I had so much to live for, So much left yet to do, it seemed almost impossible, that I was leaving you. I thought of all the yesterdays, The good ones and the bad, I thought of all that we shared, And all the fun we had. If I could relive yesterday, Just even for a while, I'd say good-bye and kiss you and maybe see you smile. But then I fully realized, That this could never be, For emptiness and memories, would take the place of me. And when I thought of worldly things, I might miss some tomorrow, I thought of you, and when I did, My heart was filled with sorrow. But when I walked through heaven's gate, I felt so much at home. When God looked down and smiled at me, From His great golden throne, He said, 'This is eternity, And all I've promised you.' Today your life on earth is past, but here life starts anew. I promise no tomorrow, But today will always last, and since each day is the same way, There's no longing for the past. So when tomorrow starts without me, don't think we're far apart, For every time you think of me, I'm right here, in your heart :rose:

That was so beautiful....thank you. I have been watching all day the service for Caylee and crying my eyes out....I just lost my husband and all the memories came flooding back.
REST IN PEACE DEAR CAYLEE and may justice be served!!

[scillak]

Why would he send a cryptic message to Casey who they say did not watch the service when he could just write her a letter, or go see her? Maybe everyone is reading way to much into this.

When I first listened to Lee, I got a bit creeped out because I was wondering - why the CMA? When I listened a second time, though, it didn't get to me as much. I kind of think he was sending his message to both CMA's - saying he missed them both so much. I dunno. There was a sentence that sounded like he was asking Casey to spill the beans.

[Myka]

I went back and looked at the service because I found it so odd. I wonder if he has a locket on his bracelet. Remember George saying he was given a locket a couple days ago that says You Are My Sunshine? And it looks as though Cindy had one around her neck. I also noticed Lee twiddling something on his wrist while his father spoke. Maybe it is a locket. Just guessing.

and when Cindy spoke about Casey, Lee rocked back and forth, took his hands out of his pockets, his left hand tounched his right wrist, ( like to adjusting his watch) then he brought his hands together infront of himself

[newsjunkie]

Kronk. Does anyone know if he was he at the service, or acknowledged?

He should have been thanked as should have all the searchers but I suspect he was on THE list!

[crimeq]

You may be right, she told Lee "maybe this should have been done a long time ago"

The wording of the statement Baez read from her was also very different from the way we have heard her speak on tapes. It seemed much more childlike, no big words, no attempt to sound "educated".
Hard to explain but it just was so very different.

Casey's saying that has never left my mind. I do believe she's a sociopath and doesn't have real emotions, and hasn't learned enough by watching other people to get her through her travails right now.

But I wonder if at some level, when talking to Lee, she is acknowledging that she knows she's not normal, and it's just as well that it's being caught right now ....

Don't know. This is simply wondering and speculation on my part right now. It's a very confusing case with very confusing players.

[Callie]

Yep, there's a link on the thread here.....

Thanks! Can you tell me what page?

[KKKKKKatie]

Casey did not request TV time to watch the memorial. which is not to say she didn't view the entire 2 hours on Jose's laptop. He was at the jail with it and with her in the attorney/client room. It is not against regulations for her to wathc it on Jose's laptop (according to a reporter on TV today. So she could have watched it and I'm betting she did.

But that just my opinion.

I have never read before...is there wifi or Internet access at the jail?

[Xmygrits]

That was so beautiful....thank you. I have been watching all day the service for Caylee and crying my eyes out....I just lost my husband and all the memories came flooding back.
REST IN PEACE DEAR CAYLEE and may justice be served!!

I'm sorry Cloey. :rose:

[marshmallow]

But she was correct. Some of us have been taught that Jesus does indeed love ALL his children, unconditionally, that would have to include Casey as well as ALL the IS posters, whether we think they are deserving or not.



as usual, nice dig!

I think all of us were taught that Jesus loves ALL his children and I have no doubt that the unwelcomes who loved Caylee (the Grunds) are loved by Jesus as well, they're just not included in the Anthony's largess...

[Leelee68]

Maybe the bracelet that Lee kissed was a gift from Casey possibly from a past birthday or xmas.

[cassidy]

I have never read before...is there wifi or Internet access at the jail?

The report I saw (it was live or I'd give you a link) indicated that there is.

[WillowInFlight]

When I first listened to Lee, I got a bit creeped out because I was wondering - why the CMA? When I listened a second time, though, it didn't get to me as much. I kind of think he was sending his message to both CMA's - saying he missed them both so much. I dunno. There was a sentence that sounded like he was asking Casey to spill the beans.

George's speech got to me the most, Especially when he said he misses her kisses on the cheek. :crying:

[KKKKKKatie]

The report I saw (it was live or I'd give you a link) indicated that there is.


Thanks Cassidy....I was just curious

[crimeq]

I think Lee comes across as a spoiled little brat.

Good point. We can probably look at Lee, and also see how a Casey would appear, were she not embroiled in a murder of her own child scenario.

How you see Lee act now, is probably very similar to how you would see Casey act, without what's going on right now.

I would say these are not two Gold Medal Kids. JMO.

[bhardy1956]

I'm not speaking of Casey......but the A's.....and you still have no idea that they haven't asked for forgiveness from HIM......

The only thing recent you have mentioned was the Memorial.....and yes I'd have hoped they would have allowed everyone to come....if that is really true....and maybe one day they will look back and realize that it may have been the wrong choice to do so.....but they may look back and see that it was the best choice because it didn't turn into a circus with some of the characters that may have shown up.

My initial post was in response to someone saying "God bless casey and forgive her". I then continued with another about the A's, IMO, they have not changed their ways, lies, coverup, spins, ect...
So, no I don't believe they have asked. "You shall know them by their fruits"
This is my belief, it doesn't have to be yours, and I think we are done here.

[Myka]

Dear Casey,

Your father suggested that I should write to you. He wants everyone to let you know we are thinking of you.

Well, honestly, I don’t think much of you.

Karma’s comin sister.

Sincerely, and I mean sincerely,

Xmygrits

Here is how you can send Casey a letter:

http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/BUSINESS/jail/InmateMail.htm

if ppl write her, what are the chances she will write back?

Dear Jane Doe,
Got your letter, wow you killed your kid too but got off scott free? Wow, that gives me hope. Hey! lets be BBFs now huh?
See you on the outside
CMA

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[Mimi428]

This info is in your very first link - capable of holding a small amount of cremains

Discount Ash Jewelry
Starting at $87.95
35 total products

I'm aware of that. The point, the ONLY point, is that there is a whole lot of bereavement/memorial jewelry out there. NOT just the kind that holds cremains. If I hadn't spent two days last week looking for some, I'm not sure I would have had quite the appreciation for just how much IS out there.

Could be that any of the Anthonys were wearing bereavement jewelry of the sort that holds cremains. Could be that any of the Anthonys were wearing bereavement jewelry that does NOT hold cremains. I think most of us just wanted to know if there was verification for it, since it was posted at least twice that I recall, in a fashion indicating it WAS the cremains kind.

JMO

[CelticDawn]

But why ask forgiveness of the public, (other sinners) when it is only necessary to ask GOD's forgiveness?


I am not asking that...I am simply pointing out that we have no way of knowing whether they have asked the ONE that counts for forgiveness.